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Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're gonna find out what this sound is.
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Katie Dolan, you foal. You've foiled my first two soldiers. The third one won't miss right after this ad.
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You're listening to Giraffe Kings. I was explaining to Dan on the way over here how legit this podcast is and that you do such, like, interesting investigations into things that are, like, fascinating to listen to. And he was like, I thought this was the podcast. I was like, oh, no, we're the goof off day. We're the day where they're like, enough of the real stuff. Here are these two goobers.
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Yeah, it's.
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It's essential to our collective mental health that we have a day, a week where it's just like, can we just like her out?
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Yes. And I think it's every day of my.
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That's right.
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It's every day of my life.
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And that is Lucky charm cereal at that. Like, the real unhealthy.
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Cinnamon toast crunch, Little CTC for dinner.
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I don't know why Apple Jack's is always forgotten.
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Because they're not that unhealthy. There's an apple in them. So I think of those as healthy.
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Cereals for those who are not watching on YouTube and the DraftKings network.
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What's your problem? Are you mad at me?
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Why don't you support Katie Nolan?
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Yeah.
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Why don't you, like, us, march through celebrity Jeopardy history? I want to telestrate this to the extent that we can actually break this down and dissect it.
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Okay?
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Because for those who did not see your quarterfinal run, how would you summarize. Dan, how would you summarize what they.
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May have missed in the quarterfinal matchup?
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That's right.
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It was a thrill ride. Where she came out strong in the first round, you know, is just nailing all the questions.
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Chef Jamie Oliver's website says that if you use lamb instead of beef for cottage pie, it should go by this occupational name.
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Katie, what is shepherd's pie?
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You got it.
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I did. Katie, what is a Leo?
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Correct.
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Katie again, what is a Levy?
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My Chevy to the levy. Yes.
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Then a little detective work by Christopher.
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Christopher Maloney. Detective Stabler.
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Detective Stabler gets on his detective work and starts catching up a little bit.
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A little bit.
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But then Katie has a sizable lead for Final Jeopardy. And then the reveal is, she did the math wrong.
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Math not your favorite part of the game. You just had to wager more than 3500.
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Right.
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And you're a champion. You wagered exactly 35.
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Oh, my God.
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Christopher and Katie.
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Wow.
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Are exactly tied. And we're gonna be going to a tiebreaker clue.
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No. Come on.
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A tide in final jeopardy. Coming down to a final death shootout. One question.
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I've never seen this before.
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Drink up. A famous New Orleans street is named after this dynasty that ruled France for most of the 17th and 18th centuries.
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Katie, what is bourbon?
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It is bourbon. What a great game. Katie Nolan, you are going to the semifinals.
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Fun fact. I'm the first contestant to take a Jeopardy. Any Jeopardy. Episode into the fifth round. Oh.
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Cause there's three in slow triple jeopardy.
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And that's normally not so it was technically the fifth round, so that's something to be proud.
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So you're a historical figure.
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Yeah, the.
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The speed, the clarity, the easiest question on earth.
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The unbiased reporting of her fiance in the recounting the grace.
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So this was different. This is the semi final.
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Different.
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Different.
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This was very different.
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So it's Katie Nolan. It's Stephen Weber, who you might remember from Chicago Med Wings. Wings. Wings.
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For me, he was the guy, the first guy your dad's age you thought was cute if you were me. And I don't think he is my dad's age, but in my head, he was like an adult man. Would you say he was Girls had a crush on?
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Would you say he was the zaddy prototype?
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Yes, I would. Thank you, curly locks. Yeah.
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Well, you got him and Tim Daly. It's just Legion of Doom. It's. It's the road warriors of handsome of early 90s hunkery.
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They were cute.
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You got.
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I mean.
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I mean, they. That show, by the way, FYI, is stacked because you also. It's not just Stephen Weber and Tim Daly on Wings. And yeah, we're going to go down a little wing side road here. I was also got Crystal Bernard as the. As the female protagonist.
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Yes.
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She's unbelievable.
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Yep.
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A lot of people don't realize Tony Shalhoub.
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No.
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AKA Monk.
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No way.
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Played the taxi driver. Antonio Scarpetti.
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Oh, Scarpetti.
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Playing Italian carpacci.
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Excuse me. And then laying in the wings.
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Wings.
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The dauber of the program for any of you coach fans out there with Craig T. Nelson. He really was. I liked him and Dawber because they were both white dudes with extraordinarily deep voices.
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Lol. Gang.
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Lol. Gang dude. Thomas Hayden Church.
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Oh, yeah.
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As lol Mather, the mechanic.
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Iconic.
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I do not remember anything about this show.
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Oh, I actually watched this as a kid.
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So did I. But I don't remember USA.
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You used to run back to back wings from 10am to 11am that was.
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Like Las Vegas that they do. I think now it's Las Vegas.
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Okay. And you just wake up and be like, nothing, nothing, nothing. Wings. Whatever. Let's go to Nantucket for a half.
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Yeah. What does this small airport in Nantucket have going on?
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I want to know the inner working. Yeah, it was an. It was an airport on Nantucket Island. But anyway, that's over. And what he is now is a nemesis.
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I mean, Katie Nolan cannot do an episode of Celebrity Jeopardy. Without getting into a blood feud.
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She gets into beefs from.
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With a white guy from TV that.
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You love with a handsome white dude from the 90s.
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Yep. Oops.
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And also Dulay Hill is there. Shout out to Dulay Hill, the sweetest West Wing.
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So nice.
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Such a delight.
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He was so nice. He also had done. I don't think I'm giving away any secrets because I think that they had to write when it was taped on the corner of the screen because that happened in the episode were taped on the same day. So Dul had just won his semi final and then we did the F. So he was back to back games. And three rounds of Jeopardy. In a row is a lot.
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Yeah.
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Of Jeopardy. In a row.
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You packed an outfit change.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So there's. There's already some psychological.
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This was like a year ago to me. It's very. It's been a very strange experience.
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It was awesome.
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It was a very long time ago.
