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Jeff
What is up on the chain family? Buckle up, because tonight we've got Ripple execs that are dropping analogies. Like, hit that. Hit like a freight train. I was to say. Like they hit like a freight train. Freaking. It's amazing. I'm just loving it's happening right now. Now there's a former Solana employee who's over at Ripple pulling back the curtain. A whole lot of people online that are connecting all sorts of dots and they probably shouldn't be connected. You know how that is, all those fanboys out there. But we're gonna break it all down. The real deal. Where is XRP heading? How is the industry shifting? And who's full of crap along the way? And you guys probably know who that is.
Chip
Lenny. Well, I'll just correct you a little bit. It was not a Solana employee, but some guy that ran pretty heavily in the Solana ecosystem. Not necessarily an employee, per se.
Jeff
Right.
Chip
When we take a look at geopolitics again, did everything. Does everything go off the rails? Every single possible day. I mean, everything you look at at D.C. is pretty much alive and well. I got the narrative managers taking another brutal loss and the timing of everything as well. Why don't we just dive head first into the shallow end for maximum impact and let's workshop it. Let's go. Let's go. Welcome to on the Ch. To on the Chain, Jeff. Welcome to on the Chain.
Jeff
On the chain.
Chip
On the chain. Badasses. That's what we're doing.
Jeff
People flooding in. People commentary all the way.
Chip
They're all coming in.
Jeff
Flash crash. Let's get into that.
Chip
Who looks at it? I don't even look at anything. Does anybody look? I don't look.
Jeff
Silver. Silver down.
Chip
Carl Carmichael's in here early. I don't know what to make of that, Jeff.
Jeff
I don't know.
Chip
Normally, it's always a little bit late. Maybe because we were a little bit early. I don't know. Maybe he popped by. Let's go. By the way, happy late Thanksgiving. Well, happy late Thanksgiving. I'm gonna be the first one to wish everybody an early Thanksgiving for 20, 26. What do you think about that? I'm first. Just like that, Chef.
Jeff
I like it.
Chip
Still over a record highs. Yeah. We got gold breaking. Was 4, 300 bucks.
Jeff
What is gold breaking? I don't even know what gold's at.
Chip
It's a 42 something. 4300. I don't know what it is, but it's something almost not late. No. No one's here. If you Guys pop in, you don't.
Jeff
Miss 4266, you don't miss the little.
Chip
Banter that happens in the very beginning of the show. But there's always a little bit of back and forth banter. But today we're going to jump right into it. Here we go. Reese Merrick now. Reese Merrick. It's funny, I start seeing him really making a lot more, I don't know, let's say like a lot more noise online. But he's everywhere. I seem to see this guy's everywhere now. He's a senior executive officer, officer, managing director of the Middle east and Africa, which they call me a bit. And that's for Ripple. All views are his own. So if he says something wrong, don't worry, they're just his views. But he kind of had this interesting analogy that I wanted to run by everybody and let's just see here, he said back in the 2000s, texting was a cash cow with carriers charging something like 10 to 20 cents per SMS sold in bundles of 500 tax for 10 to 20 bucks a month. You remember that, Jeff?
Jeff
I do.
Chip
Every time you said the tax that was 20 cents, that was 30 cents if you bought the bundle. Right.
Jeff
And, and even, even before packages, a voice, voice you get, you'd get X amount of voice per month. And then after that it was like 20 cents a minute or something.
Chip
And he had so many minutes before this unlimited thing, you know, the Internet was the same thing. It's like when you first got going, you know, I've been lucky. I've had broadband since 97 almost. People can't believe they're like this is 97. I didn't think it came out. And so I'm like, yeah, I've had broadband since 97. Some kind of broadnet band of some kind. So I always had like really good access.
Jeff
Earthlink.
Chip
Yeah. But if you look globally, SMS revenue peaked at over a hundred billion per year. That's right, text Messages. And then WhatsApp launched in 2009 as a cheap cross platform alternative that used your data plan instead of the SMS system. So by 2014 it had 5 million users. By 2018, over 1.5 billion users. Now in excess of 3 billion people use it on a monthly basis. None of them in the US by the way. Just I might be one of the sole.
Jeff
The two of us, that's it.
Chip
Because we talk to people overseas, but nobody has. Dude, if you ask anybody, ask any of your friends, people, colleagues, hey, do you guys have WhatsApp? No, WhatsApp went out as fast as it came in 2009 it came in, it was out of 201112 for whatever the next thing was.
Jeff
And it's greatest platform too because your images just everything you send is so fast, just like on signal too. Try to do it through SMS and there's always a lag delay trying to send an image, send it Through Signal or WhatsApp. It's like boom, send. There you go.
Chip
I prefer signal way more than I, I don't know what it is about that dopey interface. I just cannot take that dopey interface. It's horrible. It looks like 2008, it's not changed since 2008. So the point here is that people realize that they could send unlimited once they could send unlimited messages, photos, videos, voice notes for free or like just for the cost of whatever the data plan was was nominal, especially if you had WI FI access. It was like no big deal, which was falling fast. So crypto will do for payments what WhatsApp did for SMS and Ripple are ready for it. What do you think about that analogy?
Jeff
I think, I think it's a really good, you know, it's definitely a good analogy. But which payments are we talking about? Are we talking about, you know, is, is Ripple rousd? I get it. Xrp. I get it. But is Ripple ready for the payment switch over? You know, is Ripple going to be, be there for all payments? Are they going to be the WhatsApp of payments? Are they the WhatsApp institutional WhatsApp of payments? Like where, where are they falling? Are they retail or are they institution driven? And, and I, I, you know, up until this point Ripple's been institutional driven and that's their whole focus point. Are they going to pivot? Are they going to retail? You know, is RL USD their play specifically for the retail space? Because I do see that RO USD is going to be bigger, but is it retail? I, I just, I still don't see them being in the retail space.
Chip
But I think what he's getting to is the fact that, you know, for institutional it's still a lot cheaper. Like when you can move everything super fast, end to end, you know, low cost. This is what, you know, he's kind of making the analogy that what, what WhatsApp was to texting. Now you have like the, the cost of moving value money, crypto, whatever it may be. Stable coins, stable coins have sort of leveled everything up, you know, with Circle and a lot of other folks having their own sort of payment Rails for that. That's going to kind of take the bite out of it. But still, I don't really know what the settlement is on that. I don't know what somebody's going to charge to move stable coins. Right? Is it going to be free? I mean, is it going to be, I mean how, how are you going to monetize the institutions monetize this? So that remains to be seen. Like I don't know what that looks like from a back a background perspective.
Jeff
Well, if you, Yeah, I, I mean there's definitely a component to that, but if I'm sending money, I don't want to pay it necessarily a fee. I mean you think about Zell, right? Zell right now is free. If you do, you know, if you're moving money off of a platform, off of a coinbase or an uphold and you do it, you know, the slow way, it's no cost, it's a mat. It's when you do it at, at, you know, if you're gonna do it it, you know, instant, you can get instant movement. Those platforms are charging a fairly hefty dollar amount to do, to do instant.
Chip
Yeah.
Jeff
So can we, can we have a platform where, you know, we're in USD, not necessarily in RL USD where we can move that immediate or you know, are we just gonna say, hey, you know what, screw it, I'm just going to move it in rousd.
Chip
But I, but you're comparing retail though. Ripple is not necessarily focused on retail so. Well, that's why, that's why I don't think it really works there. I think like when it comes to, when you lose, you're moving a billion dollars, you're moving a hundred million dollars, you're using 10 or 20 million, you know, dollars at a time in value, whether it's a crypto stable coin. Yeah, what, what's, what are the, what is the software charge in the back end? I don't really know what that looks like, but think his analogy is on point. The fact is, once people realize, especially with Ripple being a one stop shop, you can do almost everything there. There's a lot, a lot of great things that can happen. This is funny because Noah says I use WhatsApp all the time. Great app to keep in contact with my overseas friends. Exactly. That's why you use it all the time. But you don't use it all the time because your friends in the US use it. Nobody does that. I'm aware of. Very rare, very rare with somebody. That's why when When I had met in person, Hugo, who's the, you know, the CEO over there at Flair. Hugo Filion. When he asked me, chip, you got WhatsApp? Yeah, I have WhatsApp. He goes, oh, that's unusual. Most Americans say no when I ask them, I'm like, that's because I have friends overseas and that's how I keep in touch with them. So it's like, that's what we use, WhatsApp. Now some have converted over to Signal.
Jeff
I'm seeing more. Yeah, I'm seeing more people, though, moving over to WhatsApp. Between WhatsApp and Signal, people are definitely making the migration at this point.
