S2 E10 BONUS: I Know Who Did It - LIVE REDDIT TALK

Summary

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Only Murders in the Building Official Podcast

S2 E10 BONUS: I Know Who Did It – LIVE REDDIT TALK

August 27, 2022 | Host: Michael Cyril Creighton (Howard) | Special Guest: Adina Verson (Poppy/Becky Butler)

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Episode Overview

This special bonus episode is a post-finale roundtable and fan Q&A featuring cast and crew just days after the Only Murders in the Building Season 2 finale aired. The episode centers on behind-the-scenes stories, cast reactions, and deep dives into the shocking reveal of Poppy (Becky Butler) as Bunny’s murderer. Adina Verson (Poppy/Becky) joins to candidly discuss the challenges of keeping her secret, the layers in her performance, and fan theories, along with anecdotes and fun interactions with the show's passionate Reddit community. There are lighthearted discussions, character insights, and teases for season 3—making it a treat for both devoted and casual fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Community Finale Celebrations & Fan Tributes

Timestamps: 01:00–02:18

• Fans shared elaborate themed foods: marmalade and liverwurst sandwiches (“number 14”, [01:24]), cakes shaped like hoodies with knitted needles symbolizing Bunny’s death ([01:44]).
• Quote:

  “Someone actually made the number 14 sandwich, the marmalade and liverwurst.” – Panelist [01:27]
  “I saw a cake that was a sweat—like a hoodie...with like red strawberry cherries inside, you know, for the old blood. It was amazing.” – Panelist [01:44]

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2. Adina Verson on Keeping the Murderer Secret

Timestamps: 04:21–06:43

• Adina had to conceal her character’s role as the murderer since October; described her relief after the finale aired.
• Quote:

  “I’ve been keeping it a secret since, like, October. Wow. But I was amazed at how relieved I’ve been since Tuesday... I can just breathe, sigh of relief.” – Adina Verson [04:40]

• The showrunners worked with Adina to keep the twist under wraps from even close friends and family.

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3. Portrayal of Poppy/Becky & Sympathy for the Murderer

Timestamps: 06:43–07:02

• Discussion on how Poppy was made a sympathetic character despite being a killer.
• Quote:

  “It’s weird to feel that way about a murderer. And I don’t know how I felt about portraying someone you feel for even though they’re a murderer.” – Adina Verson [06:43]

• Comparisons to iconic complex villains:

  “Well, Adina, have you heard of Silence of the Lambs? You know, we loved him.” – Panelist [07:02]

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4. Fan-driven Q&A: Clues & Sandwiches

Timestamps: 08:08–09:56

• Adina never tried nor created the famed “number 14 sandwich” but thinks it could taste good.

  “If somebody made it for me, I might try it.” – Adina Verson [08:36]

• Discussion about the matchbook clue:

  “I never discussed it with anybody...I think it was my bloody fingerprint.” – Adina Verson [09:32]

• Speculation on fan theories: makeup, paint, or blood? Adina votes “blood.”

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5. Analysis of Poppy’s Motives and Relationships

Timestamps: 10:42–11:41

• Panel debates if Poppy was in love with Kreps, or using him.

  “I don’t know if she’s in love with Kreps or using Kreps.” – Adina Verson [10:58] “When I was...being arrested...I was like, I don’t even want to look at him. Yeah. I was like, this is over, dude.” – Adina Verson [11:22]

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6. First Reactions Post-finale & Family Support

Timestamps: 12:03–13:51

• Adina’s phone lit up the morning after the finale, with Michael Cyril Creighton as the first person to reach out ([13:12]).
• Her family responded with pride (and shock!):

  “I also got a text emoji from my mom that was...her memoji with the exploding head.” – Adina Verson [13:28]

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7. What’s Next for Poppy? Prison Speculation

Timestamps: 14:38–16:13

• Playful speculation: Would Poppy be a remorseful monk, or the boss in prison? Panel suggests she’d be running things with a “microphone tattoo.”

  “I see a neck tattoo of a podcasting microphone.” – Panelist [15:19] “I feel like she’d be running things after a little, but in her calm, cool way.” – Panelist [15:15]

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8. How and When Adina Learned She Was Both the Killer and Becky Butler

Timestamps: 16:52–18:38

• Adina found out during a Zoom with showrunners, about a month prior to shooting. The Becky Butler twist was even more exciting for her than being outed as the murderer ([16:52]).

  “That was almost more exciting to me than being the murderer...Poppy is a very good liar, and so I didn’t really need to layer in Becky.” – Adina Verson [17:11]

• Reddit fan “the butler did it” theories:

  “I read that too, and I was like, oh my gosh, that is brilliant.” – Adina Verson [18:18]

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9. Adina’s Past as an Assistant (or Not) and Waitressing Tales

Timestamps: 19:15–20:21

• Adina never worked as an office assistant; she was a restaurant server. Shares quirky stories of working at restaurants:

  “One of the first restaurants I worked in...the manager was like, you—I’ll give you better shifts if you keep wearing skirts like this.” – Adina Verson [19:19]

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10. Funniest Moment of the Season According to Adina

Timestamps: 22:02–23:27

• Adina highlights Shirley MacLaine’s scene with Charles:

  “What do I know you from?...Say the thing. And he says...‘This takes the investigation into a whole new direction.’ And she goes, ‘That’s really bad.’” – Adina Verson [22:05–22:42]

• Also loves the doorman Lester’s Juilliard speech and Oliver’s realization of his acting talent ([23:06]).

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11. Fan Qs: What Happened at the Bunny & Poppy Lunch?

