Jalen Hurts is being mistreated by the media + Shedeur Sanders QB1, Tiger Woods rehab and UCLA Dominamce

Summary

Outta Pocket with RG3 — Episode Summary

Title: Jalen Hurts is being mistreated by the media + Shedeur Sanders QB1, Tiger Woods rehab and UCLA Dominance
Hosts: Robert Griffin III (RG3) & Grete Griffin
Date: April 6, 2026

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Overview

This episode dives "outta pocket" into several major sports stories: the media's ongoing mistreatment of Jalen Hurts, the scrutiny faced by young QB Shedeur Sanders, the cultural clash involving legendary college basketball coaches Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley, Tiger Woods' latest troubles and what it means for golf, and the UCLA women's basketball team's historic championship run. The duo also covers feel-good and out-of-pocket moments in sports, bringing candid insights, passion, and humor throughout.

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1. Jalen Hurts: Mistreatment by the Media

Timestamps: 01:01 – 10:15

Key Points:

• Media Criticism: Recent anonymous reports question Hurts' coachability, leadership, and relationships.

  • RG3: “Jalen Hurts is being abused by the media right now... Those anonymous sources, they must be campaigning for an ass whooping. And I can tell you, right now, they’re about to get elected.” (02:04)

• Defending Hurts’ Record:

  • 57-25 as an NFL starter.
  • 21 TDs to just 3 INTs in 10 playoff games.
  • Played for top coaches (Nick Saban, Lincoln Riley), son of a coach.
  • Comparisons to Burrow, Herbert, Tua, and Love: “Jalen Hurts has six career playoff wins, which equals that combined total of all other quarterbacks from the 2020 NFL Draft class...” (03:26)
  • Outperforms peers in efficiency and win percentage.

• Unequal Scrutiny:

  • Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott face more severe criticism than their white peers.
  • “The hate has to be bigger than football.” (05:03)
  • RG3 questions shifting standards: “If winning is the standard, then why do we keep moving the goalposts when Jalen Hurts wins?” (07:10)

• Insider Quotes:

  • Levante David (former opponent) questioning Hurts’ respect level; C.J. Gardner-Johnson pushes back against the media narrative.
    • “A lot of times in the media, we bait former players or current players to dish on the quarterbacks.” (08:26)

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2. Shedeur Sanders & Media Perception of QBs

Timestamps: 10:15 – 14:35

Key Points:

• Shedeur’s elevated visibility and scrutiny “follows him at every level since his childhood” due to his father, Deion Sanders.
• Critics conflate confidence with arrogance; his leadership style is debated.
• Cleveland Browns’ mishandling: not giving him first-team reps, then forcing Sanders into starting with little preparation.
  • “He was set up to fail.” (11:41)
  • Browns won more with Shedeur under center than any other option.
• RG3: “Now is the time for the Cleveland Browns to say Shedeur Sanders is our starting quarterback... The media in Cleveland is trying to bury Shedeur Sanders before he can even pick the football up in the off season program.” (13:24)
• Broader warning against organizations drafting young QBs they don’t fully support.

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3. Viral Spiral #1: Geno Auriemma vs. Dawn Staley ("Handshake-Gate")

Timestamps: 14:35 – 23:55

Key Points:

• Incident: Geno Auriemma upset at perceived pregame handshake slight from Dawn Staley, leading to media firestorm.
  • “Geno is dead ass wrong. Let’s just call a spade a spade.” (15:36)
  • Cultural and racial undercurrents reminiscent of Angel Reese vs. Caitlin Clark.
• Media Shift: Focus diverts from game and athlete performances to coach drama.
  • “He made it about him and a perceived slight. And it takes away from the beautiful game of basketball.” (16:43)
• Impact:
  • Rivalries can boost exposure but may detract from athlete achievements.
  • Grete: “You should know how to at least control your emotions better, if not for yourself, for your team.” (19:33)
  • Both hosts agree: rivalries elevate the sport, but too much public criticism distracts.

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4. UCLA’s Dominant Championship Run (Feel-Good Story of the Week)

Timestamps: 23:58 – 29:05

Key Points:

• Historic Stats: 71–4 over two seasons, first NCAA title, dominated South Carolina 71–51.
• Legacy: “This year’s UCLA team belongs among the greatest women’s college basketball teams of modern era.” (24:49)
• Seniors' Role: Six seniors scored all the points in championship game.
  • Standouts: Gabriela Jaquez (21 pts/10 reb), Lauren Betts (14 pts/11 reb), Kiki Rice, Gianna Kneepkens, Charlisse Leger-Walker, Angela Dugalic.
• RG3: “Dynasties are built on continuity, not just talent anymore. And experience is what’s winning championships.” (28:49)

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5. Viral Spiral #2: Tiger Woods’ Latest Setback

Timestamps: 29:05 – 36:08

Key Points:

• Tiger Woods’ car crash, injuries, and entering rehab force him to miss the Masters, prompting discussion about the end of his era.
• Emotional Impact:
  • “Absolutely. It’s sad... With Tiger, you just hope that he’s okay mentally.” (30:01–30:13)
  • Golf faces crisis of identity, struggles to attract casual fans without Tiger.
• Hosts discuss:
  • The need for a new superstar—“They have to find their next Tiger Woods. And I don’t know if that’s possible.” (34:32)
  • Comparison to Usain Bolt’s retirement: “Tigers is not that. It’s because he has been injured so many times... Every time he shows up on the golf course, he proves nothing but greatness.” (33:09)
• Personal Note:
  • RG3 addresses audience: “If you’re going through something, talk to somebody about it, work through whatever it is before it gets to that point.” (32:14)
• Differentiation: Tiger disliked by rivals on course, respected off it; golf needs a new uniting figure.

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6. Outta Pocket Moments of the Week

Timestamps: 36:08 – 38:46

(A) Deontay Wilder’s Emotional KO

• Wilder vs. Chisora: Wilder says “I’m sorry. I love you. I love you.” right before delivering a brutal knockout.
  • “You cannot tell me as a boxer in the boxing ring that you love me. Then hit me with one of them sledgehammer right hands, okay? Hell nah.” (37:04)
• RG3 and Grete laugh about the absurdity and emotional duality of boxing.

(B) Joe Adele’s Defensive Heroics

• LA Angels’ Joe Adele robs 3 home runs in a single MLB game.
  • “Joe Adele, my guy, he looked like Spiderman out there... That’s got to be—They got to get a Joe Adele bobblehead day.” (38:14)
• “An angel in the outfield”—the hosts end on a jubilant note.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• RG3 on anonymous sources:
  “If you can’t speak on what you believe and how you feel about a certain player without hiding your name, then you shouldn’t be saying it.” (02:32)

• Grete on rivalries in sports:
  “Rivalries do elevate the sport. They always have. Fans—it's short for fanatic. Fans love a good rivalry.” (20:08)

• RG3 on Tiger Woods:
  “The truth is, no one knows what Tiger Woods needs, except for Tiger.” (30:49)

• Grete on the end of eras:
  “It's hard to compare because you’re like, yeah, the greats retire all the time. But it’s not the same thing. Just for those reasons.” (33:36)

• RG3 on continuity and experience:
  “Dynasties are built on continuity, not just talent anymore. And experience is what’s winning championships.” (28:49)

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Structure & Flow

Each segment moves smoothly into the next, blending sharp sports analysis with culture, humor, and personal reflections. The episode is passionate, unfiltered, and inclusive—making space for both irreverent and serious moments.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers candid, player-first perspectives on major sports stories—making it essential listening for anyone seeking nuanced, energetic, and insider-level analysis on the intersection of sports, media, and culture.

Transcript

[A]

Yo, yo, yo. Are you worried about why Jalen Hurts continues to get mistreated by the media? What about Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley starting the latest culture clash? What about Tiger woods getting arrested and golf suffering from it? And then you also got UCLA's dominant national championship win by their women's basketball team. And we also got the feel good moment of the week and the out of pocket moment of the week right here for you guys. So welcome to out of pocket with RG3, hosted by your boy and the 121 time all American, the one, the only Greg Tay Griffin. That's right. I'm the one that keeps the show off the rails and she's the one that keeps it on. So make sure you like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. There you go. Go ahead and move the route. Move the mouse over there. Click on that button. Leave a comment, Let us know what you think about the topics for today, who you want us to bring on the show next. And we promise you, we will make it happen. We can't get this thing done without you. And we love you guys. All of you in the huddle. So what we got for today, baby?

[B]

You ready to get to the opening? Jalen Hurts mistreated by the media. The sports world is on fire again after anonymous reports questioning Jalen Hurts, his coachability and his leadership ability from within the Eagles organization. They attacked his ability to and willingness to work with other coaches, his alleged preferences in style of offense that he wants to run, and his alleged fractured relationships on the team. Do you think Jalen Hurts is being treated fairly within the media in here?

[A]

No, he's not getting treated fairly. Jalen Hurts is being abused by the media right now. And when I say that it's. He is a winner. Jalen Hurts is 57 and 25 as a starting quarterback in the NFL. I don't think people understand how hard it is to do that. Okay? In 10 career playoff games, he has a 6 and 4 record, 21 total touchdowns, only three interceptions. And when they talk about this man being uncoachable, he. He is the son of a coach. He played for Nick Saban and then played for Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. Two coaches who have the ultimate difference in the way that they handle their teams and the way they go about coaching. And you're telling me that this kid, this young man, this great NFL quarterback is uncoachable? Well, let me tell you this, guys. Those anonymous sources, they must be campaigning for an ass whooping. And I can tell you Right now, they're about to get elected. There nothing irks me me more than someone saying things about somebody's character and talking about things that are going to tear them down to the masses and saying, you know what, I'm going to say this, but I'm just going to hide behind the cloak of anonymity. Anonymous source and not just that those people shouldn't be given a platform. If you can't speak on what you believe and how you feel about a certain player without hiding your name, then you shouldn't be saying it.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

NFL insiders, NBA insiders, WNBA insiders, whatever insiders there are out there should not be giving them a platform to speak it on. I understand the media game. I get it. It's about being interesting, finding out information that other people don't know. But if they're not willing to stand 10 toes down on it, they shouldn't be talking.

