The Harvard Plan is Back. Episode 1: And So It Begins...

Summary

On the Media: "The Harvard Plan is Back"

Episode 1: And So It Begins...
Date: October 31, 2025
Host: Ilya Marritz (with contributions from Brooke Gladstone, Camilla Nakserova, Kit Parker, Ryan Enos, and more)
Podcast: On the Media (OTM), in collaboration with the Boston Globe

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Overview

This episode launches season two of "The Harvard Plan," a deep, reported series examining the escalating conflict between American universities—especially Harvard—and a new Trump administration wielding executive power to dramatically reshape higher education. With research funding, student visas, and academic freedoms all at stake, Harvard and its critics both reckon with existential questions about independence, democracy, and the role of universities in society.

This premiere sets the scene as Trump returns to power. Listeners hear from Harvard professors across the political spectrum as the administration targets elite campuses with unprecedented investigations and funding cuts, all under the banner of fighting antisemitism. Against this backdrop of pressure and uncertainty, Harvard chooses—unlike all others—to stand up and fight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Backdrop: Universities Under Fire

• 2025 sees massive upheaval in higher education: presidents resign, research grants are rescinded, and foreign students detained (00:26).
• Long-running conservative critiques against universities resurface with new intensity in the Trump administration (01:42), including direct threats to end federal funding for "Marxist" universities.

2. Election Night: Quiet Before the Storm

• Political scientist Ryan Enos expected a standard election night—Trump’s win (despite predictions) alarms but doesn’t panic the liberal Harvard campus (03:26–06:19).
• Medical researcher Camilla Nakserova, originally from Communist Czechoslovakia, illustrates the naïveté many felt about the scale of looming change:
  • "Some of my more conservative colleagues...had already told me as early as November next year, ‘if Harvard's still here then.’" (08:45)

3. Inside Harvard: Contrasting Faculty Perspectives

• Kit Parker (bioengineering professor, Army Reserve colonel):

  • One of very few conservative voices at Harvard (11:02), voted twice for Trump for foreign policy reasons, but is critical of Harvard’s “leftward drift”:
    • "Harvard should be like an intellectual cage match." (11:57)
  • Aware of the contradiction:
    • "Does a Republican who's against big government want federal intervention? No...but I'm a committer. I committed to Harvard. I committed to the United States." (21:00, 26:13)

• Camilla Nakserova (medical researcher):

  • Focused on research, blindsided by consequences for lab funding and job security:
    • "Would we just have to fire people overnight?...I can't provide the security, job security that I usually aim to provide for everybody who comes to the lab." (29:06–29:29)

• Ryan Enos (political scientist):

  • Motivated by a crisis of academic independence, eventually organizes faculty resistance:
    • "It kind of seemed like it was going to happen any moment." (19:36)
    • "We cannot compromise on basic principles like defense of our First Amendment rights." (30:02)

4. Escalation: The Trump Administration’s Offensive

• Task force, letters, and threats: The government launches an intense campaign against universities, using accusations of antisemitism to justify investigations and funding freezes (14:11, 15:31, 20:12).
• Heavy-handed tactics include threatening Harvard with an $8.7 billion cut and demanding the abolition of DEI programs, installing conservative faculty, and subjection to audits (20:12, 20:42).

5. Harvard’s Choice: Stand or Surrender

• Amid mounting faculty activism (open letters, rallies) and government ultimatums, President Alan Garber announces Harvard will not comply—becoming the first school to openly resist (25:07):

  • "The university will not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights." (25:07)

• Other universities, including Columbia, capitulate or strike deals; Harvard sues the government in federal court (27:30).

6. Immediate Fallouts and Personal Toll

• Research funding, especially NIH grants, is suddenly halted, forcing layoffs and plunging labs into uncertainty (28:43, 29:06).
• The administration threatens Harvard’s ability to enroll foreign students, escalating the standoff (30:19).
• Despite a few victories (a judge orders NIH money restored in September), pressure persists, and the academic community is left demoralized and divided (45:45, 43:16).

7. Bigger Questions: Principles, Power, and Pretext

• Faculty and administration confront questions about when to fight, what compromise means for democracy, and the true aims of government intervention (27:50–29:03, 36:19–37:03).
• Kit Parker’s story illustrates the costs (career setbacks, investigations) of dissent within the university (41:12).
• Camilla confronts lost faith in government; considers alternatives if government support evaporates:
  • "Maybe I would have to go back to Europe after all...I do love America, so I would probably look for a job in industry. Maybe I would become a stay at home mom. Who knows?" (45:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"Harvard should be like an intellectual cage match."
— Kit Parker (11:57)

"We cannot compromise on basic principles like defense of our First Amendment rights."
— Ryan Enos (30:02)

"It's understandable people would want to say, we just want to move on. That, of course, is absolutely the nature of extortion. Right?"
— Ryan Enos (36:19)

"Does a Republican who's against big government want federal intervention and monitoring of this campus? No...but I'm a committer. I committed to Harvard. I committed to the United States."
— Kit Parker (21:00, 26:13)

"Maybe it was a little bit naive to think that just because it's the government for sure, I can like absolutely 100% count on it."
— Camilla Nakserova (44:49)

"It's a bare knuckle fight for money, prestige and power."
— Ilya Merritz (49:48)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:26–01:42 — Setting the scene: chaos and crackdown at universities
• 03:26–06:19 — Ryan Enos and Camilla Nakserova on campus post-election
• 08:45 — Early warnings from conservative colleagues
• 11:02–12:23 — Kit Parker on being a conservative at Harvard
• 14:11–15:31 — Trump task force and government escalation
• 18:26–20:12 — Organizing faculty resistance and government ultimatums
• 25:07–25:57 — Harvard publicly rejects government demands
• 29:06–29:29 — Immediate consequences for research labs
• 30:19–30:42 — Student visa programs threatened
• 36:19–37:03 — Extortion analogies, the democracy question
• 41:05–41:37 — Kit Parker on investigations and career consequences
• 43:16–44:45 — Medical researchers’ perspectives on the value of settlement and the cost of principle
• 45:45–46:19 — Uncertainty about the future for researchers
• 47:20–47:27 — Is Harvard trying to wait out Trump?
• 48:54–49:22 — The personal stakes for President Alan Garber
• 49:48 — Final framing: "bare knuckle fight for money, prestige and power"

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Final Thoughts and Setup for Next Episode

The inaugural episode ends with Harvard alone at the legal barricades, other universities watching anxiously from the sidelines, and everyone—presidents, professors, students—unsure how much more pain the system can absorb. The series promises to delve deeper into the personal dynamics (especially between Alan Garber and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya), the fate of university research, and what true resistance means when both principle and livelihoods are on the line.

