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Jeff
Welcome back to on the Chain. Today feels different. Ship XRP trying to break out, maybe reverse breakout. Gonna get into this anyways. Regulation is no longer something that's being debated. It's actually being stress tested in real time. They're really trying to push some regulation. At least they're discussing the regulations, they're talking about it in Congress. Things are going around globally, but what we're watching right now looks a lot like the early stages of a global financial reset.
Chip
Exactly. And power structures are shifting, markets are responding and the rules of the game are being forced into the open. XRP isn't really moving in isolation though. It's really moving because of clarity, structure, real utility are basically colliding with systems that were really never designed for transparency.
Jeff
And ain't that the truth. We're seeing that play out on a global scale as the cabal, so to speak is fighting back, trying to maintain their power because they don't like transparency. And that is exactly what we're unpacking today. We're getting into the geopolitics, we're getting into the crypto. Unlike the other YouTube fanboy channels out there that give you hype and FOMO and 589 and a thousand end of year we're going to talk about what's real, we're going to talk about what's noise because there's way too much of it out there. And we're also going to talk about why this moment right now, right here really matters.
Chip
Absolutely. Let's go. Welcome to on the Change. Welcome everybody to on the Chain. You know they love the centralization. Anything they can control, anything they can put their finger on, any narrative they can spin up and that's right. You know it was funny, I was at an event yesterday and it was, was really mostly focused on AI, but there's also a lot of, of course everybody there is in the blockchain. So that came up numerous times and one of the things that I kind of takeaways I got were, you know, the whole idea of moving away from centralization, you know, in some respects too, the way the AI will be able to transform trading making. Because right now you have an algorithm and it's, you tweak it and it does something where AI can do it on the fly, it can sort of start adjusting. And what's interesting is that if you take some of the big models out there, if you look at ChatGPT, you look at anthropic, you look at Cloud, you look at Grok, Grok to this date is returning 8 to 12% as a trading bot. People that have been leveraging it about what to buy prompts are pretty long. And what you have to figure out, it's not like, hey, Gro, tell me what to buy. It doesn't work like that. Garbage in, garbage out. But you have to be able to. And it's been producing, you know, 8 to 12% returns way, way above any of the other ones. So when I think about AI, think about blockchain, you think about the whole idea of decentralization. You think about the global footprint of the entire human race living on a planet that really want the basics. They want the government off their back. They want to be able to invest their money where they want to invest their money. They want to be able to build wealth, and they look out for the families. They just want to just do their thing. And we just have these governments. The EU is imploding in real time. Jeff. It's just insane to watch what's happening over there. This bonder lady, whatever her name is, she's not even elected. Who. Who is she to be going over, cutting deals? Imagine that you give up your sovereignty to some nut job like that. Who's cutting deals with India that are gonna import, you know, yet more, you know, bring more, you know, foreigners into your country. And it's not that I'm against that. I, you know, Indians are very well, you know, trained, and they're classly trained. They're great coders or they do a lot of things very well. But the whole point is, is that you're just gonna cease being countries. Like, nobody in India is thinking about importing, you know, Europeans. They're not thinking about, how can we bring more Europeans here? Like, why don't we have more Europeans in Mumbai and some of the tech hubs, like, you know, what's missing from here. Europeans. You know what's missing from here. Americans. Like, no, they're not thinking about. They're thinking about their country, their culture. There's like 50 some languages spoken in the. In India, you got Hindi, which is one of them. But each. Each region has their own language. There's a lot to. It's a lot to deal unpack. People think, oh, they don't all speak the same language. I mean, most speak Hindi. Not all, but depends where you're at. But why do we have to transform countries? Their culture, their language, their borders. Like, what are we getting out of that? Like, what. Where's the value in doing that now? It's great to have Trade agreements. They dropped these to have 110% tariffs on their cars and vehicles and they kind of removed that. But the picture I'm thinking about tying this all into is the fact that as countries will do and as the EU will do these things, the people, whether you're in India, which is a massive, an incredible population of people that understand digital assets and invest, this is the one thing that brings us all together. And the governments will do what they'll do, but people ultimately just want to thrive. Jeff.
Jeff
People, yeah, people globally want the same thing. They want. I like that. They want to thrive. You know, people want freedoms. Not everywhere are they willing to fight for freedom. Not everywhere are they true, tweaked, you know, for freedom. They're not built for it. It's just innate, not just in their culture, but somehow in, in the IQ structure of uh, of their history. It just isn't something, you know, when you have a lot of tribalism, it's hard for them to break out of, of culture of, of that mindset. India though, you know, they're, it's, it's such an interesting dynamic because there is so much entrepreneurialship built into the Indian culture. And if you see families that have come out of India and they come to this country, not saying everybody, but typically education is, is highly favored within, within the, within the family structure. A lot of times they're pushing towards medicine or entrepreneurship, business ownership. You know, they want their kids to be more educated and more well off than they were. So parents will sacrifice everything to see, to see that. And, and that's a, and that's a really good thing. A lot of businesses that are owned, you know, by immigrants that came in from India and, and I like that. You know, I think that that's what built this country. On the other side of it is the leftist ideology that wants to import people in mass numbers to displace all the good things in the country, specifically to maintain a voting b, a voting block and to destabilize Western ideology because they know there's a tipping point. You can only take in so much without assimilation. And the countries themselves and the communities can only handle so much incoming before you can't handle it anymore. And that's what we're starting to see. So one of the things that you highlight is from a cultural perspective, why not build up the countries these people are coming from? What, what is so bad about helping the Indian civilization? You know, India as a, as a whole, because there's huge amounts of money there. I've Been to India multiple times. There's a lot of poverty and there's a lot of money and there's a growing middle class. If you go to different areas, people would always say there's wealthy and there's poor. That's because there's a middle class. Mexico. Go to Mexico. Same thing, right? We're sold a bill of goods by the left in this country to believe that it's either ultra wealthy or ultra poor, and it's our responsibility to somehow bring in the poor into our country. Well, why aren't those countries responsible for their own poverty? What are they doing to build up productivity on a, on a larger scale? And, and this is what we need to see. We can't mass import people into this country to somehow think that that's going to fix it. Especially when these people are not coming here or Europe or wherever they're going for the betterment of society. They're going there, you know, to rely on handout and basically to be subservient to some political class that wants to, to manipulate and use them. And, and that's a bad thing. Which is exactly why we need full transparency, which is exactly why crypto and, and stable coins and blockchain is so vital at this moment in time, is because of the battle that's being waged on a much bigger scale that, you know, we saw this start back in 2016, and, and this quote unquote cabal, you know, which is trying to hold on to their power stranglehold on civilization at large. And now it's being, it's being challenged, right? Yeah, they're definitely being challenged. Trump is, is the tip of the tip of the spear. And this is why they tried to stop him in 16, this is why they cheated in 20. This is why the media is so against him. This is why the Europeans are terrified. This is why the UN is about to shut down. You know, there's just so much going on, so much winning. It's massive winning. But they're still trying to mass import people on a broad scale. It's, it's going to destroy Europe. I don't see how, how Europe comes back from this. It's, it's completely backwards at this point.
Chip
That's right. Where we go one, we go all. Do, you know, if, you know, you know, let's put it that way. But I like this comment by Alexander the base, who says people who want to assimilate also preserves culture. You don't let people in who want to change the culture, keep them where they Are. And I agree with that. But the problem is, like, how do you know. And I will say that, you know, that I've sponsored H1B visas before. I've got great talent in tech talent. And. And so what you're hearing here is not that I don't. Don't want to do more of that. I think what, what I'm saying is, is that it gets to be to a point of where you got to have to look out after the country when it starts losing its culture, it starts losing its language and borders, and you don't have a country anymore. So you really have to think about, you know, what does that mean to the old. And, you know, and one of my, you know, some. Two of the, you know, influential people in my life are both Indian, you know, from India. And that's why it's not. It's not. This is not anything against India. I think India's amazing country. I love. I, you know, I love when they kind of come and bring their culture, but just. Right. The entrepreneurial spirit that Indians have is second to none. They come here, they build businesses. They don't rely on the government. They, they come here, they're very proud, and they want to make something for themselves, make something their families. And I'll tell you, the Indians that I know, man, they've crushed it, right? I don't care what they've done, what kind of business, whether it's been tech, whether it's been open at a corner store, they just crush it. You know, even, even the, you know, down the street, owned by, you know, the local business, owned by the Indians. Nicest people ever. I'm not, it's not an indictment on India. It's an. It's. What I'm talking about is at some point you gotta. You gotta think to yourself, how come other countries aren't doing this? How come other countries aren't bringing in, you know, great tech people to work in some of the tech hotspots?
Jeremy Hogan
It's.
Chip
Yeah, there's some people there, but it's like, when you think about Europe and how they're gonna. It's basically going to be a race. I really don't see Europe functioning the way we think. You'll have pockets, you'll have, like, Poland will be there. Hungary, you might have some of the Baltic, you know, countries potentially. But I just see them giving up. I see the countries gave up their sovereignty in 2000 when they became the EU. We're 26 years into this experiment, and it's not going well. And I know they tried to. It made sense originally. They go like, well, you know, we can. You can do free travel and you can move. We'll have one currency. But the part that doesn't work is the centralized, again, centralized person. Von der Leyen, who's making all. Who is, who is she to be going around making this stuff? Jeff.
Jeff
Right.
Chip
I don't, I don't get it. It's crazy talking.
Jeff
Anointed.
Chip
Self anointed. Yeah. I'm the self anointed queen of the eu. And, and even the European Central bank is just, it's just fraught with just issues. You know, the whole thing is burning to the ground. And the funny thing is I've seen so many videos on my feed of people from the UK criticizing everything about the US I don't like the us The World Cup's coming up. I'm not going there. We don't want to be in the World Cup. Great. Because.
Jeremy Hogan
Right.
Chip
I can actually purchase tickets in my own country. I'm happy if you don't come and I don't care really, quite honestly, but to me, I never miss the World Cup. It's a big event every four years. It's fantastic to see it coming up. But just the criticism and Donald Trump, this, I'm like, your country is gone. You are a waste of energy and human flesh. Your country's being ripped out from underneath you. Orange man. Bad. I mean, really, what are you speaking out in your country? You're not saying anything. Meanwhile, you're getting rolled big time. I mean, totally rolled. And it's pathetic, man.
Jeff
It's horrible. It's horrible to see. And they're, and they're going along with it. I don't know. I don't know what happened overall, you know, to the, to the British spirit. You know, I, I guess they don't have it. You know, they're not willing to fight back.
Chip
There's a lot of people that are, but it's just not.
Jeff
Not on this. Right. It's a. Not on the scale they need to at this point, you know, but they're. But their political structure is also stacked up against them, you know, this parliamentary government. I don't know how they end up with some leftist nut. I don't know how they have Islamists that are controlling most of their cities. I, I don't know how they've given up, you know, their sovereignty so quickly. It's amazing. They're like the French.
Chip
Well, it's culture. Culture. What started back in the, like, late 80s this whole politically correct, which was another way to say woke. It's the same repackaged and re wrapped and, And a lot of it had to do with the feminist movement. A lot of women moved into government. They just want. Everybody has to be the same. We all have to give everybody a chance. And meanwhile the fear. You bring people in your country and you fear being called a racist. I don't care where you come from, I don't care what the color your skin is. You break the laws, you're going to prison, you're getting expelled. That's it. Forget about racism. You know, who cares? I mean, break the laws, you know, if you're white, black, who cares? You know, and this whole thing of. I just wanted to. Yeah, I wanted to say this. So I did a space the other night, talked about Darren Moore. His name is M O O R E. Probably missed the E there. And I had the chance to meet Darren and Darren and I would talk pretty regularly. So I'm pretty bummed out that he passed away the other day. I still don't have details on how it happened, but I got the news pretty early. It was pretty much a bummer.
