S1 E3: How Well Do You Know Your Neighbors?

Summary

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Only Murders in the Building Official Podcast

S1 E3: How Well Do You Know Your Neighbors?

Host: Hulu, Michael Cyril Creighton (Howard)
Release Date: September 1, 2021

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into episode three of "Only Murders in the Building," focusing on Howard, the enigmatic cat-loving neighbor played by Michael Cyril Creighton. With hosts Elizabeth Keener and Kevin Lahn, the show offers a blend of behind-the-scenes insights, playful banter, and a closer look at the cast and the intricacies involved in creating the Arconia's mystery-laden world. The discussion blends show analysis, personal anecdotes from Michael, costume and set secrets, and even a whodunit guessing game reflecting the podcast-within-a-podcast premise of the series.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Meet the Cast: Michael Cyril Creighton as Howard

• Gallery Wall Intro:

  • Michael calls in from New York, sitting in front of an art-filled wall.
  • Shares details: “That's a painting of Madeline Kahn... there is a drawing I did of my husband and me and our dog.” (01:32)

• Howard vs. Michael:

  • Despite playing a cat devotee, Michael is "a dog person" but appreciates all animals.
  • “There was some substitution in my acting, but I am a dog person. I do have a dog. I do like cats.” (02:04)
  • Jokes about never having a portrait of his pet above the fireplace, “No portraits of Olivine, but I think in the freezer.” (02:23)

2. True Crime Fandom

• Michael isn’t a listener of true crime podcasts but enjoys true crime documentaries, especially those about cults.
  • “I don't listen to any true crime podcasts or any of Dateline 2020, but I do love true crime documentary shows like Cult Ones.” (02:38)
  • He binged "I'll Be Gone in the Dark": “I was like, I'm just gonna start one episode... by the next day, I had finished the whole thing.” (02:57)

3. Casting and Auditioning During COVID

• Michael’s path to the role involved a connection (Jamie Babbitt, director/EP) but was mostly a traditional process, albeit virtual:
  • “I auditioned for it on Zoom because it was, you know, in the heat of it all, fell in love with the part immediately…” (03:15)
• He preferred Zoom auditions over self-taping:
  • “I really thrive off of other people... the fact that this one was specifically on Zoom, I think really helped me sort of give the performance I wanted to give.” (04:08)

4. Exploring Howard’s Character

• “The writing of the character is such a gift. Because he's not just one thing... very sweet and sour... very emotional, very gentle in some ways, but has a sharp, sharp temper." (04:59)
• Howard’s grudge against Tim Kono is acknowledged and central to his interactions:
  • “He has a lot of rage for someone in particular… Tim Kono, her neighbor. Dead man walking.” (05:24-05:31)
• While the character seems odd, Michael layered the performance based on the script, staying true to the writers’ vision.
• He shares a “lost” monologue about Evelyn the cat that meant a lot during his prep:
  • “There was a longer monologue about Evelyn the cat... she would lick the salt off my fingers... very touching, very bizarre…” (05:47)

5. On Set Stories: First Days and Stunt Work

• Michael’s first scene was the memorial, where Howard is introduced in tears:
  • “The very first time we meet you, you're crying... It's not about Tim, it's about Tim.” (06:40)
• Starstruck moments with the cast:
  • "A room of people I admired... ranging from people I grew up watching to Selena Gomez, who I've danced poorly to her music for a lot of my adult life.” (06:56)
• The infamous fainting scene:
  • Multiple falls were needed, with a stunt coordinator and Michael’s former stunt double on set to assist, but Michael did all the falls himself.
  • “I ended up doing the fall, but he was helping me do it safely with the stunt coordinator.” (07:59)
• Costume fun:
  • Michael relished how frumpy and sad Howard appears: “This long, sad cardigan is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Let's put him in a mock turtleneck. Do you have it in brown?” (09:28)
  • “There was another guy there who was, like, a stronger version of me in the very exact costume. So there was two mes walking around.” (09:33)

6. Filming During COVID

• New norms on set: frequent tests, distancing, lack of hugging, seeing only half of people’s faces.
• "You want to connect. It took some adjusting... Steven, Marty, do impressions of what it's like to be directed by someone who has a mask on and a helmet, and you can't really hear a lot of what they're saying. So you just kind of nod..." (10:29)
• Gratitude for the effort to keep things running:
  • “The amount of work... from the PAs to John the showrunner... I can't. I'm so grateful that the show got made and that I got to do it.” (11:46)

