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Brian Lucci
Hey, I'm brian lucci and this is the official one chicago podcast. Okay, you've been listening to this podcast for a while now, so you know that I'm a Chicago Mets super fan. Well, there's one character who intimidates the hell out of me, even though I secretly wish I could be more like her. The tough as nails lady who rocked into the ED last season and took it by storm. That's right, you guessed it. I'm talking about Dr. Caitlin Lennox.
Sarah Ramos
I'm here for a reason and it's not to keep the status quo.
Brian Lucci
I know I probably can't be Dr. Lennox when I grow up, but I learned a thing or two from the incredible actor who plays her, Sarah Ramos. She told me what she loves about Chicago Met, how she thinks about her role, and how to be stone cold awesome like Lennox. Something that came pretty naturally to her as an actress.
Sarah Ramos
You know, on other jobs, I've been often told, you know, to be nicer. And on this show, sometimes I'll be like, oh, that's too much. They'll be like, no, no, like get pissed. And it's really freeing.
Brian Lucci
First we gotta take a quick break, but when we come back, we get into all that and more with Sarah Ramos. So don't go anywhere.
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Brian Lucci
I like to start out like with like what, when, how and where did you start out being a. Being an actress?
Sarah Ramos
Oh my gosh.
Brian Lucci
Or actor.
Sarah Ramos
I'm sorry, that's a long story. I like to say that my origin story started when I was 10 years old on a Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen cruise. I also like to say I was raised by pop culture. I was obsessed with pop culture, specifically the Olsen twins. I'm from Orange county and I watched their straight to VHS movies and there was an advertisement in it. You can sail with the stars and go go on a cruise to the Bahamas and I asked my parents if we could go and they agreed and I went on this cruise and met the twins in the flesh and realized that my life would never be the same and I had to start acting and asked my parents if I could start acting. They said yes. They were a little overly accommodating and I started acting right after that and was on a soon cast on an NBC show.
Brian Lucci
What was that show?
Sarah Ramos
That show was called American Dreams. It was a period show set in the 60s about American bandstand and I played like the precocious daughter to our younger sister to Brittany Snow.
Brian Lucci
Holy cow, you've been rocking and rolling for a long time.
Sarah Ramos
Oh yeah.
Brian Lucci
Since 10 years old.
Sarah Ramos
Yep.
Brian Lucci
All right. You've been part of the wolf world and the wider NBCU family for a long time. Do you remember about your appearance on law and season 17?
Sarah Ramos
Absolutely. Of course I remember. Who doesn't remember being on Law and Order? I think I was 15 years old. Very exciting. And I was with Jeffrey Donovan, who played my dad. I think that's his name. He then went on to star in Burn Notice. Wow. And Sam Waterston was there, and after the takes would end, he would go bum, bum, and, like, do it himself. And it was a scandalous. It was a scandalous episode. Do you have the plot?
Brian Lucci
Yeah, they. They. We. I looked it up. Mary Reese is who you played.
Sarah Ramos
Uh huh.
Brian Lucci
And it was. It was called Good Faith.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Where you were a young girl, Christian father, and this guy started a fire to protect you or evolution.
Sarah Ramos
Right. Because my character hooked up with her priest, I think, and they found out because she had chlamydia.
Brian Lucci
Oh, dear Lord.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, that's how they found out. And I just remember there was a scene where I'm like, fire and brimstone. You think I don't know that? Like, I'm going to fire in brimstone.
Brian Lucci
Would you go back and play in Law and Order if you had a chance?
Sarah Ramos
Oh, my God. Is like, do I have a chance? Can I do it?
Brian Lucci
They just want to know. Somebody out there wants to know, let's go. And if you did go back, would you play a victim or a bad guy?
Sarah Ramos
About. I'm talking. Oh, you're talking guest star. Yeah, no, I'm talking. I'm in more attorney. I'm. I'm in the. The squad.
Brian Lucci
Aren't you too busy right now? You got two shows going.
Sarah Ramos
Lennox can get.
Brian Lucci
You know, you can get down.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Lucci
All right. We all know that. I love your character. I. I love what I. I liked Chicago Med, but I love Chicago Mad. Yeah, I really, really got into it. Like. Like, we look forward to it. You mean, like, people are talking. And I said, I told Rebecca McGill, who's one of the big bosses in Wolf. I said, I don't know if I could do Dr. Lennox because, like, I've been following your character, and there's all these different layers to you that, like, on pd, we get into it, but we're so busy with the police work. But with you navigating through it, that fall finale. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, yeah, I want to talk to you about that. When I loved it and I loved where you're at now with Ripley Like I said, so I watched a couple days ago or last night where there was a scene. I'm gonna bring it up now. I know I'm jumping around, but I'm sorry. Where you went into Goodwin and you broke down your relationship because you wanted it to be all proper, right?
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. In keeping with the hospital's policy regarding reporting relationships that could potentially adversely affect patient care, particularly between supervisors such as myself, and their direct reports, such as Dr. Ripley here, I feel it's necessary to inform you that the two of us have been having sexual relations.
Brian Lucci
Uh, I see.
Sarah Ramos
At no time did we compromise patient care in any way but to fulfill reporting requirements. And moving in reverse chronological order from our most recent to our first assignation this morning.
Brian Lucci
Uh, that's fine, Dr. Lennox. I get the picture. How do you not laugh? Like, I would have been busting.
Sarah Ramos
I think we were laughing afterwards. I. I think it. It's funny if you play it straight. Like, it's not funny if you're, like, trying to joke around about it. But there was just a lot of detail that most people would be uncomfortable sharing.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. It was uncomfortable hearing, and. And Goodwin played it so well, where she just felt like she was a pinata every time you opened your mouth. There was too much information.
Sarah Ramos
Yes.