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For Listeners

If you care about academic freedom, research, and the future shape of higher education, this episode is both a warning and a call to attention. Harvard’s standoff could define the boundaries of academic and political independence for a generation.

Transcript

[Ilya Merritz]

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[Brooke Gladstone]

And I'm Brooke Gladstone. It's been a heck of a year for the universities. To date, we've seen college presidents resign under pressure campaigns.

[Ilya Merritz]

James Ryan announced his departure today amid a Justice department investigation into UVA's diversity.

[Ryan Enos]

Equity and inclusion efforts.

[Brooke Gladstone]

Foreign born holders of student visas indefinitely detained for exercising their free speech rights.

[Ilya Merritz]

Romesa Ozturk and others identified as pro Palestinian activists have had visas revoked or.

[Kit Parker]

Their legal status challenged by the Trump.

[Brooke Gladstone]

Administration of millions of dollars already allocated for research grants for diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's rescinded. But none of the seismic shifts that have occurred this year at universities should have come as a surprise. The fault lines were there for all to see back when Donald Trump was still on the campaign trail last year.

[Kit Parker]

When I return to the White House, I will fire the radical left accreditors.

[Ilya Merritz]

That have allowed our colleges to become.

[Kit Parker]

Dominated by Marxists, maniacs and lunatics.

[Brooke Gladstone]

So far, the accreditors have kept their jobs. But as the evidence piles up, it's clear that Trump was not making idle threats against the universities. And it wasn't just the president setting off alarm bells.

[Ilya Merritz]

We have to honestly and aggressively attack.

[Ryan Enos]

The universities in this country.

[Brooke Gladstone]

In fact, there's a strain on the political right that has been gunning for universities for decades. Last year, we explored that history in season one of the Harvard Plan, which we made in partnership with the Boston Globe. The series focused on the short, tumultuous tenure of the first black president of the university, Claudine Gay, and the forces that arrayed to hound her out of that position. As a reminder, it was all unfolding in the wake of the anti war encampments, the accusations of anti Semitism on campus, and the disastrous congressional hearings that put university leaders like Gay in the firing line.

[Camilla Nakserova]

It's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying, harassment, does that speech not cross that barrier?

[Ilya Merritz]

Does that speech not call for the.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Genocide of Jews and the elimination of Israel?

[Brooke Gladstone]

What we Learned in Season 1 was that this campaign to force change on universities had allies in high places who were waiting for the pendulum to swing in their favor. Now, with Trump in the White House it has given all of that. When our friends at the Boston Globe asked if we wanted to make a new season of the Harvard Plan, it was a no brainer. So over the next three weeks, the reporter and host of the series, Ilya Merits will take us inside the pressure campaign on universities big and small, public and private. We start off with the oldest and richest university and the only school that's fought back in court. Here's Ilya.

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan looked forward to election night 2024. He expected a pleasant return to form the way election nights used to be.

[Ryan Enos]

This is going to be elections being fun again. We're going to sit, we're going to drink beer, we're going to watch election turns come in and play like games.

[Ilya Merritz]

I say return to form because the 2016 election hit Ryan like a sucker punch. Not because he doesn't like Trump, although he definitely does not like Trump, but because the models failed so badly. Ryan Enos is a political scientist at Harvard, and specifically he's a numbers guy.

[Ryan Enos]

It seemed like this kind of tragedy for quantitative political science because it defied a lot of people's predictions.

[Ilya Merritz]

Then came 2020, the COVID election, and after that, the false claims of a stolen election. Still going into the First Tuesday of November 2024, Ryan felt good about the models. That evening, he made his way over to Memorial hall, which is the most Hogwartsy building on Harvard's campus. They throw a big election watch party there every four years. A lot of undergrads turn out.

[Ryan Enos]

My role was to kind of tell them what they wanted to hear, which was that Harris was going to win, you know, which was, I wasn't just making that up. That's what, like, these models showed. But I think they were happy to.

[Ilya Merritz]

Hear that Ryan stayed just long enough for the early returns to show the models were off again. Trump was doing a bit better than expected.

[Ryan Enos]

Donald Trump will carry the state of Florida.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I can see their fingers probably bleeding because there's no more nail to bite.

[Ilya Merritz]

He then walked a few blocks to where his poli sci grad students had their own smaller gathering.

[Ryan Enos]

By the time I got over here to the graduate students, there was some data that was just starting to come in that really meant, like, something extraordinary would have to happen for Harris to pull it out.

[Ilya Merritz]

The mood in the room was deflating rapidly. Harvard students and faculty are overwhelmingly liberal, progressive Democrats. But Ryan was not inclined to despair. To him, 2024 felt different from 2016.

[Ryan Enos]

Because in 2016, that actually really panicked me. I was like, this is something that could have significant effects for democracy in the United States and for our lives. And that actually didn't really turn out to be true. I didn't love the policies for four years, but I live with policies I don't like all the time.

[Ilya Merritz]

He told the grad students, we're going to be okay.

[Ryan Enos]

I said, you know, we went through four years of Trump, and it wasn't a big deal. Like, you know, it wasn't great, but, you know, the country got through it.

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan told me, people can call me naive if they want to. We did this interview on a beautiful day outdoors just before the start of a new semester, with young people joining orientation activities all around us. You could almost convince yourself that since election night, nothing much had really changed in the life of this university. Camilla saw Donald Trump's second election to the presidency similarly to how Ryan did.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Ah, it's all just drama. No, no. Last time around, nothing happened. Nothing's going to happen. It'll be fine.