[B]

Exactly. Say it with your chest or don't say it at all.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

And Jalen Hurts has six career playoff wins, which equals that combined total of all other quarterbacks from the 2020 NFL Draft class, which includes the great Joe Burrow, the great Justin Herbert, the great Tua Tongovailoa, and the great Jordan Love.

[A]

You want to take it even a

[B]

step further, you go for it.

[A]

All right, so we talk about those guys, and I'm always a believer that you don't tear down the other guys, of course, to boost up the guy that you're defending.

[B]

You shouldn't have to. Right?

[A]

You shouldn't have to. Joe Burrow is a great talent. So is Herbert Tuatanga Bolo. We hope that he can get back on track with the Atlanta Falcon. Uh, Jordan Love is a very promising young quarterback for the Green Bay packers, but when you look at Jalen Hurts by himself right now, he's more efficient and better at protecting the football with his touchdown interception ratio than Josh Allen. Oh, that's not it. He also has a higher winning percentage than Matthew Stafford. Oh, but that's not it. He also has maintained a higher regular season winning percentage than Joe Burrow. Oh, but that's not it. He also has a better regular season and postseason winning percentage than Justin Herbert. So when you talk about these types of players and the way that they are evaluated by the masses, why is it different that Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford, all these quarterbacks that Jalen Hurts has performed better than and been to two Super Bowls and won a Super bowl, why is he being judged differently?

[B]

Makes no sense to me.

[A]

The hate has to be bigger than football, it has to be bigger than football.

[B]

And it definitely is, because Jalen, like you said, Jalen Hurst has been to Super Bowls. His winning record is amazing. His interception numbers are down low to the ground. And, like, you're still gonna find a way to hate on a man just because you want to. So why do you think Jalen Hurts? Just have to keep proving himself over and over again that he can actually win at the highest level.

[A]

Yeah, that's the thing, like, for every quarterback. And they'll tell you this in life, anyone that's watching this, no matter how much you accomplish in life, you're still going to have to accomplish more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Every single day you show up, you're going to have to. To do it better. So as a quarterback, I never won a Super bowl, right. But I was on a team with Lamar Jackson. We were so dominant. I believe this is in the 2019 season when he won his first MVP. MVP. And we were so dominant, man, we were at the house like, hey, yo, this might be the. We might bring a ring home, baby. Let's go. And then we got into the playoffs, and it didn't happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's. And it's not because any players were saying, hey, you know, we're gonna just walk over all these guys and they're just gonna roll over and let us win. It's because winning in the NFL is hard to do. So when you're Jalen Hurst and you do get to the super bowl and you do outperform Patrick Mahomes and you lose, but what do you do next? You go back to the drawing board. Well, guess what? For them, that next year, it didn't really work out for them, but they got back two years later and they finally won it. So now what do you do after you win it? You go back to the drawing board. And that's why, yes, in a sense, Jalen Hurts in every quarterback, every player in the NFL has to continually prove themselves every single year, time and time again. But the grace that is given to quarterbacks who have won a Super bowl, who have won a Super bowl mvp, far outweighs the grace that Jalen Hurts has been given from the media with the anonymous sources and the year after year after year of. Of these anonymous sources and these, what we call them, hit pieces coming out to tear him down. And that is the question. If winning is the standard, then why do we keep moving the goalposts when Jalen Hurts wins?

[B]

Facts.

[A]

Is it because you don't like the way he wins because he's not. He's maybe not as exciting as you want him to be. Every quarterback has preferences in the offenses that they want to run.

[B]

Of course, you're the leader of the team.