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I have witnessed a lot of very fun sports games. A lot of sports games. I've been to a lot of fun games. I've been to a lot of cool concerts where maybe my friends were performing. I've been to special tapings. This was the most nerve wracking thing I've ever watched in the audience ever.
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I kept thinking of Dan Soder. Ever. I was watching this for the first time on abc and I want to relive this by going through the. The. The plot of how this unfolded. Because it didn't start off great for our girl Katie Nolan. It did not start off great. It was. It was a lot like this numerical.
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Place names for 500 of the states.
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You can stand in. Really killed the one to the north.
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This one hurt at home.
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I know. Katie, what is Nevada?
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I'm sorry. No, it's actually Utah in the north. Utah.
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Ken, shut up.
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Steven. Steven.
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Steven, shut up.
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Steven.
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You take that humor back to Nantucket.
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I. That killed me. Look, he's from Colorado. I won't get those wrong anymore.
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Somewhere there is a picture at my mom's house of a 10 year old Dan in a dinosaur T shirt in all four states at once. Because that's what you do when you go to the four corners you put. You do the crab in Nevada saying. And you're like, I'm technically enforced playing.
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Twister across four states.
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Colorado, yes. Arizona, New Mexico.
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Correct.
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Never gonna mess that up again.
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Yeah. Four corners.
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But that was that answer. Or. Or incorrect answer.
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Yeah. Thanks.
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Seemed to get in. Into your head a little bit in conjunction with Stephen Weber being a guy who was poking and prodding whole show and whole show and also buzzing in with a speed that put Katie Nolan, who he had praised previously as a champion buzzer inner to shame.
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Yeah. One thing I'm not proud of watching the tape back is how obvious I made it when I buzzed and it didn't buzz when I did. The faces I made. I'm like, I really wish I didn't do that.
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Well, we had. We had watched Celebrity Jeopardy. The season before and noticed BJ Novak, BJ Novak got very mad, very upset when he was like, come on. So we kind of knew where not to go. Like Katie knew, I think we're not to go.
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But I didn't notice until watching it back last night how close I got to getting there. It's very easy to piss you off.
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And when she missed that question, I did react like, like a football dad that cares too much. God damn it, Touch me. And I said, don't touch me. She knows I'm from Colorado.
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The up for you was a category that I just got to point out that was wildly impressive.
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What Now I'm going to tell you.
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You know, Daniel, I'm talking about.
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So. And this is. I'm excited to tell the story because I told this story to Katie while I was going on. I watch Jeopardy. With Katie every night. Word categories. She loves word puzzles. She does crosswords. She just knows words. She likes puns. All that. Words are her strength. She's a very good writer.
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Yes.
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Word categories in jeopardy. She smokes. So when there was an acronym one, I was like, oh, this. And then she started cooking on it.
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This is how animal idiom brain teasers went.
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Animal idiom brain teasers for 200.
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This is her foods with a lot of kids.
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Please be patient for a moment. H Y H Katie, what is.
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Hold your horses.
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That's it.
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Ah, yeah.
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Look at you. So bad.
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Shush.
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That's real brain teasers.
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4, 6, don't forget how many other single people are out there in the dating pool. T A P O F I T S. This is so hard, Katie.
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What is? There are plenty of fish in the sea. What? You got it.
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What is happening?
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There's your wheel of fortune.
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And he hasn't hit his daily double yet, so he's getting nervous.
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Yes.
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Oh, my God.
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Omg.
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All right, let's do. Since he likes it so much, we'll keep doing animal idiom brain teasers for 800.
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Make all the necessary preparations before you start. G Y D I A R Katie.
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What is get yout Ducks in a Row?
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Yes.
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What the hell?
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, gosh.
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Let's do animal idiom brain teasers for 1000. I like this.
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You can do anything you wish or go anywhere you want in this life. T W I Y O Katie, what.
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Is the world is your oyster.
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Wow.
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You have found your category.
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It is yellow on it.
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No.
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He said nope.
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Got him talking crazy.
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Ken said no.
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About the fourth correct answer. I felt like Billy Hoyle and White men can't jump and foods that start with the letter Q. And I leaned over to Ken Jennings, and I swear to God, this is real. Because I had to do it to somebody. I was like, I have to quote, white men can't jump to somebody.
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Yes.
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And I leaned over to Ken Jennings wife, who was sitting an empty seat. And then her. And I said, she's in the zone. And she goes, what? And I went, it's from white men can't jump.
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Who is Rosie Perez? Is a question she might have actually asked you in that moment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. She would have been like, who's Rosie Perez? And you're like, billy, the Stooge brothers are gonna kill you.
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Shout out to Ken Jennings wife in the audience with a blanket over her.
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Leg like a football wife. She had the blanket. She knows how the studio gets cold. Like when you go to a high school football game and you see a family that's had older kids come through and play high school football, they have different things. They have, like, a cooler.
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The seat cushion.
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Yeah, the seat cushion. The mom always has a blanket on her leg.
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Ye.
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Cause they know. And Ken Jennings, his wife, knows that about the Jeopardy. Studio.
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This is how Katie Nolan climbs back into the game, only to set up Steven Weber, who is kind of a little. Playing a. Playing possum, I thought. Because then he gets into the true daily double.
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Yeah.
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And at that point, Katie Nolan.
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I thought it was over.
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Is stressed out.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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Aretha Franklin's 2018 obit cited this song in as a harbinger of feminism carried by a voice that would accept nothing less.
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What is respect?
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You just doubled your money, Stephen.
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Wow.
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When I was watching it, I was like, oh, yeah, like this.
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I was like, oh, damn.
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It was a good run. This was funny. Some funny moments.
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I'm sweating through my shirt. I don't sweat a lot in my armpits. I sweat.
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Does it.
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I sweated through my shirt.
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I was. And I was thinking. Because again, same day. So earlier in the day, Dan was doing a podcast, Shout Out Bill Burr. He had do Bill Burr. And I was like. He's like, if it were anybody else, honestly consider.
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I have a lot of friends in la. I'm a massive Bill Burr fan.
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And I was like, I get that.
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And she's like, I'm recording Celebrity Jeopardy. And I was like.
