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Welcome to on the Chain. This is Jeff here with co host Chip. What is going on, everybody? What's going on, Chip? I'll tell you what's going on. Today's podcast. We're going to be digging in Ripple Swell returns to New York City with some big names, even bigger announcements. Xrp, XRPL innovation is exploding from trade, finance solutions to a world's first XRPL hub on the horizon. And then XRP Soul. XRP Soul gears up to be Asia's largest conference that's coming up real soon. David Schwartz reminding us what free speech really means. And in memory, in tribute to Charlie Kirk, A story that rocked the world this past week as Charlie Kirk got assassinated in front of thousands and thousands of people. Tributes pouring in from the us, the uk, Australia, even over from Poland's parliament. We're going to break down the impact this has had on free speech, politics, the future of the movement, Crypto culture and geopolitics colliding. Let's dive in. Ready to kick this thing off.
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Let's go, let's go. Welcome to on the Chain. Welcome, everybody. Down the chain jump. Dive in where you're coming, where you're coming in from. Where are we coming in from? Florida. Florida. I love it. Crypto. Six foot Florida. What's going on, Mike? How you been, man? Mike, what's up? Greeting from Celebration, Florida as well.
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Great, Good times.
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Come on, come on now. We're gonna get a violation for that. Being so close to the original. Jeff. Yeah, I think we played the tune.
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M ant is one.
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Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah, I cut all that three years of growth off and as my wife said, the homeless guy left the building. She's like, the homeless guy doesn't live here anymore. Because I'd walk around and she wasn't very much a fan. But yeah, it's, it's, it's shaved.
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Your hair does look amazing.
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It's shaved. Yeah, it's something. I'm still getting used to it because I'm not used to looking at it. It's not like I see yourself. I still think that I have the hair pulled up in the back, but that's how it is. Thank you very much. I appreciate those nice words. But yeah, A big week, Jeff. Just an absolute big week. What's that, Chip?
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You're an ex hippie.
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Oh, I've been an ex hippie my whole life. That wasn't even as long as it was. I've had it way longer than that. When I was, when I was really young, so amazing. Like. Like my daughter. I told my daughter, she's like, you know, Pop, you always said you had one more left in you. I'm like. She goes, I think this was it, right? I go, yeah, pretty much. I think. I think I got it on my system. Was fun to do. I enjoyed it. It was good. It was. For what it's worth, right? But, you know, you got to join the. Join the living. I saw some buddies last night, and my one buddy's like, I don't know. Something's different about you. Can't place it. I'm like, my hair. He goes, oh, that's it. That's it. I. That's. I didn't notice how you're like, yeah, I'm back with the living. So I'm back with the. With the people. Crypto. Six foot. I like Jeff's haircut. I have the same one. Okay, good. Very good. See, I was gonna say, if we do a compilation over the five years of doing this podcast, Jeff's hair would be the same. You'd see maybe a difference. What you would see was like, no hair, almost a beard. No hair, almost a beard. No hair, almost a beard. Like, you see incarnations of that.
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That's true.
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I'd had all kinds of crazy hairstyles of the. Since the inception of this, so it's kind of funny. Yeah, Sorry. Been. Been a while since I've been here. Boat racing. You know how I am. We know how you are, man. Boat racing comes first, dude.
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How it goes.
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We know how it goes, Mike. We understand that. I'm an ex hippie. That's just. I think that's the best. Yo, what's up, Will? What's up? Yeah, it's been a. It was a troubling week. I mean, quite honestly. Wednesday, you know, we just. We're gonna do the podcast. Just a lot going on. Just. It was a really rough day. Just the whole. The whole Charlie Kirk thing, it's like. You know, the funny thing is, is they wrote on the assassin, wrote on the bullets. If it's the shooter, who knows who that really is? But they said they had shell casings that said fascist. And the definition of fascism is silencing your opponent. So, you know, that's really what happened. And a man who did so much, he really delivered the youth vote for Trump. I mean, and also conservatism and also Christianity. You know, he lived his faith. He actually lived it, and he was unapologetic about it, but people calling him all these names and celebrating his death, you know, Elon Musk put out on, on Twitter. That or X, I should say, you know, should the account celebrating Charlie Kirk's death be, you know, should they be, you know, banned? And I said, no, because that's free speech. Free speech is the speech you agree with, the speech you don't agree with. And as vile and as horrible as it is, somebody doing that now, it's a different story. If you're calling for somebody's death, okay, that's a different type of a scenario. But if you are celebrating someone's death and you are that you, you're. That's what free speech is. So for the other side to say, well, no, we gotta ban these people. No, it's, look, just let, let them, let them open up, let them share their opinions, and then, you know, people will either like it or they won't like it, but other people can say what they want to say. But I think that ultimately, you know, free speech is just that it has to be free. You cannot say, well, I don't like that speech, let's ban it. This is what's happened in the uk. Uk. The, the march, I believe, I don't know if it's over, but it took place today. Looked to be very peaceful. Massive turnout down in London. And we, we do have some clips of that, but I think that a lot of what they were doing too, is celebrating Charlie Kirk. And it's amazing to see how much it was. We'll get into a little bit later, but how much WorldW felt. But before we do that, Jeff, we got to jump into some crypto news. So you kind of tease this, but this is Fort Stock. Here's how Fort Stock is using the XRP ledgers multi purpose token standard to turn idle warehouse inventory into usable collateral, helping close a 2.5 to 5 trillion dollar trade finance gap. This is Fort Stock right here. Don't you hate when their name is Fort Stock, but they have to get Fort Stock 1 as their handle? That's horrible because there's probably another Fort Stock somewhere.
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Reminds me of Fortnite. Yeah, well, I'm thinking about even. Like on the chain.
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Yeah, even on the chain. But we, I'm convinced we will eventually get that. So here's Ford stock, right? Here you go. Give it a follow. We'll jump into a little bit about what that's about, but let's go through the post here. It's turning warehouse receipts in the programmable finance assets in order to bridge physical goods. Digital Finance 4 stock needs more Than just tokenation. It needs multipurpose tokens. Is that what it stands for? Yeah. Multi purpose. What the hell is mpt? Why do they do that? Drives me. Multipurpose token. That's what it is. Why? XRPL's multipurpose token is a breakthrough so you can embed legally relevant metadata like the warrant number, the expiration receipt hash directly on chain. This is cool.
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Yeah.
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Some new stuff that I wasn't even aware of, Jeff. I mean I knew about the mpt, but I wasn't sure what it really did. Captured the full life cycle of an asset. Issuance, collateralization and settlement. And there's no reliance on a complex external contracts.
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Man, we're getting, we're getting closer and closer to real world utility. You know, as they keep making these amendments and developments, we start realizing, well, as we, we're getting closer to tokenization of real world asset because there's still a lot of componen it that you need. And then if we want to create a proper smart contract and we want to be able to function, you know, with all, and I like this, without all these external elements. So if you can build it and have it, you know, kind of, you know, as part of, you know, the, the, the primary component to your transaction, then it, it changes, becomes, it becomes native. So if it's a native component, then now you're not worrying about oh, I gotta fill in all these gaps, right. So now it's, we can start from, you know, from step one, all the way through completion without having to have, have something external. I like that. I think that's a really critical element of it. And it's something that you and I have talked about quite a bit. You know, within kind of like B2B transaction, big institution transaction. There, there's so many other elements to the contract and to the, to the, to fulfill a complex transaction. And now if you can build it all into the xrpl, which right from the start, you know, it's, it's probably one of the more complex blockchains with future potential. Meaning, you know, if we look at Bitcoin, it's just very straightforward and clear. You know, here's your ledger, here's your transaction, and that's pretty much it. And then with xrpl, it keeps developing. It's like, okay, what, what was the gap that was missing? How can we adjust this? How can we continuously develop? How can we apply this to other, to, to other sectors of, of finance or other, other sectors in, in general? And so this is what we're beginning to see here which is to me it's really exciting. You know I really think that we're on to you know the right path at this point and, and we're going to see more. But this is main, this is what mainstream adoption requires. Without it it's just, you know it's, it was still a little bit clunky and, and very tech heavy.
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Yeah, well said. And no reliance on complex external contracts obviously that's a big plus as well. Ford stock tested it early this month for stock minted a warehouse receipt multipurpose Token on XRPL DevNet the issue token with detailed memo fields. It transferred it to a creditor wallet collateral pledge and then it burned it to return to close life cycle. All logic was executed traceable and on chain. This is the key thing, it's all on chain. So it's not, it's, there's a, there's a, there's a paper trail if you will to use a legacy word. But the, you have a chain of command here where you can actually always track everything because it's on chain. So it unlocks more than just digital documentation. It really unlocks liquidity and that's the key piece right there. The tokenized warehouse receipts can connect to on chain liquidity like Ripple's USD and borrowers in real time financing based on inventory not credit history Lenders transparent tokens backed by physical goods. So you can see the game is changing there too. You know when you're basing it on inventory and not necessarily credit history as a borrower and then the results of businesses and emerging markets close their finance, their trade finance gap and you know we know that we know to trade finance. You know there's some other chains that are involved in trade finance. XTC is one of them but Ripple also you know there's going to be plenty of people that are going to be in this particular area. The XRPL provides a compliance first fee efficient rails to scale globally and so if you look at what's next for Ford stock we'll get into that hopes to expand the multipurpose token to use debt instruments. Jeff we talked a lot def instruments a lot in the, in the, in the past loan tranches, performance tokens partnering with real warehouses and regulated lenders building programmable finance on real assets not speculation. One warehouse at a time. It's a whole new thing man. It's really fantastic to see this. And here's the Ford stock website right here. The future of trade finance transform inventory into institutional grade financial instruments access 2.5 trillion trade finance market through secure asset backed yields. I love a nice clean website like this personally. I know a lot of people like dark black and stuff like this, but I like stuff that just really focuses on the messaging. They're talking about the two and a half trillion dollar gap, talking about liquidity, all the things we just talked about for what warehouse operators being able to unlock revenue, seamless integrations and also having the legal protection. One of the reasons probably too they chose the XRPL to do this, boom. You click a button, you connect your warehouse and you're off to the races. So for businesses seeking capital, you can access capital built on a proven infrastructure. WMS integration, legal framework, tokenization. So it's really great man. It's good stuff. It's very good stuff man.
