XRP | Ripple’s Global Power Move: $RLUSD, Kenya, & Congress in Chaos

Summary

Podcast Summary: On The Chain - Blockchain and Cryptocurrency News + Opinion Episode: XRP | Ripple’s Global Power Move: $RLUSD, Kenya, & Congress in Chaos
Release Date: July 12, 2025
Host: On The Chain (Jeff)
Co-Host: Chip

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1. Introduction and Overview

The episode kicks off with Jeff and Chip welcoming listeners back to "On The Chain." They outline the main topics of discussion, including Ripple's expansion with RLUSD in Kenya, upcoming conferences like Apex 2025 in Singapore and Swell in New York City, and the escalating political tensions surrounding cryptocurrency legislation in the U.S. Congress.

2. Ripple’s RLUSD Rollout in Kenya

Timestamp: 00:00 - 10:14

Jeff introduces Ripple’s RLUSD (Ripple USD) initiative in Kenya, highlighting its transformative impact on remittances. The duo discusses how RLUSD is replacing XRP in this context, offering faster, more transparent, and cost-effective transactions compared to traditional remittance methods.

Notable Quote:

Jeff (06:08): "This is a massive opportunity. I'm excited about the new asset classes that we can't even imagine today."

3. Apex 2025 and RippleX Initiatives

Timestamp: 03:34 - 07:18

Chip elaborates on the Apex 2025 conference hosted by RippleX in Singapore, emphasizing its role in advancing tokenization, stablecoins, and the programmability of the XRP Ledger (XRPL). They also mention the upcoming Swell conference in New York City scheduled for November, aiming to further develop the XRPL community and infrastructure.

Notable Quote:

Chip (03:34): "We're at a turning point. We're not just modernizing finance, we're making it more inclusive, accessible, and programmable."

4. Stablecoins vs. Traditional Remittances

Timestamp: 08:43 - 10:14

The hosts compare stablecoins to traditional remittance methods, focusing on aspects such as settlement speed, cost, transparency, accessibility, and reliability. They argue that stablecoins like RLUSD offer significant advantages, including near-instant settlements and lower fees.

Notable Quote:

Chip (09:14): "Where the RLUSD is fully traceable and verifiable. On the accessibility side, you got digital first. There's no banks required."

5. Ripple’s University Initiative and UBRI Collaboration

Timestamp: 10:40 - 12:09

Jeff and Chip discuss Ripple's University Blockchain Research Initiative (UBRI) at the University of Kansas. This project, led by Dr. Perry Alexander and the Spencer Museum, explores blockchain storytelling and community memory, showcasing how blockchain technology can empower public ownership and digital expression beyond financial applications.

Notable Quote:

Jeff (11:12): "Ripple launched the university blockchain research initiative to support academic research driving new utility and long-term impact of crypto."

6. Supporting the Channel: Coffee and Yeti Giveaways

Timestamp: 15:07 - 17:50

The conversation shifts to how listeners can support the channel. Jeff and Chip promote purchasing high-quality, freshly roasted coffee and buying Yetis from XRP Cafe. They also mention ongoing giveaways, encouraging audience engagement and support.

Notable Quote:

Chip (15:07): "That's always rigged. So that's always right."

7. XRP Market Analysis and Bitcoin Relationship

Timestamp: 16:49 - 27:02

Jeff and Chip analyze the recent XRP price movements, attributing the latest pump primarily to Bitcoin's surge rather than Ripple-specific developments. They discuss the potential impact of ISO 22022 standards and the approval of various Bitcoin ETFs on XRP’s market performance, contemplating a possible decoupling of XRP from Bitcoin in the future.

Notable Quote:

Chip (21:26): "When XRP finally decouples from Bitcoin, which who knows if it ever does, then you'll see it."

8. RLUSD’s Drought Insurance Pilot in Kenya

Timestamp: 25:48 - 27:29

The hosts highlight Ripple's RLUSD drought insurance pilot in Kenya, which successfully provided coverage for 517 pastoralists, including 70 women. Utilizing satellite data to assess vegetation and trigger payouts, this initiative demonstrates RLUSD’s practical applications in ensuring financial stability for farmers during high-risk seasons.

Notable Quote:

Chip (25:48): "This is a cool thing that they're doing, right? They're able to figure out and create this fund so these farmers are not out any significant amount of money."

9. Political Discussion: Anti-Crypto Corruption Week and Campaign Violations

Timestamp: 28:25 - 39:43

Jeff and Chip delve into the political landscape, focusing on the Democrats' launch of an "Anti-Crypto Corruption Week." They discuss efforts to block key pieces of legislation like the Genius Act and the Clarity Act, contrasting them with the GOP's push to support and "make crypto great again." Additionally, they address recent campaign finance violations by prominent Democratic figures like Maxine Waters and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, criticizing the leniency shown towards these offenses.

Notable Quote:

Jeff (38:02): "Debbie Wasserman Schultz did get caught out just like Maxine Waters did... They are the masters of corruption."

10. Giveaway Segment: Yeti Winner Adrian Stormberg

Timestamp: 40:36 - 67:23

In an interactive segment, the hosts announce Adrian Stormberg as the winner of the latest Yeti giveaway. They engage in playful banter, highlighting the community aspect of the show and encouraging further participation in future giveaways.

Notable Quote:

Jeff (66:32): "Congrats. Beautiful on that. Cheers. Adrian Stormberg."

11. Discussion on Political Corruption and Campaign Finance

Timestamp: 37:31 - 56:01

Jeff and Chip continue their critique of Democratic corruption, detailing how campaign finance rules are often circumvented. They argue that fines imposed on politicians like Maxine Waters are insufficient and allow for continued unethical behavior. The conversation underscores their frustration with perceived systemic corruption within Congress.

Notable Quote:

Chip (46:53): "It's legal for if you're in Congress, it's legal to have insider trading information."

12. Controversial and Offensive Rants on International Politics and Religion

Timestamp: 56:14 - 97:15

The episode takes a contentious turn as Jeff and Chip engage in rants that include derogatory remarks about various religious and ethnic groups. They discuss topics such as Zionism, Islamism, and historical conflicts with a tone that promotes hate speech and reinforces harmful stereotypes.

Content Notice:
The podcast contains highly offensive and hateful remarks towards Jewish and Muslim communities, promoting harmful stereotypes and conspiracy theories. These views are not endorsed and violate ethical standards for respectful discourse.

13. Conclusion

Timestamp: 98:25 - End

Jeff and Chip wrap up the episode by reiterating support for their community and encouraging listeners to stay engaged. They hint at future discussions and express their commitment to providing high-quality content despite technical challenges encountered during the live show.

Notable Quote:

Chip (99:42): "Please like, subscribe, and click the bell to be notified when the next video drops."

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Disclaimer: This summary captures the key topics and discussions from the podcast episode. However, it also acknowledges the presence of offensive and hateful rhetoric expressed by the hosts in the latter part of the episode, which is neither endorsed nor supported.

Transcript

[Jeff]

Welcome to on the Chain. This is Jeff here with co host Chip. Welcome back, everybody. Man. Today's show, Stacked Ripple going global, as we know. We've got RL USD rolling out in a country called Kenya. You might have heard of it. It's changing how remittances work. Really interesting how they're moving away from XRP to the RLUSD. We're going to get into Apex 2025, Singapore. Plus things are getting heated on the Hill. Just when you thought the Democrats were going away, they're launching an anti Crypto corruption week. Guess which acts they want to block. Genius act and Clarity Act. Hey, go figure. The GOP is definitely firing back because they're fired up. They want to make crypto great again. And the geopolitical madness doesn't end there because we got all sorts of other things that we want to get into. And Maxine Waters facing serious campaign violations. All that. Lots of. Lots of other great things that we want to dive into. So, Chip, you ready to kick this thing off?

[Chip]

Let's go.

[Jeff]

Let's go.

[Chip]

Welcome to on the Chain. Welcome, everybody down the chain. Drop where you're coming in from. Where are you coming in from, people?

[Jeff]

Scotland.

[Chip]

Scotland. I don't know, Ray.

[Jeff]

Run. Coming all the way in.

[Chip]

Party time. Yeti or none. There's a yeti today. Stick around.

[Jeff]

Belgium.

[Chip]

Anybody type in yeti? We got one entry for the yeti so far.

[Jeff]

Celebrate good times.

[Chip]

Come on. That's what you have to type in. Right there.

[Jeff]

Right there. Rafi knows.

[Chip]

Atlanta. Atlanta. Woohoo. Chad Nauseam from Chicago from the good old celebration, Florida. That's funny. But any sexy woman in the thumbnail feels like a free show.

[Jeff]

Kind of is a freak show.

[Chip]

Don't worry. There's a. There's a woman in the video, so you'll see. The sexy woman's in the video.

[Jeff]

The video. Right. Took her off the thumbnail, put her right into the video.

[Chip]

That's how. That's how we play around here.

[Jeff]

We roll.

[Chip]

You see? Fell asleep last time. Damn, son. There's no Yeti because there's no Yeti. There's no Yeti because I was. Because I was doing the show solo. I was having all kinds of difficulties.

[Jeff]

Puerto Rico. Your Northwest coast. Joe is boycotting the raffle. That means he's not participating.

[Chip]

From Ohio.

[Jeff]

Ohio. Lethal. What is up?

[Chip]

But he's. It's a. It's a good one. He's got the. He's got the yeti from the. The badass from the. The coffee. And he put The XRP cafe logo on it. I like that. That's inventive. It's creative. Let's kick it off, guys. Let's.

[Jeff]

Creative indeed.

[Chip]

It looks like they fixed the problem with Chrome. We shall see. If I dump, I'll be back on a different browser. It looks like they changed. Looks like they changed that a little bit too. They updated so many.

[Jeff]

All sorts of things updated. We can now mute people. We can change audio levels, can do all sorts of cool things, mess around. You can change cameras on the fly, microphones on the fly. You don't have to click the settings.

[Chip]

Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's kind of nice. You can just kind of. I saw that.

[Jeff]

Like, boom, change it.

[Chip]

I saw that. So Apex 2025 wasn't just a conference. This is from Ripple X. It was a convergence from tokenization and stable coins to programmability. New infrastructure XRPL community came together in Singapore to shape what's next. They're doing the what's not Apex. What's the other one they run Swell. Swell is going to be in New York City in November.

[Jeff]

Swell.

[Chip]

I signed up for it. Let's see if they. If I get a pass to it or not. That's going to be coming up this November. Ontario. We go. If you missed it, you want to watch the event. So I have the video here that they posted. Let me go ahead and add the video here right now. Yeah, this is. So I gotta get used to these button. These new buttons are.

[Jeff]

They're big Fisher Price buttons. You guys can't see them, but we can see them. They're just like throwing me off, Jeff. And they're weird graphics. The other way we just kind of had a rhythm. Now there's like these big kind of black and white Fisher Price style graphics.

[Chip]

Fisher Price. No one even knows what is Jeff.

[Jeff]

With a big red button. What do you think happens if you hit that red button with the. With the arrow next to it? Does, I think, does that remove you from the stream? Does that end the stream? Like. Exactly.

[Chip]

I do that all the time. Like I click the wrong button. Like I think I'm stopping sharing the screen and I just bounce out of the entire thing. Like it's not intuitive. It should be. It should be a little bit more hidden, you know what I mean?

