Pablo Torre Finds Out: "Share & Celine & Tell" with Michael Cruz Kayne and Katie Nolan

Release Date: October 22, 2024
Host: Pablo Torre
Guests: Michael Cruz Kayne, Katie Nolan

Overview

In this lively and irreverent episode, Pablo Torre welcomes comedian Michael Cruz Kayne and media personality Katie Nolan for a classic "Share & Tell" roundtable. The trio dives into ancestry results, pop culture obsessions (like Kelly Clarkson and Celine Dion), Filipino karaoke culture, the nuances of NBA draft drama, and ethical debates around age-gap relationships. The conversation is unscripted, funny, and occasionally profound, weaving together personal stories, viral video commentary, and thoughtful takes on public controversy.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ancestry DNA & Identity (00:28 – 07:00)

• Pablo's 23andMe/Ancestry.com Journey:

  • Pablo reveals new surprises in his Ancestry.com results, which are “constantly updating,” causing confusion about his own identity.
    • "There is a map, and it is informing me that I am now 9% Southern Chinese." – Pablo (02:47)
  • The ever-shifting percentages due to updated genetic databases are both fascinating and unsettling to the group.
  • Katie and Michael joke about how these results can change with new corporate data and the potential implications for privacy.
    • "Last year I was part Portuguese, and now that's just gone." – Pablo (05:15)
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of these services and the fate of 23andMe's data privacy after recent company turmoil.
    • "What happened to 23andMe? It's not going great." – Pablo (05:54)

• Karaoke Connections & Cousins:

  • Pablo mentions being notified of genetic relatives but opts not to connect, likening it to "ethnic Raya."
    • "Kind of like ethnic Raya, except you're not supposed to date each other." – Pablo (06:50)
  • Katie brings up Iceland's anti-incest app, highlighting unique cultural responses to small population challenges.

2. Pop Culture Share: Kelly Clarkson’s Covers & Celine Dion’s Response (08:04 – 16:56)

• Kelly Clarkson: The Ultimate Cover Artist

  • Michael shares his obsession with Kelly Clarkson covering other artists’ songs on her talk show.
    • "If I had a song and Kelly Clarkson covered my song, I would quit making songs." – Michael (08:39)
  • The group discusses the internet’s reaction to Clarkson’s covers, often declaring the songs now belong to her.
  • Katie confesses her unpopular preference for Nine Inch Nails’ "Hurt" over Johnny Cash’s iconic cover.

• Celine Dion’s Endorsement (09:29 – 12:30)

  • Playback: Celine Dion leaves an emotional video message for Clarkson after hearing her cover "My Heart Will Go On."
    • "You were absolutely incredible. Fantastic. I loved it so much. I hope we can see each other in person soon. Very soon. And I hope we're not gonna start crying." – Celine Dion (10:22)
  • The trio marvels at Celine Dion’s otherworldly presence and the toll of her stiff person syndrome, as portrayed in her documentary.
  • "To me, Celine Dion is kind of talent-wise Kelly Clarkson-ish… she is a vessel for song somehow…" – Michael (11:44)

• Karaoke Aspirations and Cultural Phenomena

  • The panel compares their karaoke go-tos and the transcendent, effortless quality of elite singers.
    • "The amount of work my body needs to do to hit one note of karaoke versus her… not breaking a sweat." – Pablo (14:00)
  • Discussion about private vs. public room karaoke, with Michael and Katie sharing their preferences (“private room only!”).

3. Filipino Karaoke Clip: Viral Performance & Cultural Commentary (22:00 – 25:40)

• The Legendary "Listen" Cover
  • Pablo introduces a viral clip: four young Filipino boys covering Beyoncé’s "Listen" on TV.
    • “This show rules.” – Pablo (24:26)
  • Michael calls it the “national anthem of the Philippines,” illustrating Filipino karaoke culture's power and pride.
    • "I think of that song as the national anthem of the Philippines." – Michael (25:31)
  • The group jokingly coins “Clarksoned it” to describe when a cover overtakes the original.

