Jesse Lee Soffer and Tracy Spiridakos (Jay Halstead and Hailey Upton on Chicago P.D.)

Summary

One Chicago Podcast: Behind the Scenes with Jesse Lee Soffer and Tracy Spiridakos – Chicago P.D. Reunion (March 12, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This episode of the One Chicago Podcast, hosted by Brian Lucci—a former Chicago cop and now producer—gives fans a deep-dive into the much-anticipated return of Chicago P.D. fan-favorites Jesse Lee Soffer (Jay Halstead) and Tracy Spiridakos (Hailey Upton) in the latest crossover event. The trio reunite to talk shop, reflect on their emotional on-screen journeys, share behind-the-scenes mishaps, and revisit iconic moments from their time on the shows. The conversation is heartfelt, lighthearted, and often laugh-out-loud funny, offering fans new insight into the making of the One Chicago universe.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Big Reunion & Initial Reactions

• Fans Go Wild: Brian describes fan reactions to the return of Halstead and Upton as the “internet went bananas” [05:12]. Jesse and Tracy share their excitement about stepping back into their characters’ shoes.

  • Tracy: “I love that they brought me in with, like, in FBI. ... And then it ended up unraveling to this whole thing. So for me, I was really, really excited.” [05:30]
  • Jesse: “...the first stage direction ... all of a sudden, in the light of day, Mother Halstead ... that’s badass.” [06:02]

• Keeping the Return a Secret: Tracy tells a charming story of lying to a fan before the announcement and later returning to the coffee shop to come clean—which delighted them both [07:05–08:16].

Reigniting the Upton/Halstead Dynamic

• Complex Character Relationships: They discuss the challenge and fun of playing exes with unresolved feelings and chemistry, especially given the time apart and changed circumstances [08:16–09:39].

  • Jesse: “Halstead’s coming back with a different point of view ... He’s not saying it, but he’s like, I’m here for you. And Hailey’s, like, keeping him at arm’s length. ... It was really fun to play the history ... like a married couple, but with ... hostility, but also ... the attraction.” [08:30]

• Balancing Plot and Romance: The actors reflect on the writing tightrope—balancing intense crisis stakes across three episodes with emotional depth [09:47]. Tracy comments on how playing resentment toward Jesse was tough because they adore each other in real life [09:58].

Behind the Scenes: Cross-Show Action

• Stunt Coordination and Collaboration: Brian and the actors marvel at the logistical feat of merging three shows, especially action sequences like car explosions and tactical scenes under tight time and budget constraints [11:48–13:27].

• Explosion Scene: Jesse tells a thrilling story about a massive explosion and running into debris to keep the shot authentic, revealing the stunts' real dangers and adrenaline [17:43–19:22].

  • “The bomb goes off. The sky is filled with ash and fire and debris. And I go, if I don’t run right now, I’m a fricking wuss. So I took off, ... some cinder lands in my forehead—it’s burning me ... It was fricking terrifying, but it’s going to look awesome.” [17:43]

• Tactical Sequences: Tracy recalls the morgue chase scene on Fire as her personal favorite, enjoying her return to intensive tactical acting [19:24–20:11].

Sentimental & Defining Moments

• Tactical Authenticity: The actors credit Brian and their technical advisors for helping them look credible on camera. Tracy: “You are so, so good at making sure everything feels as real ... as it possibly can ... you pivot so well with that. ... You’re amazing.” [21:28–22:39]

• Favorite and Defining Scenes:

  • Tracy selects her character’s emotional confession to Platt for why she became a police officer as a career-defining moment [26:33].
    • “I became a cop because of you.” [26:33]
  • Jesse chooses Halstead’s obsession in “Rodiger”—a raw scene eating birthday cake outside a suspect’s house—as key to understanding Halstead’s character [43:34].
    • “That episode ... helped me understand who the guy was for the next few seasons...” [45:24]

On-Set Antics and Camaraderie

• Best Reunion: Both reminisce about reconnecting with various cast members:

  • Jesse loved acting again with Jason, Benny, and unexpectedly, briefly reuniting with Dermot Mulroney—who had previously played his dad in a movie [14:02–15:05].
  • Tracy describes how emotional seeing Jason again was and how it took a while to sink back into serious scenes because they could not stop hugging and smiling [15:05–15:57].

• Pranks and On-Set Fails: Jesse recalls kicking Patty in the groin during a prank gone wrong; Tracy details a prank where she convinced the head hair stylist she’d chopped her hair off [37:45–41:30].

Mutual Admiration

• Bragging on Each Other:
  • Jesse: “She’s a really, really smart actor that can look at text and story arc from ... a producer’s point of view ... and she’s like, got total access to the deepest emotions ... she can turn on the waterworks on a dime and just gut you in a scene.” [27:49]
  • Tracy: “You amplify every moment ... you want everybody to feel good in the scene ... you create an environment where everybody around you feels like they have a voice, that their voice matters ... the more you bring them up, the happier you feel, the more collaborative. It’s a really unique talent...” [29:36–31:47]

Behind the Camera: Jesse’s Directing

• Perspective Switch: Jesse reflects on how directing shaped his approach to acting, including learning to balance creative input as an actor with trusting the director’s vision [34:47–37:29].