7. New York Vibes, Broadway Moments, and Apartment Envy

• The theater "audition" scene, with its “flash dance” style, was a highlight:
  • “That sweatshirt was a dream again, Dana [the costume designer]... I was approaching it from a sense of Real Housewives catchphrase.” (12:27)
• Performing on a stage was thrilling for Michael after a long hiatus:
  • “It was really exciting to one be on a stage, since I hadn't been on a stage in a couple years.” (13:04)
• Michael is jealous of Howard’s (enormous) apartment, poking fun at New York real estate and set design:
  • “There's, like, a cat playground... what I'm most jealous of is that kitchen is enormous.” (14:09)
  • The exterior and lobby of the Arconia are real locations, while apartments are sets. (14:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On auditioning during the pandemic:

  "I really thrive off of other people... the fact that this one was specifically on Zoom, I think really helped me sort of give the performance I wanted to give." — Michael Cyril Creighton (04:08)

• On Howard’s sweet/sour nature:

  “I kind of found him to be very sweet and sour. So he's very emotional, very gentle in some ways, but has a sharp, sharp temper.” — Michael Cyril Creighton (04:59)

• Costume confession:

  “This long, sad cardigan is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Let's put him in a mock turtleneck. Do you have it in brown?” — Michael Cyril Creighton (09:28)

• On set under COVID protocols:

  “You want to connect... It took some adjusting... So you just kind of nod and... I got that. Yeah, exactly.” — Michael Cyril Creighton (10:29)

• Apartment envy:

  “What I'm most jealous of is that kitchen is enormous. I mean, the apartment is enormous compared to, like, what really happens in New York.” — Michael Cyril Creighton (14:19)

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Whodunit Summit — The Hosts Guess

Segment starts at: 16:00

• Hosts Elizabeth and Kevin participate in their “Whodunit Summit,” guessing the killer after episode three.
  • Kevin’s guess: Sting.
  • Elizabeth’s guess: Nathan Lane’s character’s son, the deaf deli guy’s son — “Because of all the clues so far... the ones you've known for so long might be the ones that you don't know at all. So that could be…” (17:53)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:32 — Michael describes his art wall and pets
• 02:04 — Discussion on being a cat vs. dog person
• 03:15 — Origin story: how Michael was cast as Howard
• 04:59 — Exploring the character of Howard
• 05:47 — The "lost" Evelyn the cat monologue revelation
• 06:40 — Filming the memorial scene, first day on set
• 07:59 — Stunt/fainting scene details and the role of the costume
• 10:01 — COVID protocols on set and adapting
• 12:27 — The Broadway “flash dance” scene and costume highlights
• 14:19 — Real vs. set apartments and the envy of Howard's kitchen
• 16:00 — Whodunit guessing game begins

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Tone and Style

• Friendly, witty, and enthusiastic—a blend of genuine behind-the-scenes revelations and playful sleuthing.
• Michael is self-deprecating and candid; the hosts are diehard fans who relish the meta layers of the show and podcast.

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For Fans and Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for fans of Howard, cat lovers, and anyone curious about acting and filmmaking during COVID. The cast’s love for the material and the camaraderie on (and off) set shines throughout. The guessing game keeps the energy light and interactive, perfectly mirroring the whodunit fun of "Only Murders in the Building."

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Transcript

[Elizabeth Keener]

Straw Hut Media.

[Kevin Lahn]

But one of the things we first wanted to acknowledge is we were talking about spotlight, the movie, which we know you had a big part in. And the tone for the show is pretty much the same.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, a light romp. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Kevin Lahn]

Good soundtrack.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Who are we? We're a couple of true crime aficionados, not unlike Charles, Oliver and Mabel, the three main characters in Hulu's newest show, Only murders in the building. We're making a podcast about a show where the characters make their own podcast about a murder. So, meta, why are we here? To solve a murder and to try to figure it out before all is revealed in the season finale. We may not be in the arconia ourselves, but we will get some inside information from some of the cast and crew and maybe even get a few clues. As of now, we've seen the first three episodes, but as always, listeners beware. So if you haven't watched catch up now, hit the pause button, stream episodes one, two and three and come right back so we don't spoil anything for you. And in this episode, we talk with Michael Cyril Crichton, who's Howard the cat guy and a potential suspect. We caught up with Michael Cyril Crichton. He plays Howard Morris on the show. It was late in New York, but he made time for us. And his backdrop was a very unique gallery wall.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

That's a painting of Madeline Kahn.

