Wendy (4:07)

It is honestly killing me. It's so painful. It's. I can feel his agony and conflict. Was there more?

Jack (4:17)

Jack, there's more. I think we should hear the whole thing.

Bug (4:21)

Yeah.

Matt (4:21)

On top of all that, if you want some more paranormal stuff in the midst of all of this, it was a six month window where I had five sightings of different crafts, different, different times. One of them was a group of orbs and I don't know what that means. It could mean nothing. It could be a good omen, a bad omen. Felt like they were showing themselves to me. You know, I wasn't looking for them at the time. They just made themselves so obvious, I couldn't miss them. And, and it brought up more questions than answers. I think it means something, I just don't know what. So I'll leave it at that. Thank you very much again and I hope to hear back from you.

Bug (5:09)

Okay.

Wendy (5:11)

There was a lot there that was extremely painful.

Bug (5:16)

We'll do our best with this. There's a lot going on here and I don't know if any of us are out.

Jack (5:21)

I just don't even qualify to even.

Wendy (5:24)

I mean, I just think. Anyway, when he said the good omen or bad omen, I thought that was interesting because it's. We assign meaning to things based on our own consciousness. And of course, I believe, you know, orbs are beautiful angelic frequencies. I've had so many in my room, I can't see them in this room because of the light wall. I wish I. If I had a dark wall, we would see them moving around. I've seen giant ones, pink ones, even in front of the screens as I'm doing readings at my old house. But no, there's so much to this, this person is what a journey. So hard, so difficult. I think I just kept getting this image of him with this little boy and, like, loving him and. And just the attachment. Because having a child to me is. It's the most love you can possibly feel. It is truly the best gift in the world to have a child to me, that is the best gift, the most love you can ever experience in this realm, I think. Of course, because he had this dream, it's obvious he received a message before that this was. That this was something important. This is something he was supposed to be open to. And almost like source or energy or his angels are reminding him about. About this. Like this little boy was meant to be in his life, regardless who the father is. And then this woman. I mean, he's extending himself in ways that sound. I mean, part of it. You would be. I'm sure a therapist would be like, get away from her. Although, you know, I'm not a therapist, obviously, but you would have to be like, you have to have boundaries with this kind of person. And he has just. It sounds like he's been through so much trying to help her. And I understand the quandary he's in, because if he leaves her, she could take the baby and put the baby in danger. I mean, the situation he's in, those are called trick bags, right? Because either way, whatever you do, it's not. There's not a win to that situation. What were you going to say, Bug? I could feel.

Jack (7:47)

No, it's just messed up. Because. Yeah, if he prioritizes, you know, keeping the child away from drugs, it sounds like that would mean removing him from having a dynamic to the mom who is immersed in that.

Wendy (8:03)

I mean, ultimately horrible. Yeah, ultimately, you would want to get the. The mom help.

Jack (8:08)

Yeah, that's right.

Wendy (8:09)

Like, is she open to help? Is she willing? Is she willing to receive help? What. What is in pain? What is lost in her? What is her suffering connected to? You know, you have to track it. There's like, almost everything I've seen with sessions. And so when I'm in trance, I'm like, putting pieces together. You know, I just did some intense, intense sessions. These people flew from the east coast to have sessions putting the pieces together of. Of when a family member, like a parent, is an alcoholic. And this. The trauma it creates on children that the. How their nervous system is affected at such a young age.

Jack (8:51)

Addiction is like, just. It is immersive for everyone. Like, it impacts the whole ecosystem around the person.

Wendy (9:00)

No, it does. And it. And it I can't believe how many. It's just like the grandfather will have it. The great grand. It will just be passed down. That's why people proliferates. Yes. And this is. And it's like I said before, copy pasting and energy. It's passed down. It's passed down. It's like copy paste, copy paste. And until you, until you actually, you heal it. This woman who sounds like she's put him through hell, but it sounds like

Jack (9:27)

this person doesn't want help is the thing based on his description of her character?

Wendy (9:31)

Yeah.

Jack (9:32)

Maybe just the thing I think that is tricky about it is that it sounds like she doesn't want any alternative.

Wendy (9:38)

I mean her lifestyle probably. You know, and then maybe he can. I don't know if he wants to just raise this baby on his own. But clearly this little baby boy was meant for him to be the father of. I know I got goosebumps like three times during him talking. Did you feel that, Jack?

Bug (9:58)

Yeah. This is, this is very. This is heartbreaking.

Wendy (10:00)

I mean it's so hard.

Bug (10:03)

I feel like step one is he should talk to a lawyer. Just about like where he stands with his own rights and the legality. He's like on the birth certificate, like what happens if the biological father shows up? Like where does that leave him legally? Like could that guy come and take the kid away from him? I think it's awesome that he wants to raise this kid. It sounds like he might need to even protect the kid from.