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Loving it.
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Love it. Slovakia in the house. Beautiful. Love to see that. Will Charles and Christina Chan, she's the senior director for ecosystem growth over there at Ripple. She commented on it as well. She said it's exciting to see Ford stock using the XRP PL's new multi purpose token standard to turn warehouse receipts into on chain collateral. A glimpse of how trillions of idle inventory could unlock real liquidity and new flows. So that's fantastic and good to see our PALS panels over there at Anados. This is something exciting as well. He they're announcing the first XRPL focused hub coming in 2026. This initiative will foster job creation, economic growth, collaboration in governments with universities, while expanding the XRPL ecosystem. So this is a lot of the exciting stuff that's happening on the rpl. Jeff.
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Yeah, it's really, it's starting to, to kick up, you know. So as we start entering 2026, obviously a lot of things that had to happen up until this point, regulatory clarity is a big one of them and we're starting to see more and more favorable turns towards regulatory clarity on a global scale. Obviously there's still a lot that has to happen here in the U.S. but with that, you know, and the development and again identifying as the world starts seeing hey you know what? Blockchain is here to stay stablecoin, the big talk of the town on a global scale. So we start making this transition to stable utility of, of the asset of a stable asset and, and that becomes instrumental in all these other transactions. So also then understanding the power and potential of XRPL and that's has been kind of, you know, overshadowed by a massive lawsuit by an out of control SEC in the US that kind of held this lawsuit ongoing for a number of years which could potentially then, you know, not just tie up development but would have potentially ended development. But here we are now we're starting to see things go almost into like hyperdrive, you know, as we, as we're covering, you know, story after story and how this is applicable to, you know, finance all sorts of different industry. And we're starting to see how ecosystems are developing and that's, you know, kind of to their title driving economic and ecosystem growth. I think is, is really spot on, you know, in terms of what we're going to see from these guys but then beyond from many of these different companies that are rolling out.
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Yeah. And the hub will create thousands of job in Thessaloniki, boosting the local economy and positioning Greece a blockchain leader. So by partnering with the government, universities will do this. So it's just, you know, this is great to. By the way, I had to look up the price pronunciation of that, Jeff. So just so you know.
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That's pretty, that's pretty good.
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Here it is right here. Okay, there it is. Thessaloniki. Thessaloniki. And then there's actually, you could actually, you can actually click on it and it produces it for you. It's like great, fantastic. So it's. So the whole idea is to have these diverse applications, secure financial transactions, efficient healthcare records, accessible education platforms, the IoT connectivity, you know, optimize. It's just, they're basically just going all in on this. So when you think about Greece, that's where Panos is located and that's specifically where Anodos is. But choosing Greece and specifically Thessaloniki, that's the city where Anodos was born, is a strategic investment that connects talent, technology and global opportunity. Greece boasts a rich pool of skilled engineers, developers and innovators. I love this, I applaud this. I think Panos is one of the good guys out there.
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We need to have him back on the show here.
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Chip.
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Yeah, need to have him back on because I want to dig in and see, you know, as he's reaching out to all these different industries and there's some really keyed in industries that he brought up. You know, with healthcare and, and trade and, and others that are really, you know, kind of mission critical at this point. I would say probably one of the biggest missing elements, the big gap within, within healthcare research is specifically how do you, how do you get people. Let's say you wanted to have, you know, hundreds of physicians or scientists or researchers all participate together out of one keyed in platform. You know, you have to find A mechanism of how do we get all these people together. But imagine as you have physicians out there providing some specific treatment, recording their, their data, their outcome, their patient, tracking everything that led up to it. You know, what is what, what was the patient presenting, how did you treat them, what was their reaction time, what were all the things that went along with that? And they are able to post that data that is all synchronized into a blockchain environment that then becomes searchable. Now you have thousands upon thousands of physicians in healthcare that have a live, growing, ongoing research to perfect outcome. And it would happen so quickly. Right now there's no mechanism in existence that would allow physicians for, from all over the world to participate in that kind of a program. Unless you're specifically a researcher and you're at this research institution and you're, you know, in communication and partnership and you're putting into some, you know, antiquated spreadsheet tracking mechanism. You know, but from this solution you could have, people wouldn't even know each other. They wouldn't know one another and they're just feeding data according to certain parameter into, into a platform and you would have outcome that and how we, you know, see helping patients recover would be, would be amazing. I mean, it would just be on a different level. We'd probably also see the pharmaceutical industry probably fight back because they would begin to realize that, you know, a lot of the outcome and you know, the detrimental outcome, all the side effects would also be recorded and it would be recorded in real time. And if you put into an immutable blockchain where they won't be able to change and corrupt data, you know, they would have to go out and find all these different physicians that it would be a blind study essentially too. So you wouldn't want the physicians to tie their name to the data. So then there's no, you know, retribution from a pharmaceutical type industry to come after somebody and say, hey, that's not accurate. You're not getting those type of outcomes with Ivermectin, let's say, you know, and they're going to come after a specific physician for prescribing Ivermectin. You know, we don't want, you know, that, but we want the data. So to me, that would, that's like the next step in research and it's going to be very impactful overall. On, on outcome.
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Yeah, super exciting, man. There's so many great things happening. I mean, it's such a great year for the XRPL builders and just, I mean, chains in general you tease this in the beginning too. This is The XRP Soul 2025. It's Asia's largest XRP Web3 conference. Takes place during Korea Blockchain Week. So they're actually, if you're over there, if you happen to be over there, you can retweet this. You get a 75 XRP Seoul ticket. And if you think about it, 75 bucks to get into a blockchain conference. It's a joke. I mean, most of these conferences, you know, you're lucky if it's 3, 4, 500 up to 1200. The conferences Jeff and I regularly attend, the attendance starts around 2,300 up to three grand. 3,200. This is just to get into the conference, right? This is just to get into the, you know, on the floor where people are, you know, hawking their goods and services type of thing. But, and so it's great, it's good to see this sponsor. You can see Doppler Finance Ripple in there. Decent. The, the wallet Axelar is there, the Gearing Wallet, which is also from Korea. And then you have all these folks as well. So it's a, it's quite a big, it's massive. Right. So this would be kind of one of these fun things. Too bad, Jeff, you weren't still over in Korea. You could have attended this as well. This would have been cool.
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I know, I thought about that.
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Could have been our correspondent on the ground.
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Dude talked about that the other day. I'm like, I can't believe it, man.
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If you'd only coordinated your trip, you could have been there. You could have like popped in there. It would be great. So that's, that's good news. Good to see that. In other news too, David Schwartz put out something very good, I thought, and you teased this as well, in the open, but he says, in a functioning civil society, everyone should truly be free to express their political and social views with the. Without fear of violence or coercion. Vigorous criticism and social out ostracism should be the outer limit, no matter what the views are. Jeff, what do you. Would you agree with that statement?
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Yeah, I, I would say so. You know, we should be able to express political views without fear, and we haven't. It's interesting that, you know, it takes an incident like we just witnessed, you know, for people to come out and, and say things like this, you know, but this is what it takes. You know, one of the things that we've seen building over a, over the last decade is that, you know, it hasn't been safe, you know.
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No, it hasn't.
