Share & Salmon & Tell with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne

Summary

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Episode: "Share & Salmon & Tell"
Date: July 18, 2024
Guests: Katie Nolan, Michael Cruz Kayne
Host: Pablo Torre

---

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Pablo Torre is joined by comedians and commentators Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne for a classic "Share & Tell" roundtable. The group jumps into tangents both silly and serious, moving from the decline of American social clubs (via Robert Putnam’s Bowling Alone) to robot bartenders, viral national anthems, and the bizarre world of salmon sperm facials. With signature banter and irreverence, they dissect loneliness, vanity, technology, and the small, weird ways culture is changing.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Robert Putnam, "Bowling Alone," and the Erosion of American Community

• [03:00-12:00]
  • Pablo introduces Robert Putnam, author of Bowling Alone, and summarizes the book’s thesis: Americans are less socially connected than in the past, as evidenced by the rise in solo activities (e.g., less league bowling, lower club and church participation, etc.).
  • Putnam's follow-up, The Upswing, urges Americans to rejoin clubs and strengthen "bridging social capital”—connections with people unlike oneself.
  • Quote:

    "Sports is kind of the only monoculture we have left." – Pablo ([08:20])

  • Pablo, Katie, and Michael swap club memories from childhood—Little League, Manhattan Kickers soccer, choir, and dance team.
  • The group distinguishes bonding (within similar groups) from bridging (connecting across differences) social capital and laments how modern “clubs” (e.g., fantasy football leagues) often lack true bridging.

2. Modern Loneliness and Missed Connections

• [14:00-21:00]
  • Katie confesses to not being in any active clubs or social organizations, jokes about being exactly the kind of isolated American Putnam fears.
  • Pablo tries to reframe online gaming and private chats as digital clubs, but Katie points out how hostile public online spaces can be, especially for women.
  • Michael describes his son’s soccer team as a rare space for bridging, noting how it brings together parents with diverse backgrounds (including a dad with a "Biden ruins everything" T-shirt).
  • The group riffs on how even improv classes and workgroups tend to be homogenous despite their intentional community focus.

3. Dance Teams, Choirs, and the Lost Purity of Awkward School Groups

• [16:01-18:48]
  • Katie shares about captaining her high school dance team—the first routine she choreographed was to Aaliyah’s "Are You That Somebody?"
  • Michael mentions being in the Trinity Choir of Men and Boys as a kid, briefly singing a choir song on air.
    • Quote:

      “Dog. I was off the chain as a choir boy. I was insane.” – Michael ([09:50])

  • Conversation turns to how beautiful and pure (in their earnestness, if not skill) those school activities were, with Michael reflecting:

    • “There’s like a real purity to... the horribleness of it. That itself is so beautiful.” ([17:42])

4. Clubs in the Age of Robots and the Changing Texture of Human Interaction

• [21:53-30:00]
  • Katie reports on "Adam" the robot bartender at the Texas MLB All-Star Game, leading to a comedic debate about whether robots threaten the rich inefficiencies and subtle interactions (“the texture of being alive”) of human service jobs.
    • Quotes:

      “Adam gave me eyes that I was like, ‘what’s up, dude?’” – Katie ([25:58])
      "Now it’s just like a vending machine." – Michael ([25:55])

  • Katie, a former bartender, details what robots can't replicate: fielding complex group drink orders, messy multitasking, and the kinetic social energy behind a busy bar.
  • The group compares “robotic” efficiency to the “missed connections” and unpredictability that make (or ruin) nights out.

5. Viral Fails & Technological Mishaps: The Ingrid Andress Anthem

• [30:29-36:32]
  • They dissect country singer Ingrid Andress’s disastrous (and viral) national anthem at the All-Star Game. Pablo shares Andress's frank admission on social media:

    • “I was drunk last night. I’m checking myself into a facility today to get the help I need. That was not me last night.” – Ingrid Andress ([31:25])

  • Katie explains a TikTok theory that auto-tune settings, not just intoxication, compounded the vocal disaster—a "robotic" error at the worst possible moment.

    • “It does not entirely explain why it was bad, but ... the [auto-tune] computer [was] trying to bend her voice to reach a note. ... It’s not entirely on her.” – Katie ([35:39])

  • The segment becomes a meditation on public failure, empathy, and social media pile-ons.

