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In this episode I’m having a frank conversation with Igor Jelinski, who many know as the Overlanding CEO.

Two years. Five people. One Land Rover Defender.

That was the deal Igor made with himself long before the engine ever turned over. A promise made in his twenties—to walk away before forty and see what was out there.

What followed wasn’t a highlight reel. It was a life compressed into five metal boxes. A family learning how little they actually needed. Nights on beaches that didn’t feel safe. A fall that could have ended everything. And a slow, uncomfortable return to a life that no longer quite fit.

This is not a story about escape. It’s about what happens when you leave—and what stays with you when you come back.

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