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Jeff, I think we might have completely screwed this up.
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Okay, what do we screw up this time, Jeff?
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Well, not really us, but I'm talking about the entire XRP community. That's what I'm talking about.
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Oh, is that where we're going to start today?
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Well, actually we're starting there because for years we've actually been hearing that XRP is a payments token. XRP is for banks, XRP moves money. Okay, great. But then Ripple comes out this week and starts talking about AI agents paying each other RL USD stable coins, quantum readiness, Autumn autonomous commerce. And I'm sitting here going, what exactly are these people building?
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Well, that's exactly where my head went to because I'm looking at this and from a distance you're saying, whoa, what's going on here with this agentic agents? Because if you look at any one of these stories individually, you just go like, ah, it's just a one off type of story. But then you start putting them all together and it starts looking like Ripple has been building something or at least building towards something in a way that's really bigger than probably most people even realize.
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And you're right, that's actually the crazy part. Everyone's still arguing about the next XRP target. Meanwhile, Ripple's over here building infrastructure, real infrastructure for AI agents to transact with each other. And that's crazy.
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Yeah, it actually sounds insane. But then you realize when you actually start looking at it, it's the tools that are going to allow you to actually put it together and execute.
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The tools that allow you to execute. Exactly. So today we're going to connect all these dots because by the end of this show, you may come out to the same exact conclusion that we have. It was never about xrp.
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Now that might make a few people a little bit hot under the collar, Jeff. It's possible.
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I say to that. Good, let them be.
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Well, let's go. You ready to get in? Let's dig. Go. Let's go. Are you down with otc?
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That's it. You download.
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Welcome to on the Chain. Damn, those buttons are very close to each other.
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Are you down with otc? Welcome back to on the Chain. I am Jeff. Here we go as chip. And before anyone's starting to light up the comment section. No, we're not saying XRP doesn't matter.
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Yeah, because I can already see, I can already see the, the incoming already. You know, chips like, oh, XRP doesn't matter. Jeff doesn't like it anymore. Oh, it's all about price. That's not exactly what we're saying, Jeff.
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Not even close. What we're saying is that when you actually look at everything Ripple announced this week, it starts looking like XRP may be part of a much bigger strategy than most people have actually been talking about.
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And Ripple hasn't been touting from the rooftops that XRP is their North Star for no reason. You know, there's a lot that's caught my attention because if Ripple only had announced one thing. Yeah, okay. But you can kind of see the more and more is happening on a pretty regular basis. You know, maybe it's just another headline, but that's not exactly what happened.
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You know what you. Not even close. You've got Ripple talking about AI agents making payments. I still can't get over that part. You've got RLUSD expanding. You've got Bitso launching MXNB on the XRP ledger. You've got Fortune naming XRP one of the most influential projects in crypto. And you've got Ripple actively preparing the XRPL for a post quantum world. Say that again. Post quantum.
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Say it three times fast. Can't even say it once. Post quantum world. Post quantum world. Right. Pq what is it? W. That doesn't even. Sometimes the acronyms don't work, Jeff. And then, you know, here's the weird part, right? So it always seems like none of these things have anything to do. They're just sort of one offs. And so you kind of like zoom out from a higher level.
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Exactly. And when you actually do get to zoom out and you think, well, you actually start asking a very different question. And that's kind of where you guys are all going to come to. Because maybe Ripple wasn't building for where the market was. Maybe they've actually been made building the market or building for where the market is actually going.
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Big differentiator. Yeah, 100 job. And I think that's where we're going to go ahead and start today because first story by itself doesn't seem that important. Again, you got to put these, you got to kind of string them together. You got to put them in a way that you start connecting the dots, sort of change the way you look at the whole ecosystem as a whole. And it's not just Ripple, it's not just xrp, it's not the xrpl. There's a lot of interoperability that's going across chain everywhere and the building's happening everywhere. And it's a very positive thing for crypto. Even though, Jeff, you might hear a Lot of criticism like crypto's dead. I'm seeing a lot of cryptos dead. Especially the bitcoiners are talking about crypto's dead. Which is silly.
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That's right. Get all these comments here. Got designation, was sent here by narc. El Jefe, new member today. You want to support on the chain? You know what you guys can do? You can join as a member. You know what that does? It keeps the lights on and keeps the AI agents well fed.
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Yeah. And you got to keep those bastards well fed because they, they just eat credits like Pac Man. They just, they chomp. Jeff and I are always like hanging each other. Ran up against my limit again. Ran up against my limit again. And then what happened yesterday with, with Claude's new model, 72 hours and a few minutes old. And the US government took that down. We'll talk about that a little bit. I'll have some critique on that. But before we get into that, I think it's probably time that we actually start talking about crypto. What's going on with crypto and how exciting it is. I think that we're living through a really interesting time and it's the Clarity act we're hearing is still on, on target. Because before July 4th, I know it sounds crazy. I think it's going to probably happen. There's a lot of stuff, I mean aside from all the stuff with the stable coins and interest and everything, nobody really cares too much about that if you're holding crypto, but we'll get into a little bit of that too. But here's jio. He's from Ripple. He's sort of like. He sort of assumed the position that was vacated by David Schwartz. Although it's not beneficial. David Schwartz was the Chief Tech Officer. JIO is not. But he is, as I heard David Schwartz say that he's the closest thing to his replacement, even though they haven't given him the official title, which I think they should because I love his forward thinking. I love the way he puts his thoughts out there. I love the way he thinks about the ecosystem. I think the guy's brilliant. I followed him before he even joined Ripple. So it's really interesting. Let's talk about. Here's ji. I'll talk it a little right here.
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Industry has recognize that Q Day is. Is no longer uncertain, but that it is coming.
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So I'm Ayo Akinyele, head of engineering for Ripplex. There's been some recent findings about how a sufficiently advanced quantum computer can break
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today's infrastructure as it relates to cryptography
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and we've been trying to be proactive in basically being ready for such an event. And we've put put together a multi phase roadmap to prepare for the event
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of a quantum attack.
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And this is something that is going to take the next few years. It's not just a software upgrade, it's actually a architectural transition of XRPL in
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a way that simplifies the migration for
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the ecosystem, but provides a proactive system set of contingency plans to make sure
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that it's done in a, in a
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straightforward and painless way.
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So it's broken up to three phases
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and a contingency plan phase.
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So the contingency plan phase is essentially
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a way to migrate accounts from what
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we have today to a post quantum safe variant in a way that makes
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it difficult for a hacker that's empowered
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with a quantum computer to steal assets. The three phases that go along with
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that are, you know, first phase to kind of experiment with the standardized signatures
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that work for the post quantum era and making decisions about which one of
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those signatures are appropriate for xrpl.
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And then phase two from that is executing based on the selected signatures and
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integrating that into ledger and proving out
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that it does meet the requirements of XRPL in terms of reliability, security and decentralization. The third phase is really the migration of the entire ecosystem.
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Right.
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And that is what will require a lot of different players in our ecosystem
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collaborating and working together and we'll take feedback and iterate from there. And so that's what I mean by an architectural transition that involves all the
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parties in the ecosystem to make this happen.
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Yeah. And so you're hearing a lot about Q Day. That's quantum day, right? That's quantum. That's the being ready because the quantum computers. Now what's interesting is that the developments in quantum computing has significantly jumped and what they were predicting two, four, five, six years ahead of time. As we've seen with AI, it's coming probably a lot faster than what people think, although we don't who really knows. But even the advancement that Google's made is leaps and bounds. So as new tech grows and I imagine that AI will also help the advancement of building a quantum computer. What does that mean? That means that you can build a computer that is powerful enough to break cartography and you're talking about, you know, so making it quantum proof is going to take some architectural changes, which is what, you know, you hear Jay talking about there and he's got the three, they, you know, ripple has this three sort of phased approach to it about migrating accounts, but also making the XRPL quantum ready. Meaning that. And I love the fact that they're thinking about this now. It's also very huge on Ripple X to be thinking in Ripple to be thinking about this in a way that they're being very proactive. Because Jeff, who's out there minding what's going to happen for a post quantum world with bitcoin, right? Most of the dev development work that happened with bitcoin has been done for, you know, years. And so how is that going to, who's going to touch the code that's going to change and make Bitcoin a post quantum ready?
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So that's a good question. You know, unless, unless we see another fork and we haven't. I don't trying to think the last time we saw a bitcoin fork, you know, it's been a little bit in the beginning it was real common, right? You think back, I mean in the big hype craze and, and a little bit before. But you know, there's all this talk, oh you got to fork it. There's all these difference opinion and you had bitcoin diamond, bitcoin cash, you had all these different bitcoins that were spin offs. So how do you, how do you prepare? You know, and that's a great question. Can you prepare? Can you make the change? Do you have to fork? Do you have to, you know, have a whole new, you know, bitcoin focus that becomes quantum Bitcoin and can bitcoin be hacked by a quantum computer? Which I think has been a discussion for, for ongoing time, what Ripple is talking about is really critical because of the infrastructure, because of what they're doing, specifically working with big financial institutions and making sure that their ecosystem is hack proof and moving into a new quantum reality, then yes, you know, for them it's going to be mission critical. Are there any other crypto based companies that, that are foresighted like this that are, are looking out for all of the different elements that have to be stacked into it? And then you know, what does this mean for the industry as a whole? Because can Ripple do it on its own? Does it create other use cases, does it create other narratives or paths for people to develop and build in support of a quantum reality? What does that payment infrastructure look like? Because in general, you know, if we start thinking about what a quantum reality could mean for any potential hack of any financial institution, credit cards and beyond, what does that actually mean? That what does that specifically mean for entrepreneurs and giving them opportunities to start structuring and building? Now, we just saw Chip yesterday and you, you referenced it, which was Facebook, Fable 5 and Mythos being yanked off of Claude mainly because of the government reaction to, well, we can't have foreign interference and you can't allow foreign actors to use this technology. And so they're digging into what that really references. Now. We're already at a level then potentially, at least from a government perspective, that there's software available at retail that could be dangerous. Right. So if that's the situation, how far away are we then, you know, from quantum realization? You know, we're not even there yet, but there's already, you know, these opportunities for bad actors to influence X, whatever that might be. And we have to beware. So entrepreneurs are going to grow and, and build out of this. But companies like A Ripple and beyond have to prepare themselves also. I want to see others talk about this. I, you know, I haven't really seen a lot of commentary from other crypto focused businesses that are saying, hey, yeah, we're actually concerned about hacking and quantum proofing. It just, you know, they're just maybe not there yet.
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Ripple, well, there's a lot to protect. And again, it's better to be thinking about it now. Who knows if it's five or ten years off, but if you don't start thinking about it when it happens, you won't have time to think about it. It's like it's gonna be that quick. And so moving right along here, let me go ahead and cue this next one up here. This is AI agents, Jeff. So we kind of teased this. We're seeing a lot about the AI agents and people are saying that like, you know, two, three, four years, it'll be all agents interacting with other agents. Right. There's already websites where agents can talk to agents, agents can do things, but in this sense we talk. We played that clip from Tom Lee the other night where he said that because of AI, AI is going to need blockchain for payments. It's going to need this indelible record. It's going to need. And blockchain is perfectly suited because of the advancements with AI. And I love his take because a lot of people are talking about this over here. A lot of noise. You got someone like a Tom Lee saying that the AI, the greatest thing will happen to blockchain, it's going to make advancements to blockchain and especially in the payment ecosystem, which we always talked about being adopted but these AI agents that will be able to do things and you know agentic meaning can work on your behalf. Of course you got to give it limits but the fact that it can actually do things and make payments is what makes the payment sort of economy start getting to the mass adoption and this is a, this is a narrative that a lot of people are missing. Ripple X put this post on X saying AI agents are the beginning to transact, pay for services and settle value. This is key autonomously. Today we're introducing the XRPL AI Start starter kit. This is tools and integrations. We talked about this the other night. This is important. You got the XRPL Docs NCP server. All that is is a connector right as you are. It's like a router. You plug one thing in and then you can go out to many if you're using like a CLAUDE or, or if you're using, let's say you know, you know, OpenAI if you're using codecs, you got to be able to connect to multiple sources and it allows, so you have a connector and that's all an MP NCP server is. It allows you to connect. So now you got this connection, the XRPL and you like. They've also released Claude skills for doing recreation and if you know how to use how CLAUDE works, skills is a large part. You're not necessarily prompting it the skill. You can say hey, create this wallet using this slash, whatever skill and from that you're able to then go ahead and create. So what does this do? What does this really mean? Well, for the masses it means that if you had an idea about the XRPL and said hey, I've always wanted to build X, well good news is you don't need to hunt for a developer anymore. You can actually build it yourself. And that's, you know, Jeff and I have been building for months now furiously building stuff. I'm just finishing up an app for the App Store. I finished up a website the other day and you know, Jeff's building some heavy infrastructure stuff that he can probably talk more about. But it's mind blowing stuff. It's stuff that it would have taken hundreds of thousands of dollars to create in teams of people that you're able to do yourself. So I would take, you know, take a real strong look at a kit like this and then there's the X402 support and that's the agent to agent payments. So you can use, you know, between XRP RL USD if you had an idea and Said, I've always wanted to build this, or I always, always wonder how come this doesn't exist. Well, good news is you can go build it yourself.