[Elizabeth Keener]

That's phenomenal.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

And these are just other pieces of art. There is a drawing I did of my husband and me and our dog.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Oh, my God.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

This is an artist named Rebecca Morgan that I love. Maya Hayek. Just a lot of different art.

[Elizabeth Keener]

One of his most memorable roles was in the academy award winning film Spotlight. But today, episode three, Michael plays Howard, the bereaved owner of his beloved cat, Evelyn.

[Kevin Lahn]

So are you a cat person in real life?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I like all animals. I am a dog person. So there was some substitution in my acting, but I am a dog person. I do have a dog. You do have a dog? I do like cats. I like cats. I had a cat at one point. She passed away. We got new furniture. It was like, you know, all our furniture was new furniture.

[Kevin Lahn]

No portraits above the fireplace.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

No portraits of olivine, but I think in the freezer.

[Kevin Lahn]

Well, obviously the show is about the murder and the podcast within this series. Have you been one of those true crime type of people? Do you watch like Dateline 2020, any podcast?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I don't listen to any true crime podcasts or any of Dateline 2020, but I do love true crime Documentary show like Cult Ones is like the Netflix.

[Kevin Lahn]

Oh, the Cult.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

A cult one I love, which I would call crime. And I just watched, and I was late to the game on this one. I'll Be Gone in the Dark.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Oh, my God. So that kind of stuff really gets me going. Like, the other night, I was like, I'm just gonna start one episode of I'll Be Gone in the Dark. And by the next day, I had finished the whole thing.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Unfortunately, our binging is limited here, since only three episodes have been released. But to kick things off, we asked Michael how he got involved in the project.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Well, it was a regular casting thing, but I did know Jamie Babbitt, who is one of the executive producers and directed the first two episodes and I think the last two episodes. But she's amazing. And we had worked together on the pilot of League of Their Own, which was right before COVID And I got an email from her saying, there's a part in this show. I told casting about you. I auditioned for it on Zoom because it was, you know, in the heat of it all, fell in love with the part immediately, and then had a callback on Zoom with all of them, and that was it. And then I waited a long time to find out if I got it or not. But it was pretty traditional. But I did have someone in my corner, which was nice.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah, Jamie's great. Yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

Was it awkward auditioning and doing the whole process by Zoom?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I liked it because so much of almost all of the auditions I've done during this time have been taping in my own apartment with no real interaction, no feedback, nothing like that. And I really thrive off of other people, as most of us do, I think. So the fact that this one was specifically on Zoom, I think really helped me sort of give the performance I wanted to give. And there was feedback and there was, you know, a conversation, and they could get a sense of who I was. I think I might have had Sharon, my dog, with me at the time, for one of them.

[Elizabeth Keener]

That's what you have, too.

[Kevin Lahn]

Look how much I can act.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I'm pretending it's a cat. I name my dogs after people.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Once Michael was cast as Howard, the rest was just letting the script do its work. As viewers, we're starting to be suspicious of Michael's character, Howard, because, well, he's weird.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

The writing of the character is such a gift. And because he's not just one thing, he's several things at once that are often at odds with each other. I kind of found him to Be very sweet and sour. So he's very emotional, very gentle in some ways, but has a sharp, sharp temper and a lot of, you know, he has a lot of rage for someone in particular.

[Kevin Lahn]

Yes. I think he goes by the name of Tim Kono. Tim Kono, her neighbor.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Dead man walking. Yes.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Dead man walking. Yes. So it was. It was really fun. It was such a fun role because it was not one note in any way. And that was in the writing. And then they really let me do what I wanted with the role, which was great.