Jeff
Said he suffered with the colitis.
Chip
Yeah, his dad came in, but I mean, I don't know the details around it, but his dad came in on one of Moon Chasers posts and then I posted on that. But did he suffer from colitis? He had a, A second operation, it was botched. He was in Costa Rica and I don't know what happened, but I mean, I don't know, like the details led up to that, but it had to be with a botched surgery, which is what happened. And Darren and I talked pretty regularly. We had some pretty intense conversations. As you know, we're. We were pretty politically aligned, although there were times where we disagreed. You can go back and see how I disagree with him on some posts. But I thought he was brilliant guy, especially, especially how the amount of knowledge he had around the, you know, the, not only the blockchain space, but political space, the financial space. He was very good, you know, and when in December when he got, when his crypto got stolen, he was like, I don't know what I did, what I clicked on, what happened, but all this crypto was on a cold storage wallet and it got ripped. And there's not too many people out there that would, you know, you'd be pretty embarrassed if that happened. But he was the kind of guy who said, I gotta help people. And I got it. He did a whole Video, half hour video on what happened, how it happened. They wanted to help people from them not having to go through the same thing. Being that transparent takes a big person, you know. You know, and I'll miss our conversations. You know, he was a good dude and I had a chance to meet him, you know, Rob, who he's not in here now but Rob comes into the show and he's a big fan of the show but he held a pre party at the, at the. Over at the, you know, the proper party which was two, a little over two years ago in September and, and Jeremy Hogan posted a very nice tribute to him and I said that's a beautiful tribute, Jeremy. Jeremy. I mean great. You know, Darren was a cool dude and that's what I got to sit down with him and hang out at the table and drink a beer with them and yeah, and you know, he battled some other demons too, but he was a fighter and you know, so what's going to happen as a result of that is his daughter. He had just gone through a divorce and his ex has been contact with some, some of us in the community. They're going to set up an escrow account for his daughter. So that's great. Everybody will get a chance to, to basically, you know, contribute to it. So as I have more details I would hope, look, every little bit helps but if everybody can maybe, you know, donate a little xrp, it's going to be for his daughter so that she has something, you know, when, you know, a little bit later and hopefully, yeah, nice get Moon. But and only because you know, he got all this crypto basically ripped out and, and so that's what one of the things we're doing. So when I have more details on that, I'll share that with the community. I'll share it on. Yeah, he had, he had brains and he was one of those guys that I really respected the fact that he was not. He was so at a different level when you think about people in this space and even when I sat down with him, meeting him in person, he's just was an intellectual. He was a very good dude, but funny guy too. Funny guy. Kind of soft spoken in some regards but. But he did have a, he did have a pretty good sense of humor as well. So I will say that. And, and so it's really sad that happens. We're gonna lose people, man. It's sad. But we're not living forever. There'll be a time if Jeff and are still doing the show, one of us won't Be here. You know, it's forever, man. We're gonna try to live forever happens, dude. I mean, you know, you just, you know, you know, you walk across the street and boom, you get, you know, taken out. You just never know, man. It's like there's nothing guaranteed about life. And, and unfortunately I've had, you know, good. I've lost good friends, Jeff's lost good friends along the way. It's pretty sad when you have like, people that you knew, influential in your life, somebody you call a really solid friend, and then they go way too, way too young. And you know, the case of me as I had a good friend who was. Just had a heart of gold and on New Year's Eve he went out to go, he was a social worker and he went to be with somebody that was going to pass and didn't have family. When he came out at mid over after midnight, not spending it with his fiance, you know, got carjacked. The guy drove the car and then he came back while he was laying on the ground because he assaulted him, like hit him and. And they just basically shot him in the head. And that's just a horrible way to go, man. Luckily it was all caught on camera. The guy, they got the guy the very next morning. They got him hours later. They knew who it exactly was. It was a camera on a, On a auto parts store that picked everything up. But the fact that the guy came back after he already took the car while he was laying there. And the first time the gun did misfire and then he, and he shot him. I don't know why, I don't know why, but I don't know if he was just incapacitated, but he didn't. He said there's no struggle, he didn't fight back. But I think he might have just. Might have just hit his head when he, when he went to the ground. Because he was on the ground. Yeah. So, you know, look, that's gonna happen, man. So, you know, a lot of, a lot of love to Darren Moore and his family. And once we get some more details, I would hope that everybody in this community could pitch in. And even if you give a few XRP, if enough of us, if 75, 000 of us were willing to support Deaton, if everybody gave one XRP in that community, you have 75, 000 XRP for his daughter. So that'd be awesome. I hope we can just, you know, we can rally together.
Jeff
Imagine we give like, you know, if that. I would love to see that you know, happen. I would love to see those. That volume of people. They probably won't be that volume but imagine that we can get that kind of action out of the XRP community. I. It's doable. You know we've seen it happen like you said with John Deon was able to pull together. There hasn't been anything else like it.
Jeremy Hogan
No.
Jeff
You know most, most of the. The XRP community seem to like pull back into their shell and, and hide. You know you get engagement on, on the different crypto channels but that's it. Where, where are the other people? Where is everybody? You know they're willing to come out for that come out support people support projects too. But let's come out and support. You know when people have a difficult time like that and support the family and you know it's that. That'll say a ton about this community. Really different. I agree with that. XRP army is at a different level than any other digital asset community coming together to support it. It is true. That's the one thing it's like you see a lot it from a human perspective the people that have come together for this xrp, you know support or the XRP army and the XRP community is definitely different than anything every. You know it's, it's, it's interesting. It really is interesting. You know the friendships that have been developed over these years. Chip think about you know how it, you know it brought us together. It's brought so many people that we've met over, over the course together. I think it's, it's really you know, amazing. You know people all over the world that you get to engage with and share a passion with and a lot of like minded people.
Chip
Yeah, it really is. And it's like so many people wrote some really great things about it. I was trying to just find them here and see if I was trying to find Jeremy Hogan's post. But for some reason when you're looking for it, let me see. And then it was the same day that I met Jeremy Hogan as well. I'm gonna put in. You know it's. He wrote a beautiful tribute there. He posted a little. I'm gonna go ahead and let me just. Let me show you the video first here. Fortunately I gotta stop everything and hit and share screen and the whole audio thing. Jeff. And it's just the main pain in the ass. God almighty. What the hell. Here we go. Okay, so he had, Darren had had Jeremy Hogan on here. So you hear, tell me if you hear sound here today.
Jeff
Yep.
Chip
Okay, so here, here's. There's Darren. Right here we have Jeremy Hogan, none other than Jeremy Hogan. How are you tonight, Jeremy? I am doing excellent. I'm in Vegas and I'm not drunk. So there we are. Well, I appreciate you coming on to my show and discussing everything that has happened. Everyone, today we have Jeremy Hogan, none other than that one right there and then. So he posted this. You want to take that, Jeff? My throat's a little bit sore today.
Jeff
I'd like to pay my respects to fame 21 more. It's Darren Moore who lost who we lost yesterday. I spoke with Darren many times over the last couple years about XRP crypto and life in general. He was the ultimate gentleman and scholar. What exemplifies Darren more than anything, I think is when his crypto got hacked a couple months ago and he lost almost everything. That was, that was pretty, you know, gut wrenching. His first instinct was to post about it, about how it happened so that no one else would make the same mistake. That was his nature and that was I, I remember going through all of that. Darren had great enthusiasm for privacy and liberty. He educated people, including me. And this is Jeremy Hogan. We're reading a statement from him about, about privacy, defy and above all, liberty. He never wavered from those ideals for a quick buck and he had many opportunities. He brought a lot of people into the space with his well researched videos and commentary. The XRP and the crypto community really lost a good one yesterday. RIP Darren Moore and thank you, sir.
Chip
Rest in peace, my man. Yeah, and then too, it's great to see, you know, some other tributes pouring into, you know, Ellie Terrett also, if you want to take this one too, Jeff. She also put this one up. Hang on a second. I had to. Stop sharing. They even changed that, Jeff. Now it's an X. It's not a stop sharing thing. They just never cease to amaze me all the things that they add here. All right, so here we go.
Jeff
Go ahead and take that visual vendetta. Yep. He passed away two days ago.
Chip
Yeah, it was a couple days ago, unfortunately. Yeah, we lost everyone. Yeah. So yeah, it was a botched surgery. His dad kind of came in and, and posted on moonchasers post thanking her in the community for all the accolades, but apparently it was, it was something related to colitis. He had a second surgery, it was botched. And he was in Costa Rica when he passed away. So. Yep.
Jeff
So Eleanor Terrett said Darren Moore, aka Fame 21 More was an incredibly kind and Generous person. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the XRP Las Vegas in 23 and this was my last correspondence with him at the end of last year. We had planned to chat more in 26 and I'm heartbroken. We won't get that chance now. Rest in. In peace, my friend. And here's from Crypto Darren. You had written Hey L. You're doing a wonderful job with Crypto America. Just watching it. I learned a lot from you. I remember when you were on my show, you had questions that I wish I had. Do you have any suggests for me to get better? Books, videos, etc. That was really nice. You know, it's great to see that kind of engagement and. And there she is. You know, so what a. What a community. You know, just people coming together and man. And that's. That's how it is. Just how it is.
Chip
But yeah. And yeah. He just went on to say thank you kind to you. Sure you want to get better in terms of asking better questions or just broadening your knowledge? He said, oh, you have a ton of skill. Questions would be good. But how also how you get people on your show. What do you do when you have downtime? Everything you're willing to teach. I can shed my ego and be taught by the master. And I know you're a busy person, so am I. But if you want to set up a zoom call. So that's really just really cool, man.
Jeff
That I'm not sure how old he was. Visual Windows saying he doesn't think he was even 30. I'm not 100.
Chip
I think he was in his 30s. I know it's funny. I probably go through some more conversations and dms and stuff, but I'm not really sure how old he was. I don't think he was 40, though. I don't think he was. I think he might have been in his 30s, but I'm not 100. Sure how old he was. Something that never came up.
Jeff
But Charles said Darren was an OG. Definitely kept it real.
Chip
Yeah. 100% good dude that.
Jeff
In the. Within the community. But let's. Let's move on to some. Some topics here on.