Timestamps: 24:06–25:54

• Adina’s take: Poppy tracked Bunny, persistently asked about the Rose Cooper painting, ordered the “Number 14” sandwich (instantly lost Bunny's respect), and got told off ([24:06]).

  “She has zero respect for me. She doesn’t know my name. From now on, she will only know me as 14 sandwich... Never contact me again.” – Adina Verson [24:17]

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12. Personal Fears (Inspired by Cinda’s Tomato Insides Fear)

Timestamps: 26:13–27:47

• Adina: Deep, almost irrational fear of sharks since childhood ([26:30]); host and panelists share theirs (clowns, heights).

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13. On-Set Dynamics: Favorite Cast Members to Work With

Timestamps: 28:24–29:14

• Adina cherished working with Tina Fey:

  “...The fact that she made me feel like her equal was, like, crazy.” – Adina Verson [28:39]

• Also loved getting scenes with Michael Cyril Creighton, her real-life friend who plays Howard ([28:39–29:22]).

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14. Adina’s Perspective on Playing the "Bad Guy"

Timestamps: 30:13–32:33

• Loved playing someone with extreme traits, but didn’t want to repeat “crazy woman” villain trope from Season 1.

  “Everybody who does something terrible is doing it because they have some sort of a wound somewhere...that hurt my heart [for Becky].” – Adina Verson [31:18]

• Draws connection between Bunny’s fate and Poppy’s journey:

  “She could have been saved with an act of kindness from Cinda or her family or the mayor or whoever.” – Adina Verson [32:33]

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15. Did Adina Suspect Her Character’s Arc?

Timestamps: 33:20–35:16

• Adina had no idea Poppy would become the murderer or turn out to be Becky Butler when she first joined the show; had even built an imaginary backstory.

  “It was fun to be like, oh, that story I made up is actually the story that Becky made up.” – Adina Verson [35:16]

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16. Why Did Poppy Reveal Her Identity to Mabel?

Timestamps: 36:03–37:40

• Adina thinks it was part of Poppy/Becky’s master plan: after being denied her promotion, she saw an opportunity to frame Cinda for murder and fraud ([36:03]).

  “I think it was really clever of her to do that, because if they hadn’t discovered the 14 sandwich, I think it would have worked.” – Adina Verson [37:32]

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17. Scenes Cut in Editing

Timestamps: 38:33–41:22

• A dramatic scene in Ep 6: Poppy (after being denied a promotion) sits at Cinda’s desk, records a personal podcast, swipes the desk, breaks pencils, and cries—ultimately cut to avoid making her seem too volatile.

  “After Cinda left...Poppy walked over to Cinda's desk and...continued her podcast...did a desk swipe and a break, and she started crying...I think it would’ve pushed Poppy over the edge to being a little too angry or volatile.” – Adina Verson [39:08–40:22]

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18. Season 3 and Final Words

Timestamps: 41:52–43:07

• Cast teases more bonus podcast content between seasons.
• Adina admits she’s “just as excited to find out what the heck is going on as you all” for season 3 ([42:34]).
• Panel speculates if the “building” in "Only Murders in the Building" could expand to the theatre from the season’s final scene ([43:04]).
• Quote:

  “Next year it’s going to be exciting. I’m curious—it’s only murders in the building, and this murder seemed to happen in a theater.” – Panelist [42:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I’ve been keeping it a secret since, like, October...I can just breathe, sigh of relief.” – Adina Verson [04:40]
• “It’s weird to feel that way about a murderer.” – Adina Verson [06:43]
• “If somebody made [the Number 14 sandwich] for me, I might try it.” – Adina Verson [08:36]
• “The butler is always the one who did it.” – Reddit user, cited by [18:07]
• “I see a neck tattoo of a podcasting microphone.” – Panelist [15:19]
• “She has zero respect for me...from now on she will only know me as 14 sandwich.” – Adina Verson [24:17]
• “She could have been saved with an act of kindness… same goes for Poppy.” – Adina Verson [32:33]
• “If they hadn’t discovered the 14 sandwich, I think it would have worked.” – Adina Verson [37:32]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:00 – Fan food/finale celebrations
• 04:21 – Adina on keeping the secret
• 06:43 – Portraying a sympathetic villain
• 08:08 – Sandwich clue discussion (number 14)
• 10:42 – Poppy’s relationship with Kreps
• 12:03 – Family/friend reactions to the reveal
• 14:38 – Poppy-in-prison speculation
• 16:52 – When Adina learned she was Becky
• 19:15 – Adina’s real-life assistant experience
• 22:02 – Adina’s pick for season’s funniest scene
• 24:06 – Filling in missing lunch scene with Bunny
• 26:13 – Cast shares personal fears
• 28:24 – Favorite coworkers/stars to share scenes with
• 30:13 – The complexity of playing a “bad guy”
• 33:20 – Did Adina suspect Poppy would be the killer?
• 36:03 – Why Poppy revealed herself to Mabel
• 38:33 – Scenes cut in editing
• 41:52 – Season 3 teases and final words

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a rich, behind-the-scenes treat that peels back the curtain on Only Murders in the Building’s dramatic Season 2 conclusion. The cast’s genuine affection for the show and each other, as well as their engagement with fans, shines through. Adina Verson provides fascinating insight into her complex portrayal of Poppy/Becky and is refreshingly candid about both the practical and emotional sides of being a central part of the whodunit twist.

Fans are left with both satisfying answers to burning questions and new mysteries to look forward to in Season 3.

Transcript

[A]

Straw hut media.