6. Vanity, Salmon Sperm Facials, and What We’d Do to Look Good

• [36:55-45:45]
  • Michael introduces the Vogue/Kim Kardashian trend of salmon sperm injections for anti-aging ("Rejuran" facials)—tracing it back to Jennifer Aniston and discussing Hollywood’s endless quest for new beauty treatments.

    • “She got a facial ... of salmon sperm into her face as a treatment.” – Michael ([37:12])

  • There’s collective comedic horror and curiosity about the price, process, and—crucially—how one extracts salmon sperm.
  • Pablo reads from Vogue:

    • “The injection includes polynucleotides derived from milt ... which is fish semen.” ([38:50])

  • The group detours into their own willingness to undergo bizarre health and beauty procedures, swapping eczema treatments and stories of dermatological desperation.
• Quote:

  “It’s not like every month I have to go, you know, I gotta get a money shot from a salmon.” – Katie ([41:59])

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Club Bridging via Kids' Sports:

  “...a lot of us ... have the same politics, and then there’s ... one guy who wears a shirt that says, ‘everything Joe Biden touches turns to—’. I get along very well with him.” – Michael ([13:14])

• On the Sadness of Modern Isolation:

  “I am the isolated American you are who Robert Putnam fears.” – Katie ([14:56])

• On Robot Bartenders & Human Texture:

  “It removes an inefficiency. ... All those inefficiencies are, like, part of what it is to be alive.” – Michael ([25:25])

• On Viral Public Failure (Ingrid Andress):

  “This being her debut on a bigger stage... I always feel bad. ... It’s tough.” – Katie ([32:19])

• On Bizarre Beauty Procedures:

  “Once you hear about [salmon sperm facial], how do you turn it down?” – Katie ([37:29]) “Light it up!” – Michael, on willingness to do almost anything for vanity ([41:20])

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Summary | |------------|---------------| | 03:00–12:00 | Bowling Alone, bonding vs. bridging, club memories | | 14:00–21:00 | Modern isolation, kids' sports as social glue, online connections | | 16:01–18:48 | Dance team & choir nostalgia| | 21:53–30:00 | Robot bartenders, inefficiency, & human texture | | 30:29–36:32 | Viral national anthem auto-tune fail | | 36:55–45:45 | Salmon sperm facials, health/beauty trends, medical confessions | | 47:12–49:50 | What did we find out? Reflective wrap-up |

---

Final Takeaways & Reflections

• Social Connection: Despite much laughter, the group openly grapples with how rare genuine bridging in social capital has become, and the real difficulty modern adults face in making meaningful, diverse connections.
• The Loss of Human Messiness: Technological “progress” in service jobs (robot bartenders, auto-tuned performances) can erase the messy, awkward, but human moments that create stories and social bonds.
• Vanity Knows No Bounds: The salmon sperm facial is lampooned, but the discussion circles back to the lengths people will go for beauty and belonging, and how trends can quickly migrate from obscurity to celebrity to mainstream.
• Empathy in Public Scrutiny: The viral anthem fail, and Andress’ immediate public remorse, prompt conversation about the pressures of public performance and how quickly the internet moves from mockery to humanization.
• Everyone’s a Little Alone: None of the hosts claim to have cracked the code on adult “clubbing,” and everyone (especially Katie) wryly acknowledges some level of modern, digital isolation.

---

Signature Moment:

“It’s not like every month I have to go, you know, I gotta get a money shot from a salmon.”
— Katie Nolan ([41:59])

---

Tone:
Loose, witty, self-deprecating, a blend of earnest inquiry and comic digression that characterizes both the hosts and the “Share & Tell” format.

---

For those who missed it:
This episode is a perfect blend of playful banter and genuine reflection on the changing social fabric of America—plus a healthy dose of absurdist beauty news. Whether you’re longing for a club to join, suspicious of robots, or merely curious about which celebrities are injecting fish sperm, you’ll find it all here… and remember, it’s probably time to text an old friend.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out I am Pablo Torre. And today we're gonna find out what this sound is.

[B]

It's not like every month I have to go, you know, I gotta get a money shot from a salmon right after this ad. You're listening to Giraffe Kings.

[A]

I want to establish how. How it is outside because I've been in here where it is minus 20 degrees. I'm wearing this very thick sweater that you always wear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this room is. Is 90% freon and 10% oxygen.

[B]

That's a thick shirt for the day.

[A]

No, that's, that's okay.

[C]

So you're just, you're roasting people.