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We, we've had certain views on the show. It's, it perfectly, you know, poignant that, you know, can you do it without fear of violence or coercion? Can we say to a point that if a YouTube or a previous Twitter or one of these social media platforms prevent you from getting your messaging out to your audience and they shadow ban you, or they block you and they delete, you know, messaging or they remove your channel offline because of your message, because of what you're saying that isn't hate filled, you know, and that yet they're going to react out of some, you know, immoral compass where they qualify it as a moral compass and yet they're going to coerce you to no longer be able to spread your messaging. You know, so, you know, the, the fear of violence can come in direct violence and it come, it can come from a methodology of violent rhetoric. It could be, you know, violent behavior in blocking other people's access to free speech. You know, whether you're using their platform or not, either you have a platform where you want to share dialogue or your platform is just single minded and you're creating a whole bunch of autobots out there that want to spread the same messaging and then you want to silence anyone that has a difference of opinion. And we've unfortunately, you know, seen that, you know, from a political perspective, from a healthcare perspective, from a financial perspective, across the board. And, and you know, enough's enough at this point, you know, it's, it's got to come to an end. You know, and I'm glad that, you know, David Schwarz is coming out and making these statements because truthfully, you know, we're, we, if, if we really want to, you know, finally say, you know, no, you know, we won't allow this to occur any longer, you were going to put an end to this then, you know, we also have to look at, you know, there's always cause and causation, right. So where, where does it start? Where's the exact starting point to where the, the violent rhetoric and this intolerance and the allowance of intolerance to occur? And again, let's date it back. We can go way back, you know, but let's go back 10 years ago. Let's go back to 2015 with the beginnings of spreading of irrational thought process in order to block a candidate from running for president. Right. And so if we want to date it back and we could probably go further back, but let's start in 2015. With the false rhetoric and narrative that was spread by Hillary Clinton and her campaign to try to block Donald Trump from winning an election. And then let's go forward after he did get elected, the media, the social media companies, the politicians, all the false information that was allowed, it allowed to be fomented and at the highest levels in order to remove a duly elected president of a country. And then look how it then spirals out of control and how then the media covered everything up and they allowed violence to occur in the streets to a point now that even, well, Covid was occurring. And we knew that there were ways to, you know, get people back on track it very, very quickly using things like Ivermectin. And yet the politicians and the social media and the stupid people on the street that wanted to listen to the media and the social media and the politicians and they would critique in such a demeaning, horrible way, if someone said, well, I took Ivermectin, they would come out and attack them with, with vitriol. And then, you know, from, from a conservative side, we said, okay, now we got to allow, let's just, let's, you know, have some compassion for these leftist lunatics and let them run amok. Well, you know what happened, we let them run amok. And now let's fast forward, you know, 10, 10 years and we see a great conservative thinker gets assassinated in front of thousands of people. And the, you know, the, the most grueling part about all of this, you know, was that within minutes after seeing it, we had a close up view of the assassination. And it wasn't so much, you know, that, you know, we, we lose, you know, a person like that, which was horrible at such a young age at 31 years old. But all of the kids that, that were in that audience, right, all of the people that were watching that, that saw exactly what happened. My son, 16 years old, is the one who sent me the video clip. And it wasn't the far off video clip, it was the close up video clip, you know, so I know that he watched it, you know, he then shares it with me. So if it was scarred in my memory, you know, and Chip and I talked about this on, on Wednesday and, and it keeps repeating in my head. I don't know how he's seen it. And over all the years, I always said, you know, when there were beheadings and things like that, when the terrorists were beheading people, I said, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, and if they were made available, you Know, I said, I'm gonna watch it, you know, because I want to remember how evil people are out there. This was beyond. It was beyond anything that. That I could comprehend. You know, it's just. It hit me so hardship, you know, and. And I'm looking back, you know, you know, how, how we're being blocked by social media, you know, the intolerance. And people don't understand how critical these types of conversations are that we talk about this stuff. Because without understanding all of this, you know, we can talk crypto and technology all day long. Hey, that's great. We love it, you know, but with that in the absence of political freedom and freedom of speech, then all this other stuff doesn't even matter. And we see so much stupidity coming out of the crypto community from a political perspective. And, you know, this is a perfect example right here, you know, and, you know, this, this is a person said, oh, I'm going to unsubscribe your channel. Why? Because he's, you know, from stupidity, right? Because he's not open to understanding the truth. Right? And passion there was there. He's. He's not going to give tribute to a violent person. Who's the violent person? Are we talking about Charlie Kirk or the person that assassinated him? Because Charlie Kirk wasn't a violent person. Charlie Kirk was spreading love and freedom. Right? And yet you have people like this. And this is. This is exactly the problem. You have people like this with this type of mentality and attitude. Okay? Murder and rape is. Or is. Is worse after rape and torture. Right? This is a crypto channel. No, this is a crypto geopolitical channel, you know, first and foremost. But even if it was a crypto channel, we decided to. We're going to pay tribute to Charlie Kirk and talk about freedom of speech and the impact that, you know, this type of mentality has on people. You know, then that's, that's, you know, that's what we get to do. You know, this is our channel, but you also have the freedom to unsubscribe. But I would say if you're going to unsubscribe from a channel because we're going to talk about someone that spreads love and freedom, then that's stupid, you know, that I don't want to hear the message.
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But we'll play clips. We'll play clips that define that totally from people who, you know, I heard everything. Charlie Chris, you know, Charlie Kirk is a Charlie Chris. Jeez, how's he on my brain? The former governor, My gosh, And, but when you think about Charlie Kirk, look, whether you loved him or you hated him, whatever, I don't care if somebody, if somebody on the left get executed, you're not going to celebrate their death. It's just nobody should ever, you know, we have to have political discourse. And you know, Charlie, one of the things he said was when the conversation stops, that's when we're in trouble. That's when we're not, we're not having public discourse, you know, and if you choose to leave, great. That's great. We live in a country where you can be freedom. Our channel's already shadow banned. We'd have over 100,000 people right now based on the way other channels grew. But we're shadow banned here on YouTube. It's, it's. No, it's. We lose people all the time from just, you know, we don't see where they go. We don't know that. We just. YouTube removes people from us. We're stagnant. We haven't been able to grow past 25,000. Got the 26 and have been, you know, going down. But that's when we started making a shift, when we made the shift into doing geopolitics. Because geopolitics is connected to crypto, whether you want to see it or not. It's connected because the freedom that happens in politics, what people are fighting for is what. The freedom in finance, which is blockchain, which is decentralization. It's all connected. It's why a lot of governments were very scared by it. And they're still, when they really realize the full force of, let's say a dao, you know, when you think about a decentralized, autonomous organization, you're going to have, somebody's going to step up and there's going to be a country that's going to take it on and become the first kind of country to embrace decentralization, where they're going to allow the power to be in the people's hands. They might put some guardrails around it to maybe make it more like a republic, like the US Maybe not a pure democracy, which, you know, always leads to dictatorship. But, you know, the whole idea of fascism I always hated. If fascism said it's extreme, right, you know, if you look, I'll read the definition here of fascism, far right, authoritarian, ultra nationalist political ideology defined by a dictatorial leader, strict socioeconomic controls, forcible suppression of opposition, and aggressive nationalism. That sounds a lot to me like the, like the left today. It doesn't sound Much like the right, but they always like to ultra right. Why ultra right? Because it, because of what? You know, because of Hitler and the nationalism. Nationalism is not a bad thing. It's what happens. It's. It's how you control it. But when you silence your opposition, that is a fascist. So when you silence your opposition or you try to snuff out a voice. And the reason Charlie Kirk was executed was because of his faith, because he was Christian, because he was leading young people into Christianity and also his political beliefs. But again, he debated people openly. He went on college campuses. He invited that. Who on the left is having any kind of public discourse? Anybody? I don't think so. I don't necessarily think so.
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You know, real quick, then there's a point from Chad, correct? The European definition of the right, 100% right. What, what you just read was 100%. The definition of fascism is a leftist ideology. You know, if you want to talk about it from a national. But even, even Nazism was a socialist ideology. And so it's always coming from the left. And, and that's the whole point. Obviously. If you go extremism on both, if you go on, on the right would be more, you know, religious based. Right. Intolerance based on, on religious, you know, indoctrination. And then you have. On the left would be more socialist.
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Exactly.
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Leftist, fascist.
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Well, you know what he says? I can't get used to your haircut. I'm like, I can't get used to it either, man. I still think like, I feel like I'm wearing like a wig or I'm wearing like some kind of a costume. It like hasn't really sunk in yet. Sir John says this is maybe a crypto channel, but the hosts have balls, attitude and integrity. Those who can't stand grown men and the way grown men think are not needed here. Everyone is welcome, though. That's. Yeah, it's well said. It's like, you know, it's like, I'm taking my ball and I'm going home. I'm gonna go cry. Like all the people who will play some clips today who thought it was a great idea to celebrate someone's death and saying, great, and then they got fired from their jobs because they don't want people like that working there who celebrate death. I mean, again, you're free to say it, but there can be some. There, there can be some fallout. And it does come down to the truth. Right, right, left. Same bird says karma too. To some degrees, that is that, that is a true statement. I Think more when it comes down to politicians. But I think when you follow the actual. If you follow conservatism, again, the conservatism that we call in the US because that's why I'm not a registered Republican, because I don't like a lot of Republicans. I think they're weak minded, I think they're feeble, I think they're full of crap. And I think they're no different than the left. So I can agree with you on that. Karma. But I have to stand for something and I have to be able to, you know. You know, like it says on my, on my X profile that I'm a constitutional conservative. There is no Constitutional Conservative Policy party in New York. You can actually register as a conservative. There is no conservative policy party in Florida. So. So they're not necessarily right. They're not necessarily the same. They've been more divided than ever before. I wanted to read this. I thought this was a good something. Something good that made me think, this is Tamina Deborah. She wrote this. She said, at a human level, the reason I saw this is because David Schwartz reposted. Otherwise it probably, probably wouldn't come in contact with it. At a human level, sadness is obvious. Any assassination is a tragedy. But the real weight here goes beyond one man. What happened in Utah is experienced by an assault in the very rules of the game in America. The Founders designed a system where conflict was inevitable, but violence was not welcome. They knew disagreement would be heated, so they wrote a constitution that channeled those disagreements into debate, speech and law. The principle, the substitution of words for weapons is the cornerstone of the Republic. So when Charlie Kirk was shot on stage, the principal was attacked. And those even who didn't even knew him or liked him, who opposes politics feel a wound because the injury is not only to him, it's to the American covenant itself. You're right to feel grief, even if you knew or liked him personally. Whether you're grieving is a breach of the Founders promise that debate would be sacred and bloodshed would have no place in it. The fear, the unease, the sense of disorientation that comes from watching a principle you rely on die before your very eyes. The good news is that America hasn't endured breaches before. Violence has challenged our principles many times, yet each time we found the will to recommit to them. That must be the response for now. Grief, yes, but also resolve. This is what Charlie would have wanted for us. America is worth fighting for. Thoughts on that?
