Gary Owen Gets Real On The Bengals, Comedian Cancel Culture, and Interracial Relationships

Summary

Outta Pocket with RG3

Episode: Gary Owen Gets Real On The Bengals, Comedian Cancel Culture, and Interracial Relationships
Date: October 6, 2025
Guest: Gary Owen (comedian), with appearances by his fiancée Brie
Hosts: Robert Griffin III (RG3) & Grete Griffin

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode blends sports, comedy, and culture through an unfiltered, hilarious, and thoughtful conversation with comedian Gary Owen. Topics span the Cincinnati Bengals’ woes, the shifting landscape of comedy amidst cancel culture, the reality of interracial relationships, and the evolution of Gary Owen’s career from niche “white black comic” to crossover stardom. Gary is candid and lively, joined later by his fiancée Brie for personal insights and playful banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gary’s Health Scare and Perspective on Life

• Gary recently posted about a hospital visit for chest pains, causing a stir among fans. He clarifies it was precautionary, not serious, and pokes fun at sympathy-seeking “prayer” social media posts ([01:31-03:15]).

“If you see me post from a hospital, it’s ‘cause my girl thought the EKG stickers were funny to pull off!... I didn’t want people thinking I was fishing for prayers.”
— Gary Owen (03:00)

• When asked if it was a life-changing scare, Gary says it wasn’t as deep as people think:

“There is that moment where the doctor comes in and you go: what’s he gonna say?... But then it’s all good. You’re just glad.”
— Gary Owen (03:27)

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2. Cincinnati Bengals Woes & Hilarious Football Takes

• Gary, a long-suffering Bengals fan, laments Joe Burrow’s injury and backup Jake Browning’s struggles, drawing a parallel to a kicker with the “yips” who’s lost all confidence ([04:16-05:16]).

“He’s in his head right now—like a kicker with the ick.”
— Gary Owen (04:28)

• RG3 asks for Gary’s halftime motivational speech with the Bengals down 50:

“F*** it. That’s all you gotta say. At that point, what you got to lose?”
— Gary Owen (06:30)

• Wild solutions are floated: would Gary take Shedeur Sanders, Kaepernick, or—jokingly—even Kevin Hart?

“At this point…I’ll take Kaepernick, straight up, right now.”
— Gary Owen (05:22)

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3. Culture: Travis Kelce, “White Black Guys,” and Race in Sports

• Discussion of Travis Kelce’s shift (from “white black guy” dating Black women with a fade, to dating Taylor Swift).

“He did like a Kid Rock on us. Right now, he’s going where the money is.”
— Gary Owen (07:33-08:05)

• Gary riffs on Ben Roethlisberger's similar trajectory, tells a funny story about unknowingly trying to get Big Ben’s girlfriend’s number in college ([08:13-09:16]).

• The age gap in dating is skewered, with RG3 bringing up Bill Belichick’s much younger girlfriend.

“What are they talking about at night? You went to high school with her aunt!”
— Gary Owen (11:17)

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4. Race & Nepotism in Sports (Deion Sanders, Bronny James, etc.)

• Gary defends Deion Sanders’ style and son Shedeur’s confidence, connecting criticism to unapologetic blackness and the media’s double standards:

“I think it stems from—he’s unapologetically Black … You can’t be him, so you don’t get it.”
— Gary Owen (14:03) “Why are people mad LeBron set Bronny up for success? CEOs do it for their kids. Adam Sandler puts his kids in every movie.”
— RG3 (15:46)

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5. Debating the GOAT: Michael Jordan vs. LeBron

• Gary is decisive:

“Michael Jordan. Period.”
— Gary Owen (17:55) “Not a knock on LeBron…but I’d take Shaq in his prime over LeBron in his prime. No one was stopping Shaq.”
— Gary Owen (18:03)

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6. Fixing the Pro Bowl & “Race On Race” All-Star Games

• Gary jokes the Pro Bowl should just be cancelled, suggesting tongue-in-cheek the only way an “all-white vs. all-black” football all-star game could work is if Christian McCaffrey played every year ([20:46-22:12]).

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7. Comedy, Race, and Cancel Culture

• The crew discusses “mixed kids” and the humor of dual identities—what their “white side” vs. “black side” would say in encounters with cops or arguments ([22:14-24:42]).

• Social media's impact on comedy: Gary acknowledges how platforms like Facebook Reels helped him cross over to white audiences after years of being embraced mostly by Black audiences ([33:28-34:47]).

• On comedian cancel culture:

“If it’s funny, it’s funny. You’re treading thin ice with blackface, but if you can nail it…that’s the key. I’m a comic, we can’t be offended.”
— Gary Owen (32:42)

“We’re taking our power back from cancel culture…fans are showing ‘you ain’t canceling us.’”
— Gary Owen (50:19)

• Advice for new comics: invest in recording your material, go places others don’t want to, find your crowd.

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8. Interracial Relationships & Family Life

• Brie joins and shares the quirks of being with Gary—including his habit of wearing flip flops without pedicures ([35:24-36:50]), and the dynamics of living with her mom.
• On “earning the Black card,” Gary recounts how his “in” came from hanging out with Black colleagues in the Navy and preferring Black nightclubs—long before comedy ([44:24-46:53]).

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9. Rapid Fire Fun

• Comedian Football Draft:

  • QB: Kevin Hart ("work ethic, leader, process scenes instantly") – (27:31-28:15)
  • RB: Bill Burr ("he’d be snapping on people")
  • WRs: Cat Williams, plus others ("pre-madonna, I want the ball!")
  • O-line: Shane Gillis, Sebastian
  • Coach: Dave Chappelle ("Just sucks you right in. I’d believe him.")
  • Kicker: Theo Von ("Just come in, hit a zinger, and out")
  • Pass rushers: Joe Rogan, Joey Diaz

• Comedy & Family:

  • Earth’s best joke to aliens: “Difference between Black and white churches”
  • Who should play Gary in a movie: Steve Martin (“or young Woody Harrelson”)
  • Spirit animal: Dolphin

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10. Comedy’s Toughest Moments & Cancel Culture Backlash

• Gary shares about being “gonged” at a gay LA club early in his career—a humbling but funny story ([39:17-42:54]).
• On backlash for Black women jokes and internet trolling:

“Never met these people in real life. I’m never at H-E-B and get those comments. I don’t know where these people are.”
— Gary Owen (43:20-43:48)

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11. The Women’s Game & The “Villain” Narrative

• On Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark:

“Race does have something to do with it. Caitlin Clark’s not as big as she is if she’s Black. Tiger Woods isn’t as big as he is if he’s white.”
— Gary Owen (63:43-65:11)

• Gary and Robert agree: Caitlin Clark is the main engine of WNBA’s current popularity.

“She’s getting you guys first class private jets. It’s because of her. Don’t get it twisted. Nobody else.”
— Gary Owen (57:34-58:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• [06:30] — Halftime Bengals: “F*** it. That’s all you gotta say.” (Gary Owen)
• [07:33] — “He did kind of like a Kid Rock on us...he's going where the money is right now.” (Gary Owen on Travis Kelce)
• [14:03] — “He’s unapologetically Black…You can’t be him, so you don’t get it.” (Gary Owen on Deion Sanders hate)
• [15:46] — “Why do you think they take it out on Dion and LeBron, but not on business people?” (RG3)
• [17:55] — “Michael Jordan. Period.” (Gary Owen on the GOAT)
• [18:03] — “Shaq in his prime over LeBron in his prime. No one was stopping Shaq.” (Gary Owen)
• [32:42] — “If it’s funny, it’s funny. You’re treading on thin ice…” (Gary Owen on blackface/skits)
• [35:31] — “He loves to wear flip flops without pedicures all the time, and those are his favorite shoes.” (Brie on Gary’s quirks)
• [39:29] — The gay club story: “I got gonged at a gay club. That was my worst night…” (Gary Owen)
• [43:20] — “I've never met these (internet trolls) in real life.” (Gary Owen)
• [63:43] — “Caitlin Clark is not as big as she is if she’s Black... Tiger Woods is not as big as he is if he's white.” (Gary Owen)
• [62:22] — “She’s getting the dollars, she’s bringing the viewers. I watch for her…Angel Reese—the best thing she did was do this at the game, made her the villain…good storytelling.” (Gary Owen)
• [72:08] — On falling in love after divorce: “It’s just a feeling. When you’re away, you just want to be back with them...that’s when I knew.” (Gary Owen)

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12. Closing Thoughts

• Gary’s reflections on personal growth, remaining authentic as a comic, and appreciating family in the “little moments.”

“Being older and having the kids at my age—you appreciate it more. When I see ‘em just run around…I’m like, oh, this is life.”
— Gary Owen (71:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Gary’s Hospital Story & Social Media | 01:31-03:15 | | Bengals’ Sadness & “F*** it” Speech | 04:16-06:30 | | Travis Kelce’s Identity Shift | 07:09-08:13 | | Ben Roethlisberger Story | 08:13-09:16 | | Deion Sanders Criticism/Race in Sports | 13:47-15:02 | | GOAT Debate (MJ/LeBron/Shaq) | 17:50-18:44 | | Pro Bowl Fix & Racial All-Star Game Idea | 20:46-22:12 | | Social Media’s Role in Comedy | 33:28-34:47 | | Cancel Culture and Comedy Freedom | 50:14-51:19 | | Interracial Relationship Quirks, Gary+Brie | 35:24-36:50 | | Crowd Work & Viral Comedy | 48:47-51:31 | | Women’s Basketball—Villain Narrative | 62:22-65:11 | | Falling in Love After Divorce, With Brie | 72:08-74:16 |

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Tone

Upbeat, unfiltered, and constantly humorous—even when messages get serious, the tone remains playful and actionable, reflecting Gary’s signature blend of directness and inclusivity. RG3 and Grete lean into Gary’s comedic improvisation, contributing to an easygoing, lively atmosphere.