[B]

No, I just like, he was just saying how hot it is. And I'm like, that's a.

[C]

Like a towel, but I think it's absorbent.

[A]

That's what I was gonna say.

[B]

Hang on a second. But I'm with you now. I see the vision.

[C]

Yeah, it was hot outside. And then the worst part of it, I think is the hope that you have when you walk into the lobby and you're like, oh, well, when I get through this door, it's gonna be. Yeah, there's gonna feel like a little frosty.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then you get inside and it's the Philippines in there.

[A]

It's what I think of the Philippines as well, because when I would visit the Philippines as a kid, I would leave a car wearing my glasses and that would fog up immediately like a cartoon.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so too did my sunglasses today.

[B]

It's hot.

[A]

It's a hot one.

[B]

It's a man. It's a hot one.

[A]

But your shirt is perfectly suited because I feel like there is an absorbent quality that I. I will not have when I leave this place.

[B]

My. My thesis for the day was as little as possible. It was just as lit. But this I get, I do get.

[C]

Thank you. I'm glad you turned it around.

[B]

I'm not sure isn't going to absorb well because I first looked at it, if I may, and I was just like, it's thick.

[C]

It didn't even wait for a response.

[B]

If I need to make eye contact to see if I got the okay.

[C]

Fully objectified.

[B]

It's like when your parents knock on your door and then just open it. You're like, well, that was not. Yeah, I live with my parents. Are we gonna do a podcast?

[A]

I think we are cool already.

[B]

Oh, what fun.

[A]

Surprise.

[B]

Fun.

[A]

Everyone's gonna know your parents walked in on you masturbate.

[C]

Why was it that? Maybe it wasn't that maybe she was reading a book.

[A]

What was it, Katie? What was it if not that I.

[B]

Was reading a book.

[C]

A book that she didn't want her parents to.

[B]

Oh, no, no porn book.

[A]

I wanted to tell you guys about a person who sort of saw where all of this was headed and all of this being American civilization. So there was a guy named Robert Putnam. And Robert Putnam, in 2000, published a groundbreaking book. Groundbreaking is the word the New York Times used to describe this book. The title of the book is Bowling Alone. The Collapse and Revival of American Community. And this dude, Robert Putnam basically predicted everything that was going to happen when it comes to how America has become not just lonelier, but also disconnected. And the way that he saw it happen was at bowling alleys. He detected that since 1980, league bowling had dropped 40%, meaning that people were now literally bowling by themselves as opposed to in groups. And so too, when he did the research and he did sociological study where people going to church less joining clubs, less losing trust in Americans, our fellow Americans and our institutions. And so Bill Clinton invite him to the White House to talk. And he was this guy who said in 2000, we have a problem. And so Robert Putnam now is back to say I was right and the problem is even worse. And so he's been compared to. And I think Katie Nolan will appreciate this as somebody who's been reading the Bible. Are you done with the Bible?

[C]

No, it's long.

[B]

Yeah, I took a. I took an extended break.

[A]

Are you done with the Bible?

[B]

Bored, Pablo? I'll be back.

[A]

When'd you lose? What, What's.

[B]

Where'd you leave the book? I just. I got. I. It's just a lot. I think I was just a quick aside. Yeah, I think I was focused too much on taking notes while also reading the Bible. And it felt too much like homework when the whole point was I was just going to read it as if it were a novel. And so I. I have to just, like, divorce myself from the scholarly aspect and just. And just read it.

[C]

That's got to be tough for the authors of the Bible to hear too, because I know when they were writing, they were like, at base, it's got to be fun.

[B]

We got to keep them entertained. It's a tough summer. Read the Bible.

[A]

But you, You. You signed yourself up for a Bible study. I did and then dropped out of it.

[C]

Absolutely crushing for Samuel.

[B]

Right. I also was calling it 1 Samuel the whole time until somebody who knows the Bible was like, you mean First.

[A]

Samuel, two Samuel, Too furious.

[C]

Wait Till you get there. Those donkeys go so fast.

[B]

Anywho.

[A]

So people going to church less made Robert Putnam feel like he was an Old Testament prophet, but with charts. This was his thing. He prophesied all of this. And he's back. He's back with a new book called the Upswing. And he's like, hey, guys, let's join clubs. Can we all join clubs again? And so I just want to get into this conversation before I get into even more of his data and research by pointing out that it is something that I associate with my childhood, like club joining. I wonder what clubs you guys were a part of when you were growing up. Or were you always lone? Were you always lone wolves to be. To be watched?