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Who wrote that?
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This is somebody called Tamina Deborah, she's. I just saw, I don't know who she is, but I just saw that David Schwartz reposted it. She's an attorney for fighting for three months Institute for Justice, which I know that pretty well, but again, the, the whole idea here. Well, she's tapping into something a little bit deeper than anything political, which I thought was actually a pretty good, it was a good take and Schwartz reposted it, which is something that I, what I watch. But this is the fallout you get. Jeff, like Tom Emmer posted this. He says shame on you. This is Ilhan Omar from Minnesota. She, he says you used your platform to share a disgusting video, a video full of lies. It tries to justify the actions of a drange coward who murdered Charlie Kirk with your nearly 3 million followers. Charlie was a loving father and husband, dedicated his life to conservative movement and to create a healthy, non violent space for civil debate. This is a new low, even for you in this video. I don't even want to really play it. I have it. It's funny because it's, it's people putting on a new sunroof, but it's what's set over top of it. It just is just, you know, it's, I mean, basically if I do this, it's reprehensible.
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It's totally reprehensible. What these people. And immediately, even when they wanted a moment of prayer, you know, they said they wanted a moment of silence, then they asked for, you know, a moment of prayer while this was happening. And the, the members of Congress melted down on the left. They're, they're so immorally, you know, deranged that they couldn't even have a moment of silence for someone that, that just got shot. And it was, I mean, how, how is it that they're immediate and, and this is how, you know, that they hate America, that they hate this country, that they hate our constitution, you know, 100% where these people stand. And the other point is that, you know, if you think about through all of this time, there wasn't one point where politicians, Republican or conservative politicians ever came out and tried to demonize individuals. Right? Whereas the left, the politicians right, came out and demonized the people on the street. They demonized Republicans on the street. They went after individuals and again the, the, for the most part, and unless you can find one, you know, but on the conservative side, they never demonized the people on the street. They went after the party leadership, they went after the elected officials, they went after the non elected bureaucrats that were causing the problems. They went after the activist judges that are, are, you know, and now we're seeing there was a judge that wasn't even an attorney, that's a judge that obviously, you know, was put there at a pretense to support whatever leftist causes they, they wanted to promote. I mean, the whole thing is just so twisted upside down how crazy it is. But this is what galvanizes people, right? You take out one of our, you know, top thinkers and here's someone that went on college campuses for discourse to get all sides to talk to each other and this is who you choose to take take out. You think that that is somehow going to be resolution to the cause of the left. This is the end of the left left. The left doesn't have a moral compass to move forward beyond this at this point. They lose everything at this point. Why? Because now if you think about the left, you think about a Democrat. If you're, you're a Democrat out there, you are now the party of hate and intolerance. And that's it. There's no way, there's no escaping it at this point. This is what they preach, this is what they stand for. And if you think, and you want to have the, the avatar of a democrat, it's going to be a woman with pink hair, you know, that is just completely insane out of, out of her mind. And then you, you know, and then you'll see how they, they adhere to the Islamist cause, they worship the Islamist cause, they promote the Islamist cause, they spread the Islamist cause in this country. And, and this is how they're so irrational. And now, and then they're going to come after people that want to promot sharing of thought, sharing of experience, sharing of dialogue. They're against all of that. And if, if anything, if our experiences going again, going through Covid didn't teach us anything. It was that those on the left were completely intolerant of reality, completely intolerant of facts. And now it's, now it's magnified to a level of, I don't know, it's like a hundred time magnification at this point. Now you can't unsee it. Now you can't unsee everything that they've done to undermine civil society, whether it's at the, at the primary education level, at the high school level or at the collegiate level. They're trying to undermine our freedoms and our constitution at every, at every direction. And you have to wake up to that because in the absence of freedom in this country, forget about crypto I don't care how much crypto you have, I don't care what you've done. In the absence of freedom in this country, the whole world melts down. We're seeing it, we're seeing the meltdown over in Europe right now because of the fact that they lack freedom and they're trying to arrest people for what they think and what they post on social media. That cannot happen and we're not tolerant to that kind of thought process. And this country is the only country in the world that will be a beacon onto others and will be the beacon of freedom that will fight that right on.
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Jeff, well said. That was beautifully said. Justin, go ahead and post your. I don't know of any comments getting deleted. Maybe it didn't post or something, but go ahead and put your comment there again. Let's see if we see it. We're not deleting comments. Nobody has the right to delete comments. I mean necessarily the, the way to delete it. But I want to go through some and unpack some of these. Sir John said that, by the way, Europe is so crooked that we who support Israel are seen as Nazis. And I'm not kidding here. He also said that when people have no moral, more morals, hate you, you know, you're on the right path. True.
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That's a, that's a really good statement.
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Chad says I don't know what a Democrat sees from atop their horse, but I know it's not the moral high ground. Well said. I really want to leave Europe. It's, you know, stand and fight, man. I mean, this is it, visual vendetta. Let's let. Politicians are corrupt people who act like they care, but in actuality, they get their money and power by manipulating the people with false facts, information. Example. A man can give birth.
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Exactly.
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Man can give birth. Right. Like, like it was always about the science, but the science, except when it.
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Comes to the actual science, then more monkey business. Hatred is a disease that eats the best part of your brain with no cure. And that's it. If you, if you hate it, it fills you. I mean, it's such a dark place to be where you have to hate people, you know, and, and that's where, you know, on the conservative side, my mantra is always keep our arms open because at some point even those with the, the leftist ideology will come home. And we've seen that multiple times over. Some are too far gone, they'll never come back because they're so mentally deranged, they're so filled with hatred like Monkey Business said they're so filled with this demented rage, there's no way to get beyond it, because now their brain has been impacted and they're just so sick with that. And those. That has to be, you know, the edges of civil society. There's always going to be people like that on the. On the periphery of civil society. The majority of people, I believe, want to live within civil society. I don't care what part of the political spectrum you're on. They want to live within civil society. And the, you know, the minority are the ones that will influence. But then we see an entire political party that's hijacked by the periphery. You know, that. That doesn't work. It really doesn't work.
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I wish we could maybe play. If Tommy Robinson is going to hit the stage, I'd like to see. I don't know who has that link to the live stream. I was trying to. I was trying to find it here, but this is Justin's comment. He was wearing a vest. It deflected on the top of it, went through the neck, hitting the brain stem, killing him instantly. Seen a few trauma surgeons and doctors confirming the same thing. Yeah, I've seen that. I've heard that as well.
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So. So we were. We had a. A doctor in the office when this was all unfolding, some guys doing some stuff. And. And so I. I immediately went in. I'm like, oh, my God. You guys see this? And we're watching this video. And it was. It was instant, right?
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They.
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They were saying, oh, there was, you know, stabilized and critical condition. No, it was. It was instant nick. The carotid artery, the flow. The blood flow was just. It was crazy.
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You even see his shirt jump. His shirt jumps. Like your shirt wouldn't jump if it hit you square in the neck. So, yeah, you know, when I saw that, you know, when happened. He did wear a vest.
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So bad. It was so bad.
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It was so horrible. But, Jeff, not to segue here, but I forgot to play this Ripple Swell video. So we're gonna like. We kind of like went right. Right over it. But I want to play this because I thought it was pretty good. Let me play this. I'm here in the city that needs no introduction. There's no mistaking its skyline or its neighborhoods. And from Wall street to One World.
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Trade, it's the largest financial hub in.
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The world, truly powering the global economy. That's why I'm proud to share that New York City will be the new.
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Home for Ripple Swell.
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Every year, the brightest minds in fintech, crypto and economic policy will gather here.
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To exchange bold ideas and forge meaningful connections.
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I hope you'll join me for the 9th annual Ripple Swell in the city that never sleeps.
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It's going to be in Miami.
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No, New York. I will be there, Jeff. I've applied every year since 2000 and 20. 20. 20. Yeah, since 2000. But 2020. And I finally was. So I'm excited about going there. Yeah. So I was like, even before they existed. It was fantastic.
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He's already applying.
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Adam sand says the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been keenly felt by many here in the uk. I personally found it really unsettling and deeply saddening to all my brothers and sisters in the West. You're not alone. Yeah. And this is the thing, you know, I was answering somebody, one of these dingbat leftists on. On who happens, who used to be part of the XRP community, I guess to some degree is. But how to say that? He said it was just a random right winger, so why would he have security? And it was like random, this guy. I mean, there. There is. This was felt worldwide because it was an attack on, you know, humanity itself, quite honestly. And I'm really happy to see the Brits standing up. I'm happy to see what's happening across the UK from Ireland and, you know, up into Scotland. I'm really happy to see that the fight is there because it's your country. You got to preserve your own country, man. And this man here, I thought this was great. And I follow. I follow him on X, but check out this message here. And he talks about why Charlie Kirk is not a racist.