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For Those Who Haven’t Listened…

You’ll leave this episode with fresh laughs, a new appreciation for how modern comedy and sports intersect with race and culture, and a real sense of Gary Owen’s journey—from “America’s favorite white black comedian” to crossover viral stardom, all while navigating love, parenthood, and an ever-evolving comic landscape.

The episode is loaded with stories, real talk, and more than a little “outta pocket” humor—highly recommended for sports fans, comedy lovers, and anyone curious about the intersections of identity, fame, and family.

Transcript

[A]

What's your motivational speech to your Cincinnati Bengals at halftime?

[B]

Fuck it. No doubt.

[C]

It's the small moments that you don't get to see, you know, out in public.

[B]

I would take Kevin Hart as my quarterback.

[A]

Oh, yo, yo, yo. Welcome to out of pocket with RG3, hosted by your boy and the lovely, amazing 85 time all American, Greta Griffin. Yes. She's Gary.

[D]

If you don't know, this is a running bit that Robert has.

[B]

What sport did you play?

[D]

I ran track. I'm actually a three time All American, but every episode Robert gives me one more. So now we're at 85.

[B]

I believed it.

[A]

You're not supposed to say till after, like at the end of the. See, he was believing and now you.

[B]

Come on, man.

[D]

He did not believe.

[B]

Realistic. Four years. Yeah, I believe it. What is that?

[D]

I was a hipped athlete.

[B]

That's all of them, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So the male is decathlon females. Okay.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Appreciate you guys ruining the introduction, but we'll keep going. So now today's episode is a special one. A guy that we are a huge fan of. I think everybody's a huge fan of this guy. A writer, a director. He's America's favorite white black comedian. The only white host of Comic View ever.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And this guy has a YouTube special that will make you laugh days upon days upon days. Welcome to the show.

[B]

Gary.

[D]

Owen, wait out this.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

We picked up on that.

[D]

How are you doing? You freaked out a lot of people in the last couple days by posting that you were in the hospital. What happened to you?

[B]

Well, I. I would have never post anything if something was really wrong. So I think it was. It just. We didn't explain why I was in the hospital. We just said, thanks for taking care of me. But I just had a. I had a. I had a chest pain. And I go, that didn't feel right. If it'd be on the right side, I wouldn't have worried about it. When it's on the left side. I was like, you know what, Let me just go get it checked. So now I went in and I just thought they're gonna be like, yeah. They go, yeah. Your EKG came back a little abnormal, so we're gonna send you over the hospital. I go, really? So now I'm in the ambulance and I'm just. And I'm wide awake. I'm like, I'm feeling fine. I go, this is. I could have drove myself. And then the thing is, I had to stay all night because they Couldn't see me till the next day because I went in at night.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So now I just kind of sat there, and they just ran a. They really had, like, a camera up my arm. And then they just take pictures and videos of your heart, and everything was fine. It was just like, I was better being safe than sorry.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why we were having fun with it in the hospital, you know? But I didn't mean to freak everybody out. I don't want to be one. You know, some people, like, I had my. My old road manager caught Covid, okay? Like, most people did at some point. It was like, seven months after the outbreak. And then he goes, yeah, just caught Covid. I could use everybody's prayers. I go, why would you post that? And I go, now everybody's calling me, like, are you all right? Because he's always with me. And he goes, I just want to write prayers. Nah, you wanted people to be like, I'm thinking about you. Exactly. He's looking for the sympathy stuff. Come on, bro. I didn't want people to think that was what I was doing. It was literally just, you know, when the hospital. My girl was trying to pull the dang EKGs off, and that hurt, and I thought it was funny, so we posted it.

[A]

You know, did it at least or at all give you, like, a scare of, like, that moment? You know, a lot of people have those moments where, like, man, I gotta take life more seriously, because it could be over at any point. Was. Was it like that at all, or.

[B]

No, no, it wasn't that. There is that point where the doctor comes in after they take all the videos, and you don't know where. You know, you got that. That second where you're like, what's he about to say? Like, you don't know. Is he gonna be, like, a stint in your heart? What's going on? So there is that moment after you get out of the. Whatever the camera shots they took, you're like, I don't. I don't know what's going on. That there is that moment. But then it was like, everything's fine. I was all right.

[A]

We are glad that everything is okay. And unfortunately, speaking of tragedies. Fortunately for you.

[B]

Go ahead.

[D]

Speaking of tragedies, let's get to our opening drive. And the Bengals.

[B]

I know. I knew. I knew, you guys. I almost wore a Bengal jersey today, too. You suck. Me. What are you.

[D]

What were your actual thoughts when Joe Burrow went down and can't play now for three months?

[B]

I don't Know, I don't know what to think, man. Because he spent eight months with so much hope.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then week two, I'm like, I'm just. I think Browning right now, I think Minnesota shook him with all the interceptions and everything went wrong. And that Monday night game looked like he didn't want to throw a pick because there were some wide open. You saw Gasecki do this, you saw Jamaica, Marty this. And I think he's in his head right now. He's like a kicker that's got the ick. And I'm just going, I'd rather have a. Just a veteran that could care less if he throws a couple picks. I've always heard that. And you can probably tell this more. I heard the young guys get in their head.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But the veterans be like, he throws a pick and he's just on the silent, like, yeah, what are we playing next? I want to like that. I want an old. Just. I don't care if I throw a couple picks, I'm still going to throw it to Jamar. Yeah. See, I think Brownlee's in his head right now. I don't know what to do, man.

[A]

No. Would you. Would you guys take sh. Sanders right now? He's not. He's not a vet.

[B]

Hold on. At this point, I take. We scored three, and really, against Minnesota, we scored three because that touchdown was a trash touchdown at the end of the game. So really, we've scored six points. When me. When the game mattered. I will take. I'll take Kaepernick at this point. Straight up. Straight up right now. Hers been working out.

[A]

That's actually a pretty good comment.

[B]

They could use Kevin.

[A]

Yeah. If he can still go a little bit with the legs, he might. He might be better than Jake Browning.

[B]

Nobody. It can't be worse. Like, literally maybe you, baby.

[A]

Oh, listen, I got. I could play a couple games.

[B]

Okay. He's calling him right now. I saw your knee against the Seahawks, I don't know. Against that line. I don't know if you want that because they gonna be blitzing.

[A]

They gonna be blitzing. But you know what? It would help to be able to throw to T. Higgins and throw to Jamar Chase and Gasecki and those guys. So I don't know why Jake Browning is struggling so much. But in. In the spirit of you being a Bengals fan, the Bengals are down by 50. Okay. It's coming into halftime. You're the leader of that team. What's your motivational speech to your Cincinnati Bengals at halftime?

[B]

Fuck it. That's all you gotta say, hey, guys, at this point, fuck it. What are we doing, you guys? Oh, my God. What do you got to lose at that point?

[A]

You don't. You don't have anything to lose, honestly.

[D]

That's good stuff. All right, moving on into viral spirals. So these are some of the viral topics going around. Around the world. So Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are still a massive topic, and you are considered a white black guy, and Travis Kelce used to be considered a white black.

[B]

I know, right?

[D]

And now I'm not asking the question.

[A]

Okay, so my question is, what do you think scared the black out of Travis Kelsey? What scared the black out of him? He was dating black women, and then all of a sudden, he was like.

[B]

He has a fade.

[A]

He had a fade.

[D]

He had a TV show how he dressed then. Now he dresses now.

[B]

You know who else was like that, though? And people don't talk about it, but Ben Roethlisberger was exactly like Travis Kelce.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You look at him when he got drafted, he got. He got the cut. He's talking shit. Deontay hog. Oh, I see you. Deontay. He had. He had, like, a little slang. He had a chain. He's right. And then all of a sudden, I don't know what happened. I think John Deere said, yo, we want to sponsor you. So, I mean, he went with the money. Travis going where the money is right now. I think he really loves Taylor. I think they're a real couple. But I think he's like, n. I'm gonna play into this fan base, you know? I mean, he did kind of like a Kid Rock. Kid Rock on us. It's happening good.

[D]

A lot of good examples.

[A]

The callbacks you just had are impressive because you're right. Ben Roethlisberg, if you look at his. His draft picture and, like, that video when he's walking up to the stage.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's got.

[D]

When did he get drafted?

[B]

I got a couple funny stories about Van Rosberg, because I'm from Oxford, Ohio, where Miami University's at, right? So his, like, sophomore year, because I think he came after his junior year. So right when he became the quarterback, he started. I was home for a weekend, and I started talking to this black girl, the only black girl at this bar, right? And it got to the point where we were in front of the bar, and it's called Brick street in Oxford, Ohio. And now I'm talking smack to the players. I'm lit. I'm talking smack to players. I'm Talking to her. And. And literally I said, I said, girl.

[D]

You ain't gonna give me your number.

[B]

And she goes, I got a boyfriend, he's a quarterback. I go, like, he's going pro. I said, you dating a high school football coach right now? And everybody. No clue. It was Ben Roethlisberger's girl. At the time, I didn't know, like he's going pro. Who knew? Like he's going pro. Relax. Oh my God. So who knew, you know, look how that worked out.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

So I see the first time I saw you, you in person.

[A]

Okay, that's funny.

[B]

Was before you got drafted. So it was the super bowl was an indie that year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they had a ESPN party or something. I think there was a video game party or something.