[Ilya Merritz]

She's a professor and researcher at Harvard Medical School. She studies cancer cells, not politics. And her lived experience gave her a lot of faith in the United States. Kamila Nakserova was born in Communist Czechoslovakia and emigrated as a young girl with her mother to West Germany. They were joined later by her father, who crossed the Iron Curtain by air. Czech men, and I say this from personal experience, my people come from there. Czech men can be very inventive.

[Camilla Nakserova]

He built his own plane. He carved a propeller out of wood. He took the motor out of an old car and built it onto a type of glider.

[Ilya Merritz]

After university, Camilla came to the States for an internship at Boston Children's Hospital.

[Camilla Nakserova]

And I was supposed to stay for three months. And as soon as I experienced the American scientific culture, really, and I'm not exaggerating here, I decided I'm never going back. I'm never going back to Europe. I'll stay here forever and I'll do science here forever.

[Ilya Merritz]

As a younger person, you could share an idea and be taken seriously. Collaboration was encouraged.

[Camilla Nakserova]

It was a big revelation for me, coming here and really experiencing that.

[Ilya Merritz]

And she went all the way, getting a PhD and then a faculty job at Harvard with her own lab.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Here's our cell culture room.

[Ryan Enos]

Oh, wow.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Where we do genetic screens.

[Ilya Merritz]

You have the white lab coats on hangers.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Yes, exactly.

[Ilya Merritz]

Naxarova lab is a series of bays punctuated by an industrial sink here, some advanced scientific gadget there, and a small crew of postdocs and lab assistants at computers. At the end of it, like a captain's quarters, is Camilla's office with floor to ceiling windows and a big couch.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I lie down there all the time. I like my couch.

[Ilya Merritz]

They have big goals here. It's about nothing less than life and death really. To understand the way cancer cells spread from one organ to another. A lot of the work is in colorectal cancers which have risen sharply in younger people. With any luck, her work will lead to a breakthrough in treatment. So last November her focus was on that and on her young family, not, it turns out, what was coming around the corner.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I think some people knew, but most of us were just completely oblivious.

[Ilya Merritz]

Later, Camilla questioned her blase attitude about the incoming administration.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Some of my more conservative colleagues were actually reading the conservative press and just know what the discussion points are. Had already told me as early as November next year, if Harvard's still here then. Haha. And I remember thinking what, what, what? I don't. I really. I couldn't even make sense of like what he meant by that. And only later it dawned on me. Oh wow. Yeah. I mean there is a pocket of conservative press that has been talking about straight out destroying us and other institutions like us for a long time.

[Kit Parker]

So let me just give you a quick orientation.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit keeps military habits. When I met him on Saturday morning at 8 at his lab at the Harvard Engineering Building, he told me he'd risen at 3:45, had already worked out and taken one meeting. He's a colonel in the Army Reserves who did two tours and two shorter deployments in Afghanistan. And he's also a professor of bioengineering.

[Ryan Enos]

This is my office.

[Kit Parker]

Do you want to see the lab right quick?

[Ryan Enos]

Yeah.

[Ilya Merritz]

Yes, absolutely. If a professor's lab is a mirror of their mind, Kit Parker's mind is restless, hungry for new things.

[Kit Parker]

I got frustrated with the lack of creativity in my science engineering students. So I ripped out part of my lab and built a studio space for artists.

[Ilya Merritz]

On the walls are these big maps of world cities made, so I'm told, from living cell samples.

[Kit Parker]

These are pig and you know, they beat. And so you're looking the microscope and the whole city is throbbing, you know, because they get synchronized in their beer.

[Ilya Merritz]

He showed me a 300 pound he created with his students when he taught a class on barbecue. He has a patent on it. Actually. Kit has quite a few patents reflecting his eclectic interests.

[Kit Parker]

I've always been kind of interested in couture.

[Ilya Merritz]

A few years ago he taught a class on fashion.

[Kit Parker]

Worn a lot of camouflage. In 2009, when I was in Afghanistan, we were wearing this pixelated kind of blue uniforms, and we were getting, like, shot at by these Chechnyan snipers from, like, a long way away because you could see us because of this uniform. It was like I had a road flare duct taped on my forehead.

[Ilya Merritz]

One thing that makes Kit conspicuous is this. He's one of the few Harvard professors known to be conservative to vote Republican.

[Kit Parker]

I voted for President Trump the first time because I needed him to end the war in Afghanistan, and he promised to do that. I didn't think I was going to have any peace in my own life until that war because even if I wasn't going back there, it was always there, and I needed it to end.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit voted for Trump again in 2024. That election night, he went to bed early, feeling that Trump would win and also feeling that very likely he'd take a look at universities and properly so.

[Kit Parker]

We're unable to complete our mission by hosting debate and thoughtful discussion about the issues of the day represented by both sides. We continue to lower standards for admissions and scholarship and integrity of scholarship.

[Ilya Merritz]

Between the ever expanding bureaucracy and the leftward drift of campus conventional thinking, Kit felt stifled.

[Kit Parker]

We had spent 10 years talking about diversity, equity, inclusion, while we were aggressively excluding or silencing conservative voices on campus. Harvard should be like an intellectual cage match.

[Ilya Merritz]

So the next morning, when he learned Trump had been re elected in 2024, Kitt felt upbeat. Trump shared his concerns. Kitt told colleagues Harvard should go to Trump and open up a dialogue.

[Kit Parker]

When you go, talk to him immediately. If he talks to Putin and Kim, he'll talk to us.

[Ilya Merritz]

With some prodding from the new administration, Kitt hoped Harvard could heal itself. Coming up, Harvard does not go talk to the new president. Instead, Trump brings the fight to Harvard. It's the Harvard Plan from the Boston Globe and on the media, I'm Eric Glass. On this American Life, we tell real life stories, really good ones.

[Kit Parker]

My mother said, I'm sorry you weren't.

[Ryan Enos]

Here because Father Sager was here visiting.

[Kit Parker]

And he found a very nice orphanage for you.

[Ilya Merritz]

And I said, but I'm not an orphan. Surprising stories every week. This American Life. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Camilla Nakserova]

This.