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Memorable Quotes

• On Returning:
  “It was like we never left. It’s all muscle memory ... We’re hanging out on set and we’re goofing off and then we’re jumping into scenes ... It was awesome.” – Jesse [04:59]

• On Their Chemistry:
  “It’s like a married couple, but with, like, a lot of hostility but also, you know, the attraction.” – Jesse [08:30]

• On Stunt Work:
  “You move incredibly tactically ... like, we’ve talked about it before. You guys look so damn good that other cops are like, I’d go through a door with him.” – Brian [20:11]

• On Why They’re Good Scene Partners:
  “You create an environment where everybody around you feels like they have a voice, that their voice matters and they can contribute to the story.” – Tracy [29:36]

• On Upton’s Bond with Voight:
  “They had this relationship ... he helped her in so many ways and they just had this dynamic that I think Hailey looked up to him and loved him.” – Tracy [45:54]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:12–08:16]: The actors describe reading the script, their badass entrances, and keeping their return secret.
• [08:16–09:47]: Playing exes/partners and maintaining on-screen chemistry under new circumstances.
• [11:48–13:27]: Behind-the-scenes logistics—stunt coordination, especially car explosion scenes.
• [17:43–19:22]: Jesse describes the big explosion scene—authenticity and physical risk.
• [21:28–22:39]: Appreciation for tactical training and authenticity.
• [26:33]: Tracy shares her defining “I became a cop because of you” scene.
• [29:36–31:47]: Exchange of praise about each other’s talents, generosity, and approach as scene partners.
• [34:47–37:29]: Jesse discusses directing and how it changes his perception as an actor.
• [37:45–41:30]: Hilarious pranks and mishaps from set.

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Rapid Fire Segment Highlights ([45:49+])

• Tracy: Upton misses Voight as “a father figure she never had.”
• Jesse: Halstead misses Upton the most, “probably followed by Voight.”
• If in crisis, Tracy would choose Burgess (“She wouldn’t stop ... She’s a good cop”). Jesse would want Voight (“He’s gonna take care of business”).
• Both would throw Halstead in the interrogation room to ask why he stopped calling Upton.

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Closing Thoughts

The episode is a heartfelt celebration of the One Chicago universe, its cast’s family-like bonds, and their dedication to bringing authenticity and emotional depth to police drama. Between the laughter, pranks, and genuine admiration, listeners glimpse both the creative process and the personal connections that keep these shows beloved by fans.

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Not to be missed for any fan!

Transcript

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[Brian Lucci]

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[Tracy Spiradakos]

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[Brian Lucci]

I think I speak for every shy heart when I say we got a huge surprise in the crossover episodes. Nope, not the massive explosions, not the near death experiences. Not even that scene with Babyface, Foyt, Goodwin and Pascal, even though I thought it was killer. I'm talking about the mother of all returns. I'm talking about two of my favorite favorite Chicago PD characters of all times, Detective Haley Upton and Detective Jay Halstead. And it wasn't just the Upton Halstead characters coming back that got me excited. It was the two actors who play them. Two of my best friends, Tracy and Jesse. So this week we're gonna catch up with Tracy Sparadakos and Jesse Lee Soffer. We'll talk about the reunion of Upton and Halstead and all things crossover.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Halstead would never kiss and tell. Ah, she's like

[Brian Lucci]

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[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Hey, bro. Good to talk to you.

[Brian Lucci]

First of all, thank you so much for coming on and playing with me. I. I know that we just were with each other for too many hours over too many days, and I gotta say, it was an absolute blast.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

We had so much fun.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, it was great. It was great.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

It was really fun seeing everyone again. The reunion.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And, you know, it's like you slip right back into it. It's like. It's like we never left. It's all muscle memory. And we're hanging out on set and we're goofing off and then we're jumping into scenes and we're kicking the door and, you know, it's. It was awesome. We had a great time.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, here we go. When the fans found out that you two were returning to the crossover, they lost their minds. Okay, that's not even a question. I mean, Internet went bananas. Everybody's going nuts. How did it feel when you read the script and saw that your badass entrances, like, how you. How did you guys were going to show up on the episode? How did it feel?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I was really excited. I was really excited. I love that they brought me in with, like, in FBI. Like, I didn't know where, you know, I left and I was out in the world somewhere, didn't know what was going. So the fact that I got to see that they hadn't come back and I was working with FBI and I had this really cool moment and then the fact that it was linked to Halstead as well, that I was really looking out for him and trying to protect him, and then it ended up unraveling to this whole thing. So for me, I was really, really excited.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, it was pretty great. It was awesome to see it for the first time. I think at first, they didn't know where Horror Halstead was gonna pop back in in the arc of the story. Like, is it great here at the end of this act? Is it great here at the beginning of this act? But I remember reading the stage direction in that first draft. I think it changed eventually, but that first stage direction and the fans don't get to see this, but it was like, all of a sudden, in the light of day, Mother Halstead, you might have to beep that out. But I was like, that's badass.

[Brian Lucci]

Yeah, it said Mother Blinken Hallstead.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah.

[Brian Lucci]

So the amount of excitement, there was this incredible buzz. They kept it a secret a long time about you two. I had no idea. I knew there was going to be a crossover, but I never knew that. Like, come on, you two. I love you to death. Like, we're coming to be on the show. And then finally it came out, and it went bananas. Did you get excited as much to be like, oh, I'm going to see so and so and this person and that person?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Like, it was. I was. We both. When we first got to Chicago, the very first day that we got there, we. We were both, like, giddy, Just excited to see everyone. It was like the night before work, excited to see everyone, Excited to just be in Chicago, getting to come back, and you're just, like, falling right back into the routine of all our favor. You know, the gym we love with our trainers that we love, that we're really good friends with, like, all the things, you know, it was really, really exciting. I have to tell the story. There's this woman. I was going. I went to get coffee, and this woman saw me, and she was so sweet, and she recognized me. She goes, I'm so sorry to ask you this, but it was before it was announced. And she was like, I'm so sorry to bug you, but I just want to ask you, are you here? Cause you're back or are you just here? And I had to lie to her. So I was like, no, I'm just here. I'm just visiting everyone. And she was like, oh, darn. I got excited. I was like, sorry. And so we kind of made small talk and left. But I go back to that coffee shop all the time. So after it got announced, I went back and I saw her, and I was like, I had to lie to you. I'm so sorry.