[A]

Madden. Yep.

[B]

So they had the red carpet, right. So I was. You get scheduled to walk the red carpet to certain points, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you had already walked. You were getting ready to play video game and a couple other place rock. And they said, gary, you're next. And I. I never sit next to Joe Thomas. The. The tackle for the Browns.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we're sitting there. All right, Gary, you're next. And at that point, the cameras are all out. Everybody's taking pictures. Right. Tim Tebow showed up. Right. This is when he just got out of Florida. Was he draft the same year as you?

[A]

He was before me, but he was, you know, he was the year before. Two years before. Two years? No, the year before. The year before.

[B]

So this is when he really bought out. Then they beat the Steelers in the playoffs.

[A]

Yep. Touchdown to Damaris Thomas.

[B]

So he's still Tebow guy. Right. So when I tell you they said no, Tebow just show showed up. So me and Joe were just kind of standing there and then Tebow walked in. All the cameras just went with them. There's no pictures of me on the red car, by the way. Like I'm talking. I think I had like a student at Butler University undoing his camera and putting the light in. I got. Because it was like when I went to. It was. It was one camera per slip. T bow took the entire press row and went with him. I look at Joe Thomas like ain't nobody saw us. We were. The last time we're done. They all left with him.

[A]

Can't believe Tebow took you took your shine like that.

[B]

Who knew?

[A]

He didn't care. Who knew. You know, in the. In the line of famous girlfriends, right now, one of the most famous girlfriends in football is Bill Belichick's girlfriend.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So what do you think about the 73 year old knocking down the 20 year old? What, what do you, what do you think about that?

[B]

I mean, all. What are they talking about at night? I don't know. Give them an example of what they're.

[A]

Talking about at night.

[B]

You know what I mean? You don't went to high school with your aunt, you know what I mean? Like, what are they talking about? I don't know. All, all power to Bill, though. I mean, my God. Can't be mad at him.

[D]

Definitely can't be mad at him.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[D]

If, if Bill Belichick dated your daughter, what was your halftime speech to Bilby?

[B]

Oh, there's no halftime speech. It's like, oh, I'm getting tickets, come on now. But like, you know what? I can't as a for my daughter, I'd almost rather her date our older guy. I know there's probably no agenda there and you know, he ain't trying to, to, to blast relationship on social media. So if it doesn't go right, you're gonna keep it between them? I'll take, I'll take an older guy than a younger guy. Put it like that.

[D]

Okay, okay.

[A]

She's probably. I, I. When you look at it that way, Jordan Hudson's probably got more to lose than Bill Belichick does.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, maybe not reputationally, but he's not in it for any other reasons than to, you know, him and the.

[B]

What, the owner of the Raiders? His girl too is like 30 years younger. Right?

[D]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[B]

I wish these girls would stop lying up. Like, I didn't know who he was when he, when I met him. I'm like, okay, stop.

[D]

You didn't know who Bill Belichick was.

[B]

And now you know everything about football.

[D]

You just saw Bill without his shirt on on the street and you fell in love.

[B]

I might believe it if she was from Estonia, but you ain't gonna move to the United States.

[D]

That is true though, because when I met Robert, I had no idea who he was.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

He's literally talking about you to God.

[D]

I did not come.

[B]

Tell the story.

[A]

Tell the story.

[B]

Where did you guys meet?

[D]

On Instagram? Yeah, Robert slid in the dms. But I had to ask my teammates, who's the guy sliding in my DMs? And they were like, where do you live? Under a rock? And I'm like, no, it's not.

[B]

Where'd you go to college?

[D]

Florida State. But Robert was already been drafted and everything. While I even Started college. Now, this sounds like we have a 30 year age gap, but we don't.

[A]

Three years.

[D]

But Robert had done all the big stuff already before I even came to America. So I didn't even know Baylor University existed until I saw the chrome helmets on tv.

[A]

But it's like you said, you would believe it if they. If they lived in Estonia.

[D]

Exactly. Very believable.

[B]

Right? I believe you.

[D]

I don't. I don't think he does.

[A]

I don't think he does either. So I saw a clip of you with Deion Sanders. Shadir Sanders. I think this was during his pro day.

[B]

It was a week before the pro.

[A]

You went out, you caught a couple passes.

[D]

Your hamstring.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why. Why do you think some people hate Dion Sanders and Sanders so much?

[B]

I don't know why they hate Dion. Because when you're around them, you get it.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You know, I mean, like, if I. If my son was gonna go play ball, I'd be like, go with Dion. Because I know he really does care about those kids. So I don't know where it comes from. It's. I think it stems from He's. Honestly, he's unapologetically black. Like, you know, yeah, I wore the chains. Yeah, I was cocky. But he was the best at what he did. You know what I mean? And then he goes and turns Jackson State around. I mean, have anybody named one player on Jackson State since he left? I can't.

[D]

I can't.

[B]

Before he was there or after, I don't know. But I was watching Jackson State when he was there. Yeah, I think that's what it is. You can't be him. So you're like, I don't understand it. So if you don't understand it, I think it's more. Look at. Look at the white players that I react to him. His white players be like, yo, I've run through a wall for this dude. And they're crying. He's like a father to me. It's not just the black players. He's doing it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that's what they try to do. They try to. They don't say it, but a lot of it is because he's. He's a black. Black guy.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? He's got the chain, everything, you know? So I think that's where it comes from.

[D]

So why do you think they hate On Shador like that? Because it's Dion son.

[B]

I. I mean, it has something to do with it, you know? He did the watch thing.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

He's cocky a little bit, you know, So I just think, you know, the good thing is there's gonna be, there's no unhappy ending here.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's just like when, when Shadow got cut, he was like, oh, he gonna be fine. I said, welcome to your new wide receivers coach in Colorado. Like, he's gonna have a job. You know what I mean?

[D]

Oh, that's funny.

[B]

Like he's got a job. Yeah. Nepotism is not dead.

[A]

No, I'm not mad at it.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

You talk about the nepotism that brings you to LeBron James and Bronnie. Why are people mad that he set Bronnie up for success? But they don't get mad at any of the number of high level CEOs or, or comedians or business people. Business producers in Hollywood. They all set their children up. I mean, Adam, Adam Sandler has kids in every movie. Every single one of his movies. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Why do you think they're, they're, they're taking that out Jon Dion and LeBron but not. They're just turning a blind eye to everything else.

[B]

Cuz their kids ain't. That's why. What are your kids doing?

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

I want to see what your kids are doing. All these people that are writing about them. So if you're a beat writer, right, and your son says, I want to do what you do, dad, you're not going to try to get him internship at your, at your, whatever your, your website or your newspaper. Yeah, just looking out for your son. And it sells tick. And he didn't get no real special treatment. You still got a ball to be in the NBA. The worst NBA player is running people at the ymca.

[A]

Oh my goodness.

[B]

You know what I mean? People don't realize what great athletes they are. Trust me. I played, I've done charity games with, with NBA players. I played flag football with NFL players. You can tell when you're in, when you're with them, like, oh, this is different. This is different. I remember in high school we put, there was this fullback on another team and I thought he was the baddest dude I'd ever played against in my life. I was like, where is this guy going to college? Ball State. And when I was playing against him, I was like, this is the most amazing athlete I've ever played against in my life. Mike was going to Ball State. I was like, there's no way. What, what is Ohio State like? You should be going To Alabama, dude. I just assumed he was at Ohio State or Michigan. Ball State. He was big. He. He hurt. When I tackled him. It hurt. I was like, this guy is a rock. Ball State and never did nothing to Ball State. Oh, my God.

[D]

But talking of a basketball. Who's the greatest basketball player of all time, LeBron James or Michael Jordan?

[B]

Michael Jordan, period.

[A]

We agree.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And this is. That's the thing. It's not a knock on LeBron.

[A]

We love the.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

LeBron.

[A]

We love you.

[B]

To me is. It's Jordan. LeBron. But I think centers are different because I would take Shaq in his prime over. Over LeBron in his prime. Nobody was stopping Shaq back in the day. But then. But if you're looking at, like, that position, Kobe's third.

[D]

Don't look at me.

[A]

Yeah, I was gonna ask him about, like, Shaq over Wilt and.

[B]

Yeah, in his prime and Shaq's greatest center of all time. I mean, to watch it up close, I was like, oh, you're not stopping that. 2000, 2003. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck with that monster.

[A]

Okay. If Shaq wanted to punch you in the face.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. What would you do? Or what would you say if he was like, I'm gonna punch you in the face if you don't stop looking at me.

[B]

I'm not looking at him. I'm not looking at him. Make sure my life insurance is in order. Oh, my God, you're dead. Remember how close he got The. Was it. Was it a Miller? Was it Eric Montrose or Miller from Sacramento? When Shaq came with the haymaker and almost connected? Oh, my. I felt into the tv. I moved. I went.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

When you're next to him, he's so big.

[A]

He's a ginormous human being.

[B]

Thick. He's just thick everywhere. Like, I don't want no part of that. He. He picked me up like a baby one time. I took a picture, and he just scooped me up. I go, oh, my God. Like, I was an infant, really. I just hold and I held onto him.

[A]

We've taken some pictures with him, and he's like. He makes you feel like the child, and he doesn't.

[B]

And they don't bring him up. It's like. It's like, Jordan, LeBron. Jordan, LeBron. I go, dude. For three years, though, I mean, shaq was unstoppable. 2000, 2003. Hang it up.

[A]

He was.