Chip
Yeah, I just thought. I mean, WhatsApp is. I don't trust it as much as I trust Signal. To be honest with you. I trust the founder of Signal a little bit more. I just think it's a better. A better one. Zell is only free if your bank's affiliated with Wells Fargo. Is that true? I don't know with that. I know my brother is like, I wanted to send my brother something. He's like, I don't have Zell. I'm like, dude, how do you. How do you not have Zell? Now, if you're with a smaller. Like some credit unions and stuff don't even have access to. But with your small regional bank, they don't necessarily offer Zelle. So I don't know what size bank you have to be, what the settlement looks like, because it doesn't settle on the spot. It's an iou. It's going to take two to three days to settle, but you know, it shows up because you're on this network and everybody's trusting each other. But you know that the settlement doesn't actually happen for a couple days. At some point, it might happen real time. We've got this risk, real time crypto task force, the US Government and the Federal Reserve and all this stuff, but it doesn't seem like anything. Still real time. So Telegram. Yeah, Telegram's weird for me, man. Telegram's. You want to talk about spam central? Put Telegram on your phone if you want. If you want to deal with more spammers than you've ever dealt with in any platform, any medium downloads Telegram, because that is your.
Jeff
Oh, that's the worst gateway.
Chip
It's garbage, man. That's the biggest. I can't crypto up. We got to get you on Signal, my man. Time to get off of that garbage. My God. Telegram is. I've tried a couple times. I'll Put it in there, and I'll just get spammed to spam. Spam, like, all right, delete. It's just a horrific. And. And the interface is debatable. Whether it's worse than WhatsApp, at least WhatsApp, I understand and know. I just. It's a bad. It's a bad platform, man. Of course. Imessage. Sure. You want to text on your iPhone. That makes sense. If this is true, as I use Zelli.
Jeff
It's not.
Chip
He used to call it Zelly, Zelly Zell, until my credit union stopped. Yeah, well, it's good. You know, like, a lot of times I'll use to pay, like, a vendor or some vendor comes to my house or something, or a construction or some kind of. I'm having something done in the house. I just go like, hey, would you sell? Yeah, got it. Yep, I got it. Done. Send me the invoice. Yeah, done. Super fast. Now, I was dealing with somebody, and they said, like, I don't know. Your business doesn't use. They'll know. Do you use. What was the other big one, right? The. The one that's owned by PayPal. What's that one called? You guys will get it. But I said, do you have that one? What is it called?
Jeff
PayPal.
Chip
No, it's the one owned by PayPal. It's, like, pretty big. My kids use it. My kids.
Jeff
I don't know. I don't know what all these.
Chip
I can't think of the name of it. Somebody will tell me in the chat. But anyway, that one, I'm like, do you have that? They're like, no. I'm like, are you in business? What are you doing? What the hell's wrong with you? I mean, you have to make it easy for people to pay you. That's like the first thing. And where you're sitting, you want to be able to see the transaction hit when you're talking to the person. You know, the old school was like, I'll write you a check, and you hope the check's good. Oh, there's a problem with the check. All the check didn't clear. It's end to end. Got it. Yep. I saw the transaction. Right. Venmo is what I was thinking about. Thank you, Cash Velocity. Couldn't think of it on the tip of my tongue. But Venmo is the same way. It's like, you send somebody a Venmo, they get it. It's like that, right? It's instant settlement and way better than PayPal. But some people even still, some businesses use PayPal. And I'm like, yeah, whatever, I'll make it easy for me to pay you. Do not make it difficult for me to pay you something. Venmo is easy because like, what's your Venmo click? You know, I scan your QR code, I send you the money. Same with Zel. Now if I got to get a credit card out, start putting that, inputting that, and it starts getting to be a hassle for me. Make it easy for me to pay you. Well, as far I did not know that.
Jeff
So. So Zel is owned by a company called Early Warning Services llc. Early Warning Services LLC is a joint venture between seven banks. The seven banks, bank of America, Capital One, JP Morgan, pnc, Truest US bank and Wells Fargo. So yes, Wells Fargo is one of the seven co owners of the Early Warning Services llc, which is all part of, which is all part of the Zell network. It's kind of like, it's kind of like the idea behind Swift. You know, Swift is a conglomerate around the world, so Zell similar. You know, it's owned by the banks.
Chip
And so what I was going to tell you about Luke Judges. Luke Judges runs the partnerships over there and he's, he did a lot of stuff with Solana, but he's not necessarily a salon employee. But Luke Judges, he is the global partner success lead director at Ripple. Again, his, his tweets, I don't know if it's not, if it's not Twitter anymore. It could still be called the tweet.
Jeff
Yeah, I guess it's, it's. It's an X post or a post or. It's easy for people to call it a tweet because that's what people are used to. It's like Kleenex or tissue people, at.
Chip
Least a lot of stuff. But things change. People released the telegraphs at one point, but they changed. You know, people used to landlines that changed. He says that most XRP folks probably assume that I hate Solana now that I'm at Ripple. Truth is, a lot of the newer crowd doesn't know that I built two startups in the Solana ecosystem and I ran a validator with less than 30 million state living through the ride from 200 all the way up to 8 down to $8 back up earns real trust. Solana is far from perfect. Validator count is dropping fast right now, but it has pragmatism and speed and XRP and, and every other L1 can learn from. No point buying your burying your head in the sand and pretending you're the only chain in town 100 agree on that yeah we're we're already seeing Ethereum foundation be much more focused in their go to market as they have lost some lunch Absolutely they've been they've been popped a few here and there JL comes in and says we can learn from all that's fair but to disagree but to a degree he says XRP's L's primary purpose was always a more naturally in demand different lane class slash class the likes of Solana Eth etc whose primary purpose is general purpose use programmability that may seem boring Luke says well I think the digital asset XRP has a strong store of value of tendencies I think if xroplit plans to solve for medium of exchange use cases it needs more flexibility and extensions of existing primitives Exchanges in a post Internet world are dynamic with multiple variable Factors and data e.g. dates amounts conditions requirements and and Jail says I think for the reasons for long term demand and what's happening now yes features to define further in its lanes while preserving the qualities that qualify quantify it must be considered on this I think talks on altering consensus slash civil incentives are mostly bad and counter intuitive so the debate goes on.
Jeff
It'S a lot going back well I like.
Chip
The fact that he's he's coming from a place of here this there's this one here yep this was a little thing he put up he said that XRP's indirect competition with enormously powerful assets and systems trade find crypto as such with as Bitcoin whilst Ethereum could dethrone Bitcoin too its purpose exists in a lower asset class so he gets into it from the highest to lowest rat he's ranking them in natural human demand first of all medium exchange needed for trade store of value preserves wealth a unit of account measures value consumable slash transformable asset sustains life energy and materials capital asset enables production a yield bearing asset generates income a utility asset is access to services A governance slash control asset is decision rights collectible asset aesthetic psychological value figure your NFTs and your derivative assets which are abstract least natural demand this is a really good list I don't know if he put this together but this pretty much sums it up right here and makes it easy to understand a lot I thought it was a really fantastic good list right And Luke chimed in and said I think digital asset XRP has the strong value of store value tendencies I think for the XRP to sell more medium exchanges it needs more flexibility. Extensions. Yeah. Something we already kind of chatted a little bit about. And then finally.
Jeff
I like that.
Chip
Yeah, this was a good one too. He said, well, how do you, how do you, how kind of wild how you hype trust in crypto land. Are you sure it sticks? And Luke says, well, I've met a lot of well intentioned builders in every ecosystem. I believe blockchains will have a profound effect on many industries. The last wave was mobile and cloud. Next wave will be AI and blockchains. We're in a precipice, precipitous of the next generation of this technology. And traditional finance is coming on chain at an insane rate. I have more inbound opportunities here than any other company in my career. That's interesting, Dante.
Jeff
Very interesting.
Chip
Yeah.
Jeff
So it's kind of exactly what's happening.
Chip
What I'm really liking, Jeff, is I'm liking some of these people at Ripple that you don't hear a lot about. Whether it's running emea, whether it's running somebody over there that's running partnerships. You're starting to hear this, this sort of sharing, you know, of thought, like thought leadership on subjects. Hey, this is what I think because they've come from other places, they have a lot to. And it's not just that narrow like, you know, Garlinghouse or Schwarz. I like to hear from other members of the team. So it's really good that they're sharing this kind of stuff.
Jeff
No, it's, it's, it's important at this point, especially for the ecosystem. You know, think about that. We didn't hear, like you said, we didn't hear from a lot of them for a long time. Really. We didn't get this kind of dissection from, from any of them. You know, until recently. Brad Garlinghouse was out there, Schwartz was out there, but not to this level. And it's, it's healthy to see because we need to see more expansion of the builders in and using the xrpl, you know, and it's right now, you know, there's a handful, some bigger names like Flare. Obviously we see what's going on with the NFT space with XRP Cafe. But I would like to see even more and more comparative, more analysis, more understanding, you know, of how important the XRPL is, you know, for the ecosystem and really the direction that, the anticipated direction. I like how he breaks it down that, you know, we're moving into, of this era of AI and blockchain and, and it's spot on. Now imagine when the two come together, you know, and you really need you. You need the smart contract, you need the. You need the trust lines, you need the blockchain that, you know, records. Now you plug AI into it. And now think about how you can help program and control the outcome with AI. Take all the. All the. The middle people out, all the human element that you really don't need in there because you have, you know, the most powerful spreadsheet or. Or accounting, you know, and then you tie AI into it. It's numeric, you know, it just seems so much better. Look at that. Went in and was able to adjust and change his name. There you go. So everyone can shed their numbers. Crypto welt did it. Went into his YouTube and test. Boom. Got shed the numbers. No more crypto wealth. 8,000, 841.