[B]

Hello. Hello everyone. We are just getting set up on our end, waiting for KK and Keener to join. And of course Adina Versan, who, for those who did not watch, is a very extra special guest this week. But just a disclaimer for anyone who has not watched the season finale, please kindly come back after you watch because we are definitely going to be talking about a lot of spoilers and it's going to spoil the whole season. So we will talk very soon. And boys, there's so much to talk about. Thanks so much for joining.

[A]

This is such an exciting day to have a Reddit talk. I'm so glad everybody's here.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So, so excited.

[D]

So much to discuss.

[B]

Oh my gosh. So much to discuss. I don't know if you all got a chance to see some of the amazing finale food that people posted.

[D]

No, like what?

[A]

Oh my.

[B]

So yeah, a lot of Redditors, they had like dips for dinner.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Someone actually made the number 14 sandwich,

[D]

the marmalade and Liverworth.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Made the sandwich.

[E]

Well, they like it.

[B]

They showed the components. So they didn't show it in sandwich form. So they have liverwurst. They had the marmalade and they had it with Triscuit. So they didn't.

[E]

Oh, triskets.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Peter didn't say it sounds good.

[E]

Not this.

[B]

Not the Triscuits.

[E]

I saw, I saw a cake that was a sweat. Like a hoodie. Did you see that was amazing.

[B]

Did you see that? Oh, I didn't see that.

[E]

Oh, it was a cake with a hoodie with like red strawberry cherries inside. You know, for the old blood. It was amazing.

[B]

I was like, wow.

[D]

Sorry, bunny.

[E]

It was pretty great. Yeah.

[B]

Did it have a. A knitting needle? Oh, yes, it had.

[E]

It had knitting needles.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

Some like yarn looking thing too.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

Two knitting needles and like red yarn.

[B]

Kind of strolled off that.

[E]

Yeah, it was.

[D]

That's hilarious.

[E]

Oh, look it up.

[B]

Are you here?

[D]

The mur.

[E]

He's the murderer.

[A]

Oh, I hope we're not giving anything away.

[B]

Oh yeah, we can do our disclaimer again. If people have not watched any season two of Only Murders in the Building or the season finale, I will.

[E]

What is wrong with you?

[B]

If you weren't waiting for 901 on the west coast as I was on Monday. Hi.

[A]

I did it. Yeah, you did.

[B]

You've done a lot of things.

[D]

Keeping busy.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Keeping busy is so right. Adina.

[E]

Thanks for coming on, Adina.

[A]

Of course. My 2 year old is with me.

[E]

That's okay.

[A]

I think she really wants to say hi.

[E]

Oh, good.

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you wanna. Zelda? Can you say hi? Can you say hello?

[C]

Hello.

[A]

This is Zelda. Zelda.

[D]

Zelda.

[B]

Hi, Zelda. Oh, my, what a fantastic name, right? Zelda.

[A]

She's. She. I have one airpod in and she has the other airpod in. Oh, my God, if it actually fits in a two year old there. Can you hear that? Can you say hi? No. Okay.

[E]

There's no saying hi, Zelda.

[A]

But it's entertaining enough and she's loving looking at all of this.

[E]

Auntie Keener. One of your favorite people ever,

[D]

Auntie Keener.

[A]

All right, well, enough about my. My toddler. She'll. She's. She'll be listening in. So does she have a question?

[E]

She had something to ask.

[B]

Adina. Is she looking at you differently since Tuesday?

[A]

She was pretty sure it was Mar.

[E]

That onesie.

[A]

That onesie, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, the little mamas. Well, how have you been since the last time we spoke with you? And how hard was it to keep everything in the last time we spoke to with you? Because I. That's my immediate thought. I was like, oh, she did such a good job of not giving anything away.

[A]

Oh, thank you. I mean, I've been keeping it a secret since, like. That's very nice. I. I've been keeping it a secret since, like, October. Wow. So I guess it's pretty easy. But, like, I'm. I was amazed at how relieved I've been since Tuesday. Oh. Like, yes.

[E]

Wait, Adina, your dad, I wanted to know, what did he say?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Don't try and fool us.

[A]

You.

[E]

We know you're the murderer. Even if you're a cute, sweet mom. Even if you're a cute, sweet mom.

[D]

We don't care.

[A]

We know. I just stole this kid off the street just to

[B]

get you on all the sympathy points.

[A]

She's a mother. But, yeah, I've had. So I've been so relieved, unexpectedly since Tuesday since. Since like, the secret is out and I can just like, breathe, I mean, sigh of relief. Yeah. I didn't realize, like, how much it was just like, kind of affecting me as like an actor just being like, yeah, I'm living a lie. Which, you know, really helped with Becky, I guess, my portrayal. I don't know if you could see the layers that I wasn't even aware of.

[D]

You saw two characters.

[B]

We saw that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It is unbelievable. I will say, I think everyone is hoping that for season three we get some sort of like, Jan connection where we still get to see you.

[D]

Silence of the Lambs.

[A]

I hope so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not the Exiles.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I hope so. Because everyone really, really wants more Poppy, more Dina. And I think that's the. The heartbreak that comes with the reveal is. Oh, my gosh. But I still oddly love her.

[D]

It's a conflicting feeling about it.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I want to see more of her.

[A]

Thank you. I mean, that's good to hear because they did make her such a, like, sympathetic or empathetic character. And it's weird to feel that way about a murderer. And I don't know how I felt about, like, portraying somebody who you feel for even though they're a murderer. But, like, yeah, I'm. I'm glad that everybody didn't just, like, turn on her.