[Kevin Lahn]

Was there any kind of ad libbing with it or you just like, stuck?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

No, I stuck to the. I stuck to the script. When you have like that room of writers and you just kind of like go with the. Go with what they wrote because they're going to do it much better than I ever could. I will say there was something. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say this, but there was. I'm sure it doesn't matter. There was like a little. There was a little line in the audition that didn't make it into the final script. I guess that there was a. There was a longer monologue about Evelyn the cat. And there was just this moment where he talks about her walking through apartments and people, or if I was eating potato chips and how she would lick my fingers, lick the salt off my fingers. And it was like this very touching, sort of very bizarre moment in this speech. It didn't make it in, but that is one of. That was one of my favorite, like that I always hooked into when we started the scenes.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

That's what you had, a special bond.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

Well, the very first time that we meet you, which is in episode two, it's at the memorial. And the very first time we meet you, you're crying.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yes. It's not about Tim, it's about Tim. Yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

But that was a pretty good introduction for the character.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, great introduction and great introduction to everybody on the show. That was the first day that I filmed and I got to meet Selena, Marty and Steve and Jane Hudyshell and I mean, I knew Jane and Jackie Hoffman, but it was just sort of a room of people I admired, people I from, you know, ranging from people I grew up watching to people I've seen in a million plays, to Selena Gomez, who I've danced poorly to her music for a lot of my adult life.

[Elizabeth Keener]

So.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

So it was pretty. That day was a really great day.

[Elizabeth Keener]

As the story progresses, Mabel and Charles go visit Howard in his apartment to Feel him out as a suspect. And when Charles gets a nosebleed from anxiety, we discover Howard faints at the sight of blood, also known as vasovagal syncope. He falls to the floor. We wanted to know how much he had to fall to get that take.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I fell quite a few times. And you know what's really amazing is Gillian, the director, Gillian Robespierre, who I've been a big fan of for a long time. When we were talking about the episode, she wanted to know how comfortable I was with the fall and how. And I've done my own falls and stunts many times, but I just didn't know how intense it would be. So she's like, if you want someone there to do it, in case you are. Are not comfortable doing it, we can get someone. So I recommended this guy. Danny Skoch, I think is. How you say his last name. He was my stunt double on High Maintenance, which is this show I did for HBO a few years ago. And so he was there, and he was. I ended up doing the fall, but he was helping me do it safely with the stunt coordinator. But it was very funny because there was me dressed in that sort of beautifully drab, long duster cardigan.

[Kevin Lahn]

You're comfortable.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah. The mock turtleneck. And that was the. Just to digress for a second, the fitting for this character was so fun because it was like, I'm. You might not know. I'm a very vain person. I have 30 ring lights right now and a full face of colored moisturizer. There's like a wind machine going. Exactly, exactly. Lip gloss. But it was really fun to make this character, especially during episode three, look so sad and disheveled. So we were in the fitting, and she was like, do you want this long cardigan? And I was like, this long, sad cardigan is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Let's put him in a mock turtleneck. Do you have it in brown?

[Kevin Lahn]

Yes, exactly.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Do you have it in drab?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah. I give Dana a lot of credit, the costume designer, but. Oh. So I ended up doing all the falls, but there was another guy there who was, like, a stronger version of me in the very exact costume. So there was two mes walking around.

[Kevin Lahn]

It was fun.

[Elizabeth Keener]

This whole project has been created during COVID and for Michael, this was his first experience being back on set with a whole new set of rules.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

It was, you know, lots of protocols, lots of testing, lots of protocols. Everybody working so hard to make sure that everybody was, one, safe and two, still comfortable and having a good Time. So it was very different. It wasn't the same as a normal set. Like, you're not hugging everyone. You're not seeing anybody's face for most

[Elizabeth Keener]

of the day, which is so hard, isn't it? Like, not how you just want to. I mean, we've gotten used to it now because it's been a year and a half, but it's so interesting. You so want to, like.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah. You want to connect. And it was. It was. It was. It took some adjusting, you know, I think Steven, Marty, do impressions of what it's like to be directed by someone who has a mask on and a helmet, and you can't really hear a lot of what they're saying. So you just kind of nod and

[Elizabeth Keener]

I'll get my way.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

I got that. Yeah, exactly. But. So it was. It was different, but it was. I couldn't think of a better group of people to do it with. It was. You know, as soon as we started filming scenes, it felt very alive and very normal. But it was. It was. You know, there were a lot of protocols, and everybody followed them, and it was different. But I'm glad they made it happen. I can't even believe they made this show during this time period.