Chip
There's no space that bugs me.
Jeff
No space. I prefer the space because it was kind of nice.
Chip
Yeah. So he says almost everyone In Europe use WhatsApp. I know. 9 2008. Technology tells you a lot. Tells you everything you need to know. I hate it at the moment the Facebook and meta got in. Well, I think that's. Most people exited, but like, we're out. I mean, I don't know. I like the founder a lot of. Of signal and I think he's fought the good fight. I think he's a good dude and especially when it comes to censorship. So I kind of really trust that. Jeff. There was a video that I saw that I knew he had a play because sometimes when you see people connecting dots that after.
Jeff
Yeah, go ahead.
Chip
They're so insane, the way they connect these dots. Like, let's just watch this. And I want to hear from the. From the crew out there, but pretty much everything is in this video. And I'm like, but the kitchen sink maybe. And I'm thinking as I'm like, I watch this, I'm like, oh, we gotta watch this on the chain. But listen to this, Jeff, because I want to hear your comments right after we listen to this. Here we go. Here we go.
Jeff
My wildest XRP find ever. A fine that links a 1992 movie.
Chip
To the Federal Reserve. Okay, so are you with me so far it links.
Jeff
All right.
Chip
I didn't even have a breeze movie with the Federal Reserve. Okay.
Jeff
So far.
Chip
Okay.
Jeff
All right, I'll back it up.
Chip
There we go. Ready? Just listen, you gotta prepare for this.
Jeff
My wildest XRP find ever. A fine that links a 1992 movie to the Federal Reserve to ripple swell. 2025 and even bearable guy. So in this movie, Martin Bishop Lee reads an eclectic mix to hunt down this black box, a device that can crack every bank, every government node, and.
Chip
Every encrypted rail on the planet.
Jeff
Quite conveniently, a tool that could literally reboot the entire financial system. The NSA contract Martin's team, claiming that they need the black box for national security reasons. But they quickly realize that the NSA's.
Chip
Story doesn't add up and someone else.
Jeff
Wants the box for something much bigger. Cosmo, Martin's former part partner, reveals his plan to use the black box to take control of global finance, starting with the Federal Reserve's private transfer networks.
Chip
When the team hack into the Federal.
Jeff
Reserve's node, you can clearly see on screen XRP262. But it does not stop there. Later, when Martin's talking with the NSA agents, his partner is standing by the.
Chip
Road, and we see a evergreen shipping.
Jeff
Container pass by under the X on the San Francisco Bay.
Chip
Okay, Jeff, who in the hell even pays attention this closely to a movie yesterday? Dude, I don't even. I can't even tell you what the scenery was. I don't even know what was the writing on any of the trucks or any of the things.
Jeff
Look at.
Chip
You see this? So there's the ax, because it's a bridge. Okay. But no, it's an ax on a bridge that's right under there. Look at the dude's face. He's super serious. Jeff.
Jeff
It's the bridge that's connected to interoperable. And.
Chip
And it was that Ripple swell. Now I. I also took a video of the display that they had there. So I. I have a like a fly around type video. Here we go. Ridge, Evergreen.
Jeff
Does that sound familiar? The same Evergreen that was under an X at the ripple swell. 12, 20, 25.
Chip
This is the biggest reach I've ever seen in my life. But okay, event.
Jeff
The shipping container in the movie passing by just miles away from the Ripple headquarters in San Francisco today.
Chip
And what does Evergreen in Gematria come up as? Bearable guy. We gotta put that in the Gematra and see if it comes off. Bearable Guy. Come on. Dude, this is too much. This was just too much. I. Who.
Jeff
Unless. Unless it's more proof that. That, you know, that we're just part of some simulation that. Yep, you just have. It's kind of like a regurgitation of themes in a movie or similar music in a song. And we're just kind of on this recycled information. So there you go. You know how Much. How much can you do and. And change?
Chip
Mark Smithson says spooky stuff. That's why I bought XRP in 92. Good for you, Mark. Fantastic. I think I was later in the game. I think I bought it. No 93 or 94.
Jeff
As soon as I watched that movie and I saw the evergreen under the X on the bridge, I was in.
Chip
Smoking the G and xrp.
Jeff
Oh my God.
Chip
Yeah, hackers. I remember that was a decent movie. Yeah, hackers. That's funny though. You like watching hackers. You casually notice it says XRP on the screen and you notice where the map is and you notice what evergreen and wow. It's a lot of stuff. Future proofs. Past, right? Absolutely.
Jeff
There you go. There. It connects all the dots somehow. All right. Is number one with the. The yeti. And by the way. Yeah. Tie. The badass yeti. This is. This is the guy that we're giving away tonight. So it's one of the ass kickers. These are some of my favorite ones. This is from one of the badass yetis from the white tribe.
Chip
That's an ass kicker if I ever saw him.
Jeff
That is definitely an ass kicker. If you look at that blade that.
Chip
It's like a pickup Ass kicker for nothing. Jeff.
Jeff
Man, hell yeah. Look at that kick ass belt. Just everything about him is kick ass.
Chip
That if you guys matches the. The spear there on the end of the. Of the blade.
Jeff
Beautiful. Yeah. Look at that.
Chip
Just sickle.
Jeff
They tied it in nice. I like it. It's like a kind of an axe spear, sickle type of thing.
Chip
Kills.
Jeff
Cuteness. Kills. Hell yeah. And that guy, we're giving him away. That's badass Yeti number nine eighty. And since it's coming up on that time, we're gonna get that song fired up for you guys. So I think this is a good song. I like this song.
Chip
Today took me up, man.
Jeff
Many renditions of this. Different. Different lyrics within it and different kind of song themes and everything. But we came up with this and it's pretty kick ass. It's the ass kickers. Midnight rise Midnight rise of the badass white tribe so beautiful.
Chip
Rock it out. Full screen.
Jeff
Here we go. The cold never scares us we drink our coffee Strong badassery in the bloodstream.
Chip
Frost pumping all night long the white.
Jeff
Tribe marches through the dark Asking girls.
Chip
At your side Legends on board in.
Jeff
Silence therefore it's all the shame tonight. Right from frost the brave don't sleep even silence cracks when the mountains weep Snow drops back when the boots hit ground cold Hearts thundering ass kicker Sound.
Chip
The wind whispers their name that burning.
Jeff
Warning flame Fear breaks runs wild but it all. Yeah.
Chip
Fury Battle born battle torn Fearless and laughing that's how legends are sworn Forged.
Jeff
In badassery Loudest mythology a tribe built tough and Belarus leave badass Yetis born of legends made for battle Claim yours or be forgotten.
Chip
Beautiful man.
Jeff
There you go.
Chip
What was the gematria that he was talking about? What was the phrase that he mentioned that said it was gematra?
Jeff
I totally what it was.
Chip
I remember what he said. Like he's. I'm gonna. I'm gonna load it. Let me load it up again here. I want to see the woods.
Jeff
Only feet. This is.
Chip
What was it? I'm trying to think of what this was.
Jeff
Be my wildest XRP the shipping container in the pool. Headquarters in San Francisco today. And what does evergreen in Gematria come.
Chip
Okay. Evergreen. Gematria. Let's see what that says. Ever green in Gematria. Yeah. It does not equal bearable guy. I can tell you that.
Jeff
Oops, I'm typing in the wrong thing.
Chip
It's not equal bearable guy.
Jeff
Dude, you sure?
Chip
Well, let me show you. I'll put on screen. This is it right here. So he claimed. Hang on. Let me move this first. There. This is it, right? Evergreen.
Jeff
Evergreen value in Germadri is 927. And what is 927?
Chip
Well, there's a couple different things. Results by Jewish dematra. This is like there's nothing that looks like a bearable guy up there.
Jeff
Let me see if it was translated into Hebrew. Evergreen.
Chip
Oh, my God. Bearable guy is in there. Dude. What in the hell? Too what? There it is. There it is.
Jeff
Well, there you go. How does that fall into evergreen, though?
Chip
Well, I just pushed evergreen in there.
Jeff
But that's all simple Gematria. Because evergreen falls below bearable guy. But that's still crazy, though. How did that even. What are you even searching in to get bearable guy?
Chip
I don't know. Can you insert into this.
Jeff
I don't know.
Chip
I mean, come on. Where's bearable guy coming showing up in here for? Jesus. What is going on, Jeff?
Jeff
I'm telling you.
Chip
Insane stuff. Evergreen. There it is. Because I searched for bearable guy. Because I was like, let me see if I can find bearable. There it is. Bearable guy. What happens when you click on this? What happens? Bearable guy. How much bearable guy is in Gematria? What's the meaning of bearable guy?
Jeff
What is bearable guy?
Chip
The Ms. Prime is in here. What the hell? Hell's eternal prison.
Jeff
But how does barrel guy in there?
Chip
This is the final battle. Starboy man. Hyper Pop. Christo, not Crypto. What is all this?
Jeff
English ordinal value is 99. The English full reduction.
Chip
I don't know what that means, Jeff.
Jeff
54. I don't either. I don't. I don't know what any of this stuff means. Can be calculated in multiple gematria systems. So which gematria is it? What do we.