[A]

Peyton Manning had preferences. I. I had a receiver, Pierre Garcon. He played. We play together in Washington. He said, Peyton wanted me to run three routes. Slant, under, go ball. That's it. He didn't want him to run anything else. They gave me the signal. We do this. Boom, this is back shoulder. Boom, this is over the top. Boom, this is slant. And that's it. So did. Did Pierre go to him and say, man, I want to run some comebacks. Man, I want to run some. I want to run some. Some post digs. I want to once run some wheel routes. Like, no, he understood, hey, this man is a great player. He's won a Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm going to follow his lead. Why is Jalen Hurts not being given that same level of respect? That is the problem for me. We'll throw this tweet up on the screen for you guys. This is from former linebacker, now retired Levante David. He went on the gridiron and he said, and I quote, jalen Hurts was never a guy we worried about in their game planning and how they attacked. You know, how they were trying to attack the offense to slow him down. And one of his old teammates, C.J. gardner Johnson, came up on and tweeted and said, why do this? Like, come on, man. People will continue to bash this man for. For what reason? There's plenty of the quarterback news that we can talk about, and I think CJ Has a point here that a lot of times in the media, we bait former players or current players to dish on the quarterbacks that we shouldn't be having them dish on. Yes, Philly is a huge market. They're a huge market. You say something about Philadelphia Eagles is going everywhere. Everybody knows that. But that doesn't mean you have to pick on the quarterback who just won you a Super bowl two seasons ago.

[B]

Yeah, come on.

[A]

It doesn't make sense to me. And I always wonder, why is it that quarterbacks like Jalen Hurts, like Lamar Jackson, like Dak Prescott. Why are these guys the ones that get the brunt of the scrutiny, while others, like Joe Burrow, who we love, like Justin Herbert, who we love, like Matthew Stafford, get a pass?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, like you're saying. We're not saying they should also get the scrutiny. We're saying, no, they shouldn't get the scrutiny. They should get the pass that, that those guys are getting. Like that makes no sense. And honestly, talking about that, I want to talk about Shudder Sanders.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because shooters also came continues to just face criticism about his leadership style, about his personality despite producing a high level and elevating the visibility of Colorado football to outer space. And as the sign of Deion Sanders, clearly the expectations and scrutiny has just followed him at every level since his childhood. But with critics are often questioning or mistaking his confidence as arrogance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the conversation surrounding Sudur reflects to me a broader trend in how a quarterback is elevated beyond a stat sheet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where perception sometimes becomes as influential as performance. His ability to handle pressure while playing under constant spotlight has totally made him one of the most talked about young quarterbacks in football right now. So is Shador Sanders being criticized for performance or for confidence? That just makes people so uncomfortable.

[A]

I think Shedeur is being criticized for his confidence and that's how he came into the NFL. And then based upon his performance last year, people are trying to use the fact that he didn't get any. Any first team reps in training camp. That he. He wasn't really getting second team reps either. That he didn't get first team reps with the offense until over halfway through the season where he then is thrown in as the starter with one week of reps of guys he hasn't thrown to the entire year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think because he was set up to fail, we. We had this conversation with you. You can go check out that episode on our YouTube channel where we talked about how the Cleveland Browns were setting up Shadir Sanders to. To fail before he ever even got on the field. And now people are saying, well, he threw more interceptions and touchdowns. Well, the Browns didn't do this. The Browns didn't do that. Well, you know what the Browns did do? When Shadir Sanders was in the game? They won more games than they did when he wasn't.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

You know what, you know what Shadow Sanders does bring to the. To the Browns organization? He brings them a level of stability and confidence that the players believe in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I can tell you haven't been in NFL locker rooms. That is one of the most important things the quarterback can bring. When you step on the field, do the guys around you believe they can win?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With Shadir Sanders, they believe they can win. I don't think they believe that. When they had Deshaun Watson on the field, I don't really think they believed it. Honestly. When Joe Flacco was out there on the field, but when Shadur stepped in there, yes, the fact that he is Deion Sanders son does bring a level of heightened scrutiny, but it also brings to that locker room a level of heightened confidence. Yeah, they know what this kid has been through. They know that he was having to go across the street, across town to work out at high schools and bring receivers out there because Kevin Stefanski and the staff wouldn't give him any play in practice. They understand that he was doing those things. So I think now is the time for the Cleveland Browns to say Shadur Sanders is our starting quarterback. DeSean Watson, we're paying you a boatload of money, buddy. But it's Shadur's job to lose, and you're going to have to go and back him up and try to win the job from him. That is the fundamental disconnect. And right now the media in Cleveland is trying to bury Shadir Sanders before he can even pick the football up in the off season program.

[B]

Yeah, it's also. Can you imagine how fast time is flying? Like the draft was just almost a year ago.

[A]

No, it's crazy.

[B]

We just talked about the draft and how dirty they did chadur and all that, and it's literally like two weeks away from being a year.

[A]

Yeah, we're about to talk about the draft some more. We don't want any NFL teams to bury any other young quarterbacks.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

You want to talk about Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson? If you're the Raiders draft, who you believe in organizationally, top to bottom, head coach, owner, gm, offensive coordinator, quarterback coach. If y' all don't all have the same guy that you like, then you might as well just rock with Kirk Cousins. That's who you. That's who you brought in as your bridge quarterback. You might as well rock with him because clearly all y' all believe in him. Don't you dare draft Fernando Mendoza or Ty Simpson if you don't believe in them. We don't want the same things to happen to quarterbacks in the past to those guys, because those guys deserve a fair shot. That's all I got to say about that.