[E]

Well, Adina, have you heard of Silence of the Lambs? You know, we loved him. We loved him. Oh, God, I did. So, you know, that explains a lot. You're in the. You're in the heart of Dina. You're in the heart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love this comment from Hannah Lem. She asks. She says, I want a spin off show of Jan and Poppy's adventures in prison.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I think it's called Orange is the New Black, but Murder is the new Black.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that would be great.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, Adina, we did announce this talk, but we weren't. We didn't put your name on it just in case people. Yes, we didn't. We didn't want to say with a, you know, to like, spark anything. But we did get a few questions from the announcement post. The first comes from that lucky fox. They were wondering if you had any involvement in the 14th sandwich. Have you tried it? And do you know, it was on the matchbook.

[A]

Oh, I did not have any involvement with the 14 sandwich as far as, like, what Bunny was saying. And also as far as, like, what the actual sandwich is.

[D]

You just order it?

[A]

I just order it. I think. I mean, I said this before. I think it sounds kind of good. I'm a chopped liver fan. I also love a marmalade, so I'd be into it. I haven't tried it. Haven't tried it. But it sounds. If somebody made it for me, I might try it.

[D]

You would try a bite?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Adina, I do think you're gonna be getting liverwurst sandwiches your way for a while. Yeah. Yeah. What. What kind of marmalade do you think would pair best with a liverwurst? What would your preferred marmalade be? Oh, you know what?

[A]

I just assumed it was like the, like, classic, like, orange marmalade with like, the, you know, isn't. Isn't what makes.

[B]

Yes, that's what I.

[D]

It has like a Smucker's orange marmalade.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like more peel.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

But there's. Yeah, there's also sort of like maybe a little more. Oh, I don't know. We can start talking about. I know I'll send you jars.

[A]

But. Yeah, so I didn't have any involvement with that, but I didn't have any qualms with it. And then the other. What was the other question was the.

[B]

Do you know what was on the matchbook?

[A]

I never discussed it with anybody. I kind of. I mean, we see it was me in the diner with Bunny, so I assume. I mean, so then I. I, you know, I'm the one that takes the matchbook. It seems really sloppy, but. But she. But she was like, you know, running out unexpectedly because Mabel came back to the. Take back to her apartment. So. I think it was blood. I think it was my bloody fingerprint.

[B]

It was bloody. Yeah. Yeah. The Internet sleuth definitely had other theories, right. Of course. They're like, it could be. Yep, exactly. Paint or makeup. But that was also trying to attach it with some of their other theories of who the murderer was. So blood definitely makes the most sense. Yeah.

[A]

I think. I think that Poppy's just really lucky that nobody tested it and that then, like, perhaps, you know, got it for her.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Poppy was lucky that she was the smartest person in the room. Basically, that's what happened. And nobody else could figure anything else.

[A]

And is that luck or is that.

[E]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Skill. Yeah.

[B]

Or I think it was also a little bit of love. Right?

[E]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

With.

[B]

Yeah, with craps.

[D]

She comes around her finger.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I don't. I don't know.

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

I mean, I don't want to, like, read too much to do it, but I don't know if she's in love

[E]

with crips or used him using crips.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But do you think he's in love with her?

[E]

Oh, gosh, yes.

[B]

I think he's definitely in love with her.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, she has him wrapped around her finger.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't want to toot my own horn, but.

[B]

Oh, you get to toot. You get to toot so much.

[D]

As long as it's a horn and not a knitting needle.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

But. Yeah, I'm. I'm curious. I mean, when I was. When we were shooting the, like, when I'm being arrested and they, like, walk me out past Krebs, who's also in handcuffs. I like, had no as, like, in character. I was like, I don't even want to look at him. Yeah. I was like, this is over, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Don't write, don't call.

[B]

Exactly. Exactly. I don't want to hear. Well, actually, you guys are going to both be in prison. I was gonna say, on the other side of the glass,

[D]

we have a collect call from.

[B]

Yeah, click.

[E]

Yeah, we're gonna send money.

[D]

I have a question for you.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Once the episode aired, who is the first person you heard from who that you've been keeping the secret from?

[A]

That's a good question. It might have been.

[D]

Did your phone start blowing up?

[A]

I. I was, like, having trouble sleeping the. The evenings, like, leading up to it coming out. Zelda, Hang on one sec. Sorry. I'm getting cute cat video compilation.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Never, never apologize. Zelda is a very welcome participant in

[E]

all of this, and that's what I do for kk. I just put him in front of a cat compilation, and he's busy for hours.

[A]

This is the first time that I'm, like, being like, sit in front of this. So, yes, I turned my phone off. I was like, I'm going to, like, be very conscious of turning my phone on in the morning. I think that first person I actually heard from was Michael Cyril Creighton, who is. Who plays Howard, who is my dear friend, and he has been keeping the secret from his husband this whole time.

[B]

And he.

[A]

They stayed up late to watch it, and he'd been. He kept misdirecting his husband because he kept being like, is it poppy? And so I think that he was the. He was the first text that I got, I think. But then I think I also got a text emoji from my mom that was, like, her memoji with, like, the exploding head.

[D]

Where did I go wrong?

[A]

And I've been getting a lot of texts from, like, my family members, being like, I'm so proud of you. And I'm like,

[E]

Well, you know, the murderer is basically the star. Really, Besides the other star. They're the one. You're the one. You shine.

[D]

You get bragging rights.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[B]

Well, also, I think that means that if you had bail, you would make it, because your family would totally crowdfund that.

[E]

Oh, that's true.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

But, you know, what do they do? They do bail on murder cases.

[B]

You know, I don't know.

[E]

I don't even think you need fail anymore.