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But he. But we were lucky because it made you be in la. So when we were. So we were out there together. But anyway, I. So I did the first episode, and I won, but I almost lost. And in that moment, I was thinking, thinking, oh, no, Dan's not gonna get to see me on Jeopardy. But I won. So then we go to this next one. And at that point, I thought, oh, no, he's only. He's gonna see me lose. He's not gonna see me win. This is a real bummer. I brought him here just to lose in his face.
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And then I was thinking at the time, I'm gonna go online and buy every DVD of Wings and burn it like Fahrenheit 451. I'm gonna go burn all the copies.
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Of George do it.
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Just burn it off the planet. I'm gonna ask for it to be released from Paramount. It was a pleas. It was. Man, it was scary.
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But it really helped that he was being a jerk.
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Yes.
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Because then I was like, let's go.
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But end of Double Jeopardy. That, my friends, is where this story really escalates.
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New York Times obituaries for a million. Ken.
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600.
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We can do 600.
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Okay.
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This surrealist's 1989 obit noted, when he hallucinated in the late 1920s, the whole world hallucinated with him. Stephen, who is Dolly? Correct again.
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New York times obituaries for eight.
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Weird sound.
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The growl.
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His 2018 obit described him as a physicist and author who roamed the cosmos from a wheelchair. Stephen, who's hawking? Yes. Obituaries for $1,000. Let's finish it off. This actor's 2016 obit mentioned he had outlived by about 34 years. An erroneous report of his death that made him a cult figure. Stephen.
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Who's Abe Vagoda?
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You just ran that category. Stephen.
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Yep. Very good.
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Very good, Steven. Very good, Very good.
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I've got the God thumb. Stephen. Is one of the advantages of getting older, being very good at obituary trivia.
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Yes. Let me tell you something, man. Okay?
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Seriously.
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I read the New York Times obituary.
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Looking for your friends.
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Look.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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I don't know if I have heard a Jeopardy. Crowd turn into, like, Rucker Park.
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Yeah, it was. What you didn't see was me running up and down the audience with a. I had a bullhorn. Oh, that's how we play around here. Half lady, half amazing. His wings got clipped. Oh, yeah, they really were. It turned into a def jam.
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Oh, my God.
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W. And. Which was great. It was, man. It was fun to watch. It was very. That episode was so fun to watch because there was a good. It's like wrestling. Good heel. There was a good babyface.
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We had real heat in commercial breaks, which I didn't realize until afterwards that most of his talking didn't make air because it was during commercial breaks. And so I think in the months since we did that, I told Dan I was like, I'm worried that I'm gonna look like a real jerk with that line about the obituaries if that makes it in. Because I don't think any of the stuff he was doing to me made it to air. But it. But watching it back. It did.
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So how would you characterize what he was doing in between?
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He was. He was just trying to get Dan's attention. He was talking to Dan in the audience, and he kept talking. Yeah, I know. But I was trying to be a little nice about it. But anytime I would say anything, he would go, you got real lucky with this one. To Dan, like, he wouldn't address me.
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He identified D in the crowd. Cuz Dan, of course, was running through.
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The aisles with a bullhorn that was pretty loud about.
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It addressed Dan. But like, it was like I said something to him and then he would turn to a gu. My. The. My man who wasn't even on stage, and turn to him and address him instead of answering.
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How? I walked Katie to stage. I held her hand like this, and then I walked her on stage. I said, you're safe here. I'll come and get you after the game. That's why Stephen was talking to me delicately.
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Set her down at the dais and.
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I said, I'll come back for you.
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Now. Don't move.
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Ok?
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I don't wander away.
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If he needs to speak to someone, I'll be in the audience. Speak to me.
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Yeah. So that after the, like, fifth time he did that, I was like, I think genuinely.
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I think you said, I'm sitting right here.
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Or I said, like, stop doing that. And then he went, okay.
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Yeah.
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Triple jeopardy is upon us. This is when it happens. And Stephen Weber, at this point, just for. For clarity, had more than doubled your score. He'd run the category, the obit stuff. It was a great burn, but clearly motivated by a. I'm losing a. A.
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A great heel work.
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A fear.
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Yeah, you could say a fear.
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Sure, that I sensed, at least as your friend. But that fear didn't show up when this happened.
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There's an app for that. 900.
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The answer there.
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Let's go.
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Hey.
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Yeah.
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Now, a big wager here could really change this game. Katie, what'll it be?
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Love it.
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All in. Bam.
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Hands to the center of the table.
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$9,000.
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Didn't say a word.
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There's an app for that. Here's your clue. A 2000 miler is someone who has hiked this entire route from Maine to Georgia.
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What is the Appalachian Trail?
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Appalachian. Appalachian.
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The pure excitement. The pure excitement.
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Whole new ball game.
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That's exhilarating.
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It's pretty good, right?
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Yeah, I liked that quite a bit.
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The transparency of emotion was my favorite thing to track with you.
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Yeah. You could watch it in all forms. You got to see her become frustrated, become sad, become despondent, and then get back, grab a little lightning, and then start moving.
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I'm an open book, folks.
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Well, you end up getting in triple jeopardy. All three daily doubles.
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Yeah, I was on purpose. I hunted.
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You knew where to go.
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I was hunting. I was like, look at this point, because I had. We had talked about it before, and it was like something like the numbers show that even if you get them wrong, it's better than letting your competitor get them statistically. So I was like, okay, what I have to do is take the daily doubles off the board. So I'm gonna wait.
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How do you hunt them?
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You look around like the 6, 8. Well, in triple jeopardy, what are the numbers?
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I don't know.
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It's like 3 6, 3 6, 9. So you look around like the middle. Middle to the bottom. Very rarely are they the actual bottom, but sometimes. But usually like those, you know, bottom ones. And so I went hunting for them, and I found them, and I took them off the Board.
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There's one daily double where you almost like, look off screen.
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It seems like before I wager.
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Yes.
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It was at Dan. I was trying to see how much I should do because I genuinely was like, I don't know. It was.