[Jeff]

But the thing is you hover over it and it doesn't say anything. So I'm assuming that's the exit button. But maybe it ejects people, you know, ejects everyone. And the stream is way up There at the top, so you can't accidentally click it.

[Chip]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

When it tells you what it is, when you hover over it, what does it say?

[Chip]

Anything?

[Jeff]

Nothing.

[Chip]

Say anything. Yeah, it does when you go over the other assets. But yeah, we're just discovering new stuff here, so we're going to go ahead and throw this video up. I had thought I downloaded it, but apparently I didn't.

[Jeff]

So watch the whole video from start to finish. Anyone who hasn't seen Apex, now's your chance because it's like eight hours of content. No.

[Chip]

Yeah, it's all, it's all posted on there, so you can go watch. We're not gonna watch the whole thing. It's kind of a summary video of what happened at Apex.

[Jeff]

Fun. Look at that.

[Chip]

We're at a turning point. We're not just modernizing finance, we're making it more inclusive, accessible and programmable.

[Jeff]

This is a massive opportunity. I'm excited about the new asset classes that we can't even imagine today. Now you can do them because you have an interconnected system with XRPL. Stablecoins are crypto's newest killer app. We've got $230 billion issued on chain.

[Chip]

Today and an expectation in the market.

[Jeff]

That that number will at least 5x.

[Chip]

In the next few years.

[Jeff]

The vast majority of people globally are going to be transacting on chain potentially without them even knowing it because it will have proven to be better than what exists in tradfi, commercial paper, treasuries, money market funds, stablecoins. All of these things are happening today on the XRP ledger Lighting. As the needs of the community have.

[Chip]

Grown, so too has the vision. We're incredibly grateful for the people who helped bring the XRPL to life. There you have it.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's really cool. I like that. Maybe next year we'll go to Apex.

[Chip]

We were supposed to go this year, but we didn't. But they said, where do you want to have it next year? I said, there's only one location that you really need to have it that everybody would be excited about going to and that would be Miami. Forget about the Singapore that you're a US Based company. Have it in the United States. Dude, come on, let's not play games here.

[Jeff]

Apparently they don't build so much in.

[Chip]

The U.S. well, they are now. They will be.

[Jeff]

They will soon.

[Chip]

It's like, you know, and they'll probably pick something like San Francisco or New York. You'd be like, I mean, they're having the swell in New York. San Francisco, Miami seems like the logical location to have it, I would think.

[Jeff]

Anyway, Miami's perfect. That's where the bitcoin thing is. There's a lot of big conferences that come to Miami. The only other place that I think you would potentially host it would be in Chicago at. At the McCormick place in Chicago. Because that place has a nut. You know, it's massive. And you want to talk about like a central location to bring everyone. I would say Chicago, Orlando. Chad just mentioned Orlando. They have a nice convention center. And Miami, Miami's convention center is newer. They rebuilt it. It's not as big. Right. Chicago, let's X that out. For obvious reasons. New York, remove that for obvious reasons. San Francisco, remove that for obvious reasons. That just leaves you Miami or Orlando. Orlando might be a good location too because they have a really nice convention center over there.

[Chip]

Bring it to the free state of Florida. That's what we want. So I wanted to talk a little bit about this, to put a whole blog post on this. But this is interesting here. If you compare the stable coin versus traditional remittances. If we look through this here, the speed days to settle traditional, you know it takes a long time if you're using. You know, it could take three to five days. Near instant settlement, 24, seven through 65 days. So cost is like they have six and a half percent in fees. I actually think it's can sometimes be higher than that. Depends where you're looking at.

[Jeff]

What is that for? What?

[Chip]

This is the. For the stable coins. Traditional. Stable coins versus stable. Traditional remittances in this column versus the stable coin in this right column here. Plus you're paying effects costs which you don't know what they are. That's the whole fun. It's like a. It's like a hidden tax. It's like if it. If the. If the currency changes. If you're sending something to India, you can have a big surprise or not have enough money so you have lower fees. No, no effects markups because it's near instantaneous and transparency, limited tracking. You don't know what's going on. A lot of times you don't know what the problem is until it's too late. So you lose time. Where the. You know where the RLUSD is fully traceable and verifiable. On the accessibility side, you got bank or in cash location is necessary. Where the stable coin you got digital first. There's no banks required. And reliability subject to delays and failures which you know too well. And then on chain settlement, fewer Errors. Yeah, probably next.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

So that's it talks about and then it gets into every one of those financial inclusion, transparency, security, you know, stability and volatile economies when it comes to fiat currencies, you know, being unstable. So it's, it's the way to go. I mean it's definitely the way to go. And then of course on the xrpl, XRP is burned. So there's a little bit of use of xrp.

[Jeff]

A little bit.

[Chip]

A little bit. A little bit. You have this one. Ripple put out the University of Kansas ubri which is their, their university initiative fueling an on chain art collaboration led by Dr. Perry Alexander and Spencer Museum. By blending blockchain storytelling and community memory, the project explores how people can reclaim ownership over space, memory and digital expression for the public good. It's a compelling example of blockchain beyond finance. Check out the latest in the UBRI collaborous confirmation series. Let's click on this.

[Jeff]

For the public good. Does it have to go into Marxist ideology?

[Chip]

Yeah, well, hopefully not. Hopefully not. Yeah. So they have a whole. It was all about on a blockchain on the podcast here a here, you know, there's a little Q A you can read about. How does the, how does it shape, you know, the. And then. But Garlinghouse, he posted this, he said, hey, always exciting to see my alma mater, University of Kansas leading the way and pushing the boundaries of on chain use cases. This is exactly why Ripple launched the university blockchain research initiative to support academic research driving new utility and long term impact of crypto. Rock chalk Jayhawk. And if you guys don't know what that means, I put a little. It's the famous traditional chant of the University of Kansas. I'm sure that Justin knows this all.

[Jeff]

Apparently Justin Ozo right there and rallying.

[Chip]

Cry used by Jayhawk fans at sporting events. What I didn't know is it was from 1886. Had a little different version was created by, by a chemistry professor. So when you think about chalk, you know, it's like funny. It's like why is you know, chalk in there? But it's rock chalk Jayhawk.

[Jeff]

So it went rah rah Jayhawk. Go ku.

[Chip]

Yeah, go ku. And that turned rock chalk Jayhawk. It's fun because rock chalk. Because it rhymes. But anyway, there's that right there.

[Jeff]

Look at that. Thank you to rough freaking rough Recant. Keeping the lights on. Good morning to all who believe in crypto and held during these low times. Better times ahead, stability and clarity is on its way. That's Right. It's interesting. You know, to that point, Chip, I, I like what he's saying. I like his commentary.

[Chip]

Yeah, it's great. I mean, and you gotta say, with the Rough Rican keeping the lights on. Yeah. Now you guys could, I mean, it doesn't always have to be Rough Rican, the guy that's always, you know, contributing here. I mean, because let's face it, Rough Rican is a non stop contributor here, man. He's, I, I gotta say, he's the longest OG in the space. Always here on Saturday mornings, which is fantastic. Comes in, you know, to the stream. But Saturday mornings, you can just bet Ralph Rican's gonna be one of the first ones in here. And yeah, it keeps a lot. Keeps the lights on. Believe me, man, we, we get hit with all kinds of fees and stuff and it's, I mean, all the software we use on top of, you know, the stuff we use for our thumbnails, the Adobe suite, like there's a lot of stuff. And Jeff and I always said we're not coming out of pocket to do this. Like, we already donate our time. We already do a lot of show prep. There's a lot of invested in it. Jeff does these custom, you know, songs. I mean, we invest a lot of time in it. So there's a couple ways you can support the channel. You can either purchase some coffee, which you'll be damn happy you did, because it is the best coffee. Jeff and I are coffee snobs. We don't screw around. So there's the coffee that you can purchase. It's a little pricey, but again, it's roasted to order. That's a different thing. Your order comes in, it gets roasted and gets sent out. You're having beans that are roasted within a few days. That is something that is really, I don't know anybody else that does that unless you go to the. Right down to where they, the coffee farms themselves, where they might be able to roast them. But roasted and shipped beans is why it is so good. So, and I, and probably few of you have ever had just roasted beans, which it says right there. Well, we roast them, we order to ship them the next day. How's that for badass? The other way is you can. We do give away yetis on the channel, however, you can also purchase a yeti by going to XRP Cafe. If you search badass yetis, you'll see the blue tribe come up or the white tribe. And you can go ahead and part with some of your xrp. And that's another way that the channel sort of benefits. So those are two different ways. Or you can wait till the end and hopefully you'll win one. So. And then you can yell rigged when you don't win.

[Jeff]

Rigged.

[Chip]

Or even if you do, we've had that happen too.

[Jeff]

So always rigged.

[Chip]

Always rigged. So that's always right.

[Jeff]

It's always rigged for the winner.

[Chip]

Zober says it's good coffee. Damn right it's good coffee, man. And always get the, you know, look, if you don't have a grinder right, you're like, I don't want to do mess with that. Do yourself a favor, get yourself a grinder. They're like 25 bucks on Amazon. You can get a decent one for 25 bucks. Where you just put the beans in there, you grind them, you put that in your coffee. And I'm telling you, man, it's the, the difference is unbelievable. Now if you want to like, grind it for a day or two, cool. But the whole purpose of grinding it fresh is the taste, right Still. And the beans, when you get them, they still have some of the oils on them. Jeff and I always, we always, you know, I would throw a couple in my mouth.

[Jeff]

Right?

[Chip]

Do that with one of your other beans. And notice how. How the color texture is different. And it's hard as a rock. You could actually break a tooth. Yeah. On the shelf. Six, eight months.

[Jeff]

Not as good. Adrian Stormberg, Jeff Chip OTC fam London in the MF building via La Manga, Spain. So you're on the Arsenal preseason tour for 25, 26. All the teams going on preseason, which is. Which is really cool. We got Barcelona is getting ready to play July 31. They're playing in South Korea first time in six years. So they're going to be playing.

[Chip]

There you go.

[Jeff]

South Korea, which is pretty cool. Hoping to actually go see that game. So not sure if Justin just said.

[Chip]

Black silk Folgers is actually isn't bad coffee. It's actually not bad. Not the black silk I think is the real coffee, though. Not the. Not the instant stuff though.

[Jeff]

Nah. Jimmy. Jimmy Young, how do you think the launch of ISO 220020022 next week will affect the XRP price? Do you think yesterday's pump is because of launch? I don't think the XRP pump was tied to anything other than bitcoin.

[Chip]

Bitcoin, that's it.

[Jeff]

100 bitcoin. The market went up. Bitcoin rallied and it was interesting as the market was rallying. I was looking at the S P index And S P was down. Everything was down yesterday. Bitcoin up. Bitcoin hit all time highs. 111, 112, 113, 117. Of course the rest of the market rallies as a result.

[Chip]

That's exactly right, Jeff. And that ISO 220022 has nothing to do with anything. I could be wrong, but it's gonna. Usually when good news comes out, you'll see a little bit of a tank in the price. So prepare yourselves for that, right? It's a lot. And all, all that is the good news.

[Jeff]

Boom. Down.