[B]

I think those are three more dominant years I've ever seen from a player. From a player, like, over Jordan those three years, like Jordan over the career. And Jordan had that killer instinct. And once Jordan hit his prime, like, there was no stopping that. You know what I mean? But that's the only argument I have is like, if you're going off titles and wins, it's Jordan. That's why LeBron's never really had a terrible team. He's been on Kobe did. Kobe had some terrible teams when Shaq left. They were. They were shitty.

[A]

That's true. They were. One of the. One of the big issues in basketball right now is their All Star game game. Right. You know a problem in the NFL is the Pro Bowl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How do you think the NFL could fix the Pro Bowl?

[B]

You can't just cancel it. Just cancel it. Just give a weekend away somewhere. Maybe Estonia. It's not coming back. Days of guys playing hard, getting hurt. The Sean Taylor hit on the punter. They're done. They. Nobody wants to. They don't really want to be there. I don't know why they moved it out from Hawaii. It was a vacation for the guys.

[A]

100.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What is now Orlando sometimes.

[B]

Anybody trying to go to Orlando, it.

[A]

Was in Vegas one year.

[D]

They took the. They took all of them to Disney World.

[B]

All the guys are hungover. They're messed up. It's obvious they don't want to be there. Send them. Give them that little vacation to Hawaii. Put them at that Four Seasons where they used to put them at on Koalina. And that was. That was great. Little vacation. Yeah. Show up for practice about an hour. You know what I mean? Nobody cares.

[A]

Yeah. You know, why wouldn't we make it the all white team versus the all black team?

[B]

Basketball. Yes.

[A]

You. But you don't think it will work in football.

[B]

I mean, McAffrey's going to make it every year or you got to do it where like.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's all you can do. You can't do white and black. The McAffrey and Scbo. That's about it.

[A]

Sco, you got Cooper de corner for the Eagles.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

You know, some of the mixed guys can play on both teams, I guess.

[D]

Oh my God. Talking about mixed guys.

[A]

So we, we obviously we're fans of. Of you and, and. And love the. Your jokes and, and just your whole. The way that you put together a special. So we saw some clips online of you talking about mix quarterbacks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know how the white side is telling them to stay in the pocket and the black side is telling them to run do something with the legs. So we wanted to ask you a question of, like, applying that to, to other things.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So the, the first question would be, what do you think mixed kids or m, a mixed person is thinking when they have an encounter with the cops?

[B]

Oh, that's a good one. Depends on what neighborhood you're in on these parts. They're gonna be like, you better. You better whip out a picture of your mom and dad real quick. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like this.

[B]

Just have it in your wallet. Sorry, my car might be in my mom's name. And you put the wallet back up.

[D]

Oh, my God. That's good.

[B]

Let me call her real quick. Greta. That's what you gotta, you have, like a cohort for your mom. Mom, when I call, you're Greta or Amber. Amber.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's good.

[D]

I'm, I'm moving away from the sports now.

[A]

No, no, no, no. That is amazing. I got one more for you. What are the dual voices in a mixed person's head when they get in an argument with their partner?

[B]

Oh, the black. You gotta go to the black when you're arguing the argument. I, I, I haven't won argument yet. I try to win, but in the end I'm like, all right, you got it. You got it.

[A]

So what is the black side telling them in that argument? Where are they going? Where. How are they attacking?

[B]

Just. You got hit with a. Who you talking to? Pretty much ends it right there.

[D]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna, I'm gonna try it up.

[B]

And be like, no, no, no, no, no. Was that Kevin Hart? No, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't mean it like that. Maybe. Oh, my God. Custom out in Estonia.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

What's the language? What's it called?

[D]

Estonian.

[B]

Oh, it's called Estonian. Wow. It's really. If I knew another language. Oh, I would be snapping.

[A]

I know enough that I know in there when she's doing that. But go ahead, tell them some. Sell them some words in Estonian.

[D]

No, once my, Once I've told my kids something three times or four times or five times, and they still don't listen. That's when I just lose it in Estonian. So they have no idea what I'm saying because they'll be like, you don't.

[B]

Want to teach them Estonian.

[D]

I do, but not the bad stuff.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

I'm not saying nice things when I'm cussing them out.

[B]

The Estonian, that's what I would be teaching my kids. Kids early, so they can just go off on kids and teachers, and they have no idea. Nothing.

[A]

That's a good point.

[D]

There is another Estonian kid at school, though.

[B]

My. This is funny. My sophomore year of high school, I got suspended because I let one of the. It's funny to one of the better football players on the team. He had a. We had the same class. We had the same class, but different periods. So he asked to see my homework. He didn't do like some essay, so I gave it to him, but he copied it word for word. Why does some bis get an A? And I got a B? And we had like a student teacher. You imagine teachers that were like grad students. They were trying to be a teacher. She was one grading papers. So I went up to where I said, hey, I don't want to tell on anybody. I said, but I let somebody copy my work. I go, and he got an A and I got a B. And she goes, well, let me look at it again. I'll tell you after class. And she looked at again, she gave me a B. So I was walking back to my desk and I go, I didn't say it to her, but I said it. I go, fucking bitch. Like this. And she goes, what'd you say, Gary? What'd you say? And I go, fuck a bit. But I say like that. I go, fuck a bit. She goes, so I go to principal's office. And then he reads it. He goes, so brought him attention. You called Mrs. Smith a fucking bitch. And I went, here's the comedian. And I go, I didn't. I didn't use the G. So I got like, ISS in school suspension for three days. And I was so mad.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That the guy copied my work. And he got an A and I got a B. End up getting a B plus. But then I got suspended for three days.

[A]

What was his name?

[B]

I can't say his name. Now. The funny thing about the dude, he ended up going to prison.

[A]

Oh, karma.

[B]

For like 10 years.

[D]

Karma?

[B]

Yeah, Straight up. And I remember I went to like a classroom or something. They go, man, did you hear what happened to so and so? I don't want to say his name. But they was like, dude, he got locked up. I go, what? And then I went to, like, Ohio inmates. And I looked him up. Here he is. I go, oh, he looks rough, bro. He looked rough to be the same age as me. I was like, wow.

[D]

See, Karma.

[B]

Yeah, he was a good athlete too.

[A]

I wasn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I have one last question about sports related.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

If you had to do a comedian draft. Oh, who are you drafting at qb?

[B]

Oh, that's a good one. I would say Kevin Hart is my quarterback.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Because I've worked with them, so I know his work ethic. I know he's a leader and I know. I've seen him. I've been there. I mean, I've done four movies with him. I've seen him look at a scene and five minutes later, we're. We're. We're doing the scene and he. He nailed it, right? And I was like, dang. Because I The one that has to be in my room all night when I got like two pages of monologue. I'm like, I seen him just like go. He was like in New York doing a press run for a liquor and then comes back and then they. He. He hasn't clearly hasn't looked at it. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it, got it, got it. So I think a quarterback would have to know where the defense is and everything else. So he would be my quarterback.

[D]

His height wouldn't be factored there.

[B]

No, I'm good. Drew Brees. Here we go. There you go. Dylan Gabriel. I heard he's playing this week. Quarterback. Kevin, be my quarterback.

[A]

Okay. Running back.

[B]

Running back is. Oh, let me think. God, we're not. We're not that athletic. That'd be a rough one right there. Running back, I would say, damn, I think we'd be fucked. And we'd be a passing team, clearly. So they go, go.

[A]

Wide receiver. You got to get two wide receivers in. Who's your two wide outs?

[B]

Oh, we're so bad.

[A]

Qualities. What are the qualities of a wide out? Qualities of a wide out.

[B]

You know, Pray Madonna. Yeah, yeah. So Cat Williams. Cat Williams is going to be a wide receiver? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I want the ball. I'm open. It's your fault.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Wide receiver. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. In the vein of to. Yeah, yeah. Kev. A wide receiver. Let me think. Who else would be a wide receiver? Oh, you know, running back. Bill Burr. Bill Burr be a running back.

[A]

Okay, Bill.

[B]

Yeah, he's funny. Yeah, he's really. He'd be snapping. He's snapping on people. You know what I mean? That didn't hurt. You know what I mean? Yeah. Bill Burby, running back. I would say Cat is a wide receiver.

[A]

Who's on the O line?

[B]

O line. I'm gonna take Shane Gillis. Yeah. Sebastian maybe. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good one. I think those are good.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Who would you have as your pass rusher. Think, you know. Lt ish that. That type of Persona. Who's your pass rusher?

[B]

That's. This is so weird. I would say. I haven't said Chappelle yet. I don't know where Chappelle will come in. Chappelle be the coach.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Chappelle be the coach. Okay. Yeah, I'd be the head coach. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Why? I don't know.

[B]

Chappelle just has that way about him, man. You listen to him. You got to be in the room with them. He just sucks you right in. Like, I would believe him. Maybe they have a shot. We can do it, man. Like, I think we could do it. We can do. You know what I mean? I think we've got. Yeah. Chappelle be the head coach. Pass rush. It's like a fat comedian like Joey Diaz go with Joey. Yeah. Maybe Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah. He's like.

[A]

He's rocked up.

[B]

Yeah. Rocked up. Yeah. Probably Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz be on the defense. Yeah. That's the thing about Joe Rogan. He don't like. You don't like football, though. Nah, he doesn't like it at all. Doesn't watch it.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

You know what I mean? Yeah. But he does not like.

[D]

Yeah, that's why I gotta throw him in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think Theo Vaughn would probably be my kicker.

[A]

Okay. Now, why that?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Just come in because that's his thing. Come in and hit a zinger. He's out.

