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Sawyer Robertson
I had to make it my own, you know what I'm saying? I'm 18 years old, 15 hours away from. 15 hours away from home. And in my brain I'm thinking, what, where can I go that I have an opportunity to play? That at the end of the day, like, I have the best, best chance to play. What do I have? Like, what do I know is true? Like, what is my foundation of who I am? And it all just came back to back, back to my faith.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Like and subscribe to our YouTube page. Leave us a comment, Let us know who you want us to talk to and what you want us to talk about. And I promise you we will make that happen. Today we got a very special guest. This guy has one of the best comeback stories in all of college football. He just so happens to go to my alma mater. So we want to welcome the best quarterback in college football, Sawyer Robertson. Welcome to the show, brother.
Sawyer Robertson
Thank you for having me.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
It's an honor.
Greta Griffin
We like to start the show off by asking, how are you doing? Because a lot of people kind of use it as a throwaway statement, but how are you doing?
Sawyer Robertson
I'm doing great. Yeah. It's honestly a blessing to get to wake up, play football every day. And something that I've kind of been, you know, living out this year rather than last year has been like, I'm not going to be the Baylor quarterback forever. Right. And so just really like smelling the roses, taking all, all of it in, it's just been a blessing. And so I'm doing great, get to hang out with my friends, my teammates every day and just, just loving it.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Well, sorry, you've been a blessing not just to Baylor Nation, but also to the country. The, the way you've been playing and, and really your story, which you're going to get deeper into here in a little bit. But I want to ask you this question because it says a lot about a person, the way that they answer it. And it's going to sound like an interview question, but it's not interview question. So if someone was to ask you, who is Sawyer Robertson? What would your answer be?
Sawyer Robertson
It's a great question. First of all, I mean, I Think the first thing that I want people to think of when they hear my name and when they think of me and if they know me, is that my faith is the most important thing. And I want when people to see me, they see kind of me. Live that out, right? And so whatever interaction I have with somebody, I want them to leave the interaction thinking, like, man, just like, their day's a little brighter, the sun's shining brighter, Everything in life is better. That's kind of what. That's kind of my mindset. That's what I want people to think of me, you know, after I meet them and stuff. And just using kind of football in this platform as that vessel to do that is kind of what God has presented me with the opportunity to do. And so that's kind of just how I would describe myself. And that's what I want people to think of me when they. When they think about me.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
So speak to that. What does God mean to you? What does your faith mean to you?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, I'm very fortunate to have kind of the upbringing that I had with my parents. Had an older brother, grandfather was a Baptist preacher. And so just my Sundays growing up consisted of going to church in the morning, watching football the rest of the day, and then going back to church at night. And so that was just kind of growing up, giving my life to Jesus at a young age. But really, when I got to college was the first time that, like, I had to make it my own. You know what I'm saying? I'm 18 years old, 15 hours away from. 15 hours away from home, wasn't waking up and riding with my parents in the morning. You know, it was kind of like, okay, like, life is real at this point. I got to make decisions for myself. My reputation is like, all of that is like my own now, right? And just with. And I know. I'm sure we'll probably talk about it a little later, but, like, a lot of adversity, a lot of challenges there early on. And so it was really kind of like I was left there saying, like, man, like, what do I have? Like, what do I know is true? Like, what is my foundation of who I am? And it all just came back to my faith and what Jesus did, who Jesus was, and just relying on that promise that truth was kind of the foundation, built everything up on top of that. And now I'm at where I'm at now. And so I would say in a very Cliff Note version, that's what God means to me, and that's what my Faith means to me.
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Greta Griffin
You went to, you started off your college journey at Mississippi State to play for Mike Leach. Why, why do you think that that did not work out for you?
Sawyer Robertson
I think. Well, you said, why did it not work out? I think one, just being young, I kind of talked about 15 hours away from home was way harder than I realized, to be honest. And so I think just when I made the decision, it was kind of like, it was kind of like, man, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna play early, have a lot of success, and I'm gonna go play in the league, right? That's everybody, that's everybody's plan. And so went and did that. And I got there and for the first time in my life, it was like, I'm not the best, I'm not the best player on the field, you know, and I'm not saying that in like a arrogant way, but growing up, whether it was, you know, football, baseball, basketball, just confident in myself and my abilities and stuff and got to college and it wasn't like that. And so kind of that identity crisis that I was talking about when I first got to college, like, who am I? Like what? Like, I thought, I thought football was like my life, you know, I thought I was, I'm supposed to be this amazing football player. And for the first time kind of hit a wall. And so that played into it a little bit and then from there just fighting through that stuff. Leech was great to me, constantly speaking life into me. Encouraging me now, he'd get after me, too. He's still a coach at the end of the day, you know, he's still a coach, but constantly just that person that would call me in his office and just be encouraging. And then when he passed away, that was kind of the moment where I was like, you know what? I'm a long way from home, really. The reason I came out here to play football is now gone. And then football wasn't going the way I wanted it to. And so I was like, man, just a fresh start was probably the best in the cards for me. So that.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
What was the. What's the biggest life lesson that you take from your time with Mike Leach?