[Commercial Announcer]

She.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I thought so. It was really sweet. And she got excited. We both got excited. She was like, I'm so happy to read it. Like, I can't wait to watch the episode. It was really, really sweet.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, so you're back in Chicago, your partners. How much fun was it for the upstance as exes to play the feelings you still have for each other and all that sexual tension?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

It was a lot of fun because with all the drama and the tension and Halstead was gone for so long and all this stuff, it was like Halstead's coming back with a different point of view than Haley. Haley went through this kind of abandonment that Halstead put her through that I wasn't there for. And so we had to find whatever this new dynamic was where, like, Halstead's kind of like, hey, I'm here. I still love you. You know, like, he's not saying it, but he's like, I'm here for you. And Haley's, like, keeping him at arm's length. And then we have all these great scenes with, like, kind of bickering, a little banter in the car chase, and. And so it was really fun to play the history of. It's like a married couple, but with, like, a lot of hostility, but also, you know, the attraction. You were trying to protect me, Hailey. There were so many times that I wanted to reach out.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

No, no, not here. Later.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And so I hope the fans liked it, but there's some really funny moments and stuff where they're going at it and going back and forth and kind of jawing at each other, and I think it comes from all that. So that was really great. That was fun to play.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

That was really fun. I hope it. We haven't gotten to see it yet, so we don't know what cut out and what stayed, but that's true. Hopefully it's still in there.

[Brian Lucci]

The reason why I ask you this is because the writer said it was very tricky to balance the big crisis plot and your relationship stuff over three episodes.

[Commercial Announcer]

Mm.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Interesting. I mean, keeping track of it throughout the story was our. You know, the writers did an amazing job, but I think threading where we were throughout the journey until we get to the very end, and there's, like, you know, some handful of moments that happen in pd, particularly that have Hailey kind of soften a little bit by the time we get to the end. So keeping track of it was kind of our job, which Was, I think, really fun to do because Jesse and I obviously enjoy each other, enjoy each other's company. So playing that angry, resentful, all that that comes with where that relationship was left was challenging in moments because it's like, I adore Jesse. So it was like I needed to, like, ignore him, not talk to him, not look at him while we were in scenes. Cause I was like, I'm still mad at you right now. I can't. You know. And then we yell cut. And we're, like, you know, teasing each other and.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And let me piggyback on that and say how tricky it was for me having not lived any of those storylines in the, like, year and a half after I left, where I guess they got divorced and he sent her, you know, and he was ghosting her, and he didn't talk to her. So I. I don't. I didn't even really watch those episodes. So now I'm having to live, like, a new timeline, a new universe where, like, I didn't want to talk to her. I didn't want to be with her. I was. I was finding myself all this stuff. And none of that is, like, what I had in my head is when he left, why he left, how he was feeling, all that stuff. So now I'm trying to play catch up and go, okay, so this is where the story went while I was gone. And I have to, like, assimilate my brain to kind of come from the same point of view as a view. You know what I mean? It was, like. It was a really tricky spot to be in, actually, sometimes.

[Brian Lucci]

And I know this, and I don't think many of the people like this podcast has a lot to do with, like, behind the scenes and, like, how we make it and all the incredible people that are involved in it to talk about the Chicago universe. And it's. It's insane to think that these three shows could come together. When they put it together, like, no one realizes there's like, 20 to 30 stunt people going back and forth. And JB, who's the directing producer for Chicago Med, they were out there when the car exploded. And do you guys want to talk a little bit about that scene where the guy was in the car? How much fun that was, or you'd rather breeze past that?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Are we. Well, I don't. Yeah. I mean, that was so tricky. Cause, you know, it's freezing cold outside. You're under the gun. Cause you got no time to get all these shots. You gotta get. You know, you're basically making, like, an action movie which takes a couple months to make, three months to make in eight days. So you got a car chase, you got a car flip, and then you got a car explosion, you know, and then you drag the guy outta the car. You could shoot that for two weeks. We're gonna shoot it in two hours.

[Brian Lucci]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And it just so happens that day there was, like, an issue with the pyrotechnics and. And we couldn't get the explosion in the same shot while we're, like, running away from the car. So you. Now you're wasting all this time trying to get the explosion to work. It still doesn't go off. So we have to shoot our portion separate, then they shoot the explosion separate, and hopefully they get to marry the two in the edit room. And it's going to look great, but, like, you have no idea that we made that day by the skin of our teeth, you know, and somehow it's going to end up on TV and it's going to look awesome. Haley, you know those things are going to blow any second, right? Here's the deal. You want answers, you get me out.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You're in no position to be making deals.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

What do you think you do? Told me his name.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

How'd he contact you?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Telegram. It's all encrypted.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You're not giving me anything I can use here, man.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You want more? Get me the hell out of here. All right, we actually got to move down. All right,

[Brian Lucci]

All right, here's a question for who were you most excited to get to act with again or who for the first time and whoever that is.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Why? There's two. There's two. Well, so I love acting with Jason. I think it's always something unique and it's always. It's a different experience every time. And we really get deep into scenes and try to figure out, you know, what the more intricate, like, character driven truth is of, like, what's going on between these two characters. So there's a great scene at the end of the movie that I had a lot of fun making with Jace.