[B]

All right, moving on to viral spiral number one. Gino Oriema versus Dawn Staley. Handshake gate. All right. Women's college basketball is dominating the headlines after Gino Orient publicly expressed frustration about a perceived missed pre game handshake moment with Don Staley. Ignition social media debate. Instead of focusing on the game itself, the conversation quickly turned into another cultural flashpoint. Kinda Reminiscent of The Angel Reese vs Caitlin Clark discourse where competition, respect, and perception just collided. Competitors understand that emotions run high after losses, but the post game narrative shift away from performance to perceived slights. It risks overshadowing the athletes who deliver the elite basketball on the court and everything else involved. So was Gino justified in expressing his frustration, or do you think Handshake Kate kind of unfairly took away the spotlight from South Carolina's performance?

[A]

No. Gino is dead ass wrong. Like, let's just call a spade a spade. Gino Ariema and Don Staley have become the new angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark. When it comes to culture wars. Yeah, people are picking sides based on the color of their skin. They're picking sides based off their allegiances to the. To the certain schools and. And they're digging in the trenches to say my side is right, your song, your side is wrong without even coming to reason. And here's the reason that Gino is wrong and why he had to issue an apology.

[B]

He didn't issue an apology. Let's put that out there. He apologized.

[A]

We'll put the apology up on the screen. And you can notice from the apology there is no mention of Don Saley in the apology, which is a clear sign that this man really isn't sorry. Right. We don't. Allegedly. Allegedly. He's really not sorry. But anyone with eyes that has been in a competitive environment where they lost knows that Gino walking up to dawn after the game and complaining about the pre game handshake is about one thing and one thing only. He's salty that they lost.

[B]

It's about losing the game, period.

[A]

It was about losing the game. Any real competitor knows that feeling. He's like, man, they beat us. They beat us pretty bad. What am I going to talk about? Hey, man, why you ain't shaking my hand before the game? Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what he was upset about. He was upset because they lost. Like, why are we worried about the pregame handshake when you just got that thing tapped during the game? Don't make this about you. That's my biggest issue here with Geno. He made it about him and a perceived slight. And it takes away from the beautiful game of basketball that he has dedicated his life.

[B]

One of the greatest basketball coaches out

[A]

there, arguably the greatest, winningest coach of all time in college basketball. And what that moment did was it changed the narrative from being about how well South Carolina played to handshake gate, ripped jersey gate, and now everybody's got to issue out different types of apologies. And I really believe, and I think you would agree with me on this, that's just unfair to the athletes on the court. It totally takes it away from what it should be. We should be talking about the fact that Don Staley got back to another national championship game.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We should be talking about the fact that Gino. Hey, he's an 11 time national champion. Don Staley's won multiple national champions in the last decade. They're two of the most influential coaches in women's basketball history. And instead we got video like this one of Dawn Staley saying she gonna be Gino's ass. Like, what if what in the WWE is going on in women's basketball? And I don't know how you feel about it, but the, the whole Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark aspect of this, the reason that was so great for women's college basketball was because it brought added attention.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it. And people, whether they want to admit it or not, they want to pick sides. Right. You talk about the. The politics of it all. And Democrats and Republicans, like, people want to pick sides and they want to believe in something. So when this happens and it is a black woman, a woman, and it's a. And it's a white male, it causes a culture war that actually is detrimental to the sport.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

As opposed to being elevating the sport. What do you think about that?

[B]

No, I totally agree. Like, I get it. In the moment, emotions run high. You lost. Like, everything's probably bothering you. You want to beat someone's ass. It's not a good situation to be in. But also, like, as a coach that has won 11 national championships, I understand you're probably not a good loser, but at this point, you should know how to lose better.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Like, like, you know, like, you should know how to at least control your emotions better, if not for yourself, for your team. You know what I mean? Like, now your assistant coaches and your team and everybody has to hold you back and tell you to, like, calm down and stop and whatever. And now you have to come out and issue an apology. And it's become this whole entire thing instead of it being like a, hey, South Carolina, great job. We're so sad that we lost. But hey, y' all made it to the national championship. So I think all is fair when it comes to competition and emotions running high. But you also have to then deal with the consequences and, you know, and then have to issue an apology and, you know, does that and.

[A]

And let's Be, let's be real honest here. Everyone that's that's listening to this. Let us know what you think about this conversation in the comments. And, and I guess what side you're on when it comes to Gino Ariema versus Don Staley and who's right, who's wrong in that whole situation. But rivalries, they do elevate the sport. They always have fans. It's short for fanatic. Fans love a good rivalry. And this rivalry between South Carolina and UConn and Gino Auriemma and Don Staley over the past decade is probably one of the more interesting ones outside of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. So I asked you this question as a competitor, as 121 time all American competitive frustration is real facts. Right. But does public criticism elevate or distract from the game?