Sawyer Robertson
Honestly, that's a great. I love this question. The best one was, it's kind of funny because he was so. He was so, like, almost oblivious to everything. And you're kind of like. You're kind of like. You, like, people make jokes about it, like, dude, just look at him. Like, just watch. It's like people, you know, like, just look at him, like, watch what he does. And, like, you and I could be talking about him like this. He could be sitting right here, and he would have, like, no idea that we're talking about him or care. And so, honestly, that was the biggest thing is, like, dude, he didn't care what you or I said about him, what anybody else said about him. None of that mattered to him. Like, he was like. Like, he knew who he was. He knew what he was doing, and he trusted in that and didn't. Whether it was good things or bad things. Like, he didn't care about any of it. And so. And I think playing the quarterback position, that's such a big part. Like, the mental. The mental toughness, the mental strength to kind of have that to where it's like, no, man. Like, I'm confident in who I am. I know who I am, both on the football field and outside the football field. Talking about the faith a little bit as well. That was the biggest thing I learned from him, where I, like, for the first time, I actually saw it, like, dude, this guy doesn't care about, like, what other people think. Like, the. The approval of man. Not a thing to him. And so I kind of took that, and I, like, I was like, man, I need to apply that to my life.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Another guy that you were there with at Mississippi State was Will Rogers. I see the smile on your face. You can tell he's still. He's like, your guy.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
What did you learn, like, being, you know, Back up, backing him up, competing with him. What's the biggest lesson you learned from him?
Sawyer Robertson
Well, I thought, I thought Will was. And I think still I think Will is a great leader. And so for me, like I said, like I was always athletic, always had ability in high school and stuff, but I never had to like yell or talk in front of a team or anything like that. Right. Like, I was a little bit outside of my comfort zone, didn't want to do it. But as a quarterback, you know, I have to. Yeah, something you have to do, you're the guy, you know. And so I saw Will do that and so in my brain I was like, man, like, am I gonna have to do that one day?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I don't.
Sawyer Robertson
You know what I'm saying? Like, like people are gonna see right through me, think it's fake, all the stuff. And so I saw Will do that and I was just like, you know what? That's awesome, man, the competitiveness, such a competitor. I mean, he, he, like I said, I mean I thought I was athletic. Like he beat me in everything, whether it was ping pong, sprints, all the stuff. And so just having somebody like that, that pushed me because he probably didn't even know it, but I was just like trying so hard to compete with him and have somebody like that to push me, be competitive, be the leader. It was great for me as an 18 year old kid, young quarterback to just look up to. And then now to this day, I mean, I talked to him like a week ago, we Talked for like 30 minutes. Just maintaining that relationship has been awesome. I've kept up with him, he keeps up with me. We text after almost every game. And so he's been a blessing in my life.
Greta Griffin
No, I can, I can relate to your story that you're talking about so much. From moving away from home, having kind of an identity crisis and realizing for the first time in your life I'm not the best. Yeah, because I moved to the other side of the world to come to college in America. I went to Florida State and I had the same thing, identity crisis. I had never almost lost the track meet since I started running track and come to America and getting my butt kicked. Oh my God. But you had, you, you took the leap of faith and, and came to Baylor. So what made you make that decision? Or like, how did you come, who helped you make that decision to come to Baylor? Because you came to an offense that wasn't really suited for you, right?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, it's different, Trust me.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I told her all about it. Love Jeff Grimes. Right?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