[Brian Lucci]

Oh, God.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And I hope the fans really liked that scene. And then I was really happy to see Benny again because we did this one episode where I got to introduce his character back in season nine. And then that was it, you know, and, and. And even just to say hi to the character, like, oh, here's this guy that's been here since I left. There's something really cool about that for me coming back. And then also Dermot. Dermot Mulroney from Fire. He played my dad in a movie, like, 20 years ago. And so I got to be like, hey, dude. And he's like, oh, my God, it's you. Like, you know, 20 years later, and now you're. There's something special about that, too. So I had a lot of fun all across the board.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Oh, gosh. I'm having a hard time picking just one person. I remember with Jason, I was so excited to see Jason. And he And I. He was one of the first people I got to work with on the crossover. Cause we picked up a scene, it was on fire. So it was like, I hadn't worked with anyone on pd, and I think it was like, second day of fire. First day of fire, maybe. And I saw Jason, and he. And I got so emotional when we saw each other that both of us welled up, that we hugged each other, and we were both, like, really, really emotional. And then Reza was like, okay, so let's do the scene. And me and Jason kept going up to each other, like when it introduces us and we're smiling. And Reza would be like, okay, so cut. Yeah, it's really, really dire times. There's 188 passengers.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

That's like, you know, this dead people in.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

High stakes, really serious, high stakes.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

And we smile.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

We were like, ronnie, okay, yeah, cut. Let's go. High stakes, high stakes. Action. Hi, Jace. Just a big hug again. He's like, fuck. Like, it took us so long to drop into character again because we were so excited to see each other that it took us a bit to, like, get into the serious of it. More me for. Cause it was. I think I was up first. More me than Jace. Like, we had our moment, but I just kept looking at him being like, I miss you. So that was really nice. And then getting to work with Sarah was wonderful. Sarah Ramos. I got to work with her a bunch. And so I just really enjoyed her a lot. She's really funny. Really, really sweet. But on top of all of that, obviously, like, reunited with everyone was wonderful.

[Brian Lucci]

Yeah.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

On top of all of that, I haven't gotten to work with Jess since he left.

[Brian Lucci]

Oh, wow. He didn't say you.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I know what it's like.

[Commercial Announcer]

Jerk.

[Brian Lucci]

You didn't mention it.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I love how you gotta point that out. I didn't. You know, you gotta.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Of course. We all know you gotta.

[Brian Lucci]

You mentioned Jason, Benny, everybody else. You didn't mention her.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

But, you know, like, we had this whole. We did really have this whole story. We had a whole season without him. And, you know, my character Went through all these emotional things and, you know, all of it, and it was all this pent up whatever that she had, anger and everything. And then getting to work with him and having some resolution to that and having a way to. For the character to put that aside, but also getting to play with Jess again was really fun.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, that was special. We're really grateful that we got to do that.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, here you go. For both of you. What was the most badass or favorite scene to shoot for the crossover and why?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Oh, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that huge explosion that goes off that Haley's in, you know, Halstead's kind of like surveilling the corner, and he's like, don't go in there. We shouldn't be kicking this door. This guy deals with explosives. Bad idea. And Hayley goes in. And then we blew up a whole block for a second. Like, I don't know how we do that. We get a permit. We kind of put up signs like, hey, we're gonna be filming here in your neighborhood. And then all of a sudden, it's 4:00 in the afternoon, and boom, we blow up a building and there's people out, like, probably going, what the shit is going on? Anyway, I digress. So we film all the coverage of me standing there and waiting, and then all of a sudden, we do the explosion, and we have no idea how big it's gonna be. It's fricking massive. There's debris and flames in the air. And our stunt guy, Tom Lowell, was like, listen, if you don't feel safe, do not move. There's gonna be a lot of debris in the air. Don't run in there. Let it clear and then run in. And I was like, you got it. But the cameras are rolling and the bomb goes off. The sky is filled with ash and fire and debris. And I go, if I don't run right now, I'm a fricking wuss. So I took off, and sure enough, I'm batting stuff out of my face. Some. Some cinder lands in my forehead. It's burning me. You can see me, like, wipe it off. And then I run into the building. It was fricking terrifying, but it's going to look awesome. So that was definitely. That's a badass scene. I think that's going to look so cool.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah, that did look cool. The clip that I watched looked really, really cool. Yeah, you had to run in there. It looked awesome. Yeah, you had to go, yeah, yeah,

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

you can't burn that tape.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You can't burn that tape.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You can't burn that tape. You got to go.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You had to do it.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You better get on your horse and go.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah, I agree. I agree with your. Yeah, I think for me, I really liked the morgue stuff that we got to shoot on fire with Reza. I was doing a lot of looking for the

[Brian Lucci]

bad guy.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah. And so he's like running through. I had to crawl through where the bodies were and chasing him through the. And that was a really fun sequence. And it was also just really fun to get to do. That was kind of my reintroduction to all the tactical stuff that we used to do on pd. All the time that I've stepped away from since I left the show. I haven't done much of that. So it was like, really fun to get to get into that. So that was a really, really. Yeah, funny. That was my fun sequence.

[Brian Lucci]

To see you guys back in tactical mode, you have to see the way you move and the way you clear effortlessly. You know what I mean? Like, you move incredibly tactically. Well, I don't care. I always get other coppers from across across the country that will send me stuff and say, man, these guys are. Are trained so well.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Best compliment.

[Brian Lucci]

Yeah. And you bring it to a certain point. But then I like, you go above and beyond and get more training, you know, like, we. We've talked about it before. You guys look so damn good that other cops are like, I'd go through a door with him.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Drop that weapon.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Move. Get out of the way. Get out of the way. Stop. Whoa.

[Brian Lucci]

Cam.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Go. Stop. You gotta go. Haley, you got a head wound. I'm not going anymore.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Jake, he's getting away.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You can't stop.

[Brian Lucci]

Stop.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

That's one of my favorite stories. Like, one of the best accolades is Chuck Barango. God rest him. Yeah.