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Charlie Kirk sent me a direct message and I'm going to show you what it said. This is almost six years ago exactly. Now, as of this video, I had not spoken to him in person or on social media. He started the conversation. You know what he said? Three. Three words. You are terrific. Now, bear in mind, this is back before I was blessed with the followership I have now. I had fewer than 10,000 followers on Instagram. Very small Facebook presence, wasn't even on TikTok at the time. The fact of the matter is this young man, this leader of Turning Point usa, reached out to me and saw something I had done. And he felt so moved that he reached out to me himself to encourage me. And then he went a step further. He invited me to the BLS, which is the Black Leadership Summit 20 Turning Point USA was putting on in Washington D.C. i told him transparently I was in between jobs and didn't have the money to fund my trip. He told me that they had scholarships available and to email him directly and he'd be able to take care of it. I did. And that's the story of how I got to be a part of the Young Black Leadership Summit, which was instrumental in springboarding me to where I am today. Now I share that story because he didn't have to do that. And if he was a racist person, why would he do that?
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That?
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I'm so tired of people being besmirched by the tired liberal lie that anyone they don't like has to be some sort of racist. And I'm not immune to this. They call me racist myself. Of course it's ridiculous on its face, but this is the nonsensical nature of your average leftist. They really want you to believe deep down, Charlie Kirk hated all black people. He saw the best in everyone. He saw in me, something I didn't even quite see in myself at the time. And he chose to encourage me. That is why I will literally and metaphorically pick up that mic and continue the work that he started. Because I, myself and many others are tired of being slandered and maligned by individuals who have nothing to sell us but fear, panic and lies. 24 7. I had to share that story with you. I thought about keeping that to myself. But the more I see him being typecast as some sort of evil person, the more I cannot be silent. And I hope that you will not be silent as well. It is time for action like never before. It is time for voices to rise like never before. And I hope you will join me in that effort. So that is the real Charlie Kirk. The one I don't want you to know, but the one I will continue to remember and honor with my actions into the future. So those are my thoughts. Hopefully you share and hopefully you get busy as well because we all have microphones to pick up and we are all Charlie Kirk.
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Man.
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Well said.
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That was really well said. That was great.
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Well said. And you know, I'm see, I'm seeing this, you know, and people are saying about. And honestly on my feedback, I see nothing but black people non stop. It's like my feed is 100% like I see every one white person to like maybe not just talking about the impact. And there was this young, young man who's maybe 12 years old. He gave such a moving tribute and talked about him and what he meant to him and how he looked up to him. I mean it's, it's Incredible. And people who don't even take the time to listen, like, you know, another false narrative, too, is that he hated gay people. Right? And here's him engaging with, you know, in one of his, you know, college appearances. But if you listen to what he says, he. Because he's Christian, he basically comes out and says that he doesn't agree with the lifestyle, but he embraces the people and welcomes into a movement. So if you can't understand that, you don't have. You don't have a, you know, an advanced enough brain. But see, I don't think even people watch it, because you go with these people on the street, they go like, why do you hate Charlie Kirk? I don't know. He's a fascist. He's a this. Well, tell me one thing. He said, can't, because they don't. They just. They're mindless people that follow stuff. They can't even think for themselves. But here we go.
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I do not have hate for a group. I do not have hate for a people.
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So just so I can get it on my camera.
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So don't worry. We got plenty of cameras.
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But, yeah, but yes.
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So you do not hate the LGBT community. And Turning Point is not against lgbt.
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How. How could I hate that? Which I have a heart for.
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For. Thank you.
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And I might not agree at that, for some of the lifestyle choices that some people make, but of course not. And if someone said, charlie, what's your view on marriage? I say, I believe marriage has been one man and one woman. But if you ask me, what do I. Do I have hate in my heart for somebody that doesn't. That doesn't choose the lifestyle that I believe that God laid out in the scriptures. Of course not. The question is, is macro Islam compatible with Western values? Macro? Of course it's not. There are three major, major reasons why Islam does not believe in freedom of speech, Islam does not believe in freedom of religion, and Islam does not believe in separation of mosque and state. Those three things are antithetical to the West.
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So why do you care so much about other individuals living their lives? What is affecting you? Do you have something up your A or something?
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Well, I could throw that right back you. Why do you care so much about what I have to say?
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Because you're affecting other people's rights. You're taking away people's choices. You are hurting people.
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So. So again, you say I'm here to take rights away.
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Yes.
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Do you agree life is a right?
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I feel like if it's a clump of cells, then it's not like.
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No, no, but let's go back. Do you think. Do you think every human being has a right to life?
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Depending on how many weeks. But let's.
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Wait, hold on. Who's trying to take rights away? I want to protect the rights of all human beings. You call them a clump of cells.
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I was born as a man. And now he was very effective. Jeff, I'm a woman.
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Okay? No, but you don't become a woman just because you dress like a woman. So let me ask you a question. If I wear a disguise or a costume, do I become that thing? For example, if I dress with a sombrero and start talking with a Mexican accent, do I then become that culture?
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No, because that's different race.
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Okay, but then. Wait, how is it different? Because you're saying that if you dress a certain way and you present a certain way, you can be as you think you are. Why can't I also just choose what culture I am?
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Because you are born within a culture you are born with, but you were.
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Born as a man.
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Pretty simple there. And then Stephen Miller went off. Stephen Miller, who I love, but he. He. This is. This is good.
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And let me tell you something, I'm not sure with anybody, but the last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us. And we are going to do that under President Trump's leadership. I don't care how. It could be a RICO charge, it can conspiracy charge, conspiracy against the United States insurrection, But we are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots, that are doxxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism and that are committing acts of wanton violence. It has to stop. And my message is to all of the domestic terrorists in this country spreading this evil hate. You want us to live in fear? We will not live in fear. But you will live in exile. Because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you. We use to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law, to take away your freedom.
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Sean, go.
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It has to happen. You know, enough's enough. You know, there's those out there that are spreading intolerance, fear and violence, and some of them are elected officials. So those elected officials can't sit, you know, cozy because they are an elected official. They also bear responsibility. Judges bear a level of responsibility. If they let violent offenders out over and over and over and over again, there's a level of responsibility that has to be applied. And, you know, we're, we're going to get to that point. And all these organizations are running out of money also. All the NGO money, the usa, all that is dried up. They don't have money.
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So, you know, Jeff, let me show you. Let me show you what Islam thinks about the, about the gay movement. Look at this. Watch this story here. This is. This is insane. Do you understand? No. What.
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He knows exactly what's going on.
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What's your name, mate? What? British gay couple who welcomed the refugee into their house. They both ended up being beheaded. Justin Moscara's savagely violent actions have caught.
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Up with him at a train station in Bristol.
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Surname.
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Paul Longworth and Albert Alfonso were.
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Decapitated and dismembered in their own home. I mean, this is, this is this. I mean, think about tragedy. Here's two men who welcomed this, this, you know, immigrant into their home, opened it up right to their. And they end up paying with their lives. I mean, this is just. I'm sorry, man. This is the problem is that people don't understand. And meanwhile, you have the left who are attacking the right for, you know, because of the lgbt, they don't like gays, all this stuff. Meanwhile, here's two gay men who open up their home and try to give this man a start, and then they end up getting killed in a violent way. It's just, it's. It's very tragic, man. It's very tragic to see that. And this. And unfortunately, this is just the way. Way that this, that they think that's it. They don't embrace it.
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Sir John is saying mental disorders are real. We as a society have to enable treatments to all in need of them. Supporting the disorders, not helping them, but is endangering society. And liberalism has become a. A mental disorder. You know, and so. And XRP Plumbing is saying, you know, big part of everything there that's been disseminated over, over time is really, you know, also to divide and conquer. You know, all the hate that is fomented, you know, between the people. All right, so if we keep elevating hate to a level where there becomes violence, that's exactly what they try to do. They want to fragment everything that we're building. And so there are entities at play that are Spreading the hate and intolerance, you know, and, and we're seeing so much of it, you know, coming, you know, through social media, through regular media. It's not just social media. The regular news spreads misinformation, lies and deception on a regular basis. TV shows, comedies, dramas, movies disseminate all of this stuff. I mean, it just, it goes on and on how the brainwashing has taken place from lower schools and all the way up through colleges. And we see these college campuses are in complete meltdown because we have people that are going there. Maybe they shouldn't even be there on college campuses, but they're not there to learn. The professors aren't there to teach. You know, so what, what are the kids going to college for? You know, when you have, when you have this mix, it's, it's starting to become irrational. And, and it's all just based off of brainwashing.