[Ilya Merritz]

Is on the media. I'm Ilya Merritz, host of the Harvard Plan, an OTM series made in collaboration with the Boston Globe. Kit Parker, a Trump voting professor of bioengineering, was right that Trump was looking at higher ed. Shortly after being sworn in, the new president ordered the formation of a task force to investigate antisemitism at universities. It came under the umbrella of the general Services Administration. The chairman of the group was a lawyer named Leo Terrell, who did a lot of TV hits.

[Ryan Enos]

We are going to use every federal criminal statute to go after these anti Semites, these people who hate Jews. We're going to bankrupt these universities. We're going to take away every single federal dollar.

[Ilya Merritz]

Then letters went out to 60 colleges and universities informing them they were under investigation by the Department of Education for allowing a climate of antisemitism to take hold. Then the Secretary of State began revoking hundreds of student visas, apparently over their activism around Gaza, vandalizing universities, harassing students, taking over building, creating a ruckus. We're not going to give you a visa. For Camilla, the first sign of trouble was delivered by the medical school's dean, who warned faculty that investigations into antisemitism could affect their work. Camilla didn't see the connection.

[Camilla Nakserova]

That's surprising. That can't possibly be a big issue.

[Ilya Merritz]

A much bigger problem in her mind was a new effort by the Trump administration to cut the money universities collect on top of government grants to cover overhead like heat and electricity. It's called indirect costs.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I remember being like, why are we talking about anti Semitism? We should be talking about indirect costs. Isn't that the problem that we're facing?

[Ilya Merritz]

In March, Columbia became the first university to be directly singled out by the government for alleged lapses in dealing with antisemitism on campus. To focus the minds of people at Columbia, the administration also canceled hundreds of millions of research dollars.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Then we would all frantically reach out to colleagues at Columbia and try to find out, has your grant been canceled? How about this other person's grant, this person who works on cancer in a similar field as me? Has their grant been canceled? Because we didn't really understand what was.

[Ilya Merritz]

Happening, Columbia soon relented. The school tightened its protest policies and adopted the broad, some say too broad, definition of antisemitism favored by the Trump administration, the government froze all of Columbia's research funding anyway. No deal.

[Camilla Nakserova]

That's, I think, when we all started being very afraid because it was clear that, you know, we might well be next.

[Ilya Merritz]

For Camilla, there was one more complication. She was pregnant. She had a baby in March, her second kid.

[Camilla Nakserova]

So I had a few weeks of bliss, you know, where I had actually decided this year for the first time, I'm going to really just take time off. I'm not going to worry about work. I'm just going to be with a baby.

[Ilya Merritz]

But the pressure campaign was just heating up. All righty, joining us now, my Very dear friend, Education Secretary Linda McMahon. You are essentially taking out $400 million from Columbia University.

[Ryan Enos]

Are you looking at some of the.

[Ilya Merritz]

Other elite schools who are having the same program problems? We've now launched investigations into five different universities, Harvard being one.

[Ryan Enos]

Columbia was one. What's Harvard got to worry about? Money.

[Ilya Merritz]

They've got an endowment of $51 billion.

[Camilla Nakserova]

They don't really need to worry. But they are reading the tea leaves here a bit. They saw what happened at Columbia yanking the 400 million.

[Ryan Enos]

Not only have I targeted 13 schools, I'm sending letters to the mayors and the DAs of LA, Boston, New York, Chicago. Do your job or we'll do it for you, and we are going to file hate crimes.

[Ilya Merritz]

The second Trump administration was turning out so differently from what Ryan had expected. Not only were universities under pressure, so were news organizations, media companies, law firms, corporations. Many of them were capitulating. Doge's rampage through government had everyone on edge. Ryan was concerned by what was happening inside Harvard as well. DEI initiatives were renamed or scaled back. The university ended a partnership with a school in the West Bank. It removed the heads of a Middle.

[Ryan Enos]

East studies center, essentially complying in advance with the Trump administration.

[Ilya Merritz]

It seemed wrong, and Ryan felt called to do something. But there was a problem. He's a political scientist.

[Ryan Enos]

You don't do politics. And I always kind of thought I was somebody that especially didn't do campus politics like that was a waste of my time.

[Ilya Merritz]

He thought, eff it, I need to act. Together with a colleague who studies Latin American politics, Steve Levitsky, he published a series of opinion pieces in the school newspaper, the Crimson. The titles read like the Beginnings of a Harvard Must Take a Stand for Democracy. First, they came for Columbia Appeasing Trump Damages Harvard and America. One of those pieces resulted in an invitation to meet with Harvard's president, Alan Garber, in his office.

[Ryan Enos]

We sat down and made our case.

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan found Garber to be very different from a lot of administrators who nod and write things down and don't really engage. He says it's frustrating.

[Ryan Enos]

And Garber, on the other hand, will argue with you about things. Like he'll tell you why he disagrees with you, or you'll say something, and then he'll ask you to justify it. Right. And then you have to start thinking on your feet about why exactly you said that.

[Ilya Merritz]

So they debated pros and cons. Ryan says Garber left him feeling hurt, but not hopeful.

[Ryan Enos]

He had some pretty firm reasons about why Harvard probably would be futile for.

[Ilya Merritz]

It to push back the pressure on universities seemed to be constantly ratcheting up. Ryan asked himself what more he could do.

[Ryan Enos]

Seemed like it was so imminent that Harvard was going to fold. It kind of seemed like it was going to happen any moment.

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan and some others coalesced around the idea of an open letter from faculty to at least make it clear that surrender was not okay with them. He and Levitsky drafted it over spring break.

[Ryan Enos]

We hit send to all the faculty we know and held our breath to see what would happen.

[Ilya Merritz]

One by one, people added their names. Eventually, the number passed 800.

[Ryan Enos]

You could see them coming in. You know, I was watching these and, like, typing them into an Excel spreadsheet in my in law's living room and thinking that, like, oh, we really are going to make a statement here.

[Ilya Merritz]

It was that same way week that the government turned its attention to Harvard. A March 31st letter from the Anti Semitism task force informed Harvard that $8.7 billion in federal funding was under review. A letter on April 3rd offered some preconditions for continuing to receive public money, including abolishing DEI programs. Another document that same day offered a choice between installing new leadership in problematic departments and entering receivership.