4. NBA Drama: Kyle Filipowski’s Draft Day & Relationship Scandal (26:11 – 44:08)

• Setting the Scene

  • Pablo details the NBA draft drop of Duke’s Kyle Filipowski, surrounded by rumors about his older girlfriend and family disputes.
    • "His brother was a victim, a perfect pawn, a target for his girlfriend’s lifelong scheme..." – Pablo quoting Filipowski's brother (28:59)
  • Rumors of "grooming" and family estrangement, with social media taking sides during the draft.
  • Pablo clarifies relationship context: Filipowski’s girlfriend was a family friend, several years older, and the relationship began soon after high school. The resulting family drama played out very publicly.

• Ethical Debate and Societal Standards

  • Open discussion: How do we judge age-gap relationships and family interference? Is the male “victim” taken as seriously as a female one would be?
  • Michael and Katie reflect on their own family and dating experiences, bringing humor and honesty to a controversial topic.
    • “If my 15-year-old son had a girlfriend in her 20s, I’d be locking up the house.” – Michael (35:10)
  • Comparison to other public age-gap relationships (Belichick’s 23-year-old girlfriend), leading to a suggestion for a "panel of judges" to vet such couples, à la The Voice.
    • "If X is greater than that number, you gotta sit before a panel of people and have a conversation..." – Michael (43:10)

5. Wrap-Up: Lessons & Lingering Questions (45:00 – End)

• Quick Learnings:
  • Katie learns Iceland’s anti-incest app is real, per USA Today. (45:22)
    • "New app helps Icelanders avoid accidental incest." – Pablo (45:36)
  • Michael is amazed that ancestry results can fluctuate (“your race can change!”).
  • Pablo learns about the Dai people, reflecting how each segment tied back to ancestry and identity.
• Tone:
  • Self-aware, cheeky, sometimes heartfelt; the group bounces between deep thoughts and digressions.
    • "We leave that there. Just leave that right there." – Katie (46:27)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Cultural Identity:
  "I haven't replied to any of them... Kind of like ethnic Raya, except you're not supposed to date each other." – Pablo (06:44)

• On Kelly Clarkson’s Covers:
  "If I had a song and Kelly Clarkson covered my song, I would quit making songs." – Michael (08:39) "It's kind of like what Johnny Cash did with Hurt, except she does it with every song." – Michael (09:00)

• On NBA Relationship Drama:
  "[Filipowski's brother said] his brother was a victim, a perfect pawn, a target for his girlfriend’s lifelong scheme..." – Pablo (28:59)

• On Age-Gap Relationships:
  “Once the younger person is 30, then whatever. If you want to date an 80-year-old, good for you. If you're 15, case closed.” – Michael (39:11)

• On Filipino Karaoke: "I get booked on a fair number of literally Filipino comedy shows, and if they have the ability to show video, I always show this." – Michael (24:57) "They Clarksoned it." – Pablo (25:48)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:28 – Ancestry DNA, Pablo’s shifting identity
• 05:54 – 23andMe drama and data privacy discussion
• 08:04 – Share & Tell: Kelly Clarkson and cover culture
• 09:45 – Celine Dion’s emotional message to Kelly Clarkson
• 14:00 – Karaoke prowess, musical deconstruction
• 22:00 – Filipino kids sing Beyoncé, cultural pride and viral covers
• 26:11 – NBA: Kyle Filipowski’s draft, relationship debates, and family scandal
• 39:03 – Age-gap relationships, ethics, and judging love on “The Voice”
• 45:00 – Wrap-up: insights and quick takeaways

Final Thoughts

"Share & Celine & Tell" delivers the trademark PTFO blend of wit, personal insight, and offbeat cultural analysis. The full episode is a journey from genetic confusion to global karaoke stardom, and from pop covers to complex social debates, grounded by the hosts’ candor and humor. For listeners seeking both laughs and substance, with a dash of pop anthropology, this episode is a gem.