Chip
Yeah, let's go to. But anyway, shout out to Darren Moore. Hope he's in a better place and all this stuff. So good, good, good, good, good. All right, let's jump into. Jump into some ripple stuff going on here. Just some things and the happenings that are going down suck some things that caught our eyes. So we were talking about the Senate committee. Jeff brought this up at the Beginning at the top of the show. But John Boozman, under his leadership, the, the Senate ag Committee advanced the crypto market structure legislation. Big move for consumer protection and innovation. And then the. John Boozman's quote here is that this is a critical step towards creating clear rules for digital asset markets. Advancing this bill brings us closer to U. S regulatory framework that protects consumers while allowing American innovation and businesses to thrive. There's still more work ahead, but I'm proud to lead this important effort and hopeful that this will build moment in the Senate to advance this legislation. And so this committee here, how it works in the United States is that a bill will go before a committee and, and sometimes it won't even. It'll be there, but it never gets a committee vote. In this case it got a committee vote. And the sad part about it that really kind of I just, I'm trying to find some, some positive way to look at this, but it was along party lines. It was basically 11, it was one more vote by the Republicans. So like 11 Republicans and 10 no's from the Democrats. And it's like, why do, why does this have, why is this a partisan issue? You know, market structure, bill rules for crypto, like it doesn't make any sense. And a lot of times the other side, when, when you have like, you know, the Trump administration, but Biden administration, the other side doesn't want the other, whoever's in, you know, running the government to get a win. We don't want them to get a win. But these kind of things, when you're doing this kind of stuff, it's against the American people that have been waiting for legislation since Satoshi first came on the scene. And all the Harmon's things that have come to projects that got shut down just because of wonky, you know, thinly, you know, going back to the 32, 33, you know, you know, and then 1947, how. Yeah, I mean this kind of stuff is just ridiculous. And so when I think about that, Jeff, it's just like, how are we not, how are we not moving forward with the legislation that benefits everyone? Now I could honestly see if like four or five Democrats voted for it. Maybe four or five didn't. Okay, but to be totally split on party lines for a bill that explains how crypto will work and provides rules, I don't understand it, man. It's just, it's a hard one to fathom. But again, it's like, you know, the, the left doesn't want this anti crypto label, but they keep earning it. Every single chance they get. It's just unbelievable to me, belongs to them. Take this one, Jeff. This is Garlinghouse basically commenting on that last post.
Jeff
So, yeah, and this, this is, I think, really important. You know, he's referencing the Banking Committee. So here you have Brad Garland House. The last couple weeks have been an absolute firestorm of action to get the market structure bill passed. And this, this is. There's so many bills that have been this, this past session that had been put in front of Congress and the Senate. Now, while Banking GOP clears its log jam. Thank you, Senator Tim Scott. Congrats are on order to Senate Ag GOP and Chairman John Boozman for advancing the Senate Agricultural Committee's market structure built out of committee. So if it goes to committee, it can die in committee also. And that's. We've seen that happen with some of this crypto legislation gets there, no discussion, no commentary, and, and that's it. And it just, it stops there. So in this case, it's got to get out of committee before it gets in front of Senate for them to have a bigger, broader vote. So here we see get out of the market. The market structure bill comes out of the Agricultural Committee. Big positive. Brad Garlinghouse goes on. Uh, he says, as I've seen before, clarity is better than chaos. And obviously, you know, guys, we've lived in chaos for many years, and it was all by design because purposefully, the SEC decided to take actions that were very destabilizing to crypto, as we all are pretty well aware now. Brad Garlinghouse goes on here. The legislative process can be messy and complex, but it's 100 necessary to have clarity for this and future generations of crypto entrepreneurs, builders and users as this technology becomes increasingly ingrained into our global financial infrastructure. Chip, one of the things that I point out, you know, to point out there are the generations of crypto holders and builders and developers. I think Brad Garland House is definitely onto something with all of that. So much is needed. Chip. I think you and I kind of share a very, you know, clear thought process with Brad Garlinghouse, who has come out as seemingly very conservative as well. But the, the point is that you need to have regulatory clarity in order for this space to really build.
Chip
Yeah, 100. And, you know, we've been, we've been critical at times. You know, look, we, we're, you know, we're not going to be sycophants. We're not gonna, we're gonna call out stuff we see. You know, I, People say Like, oh, you're just a Trump syncphot. I'm like, listen, there's plenty of things that I don't like, and I'm. I haven't been shy about sharing the opinion on it. I've absolutely, you know, said things that. That just, I don't think is a good move, a good look. The latest one is this whole arrest, you know, arresting, you know, a journalist who was not journaling. He was not doing a journalist type work. But, you know, Don Lemon, I mean, like, you know, resting him. It's not. Optically, it's not a good look. And it's. It's really unnecessary, quite honestly. And you can't have tit for tat where you say, like, well, there's a grandma serving 10 years in prison because she was praying outside an abortion clinic. It's not tit for tat. It's not, well, they did this and we're doing this. No, no, it's just those weren't good looks either, optically, just a bad look. Somebody praying outside of an abortion clinic ends up getting, you know, years in jail. It's just this. This whole thing where we go, you did this and we're doing this. And to me, you know, the whole thing was a farce to begin with. We'll get into it a little bit more. But I wanted. I do want to bring it up. We'll cover it a little bit. But to me, you know, optically, not a good look. Necessary. Not even. Doesn't matter. It's. In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter.
Jeff
The left narrative is imploding. I am seeing it play out in real time. They arrested journalists. They arrested people just from. For being in D.C. at on January 6th. They created a fictitious narrative in and around that they. They perpetuated it. Just like the Russia hoax. It's hoax after hoax after hoax. You can only cry wolf so many times before people call out the. It's amazing to me that they can still find this fringe element to go out and protest. But notice that the fringe element, when you see these protests now that are going after ice, that are supporting child rapists that are, you know, illegal immigrants here, that have committed crime after crime after crime, and. And we need to get them out of the country, and those are the people. But this fringe that's going out in protest, these aren't even normal people anymore. You know, they're so far leftist fringe. But this is. They get so much attention. The media is still behind it. The media is highlighting it, you know, like they're legit. This whole thing like you brought up with Don Lemon as somehow he doesn't even understand what the First Amendment is. You know, this is the crazy thing. They go into a church service, so they impede the rights of other people in order to proclaim their freedom of speech. What kind of nonsense is this? And they. There were, you know, men, women and children in this church service. So now these people are fearing for their lives, you know, in that. This environment. We've all seen things that have unfolded. So now you have terrified congregants. They go up and he has a. A conflict. Don Lemon has a direct conflict with the. With the. The priest or minister. I don't. The. The priest and the. And. And how is this even, you know, even a topic of discussion from the left?
Chip
How.
Jeff
How can the. The. Some of the media are saying that this is. He was there in a. Journalistic. Even as a journalist, you don't go. Don't go in. What. What are you documenting? And then why are you confronting people? You know, why are you part of this? And now the narrative has imploded on him, you know, and anything he gets for what he did in that environment, that trespass that. That he committed and putting people in fear the way he did, he needs to have the book thrown at him. This guy, he's off his rocker. And any. Anybody on the left who's trying to come to his defense and saying it's somehow freedom of speech, they don't understand. They have no concept of what that means. And that's scary to me that the left is going to try to fight for something that doesn't exist. And, you know, and here we go. You know, it's. It. It. This is. This is such an important battle right now. It's a really, really important battle that we're seeing waged and hit. This stuff has to surface. The big takeaway is that we need kids to start studying and learning the Constitution.
Chip
Yeah.
Jeff
Hate the kids. On. On what? This. On this republic. We don't live in a democracy. We live in a public. We don't live in a parliamentary system like they do over in. In the EU nations. It's a different structure of government. The Europeans don't understand our format of government. Things are also meant. The reason why takes so long to get bills passed. It was meant that way. It was built that way. It. It's a slow roll. It takes time. But once it goes into place, you know, then there. There's court cases and there's a lot of precedent Things built in and around it. You know, it's a, it's a, it's, it's very, very important, though, what we're seeing un. Unfold here. Because the other big thing there's. What's her name? Patty something. She was arrested because she was very outspoken about the fraud and corruption in the electoral system. And so she's actually hopefully going to be let out of jail soon. All of the things and the fraud and deception from the left when it came to the 2020 election, all this stuff is now coming to fruition that it was all true, you know, and, and so we have to get the word out. The media's got to put in their place. We need more transparency across the board. We get transparency through building this whole crypto nation. You know, we need more blockchain. We need more transparency. We need people. We need people.
Chip
100. Yeah. I mean, the whole Tina Peters things are horrible. She's sick and she's in jail because she spoke out. She held the line. She was trying to. She was really just trying to. Just trying to be a whistleblower. And what she discovered and they threw in prison. It's like, well, whatever. And the judiciary is so tainted in this country where they want to overrule any voter id. Listen, this is insane. We'll jump into that. I want to get through some of these other things, too. Another cool thing that's happening that's coming up. Guys. You guys don't want to be part of this, but XRP Community Day is coming up. I will go ahead and put this in here, but you guys should at least go ahead and take a look at this and you can, I think you can create a. There it is right there. But here it is here you can see. On February 11th and 12th of this upcoming month, XRP holders, builders, institutions, Ripple leaders have come together across three live spaces to unpack how XRP is being used today and where it's headed next. Sessions will cover regulated XRP products like ETFs, ETPs, XRP innovation spotlights wrapped XRP new features, expanding XRP Utility and more. With speakers including Brad Garlinghouse, Monica Long, David Schwartz and Stu Aldarati from Ripple and ecosystem partners across EMEA Americas and apac. Dive into the full blog. That kind of tells you everything, which I threw in there. And then crypto already put this out here, too. This is the Apex lineup, which is awesome. You have xrp, Solana, Georgiana Polisari. Hex Trust is going to be there and it's gonna be Moderated by Luke Judges. So I think that's going to be a good one. I really like the content, Luke and things he talks about. It talks a lot about a lot of AI stuff that he's doing. And building this cloud bot is a whole different thing and I'm not getting anywhere near it. You're not taking over my computer, my bank accounts. That is not happening. Defy rocks from Doppler Finance. Uphold the Phil and Dom Kwok will be there. Moderated by Moon or you know, Moon Chaser, which is awesome. XRP Australia, the wave of innovation director. Crypto Queen, better known as Danella. She's going to be. And also Tatsuya Korogi, which he's the. He's the Asian. I think he's. Is he in. Let's see where he is in Japan or. I think he's in Japan. So he's a Japan sort of like representative over there. That'll be a good one. Looking ahead with David Schwartz. David will take questions from the XRP community. So, guys, you always want to ask a question. You want to attend this. I think it's going to be very well attended. It's really something that Ripple has never done before. And to do it on X, which is fantastic because it's really a platform where everybody can take part. So I have a feeling that, who knows, maybe it'll crash it. I see a lot of people, you know, 20, 30,000 people showing up for this, maybe more. The XRP community shares perspective on XRP use cases evolve what matters most. You know, remember, David is no longer with Robot Ripple. He's the former Ripple, but he does sit on the board of Ripple. He is a board member of Ripple, but he's just. Is not the chief tech officer anymore. And there you go right there. XRP community. There's the. The AAPAC series. So February 11th will be a MIA and on the Americas and then on February 12th will be apex. So they'll be scheduled for, you know, the respective, you know, time zones and all that. But I think it's an exciting thing that they're doing. I think it's fantastic that they're actually doing this, that they're, you know, putting something forward. And then another cool event coming up too. Let's talk about XRP L Japan. They basically got a new title sponsor and they're thrilled to announce that Ripple is joining the xrp. And you see this, Jeff. These are people that I love. Why do I love these people? Because this is how it's done. When you put 4, 000 things in. In, you know, an AT based monkey. It's 26-7523. And I gotta. I gotta mouse over every time there's like, well, who's that? Oh, that's so and so. They look like a. But when you do this now, Ripple. Now, I know the only caveat to that is I will not necessarily do it. If the full name is visible, it's one of the few times I will do it. But I love people that do this. This is what I live and die by. That I put the name and in parens I go ahead and I put the. The. Because no one gives a rat's behind about the thing. They just want to know the person. And I don't want to have to go over, you know, based monkey. 642-691-2234. And then, you know, like. Like we did. So it's like all this stuff. Now I know the other. Now the other side of that is if you have a lot of people like crypto areas, tweet, you can't possibly do that. And that post, there's too many people. You just can't. Yeah, but I'm saying normally, you know, this is what I'd like to see. But Ripple's a financial technology company, offers crypto solutions. You know a little bit about Ripple, but this is really cool, too. I would love to go to this. XRPL Japan. I just really love.