[Kit Parker]

Does anyone in America think that Harvard's capable of fixing itself other than the folks at Harvard? Nope. No one thinks Harvard can fix itself.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit watched the Trump administration's pressure campaign approvingly, but also aware that his own values were being tested.

[Kit Parker]

Does a Republican who's against big government want federal intervention and monitoring of this campus? No. It's not what conservative ideas about the role of government should be.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit, Camilla and Ryan, they each have different ideas about what's most at stake. For Kit, it's academic freedom and the intellectual cage match. For Camilla, it's serving the public through research and innovation only. Ryan had a critical mass of people on campus feeling the same way he did and organizing their thing is the independence of the university. Saturday, 12 April, the no surrender people held a rally on Cambridge Common under gray skies with spitting wind and rain. In an insulated canvas work coat, Ryan climbed to the lectern. He told a story about growing up in a California town that had fallen on hard times.

[Ryan Enos]

But you know what we heard? We heard that the University of California was going to open a new campus somewhere in the San Joaquin Valley to bring education to the region. And people dreamed that that new university would be in my town. So people organized and they lobbied and they worked and that university did open and that transformed my community.

[Ilya Merritz]

It brought knowledge and jobs and pride, he said. And that is what Donald Trump wants to take away.

[Ryan Enos]

We are waiting on you, Harvard. When will you speak up? If you don't speak up, who will? That was the first time I'd ever spoken at a rally. I didn't even know I was capable of that.

[Ilya Merritz]

But there was something important Ryan and the others did not know that day. The night before, Harvard had received yet another letter from the government. This one was more like an ultimatum. If the university wanted to keep its financial relationship with the government, it would have to submit now to government audits for three years and bring in an unspecified number of conservative students and faculty. There would be no more delaying, no punting. It was yes or no time.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Harvard, stand up.

[Ilya Merritz]

Follow the rule of law.

[Kit Parker]

If Harvard folds, then others are definitely gonna follow suit.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Don't give in without a fight.

[Ilya Merritz]

Coming up after the break, fight or fold, Harvard's leaders make up their minds. This is the Harvard Plan from the Boston Globe and on the media, I'm Eric Glass. On this American Life, we tell real life stories, really good ones.

[Kit Parker]

My mother said, I'm sorry you weren't.

[Ryan Enos]

Here because Father Sager was here visiting.

[Kit Parker]

And he found a very nice orphanage for you.

[Ilya Merritz]

And I said, but I'm not an orphan, Ma. Surprising stories every week. This American Life. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts, this is on the media. I'm Ilya Maritz, host of the Harvard Plan, an OTM series made in collaboration with the Boston Globe. Before the break, professors and students held a rally pleading with Harvard not to give in to government pressure. That was on a Saturday. The following Monday, at exactly 1:30pm Eastern time, thousands of people, faculty, students, really anyone who's ever had any kind of Harvard affiliation received an email from Harvard's president, Alan Garber. It was an answer to the government's ultimatum. The university will not surrender its independence or relinquish its constitutional rights, he wrote. Harvard became the first university to outright reject the Trump administration's demands.

[Alan Garber]

Harvard said tonight that it was rejecting a list of demands from the administration.

[Camilla Nakserova]

On sweeping changes and would fight back against them.

[Alan Garber]

Will not be repressed. Today we can stand up and say no.

[Ilya Merritz]

In a show of solidarity, hundreds of university and college presidents have now signed onto a message that reads, in part, we speak with one voice against the unprecedented government overreach and political interference now.

[Alan Garber]

Endangering American higher education.

[Ilya Merritz]

One of the signatories is Harvard's president, Alan Garber. For months, everyone wondered what Harvard would do. Now Harvard President Alan Garber was speaking out. It's less that I chose to take on the fight than that. The fight came to me. Ryan says he felt an immense swelling of pride. Those are his words.

[Ryan Enos]

Like, this was the moment we'd been waiting for.

[Ilya Merritz]

For Camilla, the email was unsettling. No way there would not be consequences for her work.

[Camilla Nakserova]

It felt a little bit like a natural disaster. It felt very similar to reading, we've been flooded or there's an earthquake coming.

[Kit Parker]

And for Kit, I thought, this is gonna suck. I mean, I'm torn, right? Because I'm in the army. The President is my commander in chief. I also believe a lot of the last 10 years of changes at Harvard have been, for the most part, maladaptive to our scholarly mission. But I'm a committer. I committed to Harvard. I committed to the United States of America. It's my country. So, like, you know, you got two warring factions which you care deeply about. So I thought, this is gonna suck. And it has sucked. It's tough. It's like watching your parents fight, you know?

[Ilya Merritz]

The New York Times later reported that the fateful Friday ultimatum to Harvard may have been sent by accident.

[Kit Parker]

It looked like a drunk text, but.

[Ilya Merritz]

Even if it was that, Kit sees it as a tactical success.

[Kit Parker]

Look, Trump is a master negotiator. He didn't think Harvard was going to cave. He's smarter than that. Right, but did he shape the terrain for the negotiation? Oh, yeah. He gave a master class. He took an extreme position. He knows the courts are going to backstop him from anything illegal, and he put Harvard in a terrible negotiating position.

[Ilya Merritz]

A week after saying no to the government's demands, Harvard went further, suing the government to restore billions of dollars in funding. The Globe's Hilary Burns and Mike Damiano went to talk with Alan Garber in his office. So what is the Trump administration's campaign that it says is about combating anti Semitism?

[Camilla Nakserova]

What is it really about?

[Ilya Merritz]

It involves things like asking us to change who we hire, who we recruit as students to the university, and it includes the potential to actually monitor what we teach. It has impacts on so many different aspects of university life that it is hard to say it is only about antisemitism. And he didn't ask this, but I would also say say that attacking a research enterprise in the name of attacking antisemitism really gives rise to skepticism about what the goal is here. Meanwhile, Camilla's worst fears were coming to pass. Trump turned scientific research funding into an improvised weapon, specifically, billions of dollars of grants from the National Institutes of Health.

[Camilla Nakserova]

And so what happened is that they Just stopped.

[Ilya Merritz]

She explained how it had worked for years. Decades, actually.