[Kevin Lahn]

Is it something you got used to after a little while, like, just going through it all?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, I guess. I don't think I'll ever get used to meeting half of a person's face first, you know, like. But, yes, I got used to it. And you kind of get used to, like, taking off the mask, making sure that you don't have lines on your cheeks, like, making sure your beard isn't totally crazy, because the mask made it crazy. But I got used to it as best I could.

[Kevin Lahn]

Yeah, there you go.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

And I felt very taken care of by everyone. Everybody was. I mean, the amount of work that. Just like the PAs to John, the showrunner, to everyone in between, it's so much more work because there's a million other things to think about. So I can't. I'm so grateful that the show got made and that I got to do it.

[Kevin Lahn]

And in New York.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

And in New York, in my home.

[Elizabeth Keener]

During episode three, Martin Short's character, Oliver, goes back to his directing skills to see if he can cast the murderer based on his list of suspects. And that's when we start to really suspect. Howard.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah. I was flashing.

[Kevin Lahn]

You had, like, a flash dance.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

Cut off gray sweatshirt and.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, I loved doing that. Just because one. That sweater. That sweatshirt was a dream again, Dana.

[Kevin Lahn]

It looks comfortable.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

It Was very comfortable. I think Martin Short really liked it. He had mentioned he likes that sweater.

[Kevin Lahn]

He probably has it now.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

And it was very fun because there was like, sort of this sense. I was approaching it from a sense of it was a Real Housewives catchphrase. Like, it was sort of like this. You know, every answer was sort of this Real Housewives catchphrase. And it was amazing to be on a big, giant Broadway stage or a.

[Kevin Lahn]

So that was an actual Broadway theater and.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, well, it wasn't a Broadway theater. It was a. It was a theater. I forget where it was. It was the size of a Broadway theater, but it was really exciting to one be on a stage, since I hadn't been on a stage in a couple years. And, yeah, that was a really, really fun.

[Kevin Lahn]

When you've had theater auditions, have they ever had you lined up like that, like, on the show?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

No, no, but I don't do musicals. Maybe they do that for musicals. It's very Chorus Line. It's like what I imagine musicals.

[Kevin Lahn]

It's very Showgirls.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah. Very Showgirl. I have never done that. I have never been lined up.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Bring the ice cubes. Everyone remembers Showgirls.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, that was. It was really fun.

[Elizabeth Keener]

The show captures New York really well. We've got a Broadway audition on a huge stage with actors that are quintessentially New York.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

And also the apartments. Like, I was. I'm really jealous of my character's apartment. Not necessarily the same style of it, even though it's perfect for him.

[Kevin Lahn]

Kena was jealous of the style.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

She loves that giant. There's, like, a cat playground in the corner and, like, a little hutch with. And I think there was a cat

[Kevin Lahn]

cookie jar in the kitchen on the corner.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Was there. That's what I was going to say. I never. I didn't go into the kitchen. But what I'm most jealous of is that kitchen is enormous. I mean, the apartment is enormous compared to, like, what really happens in New York. A working actor in New York lives in right now, but the apartment, then the other apartments on the set, like, they just did a killer job. Like, they're all. So many little details. You could do a whole tour of every apartment.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah.

[Kevin Lahn]

So you were on a stage for the apartments. And. Yes, the building itself, the exterior was a location.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Yeah, that's a real building. And then the stage was. The Broadway theater was an actual theater. And the lobby of the building for episode two was an actual lobby of a building.

[Elizabeth Keener]

So to recap, here's what we know so far. We were suspicious of Howard and the murder of Tim Kono, but Howard thinks Tim may have poisoned his cat Evelyn and is planning on getting toxicology tests done on the cat body that's in the freezer. Is that enough motive to drive someone like him to kill? Or is there someone else in the building poisoning the animals? Remember, Oliver comes home to a threatening note on the door and his dog Winnie on the floor and may be poisoned. So what's our clue from Howard Morris?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

All I can say is I, I think you'll see Howard again at some point.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Maybe.