Jeff
When is it coming up?
Chip
It's April 7th.
Jeff
Oh, that's right.
Chip
It's happening. Yeah. In Tokyo, guys. So if you want to head over to that, that's going to be great. Let's see what they did they didn't do here.
Jeff
Who is that? Can you. Can you figure that out? Can you read that?
Chip
This is Teams Inc. See that? This is the other thing. You got to do this. You got to do this.
Jeff
And then that one's all in Japanese.
Unknown Speaker 1
So.
Jeremy Hogan
Yeah.
Chip
So there you go. Teams Inc. And Japan summit. Premiere Web3 summit. I guess that's just the summit itself. Yeah. Or a different summit. I don't know.
Jeff
Yep. All right. Hey, hey. It's way past the bottom of the hour.
Chip
Let's go.
Jeff
We got a song here. We got a giveaway. We're going to be giving away another badass yeti. We're giving away a little prowler today, so if you guys haven't.
Chip
Little prowler.
Jeff
That's right. Little.
Chip
But little prowler.
Jeff
Little prowler. And there he is right there. Badass Yeti number 839. This guy is pretty badass. You can see by his look. You know what's interesting about the Little Prowlers is that, man, do. You don't want to run into these guys in the woods because they're small, they look cuddly, they look cute, but, man, they'll just rip your throat out. So.
Chip
Geez, Jeff, that's horrible visual there.
Jeff
It's a horrible, horrible thing. But here we go. Wrote a song about it, so let me play it here.
Chip
Oh, here we go.
Jeff
Cute.
Chip
It is cute.
Jeff
Look at that. Put that curved Eddie. Look at that.
Chip
This is cute.
Jeff
Airy chain in Tokyo.
Chip
That's her other. Look at that YouTube. Okay, there you go.
Jeff
Here we go.
Chip
Throw it out there, Jeff. Let's see this thing. What do we have today? I'm always surprised I sometimes get to hear it. Pre show. We were a little late today, so. I don't know. I get to enjoy it with you guys. I don't.
Jeff
Yeah, you haven't heard this one.
Chip
That was my first time hearing it, too. So I like to see what we're gonna. What's gonna happen.
Jeff
Yep.
Chip
I know Kaufman loved the fact that we do. We were playing the videos. He's like, dude, he was just shocked that we do the, you know, these one off videos. So.
Jeff
Yeah. All right, here we go.
Chip
Hear that? Oh, too late.
Jeremy Hogan
Small shadow moving through the P. Bling ones. Yeah, you just lost time Laugh in the dark, little teeth go green you run one step pro already in not big, not loud don't need that roar speed kills clean when they hits that floor I stay low, heartbeat fast last thing you see, flash past, too close snap, snap, snap. Oh, no. Laugh track echo in the snow Prowler, little prowler run for us, run now back all sun, you don't see us.
Unknown Speaker 2
It'S done Prowlers don't hunt loud we.
Jeremy Hogan
Play games, circle you once, whisper your name Tripwire grin, ankle bo bite clean speed so rude, it don't feel mean Cute face problem, no regret, you hear giggles that's a threat.
Chip
How fast, how quiet?
Jeremy Hogan
Too late, see him coming never see him leave no trace Lil prowler, prowler take your toes step off.
Chip
That laugh that voice born for battle, made for.
Jeremy Hogan
Legend on the chain is on the chain.
Chip
Badassery. Damn, Jeff, that was a banger. I like that. There's a lot going down there to break down. Kids singing and. Yeah, guitars and rapping. Man, that was some good work. Look at that. See? Good work, boys. All the credit goes to Jeff, but I'll Take credit for it. Thanks. Take credit for it. So it's all good. All right. So, yeah, we got. Yeah, you guys type in yeti. What's up, Jackie? Type in yeti. Type it in. We got five. This is horrible. Guys. Type in YETI so you have a chance to win that little prowler. Let's go, people. Banger, indeed. Longview, I did get your. I did get your dm. It's just that I've been running around. I need to respond to it. And we'll figure it out. But don't think I'm ignoring you. It's just I got hit up. Got a lot of messages to go through. So we will do. We will. I will answer you today.
Jeff
Everybody's been commenting in here about the breakout, the XRP breakout. We like putting stuff in the thumbnails in the title that would, you know, kind of draw you in. And it's a discussion point. So breakout. It's a reverse breakout. So XRP has been reverse breakout. Means it's a breakout, it's a buy point. It's crazy, crazy, crazy stuff happening in the stock market and the crypto markets the past couple days. And unexpected on. Definitely unexpected. Something's up. Palantir crashed down to under 150.
Chip
I know, man.
Jeff
That was.
Chip
I was in a nine, so I'm good. When it crashed down to five, I thought, I need to jump on this.
Jeff
Sold every little bit of everything and just put it all.
Chip
I just want to punch myself in the face.
Jeff
Five bucks was buying.
Chip
I was like, what's wrong with me? What? You know, Damn.
Jeff
Especially, I have, what, two. 225, I think.
Chip
Oh, yeah. It was up to. Yeah, it was banging, man. It's gonna be another Nvidia. It's gonna go 300, 350, 400. Not financial advice. Speculation by me. I'm not telling you to do anything I don't even want you to do. I don't want you to buy anything. What do you say about that?
Jeff
We didn't say anything about Palantir.
Chip
No.
Jeff
We just didn't even mention Palantir.
Chip
No. No one even said the word Palantir. Nobody even knows what Palantir means. It's just ridiculous.
Jeff
Jeff, come on. You shorted it. Look at that.
Chip
No, it's not.
Jeff
Smart move.
Chip
I would have been smart, too. That would have been good, too. Yeah, that would have been something, huh, Jeff? Well, what are you gonna do? Let's see. You know, sometimes you. You hit it, and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you win. But let's get into. Let's talk a little bit about this. This Don Lemon thing. So Harvey Levin, who's the guy over at tmz, jumping on his leftist horse, you know, Jeff in it, what kills me is that, like, you know, used to teach civics in. In high school. Like, people knew how government function. The Democrats don't get you. You. They still don't understand. We live in a constitution. Republic which surpasses any is 10 times better than a democracy. Democracy, democracy. And they'll say, it's not democracy, but they won't explain why. It's not democracy, just democracy. It's not democracy. I'm like, okay, well, please let me know. It's the First Amendment. Freedom of speech has nothing to do. And first of all, if you violate the face act, which, you know, barring people from worship. Secondly, you want to know why they went into this church? Because they thought that the pastor was an ICE agent. This is mental illness, okay? Screaming and, you know, like you said, the congregation's just there to worship, and they're in their faces and they're yelling stuff and disrupting the service. Don Lemon's getting in the faces, trying to enter. What are you interviewing a pastor for? When. When you're sitting there doing. This is the problem. It's like, why are you. Why are you doing this? And this whole thing is like, you know, again, optically. Would it have made sense to do that? No, it just creates this weird narrative. And, of course, because people aren't very smart and they don't understand, they'll say, but it's not democracy. He's a fascist and he's a dictator. Well, how about the dictator that a lot of people closed churches down? Remember that dictator and said, you can't worship anywhere? How about the guy Gavin Newsom was having thousand dollar meals at restaurants when everything else was closed down? Huh? What about. What about, you know, you get the shot or you are gonna lose your job, or you can't go here or you can't travel. What about that? You know, and you want to talk about the. There's. There's nothing that allows for that. So to me, it's like, this is an act. You violate the faith act and. Which. I can get into some details on that, but here's Harvey Levin given his take on it. Jeff, here we go. I want to hear your thoughts after we watch this.
Harvey Levin
Trump administration wonders why people are saying that they are trying to form a dictatorship. Well, look at the landscape. Arresting Don Lemon, who covered a protest in Minneapolis Is I've got to stop it there.
Chip
It was not a protest in Minneapolis. A protest is when you're on the street waving sign, not brandishing guns, not looking for a fight, not assaulting ICE agents, not hitting their car. It's a protest. We're allowed to peacefully demonstrate.
Jeff
Right? Yeah. You can peacefully gather, you can voice your opinion, you can do all of that peacefully, but you can't come out and attack police officers. You can't destroy property, you can't burn down. There's just way too much that they wait, they go way over the line, way, way over the line. Then, then you see people on the right kind of gather and, and they're on the side, they'll have their handmade signs and the left have pre printed signs. And then how about the pallets of bricks that always appear in places? And you know, these guys are, are in confrontation, impeding traffic flow, blocking traffic, banging on people's vehicles. And the one thing I learned this past week, week is that, you know, with the ICE agents or law enforcement, even if you hit their car, that's, that's not a lot. That's an infraction.
Chip
Right.
Jeff
And so what did we see with that, that petty guy, whatever his name was, you know, there's video that came out of him harassing, right? And in their face. And then he kicked and destroyed the light on one of the vehicles and then further got in their face and had a full confrontation with them. Lots of anger, tons and tons of anger. You know, he's. And so you know, these, these people. And if you look at everything in, in a vacuum, just a little snapshot, you can try to make opinions, but this is how, you know, it stemmed with the viot culture, you know, the video culture. Now it's just what the, the tweet culture or the, you know, limited. Now, now you're doing it in a little clip or the meme culture. But the video culture was. Oh, I just, I saw it on tv, right. And so, but now it's, now it's worse because now they just look at one little snippet line. They don't want to look at context and they want to make opinion. And then they, they're not educated. I find how stupid is, is society when you have more information in your phone than at any other point in in history. You can educate yourself within moments. You can go back, you can look something up. You can even look up the Constitution. You go get an analysis of the Constitution. You can ask, chat, gp, GPT or one of the others to analyze what the First Amendment is. Then you can go and try to do a comparative analysis and make sure that it's accurate. Then you can read it, you can listen to it, you can watch videos on it. You do all this stuff. Then you have these morons that are out there pontificating and many of them are professionals. Many of them are professionals in this space. You know, for media dumb. They're just dumb people. And, and obviously it's, it's all pre plotted narrative. But then the people that follow and then dance in the streets, most of them are anarchists, communists anyways, and they're paid, paid shills. So there, there's this whole narrative, you know, to say, oh, it's 50 of the country. That's complete. I, I don't believe it. This country is always, always has been and always will be center right. It's never been center left. It won't be center left. It's always center right. And, and that's how, that's where this country lives. And the rest, this notion that they pull, they, that definitely have pulled the Democrat party to the left because they're silent and their silence is complicit. So they're complicit in the extremism of this minority group of crazy people, which puts the entire. I don't care who you are at this point in the Democrat Party. I've seen like Cory Booker came out. I don't even want your support in the crypto space anymore because you're such a deranged lunatic. By supporting these fringe elements in geopolitics, you're destroying our country. What good is your vote on cryptocurrency when you're destroying the country in every other way? What's that? That one guy that we always talk about in New York who always was coming out on, on the right side and now he's been pulled back left like he doesn't know where he belongs. You know, even Fetterman came out on something the other day supporting the wrong side on things. And normally Fetterman is, is pretty, has been pretty center right.
Chip
Yeah, it really has. Look at this. Oh, oh, gold. Jeff rant. Love these. Yeah, Jeff, was. You came in right at the right time. Yeah, man, where you been? Who you got in the Super Bowl? I want to hear who you got. The Chiefs aren't there, but let's, let's, let's go. Hang on a second. I wanted to put this up here. By the way, Jeff, Mark Smithson just nominated you for a Grammy for badass of the year.