Brian Lucci
It was awesome.
Sarah Ramos
Thank you. And to your point about Alan MacDonald, when I first joined in the first episode of season 10, I had a line that was to Archer saying, I'm here for a reason, and it's not to maintain the status quo. Saying, get over yourself. Yeah, I'm gonna make some changes. And I felt like that was Alan's M.O. coming in. He was like, he's here for a reason, and it's not to maintain the status quo.
Brian Lucci
Wow.
Sarah Ramos
And he didn't. And now it's your favorite show.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. I mean, you've had some cool. You were talking to. I can't remember the doctor. And you said to the doctors. I don't even know why I have to explain this to you. That, like, how do you not know you're too good of a doctor?
Sarah Ramos
Yes.
Brian Lucci
I don't know if you remember the scene, but it was bad.
Sarah Ramos
I do remember that. To Naomi.
Brian Lucci
Ye. Like, I don't even like.
Sarah Ramos
Or was it to just wait to Dr. Asher. Yeah. Cause she's all in her head. Well, you know.
Brian Lucci
And you say it so matter of factly and cool. What was it like jumping into Chicago Med 10 seasons in. Can you tell us about that?
Sarah Ramos
I mean, it was both, you know, a little intimidating, but also, I came in with Alan McDonald and Darren Barnett. So we. I had some new people coming in with me. They made me feel very welcome. I'd worked with Oliver Platt on SO and he and I both did both shows, and I felt like I was in my Oliver Platt era. That's my goal. And it was fun. I really like the character of Lennox. I say this all the time to Alan McDonald that, like, as an actress, you know, on other jobs, I've been often told, you know, to soften, be nicer. You know, there's this kind of feminine attitude that people think you have to have. And on this show, sometimes I'll be like, oh, like, that's too much. They'll be like, no, no. Like, get pissed. Like, can you, like, snap at them more? And it's really freeing. Fun. Yeah. Like, I was the one who was like, I think the audience is like, I don't know. And they were like, don't worry about it. So that's a really nice change. Are you worried? I'm here because Goodwin's lost confidence in your ability to lead alone.
Brian Lucci
What I'm worried about is your effect on morale and making snap judgments without consulting me. I run this EED just fine.
Sarah Ramos
Before you came here, Dr. Archer, your department nearly came apart today. No plan for overflow, misuses of space, blood shortages, and a doctor who walked away and nearly cost a patient their life. I wouldn't call any of that just fine.
Brian Lucci
We were in the middle of a mass casualty incident, and in a few
Sarah Ramos
short days, Jackson Monroe will close and nearly double the patients will come through those doors. Today could become every day. I'm here for a reason, and it's not to keep the status quo.
Brian Lucci
Alan McDonald has even said that he wishes he could be more like your character in real life.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, really?
Brian Lucci
Yeah. He would love to not be worried about what he said. You know what I mean?
Sarah Ramos
Like, me too.
Brian Lucci
I think they did a nice job with Ripley, like, leading us all the way through. Like, the scene you blew me away, when the sleep. When the quickie. The quickie guy. The quickie delivery guy comes out. And I. I said it before, but I'll say it again. I love the scenes with your brother. They're real, you know, I mean, like. Like if my. A family member comes over, I'm not looking at him. I just keep doing my. You know. You keep doing you. You. How long have you known him? Because you guys are like magic together. I love you too.
Sarah Ramos
Thank you.
Brian Lucci
That's such good scenes.
Sarah Ramos
Logan Miller and I have known each other For. For a very long time. Since, like, 2011. He. I am also a filmmaker. I cast him in my first short film that I directed, and we've known each other ever since then. So that's a long time.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. And that. It. That's the comfortableness. The scenes are. Are. Are amazing.
Sarah Ramos
What did he do?
Brian Lucci
What? You. You write, you produce and direct. Really? Can you tell us a little bit? What was the last thing you directed?
Sarah Ramos
What's the last thing I directed? Well, I've been trying to get my feature directorial debut put together, get the money for it for some time now. That's called Zaddy. It's an erotic thriller, and I wrote that first as an Audible original, so you can listen to it as a short story on Audible that's narrated by me and Chris Messina, who's a great actor, and. And I adapted that as a screenplay. What have I direct? I mean, I guess, like, during the pandemic, I made all these videos that were called Quarantine, where I would reenact scenes from movies and TV shows.
Brian Lucci
Wow.
Sarah Ramos
And just put them on my Instagram. Mm. So Jesse.
Brian Lucci
Jesse Lee Sofer, who played on our show that I. That came and played with you guys, loved you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Brian Lucci
Who loved you more was Tracy. So we asked Tracy, out of everybody that was on the show in the three crossovers, who did you. She brought you up. She said it was absolutely incredible to work with you, and she had so much fun.
Sarah Ramos
That's so sweet. I. The feelings mutual.
Brian Lucci
And I know before we were rolling, I have to say this, we talked for, like, two seconds. Sarah came over to our bullpen, the Chicago PD bullpen, which is a dark place, and she had the scene. You had a couple scenes, but the one scene was with the board where you were trying to figure it out and explain it to us. And Jason Begay was in all the rest of the cast members. And it was. We haven't had Upton and Jesse back in a long time. Tracy and. And Jesse back in a long time. And then here you were, this light by the board, and all the crew was like, oh, she's cool. Oh, she's good. Like, some don't. A lot of people don't have time to watch the shows.
Sarah Ramos
Right.
Brian Lucci
You know what I mean? But they were like, we kind of wanted to keep you. We didn't want to let you go.
Sarah Ramos
I love it. It was fun. They gave me a mouthful. Like, I had some crazy dialogue that day.
Brian Lucci
More dialogue than it.