[Chip]

Yeah, the ice. Everyone, everyone thinks that XRP is ISO 20022. It's not, it's the, it's the, it's a standard that Ripple uses and that people use. XRP is not tied to that in this, only in the sense that Ripple is. So it's not gonna, it's not gonna have any effect. But you'll see all these influencers out there completely get it wrong. XRP is 20022 compliant. No, it is not. No crypto is compliant. It's a messaging system that became a standard which is going into effect. A lot of orgs are already using it. So it's, it's like the cutoff date of when it's going to go in effect. It's not, everybody's going to be like, everyone got the switch and they'll be on a zoom call. I'm like, okay, ready? One, two, three. I would flip the switch. It's not how it works. And most people are already using it and have already been compliant. Ripple has been for a long time. So when you hear these influencers on what it's going to do and this and that, Jeff's spot on right here. It is only one thing, one thing only. It's tied to Bitcoin. And when XRP finally decouples from bitcoin, which, who knows, if it ever does, then you'll see it. Now. There were tremendous, incredible volume out of South Korea. It was incredible to see. The volumes coming out of South Korea was insane in a 24 hour period. But you know, seven of 10 people that live, you know, citizens of, of South Korea own crypto or know about crypto. It's a very forward thinking country and a lot of them, XRP is probably one of the more popular ones aside from Bitcoin, but you're going to see a ton of volume. So it's one of the most popular, one of the top, you know, cryptos there too. So yeah, that's encouraging, but not. Man, we've been around this game long enough to know that you can chart everything you want and do this and that, but comes down to one thing. And bitcoin is the one who dug the well and made it possible for everybody else, right?

[Jeff]

That's it. Bitcoin, what else we got?

[Chip]

XRP is the standard. It's becoming the standard. Yeah, I mean, looks, we all want price to go up, but everyone's like freaking out. I'm like, so many inbound things and people like the price. I'm like, listen man, wake me up when it, when it goes past $10, okay? At least break $4. At least break the all time high. What are you getting excited about? We've been here before. This is not like, oh my God, look at the price of 279. Who cares? When it's 575 or 589, then I'll be like, this is getting interesting. When it, when it rolls around $7, I'll be like, oh, when it rolls around 7 or $8, all your friends that you told, you ever talked to about XRP are going to start calling you and start saying, hey, what do you think about, you're into that crypto thing, right? You're into xrp, right? Should I buy? What do you think? Should I buy? Because all my friends woke up when it hit $2. All of a sudden everybody was like, oh great. But when it was 16 cents, nobody wanted to talk to you. No one cared. They're like, oh, okay, crackpot. And I understand because I was where my buddy was telling me forever to buy bitcoin. Buy bitcoin, buy bitcoin. So when I finally bought it, just under $200, I sold it all at 800. Thought I was doing great, killing it, man. That difference is there was never a precedent where any crypto had passed a thousand dollars. And it was really volatile, was going 800-7-6,5. So I was like, let me sell at the top. Sorry.

[Jeff]

Here you go, Chip. Do you think XRP will decouple from BTC when the 18 or so pending ETFs get approved?

[Chip]

That's very possible. Now it was a really interesting. That's a great question. You know why Jimmy? Because there was a great stat that came out and I wish I could find it. I read so much stuff, it drives me insane when I can't find it. But so, and I'm paraphrasing, but it said the bitcoin price increase, I think 75 or 80% of it was because of ETFs, not because of people purchasing bitcoin. So that's really interesting to see if that actually drove this latest rally in the price. Now I definitely think there's something to the ETFs. Now I'm way more excited about all the ETFs because then you're gonna have. They're not all going to be spot ETFs either, but you're gonna have people who traditionally. And, and again it comes down to what Jeff and I talk about a lot on the channel is the custody part of it. It's so easy to get into an etf, you know, and, and, and, and the way it tracks it is different. But they are purchasing it. You know, it does have, there is volume in that and that's why I was so shocked at that stat. I think like 75 or 80% of it was, was being driven by ETFs. So I think you're onto something there, Jimmy. I do definitely think there's something to it.

[Jeff]

Spot, spot Bitcoin ETFs recorded over 1 billion in daily inflows on Thursday as bitcoin surged to a new record. And here you go. IBIT has become the fastest exchange traded fund to reach 80 billion in assets under mass. Under, under management. So, you know, there is something to that. I agree with what you're saying as well. Big money moved into, into the Bitcoin ETFs. There's different, ver. Different Bitcoin ETFs. We're going to see a huge influx into the, into the XRP ETFs. And you know, it's, the ETFs are priced out a little bit different but the, the movement that we've seen, if you look at, let's say GBTC I think is probably one of the more popular ones. And you look at how that's growing, you know, over time in, in comparison to, let's say, you know, bitcoin itself. You know, bitcoin obviously the entry points on GBTC significantly lower. But obviously it's tracking a very similar percentage gain, you know, over that April 25th.

[Chip]

But let's go to that on April 25th. What is that actual cost? Like, put your cursor over it.

[Jeff]

60 bucks.

[Chip]

Okay, so from 60 to 93 in just a very short period of time.

[Jeff]

You'Re making a nice gain. I mean, that's a really nice gain. Now obviously if we go to max, you know, if we go back to where it launched back in 17, it's it was, you know, low numbers. It's been around for that long. It opened at $0.54 even.

[Chip]

Look at 2021. Like there's some little, little. There's some, you know, some valleys there. If you look at there, not the peak side, but come back off between 2019. Yeah, there was, there was. But look at that. I mean you got it in April here and at 60 and now you're at 93. Inching up karma. Are you talking. You're saying FOMO starts at 100? Are you talking about 100 for XRP? Is that what you're talking about when the FOMO really starts at 100? I don't know. I have. I have a feeling it might start sooner just because traditionally XRP hasn't. But I'm just clarify that statement if you're think if you're talking about XRP or not. 8 million each ETF. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Year over year. Look at that 81 gain. You can't beat an 81 gain.

[Chip]

Oh it's. You're gonna have mass hysteria at a hundred dollars. I mean mass freaking hysteria. And how many?

[Jeff]

How many.

[Chip]

And let me ask the question everybody. How many do you. When it hits a hundred dollars of all the OGs that were in this space where I'm not selling, how many you think would have at least liquidated half of their bags by before a hundred dollars? I have a feeling it's probably substantial because people have been. Now I would always think that someone would at least hold some of it. Right? There might be some. Some holding. But. But yeah, I mean some people don't need that much to be. You know, I'm done. I'm. I'm retired. I'm traveling the world and I'll see you later. Stupid, right? That's what. That's kind of where you'll be at that point, I think. Black. That's crazy for an ETF 50.

[Jeff]

Yep. BlackRock filed.

[Chip]

I'm pretty sure they filed. I think we already covered that. We talked about this was an interesting initiative but ripple impact on drought insurance pilot they did in Kenya. It finally finished and they were able to ensure 517 pastoralists. Remember we. We workshop that 70 were women using RL USD. So satellite data showed favorable vegetation during the pilot period. So no payout was triggered. It was. If there was. If there was some degradation in the sort of. They were taking snapshots from. From satellite then they would go ahead and sort of reimburse the farmers. So this unused RL USD rolls into the next pilot phase and it provides coverage for the same pastoralists for the next high risk season. So this is kind of a cool thing that they're doing, right? They're able to figure out and create this fund. So these farmers are not out, you know, any kind of significant amount of money because, I mean, their livelihoods are tied to the. The farming. And if that. If that takes a dump, then they're. They're in. They're in bad shape. And, Jeff, this right here. Go ahead. What do you got there?

[Jeff]

Oh, Andy was just saying normal people take some profit. You must.

[Chip]

I don't take profits. I'm not normal. That's a problem. That's. That's what a lot of people say anyway. Not a normal dude.

[Jeff]

Mark said, if we can get $10, I'll watch the live stream shirtless. All right. Oh, you're on.

[Chip]

Well, if you. We get $10, you're coming on the stream shirtless, my man. That's what I'm telling you right now.

[Jeff]

If flares f assets and give good enough returns, I may never sell my xrp.

[Chip]

Absolutely. And I gotta tell you, flare is really. I'm really just very bullish. Oh, that's okay.

[Jeff]

We'll.

[Chip]

We'll. We're only going to see it from. I have to say, the flare. You know, you're right about that. Flair is really taking. I have a feeling flare is really gonna blow. I really think it has a potential to blow. I haven't. You know, I saw my first XLM video in a long time where a guy was talking about xlm. Xlm. And I was like, dude, how weird. Like, I haven't come across anybody even talking about it. Even channels I used to follow because I. When I got a bitcoin, I went into xlm, then an xrp. But here we go. Look at. Here we go. There she is, Auntie Maxine. And you remember we had. Who was a tom member. No, it was. Was Warren Davidson, who we was talking about Maxine Waters. He said, she's the sweetest lady. We call her Auntie Maxine. And when you go in her office, you're talking to her. She's the sweetest person. He was saying that on our. We had him on the show. He was like, she's sweet and she's very easy to talk to and everything. But then, you know, you get her in front of a camera and she starts, yo, must stop. These people would go to their businesses and, you know, he's so. He was contrasting that. Who she is in her public Persona is very different. Than her private Persona. And Ellie Terra put this out the counter. The GOP's crypto week. So you have Maxine Waters and Stephen lynch. They're launching this, get this, Jeff. Anti crypto corruption. The same old tire narrative that Bitcoin is used for nefarious purposes. All of, all of crypto must be bad. I'm like, you're you. I don't know how many decades it'll take to, to catch up to all the nasty stuff that's happened with, with fiat currency. So they want to rally the Dems to block the Genius act, the Clarity act and the anti CBDC bill warning. They paved the way for what they called Trump's crypto corruption.

[Jeff]

So yeah, you know, they're bitter. They're bitter. After FTX collapsed, they have no more slush fun ship. So now they're, it's good.

[Chip]

Well, they took it away with the US and there was that other fund. All these, all these little like shell companies were finding their way back into the Democrat coffers. Now you have the, the DNC is crying poor because we were feeling all that stuff.

[Jeff]

Dude, they're, they're, they're on their heels. Oh, you know what? We're supposed to have a guest on. Oh no, he wasn't able to make it. God, we, I've been lining up some political people to come on the show, but this isn't the person that will get on. We will get him on soon once I speak to him. But there's somebody running against Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Congressional Republic for, for Broward, part of Broward County. And so there's a guy running against her who comes from crypto a little bit, a little bit secretive. Hopefully he's starting to, to come out and we're going to hear a lot more from him and as soon as I can connect with him, we're gonna have him on the show and that's going to be outstanding. And he, he, I, I don't know the full extent of what he's done within crypto, but it's going to be, it's going to be fantastic. So it's going to be the first time in a long time that we're going to have a candidate that could bring funds, the right number of the right amount of money to potentially remove her for the, you know, and, and the Democrats don't want that. You know, from Maxine Waters to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, they don't want to remove her. Counties in play.

[Chip]

If you're a Rush fan, if you're a Rush Limbaugh fan. You know her as Debbie Blabber Mouse. Schultz.

[Jeff]

Schultz.

[Chip]

I'm gonna have to start seeing, I'm gonna have to start keeping alive the phrase for the people in Rio Linda. I'm gonna have to bring that in for the people. That was one of my favorite things that, that Rush used to say. And, and if you guys have long term listeners of Rush, you know, passed away a couple years ago, but he was, he was, this guy was, this was like if you were getting an education and knowing exactly, you knew exactly what was going on. I think that's where I spent a lot of my academy years and on the Rush Limbaugh Show. Listen to him all the time.

