Ripple’s Gamble | Wall Street in Panic: Crypto Demands Access

Summary

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On The Chain: Ripple’s Gamble | Wall Street in Panic: Crypto Demands Access ([October 16, 2025])

Hosts: Jeff & Chip
Special Focus: Brad Garlinghouse (CEO, Ripple) at DC FinTech 2025
Episode Theme:
A spirited deep-dive into Ripple’s bold strategies, the shifting regulatory environment for crypto, Wall Street’s reaction to digital assets’ surge in legitimacy, and the broader transformation of global finance. The episode pivots around Brad Garlinghouse’s headline appearance in DC, the mounting pressure for equitable crypto regulation, and the evolving political and financial landscapes.

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Episode Overview

The hosts dissect Ripple’s aggressive moves in the fintech space, spotlighting how crypto is demanding access—not permission—from traditional financial institutions and regulators. The conversation is anchored by new political realities post-election, Ripple’s legal journey, and the consequential influence of lobbyist groups like Fair Shake. The show also touches on broader culture and news, including commentary on U.S. politics and international issues, but remains centered on blockchain, crypto policy, and Ripple’s future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ripple’s Bold Stance and Industry Impact

• Brad Garlinghouse’s appearance at DC FinTech 2025 was framed as a watershed moment: Ripple is “not asking for permission anymore. It’s demanding equal access.” (Jeff, 00:02)
• Crypto has transitioned from an underdog position to influencing national policy debates, demanding a “level playing field” with Wall Street and traditional banking.

“There’s a new sheriff in the White House and things are all going to be different because what’s going away is the central banks. Everybody’s going to be running scared…”
—Chip (02:50)

2. New Political Climate for Crypto

• Both hosts discuss the impact of a new, more pro-crypto White House and its effect on market optimism and regulatory clarity.
• There’s acknowledgment that Democrats have traditionally been more anti-crypto, with exceptions emerging as some bipartisan momentum builds.

“This is a topic which never should have been partisan… it’s almost like saying one side’s pro-email and the other side’s anti-email.”
—Brad Garlinghouse (08:27)

• The Clarity Act, a pro-crypto Congressional effort, is noted for bipartisan support: “passed the House with like 78 Dems coming over to support a Republican bill." (Brad Garlinghouse, 06:53)

3. Ripple’s Legal Battle and the Quest for Clarity

• Much is made of how Ripple’s lawsuit with the SEC “elevated Ripple’s position” in D.C. political circles.

“We had to get clarity through $150 million lawsuit and a federal judge. But we think the whole industry should have that same clarity. And so we’ve been fighting for that and will continue to do so.”
—Brad Garlinghouse (07:31)

• Ongoing ambiguity in law is seen as both a threat and an opportunity; new laws—not just regulatory agency postures—are required for substantive change.

4. Lobbying, PACs & Political Money

• Discussion of pro-crypto PACs like Fair Shake:
  • Ripple supported Fair Shake “from the very beginning,” but the group’s bipartisan claims are disputed by the hosts: “80% of the money was given to Democrats who aren’t even pro-crypto.” (Chip, 10:43)
  • The episode calls out the reality of political donations, questioning their true motives and effectiveness.

“Fair Shake only gave Democrats a Fair Shake. The majority, 80% of the money was given to Democrats who aren’t even pro-crypto.”
—Chip (10:43)

5. Ripple’s Mergers & Acquisitions: Building the Future

• Ripple's strategy is to “play offense” in this new regulatory tailwind:
  • Recent major acquisitions: Hidden Road (prime broker) for $1.25B and Rail (enterprise stablecoin company) for $200M.
  • Ripple is expanding aggressively into payments, custody, and stablecoins.

“Ripple’s thesis has been, okay, now is a time to really be aggressive about growth and that is both organic growth and continuing to build…We’re in the payments business, leveraging core technologies around blockchain and the XRP Ledger… we’re going to continue to play offense.”
—Brad Garlinghouse (23:27)

6. Market Structure, Commodities vs. Securities

• Garlinghouse tactically sidesteps defining what makes a digital asset a security or commodity, emphasizing court victories and legal clarity over philosophical debate.

“I’m gonna do everything I can to dodge that question up here… For Ripple, the one thing we will be adamant and absolute about is whatever is these draft comments that I see… we already won a court case by a federal judge and if what you’re writing gives the SEC an opportunity to bring another lawsuit against us, okay, we can’t support that.”
—Brad Garlinghouse (20:49)

7. Infrastructure Access, Wall Street, and the Fed

• Ongoing systemic barriers: Even as some agencies give “green lights,” groups like the Fed remain skeptical.
• “There should be a level playing field. …We should have the same access to infrastructure like a Fed master account.” (25:48)
• Garlinghouse shares how he was personally “debanked” by Citibank during tougher regulatory years, highlighting lingering institutional challenges.

8. Ripple’s Vision: Multi-Chain World & Open Source

• Rejection of “one token to rule them all”; instead, sees future as multi-chain, multi-token—analogous to browsers or search engines (“there wasn’t one…”).

“There’s scores if not 100 other CEOs building around the XRP ecosystem. …We do need to educate that in a number of other tokens where there is a very distributed, very open source community. Ripple does not control XRP."
—Brad Garlinghouse (19:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Global Finance Disrupted:
  “Shaking the foundation of traditional finance. Shaking it up…Crypto isn’t asking for permission anymore. It’s demanding equal access. And Wall Street’s not ready for what…”
  —Jeff (00:02)

• Bipartisan Optimism (Despite Odds):
  “I remain optimistic. The industry needs what Ripple has already achieved, which is clarity…We think the whole industry should have that same clarity.”
  —Brad Garlinghouse (06:53)

• On Industry Tribalism:
  “Those that I think approach it as there is somehow one token to rule them all. Like that's not going to be the future…”
  —Brad Garlinghouse (21:57)

• On Open Source Governance:
  “Ripple does not control XRP. It is open source. There have been amendments passed to the XRP open source technology that we opposed. We were against them and they still passed. That’s okay.”
  —Brad Garlinghouse (19:58)

• On Political Donations:
  “They padded him $10 million because he was pro-crypto. What? By the way, we found one thing that he said that sounded semi-pro crypto…”
  —Chip (12:19)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:02 — Episode kicks off: Ripple’s gamble, Wall Street in panic, crypto’s new assertiveness
• 06:53 — Garlinghouse discusses Ripple’s elevated political role post-lawsuit, the Clarity Act, and bipartisan progress
• 10:35 — Fair Shake PAC funding breakdown and the realities of political lobbying
• 19:09 — Defining securities & commodities in the context of Ripple and XRP
• 23:27 — Ripple’s acquisition strategy and the impact of recent major deals
• 25:48 — Equal access, barriers for crypto at the Fed and de-banking experiences
• 27:52 — Shifting government tailwinds and conversations with formerly skeptical banks
• Throughout: Sharp critiques of regulators (esp. Gensler’s SEC), ripple effects of new political leadership

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Overall Tone and Style

The hosts blend sharp analysis with humor and irreverence, often diving into the “badassery” that defines their community. There’s an undercurrent of optimism for crypto, skepticism toward entrenched financial and regulatory forces, and candid critique of politicians and agencies. Their style is conversational, sometimes playful, but rooted in substantive insights about the blockchain industry and U.S. policy-making.

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Episode Takeaways

• Ripple is seizing the current political climate to consolidate its dominance in crypto payments and infrastructure.
• The political fight for regulatory clarity continues, with Ripple playing a central role.
• Pro-crypto lobbying is nuanced and not as bipartisan as headlines suggest.
• The mainstreaming of digital assets is eroding Wall Street's exclusive control, with institutional doors creaking open under pressure.
• Ripple envisions a multi-chain, multi-asset ecosystem—decidedly not “one token to rule them all.”
• Despite past headwinds, the industry is entering a phase of cautious optimism and strategic aggression.

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Recommended segments:

• Brad Garlinghouse on DC politics and Ripple’s lawsuit – (06:53–08:46)
• On Fair Shake and lobbying realities – (10:35–12:33)
• Acquisitions & M&A discussion – (22:26–24:46)
• Market structure, commodities v. securities riff – (18:48–21:57)

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If you’re looking to understand how Ripple is leveraging new regulatory clarity, influencing U.S. politics, and what this means for the future of digital assets on Wall Street and beyond, this episode is a must-listen (or read)!

Transcript

[Jeff]

Welcome to on the Chain. This is Jeff here with co host Chip. What is going on? Chip, what's going on? Everybody out there in the on the Chain badassery world, you know who you are. You know who you are because you are bad ass one. Badassery. That's right. So today, and we got. We always have a bunch of things to talk about. Even when it seems there is no news, there's always news. Ripple's big gamble. Going to talk about that. What does that exactly mean? And is Wall street in meltdown mode? Are they in panic mode? Crypto wants in. Wall street might not want to let them in. So we got to figure out what that's all about. We're going to dive into Ripple's bold move. Shaking the foundation of traditional finance. Shaking it up. Gotta love that Brad Garland house took center Stage at the DC FinTech and made one thing clear. Crypto isn't asking for permission anymore. That's right. It's demanding equal access. And Wall Street's not ready for what? You guys know that. From policy to panic, innovation to rebellion, this is the turning point for digital assets and global finance. Global. You like that? Global finance.

[Chip]

I like global.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chip]

Better than global.

[Jeff]

Global doesn't work.

[Chip]

Let's go. Welcome to on the Chain. Welcome everybody. Come and tell us where you're coming in from. Probably people are late because they're expected to get late.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chip]

Turning over a newly.