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Right? And Steve Willis says this. He said, I'm positive some countries that emptied their jails and told prisoners to go to Europe. What do you think? Everywhere, I mean, Australia, it happened here in the US Most of South America emptied their prisons. They emptied their prisons. They got rid of all the prisoners, they sent them, they flew them here, they got them to the border. It's exactly what happened. And when you have Trump saying, hey, we got to get rid of the people, the bad people. Oh, you're racist, you're. This. I mean, listen, we all know it's the voting block. They really don't care about these people. They armed that. They. How do you think 5 million Social Security numbers made their way into illegals? Right? I mean, you know, there's, there's. Because they could get, they could be voters. This is a voting bloc. They're going to. Listen, they're going to get destroyed in the midterms next year. They're. This party is on its way out. It's. It won't even, it won't even exist as a party anymore. People are tired. My feed on X and Also on, on YouTube is filled with people saying, I can't. I don't even like a lot of things in the right, but I can't be part of the Democrat Party. I'm going to join. You know, I'm going to become a Republican because I can't tolerate anymore. I can't. I can't deal with people who would celebrate someone's death. And these are people who don't even agree with a lot of the things that just can't be part of it anymore. And this is what's happened. They this bled more support on the left than anything else. I mean, it really, absolutely destroyed the left. Here is a compilation of people who effed around and they found out they wanted to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk. And unfortunately, the workplaces didn't agree with that. And they said, we don't want someone like you being working here. Here we go.
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So y' all got me fired for my job.
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You're fired. Get out. You're fired.
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So I've lost my job.
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You're fired. Get out. You're fired.
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Fired from my job.
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I was just fired from my job. I was just fired from my job. I was just fired from my job.
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You're fired. Get out. You're fired.
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So I was just fired from my job.
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You're fired. Get out. You're fired. You're fired. Get out. You're fired.
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Another one bites the dust. Can't play that song.
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No, it can. Now.
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A 911 dispatcher from Nashville, Tennessee.
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You're fired. Get out. You're fired. You're fired. Get out. You're fired.
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Unfortunately, unemployment's going to go way up this next quarter because of all these nut jobs getting. Here's Jeffrey Mead talking about it. I don't know if you saw this video about somebody who wanted to take to a vigil. It was a picture of Charlie Kirk and the date on it and that. Well, that's all it was. He tried to get it at one of these Office Depot type places and this is what happened. So they refused to print it because it was propaganda, they said. Right.
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So that employee from Office Depot has been fired. If you're unaware of what I'm talking about, here's a video to catch you up to speed.
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Real quick.
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Quick.
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Somebody that propaganda.
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It's not propaganda.
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I'm sorry, we don't print that here.
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All righty. So who we. What's your name?
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I'm Pharaoh.
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I print supervisor. I'm one of the managers.
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Yes.
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So unsor, unfortunately.
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So they say they don't print political propaganda.
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So this is somebody that passed away a couple years ago that's political propaganda.
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Unfortunately, I'm.
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So this is for a prayer tonight.
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For a prayer vigil.
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It's still propaganda, unfortunately. What makes it propaganda? Because he's a political figure and I don't have to.
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Office Depot posted this like 15 minutes ago. We are deeply concerned by the incident that occurred at store 3382 in Portage, Michigan. The behavior displayed by our associate is completely unacceptable and insensitive violates our company policies and does not reflect the values we uphold at Office Depot. We sincerely apologize to the to the customer affected and to our community for this regrettable situation. Upon learning of the incident, we immediately reached out to the customer to address their concerns and seek to fulfill their order to their satisfaction. We also launched an immediate internal review and as a result, the associate is no longer involved with the organization. We are committed to reinforcing training with all team members to ensure our standards of respect, integrity, and customer service are upheld and at every location. Our customers and communities deserve nothing less accountability. Respect to you, Office Depot, for handling this quickly and efficiently. Also, guys, just a reminder, I have a free email newsletter where I go into more detail about many of these topics. This is one of the only places.
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I can't recommend following this guy. This guy is fantastic.
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That's really cool.
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Yeah, it's like, hey, well look, you know, and the thing about it is, is like. And people are upset about it. Like freedom of speech. Yeah. But sometimes there's consequences. People don't. There were some high profile people who, like an assistant dean at a college or was let go because you're dealing with students. If you can't be middle of the road, if you're going to celebrate someone's death. And again, that you have, I. I support the right for them to say it. But again, you're the place of business. The place where you work may not agree with that and they may not want someone like you working there. And that's just. Unfortunately, that's the get rid of people.
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Yeah. Hey, Chip. We total, because of the topic and everything, kind of missed the whole segue into the giveaway today. So we're kind of over the top of the hour. Gonna put this. This new song up. We're giving away a badass Yeti.
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We have three entries so far, Jeff.
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Three. Three entries. I haven't been any Yetis. Everybody can go ahead. Even if you've won. We're gonna let everybody jump in on this one. So go ahead and play the song. Get ready. Two things you got to get ready. The word of the day and your Zaman wallet. So here we go.
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Are you ready to walk into legend.
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With the blue tribe.
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Or vigor?
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Calls of clan? Spirit walker Born in shadow, forged in flame Word of the day Yeti.
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I.
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Walk the mountains, ice and flame the wind itself repeats my name or vaporizes steps unshaken the path I walk cannot be taken. Spirit walker I roam the night Stars above my guiding light Every step the earth does roar Legends live forever more Obsidian bold roast strong strength within what yeti's bow Drink it hot the fire flows yetis coffee.com it grows so lift your voice the story sings Jeff and ship the tribe they bring but beware of Charles collector of lore the Yetis vanish he wins the them all.
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Made.
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For love Legend claim your be forgotten.
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He'S on the chain. That was awesome. Rough weekend, man. You can always kind of rough recon to jump in support for the show. Thank you for that, Rican. Appreciate that. My man. Always. He's always there, always supporting. Going back five plus years. OG in the community. Look at this. I got Rick Rolled. Rick Astley, stunt double Rick Roll. Thanks, man. I need to chair my hair. I need to change it up. It's still pretty long on top, though. Yeah, you know.
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Oh, look at that. Oh, that's crazy.
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This is my Flock of Seagulls haircut now, so I can do a Flock of Seagulls. Yeah, I'll just do the show like this. From now on, you say Rick Astley. Man, I got to change it up here. M. God. Dude. So, yeah, it's still. Still long up on top there. Banger. Nice place, nice product placement. That's the whole key right there. Go to badassjetas.com and get yourself some Obsidian Bold or whatever you fancy. I mean, it's fantastic coffee. We talk about it all the time. It's. It's good. Look at this. Holy cow. Charles coming in with a big old banger. Bam. God bless Charlie's family. He's dancing in heaven. Yeah, dude. I gotta say, one of the most things that, like, brought tears to my eyes was watching his casket being rolled in and watching his wife touch his hands and, like, just say how much she loved him. I'm like, there's nothing that could be more horrific than that. You know, having to bury, you know, a spouse, it's. It's just. It's too much. This is. This is Tommy Robinson. I loved what he's had to say here. And then we're going to show some of the tributes from around the world here.
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We'll have a lot to say about Charlie Kirk at our event. Let me say one thing, though. What did he speak about? Courage. All the time. Showing courage. Do you know that assassination, that attempt, is to install fear into everyone, to prevent people standing up and to prevent people speaking up. You want to honour Charlie Kirk, you go and speak up. You speak louder. You scream if you have to. So to anyone who is contemplating not turning up at A protest or a college camp, purpose or a debate, that's the last thing you should be doing. You want to honor that man and give it the legacy that he's leaving? Stand up and speak. Show courage to speak. Don't give the bastard who's murdered him or the organization or the corporation or the government or whatever it is that's killed him. Don't give them what they've wanted. Don't let them win. Now is when. Now is the time. Now is the turning point.
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Point.
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Now is when you speak louder than ever. Ever. You cannot allow that. That doesn't mean you're not scared. You can be scared. As he talks about courage is being scared, but still doing the right thing. Free speech, it's not just a right. It's a biblical right. It's your right to truth. So as we're preparing for our event on 13th September, March for your country. Okay. March for freedom. March for your children. And march for Charlie Kirk. And God bless his family and God bless the United States of America and their belief in free speech and their fight for us. Charlie Kirk spoke up when I was imprisoned, Charlie Kirk spoke up against what was happening in Britain. He visited and he spoke up in the defense of our freedom of speech. We looked at JD Vance, we looked at Elon Musk, we looked at Donald Trump. There's. There are the people defending us. And we will make sure that the million bricks that turn up on Saturday honor the life, the sacrifice and the legacy that's going to be left of Charlie Kirk. Join us.
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I'm gonna try to get Tommy Robinson on this show because we're defending. We've defended them. We defended. I've been a big fan of his for the last 10 plus years. He's fantastic. So I also want to thank flatliner as well. Flat letter for the get for gifting it on the chain membership. Also a big shout out to Charles and also rough Rican, major OG in the community. Thank you guys for the. Appreciate the phenomenal support there. Also, here's some. Here's what happened in Australia. Check this out.
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One of the things Charlie Kirk used.
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To do before he started country, he loved the bagpipes. He loved bagpipes.
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Whenever I hear bagpipes, there's still in my spine. I straighten up.
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I push my shoulders back. Look at that.
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Which I didn't show the whole thing and I couldn't find the whole thing. But it was just fantastic. There's a lot of people there. I missed. Amazing.
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Yeah, there's.
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This isn't Some random guys. And here we go. This is Poland in the parliament and Polish parliament.
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Yep.
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It's a tribute for Charlie Kirk. They held a moment of silence. And also too, I had a big shout out to the Yankees, who also did a moment of silence. But it's, you know, on the Cubs where Charlie Kirk's from. He's from Chicago. They put up a big thing, and, you know, I applaud that. And a lot more people have asked for it, and they asked for it in Congress, like you said, Jeff, and they were turned down. I mean, regardless of who you. I mean, this whole idea, when you just go, like, I don't know. I like the message. If you don't listen to the message. We played a couple clips. There's thousands of these clips around where it's totally contrast counteracts anything that's gone before. Oh, holy cow, man. Bam, man, that's massive.