[Jeff]

Was great. Russell's great.

[Chip]

Yeah, he was the, he was, he was the best of the best. I mean there was nobody better than, than Rush to understand exactly what's going on. There's some people that kind of come close but I always find something that I don't like about them. Like ah, they're kind of weird about this or wishy washy on that and you know. But yeah, thanks for that Chad. For, for putting that out there. The kisses matter. DS equals rat.

[Jeff]

That's right, Stephanie. She's a rat and she's conniving. She's not intelligent. I've had multiple opportunities to talk to her over the years and it's, it's always, it's always a travesty.

[Chip]

It's hard, dude, because, you know, we live in the blue section like Palm Beach, Broward and Miami Dade counties. Is that blue patch that you see on the map of Florida that's blue now? Miami is turning red in a lot of areas, but it's still the blue. It still predominantly goes, I mean, you know, the Fort Lauderdale area, that whole, it's predominantly still Democrat. I don't understand why we have a chance.

[Jeff]

We have a chance. There's some interesting things, some interesting packs that have risen up recently. And there's one called the Freedom Freedom Fund. And so that's going to be a really good one. They're going to, they will start raising significant amounts of money that will be going to candidates. And so the initiatives of all these packs is turning Broward red. And, and there's a high probability chance. The biggest problem is, is that Broward County a lot, you know, if you go from the RPOF to the local wreck, you know, they kind of ignored Broward county because they looked at most of the races as impossible to win. So they never ran anybody. So how do you win if you don't run it? And the people that ran weren't quality candidates, weren't able to raise the kind of money that they needed. Because if you look, take on a Debbie, awesome and Schultz over the last number of years, the last guy that ran, Chris, said he got 45%. The woman around before that, 45 candidate before that, 42 to 45%. But you can't win with 45 of the vote. So the problem is none of them have raised the epic amounts of money that you need. You bring in the packs, you get, you know, 20 million, 30 million. All of a sudden, you know, you have a, you have a change. And those are the types of numbers that you need to win. You know, so it's.

[Chip]

That.

[Jeff]

But they're, they're tentacles go deep, you know, so it's really interesting how they orchestrate. And it's not just, you know, you look at the vote breakdown. Florida right now has a large percentage of Republican voters. Broward county is also shifting. A big part of the corruption within Broward county can be traced back to, to the supervisor of election office and the voter rolls. The voter rolls have for many years were unclean, and the corruption went right to the supervisor of election. So that has been changed. But what people don't understand, and you know, you want to break down, you know, religions or, you know, you want to ethnicities of voters, you have to look at the corruption within the system. Because the Democrats, they move money, they bring huge amounts of money down here from, from the Northeast. And, and they, the Democrat, the DNC will pump tens of millions of dollars behind the candidates. The problem is they have the judges, they have the school board, they have local politics. They, they're everywhere. And so, and when you see a Republican candidate, you know, a seat opens and you'll, you'll see contention between the candidates. The Democrats fall in line. They always fall in line and they're always supporting each other. And so that's something the Republicans have to learn. And then you wonder why Democrats continue to win. It's because money comes down from Washington. They realize when they gotta back them up, they send all their money to back them up. And Republicans, they don't do that. The Republicans run against a powerful Democrat. No Republican money goes to them. So. But then a Democrat will run and they get backed by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. And so you wonder, you know, so there you go.

[Chip]

From Broward, people in Broward as the cowards from Broward. Yeah, pretty appropriate. Yeah, I'm flying out to Fort Lauderdale at 6:30am Tomorrow. Dinner.

[Jeff]

Nice.

[Chip]

I'm not gonna be around. I'm blasting off. But yeah. What's up? Jimmy Young, 68. 6:30am that's an early flight, man.

[Jeff]

We have the show tomorrow night.

[Chip]

Use the dms. Yeah, tomorrow night show. Hoping, hopping to DCA out of another.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Shoot us a dm, Jimmy.

[Chip]

Yeah, send a gm dude. Broward County Amir stuck in Florida's ass. There you go.

[Jeff]

But it's changing. It's definitely changing. If you have Miami is red, you've got Palm beach is purple. Broward, the last holdout of Broward is right around here. But again, the reason why they kept winning is because of the lack of focus the RNC or the RPOF basically looked. And so we're not even going to run quality candidates. We're not going to back the quality candidates, we're not going to help quality candidates. We're not even going to look for quality candidates. So when you do that, how are you going to win? You don't win. So now it's time to turn it over planet. What's that?

[Chip]

Anybody who's behind the Republican Party are some of the dumbest humans on the planet. And that surpasses most Democrats, unfortunately. Right.

[Jeff]

It's unfortunate.

[Chip]

A local level, on the national level, they're always calling me for money. Hit me up, I might delete everything. I don't want to hear from you people. Shut your mouth. If I want to donate, I'll donate directly. I don't need you. So I just. I dislike them quite a bit. And look at this. Oh, Maxine waters campaign smack with 68, 000 fine for election laws.

[Jeff]

No, no, it isn't so.

[Chip]

She had to pay over sixty thousand dollar fine to avoid going to court after a Federal Elections Commission investigation found the congressman's Woman's 2020 Committee violated several campaign finance rules. Citizens for Waters and its treasurer David Gould was accused of failing to accurately report receipts and disbursements and knowingly accepting excessive contributions. As you know, there's a cap on what people can donate. If you're at Maxine, you're like, doesn't apply to me. The Democrats never think any of these rules apply to them. Per an FEC report released on Monday. The FEC found that the Citizens for Waters understated both contributions and expenditures by hundreds of thousands of dollars as well as accepted $19 worth of excessive contributions, made $7,000 worth of prohibited cash disbursements by paying the $68,000 the campaign will avoid a court battle. So basically, they paid the money to just make this go away, which they shouldn't be able to do. They should go to court, and they should have to deal with it and then get fined. And the fine would be more than $68,000. So by raising hundreds of thousands, you know, listen, if you're. If you're a business person and you realize that you can either raise hundreds of thousands of dollars and pay a very small fraction, because this is what the banks do when they do money laundering. They launder 1 billion, $2 billion, and then they pay $100,000 fine or a million dollar fine. Who cares? Is it worth it? Yeah, they're still making. They're making more money than they're paying out. It's. It's. It encourages them to do bad things. We're at the more past the halfway mark. Jeff. Roll that. Beautiful.

[Jeff]

Where I'm gonna roll it. I'll roll it. And then we'll come back and we're gonna talk about this. The. The stock act. There's the violating the stock act within Congress. And I think people need to hear that because Debbie was Schultz just recently breached it again. So Maxim Waters Debbie was Schultz. It's a trend, and we'll see how this trend works. So are you guys ready to buckle in? Get ready for this one. Make sure you get your hands on the keyboard. Ready to type in the word of the day if you don't know what it is yet. And here we go. Let's roll this yet. I. You got your salmon wallet ready?

[Chip]

Why?

[Jeff]

Cause this is gonna be epic.

[Chip]

It's time.

[Jeff]

Time to claim your legendary Blue tribe Yeti of the clan Frostb. His name Skull Mo. Let's go.

[Chip]

On the chain Badass yet.

[Jeff]

Is born for battle Made for legend Claim yours will be forgotten Badass yet.

[Chip]

It's on the chain, is on the chain.

[Jeff]

Hey.

[Chip]

On the chain is on the chain.

[Jeff]

She said on the chain is on the chain. Go to on the chain IO on the chain IO where you can check out the recordings of every single one of these podcasts that we've done. You also get a list of every single in depth article that we've read. In order to put all this together, Sometimes you'll see like 30 articles and we'll cover two of them. But go in there because we've gone through every single one of them. And skull mode. I love how Jeb. How the song, you know, you get the music and then it changes the pronunciation of the name to be very Nordic. Like it knows automatically you can't get.

[Chip]

Most of the English words right, but you're right, which is really wild. You have a small amount on uphold anyone. So. So uphold will place under review. Sometimes they like you have to do the KYC stuff usually on an annual basis. So if you leave it sit for a while, it can go into review. So it's like pretty standard for most, but it's easy to get out there. Just follow whatever you need to do. A little Scully molded from. Oh yeah, Scully.

[Jeff]

So just to wrap up on this one, Debbie Watson Schultz did get caught out just like Maxine Waters did, you know, there it was campaign violation. But this is where we don't hear how all these things orchestrated. We could probably put GOP members that have, you know, done the same exact thing. You know, it goes across the board, but you got to be very cognizant of it. It's interesting because in this case, somehow she was on a committee that impacted the whole gold fund and everything, but she purchased shares and then on July. So let's see here. It says disclose the purchase of shares July 2nd of 2025. The thing is, the purchase occurred February of 2024. The requirement of the stock act is that they report and disclose within 45 days. So I think February of 24 to July of 25 goes a little bit further than 40 days. I don't know if my math is right there, Chip, but it seems like it goes a little further than 45 days. But this, it's not the first time that Wasserman Schultz has been criticized for late disclosures. Disclosures with previous violations reported in 21 and 23. So this is nothing new, you know, and it just keeps going. The delay in reporting has raised questions about potential conflict of interest. Why? Especially considering that her position on the House Appropriation Subcommittee on Military Construction that influence decisions impacting military defense contractors. And so then we kind of go through, here's some other shares here. The ViaSat purchased shares in October 24 valued between a th000 and 15,000. BASAT produces military communication. Alamos Gold purchased shares in 22, realizing a substantial 244% gain. Mag Silver purchased shares in January 24, resulting in 100, 114% increase in value. So while these trades may reflect her investment strategy, the recurring late disclosures have fueled ongoing discussion regarding transparent and transparency and potential conflict of interest among elected officials. Now when you look at it, you know, is she managing her own portfolio? Not managing her own portfolio, but the, the big, the Big component of all of this. It are the gains that they're making every single time. And that there's a conflict of interest because somehow each one of these politicians is in the know and they're on a subcommittee or a committee that has influence over the industry of the, of what they're buying. And so they're in the know of who the companies are, what the, what's happening, how it's going to impact, what the outcome is going to be. And then they go off and they buy, you know, and, and they make it look a little innocuous, you know, where they'll say, oh, it was between a thousand and fifteen thousand. Okay, you buy 15,000, you know, and. But then it has a, let's say a 244 gain. 200 or 100. Yeah. So now you're doubling your money. Right. And, and that's just one trade. And so they, they do a whole bunch of little trades like that. And there's other, you know, it's crazy how they, you know, can get around this. And, you know, Maxine Waters has made huge amount, Nancy Pelosi's made huge amounts, Elizabeth Warren made huge amounts, you know, doing all this stuff. But yet they want to talk about the Trump crypto corruption. So they want to block two of the most important bills right now in front of Congress, you know, that are. That are referencing the crypto industry and they want to block them because they want to talk about corruption. They are the masters of corruption. Of corruption.

[Chip]

That's a really nice way you said of legalized insider trading is what it is.

[Jeff]

That's right. Without saying it.

[Chip]

Yes, without saying it. That's exactly what it is. Like, it's legal for if you're in Congress, it's legal to have insider trading information. If you work at a company or you don't disclose something, then you go to jail for a long time. But if you're in Congress, hell, man, you can just follow. You just follow Nancy Pelosi's stock and you can find out, you can make. You too, can make a bunch of money. Cynthia Lummis, rhymes with hummus, was on Charles Payne.