[Jeff]

Mixing it up.

[Chip]

Starting on. Starting on time for once. How about that? How about that or something.

[Jeff]

We're turning over a new leaf for 2026.

[Chip]

How fantastic is this? Thomas Brennan says, I pray Ripple goes to the moon. Just worried about the genius act and if any social engineering will be coming next once we no longer have cash. That seems the way the globalists are pushing things. Well, if you haven't noticed, there's a new sheriff in the White House and ain't gonna happen. Okay. Now if the, if the auto pen was still in the White House, yeah, all bets are off. But you got a real leader. I just, I marvel at. When Trump showed up in Egypt, he stood there for like an hour and a half while everybody wanted to take their photo with them. Everybody in the Arab world wanted their photo taken with President Trump. Okay. They love him. They love him. And he saw the Pakistani president who nominated him for a. The Nobel Peace Prize. He saw the Argentinian president also. I mean, it's, it's remarkable to see. And one of the things the Pakistani president credited Trump with was ending the conflict. Well, we know India and Pakistan have been feuding forever, but again, he stopped maybe. I think it's seven or eight conflicts in nine months, ten months since.

[Jeff]

Amazing, right?

[Chip]

It's incredible, Jeff. And there's a new sheriff in town and things are all going to be different because what's going away is the central banks. Everybody's going to be running scared. You're going to try to run all kinds of false flags and everything, but they just end up on the losing side of it. And I love, I really love these judges who constantly are trying to shut things down. You're A, waving the flag. So we know who you are, we know who you are taking notes and B, you. All you're doing is setting a precedent because it gets overturned. And now they just, they're trying to slow things down, but they just can't. There's so much winning going on, it's hard to even understand the amount of winning that's happening right now. I'm not worried about the genius act at all because I don't think. I think there's momentum and I think there's enough bipartisan. That's one thing they. That there is some agreement on. Although the Democrats are highly. Jeff, Highly anti crypto still, let's not lose sight of the fact that they're still pretty anti crypto.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's right. They are anti crypto. And by the way, this is just in brand new notice right here. Looks like December is going to be the month that we are going to have. Let me make sure that that was yo December. We're gonna have Michael Carbonera on in December. We're gonna have him here on the, in the podcast. I'm on the podcast, which will be great. So we're going to work out timing for that. So we're gonna have a lot of time to. To promote, which is outstanding. Just got notification, so that's a big deal. Michael Carbonaro, we covered that last time. He's actually going to be running against Debbie Wasserman Schultz in Broward county to unseed a blood rash to unseat her. We need some new new blood in. In Congress down in Broward County. That's what we need.

[Chip]

Yeah. And she's looking so beat up these days. My God. It's just absolutely insanely. She's looking really, really rough. Look at that celebration coming in late today. Whoa. Hey now. Hey now.

[Jeff]

Looks it looks like the notifications finally decided to go out. I didn't get one because people are. People are starting to join In.

[Chip]

I got Zilchis. Nothing. No, nothing.

[Jeff]

Slow roll.

[Chip]

Nothing on my phone at all. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Brad Garlinghouse. He was at the the Policy, Innovation and Future of Global Fintech at DC FinTech 2025. That was what he was there. It's long. I don't know if they'll get through all of it, but we'll play a good portion of it and then we'll gonna go ahead and roll the video for the tune and, and then sponsorship and then we'll talk about badassery. Coffee in full effect, fully converted, all ready to go. If you guys have one of those old bags, I'd keep it. It's a collector's item.

[Jeff]

That's right. I already threw it in the garbage. Too late.

[Chip]

Nobody's a. Hey, hey. YouTube does that. YouTube is weird, weird, weird. Let's do, let's listen to this a little bit, go through it. It's pretty long. We're not going to listen to the whole thing. Or maybe we will. I don't know. We'll see.

[Interviewer]

I'm very excited for this conversation. Brad Garlinghouse, CEO of Ripple, an absolute powerhouse, I think both in the digital asset space and now in the Washington D.C. space as well.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

A lot has changed. And one year ago I was on this stage and I was thinking about how much has changed even in that year. And it's profound.

[Interviewer]

I mean, that, that that's what happens when a new administration comes into town, particularly one that had such a stark difference.

[Chip]

No surprise Brad's not wearing his MAGA hat though. Would you A little bit surprised by that, Jeff?

[Jeff]

Trump, he should be wearing it.

[Chip]

Trump right about everything. Trump was right about everything. Or make America great again. It's like, you know, he could have put like a little red tie or something on a little, a little nod.

[Interviewer]

Here and there in crypto. I do want to start, though, as a Capitol Hill reporter back a little bit with, with market structure. Obviously you were listening with the last panel and kind of their assessment on things kind of sounds like this might be able to get done. Perhaps not this year, but I'm kind of curious what you've been hearing because Ripple again has become such a major player, I think, in politics on the Hill. What is your read of the tea leaves?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Well, I think one of the outcomes of having been the tip of the spear in the Biden administration's attack on crypto through the SEC is it kind of elevated Ripple's position. Even a year ago, State, you know, sitting on this different building. But stage, you know, the SEC at that time was appealing the loss and, you know, we were kind of continuing down this journey of the attack on crypto. And so we and many others in the industry, I always got more active in Washington and it's, you know, I think profound to have such a pro crypto Congress. The Clarity act passed the house with like 78 by 78 Dems coming over to support a Republican bill, which I think is indicative of the desire for these technologies to be embraced. Ripple certainly will continue to be active. I don't know how to handicap the Senate. What's going on in the Senate with the Clarity, the version of the Clarity act on the Senate side. I listened to some of the earlier panels with interest on that. It's always hard to know, particularly during a government shutdown like how that's going to play out. But look, I remain optimistic. The industry needs what Ripple has already achieved, which is clarity. And we had to get clarity through $150 million lawsuit and a federal judge. But we think the whole industry should have that same clarity. And so we've been fighting for that and we'll continue to do so.

[Interviewer]

Do you think when you talk with some of your folks on the Hill, does it seem like things are truly at the standstill that they are, or is there still, do you still sense that there is bipartisan momentum to get this done?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I think there's some momentum. You know, I think getting anything done in Washington these days is always a little tricky. But this is a topic which never should have been partisan in my opinion. Like, it's almost like saying one side's pro email and other side's anti email or, you know, one's pro.

[Chip]

Thanks for. Thanks for showing a ridiculous. How ridiculous it can get. One side is pro eating, the other is like we never eat. One side is pro starvation. We're up for starvation. What I what I love the best. One of the best things Trump ever did was Beverly said. He floated this. The says we're going to have to take guns away from the trans genders and maybe the LGBTQ community. So now you're, now you're going to force them to then, you know, start lobbying for guns. We guns right. Guns gun rights for. He just floats those things that are so ridiculous unconstitutional just to just to graz them. We're for food. We're. We're not for eating, starving. We're for fasting.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

HTTP and anti. It's like these are technologies we shouldn't. I think, think about those in A partisan way. Almost as Brent McIntosh said the last panel, you know, how are these technologies used is way more important. And I think sometimes we lose the plot and people get too caught up in, you know, some of the politics of it. But look, I'm still hopeful when you see that kind of bipartisan support in the House. And you know, certainly again you're seeing leadership from Senator also Brooke, Senator Gallego on the, on the Dem side and you're certainly seeing tons of leadership on the right. I still think there's a chance that.

[Interviewer]

That happens this year and kind of staying in the politics realm for, for just a minute here. Obviously, Ripple is part of, of a large crypto group that has been playing a really key part in elections. I mean, I think last year it was $200 million spent in races across the country. Country currently has a war chest of I think 141 million. The last time I saw. What is the strategy Fair Shake terms? Fair Shake, Yes.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

So, well, I mean, Ripple has supported Fair Shake from the very beginning. And again, I highlight the name like the industry wants a Fair Shake.

[Chip]

Like they do want a Fair Shake. But as you heard right here on the chain, Fair Shake is a partisan, crappy lobbyist group. There's a better one that came out and the name eludes me now, but Fair Shake only gave Democrats a Fair shake. The majority, 80% of the money was vote was given to Democrats who aren't even pro crypto. So I'm surprised she hasn't done her homework. So she's going to ask him these softball, these ridiculous questions like, well, Fair Shake what I give a Fair Shake. Okay, it wasn't a Fair Shake. Partisan, crappy. First of all, the guy that runs it, Jeff, is Schumer's ex, one of, one of the guys who used to work with Schumer and work for all these nut jobs. And then it's I try to, we try to, you know, ask questions. I try to. I reached out to them, I pinged them on, on the socials, on X and got nowhere. Like said, hey, why don't you answer this question? They're not interested in answering questions. Everybody that works there is lefties. But they're Fair Shake. Of course. Right, but, but the, the Winkle Boss twins did a lot more that lobby and team, the one that they were doing, the one that also helped out Deaton too, there's some better ones that are coming and I just don't think Fair Sheik's going to get the Fair Shake they did got last time. But yes, there's no. Jeff, remember when they, when they. Who was the candidate? And. And it was Shifty Shift. They gave him $10 million. And do you remember who he's running against?

[Jeff]

For.

[Chip]

For. It's the. It's the new woman who's running for governor now. The crazy one. What's her name?

[Jeff]

Oh, Katie Porter.

[Chip]

Katie Porter was who. He never had any problem. He's. He had recognition. He had been in the house for 22, 23 years.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

Shifty Shift wasn't going anywhere, but they padded him 10 million because he was pro crypto. What? By the way, we found one thing that he said that sounded semi pro crypto that was said the month before.

