Only Murders in the Building Official Podcast
Season 4, Episode 1: "Once Upon a Time in the West"
Release Date: August 28, 2024
Host: Michael Cyril Creighton (Howard), with Ryan Tillotson and Maggie Bowles
Guests: John Hoffman (Showrunner, Co-Creator, Director/Co-Writer Ep1), Joshua Allen Griffith (Co-Writer Ep1)
Episode Overview
The Season 4 premiere of the Only Murders in the Building Official Podcast dives into the making and thematic layers of the latest TV season opener, "Once Upon a Time in the West." Hosts Maggie and Ryan are joined by showrunner John Hoffman and co-writer Joshua Allen Griffith for an insider discussion on the episode’s emotional arc, narrative surprises, and the show’s temporary LA detour. The episode is packed with behind-the-scenes insights, playful banter, and fan theory highlights from the Only Murders subreddit.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Season 4 Approach: Whose Season Is It?
- Who Does This Season Belong To?
Each prior season focused on a main character (Mabel, Charles, Oliver). Hoffman explains:
John Hoffman [04:40]:
“There's a natural lean in for Charles because of the victim at the end of season three. And yet we were very conscious … to lean into all three and their particular situations. ... The trio [is] working this mystery together throughout the season. In sort of half protection mode because they weren't sure who the intended target was.” - The show balances comedy and drama by placing the trio in emotional danger while layering in Hollywood-level hijinks (film adaptation of their podcast).
2. New Additions & Hollywood Detour
- LA Filming Adventure
The main cast is whisked off to LA, prompting logistical headaches and exciting opportunities. John Hoffman [07:52]:
“I was directing the first two episodes … you could only have [three planned days in LA], then we all had to head back and start shooting in New York.” - Molly Shannon as Bev Mellon
Bev, an energetic movie producer, jumpstarts the plot to adapt the trio’s podcast into a film.
John Hoffman [05:41]:
"The chance to get to work with [Molly Shannon] again was like the greatest thrill… She just knocks it out of the park."
3. Bold Narrative Choices & Reflections
- The Home Movies Opener:
The episode opens on actual childhood footage of the leads, connecting to the season’s central motif of self-examination and reflection.
John Hoffman [13:24]:
“It just felt like the ones that popped... matched up with the script. ... It's a whole season of reflecting upon what you've done and who you are now.” - Theme of Dopplegangers & Moving Images:
The season deals with representations—movie versions of themselves, doubles, and being seen in new ways.
John Hoffman [14:18]:
“The entire season was written thinking in those terms: film, reflections of yourself, doppelgangers. ... This is a season of asking, is that who I used to be? Or who I want to be?”
4. Episode 1: Recap & On-Set Anectodes
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Plot Summary
[02:02-03:54]- The trio resumes their podcast, searches for missing Saz, and is scouted for a Hollywood film adaptation (with stars Eugene Levy, Zach Galifianakis, and Eva Longoria as their "movie selves").
- The mystery of Saz’s disappearance deepens, culminating in the grim discovery of her ashes and prosthetics in the incinerator.
- Hilarious casting quirks introduce “the brothers sisters,” new directors for the film within the show.
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Meryl Streep’s Grand Entrance as Loretta
[10:07]
Maggie Bowles: “Another thing about that party, when Meryl Streep walks in in that black gown, I was like—”
John Hoffman: “It was a slay entrance and that's what we were looking for. ... There she was looking like that and it kind of catches you breathless.”
Production shot these scenes into the late hours, “till a good two or three in the morning.” [11:02]
5. Mystery Mechanics & Writers’ Room
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The “Murder Board”
Joshua Allen Griffith describes the complex organization of the writers’ room, complete with boards tracking each character’s emotional journey and all potential red herrings.
Griffith [18:24]:
“It gets ‘Beautiful Mind’ very quick.” -
Handling Saz’s Body & Emotional Stakes
The decision not to have the trio discover Saz’s body directly was made to preserve emotional tone and leverage Steve Martin’s comedy skills for the “ashes” sequence.
Griffith [26:17]:
“We wanted to give Steve Martin the opportunity to use his physical comedy genius in a way that was both funny and mournful … If he happened upon her body in the flesh, [that] wouldn’t have been possible.” -
Practical Magic: The Bullet Hole Whistle
The eerie whistling sound in Charles’ apartment is actually Griffith himself:
Griffith [28:32]:
“It’s my mouth making that noise. ... I was simultaneously proud and a little let down … but yeah, that’s me.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On the “Brothers Sisters” Joke’s Origin:
John Hoffman [29:55]:
“I have a weakness for a really dumb joke… Pete Swanson in the writers room pitched it… ‘What if their last name is the Brothers, but they’re known as the Brothers Sisters?’ … I’m in love with it.” - On the Sergio Leone Homage:
Griffith [24:19]:
“We were intrigued by the notion of cinematic storytelling at its most fundamental… to tell a story with images without words… so much of what the season is about is the moving image.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Recap of Episode 1 "Once Upon a Time in the West": [02:02-03:54]
- Whose Season Is Season 4?: [04:25-05:24]
- On Working With Molly Shannon: [05:41-06:13]
- Filming in LA, Production Drama: [07:39-10:03]
- Meryl Streep’s Entrance at the Party: [10:07-11:13]
- On the Home Movies Opener and Season Theme: [13:09-16:44]
- Inside the Writers’ Room: The Murder Boards: [18:18-19:30]
- Developing the Brothers Sisters: [20:00-21:46, 29:37-30:49]
- Decision Not to Show Saz’s Body: [26:17-27:42, 32:18-33:20]
- Behind the Bullet Hole Whistle: [27:52-28:50]
- Fan Theories from Reddit (Hannah): [37:25-41:28]
Fan Theories & Community Highlights
- Reddit moderator Hannah shares wild speculation, including:
- Was Saz the target or was Charles? Or even Scott Bakula?
- Theory that Saz was protecting Charles and took the bullet for him [37:25-41:28]
- Open excitement for the return of fan-favorite characters Detective Williams and Meryl Streep’s Loretta.
Tone and Takeaways
The tone is irreverent, insider-y, and brimming with affection between hosts and guests. Hoffman and Griffith delight in creative absurdities (the brothers sisters), unscripted production chaos, and the ongoing evolution of their beloved Arconia trio. Underneath the humor lies a focus on self-reflection, identity, and the emotional toll of murder mysteries—both real and fictional.
John Hoffman [34:24]:
“I hope that people really like that we’re back to a mystery-based story that’s emotionally connected to the trio in a way that… is big and right for us… and across the season is always a good thing.”
Summary
The official podcast’s first episode of Season 4 offers an engrossing deep-dive into "Once Upon a Time in the West," balancing production anecdotes with creative philosophy, spotlighting standout moments (Meryl Streep’s entrance, the brothers sisters gag, Saz’s missing body), the LA storyline, and the enduring chemistry of the central trio. Fan theories and subreddit energy demonstrate the passionate community awaiting more twists, hearts, and laughs—with or without an infinity pool nearby.