[Brian Lucci]

God rest his soul.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

God rest his soul. He was a SWAT officer that trained us early on on the show with Luch, and he was like, jess, you move better than some of the guys I work with. Like, I'd kick a door. I'd hit a door with you any day. And I was like, oh, my God, that's like. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. He was a great guy for me.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I give you all that credit. While we may fine tune certain parts of it, but like, you are. You are the person that keeps us honest. That make you're. I mean, I always tell stories of you hiding. You'd be hiding behind that. Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to swear. Can we bleep out my swears, hiding behind the thing, and you'll pop out, be like, boom, you're dead. And you're like. And not just lightly, like, boom, you're dead, Ben.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You're dead. Catch a corner. Idiot. Idiot.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Fatal funnel. Fatal funnel.

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Jesus.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Okay, so you're. But like, as much as you're crazy. No, I'm just kidding. In the best way I'll take it. It's like you are so, so good at making sure everything feels as real and as honest as it possibly can and recognizing the fact that, yeah, we're making a TV show and there's some. Sometimes we have to do certain things, but you pivot so well with that. And so. So to me, I credit you completely for that. And my coworkers, like, you know, Jesse and Patty definitely worked with me when I first got on the show to like, help fine tune some of that as well. But I give you all of that credit for all of us. You're amazing.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

That goes without saying for me too.

[Brian Lucci]

Thank you. Thank you so much. One of the hardest collaborations and the scenes that I'm gonna say. And then I'm gonna ask you guys, what you think was the takedown scene with Severai. Remember the takedown scene at the end?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah.

[Brian Lucci]

So. So for the people out there who doesn't know, I gave several the nickname Severa because he's such a gorgeous bastard that anytime he passes in a breezeway, we all whisper Severa. Can you tell us a little bit about setting that up with Chad and how crazy that was at the end where you had. We had to service, like, three different shows.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah, I mean, I think it was like, we just. And Chad, like, is so wonderful at, like, wanting to make sure that everybody feels good about it. He's honoring what the writers wrote and making sure that he's honoring the other characters on the other shows. Like, really wanting to keep it as close to the script as he can while also allowing us as actors to make it feel natural in that moment. And so, yeah, there's so many of us that we had to be inching closer to find Mar.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

We gotta move in with a light footprint. If Mar's here, we don't want him.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

But then, you know, Sevaride and Kidd are behind us clearing people out.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Sevride, you and Kid take lead on evac. People start to panic.

[Brian Lucci]

Copy that.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

We'll move quiet. Yeah, move everyone out.

[Brian Lucci]

Back to front.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

We had to move forward and then orchestrate how me and Sevride are gonna tackle Mar and tackle him but then also, you know, Jason's there. Why doesn't Jason do anything? Why doesn't Jason take the shot?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

There's other cops in the room. He's got a gun.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

What's Halstead doing? And how do we service everybody and make sure that everybody looks good in the story and service what the writers have written? And I think it was just a lot of really stunt. Tom Lowe, who's amazing, and the rest of the stunt team just really worked it out. And we played with it so much to try to find what angle would work for how to sell the tackle and then the grenade rollout and then Halston jumping on it. Like, we practiced it and worked on it. I don't know, for what, an hour more that day?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

An hour and a half? Yeah, but a lot of collaboration, a lot of, like, talking it out. How do I, you know, how does each piece of the puzzle and each piece of the pie kind of fit to tell the whole story and keep it grounded, but also make sure that all your heroes stay heroes and nobody gets punked, you know, so to speak. I told you to go back inside.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Brian Lucci]

I remember. You let them burn.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You let them all burn.

[Brian Lucci]

Now you and everyone here.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Here is gonna know what that feels like. You're all gonna know what it feels like to burn from the inside.

[Brian Lucci]

Comet. No.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Jay, you good? I'm good.

[Brian Lucci]

I just loved it. Your 200 plus episodes, how many did you do, Jess, on.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

On PD90 or something like that. Between fire and Med, all in is like 2, 240 or something.

[Brian Lucci]

You know, you get hit with, like, scenes that stay with you Trace. One of the scenes that hit me that when I was. When I was going to be interviewing Platt about you, was when you went in and told her why you became a police officer. And I don't know if you remember that scene. It was so well written. And I looked at it, and I was supposed to be, like, looking at stuff Platt's been doing, and I sat there and I cried and. And I'm like, I miss her. It was. It was so damn good.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You don't remember me, do you? I try my best, but I can't remember every copper that comes through here. Don't take it personally, Detective Sergeant. I've never met you as a cop, but I did meet you as a little girl. I spent the whole night at your desk until you caught the guy. I was so scared through all that. Worried if my dad was gonna make it. But you made me feel safe. I became a cop because of You? Yeah, I was gonna say no. A girlfriend of mine is watching the series from the beginning, from when, you know, and she was saying when she got to that part where she met. Where my character says that to Platt, she just sent me a screenshot of it with, like, the eyes welled up emojis. She's like, I became a cop cause of you. That was so sweet. That was a really beautiful scene. It was fun.

[Brian Lucci]

And your dad got beat, and this is the reason. And you stayed with me. It was just like, these are the moments, like, we could. You could go back on and think. It's not all about running and gunning is, I guess, what I'm getting at. It's about, like, how. How it tore us apart. Like, okay, it's time to brag on each other what makes the other such a good actor and what are some specifically especially good thing that that person does.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I'll start. I can't say enough about how great Tracy is. She's a really, really smart actor that can look at text and story arc from, like, a producer's point of view and knows how to not only perform elements in an arc to get the biggest payoff for the viewer, but also to keep it the most grounded and truthful for the character. But also she can adjust story. She's so smart that she can call a writer and go, you know what's gonna help me connect to this even more is if we start this thread even earlier. What if in this scene, we take this line and we put it in here? Because then I start thinking about it earlier, and then the payoff will be even heavier here. And she's right. And she has this really clear kind of macro vision for how her character can fit into a script and how to really hit the audience with, like, the heaviest emotional payoff. And then on top of that, she's gorgeous, and she's, like, got total access to the deepest emotions. So if you want this girl to get, like, to be in utter grief or dismay or despair, it's like she can turn on the waterworks on a dime and just gut you in a scene, and so there's, like, nothing she can't do.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Oh, that's so nice. That's so nice.