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I had those college football signs where it was like a picture of a cat, Oregon Duck. A phone 3000. That's right. And then I had another guy in the same color hat, but different color. The same hat.
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He was with orange gloves under the Conor Stallions.
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Yeah, I had done so I had just done the Holtz Hour, which is the all in, where I pushed the chips in. That was the first because I knew I needed to do that. Then at that point, when the next daily double hit, I think I was either tied or in the. It was closer.
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Yes.
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And I didn't want to wager much.
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You hadn't had the lead yet.
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But I didn't want to wager too much and lose it and be too far behind.
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Steven's lead is at risk here, Katie. What will you do?
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But it's the first clue of the category, so I'm a little nervous. But let's do. Let's do 5,000.
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All right.
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And I can't remember if I looked at you before I said it or as I was saying it, because you either gave me a thumbs up that it was the right idea or you might. I mean, did you do this? Did you give me a full Price is Right five?
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I think I might have been saying five.
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I was like, we had somehow come to the exact same. And you were like, I was just looking for support because if he went like this, I would have been like, I mean, all of it.
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I don't know.
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I was way on board.
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I just needed someone to be like, that's good.
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That's my whole philosophy the entire time cornering her was grip it and rip it.
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He did great. So great.
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And this is why Steven Weber hated Dan Soders guts.
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No, he loved Dan Sodor.
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I wanted the silk shirt that boxing corners have where I could. I could call her Katie Daily Double Nolan and come in with like, you know, a towel in a bucket. Yeah.
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I kept asking to put Vaseline on my face.
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Commercial breaks coming into your eyebrows.
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Yeah. Just leave a big chunk of it.
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Yeah.
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So this brings us to Final Jeopardy. Okay. The category is television history. And I'll just recap the scores here. Dulay Hill, thank you for coming. 6,700. Stephen Weber, $27,400. Katie Nolan, $36,400. Everything is up for grabs if your name is not Dule Hill. But the blood thirst. A final Jeopardy went like this.
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According to the BBC, this 1953 eventually did more than any other to make television a mainstream medium. Dulay Hill, we come to you first. $6,700. Shaking his head.
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Yeah, no.
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What did you write down?
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Yeah, no, I don't know.
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That is correct. Did he come up with the correct response? What is the end? What is the end? Is it the end for you? How much did you risk?
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It's the end for us.
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27,400. You bet it all tied with Dulay at the moment.
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Katie Nolan, did you know right then?
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Yes, because I knew. I didn't wager all Beatlemania.
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It's a little early for Beetle Man.
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I know.
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Apparently, the big ratings hit for the BBC in 1953. The coronation of Queen Elizabeth.
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Wow.
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That's why people bought TVs. So Katie's not correct if she wagered at all. We have a very interesting situation. No, she didn't. 19,000 drops her down to 17,400.
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The true joy. The real joy.
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Jeopardy. Finally. I mean, what a game.
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Great job.
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I mean, watch him be like, give.
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Me my thumb back. Give me my. He's like, give it back to me.
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You know what's funny is that was the Arthur Smith Saints game. Mike catch. You know, they. You know, they cut. What the was that? What are you doing? That was her going great. You didn't even do the la hands. You went.
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You grabbed his.
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Can we.
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Can we zoom in on the thumb grab?
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I was. I held it up. I held it up. And he was like, I'm done with this.
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The Alpha. Katie Nolan, give me your thumb.
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I'm gonna break your thumb. You think that was cute? Don't with me. I'm Katie Nolan. You are so great. You speed it up.
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Katie Dolan, both Andre the Giant, but also Chun Li. If you win a fight in Street Fighter. Just like the unbelievable, like the giggling, like.
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I know exactly which celebration you're talking about. That was Katie winning. It was awesome.
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It was very.
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It was awesome. When just being there, being like very cool.
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It was just a cool feeling. I know it's stupid. I know. I know. It's Celebrity Jeopardy. I know. But I watch Jeopardy. All the time and you never are going to get a chance to play even just like that construct of a game. Never mind with how difficult the questions are. Being able to like hunting daily doubles was so fun. Where I was just like, oh, I'm like. Like you said early I think about this a lot when you're like. It's like a make a wish situation. I was like, oh, I get to. I get to do what the really smart people do and, like, did. It was so fun. It was so fun. It was so fun.
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You got Ken Jennings.
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Ken was so great. Yeah, it was awesome. It was really awesome.
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What's the post game like?
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So the best moment is I'm very glad that they got it on camera that they sent me these pictures, and I was like, aha. Dan was allowed, like, up on the soundstage. I looked over, and you were walking up on the st. And I just ran over to Dan and I jumped on him. It was the best. And they got a picture of it and made me cry. It was really sweet.
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It was very cool. It was very cool.
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It was awesome. And you get in the car and you drive back to your hotel, and you're just like, I can't tell anybody.
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The driver was super sweet. The driver she gave her for the day, he was with her for the first episode, then drove her back to the hotel between the two episodes. And he was like. It was like Rocky too. He, like, threw down blessings for her.
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He blessed me when I got out of the car when we first got there.
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And then she did it on the second one where she was even leaving the car. She's like, hey, you want to throw me down a blessing? You know? He's like.
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And not to say I violated.
B
I want you to win. Not just me waking up from a weed nap. I'm not in the hospital after the birth of our son. I just took a deep weed nap. And she's like, I'm scared. Is that what you want me to say?
C
Not to say I violated the NDA, but when I came out of the second taping, he went like this. And I gave him a thumbs up, and he was like, yes. He was so happy for me. It was so sweet.
A
What happens next?
C
So next is the final. That's January 23rd. As of right now, we know it's me and Lisa Ann Walters from.
A
I thought it was gonna be a different Lisa Ann. And I was like, whoa.
C
When people were saying Lisa Ann, at first I was like, really? And then I was like, oh, Walters. Okay. Got it, got it, got it.
B
Yeah. From Abbott Elementary.
C
Yeah.
A
Very good.
C
Or Parent Trap if you're from my generation. Or many other things she's been working for. She's very Working for a very long time. She's a wonderful, sweet woman. So that's what we know that's January 23rd. The. The finals of celebrity Jeopardy.