Sarah Ramos
In that scene, all the doctor Stuff
Brian Lucci
you got to say.
Sarah Ramos
I just had. I. I feel like they do this to me. They just give me, like, paragraphs and paragraphs. So people be like, and I'll. And I'm like, that's a lot.
Brian Lucci
Steven Weber brought it up, too, about, like, whatever tube you need. And this is happening. We're CO2, and he's dropping. I don't have a clue how you do it. So I'm lucky enough when I was helping Meredith and a few other people out. Lauren and Andy.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah, our writers.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. And then the showrunner, too. Send me scripts, and I'll be reading. I'm like. I get lost in, like, all the medical terms, but then they come back. I don't have a clue how you guys say them. So my policeman cast get mad, like, when I give them a big, like, a word. A cop word to say.
Sarah Ramos
Right. The jargon.
Brian Lucci
They should not complain.
Sarah Ramos
Well, they were also then it was about in the crossover, talking about where the terrorist was going to release this agent, this chemical agent. And I was saying he was. Would need a contained space. Right. Narrowing locations for a potential attack. You should focus on indoor high occupancy, airborne dispersal. Yes. He can get maximum saturation in a contained space. In still air. There's a variety of dispersal agents he can use. And remember, we can't produce an antidote without the chemical makeup. And I remember, I was like, okay, I have this whole paragraph. Like, I have to say it. And Jesse was doing fart jokes because he was like, it sounds like you're talking about a fart. Like, releasing a fart in a contained space where you're going to penetrate the most, like, area. I was like, I cannot. Like, please shut up. I have to focus right now. Like, this is how.
Brian Lucci
Get out of my head.
Sarah Ramos
And. Yeah, yeah.
Brian Lucci
Who did you gravitate most towards when you first joined the cast?
Sarah Ramos
Oh, wow. I mean, as I said, I was trying to be in my Oliver Platt era.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
I knew him from the bear. And that was like, okay, I know you, so we're safe. That you're safe. And then he convinced me to move into his same apartment building and so in the same unit, like, 20 stories below. So then I was really in my Oliver Platt era, and I feel like he was my entryway. But then I also knew Jesse Schramm had mutual friends. She's very warm. I know. And we'd had mutual friends from years and years ago.
Brian Lucci
All right, we're gonna go a little bit deeper.
Sarah Ramos
Are you ready? Okay.
Brian Lucci
How did you prep for Your role, considering all the different aspects. We're talking military autism orphaned. And I can't say the GSS thing. Diagnosis.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah, Prion.
Brian Lucci
That's what it's called. Prion.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, GSS prion.
Brian Lucci
So, I mean, they didn't throw one thing of you to do homework. They threw many, many things at you. How did you prep for all of this?
Sarah Ramos
How did I prep? Well, the doctor stuff. We have medical advisors on set and real surgeons there. I think the number one thing there, which I also brought in to the bear, is. And I was advised this by our culinary producer on the bear, where, you know, we're doing this big, stressful kitchen scene, and everybody's stressed. And Coco Storer, who's the culinary producer, would be like, no, but you're not. Like, you've seen worse.
Brian Lucci
Oh, I love it.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. Like, you're just like, yeah, it's another day. And that's very much like our. Our surgeon advisor, Vicky, is very much like, yeah. When their surgery's like, I just sit on a trash can and watch them, like, because once you get to that point, you're advising and supervising, and you're like, yeah, this is what's happening. Like, she's like, much Has a monotone to a degree. And so that was, I think, very important because you. You want to sell the stakes, but you want to also show. I know what's happening here. And I, like, I'm not out of my depth.
Brian Lucci
Right. Like, on our show, like, I say the same thing, guys. You. You've been a Police for 10 years. You're a veteran.
Sarah Ramos
Right?
Brian Lucci
Like, you stood over a thousand bodies. Yeah, but. But it's hard because then for acting, it's like they want to get this emotion out of you. Right? So isn't that. So you get all these different directors that are trying to pull. We gotta see something. Isn't it difficult to.
Sarah Ramos
Right, yeah, it's a balance of trying to. It's definitely a balance. I'm just laughing because once in the episode where this woman. We thought she'd had a miscarriage, but then. Then we thought she had an abortion, and then she actually had given birth to this baby. And we were like, where's the baby? Yes. Yes. And the Marina had to come in, and I feel like I got made fun of because there was, like, a shot of Lennox at the end of that. Like, everybody's like. And Lennox was like, here we go again. Like, having to deal with this baby that. That's been hidden, so that's lost.
Brian Lucci
They felt you Were cold. Like a cold.
Sarah Ramos
I think. I think it was my husband or somebody who was like, she's. She's just literally rolling her eyes, which is maybe a little too chill.
Brian Lucci
And there's a baby still out there.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. That's like, oh, where's the baby? God, add that to my list.
Brian Lucci
Marina called me about that, and so did the writers. I thought it was a cool story. You know, at first you didn't know if there was an infection. Blah, blah, blah.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Marina's like, you know, I'm coming in there. How am I supposed to say this? I said, you got to deal. It's a murder.
Sarah Ramos
Right.
Brian Lucci
You know what I mean? And then you guys too, and it's an unfortunate murder, but it's a murder. Like, no one was here to protect this kid. So those writers were smart enough. Like, boom. Yeah, we remembered it. You know what I mean? Like, it affected you on all these different levels. Our world into your world, and. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you. You came off as like.
Sarah Ramos
Well, I don't. I didn't mean to come off like that. I just feel like, as Lennox, it's like, Jesus, there's a lot happening. Every episode. Like, every episode, there's a whole new headache. I got to deal with this now. Okay, here we go. Like, oh, now the baby's lost. Jesus.