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Appreciate it.
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Thank you so much. And you know, one thing I'll say about Mike, too, is that not only not only does he purchase the coffee, but he goes on to talk about how much he loves it. Recently, James Rule. I said, hey, James. Because I said something about our coffee, and he goes, oh, dude, I didn't know you had coffee. And I was like, yeah. So he bought some. He's like, dude, this is. Is really good coffee. I'm telling you. It's like, you're not just bullshitting me. And so thank you for that, Mike. Thank you for being a big supporter all these years, man. Thank you for being a friend. Really appreciate you, man. Appreciate you guys. All of you guys. Visual vendetta. There's 589. I love that 589 in there. Visual vendetta. Thank you for being a part of this community and for the support for all you've. You guys have done. So we appreciate the support. Again, these kind of things kind of just cover, you know, the. The streaming stuff, the streaming software, the bills and stuff like that. So it's. It's well appreciated. So we try. Our whole goal is not to come out of pocket. We've been pretty close to doing that, but it just covers our covers of stuff. So we're very happy to have that support and really show your appreciation. So thank you for that, man. Much appreciated. So, yeah. Whoa, Mike. Yeah, absolutely. Whoa. Love you all. Yeah, man. Look at that. And look what he has for his avatar right there. Badass Yeti's coffee. Hells to the yeah, man. It is good stuff. Big baller Mike. Good looking out. Yeah, absolutely. So it's just, you know, it's incredible to see what's happened. The thing is, I think what this has done is united people. You know, if you remember, after 9, 11, there was United, both sides. Everybody. I mean, just go to a gas station. The somber look on people's faces. But this shook me to the point of where, Jeff, I couldn't do the show on Wednesday. I was just too. I was too shooken up. I was too harsh. It was just too much. I couldn't. It was. It was a lot of stuff to reflect on and think about. I mean, we played Charlie Kirk, you know, we played his videos here all the time, you know, and. Yeah, and he was just a good dude, you know, he. He was so intelligent. He. His. His knowledge of scripture was incredible. Where he could just cite anything. Old Testament, New Testament. He. He knew exactly the Bible. You know, where it was in the Bible, the verse. He could cite it. And I was always amazed by the level of intelligence of this guy. And I was actually shocked. For some reason, I felt like he was. Even though I knew he's a young guy, 31 years old, 31 year, life stuffed out. Not to see your kids grow up, to see your kids, you know, these two young kids. And I think one of the things that really. I started watching this last night, but it got. It got too heavy and I couldn't finish. So I'm gonna put this up. This is Erica Kirk, and she's got an amazing message here. The fact that she showed so much poise and so much resolve and getting up and even only a couple days after this event, but she had this. Somebody clipped this message. I was watching it. It was too heavy, so I had to kind of turn it off and just couldn't send somebody going through this. But I'm gonna play this. I'm gonna put it full screen and. But I want to play her message to the world. Here we go.
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Let's put it up.
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The evil doers.
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Are we on a second. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. How do we put the video? Full screen.
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Husband's assassination.
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There you go.
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I got you. Gotcha. Okay, there we go. So here we go. Let's play it over again.
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The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. They should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before. You have no idea. You have no idea what you Just have unleashed across this entire country, this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry to everyone listening tonight across America. The movement my husband built will not die.
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It won't.
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I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. All of us will refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband's name. And I will make sure of.
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Will.
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Become stronger, bolder, louder and greater than ever.
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There it is. Yeah, there you have it.
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Man. Oh, man.
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So, yeah, it was, it was a powerful message. She spoke for quite a long time, but that, but she's. I think she's absolutely 100, right? And the hemorrhaging on the left of people leaving in droves, saying, like, it's the last straw. I can't have a party that celebrates death universally, has no tolerance. The party is supposed to be of tolerance, has zero tolerance, wants to snuff it out. And it is amazing that his organization was called Turning Point. And that Turning point happened on September 10th when he, when he died. I mean, weird that it was called Turning Point, but it was a major turning point. Mike has this comment too, and I. This is the shot heard around the world. And if you don't understand it, look into your history very much. Was the shot heard around the world, man. And, and it's just amazing. She will carry on Charlie's mantle. Absolutely. She'll carry it on. But, you know, she also invited people to the December gathering that they're going to have and she invited everybody to come. She invited everybody, you know, get involved in a church, you know, so the impact, you know, like somebody had written that. I wanted to play her video too, but just don't have the time. But she had talked about the fact that Charlie will be bigger in death than he was in life. Be having a long lasting impact. And this is, this is exactly, you know, where we, you know, I see these comments in here. I just have to say we don't have time to address them. Jeff, I'm sure you're seeing them too. We, we've already addressed them thousands of times. Won't get into it, but we will get into is. We will get into the, the drawing. So it's time to put the drawing forward, guys. We only have 10 people put in YETI if you want to win a badass YETI.
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10.
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We only have 10. It's kind of shocking, but type in Y E T I if you want to win A badass yeti. And we're gonna go ahead and do this.
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Let's play the song again. Play the song one more time. And we're. I'm gonna be posting these songs up on X as we post the winner as well, so everyone gets to see it. Plus, if you're subscribed to on the chain IO, the song is going in that email that goes out. So you get our the. You'll get audio link to the audio podcast, the YouTube video, all the different articles we've covered, all the different videos and then some because there's stuff that we don't even get into. And so if you're subscribed on the chain IO. In the meantime, enjoy this and then we'll get ready for the drawing for the badass Yeti. Number 532. This is Spirit Walker. Warm vigor.
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Let's do it.
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Are you ready.
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To walk into legend.
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With the blue tribe.
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Or vigor?
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Calls of clan Spirit walker.
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Born in.
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Shadow, forged in flame Word of the.
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Day Yeti.
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I walk the mountains ice and flame the wind itself repeats my name or vagaries steps unshaken the path I walk cannot be taken Spirit walker I roam the night stars above my guiding light Every step the earth does roar Legends live forever more Obsidian bold roast strength within what yeti's bows Drink it hot the fire flows yetiscoffee.com it grows so lift your voice the story sings Jeff and ship the tribe they bring but beware of Charles, collector of lore the yetis vanish he wins is.
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Born for battle made for a legend.
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Claim your.
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On the chain banger man. Banger.
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There you go.
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So fresh. That's awesome. It's amazing. New tune every single time. Incredible. Incredible, man. So let's go ahead and put it up on screen. Let me put the right screen on first of all. There we go. And here we go. Got 11. We're gonna go with 11. You got a great chance to win. Here we go, Bo. On the chain. Boom. The winner, winner, chicken dinner. The winning was man around. I had a feeling it was gonna be Charles too. I had. I had a gut feeling it was gonna be Charles. And damn Charles. Good for you, my man. You must have an army of yetis by now.
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Winningest man around. There you go.
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You know what that means, guys? Every time you win a yeti, you have to go purchase a yeti. That's what it is. A one to one deal. So you end up getting it a half price.
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That's right.
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New rule. If you lose, Charles has 49 yetis. So he has to go out and get 49.
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If you. If you lose.
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Charles, we. We already have your. I think we have your wallet address several times.
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So I don't know.
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But congrats, man. Every once in a while we will loosen. Like we don't have enough people in the drawing where you have to loosen the rules to say like, hey, otherwise, you know, people last 10 people that won, they're like, it won't be in the contest. So we have to do that. So. Omg. Congratulations. He's the winningest man, dude. The winningest man. Love it.
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Yeah.
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That's why I say Charles really be playing the lottery, man. This dude's. This kid's got luck coming out of his.
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We're all gonna give him money.
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Yeah, play some. Play something, dude. Beautiful. Congrats, Charles. Beautiful.
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No, we don't have. Is Charles X handle.
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Here's a random one. I got my seventh booster right after I finished crying. Rats.
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Charles trying to go back in history here. There we go.
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There we go. So he put. He put it back in there. He put it in there. So.
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Okay, good.
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Now we know we've. Gosh, we've. All you have to do is go on our stream and look for Charles and on. On the chain. You'll find it. It's not that hard to find. So it's incredibly.
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He might change his wallet. Maybe he wants a different wallet. Oh, X is grunge. 777. There we go.
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Grunge, baby. Hell yeah. Congratulations, Charles. Go Birds. All right.
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It ends. Starts in RG and ends in hvv.
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Indeed it does.
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Okay.
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Indeed it does. So we.
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Let me show. Let me show this badass yeti that you just won. There he is. Check this guy out. And orm beggar that one day we gave. Gave the wrong one away. We did the whole. And then I had a couple open. We gave the wrong one away.
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It happens.
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But. Yeah, but look at this guy, man. Look at the. Look at the detail right down to is the things he's.
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Utility belt there.
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Utility belt. And this guy's kick ass. Look at that. All right, all right. So now Charles, you're gonna get him. Gonna transfer this bad boy over. Let me move everything so I can transfer this guy.
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Transfer, baby. Let's do it. We go the transfer go.
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Let's get this transfer going.
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Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for showing up and thank you for the support.