A
So you're waiting for a third?
C
Yes. We do not have a third yet.
A
You're waiting for a third person to have acted on a Dick Wolf produced television show?
C
Yeah, pretty much.
A
Steven Weber, Chicago Med.
B
Oh, wow. Dick Wolf is sitting somewhere in an office like Dr. Claw, right? Katie Nolan, you fold. You've foiled my first two soldiers.
A
The third one to miss the mortal Kombat totem pole. That leads to iced tea.
B
Yeah. What is a rape? No, I'm legitimate, man.
A
So that was a special beginning to share and tell. I do want to bring in a story, though.
C
Oh, okay.
A
You know, because we talk about stories here. A story about how to pronounce the word. Do we say vase? Do we pronounce vase?
C
Oh, I say. I think. I say vase, which I think is a split in the different. Both wrong.
B
Are two different things.
C
A vase. They are and a vase are not two different things.
B
Look it up.
C
How?
B
I don't know. I taught that a long time ago. Maybe I'm wrong, but look it up.
C
By who?
A
Vase feels like a fancier vase.
C
It's like Target Tarjay. It's not. You think a vase is different than a vase?
B
I think a vase is.
C
If you had to guess what the.
D
Distinction between the two.
B
I don't remember why, but I just.
A
Remember Dan was so instinctive with the dude.
C
That's my favorite. When he has the instinctive confidence. The second you ask a follow up and you just see his face go, well, isn't it Right.
B
So Nate Bargettsi used to call him Sodor Facts. Where? And Katie's learning that they're bountiful. One time. One time Nate and I were drinking beers and he goes, when did Red Fox die? And I go like 1984. And he goes, I mean, is that a soda Fact. And yeah, and then he looked it up and it was completely wrong. It was like in the 90s, but.
C
The quickness with it.
B
But I'm pretty sure vase. And I don't know, that might be.
C
There's no. There'd be no way to look it up. Are vase and vase two different things? Is what you have to type. It doesn't even make sense. You writing it. V A H S. I don't even know.
A
There is. I like how they're both. For people who are listening to the podcast. They're both googling it. This is not going anywhere.
C
No.
A
There is no way to distinguish.
C
No, that's. But I just want to prove it.
A
What we can do, though, what relationships are right. Scoring points right here, we need to know.
B
Wrong. I thought one was you could look through it and one you couldn't. I thought like a vase that feels.
A
Like a follow up song.
C
You mean like transparent and trans.
B
Translucent. Yeah, but I feel like in the vase and vase world, they're like in the flower world. In the world. If you'll follow me there.
A
Come with me to the world of pottery.
B
I swear to God, I. I don't know. I'm.
C
I wouldn't swear to any God just to be safe.
B
Well, how do we even know God's real?
C
We don't.
B
So there you go. I'm agnostic, so I can swear to whatever I want. I'm swearing to a thing that feels bigger.
A
Vase and vase. The same difference between agnostic and atheist. Like, one does not believe in God actively. The other one just doesn't know.
B
Pablo, thank you. I think that's the perfect analogy for what I'm trying to say. And that is, is that we're all full of. But I'm so sure the God that's real.
C
But anyway, let him get to us. We're not even at the story that we need to talk about.
B
I don't care. I'm fired up. I don't give a rat.
C
Appalachian, Appalachian, who cares?
B
And by the way, I saw you take your time. I saw you line up the shot on that and then swing through.
C
You know, I learned Appalachian when I was little, but somewhere along the line I thought I learned I was wrong and that it's Appalachian. But then when I said Appalachian, he said Appalachian back to me. I had a moment where I was like, am I going to lose this on a technicality?
B
It's a real vase. V situation. Two different things. Appalachian, Appalachia.
A
I would like to bring you guys though, to a real vase or vaz situation that happened in Alabama.
C
Yeah, it's definitely a vase.
A
This is.
B
That's a vase.
A
This is a New Year's Eve party in Mountain Brook, Alabama. And I was on Twitter watching these dispatches come in. Can we throw them on screen, please? Because it started with this quote. Casual Thursday is the user. We have a man stuck in a decorative urn at this Mountain Brook house party. I repeat, we have a drunk man stuck in a large decorative urn at this Mountain Brook house party. Details as they develop. Great details developed. He was laughing at first, but now he's starting to get upset.
B
Yes, of course.
A
The women are trying to comfort him. Oh, there is talk of attempting to break the.
C
Of course, the first thing I'd think.
B
Have never identified more with a news story. As a guy growing up, that would do the dumb to get a laugh. And then I still do it.
C
I know. No, I was gonna say, you mean you're talking to the lady who spent a New Year's Eve party locked in a dog crate. Yeah, she get in the dog crate. And I was like, ha, ha. So funny. And then they lock you in. And then you're like, okay.
B
I always thought it was really funny.
C
Let me out of the dog crate.
B
I always thought it was really funny to go to parties in high school. And if the car was too full, I'd the trunk. And I always thought it was funny to come out of the trunk at the party. Some of your friends don't have good shocks. And you go over stuff and you get real hurt laying in the trunk. And then everyone opens the trunk thinking you come out like. And you're like. So I've done the thing where you're like.
C
Now see an ear, though.
B
Well, I bet it doesn't look like an urn.
A
We should see what it looks like.
C
We should. It's an urn.
B
I'm doing everything.
C
It's me. That would be so me.
B
Damn it. Oh, my God. Who is the. My sweater off. He's got that. Leslie, who's your guy?
C
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.
B
Leslie, I'm about to bust.
C
Is it. Is this a work party? Look at that man doing nothing. Oh, my God. That guy doesn't care.
B
Dude, Chrisley Knows Best is in some real trouble right here. What if the funniest thing would be.
C
He'S still having fun? So this is early days, huh?
B
What if it was just he had to take his sweater off and that was the one thing.
C
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'd be so embarrassed.
A
So I have to shout out, oh.
B
They didn't show the relief. I wanted to see him stand up.
C
This is the guy who watches videos of people getting their dreads shaved off. He needed that moment.
