Otherworld: Episode 123 – The Story of The Integratron

Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host: Jack Wagner

Introduction

In Episode 123 of Otherworld, host Jack Wagner delves deep into the enigmatic history of the Integratron, a unique structure nestled in the high desert of Southern California. This episode unravels the story of George Van Tassel, the visionary aerospace engineer behind the Integratron, and explores the building's connections to extraterrestrial influences and paranormal experiences.

Meeting the Expert: Daniel Paul [06:04]

Jack welcomes Daniel Paul, an architectural historian and the author of the National Register of Historic Places landmark application for the Integratron.

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Jack Wagner: “Daniel, welcome to the show.”
[06:04]

Daniel Paul's Background [06:08 - 07:26]:
Daniel explains his role as an architectural historian, detailing his experience with landmark applications, including the Integratron's designation. His expertise provides a solid foundation for understanding the Integratron's architectural and historical significance.

Understanding the Integratron [07:38 - 43:11]

What is the Integratron? [07:38 - 10:20]:
Daniel describes the Integratron as a large, hemispherical dome structure located in Landers, near Joshua Tree. Originally named the College of Universal Wisdom Research Laboratory, it was envisioned as a life extension machine. The building's design, featuring a 43-foot diameter dome and 64 metal rods, resembles something straight out of 1950s science fiction.

Acoustics and Current Use [10:43 - 13:15]:
Jack inquires about the Integratron's renowned acoustics. Daniel confirms that the dome acts as a whispering gallery, creating remarkable sound effects. Today, it hosts sound baths where crystal bowls produce frequencies that resonate throughout the structure, sometimes eliciting personal flashbacks for participants.

Connection to Extraterrestrial Influences [13:15 - 25:25]:
Jack recounts a story from a previous episode about David, a software engineer who experienced a UFO sighting accompanied by a resonant sound. Years later, during a sound bath at the Integratron, David heard a similar sound, leading him to discover the building's extraterrestrial connections.

George Van Tassel and Solgonda [15:51 - 25:25]:
Daniel provides a comprehensive background on George Van Tassel, detailing his early life, aerospace career, and transformative encounter with an extraterrestrial named Solgonda on August 24, 1953. This visitation inspired Van Tassel to build the Integratron based on the instructions received. Van Tassel's vision intertwined engineering and spirituality, aiming to extend human life through electrical frequencies.

Construction and Purpose [29:46 - 43:11]:
The Integratron's construction began in 1958 and was completed by 1960. Daniel explains that the building was engineered entirely from wood, without metal, to prevent interference with the intended frequencies for life extension. Van Tassel's design included a Wimshurst apparatus to generate and modulate electricity for therapeutic purposes.

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Daniel Paul: “The Integratron was intended as a life extension machine primarily… about integration between electricity and biology.”
[42:30]

The Integratron After Van Tassel [43:19 - 52:05]

Incomplete Vision and Van Tassel's Death [43:19 - 46:53]:
Despite significant progress, the Integratron was never fully operational during Van Tassel’s lifetime. He passed away in 1978 due to a heart attack, leaving the project incomplete. Speculations arose about the cause of his death, with some wondering if it was related to his experiments.

Post-Van Tassel Era [46:53 - 48:45]:
After Van Tassel’s death, the Integratron faced uncertain futures, including an attempted transformation into a nightclub. Ownership changed hands, and the building remained dormant for years until the Carl sisters acquired it around 2000. Their dedication to preserving the structure led to its current status as a center for sound baths and spiritual gatherings.

Preservation Efforts [51:58 - 56:10]:
Daniel shares a personal anecdote about meeting Van Tassel’s son-in-law, Daniel Boone, highlighting the ongoing legacy and mysteries surrounding the Integratron. He emphasizes the Carl sisters' role in maintaining the building and their contributions to its new life as a hub for acoustic healing.

Behind the Scenes: Preserving the Archive [56:10 - End]

After the recorded interview, Jack reveals a personal side quest to help Don McKinney, the custodian of George Van Tassel’s extensive archive, which includes over 70 reel-to-reel tapes, photographs, and blueprints. Jack and his team assisted Don in digitizing these invaluable materials, ensuring the preservation of the Integratron’s rich history. This endeavor not only aids in safeguarding paranormal history but also aims to secure a permanent museum home for the collection.

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Jack Wagner: “This unit was so beautiful and so magical for so many people, but that is totally peripheral to what he intended.”
[52:05]

Conclusion

Episode 123 of Otherworld offers an in-depth exploration of the Integratron, weaving together architectural history, extraterrestrial encounters, and personal stories. Through the expertise of Daniel Paul and Jack Wagner’s investigative journey, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of this mysterious structure and its enduring legacy in the realm of the paranormal.

Notable Quotes

• Jack Wagner: “The integratron was intended as the machine... interesting territories by connecting electricity with spirituality.”
  [43:35]

• Daniel Paul: “The way I see the potential for other life to be out there, I'm more... perhaps that becomes more what we equivocate to consciousness as humans.”
  [54:18]

• Jack Wagner: “I started out looking for answers about David's experience out in Ojai... Or perhaps the Integratron wasn't quite done with me.”
  [56:04]

For listeners eager to delve deeper, additional content including a mini-documentary and extended interviews are available exclusively on the podcast’s Patreon page.