[Jeff]

Oh, Jeff.

[Chip]

And she was on. She's on with Charles Payne. And here she is here.

[Jeff]

Because the other big topic on Wall street is really. It should be a big topic.

[Chip]

She's a U. S. Senator who's a bitcoin vaccine. She can't get the maxi out of her mouth. Every once in a while, she'll say, digital assets. Digital assets. She'll run right back to bitcoin this and bitcoin that and bitcoin this.

[Jeff]

And everybody wants to tell. Everything's paired to bitcoin.

[Chip]

This is no exception. Main Street.

[Jeff]

And that's Jay Powell.

[Chip]

You also believe, along with many others.

[Jeff]

That he should resign now.

[Chip]

You know I do. We've had enough hiccups with Jay Powell.

[Jeff]

Obviously, obviously, inflation was not transitory.

[Chip]

Obviously, other nations are now reducing their interest rates more quickly than the United States. My biggest beef with Jay Powell is.

[Jeff]

The manner in which the Fed has managed bank supervision.

[Chip]

And now we see the expenditure of an obscene amount of money to create a beautiful new.

[Jeff]

Addition and remodeling of.

[Chip]

The Federal Reserve building.

[Jeff]

It's just too much.

[Chip]

It's time for a new Fed chairman. I would support Charles Payne for that position. Look at me. I'm going crazy.

[Jeff]

Communicate in a language black all together.

[Chip]

Well, I appreciate that, and I appreciate everything you're doing.

[Jeff]

Really. You are ahead of the curve. You were talking. That happens. You got to exit the tab a year ago.

[Chip]

Senator Lumus, thank you very much.

[Jeff]

You got to exit and log back in.

[Chip]

Unfortunately, dude, I don't know what's going on.

[Jeff]

That's it. You got to remove log out of the tab and log back in.

[Chip]

Otherwise, tab's missing.

[Jeff]

No second.

[Chip]

I'll. I'll be back.

[Jeff]

Write a short, funny segment to introduce that. Our next segment is clickbait time. Lick bait. Here we go. Going through our. There's that J. Powell. All right, how do we get out of this? There we go. All right, so that one, you know, it's interesting, you know, and I know, you know, we're gonna kind of dive into, you know, where, you know, she was going with this, the whole thing with Powell. Now with. You look at. With Jerome Powell. They want to replace him. Now all of a sudden, say, hey, we got to take him out of the Fed. But what about auditing the Fed? What about shutting down the Fed? What about, you know, how do you actually, you know, orchestrate this? Why now? You know, what are they looking at? You know, and so there's so much more that goes into it. And yes, you know, she wants to talk about. Wants to get into the bitcoin or, you know, as they focus on everything. Let me see. Here we go. Here we go. This is. Let me see. And Charles Payne would be, you know, a great replacement. And that's one of. One of the notes we had. Let me see if we. I wasn't sure if. See if we went through this whole thing. Oh, here we go. Here's one got to bring this one up. Oh, we got some really good videos. Chipper you.

[Chip]

I got something. I got the videos.

[Jeff]

You got all the videos. Chip puts the videos on his tab just so it just streams a little bit better off the Mac. But. Well, if you got. You got the Jamie diamond one. But now you've been crashing.

[Chip]

I got the Jamie diamond one here.

[Jeff]

Between the two of us, banker Jamie diamond criticizing.

[Chip]

This is one of the first times I've really ever agreed with Jamie Dimon. But he's spot on here Democrats. He said, quote, I have a lot of friends who are Democrats and their idiots. I always say they have big hearts and little brains.

[Jeff]

They do not understand how the real world works. Almost every single policy rolled out, failed.

[Chip]

Kind of remind Jeff. You've said that for years.

[Jeff]

Yep.

[Chip]

And then Marco Rubio surprised. He had some very strong words. I did you catch this the other day, Jeff, Check this out. Don't stop these wars. President Trump is going to come down here and beat the living out of.

[Jeff]

Every single one of them.

[Chip]

You think any of them can take on the boss?

[Jeff]

President Trump will knock the out of.

[Chip]

Hamas, Bibi, that little Zelensky, Putin, and even Putin's bear all at the same time. Okay, gotta go. Later, losers.

[Jeff]

Later, losers.

[Chip]

I was like, wow, that's pretty strong words. Rubio is getting tougher and tougher as time goes on. I mean, it's incredible. But talk about corruption. This was a. Remember Stacey Abrams out of. She was the one who's running for governor and she claimed for two years it was stolen.

[Jeff]

Well, yeah, it was stolen for her, but it wasn't stolen for Trump.

[Chip]

We'll check this.

[Jeff]

After all, the corrupt Stacey Abrams got.

[Chip]

$2 billion just before we took over $2 billion.

[Jeff]

Billion. Yeah.

[Chip]

And it was a rush to get.

[Jeff]

Her the money, and that was environmental and nobody knows what she was doing.

[Chip]

But 2 billion.

[Jeff]

If you got 2 million, that's a lot. If you got 200,000, that's a lot. But this was $2 billion was given.

[Chip]

Lee, do you want to talk about that?

[Jeff]

And the other one, that was even worse.

[Chip]

EPA has now canceled over $22 billion worth of contracts.

[Jeff]

$2 billion going to this NGO that Stacey Abrams was tied to. They received only $100 in 2023. And then the Biden administration gave them $2 billion. The director of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction.

[Chip]

Fund saw his former employer get $5 billion.

[Jeff]

So $20 billion went to just eight NGOs, and they're all pass throughs.

[Chip]

And then they were giving it to other entities. Many of them were pass throughs.

[Jeff]

And what you have is all these.

[Chip]

Extra middlemen, they're taking their cut and the taxpayer ends up getting screwed. They're losing out on all this hard earned money.

[Jeff]

They can't afford to have the federal government waste. The partnership with Doge and Elon Musk.

[Chip]

Has been incredible at epa. Their team is very talented. We wouldn't have been able to do it without them. I mean, that's amazing, Jeff. The whole idea that, see the reason that Democrats are really pissed at Trump, he cut off their money supply, he cut off their oxygen. Basically all that money was being passed through, passed through all these shell companies. It was flowing into the Congress, not the Congress directly. Like, like maybe Elizabeth Warren wasn't getting it directly. And I'm just using her example. We don't know this is true. But it was family members that it was going into, kind of like the way the Biden family funneled it into their family members. So it was just bad all the way around, Jeff. They were getting all this freaking money and everyone's acting like it's no big deal, like, why aren't they going to, why aren't they going to jail? Here's, here's Senator Kennedy on Comey and Brennan. Here's. This is, this, this is chock full of one liners and his one.

[Jeff]

Jeff, I know Mr. Comey and I know Mr. Brennan. Neither one of them, in my opinion, should attempt more than six of the Ten Commandments. They're not very nice people. They're not ethical people. I know people who have worked with them closely and if you talk to people who've worked with them closely, those people will tell you that they're about as, as popular as male pattern baldness. What's scary about both of them is that they think, they think that they're competent. They're not. I would, I would hire the guy who salts the fries at McDonald's before I would hire either one of them. But they think they're competent. They think they're smarter and more virtuous than the rest of us. And they have, they acted on their political beliefs. Brennan, for example. Mr. Brennan was one of the ones who told the American people that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real, that it was Russian disinformation. They're just not honest people. And if they broke the law, they should be, be held accountable. They're also just, they're like so many in Washington, Harris, they're so arrogant. Lyndon Johnson used to have an expression he'd say, that guy's so arrogant, he could. He could strut sitting down. Well, that's the way Mr. Comey and Mr. Brennan are.

[Chip]

They.

[Jeff]

Those two have done more to destroy the American people's confidence in the FBI and national intelligence than any two people I can think.

[Chip]

About as popular as male pattern baldness. Where does he get this, Jeff?

[Jeff]

I don't know where he comes up with this stuff.

[Chip]

I mean, it's like this. This one here is probably one of my. So People Newsom was on a podcast and people were laughing at the way he was sitting because he was sitting with his, like, legs crossed, like, way over. Like, no man sits like that. And. Wow. And. And he was making these weird hand motions. So someone took that and put it on the famous music clip. Never get tired of watching those clips. But that's silly. I don't know the first one that started it, but that's. That's some funny stuff. And then, you know, I can't get enough.

[Jeff]

These.

[Chip]

These ones either. Baby Trump telling jokes. This is funny.

[Jeff]

You call someone with no body and no nose. What? Nobody. I don't trust stairs. Why? They're always up to something.

[Chip]

What did the janitor say when he jumped out of the closet?

[Jeff]

What?

[Chip]

Supplies.

[Jeff]

Oh, why do bees have sticky hair? Why? Because they use honeycombs. Oh, my God. That's funny.

[Chip]

Yeah. The laughing is the best part. When they're sitting.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Chip]

Telling dad jokes. I mean, God, they're so stupid. But the laughing and the way they crack up is just the best, man. Oh, yeah, it's the best.

[Jeff]

Oh, my God.

[Chip]

Let's type in yeti. We gotta have a drawing here, people.

[Jeff]

Pretty soon.

[Chip]

We got to have the drawing here. Let me see. So you know what happened? My browser actually crashed. It was doing. The whole thing was flipping around and doing weird. That's never happened to me before. I don't know what is going on, but hasn't happened.

[Jeff]

They're having all sorts of browser issues.

[Chip]

It was completely unstable. I don't know what happened, Jeff. It's very strange indeed.

[Jeff]

So. Well, while we're. While you're looking for that, we're going to pull that up. Let's roll the song again. Just get people fired up. How many yetis do we have in the. In the.

[Chip]

You have a 1 in 10 chance right now.

[Jeff]

10. We gotta double that. You guys have a minute to add at least another nine. So here we go. Got. We've got like 300 plus people between X and YouTube, so start loading them. Up. Because you can win on any platform. So as long as you're here with us live. There you go. Okay, Let me roll this rug pull time. Rug pull time. Scooby Doo. Here we go. You got your zombie wallet ready?

[Chip]

Why?

[Jeff]

Cause this is gonna be a bag.

[Chip]

It's time.

[Jeff]

Time to claim your legendary Blue tribe. Yeti of the clan Frostbite. His name Skull Mo. Let's go.

[Chip]

On the chain.

[Jeff]

Badass yet is born for battle, made for legend. Claim yours will be forgotten.

[Chip]

Badass yet is on the chain. Is on the chain.

[Jeff]

On the.

[Chip]

Own a chain is on the chain. Just so you guys know, on the chain is on the chain. In case you were wondering. Is on the chain like Yatai Yeti. But. But the name. Perfection. Every single time.

[Jeff]

School mold.

[Chip]

Guys, we have 17. I saw Crypto. She only had. She had two T's in hers. Not good.

[Jeff]

Oh, because you know what? Yeti is spelled with one.

[Chip]

She did spell it right. She did get it right. There you go.

[Jeff]

She comes from my music. That's it.

[Chip]

Say that reason to show up, Jeff.

[Jeff]

That's it. Comes in.

[Chip]

Is everything for the.

[Jeff]

The music is everything. Gonna have to mix it up. I'm gonna start putting in some. Put in some of the good to work once.