B
Shout out if you're like me. It's very fun.
A
The Pimple popper.
B
Yeah, yeah. Pimple popper. It's the same itch.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Pimple popper just kind of wigs me out.
C
They've gotten too much. Can I just.
A
Sometimes there's just too much.
C
I love pimple popper. But now they're doing those. It's like a whole.
B
Now they have prizes coming out. And I'm like, is that a decoder ring?
C
After they Squeeze some man. They have to like cut a line. What is this?
A
Magician scarf.
B
Just push it out and go. Oh my God.
C
Regular pimples.
B
If I were. If I were Dr. Pimple Popper, I would get good at slide of hand and then I would have one of those matrix trackers where I'd go, you're in the matrix that was put in me.
A
I want to credit Pablo Tori finds out correspondent Christy Yamaguchi Main.
C
That is the user shout out Yamaguchi Main.
B
Great name.
A
Found the video on Reddit, posted it, got an anonymous video from that ifrt angle, sent in and then interviewed this guy which gave me some background detail on who this gentleman is.
B
Well, I'll tell you right now, his name is either Cooper or Cameron. Roll Tide. I don't know, daddy, I don't know. I climbed in the urn and sat native American style.
C
Now I kick it out.
B
My hips are hurt my hippies. My hips hurt my knees. His name is Connor, of course.
A
How dare you. His name is Connor. He works for an architectural firm in Birmingham. No, Specializing in high end residential design.
C
Well, I don't know about that.
A
That urn.
B
Yeah, how do you do architecture and don't know the measurements?
C
You have a design brain. And you didn't realize that that furniture don't fit in that room?
A
That. This urn, which was worth apparently $2,600.
C
Oh my God. Does he have to pay it? I'm sure his dad's got it.
B
Yes, for just being honest, I think he got away with something with $2,600. Because in the world of urns, you don't. I don't know the world of earns. Do you two know the world?
C
I don't know. Is it the same as the Vase Voss world or is it a different.
B
World when I am. When my day in court comes and I am proven wrong by someone out there on the vast space of the Internet.
C
The vost first, what is the event that they're at? Do we know? Is it a wedding?
A
A New Year's Eve party?
B
Okay, but the point I was trying to make was that that V that earned could have been like $50,000. Like you don't know you climb in something like that. Especially in those weird Alabama cocktail parties. Yeah, those. The Southern Eyes Wide Shut parties where it's all mason jars with lamps and they're all in button ups under sweaters. No, no way, man. You could have gotten some real trouble there.
A
There might have been some other stuff in there before you got.
C
Did he check you Think so.
A
Apparently, other people had done this before him.
C
Oh, that's even more embarrassing. You're the straw that broke the camel's back.
A
And so he tried video. You can sort of hear him plaintively whimper that his boots got stuck the wrong way. Like he had to tuck his former junior Olympian. Maybe you can relate to that.
C
He had some light on it.
A
Yeah, His. His. His boots should have been tucked underneath, and instead they went out. And so he couldn't.
C
They couldn't possibly have gone out. They must have been like this. Yeah, yeah, because they couldn't possibly have been like that.
A
Well, I think they. They ended up at the bottom, allegedly like that.
B
I think that's where he Dr.
C
Your ankles. Yeah. I'm regretting that I wore white socks. I was like, no one will see my outfit today. And then I'm up here being like.
B
You got your Elvis Presley on.
C
Yeah, I look like a real cool lady. Anyway, he's definitely stuck like this, which would really hurt your ankles.
A
Yeah, they had to break him out. I mean, that was the end of the video. You hear sound.
B
We can.
A
I'm going to show you.
C
I mean, this on some of those illegal websites.
A
We can. Torrent. Torrent.
C
You have to pay to see the finish.
A
This is what he was wearing. He's holding up a sign, like he's a tiny proof of life. It says, I am the real Connor Padgett. Yes. I was the guy stuck in the vase.
B
Vase. Lord Mother, Mother.
A
Yes. These are the same pants.
B
Yeah. Dude, look at the loafers. No socks.
C
Still white, though. The. Still off white. They're not dirty at all. Yeah.
B
This guy gets stamped for the Kentucky Derby.
C
He's very pink. Oh, my God. They just left the top on him. That's very funny. They should have just made him go around the rest of the night like that.
B
Shame. Like a little.
C
Yeah. We'll get you out to the point you're not in danger, but you still need to be ashamed. Yeah. So we're gonna leave your arms trapped.
B
What?
C
In the.
B
Nick Saban. Why can't I get out of this? Help. Oh, help. I'm a damsel in distress. You would never want that video. You would never want that video of you realizing you can't get out of something.
C
No. Absolutely not.
B
Because that moment.
C
But much like the Jeopardy, it was fun to watch him go through all those emotions with nothing in between us and how he was feeling. I knew exactly how that guy was feeling every second of that video Of. Of like. Well, now, hold on, guys. You're still laughing. Can somebody.
B
The feeling I had when you both looked at me when I said VAs and Vs were different.
A
When you're like, I'm stuck there. There is very little way out of this.
B
I'm stuck.
C
I think I'm stuck.
B
I'm stuck.
C
How do I get out?
B
It's recorded.
C
Break it. Somebody break it.
B
Stuck. Dude.
A
Have you ever been stuck like inside of Ooh.
B
Cuz like she's got the dog crate.
A
Right, right.
B
I'm trying to think of where I've been stuck before.
A
I know Dan Leitard has a recurring nightmare where he is stuck inside of like a slide or a.
C
That's scary.
A
Upside down.
C
Oh my God, that's terrible.
B
Scary.
A
There's like those videos of. I mean, this is a genre of Internet video now where it's like.
C
It's also a genre of.
B
What's crazy is people go like, that guy's stuck. I want to him.
C
I think I thought it was girl. I thought it was like that lady's cleaning under the table.
B
It's always like a lady like in a toy house.
C
Like, there's no way that wouldn't jostle her free. Like at this point, she's not stuck anymore. She's pretending.
B
How weak are you her? That she's still stuck. Throw some hips into it. My God, man.