Chip
I don't know. I don't know. But it is very strange indeed that it did pop up. I think I find it strange as hell. Well, it's a fun thing to play anyway. It's fun to goof around with it. But I don't think anybody takes it seriously, do they? Maybe they do. Do they take it serious?
Jeff
I don't know. I. Honestly, I can't tell you.
Chip
So this whole thing with Tim Walls is blowing up. This whole thing where Trump called him out for being a. He's a retard. So here on the morning shows, Meet the depressed.
Jeff
Look at this. Hang on a second.
Chip
Wait.
Jeff
Sorry, sorry. Before you get into that. Before you get into the full. This. The gematria. So it says here. No, not in any of the major gematria systems. English ordinal forward auction or the Jewish gematria. However, the conclusion is the English ordinal. They both equal somehow evergreen and. And. And bearable guys both come to 99.
Chip
I don't know how it ends up translating into that. So bizarre, man. Holy cats. I don't.
Jeff
Yeah, one more level down.
Chip
I don't know. What is yeti and gematra? It's a good question. Type it in there, Jeff.
Jeff
They have to be the badass yetis. What does it even mean? What is Dramatra? We're looking at a number or what is it valued at?
Chip
I don't know. People use this all the time and I have no clue what it means. 31, King James. 93. Extreme arrogance, Bush.
Jeff
The gematria value of badass yetis is 46 plus 78 equals 124. So it's 124. So that's in the full reduction. Badass is 10, yeti's is 24, so it's 34. The Jewish dramat, it's 792. So the total value is English ordinal 124. The Pythagorean reduction is 34. But then what do you do with this stuff?
Chip
But here's the mix up the words.
Jeff
If you want badassery, badass Yeti, white tribe, ash, yetis or anything in the Yeti universe, Germatri red.
Chip
Just tell me Badass yeti's is not in our Gematra database. I'm gonna go ahead and add it. What do you think about that? I just added it.
Jeff
You better. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Chip
Somebody had a variable guy.
Jeff
How did you add it?
Chip
I just clicked add.
Jeff
Oh, well, there you go. Now it's in there.
Chip
Montgomery93. There's just a bunch of garbage. I don't know what this means.
Jeff
Oh my God.
Chip
It's just garbage.
Jeff
Just.
Chip
Just dumb.
Jeff
What is geriatric?
Chip
I don't know what geriatric. Geriatric is a whole different thing. This is Gematra crypto help is talking.
Jeff
About his Commodore 64. I got my Commodore 64 back working when I was absent. I got in 19. Man, that's awesome. I love my Commodore 64.
Chip
Never had a Commodore.
Jeff
You never had a Commodore 64?
Chip
I had an Apple 2.
Jeff
You had an Apple 2.
Chip
It was garbage.
Jeff
You started with the apples early on.
Chip
I did. I was an Apple guy from way back when. Now I want to punch the guy in the face who runs the company because he can't make a simple speech dictation. That works. I was watching the Bills game and I was, you know, voice back and forth, you know, voice typing, whatever. Every single time I had to edit it. You have to talk slow, enunciate every word. Meanwhile, there's a startup called Flow. You install that on your iOS and you can talk as fast as you want. Like this desert. It grabs every word, every nuance. Like, just buy the company. Dude, I already wrote. I wrote it. Apple. I like, just buy this company and make this Siri. Because Siri gets worse with every new update that comes out. Atari 1600. Yeah, baby. You know, that's great. I'll buy some more. Perfect. Perfect timing.
Jeff
Is it crashing? What is it at, like 208, 206? It crashed before it was down to 198.
Chip
Now if you bought it at 360, you're going to be upset, but if you bought it at like 17 cents, you don't give two shits.
Jeff
Like somebody here, it's down 3%.
Chip
So what? Anyway, so here's the Tim Waltz interview. He was on Meet the Depressed or one of those shows. I forget which people of East African.
Jeff
Descent have been charged, convicted and sentenced.
Chip
For stealing more than a billion dollars.
Jeff
In taxpayer money from government programs during COVID As you know, Governor, that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its Department of Corrections. So I want to give you a.
Chip
Chance to respond to this.
Jeff
Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state?
Chip
What do you think he's going to say, Jeff?
Jeff
No, of course not.
Chip
Of course not, Jeff. That's a responsibility. What would I be responsible? I'm just the governor. I'm just the lowly governor. He's thinking with that dopey look on his face. This guy was one step away from the presidency. If Kamala ding dong won, this guy would have been the vp. That's how close we.
Jeff
Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. Governors don't get to just talk theoretically. We have to solve problems.
Chip
And I will note, governors don't get to talk theoretically, we have to solve problems. I'm sorry, that was a yes or no question. It was like do you take responsibility? Yes or no? Governors have to tap on. Tim is right.
Jeff
It's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota is a prosperous days away.
Chip
Now he's defending the Somalis, Jeff. They're universally the Somalis that did all the, the stealing well run state.
Jeff
We're AAA bond rated but that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing everything we can. But to demonize an entire community on.
Chip
The actions of a few, it's lazy, is it? It's not lazy. It's spot on. That's what I call it. It's lazy, Jeff. He says it's lazy to like the actions of a few. That's what he wants to get this on. This guy is. This guy is a nut job. So anyway, they asked Trump about it again, like hey Trump, what do you think about this on Air Force One? Here he is and you called him.
Jeff
What many Americans do find an offensive word.
Chip
He says so on that in that post, you called him Tim Walls. An offensive com. Many Americans would find offensive comment. This is so classic. Listen to this. You call him.
Jeff
Do you stand by that claim of calling Tim Walls? Yeah, I think there's something wrong. Wrong with them.
Chip
Absolutely. Do you stand by the claim? Yeah, I think there's something wrong with them. This is great.
Jeff
You have a problem with it. You know what?
Chip
I think there's something wrong with him.
Jeff
Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would allow those people into a state and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia, we give billions of dollars to Somalia. It's not even a country because it doesn't function like a country. It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah, there's something wrong with Walls. There's definitely something wrong with him.
Chip
Yeah, he's a fruitcake, man. There's definitely something wrong with them. I like that. He goes, yeah, there's something wrong with the guy. Of course. Of course he is. So anyway, well, there was a couple more on this. Let's see, there was this. Let me play this one here first. So here is another part of the interview. Someone had a little bit of fun.
Jeff
With it here with Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, otherwise known as Tampon Tim or. Welcome to the show, Governor. Good to be with you, Kristen. Thanks for having me. Okay, Governor, let's get right to it. President Trump called you a retard earlier this week. And I guess my question is, are you a retard, Governor? I mean, to be honest, you do look a little bit retarded, Governor.
Chip
You kind of act weird all the time.
Jeff
Then you do retard shit like deciding to put tampons on men's packages, bathrooms. You think President Trump might actually have a point here, Governor, that you might actually be a. Well, I actually think we seem to be out of time, Governor. Thank you for joining us. Have a nice day.
Chip
You seem to be. You seem to do right.
Jeff
I wonder who's doing these things. And they're so funny. Oh, my God. They're so spot on, too. You're watching it like, oh, this is a real interview.
Chip
They do the lip sync and everything. Sorry, that's all the time we have. Are you retard? And then someone did this one, Jeff. He's wearing the, the, the hat, everything.
Jeff
Oh, my. Donald Trump in insulting me is a badge of honor for me, but I think we all know as Donald Trump insulting me is a badge of honor for me, but I think we all.
Chip
Know as Gordon helmets and hurt anybody, namely himself.
Jeff
Oh, my God.
Chip
Tim Walls. What up? What up? What a nutter, dude. What a nutter. Well, here's what's interesting about that. So it goes even deeper than this. Like this, this is a full blown. Jeff, what they like to call a full blown scandal. This is not going to end well. And check. Just. Let's just take a look at what some other people are saying here. Let me go ahead and throw this up. Benny Johnson chimed in. He's like. Over 400 Minnesota Department of Human Services employees have accused Governor Tim Walls of ignoring widespread Somali community fraud warnings and retaliating against the whistleblowers. Okay, so this is not something down hard.
Jeff
Yeah, right.
Chip
Look at this. So here it is. Here's an official Minnesota Department of Human Services employees tim Walls is 100 responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota. We let Tim Wallace know of a fraud early on, hoping for a partnership in stopping fraud. But no, we got the opposite response. Tim Waltz systematically retaliated against whistleblowers using monitoring, threats, repression and did this the best to discredit fraud reports. Instead of partnership. We got the full weight of retaliation by Tim Walls, certain DFL members and an indifference to mainstream media. It's scary, isolating, left us wondering who can we turn to? In addition to retaliating against the whistleblower, Tim Walls disempowered the office of the Legislative Auditor, allowing agencies. Hang on Steve's button. Allowing agencies to disregard their audit findings and guidance. So Jeff, this has been going on. This is. They contacted him, they told him about the fraud, they told him about the whistleblowers. He retaliated against the whistleblowers. Then you had the Office of Legislative Auditor that allowed agencies to disregard their audit findings and the guidance and the meeting. The politicians that were supporting Tim Walls on the DFL agenda attacked the whistleblowers who tried to raise red flags in the fraudulent activities. This is a cascade of systematic failures leading up to Tim Walls. Agency leaders appointed by Tim Walls willfully disregarded rules and laws to keep fraud reports quiet, even to the extent of threatening families of whistleblowers. These same leaders are not qualified for their jobs. Instead getting leadership jobs via Tim Walls state government were left floundering. DFO lawmakers refused to acknowledge fraud and deflected any serious conversation to stop the fraud. Main biased mainstream media such as WCCO and NPR showed absolutely no interest in covering fraud happenings in our own state. Programs especially in behavioral health and disability services were built without any guardrails against Frog. And it goes on and on and on. But basically this is the service that Tim Walls hang hung out to dry. And it ends with thank you New York Times for bringing the ploy to Minnesota to the national stage. Who uncovered this? Who's the one that really brought this and talked about it, did an expose on it.