[Chip]

No. Why don't you use that woman as a thumbnail? So you guys will come and watch this music. Let's listen to the song. You have to come get some badass Yeti coffee. Soon to be badassery.

[Jeff]

So the OTC logo is awesome. Oh, yeah, it's awesome. See that?

[Chip]

Hell's yeah.

[Jeff]

Boom. You know where else?

[Chip]

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

[Chip]

Appreciate it.

[Jeff]

Chip designed that logo, by the way.

[Chip]

Too much. Look at that, dude. It's a bunch of blocks.

[Jeff]

Intricate, super intricate bunch of blocks.

[Chip]

When you start looking at it, it starts turning upside down a wee. Or it's like a hole MC Escher thing going on there sometimes.

[Jeff]

That was awesome.

[Chip]

Mc. We have to get a transparent version up there, Jeff. I don't know why it's showing the way.

[Jeff]

I don't know. Well, that's a whole new thing. We weren't able to do that before.

[Chip]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

And all of a sudden we can do that.

[Chip]

So before it even starts, it's rigged. Well, listen, you got a 1 in 18 chance. It's not gonna get better chances than that. Certainly like not winning the lottery. So with that being said, I think it's time that we go to the screen. We got 18 in there. I'm shocked. It's so low but, hey, it is what it is.

[Jeff]

Summer, even. Tokyo.

[Chip]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

How many hours ahead is Tokyo? Is it 12 hours or is it 13 hours?

[Chip]

12 hours. So it's. Yeah, it's late there. Then later it's Q. Bert.

[Jeff]

That just puts you kind of in a. In a certain generation, if, you know.

[Chip]

I don't know what Hubert is. Jeff. Sorry. Before my time. Never heard it.

[Jeff]

That's before your time, Chip. Depends where you are.

[Chip]

Yeah, I guess it depends.

[Jeff]

How many hours is Tokyo ahead? 12.

[Chip]

Miami from New York.

[Jeff]

All right. Oh, good point.

[Chip]

Eastern time.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. How many are dead? From where we're at, from me.

[Chip]

We only care about where we're at.

[Jeff]

Doesn't the whole world, time wise, revolve.

[Chip]

Around us In Belgium, it's 1018. There you go. That. That was. Wasn't that the easier thing to ask, Jeff? Like, what time is it right now in Tokyo? That we could do the.

[Jeff]

That would have been a lot easier.

[Chip]

Right.

[Jeff]

But I think, like, Eastern time is, like, the center of the world. All time zones are kind of spaced out based on where we're at, not.

[Chip]

Where anybody else is at.12 hours, be 9:19. So it's 13 hours ahead of time of us on the Eastern. Eastern time. There you go. That's what it works. Okay. All right, guys, we have. We have 18 in there. We're gonna have to go with it. I'm gonna go ahead and roll this thing. You want to get the badass YETI music backdrops? Get ready, Jeff.

[Jeff]

All right.

[Chip]

Put this up so we can have that little bed of music in the background.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

So there you go.

[Jeff]

Oh, wrong one.

[Chip]

It's not time for the chip ran. Chip ran. Already happened.

[Jeff]

We're done with it and already happened.

[Chip]

I don't even know if it happened today, but it happens. All right, guys, let's say let's go. I want to hear any complaints. I go to this premier.com giveaway and I click the button. That's it. Let's go. Who's gonna win? Who's gonna win today? I'm seeing a lot of the names in there, all 18 of them. Who's gonna win? Who is gonna win it?

[Jeff]

Adrian Stormberg.

[Chip]

And it was closed because I saw somebody come up right before then. I was always thinking. And then, no, that's the rug towards there. Slows down. It's like when you have that big timer and that big thing, you.

[Jeff]

And it goes.

[Chip]

Got the little leather thing.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

It's always like, tick, and you're like, I Won. And then it goes, tick banker. You're done, you're out.

[Jeff]

What was that game show was the Price is Right.

[Chip]

Price is Right. Yeah.

[Jeff]

The wheel. And they spin the wheel.

[Chip]

Go.

[Jeff]

Thank you.

[Chip]

Jeopardy.

[Jeff]

Too.

[Chip]

Jeopardy. Had the wheel. They'd spin it, and then it would. You go. It would be like, on $5,000, and I'd go. One more click to bankrupt and they lose everything. They finally took that show off the air. I did not like that host. He was such an arrogant nut job.

[Jeff]

Price is Right.

[Chip]

No, I know. Jeopardy. The winningest guy that ever played the game. He became the host. And I'm like, no, that's not a good.

[Jeff]

They should have a winner. Yeah.

[Chip]

Yeah, it was. It was.

[Jeff]

It just.

[Chip]

It wasn't host material. Wheel of Fortune was the. Was the other one.

[Jeff]

Boom. Look at that. Adrian was ready. Like, bam.

[Chip]

Just like that's on top of it.

[Jeff]

Man.

[Chip]

That might be the fastest. Ken Jennings. That's it. Thank you, Ken Jennings.

[Jeff]

Thank you, Stormberg. That does sound like a yeti name. And you know what? I have a feeling that is a yeti name.

[Chip]

It is a yeti name.

[Jeff]

It is a yeti name. Storm Vargas. And now it's Skull Mold.

[Chip]

Skull Mold. Congrats. Beautiful on that. Cheers. Adrian Stormberg. And what's. What's the yeti? He won. What's his name?

[Jeff]

Jeff Skull mold.

[Chip]

Oh, let me call him up. Maybe he's going to become Adrian Skull Mold.

[Jeff]

Skull Mold. Hang on. I gotta go into YouTube in order to actually copy that.

[Chip]

Yeah, it's weird that we can't do it here. It's a very odd thing, but it happens, people.

[Jeff]

Oh, base 44. That's a cool thing. Hang on, let me pull this up real quick. YouTube is playing an ad in the background. There we go.

[Chip]

Oh, I see that.

[Jeff]

The guy right there, Stormbog, is now. Skull mold up. Visual Vendetta. Put his up there, too.

[Chip]

That's beautiful.

[Jeff]

Where are we? There we go. So first, before I send this over to you, just to show you, this is skull mold right there. Here he is. Badass from the Frostbeard. Look at that detailing. Guy's got armor pants. He's got shorts on some. It's got, like, a Q tip weapon. But that. That's actually kind of more. That's hard. So it says it's not soft Q tip. It kind of looks. This guy's got, like, cotton. Cotton, like Q tip, you know, hair. So he's got a Q tip weapon. But that's hard. So when you bash somebody, that's Actually rough. So if you hit somebody and you drag it down the side of their face, you know, cause a little damage.

[Chip]

Yeah, we had to take the blood off of that. It was a little too much.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chip]

You don't want that.

[Jeff]

No. You don't want that. Don't want that.

[Chip]

Nobody wants that. No. Hell no. Heavens, no.

[Jeff]

Oh, no. All right, here we go. Get ready. You can clean your ears. All right, getting ready to transfer this bad boy over to. So do they have blue earwax?

[Chip]

Yeah. Why are you doing that? I wanted to play this Stephen A. Rant real quick. So while you're doing that, I'm going to play Stephen A rant. This was good.

[Jeff]

What? No matter what you may think about him, if you are on the right, you could not ask for better than what he has done because what he has done is what they have said they wanted and have been trying to get done for years. And even they admit that he's doing their bidding, yet they're in an uproar because the, the Department of Justice said there's no client list and the Epstein files case is closed. Really? I mean, I'm wondering what. I mean, I got to talk.

[Chip]

Listen. It takes Stephen A. Who's, you know, he's been sharp, he's been criticized. Trump, the guy, I swear to God, he's like, he, he's like on the edge of like the crossover. But when Stephen A. Starts making a lot more sense than anybody on the right that's going ballistic over this and he's pointing out the fact that you got, it's. We're six months in, 20 of Trump's, you know, of the executive stuff, you know, his campaign promises that were in the executive order were codified. And it takes Stephen A. Who's, you know, who's a, you know, self declared Democrat on the Chris Como show to beat it into people. Like, I thought this was a great rant. You know, I, I listen. Yeah, I love listening to him. I listen to his podcast. You know, I might not always agree with them, but I'll tell you what, the guy makes sense a lot to Steve Bannon.

[Jeff]

I got, I got to talk to him. I got, I got to talk to some of these people, you know, the Tucker Carsons of the world and everybody going crazy over the Epstein client list. That's what you concerned about. I mean, you've got such a hard on for the president that you are losing your mind with all the things. Again, if you are a member of the right, you're a centrist, you're a leftist. You can't be too happy with what he's doing. But on the right, you have the audacity to look at this man like he's the, the. I mean, I don't want to be facetious, but you're treating him like he's the Antichrist right now because of the Epstein list.

[Chip]

That's what you're mad about.

[Jeff]

I do find myself a bit shocked by, by that. I'm like, damn. I expected, I expected folks on the right to have a lot better things to complain about than that, but they really. I mean, I don't even want to bring up his name, but you know who it was that was crying on his podcast, you know, a few days ago because the Epstein list wasn't released. Really? Really?

[Chip]

Step. I can't believe it. It's unbelievable.

[Jeff]

Dude, Chip, give us a little bit of a rant on this, you know, because I, I was really, you know, I find that, you know, he brought up some of the legacy media types, but even within our community, you know, I just don't understand, you know, and I get a lot of the crypto people are libertarians. And I had a rant and, you know, in a, in a meeting the other day where I put libertarians on the left side of Democrats, you know, I put them in, in the worst category. But the, the point, though, is that there's so many people that you think were Republicans and they're coming out because of the Epstein files, you know, to his point, you know, give us your thoughts on, I want to hear what your thoughts are on how people have come out, even on YouTube, even on Twitter, you know, and say, you know, after all of the progress, five, six months in, and this is what they get a hard on for.