But it's an offense where you're going to throw the ball maybe 20 times. You come from a system where you're going to throw it 40, 45 times, 50 times a game, which is what you did in high school. So what made you make that leap of faith to say, you know what, I'm going to go there?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah. Yeah. That's another great question. So after leaving Mississippi State, was fortunate to still have a few schools that reached out to me in the transfer portal. A lot of them being closer to home, which, like I said earlier, was a bigger thing for me because I didn't like being that far away from home. Just at 18 years old, struggled with it. And so Baylor was one of them. And so got to Baylor. Obviously the offense was different. The wide zone offense, hand the ball off a lot. And in my brain it's like, okay, yeah, I'm not used to it. Don't know what it's going to be like. Want to throw it around a little bit more. That's what I did in high school. That's what I did at Mississippi State. But in my brain, I'm thinking, you know what, I need to learn how to take in. I'm going to be. My end goal is to play in the NFL, right? I'm going to be taking under center snaps in the NFL. I'm going to be calling plays in the huddle in the NFL. So I might as well get used to it in college, right? I might as well. Might as well learn it while I'm still in college. And in my brain I'm thinking, where can I go that I have an opportunity to play, that at the end of the day, like, I have the best chance to play. And Blake at the time was a starter at Baylor. He was a year older than me. And so at the. I was thinking, Blake's gonna play his year, years, whatever it was, and then I'm gonna get that last season, that last shot to play and play in a system that I would eventually be running in the NFL. And I mean, with college football, there's so many uncertainties. Like, if I had. If you told me then, like, where I would be now and what would have happened for me to get here now? I'd be like, like, what in the world, you know, like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't believe you, but like, here we are. But at the time, that was where my headspace was at, is like, okay, where do I. Where will I have an opportunity to play? And then with the offense. It was like, I'm be doing that in the NFL anyway, right? Like, yeah, so might as well, might as well get comfortable doing it.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
So you talk about, you've mentioned a couple times, like, being far away from home, you're from Lubbock, Texas, and you go to Mississippi State. Give us an example of, like, what that struggle was like, the mental side of it as well, because I think that's a big part of the game. It's mental health. But it's also just like the mental fight you have with yourself when you're in situations that maybe you're not used to or comfortable in. What's an example of something that you were really struggling with?
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Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, it would be like, it would be like, so went there strolling with football. Like I wouldn't come home and have things like, like my mom, dad, brother to like, get my mind off of football. And so I'll go back to the dorm, had homework, like all that stuff, but went back to the dorm and I was like, I need to go back to the facility and like, like throw some more. Like, get out of the slump. I need to like, work harder, watch more film. Like, just like everything, like holding on to, like, every little thing that I can do better. Instead, it's like, honestly giving it to God and letting him just, like, take over. And I was just so. I remember being so, like, uptight, worrying about, like, if I made a bad throw, like, oh, no. Like, what did this coach think? Like, that kind of stuff. Like, just very, like, young stuff. Right? Not. I wasn't mentally tough. And so that was the biggest thing, being far away from home was I didn't have the things that I could get my mind off of football when I needed to get my mind off of football. There's a difference between, like, being focused and being locked in and, like, just being, like, consumed and, like, letting it almost, like, become an idol for you or it's just like this, where it's forming bad habits and just getting worse and worse and worse and just going like this mentally.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Right.
Greta Griffin
Was it almost like a freeing feeling when you finally came back to Texas?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, it was. It was a little bit, for sure. You know, just. And Baylor specifically. And you can speak on this, too. Like, Baylor, like, the community, the people around Baylor, there's just so many resources and so many people that are willing to pour into you both on and off the football field. Now, the people at Mississippi State were great, too. Like, I. Like, I remember. I tell this story all the time. I came home from practice one time at Mississippi State, and my neighbor, who I like didn't really know, knocks on my door and he's like, hey, just pulled some steaks off the grill like you want. Like, that's how it was. Southern hospitality. It's real. Like, people were great at Mississippi, too, but at Baylor, it was just. It was just. It was just different with all the. With all the resources that are willing to pour into you. And so that was kind of like. That was the biggest thing, the most freeing thing that, like, you were kind of talking about. When I got to Baylor, it was like, wow. Like, this place is awesome.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, we've. We've had this conversation before, but I remember, you know, meeting you for the first time at the, you know, RGG Football Academy, the camp that we do here at Baylor every single year, and we had that conversation, and you're the same guy from that time that you are today. You're just playing better.