[Brian Lucci]

Don't you wish you would have went first?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I do wish I went first.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah. I knew what I was doing. Okay.

[Brian Lucci]

It's your coverage. It's your coverage.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I mean, honestly, it's easy to say good things about Jess. He's, I think, one of my. Well, one of my favorite things I love about Jess is you can always see him thinking. No matter what's going on, he's always thinking in character. He's constantly floating a character thought. And I think you're incredibly talented. You're also an incredibly generous actor. It's what Benny was saying too, where, like, you want everybody to feel good in the scene. You want to. You amplify every moment that that's there, and there's no moments that are not truthful. You're always thinking character thoughts. You're always keeping your brain thinking in character thoughts. It's something that I always look at you whenever we're working together or if I watch you doing anything, and I'm like, look at him. He's still in character thought. I'm like, I'll be thinking about food most of the time, but Jesse's. You're always keeping that alive. And it's amazing. And I think one of the other things that I love is Jesse really helped me find my voice as a. When I first started on the show, I was really kind of. I felt like I didn't really. Everybody else knew more than me and Jesse and Jason, actually. Jason as well. But Jess, I would have an idea, and Jess would be like, what's your idea? What are you thinking? And then would encourage it. He encourages everybody around them, around him, to have their thoughts and collaborate and contribute to everything together. So not only are you an incredibly talented actor that knows exactly where your character's coming from, honoring everything that's on the page, keeping it as authentic as you do, but then on top of that, you create an environment where everybody around you feels like they have a voice, that their voice matters and they can contribute to the story. And the more that they. The more that they feel. I don't know, what's the word I'm looking for? The more you bring them up, the happier you feel, the more collaborative. It's a really unique talent that not a lot of actors share, and I think that you exude that.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

So, yeah, that's really sweet.

[Brian Lucci]

Wow, that's beautiful.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

That means a lot.

[Brian Lucci]

Look, you should write Hallmarks. I love it just like that. We gotta take a quick break, but when we come back, more behind the scenes awesomeness from Tracy Spiradakos and Jesse Lee Soffer.

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[Brian Lucci]

And we're back on the one Chicago podcast, talking with two of my absolute favorites, Jesse and Tracy, AKA Chicago PD Detectives Upton and Halstead. We're gonna switch a little gear here, Jess, you came back to PD to direct and I was happy to say I was in the dummy chair sitting right next to you for three episodes. Deadlock, inventory and open wounds. Coming back as a director and having that opportunity, I know it was I Had some of the greatest days with you. We'd worked 12, 14 hours. We were beating each other up, making fun of each other. How has directing changed your approach to acting now? Did it impact you on how you acted in the crossover?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

That's really. That's an interesting question. Yeah. Not in the crossover. A little bit. Yeah. It's tricky. You know, when you're on the show and you've been on a show for so long, you know what works and, you know, maybe how to carve out a more interesting version of the scene than, you know, what's. Just the words and the punctuation. You're looking at, like, the white space and what's going on in the white space and trying to make the block enhance the blocking and what's the. You know, what's the deeper version of the scene? And so you. And when you're on a show for so long, you start thinking about that stuff. And I was thinking about it all the time, and we'd get on set and. And Jason and I and Tracy and everybody, we'd be trying to figure out, all right, how do we help this director who's here? Let's give them the best scene that we can make based on what's on the page right here. And I got to really dive into that in the directing and kind of take control and be responsible for all that and have those ideas and put forward your idea of how the episode should look. And then it was tricky coming back to shut that off and just go, okay, Chad. You know, Chad Saxton, you're the boss. I'm just Halsted, and I just say, yes, and where do you want me? What do you want me to do? And it was nice because I got to just put all my trust in him and go. He's got my best interest in mind and in heart. He's not gonna make Halstead look like a dummy or, you know, or anything. So I got to, like, relax and kind of turn all that off, which was a real treat.

[Brian Lucci]

No, one of the compliments I got was from your episode where Gwen Segan, our showrunner, said we're gonna have to do it the way Jesse did it. Like, you had these action scenes that we were doing. No, she said that. She said it felt so good. Please, please follow it the way that it was. It was just nice.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Brian Lucci]

So just be proud of that directing that you did on our show. I mean, three episodes and murdered.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

All right, thanks, bro.

[Brian Lucci]

What was the funniest thing that happened to you? While working on set of Chicago pd. Trace, it's your turn.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Funniest.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I know mine instantly.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Do you. You go first then.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Do you need. Do you need a minute?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I need a minute.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I need. I kicked Patty in the nuts. I blasted Patty in the nuts as hard as I could. I saw that video by accident because we're so dumb that we thought the little. The little stunt strap, because he's supposed to get kicked in the nuts in a scene. And so he's got this strap on that like, that makes you like. You have like a saddle in your pants that, like, you. No one can, like, kick past it and. But you gotta kick up, you know? Cause it kinda. It's like a U shaped thing in the seat of your pants. You gotta kick up at it. And in the scene, a prostitute kicks him in the nuts and he goes down. And so he's got this thing on. He's like, dude, check it out. Like, this is awesome. You know, like, we're about to shoot this scene and we're filming, and he's like, let's test it, you know, or whatever. We're like, okay, I'll do like a crane kick, like Karate Kid and I'll kick you. And I kicked him straight on, not up, straight on, as hard as I could. And it made like a pop. Like when you hear like someone's Achilles go out like a football player, like, bang. And he just goes, waha. Goes down. And he's just writhing on the ground. And he's quiet for a second. He goes, it didn't work. And then I felt so bad. I laid down next to him and I'm screaming like, no, no. And it was awful. He ended up being okay, but, God, that was a dumb thing we did. Oh, God, there's a video of that somewhere. I think that was on Instagram.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

There's 100% a video. Cause I've seen the video and this was before my time. I love playing the prank. Like, practical jokes. I mean, we got Dorota. I got Doroda pretty good.