Jeff
Amazing.
Chip
The New York Times. Jeff, what is going on?
Jeff
Yeah, this is, it's amazing how deep, how in depth that commentary is. Right after, you know, you hear Waltz not taking the blame for it, trying to cover it up. And he's definitely, you know, responsible for the implosion of, of that state, you know, especially along with everything that's been helping, helping happening with the, this opening. Opening what he's done to help and what he's done to instigate, you know, the, the import of all these Somalis and are there, you know, good, you know, people within that group? I'm sure there are, but the problem is that you have a vast number of them that are here illegally. And I'm going to stick by the commentary that I'll say it over and over and over again. If you import large groups of people, they're going to stick to their culture. And if you bring them in from kind of a backwards third world country to where they haven't developed and they don't have societal norms that we have here, and you bring them in in a large group and you put the large group together, they're never going to assimilate into modern culture. Modern. No, which is the right, which is the problem that you're bringing these people in and their, their claim, you know, whether whatever their countries they're from, their first thing they go to is, oh, I didn't know it was bad to rape. I didn't know it was bad to molest. I didn't know I couldn't act that way in England and some of those other countries. They're letting him get away with it, you know, but here we're done with that. You know, it, it doesn't, it doesn't, yeah, we're done. Ignorance of the law, you know, doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to you. And, but, you know, to, you know, to that point, these guys are all guilty of, of, of bringing them in here. They should all go down with the ship.
Chip
Jim D. Makes a point saying what is an argument with a. Expecting the answer. What you are saying, clearly not in a position to understand, apparently, because they're so. This gets so much better. Jeff so Christopher Rufo put this up, winning. CBS News has retracted its false and malicious claims about our reporting on the Somali fraud to terrorism pipeline, even admitting the Democrat governor Tim Walls, is open to an investigation. Rufo is, yeah, Rufo's a journalist that works with Hillsdale, A City Journal, Manhattan Institute. And he said, thank you, Barry Weiss. Who remember, if you remember, Barry Weiss, she was, she was, oh, yeah, run out of the New York Times because she objected to some things. Now she was put in charge of, of CBS News. So she's the editor in chief for CBS News, host of the Honey the Honestly Pod. And she made a complete turnaround. I mean, she's still, you know.
Jeff
Yeah, still.
Chip
So this is what they, this is what they put out. Rufo took crawl the credit. In his tweet on November 21, Rufo helped create a political firestorm over critical race theory. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Tuesday, Governor Waltz indicated he'd be open to federal investigation into whether fraudulently obtained funds ended up in the hands of Al Shabab. Of course they did, Jeff.
Jeff
They know they did.
Chip
What are we stupid? Come on. That's the worst part. It was a terror. It was funny. Terrorism. It's insane, Jeff.
Jeff
In a mass number that, that whole group of them within 10, you know, purposefully, they're over here terrorizing, terrorizing American citizens and sending and funneling money back over there. It just, it just doesn't work. Doesn't work. Got to put an end to it. Get them all together, ship them back to where they came from. They want to come back in through the legal way. Bring them in one by one, let them prove the case. And that the, the Biden administration claims that they actually vetted all these people. They vetted them. They vetted all the people they brought in from Afghanistan with that, you know, Rush, Rush. As the troops out of Afghanistan, lost troops on the way out, you know, law in a lot of Afghan. Look at Afghanistan back to the way it was before because you, you know, we, we tried nation building in a region that doesn't want to be nation built, you know, in a culture and, and a, and a heavy religious influence that doesn't want to be nation built. They want to be the nation builders or the nation unbuilders, you know, as they go around the world and try and you know, their ultimate perspective of conquest around the world. But, you know, here we go. Can they assimilate as Americans.
Chip
Brits, I mean, you name it.
Jeff
Irish, the hard way of going a hard path.
Chip
Jeff, you know, Kevin Hasset doesn't work. Kevin has. That's the National Economic Council director.
Jeff
Oh yeah.
Chip
This guy's on happy pills now. He's on the very, very short list of what I've seen to be the next Fed chair. He's like on, like, he's the guy pegged. This guy's on happy pills. I don't know what this guy's doing, but he's. Every time he's on TV I have to watch him because he's just so excited about. I don't even know what he's excited about. He's just so excited all the time. Can you imagine? This guy is the Fed chair. But anyway, he was on one of the morning shows, Meet the Depressed. Who knows what that damn shows they Have. He was on there, and he's being interviewed here, and they're trying to get to the gotchas about how the prices are going up, but everything's way more money under this administration. And, you know, you know, the trail, Jeff, you know, the normal narrative. But here he is, and the interview.
Jeff
Is that we just had the best Black Friday that we've ever seen. And it's not just because people are out there, you know, taking debt on their credit cards. It's because incomes are way up. Under President Trump, they dropped about $3,000 a person, $6,000 a family under Joe Biden, and it's up 1500 a person so far this year. And with all that extra money and with the government shutdown over, so people feel comfortable going back to stores, that we're seeing a really blowout, you know, Thanksgiving and Christmas coming our way. I think all the retailers expect, expect that both online and in store sales are going to be the highest we've ever seen. And the point is that that's happening even though inflation is way, way down under President Trump. You know, it was 5, 10% under Biden, and he's just so happy. Right now it's running at about 2 1/2 percent, and it's not. It's way lower than wage growth. So people's incomes are going up by way more than inflation, and that's why we're seeing this, these blowout sales.
Chip
He's just so happy. I can't imagine this guy being Fed chair. Well, it looks like we're doing something great. We're cutting. We're cutting it by two points.
Jeff
Yay.
Chip
Two points. You know what? I think next we'll cut it by another point. That's what we're gonna do. I'm like, could you imagine him? He's just too funny. No, this guy's. This guy's strong, man. This guy's strong. I wouldn't say put that at all. He's very smart, dude. I mean, I'm making fun of it. Yeah, this. The Bills did. I wouldn't say they whipped the Steelers. Listen, the Bills. The Steelers were in this game until two minutes into the second half, when 13, like 10 seconds in, there was a turnover or a pick six, and then there was another turnover. That basically was. So it was like 14 points went in, like, within 40 seconds. And it was. Then it was over, but it was still the game.
Jeff
That's big. But 267, that's a. That's a whoop on.
Chip
Yeah, well, it didn't It's. Believe it or not, the Bills were down going into halftime. So Bills were down like seven, three. And they. They did get some stops. Pittsburgh did come up pretty big on a couple of stops, but, you know, that's kind of the way it goes. Wanted to transition over to talking a little bit more about this guy, put something out, and I want to pull a specific post up here. Before we get into that, though, let me see where. Yeah, this is interesting. These stats are interesting. I've seen a lot of people make the argument for why a Christian societies are better than an Islamic society. This guy brought something that was kind of like a little bit on that. You know, he brought some facts and figures to it and kind of upended it a little bit, but here it is. And then I've got the data here behind it to back it up and into my argument for why Christianity makes.
Jeff
Better societies than Islam. And it's pretty simple. Islamic societies breed an inbred population. Next slide, please.
Chip
Muslim inbreeding has been occurring at a high rate for about 1400 years since the early Islamic period, encompassing most of the land still occupied by Islam today.
Jeff
It spread from the 8th to the 15th century, moved into Persia, North Africa.
Chip
South Asia, where it remains, and has created some of the the dumbest fucking.
Jeff
Human beings on planet Earth. The most common type of inbreeding is first cousin marriage.
Chip
The rates of first cousin marriage in.
Jeff
Comparison to Christian nations is staggeringly high, even in comparison to regions occupied by Arab Christians. When a nation has both Christians and Muslims, Muslims are often double or higher than Christians. Example, India, Lebanon. Next slide, please.
Chip
Muslim inbreeding. Oh, sorry.
Jeff
Sorry about that. Pakistan at 65%. 65% meaning more likely than not, you're.
Chip
Having sex with your cousin. And if you're not, you're the weird one. Okay, for the low IQ members of.
Jeff
Mdd, that means these people are more.
Chip
Likely than not having sex with their aunts or uncles.
Jeff
Equals children.
Chip
Who?
Jeff
Saudi Arabia, 50 to 58% with an average 76.
Chip
Yeah, so I'm gonna go ahead and stop it right here. I'm gonna pull this down. I'm gonna look at these stats here. Okay? So he says. So they're not opinions, they're not insults, they're published. Consanguity rates paired with average national IQs. I don't even know what that word is, but it means inbreed and saying.
Jeff
Can't even pronounce it.