Jeff
There we go.
Chip
So it's a little late, but he just nominated you, so I think that's really good.
Jeff
Oh, by the way, current news, we, we had Joe Kaufman on here the other day. We're talking about the Islamists. We're talking about that group of Islamists that were going to be speaking that were holding an event at a Coral Spring city venue. So it's a public venue, you know, and so a city venue. They're hosting this Islamist event. These guys had direct ties to CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood and beyond, which have both been labeled domestic terrorist organizations or a global terrorist organizations. So the attorneys for the city met with the Attorney General of Florida and they said that, oh, we talked to the group. And the group has now separated ties from care, but yet CARE is still on their website. So that's it. They didn't get any. Still funded.
Patrick Bet-David
They.
Jeff
They didn't check anything. They don't do anything. But yet they're. They made that statement. So the event is still taking place today, by the way, that. In. In Cor. So there's a whole thing going on there today between three and six out in front and they're going to have some speeches and, and everything else. It just, it's amazing to me how dumb some of these attorneys can be also. They're going to go and fight the cause, but they don't even look into it. Again, do some research. You're just going to take them at face value that they have an entire history of supporting terrorist entity and now all of a sudden when they get called. Yeah, oh, yeah. No, we, we disavow our affiliation with them. But who's funded you this entire time?
Chip
That's what you have to do. You have to look behind. You got to look underneath the hood and find out where that money the trail is going for. So I was talking about the super bowl here and where's the, where's the image? Where is it? What did I do? I don't know where it went. I can the super bowl end in a tie? It cannot in a tie. But wouldn't that be amazing? You guys both won the Super Bowl. It's like both get trophies. I only have one trophy. So. No, I mean, it can be tied. It can be tied at the end of the game. But, you know, it's weird. It's like somebody has to win. But I don't know. I mean, usually it's gonna happen in that, like that extra, that extra time where, you know, in baseball, my God, it can go 11, 12, 13, 15, whatever. How many innings it takes to get a winner where it generally you kick a field goal and it usually is enough. But I have to say that I'm actually pulling for, I mean, Sam Darnold has an amazing story. I'm pulling for the Seahawks just because Sam Darnold's been kicked around like a, like, you know, just like discarded. I mean, the jets drafted him, they almost ruined his career. Then he went to a couple other teams, then the mini. Then he got, he got cut last year saying, you're not good enough to be our, our, you know, our quarterback. He got caught and he got picked up by Seattle and boom, here he is at a Super Bowl. I don't let people want to say Drake May, it's like the Drake Maze to me is just, you know, he'll probably grow into a really good quarterback. He's just very overrated. And man, if I have to watch one more of his wife's videos in my feed, clogging it up. And the problem is I always click on it and it's just, I, I can't, I can't do them anymore. They're just. I'm sorry, you're not going to be an influencer. It's not your thing. You know, it's like you don't have that charisma. You're making stuff that nobody wants to eat. I don't know, it's a weird thing. I mean, God bless her, they're. They're a good couple. They're, you know, I think Drake May will turn into a really amazing quarterback, but if you look at his numbers in the playoffs, they've been just dismal. You can look at somebody like Mahomes that crushed it in playoffs and just destroyed it in the playoffs. Look at someone like from a. Homes from before, you know, the Super Bowls they've been to. Look at Brady. Look at these stats that they had. And you look at like 40 yards in passing. I'm sorry, man, that's not. And you're going to the Super Bowl. It's just not, not a good, not a good look at all. But again, I'm gonna have to root for the, for the Seahawks. I always rooted for Brady anytime he was in it. Even though they're the same division. Let's watch a little more of this. Jeff. We're not going to watch the whole thing. It's just nauseating. But this guy, tmz, these guys talk about Taylor Swift and what celebrities dating who and who's doing what and, you.
Harvey Levin
Know, it's just insane.
Jeff
Ridiculous.
Chip
And here's the other thing about this. Harvey Levin's. He's. He's an attorney, so he should know better, Jeff. He should.
Harvey Levin
Dictator like this is.
Chip
I love when you say it's dictator like it's dictator.
Jeff
What.
Chip
What kind of moves can this happen? That if it's not cited under u. S. Code. Right. If they're not, nobody gets thrown in prison without citing something. So where's the dictatorship? Dictators don't pay attention to laws. They change the laws. They put people in prison because they felt like it. That is not the case here.
Harvey Levin
The playbook that dictators use to destroy democracies and take the will of the people away, it is as.
Chip
How is he taking the will, the people away?
Harvey Levin
Simple as that. The first amendment is the first amendment for a reason.
Chip
Yeah, he's jacked for an old dude, Jeff. He says that the first amendment. They always cite the first amendment.
Harvey Levin
It is considered the preferred amendment when you have to start balancing what's more important. The framers of the constitution knew that a free press was essential to a democracy. Without a free press, you don't have a democracy.
Chip
Well, free press, they're not above the law either, and they violate the faith act, so it's not. They're not exempt from any laws like we're the free press. By the way, it reminds me of the Detroit free press. Here we go.
Jeff
Another.
Chip
Yeah, so this is the one worth listening to this. So they brought Patrick bet David to get his take on this whole thing.
Harvey Levin
Why don't we start with your take, legit arrest or not.
Patrick Bet-David
You see, this is concerning to me because we need Don lemons out there. We don't need to arrest Don Lemons. We need the opposing ideas. And you guys know Don and I are probably not on the same side politically. But then the other side of it is, if you think about. We set the precedent that if you want to protest outside. And I watched a lot of this stuff closely at the beginning. It was like, maybe Don's just asking the guy questions. And then the clips came out that he was talking to the protesters outside. And then at the end of the clip said, turn it off. I don't want it to be in the camera. And then he said, I never talked to the protesters. I didn't even know what they were doing. He got himself in trouble with this. He should have never done this. He could have just waited for the pastor to come out.
Harvey Levin
I have covered everything. If I were to cover that protest My news director said, go cover it. And I didn't go in the church to cover it. I think I would be fired.
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, so let me ask you this, Harvey, you've been around the block for a while. Who else, what person at his size, at his level of a name and credibility has done this? Who's done this before? Everybody.
Harvey Levin
Everybody.
Patrick Bet-David
To go into a church.
Harvey Levin
I have. I, by the way, I have First Ame church. I did that.
Patrick Bet-David
Okay? So for us, if you look at this and say the following, flip it. So now imagine all of a sudden they say nothing. So this means I'm a 22 year old YouTuber, citizen journalist. Guess what, guys? The government does nothing. Go in the middle of Joel Osteen protest. Go in the middle of Islam. Go in the middle of House of Prayer. Go in the middle, create ruckus. Videos are getting viral. We're getting hundreds of thousands of viewership subscribers, dollars. Is that a good idea? You know what that does.
Chip
About two different things?
Patrick Bet-David
Chaotic. I don't think we are, though.
Harvey Levin
No. What you just said about people going in and disturbing a church service, that's a.
Chip
This is what you always get on the left too. You see how worked up he is. He's about ready to have a breakdown. They always get worked up. People this pose, man, I'm like, okay, that was shit. The fascist behavior and dictator like. And then he flips it and says, well, what if people were going to the mosque and they were creating ruckuses and getting in the people's faces about the protesters?
Harvey Levin
But we're talking about someone who is covering as a journalist, the protesters. There's two separate things. We need Don Lemons, we need Georgia Ford's people.
Patrick Bet-David
We do.
Harvey Levin
Who have opposing views. But then what's your problem with him going inside the church to chronicle what is going on?
Patrick Bet-David
If he. Listen, the lawyer is going to do their jobs. This morning I had Cuomo on the podcast. He's given the argument on both sides and I totally get it. He's got good lawyers. The other side is going to make their own argument. We're going to see what's going to happen. At the end of the day, there's going to be discovery, a lot of things coming out. I am not a fan of people getting arrested because even when the other side did it to Trump, to o', Keefe, to all these guys, I said, this thing's going to flip. This is not what we want. We don't want to be in a mode of arresting. However, if he's accused of Joining the protesters, then going in to create ruckus. Asking questions of the pastor in a house of prayer in a place where people are coming into, you know, a worship, if they can make a case, because we don't have another name at his stature that's done this before. If that does. I think he's going to end up being guilty. But the likelihood of that happening is less than 5%. Don's probably not going to. Nothing's going to end up happening to Don Lemon. Don's going to walk. It's. No, you're right. There's a chance of anything happening.
Harvey Levin
You're right. But look at the backdrop here that you've got now. Don Lemon's arrest. You have a Washington Post reporter where they got a search warrant to find out where she was getting sources from. Who are her sources?
Chip
We have that happened people, you know, during the Biden administration. Peters thought people's computers were broken into, they were monitored. Where was he? Where was he then? No, no, no, no. Didn't give a. About that, Jeff.
Jeff
As soon as it's happening, as soon as their narrative is being called to the mat, this is how they act. They're a bunch of crybaby. You know that. That's what it is. You know, and the thing is, they're. They're anti American. I don't care how you look at it. And I don't agree with Patrick bet David either, you know, because he says a lot of things that are a little off the wall. I used to love him, but he's been saying some things that are a little crazy lately. And so I don't always agree with everything that he says when he goes that route. And in regard to this, he's right about the infraction of going in, but the arresting of it. Don't arrest him. Are you kidding? Of course he had to be arrested, you know, because of what he did. He trespassed. And why is it. Why. Why are we even debating this? Number one, they went into a church. What right do they have to go into that church, into private property and trespass in a church during a church service and impede on other people's rights? Freedom, freedoms. That's their freedom of religion. They're. They're free to be in their. In their space. What right does somebody else have to impede on that? And that's what people don't understand about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech only goes so far until you start impeding somebody else's freedoms and you want to shout at them and you're going to block them from their own freedom. That's no longer freedom of speech. I don't care how you want to spin it. You know, the Constitution doesn't protect you getting in someone else's face when they're do minding their own business, you know, in this situation, in their play, if you want to do it outside, protest outside on the street, you know, who cares? You know, go, go do that. But as soon as you walk through the threshold of the church, it changes the dynamics of it. And now the fact that Don Lemon, there's video of him helping the, these protesters and all the things that he said. And like you said, it's got to go to discovery, it's got to go to court, and then, and then the facts are going to play out. I, I do agree with Patrick that David, I don't think anything's going to happen to him. In the end, though, I think they'll work it out. There'll be some sort of a settlement, he'll pay a fine and that'll be the end of it.
Chip
Yeah. Again for the optics, you know, Patrick bet David, I noticed him doing a lot lately is trying to play. He opens up like we need Donald. He tries to put two sides, and then at the end, he kind of elevate his original thought rather than just holding the line and saying, this is what I think. To me, personally, personally, the optics aren't good there. But I'll tell you what, the face. So the charges Lemon is facing, his violation of the Freedom act, the clinical entrances, which is the face act, that's under 18 USC 248, which prohibits using forced threats, physical obstruction or intimidation to interfere with someone's exercise of religious freedom at a place of worship. The law also protects access to reproductive health clinics, includes houses of worship. Conspiracy against rights under 18 USC 241. Reconstruction Era Civil rights statute originally was aimed at groups like the Ku Klux Klan, but allegedly conspiring to deprive congregants of their First Amendment right to freely exercise religion. And this ties into what you said, Jeff, is like when you're impeding somebody else's right, you know, and saying, well, it's, it's, you know, somebody else's right to be able to exercise their, you know, religion and, and congregate. That's what it was. And a lot of what I think got him in trouble was what. What Patrick Beth David did say was that he was talking to him, seemed like he was part of them. Yeah. He goes in and Asking questions. But this isn't don Lemon from CNN. This is Don Lemon, who has a failed YouTube channel, who can barely. Who. Anybody who pays any mind to him, who was basically like, go from CNN for poor ratings. You know, we need a Don Lemon. Nobody watches this stuff. It's like, he's not. Like, he's the number one, you know, broadcast. He's no Tucker Carlson, and I'm not. And I think the press should be free, but you got to have bounds, you know, you got to have boundaries. I just think, to me personally, it was a bad look.