[B]

I mean, Little League. Is that a club?

[C]

I think that's absolutely a club.

[B]

Yeah. Little League. That comes to mind.

[C]

How you get it. Were you good at Little Leagueging?

[B]

Of course I was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't back check.

[C]

The level of confidence has made me uncomfortable.

[A]

Compare yourself to a player. What. What player were you? Who were you most like? Would you say, what? What? What? What was your scouting report?

[B]

I was good. I was fast. I was strong. I wasn't strong. I was good. I was a leadoff hitter.

[C]

Not a great scouting report. Like, if the scout came with that, you'd be like, let's go back and let's get a couple more details.

[B]

You could argue the best scouting report.

[C]

Okay, maybe.

[B]

Good. Great.

[A]

Fast Ricky Henderson.

[B]

What else do you need to know? I got on base. Okay? I got on base one way or another in that tiny Little League. Did everybody's call. There's the Little Big League. Or is that just ours?

[A]

I wasn't. I didn't do Little League.

[B]

What did you do?

[A]

I did a thing called Manhattan Kickers.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I always forget a youth soccer team.

[B]

In Manhattan, which is just a wild experience. We were in Zog sports at 2 years old.

[A]

Yeah, we were. I was in an urban professionals league at age six with investment bankers. We played in the shadow of Con Ed. The power plant.

[C]

Oh, beautiful.

[A]

Which explains my own personal mutations.

[B]

Poetic.

[A]

I only saw the club that was Little League in movies and television. I was mostly a shitty soccer player. I'll use scare quotes there.

[C]

But I think Little League is, like, very much a club. And it's even more a club, I would imagine, for your parents who, like, now have to fraternize with a bunch.

[B]

Of parents at some point. Was the commissioner of our Little League.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

Bud Selig of Framingham.

[B]

Framing whom.

[A]

Framingham.

[B]

Framingham. Say ham. We call it the ham.

[C]

Like my. My son plays soccer. And so now we are in, like, you know, I know a bunch of parents that I wouldn't know were it not for soccer. And so we do not bowl alone. As it were.

[B]

Ah. You bowl in a big group.

[C]

In a big group of people. I don't actually bowl.

[B]

Yeah. See, that's the thing that. The flaw in the study to me is the league enrollment might be down because people aren't bowling. I don't know that it's.

[A]

That they're both a confounding variable.

[B]

Means they must be bowling alone. No. Or they're not bowling.

[A]

I try to justify why I'm in sports in a way that makes it feel profound. But I think it's actually real what I say. Which is that sports is kind of the only monoculture we have left.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's kind of the only place where next to you at a soccer game for your kids or a little League thing or any game you might attend. The person next to you might not vote the same way. Might not listen to the same music, might not watch the same TV shows, may have zero else in common with you except for the fact that you're here to do this thing. And so Robert Putnam has a phrase for this. Bonding social capital and bridging social capital. Bonding social capital is people who already are like each other. Connecting this. Us here. We three.

[B]

Three kings.

[A]

Virtually identical.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In all these ways.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Frankincense.

[B]

Yeah. Myrrh.

[C]

Golden.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Wasn't there.

[A]

I wanted.

[B]

I really wanted to be Mer.

[C]

You double jumped up for Mer.

[B]

Because what is myrrh? It sounds like they. They died before they finished the season.

[C]

Before they finished the word. It's got to be like an herb or something.

[A]

I'll tell you what. What's even trying to Google what myrrh is?

[B]

I think it's.

[A]

Without knowing how to spell it.

[B]

H R. I'd put it in M.

[A]

Y R, R. H, W. One of my. You should have been mer.

[B]

That's wild.

[C]

One of my clubs as a child was the Trinity Choir of men and boys.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

So I spent a lot of time listening to people read the Bible.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

How were you as a choir boy?

[C]

Dog. I was off the chain. As a choir boy. I was insane. I was. Yeah. Scouting.

[A]

Can we get a sample?

[C]

Good and fast.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

A sample of singing young Michael Cruz. Kane. Choir boy.

[C]

What's that?

[B]

He could have been one of the men. He might not have been the boys.

[C]

I was. But I was indeed I was indeed one of the.

[A]

One of the big three.

[C]

You want me to sing some. A choir song?

[B]

Just like. Just a stanza. Just a mer.