Sawyer Robertson
Right?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
And we sat there on the field and we just talked. Yeah, I remember. It wasn't like, hey, what am I? What's my read on three verts or four verts or this or when I do a play action pass. We didn't talk about any of that. We just talked about faith.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
And we talked about your journey going from Mississippi State and like, you were one of the best high school quarterbacks ever. I can't even make that claim as far as, like, stats wise in high school and to go from being the guy to now coming to Baylor to run an offense that you're not familiar with and then to lose the starting job or competition two years in a row, essentially, how did that impact you and how did you lean on your faith to get through that?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, it's funny, somebody. I was talking to a class the other day, I got asked to talk to, like a freshman engineering class. I know nothing about engineering, but I did it. And one of the kids asked me. He was like, he's like, you seem like, like, really down to earth, like, humble. He's like, like, where does that come from? How? Like, with the accolades, with the statistics, all that stuff. And I wanted to be like, brother, if you knew all the failures, if you knew all the, like, bad that had. It's like the iceberg picture, right? Where you see, like, the tip of the iceberg and under, it's like all the, like the. It's even bigger. That's kind of like it's all the failures is under. And then like, they see the, like, the success, that little piece of success, and that's where the question comes from. But I want to be like, dude, if you knew all the failures and how many times I've been humbled, like, you wouldn't even think to ask that question, really. And so speaking to your point a little bit, I just think, like, losing the competition for whatever four years, right. I was going to my fourth year as the backup, and then when I did play in 2023, played horrible. Just like all the failures, it was just so humbling for me and so thinking to it where it's like, okay, if I was playing at the level that I'm kind of playing at right now, that happened to me at 18 years old, my freshman year. There's no telling how that would affected the person that I am, right? How that, like, who I'd be, who I'd be hanging out with, just the action that what I'd be doing, all the stuff. And I think it was honestly just God's way of, like, protecting me from myself in a way, like, I wasn't ready for it. And he knew that. And so he was like, no, you're gonna wait. Like, he needed to humble me a little bit, to be honest. And that's exactly what happened.
Greta Griffin
I'm assuming you're welcome to college football moment was when you got to Mississippi stage and you realized, damn, I'm not the best quarterback anymore.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, absolutely.
Greta Griffin
And so. But what was your moment of realizing I'm him, You know, I'm that guy.
Sawyer Robertson
Man. Well, I mean, first it took me four years to kind of get. So I was a little behind. It took me four years to actually kind of have any kind of success whatsoever. And so even then when it was like, wow, like, hey, like, this is. This is fun again, you know?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Right.
Sawyer Robertson
It wasn't like. Like, I was. I had failed so much at that point where it wasn't ever like, man, like, this is all because of me. Like, go, me. You know, all that stuff. So I realized I learned that lesson quick. But I would say it was a cool moment when we. When we beat Texas Tech last year in Lubbock, because at that point, we're 2 and 4 on the year, right? After going 3 and 9 the season before. So I don't even know what. I mean. Quick math. That's 5 and 13, right?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah.
Sawyer Robertson
Bad deal. You know, great math. Was it? Right?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
It was right. I think.
Sawyer Robertson
I think it was right. We'll just go with it. Um, but that's a bad deal, right? And so then we're going into. I think Tech was like, they're at the top of the Big 12 at the time. I don't know if they lost a Big 12 game. And then we scored 59.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah.
Sawyer Robertson
And it was like, okay, like, we figured something out. It was after the bye week. Okay, we figured something out. Like, we can compete. Like, we just have to do it, like, when you have to learn how to win. Right? And there were so many games that we played during that stretch where it was like we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, where it was like, there's no way we lose this game. Right? Well, we found a way to lose the game. It's just like how you're sitting in the locker room after, like, just disappointed, and you're just like, how. And so we. We got over that hump against Texas Tech in Lubbock last year. That was especially cool for me because I'm.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I'm from Los Angeles in front of the home.
Sawyer Robertson
So that was kind of the first time where it was like, wow, okay, like, we can do this. Like, let's keep doing it. And then we ended up winning six in a row. And so that was cool last year.
Greta Griffin
And it's hard to win In Lubbock. Because Robin called the game this year in Lubbock and it was homecoming, Blackout game, like 8pm and the atmosphere was fireworks.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Everyone in the town, is there a.
Greta Griffin
Drone show in the middle of the game in the sky? And I'm like, how are you supposed to focus?
Sawyer Robertson
Love it gets rowdy now Love it gets rowdy now. I lived there for 18 years.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
So yeah, I was gonna say for you, you guys used to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, right? I love that. That's just a great phrase. It's not the first time I've heard it, but it's just a great phrase. But then this year, you guys snatched victory out of the jaws of defeat against smu. How did that show you that this team and your leadership had grown to a point where even when you're down and out, you guys can still find a way to go get the W?
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, absolutely. It was kind of a, I mean, similar situation to Tech where we're in Dallas. They'd gone to the College Football Playoff last year, won I don't know how many games in a row. Very good team, very talented team. And it was just kind of speaking to my point where it was like, we just like learned how to win. Like everything you do is like competitive. Like you, like you gotta win. And so kind of got a taste of that at the end of last year. And then going into this year, Auburn didn't go the way we wanted to. SMU were in the game. We're in the game like those, those tight games. I mean, you gotta be your best players have to play their best in those moments like that. And so obviously have a lot of weapons, a lot of guys that contributed to that win. But when it came down to it, we got the job done. And I would argue it's because we learned how to win in practice. We learned how to win playing ping pong. We learned how to win the off season sprints. Like you just got to win. Like having that competitive drive to win in those moments contribute to how Saturdays go in the fall. And I think you saw too, with Kansas State down 14 again in the fourth quarter, we should stop putting ourselves in those positions. But learning how to win those games is huge because it's hard to win, especially it's hard to win conference games. And all of those wins stack up at the end of the year when things are getting decided. And so being able to pull both of those games was huge.