[D]

You get a number 14 sandwich with a file in it, for sure.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Poppy can figure it out from there, I'm sure.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

What do you think Poppy will be like in prison?

[A]

I have a few, so I feel like she could go a few different ways. I feel like she could start to feel terrible about what she has done, and, like, the realization, like, really sets into reality and she becomes, like, a monk. Or I think she could, like, go, like, full Oklahoma.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And just, like, I don't know, get a neck tattoo.

[E]

I'm smarter than all of you, and I'm gonna figure something out, and you're all gonna work for me.

[B]

Right.

[D]

I feel like she'd be running things after a little, but in her calm,

[E]

cool way, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I see a next tattoo of a podcasting microphone.

[A]

Right. Right. May a tear. Don't you get, like, a tear if you,

[E]

like, you get a whole waterfall.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's like, why does Poppy have three tears?

[B]

Maybe the phone number to donate to npr.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Just, like, some idea tote bag.

[E]

And in the meantime. Oh, Krebs has a big tattoo of you on his back.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, I love her. Or it's like a Poppy tattoo that accidentally says, like, poopy or something

[B]

Wrong.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Or Poppy in, like, Chinese characters. I don't know. Just something.

[E]

Something that does not make sense.

[B]

I do want to say for the audience, if anyone does have a question or many questions for Adina, because I know we have a lot of them. I have a ton in the comments, but I. Before we get into those, do you want to remind you that we are accepting live questions? So if you would like to come up, hit that hand icon to raise your hand, and we will bring you up to ask Adina, KK and Keener a question. In the meantime, we did have a question from Icy Redrose, and her flair is hips before dips, which I think is hilarious. Icy Red says hello. Thanks for coming back. Idina. When did you first find out Poppy was Becky, and how did that impact how you played Poppy or did it at all?

[A]

I found out the same zoom conversation that John Hoffman and Jess Rosenthal had with me where they told me that I was going to be the murderer. They also, at that point, knew that I was going to be Becky Butler. And this was like, a month before we started shooting, and that was almost more exciting to me than, like, being the murderer. Yeah. I don't know. I like for a while was like, how do I layer this in? I didn't have all the details, so it was, like, hard to kind of, like, do the normal, like, actor work because I didn't know all the details. Like, I didn't quite know what the Rose Cooper part was, and I didn't know my backstory as Becky. And it did change, like, while they were writing it, while we were still filming the earlier episodes, like, the later episodes were still changing. And I ultimately decided that, like, Poppy is a very good liar, and so I didn't really need to layer in Becky. Sometimes it helped me to be like, what's my mommy? Look at that. Oh, my gosh, look at that. Sorry. It's a praying mantis with, like, beautiful wings. I never knew they had wings, but, yes, I felt like I didn't need to do so much work because the writing was so good. Kind of, like layering things in. It was just a little too much. I didn't want to be pointing at anything. Does that make sense?

[B]

Yes, it totally makes sense, and I apologize because I can't credit the person that wrote this comment. But there was a comment on Reddit that said the butler is always the one who did it.

[A]

I read that too, and I was like, oh, my gosh, that is a brilliant.

[E]

Yes, Becky Butler.

[B]

So did that. Was that a hint? Do you by any chance. No, Adina, I have.

[A]

I don't know. I didn't. It didn't occur to me until I read that on Reddit and I was like, that's, like, my favorite thing.

[E]

Wow, the writers are going to take credit for that.

[D]

I know, right?

[B]

I wish I could give the commenter wow, because it was such a spot on and simple observation and anything to,

[A]

like, compare me in any regard to Tim Curry, I will take it. Right.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, I love it. This is a fun one from BAE Bumblebees. They write I'm an assistant and related so much to your character. Idina. My question is, did your. Did you work a job like that before you became an actor?

[A]

Thank goodness it does have yellow eyes. I did not. I was one of those actors who. I feel like when you're, like, an actor starting out in New York and you have a day job, you either, like, do temp work in an office or you do babysitting or you do serving in restaurants. And I did restaurants, so. So I never had, like, that office experience experience or, like, that kind of, like, higher weird office hierarchy experience. I did have, like, creepy bosses in restaurants. One of the first restaurants I worked in, like, I was a hostess and. And I, like, wore a short skirt one day, and the manager was like, you. I'll give you better shifts if you keep wearing skirts like this. Did I wear shorter skirts? I did.

[B]

Oh, gosh. Oh.

[E]

I worked at a place called Hooters.

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[E]

Those guys. Those guys were horrible at Hooters. I can relate. Oh, yeah. All the managers. Horrible, horrible.

[D]

Were you a good waitress, Adina?

[A]

It was. I. I think I was. I. I took my time, which, like, so for the. For the, like, for the clients, the people I was serving, I think it was. It was great. But, you know, maybe some of the other servers didn't appreciate that I was so chatty, but. But I got good tips.

[E]

Yeah, exactly. Where are they now?

[D]

You probably had some demanding patrons at the restaurant.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

There's always the cinders at the restaurant.

[E]

Yeah, the cinders, yeah. Listen, guys, I'm so sorry I have to jump off, but I just want to tell everyone at Reddit and Adina and KK and my team, I love you guys. What a great season, and thank you for everything, and we had a great time, and I'm going to see you and talk to you next season. But, Dina, thank you for doing this again. And thank you, Reddit.

[A]

Thank you so much. Kynary.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Keener.

[B]

It's been such a pleasure. It's so bittersweet to be here right now, because now we know and we have so much to talk about, but it's also. We're not going to have one next week.

[E]

I know.