Jeff
Yeah, it was.
Chip
Was a. I just. It wasn't. It's just you don't get anything from it. You get a lot of negative press and this and that. But then the other side of it is, well, why would you arrest the other protesters? Which nobody's complaining about. Did you notice the protesters? There's no. There's nobody's. Now they're trying to basically separate Lemon as journalists, even though he was basically, in a way, conspiring with the protesters. And protesters. Now nobody's talking about this. Fact is, the reason they broke into someone's church while a service was going on was because they thought that the pastor was an ICE agent. I'm sorry, man. We can't help your mental illness. Where. Why would a pastor. Why would any religious figure. Leader be an ICE agent? Okay. I mean, does that even make any sense? Like, the basic premise of why they went in there and they were harassing him, calling him an ICE agent, harassing the prison, yelling at the. These people are scared, man. If you look on their faces, like, they just busted in. They should have just left. But I think they were scared, you know, I mean, intimidation and stuff. But again, my personal. It's just a bad look all the way around. I don't think it was something that was necessary. But I will watch the rest of this clip here.
Harvey Levin
Lawsuits against the New York Times, Paramount, abc. There is a theme.
Patrick Bet-David
Valid ones. Valid one.
Harvey Levin
Well, we can argue that there is a theme here. And the theme is, you know, if you're a journalist, you could get arrested. They could get a search warrant for your home to find out about your sources.
Patrick Bet-David
I don't like that. I don't like that.
Harvey Levin
There is a theme. Ultimately undercutting the First Amendment.
Patrick Bet-David
Don Light afterwards, I don't know who he was sitting down with. He was sitting down with the same lady that said she wanted to see somebody get killed. I don't know what the lady's name is. It's not Kara. Swisher, it was a different lady. She went viral the day before. He said, I didn't meet these guys. I didn't know what they were doing.
Jeff
If.
Patrick Bet-David
If that is what he said. And he's. He kind of got himself in trouble with this. But for us to see journalists getting arrested and all this stuff, I do not want to go into. This is not good for America. But Don Lemon screwed up here. In my opinion.
Jeff
John Lemon has made it bad for everybody else. One bad seed. It's always the bad seed, right? There's one bad seed that creates all this havoc and then all the attention, but now they're going to label it, you know, for all the. All the journalists. Not every journalist is going to impede on a church service and getting in people's faces because there's also decorum. Just because you're a journalist doesn't give you free rate. And I think that's what has to be learned from it. You know, you can't just hold the journalist title and. And not expect repercussion if you do something that's. That's illegal or an infringement like this. And. And now he's siding with the left, and we know he's on their side anyways to begin with. He wasn't just documenting it, and he gets caught up. And he might have got caught up in the fray or he was plotting and planning because it looked like, you know, from the pre. The. The videos. But it's gotta. It's got to go to court at this point. You know, the guy put him in. In that spot, and that's it there. That's true. There are no true journalists anymore. There are very few, Very few. And. And you see, you know, some of the citizen journalists out there that are trying to collect information and. And do all that, but it's not like it used to be when people would report on the news and, you know, try to give. Just give information. You. You digest it. Here's what happened. Here's kind of the fact of the situation. You digest it.
Chip
Here's. Watch the video of journalist Don Lemon's unprecedented arrest. Just kidding. This is actually an independent journalist Steve Baker, handcuffed by Biden's weaponized FBI for daring to report on J6. Where was the media outrage then?
Jeff
Report on it. Not infringe on any. Any property.
Chip
Exactly. They weren't infringing. They weren't getting people. This is like how they, you know, they turn it all the time, dude.
Jeff
Yeah. Now, if it's on public property, if you're outside on the street, you can film, you can do whatever you want. If you see a public official, you can go over to them, you can ask them questions, you can do whatever you want. They're on, on public property. You know, you see a lot of these auditors going to government buildings. They'll go to police stations and they'll go and do a vehicle audit and you'll see different things that unfold. There's that other Caitlyn, I forget the, the girl's name, but she does her videos and she was actually at a farmer's market up in Lakeland and then Winter Garden. And they tried to kick her out of the farmer's market because, because she was asking people questions and they said, this is private property. She said, where are we? Is this public or. And they're like, no, this is public property. But, but they're using the space for the farmers market. Said, yeah, but they're not renting. It's still public property. It's not, it's not private property just because they have a farmer's market going on. And they strong armed her, they brought a bunch of security guards and then the police. And then she ended up at Lakeland. She sued them for a huge sum of money in one. And then she went after Winter Garden. The lawyers got involved that same day and she was back at the farmer's market the following day. Because there's, it's that, that's the distinction, right? That's public property. You go into a church, that's private property. And, and you can't impede. And that's where, you know, imagine you go into a, imagine you go into a mosque. All right, Don Lemon wouldn't go to a mosque in Minnesota right now. You wouldn't see that happen. Because the moment you do that, then all of a sudden, you know, it's going to be chaos. The whole narrative from the left would be chaos. But the fact that they were arresting people, you know, after, you know, if associated with the J6 and all they talk about was that as an insurrection. The real insurrection happened in 2020 when they defrauded the American people votes, that was an insurrection. What we're seeing happen in Minnesota right now, that's an insurrection. When you have elected officials, a governor and a mayor coming out and saying they will not abide by, by federal law and they won't abide by federal agents and they won't put their police to defend their own people on the streets, and they're doing it to protect illegal people here. That have potentially even been voting illegally. And the fraud, the level of fraud, and the billions of dollars that have been funneled through that.
Chip
That.
Jeff
That state, and they're going to come out and do that. To me, that's an insurrection.
Chip
Here's Don Lemon's statement right here. Last night, the DOJ sent a team of federal agents to arrest me in the middle of the night for something that I've been doing for the last. Breaking in the churches, violating the face. I just say 30 years, and that is covering the news. The First Amendment of the Constitution protects that work for me and for countless of other journalists who do what I do. I stand with all of them, and I will not be silenced. I look forward to my day in court. Yeah, I look forward to it, too. Not really. I really don't care, to be honest with you. I'm with Patrick Beth David. It's like, you know what, man? There's a lot of things that are way more important. Important than to be worried about Don Lemon, who's got zero audience. And one of the clips I was watching, Jeff, I was previewing it to see if it was good to download. He was talking to that leftist nut job podcaster, and he goes, you know, because I was a journalist is what he said. I was like, was a journalist. Okay, so you're no longer a journalist. You're a disruptor. You're a guy that gets in people's faces and, you know, just basically attacks them. Right. Something I want to put up. This is Kevin War. She's. He's nominated for the Fed chair. And if someone pulled this clip of.
Unknown Speaker 2
Him, which is interesting, you made reference to bitcoin. And I.
Chip
That's the new Fed chair. It's so funny. I'm like, it's weird. You have a Fed chair that has a haircut from 1974. But that's okay. I'm not. I'm not really too worried about that. I'm more worried about the policy. But I was just like, oh, okay, this might be. This might be from 1974. Who knows?
Unknown Speaker 2
Thought I heard a little bit of condescension that people are buying bitcoin in these things.
Jeff
But doesn't it.
Chip
Charlie Munger.
Jeff
This is two or three years before he died, Charlie Munger attacked bitcoin. He called it evil, in part because.
Unknown Speaker 3
It would begin to under.
Chip
He's wearing bitcoin, orange tie.
Jeff
Mind the Fed's ability to manage the.
Unknown Speaker 2
Economy or could provide market discipline, or it could tell the world that things need to be fixed. Bitcoin does not make you nervous. Bitcoin does not make me nervous. I can hearken back to a dinner I had here in 2011 with a someone who is another guest on your show. I won't say his name.
Chip
Please do. Okay.
Unknown Speaker 2
I just did. Mark Andreessen, who showed me the white paper. That was the original white paper. I wish I had understood as clearly as he did. How transformative.
Chip
Let me translate what he just said. Mark Andreessen showed me early days the Satoshi white paper and I missed the buy signal. And I wouldn't be here talking to your stupid ass because I'd be. I'd have you know, I'm $40 million in the bank right now. That's what he's really saying right there.
Jeff
Island somewhere.
Chip
I didn't understand it at the time. I didn't know how it would be transformative.
Unknown Speaker 2
Bitcoin and this new technology would be. Bitcoin doesn't trouble me. I think of it as an important asset that can help inform policymakers when they're doing things right and wrong. It is not a substitute to the dollar. I think it can often be a very good policeman for policy.
Chip
So he's just very pro bitcoin. You know, there's no, there's a reason this guy was chosen, right? And as soon as you get that other wackadoodle partisan hack, they go, we need an independent voice, the Fed. Well, great. I would love to have it in the poise, but we got a partisan hack old dude that, that. Do you remember right before the election, he, he, he basically went ahead and dropped the interest rate. Remember that, Jeff? Before an election with 9.4% inflation. So this is a partisan hack all the way. And it's like, you know what this is? A guy needs to go to prison because he testified before Congress. He lied about everything. Oh, no, we're not building that. Oh, no. Why do they need restaurants? Why does the Federal Reserve, which is a basic shakedown mafia run organization, built upon debt and stealing, you know, the sovereignty from Americans. Why is this organization building these luxurious offices on the back and it's like $2 billion over budget. Say what you will about Trump, Trump is a builder. All the money for this new part of the White House that's being built, all done with private funds and it's all on budget and it's all on time. So if he knows how to do anything, he knows how to build. Why is this 2, 3, 4 billion dollars over budget or whatever it was? I'm not sure if we're getting the number right, but it's just exorbitant. Over overrunning costs. And then about everything. It's like when you are testifying, you are under oath, and if you lie, go ahead, get discovery. Find out what this whack a doodle did. I'm all for bringing them in. If you want to sit there and lie about it. You're asking real simple questions and you lied about it. So this guy's out in May, Kevin Wars. You know, the Democrats are gonna hold her. You know, try confirm a guy like this. You're gonna need a Fed chair. Try to, like, draw it out so Powell could stay on. But Powell's gone. Another. Another jackass loser.
Jeff
Another wacko. Dean Robinson said, guys, I'm up here in Minnesota and not one. One thing you've said is wrong. Thanks for the straightforward honest take from Florida. There you go. That's right. Everything we said was 100.