[Brian Lucci]

Dorode's our hair lady.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Dorote is the head of the hair department. I know who I'm playing the prank on. Go right to the top. But I set the prank up where I told her that I accidentally got gum in my hair, but it's an extra. And I was like, do you have any extensions? And she's like, yeah, I think it's.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

But wait, pause. Cause what's funny for people that don't know, like, we are on such a Tight schedule.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yes.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You have 16 minutes to get your hair done. You have nine minutes to get your makeup done. And then you're on set, you're rehearsing, then you're shooting.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

If you have an issue with your hair or makeup, that could shut down production for 30 minutes. It's costing them tens of thousand thousands of dollars. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. And it's on the head of the hair department. So this is terrifying.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then one of the other girls in the hair department helped me put on a wig where the hair was really, like, above my.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Horrible.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Like, my hair was down at the time. It was, like, to my elbow, like, it was long. And I had the wig that was to my collarbone. And I put a baseball hat on so she wouldn't be able to really tell that it was a wig. And I walked into the hair department, and somebody was. I think Amy was recording, and I was like, jorda, do you think that we could put in all the. All the hair extensions and it'll. It'll fix it.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Cause you told her you cut it out, right?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I told her I had to cut it out. And it got messy, and so I just evened it out. And before I knew it, it was this short. She was. She was paralyzed. She just kept staring at me and saying, oh, shit. Repeatedly. She just stared at me, oh, shit, oh, shit. And I was trying to make it. I'm trying to go as long as I can go. So I was like, oh, shit.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Cause you're in the middle of an episode. And, like, so she's thinking, continuity wise, like, you have to look the same. Yeah.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Like, we don't have time to get a wig. I was going in to work that. So she was, like, freaking out, and I'm like, you don't think we can do anything? You don't think. And I think the whole thing lasted, like, a minute and a half. And finally she came up to me and pulled my hat off and noticed that it was a wig. And her heart came back to beating, and she, like, to this day, she's like, I can't believe. Believe you did that to me. So that was pretty fun for me.

[Brian Lucci]

I liked it, too. All right, Tracy, looking back over all your time on Chicago pd, what would you say is the scene that defines who Haley Upton is as a character?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Oh, gosh, that's a hard question, because it's been a minute since I've been gone, and so much happened in that last. Where my character just took a big turn after Halstead Left and everything that she was going through. I can say that one of my favorite episodes to shoot was the episode where we go into the Chicago River.

[Brian Lucci]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I think it's called Stillwater and that episode. So I don't think that. I don't know that that answers the question in that it was the episode that defines my character. Because there's so many different moments that affected Hailey throughout the series that changed her throughout the show. So I don't know that there's one, but I think that episode for me really stood out as a really amazing episode to shoot. I thought it was so well written. Gwen just killed it with the reveal at the end of the episode. We also got to film.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

We got to go to Las Vegas.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Gwen.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yes.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

And me and Chad had so much fun filming that. And like, it was just an all around. I think it was one of my very favorite episodes that I've ever shot on anything I've ever done. I thought I could find something about him in here, but. And the team. No, nothing. No leads. He's one step ahead and he's gonna get away because I saved him. Well, what were you supposed to do, Let him die? Yeah. I should have saved her instead.

[Brian Lucci]

Same to you. Looking back over all the time with Chicago pd, what would you say is a scene that defines who Jay Halstead is as a character?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

It's tough because there's like, different. You know, I was there so long. I was there for like through, you know, the beginning of season 10. It was like 10 seasons that it changes. I think you. You redefine it. Cause if you're not, you know, you gotta be growing, evolving. You gotta be evolving. And I'd say early on that I think it was the third episode Rodiger, you know, there was Lonnie Radiger. There was this thing from Halstead's past that this kid was abused and then murdered. And the guy kind of got off and Halstead was stalking him. Halstead's like, oh, yeah, that was like

[Brian Lucci]

the first season, I thought.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

So stubborn and, and, and hostile that he couldn't let this thing go. That he's like stalking this guy that he knows killed this kid. And, and that. That episode where. Where Halstead's eating the piece of cake outside the guy's house and the guy comes out and it's the kid's birthday and he says, you know, he would have been this old today. Halstead intelligence. This is harassment. Just eating some birthday cake today would have been a birthday. Arrest him, get him out of Here. Sorry. Sorry, pal. Oh, you dirty bastard. Stick together you always have. Seven years ago today. Lonnie. Get out of here. Seven years, you would have been 15. I'm gonna call my lawyer. I'm getting a restraining order. I'm gonna give you a reason to need one one day. You and your sick ass son. Oh, I didn't know what I was gonna do with the scene. I knew the. I knew the dialogue and I knew the lines and we rehearsed it and whatever came out was like, okay, let's go in Jesse's direction first, cuz he's ready to go. And then we shot fireworks. And I was like. It was so visceral and hot that that helped me understand who the guy was for the next few seasons, you know, that informed so much for me.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Wow, Jesse really knows how to answer the question as opposed to me.

[Brian Lucci]

Yes, he does.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Continue.