Chip
Whatever. Basically means. So there you go. So look at Pakistan, 65. Average IQ is 81. Jeff, that's like you've got six graders that have higher IQs. Okay. Saudi Arabia, 58 in breeding IQ 76. The UAE 54. Inbreeding IQ is 82. Iran, 40% with 80 IQ. Yemen with 45 and a 63 IQ. Qatar with 30% and 81 IQ. Oman. Oman is 79% or 79 IQ with 36%. Syria, 39% IQ 74. Turkey, 25% IQ 87. Jordan, 32%. Think about that. Of all the new babies born, 32% are inbreeding. Your cousin, whatever. I mean, it's insane. Like you've grown up. Think about your cousin. Like, would you. I mean, they're having babies with cousins and they're having a lot of them. Morocco, 26%. This is sad. Jeff, 26%, an IQ of 67. More. Antony is 43% with an IQ of 60. Sudan is 30% with an IQ of 79. Afghanistan, 46% with an IQ of 82. Algeria, 39 with an IQ of 76. And here's the part that makes it more staggering. These first cousin marriages rates aren't even discouraged in many Muslim countries. They're just normalized, right? In some places, considered preferred, in other places, pushed away is to keep wealth in the family. But the biological cause is massive generational and marriage. By contrast, Christian majority countries in the west have rates under 1%, and their societies are modern, innovative and stable. There's no mystery here. There's no conspiracy, just biology and math. And so when you normalize inbreeding, you get generations of damage. When you discourage it, you get functional civilizations. Not hate, not phobia. It's cold reality. What cousin Mary's norms do to nations over centuries.
Jeff
Wow.
Chip
Holy cow. I was like, that's, that's a lot if you think about it. It's an awful lot going on there. No, and somebody posted this and I, and I thought about this. I go like, you know, it seems so out of left field, but I can only imagine what somebody would think of this.
Jeff
But you forgot to give a comparative what the average IQ is in the.
Chip
U.S. well, did I not show that?
Jeff
The average IQ in the U.S. is 98.
Chip
Average 98.
Jeff
Yep.
Chip
So it's not 67 or 60 or 70 here?
Jeff
No. Then you can have a, you can have a range like 85 to about 115. So it's interesting that an average of IQ tests are standardized. So the general average score is always 100. The US average of 98 indicates a slight variation when compared to a global average. Using some data Sets. So I think that's says here Massachusetts has been ranked as the state with the highest average IQ and Mississippi with the lowest at 94.2 and Massachusetts at 104.
Chip
So it's interesting MIT is there. Jeff.
Jeff
Maybe that's why MIT is over there. Exactly.
Chip
That's why.
Jeff
Comparison to what's going on in those parts of the world. Obviously there's. There's an issue.
Chip
Here is wanting to show this one. This is a. This guy goes to a campus up in Michigan and they try to do a gotcha. But listen to this. Trying to talk about the idf. It's good.
Jeff
I actually as an or observed in the idf. It's really embarrassing. It's embarrassing.
Chip
I wasn't so how many, I forget how many Arabs live in in Israel.
Jeff
Million.
Chip
2 million. 2 million of them live inside law abiding citizens, good people, you know, great part of society. It just goes to show you if there. There aren't 2 million Jews living in any mostly prominently Arab countries. There aren't 2 million Christians living in 0.00 and the ones that are getting killed. But he's. She says that's pretty embarrassing. He says I'm an Arab and I served in the idf.
Jeff
It's really embarrassing. It's embarrassing. I was a commander. Not only that, I fought for my country and I fought for my community and I fought to protect the Arab community. The 2 million Arab community that lives in Israel. Not only it's not embarrassing. I am absolutely proud of my actions to actually fight terrorists. And also when I was in the Czechoslovakia.
Chip
Jeez, facts are hitting hard here. Chef.
Jeff
Oh yeah.
Chip
She gets up by 2 million of my people who live in Israel. This is this. You need more of this stuff to get out because people just are so clueless.
Jeff
Because I was fine with having a decent conversation with you until I found.
Chip
Out you found it like you fought in a genocidal army.
Jeff
I didn't fight in the gym. In fact.
Chip
In fact.
Jeff
In fact. In fact. By the way, when I asked you if Israel an apartheid state, you didn't even know what the word apartheid means. And you said immediately. Land there's nothing to do with apartheid and land apartheid is based on separation segregation between Arabs and Israel. Exactly. Do you think I as an Arab becoming a commander over Jewish soldiers and many others like me living under apartheid state. Do you think that we are 20% of the population in Israel, the Arabs, but we are 30% of the doctors in Israel, 50% of the pharmacists. We have a Supreme Court judges Sent to prison at Jewish prime minister. We have bus drivers, we have sport athletes representing Israel. Arabs actually living in Israel and having prospering in Israel.
Chip
How about that Jeff?
Jeff
People are just clueless. They have no idea because they don't take the time to educate themselves on it. That's all there was.
Chip
You know why? Because they only can say this Zionist, Zionist. That's pretty much the only thing. That's all they know. That's all they can say. It's like they usually repeat like you know, catchphrase. It's so funny. It's like apartheid. She didn't understand that apartheid and it was more about separatism. Like she doesn't even understand these people. They just go in there and all they want to do is talk about, you know, the word. Look at this right here. This is this Irish dude that I love and he's always commenting on these videos. But this is, this is. We're gonna try merge over to the UK here.
Jeff
There seems to be this theme doesn't there in the UK at the moment where about re. Migration, remigration. Now is the kind of the issue.
Chip
Of that seems everybody's the mainstream, I.
Jeff
E. Removing people who maybe have been in the country for.
Chip
You know why everybody's talking about migration. It's a man called Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump made it acceptable to talk about. That's why they're talking about.
Jeff
Everyone's talking about or a generation or even two and especially illegal migrants as well. Anyway, after the really tragic news in Washington from This week when two National Guard members were shot, one having died since the poor 20 year old woman who has died since.
Chip
President Trump has taken to truth social.
Jeff
And all his social media platforms to basically say only reverse migration can fully cure this situation. In a Thanksgiving message he said that he will permanently pause migration from all third world countries to allow the US system to fully recover from and terminate.
Chip
All the millions of Biden illegal admissions.
Jeff
Including those signed by Sleepy Joe's also pen. He's also gone a bit further and said that any non US citizens who are currently receiving benefits welfare payments in the United States they will be stopped imminently as well. He says we'll deport any foreign national who is a public charge security risk or this line was interesting non compatible.
Chip
With western civilization and.
Jeff
And it's in stark contrast, isn't it Patrick? To the United Kingdom where we welcome anybody and everybody from third world countries.
Chip
Doing away with every single one of Joe Biden's executive orders. And what was the other one as well he said, reverse migration. So he's just going to reverse migration for people who are there legally as well. Yeah, yeah.
Jeff
And also, by the way. Yeah. So he said, reverse migration. Only reverse migration can fully cure this situation. And a few hours of ago, the Department for Homeland Security, which is basically the US Equivalent of the Home Office, they have tweeted, where is it? They said, re migration now. So even they're going, hell for leather. And it's this sort of running theme that we've seen from the likes of Rupert Lowe and kind of the other.
Chip
Sort of parties who.
Jeff
The guys who were in reform and now, not the re migration now. So the Homeland Security Department have even tweeted, the stakes have never been higher and the government goal has never been more clear. Remigration now. So this theme of remigration, just getting.
Chip
Rid of everybody, legals and illegals, is.
Jeff
Coming into the mainstream in the us it's about time.
Chip
There are millions of people in Europe, in the US that shouldn't be in our countries. They hate us. They despise white people. They seek to rewrite our history, change our identity.
Jeff
We have been around a lot longer.
Chip
Than people that look like you have been around, around. And they all need to be sent home. And they can do whatever they want back there. Cut off all the welfare. They shouldn't be allowed political power. Send them home and we'll be moving in the right direction again. France should be full of French people. Germany should be full of German people. England should be full of English people. Same with Ireland should be full of Irish people. Have no interest in seeing these places being multicultural. If I wanted Somalian culture, I'd go live in Somalia.
Jeff
Huh?
Chip
Not wrong, is he? This guy's brave, man. He. He speaks out quite a bit. And I watch. His name's Michael something. I actually invited him on the show. He never got my dm, but I invited him to come on the show because I think he's like, he's one of these voices out there that he's gonna get jailed or something. But I saw that somebody posted this, Jeff, Concerned Citizen, which is a great account. It said, just imagine if a white British people suddenly started taking over and governing towns and cities across Pakistan, forcing their beliefs and values on the local indigenous population. You can't imagine it, can you? Hi, I'm Pakistani. Look at this. This white dude. I'm Pakistani, and I'm going to be elected to start changing your laws and start instituting, you know, different rules and regulations. I mean, that's how like, this sounds. So crazy people think, well, why would you want to change Pakistan? That's the point. Why would you want to change any country? Why would you want to go to Germany if it's no longer Germany? Why would you go to France with no other France? Why'd you go to Belgium? It's no longer Belgium. Right. I mean, what's the point? Like, I don't know.