Brian Lucci
Can I just get to my lunch? How about this military background that they give you? That's pretty. That's cool.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, it is cool. I. I'll be honest. I. I didn't do much prep for that. I.
Brian Lucci
But it lives in you.
Sarah Ramos
Yes. I'm in incredible military shape, and everybody who knows me knows that.
Brian Lucci
Take that to the bank.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
What about the autism part? They just.
Sarah Ramos
Well, multiple. Multiple items here. I was on a TV show called Parenthood for multiple years where I played the older sister of a character who had Asperger's. That storyline was dealt with extensively, and we would. It was very important to the show and to the production, and we would go to autism awareness events, and so I learned a lot there. So I felt, in a way, I was like, okay, I already got that.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, that.
Sarah Ramos
Some training for this. And then, you know, I actually. I feel like, in a similar way to what Alan McDonald said, a lot of what Lennox says is, like, stuff that I would like to say if I didn't. If I wasn't worried about what other people thought of me. Like, I said, I was like, oh. Kind of policing her tone sometimes and being like, oh, they're gonna hate her for this. Cause like, the audience kind of did hate Lennox at the beginning and having to push back against my own fears in that realm.
Brian Lucci
So the one thing that I. Like, I'm embarrassed. Not embarrassed, but, like, I don't know, the GSS that you talk about. So it's been an arching story forever. It's hereditary. It stays in your family, and your brother could quite possibly have it. And there's no time on it. Right. I. I asked multiple questions.
Sarah Ramos
I'm sorry. So what I understand GSS prion disease to be a very rare type of prion disease which affects your brain. And in the show, Lennox's mother had it and she died of it. And she didn't know she had it until she started showing symptoms in her, like, early to mid-40s and she showed symptoms. And then within a year of those first symptoms, she.
Brian Lucci
She passed away. In her 40s?
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, early.
Brian Lucci
Oh, God.
Sarah Ramos
So that's what the stress and fear is. And it was, you know, really traumatizing to the Lennox family. Of course, their dad, you know, also committed suicide the same day because he didn't want to live without the mom. So how they got trauma.
Brian Lucci
You have all that going on.
Sarah Ramos
They got trauma and it's in the genes and they didn't want to take this test. And I. Here we are.
Brian Lucci
We gotta take a real quick break, but stick around for more with Chicago Meds Sarah Ramos right after this. Focus features in Blumhouse present Obsession.
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Brian Lucci
We're back talking with the incredible Sarah Ramos, who plays one of my favorite characters in all the one Chicago world. That's right. Dr. Caitlin Lennox. How much of Lennox is in you and how much of you is in Lennox?
Sarah Ramos
Well, as I said in my first meeting with Alan and the wolf heads, you know, I was like, oh, so you think you. You think. You think I'm right to play this, like, uptight bitch. Just kidding, Just kidding.
Brian Lucci
But you do it well.
Sarah Ramos
But I was like, okay. I mean, look, and I wouldn't. I don't think that's fair. I'm exaggerating. I don't think it's fair to call her that. But I think, you know, if you weren't afraid of what other people thought of you. I just love an angry woman. She's got a lot of anger in her.
Brian Lucci
You didn't know what. You don't know what she's gonna say. So as a viewer, I'm just telling you it's like someone who loves you. I love your character. And I'm sitting there, what is she going to say? Because, you know, it's good. On our show, void is the truth. It's all about the truth. So I learned early on where I went and told him something the first season. Hey, bro, you got to watch out. Don't say this. Please don't say I said anything.
Sarah Ramos
Right?
Brian Lucci
And he went and told the person I said, I can never tell you because he. He'll give you up. You know, there's nothing better than the truth. We have to say the truth, right? No, bro, sometimes you don't have to say the truth, right? You got to bite the truth. He is still to this day the truth. And with your character, like, don't ask her something you don't want to hear the answer to. You know what I mean?
Sarah Ramos
Like, yes, I love it.
Brian Lucci
It's.
Sarah Ramos
I think it's really.
Brian Lucci
It's refreshing.
Sarah Ramos
It is refreshing. I mean, look, it's an acquired taste. As I said, people did not care for Lennox at the beginning.
Brian Lucci
When you say people, you mean viewers.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
Oh.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah. We had the mean. Well, I was like, oh, yeah. Because there was so much excitement on set where people were like, I love your character. And like, oh, great. Like, this is going to be so great. And then I, like, you know, logged on to Twitter or something and I
Brian Lucci
was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sarah Ramos
They don't. They. They're not laughing in the same way. They're like. But it was really interesting because it. It has a lot to do with the fact that she's a woman and she's younger and she's confident over perhaps overly confident at times, but she knows what she's doing.
Brian Lucci
She's badass. She gets in there. You know what I mean? Like, when you cut that pacemaker. I don't know what. Defibrillator, whatever it is.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
So I have one. You know what I mean? When. When you did that and the thing. Well, first I seen him zapping and I'm going, what's good? Your show's brutal with the makeup people. Kudos to them. I don't know their.
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Sarah Ramos
Their names, but their special effects.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, special effects and makeup on your show. Second and none. I'm waiting for an alien to come out. What are their names?
Sarah Ramos
I stepped over Crystal and Justine and Libby.
Brian Lucci
Shout out, shout out, shout out.
Sarah Ramos
They're incredible.
Brian Lucci
Amazing.
Sarah Ramos
Yes.
Brian Lucci
So he's laying there and all of a sudden the other doctor's standing there and you just. You didn't take no shit. You just slid it out and then you got electrocuted that day.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
I was like, oh, my God, I loved you, but I hated you.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Because I got one and I was thinking, could this happen to me?
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. No fun.