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Get the Zaman wallet. All right. Scan, man. It's so great. With a QR code you just scan it, slide to accept. And it caused 0.000012 of an XRP to do this transaction.
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Beautiful. It's nothing.
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It's like. It's nothing.
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Mike is inviting Charles to Florida so they can go to the casino together. If you're taking someone with you, man, it better be Charlie, man, he's great.
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Question is ice or blackjack?
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By the way, that Bill's game was tremendous, man. I was so bummed. I was like, man, the defense isn't showing up. What's going on? That Turnaround, I mean, 250 yards in the fourth, you know, it's never been done in the NFL before. Two touchdowns, rushing. Also, what's funny, in all of Bill's history, Josh Allen became the. He became the 1 player on never played for the Bills with the most rushing yards. Not a running back quarterback. Most rushing yards. Amazing. So it was a tremendous game. They played the jets tomorrow at 1pm we'll see what happens there. And I would have said that they. I said even if the Bills lost, they would have been tied for first because the Patriots lost, the jets lost, and Miami lost. Miami got destroyed, but it would have been tied for first because you had four losers. But now they're in first place. I was weird to see the Chiefs go down. I think they'll be bouncing back this week, so we'll see what happens. I know Justin's in here. I don't know if he has any words on what happened with the Chiefs, but I was shocked to see them drop that game.
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Look at that. That's all the Patriots.
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Look at that.
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Pouring out onto the streets and over in England.
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It's beautiful, man. What a beautiful sight. And I'm happy to see this. I'm happy to see them standing up. But you know what? They're going to wake up tomorrow morning. They've got facial recogn cameras everywhere. And I would expect some people to be getting arrested. They just keep doubling down on stupid. This is what you want the left to do. You want them to keep going because, you know, people are like, oh, they should stop. No, no, no, please double down. This is the most glorious thing that's ever happened. The more dumb things they do just, you know, like the old saying goes, you never interrupt your enemy when they're in the process of destroying yourself. You're like, have at it. Do more of the same. I hope they keep it up here into the midterms. I hope they continue. The left worldwide continues or stupidity. All they're doing is Igniting the fire in people. At some point you either it's either comes the revolution or it becomes mediocrity. You either get conquered or you stand up. And so why isn't any country able to preserve its nationality? You've seen Poland step up. You've seen Hungary, they want it to remain Hungarian. They want you to assimilate, learn a language. They want you to assimilate, learn Polish. They want to keep it polished. But it seems like there's an all out attack anytime it comes to white people can't preserve their, their, their thousands of years of, of, you know, that's what Europe was. I mean, Europe, that's where, that's where the white people are there in Europe. Yeah. They ended up, you know, in Australia and New Zealand and other parts of the world, you know, but this is the whole thing is that, you know, America's more of a melting pot. But to preserve European culture. And I go to France because I want to experience French culture. I go to Spain because I want to experience, experience Spanish culture. I don't want Spain to turn into something where it's look resembles the US or England or some other, you know, some other country. I want to under. I want to have paella. I want to have, I want to experience like what it, what it feels like to be there. And this is where you got to preserve that. You got to look out after that in Europe. It's something that has to be done. So. Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden singing the national anthem at the Steelers game. Oh, that's cool. I saw them so many times. Iron Maiden back in the day. Bruce Dickinson. Beautiful. That wasn't, that wasn't that the, the name of the, the more cowbell guy too, but Brisbane, his name, the fable, you know, the. He was the Bruce Dickinson as well. That ought to be interesting to see. I gotta see that. I gotta play a clip of that. Wow. Interesting. Yahweh's made some great money, some great money selling his cousin. We haven't done the Yowies yet. We have the Yowies. We will release them at some point.
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But got a bunch of things to release.
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We have the always, but we got some things to put out. Just got sidetracked by some other things, but we will get back on track. But guys, thank you for all the support today. You know, listen, keep the peace, keep your voice loud. Don't stop talking, you know, before what you believe in and understand that the other side thinks differently and it's okay. You know, we don't want to Demonize the other side.
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We're not.
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Ban them. No, we're not banning them. Give them the platform. Give them the free speech to say what they want to say, you know, and you may not embrace it, but that's what free speech is. It's what. It's the speech you agree with and the speech you don't agree with. And that's what's happening in Great Britain right now is that the people who, I mean, the guys are getting. Guy got arrested because he called somebody a Muppet and another guy threatened. He called the cop a Muppet and he was going to. If you say that one more time, I'm going to arrest you for calling somebody a Muppet. I mean, this is insane. This is like if you said this, Jeff, if you were saying this, like, if we had like speculated, like, well, in the future you probably call someone a Muppet and get arrested. You're like, come on, dude, that's. That's never gonna happen, you know, but it will. And it has. You call them a Muppet. I wish I had that video. Call them a Muppet. I will arrest you. People being arrested for speak in their mind. And then you have two tier cure Starmer over there saying, oh, we have, we believe in free speech. Really? And then he put out a, a post about Charlie Kirk and he got decimated talking about free speech and how important it is. Oh my God, he got destroyed. They have people that their job is to go on social media and see if you posted something that's opposing, right? If you can't, if we lose the discourse and the free speech and we're going to censor everything, man, you can't control that. You're just blowing people up. You're blowing your whole country up. You got to be able to have free speech whether you like it or not. And whether people want to celebrate Charlie's Kirk. It's their right. It's their free speech. You got to let them do it. You don't have to agree with it. But, you know, if you don't want to listen to someone turn it off, stop following somebody. There's ways to mitigate that, but the wrong way is by violence. Violence is the wrong way. You got to do it with civil discourse. And that's one of the things Charlie stood for. And I saw Ben Shapiro. Maybe I'll play that tomorrow night. Ben Shapiro had a great. He had a great. And again, I don't always agree with Ben Shapiro. Some of the stuff that he stands for and some of the takes he's had. But, but, but I liked what he said that we're going to continue. He used to do college campuses. He's going to start doing it again. And Ben Shapiro is very good. Remember, I think he might have been the first one to start that he would. He wasn't like on college campuses where they had a 10 outside. He was in a controlled scenario where they like on a stage and stuff. But Ben Shapiro was doing that 10, 12, 15 years ago. And he says he's going to start doing it again. So I, I applaud that. And I love what Erica, you know, Kirk said, the widow. And she's going to stand up. They're gonna, they're gonna go on. Turning Point's gonna get bigger and bigger. It's going to continue to attract the, the most positive people. It's going to continue to. You know, it's amazing all the young people who embrace not only conservatism but Christianity as well. It's a beautiful message. You know, it's a message of, of peace and love and, and, and, you know, being, accepting. So Charlie's voice will live on and other people will step up. That's how it always happened throughout time. You're not replacing somebody, but some people will rise and they will step up. And I think Eric is going to be one of them that probably we'll be seeing a lot of. And she'll be the voice and the, the face of Turning Point. Although she may not be always on camera every day, but she's going to be somebody who's going to be. I mean, the, the, the, the way in which she spoke, you know, losing everything, losing her husband, you know, losing the father for her two young kids, man, the way she spoke, she's got fire in the belly and fire in the belly goes a lot further. So thank you, guys. Ray Run says it beautifully. Thank you and good night.
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Good night, show brothers.
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I intended my Iron Man's World slavery tour and Kimbera, absolutely first class. They're a great band, man. They really put on a great show. Saw them early days. Saw them like, you know, mid career. They're fantastic. Just got the Eddie on XRP Cafe. Thank you. Thank you for playing, man. Build that army, dude. Build that army. And that's all I have to say. Jeff, you want to say anything before.
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We get out of here? Looking forward to seeing everybody tomorrow night. We'll talk a little bit about flair as well. Got a bunch of things to cover for tomorrow night. Eastern standard time only here on the chain. No place else. No place else.
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No place else. You're gonna get this kind of. This kind of discord, you know, here, where we're going to be talking about all things, you know, crypto, but also geopolitics. It's all connected. It's one of the rare shows out there. We get to do this and. Yeah. Come on back, guys. That's all we have. See you guys on the next one. See you tomorrow night. Chip and Jeff out.
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Episode: Ripple / XRP / Swell & The Global Aftershock of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
Date: September 13, 2025
Hosts: Jeff and Chip
This episode of "On The Chain" centers on two major storylines: updates and innovations in the Ripple/XRP ecosystem—including the return of Ripple Swell to New York City, the expansion of XRPL, and developing real-world utility—and an in-depth, emotional discussion about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, its seismic impact on free speech, politics, crypto culture, and a world wrestling with divisiveness. The hosts offer news, opinions, and heartfelt tributes, linking crypto developments to wider global trends and the fight for civil liberties.
“Free speech is the speech you agree with, the speech you don’t agree with... that’s what free speech is.” – Chip (03:41)
“XRPL's multipurpose token is a breakthrough so you can embed legally relevant metadata...directly on chain. This is cool.” – Chip (07:14)
“When the conversation stops, that's when we're in trouble... If you choose to leave, great... It’s all connected.” – Chip (29:57)
“If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before. You have no idea...the fire that you have ignited within this wife... The movement my husband built will not die.” – Erica Kirk (76:03)
“You want to honor Charlie Kirk? You go and speak up. You speak louder... Now is the turning point.” – Tommy Robinson (69:42)
This episode goes beyond reporting:
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