[B]

It becomes such a. Yeah, we look forward to it. So we can't wait to see you for season three. Thank you so much for being so wonderful and making this so fun, and thank you giving the community extra things to think about and contemplate in between episodes.

[E]

Absolutely. And we'll throw some more stuff out while we're waiting for season three, so thank you all.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Bye, Keener. Bye. Okay, Adina, another a fun question from Opunky. What did you think the funniest moment of the season was?

[A]

Ooh, that's hard.

[B]

That's actually a very tough question.

[D]

What's the first thing that pops in your head?

[A]

The first thing that pops into my head is actually Shirley MacLaine. I thought she was. Everything she did was hilarious. But the one line that I laughed for, like, a very long time was when she's meeting Charles and she's like, what do I know? You from. He's saying that she's like, oh, are you on that? You're that guy. And she's like, say. Say the thing. And he says, like, this takes the investigation into a whole new direction. And. And she goes, that's really bad.

[B]

It's so. Oh, my God. She was. She delivered that line brilliantly. I remember. Yes.

[A]

She's just. She's incredible. I didn't get to meet her, which I'm really bummed about. And you know what? The other line that I loved was in the finale when Lester is. Is, like, telling about his, like, type at Juilliard, and that then he's like, how he became a doorman afterwards. I mean, I think that whole speech is hilarious. And.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then when Oliver is like, well, that was a bummer.

[B]

I loved Oliver's realization that Lester could act. Like just the subtle facial, you know, movements.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That Martin Short had. You're like. He's, like, discovering a star.

[A]

Totally. Which I think he's gotta be in.

[B]

Yes. I was just gonna say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I hope he's in it.

[A]

Yeah. In the season three, Play Within a play.

[B]

Yes. The play within a play.

[D]

Within a podcast.

[B]

Yes, within a podcast. There is a question here that I'm not sure if you could. You can answer, but I think we can imagine it at least. And it comes from Ardent Hellion. And they want to know what happened at the lunch with Bunny and Poppy. I don't mean the sandwich, but how did the conversation go? For instance, how many times did Bunny tell Poppy to go F herself?

[A]

I. This. What I think is that I was, like, calling her and, like, waiting for her in the Arconia lobby and, like, bugging her about this Rose Cooper painting, because I was trying to do research about Rose Cooper. I was fascinated with her because she had been disappeared and mysteriously. And I felt a kinship to her. And I think I kept bothering her about the painting. She probably for long enough, I suspect, for Bunny to have gotten a. Like, a replica made. And. And. And so I think that maybe finally she was like, what is that kitty doing? Maybe I knew that she went to this diner a lot, and maybe I was, like, waiting outside for her one day, and she was like, fine, come in. I'll talk with you. And so I think I, like, sat down with her and probably started bugging her about the painting again, trying to get details, and she did not like me. I ordered this sandwich that sounded really delicious, which immediately. She has zero respect for me. She doesn't know my name. From now on, she will Only know me as 14 sandwich. And I think she's like, leave me alone. Never contact me again. And she storms out. That's what I think happened.

[B]

I love it. Thank you for filling in those gaps, because I know that there's just a lot of questions about those conversations and little interactions that led up to the knitting needle and the knife.

[D]

And just hearing that answer, I wouldn't put it past Poppy to kind of, like, trail bunny for the day and see that she's a creature of habit and that she has lunch at the Pickle diner every. And that was her opening.

[A]

Yeah, totally. And I. And I also feel like that might be part of the. How I figured out the passageways is by, like, if I was tracking her, I could see that she was not going in and out through the front door.

[D]

Taking the secret elevator.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

And then who knows? I feel like Poppy's. I wouldn't put a pastor to go to the library and know how to deal with microfiche.

[D]

The blueprints.

[B]

Yeah. These schematics don't match.

[D]

What's there. Now there's a tunnel.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, this is a fun question from Hannah Lemp. And you can both answer. Do you guys have any unusual fears? Like Cinda's fear of tomato insides in slow motion?

[A]

I have a deep, deep. This is not a weird. I don't think it's a weird fear. I have a deep fear of sharks. Like, so much so that, like, I grew up in the Midwest in, like, a landlocked area, and I was in therapy like a young child because I couldn't sleep, because I would, like, wake up screaming about sharks. I think I was killed by a shark in a past life. But, like, I. It is so, like, deeply ingrained that it's. It seems absurd in the way that my body reacts to it. I don't think that's, like, crazy. Sharks are scary.

[B]

Yeah. I think universally spear will eat you.

[A]

Right, right. But, like, I don't live, you know, in Australia, and I'm not, like, a sailor. I'm not looking to take a ship around the bottom of South Africa.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[D]

Would you swim in the ocean today?

[A]

I swim in the ocean now and then.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So you've. You've come a long ways.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That's a huge step.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, you know, I'm. I'm, like, definitely looking for sharks if I go in the ocean. If I. If I go up to my ankles.

[D]

Small sharks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

KK do you have an unusual fear for Me.

[D]

Oh, me. Unusual fear. I think when I was younger, I. Well, I wouldn't call it a fear, but I didn't like clowns, which I think is a pretty common thing. But no, no, nothing unusual. I'm not crazy about heights.

[B]

Yeah. These are both very, I think, valid and. And shared fears.

[D]

Building or get eaten by a shark.

[B]

So, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's so creepy.

[B]

Another somewhat difficult question for you, Adina, from who, Adi? Who is your favorite person to work with, and who are you most excited to work with?

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

I know. That's a hard one.

[D]

Embarrassment of riches.

[B]

I know. It is an embarrassment of riches.