Greta Griffin
You got anything else before I move.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
On to rapid fire? I got one last one I want to say this to compliment you. Right. It's obviously not criticism, it's praise. But I want you to enjoy this praise, because I feel like last year, you know, I sent out a tweet when you guys were 2 and 4, and a lot of people were talking to me about, like, hey, what's going on with Coach Dave Aranda? And there's a lot of stuff swirling around. And I put out a tweet and I said, you know, the locker room is going to determine if he's still there or not. Yeah. And I feel like your leadership, your play, obviously, but you talk about we. Your leadership of the team to go on, go down the stretch and win six in a row to finish the season is the reason that you're in the position you are, but it's also the reason that Coach Aranda is still here. And to me, watching you guys so far throughout this year and how well you've played, I just wanted to ask you particularly, how has Dave Aranda made you a better player and a better person? And what does he mean? Media?
Sawyer Robertson
Aranda has actually. Aranda's been awesome. Kind of. It's kind of similar to the leech thing, where it's like, I told him the other day, I was like, did you? Like, you don't have a great job, to be honest. You know, I know, like, everybody, every coach wants to be a head coach, but I'm sitting there and it's like, you know, just some of the stuff, like, you lose, you lose a game. Just, like, the nature of the sport, right? Every. Like, there's one champion at the end of every year, and every other fan base is a disappointment in some way, shape or form. And, like, you lose a game and, like, everybody wants a new coach, right? And then you win a game and it's like, okay, well, you didn't win by enough. It's just like, why would anybody, like, sign up on it? Like, why would you? So I told him. I was like, dude, you do have, like, a pretty bad job. I'm sure he loves it. He handles it great, you know, and.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I see it on the sideline all the time. He's got the right facial expression.
Sawyer Robertson
And so, honestly, like, what I've learned is it's similar. It's very similar to the Leech day. It's like, that dude shows up and goes to work and works his butt off every single day. And it's like, it's inspiring, honestly, because I'm sitting there and I'm like. I'm like, like, you go to war for guys like that.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Oh, yeah.
Sawyer Robertson
And so I think that's what you saw with our team and how we responded last year and how we're playing this year is like, yeah, that's our leader. And we see, I mean, the three and nine year, the criticism that he took, all the stuff that he's been through, and it's inspired. It's inspired us to go out there and go to war for him. And, you know, I got so much respect for him and I'm super thankful that he's my head coach.
Greta Griffin
Sweet. All right, we have a little segment called Rapid Fire. It's just, you know, easy, light hearted questions for you.
Sawyer Robertson
Okay. How fat? How rapid?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, it could be one, two words. It could be three sentences.
Sawyer Robertson
Okay, okay, okay.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
We might linger a little bit.
Sawyer Robertson
I'll try to keep.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
We might let the fire build, you.
Greta Griffin
Know, ask follow up questions in the.
Sawyer Robertson
Rapid fire, which I always try to be.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Sometimes you give great answers. I'm like, I want to hear more.
Greta Griffin
What's a pregame hype song?
Sawyer Robertson
Oh, I gotta listen to stuff that calms me down. It doesn't matter. I just gotta listen to stuff that calms me down because I'm. I'm like amped up already. And so if I listen to like young boy or something, I'll be like, I'll be over the top.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Okay, so what's the. What's the calm Me down song?
Sawyer Robertson
It can be. It can range from any kind of like worship music or like, I'll throw on like reggae every once in a while.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Reggae?
Sawyer Robertson
Little Bob Marley. Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Oh, my God. That video of the guy doing reggae, the white guy singing.
Sawyer Robertson
And the karaoke thing, Is that what you're talking about? I. Dude, I know exactly what video. I know exactly what video.
Greta Griffin
Everybody has the same Instagram feed. All right, what's your favorite uniform combo?
Sawyer Robertson
The gold helmets with the black.
Greta Griffin
That's a nice one.
Sawyer Robertson
Or all white. I like all white.
Greta Griffin
Who's a QB you studied the most growing up?
Sawyer Robertson
Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck?
Greta Griffin
That's good.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I love Andrew Luck.
Sawyer Robertson
Okay, but here's. Okay, our skill set is way different, but you're a really good athlete. You're a really good athlete. Maybe our skill set is I cannot do this. Things that you do. I apologize for that answer, but I feel like it's. I feel like that's fair. I feel like that's.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
They're going to cut that, so.