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I think this is, this is really critical, you know, at this point because we have opportunities and it's something that, you know, I'm researching on my own, you know, just trying to figure out what is like the next thing that people want to use. How can, how can we be impactful with that? You know, just within, you know, my business, you know, working with, with AI and trying to figure out how can you simplify, you know, infrastructure, which is, I think probably, you know, the, the million dollar question. And a lot of companies are facing infrastructure kind of streamline workflows where you have too many, there's too many inputs, too many places to turn to, places for information. AI is introducing, you know, an easier mechanism or at least a solution to, to start piecing all the dots together into one unified solution. And if you think about all the different major inputs that you have, typically to unify, it's a custom build, you know, to start. And we have a lot of sources that are pulling data, analyzing and, and providing reports and so you have to bring it all into one location. And that's one of the things I've been working on. But from the payment perspective, it's really interesting because payments, especially within the agentic side is just beginning. And so those that understand or, and there's a lot of bright people out there that can start connecting these pieces and they can use technology like that, that Ripple just put out there and having that starter kit, go build something, go figure it out, put it into AI, spend the extra resource and money on, on, on the higher end plans within Claude, and then start leveraging what this actually means. And I can almost guarantee, you know, what a lot of people out there can do. It's all about kind of a brain trust, right? So if we can get as many ideas into the forefront because there's a lot of people that, that have ideas that they just had, they don't have the technical tools to present it, they don't have the software background to take idea to actual reality. Whereas then you have all these brilliant people, let's say like a David Schwartz or something, they stumbled on a good idea, they had the knowledge, they actually were able to build it. And so, and then we see the infrastructure that starts being developed around it. But there's tons of people out there that have these ideas, they just don't have the resource to figure out it's like, hey, how do I, how do I get the technical part of it? I think this could be an amazing thing. If I could just sit down with a technical person and have a technical partner to bring it to reality. That'd be amazing. Well, guess what? You have AI just sitting there waiting for these kind of inputs and there's I, I think AI is also building at such a fast pace. Soon it's going to be out of reach for most people. You know, just my opinion, you know, I hear people, I hear people talking about, oh, you know, anyone's going to build an app soon, anybody's going to build a website soon. You know what, you know what I say to that? Because just the experience that I've seen myself and the, and the experience that you've been running into trying to get the, the app to reality and now also seeing the complexity at which these programs are developing and building up. Before it was simple and now they are starting to add layers and it, there's a lot of simplification to it, but they're definitely starting to add layers to make it more complex. But then if you have a comp, if you have something like a Hyper Agent or you know, Hyper Agent is an amazing tool, does amazing, can do amazing things. So the question is like how do we start interfacing with all of this and at what level, you know, what, what solutions chip go away to where we say, hey, we don't need the app anymore. I don't need, I don't need Microsoft anymore. I just had my agent build it, I asked it for an Excel spreadsheet. Boom, it just produced it, right? I don't need it. You know, where, where are we in this? And this is all relevant because of what Ripple is focused on with Quantum, what they're focused on with Agentic Payments. All of these things are coming, coming into play right now. It's, it's such a massive question chip. I, you know, just throwing it out there but. Well, what are, what are your thoughts on that? Like, I think it's huge.
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I actually think that it's going to get simpler and I think what, what I have seen done with Claude Fable is that you can one shot things. So used to be that the more prompting the skill MD files for the memory style, all that kind of things you needed, it's sort of changing because like with Claude Fable you could one shot stuff and it actually says in the official docs that you want smaller prompts. So as I was putting my prompt together, realized it was getting out of hand. I was gonna run it yesterday, I wish I would because I would have one shot at this website that I need to get done. And so now that the government shut it down, I don't, who knows when that's coming back. But when I was watching what people were doing a lot of YouTube videos on it. But what I've noticed is that it's going to get easier for people. I think it's going, you know, I think what happens is that you're going to get a lot of mediocrity, flooding ecosystems. So but where the benefit's going to come in is somebody who starts a SaaS which is a software as a solution SaaS based thing where you're paying a monthly. Everything that you pay monthly is usually SaaS based and enterprise. It got real big in 2008, 2009, 2010. A lot of companies cropped up. I think there's a lot of profit margin in it, but you need big teams to execute. We don't need that anymore. What I'm seeing, I saw a guy put out a post on x, he had 10 things listed that were all open source, which were copies. You could go ahead and go to the GitHub, you could basically download it and have that program that you're paying 60 or $100 a month for, for free. And on the enterprise side, you know, when I sold enterprise software my entry point was a hundred grand, two, three, four, five hundred thousand dollars on enterprise. So which is a lot of money. But these are, these are enterprises that are 5 billion and above, right? That's who I sold to. And I sold to people that common names, you know, that are in the ecosystem. You know, DTCC was one of my, was one of my customers and you know, they need really strong software. So is this buy versus build mentality is also changing. I think that it was a little bit of a barrier maybe six, eight months ago. I think not so much anymore. The bottom line is do they want to, do they want to have the overhead or they just want a solution where they know they got a team of 300 working on it and they know that any, you know, because you got to constantly mitigate any risk with AI and all kinds of stuff. So there's a lot of other trade offs, not just the buy versus build, it's the maintaining that is the hard part like keeping it up, making sure things are breaking on the back end, that there's overhead that goes with anything. So I think with, with AI we're going to see a lot of things. But with these tools that are released by, you know, Ripple X I think is going to really be a game changer. You're going to see a lot more, I'm already starting to see a lot more people build on the XRPL and they're using AI to do it. So Ripple comes out with this post here that Ripple and Bitso expanded their partnership. Bitso's regulated MXN backed stablecoin which is called mxnb. It's now going to be issued on the xrpl. It's going to be integrated into Ripple's payment on the DEX infrastructure and it will support enterprise stablecoin settlement across the America. So together with our USD MXNB bringing regulated USD and MXN liquidity and that's the key thing, liquidity to the XRPL's permission. Dex, that's the decentralized exchange. The very first one that ever existed was built on the XRPL and it helps real world enterprise payment flows. And you're starting to see all this amazing good stuff crop up. You know, XRPL Commons, put this out, check this out. Make waves on the XRPL this summer. So you've got three months to do one thing, Jeff. And what is that? You got to build something new and get people using it. The best projects walk away with cash prizes and an optional path to our incubator. I like this approach, Jeff, because generally you say like, hey, I got a project. You got, did you build an mvp, minimal viable product project, you know, product rather. Yes, I have now with AI and stuff people, yeah, it already works. It's already processing payments. So they're going to go ahead and kick off a two day technical deep dive in the XRPL. It's going to happen on June 22nd if you're thinking about it. If you're a builder out there. Build it, ship it, grow it. That's it. Build it, ship it, grow it. So if you can get something off, you can find a way into the accelerator project. But again, you know, this is a great thing. I love the fact that this, this whole making the waves thing is cool. This is the summer on the xrpl. Go ahead and make some waves. Build it, ship it, grow it. I love this, Jeff.
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It's awesome. Very cool.
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You're starting to see a lot more custom stuff out there for people. Ripple. Check this out. This is interesting. Fortune magazine said we're not at the end of crypto but rather at the start of a new beginning where rights for fortunes. Jeff. John Roberts, XRP has been recognized in Fortune magazines inaugural Fortune 100, which all focuses on the crypto side of things. It's a ranking of the most influential projects that shape on Blockchain. And then here's the article right here. So if you pop over here, Jeff, you can see meet the. Meet the. You know, the. The 400 here. Here we go. And there it is. Let's see. Where is the whole small print? There's confident. Is this the press release? What? Is this the presser? Where's the actual 100? Does this sit right here? I clicked over to the Fortune 100. I don't. Where is the actual. It's weird that. Let me. There we go. The other link didn't work, but here you go. Here are the projects right here. Let's see, so you got, obviously, Coinbase, they got Base up there. Binance, Kraken, Anchorage Digital, OkX, got the big guys up front. This is Cefi, right? This is Crypto. First, companies, exchanges, lenders, custodians. Right? You got the Trade five, of course, Franklin Templeton, who they leverage, the xrpl, JP Morgan Chase, they've got their own coin. Got the nasdaq, Goldman Sachs, all the familiar players you used to see in Standard Chartered, cme, you know, bank of New York, you know, Citigroup. Then you got the fintechs, you know, the stripes, the visas, the paypals of the world. You also see, yeah, Master Cards in there, Etoro's in there, Another exchange, the D5 side. Hyper liquid, Ave, Lido, Uniswap, Pancake Swap. I haven't heard that a long time. Morpho your VCs, obviously. Andries and Horwinds. A16Z up there you got Paradigm, Dragonfly. These are all the names you see over and over. Pantera, Sequoia, the big guys that you see everywhere that are financing these crypto projects, the stable coins.
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Well, why is there no RO either?
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Didn't make it, Jeff.
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Where's usdc?
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What's funny is World, World Liberty Financials in there. And that's the. That's basically the Trump Boys project. You got Gemini up in there, Society Generale. So you got, then Crypto, you got Moonpay, consensus, alchemy ledgers in there for crypto services, DATs and ETFs, of course. Course, all the familiar players there, yes. Fidelity, World 21, shares, Mining. There's all the mining companies right there. It's all pretty much bitcoin. Might be some other ones in there. Then you got the blockchain protocols and the Ethereum There you go. And that's the one where you see xrp, see Avalanche, Sui Polygon is number six. Yeah. Of course Bitcoin's one. Of course Ethereum's number two. But then you got Salon. It's all ranked by, you know, popular. Then Chain Link is in there as well. I'm glad to see Sui in there. I think Sui is going to do big things and then Z Cash, Arbitrum, a lot of stuff in there. But it's cool that they're putting this list together. It's good. I'm not surprised at all. Jeff, you're shocked about that whole thing. So you know, Jeff, it's been funny, it's been said so, so many times. This next clip is from Hugo Fillion and I am happy to say that Jeff and I can absolutely say that next Saturday will be on the chain with us here at 8am he's coming on the chain, very excited about it. Got confirmation yesterday that he will be here. It's going to be a great hour if you guys want to join to
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learn more about flair.
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So we're going to dive into some cool stuff. We'll get into some other stuff, fun stuff we. You normally do that you won't see anywhere else. We bring the human element to. We'll bring our edge, we'll bring some questions, we'll have a bit of fun with it, but also seriousness too. We've been big fans of the project since day one. But this is an interesting observation, Jeff and one we probably, we, we get it on what he's saying here. But what I think is funny about this is he so spot on with this statement right here. Listen to this and tell me if this is not funny as hell, why
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was XRP fight the focus?
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I think two reasons.
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One is we saw.
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I've always been interested in xrp.
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I think their solution for payments has broadly been in the right direction. I think they got unlucky with the regulations, to be honest with you.