[B]

I kind of want to say it could go both ways.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It could, it can, it can help because the people that are siding with you are going to be like hell yeah, you tell him, you know, I mean, whatever. But it's tough because like you don't want to see it. And it does take away from the game a little bit for the simple fact that now no one's talking about even the freaking game. Everybody's talking about the two coaches when you should have been talking about the players that had a great game and all that. So I think it can go both ways. Yeah, that's my answer. It can, it can be both at the same time.

[A]

I think it, I can think. I think it can be both. I think when you talk about meteor media exposure, the public criticism increases the media exposure. But then you have to ask yourself is it worth it? Is that, is more media attention worth the scrutiny and the pressure that you're now putting on your team?

[B]

I think that game got more eyes on it and more coverage from the media simply for the fact that what happened between the two coaches 100 I because 100 let's be real. You know, it's, it's a women's national that was semi final, not the national championship game but the women's semi final. And the headlines were everywhere. And you don't normally see that for a woman's basketball game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it did give people the chance to even she see that there was a basketball game, that this tournament is going on and all of that. So it did help in that sense, but it was a negative kind of headline.

[A]

And why does that sound like it sounds like age of reason? CAITLIN CLARK because they elevated the sport of women's basketball through their rivalry. Yes, it got clicks. Yes, it drew people in. Because, let's be real. Why do people watch reality TV drama? For the drama. Okay, all of you at home, you have that guilty pleasure that you like to watch. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's Love is Blind, Temptation Island, Big Brother, whatever. I don't know what it is, but you got. You have something. It could be Age of Attraction. Who knows? You got something that you like to watch that, that you're like, man, this is a guilty person. I probably shouldn't be watching this. But you watch it for the drama. Real Housewives of Whatever. Right? And my point is, that is what basketball and women's basketball is, is starting to become. It's becoming bigger because of the rivalries. And I just think there's got to be a way to have the rivalry. But as a coach and one and the winningest coach of all time in Gino Auriemma, to have that rivalry and not have to come out in the post game press conference and say, hey, me and Don say they don't have anything in common. Well, you do have something in common. Y' all are both national championship coaching coaches. But now it creates this animosity that only feeds the beast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that takes us to what?

[B]

That takes us to inside our first spiral. Spiral. We're gonna have our feel good story of the week. So UCLA won the women's basketball national title. And we're going to talk about it in this sense because they played who? South Carolina. So UCLA just completed one of the most dominant two year runs in modern women's college basketball history, finishing 71 and 4 over the past two seasons and finally capturing their first NCAA championship that had eluded this historic senior class. They absolutely dominated South Carolina 71, 51 and being up by more than 30 points when the starters were still in the game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you think this year's UCLA team belongs among the greatest women's college basketball teams of modern era?

[A]

I mean, is water wet?

[B]

I mean, yes, yes, water is wet.

[A]

Water is wet. Some people might say it's debatable, but yes, they do. They. They dismantled this South Carolina team then. South Carolina is tough. They're physical. I mean, the defense that this team at UCLA played, holding Texas's best player, Madison Booker, to 3 of 23 shooting and six points, and then they held Joyce Andrews to, What was it, 8 points on 3 at 10 shooting from South Carolina, like that, to me is. Is unbelievable because I'm a big believer that defense Wins championships. But you can take it even a step further. For this UCLA team, this game was over at halftime, and UCLA seniors scored a hundred percent of their points in the championship game. They're six seniors. You know, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna name them. We're gonna try to name them. Okay, we're gonna name them. You got Gabriella Haquez, 21 points, 10 rebounds, double double. Yes. She is the. The sister of Miami Heat forward Jamie Hawkez Jr. Who is also a beast off the bench for them. They're six. Man. Man.

[B]

You got Lauren Betts, 14 points, 11 rebounds, double double. She won the most outstanding player.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, she was.

[B]

That they didn't have a trophy for.

[A]

You can't miss her on the court. She was unbelievably crazy. I heard that. I heard that. They don't. Okay, that was. Now, that was a moment. Okay. I've heard that they've. That they have never had a trophy for the women's most outstanding player. Don't mention it, because now you're making everybody feel awkward.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay, that was bad.

[A]

Then you also got Baltimore's very own Kiki Rice, who is one of them. One of their. One of their best players. Had 10.6 rebounds and five assists. I'm gonna go ahead and let you take the rest of these.

[B]

I can't. I'm gonna mess them up so bad. We have Gianna. My girl Gianna.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Nipkins.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

15 points. Let's say that's her last name. We have Charlize Legger Walker, 10 points. And I'm just gonna say that Angela is foreign and her last name is Dugalic, which is not foreign. I'm so sorry, but if you were foreign, Angela, this would be your last name. So Angela Dugalic. She was the key scoring contributor during the tournament run.

