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Yo, yo, yo. Welcome to out of pocket with RG3, hosted by your boy and the lovely, amazing 97 time all American, Greta Griffin. Make sure you like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Again, like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. What are you waiting for? Come on, take the mouse. Move it. There you go. Click subscribe. Now after you do that, make sure you leave a comment telling us who you want us to bring on the show next and what you want us to talk about. And we will make sure that happens. Right now, we got an emergency podcast. Let's get right to it.
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Our emergency podcast is about Shador Sanders and the 2025 NFL Draft where Shador has not been drafted for after the first three rounds and is still waiting for his NFL opportunity. Now, Shadow was supposed to be drafted top three, if not top three, top five now if not top five, top 20 and if not top 20, top 32 where the first round ends. Five quarterbacks have been drafted before Shadur Sanders. And I just want to know, baby, what is your take on all of this?
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Let's get to it, people. Here we go. I'm explaining to you the real reason why Shadir Sanders is falling in this act. It's very simple. Shadir Sanders should not have dropped out of the first three rounds of the NFL draft. He dropped out of the first three rounds NFL draft because it's 100 personal NFL GM scouts and the NFL at large are trying to teach Deion Sanders and Shadur Sanders a lesson. A lesson that they didn't teach the Mannings when Eli said he wasn't going to go play in Santiago. A lesson that they did not teach Andrew Luck and his family when he was the perennial number one draft pick from the time he was a freshman in college. A lesson that they did not teach Baker Mayfield when he came out of Oklahoma and a message that they did not teach Joe Burrow when he came out of lsu. So what do I mean by all of that? What I mean is that all of these guys had the confidence, many of them had the bravado that is similar to what Shadir Sanders has. But none of them were punished in the way that he's been punished. I'm going to go ahead and hit you guys with some facts of the quarterbacks over the last few years who have been drafted in the first round despite people saying that their confidence and or bravado borderline on arrogance. Joe Burrow smoking cigars in the locker room at lsu, drafted first overall, Baker Mayfield planting flags in the Middle of the field. Drafted first overall, Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers, extremely confident. Drafted first overall, Kyler Murray. Drafted first overall. But you say, oh, but all those guys, some of those guys have elite traits. Some of them didn't. But these are some other guys that got dinged for their confidence being so high that there might have been some, you know, murmurs in NFL circles that they needed to be brought down a few notches. Aaron Rodgers fell all the way to 24 in the draft because of some of his bravado and his confidence. He's a Hall of Famer. Josh Rosen, not a Hall of Famer, fell to number 10 in the draft in the Arizona Cardinals, Josh Rosen got drafted in the first round. Jameis Winston actually did go first overall. A guy that they questioned his confidence. Jay Cutler went 11th overall to the Denver Broncos. A guy that they said, is he, is he confident or is he, is he arrogant? Still drafted in the first and last, but certainly not least, Mac Jones. Mac Jones from the Alabama Crimson tide, drafted number 15 by the Patriots. Now, not every single guy that I just mentioned there had the elite traits that you talk about, whether it's the strong arm, the ability to run like the wind or the height. All of those guys that I mentioned are littered throughout those categories. But the one thing that they all had was confidence and ability. Shadur Sanders. Confidence and ability is what the NFL craves. You have to be able to galvanize a locker room. And that's exactly what Shadir Sanders can do. So why is he being punished by falling out of the first two rounds of the draft? Well, I'm not mad that Shadir Sanders fell out of the first three rounds of the draft. But I am confused because his tape says that he's a first round pick. His tape says that he's a top three pick in the NFL draft. So why are we sitting here now after the first three rounds and he hasn't been picked? It's about jealousy. It's personal. Deion Sanders, all time great cornerback in NFL history. He's done an amazing job raising his sons, done an amazing job preparing them for the next level. Shadow Sanders is prepared for this moment. I've got no question about it, that whether he gets drafted in rounds four through seven or he goes undrafted, he will have a successful NFL career. But Shadir Sanders should have been drafted by the New Orleans Saints. Why? Because they, they drafted Tyler Shuck out of Louisville. Now, I'm not trying to do on Tyler Shuck. I just want everybody to know that or any Other quarterbacks, the five quarterbacks that are drafted in the first three rounds before Shitter Sanders. The team love those guys. I'm happy they got drafted. But even Saints players like Cam Jordan are questioning why the Saints drafted Tyler