[Camilla Nakserova]

The NIH pays bills every week. So every week we basically submit to them. Our administration submits to them what we're spending on the grants that we have at the nih, and they pay the bills on a very regular basis.

[Ilya Merritz]

Now the money had ceased to flow.

[Camilla Nakserova]

And it was unclear what would happen. Would we just have to fire people overnight? Would we have to stop doing everything, or would there be some sort of help?

[Ilya Merritz]

For weeks, they were in a kind of low information limbo. Eventually, Camilla felt forced to ask two people who had recently joined her team to leave. She got a year of bridge funding from the university, but it's not really.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Enough, just because I can't provide the security, job security that I usually aim to provide for everybody who comes to the lab, which is basically promise on my end that I will train them, I will work with them until they're ready to apply for a job, which for a postdoc would be a professorship somewhere. And so that can take five years or longer.

[Ilya Merritz]

Time horizons are long in the sciences. Not only had Camilla lost funding, she also lost the ability to plan.

[Ryan Enos]

How much pain can Harvard absorb Here?

[Ilya Merritz]

We don't know how much we can actually absorb, but what we do know is that we cannot compromise on basic principles like defense of our First Amendment rights. The government found more ways to make Harvard pay for its recalcitrants.

[Alan Garber]

They will no longer be allowed to participate in this student exchange visitor program, and that's up to 27% of their enrolled students.

[Ilya Merritz]

In May, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem moved to block Harvard's ability to enroll foreign students because of the university's pro terrorist conduct.

[Alan Garber]

This should be a warning to every other university to get your act together.

[Ilya Merritz]

The Departments of Energy, Defense, Agriculture, and NASA all got in on the action, canceling grants and programs, launching investigations. All of these departments became respondents in Harvard's lawsuit. And for a few weeks at least, Alan Garber became a kind of resistance hero. At commencement, he was loudly cheered, especially when he talked about foreign students being a part of the community. Members of the class of 2025 from down the street, across the country and around the world. Around the world, just as it should. So it's a beautiful Monday morning in Boston in July. I'm about to go inside the Moakley U.S. courthouse. And over the summer, Harvard's lawsuit to restore Camilla's funding and all of its research dollars moved ahead. In court, I watched Harvard's lawyers argue that the Trump administration had violated Its First Amendment rights, Title VI of the Civil Rights act and the Administrative Procedure Act. The professor's union was also a plaintiff in what became a combined lawsuit. Their lawyers sat together in a group. The table was full. On the other side of the courtroom, a single man sat at the government bench. Lonely over there, huh? The judge said to him by way of an opener. The whole room chuckled. Yeah, and he said something to the effect of the executive branch speaks or has one voice or something like that. Aiden Ryan is with the Globe. Like me, he was in court that day. When he rose to make the government's case. Michael Velcik, the Trump administration's lawyer, came in hot, emphatically, vehemently, like just those. Those adverbs came up quite a bit. Velcic is tall and slender and young and a Harvard college and Harvard Law graduate. His first words after being invited by the judge to speak were, harvard is a rich college. Belchick talked a lot about money. Harvard wants billions of dollars. He said ultimately this is a problem of economics. He said it was a contract dispute and it shouldn't be heard here in district court at all. It should be in federal claims court. Judge Allison Burrows was skeptical. She didn't understand his argument, but he was arguing it well and said that his Harvard education was serving him well. And that got a laugh. When I say hands off, you say Harvard.

[Kit Parker]

Hands off.

[Ilya Merritz]

Hands off Harvard. Hands off Harvard. Hands off Harvard. When court let out, there was a rally just outside by faculty, grad students and undergrads angry that potentially life saving research had been turned into a tool. They're cutting over $3 billion in vital scientific research. This case is about academic freedom. I was impressed with the speaker's passion, but not by their numbers. I thought of the tens of thousands of people just in Boston who work in biotech, medicine and other industries where government funding is critical. I counted only about 100 participants at this rally. Camilla was not one of them. She said after final word came from the NIH that their grants had been terminated. The scientists in her building did not spontaneously gather in the lobby to get organized. She herself is not inclined to this kind of activism.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I think scientists, they're a particular kind of animal. I think that we all probably locked our office doors and just started emailing. We didn't physically emerge.

[Ilya Merritz]

Camilla's pretty sure she lay down on her office couch at some point.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I certainly felt like I just want to hide under my blanket and this doesn't feel good and I don't want to see anyone because I knew My colleagues couldn't help me.

[Ilya Merritz]

Over the summer, a lot of things happened. President Trump signed a law allowing big college endowments like Harvard's to be taxed at a much higher rate. A number of college presidents resigned or were pressured to do so, including the leaders of Northwestern, the University of Virginia, George Mason University, and Columbia's interim president, the one who had tried and failed to appease the government back in March. And then there was this breaking overnight.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Columbia University is now the first school to reach a negotiated settlement with the Trump administration over claims of antisemitism.

[Ilya Merritz]

In July, after initially being rebuffed, Columbia did get a deal with with the government at a cost of over $200 million. The school's new president, former journalist Claire Shipman, defended the agreement on cnn.

[Alan Garber]

I think there are a couple of really important things about this agreement from our point of view. One, it doesn't cross the red lines that we laid out. It protects our academic integrity. That was, of course, essential to us. And two, it does reset our relationship with the federal government in terms of research funding. And that's the, you know, there's many headlines, about $400 million. This is really access to billions.

[Camilla Nakserova]

It was a lot more than that.

[Alan Garber]

Billions of dollars in future funding. And it's not just money for Columbia. I mean, this is about science. It's about curing cancer, cutting edge, boundary breaking science that actually benefits the country and humanity.

[Ilya Merritz]

Shipman was asked, why not do what Harvard did and join the fight?

[Alan Garber]

Look, we, and I've said this to our community openly. We, we kept all options at all times open.

[Ilya Merritz]

Shipman said we might have had some victories in court, but we worried we.

[Alan Garber]

Would have long term damage. For example, we could have faced the loss of any future relationship in the coming years with the federal government, and that would have effectively meant an end to the research mission we conduct as we know it.

[Ryan Enos]

It's understandable people would want to say, we just want to move on. That, of course, is absolutely the nature of extortion. Right?