[A]

He's out.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't want to be there for an hour. I just want him to come in, say something snappy. Kick that ball. And I don't think he'd be in his head. Like, he'd message kick and be like, ah, it and then come back out.

[A]

That's true. Speaking of Theovon, okay, speaking of the Oon, Drew did the. The white skit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right where he. In full.

[B]

That was great.

[A]

Okay. You think it was great? Do you think it would be fair? Let's ask that first. That question first. Why do you think the juice get was great?

[B]

Because it was funny. It's not. It's not good if it's not funny. And it was accurate. Like when he. When he. I grew up with those people, everybody at that NASCAR race when he had the girl. Nah, nah. And then when he walked over and got the girl out of trailer and gave a little hug, I go, that's exactly how we act. That's exactly how we act. I felt like I was watching a Fair reunion, you know what I mean? He just nailed it. It was funny.

[D]

He was true farmer's tan on him.

[B]

I think a person deserves an Oscar or something.

[A]

Thousand percent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then the Ovon came out after that and said he's gonna do a black face skit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And do you think that's fair? Do you think that it would be okay for white comedians to now do blackface?

[B]

If it's funny. If it's funny. You know what I mean? It's got to be funny. You're treading on thin ice. But if you can nail it, it's got to be funny.

[D]

I'm.

[B]

I am. I'm a comedian. We cannot be offended by anything.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

We have to defend each other. So if it's funny, it's funny. I don't know. That's when people, the jokes they tell and then people get offended. I'm like, look, I want them, I want communities to be able to say what we want. If you want, if you're a white guy and you want to see the N word, there could be repercussions. So it better be funny.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? It better be funny. That's all I'm saying.

[D]

When, when did you realize that you had such a big following in the black comedy clubs? Maybe even big, more so than the white comedy clubs?

[B]

It used to be. It's not that way anymore. I think I've really. The la. And I'm talking over the last six months, there's been a huge shift in my fan base.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Like I've, I finally like cracked the code with white people to crossover. Yeah.

[D]

Was not enough.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's been. And because of social media and, you know, I think Matt Rife really took off because of Tick Tock with me. It was Facebook. It was the Facebook reels. They just took off and it. And it kind of makes sense. A little older. You know, older. You know, you look at the analytics like my strongest audience is 35 to 44 year old men right now. And I think it's a lot of the military jokes I'm doing. But in the beginning I was, you know, you kind of got to rely on a producer saying, I want to put you in this or I want to put you on. And BET was always put me on. I had my reality show on bet. I was the host of Comic View. I had three hour specials on there. So that's who got. Look, I would have went on Telemundo if I could have spoke Spanish. When you start Doing stand up. You just want to get on tv. That was the goal. Right now it's not now it's like, just get some good bits out there. That's why I would tell any comedian now if he was going to do it, invest in a good microphone to hook up to you. Invest in a camera guy to be with you, because you don't know when you're going to catch magic in a bottle.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

That's great.

[D]

All right, guys, now we're going to welcome Gary's fiance, Brie to the show. Welcome to the show.

[C]

Hi, it's nice to meet you.

[D]

My first question is going to be straight, just out of pocket, because the show is called out of Pocket. What? Something that Gary has done that's been so out of pocket that even you have been like, that's way too far, Gary.

[A]

Something so black.

[B]

Something so black that you were just.

[A]

Like, you know what? This makes me uncomfortable.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[C]

Something so black or something so white? Because they're totally different.

[D]

Hey, if you got both, give me both.

[A]

She went white first. So tell us the white one. I know it's right on. It's right on the tip of the tongue right now.

[D]

It's the whitest thing Gary has.

[C]

He loves to wear flip flops without pedicures all the time, and those are his favorite shoes to wear. Did he wear them today?

[B]

I was worm today, but I want to get in front of my feet. My toes were fine, so I started dating her, too. I don't know what happened.

[C]

Nobody has ever told you you had fine toes.

[A]

They just didn't say anything.

[B]

I had toenails, but I don't have corns or nothing like that. It's just the toenails. I don't know what happened. They just started breaking up a little bit.

[D]

It's more. It's more than breaking up.

[B]

I love flip flops, though. I can wear flip flops all day.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He has no care in the world. He just wears them.

[B]

I love. Yes. Yeah, yeah. In between the toes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I love them. He'll be like, making fun of me. They're like, there's a brand called Oliki. Oliki. Every time I go to Hawaii, it's like, some people have Jordans, some people have Funkos. I'm like, buying, like, five pairs. I got one for every day.

[C]

No lie.

[B]

I got the white ones, I got the brown ones. I go, these are leather. I've been gay.

[A]

Like, when they ate.

[B]

What do you want? I'm. I'm so simple, though. Like, this is probably the white of me too. Like, when it comes to, like, holidays. What do you want? I'm like, socks or flipflops. No underwear. Have enough.

[C]

No underwear too.

[B]

It's easy too. But I like these. I like the bombas.

[A]

The bombas socks.

[B]

They're so comfortable.

[A]

Say like a bombas.

[B]

The bomba socks.

[D]

Oh, my God, that's funny. Okay, do we have anything that Carrie has done so out of pocket on the black side that you've been like, oh, as a black woman, this is too much?

[C]

Honestly, no. Only because he knows my mother would shoo him out if he ever tried it. Oh, my mom lives with us and he knows.

[B]

Yeah, she lives with us.

[C]

He knows not to try her.

[A]

I'll put you in this situation, brother.

[B]

Yeah, thanks. He loves my mom. Here's the bad part about her mom. She. She lives on. We got the twins, right?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And so she's there, but her mom is like, she's in her mid late 50s, but she's. She's very attractive and very in shape. She doesn't look like she's that old. So all my boys will come over and they'll keep bringing her up. I said, bro, you got one more time. You got one more time to bring up Reese mom. I go, man, I don't know. What, is she cool? I can't believe she got all them kids.

[C]

I'm one of seven, FYI. Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I go, stop. You're not gonna be my stepdaddy. It's been like four dudes. I'm like, stop, stop. Because they're not. They're being respectful, but they keep bringing her up. I go, enough, bro, enough. They'll stay at the house, okay. And they. I'll be like, stop, stop. It's getting weird.

[A]

You thought they were there for you, but they were really there for moms.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And she can cook.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, that. I'm so glad you brought that up. Oh, who cooks better? Since your mother in law lives with you, your wife or your mother?

[C]

I have to lie.

[B]

It's her mom.

[D]

My mom.

[C]

Better, but I'm not creative enough.

[D]

And your mom, you don't have to go.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah.

[D]

When my mom comes over, I don't touch the kitchen. Okay, no, I'll get.

[B]

I'll get like those ticks. Talk recipes like a healthy dessert, and I'll come home and her mom will have it all made up. I go, oh, my God.

[C]

I know.

[B]

You know, it's kind of like you can anything with just bananas and an egg. And look, you have a waffle and a waffle maker type. Your mom will have all these waffles, like the bananas cut up like a healthy chocolate syrup. I go, where'd you find this? Yeah.

[C]

She's so awesome.

[A]

So he's like, you can stay here.

[B]

As long as you want.

[A]

As long as you want.

[B]

Just keep on doing what you're doing. We going. Be good.

[D]

Love it.

[A]

What's the worst joke you've ever told?

[B]

Okay, I was the worst joke I ever told. But the one time I got. I never got booed off stage.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I got gonged at a gay club.

[A]

Oh, please do explain.

[B]

So I was trying to. I was open miking. I was living in San Diego. I was trying to get my name out there in la. So I'm just calling different clubs. If you had a microphone to stage. What's up? This place called the Rage on Santa Monica. Now, at this point, I didn't know Santa Monica was the gay area of Hollywood. So I just found it out today. What's that?

[D]

I just found it out right now.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. No, you'll know if you go to la.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

You know, they look at you like you're straight. Like, why you here? Like, this is our half. This is our Wakanda. This is our Wakanda. This is gay. Oh, my God. So. So I called.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I called all these clubs. Yeah, this one club called the Rage said, yeah, we have a variety show on Tuesdays. And I don't even know what a variety show is. They said, get here at four, sign up, come back at nine. If you're on the show. Show starts at ten. Signed up before, came back at nine. I said, yes, you are the ninth of ten acts tonight. All right. All of a sudden, I'm just hanging out and just. Dudes start showing up. More dudes. I go, a lot of dudes here. I'm still not picking up. It's a gay spot, right? Then I realized, wait a minute, this is gay. This is really gay. And so everybody was singing that night. It was all singer, singer, singer. And they go. All of a sudden, this guy was dressed in drag. He was big, heavy guy. He was like the queen bee. And they was like. He brought everybody up. Then he invites me up on stage. And keep in mind, I'm straight, white dude, bro. It was like, you ever seen Purple Rain?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

When they're not really reacting to Prince at the beginning. That's the dude. All this, so I'll never forget. I go, hey, what's up? You know, I was like, oh, this isn't going well. And the joke was, hey, keep in mind, it's one of the first jokes I wrote. I go, hey, you guys ever notice when a baby's born, you hold up by its feet, you smack it on the butt, and the baby starts crying so you know it's healthy. Hey, what if the baby's immune? I'm, like, holding up. I'm smacking his butt. I'm going. They. There was no laughter. Two guys came out with the Pulp Fiction balls in their mouth, like Ving Rhames type shit. They wheeled the queen out, the queen drag queen, and they had a gong and they gonged me. And then I got taken off stage and it was like, my dumb ass doesn't know. You should probably leave at this point. No, I'm still hanging out backstage. Like, I'm in LA for the first time. I'm still. Might get discovered. I go to use the bathroom. This guy walks up and goes, hey, this is a tough crowd. Don't worry about it. You're really funny. If you need a massage, here's my card. Puts it right in my pocket. So I told him, I go. So then I go. My car has a ticket on it. I legally parked. It was, like, the worst night. I had to drive to San Diego. I was like. I was thinking, man, I might have to work 9 to 5. I ain't got it. I ain't got it.