Schuck over Shadur Sanders. And I know Tyler Shuck's got a lively army. I remember him at Oregon, I remember him at Tech and I remember him at Louisville. But Tyler Schuck was teammates. What Saints tight end Juwan Johnson six years ago at Oregon. Tyler Schuck will be 26 years old in September. That means if you've got Derek Carr, who we know has a shoulder injury, in case you didn't know, he has a shoulder injury and he might not be able to play this season. But if Derek Carr, if I know the Derek Carr that I've known over the years, he's going to do everything in his power to play. So now you draft Tyler Shuck knowing that he's going to be sitting one to two, maybe even three years. By that time he'll be 29 years old. Shadir Sanders is 23. Shadir Sanders is the right pick for the Saints for for a plethora of reasons. One, his tape shows that he was a first round pick, so he would be a steal. Two, he's 23 years old. If he sits for one to two to three years, he's maximum going to be 25, 26 years old and you give him a chance to low grow, grow and develop. And three, the head coach of the New Orleans Saints, Kellen Moore played a style of football that required timing and rhythm, anticipation. So if there was any quarterback that he knew he could work with that was similar to him and how he processed the game because he doesn't have this howitzer of an arm, it would be Shadur Sanders. So I don't understand that pick at all. It's a bad pick. Shoulder. Sanders, 23, plays a rhythm and timing. And the Saints players wanted him, the city wanted him. Because this Saints team, they need that type of energy in the locker room shitter. Sanders brings that energy with him wherever he goes. He brings a confidence that exudes to everybody else around him. I don't understand the pick, the players don't understand the pick, the city doesn't understand the pick. But somehow, some way, the scout said they didn't want him. The next piece of this is that some people are saying that Shadur Sanders has fallen the draft because he views himself as a starter, but maybe the league views him as a backup. Let me Tell you guys right now, Dylan Gabriel goes to the Cleveland Browns. Tyler Schuck goes to the Saints. Jalen Milroe goes to the Seattle Seahawks. Every single one of these guys believes that they're a starter. There's this unique mindset that quarterbacks have that we all believe we are the guy, because only one of us plays at wideout. You can have three, four, five guys, plays at db. You can have six, seven, eight guys play between the corners, the nickels, the dime, the safety, the free, free safety, strong safety. But at quarterback, there's only one. So if you're a quarterback and you walk in a room, you walk on the field and you say to yourself, yep, I'm a backup, you're already out the league. You're already behind the eight ball. So why are we punishing Shadur Sanders for the things that we absolutely crave doing, desire and want from our quarterbacks? Take these things off, man. I've heard some people say that there's a difference between arrogance and confidence, and I don't disagree. There is a difference between arrogance and confidence. When you're arrogant, you've done nothing to warrant how confident you are at what you can do. The. It's the whole, you fake it till you make it. But that's not Shadir Sanders story. Shadir Sanders is confident because of what he has been able to accomplish as a leader of men at two separate universities, at two separate levels between a HBCU and Jackson State and Colorado. When he says, I'm not worried about the haters. I've been dealing with this my entire life. What's wrong with that? When he says to an NFL team, if you want to change your program, you want to change your franchise, come get me. If you don't want to, don't. Don't draft me. What's wrong with that? That's not arrogant. That's confidence. The same level of confidence that Baker Mayfield had when he told the Cleveland Browns, you better draft me. Same confidence that Peyton Manning had when he told the Annapolis Colts, if you don't draft me, you will regret it forever. Why is it that we're punishing Shadur Sanders for the things that we celebrate from other quarterbacks. That doesn't make sense to me. It really doesn't make sense to me. The next thing a lot of people are saying is that, you know what? Maybe it's the NFL owners and the GMs and the scouts and the coaches, they're trying to prove a point that, hey, we don't need you the shield is always bigger than the player. Again, I come back to we've had quarterbacks drafted number one overall littered quarterbacks drafted littered all throughout the first round of the draft that have had similar confidence and similar bravado. And yes, they may have fallen, but they have not fallen out of the first round when they should have been a top three pick. They haven't fallen out of the second round when they should have been a Top 20 pick. At least they haven't fallen out of the third round. Shadira Sanders's tape is what says he's a first round pick. Not his daddy, not any favoritism from the media. If you go watch his tape, his tape is better than the quarterbacks who were drafted before him, not named Cam Ward. And you could go so far as to say that, hey, Jackson Dart, Shador Sanders, flip a coin. I got no problem with that. I've called games for Jackson