[Kevin Lahn]

Do you know who the murderer is?

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Do I know who the murderer is?

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yes. Well, you went. You had. Yeah. Not as your character is.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Oh, I, I, I, I, I plead.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Oh, we know what time it is right now.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Oh, that's my favorite.

[Elizabeth Keener]

It's time for ripping OPA open an envelope and seeing who's wrong, who's right.

[Kevin Lahn]

What do you call it?

[Elizabeth Keener]

We won't know until. Oh, it's the who done it summit. Who done it summit. G2 version.

[Kevin Lahn]

This is where we make our guess based on what we've seen so far up to episode three.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yes.

[Kevin Lahn]

Just based on what we've seen.

[Elizabeth Keener]

So they keep changing. And I wish that, you know, unfortunately, I would have loved to it to be like I knew from episode one, but they just keep changing. It's. So play along it home. Play with your friends.

[Kevin Lahn]

All right.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Okay, here we go. I'm gonna do you first. Yes.

[Kevin Lahn]

All right. So it's in a sealed envelope.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Sealed. I like to rip it open instead of just, you know, it's. Here we go. All right, K.K. let me see.

[Kevin Lahn]

Week three.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Week three. Sting.

[Kevin Lahn]

Sting.

[Elizabeth Keener]

That's a good guess. That is a good guess. I mean, it's just. They put them in your. You know what your guesses are the in your face guesses, but they are. They think about the three of them.

[Kevin Lahn]

The first one was maybe the most obvious.

[Elizabeth Keener]

The first one was Mabel. The second one was the cat guy, Howard. And now Sting.

[Kevin Lahn]

Sting.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Okay, now mine. The first one was.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

No, no one.

[Elizabeth Keener]

I did not want to be wrong. So, you know, you were wrong, though,

[Kevin Lahn]

because someone did do the potato.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Potato, potato. Okay. And then my second one was. What was my second one? Oh, my sweet bird lady. I love her. The bird on the bird lady. Okay, here we go. And. All right, this is my third one.

[Kevin Lahn]

I'm taking your envelope now. You're sealed.

[Elizabeth Keener]

I'm gonna do.

[Kevin Lahn]

No one's seen this.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Triangle, please. Ding, ding, ding.

[Kevin Lahn]

And you put Nathan Lane's son yes. So that would be Teddy, the deli guy's son.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yes.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

Who is deaf.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yes, that's who I think it is.

[Kevin Lahn]

Why do you think that?

[Elizabeth Keener]

Because of all the clues so far. So he knows about the podcast. He. He's a really old. When they say your oldest or dearest, the ones you've known for so long might be the ones that you don't know at all. So that could be. I just feel like it's. There's some things in there, and it has to be somebody who knows about the podcast.

[Kevin Lahn]

That's true. That narrows it down a bit.

[Elizabeth Keener]

That was mine.

[Kevin Lahn]

Okay, we'll see what happens.

[Michael Cyril Crichton]

We'll put it up on the board.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah. I mean, by the way, five of those guesses could be wrong. So we might be, you know, one out of six so far. We are Sleuthers. Okay. On that note, we are tataing.

[Kevin Lahn]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Right. So we want to let you know. Goodbye.

[Kevin Lahn]

We'll see you next week.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Next week we're gonna in the closet. In the closet for episode four, Episode Quattro. Episode four, quatroformage. You're so international. Thank you. Well, we're always international. Bye, folks.

[Kevin Lahn]

By

[Elizabeth Keener]

foreign.

[Kevin Lahn]

Thanks for listening to our first episode of Only Murders in the Pod, the fan podcast for Hulu's original series, Only Murders in the Building. If you liked it, which. What's not to like? Make sure to share with your friends, rate it, and subscribe.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Only Murders in the Pod is a production of Straw Hut Media. The show is hosted by Elizabeth Keener, me and Kevin Lahn.

[Kevin Lahn]

That's me.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Produced by Ryan Tillotson and William Sterling. Associate producer is Stephen Markley, music by Kyle Merritt, and big, big thanks to John Hoffman, Ari Abishe, and the entire Hulu team.

[Kevin Lahn]

See you again next week. From Keener's Closet.

[Elizabeth Keener]

Yeah, minus the moths.