Chip
I like, say everything is right, but every once in a while we do. We do miss things. But. And don't worry. People call us out, but I do. I mean, it's Florida. Yeah, he was. Well, he used to have a place in Miami. I knew he used to live next to Lonnie Krause. I think that's how he ended up doing the, the, the. What do you call it, the party up there. Yeah, but the Federal Reserve is just a shakedown. You know, I think if I'm reading between the lines, Trump's trying to basically just. He'll take the federal. To pull it into the Treasury. The Fed has got to go away. And when this, when they. There's a. You want. People want to always reference the framers. Framers did not want a central bank. They rallied again. So we got rid of two central banks. This one since 1913. And then Trump brings the tariffs back as how the country used to be funded. I'm telling you that if he can make it work. So people making a hundred thousand dollars or less or 150or less don't have to pay federal tax. And everything you make, you keep. Unless you live in California, you got to give up 13 of that. But on top of what the federal tax is, I'm telling you that's a new day in America. Nope. President since the. Since the. We dropped the gold standard has even attempted something like this. Now will he do it? I don't know. It's a bold statement. Will he be able to pull it off? I don't know. But what has to be pulled off is you got to get rid of the Fed. The Fed is an absolute shakedown garbage organization. It's so bloated. We've never audited the Fed. Do you think in our federal government all the fraud that was found, they're estimating one third or more of the actual budget for years has been fraud. You had a machine that, that, that was just sitting there printing money and sending payments. There was no ledger. It was just going. And then Elon Musk shut it down. You got the Democrats, oh, you can't do this. And the fraud and US aid and it's saving children and children are dying. Well, where are they with children? What country? And, and, and if they donated, if they donated money to these orgs, about less than, less than like 3, 4% actually ever went to the them. So they were getting almost nothing anyway. It was all being funneled. That's why you put the stuff on the blockchain. You got a chain of command. You're not going to be able to alternate, you know, the ledger because it's blockchain. And you'll find out that chain of command where those payments end up. Another thing that the Democrats don't want because you've exposed them and they don't want, they don't want. Look what happened in Virginia. I got that video too. It's just insane, Jeff, to see what is happening left and right. It's just being.
Jeff
Well, the thing was with that, with that chip is that Trump is playing 3D chess. Everybody else is playing. They're not even playing on a board. They're playing Mark. They don't even understand the board game. Yeah, at least they could be playing checkers, but they haven't even moved to the board game yet, you know, and, and Trump just outplays him. He's outmaneuvering them at every step. It's so amazing. The stuff that is unfolding even on, on a global scale look at the UN is about to implode. You know, so for the UN to implode, they're appealing to 183 member nations to start paying their, their dues to the UN because they're going insolvent. Now that's, that's a great thing. The UN hasn't done anything, you know, positive a long time. Replace it, dismantle most of it. There's a lot of fraud. All that money that pours into the U.N. think about how much wealth is created within the U.N. and these guys run around, you know, all these so called diplomats from all these countries. So it's Amazing.
Chip
It's.
Jeff
It's amazing, you know, on a global scale, Trump is, is moving pieces around the world and people don't even realize, you know, and that what's gonna happen in Iran right now. And even holding Saudi Arabia to a country account because Saudi Arabia. There's conflicting information coming out in the media regarding Saudi Arabia. Somebody from Saudi came out and said that Trump has to fulfill and go after Iran. He said he's going to do it. It'll make it more dangerous in Iran if you don't. So you have to. And then today they came out from Saudi Arabia saying they won't allow us to use their airspace or something along those lines. So there's all this stuff going on, misinformation. And just like the first time around with Iran said, no, we're not going to do it, not going to do it. And boom, did it. And so now a lot of misinformation. There could be an action over in Iran imminent, you know, somewhere in the near future. And something, something big is about to happen because of the checker. The, the chessboard being played right now, you know. Oh, this is great. So funny.
Chip
The reverse breakout be great. Then I can work its way to 30 cents. That's one hell of a reverse breakout, man.
Jeff
That's right.
Chip
TMZ crew are getting.
Jeff
We were talking about checkers and there's the checkerboard. Do you see that?
Chip
Yeah, the checkerboard. Murder checkerboard. Harvey and the TMZ crew lost all credibility. They caught laughing open mics from Charlie Kirk. You remember that?
Jeff
Oh, yeah.
Chip
They were on air and they were.
Jeff
Laughing and then they claimed they have about credibility.
Chip
Nobody even cares about these people and these celebrities. They used to have so much clout. Nobody cares. We're all over it. We don't. We. Nobody gives a crap. So this guy breaks beautifully, breaks down. I love this channel. His. His post over on Next. But he breaks down what's going on inside of Virginia. Virginia. The reason the governor won is she said, I'm gonna cost for everyone. I'm gonna make a living easier. Utopia. Beautiful. Democracy. Democracy works for all. Well, here's what happened about two weeks ago.
I
Y' all gave Democrats in Virginia complete control. And in those two weeks, not only have they passed more than 50 new taxes, but they've also given themselves 150 raise. Is this what you voted for? Let me just tell you some of these. So first off, they added additional local sales tax. They added new personal and property tax on electric leaf blowers and electric landscape equipment. So if you went and cleaned green instead of using the gas powered, you're about to pay for it. There's a new employer tax, a new gun and ammo tax, a delivery tax, which will hit you if you use UberEats, DoorDash, Amazon Investment income tax, an event tax, a concert tax, a storage facility tax. So if you have stuff in storage, you got to pay an extra tax for that. A gym membership tax. Can't have you all getting healthy or anything. A dog walking tax and a dog grooming tax. Counseling tax. You know, for those of you that are seeing a therapist, New digital personal property tax. They haven't given us the details on that one. A new car tax, a used car tax. They're adding an additional hotel tax, a dry cleaning tax, a home repair tax, a vehicle repair tax, and round it all off statewide speed cameras. And then remember, for all of their efforts, they gave themselves a 150% raise. This is what you get when Democrats have complete power. I hope you enjoy it, Virginia.
Chip
I hope they, I hope it hurts them so bad. I hope they can't get up in the morning without complaining about it. But they'll never come. They'll never put it on them. They'll be like, look, the pain has to be so bad. It's the only way you can rebuild. I don't think Gavin Newsome, he thinks he's going to be the next president, dude. I don't think he's going to make it to the primary. This guy is in, is in such chaos. I mean he's a, a complete nut of this dude.
Jeff
You will be taxed on.
Chip
Do you have a dog with you and will you be going to a dog groomer because you pay three taxes on the way over there. It's fantastic.
Jeff
You know what's crazy too? Chip is in, in New York, New York. There they had their series of laws that went through and one of them is that they have a no speed tolerance. So even so now the police can pull you over even if you go one mile over the speed limit. Just one mile over the speed limit just to mess with one to ten points. One to ten points if you're going one mile over the speed limit.
Chip
Where is this?
Jeff
New York? State of New York.
Chip
God, it's such a, it's such, it's such overkill, dude. What the hell?
Jeff
One mile. Could you imagine if they did that here? Traffic would be at a standstill. First of all, I don't think anyone would, would abide by it because it's impossible. But I just. I can't. I can't imagine it. It's insane. Sidewalk wear and tear tax. That's exact there. They will come up with any form of tax just to just attacks. That's it. And now you know, my God, it's. It's insane. Newsome is their guy, right? Yeah, Newsome. They're so stupid.
Chip
I'm telling you, dude, it's. You know what it was? They instead of closing the insane asylums because people used to go to insane Salem. So you know, Dr. Oz who's in the Trump administration now found a bunch of fraud. Now you gotta give this guy a little bit of credit because he's dumb enough to spin it that they knew about the fraud and they were doing something about it, right? So this is how he spins it. Like there's no shame with this guy. But this is Newsom because they came out and they found these billion dollar fraud. But news that listen to way Newsom spins is Jeff Oz.
Harvey Levin
Might have.
Unknown Speaker 3
Well, you're living in Oz. When he went down attacking the Armenian community just a few days ago, a business is down now 30%. Poor guy, small businessman, poor guy running a bakery because he decided to do a little TikTok video or something.
Chip
Or something.
Unknown Speaker 3
Saying they're somehow connected to the mob around Host Hospice. Hospice. We've been after that for years and years before oz.
Chip
He's been after it for years and years, Jeff. But the fraud is still there. This is the. This is the greatest spin attempt I've ever seen in my life.
Unknown Speaker 3
It was even on the scene 2021. We did a moratorium on new hospice.
Chip
Program 285 years ago and it still didn't get fixed.
Jeff
We shut nothing.
Unknown Speaker 3
We've been after this for years and years and years. We want an open hand, not a closed fist. We.
Chip
I love when they throw these euphemisms out. We want an open hand, not a closed fist. What the fuck does that even mean?
Unknown Speaker 3
Absolutely are here to go after waste, fraud and abuse. I started something called odi Office Digital Innovation. I did not. My mistake. Do it with a chainsaw.
Chip
Now he's talking about odi. What does this have to do with the fraud we were after for years? 2021. Okay, so you fixed it in 21.
Unknown Speaker 3
No, had I done that, you would know about it. We just began the Office of Digital Innovation and we started to begin a process of reforming our procurement and our strategies on technology across the board, but also on the issues of waste bottom boost. By the way, ODI was a partnership with the Halton Human service to create the new EBD card, which I have.
Chip
No idea what he's talking about. I don't know why he broke into odi. What he's talking about, I have no clue. Jeff.
Jeff
That's a guy who sold me an extended car warranty.
Chip
Hey, hey. That's fantastic. The Dodge Dart. I think he is the poster.
Jeff
Two hours in front of the mirror.
Chip
I really think he is the poster child for that. I don't see anybody else. That's, you know, it's insanity. All right, one more here and we'll go ahead and do the. The drawing here. But I wanted to show this one because, well, there's two of them I got here. Jeff, these are both worth seeing. You know, the whole petty guy, the guy that was killed, they pitched him. So you got to see him reading. You got to see Pocahontas here, just reading this. And then we'll go into Obama Trump. Here we go. So let's do this. This is her reading her statement with Alex Petty in the background, assaulting the ICE agents car, and then starts calling him out.
Jeff
Caring for people was at the core of who he was. He was incapable of calling, causing harm.
Chip
Alex carried patience, kicks the tail light.
Jeff
Passion and calm as a steady light within him calls him out. Even at the very end, that light was there. I recognized his.
Chip
Whoever did this is just brilliant. Her talking about what a great guy was with the background narrative collapsing, familiar.
Jeff
Stillness and signature calm composure.
Chip
Now, it's horrible that this man lost his life.
Jeff
He should have been arrested at that moment. He would have saved his life.
Chip
I'm not making light of that. But just what do you. Why are you inciting violence? Why are you kicking a tail light out? Why are you telling the guy to come get me? Why are you resisting? Like, all of this stuff is like. Like, why would you do this? Why do you bring it on yourself? Why are you attempting to do this? And so let's listen to Obama now. They cleverly made him look like Trump when he made this statement. Jeff, this is great. This is a real Obama clip. Of course they gave him the Obama hair. If you guys are listening to the.
J
Audio podcasts, and often this argument is framed in moral terms. Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living? I recognize the sense of compassion that drives this argument, but I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration, and it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.
Jeff
There you go.
Chip
She said, I forgot about that. Obama. Who's. Who the hell Obama? Who's that?
Jeff
People did he deport, by the way? Millions.
Chip
Well, yeah. Millions. Well, yes and no. One of the things that he. It looked like it was so high was the same as Biden. So Biden got credit for all these. So if you showed up at the board, you got turned around, it was called deportation. They never came in the country. They were just turned around at the border, and that's how they were able to say that their numbers were big. So they turned around a certain number of people and it looked as though, oh, we deported them. They never even came in the country. So, you know, a little bit of. A little bit of magic with those numbers there. But let's pepper balls face.
Jeff
Oh, my God, that hurts.
Chip
I want to puke.
Jeff
Yeah. Every time I see Obama, that's it.
Chip
No, I think his. Tom Trump always mentions his name. I think that. I think his time's coming as well. It's just.
Jeff
That's another.