Dart. I know how talented that young man is. But you can't tell me that his tape wasn't better than Tyler. Shucks, you can't tell me that. So now I hear a lot of people are saying, oh, well, Shadur doesn't love football. I remember when I was coming out and the knocks on players when they, when they were going through this draft process was injuries and character. Does he have injury issues? Does he have character issues? Can he stay on the field and can we trust him off the field? Senator Sanders has none of that. No injury concerns. The man took a beating in college, got sacked over a hundred times, over 100 times at two different universities. Zero injury concern. Character. What character? Has Shadir Sanders broken some laws? What character issues does he have that he's confident and that he knows his worth? That's not an issue. Oh, well, he doesn't love football. That's the thing. Now they're like, oh, they don't love football because now they're getting paid, they're getting nil money. So they don't love football. So now we're going to punish these young men because now they're getting the pieces of pie that they deserved for generations. What are we talking about here, people? Shoulder Sanders makes, I don't know, say he made $7 million last year. I don't know how much money he made because I'm not pocket watching his, his, his bank account. But just because he made money doesn't mean that he doesn't love football. Don't you want the guys that made a lot of money last year in nil because that Means they were good football players, great football players. The, the idea that they don't love the game of football because they can make money in college now is blasphemy. You got to catch up and get with the times. You can't strike against guys just because you think, hey, he don't love ball because he made $4 million last year. There's a reason he made the money. Chadur. Sanders went to two universities. When you say he doesn't love football, the thing that pops in mind is like, okay, was he like a, a five star prospect who, who went to, to usc, had everything delivered to him on a silver plate? No, he wasn't. This man went to Jackson State. He went to an hbcu. He took the long, hard road to get to where he went. I believe they won 27 games. 20. Turned that program all the way around and then they went to Colorado. Nobody wanted to go to Colorado. They were 111 the previous season. And yes, they took the lumps in that first year going 4 and 8, but then they turned it around and went 9 and 4 in year two. Two years to turn around a program in Colorado that nobody wanted to go to. The people in Colorado didn't want to go to Colorado. But somehow, some way, Shadir Sanders is the quarterback that he is. Being able to galvanize his locker room and get those guys to believe that no matter what, as long as I got the ball, we got a chance. Isn't that what we're looking for in the NFL from our quarterbacks? I vividly remember when Colorado was down against my alma mater, Baylor University, and Shadir Sanders found a way to, to get them back in the game and then go win the game. I was heartbroken. I hated to see it because it's my mom. But in that moment, I realized this man got ice in his veins and he knows his limitations. So he's an elite processor. He plays ahead of the defense. He plays with rhythm and timing and anticipation. All the things that you want from NFL quarterback. So why are we talking about, oh, this guy don't love football because his daddy got money because he made money in college. That's hate and jealousy, man. That's making it personal. Travis Hunter got drafted second overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars. Nobody said anything about him going to Jackson State and then going to Colorado, just like Shedeur did. Who was his quarterback? Shadur Sanders was his quarterback. So we, we didn't punish him because his talent showed up. Shadur Sanders last year threw for 37 touchdowns to 10 interceptions. Over the course of his career he had a 5 to 1 touchdown to interception ratio. He threw for 4, 000 yards last season at Colorado with limited offensive line help. This man got beat up in the pocket like he was one of Mike Tyson's old opponents. Just getting hit with right hooks and left hooks all over the place. But they can never knock him out because he's tough. We are talking about a young man who delivered on the field in adverse situations and came out on top of faced the scrutiny at the college level that I don't think any player before him has ever faced and came out on top. Isn't that what we're looking for from a starting quarterback in the NFL? I do think I want to simmer down and just talk to you guys about what the, what the NFL draft really is about. The NFL draft is not about how great you are as a player. Evaluators, GMs, head coaches, scouts, they are trying to figure out how low can we draft this guy and get away with it. So when you talk about the pre draft process, I hear a lot of people say you got to sell yourself to the team. Hey man, listen, you don't got to sell yourself to nobody. Your tape speaks for itself. When you go into those meetings, you have the confidence, you be respectful, you, you do all these things and that's what Shadir Sanders did. He was respectful, but he's confident. Why does his confident disturb your insecurities?