[A]

Yeah, with mer.

[C]

What's a mer. Like song. The holly and the ivy, when they are both full grown. Of all the. Oh, leaves that are in the crown, the holly bears the throne. That's not right.

[B]

But it. But it. Spiritually, it was.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely. We got to get the vibes.

[B]

The gist is all that matters. Who knows the words to all the church songs?

[C]

To all the songs.

[B]

My goodness.

[A]

A fragrant gum resin.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Obtained from certain trees and used especially in the near east in perfumery, medicines and incense.

[B]

That's right. Anyhow, well, incense is part of you. You're frankincense. So now myrrh is just more incense.

[A]

It's the doctor and golden doctor who created frankincense.

[C]

The guy who. Very nice. Of course, I was gonna say the guy who brought gold had to be like, are you guys kidding me? Are you serious with this? I thought I should have brought grass, I guess.

[B]

Was there a limit? Was there a dollar limit?

[A]

I didn't know about bridging.

[C]

Trying to talk about bridging.

[A]

Bridging social capital. So the idea here is that bonding is among like minded already previously demographically similar people. Bridging social capital is when you, I guess, reach across the aisle, so to speak, and are in some club, team, organizational context with someone that you otherwise would not be. And so certainly sports feels like a foremost place to do it. But I think about all of the ways in which. Yeah, again, like, the Internet promised to connect us, and instead, of course, we are less. Less bridged to each other than ever. And so, yeah, Robert Putnam is like, we need to join clubs again. We need people to do stuff together again. And I'm trying to figure out, like, what the closest thing that is for me. And I think it's my fantasy football league.

[B]

That feels like. Not bridging. That feels like bonding.

[C]

You might be bonding, bro. Who we. Who are we bridging to in the fantasy football league?

[A]

Touche.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Friends from high school that I've known for 20 years. But who are people in my all boys Catholic high school context who are not at all politically on the same page as me. And so we sort of bridged early and we've stayed in there.

[B]

No, I think this bonding.

[A]

Sorry, I'm trying to save America now.

[B]

You're not doing a good job.

[C]

I think maybe 2080, some. Some bridging.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Lot of bonding.

[B]

You don't talk to these people outside of that league. You wouldn't be talking to them if it weren't for this league.

[A]

It's our main way of staying in touch.

[B]

Feels like a hedge. This is bonding, not bridging.

[A]

Why am I on, on, on, on bridging social capital Shark Tank right now?

[B]

I don't know. But for those reasons, I'm out.

[A]

Do you guys have anything that feels like I am in a club? I am fulfilling the dream of a sociologist who said, you guys gotta get better at bridging social capital?

[C]

I think for me, it is. I've already said it, but it is my son's soccer team, where, like, a lot of us out. A lot of us are. Have the same politics. And then there's, like, some people who, like, secretly, you can feel that they're not quite loud and proud about their conservatism. And then one guy who wears a shirt that says like to the games, that says, like, everything Joe Biden touches turns to.

[B]

And you're like, is it one of those T shirts? There's like nine different fonts.

[C]

Every font to, like, slow down, to.

[B]

Read like that is too small and then way too big.

[C]

Yeah, it's like at the font store, they give out free samples, and it's only enough to make.

[B]

You gotta use them all.

[C]

Yeah, but that's. That's the closest thing we have to that social experiment. And I will say I get along very well with this person who, if I only saw him wearing this T shirt on the street, I would think, let me do everything I can to have no contact with this man.

[B]

And so that's where I'm at. That's where I'm not in a. I'm not in a social group at all.

[A]

But don't you. All the time.

[B]

I don't leave my. I really. Pablo, this is sad.

[A]

Put you on a watch list.

[B]

First off, this is a sad topic for me because I didn't even have to scan my brain when you started. I just immediately was like, no, I'm not in any group.

[A]

But aren't you perpetually actually playing video games?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With strangers?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't talk to the strangers. I'm in this private chat.

[A]

Bonding, social bonding, social capital.

[B]

And then. And then I don't. As a woman, it's hard to be in that public chat, because as soon as they hear you are a woman, it sort of becomes the focus.

[A]

Yeah. The. The burn, the bridge.

[B]

For better or for worse. And both are for worse. If you get what I'm saying, so I appreciate you trying there to make me feel like I have. Like I am socially participating. But no, I. I am the isolated.

[A]

American you are who Robert Putnam fears.