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Sawyer Robertson
Perfect.
Greta Griffin
All right, who's the funniest guy in the locker room?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Ooh.
Sawyer Robertson
We have a lot. Trig is up there. Kobe Prentice is up there.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Okay.
Sawyer Robertson
You know, I'll give my guy Nate Bennett a shout out. One of the QBs. He's a funny guy, and so great locker room.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Stay right there. Why is Michael Trigg the best tight end in the country?
Sawyer Robertson
He catches everything you throw at him. He's not afraid to put his body on the line to block. Great locker room guy. Great teammate. I mean, I think the numbers. I think the numbers speak for themselves, too.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah. Sometimes he doesn't even need two hands. He just catches with one.
Sawyer Robertson
Doesn't Three fingers.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Really?
Greta Griffin
That's all you need. If football didn't exist, what would Sawyer Robertson be doing today?
Sawyer Robertson
Probably playing baseball.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Okay.
Greta Griffin
You didn't say golf. Look at that.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
You did not say golf.
Sawyer Robertson
I golfed. Over the bye week. I hit some golf balls.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I did.
Greta Griffin
What's your favorite place to eat in Waco Cafe.
Sawyer Robertson
Cappuccino is on my mind. It's a great place. And then, you know, just the way George's. Jorge's are great. And then I'll go to Ichiban every once in a while, get a little hibachi.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Diversifying his bonds offsetting that. Wu Tang. Found out.
Greta Griffin
What's your dream Nil deal?
Sawyer Robertson
I actually. I did a meet and greet at Bass Pro Shops, and I feel like that's perfect. I feel like that's perfect for me. I got hooked up with the. With a new rod, and they took care of me, so I think that's. I think that's perfect.
Greta Griffin
Congrats.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Shout out Bass Pro Chef.
Greta Griffin
What's your favorite Nil purchase that you've made?
Sawyer Robertson
I. So I bought a. It was half Christmas, half me buy. So my. I got, like, a rack for my truck, and I bought a rooftop tent that goes on top of it. So it's like. It just looks like a case right now. And then whenever I'll go camping, like, you just fold it up, and it's like a tent on the back of my truck.
Greta Griffin
Oh, sweet. That's pretty cool.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Wow. Wow. That's the most descriptive purchase I've said I've heard.
Sawyer Robertson
So. So, like, the. The rack was the Christmas. And then I bought the. I bought the tent.
Greta Griffin
Okay.
Sawyer Robertson
It was great. I only got it in, like, I got it not even a year ago, so I haven't gotten to use it yet.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I was gonna say, have you used.
Sawyer Robertson
Haven't gotten to use it yet. It's recent. It's recent. But you can see it on my truck.
Greta Griffin
My truck is that an offseason bucket list for sure.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
For sure. How has nil changed your life?
Sawyer Robertson
I think and I think there's a lot of ways, but the biggest thing is just like managing, managing money, right. You know, it's like just kind of like talking to my dad about stuff. It was just like, you know, what are you like how are you going to use your money, spend, save, invest all this stuff. And so just kind of managing, managing the Money that like 10 years ago was not, was not even a thing. Right.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I remember.
Sawyer Robertson
And, and then. Right. And being, and being young while doing it and just kind of learning how to, learning how to, how to handle your money at a young age or a younger age than what the average 20 year old kid would. Would have.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
What would be your advice to some of your 18, 90 year old teammates who are coming into more money than really most 18 or 19 year olds can manage? What would be your advice to them?
Sawyer Robertson
Invest for sure.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Probably.
Sawyer Robertson
And if you don't know, if you don't know like how or what that even looks like, I'd say like, do your research because it's worth it. Or even like I think financial advisors are like big now kind of getting into that stuff. And so even if it's like hiring a financial advisor, I think those things are very important.
Greta Griffin
Smart guy who's the unsung hero of this Baylor football team? Ooh, guy that does not.
Sawyer Robertson
Okay, okay, I'll give a broader answer, but I'm a big. I have a heart for the scout team guys, right? The guys that, the guys that give the looks every day in practice for the other team and don't. Might not get the praise or all the accolades on Saturdays, might not even play on Saturdays. But those guys are working their tails off given the guys who are going to play the right look, playing hard. And so the scout team guys are definitely 100% the unsung heroes really should be for every team.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Okay, don't stay there. This is what I do. Who is the scout team, Scotty? Everybody. Every team's got one. The guy that just goes hard.