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan sees what he calls the collective action problem.

[Ryan Enos]

When a mugger comes to you and says, give me your wallet. If you give them your wallet, rather than fighting back, they move on to the next person and take their wallet as well, and they just keep doing it until somebody fights back. The nature of extortion is that the extortionist extracts pain from you. And in many ways, these analogies about the mugger don't just quite capture it because the mugger is not trying to undo democracy. And as somebody who studies Politics and studies democracy. I believe 100% firmly. There is no doubt that that is what Donald Trump is trying to do.

[Ilya Merritz]

Then Kristen, my Globe colleague, tossed Ryan a curveball. Have you ever stood up to a bully before?

[Ryan Enos]

Have I ever stood up to a bully before? Well, I mean, when I was in elementary school, I spent a lot of time bullying people. So maybe I reflect on that a little bit. I was always the tall guy in the classroom.

[Ilya Merritz]

Ryan is tall and white and a man and a Harvard man at that. He says friends and family are concerned for him becoming that guy who's always criticizing the president. But Ryan sees it differently.

[Ryan Enos]

I have been very fortunate to have this position where I have the ability to be a little bigger than myself for a period and try to do what's right for society more generally.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit Parker has not had direct funding cuts, but he's watched them hit scientists all around him. Are you okay with that, like, as a means to an end?

[Kit Parker]

I haven't thought through an alternative strategy to apply pressure to universities to potentiate the change required to secure them on the geopolitical terrain.

[Ilya Merritz]

I feel like your answer is like, yes, it's ugly. But like, this is how you get to change.

[Kit Parker]

You're forcing me towards a yes answer and you're doing so successfully.

[Ilya Merritz]

I don't think I could force you to do anything.

[Kit Parker]

Yes. I just wish I hadn't come to this point. You know, I don't think it had to. And I like President Garber a lot. I think he's a good dude. I don't know how much freedom to operate he has right now given the corporate governance of Harvard.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kit's view that Harvard has a lefty groupthink problem is rooted in direct personal experience. More than a decade ago, he began teaching a class that presented his engineering students with a different kind of problem. Gang violence in the Massachusetts city of Springfield. Police there were, using techniques borrowed from the battlefields of Afghanistan.

[Alan Garber]

Counterinsurgency cops in one of the most crime ridden cities in New England.

[Ilya Merritz]

The program got results, and that got the attention of 60 Minutes.

[Alan Garber]

Last spring, Parker turned his junior engineering class into a counterinsurgency lab.

[Kit Parker]

Help me understand what kind of intelligence I need to collect when I'm in the field. Whether it's in the north end, I'm on Main street standing by the taco truck, or if I'm in Kandahar City, that's the kind of data I need.

[Ilya Merritz]

But a decade later, the national conversation on policing had changed. It was the time of George Floyd and black lives Matter. Kitt's course listing in the catalog caught the attention of some activists who started a petition to cancel the class. Here's how One Boston station, WGBH, covered the story in 2020. As one critic said on Twitter, police reform is not good for communities of color unless it is a means of to abolition. There was a case to be made that this kind of policing was good for the community. But right now, it's not a story Harvard plans to help. Tell Adam Riley, gba. To Kit, it was clear that social media noise, not the quality of the syllabus or the teaching, was what counted with Harvard leadership.

[Kit Parker]

I passed through another administrator. I said, make a statement about academic freedom. Make a statement in support of my students that are working on this stuff. Make a statement in support of this black and brown community in Springfield that's trying to fix itself. Maybe make a statement, support about me. And they wouldn't do it.

[Ilya Merritz]

The class had to be withdrawn after one of the instructors dropped out. The following year, Kit managed to resume teaching about policing in Springfield. But he says the whole experience has made him less ambitious, less creative in the classroom.

[Kit Parker]

After that. And then, you know, me being investigated by the university, and I was very open about it.

[Ilya Merritz]

You were investigated?

[Kit Parker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, just like, who has. If you're a faculty member and you haven't been investigated in the last 10 years at Harvard, what have you really done?

[Ilya Merritz]

His alleged offense, in his own words.

[Kit Parker]

I speak bluntly. I give blunt feedback, and that's not always received well by folks at Harvard. As a matter of fact, to be.

[Ilya Merritz]

Clear, we haven't seen the complaint, but we have independently confirmed the outlines of what Kit told us. The upshot was that Kit had to meet with a sensitivity coach. He had a pay reduction and a hiring freeze at his lab, which hurt. The penalty, he says was overseen by Claudine Gay, who was then a dean and went on to become Harvard's president, albeit briefly. Kit realized he was far from the only one.

[Kit Parker]

And then I had all these other faculty members come to me and say, hey, I'm being investigated, too. I'm like, what is this?

[Ilya Merritz]

This, too, contributed to Kit sense that something had gone badly awry with administrators driving a process that felt bureaucratic and far removed from the vibrant community of scholars that, in his mind, Harvard should be. Are there conservative faculty at Harvard?

[Kit Parker]

I have identified six.

[Ilya Merritz]

Okay.

[Kit Parker]

No, I mean, so. I mean, President Garber and I had a discussion about putting conservative voices on some of these committees. And so Allen asked me, can you put together A list of conservative faculty.

[Ilya Merritz]

He's working on it. We asked Harvard what Alan Garber plans to do with the names of conservative faculty. They did not respond to this or to other requests for comment. At some point in the summer, it became clear that Harvard was not simply fighting the administration in court. The two sides were also talking out of court. Shortly before students returned to campus, there was a flurry of news stories about how a settlement, perhaps similar to Columbia's, could be imminent.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I really hope there is a settlement, and I hope that you can put this in your podcast, because I think that the world doesn't hear enough about our side of the river. I feel like in the newspaper, I always read about. What do the students in Cambridge say?

[Ilya Merritz]

The medical school where Camilla's lab is is located in Boston proper, south of the Charles River. The main Harvard campus is a few miles north in Cambridge.

[Camilla Nakserova]

You know, there's a letter that's being organized, and, you know, faculty don't want to deal, et cetera. But I think over here at the medical school, I certainly don't want to speak for my colleagues, but I suspect I have a hard data on it. I suspect that feelings may be a little different. So I definitely want a deal. I think that. I think that what we do here is extremely valuable. And the reality is that without a deal, it's dead.