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It shouldn't.
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But you're not selling yourself to anybody. You're just trying to show them. Hey you, you should draft me up here because if you let me slip down, you're not going to get a chance to get me. That's why on TV you hear people talking about elite traits. Is he super fast at quarterback? Does he have a rocket ship of an arm? Does he have the size? What is his NFL ceiling? They're trying to figure out all those things because it's a reason to draft you lower. So no, Shadow Sanders does not have the strongest arm in this draft class. No Shedeurs Sanders is not a 5, a 6 5, 245 pound quarterback. No Shedeur Sanders is not a 4, 3 athlete but he is good enough as an athlete. He is good enough of an arm, of an NFL arm to make every single throw. There's not a throw he can't make on the field. And his tape and his leadership shows up. It showed up at Jackson State, showed up at Colorado. That's why he was rated as a number two quarterback for him to fall out of the first three rounds is absolutely ridiculous and only fueled by personal hatred towards him or jealousy. I don't understand it, man. I've heard some people say he can't be coached by different people. The man had six different offensive coordinators in college across two universities in four years. You want to talk about new new like ATL and change. The man has adapted to change better than any quarterback in the country. I even said he was sacked over 100 times. Let me be specific. He was sacked 152 times. If that ain't poised to walk away with a 5 to 1 touchdown interception ratio, turn around two programs, I don't know what is, what else there is. So I went through and I saw, you know, what some people are saying that Shadir Sanders needed to be humbled. Why did he need to be humbled? Did Baker Mayfield need to be humble when he came out and was drafted number one overall? No, it was celebrated. Did Joe Burrow need to be humble when he came out? No, no, no, no, no. He went number one and he was celebrated. Cam Newton went number one overall. Ton of confidence, ton of confidence. It didn't make him drop out of the first three rounds. I get it. He's got the elite traits. He's huge. He's. He's a fast athlete, rocket ship of an arm before he got injured. But why was his confidence not the thing that made him drop? That ain't right. I've heard some people say that, you know, Deion Sanders is the biggest issue. I don't think he's the biggest issue, but I certainly think he's. He is an issue for maybe some NFL teams. I talked to a couple of them. They're not afraid of Deion Sanders. They might be afraid of the attention that Shadir Sanders brings because now he's in backup quarterback territory. Getting drafted in rounds four through seven makes you a backup. And some NFL teams might be afraid of the attention that comes to him being the backup for their team, knowing that there's gonna be microphones in him, in front of him and cameras following him everywhere he goes. But that hasn't stopped them from drafting other guys. That doesn't stop teams from bringing in other high profile players that get a lot of media fanfare. So why are we punishing Shadow Sanders for that? We should not be punishing the Suns because we don't like the fathers. Same thing that's happened with LeBron James and Bronnie James. Let Bronnie James go be Bronnie let Shadir Sanders and the tape that he showed that made him a first round pick by all the evaluators, let him go prove it on the field. But for some reason we keep punishing him for that. And I've also seen some pundits talk about, well, we don't need to be mourning that, that Shadir Sanders wasn't drafted in the first three rounds or the first round or whatever. And I get it. Listen, you can't, you can't be tied up emotionally. I know, Shadur, but I'm not making this a personal thing. I am talking about this strictly from a football perspective. I've been in those NFL locker rooms. I was blessed to play eight years not only as a starter, but also as a fringe guy on the, on the, on the bubble to be cut, and then as a backup to Lamar Jackson. I know what these NFL evaluators are looking at. And Shadira Sanders possesses everything that they want. So it's not that anyone's mourning the fact that he wasn't drafting the first round or he fell in the first three rounds. What we're saying is it not only doesn't make sense because of the tape, it doesn't make sense because of his NFL pedigree. We have seen guys get drafted that didn't deserve those spots. Okay, no, hate. Chris Ponder should have been a first round pick. Jake Locker, E.J. manuel, these guys shouldn't have been first