Sawyer Robertson
We have, there's a. We have a couple. We have one up. We have one D lineman Zetti, who just, I mean he wreaks havoc on our line and he does a great job. He makes him better. I really believe he makes them better, you know, and so that's important. That's important to have a guy like that. Now they might be grumpy or in a bad mood, like might not have gotten their sleep. All that and so like, he'll wake them up in the morning when. If they're not on their stuff and so shout out Zetti.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
There you go.
Greta Griffin
What's a harder position to play? A QB or db?
Sawyer Robertson
It's gotta be qb.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Thank you.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, it's gotta be qb.
Greta Griffin
You have to describe Coach Aranda in one word. What would you say?
Sawyer Robertson
Philosopher.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
He's a philosophizer. Yes.
Greta Griffin
Night game or noon? Kickoff.
Sawyer Robertson
Home or away?
Greta Griffin
Home.
Sawyer Robertson
Night game.
Greta Griffin
Away.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Noon.
Greta Griffin
So you can come home.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, absolutely. And the crowd, you know, the crowd isn't.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
You know, they're not.
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Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Greta Griffin
Every QB has like a weird pre game kind of ritual, whether it's music, any superstitions. What's yours?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Mmm.
Sawyer Robertson
I'm not a huge. I'm not a huge superstition guy. Kind of used to be like, do everything the same. But then when something would get like out of rhythm, I'd be like, the game's ruined. You know? So I tried to work away from the superstitions, I guess. Something weird that I got. I don't eat really a lot on game day. I'll eat breakfast. If it's an 11am kickoff, I'll eat like, you know, some fruit, something light. I don't eat a whole lot on game day. I just feel like I can't. Like I'm too, you know, locked in, whatever it is. So I had something weird that I do, I guess is I just don't eat even after the game. Like, I don't. I don't eat a whole lot. Yeah, you're starving on the. And so Sunday rolls around, I got to get the weight back up.
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
So he can eat. I'm using that. Next time I call for you, I'm using. What's the weirdest thing or superstition one of your teammates has?
Sawyer Robertson
I'm trying to think. I mean, we've got to have. I mean, I love them, but we have some smelly dudes and I just know they haven't. I just know they haven't washed their stuff. I just know. Even if it's glove, gloves are some of them. You know, gloves are some of the. Most people. Don't people think, like underwear, socks, like all this stuff. Our equipment guys do great job with all of that stuff. But the gloves. People don't realize the gloves are what is like the stinkiest.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Really think that sweaty hands, just smelly. They just don't wash them.
Sawyer Robertson
It's bad.
Greta Griffin
That's disgusting.
Sawyer Robertson
Bad deal.
Greta Griffin
All right, if you could call one QB right now, dead or alive, who would you call and what would you ask?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Mmm. Wow. Might have to reach into the grave. I don't know.
Sawyer Robertson
I'm trying to think of. I would call. I would call Tim Tebow.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Ooh. Okay.
Greta Griffin
Why would you ask him?
Sawyer Robertson
I would ask him what lifts he does to look the way he does. Honestly.
Greta Griffin
Those quads.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Those quads.
Sawyer Robertson
He's huge, man. He really is. Massive human being.
Greta Griffin
I watched Tim Tebow at the Heisman Trophy ceremony two years ago.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yep.
Greta Griffin
No, like, the Robert was a dsb. And then they bring, like, the snacks for the team to the back, like, whoever wants what. And Team Tebow had an entire white chocolate bar. Not like a little Snickers or whatever, like an entire bar. And ate it within, like, two minutes. The entire bar. Like a big old bar with chocolate. Just sat down, ate the whole thing.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah.
Sawyer Robertson
That's crazy. That's pretty impressive. You know what else blows me away is, like, the people. I think it was DK Metcalf who's, like, talked about his diet, and it was like, gummies.
Greta Griffin
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah.
Sawyer Robertson
And you're like, how do you look like that?
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Because he's lying. It's just for dramatic effects. Yeah.
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Build my body by gummy bears.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
I'm gonna leave it at that. Well, first of all, I want to say thank you. Thank you for coming on the show. It's been an amazing conversation. I think anybody that watches this is going to get a chance to get to know you a little bit better and understand just how important God and faith has been in your life. Everybody loves a great comeback story. You got. You've got the greatest comeback story in all sports, and your story is relatable. There's a lot of people out there who are going through things that maybe in the beginning, when they started on their journey, it didn't go the way they wanted it to.