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I think what's hilarious is that most of you know, when XRP and, and
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Ripple kind of started out, they were accused of being, you know, the banker coin. And yet now, now everyone in the entire industry desperate to be the banker coin.
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You know, it's, it's pacific really, but,
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you know, so I think they have a good solution. I think they've always been relatively true to that solution and I think they
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have a very vocal community. We were always interested in X. How funny is that? That is so spot on. They were like the bitcoin Maxis, that's XRP is the bankers coin. Now everybody including how excited was the bitcoin maxis when XRP the banks would start talking. I mean you know bitcoin the banks like everybody now wants to be the bankers coin. They all want the banks to use their blockchain. Right. So how spot on is that? Yeah, it used to be a bad word right now.
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Now it's the now it's the objective. Well as soon as they realize that banks aren't going anywhere and bitcoin's not actually replacing banks and bitcoin actually can't replace banks, that that infrastructure won't make it that you still need banks regardless of all the crypto in the world that you still need an intermediary from a security perspective to connects all the retailers with the, with the B2B and everything else. So that's it. Now it's like hey how do we, how do we embrace this? And it goes back to the old adage that we always talk about which came first to the crypto companies buy banks or do the banks buy crypto companies? And I still, we, we still haven't seen the end of that yet. There's lots of money, right? They're blending but we're going to start seeing big buyouts. I think they are blending. They're starting to use their technology. But eventually, yeah, eventually the banks are going to be all crypto. I mean that's it. At least the back end. It's all blockchain. It has to be. You know the legacy banks, they can
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fight all the one but they're not going to lose. Look at this Joe. Buddy says I didn't do it, my agent did it. Well there's a big lawsuit, a public company which I will not mention but that's exactly what happened Joe. They, the company's being sued, there's a class action lawsuit against it. And how it goes like this is that their hiring practices, the AI was filtering out. If you were 40 or over, you never got seen by a recruiter. So they were filtering out. Anybody 40 years old or older got filtered out. And this was somebody to uncover this and discovered that they tested it and it turns out that it was spot on. So they went to the company. The company said the official statement was we were using an AI platform. We had no idea it was just AI. It wasn't us that we had, we didn't. And they said sorry, judge said sorry that you're responsible for everything that happens in your org and if you don't know what your AI is doing. That's a bigger problem type of thing. So how funny is it that, you know, I mean, talk about age discrimination. I mean, 40s, not like 40 is like really that old. You want a 40 something year old in your organization that has good 15, you know, 20 years of experience behind them. But no, 40 and over, you're out. You know, like Logan's that old movie in the 70s, Logan's Run. You turn 29, you're dead. You hit 30, we kill you. We can't have old people running around. It's like it can't happen. It just cannot happen. Jeff, did you see this? I did.
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Ripple. No matter who won the Congressional baseball game, we're on team clarity. Whether it's baseball or digital assets, the rules matter. Clear rules of the road, support, responsible innovation and US Leadership.
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I don't know. That didn't land on me really that well. Going out with one, it's just, it was, it was just, it was cringy to me. I get it. It's a good PR stunt. It wasn't ripped. It was a bunch of people there at the game that had these. I was just like, you know, man, I'm just. Sometimes you try too hard. It just doesn't land right.
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That was. Yeah, that was a lot of stuff.
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We tell jokes here, Jeff. Sometimes they land and sometimes it's like a fart in church. You know what I mean? It just doesn't, it doesn't go over that well. It either lands or it doesn't. But anyway, we're going to get into our. We're going to leave our. We got so much to talk about. What's going on in the world? What's. We're going to talk a little bit of what happened yesterday, but interestingly enough, Jeff, yesterday you and I were celebrating the United States opener in la. The United States men's team won their first World cup game in spectacular fashion four to one over Paraguay. And they didn't spectate. Now, if you look back to the. The last championship that happened for South America, Paraguay beat Brazil handedly. Okay. They also beat some other great, you know, South American team. So this wasn't, oh, it's some crappy team. I don't think they expected it to go the way it went. But the US has never scored four goals in a. And. And there's never been one player with two goals since like 1936. And again, funny enough, it was against Paraguay, but interesting, a good development. It was a fun game to watch. The goals Were spectacular. I mean corners, I mean just beautiful beaten people. It was just. And there was actually one goal taken back because of all sides. And what I want the reason I'm talking about that and bringing that up because something interesting. So that I hear from a lot of you, my European friends, how come the US Isn't good at football? You know, we call soccer here, thanks to the British. The British coin that stupid term, not us. But so why aren't. Well, here's why. Let me explain it to you like in an easy way. There's called the National Football League, American football. Okay? You can be a scrub, you can be a guy that never sees action and you're making a million dollars a year, okay? If you're a good quarterback like a Josh Allen, you're making $58 million a year, a year to go up and show up and play, okay? If you are in the NBA, you're making 10, 15, $20 million. You know, if you're a scrub, you make over a million dollars. You never see action. They might put you in because a guy got hurt, right? Let's go to the NHL. Same thing. Big contracts in the NHL. You know baseball. These guys get paid a lot of money to play baseball. Now that little tiny fragment hanging out on the bottom corner are the guys that have the passion. The guys that played it since they were three years old. The guys that play it for the love of the game. Because you will see that NFL players played soccer in high school, they played it in college, they played it on college winning teams. But they didn't go professional because they would go for the money grab. You make a hundred thousand, two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars a year, the coach and, and thank God the U. S got, finally got a great coach. He's for. He's former Tottenham coach. He's. He's a phenomenal coach. He started in 24, he's a solid coach. Now here's what's interesting about this. This here. Love hearing nuggets like this. The U. S Men's team coach, Mauricio Pochettino was. And I always botch his name was only hired because hedge fund billionaire Ken Griffin and others helped cover his salary worth millions of dollars. Why? Because they couldn't get a coach like this. The coaches they had were scrubs and they sucked. And I've hated every US men's coach maybe since the 90s and just really bad. But here it is right here. They worked out a deal that would allow Pochettino the several million dollars annually a deal Was supported in significant part by philanthropic Ken Griffin, the founder and CEO of hedge fund. What's his hedge fund? I can't think of what his hedge fund is right now. I'm CME Group. Yeah. So, I mean, how amazing is this that you've got. And if it wasn't for that, they wouldn't have. And I was funny because I was watching him on the sidelines. I always think he's looked like Russell Crowe's little brother. I'm like, is this Russell Crows like, little brother? Is that sort of Russell Crowe facial structure? And I was watching it with a bunch of buddies, and they're like, is really. Is that true? I'm like, no, no. But just look at him. He looks a little like Russell Crowe, right?
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He's like, you know, look at this question. Did the US Win last night?
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Hell, yeah, they did.
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Four.
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One baby or one crushed them. Spectacular. Go back and watch the highlight. God, what a. It felt like they were toying with them at times, especially in the last three minutes of the game. They were just. And I'm like, the funny part about that was they. They could have probably. Well, they put that last goal in, right? But they could have probably put one or two more goals in. They kind of just laid back a little bit, and then towards the second half, they kind of just, you know, right after the hydration break, they sort of went into a preserve. But then that last goal, it ended on. I think they had seven minutes of extra time. They ended it. It was just spectacular fashion. That last goal was a freaking awesome goal, too.
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It was. It was great. It was great watching it. Especially on the heels of the. Of the Vegas Carolina hockey game on Thursday night following the Knicks win.
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That next game was insane, Jeff. I mean, coming back from 29 points, that was just un. Unbelievable. I. I loved watching that game was phenomenal, man. Especially like, that tip in. You had, like, less than 2 seconds left, and then they.
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In.
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They inbounded it and got a hand on it. It's just incredible. Spectacular fashion. I tell you what, it's something else. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second.
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Got so bored, it leaves the venue.
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That's another. There's. There's reason number two. That why you say, oh, how come nobody good? Because of this right there. That's why. Because people are like, it's boring of many people.
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Yeah.
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First of all, to me, I. Because I. I grew up playing it. I was a keeper. I. I loved it. I watch every. I watch as much World cup as I can. I Watched the Premier League. I watched. I love watching it. I don't watch it as much as I did when I was younger because I'm really busy these days. But I have to tell you, and Jeff's a big fan too. Jeff's always at a pub watching, you know, the Premier League and, And, you know, so, I mean, I grew up playing the game. I love the game. To me, what's exciting about it is there's no stoppage, dude. It's just non stop. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, the defense, like watching the strategy of a game unfold, watching the momentum change. To me, I think it's one of the most exciting games. I get bored watching baseball. I like hockey, but I can only take so much of it. I. I do like it. There's too many games I can't watch. Same with baseball. I watch a lot of baseball games with my buddies. Yeah, NBA has become a really bad sport. It used to be a die hard NBA guy. I can't watch it anymore. It's gotten so bad, the level of play. But I love NFL. I love American football. I love it. I freaking love it. And yeah, there's a lot of fun to play too. And you know, either if you're really into it, you watch it and you, you know, people might say it's boring. I like the fact there's no stoppage time. Every other sport, a commercial, this or that part.
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Yeah, soccer, it's just, boom, 45 minutes, baby.
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Just give it to me. And then the extra time. So anytime they stop, blow a whistle, I don't know, they randomly just arbitrarily. Usually it's three minutes,
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eight minutes. Where did eight minutes come from?
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But I have to tell you, Jeff, this thing annoys a chance. With international, with international soccer, when they, when usually they'll blow an offside as soon as it happens. When you're mid pitch and you have an offsides, but you let the play go until they score a goal, and you're like, oh, sorry, you were offsides mid pitch. You know, it's like, what? What are you talking about? How is that possible? That pisses me off every time. Like you would just, boom, raise the flag. But no, they let the play, let it play on, which is weird. Just blow the whistle, it's offsides, call it when it happens. And I saw a lot of stuff last night. I know that they have this electronic stuff now, but I saw a lot of offsides. Even the U.S. men's team was offsides. You're like, please don't put that in the back of the net because that wasn't offsides. It was missed. It's, you know, and then they. You know, my buddies, who aren't really that big into football, and they're like, your soccer. I'd say they go like, hey, why isn't he put? I go, dude, they'll be off sides. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, why isn't he advancing? Why? He'll be off sides. And then one of the guys, there was a FIFA rap, and he's not obvious.
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That's the problem.
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It's not obvious. That's true. But if you. If you really, like, watch the game, you know. You know, and it was funny because one of the guys was there. He used to be a FIFA raft. And he's like. He's like, oh, my God. Because he was telling us, like, rules, and you can do this, you can do that. And the other guys were looking at him like. And he's like. And then he's like, yeah, I used to be a FIFA rest. He's like, oh, okay, now we got an expert in the House. But before he said that, he was just a guy just commenting on the game, hanging out. It's like. Just like, oh, because there's smarty pants over here, you know?
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Yeah, I think there was. There was some partnerships with Algorand. I think it was. Manu was using Algorand to release NFTs. If you had their app, which was interesting.
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Now, what's it you want to talk about? Interesting. So yesterday you had the SpaceX IPO. Okay. I think people think, right? And the. And the. And here's the thing, Jeff. The entire left. This is why the Democrats are mentally ill. They don't want that. The government's supposed to tell you if you can be successful, you can't be successful on your own. You can't have less regulation to be able to be massively successful without fail. Everywhere on the Internet yesterday, every Democrat was melting down. And especially you're hearing about a Trump ally cannot do well. How can a Trump ally do so well? Well, here is the fake Indian who pretended to be an Indian her whole life to gain status and get a $400,000 job teaching at Harvard. Here is the fake Indian, Pocahontas herself, Elizabeth Warren, melting down. Because how can Elon Musk. And the people are saying, like, how can you make so much money? How. If you can't spend all that money and they don't even realize that this is stock, you can't it's not liquid money.
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Right?
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Elon Musk doesn't say, I'm selling everything tomorrow and get my trillion dollars and then I'm gonna put it in the bank. That's not how it works. Like, they've never built anything, Jeff. They've never done anything with their lives. We're gonna play the hypocrisy here because. Yeah, she always shows up. She's the dumbest human on the planet. It's hard to tell anymore. There's so many. Mentally.
