Episode Overview

Episode Title: Here For You [Patreon Preview]
Podcast: Otherworld
Host: Jack Wagner
Date: February 19, 2026

This bonus episode of Otherworld features a story from Liz, a woman who had a life-changing and highly unusual paranormal experience during a healing meditation. The conversation explores Liz’s journey through off-grid living, her experiments in psychic development, and an unexplainable moment that left a powerful impact on both her and a stranger. Host Jack Wagner contextualizes Liz’s experience within the broader theme of unexplainable encounters and the ways such moments can transform beliefs and lives.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Liz’s Background and Journey into Meditation and Psychic Studies

• Woofing & Off-Grid Living:

  • Liz recounts her two-year adventure after college, where she traveled the U.S. through WWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms), working on organic farms in exchange for food, lodging, and knowledge.
  • She aimed to live sustainably, inspired by “Into the Wild,” but eventually yearned for community after realizing that true impact goes beyond self-sufficiency.

    “I bit off a bit more than I could chew, and I learned a lot along the way. And I found myself wanting to live, like, back in society.” (Liz, 05:01)

• Finding Community & Starting Psychic School in Boulder:

  • Liz’s interest in meditation and psychic experiences led her to the Boulder Psychic Institute—a place offering non-dogmatic, grounded instruction on psychic skills and energy healing.
  • The environment was validating for students who felt “weird” or “intuitive,” finally able to hone their sense in an open but structured manner.

    “And suddenly we had these teachers that were, like, very grounded and not dogmatic or religious or anything. And we're just like, yeah, of course you've had psychic experiences...” (Liz, 07:01)

2. Training at the Boulder Psychic Institute

• Methods and Visualization Techniques:
  • Participants practiced grounding exercises, energy clearings, aura readings, and intention setting using visualizations (e.g., aura colors, “sun above the head” filling with light).
• Student to Student & Public Readings:
  • The school extended practice from self-healing to reading fellow students and then strangers via public “free readings.”

    “I had the experience, and I know other students had it as well, of seeing something or knowing something that made no sense to me... And the person would be like, oh, my God, how do you know that?” (Liz, 08:20)

3. The Unusual Psychic Reading Experience

• The Reading Setup:

  • Liz describes a memorable reading with a stranger during one of the institute’s free sessions.
  • She relied on mental imagery, visualizing a “movie screen” in her mind’s eye, waiting for images or symbols to appear.

• Unexpected Vision & Reluctance:

  • Liz saw three colors—green, red, and blue—followed by the image of an orangutan. Skeptical, she hesitated to share these seemingly random images, doubting their meaning.

    “I remember in this experience when I saw those three colors, thinking, what. What does that mean?... Like, why am I just seeing these three colors?” (Liz, 12:18)

• Powerful Reaction:

  • Upon sharing the colors and the orangutan, the recipient broke down in tears. The colors matched the provincial flag where she was from in Indonesia, and the orangutan echoed her previous work in conservation.

    “[She] immediately broke down crying and was like, oh, my gosh. Like, that's. Those are the colors of the flag of the province that I'm from in Indonesia. And she said that she used to, like, work with orangutan conservation. And I thought, whoa, that's wild.” (Liz, 13:04)

4. Challenging Perception and Building Confidence

• Letting Go of Meaning:
  • Liz reflects on the importance of relaying what she sees, even without understanding it herself, as the message might profoundly affect the recipient.

    “But it wasn't really for me to understand, because then when I would say it to the person, they would say, oh, my gosh, how did you know that that means xyz?” (Liz, 14:30)

  • This experience (and others like it) encouraged Liz to trust the process, delivering messages as they appeared rather than editing or doubting them.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Value of Psychic Community:
  “We had all come there feeling like kind of weirdos who had had experiences... And suddenly we had these teachers that were, like, very grounded and not dogmatic or religious or anything. And we're just like, yeah, of course you've had psychic experiences.” (Liz, 07:01)

• On the Power of Intuitive Images:
  “I saw the image of an orangutan... It was like, these three colors and an orangutan. And I remember in this experience when I saw those three colors, thinking, what. What does that mean?” (Liz, 12:15)

• On the Recipient’s Response:
  “[She] immediately broke down crying... Those are the colors of the flag of the province that I'm from in Indonesia. And she said that she used to, like, work with orangutan conservation. And I thought, whoa, that's wild.” (Liz, 13:04)

• On Trusting the Process:
  “It helped me get confident in just reading what I was seeing and not questioning it.” (Liz, 14:42)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:09] Jack Wagner introduces Liz’s story, context, and why this meditation experience is unusual
• [03:02] Liz shares her background—WWOOFing, off-grid living, and seeking impact
• [05:01] Shift from wilderness to community, discovering psychic school in Boulder
• [07:01] The validating, open environment of the psychic institute
• [08:20] Description of meditation and psychic reading techniques
• [12:15] Liz’s memorable psychic reading: vision of three colors and orangutan
• [13:04] Emotional validation and unexpected connection with the stranger
• [14:30] Reflecting on the importance of delivering messages as received

Episode Tone and Style

The episode maintains Liz’s self-aware, honest, and warm storytelling, with an undercurrent of curiosity and openness to the unknown. Jack Wagner’s framing is approachable and journalistic, reiterating the unusual nature of the events while inviting the listener to draw their own conclusions.

Conclusion

This preview episode offers a candid look at the intersection of meditation, psychic perception, and unexpected validation. Through Liz’s story, listeners are invited to consider how inexplicable impressions can have profound personal meaning—even when their origins are mysterious. The episode captures both the skepticism and awe that often accompany paranormal experiences, setting the stage for a deeper dive in the full Patreon release.