[Jeff]

One thing that was. Was such. It just shows you, you know, the sham of how they actually move money around through some of the lobbyist groups. So I, you know, could you say that they ran, you know, Kathy Porter specifically so they could give him $10 million? You know, did. Did somebody know that that is, you know, that was going to happen specifically? I mean, maybe not. You know, maybe they saw how crazy she was and they're like, holy crap, we need to get some money somewhere. And so they look for every potential lobby, you know, lobby, lobby group and pack that was out there. Who knows?

[Chip]

I mean, there's new videos that come out all the time. And she was just caught the other day saying that she's not sure that all the videos that could come out have come out yet. So at some point, the Democrats throw you overboard. All of a sudden they're like, okay, she's gone. She's gone. And they do it secretly. They don't do it. They never. Oh, no, we're 100. But behind the scenes, they're basically launching all the bombs that take her out. Like, they're probably the ones that are. Who's surfacing the videos. You remember when the aid got caught in the back and she's like, you're in my effing shot. Get out of my shot. She didn't even seems. She didn't even see. Oh, I'm so sorry. She's so used to it. She goes, oh, the reason I was there is because I wanted to tell you about. She didn't even. The other person. Oh, God, like, would have been embarrassed. They would have been like, she. This woman has heard it so many times. She knew.

[Jeff]

She's a nut job.

[Chip]

She's like this. Nothing new. Right?

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chip]

I love this. I hope she goes far because she is an absolute nut.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Shouldn't be as, you know, polarizing. And I do think under the Gensler sec, the industry was attacked. There wasn't any effort to provide clear rules of the road. And so what we have been asking for are those clear rules.

[Chip]

Well, yes and no. You're never going to get clear rules from an agency that only. Basically the responsibility is enforcing the rules and the rules aren't clear. It's Congress's job to do that. It's nothing to do with the sec because this is the part that bothers me. The new SEC is like, oh, we're pro crypto. Okay, well, where is all the pro crypto language? It's great that you're pro crypto, but you're doing the same thing that Gensler did, just the opposite way. So now everyone loves it, right? You're making a. Pulling rules out of space, out of, you know, out of your ass somewhere, and now everything's great. No, no, write the clear rules. Make sure that they make sense. Then you can be pro crypto. But them having these. I mean, what is crypto mom? Going around to different states, visiting with people. She's a commissioner. She votes on stuff. She's not even the SEC chair. What is she doing? It makes zero sense to me, Jeff. I don't understand it.

[Jeff]

Vying for a position maybe. I don't know.

[Chip]

Well, she's been over two. She's been basically passed by twice. She didn't become chair again, so became chair. And she wasn't even the interim chair. Somebody, somebody somewhere does not care for her. I don't know why she keeps getting the short end of the stick. Because she has been the. The one voice that has been pro crypto and has gone against, you know, the chair. So I don't know. It's a weird thing.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I think Fair Shake, I mean, they should speak on their behalf. I'm not on the board or, you know, an operator within Fair Shake, but suffice it to say they're continuing to execute the strategy that played out under the last election, which is we want to support pro crypto candidates on the left and the right. I mean, ironically, the. Despite this topic being, you know, somewhat right leaning, the last election Fair Shake supported more Dem candidates than it did our candidates. And I.

[Chip]

Nice, nice way to call it out. Of course they did. Now he's. He didn't say they gave him more money. He said they supported him. Nice. Very clever, Brad Garlinghouse.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

That's actually a healthy thing because again, this shouldn't have ever been, in my judgment, bipartisan. I think the Biden administration kind of made it partisan in a way that isn't good for the United States. If we want to be a leader in technologies that are redefining how infrastructure works around the globe. I agreed with Caitlin Long on the last panel. Like, this is very global. The US leaned into that in the late 90s with the Internet. We've leaned out in blockchain. It doesn't make sense to me, but I think this administration obviously shifted that things like Fair Shake are shifting that. And I think Fair Shake was incredibly Shake it up. And we have, you know, a very pro crypto Congress and we hope, hope to see the Clarity act get. Get moved forward.

[Interviewer]

Absolutely.

[Jeff]

Shake it up.

[Interviewer]

I guess I just do wonder because it does seem like on Capitol Hill, obviously a lot of finger pointing. You know, a number of folks are pointing the fingers at Democrats after this draft was leaked saying this is a step too far. They really is pro crypto as they seem. Does that mean that you're kind of maybe less inclined to support Dems, or does that mean even more support for Democratic candidates, especially those who have shown an interest in promoting crypto?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I really, I'm not just saying I'm sitting in Washington on a stage in front of. I'm sure, I don't think about it as are we supporting Dems, Republicans. I think about as we're supporting pro crypto, pro innovation candidates who want to see these technologies as they are around the globe. I mean, the United States is not leading in this, and there is an opportunity for the United States to lead. So I don't think about it as, you know, should it lean more R or more D? I think about it as keep leaning into pro crypto candidates and educate both existing sitting congressional leaders and a next generation of congressional leaders. I mean, look, the reality is there is clearly a segmentation of age around all things crypto and blockchain. And there's no doubt in my mind that over an arc of time, the US Will get this right. It's unfortunate that under the kind of Gensler regime, I think we slowed things down and it made it very difficult. We pushed things offshore where ironically, it's less regulated and there's fewer consumer protections. It just makes no sense.

[Interviewer]

And of course, when it comes to sort of the meat of this law.

[Jeff]

What we're trying to said like a true conservative part of it.

[Chip]

There you go. Right. All right, Mag. All the way. Exactly. Well, it's great the way he's positioning. It may be better than you or I would, but that's why he's running Ripple and we're not. So there you go.

[Interviewer]

What is a security? What is a commodity? Of course, as you mentioned, you went through a $150 million lawsuit to get some of that clarity for Ripple. But I wondered, as you look at the market, I mean, are there things that should be a security? Like how do you sort of define what, what Ripple's product is and why it's not a security versus other products? Is anything a security?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Well, so I think to some degree the whole lawsuit for Ripple was about what is Ripple, which is a privately funded company that raised venture capital and issued stock associated with that. Those are securities. What is xrp, which is a technology, an open source technology that is kind of native to our products. We use XRP in our product stack. But there are scores of other companies building in and around the XRP ecosystem. You know, people will say things like, well, XRP has a CEO. And I'm like, who is it? Ripple has a CEO?

[Jeff]

That's me.

[Chip]

No, it's Daniel from Casino Coin. He's the self proclaimed. He's the self proclaimed. He goes, I am the CEO of the xrpl. And he does no one else. But half the people miss it. So obvious, clearly, Daniel.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

So there's scores if not 100 other CEOs building around the XRP ecosystem. And I think that's a, when I hear people say that, I think, okay, they're not educated about what's going on. And so that's, we need to educate people. We do need to educate that in a number of other tokens where there is a very distributed, very open source community. You know, people don't understand. Ripple does not control xrp. It is open source. There have been amendments passed to the XRP open source technology that we opposed. We were against them and they still passed. That's okay. That's open source technology. There's other things we have championed that have passed, but it takes 80% of the community approving those amendments, which Ripple doesn't have control of that.

[Interviewer]

And so I mean, if you were to define kind of what's a commodity versus a security, how would you do that?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Yeah, I'm going to do everything I can to dodge that question up here.

[Chip]

Well said.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I mean, look, there is language that has been proposed. I happen to think that there's parts of the Clarity act and pass the House that are quite constructive towards that clarity. I think some of the things that have been circulated, I'm like, okay, I don't Actually get how that. Well, look, for Ripple, the one thing we will be adamant and absolute about is whatever is these draft comments that I see. It's like, well, we already won a court case by a federal judge and if what you're writing gives the SEC an opportunity to bring another lawsuit against us, okay, we can't support that. You can't take us back. And look, I think the industry needs what Ripple has already achieved and what Ripple has done. And we've invested literally billions of dollars in the crypto industry broadly and tried to be a champion of the industry. We fought the SEC as a champion of the industry and I think that, that we will continue to support it on a multi chain basis. Those that I think approach it as there is somehow one token to rule them all. Like that's not going to be the.

[Jeff]

Future of it has to be one token to rule them all.

[Chip]

Yeah, that was a shot across the bottom of Bitcoin, wasn't it?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Of crypto and blockchain.

[Chip]

Well, tribalism in general.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

In the same way there wasn't one browser or one search engine or one auction website or. I'm thinking back to when I got involved in technology and late 90s.

[Interviewer]

Kind of feel like there's one now though. But, but.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Well, I don't follow that category.

[Interviewer]

So mergers and acquisitions. I want to ask as Ripple has a number of examples of companies that they have acquired in the stablecoin realm, in the sort of infrastructure realm. What is sort of the plan here? What's the thought process? What's the end goal?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Partly because of the shift, I think people still underestimate us as the largest economy in the world, went from very strong headwinds to pretty strong tailwinds. Now we're still figuring out as an industry, what is that, what are those tailwinds mean in the United States? And again having the chief legal officer from Citibank, you know, as an example of that shift. And I think he even talked about how it was very, very hard for them to engage this industry. This has been publicly reported, but I personally was debanked by Citibank during the last four years and I think, you know, happily we're past that.

[Jeff]

But I, I, yeah, there's so many. He got debanked. I wonder.