[B]

He's worried about me.

[C]

He's mailing you bowling ball.

[B]

He should be.

[A]

And this is. This is a quote from him. He got interviewed by the New York Times. He said, doing democracy doesn't just mean. Of course, it means voting or means organizing, but it doesn't just mean, you know, explicitly going out to save democracy. It means just creating connections to people such that we trust each other more. And we don't just trust each other, but we engender this notion of trustworthiness. Right. And he says it's not about pure blind trust. It's just, can we all feel like we're doing stuff together anymore? And so I guess I'm wondering because the history of. Of social capital in America is kind of like an upside down U. So 1965 was the peak of it. Apparently. It was the most connected. He connects this to the civil rights movement and all that stuff, but before and after. And we're now in the after part. It's like, oh, we're really. We're. We're solo bowling. And so what I am. Look, thinking back on is just like in school. Katie Nolan, were you a part of any clubs?

[B]

I was on dance team. That's a club? Yeah, it's captain the dance team.

[A]

Oh, watch out. Captain the dance finally backed into.

[C]

Remember when I had to do the singing of the song?

[B]

Yeah, I do. Well, and I was like, wow, that would be embarrassing.

[A]

A little sample.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[C]

What's a. What's a big hit for dance team?

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

I mean, like, what's a song where it's like, all this is good, but when we get out there and do this song.

[B]

So my. The first thing I ever choreographed for our dance team was to the Aaliyah song. The. Like the Aaliyah song.

[A]

Googling the Aaliyah song.

[B]

Tell me that. Tell me you're that.

[A]

Are you that somebody?

[B]

That somebody. Are you.

[A]

That's somebody.

[B]

That was the.

[C]

That was the jam sounded just like that.

[B]

So if you must know, that was a real hit.

[C]

Were all the things on the dance team choreographed by members of the dance team?

[B]

I think so. I don't really remember.

[C]

Oh, God, that's awesome.

[B]

I thought you're gonna say awful.

[C]

No. That's incredible.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's probably. It's his high school.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's probably like Girls who, like, don't know, like, all that much about dance.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

So it's like we had tryouts.

[A]

It wasn't just, like, the fight of the Framingham.

[B]

That's right. High school.

[A]

High school dance team.

[C]

Was there. Was there, like. Do you have a name or just the dance.

[B]

No, we're just the dance team. There was, like, other clubs that did, like, more specific. There was obviously cheerleaders. Right. Which we were seen as knockoff cheerleaders because we didn't do stunts. We just moved. We just let the rhythm move us, you know?

[C]

Sure, sure.

[B]

And. And we also did. At football games, the cheerleaders would do all the time. But then we would do halftime. We'd come out and do a kick line.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

To the band.

[A]

That's the America that we've lost.

[C]

Yeah. Like. But I think there's, like, a real purity to, like, when I go see my daughter and. And stuff, like, at her school, there's like, something about the horribleness of it. That itself. So beautiful.

[B]

We were so good.

[C]

Were you really good?

[A]

But that's what I mean, that's so great about it.

[C]

Now, me thinks the unchecked confidence of like, or test too much when, like, a professional choreographer comes in is like, oh, you know, you has you. You need to get better at this, that and the other thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It changes who you are forever.

[B]

Totally.

[C]

But if no one has ever told you that you might not be good at this one thing. There's a purity to that, even if. Especially actually if it's horrendous.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That is so beautiful.

[B]

It's true. Because when you. It's like when you go to college and realize you're not as good at the thing that you did in high school as you thought you were. Like, you know, when a. When an athlete finds out, they're like, o, I was good at my school, I'm not good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was kind of the realization with the dance team.

[C]

Meaning that. Did you try to be on the dance team in college? Okay.

[B]

No. Dance team in college was just. It didn't. It didn't appeal to me.

[A]

You started to dance alone?

[B]

Yeah, I was bowling by myself, which I've. Has anyone ever bowled alone?

[A]

It's a sad sight that I've never personally witnessed.

[B]

Me either. I've never seen anybody out there in the alleys.

[C]

It feels like something that, like social sport. Men of yesteryear. I'm talking, like, 1800s would have advocated doing. Was there even bowling?

[A]

The 1800s, the earliest known forms of bowling date back to ancient Egypt.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Wow. So King was probably out there bowling, Bowling up a storm all by himself, alone, buried with his pins. I don't know.