round picks. They didn't have the elite traits. Shadur Sanders tape is better. So I'm not telling people to repeat the same mistakes they made in the past. What I'm saying is why? What is it about Shadur that they don't like? Let me know what you think in the comments because I really am trying to figure out what is the issue here. Shadir Sanders should have been drafted in the first round. The fact that he wasn't and the fact that he fell out of the first three rounds is 100%. Some NFL evaluators making it personal. No player is bigger than the league. No player is bigger than the shield. But when we start doing things like this to players like Shadir Sanders who have earned the right with their tape to be drafted not just in the first round, but also in the first three rounds and before some of the quarterbacks that were taken before him, it sets a really bad precedent moving forward. We're telling these young men that, hey, sometimes we might punish you because you're ultra confident because of what you've proven, despite the fact that you've been respectful, we might punish you for your fathers. We might punish you because we just don't like you as a person, despite the fact that you have not done anything to show us that you have character issues, that you have injury issues. It's a very slippery slope. I'm disappointed for the Sanders family, but I'm even more disappointed in the evaluators for how they've allowed this to happen. What you think, baby?
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I totally agree with Robert. I think Shoulder Shader's Provado makes a lot of people, coaches, owners, GMs uncomfortable. And I think that's total BS because Shador should be just like every other quarterback, should be judged by what he does on the field when being drafted. Like, like Robert said, he has not been in any trouble. You have never heard of Shadow Sanders being in trouble. So what is it about him that makes you uncomfortable? Why is him wearing a big chain make you uncomfortable? Why is him be so confident and know his worth make you so uncomfortable? I think that's a bigger question to ask yourself and I think that says way more about you than it said than it says about Shadur. Because I think that tells me the kind of person you are and what you see in people than anything it ever says about Chadur. I saw a tweet when Ken Ward got drafted and the tweet said no fancy suit, no flashy jewelry, nothing extra. This guy's gonna have a long career in the NFL. And my first question in my head was like, why is that determination of having a long career in the NFL? Why can't you have a long career in the NFL if you wear a flashy suit? Why can't you have a long career in NFL if you are confident? If you show up with a big chain, why does that bother people so much when these players are confident or they're flashy or they know their worth, they know what they bring to the table. Why does that bother people so much and why do we celebrate it when a black man shows up with the non flashy suit, no flashy jewelry and just bland. Should I say that? Why do we celebrate that over a black man showing up the way he wants to show up? And I think Shedeur is kind of the victim for that. People are he wants to show up the way Shadur is, the way he's probably always men and people judging for it. And I do think this has played a role in him falling in the draft and I think that's absolutely just not right. And I think I Truly hope Shador will shut all the haters up and will prove everybody wrong whether he goes undrafted, drafted in the fourth, fifth, sixth or seventh round. Because we interviewed Shador and Shiloh both and this was one of both me and Robert's favorite episodes. The media can paint the narrative of you so quickly that people run with that. You don't even have the chance to prove who you really are. And I also think Shoulder is a victim of that because what the media is saying about Shador is not the Shador we met is not the Shadow Robert Text is not the Shador. When you go back what 10 of our episodes, go watch that episode with Shador and please come back and tell me Shador Sanders is what the media says. There is no way. You will come out laughing. You will come out think he's funny. You will come out thinking he has a good heart. There is no way you watch that episode and you say any of that about Shadow Sanders that the media has portrayed him to be because he's not. But the media has so much power that whatever they say about you sticks and that's wrong. So I mean, like I said, I hope Shador shuts all the haters up. And I hope, I hope whether he goes undrafted or he gets drafted in the next couple rounds, I hope he has a freaking glorious NFL career.