[Ilya Merritz]

In Camilla's lab, they analyze tissue donated by people with cancer, most of whom will not be alive for much longer. They're looking for evidence of how metastasis happens, and they've learned a lot.

[Camilla Nakserova]

We have come this far, and actually a lot of the funding that was terminated recently was enabling us to now look in more depth for the molecular basis of the liver metastatic trait. So the next step would be to throw the molecular biology kitchen sink at these cells that we now know are special and dangerous and really try to map out what about the cell's properties is different. Is it something about the DNA? Is it something about the rna?

[Ilya Merritz]

Camilla paid attention to Columbia's settlement. She says it was reasonable.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Nobody's dictating their faculty hiring. They, it seems like, retained most of their freedoms. They had to pay a very steep fine, which I think we will have to pay also. But if we can have a similar kind of deal, I think it's worth it, and I would like for there to be a deal.

[Ilya Merritz]

Even if that happens, she has been changed by this experience.

[Camilla Nakserova]

You know, like when you're a kid, everything that your parents say, that's the truth, and you believe and there are these amazing figures in your life and you don't question them. And so a part of growing up is to realize, oh, well, maybe they're not as perfect and maybe I can't trust them on absolutely everything. And so it feels a little bit like that too. It's like, oh, maybe it was a little bit naive to think that just because it's the government for sure, I can like absolutely 100% count on it.

[Ilya Merritz]

She is starting to think about the alternatives.

[Camilla Nakserova]

I don't know what I would do. Maybe I would have to go back to Europe after all. But Europe is right now flooded with all the people who are trying to go back. And then it would be kind of depressing to go back. I do love America, so I would probably look for a job in industry. Maybe I would become a stay at home mom. Who knows?

[Ilya Merritz]

In September, Harvard won a round in its fight with the government. A judge ordered the canceled NIH grant money to flow again. The judge wrote to upend the long standing collaborative relationship between the government and Harvard and its partner institutions without considering alternatives or articulating a connection to the problem of antisemitism. Sounds in arbitrariness and reeks of pretext. Days earlier, a story came to light from the past of the man who represented the Trump administration in court. As my Globe colleague Hilary Burns learned when he was still an undergraduate at Harvard, Michael Velczik turned in a paper for a Latin class written from the perspective of Adolf Hitler. The assignment was to write a piece in the voice of a controversial figure. Two sources the Globe spoke with found Velczik's paper disturbing. We learn that the instructor asked him to redo it. Separately, in an email to a friend about a year and a half later, Velczek wrote that Mein Kampf was his, quote, favorite book I've read this year. The email didn't mention the Holocaust or Hitler's role in the murder of 6 million Jews. Velczik didn't respond to our request for comment. The Department of Justice told us in a statement, Michael has handled some of the Civil Division's most important cases, defending the president's agenda in court with the utmost respect and professionalism. It is almost certain that the government will appeal the decision if there's no settlement. Harvard's litigation with the government could last for years.

[Kit Parker]

Question is, are they trying to wait out Trump in the administration? That's the issue right now. That's the big question.

[Ilya Merritz]

Kitt would have preferred for Alan Garber and Donald Trump to sit down and dialogue without lawyers. The same behavior that Ryan might call obeying in advance, Kit thinks is honestly not very impressive. Doesn't go nearly far enough.

[Kit Parker]

We changed the Middle East Studies Institute. We've changed the name of the DEI offices. No one's been fired. No one's been retrained. There's been no by name accountability for what's happened over the last 10 years. No one has proposed that staffers, administrators and faculty write statements of commitment to academic freedom. Hadn't happened. Hadn't happened. Yet. No one has had to write down, I will support academic freedom and ideological viewpoint diversity. You just have to write down your statement every year in a practice report about what you did with DEI this past year. But no one's making that kind of commitment.

[Ilya Merritz]

The engineering school no longer asks for DEI progress reporting.

[Kit Parker]

So, yeah, I'm still skeptical.

[Ilya Merritz]

American higher education remains in limbo. While Columbia and a few other schools have taken settlements, most have not. But no one besides Harvard has gone as far as to sue the government. And so all eyes remain on the nation's oldest and richest school and its leader, Alan Garber, a 70 year old man who has seldom made waves and who gives away very little when he speaks. Some even call him stoic.

[Kit Parker]

I'm sure he has emotions just like everybody else, but he's, he's just very rational.

[Ilya Merritz]

It just so happens that Harvard's fight is more than that for Alan Garber. It's personal. Putting him in direct conflict with a close colleague, someone he once mentored. Alan's also a human being and it's gotta be like, there's gotta be part of him that's gotta be struggling with this. In the coming weeks, we'll go deep on that perfect personal relationship and its central role in the battle for Harvard soul.

[Camilla Nakserova]

Here with me, Dr. J. Bhattacharya.

[Ilya Merritz]

Dr. B. I think you were probably on the show. I don't even know how many times. That makes Alan and Jay extremely special. They are not ideological about answers. They are extremely data driven and empirical about answers. But this struggle is not academic or even particularly rational. It is a bare knuckle fight for money, prestige and power.

[Kit Parker]

And I have seen a number of the compacts that have been circulated and we made a conscious decision not to sign them.

[Camilla Nakserova]

How did you get the invitation to Mar A Lago?

[Ilya Merritz]

I see a bit of cowardice in a lot of other universities who are like, thank God it's Harvard, not us. If we stay quiet, this will go away. The Harvard, Harvard Plan Season 2 is reported and written by me. Ilya Merritz. The series is produced by OnTheMedia's Molly Rosen. It's edited by Kristen Nelson, Head of Audio for the Boston Globe and Katya Rogers, on the Media's Executive Producer. Mixing and original music by Jared Paul. Tom Colligan is the fact checker. Thanks to the Boston Globes editor Nancy Barnes and to Ryan Huddle for episode art. And thanks to Jasmine Aguilera and Valentina Powers. I'll see you next week for Part two of the Harvard Plan. This is on the media.

[Alan Garber]

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