Sarah Ramos
No. But Lennox, Lennox, Lennox, Lennox, Lennox. You know, I just. I. I wish sometimes I could be more like. Like, she just doesn't care. I think in part because she's on the spectrum. What? Like, other people are thinking I versus, you know, on the other side am like, whatever. I'm saying, I'm like. My problem is that I'm like, reading. I'm like, did they like that? Oh, no, I went too far. Let me counter it by being like this now. And that never works.
Brian Lucci
Also, did you borrow anything from your personal life to help build your character?
Sarah Ramos
I think, you know, just what I've already been referencing an internal anger, frustration. But actually getting to say it, like, how many times, you know, are we all out in the world being like, are you kidding me? Like, what? And Lennox is just like, what are you talking about? Like, she's just like, that doesn't make sense. I'm like, wow. I would be. I would be scared of being called mean, rude, all the things that they call her, but it's it's fun. She just does it.
Brian Lucci
If you had to pick any scene or any moment that defines who Lennox is as a character. Is there one?
Sarah Ramos
Any scene? Well, everyone points to the scene in the first season that I was in where Lennox lays down with the autistic boy who is having a meltdown, and she just lays with him. So I think that's a strong moment. Oh, really? Episode five. Yeah. That's when people kind of started softening on her, really? And being like, okay, maybe she has a heart.
Brian Lucci
So one of my. One of my favorite things about Lennox and the arching story was with the two couples from the domestic. I forgot their first name and their last name that played the characters.
Sarah Ramos
Yes, Faye. The characters were Faye and Devin.
Brian Lucci
And Devin, yeah. And over, like, five episodes until. Until the fall finale. So you murdered all that is what I'm trying to say.
Sarah Ramos
Thank you so much.
Brian Lucci
Were they cool?
Sarah Ramos
They were amazing. Olivia and Jack were the actors. They were very talented. From New York. Jack, particularly, was so creepy and well cast.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
As. It's hard to say he was well cast as this domestic abuser, but he just had this, like, creepy look when they would, like, hold on him. He had kind of a Pete Ulrich from Scream vibe. And I just remember them being like, oh, he's. He's creepy.
Brian Lucci
And. Yeah, yeah.
Sarah Ramos
It's like, setting the tone. I hate it.
Brian Lucci
I couldn't wait. I love how it ended. I like that she got her thing.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
As. As playing Lennox, what is the most challenging scenes to do or. And what's the most fun?
Sarah Ramos
I think the most fun scenes are, you know, her status quo. She's just talking shit, telling everybody how it is. No fear. I think the most challenging are when she really gets emotional and shows her vulnerable side, because we're talking, like, life or death stuff here. It's hard to. You want to tell that story well and honestly, to be like, okay, I've been diagnosed with this rare disease that killed my mom. Like, it's, like, really high stakes.
Brian Lucci
Is the surgeries hard to do, like, when you're inside these bodies?
Sarah Ramos
Our crew does such a great job. As you mentioned, our special effects team is incredible. Susie Schelling, our medical advisor. We have true surgeons coming in, so I feel very taken care of in those moments. I was really scared at the beginning. Like, I feel like my first surgery scene. Also our special effects guy, Masih, like, they gave me, like, a scalpel, and they're like, okay, and you're gonna have to cut through this prosthetic, and it's it's, you know, very thick, and underneath we have this tube and it has blood in it, and the camera's gonna be right on top of it and.
Brian Lucci
And it' razor real rage gun.
Sarah Ramos
You practice with a fake and then they give you the reel for the shot, and they're like, we only have one take at this, so you better get the blood. And I'm like, okay, you're wearing gloves
Brian Lucci
and a stupid hat.
Sarah Ramos
Don't mess this up. And I. I did it. I got it on the first try and got the blood out. And since then, Maci's been like, we love you. Yeah.
Brian Lucci
So I was like, is there one that's been a nightmare that happened to you for a little behind the scenes? Has something gone wrong?
Sarah Ramos
We had one where, like, the tool wasn't correct. I can't remember what it was because I'm like, I'm trying to pull it off, and it's like the tool's just not, like, sawing the fake bone. I also learned how to. Sometimes at the end of a day, like, end of a 14 hour day, they'll be like, okay, now give Sarah the bone saw and we're gonna do the bone saw shot. And I'm like, huh? Like, what? I have to learn how to use a bone saw. Right.
Brian Lucci
I'm gonna do an insert.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Like, it's nothing. Archer said that he. He had to do the leg extensions on a guy, and for a story, he wanted to be taller. This gentleman.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
And he had an infection. He said surgery's brutal. Like, it's. You're in there.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Don't spoil anything coming up. Yeah, but what are you enjoying about what's happening to Lennox this season and what do you hope for Lennox?
Sarah Ramos
I like. I mean, so much has happened this season.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
You got murdered left and right as you mentioned. Yeah. She's, like, getting pistol whipped. Having physical fights in the crossover.
Brian Lucci
The pellets you were taking, the. The narcotics pellets. And the guy, the lady came in with the gun to try to rob it. You were doing a surgery. I think that was a season.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
You were extracting heroin pellets.
Sarah Ramos
I know. That's what I mean.
Brian Lucci
That was cool. You stood there, you didn't give a.
Sarah Ramos
Because she's. She's like, death is coming.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
For all of us.
Brian Lucci
You're right. What is it?
Sarah Ramos
Any of us could die anytime.
Brian Lucci
You got all wide eyed.
Sarah Ramos
But I like. So I like all the action stuff. That's fun. It is fun to go over to the other shows. Because there's a lot of action on those shows, and it makes me be like, okay, Med, we know where we're at. We're where it's at, as they say. And of course, seeing how Lennox does romance is fun.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, you're killing the romance part. I will say that From. From just going to the bar where you're gonna hook up with somebody, but then, you know, I mean, then getting a man and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and the Ripley thing. I know at first maybe you didn't dig, like, you know, well, because I
Sarah Ramos
was just scared that it was gonna boring turn into, like, soften. Overly soften the situation. No, it isn't.