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There's a lot of dumb people in watching.
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I mean, her and aoc, I mean they have. AOC is like a top candidate. You got Gavin Newsom. His whole, his whole state is burning down. He's like, everything's great. You know, it's like, we're fine. Everything with the little, the little dog with everything burning in the background. Here's the fake Indian.
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Listen, evaluation. They, they opened at 150. They said they were open at 135. It opened at 150, shot up to 170, closed at 160 after hours, went back up to 170. I have no idea what the PE valuation was. I don't think anybody that bought. Actually, I heard about the pe.
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No, I don't think so. People are like, SpaceX, I think it's another Nvidia stock. I think it's gonna, it's gonna be big. I think 3, 4, 500 overnight. No, but depending. I mean, SpaceX is not even in the business of, of data centers. And then you've got a 980 million dollar deal a month they cut with Google. They cut a billion dollar deal a month with Anthropic for storage. So you got $2 billion coming in a month. 24 billion. I'm sorry, $24 billion. And that's not even what they do. $24 billion right there coming in the coffers. Because Elon Musk is officially the world's first trillionaire. Think about that. Celebrate, right? Think about it. That should be celebrated. Oh my gosh. A man finally became a trillionaire. Oh, no, not fake Indian. Pocahontas. We're living in a time when more and more people are just hanging on by their friends fingernails to survive in this economy. And Elon Musk, the Democrats did so much to advance businesses and help businesses, and they crushed small businesses and made them shut down during the pandemic. Right? This fake Indian mental patient has more money and more wealth than anyone in human history. That should be celebrated. Fantastic. Oh, no. Here's a that made 400, $400,000 a year pretending she was Indian. Does she look Indian? My God, she's whiter than any white person I've ever seen in my life. You could take a dart into a crowd and hit somebody and they have more Indian and American Indian than this woman does. And she should have been shouted out of Congress because she appropriated someone else's culture and race. And she said because her mama and her papa said she had high cheekbones. Oh, that was why you were Indian. I want to be clear. This is not just some fluke. It is a feature of a rigged economy. Donald Trump's big beautiful bill cut health care for millions of Americans to give guys like Elon bigger tax breaks. The tax code rewards CEOs for firing workers and replacing them with AI. Loopholes have allowed Jeff Bezos to pay an effective. It's hard enough to listen to her voice, but to look at her at the same time. Jeff, It's a lot. It's a lot to take in. Liz Warren needs to go back to ducking down beers on a TV show to tell us how much a working person she is. Yeah, she never built anything. She never built anything. She's worth, they say close to 60, 80 million dollars. She never volunteers her own money. She wants to raise taxes on everyone else, but she never, she never checks that box on the first page of your tax return that says, how much extra money would you like to give the government? She gives zero extra money. She, she wants everybody else to be penalized. She's got more money than most Americans have and she's worried because Elon Musk has more active tax rate. Everything she's saying here is false. There was no health care. It was dead. People laying off because of AI that's not 100% true. They're laying off because they over hired in the pandemic. They needed people to cover and they don't need those people anymore because of efficiency. So because AI is taking jobs, they, they're against it. This is the anti everything Democrats and a Boston public school teacher. And we are left with a country where a handful of billionaires at the top pop Champagne in their 300. We're left with a country where the opportunity has never been more vast in the entire history of the world. And it's locked down under this witch's brew over here.
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But I like how she talks about the $300 million yachts, yet she wants to, you know, mingle with all the Hollywood elite. You know, the Hollywood elite. That's all they do. That's all they do. They're just out there partying on their, their big yachts with their, you know, thousand dollar champagne bottles or, you know, whatever, you know. But she doesn't have anything to say about them. And they also, what, what do they actually do other than cause problems nowadays?
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Yeah, exactly. She's, you know, it's hard to get through this, but only a little bit more. Let's go. Million dollar yachts. While working people take on even more shifts to try to pay off their student loan debt. The top 1% of US earners now have more wealth than the entire middle class. We need to overhaul our tax code.
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We need a wealth tax. And it's about time.
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That corporations fair share.
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That corporations are paying.
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Here we go with the fair share.
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How much money? Right today's it's such a communist narrative.
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Wake up call. Enough is enough. Time to make change.
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This is time to get rid of these people.
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Bastards out of office because you are mental, you're mentally ill. There's never been more opportunity for people in the world. Thank God to AI. I mean, AI has transformed my business, Jeff. AI is transforming your business. It's. It's making accessible everything accessible. You know what's always funny? It's like there was a day when I was growing up, the guy lived around the corner from us. I had the chance to go work for him when I was a kid. He took me in, gave me a job, was a mentor to me. And I looked up to this guy because he was massively successful. Everything he touched turned to gold. He got into real estate. Well, guess what? He needed someone to go paint all his houses he bought. I put together a crew and I became his painting crew. In the summertime. He needed people to go, you know, he ran a car dealership. He needed people to go buy eight cars. Instead of hiring a car thing, he sent me, I heard eight of my friends, we got in my car, we went over and we picked up the cars wherever they needed to be. Like, this is who the guy was. Now these kind of guys that are celebrated want to be taken down. The envy, the stuff that's a very bad place for you to live in envy. And if you're not looking, I look up to a guy like Elon Musk. I don't care if you like his politics or not. He saved the freaking free world by buying X. That wasn't something he needed to do. It was. He's losing money. Still, he had to do it because he now there's Ideas that are being expressed so much never be, it's never become more 44 billion. It's never become more exciting than a time. So what they're really mad about is the fact that their influence is weaning. What they're, what they're really mad about is like in Peru when you get some, a woman who wins the election and she's touted as the daughter of a, of a dictator, right? This kind of stuff, this is the kind of stuff that the narratives that play out and she's hardcore conservative. You saw what just happened in Chile, you saw what happened in Argentina. You see the move that's happening to conservatism all over the world. You got, France is going down, the UK's down, Germany is going down. Like they're getting all new leadership. The rise of the AfD party, the Reform party in, in the UK it's the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their ideas don't work and aren't gaining anything and they're being slapped like little that they are, Jeff, and they have
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to be, they have to be slapped. These people are, are so off the rails that they don't speak for, for you know, everyday people. They speak for their, their little circle of crazy people that seem to have the microphone and the cameras right now, but not for long. These lefty loon, pink hair, bright purple hair, nut job people that are supported by and support people like an Elizabeth Warren. You know, their time is really limited. They might have California, they might have New York City, but you know what? The people there are going to suffer. I, I can't wait. I, you know, it's, it's the worst thing to say. But the brain drain and the money drain right now out of New York City and out of California is the greatest thing ever. You know why? Because West Palm beach is growing at a pace like no one's ever seen before. It upsets the people there locally, it upsets the people in Miami and the people in Fort Lauderdale to see the amount of growth because it's changing the dynamics. But at the same time, Palm beach is now the, the Wall street of the South. Miami has all the big tech companies and, and financial institutions, as does Palm Beach. That's the problem. You know, these people like Elizabeth Warren and the rest of them, they're going to keep talking, they're going to keep spewing their nonsense and guess who's the benefactor? Everybody in the South. Why? Because New York, it has the pot, has the potential. Not saying it will exactly become, but if you Went to New York in the 70s or in the 80s. Wasn't such a safe place. Right. It took time for it to turn around. Now imagine you take all the money and all the companies and all the big, you know, the big.
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Yeah.
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Billionaires, and you send them south. Now New York has nothing to fall back on, and that's what you guys voted for up there. And so now imagine New York becomes Detroit. Detroit after the riots. And we said this the last time Coleman Young told people, you don't like, you get the out. And you know what they did? They left. They took their businesses, they took their money, they took their families, and they left their homes and they didn't care. They left them. They didn't sell them. They just left them. And they. And they moved and they became vacant properties. And that's why there's hundreds, if not thousands of vacant homes in Detroit still burned down. Half whatever vacated. But Detroit years. 60 years to start coming back. 60. It wasn't. If it wasn't for the Quicken Loans guy, whatever his name is. I forget his name, but if it wasn't for him driving the. The frenzy to start building in Detroit again, Detroit wouldn't have come back. Now imagine you do LA and you do New York City and you have the brain drain, the finance drain and all of this. These guys, Dan Gilbert, they're gonna suck. Dan Gilbert, these guys are going to suffer like they've never experienced before. Not again. Not saying it's 100% secure, because I think people want to fight for New York City. They don't want to just let it fall into ruins and go back to a 70s, 80s, but it has the potential because the money is leaving and the people are leaving. And again, the South. But the Elizabeth Warrens and all these people, they could give a. About the. Their people. They're. They're subservient to the banks or whomever they're, you know, they're re. They're answering to, and they don't care. All they care about is power. They want to keep living, you know, as long as they possibly can. So it's such an amazing time to be witnessing this changeover. Even, you know, here. Local, local politics. Zeta meeting finally got people going into city council, and we have people running against everybody at the city council level. And it's amazing. All young people and they're all pissed. They're like, we're millennials. We're sick of it. You know, we're. We're making a change, you know, so all these people are like, you know, late 20s, 30s, and that's it. And they're like, people have been there too long, running, even running. There's you know, one Republican there, got somebody to run against her, you know, Beautiful, right? It's amazing across the board. Get rid of all of them. And these people have been there for decades, you know, at city council levels. So you got to start at the grassroots. You got to go city council, you got to go state, you got to go federal, you got to take it all out one by one, you know, and then you get rid of the Pocahontas's and you get rid of the AOCs because you change it at the grassroots. You change the school boards, you change the city councils, then you change the state representatives make their lives, you know, miserable because they don't represent the people. And then you go, then you go federal, boom, done. And then we change it. Yep.
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You know, I don't remember go to
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New York, but I wouldn't under Mum Domi.
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Yeah, I love this Justine Bateman. I don't know, she's, she back in the 80s she played Mallory Keaton on Family Ties. And I think she's a lefty. I can tell you she's a lefty because I, I follow her and sometimes she hates AI too. She hates AI for production and film and stuff. She says, commenting on Elizabeth Warren video, she said, I feel like she missed the part where all the employees had a piece of the success. Yeah, I feel like that too. And then also on top of that, check out this story. Jeff, you have a welder. He took a $28 an hour job in 2015. It was a company never heard of. On Friday, Juan Hernandez became a millionaire. He spent 10 years building the structures that lifted rockets into the launch pad. SpaceX paid him partly in stock, the way it pays its cooks, machinists, technicians and cafeteria staff. Equity instead of bigger salaries. His ten thousand dollar grant grew into $880,000 at the IPO price the first day pop came past a million. He is 42, an immigrant from Mexico, married, three kids. Says he's keeping the job. He's not the outlier. This is the pattern. 4400 current and former SpaceX employees became millionaires on Friday. One in five people, whoever badged into the company, about 400 of them, are walking away with a hundred million or more. One employee took every cash bonus in stock instead of money. He's sitting on 50,000 shares, which is worth more than $8 million at Friday's prices. And then there's the other side of the cafeteria. Some employees sold their shares years ago, certain the company would never go public because Musk said he hated public markets. A few traded their stock for restaurant gift cards. The New York Times says they're consumed by a regret. Of course they are. Some grant, same grant, same building, same years. One group held the claim, the other ones ate it. None of the other winners touched the money yet. The first selling window opens after August earnings report, and the rest unlocks and waves through December. Underneath it sits the only lesson the market ever teaches. The welder and the gift card came from the same place. The difference was never the work. It was the ownership. Salary pays for the month. Equity pays for the era. A cook in the Brownsville just answered the question every buyer of SpaceX is asking at $170, what is a claim for this company actually worth? The piece prices that exact question at 2.2 trillion. You're looking at a millionaire who became. Who held onto his stock. And by the time. If it goes to 3, 400. Yeah, 4400. Exactly 100. But Elizabeth Warren doesn't care about those people, right? Nobody cares about that. I'll be 62 in two weeks. Jeff.
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No.