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Preach. Preach. You know, listening to, listen to Gretze there just brings back so many, so many things. Like you, you mentioned watching the episode with Chadur, right? And like who he is, we tell kids nowadays, hey, be yourself. Be yourself. Hey, be yourself and, and make sure that you are your true authentic self. And what I've come to find out over the course of my NFL career is that franchise quarterbacks come in all shapes and sizes, all types of athleticism, height, arm strength, weight, whatever it may be. Tom Brady was a six round pick. You talking about Brock Purdy being Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick in the draft, who one of the shorter quarterbacks in the NFL but still find a way to go out there and make it to the NFC championship game or lead his team to the NFC championship game. So when we tell guys to be their true authentic selves and why are we telling guys like myself when I was coming out, you need to cut your hair because you'll, you might be more marketable if you cut your hair or if you're going to come into work, you better make sure that your hair is done braided because if you wear that afro, you're going to make people uncomfortable. That ain't Right? Especially in today's age, if a guy wants to wear jewelry, if he wants to wear his hat backwards or forwards or to the side or whatever it may be, what is wrong with that? Why does that make you so insecure and so upset?
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Yeah, be yourself. As long as you don't make me uncomfortable. Like, that pisses me off to literally my deepest core. Like, and I remember we used to talk about it, you know, you used to tell me you're like, I can't go to work without my hair done. And I'd be like, what does that even mean? Tell me. A white man that has to look presentable enough to go to the facility because their hair is not done. Like, what? I don't get it. That makes no freaking sense to me. And it literally pisses me off so bad. And the fact that we tell kids, be yourself. Be your true authentic self. Like, this is like, we will celebrate who you are and all that, but it always comes with a freaking butt.
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Yeah. And. And I just know that the younger generation is watching this draft right now, and they're seeing a player that not only they love and aspire to be in Shadur Sanders and what he's been able to do over his college career, but they also say to themselves, dang, so I can't be myself. So. So I can't be who I truly am if I'm not breaking the law and I'm not doing anything to hurt anybody. But I'm extremely confident in my abilities because of the production on the field, not false confidence or false bravado. I'm making money because of my production on the field and my marketability. That's the one thing we haven't even touched on, is Shadir Sanders is the most marketable quarterback in the draft class. NFL owners, teams, the. The marketing, you know, the cmos, which is a chief marketing officer for anyone that doesn't know, they focus on, okay, can the guy play? That's the coaches and the scouts and the GM. The. The CMOs are like, can we make money off of this guy? And there's not a bigger money maker in the draft outside of maybe Travis Hunter, then Shadir Sanders. So when you add all those things together, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't send a great message to the youth because Shadir Sanders is. Confidence is not arrogance. We don't want the kids to be arrogant. We don't want them to be unsportsmanlike. But when you score a touchdown in a big game, we want you to have fun. It's okay to celebrate. If you like to wear jewelry and chains, be my guest. Jalen Hurst just won a Super bowl. Had the biggest chain I've ever seen in my life. Okay. And it was sparkly, shiny. Okay. Certified. There's nothing wrong with that. The other thing that, that really came to mind to close this out was just as a parent, you know, we don't have a son yet, but we do have four daughters. Right. And I have to sit here and think to myself, as the first pro athlete in my family, my family got to see me go through this process and get drafted. Number two overall. And just the joy in their face, like, all the hard work, all the dedication, everything that comes with it. You know, the 5am workouts, the times you thought you were going to quit, but they helped you get through that. And to see something ripped away from you as a first round pick, the amount of money that Shadir Sanders has lost by dropping out of the first round, let alone the first three rounds, is monumental. But we all know that's not going to hurt him because he made a lot of money in college and because.
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It was a great quarterback.