Brian Lucci
It is so good.
Sarah Ramos
And I will say the like, as Steven Weber calls it, like, she's a sex maniac now. But that came from at the end of last season. You know, I had this really sad ending where she has this prion diagnosis. She doesn't tell anybody that she's positive. It's really lonely. It's really scary. And I was just like, I don't want to do a full season. That's, like, sad.
Brian Lucci
Right.
Sarah Ramos
I want it, like, let's do something fun and have her be hooking up with people. And they really ran with that.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, they did. They got away with some stuff. Is there anything you hope for her? Anything you hope for, Lennox?
Sarah Ramos
More fun.
Brian Lucci
More fun.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. What's that gonna look like? You know?
Brian Lucci
Yeah. Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
I don't know.
Brian Lucci
All right, let's go behind the scenes. What is one of the best memories on set so far?
Sarah Ramos
Oh, my gosh. What? What are the best memories and how
Brian Lucci
many episodes you got? 22. From 23. Did you guys do 20 last year?
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, we do. I'm almost 40 because we get two episodes off a season, and this year we did 21.
Brian Lucci
Okay, so.
Sarah Ramos
So I don't know, but 30 plus.
Brian Lucci
Best memory on set.
Sarah Ramos
Best memory on set. I'm trying to think. Well, when it was warm out, the crew made these Cornhole. Chicago Med, cornhole set. So we set them up in the parking lot and played cornhole. So that was really fun.
Brian Lucci
Oh, so that is behind the scenes.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Who is an actor you learned from on set, and what have they taught you?
Sarah Ramos
Wow. I mean, I learn from everybody. Nobody does it like Ipatha.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, She's a baller, right?
Sarah Ramos
She's so cool. She comes in and is. Has this great. Like, I. I can't. I don't even know how to describe her energy. She puts everyone at ease and is funny and warm. That. And it really Sets the tone for the entire crew and guest actors and all of that.
Brian Lucci
So I learned the crew entirely, like, loves her.
Sarah Ramos
She's amazing, and she's fun.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
She's like. It has a fun energy to it. It's not just like, like, hello, like, thank you for being here. It's like, she's like, hey, mother.
Brian Lucci
And she will put you in your sh. She'll put you on your spot, too,
Sarah Ramos
if you're out of line, if needed. So she's like. She just has this amazing command that I think I would love to aspire to one day. And then, you know, like, Stephen Weber comes in. He's, like, singing his own show tunes. Like, everybody. I learned to be myself, you know, because everybody is just themselves.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. You have all the different colors in the. In the grand box, you know, I mean, like, let red be red, let yellow be. It's awesome.
Sarah Ramos
Yes.
Brian Lucci
Frost, he's. He's cool. He's his own little animal, you know? I mean, got all this crazy Mr.
Sarah Ramos
Perfect. I know.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. He looks a little too good.
Sarah Ramos
It's not. I was like, it's not fair, because when I came into Chicago Med the first season, everybody hated. They were like, lennox, get rid of her. And they're like, we love Frost. This, like, perfect, handsome doctors always smiling and sa. Having children. I was like, are you serious?
Brian Lucci
He is kind of perfect.
Sarah Ramos
He's perfect. Yeah.
Brian Lucci
The kid. The kid in the plastic bubble.
Sarah Ramos
He's literally perfect.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
It's not fair. Yeah.
Brian Lucci
What's the best part about getting into character? I was told you have a very cool, special hair prep routine. I don't know where I got this.
Sarah Ramos
Wow. Well, our. Our hair. The head of our hair department, Lillian Dion, is extremely talented. And for. Especially my first season, they wanted. And I guess the first half of this season, they wanted Lennox to have a lot of updos to show, you know, she's uptight. She's back together.
Brian Lucci
I didn't realize it.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. And so I don't know that many different updos, but Lillian does. And so I would just kind. She would have to come up with, like, 20 plus updos. And so I was like, go for it. She would be doing fishtail braids, and. And they.
Brian Lucci
And they loved it. The show. Loved it. Like that.
Sarah Ramos
Yes. Well, there was one look that. That I would. I say gagged Gaffney, because it was kind of like a little bit of a beehive moment. It was a little where some of the. Some of the viewers were like, why does a doctor have hair like this I'm like. But it works for Lennox. You know, she. This is how Lennox unwinds. She does her hair in intricate fashion.
Brian Lucci
Who would you say is your favorite scene partner? Is it okay to ask that question?
Sarah Ramos
Well, I love. I'm not gonna give you the answer you want, but I. We get kind of paired up in anyone's world in duos. Like. Like at the beginning of the season, me and Darren Barnett, who plays Frost, got paired up a lot, and you just get into a rhythm where you're like, all right, you go. Now you go. And so that's fun. When I get paired up with. With Jesse Schramm, that's fun for different reasons.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. The serious ones is good with this guy, like, Oliver. I. I read a script the other day that's. That's not out yet, so I can't speak to it, but his dialogue was the entire page. I don't even know how.
Sarah Ramos
Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
I would hate to sit there and listen to him and be the respectful actor on the other side.
Sarah Ramos
You know what I mean? Like the book of Charles.
Brian Lucci
Yeah, I don't want to do the. I don't want to do Charles scenes.
Sarah Ramos
You know what I mean? But it was also fun when I got to work with Weber, and we were fighting, you know, I think just fighting. It's fun to fight with Luke, who plays Ripley. It's fun to fight.
Brian Lucci
You know, it's fun to fight. All right. You've been acting for so much of your life and have been on a lot of different sets. What would you say is unique about the lovely world of Chicago Med and their sets?