Chip
A little bit, but, you know, it's going to be like, whatever side's in, then they'll go prosecute all their enemies, and then the other one will come in. They'll prosecute their enemies and this and that and blah, blah, blah. It's too much. Ah, Trump should do the same exact speech and say, oh, but did you like that? That was Obama speech.
Jeff
Exactly.
Chip
Unbelievable. Jeff. Let's play that amazing tune again. I gotta see that. Here we go.
Jeff
One more time. Here we go. It's not the big boys. All right, here we go.
Chip
Hear that? Oh, too late.
Jeremy Hogan
Small shadow moving through the pond. Blue ones. Yeah, you just lost time. Laugh in the dark, little teeth go green. You run one step. Prowler already in. Not big, not loud. Don't need that roar. Speed kills clean. When it hits that floor, I stay low. Heartbeat fast. Last thing you see, flash past, too close. Snap, snap, snap. Oh, no. Back. You don't see us.
Chip
It's done.
Jeremy Hogan
Prowlers don't hunt loud. We play games. Circle you once, whisper your name. Tripwire grin. Ankle bite, clean speed. So rude. It don't feel mean. You face Problem. No regret. You hear giggles that's a threat.
Chip
How fast?
Jeremy Hogan
How quiet? Too late. See them coming, See him leave no trace. Lil Prowler, take your toes. Step off. That's your choice.
Chip
That laugh at voice.
Jeremy Hogan
Voice.
Chip
Born for battle, made for legend.
Jeremy Hogan
On the chain is on the chain.
Jeff
Badassery.
Chip
That was awesome, man. Some sponge that Trump gave. Got hell for it. Well, it's just the whole thing. It's never. It's never what they say. It's just who said it. That's the problem they have. That's like just a bunch of the. Jeff, we have eight, 15 in here. Jeff. I don't know. That happened. Fifteen people. Can we get it to 20? Who's going to type in Yetai? Yetai? Y E T I Yatai the Jedi. Here we go. It's here. Jeff. I think that'll be good place to go.
Jeff
So it's time to go.
Chip
Let's go, guys. You ready for this? Let's go. Put the music on. Jeff.
Jeff
Is zip Nab.
Chip
Zif Nab, are you here? Say I'm here. Say I'm present. Bam. Winter winner. Chicken dinner.
Jeff
Have a.
Chip
Congrats. Zif.
Jeff
You have a zombie.
Chip
That's the other question.
Jeff
Zifnab, do you have a Zaman wallet?
Chip
It could be a Joey wallet. It could also be. Yeah, it could be a Joey wallet. It could also be. What's the other. What's the other wallet? I'm thinking about just trying to think.
Jeff
The other one works too.
Chip
I think it's bit frost too. Works. I think so. I think it does. Anything that can connect to the.
Jeff
I know. Zombie definitely works.
Chip
Yeah. So we're gonna need your address, dude, we need your address.
Jeff
We need your wallet address. Give us your. All right. Sweet. He is here. Zip net. We need.
Chip
I know you're here, dude, but just let us know you're getting your wallet address. Open your. If you open up the zombie wallet, hopefully you have a zombie. You can do like a Joey wallet or whatever. But when you open up the Zaman. Zaman.
Jeff
There he goes. Look at that.
Chip
All right, so it's responsive. I like this. This is good. When you open it up, it's copy.
Jeff
And paste your Zaman wallet over here. We're going to transfer this bad boy over.
Chip
Click on the green light that says receive and then you hit copy. And then I'll copy your.
Jeff
Yes, he has a zombie, too. Nice.
Chip
Beautiful. Let's go, baby. Winner, Winner. Man, I like to see that some new people winning. This is good. This is good. Fan freaking Tastic, man, it was rigged against Charles. Charles. Charles is the winningest in history here. He's still the winningest in 2026 too, I think it's not even that long and he's already the winningest. You know.
Jeff
Gonna take him to the casino. To the casino.
Chip
All right, well, Jeff, while you're doing that, I want to remind people because sometimes people forget they have short term memory loss. But this is what was before January 20, 2025. This is what we were dealt with for four years.
Unknown Speaker 1
America is a nation that can be defined in a single word. I was going to put him.
Chip
There. It is on the map, Jeff. I don't know if you knew where that was. This is funny because they put all this stuff on maps. Look at that. Okay, right, that's going to be defined in one single word. Here we go.
Unknown Speaker 1
Give me the foothills of the Himalayas with Xi Jinping.
Jeff
There it is.
Chip
Hills of the Himalayas, Jeff. What?
Jeff
Hills of the Himalayas.
Chip
That's right, Himalayas. That's where the yetis are. The foothills of the Himalayas.
Unknown Speaker 1
Now I want to hand it over to the President.
Chip
I'll just. You see this like he's in front of Zelensky. I don't know if you remember this, but he's in front of Zelensky here. He says he wants to hand it to him. Look at the look on Zelinsky's face. This is great.
Unknown Speaker 1
The President of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has determination. Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin.
Chip
President. President Putin. So now he's going to Ukraine and typing in President Putin in Ukraine.
Jeremy Hogan
Minnesota.
Chip
Mini Minnesota Zifnab.
Jeff
You are about to have your first badass yeti in the white tribe of clan Lil prowlers. It is now yours. You now have him. Badass Yeti number 8. 39. Nice one. Congratulations for winning. Shoot in your. Throw in your. Your X handle if you have one as well. That'll be awesome.
Chip
Live episode. Beautiful vaccine side effects. There we go. So it's not Minnesota, it's Minnesota.
Jeff
Minnesota.
Chip
There's a Minnesota right there. It's got a little can with the Minnesota Rick and Minnesota. Let's see what else we got here.
Jeff
I love it.
Unknown Speaker 1
You know, with you in Angola, the a vibrant city.
Chip
There's Angola.
Unknown Speaker 1
We're going to end and we're going to help. We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean.
Chip
What I love when you see the graphic across the ocean. The greatest thing in the world, man. Whoever did this is to build a.
Unknown Speaker 1
Railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean.
Chip
There you go.
Unknown Speaker 1
Watch a railroad we have plans to build in Angola. Inflation is a worldwide problem right now because of a war in Iraq and the impact on oil and what Russia is doing.
Chip
There's Russia, Iraq.
Unknown Speaker 1
Initially the president of Mexico.
Chip
Cece president of Egypt. Sorry. So he puts Mexico.
Unknown Speaker 1
We stand with you. Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he'll never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people.
Chip
There's Iran, there's K. And there you go. Thanks heart to the your outspokenness and the supportive people.
Unknown Speaker 1
Check. The sky is the limit.
Chip
Funny checklist. Yeah. Let's see. You caught three, four decades in the past there, Joe.
Unknown Speaker 1
I mean it is limitless. There's no reasons. The nation of Africa.
Chip
The nation of Africa. So on the map they're erasing all the boundaries and just making the whole country the nation of Africa. The nation of Africa, Jeff. Not the continent, the nation. Yeah, this is still my favorite one.
Unknown Speaker 1
America is a nation that can be defined in a single word.
Chip
Oh, really? What is it?
Unknown Speaker 1
I was gonna put him foot.
Chip
So Nif nab wins winner, man. Love it. Great. Fantastic. Guys, chicken dinner. God help the historians fix this perk in the books. Yeah, it's hysterical. Bulleting of his political career. Started making it public towards the end. All right, guys, that's it. It's all time we have. We'll be back tomorrow night.
Jeff
Tomorrow night, 8pm Eastern Standard Time. If you guys are brand new here, give a thumbs up. Give a like. Give a follow. Make sure you're subscribed so you can get the.
Chip
Do we get Zif Nabs a handle for the.
Jeff
Did not put his action.
Chip
Yeah, put your X handle in there if you have one. If you don't just have to have an X handle.
Jeff
Yeah, if you don't.
Chip
But yeah. I don't know, man. It's just. I don't know. The whole thing's gotten weird and Brady was crying in his thing and just a lot of passion and built up stuff, man. I mean, you know, just knowing you screwed up, but whatever.
Jeff
So that's all we got. We are out of here. We'll be back tomorrow night, 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time. Be there or be square.
Chip
Did you say that? I'm pretending to hear that. Okay, see you later guys. Have a productive weekend. If it's late there, get some sleep. We will talk to you guys soon. Shipping Jeff. Ouch.
Jeff
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Chip
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Jeff
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Chip
It didn't I didn't. I didn't.
Jeff
We're still here.
Chip
Yeah. I don't know what happened.
Jeff
We're still live.
Chip
I know. We're still live. I don't know what happened. Let's try it again.
Jeff
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Chip
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On The Chain
Episode: XRP BREAK OUT | Global Reset | Institutions React | Regulation Tested
Date: January 31, 2026
Hosts: Chip & Jeff (with contributions from Jeremy Hogan)
This episode dives deep into the current dynamics and pivotal developments in the blockchain and crypto sector, particularly focusing on XRP. The hosts explore the ongoing regulatory tides, shifting global financial power structures ("global reset"), and how institutional players and legislation are rapidly adapting. They also highlight the enduring strength and unique camaraderie within the XRP community, pay tribute to a fallen community member (Darren Moore), and examine the intersection between politics, media narratives, and digital asset adoption.
The tone remains candid, direct, and community-driven, with Chip and Jeff separating hype from substantive analysis.
“XRP isn’t really moving in isolation though. It’s really moving because clarity, structure, real utility are basically colliding with systems that were really never designed for transparency.” — Chip [00:36]
“…the cabal, so to speak, is fighting back, trying to maintain their power because they don’t like transparency.” — Jeff [00:55]
“People who want to assimilate also preserve culture. You don’t let people in who want to change the culture, keep them where they are.” — User Comment, quoted by Chip [10:15]
“His first instinct was to post about it, about how it happened so that no one else would make the same mistake. That was his nature...” — Jeremy Hogan (reading tribute) [23:45]
“As I’ve seen before, clarity is better than chaos. The legislative process can be messy and complex, but it’s 100% necessary...” — Read by Jeff [32:48]
“Freedom of speech only goes so far until you start impeding somebody else’s freedoms…” — Jeff [66:45]
“…the charges Lemon is facing… violation of the Freedom act, which prohibits using force, threats, physical obstruction or intimidation to interfere with someone’s exercise of religious freedom at a place of worship.” — Chip [68:54]
On Financial Reset:
“What we’re watching right now looks a lot like the early stages of a global financial reset.” — Jeff [00:01]
On Blockchain & Decentralization:
“I think about AI, blockchain, the idea of decentralization… They want the government off their back. …They want to build wealth, and they look out for their families.” — Chip [01:37]
On Community:
“It’s really amazing… people all over the world that you get to engage with and share a passion with.” — Jeff [21:00]
On Regulation:
“Clarity is better than chaos… It’s 100% necessary to have clarity for this and future generations of crypto entrepreneurs, builders and users...” — Brad Garlinghouse (read by Jeff) [32:48]
On Freedom and Law:
“Freedom of speech only goes so far until you start impeding somebody else’s freedoms…” — Jeff [66:45]
On the Fed:
“…the Federal Reserve, which is a basic shakedown mafia run organization built upon debt and stealing… the sovereignty from Americans…” — Chip [81:28]
This dense episode from “On The Chain” combines in-depth crypto news with unsparing political and cultural commentary. The hosts dissect the implications of real-time regulatory changes, the growing might of the XRP community, and the intertwining of technology, transparency, and global power. Meanwhile, they celebrate community bonds, call for honesty and accountability in both media and government, and look ahead to major XRP developments.
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