A
Connor, throw some hips into it.
C
Yeah. Come on.
B
He goes, I tried and let me tell you, my feet are. We were stuck like Alabama at the 25 yard line.
C
Have you ever been stuck?
B
Have I ever done stuck porn?
C
No. Have you ever been stuck?
B
I'm trying to think. What? Listen. Yes. It's just about us finding it.
C
Finding it. Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
B
I've absolutely been stuck before. I'm trying to think where.
C
I feel like there's been times I've put a shoe on and then tried to take it off and been like, oh my God, this is going to be on forever. Or like a ring. You put a ring on and you're like, oh, I can get it on. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I can't get it on.
A
I did stick a finger and this is not.
C
You gotta finish the sentence.
B
Yeah.
A
If pornographic in the way that.
C
Well, we wouldn't have thought it if you just finished Stuck.
B
If you're human, it's gonna go pornographic. If your next dancer is in any.
A
Way a human being in a Corona bottle.
B
Oh, okay.
C
I can see that.
B
I think I've had a similar thing like that. When you're learning to Put the lime in.
A
Yeah.
B
And then you're like, oh, my. Middle of my fingers fatter than the other. Yeah.
C
Stuck breaking that thing.
A
I remember breaking it.
C
Moment of like immediate sweat. You know when your body just goes like. And it's like cold sweat. And you're like, oh, no.
B
That's what I mean. With the embarrassment of what Conor went through, like you have that moment. It's now an Internet thing with that moment where you go, like.
C
Do you think he's got beef with the guy who originally tweeted it out or do.
A
You think like down the road that guy who tweeted out. The original journalist on this story was. Was the bartender hired at this park.
C
That makes it so much better. I love that. I love that.
B
I love it. Someone that didn't want to be there.
C
Yeah. And saw some that had been not tipped by that guy. All night long, probably.
B
He's like, why would I give it to you? You're just my drink jockey. Excuse me, I'm gonna go take a dip in this urn. I sell high end apartment compl. What are you, a bartender? Bye, loser.
C
And then you hear, got a guy stuck in a vase, folks.
B
Got it.
C
I got a vase. Guy who reported it.
B
He's just wearing one of those hats that has press in it.
D
Son of a.
B
Gave it away.
A
The photos that we don't have are. Are of Connor. Apparently. He was just without pants for the rest of the night.
C
What?
B
Yeah.
C
Then how did he have them on in the interview?
B
Who is Donald ducking inside the earth, do you think? He was naked with just the loafers on?
A
So this is a follow up dispatch from the journalist bartender. Yeah, he wanted a double makers on the rocks after. After escaping from the earth.
C
And I said, can you reach your wallet?
A
Yeah, I gave it to him. And now he's drinking alone and having a cigarette. Still pantsless in the corner of the yard.
C
Pantsless.
B
I mean, if you're gonna be pantsless. A double makers in a cigarette is a way to work.
C
Yeah. You're going through something.
B
So a lot of these exhales.
D
I.
B
Never thought I was going to get out. There was the moment where I thought I was going to have to start identifying as an urn or a vase. Vase. I love those jokes. I love when comedians take pronouns and throw it back in the little faces. He's the kind of guy that still gets amped for a pronouns joke.
A
So what did we find out today, guys?
C
What did we learn?
B
That we've all been Connor and we've all Been the bartender.
C
That's so true.
B
Right?
C
That vase and that vase and boss are two different things. Are the exact same thing.
B
We'll die on this hill. On this Dulay hill.
C
That's good.
B
What is do? Yeah, man, that was. That's a wild story. That's something that you back 20 years ago would tell a friend about.
A
Well, that's. That's what I learned today, is that there are always videos somewhere. As long as there are like three people at a party.
B
Yeah, as long as anyone has the. Has the foresight fight, they go, pull out your phone. I went to a UFC event over 15 years ago with my good friend Louis J. Gomez. And we went and we were at. It was Chael Sonan versus Jon Jones in New Jersey.
A
And we get one.
B
It was a fun fight. I'd never been to a UFC event. We were up. My friend Shanda, who worked there, got his tickets, but we were up. And I was like, man, the energy here is violent. Like, oh, we're at a fight. But I've been boxing matches. It was different. It was like.
A
Cause I say I boxing matches, to me, it's the. It's the electricity of knowing that someone's about to be humiliated.
B
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's also the combative energy of like, oh, it's like kind of similar to football, where you go, like, we're about to witness organized violence in a way that's satisfying for everybody. But at the. At that specific UFC event, I felt like, oh, everybody here wants to be in the ring in the octagon. And so we were watching this like 8 mile looking white dude, right? This is like 2009 or 10, 8 mile looking white dude, starts getting into it with some very Jersey Italians. And Lewis, who loves ufc, is in a lot of confrontations, had the foresight to go, pull out your phone, there's about to be a fight. And I was like, no, there isn't. And we sat there.
A
He was a crowdfight, Minority Report.
B
He knew it. He felt it. He was like, oh, it's about to happen. And we just sat there, and within five minutes, it was a full on brawl. It was a full on brawl in four of us. And I was like, it had me. I earned. I got respect for those that film fights for world star, because I'm like, to know that it's coming and to get your phone up and the angle, you gotta get the right angle in the right angle. And Louis just knew it.
C
It.
B
And that's what I was saying is like, Having that foresight is crazy to know when that's going to happen.
A
Yes.
B
And so that if someone has that and you do something stupid, you're.
C
I also relish these videos now because I feel like we're entering into an age where there's a lot of staged things like this.
A
Right.
C
That go viral and you feel like does nobody else notice that this is staged? Or people are getting so caught up in the conversation.
A
The airplane.
B
Yeah, yeah. Where you can tell cuz there's like.
C
And there's a cool one too where somebody's getting kicked out of a school and it's the same classroom and you're like this isn't a no class.
B
It was like Saved by the Bell where they would have the same room for different classes. You go what do you mean your math class is where the shop is? Yeah, it's right across the hall from Belding's office.