[Brian Lucci]

He kills it.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Vivian should always go first.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, you ready for a little game called Rapid Fire? Uh, oh. Or because you two played on all three shows, we're going to call it it Rapid Fire. PD and Med.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Oh, no.

[Brian Lucci]

Now, the rules are simple. First thing that comes to your mind, I'm looking for spontaneous. So Tracy, you're first.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Oh, shit.

[Brian Lucci]

Which character does Upton miss hanging out with for PD most and why?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I think Voight. They had as much as Halstead. Obviously there's like the relationship there was, but I think Voight was like a father figure that she never had and her dad was just not really there for her. And there was so much stuff there that Voight for her became. They had this relationship that was. I don't know, he helped her in so many ways and they just had this dynamic that I think Hailey looked up to him and loved him. And so I think that that's something that I would say she would miss. And the reunion that we get to see of them coming back together is a little bit of that.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, Jesse, now you ready?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yep.

[Brian Lucci]

Which character does Halstead miss most from Petey. And why.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

So that's easy. Halstead loves. Halstead loves Upton. And he obviously missed her the most. Probably followed by Voight for similar reasons. You know, one is hotter than the other. The kinship. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Voight's pretty hot.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah, he is pretty hot.

[Brian Lucci]

If you were in a crisis and needed an officer on the case, which character from Chicago PD would you most want to show up to help you? And why Trace?

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You know, I think Burgess would be who I would want on the case, cuz Burgess wouldn't She wouldn't stop. She would do her. Wouldn't sleep. Do her darndest to get to the bottom of it, and she would do it all in, like, the right way, by the like, she would. You know, she's. She's a good cop. She's a detective now, and I think Burgess would be the person I would want on the case.

[Brian Lucci]

Jess, if you were in a crisis and needed an officer in the case, which character from Chicago PD would you most want to show up and why?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I think it's, for me, it's easy. I think it would be Voight. As simple as that.

[Brian Lucci]

You want Voight still, huh?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, I mean, Voight, you know, listen, he's probably gonna break a bunch of rules. He might hurt some people. He's gonna take care of business.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, if you could throw anyone in the interrogation room from any of the shows and make them answer any question, who would it be, and what would that question be? Any of the three shows.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Oh, gosh, these are hard.

[Brian Lucci]

Hey, sorry. This is. This is how it goes. Welcome to Lucci's podcast.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I think I would have to pick Halstead and ask him why he stopped. Like, what happened? We don't really answer that question in the crossover. Why'd you stop calling me, man?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You know, what were you going through? You know? Yeah.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

You know what's funny? I want to know, too, where you were.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

You would put Halston in the box, too.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, I want to know. Dude, what's going on? Where were you? What were you up to? Was it clandestine? What were you doing down in South America? Yeah, I want to know what was so top secret, homie.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I want to know.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Yeah, you know, so me now.

[Brian Lucci]

Aren't you. Aren't you happy I asked that stupid question?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Well, I'm happy she went first. I'm happy she went first. That's what I'm happy about. Yeah, I'm sorry that I lost you.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I'm sorry too. What time is your flight?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I don't care.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Want to get a drink?

[Brian Lucci]

How do you think that drink went that the two of you got at the end of the crossover?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Halstead would never kiss and tell, would he?

[Brian Lucci]

Do other shit?

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

I think.

[Brian Lucci]

Trace, come on.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I think. I don't know that they. I don't know that Haley's that quick to. To forget everything. I think she was really hurt by everything that happened. I think they had several drinks in my.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

But let's leave it up to the fans interpretation.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

I think that's my interpretation. I think they had several drinks and hashed things out. But I don't think that Haley, I think Haley at the end of it was like, all right, well, I'm good. I think it opened the door to further conversations, but I don't think that it opened the door wide open. She's so closed off and he was the only person that she had really let in. And so I think it's gonna take her a while before she fully, you know, lets him back.

[Brian Lucci]

Bullshit. I'm just gonna say, I think you guys wrapped your arms around each other, made love to each other. I could say my take, too. It ended ambiguous. That's a word that Jesse taught me. So it's. I'm allowed to end the movie any way that I want.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

It's true.

[Brian Lucci]

All right, this is what you call the end of this podcast. And I gotta say, once again, I'm tickled pink. No, you gotta say, this was a lot of fun. I mean, all around the crossover, coming down to visit, hanging out, chilling, busting chops. I hope we have another crossover. Thank you very much for coming on.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Thanks, bro.

[Tracy Spiradakos]

Thanks, Lucy for having us.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

This is awesome.

[Brian Lucci]

No matter how that drink went, I'm so glad Tracy and Jesse Lee came home to the One Chicago family crossover. And I'm over the moon that they sat down for this little chit chat. To them and to you, I say cheers and make sure you check out our all new One Chicago shows every Wednesday night. See you guys real soon. One Chicago is airs on Wednesday night at 8, 7 Central on NBC and you could stream it on Peacock. The One Chicago podcast is a production of Wolf Entertainment and USG Audio. The series is hosted by me, Brian Lucci. It's executive produced by Dick Wolf, Elliot Wolf and Steven Michael at Wolf Entertainment, Josh Block at USG Audio and John Yell Kastner at Spoke Media. Our shown our runner is Derek John. Our producer is Maggie Dubrizzi and our audio producer is Jason Mark. Video production by Bo Delmore. Coordinating production by Tess Ryan. Our production assistant is Montserrat Rodriguez with engineering and mix by Evan Arnett and original music by John o'.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Hara.

[Brian Lucci]

This series is produced by Spoke Media and distributed by Realm. Production support for USG Audio by Josh Lalonghi. I'm Brian Luch. Thanks for listening and we'll see you all soon.

[Jesse Lee Soffer]

Cut.

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