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What do you think about that? 62, no retirement for me. More building. No retirement. If I. Jeff. Some days I sit, like, for two weeks doing nothing. I go crazy. I. I don't ever want to be retired. I just want to have freedom to go wherever I want. But I love building. I love the interaction. I don't ever want to retire because I retire, brain dies, check out early. Not happening. My dad used to. I grew up with the story. My dad told me. He says he. There's this guy who was so well liked in the company. He worked really hard. He retired at 65. They had this giant retirement party. Everybody's crying at it. They were so happy. He retired finally. And that guy died the next day. Ain't happening for me. No, no, no, no.
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Look at the bright side.
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Thanks, man. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah, well, that's the bright side of things, but the. The downside of things is, you know, the. The Runway is getting shorter. But that's okay. That's okay. You know, it's just. Jeff's a lot younger than me. I won't say by how much. When I want the doctor age. Jeff, I'm happy to share it here. I don't care who knows. I mean, it's not a.
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You know, I forget how old I am. I'm not that much younger.
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You're A lot. You're. You're. I would give my left. You know what? To be that. To be that. To be your age, Jeff.
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Yep.
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You don't want to dox yourself.
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I don't care.
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Go ahead. Go ahead and see your age. You just got to think about it.
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I think I turned. I turned 55 this year.
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That's nothing, man. 55. I'm seven years old. That's like. That's a big difference. My brother's even. That. Even. My brother's 59. Yeah, it's crazy, man. But that's why we drop these old references, because we're old people. I always remember when I'm around younger people. Don't drop anything older than 15 years. Don't drop it. You can't drop an old Seinfeld quote because it'll look at you like, okay, Boomer. They'll be like, okay, old man. To give you that weird sort of look. Right.
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How about. How about the. How about the new commercial? There's a commercial with the MC Hammer. And I was wondering how many people actually knew MC Hammer. Yeah, I don't know him.
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I think. See those. Those commercials are for boomers.
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They're not for.
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They're not for the younger folk. Ari Fletcher said this, Jeff.
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He said, never for X. Gen X. Because I don't.
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Never forget. Does not want the welders, the cafeteria staff, and regular workers to become rich. They want them on welfare. They want their vote, not their success.
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Exactly right. That's a good statement. Nothing is going.
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Jeff, what do you think Bernie Sanders said about this whole thing? Listen here. Go ahead and read that, Jeff.
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What we gotta read Sanders.
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Yeah, please.
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Elon Musk rise to trillionaire status is not a time to celebrate. Oh, there you go. That's all you. That's all you got to know. What you need to know. This guy is such a. They're all such douchebags. It's a call to action. To take on the unprecedented income and wealth inequality that now exists and the greed and power of a. So. So here's. So here's Elon Musk bought x $44 billion or bought Twitter, saved the. The freedom of speech, built SpaceX, is pushing our country and the space race into a different. Different hemisphere. Right. NASA couldn't accomplish what he's accomplishing, so he's doing it. He built private building and his four. You know, just everything that he's putting into it. And he's creating an entrepreneurial, competitive scenario for the space race because then you have Amazon and You've got all of these different companies, blue origin, all, you know what, they're all stacking up to compete. And so now think about this comment that he's like, oh, the greed and power coming from the most greedy bastard that there is, which is these politicians who are, are milking the American public of every last dot. Because here's an individual that's never worked an honest day in his life, never built a company, never did anything in the public job in the private sector, never had a job, never had a job. And he has the audacity to actually talk about power and greed. Power and greed is directly what he does because he is a lifelong career politician. That's 100% power and greed because he's become wealthy off of the backs of the people. He has contributed zero to society. So you can't respect these people. You can't take what their words. And yet there's people that follow these clowns. That's the most mind boggling. There's people out there that will follow and they'll latch onto every word that these clowns have. But they're, they're clowns in nature. I mean they have a whole, you know, the, the video crowd, or I don't even know what, you know, we can call them now, but they're just mindless drones that want to follow these types of people. Anyone who supports an AOC or an Elizabeth Warren or a Bernie Sanders, these guy, you know, how do you follow clowns? These guys have contributed. All of them, every single one of them have contributed 0, 0 to society.
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Read the Warren.
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You know, it just, it kills me to even try to read through this stuff. Our democracy cannot survive when one man who contributed 290 million to get Trump elected becomes 700 billion richer since his election. What, why does that have, why is that even relevant that our, our, our democracy, our capitalistic society can definitely survive. It's proof that it can survive. Our economy cannot sustain itself when one man owns more wealth than the bottom half of our society. But now the one man with all that wealth is going to be able to boost up the bottom half by giving them jobs and making them wealthy. So when 60 of our people live paycheck to paycheck, when we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major nation, and when our kids will have a lower standard of living than their parents, that's because of the Democrats, by the way. This is not just about wealth. It's about power. Musk and his fellow oligarchs want it all, okay? He's the one who keeps building. He's not asking for handouts and, you know, freebies. Together, we must fight back. We can and must create an economy and a government that works for us all, not just Elon Musk and his fellow billionaires. What a stupid statement. So here again, the one man who's saving our freedoms in this country that's put everything on the line spent $44 billion knowing that he was going to lose money, that he wasn't going to make a profit. When the. When they told him that he was gonna lose his. Lose all of his advertisers, he said, they can go themselves. He couldn't care less. It was all about saving the freedom of speech. And now here is again putting it on the line. Put everything on the line for SpaceX. And you saw that there was possibilities that he was going to lose everything between Tesla and SpaceX and, you know, the amount of money that he had to pour into it to get it to where it's at. And then they're the ones launching payloads up to the space station. I don't see NASA launching payloads. Why? Because they couldn't do it. Because they didn't have the technology to do it. They didn't. They weren't bringing in the bright people. I'm not saying they're not bright, but, you know, you have Elon Musk, that's, you know, these guys are, are just. They're on a different level. And now you want to. You want to punish them. Everybody suffers. In that case, you know, it's amazing.
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He likes to throw the word. Bernie loves to throw the word around. Oligarch. Here's Adam kind of running through that watch. This country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarch. This is from 1993, then you got a 94 clip, then a 95 clip, then a 2007 clip, a 2012, a 2014 up to present day. This is Bernie then. Do nothing, have nothing. Socialist moron. The United States of America today increasingly becoming an oligarchy, moving toward an oligarchy. We are moving in the direction of oligarchy. We will move even more rapidly in the direction of oligarchy. The only thing that's moving is his hairline. Everything else has remained the same. What you can learn from this is the oligarchy doesn't move. But Bernie gets balder as he complains more about the oligarchy. I don't know if there's a connection between balding and complaining about the oligarchy. Then now in 2012, he's fired up about the oligarchy of an oligarchy. This great country, 14 is evolving into an oligarchic society. At least he changed it there it is called oligarchy. And that is the system we are rapidly moving toward. This is a budget that moves through the country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy. A handful. I know what year this is.
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2018 or 19.
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Entire planet toward an oligarchic society. Start off with the bad news, pretty bad. And that is that under Donald Trump, this country is hurtling rapidly toward oligarchy. I don't know. It's great if someone would lean over when he's on his deathbed and just go, bernie, all the you talked about,
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you didn't get anything done.
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You got nothing done. You never employed anybody, you never built anything. All you did was complain the entire time. And for some reason you became a folk hero by just complaining about something and never fixing it.
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Wouldn't it be great if on the day that he passes, three minutes before that thing flies flatlines, we announced that we are now an oligarchic society?
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Like he can finally just rest easy now.
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I think if I was, if I
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was his nurse and he was minutes from dying, I would go, good news, we fixed the oligarchy. And he'd go, what? I'd go, just kidding. See in hell. Enjoy. Just kidding. See you in hell. Look at this, look at Ms. Now. What do you think Ms. Now's take is on this, Jeff? What do you think? She's. What do you take a wild guess what they're going to call Elon Musk because it always devolves into racism of some kind. Right. They don't even know one even understands what racism anymore. Everything's racist. I got some stats that are coming up and they're probably racist. Also, money makes Elon Musk completely unaccountable. And it's so striking that I think
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in the past if you had a
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businessman like Musk who was such an
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out and out white supremacist, who was probably the most.
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That's it, Jeff, He's a white supremacist.
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What just happened?
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He said he's.
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What in the world are we watching? These people are out of their minds. They're so.
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There's an African American, Jeff. Geez, I can't believe she said.
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Significant sort of white nationalist propagandist in
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the world at this point, who in the past there would have been some,
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I think maybe hesitation.
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Yeah.
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But he has so so much money
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that there's not even a sort of pretense that there could be any sort of restraint or accountability. People are insane. And then. And Scott Jennings has to put up with the wackadoodles on CNN. The rabbit the mouth, dumber than dumb. Don't know anything about history. Don't know anything about the Constitution. So Jennings has to sit through this dribble. Listen to this. Checks imbalances in this society. People should not be allowed to have a trillion dollars. People should not be allowed. You see, the government will stop you if the Democrats are. This is what the left is, not just the Democrats. It's the left worldwide. The left knows better than you. The best. Doesn't like crypto because it's decentralized. They want everything centralized. They want to be able to tell you what to do, Jeff. The left wants to tell you and control you. Look, we know better. We're smarter than you. I know, I know that socialism and I know that, you know, communism's never worked anymore, but we, it's never been tried by us. We're going to show you that it fails and fails and fails again. Do you think that, do you think that these ultra wealthy people. I'm not talking about people with 10,
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15, 20, even $100 million.
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I'm talking about people who are approaching a trillion dollars. Do you think that there is more that they should be doing to give back to the societies that helped them get wealthy rich? Elon Musk and Space X benefited from tens of millions of dollars in government
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contracts and deals that allowed them to
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become the company that they are. Should they be doing? Makari, can I. Yeah, Scott, do you think that they should be doing more?
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I think it's up to them. I think that many of them and Arthur mentioned one, they do a lot. But it's not for me or you or any of us here to tell someone else what to do with what they earn.
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Government do that every single day. Taxes.
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Yeah, I know. And the rich people in this country pay the vast majority of taxes. And I hear people today saying, oh, it's time that we tax the rich folks. I got news for you. We already taxed the rich. They paid the vast majority. Attack. And I think Elon Musk is the single largest taxpayer in America and he'll be even bigger now. But is it for us to sit around and say there's a limit on what you can build, there's a limit on what you can earn and it's now my job to tell you what to do again. Your money. Hell no. That's it. I like it. Hell no.
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It's nothing different than what we say here, Jeff. I mean, it's the same. It's the same thing. Okay, so Jeff, this is. Here's another narrative.
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Ellie and Tron said, if Oprah was the first to a trill 1 trillion, would she be saying the same thing? No, she would not.
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No, no. Look at this guy right here. Tetsu says history's first trillionaire is a guy who catches rockets out of the sky with chopsticks and beams Internet to every dead zone on the planet. The same guy ships cars that drive themselves, humanoid robots for the factory floor. Brain chips that leave paralyzed people. Move a cursor with pure thought. An AI running a supercomputer. His team stood up in months instead of years. And the people crashing out about this net worth are doing in the app that he owns on ax. The same people app. The same app the government spent years trying to censor. You can't legislate a rocket into orbit. Of course he's commenting on goofy, goofy ass Bernie Sanders. I mean, what a goofball, man. These people, they're just insane, Jeff. I, I don't even know any other way to say it. They're just, they're. There's some kind of mental illness and I don't know if they're on big pharma drugs. I don't. I kind of don't know what it is. But there's something that's not right with this elite. You've heard of looks Max, right? Look at this. This is Elon Musk, Trillionaire Max. And watch this, Jeff.
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Oh my God.