Jeff
There's that part of it, Chip. The other part is that wherever, especially if you go through the Islamic world, they go through and they purposely erase any identification of previous culture, especially religion. So if you see, like, what they've done, like, you know, within Gaza or, you know, if you go through the Middle east, you go into Iraq or, or many, many of the countries throughout the. If there's any identifier of Christianity, they wipe it out, they destroy it.
Chip
Yeah. And.
Jeff
And then they say, look, this is always Islamic here. It was never, it was never Christian here was never something before it. And so this is, this is what they do. So as they come here. And it's interesting, too, because. And I think it was Bridget Gabriel, or it might have been, actually was somebody else speaking, because she was, she was Muslim, but she was saying she's here in the, in this country. And she was saying that when, in, when you go to the Middle east, you don't have groups of people praying in the middle of the streets, blocking traffic. Said the only reason why they're doing that in Western civilization, in Western countries in the US or throughout Europe, is because there it's a dominance. It's all about dominance. And it's all about, we're. We're going to push ourselves and be assertive in this area, and we're going to show you that we can do what we want. And so they're manipulating the system. They're taking advantage of our, of our freedom of expression. And they don't do that, you know, in, in the actual Islamic culture, in the Islamic countries. And so here they are coming over here, and if you track it, you know, over all of those years, they've just conquered one territory after another territory after another territory. And now you see in some of the regions, you have a little bit of an awakening, because if you look at where the UAE is and if you go to Dubai, if you go to Abu Dhabi, if you go to Saudi Arabia, they're transitioning now, because if you go before oil, these guys were tribal. Post oil, you have a lot of wealth over there. And that wealth they knew would also eventually dry up. And they'd be left with nothing. So if the world goes through a conversion away from oil, those countries have nothing. They have no other resource other than sand and, and people. So either they're going to dominate, but they knew and they saw in advance, especially if you go to like somewhere like Dubai, but even Saudi Arabia were like, you know what? We have to become more Western and we have to, you know, look for ways to bring the western ideas here into, into their country to an extent. The question is how much do they believe all of this? You know, because you, you have a lot of big business, you know, that's there, you have a lot of money over there. They have vacationing areas over there. They allow alcohol in, in certain areas, which would be not permissible, you know, for anybody, you know, local there. It's a, it's an interesting dynamic that we're seeing in certain countries. But then you take a place like Afghanistan or you know, even Iran, which is kind of on this verge, where can they bring their country back to what it used to be? You know, can they, you know, release the shackles of, of these, of Sharia and ayatollah? You know, can they, can they get to a point where they're, they're free again? You know, and it's such a challenge. It's going to be in a, kind of interesting to see how there's a. Now we're at a moment in the Middle east where there's a complete upset because we saw Syria fall, Iran got smacked really, really hard, you know, and, but there's definitely some changes going on from a, a power hold perspective without Iraq over there. And you know, it's just gonna be, it's an interesting dynamic I want to.
Chip
See and Jeff, you know, everyone sits there and all the time like, they never pay attention. If you want like Trump's owned by Israel, Israel control, well then why did we sign the number the, the biggest deal in that region with Saudi Arabia, not Israel? Why did we do that? Why was that the biggest single ally deal that we've ever struck? Why? Because the US Is always going to look out for its own interest. But people have to understand what Israel means to the region because of Israel, because of the Abraham Accord, because of all these other nations that are joining it. They just want peace. They want. The rabble rousers, they don't accept them in their country. You're not going to see anybody from Gaza gaining entry into Saudi Arabia to Jordan. These countries want to function. They want to prosper. They're thinking about their future. They're thinking about how do they build for 15, 20 years out. They're not thinking about how can we live in swallow, you know, in just like slums. They're not thinking like that at all. That's leave it out to other countries to do that. Mark Smithson says Democrats lied seeing the Afghan regulation Refugees were properly vetted. Explain the vetting procedure. They got on planes and they came here because they were from. That was the vetting procedure.
Jeff
Get on the plane. How to use the seatbelt.
Chip
Look at this, Jeff. Is this a friend of yours? This guy came to Florida. A Brit posted a photo of him holding a shotgun while on holiday in Florida the United States. When he returned home, UK police arrested him, seized his devices, jailed him overnight for violating the 1986 Public Order Act. The process was the punishment. After sharing a photo of himself posing with the legally possessed shotgun at a Florida shooting range, a British man was arrested, locked in a cell overnight, interrogated and lectured that he must understand how posts make people feel. Police seized the computer and the phone, wiping out his ability to work police the weeks later, all charges were quietly dropped because they were baseless from the start. Critics say the ordeal proves that the UK has turned social media into a surveillance trap where innocent people are punished by process alone. The other thing that he was in the United States, totally legal, what he did. There it is. There's the guy. John Rush. Lou Booth posted a picture of himself holding a shotgun at Florida shooting range. Now, he needs a little bit of help, Jeff, with some with style there. That's not how you hold a rifle, right? You can tell this guy doesn't know how to shoot him. He's holding it like he's terrified. Like, look at the way he's even. Look at the way he's been holding his dog. It's like, okay, this guy's never shot a gun in his life. Okay, we'll cut him some slack. All right? But if you post this picture, you're not thinking this guy's the next. This guy is like some marksman shooter, right? It probably. And he's like, you know, see a proper place on his shoulder. But this is funny, Jeff. The poor guy posts this photo and then his life gets destroyed.
Jeff
Unreal. It's unreal. But there was another one I was watching and the guy was swearing. There were, you know, three police and he had said something that it was all, you know, you have. There was some, I don't know, Afghani or Paki or whatever that are offensive and assaulting women. And he Was had some commentary on it. So the police come over the. And they want to arrest him. And he said, he goes basically, he's like off, you know, and they're like, oh, you can't say that. He's like, what do you mean? I can't say that they said. Because we're, we're in a, we're in a, in a neighborhood, there's families around. So you can't say that like they, what has happened over in the uk it's the pussification of that culture. Like they're, their police are, you know, 1984, you know, the surveillance state. But it's such a pussification of their culture. You know, it's like, what is going on? What is going on over in the uk? What happened, you know, to all, to, you know, the, the footballers? I mean, where, where, where is the. It's, it's as though, you know, the men over there have lost all their testosterone. You know, I just, I just don't get. Have any semblance of understanding as to why they're act. I mean, I do, but you know, to, to get to this point, you know, a big part of why they're so, you know, they just capitulate is because of the monarch system, you know, and they're, they're so, you know, they, they love being ruled over, they love the monarchy. They need to get rid of it. They need to get rid of the monarchy. They need to put an end to that and say no more monarchy in the UK and go to a system of government to where they don't exist anymore. Because Parliament's also broken. Right? The Parliament's bro is bad. But holding on to the holding, even, even if it's just from a national recognition identifier, this whole thing, but it's holding them back. I think it's, it's a net negative at this point, you know, to where they, they have it. It just doesn't seem to be doing them well. But because of their mindset, it just.
Chip
Free speech is a privilege over there. Here it's enshrined in our Constitution, the right to bear arms. It's a, it's not a privilege, it's a right. You're born with this right, you know, so the difference is, is that you know, what you're God given, what you're born with these rights that are inalienable and that are enshrined in the Constitution versus a Parliament system, parliamentary system, where you just kind of make it up. You're like. And you don't really have any. I mean you look at. There's not. There's no constitution. You'll go look at. Well, it says here section three. No, you have to go back through logs of court cases and what the courts define. But you can change it at any time, you know, just making it up as you go along, more or less. So God given right. Absolutely. And so we're gonna go segment to our next thing, which is we're gonna give away these yetis. Then I want to play End it with two funny videos. I like to usually end it with something fun. We'll do that. Guys, type in yeti. We got 11 in the drawing today. Here we go. Boom. Yeti. Yeti.
Jeff
We do the drawing. Let's play the song one more time. Hang on. Here we go. Yeah. The cold never scares us we drink our coffee strong badassery in the bloodstream.
Chip
Frost pumping all night long the white.
Jeff
TR muches through the dark Asking girls.
Chip
At your side Legends aren't born in.
Jeff
Silence there for don't let change tonight. Right from frost the brave don't sleep Even silence cracks when the mountains weep Snow jumps back when the boots hit ground Cold hearts thundering ask it sound the wind whispers their name that burning warning flame Fear breaks runs wild but it all. Yeah.
Chip
Fearless and laughing that's how legends are.
Jeff
Sworn Forged in badassery Loudest mythology a tribe built tough and belarusly free I stick around is awaken that passion inside. Born of legends made for battle Claim.
Chip
Yours or be forgotten. Hey yet. See guys, that's it. Yeti. There it is. Let's get ready to pull it. We've got 13 in here. Got some land for that SOB. There you go. Let's go. We got 15 guys. That's a pretty steady number. I'm gonna go ahead, queue up the music and I will pull up the music, pull it up. Then we'll go to our one minute timer. Look at that. M4518.
Jeff
What is that?
Chip
4518 and 4518 at sign M4. So here we go.
Jeff
Let's start the timer.
Chip
You got one minute, one minute to chime in here with yes. I'm getting my Zombit wallet.
Jeff
It's already rigged. Or.
Chip
Take a look out on on YouTube to see if it's there.
Jeff
1.
Chip
There you go.
Jeff
Yeah, but what is for you?