Wendy (10:27)

I think all of that's good. I have a feeling this man is going to fall in love with someone else and raise this baby with a beautiful wife. And I have a feeling that this woman doesn't want to be involved in the future because she is self destructive and she doesn't care. She doesn't truly care about what's happening with the baby in essence or herself. She has.

Jack (10:54)

Right.

Wendy (10:55)

I mean, doesn't have any self love. I think that it'll eventually ease into something else. But I think that's really important what you said, Jack, because there, you know, where is the father, where's the dad? Where is he involved in this?

Bug (11:10)

My instinct is that like he needs to protect the kid from the mom when she's in a bad place like this. You know, he's saying like, oh, I don't want to try to get full custody. She might try to get full custody away from him.

Wendy (11:22)

Yeah. I don't know though. She doesn't sound to me like she's really present. No. To create a family so, yeah, the thing that's hard about these things when you're getting that, like, if I was reading for this person, I. He wouldn't tell me anything. Right. I would just go into his field and then I would be like, okay, there's this problem, blah, blah, blah, and start talking about it. And I could feel into it more. It's interesting. This is almost like backwards to my work, what you and I are doing, because I go in with no information. I like. I say I want a blank canvas, tell me nothing. I. Let me paint. I paint with consciousness. I want to kind of sort it out and work through it. It's interesting. This is backwards to my work. So, yeah, I think that this is a healthy exercise. If people get nothing else from this thing that we're doing, that we can listen to each other more, that we can have more compassion. Because the world is literally suffering. The world is in pain. And every day, like, my job is to problem solve every day. And I hear horrific things every single day that people have been through and that we can just try to offer more compassion to one another. Because I'm positive if you saw this man walking down the street, you wouldn't know all of this. You wouldn't know what he's been through. And on the other side of it, there are so many women that would love to be with a man like this.

Jack (12:57)

Yeah.

Wendy (12:57)

Like, don't sell yourself short. Yeah.

Jack (12:59)

Who's willing to step up.

Wendy (13:00)

And like, yes. There's so many. I read for beautiful, incredible people. Loving, loving people. And there are so many people who want love and are looking for partnership. And I think that whatever was supposed to happen with this man and this and this baby, I mean, with the dream is an important part of it. I think that. I just think that he can create something better in his relationship with a partner, obviously. Of course. And hopefully work through this where he has custody of this little boy. I don't know the legalities of it.

Jack (13:44)

We talk about it. So.

Wendy (13:47)

Yeah. But we can. That we should try to be more loving to one another. Because this is a great example of not knowing what someone else is going through. And. And this was intense to listen to him. I kept getting waves and waves of energy listening and goosebumps. I call them. God bumps. Listening to him talk about it.

Bug (14:10)

I'll say. I know he's struggling, but I also feel like he kind of knows the answer to what he's asking. Right. Like, yeah, I can kind of tell, like, he knows what he wants to do.

Wendy (14:21)

Yeah.

Bug (14:22)

It's A pickle. It's tough, but it sounds like he wants to take care of this kid and, like, do what it takes. So. Yeah, that's the good thing.

Wendy (14:31)

What was his name? Jack. Did he say his name?

Jack (14:34)

Matt.

Bug (14:34)

His name is Matt.

Wendy (14:36)

We love you, Matt. We're going to send healing light to you. So that's what we can do, is we can send. We can all collectively. Yeah. All the listeners pray because prayer, you set your intention and I'm telling you, you can penetrate the field where we all exist together in this oneness. And we can send. We can all send healing light to Matt and pray for him and pray for this beautiful baby boy.

Jack (15:03)

Yeah.

Wendy (15:03)

And send them love. And we can do this. This is something we can do. Seriously.

Bug (15:07)

Best of luck, Matt. I do think you should talk to a lawyer just to get a sense. I mean, every state law is different. I would get a sense of, like, what. Where you stand in your state, like, what your situation actually is, legally speaking, and what you can expect from the future. So there's no surprises. But good luck. You sound like a really good dude. So this kid is very lucky, I'd say.

Jack (15:29)

Yeah, truly, he does.

Wendy (15:31)

He does sound like a really good guy. And maybe, you know, source energy, whatever you want to call. God knew this baby was going to need protection and love, and that's why he received that message.

Bug (15:45)

Oh, wow. I did not give you easy ones to start today.

Jack (15:50)

That was crazy.

Bug (15:51)

I have not. I have not.

Wendy (15:52)

I hope we're giving everyone else chills. I hope everyone gets God bumps when they listen to that man Matt, speak about this because you know what? When you. When you feel that, you're feeling someone else's energy, and that's an important thing to start noticing. Yeah, okay, Jack, than you for that one.

Bug (16:07)

I hate to cut it off, but I have to. If you want to hear the full episode, it's available now on Patreon. There's also a video version of it. Hear the full thing@patreon.com Otherworld.