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Abby and Patrick read the shortest, strangest, and arguably saddest entry in the Studies on Hysteria – the case of “Katharina.” This case history sees Freud on Alpine vacation and approached by a local girl suffering a shortness of breath and episodes of anxiety, symptoms that have nothing to with altitude and everything to do with sordid goings-on in her family. Proceeding in ad-hoc, hypnosis-free dialogue, Freud traces the roots of Katharina’s distress back to her witnessing – and suffering – incestuous transgressions and public scandal. Yet certain details of Katharina’s story remained ambiguous and controversial for decades. Abby and Patrick unpack the story of Katharina as Freud initially presented it, as he dramatically revised it thirty years later, and as later excavated by psychoanalytic historians. Between the two versions of Katharina, and between these and the actual biography of the real-life Aurelia Kronich, Abby and Patrick grapple with challenging questions about trauma, memory, and abuse; the limits of what we can ever know, clinically and historically; what is or isn’t speakable, and how that troubles our ideas about validation, recognition, action, healing, and more.

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