[A]

I mean, like, every single person, literally. I. I mean, I was so excited to be able to work so closely with Tina Fey, and she's, like, such a lovely person. And to, like, the fact that she, like, made me feel like her equal was, like, crazy. Yeah. Just to feel, like, safe and, like, not paralyzed while being in a scene with her. It was cool. And then if I did feel a little paralyzed, I could use it. I was also just, like, super excited to work with Michael. Cyril Creighton, who plays Howard. He's a dear friend. We've never gotten to work together before, and we were so excited to both be in the killer reveal party. And when I sneeze, he says, bless you. And I was like. We were like, we have a line. We have, like, an interaction.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing. Lots of people. Huge fans of his fainting. Huge, huge fan.

[A]

I mean, what is anything better?

[D]

Only one was real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were all like, which one?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, I think he's lying. I think he's still trying to upstage Lester.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

Same face.

[A]

Look at that.

[B]

Pangolin 36 is on. Do you have a question? If so, feel free to unmute Pangolin. Hi, everyone.

[A]

Thanks for having me. Athena, thanks for being here with all of us. My question would be, what was your favorite part about playing, like, the bad guy? You know, like, the bunny's murderer. Like, the murderer character that all of us just have come to. To love so much. Like, how did you, like, play into that? Yeah, I. I mean, honestly, I think that when I was. I really love playing, like, extreme characters. And so I think when I first was thinking, like, murderer, I was like, she's crazy, and I get to be crazy. But then I was like, it's not a good idea to have the murderer in season one be, like, a crazy woman, and then the murderer in season two be a crazy woman. That seems like a bad social message. To send. And so I think that's why I was initially excited, but then once I was like, poppy's not crazy. I was excited to kind of show her humanity, which, like, did feel conflicted, but to be like, everybody who does something terrible is doing it because they. They have some sort of a wound somewhere, and to kind of be able to. To be. To play Becky. And, like, to me, that was, like, one of my favorite parts was when I got, like, the little montage of. Of the Becky scenes and, like, shooting. Shooting them. And I just feel like I learned so much about her, and. And it just hurt my heart to think of this, like, this little. Little sweet Becky Butler.

[D]

She had a tough life.

[A]

Yeah. And, I mean, I think that they wrote it originally that it was, like, a little tougher, and so I kind of like that. They, like, made it seem like not a great life, but not like, you know, she wasn't. It could be. Could have been a lot worse. Could have been worse. Yeah. Yeah. So it was interesting in the edit to see, like, oh, like, they actually didn't make it that terrible, but it's just. She's just unhappy. She's just an unhappy person without joy in her life.

[B]

I think it also makes her super relatable. I think, like, a lot of people felt, you know, different. Varying degrees of that, you know, of, like, being in a bad situation and, like, seeing her take matters into her own hands, albeit very extreme.

[A]

Not recommended.

[B]

Not recommended, but definitely, like, the writers, the acting. You all do such an amazing job of finding those. Those touch points and making it relatable, even though, once again, albeit it extremely.

[A]

Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I. I think. I. I think I'd said this before, but it, like, really struck me in the episode three when it's like, the last day of Bunny Folger, and at the end, they're like, we didn't kill her, but we could have saved her with an act of kindness. And I really feel like the same goes for Poppy that, like, she could have been saved with an act of kindness from Cinda or her family or the mayor or whoever. Like, it kind of goes both ways.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Thank you for such a wonderful answer. And thank you, Pangolin 36.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure, and I'm looking forward to season three.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

All right, we have Retro revolve on stage, if you'd like to ask your question. Hello.

[C]

I figured it out. So good to be here and talk with you guys. My question is For Poppy's actress. Sorry, I'm not good with actor names. When you first started on, did you first see your character going down the path as the murderer?

[A]

First of all, no worries about my name. I'm really bad with names too. When I started, like, in season one, I have no idea. Absolutely not. I was like, I have one scene with these amazing people. My life has changed. And then the, you know, and then I got, like, another scene that I was like, does this mean I'm in season two? And then. And then when I found out before we started shooting. Yeah. Actually, can you repeat your question?

[C]

No, you pretty much answered it. Just wanted to see, like, if you ever foresaw your. Your character going down as, like, oh, I'm going to like. It just seems like such a twist that I didn't really see from season one. I think a lot of people talked about that on the forums of, like, oh, wow. They really t. Tied back to the Cinda's podcast All's not okay in Oklahoma. And I never saw Becky Butler, the person who went missing, as being the murderer.

[B]

So wanted to know you, what you

[C]

foresaw your character doing or if you ever first saw your character becoming the bad guy. Also love that you're with your daughter. Power to the moms.

[A]

I'm here with my son as well. Thank you.

[B]

Mine just woke up from a nap. Power solidarity.

[A]

Yeah, I see all of you. Yeah, I think I, I. I wouldn't have ever suspected it. And it was funny because I did have, like, kind of like a Brooklyn, NYU grad, like, backstory for Poppy from season one that I was just like, who is this person? And. And then it was fun to, like, be like, oh, that. That story I made up is actually the story that Becky made up.

[B]

All right, amazing. Thank you so much. Retro evolve. Do you have any more questions?

[A]

I'm good.

[C]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Thank you, Adina. I do want to do a time check just to make sure, because we do have so many questions in the comments, and I don't know if we're gonna be able to get through all of them.

[D]

I have about five minutes before I need to hop off.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

And I should probably get my kiddo in the bath.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But maybe a couple more questions.

[B]

You got it. It's why we wanted to do the time check, and we just so appreciate you all just being here at all.