[A]

You're really funny.

[B]

You're really funny. He need a massage. Call me.

[D]

Did you wish you could go back to the Navy that night?

[B]

I was still in the Navy. Oh, you were still in it? Still in. Was active duty. Had to be at work the next day. Just awful. Yeah, that was my worst night. That was my worst joke.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

[D]

That's funny.

[B]

Oh, man, my sides are.

[D]

Oh, okay. Let's talk about Club Shay. You went to Club Shay. You received a little backlash, like almost everybody does. That goes on Club Shay. What do you say to the people that say that you make. You're too comfortable making jokes about black women.

[B]

Who. Who says that, though?

[D]

Internet trolls.

[B]

Internet trolls. Yes, that's right. Never met him in person. I never meet these people in person.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I can't stand you. I never meet these people in real life. Like, where are they? I've never been at HEB and I've gotten a comment, like, I've gotten on the Internet ever. Like, I don't know where these people are.

[A]

Same.

[D]

Same with Roberts.

[A]

Are they even real?

[B]

Yeah. I don't know if they're going to or they're just in their underwear, like, on the computer. I never meet them ever.

[D]

That's natural.

[A]

No, I. I definitely agree. And I had one other question before we dive deeper into this and, you know, want to talk to you guys about some. Some good, you know, serious stuff as well, but what was the moment that you knew? Like, I got my black card. I'm. I'm invited to the cookout.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I.

[B]

You know what?

[C]

I want to know.

[A]

What?

[B]

Oh, she wants to know, too.

[C]

No, I didn't know you back then.

[A]

What was that moment that you knew? Like, hey, this is my lane. And, like, I'm taking it because I. I am now certified.

[B]

Well, I think the first time I ever got on stage was at the Comedy Store in La Jolla, and that didn't go well, but I said, I. I think I got something here. I. I got something here. That didn't go well, but I got something. And then I was. I was in the Navy, and I was, you know, a lot of the black guys. I was. I used to hang out with the black guys when I was in the Navy. I hung out with the white guys, too. But the Navy, like, our.

[A]

Our.

[B]

Our chow halls, right, they're very segregated. Like, the Filipino guys sit with each other, the Mexican guys sit with each other, the white guys sit with each other, and then the black guys to each other. I was always sitting with the black guys because I like talking basketball, football, boxing, things like that. I didn't. I didn't like nascar. I didn't want to. And the white guys, like, we, like, complain about our wives a lot. The white guys did. I didn't want the singles. I didn't relate there. So I'd always hang with the black guys. And so that's probably when I realized, oh, you know, and I always like black girls. So I was going to black nightclubs, okay? Like, I'm not going to go to Garth Brooks. I'm going to go to Summer Jam, you know what I mean? That's where the black girls are. You know what I mean? Like, Robert, he probably would have been hanging out in Estonia.

[D]

Easy.

[B]

I love hot Cocos.

[D]

That's good.

[B]

You know what I mean? He's not buying Hennessy getting Swiss Miss. I like that.

[D]

That's great.

[B]

You go with what you like.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's when I knew I had, like, an in with black people. It was before I started doing stand up. Oh, it was being in the Navy, hanging out with all the brothers, you know what I mean? And they're the ones that told me about all the. The black knights in San Diego that I could get on stage. So if I would have stuck to, like, the mainstream nights, I probably wouldn't have, quote, unquote, had as many breaks early in my career, because I decided to. Where the white comics didn't want to go, I would go. I didn't know I was in the hood. I just was looking at an address. I'm pulling up, and I probably wouldn't look at the surroundings. You know, you're so focused on an address.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're just going into this building and telling jokes. And it just happened to be a lot of black people consistently and early in my career, so. Because, hey, listen, just keep it honest in the early in your career. You know, I'm 20, 21 years old. You're not making any money.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then you're getting attention from women like, you've never gotten that before. Like, yeah, like, when you become the hunted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's no manuscript for that, because guys are always the hunters.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

But then now you're starting to stand up. Like, oh, I don't. I don't have to go to a nightclub and say anything. You know, guys used to being like this against the wall, and you're. We're always like, we have to ask the woman to dance.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Stand up was different. Like, all of a sudden they're asking you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, yeah. Hey, what are you doing? Nothing. You know what I mean? Like, they're initiating the conversation. It's. It's. It's kind of a mind. In the beginning, you're like, whoa.

[D]

Do you have a favorite city to perform in where you feel like you get the most love?

[B]

Houston's up there.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Houston's up there. I'll tell you what, I would go states. Texas and Ohio.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Two of the best states, because you got Dallas. Love. Dallas for stand up. Houston for stand up. Obviously, Austin's become a little hotbed. And then Ohio, you got Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, and then don't sleep on Toledo either. So you got the cities that I bet you if you ask any stand up, they just love it. DC is also up there, too. I'd say that the DC Improv. Yeah.

[A]

I've been there. I've seen Marlon Wayans there before. I know you worked with him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Work with him as well. But how have you seen it change, like, the comedy space? I know you Were talking earlier about like Matt Rife, who essentially took off on social media. But a lot of what the clips that go viral for you now are ones of you talking to the. The crowd. Yeah, right. The crowd interaction as opposed to, you know, your traditional comic view. Come up there. You got your spots. You. You said your special is that way, which, you know, great special, by the way. Everybody should go check that out on YouTube. But do you think that's changed the way comics are maybe growing like the younger comics now?

[B]

I think that people doing crowd work for years, I just think now we're like, oh, we should probably be filming this. And sometimes, you know, in the past it probably didn't translate. And in the past year, everybody was working for a special. So you don't want to give up your material because you're like, you know, I'm. I'm working on this. I'm hoping I get it at that point. When I first started, it was Comedy Central. BET and HBO was pretty much the only three that had specials. So you realize I don't give up my material and there was no Internet. So even when you like, say a lot of my crowd work stuff goes out there, some of it isn't even crowd work. Like, I'm literally got cameras going and you don't know what's gonna happen. Like the thing that happened a couple months ago that just whenever was the guy that was arguing with the waiter over the drink. And they were. I was in a bit and it got. I got interrupted. So what's going on? And then come to find out he bought VIP tickets, but he didn't drink. And they were like, no, it's a two drink minimal. And he was more like, I paid all this money to sit in the front. I'll buy water. And they're like, nah. That was what the argument was over. Oh, we found out later, but it got heated. So then I started. I started literally like imitating four people as it happened. But that wasn't me going, I'm gonna do crowd work. That was just one of them things like lightning struck.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And we didn't see that coming. In the past, if you didn't have the cameras on, you didn't know.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

I do like the direction standups in right now. I think we're having a. We're taking out the power back from cancel culture. We're showing people like Andrew Schultz, Shane Gillis, they're showing like the Internet saying, we're going to cancel you. But their fans are going, no, you Ain't. You're not canceling us. And I, I, I love where we're at right now because, you know, you aren't at the mercy. Because I've heard people, I know guys that got Netflix specials and was like, upset at Netflix because they're like, Netflix tries to put rules on them. They're like, well, you can't do crowd work for the next six months or you can't post any clips. You know what I mean? They're like, what are you talking about? I mean, yeah, and then if, if you're paying me enough, fine, but if you're not paying me enough, I'm, I got to keep this going, people. You gotta look at it like it's your TV show now. It's your network. And if you don't do something for six months, it's like your network went dark.

[A]

Right?

[B]

For six months. You can't do that. You know what I mean? I know, I know a couple comics, it was like, man, Netflix, I got a special. But man, they put all these. We're not used to that. Yeah, you know, we, our YouTube, our tick tock. We can put what we want up there.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[D]

You talk about all these different comedians. Who is a comedian that you personally love the most?

[B]

God, there's a, there's a lot, I don't watch a lot of stand up because I always want to feel like my jokes are mine. But there's a guy that probably a lot of people don't know. His name's Pablo Francisco. When I first started, to this day, I don't think, has anybody been funnier Now I could watch him do the same 10 minutes every night. And I laughed and I would stop what I'm doing. Because when you first get to la, you're just open micing all the time, but you're seeing a lot of the same people. So you'll, you'll go to the Comic Club and there'll be 10 of you on the show and you're all getting five to 10 minutes. Anytime I saw this guy, Pablo Francisco, I don't care if I was in a lobby or whatever, I'd go in and watch. And then he just never took off. And that was 25 years ago. Wow. But, God, that guy was funny.

[D]

Okay, who's a comedian that you hate.

[B]

The most is this guy of Estonia. Oh, my God, this guy. This guy.

[D]

I do think Audi Mike feels a certain type of way right now because he probably thinks it's him.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't. I don't know if I hate anybody. No, I don't want. I don't want to burn any bridges. I don't want to burn bridges. I just say it's not a guy.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

You can figure it out. Okay.

[A]

One. One thing I wanted to ask you before we get to rapid fire is you went on the Breakfast Club, I think it was about a month ago, and you got into it with Jess. What's the other one?

[B]

No, Lauren LaRosa.

[A]

Lauren LaRosa.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I was just.

[D]

I saw you didn't know her name.

[A]

I know her name. I know your name. And it was kind of like, in my opinion, comics and some comics not wanting to take what they. What they give. How do you feel about that? Because you've been in the game for such a long time. We've had a number of comedians on the show as well, and it's like, if you can give it, you have to also be able to take, oh, 100 and play the game and go along with it. Did you feel like that was going on there with Jess Hilaris and Lauren LaRosa?