Sarah Ramos
Wow. Well, Chicago Med shoots mostly on stage. It's gorgeous. We have incredible craft service.
Brian Lucci
You're not the only one to say that It's. They won't share it, though, I'm gonna be honest. Like, we come by, you got to get, like, the identity. You got to put a fingerprint down. Who are you with? Are you working on the show today? What set is it on? I don't blame you. It's fantastic.
Sarah Ramos
I don't know what to say, but it's the best craft service I've ever had on any show. It's incredible, and it's. When you're in the same stage, like, it's really keeping the show running because we're there all the time. So that's very unique. I mean, the fact that it's, like, a part of the one Chicago family, and we, like, do these dinners where everybody goes and you Do a crossover. Like, that's very unique. This Chicago community aspect of it, and the fact that it's now running over 200 episodes, like, that just doesn't really exist anymore.
Brian Lucci
We're beyond lucky. I always say this. When we pull in this. In a space, like, you guys turn in and your trailers are within your. They're inside. Like, you're right there.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
But, like, when you're there and you're going through the breezeways, isn't it crazy? It's like the circus of all of these different things that are going on all three different shows. We're lucky because we're right next to fire.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
So we get to throw rocks at each other every once in a while.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, well, yeah. And when I was shooting the bear, I would. They're like, at the end. The other end of Cinespace, so.
Brian Lucci
Oh. I didn't even realize bear was there sometimes. They're there all the time.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, they have. They are there a lot of the time. They have. They built the set of the bear kitchen for stage 41. Oh, yeah.
Brian Lucci
I didn't know. I'm a sleeping one.
Sarah Ramos
They're right by the. By the burn stage.
Brian Lucci
Wow. Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah, yeah. Yes. And so I did have a period where I was like, I run Cinespace. Like, I'm walking from Chicago Med through
Brian Lucci
Chicago pd so everyone could enjoy it.
Sarah Ramos
No, everybody heard it, but I was like. And then walking all the way to the bear, I was like, damn, I just gotta get into the shy.
Brian Lucci
Yeah.
Sarah Ramos
Deli, boys. Hey, where's my invitation?
Brian Lucci
It is badass. Being part of being able to get the golden ticket in the.
Sarah Ramos
It's great.
Brian Lucci
Okay, Sarah, it's time for our lightning round of rapid fire questions.
Sarah Ramos
Okay.
Brian Lucci
But for men, I call them answers stat. You ready?
Sarah Ramos
Oh. Huh. I see what you did there, Sarah.
Brian Lucci
If you could bring any character from any Wolf entertainment show, talking Law and Order, svu.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
FBI, or any of the Chicago shows onto your show, who would you choose and why?
Sarah Ramos
Well, I'd like to see Ipatha's character from Law and Order interact with her character on Chicago Med.
Brian Lucci
Oh, dude, that's unique. No one said that.
Sarah Ramos
Wow, look at you. That'd be cool. And then, you know the classics. I'd like to get the whole team from Law and Order over here.
Brian Lucci
Oh, wow.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. I don't know if you could do that, but you're the first one.
Sarah Ramos
Why not? Why can't? They were in Chicago and they. Something happened. They had to go to the hospital.
Brian Lucci
I love it. And you Guys have to work, not a reverse. If you could join any other Wolf shows, which one would you go to?
Sarah Ramos
I think I've made it clear. Law and order.
Brian Lucci
It is. Law and Order.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah. Because it's in New York and I want to play a lawyer.
Brian Lucci
All right, here's one. If, God forbid, you were rushed into an emergency surgery with Chicago Med characters.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
Who would you want to work on you the Most and why?
Sarah Ramos
Dr. Caitlin Lennox. Because she. She pulls off one in a million more than once.
Brian Lucci
Yeah. Yeah. If you could go on vacation with any of the characters from the one Chicago World World, who would you go with and why?
Sarah Ramos
Mm. Goodwin, you would take.
Brian Lucci
Good one, huh?
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
She's a party animal.
Sarah Ramos
Yeah.
Brian Lucci
All right, this is your last one. Okay. Now, which actor would you want to go on a vacation with across all the Chicago shows?
Sarah Ramos
Why are you trying to start fight?
Brian Lucci
I'm not. These. I don't. I don't write them. But it's good. It's it. People find out who you love and who you don't love.
Sarah Ramos
I told you, I'm a David Eigenberg fan.
Brian Lucci
Okay.
Sarah Ramos
I want to go on vacation to a Sex and the City convention with him.
Brian Lucci
All right. If we could sum this up at the end of. This has been awesome. I really want to thank you.
Sarah Ramos
Thank you.
Brian Lucci
We're trying to use this podcast to show everyone, like, who's working on the show, Writers, cast, crew, awesome actors. And so thank you so much. You're huge success right now across the new. The new person. But it's only two. But everybody's, like, really, really loving on you, so I hope you keep killing it.
Sarah Ramos
Thank you.
Brian Lucci
And that's that for this week's One Chicago podcast. Thank you so much for listening, and much love to the wonderful Sarah Ramos for geeking out with me about one of my favorite shows, catcher is Dr. Lennox. Every week on Chicago Med. Check out all our one Chicago shows. Wednesday night on NBC and anytime on the Peacock. Cause you don't want to miss a thing once. Chicago airs on Wednesday night at 8, 7 Central on NBC. And you can stream it on Peacock. The One Chicago Podcast is a production of Wolf Entertainment and USG Audio. The series is hosted by me, Brian Lucci. It's executive produced by Dick Wolf, Elliot Wolf and Steven Michael at Wolf Entertainment, Josh Block at USG Audio, and John Yale Kastner at Spoke Media. Our showrunner is Derek John, our producer is Maggie Debrizzi, and our audio producers are Jason Mark and Kelly Kauf. Video production by Bo Delmore. Coordinating production by Tess Ryan. Our production assistant is Montserrat Rodriguez with engineering and mix by Evan Arnett and original music by John o'. Hara. This series is produced by Spoke Media and distributed by Realm. Production Support for USG Audio by Josh Lalonghi I'm Brian Luch. Thanks for listening and and we'll see you all soon. Cut.