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Listening. It's like, it's crazy. Yeah, there's like 16 clips here. People just complaining, the Democrats complaining, and Elon Musk dancing in front of him. Right? So he's. He's billionaire maxing right there. The. It's. We've gotten to a point of where it's become so just, gosh, it's been so incredibly taxing. I don't even know what to say. Like, these people are exhausted and once they fix the elections, they're not going to be winning any elections anymore. They'll be like, oh, it's all Trump. Trump fixed the elections. When Trump fixes the elections, there's no more legals voting for them anymore. Guess what, Jeff? It's going to be a much better society because we don't have to deal with these issues. Income. Here's, here's Bridget Gabriel with a very astute Another great on point observation here. Here we go. She says newsome, Sanders, Warren. 3 politicians 0. Companies built combined wealth funded by lobbyists and donor cash. Elon Musk dominated in payments, cars, energy, space, social media, communications, AI. He didn't just succeed, he made America stronger. Now you got new sim says Americans are struggling to pay for groceries and gas while Elon Musk becomes a trillionaire. Yeah, it's. Why are so many people exiting California? The taxes, Jeff. When does the federal government. Yeah, he says the system's rigged. Yeah, it was rigged by you. Trump's trying to fix the damn system, you guys.
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They've done everything they can to corrupt the politics of California to keep those that are elected. We, we've obviously seen with the Spencer Pratt exactly what they've been up to, exactly what they're going to do and what they continue to do. And their taxes are amongst the highest. Their gas prices are amongst the highest in the country because they over tax it. Imagine the, the what the budget is in California versus, you know, and you look at like the budget, let's say for New York City and Florida, you know, all of Florida, just New York City, all of Florida, you know, and it's amazing, amazing what we are able to accomplish in the state of Florida what they can't even accomplish in one city, you know, and it's just, it's because they mismanage their funds. You know, they want to do all these subsidies and all these handouts and receive nothing and nothing in return. No production, no productivity, no building, no nothing.
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Who subsidized Tesla? The Democrats, because they thought, oh, this is the electric car. Well, watch this, Jeff. This IPO hurt California more than anything else. This guy Jonathan Farb says the single tweet that cost California hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes, revenue and jobs. This is Lorena Fletcher, she's a former, she was in the state assembly. She said Elon Musk. And Elon Musk wrote message received. And what did he do in 24? He left California and relocated SpaceX to Texas. And they lost hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes, revenue, jobs. Why? Because they're stupid. It's an AOC thing. Amazon was going to move to in her, in her district was going to make 64,000 new jobs. She started complaining, they're getting tax cuts, they're getting tax cuts. We can't have tax cuts. You can't come in here, you can't bully your way. So you know what? The very ultra liberal Jeff Bezos did said F you. And he Moved to a different state that opened their arms and said, please, we'll give you a hug, give you tax incentives. So guess what New York missed out on. These are the dumbest humans that have a bad, horribly destroyed ideology. And you know what? There's, there's no reasoning with them. We used to be rooks. Reach across the aisle. There's no aisle to reach across. They must be destroyed. This is not a winning mindset because the country was doing so great under Biden with 9.4 inflation percent inflation right when. But Trump, Trump is evil and Trump is this. And it's just gotten to the point, Jeff, where it's just, it's gotten so out of control, I don't even know where you even, where you even start anymore. And you know what it all comes down to, Jeff? It comes down to this. Look at this. New study shows that conservatives are happier than liberals. Mental illness is emerging as its own political identity and most heavily aligned with leftist political ideology and causes. There it is. Beliefs matter. The new study shows widening mental health gap between conservatives and liberals. There's a, there's a lot of truth behind that. And it's funny, Jeff. You know, the conservators are happy, they're with their families. They're making things happen. And you got the liberals that are constantly bitching. The Democrats for 50 years, Jeff, have been bitching about how horrible life is. Nothing's ever done, nothing's ever changed. Why? Why are things so bad? Boohoo hoo. They're always the straw man argument. Obama was the king of the straw man. We're gonna go and we're gonna change everything that's happening. Well, he never changed anything. All he did was make things worse. And he was always, I was like, dude, you're complaining about this. You're the president. You own Congress. For two years. They had all congress. They did nothing. It's funny. Here's another jackass. This is funny because this is the only oil and gas association. Hello, Senator. Let's read the. This is Ed Markey. This is who John Deaton is running against in Massachusetts. Ed Markey has been a senator for more than 50 years. Nobody even knows his name because he's done nothing. Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire while working people struggle to get by. The billionaire class is becoming the trillionaire class. It's disgusting. I'm fighting to tax the rich so we stop rewarding trading stocks over punching clocks. And then the Oil and Gas association said, hello, Senator, this November will be 50 years since you were first elected to Congress. So we want to say, be the first to say happy 50th anniversary of drawing a taxpayer funded salary. What an achievement. In fact, you're the second longest still serving member of Congress. It's been a long time since you've held a private sector job. And yes, 50 years ago in 1976, it was America's bicentennial. That year. People still punch clocks back then. The world has changed a lot. Nobody punches clocks anymore. During the 50 years in Congress, you watched as the creators of inventors and producers changed the world, creating trillions of wealth, millions of new jobs, dramatically raising living standards for everybody, rich and poor alike. And for 50 years you voted to raise taxes and regulate and oversee every move out of the private sector. You've never created or invented or produced, just taxed, regulated and outraged. But thank you for the platform. The trillionaire class has provided you and the entire world for free to tell us all how to be disgusted you are. We would never know otherwise. They got these. And you know the funny thing about Warren, she'll put something out. She had like 10,000 comments. I just, I was going through them just. And then scrolling, scrolling. There's never one that supports her. She doesn't, I mean, like, like I don't even know if I'd post anymore because there's nobody that even agrees with her. It was all, everybody just basically roasting her outright. And let's get into some. You want to see some racist stats here, Jeff? Let's show some racist stats here.
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Here.
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This is. Denmark publishes crime by country of origin, not nationality. So I looked at the 2021-2025 data. Overall, Somali origin 7, almost 8 times the Danish rate. American origin 0.34 thread of the top five, the bottom five. Here we go. Starting off with violence in Denmark. When they say something's rotten in Denmark, this is what they're talking about. Somali origin, 9.2 times the Danish rate for violence. American, German 0.3. This is origin, right? So over the years, yeah, Lebanon equals Palestine's versus Lebanon, mostly there. Do you look at the. There you write the usa, there's hung, there's Germany, Hungary, China, Syria four times. Iraq four times. Morocco four times. Lebanon seven times. In Somalia, nine times. Then we've got the grievous assaults in denmark. Somali origin 19 times the Danish rate. Lebanese 12 times. Moroccan 7 and a half. The American origin, 0.18. Imagine being 100 times more violent than Americans. Right, because we have guns, Jeff. That's the problem. How about the homicide included attempted in Denmark. Somali origin, 37 times the Danish rate. Lebanese 14 times. Iranian. What is telling you, Jeff? What is this telling you? How about the rape convictions in denmark? Syrian origin, 11 and a half times the Danish rate. Somali 10 times the the Danish rate. Robbery convictions mark top five and bottom five. Somali origin, 28 times the Danish rate. You've got about the Somali origin. These are threats. Chinese origin, zero convictions in five years. Then you've got forgery in Denmark. Somali origin 13 times. Lebanese 12 times. Syrian nine times. Spanish and Chinese zero. How about drugs? Somali origin 12 times the. How about Chinese origin? 0.12 statistics Denmark per 100,000 residents, 15 to 79 immigrants and descendants. But I'm sure, Jeff, I mean, it's amazing that Denmark even published these. They probably didn't promote them. But every country can do this. Every country in Europe can do this. They'll find the same thing or greater. But Jeff, don't worry. You're being racist. No, that's not. You can't import the third world because you will become the third world. One of Donald Trump's favorite. It's one of his more on point quotes then let's. You know, I don't know if you saw this, but Jerry Seinfeld from the, you know, comedian, he did Seinfeld back in the 90s. He did. Have you seen this, Jeff, or heard about this dust up yet?
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No.
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So he was asked a question and of course, here it goes. What up, Seinfeld?
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What up?
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Can we get a free Palestine? Can we get a free Palestine? Come on, give us one free Palestine.
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It doesn't exist. It was Jerry S. And Larry David.
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Yep.
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I should ask Larry David.
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So he's right. It's never existed. It's. There is. There's never been a Palestine. He's like, it doesn't exist. I'm like, and now he's getting crucified. Oh, my God. The left is coming after him. He used to be the darling, now they're coming after him. But of course, Ilan Omar had to comment on this, Jeff. Of course. Right.
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It's good to see you.
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Good to see you. Hey, Jerry Seinfeld has said again last night, Palestine doesn't exist. Do you think that's dangerous rhetoric for someone with such a big platform? I mean, Jerry Seinfeld has been really horrific human being and an example when it comes to talking about the reality of the genocide that Israel has carried out.
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And, and I think when people prioritize their own people
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in the Interest of harming others. It's very dangerous.
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And I don't even think of him
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as like just, well, let's apply that to the dangerous crimes that are being created by a certain group of people that she sort of like, is in the tribe of. Right. So that statement perfectly applies. There she is with her head scarf on. You're in America, but your head scarf go back to your country of origin, where your family basically destroyed the entire country. Your father did. But no, no, no. Find refuge in the U.S. sure. I mean, this goes on. It's more of the same rhetoric, Jeff, but it just never ends. They're always outrage. Something has to be done. They get in power and they destroy. Everything's worse than when before they took over because they want to regulate, they want to destroy businesses. They want to tax the rich. And the rich already paid more than 60% of the taxes. I think it's more like 70% at the top. You know, the top 5% pay the majority of the taxes, but it's not enough because they're not paying their fair share. Weirdly, Elizabeth Warren, she don't. She's like worth 60 or 80 million dollars. She never pays her fair share. Nobody ever. Everybody talks about that. I bought Ilana Omar. Wasn't she the one, Jeff, that had 30 million that. Would she make $30 million in a fake winery? Was that her or was that somebody one of the other squad members?
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No, that was Elon Omar.
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Yeah. So then. So she.
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Her fake winery and she was worth $30 million. How did that work?
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That was. That was an error. She said that was a mistake. Yeah, Jeff. I'm gonna play a clip, guys. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. This. I'm gonna open this question to you guys because I want you guys to name the country. Okay, so we're gonna play name the country.
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Omar Warren, AOC Peak.
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Yeah, we've. We've definitely seen enough.
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We've seen enough of their nonsense.
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I want you to name the country. Ready, guys? I'm going to play this clip and please name the country and the place that this is from. Here we go. Same thing every council meeting. I can.
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And I can make the decision.
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You can do at the moment.
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I don't know.
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The question here is who brought this resolution? The original. Very good. No, no, no. He's scared. Excuse me. I have done enough. Enough of your behavior. Your behavior is very bad. Okay, okay.
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Very in a bad.
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Because he.
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You are very disrespectful man.
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Speak for 30. No, no. Excuse me. You Cannot, sir.
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Not allow you speak.
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I'm speaking.
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Anybody in the world speaking.
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This is. This is. You are my father. To censor like outside business. Are you my parenting. Minnesota or Texas?
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That's.
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Those are pretty good guesses. We got them here. We got. This is. It's not Canada. It's the U.S. that's a good guess, though. USA. It's not Jersey, Jeff. It's not Minnesota or Texas.
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It's India. Not.
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It's not even. And it's not India. It is the U.S. jeff. Do you want to take a guess where this is from? It's a place you and I both know pretty well.
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Hey, that's. That's Detroit. But it's probably either Dearborn or Hamtramck.
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Bing, bing, bing, Bing. Hamtranic. This is Hamtramck, Michigan, right here. Hamtramck, Michigan. A total. An absolute. What a what A just an absolute. What's going on up there, man? I was like, of course it's abstract. Yeah, you totally. I knew you would nail that. I knew that you would nail that. Well, you saw what happened with the election being stolen right within over there in California. Well, check this out. Spencer Pratt is burning it all down. Watch this bank, you know, Watch.
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This campaign portion of my mission to save Los Angeles is coming to a close and I'm moving on to the next more interesting phase. Listen, I spent a lot of time slaying everybody. I've ridiculed everyone on the roster. And I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, I like to take the chance to apologize to absolutely nobody. You think you can get rid of me that easily? I know a lot of dim witted jerks thought I was in this for a grift. That I was going to roll up and leave town if I didn't get into city hall.
