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Welcome to the Otherworld, Patreon. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. This bonus episode is a very unique one that was left unfinished for almost a year while I patiently waited and hoped that we would one day get some closure. It comes from a woman named Mia who lives in New York City. She grew up Russian Orthodox, which I think adds an interesting element to this whole episode, even though it's about something else completely. It's about a guy that Mia dated a few years ago that we're gonna call James. She says that James is a very quiet and mysterious guy. He works in tech but has almost no presence online at all. That's something I could verify myself. I'd spent a lot of time looking this guy up, or least trying to. Mia describes him as very sensitive to the supernatural, perhaps even psychic in ways that I think you'll understand once you hear the story. And very early into dating, James told her that sometimes he has the same dream as the person he sleeps next to. She wasn't sure exactly what he meant by that until it ended up happening. Things get even stranger from there. This is a very weird story. Let Mia share it for herself. This episode is called Dream Stealer, and you're listening to the Otherworld, Patreon.
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James and I met on Tinder. When I first saw his profile, I thought he looked really mysterious. Like, not like he had obscured photos. Just something about him was hard to read. And I kind of pride myself on being good at reading people. And I couldn't. I couldn't really get a feel for him, but he seemed kind and very cute. So we matched, and it pretty quickly turned into us setting an actual date within the next two days. We met up at a park in between us, so. So I got there first, and I was sitting in a gazebo, and I just see this man and entirely black with black hair. And he just had this, like, kind of magnetic presence walking towards me. And, you know, I'd seen his photo online, but even if I hadn't, I would have been like, oh, that's. That's James. He just really. He stands out in a crowd. We met up, and immediately there was a connection. Like, really immediate. Not even like, oh, I really like him. Just, like, I was so intrigued. I'd like to say he felt the same way. I guess he did, because we spent the next 36 hours together or something, just talking. We ended up just in this, like, bubble of the two of us in a way that, you know when you meet someone and you like them and you're like, you know, like your own world. It was like that on steroids. Any space that the two of us were in just felt really private. That was all very quick and very intense. And it sort of would continue to escalate throughout the entirety of our relationship. This. This feeling of being in a separate world, like, time just moved differently. I would sometimes leave his apartment and I would just stand outside and say to myself, okay, my name is Mia. I live in Brooklyn, New York. It is the year 2021. Like, I would have to really bring myself back to my center. And we would often joke like, that we were like the sun and moon and that. Like, I'm super extroverted, really bubbly, really loud, extremely chaotic. And he is hyper organized, hyper vigilant. Everything is where it should be. No word is said that is not intentional. And his apartment is dark. He has plants that love the dark. And he would often say, he's Pisces, I'm an Aries. And we would sort of come into conflict a lot in those qualities, but also, it's what attracted us to each other and that, like, we both had qualities, qualities that the other person did not possess. I would say in terms of, like, access to the mystical or just, like, in our daily life, I may be at a 5 and that I'm aware that it's there, but it doesn't, like, impact my daily life. He's probably operating at, like, a nine at any given time. And whenever we were together, I would move from like a 5 to about an 8, and he would move from a 9 to, like a 15. So something about each other really brought out the weird in ways that felt kind of scary sometimes and that we couldn't always control. But, you know, at least that first night, we were just having a really good time getting to know each other. And when we went to bed that night, he casually turned to me and said, hey, just so you know, I occasionally have the dreams of the people that I sleep next to. Just wanted to let you know. And I'm sort of looking at him because we just had these crazy conversations about, like, the universe and, like, astrology and just, you know, we've gotten. We'd covered a lot of weird topics, but this, even for us, this was pretty out of clear blue sky. And I just said, okay, good night. Because, like, I didn't believe him. I did not believe him. Like, what does he mean? He has people's dreams. Okay. But I really didn't want to think about it too much because if I thought about it, then like, does that mean that I think he's lying to me? Does that mean that I think he thinks he's telling the truth? Like, I just really didn't even want to go there. So that first night, we go to sleep, we wake up, and in the morning, I remember, like, making fun of him. I was like, oh, did you have my dream last night? And he said, no, but it doesn't happen all the time. You know, it'll. It'll happen. And I just sort of rolled my eyes, like, okay. So that first night, nothing happened. I would say, second night, same thing, nothing happened. And then the third night that I stayed over, he said the same thing. He said, just to remind you I might have your dream tonight. And my response was the same, like, okay, weirdo, good night. We went to sleep. And I don't recall having any dreams that night. I don't always recall my dreams, but I usually remember having a dream. I didn't remember having any dreams that night. And the next morning, we're sitting in his living room, like, drinking coffee. And I remember he's making breakfast. And as I'm sitting on the couch, he says to me, hey, you know, I had the strangest dream last night. And so I was like, oh, really? And he starts describing, like, a hallway. He says that he. The dream starts, and he's in a hallway in his really old mansion. And, like, the walls where it had this old, like, Victorian, burgundy, like, I guess, wallpaper texture. It's a long hallway with a lot of, like, long wooden doors. And there was this woman. This woman was, like, very tall, and she was in a black dress, and she had, like, this gray bun. And I stop him, and I'm like, james, that's my dream. And he just looks at me and he says, yeah, I know. At which point I fully lose my mind. Because this was not just any dream that he could have had. This was my childhood nightmare that I have had ever since I was about five years old and, like, had it monthly. Like, this dream has followed me my entire life, and I've never told anybody about it. I certainly wouldn't have told some guy that I went on three dates with. And I'm not a sleep talker. Like, I didn't. He would not know this dream. And yet he is telling me about the most intimate nightmare that I have ever had. And I start quizzing him on it. I'm like, okay, well, then what were on the walls? Like, what was on the ceiling? Like, asking all these things. And on the wall, there were A lot. A series of portraits, and they were of people and animals. And I'm not giving. Leading him with any information. I'm not like, well, what kind of, like, pictures were they? He, of his own volition, was like, oh, yeah, there were, like, portraits of people. And next to the people, like, in the other portraits, there were an. And on both sides of the hallway, there are these long locked doors. He is just giving so many details that perfectly describe my dream. And at a certain point, I just stop and ask him, like, well, well, were you scared? Because in my dream, this woman was like a very evil figure. Was like malicious person that was trying to harm me. He said no, because I knew it wasn't my dream. And then he said something somehow even weirder, which is that when he showed up in the dream, he was with other people that he didn't recognize and that they were there to fix it. And that's all he knew. He just knew that they were there to fix it. So he wasn't scared of her because she wasn't ever going to harm him. And I wasn't there. And again, I didn't have that dream that night. I just sort of stared at him, shocked. And then I have never had that dream again. And I had had this dream at least once a month since I was 5 years old.
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That is so weird.
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It's so weird. We'd been dating for about two weeks at this point. So I didn't press it, I think, because I was so shocked and I'm a little annoyed. Like, I wish I'd really been like, okay, well, how many other people's dreams have you had? Like, I wanted. I really wish I'd, like, gotten as much information as I could have, but I was just so shocked that after breakfast, I think I left. I don't even remember what we talked about. I'm sure I was, like, in shock. I remember I got outside and I just thought to myself, like, what have I gotten myself into?
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