[A]

We just, of course.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. This question comes from Acceptable Pizza. It's a little. It's, once again, a little bit more of what's the word? Imaginative question. But they ask Adina, why do you think Poppy revealed her identity to Mabel?

[A]

Oh, I think. I think that originally I was, you know, with the. With the whole Bunny murder. The plan was to set up. Set it up to frame the trio. And then I think as soon as I asked for a promotion and she was so incredibly rude about it, I saw the opportunity that I could frame Cinda not only for all is not okay being a fraud, but also I could frame her, I think, for the murder of Bunny. And so I think in a very clever way, Becky decided to reveal herself to Mabel to seem like a victim. Because if Cinda had known that I was Becky, then I think that she, you know, that would be a huge. Like, that would be her downfall. Daddy's back. And so I think that it was just like a chain, a turn. Um, yeah, Daddy went to the doctor that. He went to the chiropractor. Not that anybody needs to know that, but that's where he was.

[B]

No, we love these details. We live for these details. You're in perfect forum for that.

[A]

But yeah, so I think that. I think that her. Her desire changed as to what her. Her master plan was. And so I think that. That I think it was really clever of her to do that because I think that it could. If they hadn't discovered the 14 sandwich, I think it would have worked. I think that Cinda would have been framed for Bunny's murder. And for falsifying all is not okay.

[D]

A twofer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And also another reason why I think that she doesn't actually care about creps is because Kreps would have totally been thrown under the bus.

[B]

So true. So true.

[D]

Planting the evidence. Taking the evidence.

[B]

Yeah, I love it.

[D]

So many layers.

[B]

So many layers. Oh, my gosh, I love that.

[A]

This person.

[B]

Okay, substantial bank 5559, who's flair is Dramatic Yodel Shop, which Reddit discovered. If you turn on the captions while watching during the end credits, during that amazing rendition of the theme song, through yodeling, it just says dramatic Yodel Shop as the caption. So that is this person's flair. And the question is, did you shoot any memorable scenes that in the editing process got cut?

[D]

Oh, that's a good one.

[A]

Oh, actually, yes. In episode six, the one that Poppy narrates, there was in the scene when you need to go peeps on the potty. Okay, well, there you go.

[B]

Good job, Zelda. That is like. That is major.

[A]

She's making it happen.

[B]

Play this at her wedding, by the way. Adina.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So at the. The scene when I. When I'm like, hey, did you get to think about that promotion? And she's like, you made, like, you made everybody feel awkward. Like, never be too good at a job you don't want. There was more to that scene. So. Yeah. So after Cinda left and then Poppy walked over to Cinda's desk and, like, chose to sit down in her desk and. And use the microphone and continue her podcast that she had started earlier. And. But it was like, I don't even remember what the text was, but it was something similar to, like, to how it starts in the beginning, where it's like, how. How do you lie to yourself? Or whatever. And then Poppy, like, broke down and, like, did a. Did, like, a desk swipe. Like, a dramatic desk swipe and a break, and she started crying. And so then next time you see her when she's calling Mabel, then you see that, like, she also, like, the pencils are broken and the. The microphone is knocked over. But they cut the second half of that scene, I think, for the best because I think it would have pushed Poppy over the edge to being, like, a little too angry or volatile.

[D]

Her tell her tell.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, there are a lot of people, of course, going back to watch to see if there were any tells, and a lot of people are. Are bringing up the broken pencils.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And they're like. That was. That was a red flag, everybody.

[A]

Totally. There was one take, that of the me calling Mabel where there was, like, this flower arrangement that I didn't realize was, like, real flowers. I just assumed because it's a set, that they were, like, fake flowers, but it was this beautiful real flower arrangement. And I just, like, while pacing, talking to her, I like, pulled one of the flowers out and then right on, like, a punctuation of a line. I, like, popped the head of the flower off, and it, like, flew up and then landed on the desk. And I was like, I could not have done that, like, on purpose. And they didn't use the take, probably because it looked so perfect.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Too perfect.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It would have been a dead giveaway.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Well, thank you so much again, Adina, for coming here and multitasking and being such a super mom.

[D]

Yeah, thank you.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. It's such goals. And KK Straw hat. Thank you so much for delighting us every week with guests and also with the whodunit summit and your podcast.

[A]

Thank you so much. And also, you guys can Listen to this week's episode with Adina and also with John Hoffman, the showrunner, co creator and also the co writer of the season finale, as well as Mateo and Rob who co wrote the season finale with John. And we'll have some bonus content, including us. We went to the Pop up over the weekend in New York, so there's a bunch of really great content coming up in the break as we wait for season three. So. And also this week's episode is really,

[B]

really good, so I recommend checking it out.

[A]

You can hear more from Adina there.

[B]

Amazing. Well, thank you all so very much. I mean, KK Idina, are there any final words until season three that you want to say?

[A]

I am just as excited to find out what the heck is going on as you all. I have no clues yet, but I will be texting people who I know are in the writers room and being like, hey, how's it going?

[D]

Something to run by ya.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Will it be a collect call?

[A]

No.

[B]

I'm kidding.

[A]

No.

[D]

Next year it's going to be exciting. I'm curious if so it's only murders in the building and this murder seemed to happen in a theater.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

So that's something to think about.

[B]

Very much so. Very much so. Oh, well, thank you all so much again. Have a lovely rest of your day. Have a lovely rest of the weeks leading up to season three until we meet again.

[D]

Thank you so much.

[B]

We'll be here waiting. Thanks everyone for joining for all these weeks and for all of your wonderful questions and your sleuthing.

[D]

Yes, thank you so much.

[B]

Yay. Thanks so much. Until next time, everybody.

[D]

Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.