[A]

Yeah. And you talk about the way that this team was dominant. I think it's. It's going to show why college football has shifted in the direction that it has not. And I say college football, even though we're talking about women's college basketball. It's the same thing. Experience wins championships. You look at Indiana and how old their team was. Fernando Mendoza, coming over from Cal, you talk about this team and how they were built through continuity. Yeah, right. 71 and 4 over the last two seasons.

[B]

That's a crazy stat.

[A]

Crazy stat. National champs, winningest class in program history. Their seniors were elite defense efficiency team, multiple all Americans. And that brings you to. We mentioned her already. Already, but Gabriella Haquez, she is the type of player that every single coach wants on their team, whether it's basketball, football, baseball, softball, and yes, she actually plays softball for UCLA as well. She's two sport athlete, but she's a

[B]

high, you go girl.

[A]

She's a high IQ player. She's one that's going to do all the dirty work. She's versatile, so she can hit the three, she can get in the, in the, in the paint box out get rebounds, and she's never afraid to make the extra pass or allow somebody else to shine. That's the type of player that as she moves forward into the wnba, teams are going to be clamoring for.

[B]

She wrote down their entire class must be going to the NBA draft. Double NBA draft.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, pretty much all seniors pretty much should. Especially the way they dominated South Carolina. It's been a long time since we've seen a domination the way they did it while also scoring a bunch of points.

[B]

This didn't look like a national championship game at all.

[A]

No, it didn't. And I, I say this and I mean it. From college basketball, women's college basketball and NCAA football. Dynasties are built on continuity, not just talent anymore. And experience is what's winning championships.

[B]

Viral spiral number two. Tiger woods got arrested and had to miss the Masters. Tiger woods is back in the headlines after a car crash incident that led to injuries that will keep him out of the Masters, once again reminding the sports world just how fragile even the greatest careers can be. Tiger's dominance has changed golf forever. TV ratings, prize money, global interest, all exploded during Tiger's era. But injuries and of course, challenges have repeatedly interrupted his ability to compete at the highest level. Now, each time Tiger has faced adversity, the entire golf world has felt the ripple effects of it. And this latest setback raises questions about whether the sport has fully transitioned beyond the era defined by Tiger's greatness. Do you think Tiger woods missing the Masters signals the true end of golf's most influential era?

[A]

Absolutely. It's sad.

[B]

Honestly, it's very sad.

[A]

I was, I was a kid that grew up. You were a kid that grew up wanting to play golf because Tiger Woods. I actually played golf.

[B]

I played on my fifth grade golf

[A]

team, played on my seventh grade. Oh, I'm sorry, team. Because of Tiger Woods. When you talk about this topic, and I know you're, you know, joking around and like, we like to have fun, but this one is more, it's more serious and it's like at the end of the day, with Tiger, you just hope that he's okay mentally.

[B]

I think he checked into rehab and they said that his private plane landed in, I want to say, Zurich, somewhere in Europe. So hopefully he's there getting the treatment, getting the help that he needs to. To what? Accomplish whatever needs to be accomplished in his life at this point.

[A]

Yeah. Because, like, the. The truth is, no one knows what Tiger woods needs. Except for Tiger.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And we know a lot of people go to rehab and they check into rehab because they, you know, it's just a good thing to do, public perception, PR wise. But when you look at Tiger woods and what he has meant to golf, it is now, at this point, golf has to confront itself knowing that the Tiger woods led era of golf is over.

[B]

It's very sad.

[A]

It is sad. And like, there's no amount of success, achievement, any of that. Titles, championships, none of that protects you from life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I want everyone at home to know that, yeah, there's some. Tiger's done some things that, that have put people in danger. And we're not excusing any of that behavior. We're just saying we, at this point in our lives, golf enthusiasts, have to look at Tiger woods as not just the golfer. You have to pray for him as Tiger woods, the man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everybody experiences grief, depression, anxiety, addiction, whatever it may be. And we're not saying that he's addicted to anything. Like, we don't know, and we're not going to speculate, but we do know that the things that have occurred in his life, from DUIs to car crashes to things that have happened in his personal life, illuminate that there's a deeper issue.

[B]

You.

[A]

And if you're talking about this, anyone at home, if you're going through something, talk to somebody about it, work through whatever it is before it gets to that point. Because you would think a guy like Tiger woods, with all the accomplishment, accomplishments that he's had, all the greatness that he's achieved, you'd be like, man, what. What can affect this guy? And clearly there is something that is affecting him.

[B]

This is not your Usain Bolt story. Right. Like, the track and field world is clearly, you know, sad and devastated when Usain Bolt retired. But everybody's. Everybody's era comes to an end at some point. Tigers is not that. It's because he has been injured so many times. He did break his back in his latest car crash before this one. He has gotten so many injuries from off course activities.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He has had trouble with, gotten in trouble with so many things off the call off the golf course. But every time he shows up on the golf course, he's proves nothing but greatness. So it's the off course things that have happened that are now making you question, is this the end of Tiger Woods's era of golf? So it's hard to compare because you're like, yeah, the greats retire all the time. But it's kind. It's not the same thing. Just for those reasons.