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It's just not fair.
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Hey, morons. I didn't get in this for political power. I got in this to expose this corrupt machine. And nothing has changed. You enjoy your worthless meetings in city hall, Nikki. You have all this information. You're running for mayor.
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Show what you're really about or get the out of the ring.
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I'm going to be lighting you up every single day. And now I don't have to worry about offending CNN viewers. I don't have a campaign. Laws hamstringing me now.
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It's war.
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Zero hour for Los Angeles. Angelenos are now stuck with two morons responsible for all their problems. And they have to choose between dumb and dumber. That's Not a choice. That's the machine protecting the machine. And now every problem that plagues Los Angeles because of these two corrupt communists is going to accelerate, and the city will tumble headlong into the abyss. You have no idea how many major developers, hoteliers, business owners, entrepreneurs have been texting me saying they're packing up and leaving. More of your favorite restaurants will be shuttering. That means less tax revenue. That means the city has to cut services. More potholes, less firefighters, less police patrols, more criminals, more drug addicts terrorizing your communities.
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And we haven't ended it.
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You have no idea how bad things are about to get for this city. Look at this place already. Weeds growing from every crack and crevice. Graffiti over every square inch of public space. Garbage, drugs, feces burned up, dogs burned down towns, abandoned storefronts. This city is a mess. And you're about to reward the arsonist who torched a place with four more years of destruction?
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I know he's very bitter.
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My goal hasn't changed. I've been laser focused on stopping these commie animals, and I will stop them. If you think we uncovered a lot of fraud and evil in the campaign, just wait. We have some recordings of one of your exalted candidates doing and saying something that would make her resign in shame. I was saving it for the general election. Go ahead and pick your demon certify your choice. And then you get to see it. So, Karen, Nithya, ask yourself, is it possible that one of your employees may have a recording of you doing or saying something that would force you to resign in disgrace? Hope you sleep well at night over the next five months. Because you know who hasn't slept well at all for the last 17 months? My mom. All my neighbors in the Palisades. All the moms who worry about their kids walking past drug addicts in front of their schools. All the business owners getting crushed in the LA economy, worried that they can't stay in business and feed their kids. Angelenos have been struggling for years now, all while corrupt politicians and fraudulent NGOs profit off the misery and fleece us for the tax dollars. Well, now we're flipping the script. I want all of you awake at night, sweating and worried about 5am when FBI blazers busts in the door breaking open your office. Because I assure you, they're coming. You think your election was going to stop me? If you want to stop me, you're
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going to have to kill. I think Spencer Pratt might be the most underrated candidate of all time. He's gonna burn it down. Burn the effing place down. He's gonna crash and it's going to go very badly. It's so funny. He's like, he's got nothing to lose at this point. He had nothing to lose before. I think the one. I think they'll uncovered election fraud. There's supposedly a hundred thousands of more votes. But they. They didn't want to call it when he was ahead. But as soon as Nithya the ramen noodle, they call her ramen noodle got up there, then all of a sudden, boom. We gotta call it. Oh, call it, call it. We gotta call it, right? This is crazy, Jeff.
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Immediately. And they have until July. They have 30 days.
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You think they're counting any votes, Jeff? They're arriving by helicopter. Where did all these votes come from? The mail. They're bringing them in days, weeks after the election. Sure.
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Why are they bringing votes in anyways? Why aren't they tabulated at the polling place?
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India did. I forgot how many people voted in their last general election with Modi just got reelected. One day, Jeff. Hand counted. Hand counted. One day. Modi, boom, back in. But it was a lot more than any other country, I can assure you of that. Way more than a general here in the United States. And yet. So we know what it's about. We know these are bs. There's no chain of command. There's. You don't even need a signature. Somebody put a smiley face on a thing. It's like it's okay as long as you get somebody else to witness it. And there's a scribble. Who's that?
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We need to. Yeah, we need to go back to. Just like they did in Iraq where they had to dip their finger in the ink.
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Remember that?
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Yeah, that was perfect. That's how it has to be here.
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You knew you vote once you had the big old red stain on your thing. You couldn't get it off that easily. Of course, people walked around that for two years. But it's okay
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next year either.
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It's like, yeah, you can vote for two more years, you know. Now this is funny. Jeff. Let's go to the. Move to the uk. Okay, let's move to the UK Here. So this is a banger right here. This anthem must be playing throughout. You know when they got that call to prayer going? Crank this one up on 11. Watch this. I love this woman here. Look at this.
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Deport the lot.
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If they're men, send them back. We haven't got room.
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We can't keep track. Of Love deport, deport deep on the law they rape, they lie Them wise want to stay but we don't agree with it so send them all away.
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Wonder if she's in prison yet. Jeff. What a. What a.
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Only those. Only solution.
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What a banger.
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And then rid of them all.
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There's two places you could be like, Jeff. Do you want to be like France or do you want to be like Poland? Let's see what these two look like together now. There's France on the left and Poland on the right. By the way, that's. That's an old town right there. I've been in there. I've been that square. I've eaten in that square. It's. It's the. They had to rebuild it after the war, but it's. It's phenomenal, man. Poland is a great country. I really say that Polish people are phenomenal. Their language. I don't even know how you speak Polish, but I tried to. Now, this is before I was there, before the whole, you know, the. The gp. Well, gps. He had them in the cars, but the soul. Smartphone. Jeff. I couldn't pronounce the streets and I was with somebody that spoke. That natively spoke Polish, who would say, no, no, no, it's this. It's what street? I'm like, what? And then I look at the name and it didn't anything like what they just said. I was like, I can't navigate. I couldn't get out of. Dude. I couldn't get out of worst. We were driving down to. To. We were driving south and I couldn't even figure out like 40 minutes we have. We didn't get out of Warsaw. I'm like, dude, I'm looking at the map, but none of this makes sense. I was like, couldn't figure it out. It was really bro
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dazzle for. It's been to Poland. It's an awesome country.
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Ford's over there fighting the good fight. So you want to be like Poland. You don't want to be like France. You want to be a little bit more. I think we're going to hear some news on her, of course. Look at this. Here's a. Here's a UK presenter. She went to a part of London to show you how accessible and friendly it was. And she was going to talk about how racist people are. Didn't go so well. Jeff.
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Community leaders have been speaking to the police as well because. I think apologies for the language you're hearing, but a sense of the anger. I think you can hear that.
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Yeah. Casey, I think. Becky, I apologize. We need to. And what's so funny is the left's wrong and everything. I don't care what country it is. They're just mentally ill. You. It's. It's. It's like God, Sad's book, Suicidal empathy. I mean, it's. If you got. If that book tells you the whole story, it's like, what is one of the stories he has in the book, Jeff, is about the. The. The. The one guy in. The. In the Scottish. I don't know what they call it. The. Not the Senate, but whatever.
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The.
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The guy that. The guy from another country. A brown guy, talking about. There's too many white people. Yeah, there's too many white people. Yeah, it's. You're in Scotland.
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That was Scott. He was the Prime Minister of Scotland.
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So the prime minister is like going, there's too many white people.
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There's too many ways long for him. He got him being.
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There's two. Yeah, exactly. There's nobody going to say there's too many black people. I mean, this is how pathetic it is. Every other race is fine. You can't be. It's just crying to be white. Do you remember that kid that put up in one of the college towns? It's okay to be white. Oh, my God. They harassed the. Out of that kid because she was like saying it's okay to be white. You know, it's like, what he's saying he was racist. The white supremacist. It's just insane.
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Oh, yeah, it's the narrative lost earlier
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with Drew from the French Open.
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It was.
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He said all of the tennis favorites lost early or withdrew at the French Open. Yeah, the French Open. Of course, Parliament for that. I was like, what the hell? It's parliamentary system, man. It's a. It's another failed system. Look, when Ireland reclaims Ireland, when. When the north and south unite. Listen, it's going to be a pushover. The Irish can overrun them. Take back your government and say, hey, let's write a constitution like the United States did, that was written by the people. And let's. A first, free speech and two, you know, the right to bear arms. You put those two things in place, they. They're like checks and balances there. So this is the whole difference between winning and losing. When you lose free speech, it's like, funny, they always take your guns away and geez, it devolves into a really hole fast, you know, look what happened in Australia. Look up in the UK and look at the knife attacks the knife attacks are 10x, but they don't have.
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The knife attacks are increasing and they're getting worse.
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And they're random about cars ramming into people, not taking cars away. But guns. Guns kill people. People, yeah.
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Guns are bad.
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There's so much mental illness going on, Jeff. It's really hard to really understand exactly where. Where to start.
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Well, we can start at the top, get rid of those people, and then we can clean up the bottom.
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Law slash constitution. Irrelevant without enforcement. 100 Steelers play in Paris. I know. Yeah, dude, I'm glad the Bills aren't playing over there. The. I don't like these international games, not because I don't like them traveling, because you have a short week. You got to get on a plane for 10, 12 hours to go travel these places. You screw up your time clock, your performance flips when you go to these international games. I like the idea of promoting it.
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Suffer, though.
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Be honest. Nobody gives a rat's ass in Europe. They don't give a. About American football.
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Pack stadiums, though. They probably don't care, but they pack the stadium.
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I think they just give the tickets away. It's not like watching your favorite football team over in the uk, you know, perform or get deregulated. It's not. It doesn't. None of that matters. I mean, nobody. They don't care about American football. They don't even know the rules. I try to explain to people, they're like, oh, no. Nobody over there understands one rule about American football. They have no clue. They don't know. It's not fun for them to watch. I love it. I know. You know, I know Charles loves it. I mean, a lot. It's my number one sport. I live and die for it. I love it. I consume all the news I possibly can on it. But I hate the part that it's a woke NFL. You got guys that have been.
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That's. That's a major issue.
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Four or five guys have been arrested. But, oh, no, you can't have an Jackson dart, who's the rookie quarterback for New York Giants, introduce Trump. He has to come on, apologize.
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No.
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Yeah, I got mugged in Dublin. Of course I remember that. Geez, man. It's ridiculous.
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If you go. If you go to the Tottenham Hotspur stadium and you see the retractable floor and they retract it and they have a football field underneath the pitch, which is really cool. And then they have the. The games over there every year. Really?
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Okay, that's pretty interesting. You mean American football pitch?
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American foot. Well, you have Their pitch. And then that retracts. You have the American football field.
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Oh, interesting.
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Let's not call our field a pitch.
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Yeah, see, like, I know plenty about soccer way more than any. Anybody from the EU knows anything about American football. They don't care. You know, I know the pr. I know there's some good fans in Australia. I read a meta Bills fan. He was like. I was like, my buddy. I was saying. He goes, well, let me. You weren't. He bring any Bills paraphernalia. I'm not Australia. No. Nobody gives a. About the first guy I run into, man. Hey, Chip, I watch your podcast. I love the Bills too. I'm a Bill support. He had a bill shirt on a bill cat. I was like, son of a. Somebody's punking me here. What's going on? Every once in a while he'll pop in and say, hey, I'm, you know, so and so from the. From Australia. And. And they love the rugby, man. They love their. Their football, too.
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Well, you know what's cool. So Dazzle saying that, man. Manu was playing Milan in Poland. But what's really cool is those same pre games they play over here as well. So all over the US there's different teams that'll play. Yeah, so we saw. I forget who it was last year, but we saw in Orlando. We went and watched Manu. I've seen a whole bunch. We've seen a whole bunch of teams playing in Orlando. So it's. It's really cool when you get the preseason games and the stadiums get backed up. It's a lot of fun.
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It was fantastic to watch the game in the United States. You saw. It was funny because they showed Tom Cruise never think he was actually singing the national anthem with his hand over his heart. And they're like, Patriot, you know, and they had a bunch of other. There's a ton of celebrities there last night at the game. What about the Browns? Nothing's gonna save the Browns, bro. That's the bottom line. If you get traded to the Browns, like what just happened in that big trade? Your career is over, dude.
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And then how about the. The Indiana Bears?