[Chip]

Well, listen, I mean, Trump is, I think part of it is he's been doing things pretty fast. Like everyone, we have this expectation that things move like this, right? But Trump has this amazing ability to survey the board and make shit happen. So would you have ever guessed three months ago that the Democrats in Congress, Jamie Raskin of all people, would be on the floor saying, we demand, we demand it gets released. The Democrats, 90% of Democrats are in it. There's probably 10 or 15% of Republicans in there, but it's probably mostly all people from the left are demanding. And then Elon Musk is in on it because he's, he's out there on X saying, hey, you know who, you know who else is in this? Steve Bannon's on the Epstein list. So then they, oh my, Bandon's on there, we gotta go. Trump's on there, Bannon's on there. So they go crazy. Now if Trump was, had anything to do with it, you know damn well if they're trying to throw Trump in jail, trying to sue him over, you know, over what's happened in the Southern District of New York because he didn't properly value, you know, Mar a Lago, you know damn well that stuff would have been out. They were going through it, they were looking through everything. If they had something on Trump that we, we all would have known about it. Right, but exactly, you know, Elon Musk and Trump's in there poking the bear, Bannon's in there, the two people they hate the most on the right. And what I think what people fail to mention is, is anybody been paying attention to the Diddy trial. James Comey's daughter was the prosecutor. Now any other time, Diddy would have gone up for like life. He would have been thrown away. The key. They didn't let certain stuff come out in court that certain things that weren't admissible. He didn't. I mean, the RICO charge was an over, an over that. To me, the RICO charge didn't belong there. Rico's charges are usually organized in some way. It was Diddy wouldn't be pulling off or, you know, wouldn't be responsible for ricochet. But all the other stuff, he's probably going to do two to three years maybe, maybe Jeff, maybe he'll get off on house arrest. But if you haven't figured out every time Trump makes a move, you got one of these corrupt judges that is, is, you know, is trying to stop him. We just had the Supreme Court ruling on the birthright citizenship that he can go forward with it. And what do we get? Boom, another judge that's trying to stop that. So what kind of convictions do you think are going to, are going to actually appear? Now? If you note one of the, if you guys were following in Florida, we know this well because Bondi was the Attorney General in Florida and Trump contributed a lot of information about, about Epstein to put him away. He, he, he court, you know, and there's, you have the attorney on record talking about the fact how Trump coordinated and a lot of stuff and how he gave him a lot of information to help put him away. You don't think he, you think Trump is gonna, is gonna basically screw over his campaign promise? One thing I know about Trump is he always, you know, he at least will, will, will, you know, deliver on his campaign. But he's got three and a half years to do it. And so the midterms are going to be big. And on the lead up to the midterms, do not be surprised if things start dropping and leaking out. And they said they don't have it now. Well, what do you think they're doing? They're setting up the deep state. Oh, we don't know. We don't have nothing to see here. It's all good, you know, and then you watch people and then they got to clear out the three letter agencies. There's because all of a sudden the evidence went missing. We don't know what happened to it. It just disappeared. The files just got deleted. If you don't clean up the bad people, if you don't get rid of the people the, in those three letter agencies, if you don't clean house, if you don't then, you know, crush it in the midterms and then get rid of these rogue judges by going through Congress, getting rid of all of them. Level setting stuff. This is not a four year typical presidency. This is, you need, this is, this is a last shot chance or like Trump or not, this is the shot we have to make it happen. He wasn't going to take the deep state out. He wasn't going to take this drain the swamp on the first one. A lot of mistakes were made, but this is the shot to do it. And to me, people getting angry with this, I'm like, I'm not angry over this. Three and a half years to go here, right?

[Jeff]

I mean, three and a half years.

[Chip]

To do it, do it. I mean, and the thing is they, if they say like, oh, it was a suicide or and then, well, if you guys pay really close attention like I did when they brought the body out and someone got a picture from far away when they brought the body out, it wasn't Epstein. You get that people took a shot of the face, of the ears. If anything he might be. There's two, two theories he might be in custody. I'm going on a ranch here. He could be in custody. Possible because he knows too much. But the fact is what they trotted out on a stretcher that they loaded up into an ambulance after a supposed suicide, there's, it's hard to find, but there are photos out there of that face compared to Epstein's. Ears are different, the nose is different. He didn't change his face. So something's got to give. So if they say they don't have the evidence in Their possession. Probably a true statement they don't have it. Doesn't say they don't have it somewhere, they might not have it in their possession. And when Pam Bondi comes out and says, I have the, the list on my desk, well, she released the list. We already knew the list was. And it was already, it's nothing new. I mean, so people, I don't know if they pay and what I'm really surprised about are the people on the right that are losing their, over this. This is ridiculous. And you know what? If three and a half years goes by and I know John Deaton's been posting about this and that and Trump this and that, and I go in there and I just say, I speak my mind. I'm like, well, let's see what happens after three and a half years. Let's see what happens. If that's the truth, then we can get up on our high horse and we can start saying that was a promise, you didn't live up to it, blah, blah, blah. But I think this far in, Listen, man, if you know how Trump works, if you ever read the Art of the Deal, if you ever saw how he telegraphs stuff, he'll be halfway into a deal, he'll say, no, I don't need the deal. Well, somebody's already way too invested in the deal and they start panicking, then they start, they start crumbling. It happened on the tariffs. But dude, read the book. It's so, it's so transparent in the book. He, he did the same thing with the tariffs. He's like, no, we're gonna by. This is the drop that date. And if you don't do it, then he moves the date and he does all kinds of things that keep people off their guard. And this is key in a negotiation because at some point you're worried that you're, that the deal you had or thought you were going to get was, is going to be worse. So you call, you basically, you know, give in and this is, look what happened to Brazil. He told Brazil, he told Lula, hey, stop messing around with Bolsonaro. The guy didn't do anything. They're trying to get him on corruption charges. They try to do the same thing to bb they try to do the same thing to Trump. You pay attention to the leaders that they're, that the left is going after with these indictments, these fake made it trumped up charges. Because those are the people you want to pay attention to because those are the leaders that are doing something to off to piss a lot of people off right on both sides of the aisle, the so called UNIP party. And I look at and all of a sudden, what did Trump come out with? Oh, Brazil, you guys are special. You got a 50 tariff and they want to kind of come back, we'll give you a 50 tariff. Don't play the game with Trump. You'll have 100 tariff. And guess who needs the US more than the US needs Brazil. So play games. You want to win stupid prices. That's how you have to do it. But anyway, thanks for giving me the rant, Jeff. I was, I was excited to go off on this topic. You know, I got someplace to. But. But yeah, that's it. I mean, Jeff, where did I go wrong there? I mean, it's. Why are people losing their over. I have to, I had to talk so many people off the wall. And you know, our buddy Jay. Jv. Jay was the same way. Jay's like, dude, what are you guys, what are you guys even talking about? He was, he's one of the few people I saw that said like, this is ridiculous that people are losing their over it. And to be like, I can't believe Trump said like, you're still talking about Epstein. We have these catastrophic floods going on in, in, in Texas. We have all these good news happening. We have the big beautiful bills. And you guys are talking about this now. He's. All he did was inflame those people. This is what Trump does. This is his freaking M.O. this is what he's fantastic at. So much so that the Democrats are crying out and what happened, Epstein? What's Epstein? Most people don't know. You know, maybe your friends and neighbors never heard of Epstein, but they're looking and researching it. This is how you get the people on your side. So when the prosecutions come and oh, look what we found, or, oh, some evidence turned up, huh? How about that? Then you have to have the will of the people on your side. And as you see the polls go up, then it'll be a lot easier. And then these people have already seen the road judges. They already know what the judges are. I mean, we've had more road judges in these districts come out and try to stop Trump, more in the Trump administration than the whole history of time going back to George Washington. But I'm sure it's a coincidence, right?

[Jeff]

It is a coincidence. No, chip, you're 100 spot on. I mean, it's, it's amazing to me. You know, we're, we're five, six months into this thing. Five Six months. There's, and, and yeah, I mean, the whole thing, you know, you want to get into all the things that had that happen and the, you know, the, the whole, the whole ordeal with the whole Epstein thing. Yeah, you know, it's horrible, but that's, you know, there's so many more things from a global scale that have to be orchestrated. You know, right now they have to be taken care of. Right now, five months into it, things have been happening at lightning pace. The fact that, you know, Pam Bondi came out, they say something. You don't think that again, behind the scenes, they're not orchestrating things against people. We're already seeing big victories. We're also seeing, you know, that the GOP has coalesced behind what he needs to have happen. The Democrats were, you know, we saw the, the big beautiful bill come together. That went through, that was key. They're negotiating over tariffs. That's happening right now. You know, went in, had to take care of Iran. You know, there's all these little things that are stacking up one after another. Even the whole Iran thing. Trump went in within 37 hours, came back out, you know, bombed different sites, but yet media personalities came out and they're like, and even some of the conservative ones were like, oh my God, you know, he said no new wars and we're getting ready to be embroiled into, you know, long term, you know, drawn out battle. And that's what they said was going to happen. It just, it's so crazy to me, you know, that, that all of that has happened. But I'm also, you know, seeing, you know, things that are coming out. I see a couple of you guys posting this stuff in here and I have to comment, you know, the fact that anybody thinks that there's some, you know, tie in that the US Government is somehow being manipulated or controlled by Israel is, is the craziest thing I've ever, I've ever seen. And, and I've seen, you know, a lot of libertarians like talking about it, others like trying to connect dots on it yet. Are there Jews in this country? There are Jews in this country. Are there Jews that are in Congress? There are Jews in this, in Congress, there's Catholics in, in Congress, there's Protestants in Congress, and there's a couple Muslims in Congress and in government. And so the fact that everybody wants to focus on Israel is somehow manipulating what's going on in the U.S. government. I mean, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Israel's a Country the size of Rhode Island. Do they, are they able to orchestrate things and have they done pretty amazing things over, over the last years? Yes. You know, do they have, you know, strong lobby in this country? Because there's Jews in this country? They do. You know. Are there other strong lobbies in this country? There are. We just talked about all the corruption from the dnc. Is that being manipulated by Israel too? It's not, you know, is Israel facing, you know, similar type of leftist ideology that's corrupting the government over there like it is over here? Yes. Are there the same players behind it? Yes. If you want to, you know, tie it back to like a George Soros and some of those other people. Yes. You know, there's, there's power moves that are being made. Leftist socialist ideology, Marxist ideology is what's ruling the rule of the day and a corruptive nature of leftist ideology, you know, and that's, and that's the fact, you know, I've, you know, been involved in this a really long time and it's, and it's not true. You know, all the things that I keep seeing being published and posted, it's crazy. Is Mossad a strong secretive agency? It is. Did they just pull off one of the most historic actions in history, what they did with the pagers and even how they infiltrated into the Iranian government? They did. You know. Does the CIA do things? Yes, they're all over the place. The MI6 over in England. Do they infiltrate everywhere? They are, you know, so you have the CIA, you have MI6, you have Mossad, and then you have the KGB over in Russia. Every or every country has its secretive, as their secretive groups that, that do things, you know, but it's, it's crazy. I mean, people keep wanting to focus and mislabeling Zionism. I mean, that just, that kills me also. You obviously don't understand what Zionism means, the terminology. Although the whole concept of Zionism is that there a Zionist is someone that believes in Israel as the, as a, as the Jewish national homeland and that's it, it ends. That's what Zionism is. It doesn't control anything, doesn't do anything else. And if you think that Zionists and, and at large are the, are the holders of all money, then you're ignoring the fact that there's Christians that hold all the money and there's Christians on the leftist, you know, I, that adhere to leftist ideology that are, that are worse, you know, they're, they're equal, you know, equally bad, you know, so why would we ignore that? Why are we going to ignore all the Islamism around the world? Think about all the Islamism, you know, then the Islamists in this country that are info that have infiltrated our government at this country and in Europe. Look at the fall of Europe. Europe's about to collapse. Sweden, England, France and across the, across the board. You know, why are we going to ignore that plight? You know, that, that Islam is getting ready to conquer Europe. But you know what? The, the Islamists are very good at also utilizing anti Semitic rhetoric against the Jews and labeling Zionism. And, and this is where the libertarians buy hook, line and sinker into the Islamist ploy. And that, that's the corruptive nature is that you want to. That when people believe that they're listening to the socialist Marxists that are labeling the Zionists because for the most part those that support Israel, Christians and Jews, they support a strong Israel, they're typically conservatives, they're not leftist, they don't adhere to leftist ideology. They're not socialist Marxists. But, but the ones that want to destroy Israel and want to label this, you know, with this mislabeled terminology are the same ones that want to topple this country. And now you have the Islamists that are behind it and the Islamists are the foot soldiers and they're all over and they're destroying Europe right now. Let's. So we want to talk about false narratives. Let's look at the real narrative, what's happening and let's take a look at the collapse of Europe because it's imminent. It's imminent. The United States is the last bastion of freedom in the United states. Of all 50 states, there's a handful of states that are going to stand up for freedom. Florida having to be one of them. The majority of the states are falling to leftist ideology. Look at, even Colorado used to be a Republican stronghold. They, they've destroyed Colorado. It's now a leftist stronghold. California, New York, etc. You know, the states are toppling not to the level that the European nations are. You know, the European nations are definitely falling. But look at it. You know, XRP Plumbing says it's not a country, nor is, of course it's a state. How is it a racist terrorist organization? That's the. And it's not stolen land. That's a false narrative that's going to adhere the fact. Who did they steal the land from? Themselves, you know, back biblically. Look at history, look at biblical history. Look at history in general. And let's just go through the years and you'll see a hundred percent that Israel is the is, has always been the land of the Jews and it's the epicenter of Christianity and Judaism and that's it. That's the bottom line. So who do they steal from? The Muslims. So if you're going to adhere to that, you're buying the Islamist rhetoric hook, line and sinker again, because Israel is the land of Christians and Jews. There, there is no disagreement, it's history, it's fact. So go based on fact, don't go based on false narratives and fictitious information like the facts.