[Chip]

Crypto CEOs were, yeah, talked about that, but not as much as after Gensler was gone.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I think underestimate the, the shift in those headwinds and tailwinds. And Ripple's thesis has been, okay, now is a time to really be aggressive about Growth and that is both organic growth and continuing to build. We're in the payments business, leveraging core technologies around blockchain and the XRP ledger around payments. We're in the custody business. We're in the stablecoin business. And then earlier this year, to your point, around mergers and acquisitions, we spent 1.25 billion to buy Hidden Road, a prime broker, frankly the largest non bank prime broker out there where you bought for $200 million, excuse me, a stablecoin company called Rail, which was one of the leading stablecoin companies for the enterprise. So corporate treasury looking to use stablecoins to solve some of their internal movement of money. And that has been a great acquisition for us.

[Chip]

Sounds very familiar, doesn't it Jeff?

[Jeff]

It really does.

[Chip]

That Rails sounds very familiar to something. We it's an idea we had a few years ago. We are that close.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

So we're going to continue to play offense. We I hope I have some more news on that very, very soon and we think now is the time to.

[Chip]

Invest and Sounds like another acquisition's coming.

[Jeff]

Yeah, a big one. That's amazing. I like how he's talking about these acquisitions. Like, yeah, we picked up this one for 1 billion. We got this one for 250. It's like monopoly money that just. Yes, he's just so nonchalant about a.

[Chip]

Lot of money in the bank there.

[Jeff]

So it's not a big deal sitting on lots. Exactly.

[Chip]

So we'll see what the next big one is.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

So we're going to continue to play offense. We I hope I have some more news on that very, very soon. And we think now is the time to invest. And you know that partly because of that macro shift in government policy for the United States.

[Chip]

Interesting.

[Interviewer]

And when it comes to government policy right now, I know we touched on this a little bit the last panel that there seem to be certain agencies that are kind of giving the green light full speed ahead, but there are groups like the Fed that are maybe a little bit more tentative and I'm wondering kind of what your experience has been so far. Do you think that things are going to change when we finally get open a few more openings on the Fed? What are your expectations? What where are we at now? What are your expectations for the next few years?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

So I have two thoughts about that. You know, one, and as much as I have enjoyed some of the panels here today, one of the things I would ask everyone to do, both reporters and otherwise, is to hold traditional finance accountable for. Yes, I agree the crypto industry should be held to the same standard around AML KYC compliance. Yes, yes, yes. And we should have the same access to infrastructure like a Fed master account. You can't say one and then combat the other. Like that's disingenuous and it just, it's hypocritical and I think, I think we all should call them out for being anti competitive in that regard. So that's kind of one thought. Just there should be a level playing field. And to the extent we're seeing people act in different ways now, the other part I would say as much as the. A lot of the Fed managed by this administration, the federal government, not the Fed. As much as that shift has changed, I think some banks are still nervous until those changes are codified into law. The Genius act obviously helped and that unlocks. I think I had meetings yesterday in New York City where banks that would not have talked to us three years ago are now leaning in and saying how can we partner around this?

[Interviewer]

Around stablecoin.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Around stablecoins for sure. And again the delta there is the Genius act has codified into law. We haven't seen that happen. I mean again Ripple has had. We fought the fight and we have clarity that XRP is not a security, but the industry doesn't have that. Which I think creates challenges for some of the more conservative banking infrastructure. Even though they're like, yeah, okay, we're interested, but are they really leaning in because they're worried that in three years from now there's another election and is there a shift? I think that's a little bit too cautionary because I think every day that goes by, even if without the Clarity act in place, there's more and more firm policy positions that agencies are taking.

[Chip]

And so probably stop it there. It's coming up on the half hour here so we probably should get to talking about yeti. So type in yeti. We have zero people. It's very strange. I'm very just very strange. We got nothing here. I don't know what's going on but.

[Jeff]

There have been YouTube outages for the past hour across the board.

[Chip]

Yeah. Okay, so you guys have to watch this on. That's what, that's what. That's what Eisewine was saying earlier. So we saw that from a couple people. So you guess you have to watch us on hopefully.

[Jeff]

I went on down detector and unfortunately YouTube is. People are coming back online but there were lots of outages all around the country, mostly big cities.

[Chip]

And we started here what, 15, 15 minutes long is things how Long is this damn thing.

[Jeff]

How do I get back? Therehere we go.

[Chip]

21. So six more minutes. So. So we'll just cut it there. Yeah, it was a great. It was a great, great podcast.

[Jeff]

There we go.

[Chip]

Great conversation I thought they had. There we go. There's our first yeti. We got three in there already.

[Jeff]

I'll leave so I can win. That's what happened last time.

[Chip]

That's what happened.

[Jeff]

You left. We had the drawing and you won. And then you were gone.

[Chip]

It's happened to a lot of people. They leave, snooze, you lose. That's how it works, people.

[Jeff]

The copper pot.

[Chip]

It's happening. It is happening. So. All right, Jeff, let's roll the video.

[Jeff]

All right, check this out. This is a pretty. I think it's. It's pretty kick ass.

[Chip]

A badass Yeti from the blue tribe. The pathfinders rise. Your key. There's a man wallet. Your face on the chain.

[Jeff]

What yet?

[Chip]

Scuffy walks where stars don't glow. Whispers drift through frozen snow I so gentle come serene yet nothing survives when she is seen. No blade, no cry, no sign. Just silence by design.

[Jeff]

You call me as you see.

[Chip]

The frost will take what you believe.

[Jeff]

Pray you never cross away.

[Chip]

Scy al pat finder. No tracks remain. No s, no sound. Where Scathy walks. The lost I found. She. Gus. The veil, the edge of D and no. Every myth she's built upon. Badass Yetis on the chain. It's on the chain.

[Jeff]

Boom.

[Chip]

Did I hear her say she?

[Jeff]

She. Scathy is a she.

[Chip]

Scathy's a she. How do we know that Scathy is a she? I thought I heard. I thought. That by me. No way.

[Jeff]

It's the first time we've introduced the. The female badass yeti.

[Chip]

There's only one, apparently. Scathy. So. Gosh, we're up to five yetis. Not much. Some people in here.

[Jeff]

Holy cow.

[Chip]

Yeah. You got a one in five chance of winning. Holy cow, man. And the blue Tribe, those are like, depending on how much you gotta calculate the. It's a decent value.

[Jeff]

That's right. Let me see if it's here.

[Chip]

Value.

[Jeff]

It has not. Is not minted yet. Let me see. Nope. Still not available. Nope. Not available yet. All right. The song was minted as well, but the song has not arrived into the. Into the fold.

[Chip]

Oh, where is it?

[Jeff]

Still doing whatever. It's in the ether.

[Chip]

It's in the. Oh, it's still. It's still waiting to be minted. It's. It's doing its thing. It's minting.

[Jeff]

It's. It's being created somehow. I see whatever they do.

[Chip]

I see whatever. Whatever it does, Jeff, this is why you. Look what happened with Hamas that wrote. Went into.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah, so. So, so many. So many people are. So. They're these big fans of Hamas, right? They came out, they prayed with their flags. Most of these people never took a moment to just go back a little bit back in history to see what these people do, what they're capable of. Oh, how they. How they rule and control. So I think. All right, so it's pretty graphic and horrible.

[Chip]

Yeah. Guys, let's tell you, this is horrific. They line people up, put, you know, cover over their head and basically executed them, right? So, I mean, this is pretty hard to understand. Look at the crowd that showed up for this. This is. This is a culture that is not steeped in any. In greatness. Okay? If there were mass. If. I mean, where would you see a max. Execute? I mean, it's just. It's bizarre.

[Jeff]

It's bizarre world.

[Chip]

And the way I understand it, these were the resistance, right? These were the people that were somewhat armed. They basically went in, they're taking them out because Hamas rules with the iron fist. And I don't. I don't think I should even play it, Jeff. But just.

[Jeff]

No, we don't need to play it.

[Chip]

You just notice they get the scene there. You can just see that they. They all basically get executed. Shot right in the back of the head. And I always see if you're in that position, would you try to run away? Yeah, you get shot, but do you already sit there and wait for the bullet to. You know, I don't know. It's tough. It's a tough call, but I guess at that time, you're so broken. But it's just so sad to see that. It's just so sad.