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Release Date: April 23, 2026
Host: Brian Lucci
Guest: Sarah Ramos
This episode of the One Chicago Podcast features Sarah Ramos, who plays Dr. Caitlin Lennox, the bold and uncompromising new addition to Chicago Med’s Emergency Department. Host Brian Lucci, an avid Chicago Med fan and former Chicago cop turned TV producer, delves into Sarah’s long career, her process embodying Lennox, and what it means to play such a formidable female doctor on one of TV’s biggest medical dramas. The discussion covers behind-the-scenes stories, Sarah's journey from childhood acting to directing, insights into her character’s complex backstory, and the real-life dynamics that make Chicago Med and the broader One Chicago universe so beloved.
Pop culture obsession and the Olsen Twins:
"I like to say that my origin story started when I was 10 years old on a Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen cruise ... I was obsessed with pop culture, specifically the Olsen twins." (04:51)
Breakout role:
"Who doesn't remember being on Law and Order? ... after the takes would end, [Sam Waterston] would go 'bum, bum', and, like, do it himself." (06:21)
Permission to be tough:
"On this show, sometimes I'll be like, oh, like, that's too much. They'll be like, 'No, no. Like, get pissed.' And it's really freeing." (02:45, 11:07)
Memorable 'Too Much Information' Scene:
"'At no time did we compromise patient care in any way but to fulfill reporting requirements. And moving in reverse chronological order from our most recent to our first assignation this morning.' ... It's funny if you play it straight." (08:51)
Jumping in at Season 10:
"It was both ... a little intimidating, but also, I came in with Alan McDonald and Darren Barnett ... I was in my Oliver Platt era." (11:07)
Natural chemistry with Logan Miller:
Deep character layers:
"How did I prep? ... The doctor stuff, we have medical advisors on set ... our surgeon advisor, Vicky, is very much like, yeah, when their surgery's like, I just sit on a trash can and watch them." (19:17)
Medical and emotional balancing act:
"It's a balance ... You want to sell the stakes, but you want to also show: I know what's happening here. I'm not out of my depth." (20:48)
Childhood trauma as character background:
"GSS prion disease ... affects your brain ... Lennox's mother had it and she died of it ... within a year of those first symptoms, she [died]." (24:25–24:54)
"I was like ... people did not care for Lennox at the beginning ... it has a lot to do with the fact that she's a woman and she's younger and she's confident, perhaps overly confident at times, but she knows what she's doing." (28:41)
Defining scene:
"Everyone points to the scene ... where Lennox lays down with the autistic boy who is having a meltdown, and she just lays with him ... that's when people kind of started softening on her." (31:29)
Challenging vs. fun scenes:
"I think the most fun scenes are ... she's just talking shit, telling everybody how it is. No fear. I think the most challenging are when she really gets emotional and shows her vulnerable side." (33:07)
On-set highlights:
"When it was warm out, the crew made these Cornhole ... Chicago Med, cornhole set ... we set them up in the parking lot and played cornhole." (38:24)
Hair as a character cue:
"Especially my first season ... they wanted Lennox to have a lot of updos to show, you know, she's uptight. She's back together." (41:04)
The interconnected One Chicago world:
"The fact that it's part of the One Chicago family, and we do these dinners where everybody goes and you do a crossover ... that's very unique." (43:25)
"How many times, you know, are we all out in the world being like, are you kidding me? ... Lennox is just like, 'What are you talking about?'" (30:52)
On being told to dial it up:
“On this show ... they'll be like, 'No, no, like, get pissed.' And it's really freeing.” —Sarah (11:07)
On fan reactions to Lennox:
“People did not care for Lennox at the beginning ... it has a lot to do with the fact that she’s a woman and she’s younger and she’s confident” —Sarah (28:41)
On iconic Lennox bluntness:
“I just love an angry woman. She’s got a lot of anger in her … don’t ask her something you don’t want to hear the answer to.” —Sarah (27:56, 28:37)
Defining scene for Lennox:
“Where Lennox lays down with the autistic boy who is having a meltdown … that’s when people kind of started softening on her.” —Sarah (31:29)
Romance on Chicago Med:
“As Steven Weber calls it, 'she’s a sex maniac now.' That came from at the end of last season ... I was just like, I don’t want to do a full season that’s, like, sad. ... I want it, like, let’s do something fun and have her be hooking up with people.” —Sarah (37:04)
Why she'd want Ipatha’s Law & Order and Chicago Med characters to meet:
“Well, I’d like to see Ipatha’s character from Law and Order interact with her character on Chicago Med.” —Sarah (45:50)
The episode is spirited and conversational, with Brian’s fandom matching Sarah’s affable candor and humor. Sarah’s responses are consistently thoughtful, personal, and insightful, giving fans a real sense of her approach to a complicated role and her place within the One Chicago family. The discussion is punctuated by jokes (“I’m in my Oliver Platt era”), actor shout-outs, and frank discussion of the social issues Lennox’s arc raises, including gender and audience perceptions.
This episode provides a layered, inside look at how Chicago Med’s writers and actors craft characters that defy easy categorization. Sarah Ramos shares not only the backstory to Dr. Lennox but also the real challenges and freedoms that come from playing someone so “stone cold awesome.” The stories, honesty, and chemistry on display help explain both the enduring appeal of Chicago Med and how One Chicago stays fresh season after season.