[A]

Yeah. And, and, and even to piggyback even further off of that, like, Tiger has. Has always taken golf to a new level, even when he hasn't been winning.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Him merely being in the tournament absolutely raises ratings.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because people want to see, does Tiger still have it?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And now golf has to tell itself. How do we get the casual fan to tune in? Because the, the diehard golf fan is going to tune in. They're going to watch Bryson DeChambeau and, and they're gonna, they're gonna be locked in to the guys that they know because they, they're following it like the back of their hand. This is who's playing the best. This is who I want to watch. And they're gonna be there, but the casual fan isn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And golf has to find a way to draw them back in. They have to find their next Tiger Woods.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't know if that's possible.

[B]

That's so true because, like, I'm gonna come back to track. Like in track and field, Usain Bolt retired and everybody's like, okay, who's gonna be the new use involved and who's the closest thing to it right now? No, all else, he took over. The bravado, the excitement, the show of Usain Bolt. He comes out running from the tunnels, jumping, doing crazy stuff. Kind of like what you said both used to do, you know, I mean, everybody else would be super focused before the race. You say used to do crazy stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, all else has taken that over because track and field needed somebody new. They needed somebody to take over that role. So people will stay tuned, keep watching. So, yeah, it's a great question. Who is going to be dead for. For golf?

[A]

Make no mistake about it. No. L is not Usain Bolt. And I will. I will also say this.

[B]

Congrats, Noah, for getting married, though.

[A]

The. The athletes in track and field love this Usain Bolt. They hate. No Lyles. The athletes in golf hated Tiger woods the golfer, but they didn't hate Tiger woods the man. The man. So that is. There's a massive difference there. And I think the golf world yearns for Tiger to be there because they know his impact. They got to find the next person because Tiger is only getting older. He's only becoming more and more injured. And now if he's in rehab again, it's like, how much can they continue to pull on the Tiger woods escape hatch? Yeah, they gotta go find another one.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

But let's pick up the spirits a little bit here, all right, as we close out this show. Here we go. We got two minutes. Let's go.

[B]

Our show is called out of pocket. We have out of pocket moments of the week for you, okay? The promotion for a Potential Deontay Wilder vs Derek Chisora clash has captured attention because both fighters are known for knockout power and emotional intensity. Wilder, one of the most devastating punches in heavyweight history, has built his reputation on highlight reel finishes, while Chisora has built his brand on toughness and willingness to fight just about anyone.

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1.

[B]

In the actual fight, Deontay Wilder had an emotional moment before delivering a most brutal punch to Chisora. Deontay Wilder reportedly said, I'm sorry. I love you. I love you. Now, this moment captured the strange duality of combat sports. Respect and violence just existing simultaneously.

[A]

And guess what? This. This is a picture of the punch that he threw at him right before. Right after he said, I'm sorry. I love you. I love you. Which I've never heard a man say in. In my life in a boxing ring. And then he flattened the man like a lawn chair and told him he loves. Listen, man. Oh, he acting different, all right? You cannot tell me as a boxer in the boxing ring that you love me. Then hit me with one of them sledgehammer right hands, okay? Hell nah. Whoa. Are you gonna hit me? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my good.

[A]

Like, what are we doing here?

[B]

That's just so funny.

[A]

Shout out to Deontay Wilder for the win. But nah, man. Hell no. You can't be doing that in the ring. You. You took that man. All that man's dignity.

[B]

Oh, my God. All right. Joe Adele's defensive master class. Los Angeles Angels outfielder Joe Adele delivered one of the most electric defensive performances of the MLB season by Rock. Robbed. Three home runs in one game versus the Mariners. Now, robbing one home run is already elite, but, I mean, two are very rare, very, very rarely done.

[A]

Three.

[B]

Yeah. Freaking absurd.

[A]

Nah, listen, Joe Adele, my guy, he looked like Spider man out there. He was climbing the wall. Not one, not two, but three. Robbed home runs off the Seattle Mariners. I mean, that's like that that's got to be. They got to get a Joe Adele bobblehead day or something going on because he was like an angel in the outfield. And guess what, people? That's how we're ending our show today. We appreciate y' all tuning into us. We we love the fact that you guys tune in and you comment, you let us know what you think. So make sure you leave a comment about all the topics we talked about today, from Jalen Hurst, the Tiger woods juniorm, and Don Staley, to the UCLA Bruins national championship women's basketball team, everything under the sun. Let us know what you want us to talk about next. And we said 30 minutes or less. We went like one or two minutes over. So we appreciate you guys hanging out with us, and we'll see you guys next week. Peace.