[Jeff]

But there's. This is what's happening. There's, you know, you. They finally have a chance. The fighting's over. But the. The whole culture over there, it's all about just death. That's death and destruction, you know, and then they try to focus all the. All these people on the left that wanted to claim, you know, that Israel somehow was committing a genocide, yet here they go, you know, they're fighting against a terrorist entity, the same as the US Fought against. Against terrorist entities. Or, you know, you had the. The coalition fighting against terrorists around the world, and here's Israel surrounded on all sides by. By enemy combatants. Terrorists trying to destroy them. Missiles flying in from Yemen by The hoodies, missiles being thrown in from, from the north, from Lebanon. And then you had the destabilization of Syria and then you had, you know, how many thousands of people there was like 1200, 3, 1300 men, women and children massacred at the hands of the Palestinians. There's not one country on earth, not one country on planet Earth that if terrorists infiltrated your border and massacred 1300 people, that you just sat back and say, hey, we're going to take it. If, if that happened to the US which by the way, 9, 11, you know, we actually were attacked on our soil and we obliterated hundreds of thousands of people. We, we wiped out, you know, a big, big swaths of, of Iraq and in Afghanistan, if you remember, shock and awe in, in Iraq, shock and awe was just a relentless bombardment campaign indiscriminate of civilian casualty. They attacked the city. Israel, on the other hand, they, and it's interesting too because there's so many videos within Israel, coming out on the buses everywhere, and it's multicultural. You have an Israeli soldier sitting next to a Muslim woman, you know, cover it up and then you just see, you know, multiple Arab Muslim women on the, on the train. And you have Israelis and they have tourists and people from all cultural backgrounds and that's within Israel property. When you see people like this, what Hamas just did, you, you come to a realization that you're dealing with people that are the lowest com, the lowest denominator of society. I, I don't even know where they fit because they fit into no societal norm. You don't act that way. There's no behavioral mechanism where they immediately go out, they look for the collaborators. Even during the, the whole conflict that was going on, Hamas was still murdering people. I don't know how many videos I saw of them, of them killing people. There was one guy, they butchered him with, with a garden hoe. It was the craziest thing to watch. And this is how they treat, treated their own people. All of the food product that was brought in, Hamas was taking it and keeping it for themselves and they were starving their people on purpose, you know, and then you have such a large percentage of the population within, within the Gaza borders that were siding with Hamas, whether it was, you know, because that's, they believe or not believe. But we have generation after generation that has been raised on the notion of hate there. There's no, hey, we just want to get out of this and we're going to fight and then we're going to have normal society that doesn't exist there. There is no normalcy within their education system. From the time the baby's born and, and upwards, they're taught to hate and murder and kill and want to sacrifice themselves, you know, with, as, as suicide bombers. There's another video that was circulating of a father and son and you know, and, and they, Israel is going to release 2500 terrorists that have blood on their hands. Then some of the most extreme, they're not letting go. Some of them have life sentences. And the world is saying, trying to, to have some sort of an equivalency, but they're letting 2, 500 people go and, and they're showing them. I saw someone else making a claim that some of the people coming out of the Israeli jails were, were injured. You know, well, Israel gave them medical care, but these people were captured in process, captured alive while they were trying to kill people. They're, they were either ramming a vehicle, they were stabbing, they were shooting, they were trying to blow themselves up, whatever it was. These people weren't just random people picked off the street. These were people that have blood on their hands for attempted murder, attempted terrorism, or an actual act of terrorism. And, and that's why they were in those jails. And so. And then on the other hand, you have the Israelis that two years have sat in, in, in, in hole, in a hole in the ground someplace, moved around because they were actually kidnapped at gunpoint as their friends and potential and family were massacred in front of them. There's zero moral equivalency whatsoever. And at this point, you know, hopefully we see, you know, with Trump at the helm of what he accomplished, that we're gonna see a rebuild of Gaza and there'll be zero control and authority granted to the Palestinians whatsoever. Because it's been proven over and over and over and over again that when you give them an inch, they try to take a mile. They did it in Syria, they did it in Lebanon, they did it in Jordan. They've done it and they've. Obviously, we just saw what they've done over the years in Gaza. 2005, Israel pulled out of Gaza and said, here you go, you can have Gaza. And they pulled the Jews out. There was, you know, there was a point where they actually had to remove Jewish families from Gaza and Israeli families from Gaza. And they gave them everything. They gave them greenhouses, they gave them plumbing. They gave them everything, the businesses, the real estate. And they come in, Hamas comes in, and they destroyed everything, everything there. It just.

[Chip]

Only because they would never Take it from Israel because they want to kill every, every, you know, just the whole thing. They don't want it to exist. From the river to the sea. Destruction of Israel. That's what it comes down to, Jeff. I mean it's like, you know, so that Zo Zoron, I call him Zoran the thanks to Michael Rappaport. I can't get enough of his videos. He's just, he drops a lot of obscenities but he, he hits it right on the head. But here was Zoran. The Mandani was on with Fox News and it was an okay interview but some shocking stuff. Well, not so shocking, but just like the fact that he's like very open about stuff. But I have three clips here. Let's watch the first one here.

[Interviewer]

Individuals in this city pay more than 50% of their income in taxes. When you talk about a fair share, how much more than what is the fair share? What's the number?

[Chip]

I've said that we should increase personal.

[Interviewer]

Income taxes is fair.

[Chip]

And my point is this.

[Interviewer]

More than half of your income.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

That's if you're making a million dollars.

[Chip]

In New York City or more than that, you can afford to pay 2% more. And the reasons you can afford to.

[Jeff]

Do so is because that money will.

[Chip]

Be used to better your quality of life as well. Because same clown, I'm sorry, 50%. She more than 50% in, in most cases. But no, that's not enough. Remember the T went into the sea in Boston for a 3% tax. Okay, 3%. And he wants 2% added to the 50. Whatever percent tax. And then that's, it's just, it's out of control. But Jeff, it's gonna better.

[Jeff]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chip]

With what? With, with the state run grocery stores. I worked out great in Venezuela. It surely worked phenomenal in Argentina. Right. I mean he's sure Cuba works very good.

[Jeff]

This penny's on a dollar.

[Chip]

Used to see the video, used to see the video of the, of the empty shelves in Cuba, you know their state run stores.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

When I speak to the wealthiest New Yorkers, I hear concerns. They're not going to be concerns about you, dude. City, the quality of life in the city, questions of public safety.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

This money is the money that will be used to deliver on those things.

[Chip]

So that we can ensure that we.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Have a return on investment for all.

[Chip]

Of the money that we are raising and spending. Right, about the money you raise right now, what are you doing with that money? I know we're going to raise new money because that's going to fix the problem. You ever notice with the Democrats, raising tax is always going to fix the problem. And it creates three problems. Always.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chip]

If you see a Democrats, they're like, well, here's what I want to do. Reduce taxes. Get them out, out of the party right now. Get them out here across the five boroughs.

[Jeff]

Because it. Where does it end?

[Chip]

Smile. Yeah, where does it end, Devon?

[Jeff]

See, if trouble with socialists is that they soon run out of everybody's money. That's Margaret Thatcher. She was 100% right.

[Interviewer]

So you've denounced Israel.

[Chip]

I mean, that's the problem with socialism, is you run out of other people.

[Interviewer]

So you've denounced Israel and the United States for the response to the slaughter on October 7th. In fact, at times you've called it a lasting stain, the response. And at times you have left October 7th out of your statements completely around this issue right now. You just talked about Israelis killing some Palestinians, but Hamas is killing Palestinians within Gaza and they have not returned the bodies that they promised to return, including two Americans, Itai Chan and Omar Neutral, whose families we have interviewed over these months. So what is your response to what Hamas is doing now?

[Chip]

I think those are bodies and remains that should absolutely be remembered returned. And I think that I have no issue with critiquing Hamas or the Israeli government because my critiques all come from a place of universal human rights. So he did that. Yeah, he's not going to comment on that. Universal rights. What are the universal rights exactly? The universal. These universal globalist rights never favor Israel, but he's saying it in a way that nobody knows what he's talking about. And my focus, however, is right here.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

In New York City and transforming the.

[Chip]

Most expensive city in America into one that's affordable for each sidestep by raising taxes. Good job. He's going to transform it into one of the best cities ever. Ever. New York.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And I want to get to that. Absolutely. But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?

[Chip]

I believe that any future. It's a yes or no answer, Mr. Zoran. The moron. Listen, he can't even answer the question, Jeff.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I believe that any future here in.

[Chip]

New York City is one that we have to make sure that's affordable for all.

[Jeff]

And as it pertains, he won't answer the question because it's a character issue. You know, as soon as he comes out to support the terror group, that's it. That's the end of his political career.

[Chip]

So he's going to answer a question that wasn't asked.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chip]

Where everybody knows that we have to ensure that there is peace and that is the future that we have to fight for.

[Interviewer]

But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their arms and give up leadership in Gaza.

[Chip]

I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond. Well, you do. You just don't want to tell people you. Of course you have an opinion about it, dude. You're 100% all in. What are you talking about? This is, this is when the lion, when the Pinocchio nose starts growing right here. The question of justice and safety and the fact that anything has to abide by international law. And that applies to Hamas, that applies to the Israeli military, applies to anyone you could ask me about. Imagine telling a sovereign country that you've got to now be governed by international law. Sorry, dude. This is what's, this is what these, these, these globalists look like. No, we have here. We're a constitutional republic. We adhere to the Constitution. We don't give a what's happening internationally. We get to the Internet. Look at those smug smiles. The lion through his teeth because he wants to get, you know, elected. It's horrible.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Chip]

She said okay. She let him off. I would have been like, she wasn't going to press. Press him any further.

[Jeff]

That's the end of the interview.

[Chip]

Yeah, pretty much. Okay, we're done.

[Interviewer]

Now rest Netanyahu. If he came to the United States, you've been very outspoken in your criticism of him. Do you stand by that? You would arrest him if he came here, if you were mayor?

[Chip]

I've said that. This is a city that believes in international law.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

And this is a city that wants to international law.

[Chip]

It is not a city that believes in international law. It is a city that believes in the United States Constitution. Like, this is what happens when you, when you have somebody. You can't take their argument apart. Since when? Tell me, Jeff, where did, when did New York City become a city that believes in international law? We don't have any international laws. Have no governing power. Power over the United States.

[Jeff]

Zero.

[Chip]

She never call, she never calls him on it. Right? She never calls him on it.

[Jeff]

He's already out speaking her, unfortunately.

[Chip]

Yeah, because she's outspoken. She's not. She, she's great at reading off that teleprompter. She does an amazingly good job when you're interviewing somebody. You know who does a pretty good job is the Republicans are. Do a pretty good job when they're doing. When they're doing a hearing whether it's in the House or the Senate. They do not let. They do not let you off the hook. They hit you. Why? Because most of them were litigators. Most of them were. 90% of them are in Congress, are attorneys. They know how to, you know, to debate and how to get the question. He just starts going off and she's just like, okay, he's a smooth talking Gavin Newsom in a Muslim suit. That's.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

And this is a city that wants to uplift and uphold those beliefs.