[B]

Oh, to me, it's all content. I don't give a shit about nothing people say about the Internet. I don't ever see something like, how dare they? You know what I mean? I'm gonna resp. But when I see you, I'm still gonna be like, man, you got me. Was really mad about that. Like, I was looking at. Like, he was really mad about that. I don't get mad about nothing. It's. And Charlamagne said it when it was happy. Because I just look at Gary, like, he's just doing content. When the. The. I've had a beef with Michael Blackson wasn't real. You know what I mean? We were texting each other. Used to say this. I'm gonna say this. You know what I mean? It's all Lauren LaRosa. Like, even when I know you're talking about. When it was the Kendrick Lamar thing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And Andrew Schultz, they. They had him on, and they said, what if. What if he was talking about Gary Owen? And Lauren was like, anybody check for Gary Owen? I go, ooh, I'm gonna respond. That's exactly what I was thinking. Like, I'm gonna get on my phone. I'm gonna say. And I go. And I bet you it gets traction. And sure enough, the Breakfast Club had it on. She responded, responded, and I was like, you know, to me, it's just all content. I don't give A about nothing. Even like you had the, the back and forth with Shaq and a couple other people over Angel Reese and like that I go, to me, it's all, it's all content. You know what I mean? You know, you, you, you having beef over Angel Reese was more exciting than the wnba. Let's be honest. Is boring. And if I get banned from all the WNBA games, I can care less. I'm not going to it. Oh my God.

[A]

I am not here.

[B]

WNBA is boring.

[D]

Oh my God. I've never been to a woman's basketball game in my life.

[B]

So who won the title two years ago? You don't know? I don't know. Las Vegas Aces. Yeah. Cuz they went like three years in a row. It's so boring.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

So boring.

[A]

Who was it that hosted, who is it that hosted the. The ESPYs this past year?

[B]

Shane Gillis. When he said the thing we all know it's boring. Nobody wants to admit it. They for they're force feeding it. They're like, oh, we gotta support. And then they're showing like Kevin Durant, Devin Booker at courtside. I'm like, this is. They're showing the court side. This is how boring it is. I got more excited seeing who's there. Oh my God. And then when the guys do the dildos on the court, finally some excitement. It's.

[D]

He got arrested too.

[B]

I know, but it sucks.

[A]

He is so invested in this.

[B]

It's so bad.

[D]

I liked your.

[B]

There's a difference.

[D]

I liked your bit on where you talked to the two gay couple in the audience. It was two women and you asked if their wedding was like the WNBA draft.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The wedding was like a WNBA draft. That was a good Houston. You can tell by the way they dress at the draft if they're straight or not. Like when they come out, that's what they used to say. They go so and so from Stanford. Oh, straight so and so from Baylor. Woo. This guy. You do know when they get dressed for them and drive, you're like, oh, straight gay pantsuits.

[A]

I don't know. You know.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

There's still a difference between like a, a female pantsuit and like a gay pantsuit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could tell by the walk. You could tell. You could tell.

[A]

Very talented. They're very talented women.

[B]

And it's so, you know, they are.

[A]

What are we doing? They are, they are talented women. And I'm. Listen, I'm glad. I am happy for a women's basketball that they Might be getting paid some more money.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

Listen, I want them to get their money.

[B]

That's great. It's boring, but I think. But honestly, I think golf's boring. I think golf's boring. Some people don't.

[A]

They pay a lot of money.

[B]

They do. I think it's boring as. I can't. When Tiger woods left, I couldn't watch it no more. There's always one person, like, I think Caitlin Clark is like that. Like, I'll watch her. That's why when people go at her, I'm like, you're an idiot. She's getting you guys first class private jets. It's because of her. Nobody else. Don't get it twisted. Nobody else. Tiger Woods. I loved it when Tiger woods got busted. No, I loved it when he got busted. Right. And all the golfers came at him sideways. Right.

[A]

It was their chance.

[B]

It was their chance. But the. The one guy was the. Who's the. The drinker, the belly and stuff. John Daly. He said, you guys are idiots. We all make more money when Tiger woods plays. He's the one guy stood up for him. I'm sure other guys did, but he was very vocal. Like, guys, when Tiger Woods. In the tournament, we all make more money.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's what they should do. And Caitlin Clark, she should get all the calls. No, no, no fouls. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

I mean, the number has gone up since Caitlin Clark has been in the league and everything, so.

[B]

And it's only her. Don't get it twisted. It's nobody else.

[D]

Robert has backed that up and said that.

[A]

Yeah, I have. No, I have. I have. And, you know, this is why I got into so much of the online commotion with. With Angel Reese and all that, because I'm a fan of basketball. Right. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Listen, we're laughing, having a good time. Women's basketball is not as exciting as men's basketball.

[B]

It's an. But it is my opinion that's boring. It doesn't mean everybody has to agree with it.

[A]

Yeah, correct. But I'm not. I don't know. I'm not trying to talk that back or anything. It's like. I get it. It's funny. Like, we hear you hear people say what they should do to change the game and make it more exciting and do all these different things.

[B]

Straight and lesbian. That's. That's. Should be the All Star game. That should be the All Star Game. Straight lesbian versus the lesbians. Yep. And then, look Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese can be on the same team.

[D]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[B]

I would watch it.

[D]

I'll probably watch it.

[B]

Watch that.

[A]

I think it would go viral everywhere.

[B]

Bam. Why wouldn't you watch it?

[A]

Why wouldn't you?

[B]

And what after party you going to? Because that's the thing. If you don't talk about them all star weekends, after parties, be lit. Which one are you going to?

[A]

Yeah, they were. They. They were doing the streaming for this last one. Yeah, they gave an inside look on, like, how crazy all that. That partying is. But, yeah, my point was we. I actually. I believe that Caitlin Clark is the reason. I think that there's other women before her that. That kind of paved the way and essentially had to make dollars, you know, pennies on a dime for them to make what they're going to potentially make here in the next couple of years. But without a shadow of a doubt, more people tuned in because of Caitlin Clark.

[B]

I'll put it like this. This is the best way I can do it. When we did. When we did, when I got Think Like a Man, right, it was a. It was a ensemble movie, right? So this thing called Favorite nations, where everybody gets the same amount of money, right?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I literally called my manager and age. I said, fall back. Don't negotiate for me, because we got bigger people on this movie than me. Let them negotiate. We just follow suit. Don't waste your time. Let them negotiate. It's favor nations, which means nobody's bigger than the other ones. And I knew where I was in the hierarchy of things, so I wasn't gonna be like, no, I deserve this. Right? I know. I know where I'm at in thing. I did a movie with. I did a movie with Tiffany Haddish a couple years ago, and they were like. They were trying to go. And we had Wesley Snipers in movie too, right? So they were like, you know, the. The One of the producers called me and they said, gary, don't. Don't take offense to this. They go, but, you know, your reps are trying to get you the same trailer as Tiffany. And I was like, you know, Tiffany's gonna get a bigger trailer than you. And that is something they talk about. Wow. Yeah. The size of your trailer. Yeah, that's things you negotiate on set. Yeah. Because you're. You're in your trailer a lot. You want to be comfortable. And I go, no, no. I know where I was at at that point for that movie. Tiffany deserved a bigger trailer than me. Because she was in that realm, quote unquote bigger than me. I didn't take no offense to it. I said, no, I'm good. Give me a double banger. Which means you split a trailer in half and I get half and somebody else gets out.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She got a whole one. No, but I wasn't mad. I knew where I was. It's like with these people with Caitlin Clark and you're not the same.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

She's getting the dollars. She's bringing the viewers. I watch for her. Angel Reese always said the best thing she ever did was do this at the game because it made her the villain. That was the best thing she could have ever did for her career. I agree. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I watch now cuz I'm, you know, I might root against her. But it's not cuz I don't like her. It's cuz she's the villain now. And it's good. It's good storytelling.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Really. Literally the only two people I would watch is Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark.

[A]

Now as somebody with, with a black woman, the main argument there has always been when you paint Angel Reese as the villain, even if she accepts the villain role, which I think she did.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It now becomes racial because now America is going to treat it as if you have the white knight and you have the angry black woman who is trying to destroy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Night I had had that conversation and on the public airways and tried to like make it be, understand like it can be about basketball. When everybody else makes it is whatever they make.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're not in control of that. But it's clear that there's something here. There's animosity, anger, whatever you want to call it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they're now the good guy and the bad guy. However you look at that, whoever you're a fan of, what are your thoughts on that?

[B]

What was Bill Lambert and Michael Jordan? Bill and Beer was a white guy. He was the bad guy. He embraced it. But Jordan was at the time the poster child for the NBA. But Bill wasn't Jordan. Yeah, but we all know Bill Lambert. Everybody knew Bill Lambert back then. And you love to hate him. So I just, you know, it is what it is. But race does have something to do with it. Yeah, we act like it doesn't. Come on now. Caitlyn Clark is not as big as she is. If she's black, she's just not. She's in a black dominated sport. Tiger woods is not as big as he is. If he's white.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

You know, wearing a black every time you see. Let a white American heavyweight come along. We tried to make Tommy Morrison that. And then Ray Mercer put an end of that quick, as you know, we tried. I was. I was in. I'm a guy that roots for the. The person that's not supposed to do what to do. So, yeah, I'm going to root for a white running back. You know what I mean? Just because we don't have a lot, I'm going to root for a black golfer. I'm going to root for a black hockey player. I always go for against the grain, you know what I mean? There's a white running quarterback. Get the out of here. Stop. I'm getting jerseys. That's what we do. That's why black people love. Start loving golf. Tiger Woods. Come on, stop acting like it's. We act like it doesn't happen.