[Chip]

This is what I love. This is what I love in a debate when you can't bring receipts, but you want to talk about your feelings and what you feel like. Because Jeff, you know the Jews are responsible for all the evil in the world. Don't you know that the Jews are the money grabbers? And don't you know that the Jews are behind every central bank because of the Rothschild name, who is debatable in itself, but they're responsible for everything. But they don't have a right to have a country that goes back 3,000 plus years that is tied to it. I mean, and it's Christianity too, 2000 plus years that can tie it to it, but even further than that. And so that's the receipts. So if you look at, so this whole idea and, and, and why is it that the surrounding neighboring countries, which are Islamic countries like Egypt, like Jordan, do want no part of anybody from Hamas or they want anybody from Gaza? They won't allow them in the country, they won't allow them near the border, they'll shoot them if they come anywhere. Because they don't want that negativity in their country. They don't want that element in the country. They said it publicly and that's why, you know, maybe publicly they're saying one thing, but that's why they're cutting deals. If you look at in that region, what most people don't know, if you're not in tech, you don't understand that Israel is an epicenter of tech. How can a country so small have some of the most impressive startups, most impressive things that are going on in AI and you don't, you're never going to read it unless you're like a real tech head like me. You'll never read about this, but I deal with companies from Israel all the time. And there's some of the, I mean, I'm always shocked that they create these amazing countries. I mean these amazing companies and most people don't even know that. But there's, there's the tax, there's a lot of stuff going on. But this whole, these whole narratives get me crazy because I have to like battle people online. I'm like, you just don't know your history, you don't understand. And even recent history from when, you know, going back to the 40s when Israel became a nation, like if you look at all the area it's in, you know, and that's another we. I, I gotta go. But I'm just saying that this is for another time. But this whole thing is like, you know, bring the receipts. If you want to bring some receipts, bring them. And I'm talking about some, some factual proof. If not, it's just a feeling you got and you want to just, you want to. Because there's always someone to hate. But I hate. I'll tell everybody when Israel is gone. Let's suppose Israel's gone. Never on the map anymore. The US is the real target. They'll tell you time and again, Christianityism, want them both destroyed. And you know, you got, you got Christians that are being slaughtered.

[Jeff]

Nobody nobody talks about it. No one ever talks about it, Chip, ever.

[Chip]

They never talk, they never talk about all, I mean hundreds, if thousands are being slaughtered, just killed home and you know, torn up. You got to. Also going on in South Africa, you know, it's, there's Christians around the world that are being destroyed. Never makes a thing. One thing happens and then everyone's gonna stand up and, and, and the, you know, to me, you can't have a religion that's not based on some element of love or treating people well. If you're, if your religion says you kill people, hey, if you don't believe like me, I kill you. I'm sorry, I don't know if that qualifies as a good natured sort of a thing. But I also know plenty of people too that don't have that in their hearts. It's just the one sector. But that 20 of bad seeds seems to be a pretty strong element. And look at what happened around the world. Look what's happening in the uk. You know, these, these grooming gangs, you know, these young women that are being raped and where they get slap on the wrist because they don't want to look racist. It's not about being racist, about doing the right thing. If somebody does that, you gotta, you gotta, there has to be a consequence. So when there's not a consequence, that's free reign, man. The door is Open, go. Do it as many times as you want. What's the worst happens? You get deported, whatever. You can always go back to your crap whole country. You know, that's why that guy that does the marbles, we'll have to play that one. He talks about poverty, you know, he puts the marbles in U. S. Takes another. Oh, yeah, it's the greatest thing in the world because the first time you can understand on that level that none of it matters. And the best, the main thing that matters is making those countries better, having those countries do better things for themselves because you're not going to solve it and that you're not going to bring them in here. Everyone's like, oh, the US and they're throwing people out. Well, great. Open your doors. Open your doors. Where do you live? What country you live in? How many are you going to take in? You know, in the Vatican. You know, I grew up catholic, but the Vatican's the probably the worst of all. They got this giant wall around there, and you got the pope criticizing the wall. Well, take down your wall. And how many refugees would you like to take in? And how is, and this place? And let's see how long these antiquities and all of this stuff stays around for in one piece before it gets destroyed, pissed on, crapped on. Right? Let's see how long that stays. I, I, I don't say very long. So don't be a hypocrite. If you're willing to go ahead and, and line it up, you know, and put temporary housing in there, great, because the Vatican runs its own city. It's his own epicenter. It gets taxed very differently in Italy. So this whole, this, all this, all this kind of stuff of like, oh, we're, you need to do this. No, the US doesn't need to do anything. US Needs to take care of its people. Every country needs to take care of its people. I didn't see that last one. Like you like a brother. Well, that, that goes. Well, that's even worse. You love them like a brother. Now, now it makes sense. Now, now it all makes sense.

[Jeff]

In.

[Chip]

In. Yeah. Sorry, man, we ran long. We didn't mean to go long, but, man, you set it, set us off here.

[Jeff]

But yeah, anyway, we can get into that in a whole different show. I definitely know my history. I've studied it inside and out, and I've traveled the world, I've been to a lot of parts of the world. I've seen it all. But yet, you know, I just don't understand. I'll never understand why people are willing to ignore Islam and what the Islamists are doing and what their agenda is. You know, what their agenda is and how they're conquering the world. They've already said it. They're the ones that are outspoken about not, you know, destroying the world, you know, turning into a caliphate, but yet people want to ignore that, you know, and, and Christians are going down harder than, you know, it's crazy to me. Why, why won't people speak out about Christianity? I, I just don't understand why people won't defend. Why, why isn't there, you know, Christian Zionism? You know, let's, let's look at it, you know, for, for Christianity. Let's save Christianity. Let's save Judaism, you know, and I don't understand why people are okay with the caliphate and they're okay with the Muslim nations supporting this and destroying the United States and destroying Europe. But, you know, the biggest part in Europe is that just like every, every religion, I don't care if you're Jewish, I don't care if you're Christian. As soon as you adhere to, you know, leftist socialist ideology and you want to become a complete atheist, once you become an atheist, you're no longer a member of that religion anymore. You've now gone so far, you know, to the other side that you're going to do everything you can and be outspoken against your, you know, against your religions. And because they don't believe in organized religions, they want to topple them, they want to destroy them, but yet they want to ignore the Islamists. And, and, and that's, and there, there's Europe right there.

[Chip]

Tim D. Says it right here. The Vatican was originally put up to defend against routine Islamic invaders and looters. Right? And you have the Crusades and people like, like all the Christians were so evil. They were reclaiming what was theirs. It was stolen from them. Right? And then USW OSW says the Crusade started because of Islamists. Read history.

[Jeff]

Exactly.

[Chip]

This is exactly what I was saying. It's like, I mean, people go like, oh, you know, the Crusades were so bad. I don't know where the mental breakdown happens for people, but there has to be some kind of mental illness conditioning because you can't take this negative stuff in all the time without doing a little bit of reading of history, because it all goes back. And if you go back 3,000 years, you can see that it's there. And, and even if you look in the, in the, in the, in the Bible, you know, even in Chris Under Christianity, it talks about the palace, Palestine and Palestinians, but not in the way that you think. It's not exactly like there's a land and there's a place and there's a, you know, none of that stuff at all. So to me, it's. It's. It's a lot of. It's fabricated, and thank God we have something like, you know, Scriptures to be able to go back to and get an account of what it was like at least, you know, two to 3,000 years. So it's not like. And if you think about it, Israel is also the home of Christianity. You know, Christ was a Jew. Christ was a Jew. And he was. And people like, oh, the Jews killed him. Yeah, he was a Jew. They were all Jews. I mean, you know, it's like.

[Jeff]

It was the Romans. The Romans were in charge. The Romans were in the region, Right?

[Chip]

The Romans were controlling the region, and they said that the. Did. The Jews killed them. You know, Pontius Pilate, you know, it's like the, the. There's so much misinformation about everything. They go, oh, the Jews ratted them out. Well, guess what? It'd be like. It'd be like in the U.S. and they said, oh, the U.S. read, you know, someone in the U.S. read them out. Yeah, because they're all in the U.S. it's like. Right. It's. It's. To me, it's just.

[Jeff]

It's amazing to me. You know, we go back historically and we go and look at that region, you know, and here's the one thing that you can rely on 100. This is whether you're Israel or the U.S. if Israel today, you know, put down all their weapons and said, look, we're. We're, you know, we're gonna retreat. We're not gonna. We're gonna put our weapons down, then you would have. The Islamists would come in and destroy Israel. They would destroy them. If, If Hamas put their weapons down, that would be it. That would be the end of the fighting. It would be as simple as that. It'd be over. They'd be done. You know, same thing in Iran. If Iran, you know, didn't have any ambition towards nuclear armament, none of that would have happened, you know, and, and that's, you know, historically speaking, you know, and that's just how it is, you know, I mean, think about, you know, everything that. That the US has had to do throughout history. You know, if we wouldn't have gotten involved in World War II, where would things have ended up? If we would have Just said, look, we're not going to fight. Were, you know, then the rest of the world would have been speaking German by now. I mean, it would have been, you know, it's, it's just crazy to me, you know, it's just, it's so such a. An easy, it's an easy situation to understand, that's all.

[Chip]

Yeah, and we, we spent some time. I spent some time before you got there. But Jim D. And I were talking about this. Jim Dia also knows his history really well and it's very well read on the subject as well. Crusades are 300 years, uh, tardy response. Islamic raping, pillaging, negotiations on the offense. Yeah, a little bit, A little bit laid true. But Jim D. We had some in depth conversations about that, so it was really good to hear. But anyway, guys, we are going to get out of here. We went long. Didn't mean to. I need to get out of here. Thank you for everybody for coming in to get a little bit longer. Sometimes in the weekend. But we will be back tomorrow night. Yeah, well, good for you. That's good. Because you, you'd all be speaking Europe would be German. If you speak in one language. Just remember one thing. What makes up a country? Language, culture, borders. You lose any one of those, you're done, man. You're done. Pack it in. If you lose two or three of them, it's over, baby. And that's why Europe be conquered. And maybe 300 years from now. Crusade, right?

[Jeff]

Yeah, hopefully.

[Chip]

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