[Chip]

The primary.

[Jeff]

What beliefs, Jeff?

[Chip]

The international law. Jeff. It's. And she never says, wait a minute, since when was New York City. I understand she has some decorum, but if you're going to interview this Assad, call him on his bs. No, we're not following international law.

[Interviewer]

United States doesn't stand by the International Criminal Court.

[Chip]

It hasn't signed the treaty. She did say it. Okay, this is good. The International Criminal Court, it hasn't signed the treaty for the International Criminal Court. The International Criminal Court, however, has issued a warrant for the arrest of Benjamin Netanyahu, as it has.

[Interviewer]

How many crowns in the United States could you arrest him on?

[Chip]

As it has for Vladimir Putin? I've said that I believe that we should uphold arrest warrants by the International Criminal Court and that we should do so only in abiding with all of the laws in front of us. I'm not going to make a new.

[Jeff]

Law to ensure that we can make enough law.

[Interviewer]

Tish would allow you to arrest Netanyahu in New York City.

[Chip]

I've appreciated Commissioner Tisch's leadership of the nypd and I think that she's done a good job at lowering crime.

[Jeff]

I love how they get funny.

[Interviewer]

But if she. Do you think that she would, she would go along with arresting Netanyahu in New York?

[Chip]

I can tell you that I'm going to exhaust every legal option in front of me not to make new laws to do so. You don't have any.

[Jeff]

Look at it. Look how smug he is with every.

[Chip]

But. But he doesn't have any legal standing, Jeff. He's got zero legal standing.

[Jeff]

Zero legal standing.

[Chip]

Got a constitution here. Now someone's guessing that they're paying lefty influencers to, to now endorse. Now they're. Now there's this whole thing on tick tock and everywhere about Sharia law. Out of nowhere, all of a sudden, everyone's pro Sharia law. This kid, this kid starts spitting the truth bombs here. I'm gonna bring Shia law To the United States. Do you even know what Sharia law is?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I do. Let's take a look.

[Interviewer]

Feeding the poor, that's Sharia.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Owning women as sexual property, that's Sharia.

[Interviewer]

Smiling at someone, that's Sharia.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Jihadism. And fighting non Muslims, that's Sharia.

[Interviewer]

Being kind to your neighbor.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Unaliving homosexuals.

[Interviewer]

Education for every child.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Women being worth half as much as a man.

[Chip]

Women's right to work.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Women's right to be beaten by their husbands and to be forsaken in bed.

[Chip]

Marriage must be between two consenting adults.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Unless of course it's your prophet Muhammad. Police be upon him because he married.

[Chip]

A six year old workers right to fair pay.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Unless of course you aren't a Muslim because then you will be taxed into poverty.

[Interviewer]

The current court system is derived from Sharia.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

No it's not. It's derived from the Roman court system which came hundreds of years before democracy is Sharia. No, it actually came from, from Democritus, a Greek philosopher who came 1000 years before democracy. Democritus. See how we got that name? Hospitals have been built on Sharia law, okay? But the Catholic church has built way more hospitals. And St. Basil the Great is often credited as building the first hospital. So why on earth would we choose Sharia law over Christianity?

[Chip]

We're already living under Sharia law.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

No, we are not. Because our women are allowed to go outside without covering themselves head to toe.

[Chip]

So what exactly are you fearing?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Hm, let's see. Sharia law and the loss of western culture. By the way, Muhammad is now the most common boy's name in England and Wales. God bless.

[Chip]

I can't. Nailed it.

[Jeff]

But you, you get women like that, Men, women, doesn't matter. They, they don't take a second to learn or try to dig up what they're talking about. They're so clueless. They got some talking points someplace. They watch some YouTube videos, they talk to the somebody out on the street that's lying to them. They get brainwashed. Maybe it's in school, maybe it's a university. Maybe it's their friend, their co worker that, that they go to lunch with. Then they befriended this co worker and the co workers, you know, feeding them all this garbage, but they never take a minute to actually research it. They just spew it as fact. So thank God for that. You know, that kid just broke it down perfectly. It's just, it, it's unbelievable, you know. Now the largest mosque in the world is being built in Dearborn, by the way.

[Chip]

Dearborn, the Largest.

[Jeff]

The largest.

[Chip]

No, that cannot be true.

[Jeff]

Maybe one of the largest might be the largest.

[Chip]

I don't know about that. That's.

[Jeff]

I saw them putting the gold, the golden dome on.

[Chip]

Well, okay. Well, then I just. I'm shocked if it's the largest one. Anyway, here's one more thing on Zoran Mandani. Here he is. This morning, New York Democratic mayoral candidate.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Zoran Mandani faces brutal backlash after accepting.

[Chip]

Thousands of dollars in illegal foreign donations. Reports show his campaign received more than.

[Interviewer]

170 contributions from addresses outside of the U.S. amounting to more than 13,000.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Republican mayoral candidate Curtis Sliwa said it's.

[Chip]

Very problematic, not just for Zoran Mandani.

[Jeff]

But anybody who has these kinds of PACs, because it's a license to illegally funnel money.

[Interviewer]

And foreign countries know you don't have.

[Chip]

To go to war against America. All you gotta do is manipulate the election. Well said. I mean, my God, that's. He's taken backlash. How about. That's illegal backlash. Oh, you shouldn't do that. It's about. Oh, yeah, okay. I won't. Everything's cool. One of my favorite candidates to emerge this session is none other than winsome Earl Sears. She is a powerhouse. She's currently the lieutenant governor of Virginia, which means, if you guys don't know about this, in the states here, you know, you know the president, and underneath the president is the vice president. For a state like Virginia, you've got the governor, and then you've got. What's the equal, like a vice president? Second in command is the lieutenant governor. She is already the lieutenant governor in the second position of Virginia. So the nut bag that's running against her, we played the clip the other night when she was great, when she. When she was saying, abigail, Abigail. He was calling for death and wanted the kids to die in his arms. Republicans. You wanted to kill Republicans, Abigail. And she's sitting there the whole time. Right, well, here. This is just brutal. This is another brutal takedown. Here we go.

[Interviewer]

We win here. We will be doing right by the people who have devoted themselves to the prospect of and the promise of diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility.

[Chip]

Okay, so here she goes. Gonna get destroyed here. We want all children to have an opportunity. That's what my father received when he came, came with only $1.75 in his pocket. And some people would say that he was back in the starting blocks while the white child was halfway at the completion line. But I would say to you, my father used education. Education to get him where he is now. Comfortably retired, an immigrant. And I'm saying, we are overcomers. Black children are overcomers. The slaves did not die in the place first feels. So we could be saying in this century that we are victims. Martha. They would say to us, is that what we died for? No, we died for you to have an opportunity. Take it. You have that. We have had a black president. We have. Sitting in the White House, well, just about, I guess, in the vice presidency. A woman whose father came from Jamaica two years before my father came from Jamaica at the height of the civil rights movement. She's second in command. We have me, I'm second in command. Martha, in the former capital of the Confederate States. Have things changed? They have. And I say to our children, you are overcomers. Don't let anyone tell you you're a victim, because if you are a victim, that means you need a political savior. You don't need them. Damn, she's. Bam. Let. Let her have it. Yeah, she is so. I mean, she was so masterful in that debate. I, I know why that Abigail, whatever her name is, kept her mouth shut. She would have been destroyed. So just her, her best move was saying nothing about it, getting all the flack about it. But it would have been worse had she opened her mouth, because she would have been destroyed. So I, I just think to myself, like, I, I really hope she wins because she's, she'll be a phenomenal governor and who knows what, where her political career could take, you know, take her. But I mean, she's phenomenal. Obviously she couldn't be president because I think she was foreign born, actually. No, her father came over here, so I don't know if she, I don't know if she's born, but she's from, I know, from Jamaica, but I don't know if she was born here or not. But anyway, anyway, she's a powerhouse, man. I mean, holy cow, it's fantastic. When Trump was just recently on his trip, there was a hot mic moment. He was talking to Prime Minister Carney from Canada. So I listen to this. I don't know if you can hear it. I'll see if. But this is, this is why I love Trump right here. This is what I voted for. He is the funniest guy that exists.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I'm glad you upgraded me to president.

[Chip]

So in his speech, if you can't hear this, in his speech, Carney comes up to him and to Trump and says, I'm glad you upgraded me to president. He's a Prime minister. So basically, Trump misspoke and called him president. So Carney's saying thanks for upgrading me to President. He said, at least I didn't call you Governor. Don't you remember? He was giving Trudeau. He called. He was calling Trudeau the Governor of Canada. So he says the Carney, at least I didn't call you governor. And smacks him. What a great. What a funny ass line. My God, it's just so good. It went by fast, but.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I'm glad you upgraded me to President.

[Chip]

He said he'd say Governor.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's hilarious.