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Exactly. And we all know that his father has money because he's one of the greatest corners of all time, was a great TV analyst, and now is a great coach. But as a father, it hurts me knowing that it would kill me as a parent to watch my kid go through something that I know they don't deserve. I know that they've earned. Because you see that word deserve. People get upset about that. Like, hey, life ain't fair. Yeah, nobody said it was. But usually you get what you earn. And Shadir Sanders earned the. The right. Not even the right. He earned the opportunity to be drafted in the first round, second round, or third round of the NFL draft based off of his play. Take away the last name on his jersey, look at his play. And it feels like he's being punished because of the last name on his jersey and because he's confident. And I. I just hate. I hate seeing that because I want to think that the world is. Is better than that, that the NFL circles are better than that.
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And, you know, it has something to do with the last name on his jersey because. And you know, like what you just said, you know, Dion is 100 hurting that that's his son, that's his baby. Like you said, like, he's always gonna be there. That's. He's the dad, you know, he's always gonna want what's best for him.
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And.
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And I almost feel like NFL teams are terrified of that. What do they think? Dion's gonna come in and be the coach? Dion's gonna come in and say, no, he can't run that way. He's gonna run this way. Like, the fact that Dion has been such a good dad terrifies the NFL circles.
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But why? Why is being.
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But that's what I'm saying.
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Why is being a great dad a problem?
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That's what I'm saying. He has been such a good dad. They. That they think that. I feel like they think he's gonna come metal in that, like, in the relationship, because he has always said that. You know, when he said that he's not gonna let Shador go somewhere where he's not supposed to go or whatever he said. Exactly. I feel like the NFL literally thinks that he's gonna come in and medal so hard that. Whatever. But he's not going to. He's just being a good dad. That's what any of us, a parent that loves their kid and wants the best for their kid would do. Like, this whole thing is so freaking messed up that, like, I truly. I truly am so upset about this entire thing. And I truly am upset for the entire Sanders family that this is even what they have to go through. Because, like you said, Travis is literally part of the Sanders family at this point. His last name might be Sanders also.
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Yeah. And they didn't. They didn't. And they didn't punish him.
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I don't.
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And I don't want him to.
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Exactly.
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I don't want him to pull his. Travis. Travis is an amazing player.
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Yes.
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Shadir Sanders is amazing player as well. We'll finish with this because Dion does bring attention, no matter what he says, where he goes, and so does Shadir. But there's more NFL teams that know how to mess a quarterback up than know how to develop them. That's why we're constantly talking about, what's the. What is this team gonna do with this quarterback this year? And what are they gonna do with this quarterback this year? We've had drafts where there's been four, five, six, seven quarterbacks drafted in the first round, and those same teams are drafting a quarterback a couple years later. Why? Because they know how to mess them up. They don't know how to build them up. That is why.
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Wow.
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Archie Manning said that Eli Manning was not going to go to San Diego. He knew if I got him in New York, it'll be the best situation for my son. And nobody, nobody treated Eli the way that they're treating Shadir Sanders. And Shadir Sanders didn't even say he wouldn't go somewhere. So for me, we should not be punishing black fatherhood for them being in their children's lives, having an impact on their lives, because we don't punish white fatherhood for the same exact thing. And I know Eli won two Super Bowls in New York.
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B
There's so will Shitter.
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A
There's no. There's nothing saying that Shadur Sanders won't win a Super Bowl. There's nothing saying that he won't be a franchise quarterback. There's nothing saying that he can't be everything that he has been at the collegiate level. But you gotta give him a chance, and you gotta not punish him because you're afraid of the spotlight that Dion and Shadur bring to the table.
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B
So preach, baby.
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A
That being said, that's the end of this episode. We appreciate you guys listening. It's out of pocket with RG3. Make sure you like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Download our episodes on Spotify and Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. And let's hope that the next generation doesn't become discouraged from what they saw happen to Shadir Sanders over the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Always be yourself. Always be confident and have the bravado from what you've earned on the field of play. Because you, you are enough. And who you are is enough for God. So it should be enough for man. We'll see y' all later. Peace.