[B]

So. So, Pablo, what are you suggesting? That we all join a club? What?

[A]

I think we gotta join some clubs, guys.

[B]

What clubs are there to join? I feel like work. What? Does he ever mention workplaces? Because I do feel like those are places where you're forced to interact with people that maybe you don't align with politically.

[A]

Well, what he says fundamentally is that it's really three things that are responsible for the. For the disconnection and for the lack of bridging social capital. One is political polarization. So thank you, Michael Cruz Kane, for befriending that dude with the. The Zap Dingbats. Biden shirt.

[C]

Wingdings.

[A]

Wingdings. Inequality, which is of course a broad problem that has come back around since the Gilded Age. The beginning of that U shaped curve. Upside down. U shaped curve. And then he calls it culture, which I think is what we're really talking about here, which is a cop out, but also the extent to which we think we're all in this together.

[C]

I took like, improv classes.

[B]

That's a yes. That counts. Yeah. Why would.

[A]

Why did you wait until now to.

[C]

Reveal that you are in so mad at me?

[B]

How dare you.

[C]

I took improv classes in that. But I will say that it's certainly a bond. I think it's, you know, what this guy's hoping for, but it's not a lot of bridging in the improv. Like pretty much everyone has the almost exact same policy.

[B]

Well, that's because one person says their politics and then the next person yet says yes.

[C]

And incredible.

[B]

What clubs are there for me? The lonely lady who lives at home. Do subreddits not count?

[C]

I feel like Lonely Ladies Club is probably a club. That sounds like a club.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

He mentions women's reading groups, so maybe.

[B]

Reading'S not a group activity.

[A]

Well, maybe that explains why you stopped reading the Bible before the second Samuel.

[B]

Now, why are we bringing up old? In fact, the oldest.

[C]

Tell that to King Tut. He was bold.

[A]

A non judgmental, short attention span. Lonely women's reading group where we only.

[B]

Barely talk about the book.

[A]

We can put that on a sign.

[B]

I love that. I love that. That's what I need. What groups are you gonna join?

[A]

No, I'm. I'm groupless.

[B]

Groupless and just fine with it. Brought this to us. Evangelizing, giving us the good word.

[C]

Proselytizing, bowling yes.

[B]

And then just a lone wolf.

[A]

Katie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What did you bring today?

[B]

Okay. A sign of the end. They are using.

[A]

You brought the Book of Revelations.

[B]

I almost always do bring a sign of the end. Anytime Pablo sends out the doc where he's like, what do you want to talk about? I always highlight the one that's like, is the world over. You know, the All Star Game is this week. It will have happened when this airs, but it has not happened yet.

[A]

In case something crazy happens involving and.

[C]

We don't talk about it.

[A]

We didn't miss the callback. No, hadn't happened yet.

[B]

Hadn't happened. Also, we've recorded a number of wild lines to. To edit in about what did happen, and you'll hear those throughout the pod. But the. At the All Star Game this week, which is in Texas, in Arlington, they have robot bartenders serving the patrons. Adam not only makes drinks, he also dances, too. I mean, there are so many functions that Adam can do.

[A]

Yes, ma'. Am.

[B]

We.

[A]

We can get him to dance.

[C]

We got to do it manually.

[A]

He'll say hi to you when you walk by.

[B]

He's. He's an interactive robot.

[C]

I mean, he's doing.

[A]

I think he's doing the YMCA right now.

[C]

So.

[A]

Yeah, you never know what he's gonna do.

[C]

For a second, I thought, because the two are in the foreground, I thought that guy was the robot. Just for a second.

[A]

Like a Westworld scenario. He didn't dis an al. Westworld.

[C]

I love Westworld. By the way, season one was like, so good. Jeffrey Wright get.

[A]

Oh, I was so in on seasons one and two.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then in season three, at one point, I've noticed a sign in the background that was like, we are people, not code. And I was like, oh, the prop. People are just not even trying anymore.

[B]

Adam the robot here, he is one of the Rangers newest additions to Globe Life Field. He is a bartender. You walk up to him, he says, hey, how's it going? What can I get you to drink? He puts the ice in the cup, he puts the tequila in the cup, and he just really gets the party started.

[A]

People enjoy it.

[C]

You know, some people may be a.

[A]

Little nervous of it from the AI's perspective, but. But I think they. I don't think there's anything to be worried about.

[B]

We were told they're coming for our jobs.