[Chip]

Remus the Culture Doe, Governor of Canada. So fun just to kind of just to mess with them. At least I didn't call you Governor. This guy is so quick on his feet, man. He's so freaking quick on his feet here. We have panic going on with the Dems right now. So anyway, I thought I was gonna. I caught a bunch of clips for what was going down. The oral arguments today with the Supreme Court, they're so inside baseball, Jeff, that I just think would bore this crowd. But man, there was the, the chief, the, the justices were phenomenal today. It was just such a takedown. And that Katanji Brown, she is just clueless as clueless can be. She doesn't know what she's talking about half the time. It's. It was so embarrassing to listen to. But anyway, this is what's the Dems are in full panic mode. Full panic represents pretty accurately mathematically how the country's divided over the question of the presidency. But if you look at this, this is what the party pickups would be for congressional districts. Republicans, five Missouri, one North Carolina, one. Ohio two or three Indiana one or two Florida. Still discussion down there, but that could be another gold mine for them if they tipped it even further their way. Kansas, 1. New Hampshire 1. Nebraska. Democrats, Utah, California, Maryland. Look at this. If you offset California and Texas, Missouri and ut, Utah, North Carolina and Maryland, everything left over is an advantage to the Republicans. And don't forget, the Supreme Court is considering what could really be the end of the Voting Rights act, which would protect minority groups. So you don't have a state that's half black, for example, that elects only one congressional member and everybody else goes to the Republicans. That would represent that population in some ways. So by the way, that was what oral arguments were today and what I heard. That thing is going away. Dems could lose up to 19 seats. If that is gutted, Democrats could lose 19 seats. This would be a huge amount. But this is also a measure of how much the White House is concerned about this because Donald Trump knows if the Democrats get the House again, there could be new investigations just like last time. There could be a new impeachment. There could be be a lot of impediment to these plans that right now the Republicans in the House and Senate are letting run like a freight train. Yeah, creep. Keep dreaming, son. That ain't happening. Democrats are digging their own grave. It's so deep right now they can't even see daylight. That's how bad it is, Jeff. They don't understand. They don't understand. I don't even stand a chance. And I thought I'd play a funny one too, but this is. This is Shane Gillis. This is him. This is Trump as Hitler.

[Jeff]

So.

[Chip]

So let's hear. I'm Hitler.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

They didn't have anyone to play Hitler.

[Chip]

So they called me, the studio called me. They said, donald, could you please get us out of this? The size of this crowd, we've got a lot of Jews here.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I don't think he ever read the script.

[Chip]

That guy right there, he's a Jew. No, I'm kidding. Don't get him.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I didn't like all the Jew stuff in the script.

[Chip]

If I was to put anyone on a train, it would be crooked Hillary.

[Jeff]

Don't attack Jews.

[Chip]

Instead drink, bruise.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

That's always said, this was my shining moment.

[Chip]

I need the Holocaust. Oh, he said he liked the Holocaust.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Not that I would need it to have happened. I seem to be very eager for Holocaust crybaby gerbils. I'm not a crybaby. I'm not a crybaby. Joe, Crybaby gerbils is a huge.

[Chip]

All he wants to do is a holocaust. Can we get rid of this guy? I've got a couple people's numbers. We could call the Rock. I got fired. I called Japan. I said, hirohito. I said, you better slow down.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

He told me, we'll never surrender.

[Chip]

That's how you know we'll never surrender. I said, I bet you do. That's what I said. Sure enough, the next day I bombed the out of him. He literally harnessed the sun and threw it at them arenas in Japan. Apparently Trump's not very good at being Hitler. And yeah, the there's doing another one of those no King rallies there. There's really nothing to make sense on that side anymore, Jeff. It's just complete disaster on every level.

[Jeff]

Complete disaster.

[Chip]

I mean, I just like, you know, Keith Ellison, he's the Minnesota Attorney General. There was a. There was one of these Honor flights. There was an honor flight. They're waiting at the airport. They're receiving an honor flight. That's usually when they fly with, you know, the dead on there. And they, they, and they're, they were also on their way to Hawaii to commemorate. And so here's Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota. Watch how the whole airport reacts. And watch how he reacts. Everybody's clapping in this video. He's just standing there looking around. The whole entire airport when it was announced that it's an honor flight is, is returning. This is how they're clapping for the troops. And this is how the AG reacts to this news. And the guy who's on his phone's clapping. Now the whole airport's clapping. Nope. They're always going to show you who they are, Jeff.

[Jeff]

Always.

[Chip]

But when it's election time, I gotta tell you about how we have to support the troops, how everything's fantastic. Do you know who Alyssa Lyssa Farah is, Jeff? Do you know who she is?

[Jeff]

I do not.

[Chip]

Okay, she's on the View. And so they asked Trump about her. So. But she made a promise on the View if this event were to happen. Watch this and watch Trump's reaction thing.

[Interviewer]

A five alarm fire. If he does good, if he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise she's talking about Trump.

[Chip]

If he gets the Israeli hostages out, Fire.

[Interviewer]

If he does good, if he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on the show and say thank you for doing it. She'll knock it right off my head. But like, you have to be able to cheer for wins when they happen and then call out relentlessly the wrongdoing.

[Chip]

Well, a couple days have gone by and she hasn't worn the hat yet, but they asked Trump about it on a lighter.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Think I was going to be called the peacemaker.

[Chip]

Actually, I did.

[Jeff]

I saw some of the actions you were doing.

[Chip]

But on a lighter note, Alyssa Farrah, she is one of the hosts on ABC's show the View. She said a while back, I'll quote.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

If Trump gets the Israeli hostages out.

[Chip]

I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on this show and say thank you for doing it. Your response?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Well, did she put the hat on?

[Chip]

Well, she hasn't got the hat yet. Who is it? Which one?

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Elizabeth Bara. Well, she used to work for me.

[Chip]

So.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

She used to work here. I'll tell you about Alyssa.

[Chip]

She worked here. She gave me the most beautiful letter. When you know the administration, the time.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Came up, the election was rigged.

[Chip]

I left. She gave me the most beautiful letter you've ever seen. I was a great president. What a great job. Some of the letters have been quoted. This is Alyssa, who I never thought was very outstanding.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

I figured she would not make it.

[Chip]

And she didn't have a big role role here either.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

And then we had January 6th and she left.

[Chip]

She left after that or before that, but she gave me the most beautiful letters.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

And then even months after she left.

[Chip]

And while we weren't here any longer, she sent another letter, glowing letter, beautiful letter.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

And then she got hired by the.

[Chip]

View and they gave her a couple.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Of bucks and she changed the your view very quickly.

[Chip]

I never thought she'd make it. Never thought she had what it took in any way. You know what that means.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

But she's on the View.

[Chip]

But it just shows what a fraud.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

The View is because this woman gave.

[Chip]

Me letters and statements. She used to work for Trump. She worked in administration. Glowing letters. And then she gets on there. I promise I'll wear it. And you know damn well she's not going to wear the MAGA hatch there's not going to wear the MAGA hat. Bad. Anyway. Anyway, it's bad in Dearborn. My husband has family there. Yeah, well, I had a chance. I got a really good. There was a part of my life where, you know, Dearborn is where the Ford plant is. And I went through I don't know how many interviews at Ford when I, my earlier years before I moved to Florida. And that was the turning point either I, I was going to stay in Dearborn is going to take this amazing job where I knew I'd retire and I'd be happy and I would make great money. Bonnie and I would live in Dearborn or I would move to Florida. And it was a really tough choice, but I was glad I did it. What? There was a Rolling Stone article I read one time, Jeff, that really made me think about it hard. Had I not read that, I probably would have taken safety. Great job, great pay, the best job I ever had. Leadership role. And my whole life would have been different. I would have never known you would never been doing the show. My whole life would have turned out completely different. Waking up at five in the mornings to call for prayer, you know. Dearborn, Michigan so Sting from the police was in an article and they had asked them like, hey, you know, you were, you were pretty high up. You were going to be, you know, headmaster one day, you know, like a principal in a school. You were a teacher why didn't you take the safe route? Would have a nice, you know, it was very good job. And he said, you know, I thought exactly that. This is. He goes, I could see what my next 30 years of my life were going to look like. And I didn't like that. Yeah, of course I'd be happy headmaster and maybe I'd elevate from there. Then I'd retire, then I'd die. That wasn't the life I wanted. And I thought, geez, I want to work at Ford for 30 years, get my pension. And then, you know, I saw my dad do that too. He worked for General Motors 30 some years. That was it done. I was like, nope, I'm gonna. Let me take the road less taken. Let me go do something different. So I, man, I. And plus, when I was down in Dearborn, I mean, this is in the 90s, Jeff. I didn't like it. So I'd be retired right now. That would be the nice part about it. But I had to go. 30 years of something completely different.

[Jeff]

But work, living in. Living in Detroit, working for Ford.

[Chip]

Dig up when Trump calls for the UK pm. I did see that. He goes, hey, is the uk. It's uk. He's looking around. That was when he brought him up. He thought he was going to speak. I think we played that clip yesterday, didn't we?

[Jeff]

I think so.

[Chip]

Justin Trudeau's with Katy Perry cares. Who really, really cares. It might be time, Jeff, to throw up. The nine.

[Jeff]

Look, how many do I have? Nine. We gotta play this one more time.

[Chip]

Play the video and let's do this.

[Jeff]

Oh, wait. Might play this one first. Just.

[Chip]

I would type in yeti there, but she could become number 10 before we.

[Jeff]

Get to the song. By the way, this is what Art.

[Chip]

Used to us coming. Coming on live. That's why he showed up.

[Jeff]

I was like, that's right.

[Chip]

Five bucks for a latte. Half of that feed some hipsters avocado toast habit paired with an oat milk manifesto. Quit financing coffee fads you don't need. It's time to rebel.

[Jeff]

Your badass great grandpa had only one.