Sawyer Robertson
Right.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
And for you to be able to come back from that the way that you have and lean on your faith and be the leader that you are. And like I said, the guy that I talked to two years ago on that field about faith, that really, you weren't even sure if you were gonna play.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah. Right.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Like, ever again. And I just feel great that now I get a chance to talk to you. We get a chance to talk to you, and you're, like, the best quarterback in all of college football. And I know I keep saying that, but it's the truth. And the way you play. And I don't think there's anybody in college football, that was a better box fade than you. And we can have that conversation another day. But I want you now to look at your camera and I want you to take a moment, take however long you want and just tell your teammates how much you appreciate them for riding with you, rocking with you and helping you become the player that you are and the man you are today.
Sawyer Robertson
Yeah, absolutely. To all my teammates, Baylor nation.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Super.
Sawyer Robertson
Thankful for not just what we get to do every Saturday, but all the memories we've made both on and off the football field, off season training, all the blood, sweat and tears, just getting to celebrate wins in the locker room. After winning on Saturdays, this is the most special thing to me. It's why I think work, it's why I think we should work as hard as we do is because those moments like that I'll never forget. And I love every single one of you guys and I'm looking forward to doing that for many more Saturdays to come.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Appreciate you, brother man. We hope you guys really enjoyed that incredible conversation with Baylor quarterback Sawyer Robertson.
Greta Griffin
And everybody loves a comeback story. And Sawyer Robinson literally has one of the best comeback stories in college football this year.
Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Yeah, he does. And it's all about fighting. You know, there's such a resemblance to fighting in everybody's lives that we can all resonate with. And speaking of fighting, we're big boxing fans and we can't let you guys get out of here without letting you know about the big time boxing fight that's coming up this weekend. You got Riad, I think it's in Riyadh. Yes, the big Ring 6, Ring 6 Ring 6 event. So we got David Benavidez going up against Anthony Yard. Devin Haney is going to be fighting.
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Robert Griffin III (RG3)
Rodriguez is also going up against Fernando Martinez. There's so much of life that can be embodied in fighting and that's why we love the boxing game. So we hope that you guys come out and check that out. This weekend should be a lot of fun. We definitely will be watching it, but we appreciate you guys tuning in out of pocket with RG3 hosted by your boy and the lovely and amazing 98 time all American, Greta Griffin. Leave a comment for us, let us know who you want us to talk to next. Let us know what you want us to talk about and we're going to make that happen. This is a fan driven show, so we're going to give you guys what you want to see. We appreciate you. See you next time. Peace out.
Episode: How God Turned Sawyer Robertson Into the Greatest Comeback Story in College Football
Date: November 17, 2025
Host(s): Robert Griffin III ("RG3"), Greta Griffin
Guest: Sawyer Robertson (Baylor University Quarterback)
This episode dives into the inspiring journey of Baylor’s quarterback Sawyer Robertson, exploring his faith-driven approach to adversity and how he overcame profound setbacks to become one of college football’s most remarkable comeback stories. Robertson openly discusses his struggles and growth through transfers, coaching changes, competition, and personal challenges—highlighting the influential roles of faith, leadership, and support on his football and personal path.
Faith as His Core:
Upbringing:
Strategic Transfer Choices:
Adversity & Mike Leach’s Influence:
"He didn't care what you or I said about him...he knew who he was and trusted in that."
— Sawyer [06:50]
Learning from Teammates:
The Transition to Baylor:
Mental Toughness:
Coping With Setbacks & Faith:
“He works his butt off every single day...it's inspiring, honestly, because...you go to war for guys like that.” [25:04]
On Superstitions:
If Football Didn’t Exist:
QB Call:
Appreciation Segment:
“Thankful for not just what we get to do every Saturday, but all the memories we’ve made both on and off the football field...those moments like that I’ll never forget.” [37:11]
On Facing Adversity:
"It's all the failures under...they see the success, that little piece of success, and that's where the question comes from. But...if you knew all the failures and how many times I've been humbled, like, you wouldn't even think to ask that question, really." — Sawyer [17:03]
On Coach Leach:
"He didn't care what you or I said about him...he knew who he was...the approval of man. Not a thing to him." — Sawyer [06:50]
On Leadership and Support:
“Leadership of the team to go...win six in a row to finish the season is the reason that you're in the position you are, but it's also the reason that Coach Aranda is still here.” — RG3 [23:11]
On the Meaning of Faith:
“I was left there saying, like, man, like, what do I have? Like, what do I know is true? Like, what is my foundation of who I am? And it all just came back to my faith...” — Sawyer [02:51]
Sawyer Robertson’s story is a testament to the power of humility, faith, and perseverance in college athletics. The episode offers an unfiltered look into the realities of being a highly-touted recruit facing disappointments, the transformative power of mentorship, and the importance of personal growth over statistical achievement. Sawyer’s humility and clarity make this both a motivational and personal episode for athletes and non-athletes alike.
[End of Summary]