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There's only one thing worse than the Browns, and that's the jets, but they're marginal at best. If you're the Browns, you live by the mistake. You're the mistake on the lake, and nothing's going to save your tractable ruse. Failed quarterbacks. If you leave, though, if you're lucky enough to get out of that system, you're going to do even better. Than you ever have. And that's what, that's probably what we're going to see this year. You want to see some more hypocrisy on the left, Jeff? Not like there's. Not like there's any shortage of it. But here we go, Jen Psaki talking about there are no labs in the Ukraine that were funded by the government. Here she is and then she's going to get checked by Tulsa Gabbard.
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The history also of inventing outright lies like this which is the suggestion that the United States has a chemical and biological weapons program or Ukraine does that they're operating Russia, Russia is the one
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is the country that has a chemical
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and biological weapons program.
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So by the way that was one of the reasons cited. They took that out because they were developing, you know, doing another Covid shit. And one of the first things that Russia took out were all the labs but that was hush hush. And this is what it came up in the new press conference. Oh no, Russia makes up. The US isn't doing any of this.
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The objective was to make clear the inaccuracy of the information, the misinformation they're trying to put out and make clear to the world that they not only have the capacity, they have a history
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of using chemical and biological weapons and
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that in this moment we should have our eyes open for that possibility. Today I'm releasing new evidence of long standing US government funding of more than
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120 bio labs in over 30 countries.
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Now these biolabs include labs in places like Ukraine which could be at risk of compromise due to the ongoing Russia Ukraine war. In fact, the intelligence community had previously warned that a U S funded biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous pathogens. As the information surrounding the existence, history, locations and funding of these U S funded biolabs has been intentionally covered up by very powerful people who falsely claimed that these bio labs didn't exist. Now they accused anyone who says otherwise to be foreign assets and traders to America.
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Here you go, there's the left and the right. And a simple snapshot. So funny how the left and that Jen Pisaki was horrible at her job and then the other one with the. The one that came after her was even worse. What two lunatics man, Just two lunatics.
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Well Sean is saying we have them in freaking the US they caught a guy from NIH sneaking vials in before the world.
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Yes, absolutely. 100
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this whole thing.
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But this like Russia bad, Ukraine bad. It's funny because this is. Jeff, this is the. I don't know if you heard about this, but so you had that little nut job from the, from the Ukraine, what's his name, the former failed comedian Zelensky comes over and he meets over at, you know, with, you know, the prime ministers, right? So they had Mertz there, they had Macron and then they had Starmer. They were all meeting, snapping pictures together. Yeah, this is, this is where, this is where Starmer said under not. We're going to give you our support, we're going to back you, we're going to send troops, we're going to do this. Well, the next day the guy that runs the, the whole, you know, the, the service, you know, the, the armed services resigned. He said there's no money to do any of what he's just talking about. So there's no, so that just went, just died a horrible death. These people are useless. They're feckless. They can't accomplish anything. Starmer, the got the biggest ass beating of all. Everyone's like, he's got to be replaced. Well, all they do is bring in Starmer 2.0. They bring another that's worse than Starmer. They put him in there. The party's gonna put their own guy in there until you have the majority. This parliament is such a bad system, man. Such a bad, horrible system fail. That's why you have, you know, the, the, your, the EU used to be bigger GDP than the U.S. it's like a third of it now.
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I mean it's just, it's a joke.
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Germany said, oh, we can't have new close all their nuclear power plants. And they didn't have enough power to manufacture stuff. So they moved their factories to Poland in the US because they can't make stuff anymore. They don't have any power because, you know, ideology, you know, green energy. And then this, this doom apocalypse was spun because of the global warming. Another nonsense narrative. These people, all they want is more taxes, more money, but they never solved the problem. Look at, what's the name, Karen Bass. She said, I'm going to solve homelessness by 26. Yeah, 17% change. Marginal at best. She's like, well, we didn't solve it. That's why we need another four years. It's the same thing. If you look, if you, if you're a critical thinker and you can kind of look past the, the ideology of feel goods. I mean, you know, people say, Jeff and I, we're just, we're just shills for the Trump administration. Well, the Trump administration, I think this did a very bad miscue by closing down Anthropic, a public they want to be. So Trump's idea of knows that the race is with AI. He who controls AI controls the people, controls everything. So if you allow China to win that war, it's going to go very badly for the rest of the world. If you allow the eu, which they don't have any. There's no tech over there, zero tech now, it could change in the future. But you want to be putting data centers in data centers. Data centers are going everywhere. Data centers are. We got more data centers. But then you, you're, you're now calling it that. We got to regulate it. We got to close it down. It's a very bad. Look, it was a very bad move. Instead of investigating, instead of going deeper. Now, the funny thing is Anthropic has been working with the government about releasing this. This wasn't done. This wasn't done in some back room. It was done full disclosure to the government. For the government to shut it down is very bad. Sends a very bad signal for what's going on. AI, I don't know where.
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There's got to be so much more to it that,
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you know, saying foreign nationals will be jailbroke. Any frontier model can be jailbroke to some degree. It's not. There's no fail safe. And it sounds like they're picking winners and losers, which the government should never do. Why? Because they kicked Anthropic out and they put Open AI. But Open AI's Codex model is pretty damn powerful, Jeff, and it could probably be used to root out some cyber security stuff too, and can probably be jailbreak. Okay, so you're now picking one over another. And I don't like when any government does that. I don't care if it's Trump administration anything. I think it's a. Sets a very bad precedent. And, and there's zero. There's zero coming out of the government. I've searched for it. What's the government's official position? Nothing. 5:30 yesterday said shut it down because they're worried about foreign nationals. Well, they can't stop foreign nationals. They don't know who it could be from China here in the US they can't regulate it by ip. They're not doxing you. And I was okyc aml to see who you are. I mean, to me it was a bad move. I think it was a very bad move.
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Yeah. And here's the some commentary on it which said, to the best of our knowledge, this is the first time The United States has issued an export Control Directive for LM LLM access ever. This directive affects not only the U. S Closest allies, uk, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, but their nationals as well, regardless of whether or not they reside in the U.S. in effect, any application depending on U. S based LLMs is subject to being shut down. And at any moment as a result of an Export control directive for Fable 5 Mythos 5, there was no forewarning. Access ceased almost immediately for us at Isaacus, the Australia based foundational legal AI research company operating the U.S. uK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and the UA and the EU. This reality only further cements our position that for Frontier, artificial intelligence ought to be accessible to everyone rather than concentrated in the hands of a select few. Frontier Labs ourselves can include it. To that end, every single model we've released has from day one been available for air gap self hosting. We have no plans on changing that. In fact we've doubled down on AI sovereignty, actually shaping our product roadmap so they go in into depth based on, you know, the issue at hand, you know, since they so easily and quickly froze people out. So the question is if it's going to be short term or you know, when this comes back. But so far there hasn't been any news for the past eight hours.
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No, there's been no news. The other thing about it, well the other thing too is me, those, they knew enough not to release that because of the cyber security risk, the fact that there was a 22 year old software that they found, you know, vulnerabilities in the kernel. They also found, you know, so they licensed the companies like Apple and Palo Alto, big organizations, the IBMs of the world, to make sure, to run on their networks, to make sure their stuff was secured because they're worried about, I mean in the wrong hands could take down grids, could take down the entire system, right? Take down it could do a lot of damage. They basically put a lot of safeguards around it. But like what's enough safeguards? And like so the government dictating that you can do this and can't do that. I just think it was a very bad misstep, a very stupid misstep to go ahead and make a, a Now it's one thing to investigate and work closely with them and say hey we really got to talk about this. But it wasn't like Anthropic released this without the government's knowledge. So I don't know if it was somebody internally, I don't know where the directive came. It's counter to where the, the, the position of the Trump administration's been. People always say to me, chip, you're such a sycophant for Trump. I criticize Trump a lot. I criticize this administration. Maybe you don't hear it here. I do a lot of it. I don't agree with everything. Nobody should agree with everything. There's things that have been done that I think are miscues, missteps that shouldn't have happened, you know, for the most part. Yeah, because I'm a conservative. I believe conservative values. But there's other things that go the rhino way and I just talk about them, you know, Vietnam. And I just think that this smells very bad. It was a very bad move. You can't be. We're going to build so many data centers so we can have AI and then boom. We're not even into the big AI era and you've already shut down one of the most impressive models out there. But people were building their businesses around it. Companies, you know, small companies like mine, you know, one person sort of things that were thriving are now getting shut down by this. I. As soon as that happened, I go, oh, God. I got four days of coding to do what I was gonna do. And basically a one shot prompt where I. And I, and I spent all day yesterday putting all the, all my stuff together to be able to get to a point of where this is ready to go. And I launch it, all the assets defeat it, everything launch it. Boom. And it creates it in a couple hours and I'm done. The whole website's built. And then I make, I tweak it. Nope, not anymore. So it's not only my dissatisfaction, but you're cutting off back to.
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Now you're Back to Opus. Opus 4.8.
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I might be. I might be checking out Codex. I've heard so many good things about it. I might just have to see if I can let Codex just run with some agents or Hyper Agent. I'll go to Hyper Agent and see what I can get done over there. But there's so many models and it's like it's a new shiny object. But to me, it smells Bad. Like OpenAI ended up taking the slot that Anthropic got, you know, moved out of. And now OpenAI, they're not closing down Codex, which has the same jailbreak capabilities. Codex is very powerful and they're not stopping that. So to me, and there's no proof that anything has been jailbroke to the point of where it can do any Damage. So to me, I don't know, this was a bad stuff. Now we haven't presented anything, they're working closely, anthropic. But to all of a sudden come out and just shut them down. I mean, they didn't say shut it down. They said you got to stop foreign nationals. Well, impossible. You can't restrict by ip. They don't know who you are. There's no kyc.
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Shut it all down. That's why they disabled it.
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They had no other, they had no other option. Like the directive was stop foreign nationals. Well, you can't do that. And so whoever issued that directive ought to be strung up because they ought to be deleted from the Trump administration. Because you basically put all of AI into chaos. You pissed off a lot of people, but you hurt a lot of entrepreneurs. You heard a lot of people who were already doing big things with it. And bad move, man.
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Bad. Yeah, bad move.
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And I hope there's enough people out there to talk about this that have a voice bigger than ours because I just smells rotten, dude.
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Yep.
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So bad move. I don't know who did it. And the fact that there's nothing coming from the government is even sadder. I have, I know it came out at 5:30 on a Friday, but for silence from the government, I mean, we'll probably hear more unfold and who knows if it was a temporary thing, if the U.S. says okay, we're gonna but. And does the U.S. even know? Do they have any hard evidence that it's been jailbroke? They have any real evidence? Because guess what? Any frontier model LLM has the same problem. You're not going to say single it out. It's anthropic, you know, it's perplexity, it's open AI. They all have the same vulnerabilities that they can jailbreak it. For example, I'll put something that's very political into there and it says, I'm sorry, that's political. I can't do that. And then I. All I do is ask it again and it gives it to me. Well, that's jailbreaking. Because they have a, they have a throttle on it. I just jailbroke it, right? Because I did force open AI to answer. I go, that's okay, I'll go to Grok because you suck. And it's like, well, you know, I'm non partisan. I don't want to take any political issues. I'm like, F you. I asked you to help me with some research. And I said, but you're very Partisan said I, but I am not. I'd be fair. Okay, let's try this. Was. Was Obama a good president? Yes. Is Trump a good president? No. Okay, there you go. Stupid. That's. I'm like there you go. Just proved yourself. But Trump has endangered. Blah blah blah. You're a woke piece of what I put in there next. So I go to Rock Rock and I get exactly what I want. I did the research. I get the stuff. Or I go to Claude and get exactly what I want. But you're going to sit there and limit me. This woke, you know, and Anthropic has a little bit of that too. Grok has none of it. Grok is so blatantly honest. Punch you in the face is what it does. So anyway, Jeff, we did two hours today. We're coming up on the two hour mark. We did a two hour podcast guys. I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you for staying to the end. One person that still watches till the end in our podcast got a large.
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