[Chip]

Tin cup and brewed his coffee over an open fire. We roast to order, ship free and keep every bean bold enough to wake the dead. Or at least her 9am meeting. We make coffee that punches Mondays in the face. Badassery Coffee fresh, fierce, great roasted fresh.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Ship free, chaos pending order now@badassery coffee.com. badassery coffee.com.

[Chip]

There it is. Badassery Coffee right there, baby. There's the Brand new logo for badassery. It is if you go to badass Yetis. Thank you very much. Jeff and I worked hard on this. If you go to badass Yetis, it will end up here. But this is Badassery coffee. This is the brand new brand name. So it's more encompassing. And there it is right there, the bag. So if you have one of the original bags, if you have some of our coffee now that says Badass Yetis. I keep that because that right there is a collector's item. No more of those exist. They've now been updated with the new brand logo. There it is.

[Jeff]

Look at that kick ass logo that chip came up with. Thing is amazing.

[Chip]

I love it. I showed it to my buddy. He goes, dude, that is badass. I go, flaming skull always equals badassery. That's a flaming skull, man.

[Jeff]

Well, I'll tell you what. I can't wait until we put those on a shirt. We're gonna have some perfect merch. There's bad Ashrae shirts, badassery hat with the logo. The thing in the back, it's gonna be kicking.

[Chip]

I like that. I like that a lot. The whole bean coffee, man. Get some of this. I'll drop the brand new domain inside there. Badasserycoffee.com with the logo.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I can't wait for the that the merch to come out. We're gonna get some nice hats, nice logo, nice shirts. It's gonna be kick ass badassery. Everybody wants a little badasser in their life.

[Chip]

Hell yeah, man. I could see that. I could totally see that.

[Jeff]

So, all right, and now in time for the drawing, we're gonna roll out this song one more time. Everybody get their yeti keyboard ready and get ready to type in some yeti and then we're gonna do the drawing. So here we go.

[Chip]

When a badass Yeti from the Blue tribe. The pathfinders rise. Sc walks where stars don't glow Whispers drift through frozen snow I so gentle come serene yet nothing survives when she is seen no blame, no cry no sign Just silence by design Cute.

[Jeff]

And call me as you see the.

[Chip]

Frost will take what you believe Pray you never cross away Scatter pathfinder. No tracks remain no scent, no sound Where Scathy walks the lost I found she guides the veil the edge she's built upon.

[Jeff]

Oh, made for legend Claim.

[Chip]

Your be forgotten Badass Yetis on the chain is on the chain. That's a good one, Jeff. They're so good that I think we're just taking them for Granted, now that's. Something's happening. I mean, like, that's like such a production, man. It's so phenomenal. It'll take you two weeks in a recording studio to come up with all that. It's incredible.

[Jeff]

The crazy thing is that was one of the original Personas that I created.

[Chip]

Oh, really?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

Cool.

[Jeff]

Created it back in version make the.

[Chip]

Fast Time original high soundtrack, which is a great soundtrack.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chip]

What happened with that rock and tune? When I win, I might feel guilty for coming in so late. No, you know you won't because that's when we usually start. You're right on time for most people. All right, Play the song, Jeff. I'm gonna let it rip.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Chip]

Art wins. People will be saying it's rigged.

[Jeff]

It's rigged.

[Chip]

It's already say it's rigged. The Chad wins. Will be like it rigged. Charles wins be like it's Ray. Pretty much anybody wins from the visual vendettas as a one in a while risking.

[Brad Garlinghouse]

Is it risky?

[Chip]

Maybe. Let's go boom on the chain. Aloha. Yeah, Alexa. Aloha. Xrp. Aloha, Are you in here?

[Jeff]

Aloha. Xrp.

[Chip]

Where is Aloha?

[Jeff]

There he is right there. But that didn't say he's here. That was like two minutes ago, though.

[Chip]

He could.

[Jeff]

Aloha.

[Chip]

Xrp, definitely.

[Jeff]

Are you still here? There he is.

[Chip]

Aloha. He's here. Let's go, baby.

[Jeff]

All right.

[Chip]

Hello.

[Jeff]

Xrp, we need your zombie. We need your Zaman wallet address. Zaman wallet. Give us your Zaman wallet address and we're going to transfer your Joey wallet.

[Chip]

Joey wallet works too.

[Jeff]

Or your Joey wallet. Yes.

[Chip]

You got to stop saying jazz. There's so many wallets now that work.

[Jeff]

Zamen. Rhymes with ramen.

[Chip]

Rhymes with ramen. Joey Zum wasn't good. Remember, it was Zum.

[Jeff]

Z. Zum was a hard one.

[Chip]

Z. Z's better. I like Z better. But Zum was good. See, look.

[Jeff]

Jackie came around.

[Chip]

She said, see?

[Jeff]

See? Congrats.

[Chip]

She first. She said I was definitely rigged, but she's goofing. Art said it was right, but he would have felt guilty anyway, so I'm glad he didn't win. He thought she said he would have felt guilty.

[Jeff]

It was rigged.

[Chip]

Rock and tune as usual, maestro. Thank you, Jeff. Beautiful. It's great.

[Jeff]

Gotta log into the YouTube.

[Chip]

I'm start working on some merch. I'll make a whole merch page for. For the badassery stuff. Big skulls and flaming skulls and need.

[Jeff]

To get some unique like Limited edition hat shirt. Be so kick ass.

[Chip]

Combos. Yeah, I need to get some for myself, dude. I need to order some.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I definitely want some.

[Chip]

I definitely need to get it on the machine to go to Swell.

[Jeff]

Am I on the chain? Didn't fit right anymore.

[Chip]

Did you ever hear from. Yeah, mine was kind of weird too. But did you. Did you ever hear back from Swell?

[Jeff]

Not yet.

[Chip]

They didn't say if you could go or not.

[Jeff]

Not yet.

[Chip]

Have you checked your. Are you sure you checked your. Your spam folder now?

[Jeff]

I'll double check.

[Chip]

Check it, man. See? Check, check.

[Jeff]

We can do a members only live stream. There you go. Switch to members only.

[Chip]

Imagine Blackhead.

[Jeff]

All right.

[Chip]

Gold logo.

[Jeff]

All right. A low xrp. Do you have your Zaman wallet address?

[Chip]

Do you have it? Do you. Do you. Do you.

[Jeff]

Going twice. I need your black. Wait, wait, wait. Well, trying to. I'm trying to share comments on the YouTube page. That doesn't work.

[Chip]

That's not gonna work.

[Jeff]

Black cat, gold logo. Thinking like it? Yeah. Nice. You can do a black hat. Do the badassery. That'd be cool. In gold and white. Do some color to it. Look at that would be cool.

[Chip]

Win some, lose some. This is why. This is why so zany. Look at this. This is a banana. Of course. It's a picture of an apple. Underneath the apple it says if you see an apple, you're a right wing extremist and a racist. By the way.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Loha Zaman wallet address and your X handle. So we can give you a free shout out.

[Chip]

Thank you.

[Jeff]

Chad's on top of things. We're sleeping on the job over here.

[Chip]

Doesn't let it slide, man. You know, he knows Aloha.

[Jeff]

He knows Aloha. XRP.

[Chip]

Looking for it. It's in your zomb. It's right inside your wallet.

[Jeff]

But maybe it's not so easy to find.

[Chip]

That's not that hard to find. It's not so hard. Boom, baby Boom, baby. Boom, baby boom. All right.

[Jeff]

Top chat. There it is.

[Chip]

Boom, there it is. Aloha. Beautiful baby.

[Jeff]

Aloha.

[Chip]

Aloha. Big winner today. I wonder if Aloha XRP is actually female yeti. You hold that distinction?

[Jeff]

The first female.

[Chip]

The first female. Look at that. That's a hell of a distinction right there, people.

[Jeff]

Only because that's how it was written. And then it was so. I'm old. Sorry. Hardly use it. We get more use out of the Zaman wallet here. We use it three days a week.

[Chip]

Three days a week. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Here we go.

[Chip]

It is so fantastic.

[Jeff]

Other than that, I think this is the most use I ever get out of it.

[Chip]

Actually, they only use the studio here somewhere.

[Jeff]

Here we go. That's is sent. The Zaman wallet. The NFT is now sent. You are now the official there you go in Hawaii.

[Chip]

Yeah, that's kind of gonna reside in Hawaii. I love that.

[Jeff]

Oh, I was already sharing my screen. There you go. This guy right here. Aloha. This is yours. Badass Yeti number 151 has now been transferred. So make sure you receive it. Make sure you get it. Look at that. Badass.

[Chip]

Yeah. Oh yeah, that.

[Jeff]

That is scabby. Yes, Gabby, the badass yeti. I like the number too. Badass yeti number 151. A really cool number.

[Chip]

Beautiful. All right, guys, well, that's all we have tonight. Well, we'll be back on Saturday.

[Jeff]

Saturday, Saturday, 8:00am Eastern Standard Time with more music, more fun, more giveaways. And we'll be giving away a badass Yeti song.

[Chip]

More rants, all of it.

[Jeff]

I was gonna if this minted. I was gonna give it away with the nft, but it has still in mint processing somewhere.

[Chip]

Maybe Saturday we can do that.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I. I do have one here. This is the. This right here. This is Vendra Valkyria, the Shadow Mind prophecy. Which is pretty kick ass.

[Chip]

Yeah. All right, well, that's it, guys. That's all the time we have. We are out.

[Jeff]

Oh, we got. We are out, chip. An hour 20.

[Chip]

See you guys.

[Jeff]

Are you down with OTC?

[Chip]

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