C
And so you're getting so many of those now that when you get one of these you're like oh I. I cherish this because it's. This is clearly real. And it's not just about the conversation because a lot of times people just get so into the like I would never do that. Or that's the woke left. That's the future. It's. They all just start fighting and nobody goes the video's fake. Did anybody notice that? The video fake. This is just like no. A true natural thing that really did happen. And we can all just go. You ever been stuck in something and.
B
Now people will even go like you'll say like that video is fake. And they're like I don't care. It brings up the point of a.
C
Good conversation we should be having.
B
Just disregarding that. That was cuz the plane stuff. You're right. School. It's always the same in the plane. There's like lights that are on the. I've never seen. What is this? A 16 year old's room trying to get. This is a. That's not a delta flight. It's like he's got different color lights on. Like he's the cool kid in high school.
C
Well now that's just everybod I know.
B
But remember in high school, shout out my friend Adam. You'd go to his house and you'd be like did he ever get it dark purple lights? He was the one that got women out of our friends. Is this why I just have a very bright light and 49ers posters on my wall? Is this why I'm so high and dry?
A
Katie And Dan, Pablo and Dan, Katie and Pablo.
B
Vase, Vase. My vase and my vase.
A
I. I cannot wait for the championship.
B
January 23rd. Happy birthday, Kevin. Happy birthday.
C
Happy birthday, Myrtle.
A
Wow. Happy birthday to everybody in Myrtle and everybody in Katie's life.
B
And then Katie shall ascend to the top.
C
Tune in.
B
It's nice.
C
Thanks for letting me talk about it.
A
Stephen Weber. Go yourself.
B
Hey, I. But I think now that it's over.
C
He was nice afterwards. He messaged me last night, good, go get him, kid. Or something like that. And I wanted to be like, you know how this ends. You know exactly how this ends.
B
Yeah. You know who wins.
C
What do you want me to say?
A
You know, you know the M that gets got.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
You know that you are M. But.
B
We'Ve all, we've forgiven, you know.
C
Yeah. Every. It's all, it's. Look, I leave it on the field.
A
I leave it all on the field. This is the post game press conference now.
C
I leave it all on the field. It was, we talked good trash. He played a great game. I, I, I was angry at his thumb, but I respect it. But now that we're off the field, that's a, that's my competitor. That's. We are, we are one and the same. Sure, one of us is a little younger, but other than that, we're basically the same, so I respect him.
A
Normal way to grab a thumb.
C
Yeah, everybody does that.
A
Everybody does that.
C
Everybody. When you win a thumb war, when you win a thumb war, you go like this. You should have the winning thumb.
B
You should have gone, lights out, buddy boy. Break it. It.
C
Oh.
B
Oh.
C
That's all.
A
Shout out LOL lol LOL and one more shout out to the people who produce Pablo Tor finds out Michael Antonucci Ryan Cortez Sam Dwig Juan Galindo Patrick Kim Neely Loman Rachel Miller Howard Ethan Schreier Carl Scott Matt Sullivan Chris Tominiello and Juliet Warren Studio Engineering Priority Systems Post Production by NGW Post Art Theme song by John Bravo I'll talk to you on Tuesday when we debunk an enormous lie. See.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Episode: Inside the "Jeopardy!" Gauntlet: Share & Tell with Katie Nolan, Dan Soder, and Pablo
Date: January 12, 2024
In this lively, comedic Share & Tell episode, Pablo Torre is joined by sports and comedy personalities Katie Nolan and Dan Soder to dissect Katie's dramatic run on Celebrity Jeopardy!. The trio relives the high-stakes, reality-TV-style showdowns with both humor and genuine reflection, exploring everything from the mechanics of hunting Daily Doubles, the psychological toll of TV competition, to hilarious tangents about 90s sitcoms, vases, and viral party fails. The discussion offers both a deep inside look at what it's like to compete on the legendary game show and a wider meditation on competitive spirit, friendship, and the joy of shared ridiculousness.
Nolan faces Stephen Weber (the "zaddy prototype" and sitcom heartthrob) and Dulé Hill. Hilarity ensues with 90s TV deep-dives, particularly recollections about Wings. (04:02–05:38)
Both Katie and Dan describe the stress and nerve-wracking experience, for both contestants and audience:
Early flubs crop up, e.g., Katie mixing up states in a geography question—a mistake prodded repeatedly by Weber:
Dan Soder, on Katie regaining momentum:
"You got to see her become frustrated, become sad, become despondent, and then get back, grab a little lightning, and then start moving." (19:44)
Katie, on the fun of competing on Jeopardy:
"Being able to like hunting daily doubles was so fun…It's like a make a wish situation. I was like, oh, I get to do what the really smart people do." (25:06)
Pablo, on viral embarrassment:
"Well, that's what I learned today, is that there are always videos somewhere. As long as there are like three people at a party." (43:47)
Dan, on the universally embarrassing nature of being stuck:
"We've all been Connor and we've all been the bartender." (43:21)
On rivalry and sportsmanship:
Katie: "We talked good trash. He played a great game. I, I was angry at his thumb, but I respect it. But now that we're off the field…We are one and the same. Sure, one of us is a little younger, but other than that, we're basically the same, so I respect him." (48:37–48:56)
On how an emotional 'Jeopardy!' audience can get:
Pablo: "I don't know if I have heard a Jeopardy! crowd turn into, like, Rucker Park." (15:56)
“Inside the ‘Jeopardy!’ Gauntlet: Share & Tell” delivers a joyous blend of comedic chaos and heartfelt reflection. Listeners gain rare, behind-the-scenes access to what it’s really like to brave the “Jeopardy!” set as a celebrity, the tactics for playing to win, and the delightful mayhem that ensues when competitive spirits, personal histories, and internet culture collide. The rivalry with Stephen Weber adds playful drama, while the urn story beautifully reaffirms that no matter how bright the spotlight, we’re all human—sometimes, spectacularly and hilariously so.
Upcoming Highlight:
Katie faces the finals on January 23rd, with stakes (and showdowns) higher than ever.
For game show fans, comedy buffs, or anyone who’s ever gotten stuck—literally or figuratively—this episode is a must-listen.