Chip
I don't know who 1am who are you? 4518. Who is it?
Jeff
Great address.
Chip
We don't know who it is. Am 4 or 5 this whole thing with the YouTube thing. I won last time. I don't know if you won last time. You won this time.
Jeff
Let's go this time around.
Chip
Chose Ramen Wallet. Yeah.
Jeff
Go to the white drive.
Chip
We don't know who this is. I recognize the. Let's see. Slumping like my Steelers. Well, you better beat the Ravens next week, man. I was watching the game with one of my best buddies and he's a lifelong Steeler fan. And so we were going back and forth.
Jeff
Marriage.
Chip
That's 4518. Who's am. Alex Cobb. Sure. Check YouTube, Jeff. Make sure we don't have anything weird going on here.
Jeff
Trying to get up to YouTube. The YouTube.
Chip
And I had another story about a teacher that was jailed because he wasn't down with the LGBT thing and said he wouldn't teach us. They threw him in jail. Now thrown in jail for the third time. Don't sit around. Either you're going to rise up and you're going to have a rebellion. You're going to have a revolution, or you're going to be conquered. That's your choices. Pick one and go with it because you don't have much else going on.
Jeff
All right. M4,518. M4,518.
Chip
See? Well, you getting your wallet there, man?
Jeff
We're waiting for it.
Chip
Let's do it. All right, I'm gonna play one of these videos here. This is. This is over in the uk. Some babies had some things to say.
Jeff
I was born in Britain, but this looks like India. Nope, that's just Britain. Cheers, Labour. Ben, what do you want to do when you grow up?
Chip
Get one GCSE and live on benefits.
Jeff
Ben, how was your first week at home?
Chip
Not great. Mum's on benefits and my dad got taken by the police for racist tweets.
Jeff
So, Ben, what do you think of your co workers?
Chip
Don't know. Can't f. Cking understand them, mate. Ben, what's happening? All I said was I'm proud to be British. Thanks a lot, Labor. Ben, what do you want for Christmas this year?
Jeff
Labor out.
Chip
Labor out.
Jeff
That's great.
Chip
That's awesome. Here.
Jeff
All right.
Chip
Is that Eyeswine? Are you the one? I don't know whose wallet is.
Jeff
Who's m4158? I don't get it.
Chip
No.
Jeff
How come we don't.
Chip
If you're on two different devices, that's. That could be the problem. Are you on two different devices? Maybe that's the issue. I don't know who. 4516758 is M 451 8.
Jeff
Who is.
Chip
I don't know.
Jeff
M 451 8. I just want to say in here, I'm here, but I just want to. You.
Chip
Yeah, but you. This is Eyes Wine. Eyes Wine didn't win the thing. That's the whole point we're trying to make here. Eyes Wine didn't win. The winner is AM458. I'm gonna have to pull it again.
Jeff
M4 518, because unless you're on two.
Chip
Different devices like some other folks here are, then.
Jeff
Is it Chad? Nauseum?
Chip
I don't know.
Jeff
Chad, was that you?
Chip
This is the winner. If that's your thing, if that's yours, you need to come clean, and you need to say I'm here from AM 4518. If you don't, we're gonna look at the.
Jeff
Let's see. You know what? That might be Chad, because his icons look exactly the same.
Chip
Let's see. Let me go up here. This in the thing, repost the address.
Jeff
With some extra characters.
Chip
They try to change it.
Jeff
Okay, but this looks just like.
Chip
Trying to find Chad in the. In the chat.
Jeff
Chat. There's Chad's mental.
Chip
Did he try to change this thing or something?
Jeff
Because it's not him. Oh, hang on. He's sending the address.
Chip
But who is that?
Jeff
I don't remember. Don. It's a mystery.
Chip
There you go. He's here. Okay, so there you go.
Jeff
Oh, he put the address above. Now I'm looking for the address because the address has not appeared yet on our side. All right, hang on a second. Let me go through the chat. Top chat, live chat, all the different chats. It's definitely rigged. Oh, there it is. Okay, I found it. M45. Who are you originally? What was your name on here originally? I got it. Either way, I got it. And I'm going to transfer this bad boy over to M. That's all that matters.
Chip
We don't have to hear the play by play. Please spare me. Why play? We don't need to hear it. I want to play a video while you're sending it to him.
Jeff
It's the best part.
Chip
Destroys the show. It's the worst part of the whole entire show.
Jeff
Because this is the seamlessness of the xrpl.
Chip
We don't have to hear it. We just know that, hey, I sent it to you.
Jeff
We're getting ready to send it.
Chip
We don't have to say that. We just said. You got it. Check your thing. We're good to go.
Jeff
And we're thumbprinting it.
Chip
Nobody needs to.
Jeff
It's verifying and it's the going to be there in two seconds. There you go. You own it. 4, 5, 1, 8. Now owns badass yeti number 980.
Chip
Nobody cares. Next. I'll tell you what somebody cares about is this next Christmas video from the uk Everybody wants a piece.
Jeff
Sorry, that's offensive. We only sell evergreen trees now. Oh, what a joke.
Chip
This country. Ben, what are you doing? Changing the evergreen trees back to Christmas how it should be.
Jeff
Merry Christmas. Ben, that's offensive. You're not allowed to celebrate Christmas in Britain anymore.
Chip
What a joke. What's next? Honestly, Ben, what are you wishing for Christmas this year?
Jeff
A new government.
Chip
There he is. He criticized labor. Get him, Santa.
Jeff
What you getting on starmer for Christmas? A big lump of shit, that's what.
Chip
Ben, what do you want for Christmas?
Jeff
Labor out. Me too.
Chip
Ben, why have you decorated your room for Christmas in November? I don't believe in calendars.
Jeff
Merry Christmas to me. Are you excited for father Christmas?
Chip
No.
Jeff
Christmas is offensive and we need to respect the illegals. My God.
Chip
It's getting too funny, Jeff.
Jeff
It's too good.
Chip
Bunch of sneezes today, man. Hit the sneeze button again. Damn. Must be hay fever season. Thanks, amigos. You're welcome. Thank you.
Jeff
And if you can put your. If you put your x X handle in there, then we'll actually get that up there as well.
Chip
Yeah, we see your comments. I see them all over here. We definitely see them. It is. We need an offline producer. Great jump in. We had an offline producer for a little bit of time.
Jeff
That's kind of cool.
Chip
Just used to help us and do stuff and added some videos and stuff for us. You did have that rotated?
Jeff
The market just dumped from 208 to 207. It's down a penny. Jim D. Yes. You. You missed the yeti rule.
Chip
Yeah, but you didn't win though, so don't worry.
Jeff
You know the yeti roll, that's. We'll make a song on that.
Chip
Yeah, we have AM 4518. One big one. You missed the role, dude. But that's okay. Be back again on Wednesday when this day. That's it.
Jeff
And Tomorrow it is the 1st of December. And when we get to December 10th, we are going to have Michael Carbonaron with us. He's running for U. S. House. It's running for congress against Debbie Wasserman Schultz for District 25. I believe he might have a contender who's running as a republican. So there may very well be a race before the race. We will soon find out. But it looks like he might have somebody trying to run, vying for that spot. But he is, by far, you know, has the best beating Debbie Wasserman Schultz of anyone that we've seen run against her in, in quite a while. So it's gonna be solid. And we're gonna have him here with us December 10th, right here.
Chip
Absolute dementia.
Jeff
And then after that, we're going to try to get other solid candidates as well. So we'll roll that up probably in the new year.
Chip
We'll probably have some other cool interviews coming up, but that's all we have, guys. We will see you guys on the next one. Chip and Jeff.
Jeff
Oh, are you down with otc?
Chip
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Jeff
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Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: Chip & Jeff
This episode of On The Chain dives deep into the evolving narratives around Ripple and Solana, fueled by insights from industry insiders who have worked across both ecosystems. The hosts explore Ripple's positioning in global payments, dissect analogies from Ripple executives, and comment on the irrational narratives that often arise in the crypto community. The show also blends in broader cultural and political commentary, engaging with current events, immigration, and social policy, while keeping blockchain and digital assets at its core.
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| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Welcome & Ripple Executive’s SMS/WhatsApp Analogy | 00:01–07:59 | | Ripple vs Solana – Insider’s Honest Take | 13:58–18:53 | | Asset Classes & Evolving Blockchain Use Cases | 16:38–18:53 | | The XRP Narrative “Off the Rails” Conspiracy Video | 22:14–33:33 | | Fraud, Migration, and Cultural Policy Commentary | 42:14–57:29 | | Free Speech: US vs UK Experiences | 73:41–76:30 |
This episode offers a nuanced, often irreverent, insider look at Ripple’s evolving place within the payment landscape, strongly contrasting it with Solana’s trajectory and critiquing maximalist narratives. Through executive analogies, expert commentary, and community debates, the hosts highlight the dynamic, still-unfolding journey of blockchain and digital assets into mainstream finance. Alongside, the hosts stretch into larger societal and political debates, further emphasizing the podcast’s commitment to candid, wide-ranging opinion and high-engagement community participation.
It’s a must-listen for viewers interested in the unvarnished truths, practical analogies, and debunking of overblown narratives in the rapidly changing digital asset space.
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