[A]

It does.

[B]

There's a reason McAffrey was the number one selling jersey. There's a reason why Brian Erlacher was the number one selling jersey. Because Pip here's like, oh, my God, we're in there. We're good. We can do it. We can do it. Yeah, we're in. Yeah. We're good. Yeah.

[D]

All right, moving on to Rapid Fire. So this is a one answer question. Is that the correct way to say it?

[A]

Yeah. Like one word, one sentence?

[D]

Yeah, there you go. All right, Gary, who's funnier, your kids or your wife?

[B]

My kids.

[A]

What do you think about that?

[B]

What do you think about that? You don't think Ramen Royal.

[C]

He laughs at everything they do.

[D]

They can drop a ball. Oh, he's so funny.

[B]

Funny. And I also think they're going to be athletic like this. They're athletic.

[C]

One can barely run and he's like, wow, that's a star.

[B]

Whatever. My kid, without question.

[C]

Okay, fine, he can have it.

[D]

If you could swap lives with another comedian for a day, who would it be?

[B]

Ooh, Quincy Jones. Go. Really? Why people realize he dated a Bond girl and a Playboy bunny. Come on now. In the 60s. Oh, my God. I'll take anybody from the Rat Pack. Like they was running back in the day, you know, that. That type of power. I'm like this, people. So I had a TV deal with Quincy Jones, right? So I got to spend probably six, seven months, like, intimate with him, trying to put this show together at his house. We're trying to develop this show. The stories he used to tell me. And, you know, he wasn't lying. And I can't share a lot of them because I know I want to keep them to myself. But I'm like, they were amazing stories. Like, what one story I can share. Okay. So Frank Sinatra was doing a movie in Hawaii. He called Quincy to do the. The music to it, the score. And he literally is like, I think tomorrow it'd be good if we had some Navy ships back and forth in the ocean while we were shooting this scene. He called the chief of Naval operations. They got two Navy ships that just go back and forth all day. You don't have that kind of power anymore. Nobody can do it anymore. And the fact that the singer called, like, one of the most powerful people in the country, like, yeah, get a couple Navy ships. Let's go back and forth over shooting this movie. That doesn't cost anything. Like, that kind of power. I'm like, I don't want to be that guy. I want to be Sinatra, but I'd like to be Quincy. I like to be next to that guy. Be like, yeah, all right.

[D]

What's your spirit animal?

[B]

Probably like a dolphin.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

They're cool.

[D]

Brie.

[C]

Bambi. No, because I'm clumsy. Like, really clumsy.

[B]

He didn't believe me. That just made me a pedophile.

[A]

Bambi.

[B]

I think if Bambi walks like, you know, a. Do like a beer, a deer. Bambi was like a year old. Okay.

[C]

Bambi's mom, if she's clumsy too, I don't know.

[D]

Okay. I like it. If alien showed up and asked you to tell Earth's best joke, which one would you risk humanity on?

[B]

Earth's best joke?

[D]

Earth's best joke.

[A]

Best joke.

[B]

Like my joke or a joke?

[A]

Your joke.

[D]

I was. Okay. Your joke, your joke. It can't be a knock, knock joke.

[B]

No.

[A]

Whatever you want it to be.

[B]

Now, I'd probably do the God, because they want no church. I don't know if they know church. Probably the black and white church joke.

[A]

Okay, what's that?

[B]

That was strong. The difference between black and white churches, it's a long joke. I gotta keep their attention. I actually.

[D]

I actually have that in my rapid fire. Black church or white church?

[B]

White church. All day. Shorter.

[A]

30 minutes, 45 seconds.

[B]

Same with white weddings. Black weddings might be, you get to hear the music, but white weddings, you don't know what you're walking into. They will go from Garth Brooks to the Soulja Boy freaking jelly roll. It's like, what is going on? And the dancing is all. They're like, dancing to another song. Like, that doesn't go with this song. Ain't nothing like a white. My two sisters got married. We just went to my cousin's wedding.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It was just so entertaining.

[B]

Black. Black weddings. It's like you're at a club. You've been there, done that. White weddings all day. A super white, super. You know, where your girl's the only black girl there. I like those.

[C]

I was the only one. And I loved meeting them. It was a culture shock for sure.

[B]

But it was fun.

[C]

Oh, I had a blast.

[B]

It's so much better than to talk about. Yeah. And post videos on social media.

[D]

Yeah, it was great. That's good stuff. All right, if you had to describe your comedy style as a fast food restaurant, which one would it be?

[B]

Canes. Cane's Chicken.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's good. Put that little sauce on it. And now I'm in Texas. Get a little Texas toast on the side.

[D]

If Hollywood made a movie about your life, which actor would play you?

[B]

Oh, that's a good one, huh? Who played me? Maybe Steve Martin. Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I was. He's Steve Martin.

[A]

I was gonna say a young Woody Harrelson, you know?

[D]

Okay.

[B]

You know, Woody's from the same area as I am.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. His high school. My high school arrivals. He's a little older than me. Yeah. He went to Lebanon and I went to Talawanda. And that's all I used to say. Like, you know, Woody Harrelson went to this high school. I wonder if, like, they'll say that now, you know, Gary Owen went to this high school.

[D]

That's funny. All right, we're gonna finish the show off with your hometown highlights. What do you love the most about being a mom?

[C]

I think the tender moments that give me love and joy. It's the small moments that you don't get to see, you know, out in public. It's the smiles, the hugs, that I love you, mommy, and the bye byes. That's what I love the most.

[D]

Gary.

[B]

Same.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

I think being older and having the. The kids at my age. I was gonna say advanced age. Wow. But you just learn. You. You appreciate it more. I don't, like, take the most for granted, like, when I just see him doing nothing. Run around. Like this morning before I came here, they were running cars. One was running a truck here, and there was running here. I was just like, oh, this is life. Yeah. Yeah. This is life. Right? It's a little moment.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You got a little massage, and they're all into me. I was like, when does this end? You don't know anything.

[A]

Last question. I Got for you guys after the very public divorce that you went through.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What made her the one? Why. What made you feel like, you know what? I need to get back in the saddle. I need to get back into this thing. And. And she's the woman to do that with.

[B]

It's just a feeling. You gotta. You can't explain it. When you fall for somebody, you just know. It's hard to even put into words. It's like when you just. When you're away, you just want to be. Get back to him. You know what I mean? I think that's the thing. I was like, what am I. This is when I. This is when I think. I knew. I was. She came to visit me in Birmingham, and then the next week, I was in Atlanta, which is, like, black woman central. And I was like. I literally goes, you want to come to Atlanta? My boy's like, motherfucker, you invited her to Atlanta. It's like this. I don't know what I'm doing right now. I don't know what's going on. I think that's when I knew. I go, I brought this to Atlanta. Like, if you a white dude, if you like. Nah, you ain't a white dude. If you like black women. Like, yeah, Atlanta was, like, one of the top spots, right? I was like, yeah, I brought sand to the beach. I had a great weekend with her, my boy. I called some of my boys, like, I'm talking about club promoters, like, yo, I got a girl coming next week. I go set us up at this club, this spot. They go, you bringing a girl to Atlanta? I was like, yeah. They go, you bring her to this club? Yeah. It's like, my boy's looking at me like, what the is wrong? What is wrong with this guy? Yeah. I think that's when I know. I think it's when you're away and you just want to get back.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and I think, honestly, that's when I knew the last one wasn't gonna work out Because I wasn't rushing back home. I wasn't excited when I got home. You know, when home don't feel like home.

[D]

You know, I saw a cute video on Bree's page, too, where you were gone for whatever, and you ended up driving three hours in the middle of the night just to come spend a couple hours with her.

[B]

Yeah. She takes it home, blah, blah, blah. And I go, what's wrong? And I. I didn't even tell her I was 30 minutes on the road. She goes, is this show over? I Said, I'm on my way. And she's like, where are you? I said, I'm already on. She goes, no, no, I didn't want you to come. I go, too late. I'm already on the way.

[C]

I wanted him to, but I didn't really believe he's gonna drive three hours for. To be home for what, six hours to drive three hours back for his next show.

[A]

Yeah, that's real now.

[D]

I like that.

[B]

Yeah. And it paid off.

[D]

I mean, I had to repay.

[B]

You're on your period. We gotta deal with that later. It's not that time of the month, is it? Yeah. Come home. Oh, my God.

[D]

Oh, that's good.

[A]

Oh, that is hilarious. And that's the perfect way to end the show. We appreciate you guys coming on in and having the show. We'd love to have you guys on again. We're all here in Houston all the time, so we can definitely make that happen. And big fan of you, the work you've done.

[B]

Appreciate it.

[A]

Very excited for you and the special day that came out a couple months ago. It seems like you're doing better than you've ever done and continuing to climb. And hopefully we get you in some more movies and continue to hear your humor all over the Internet.

[B]

Yeah, I appreciate it.

[D]

Thank you so much, guys.

[C]

Nice to meet you guys.

[D]

Thanks for having us.

[A]

No problem at all. So make sure you guys like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. That's right. Go ahead with that. Clicker over, Move it over. Click, click, like and subscribe. Leave in the comments who you want us to be on the show next and what you want us to talk about. And lastly, from you, Gary Owen, who do you want on the show next?

[B]

Your show. Who you think should have on our show? No doubt. I want to see that interaction. You heard the man.

[A]

Let's make it happen.