[A]

Do you feel threatened?

[B]

No.

[A]

Now, as a.

[B]

As a former bartender, based on that clip, no. Because I didn't see a single drink produced by the Drink Making Robot. A lot of ice going in there to that drink. And then the dancing. He didn't even get up on the bar.

[A]

What would be hardest to replicate, given your experience personally as a bartender for that robot, Adam, the robot to. To try.

[B]

And I've yet to see somebody say.

[C]

If it stands for something automated drinks are made.

[B]

Just nailed it to the point. What would be the hardest to replicate? I think getting a. Like getting string ordered by a bunch of people. So, like, if you're very busy and I know he's at a ballpark, so it's like not really a bar.

[C]

Sit ordered. What's that mean?

[B]

If a person comes up to you, right? It's like you and your six friends and you've been appointed the point person, and you're like, can I get a vodka soda? What do you want? And they turn and you're. It's busy, and you're just standing there, like, waiting for the next drink. So you have to go make the vodka soda while trying to hear what the next drinks are. And then they give you one drink at a time. A robot's not going to be able to handle that. It's a tough gig.

[C]

Oh, see, to me.

[B]

For people.

[C]

To me, I would think. And I might be wrong, I would think the robot would be most able to handle that, like, to me, because a robot can just be like, boop. And then the drink is there.

[B]

They have to manually make them dance. I think in terms of ordering a drink, unless it's happening on an iPad, it's probably happening on an iPad.

[A]

I don't know. I don't. I didn't see an iPad in that.

[C]

A thing that I think about this, it relates to bowling alone, actually. So now look, we did.

[B]

And this happens every time.

[C]

Does it?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

It's amazing is that it removes an inefficiency. That's like one of the cool things, like going to the bar and you have to wait and, like, the pretty girl gets her drink before you. And the, you know, the guy who looks like he's in finance gets his drinks before you. All those inefficiencies are, like, part of what it is to be alive.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

It's cool that the bar that you asked for this and you got this other thing because that's your whole night. Your whole night is. Oh, my God, Jeff.

[A]

I think this bartender is into me.

[C]

Yeah, that's it. But now it's just like a vending machine.

[B]

Adam gave me eyes that I was like, what's up, dude?

[C]

Guys, I'm dating. I left my wife and family. For Adam, the bartender robots are objectively.

[B]

Hotter behind a bar. It's. There's just. I don't know what.

[C]

Something happens.

[B]

Much more attractive, and I'm into them.

[C]

But that exact thing. You'll miss that.

[B]

You'll miss the, like, bumping into each other. It's the, like, something to talk about. It's the. And at a ballpark. First of all, who's drinking booze at a ball.

[A]

I know. 23.99 for. For a drink from Adam.

[B]

What is that?

[C]

Is that true?

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

There's an up charge on it.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

My article. I clearly didn't read it. Tell me more.

[A]

It is. It's just what it costs. I'm not going to blame Adam for the pricing.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, booze at a ballpark, probably expensive. I don't know that I've ever had, like, a hard cocktail at a ballpark, but I would imagine 24 bucks is probably around what they charge. The reason the ballparks and the. And the suits are going to love it is because they're never going to overpour. I've seen this in bars in, like, Vegas, and when they do it in. In. I think it was in Vegas, they keep the bottles on the. On the ceiling. So it's kind of cool. You see the, like, robot go over and, like, take the bottle and pour it out. This Adam's setup is not conducive to moving quickly. And, like, it's not. They didn't make it look cool. It's literally just like we put a robot back there.

[A]

There's an erector set aspect. A very 1.0 sort of vibe to Adam.

[B]

Yeah, he's a. He's beta.

[A]

He's alpha. But you, Katie, I imagine you as an alpha bartender, I don't know what you were like as a bartender. Never ordered a drink from you. But I'm curious.

[B]

What was your scouting report as a bartender friend stressed. Depends on where I was working. If we go with the White Horse Tavern in Allston, Rest in peace. It's done now. That was like a volume college bar. It was between, like, bu bc Sometimes we got Harvard kids, but I don't know what they were doing there. And it was like, a lot of people. So like a Friday or Saturday night, it's like three or four people deep at the bar. So you are constantly taking orders and moving. And then a service bar, which is the hardest part of bartending, when you have to serve the people that are at the bar, but also hear, like, and that means the ticket is printing. And that means that a waitress needs three.

[A]

Oh, now it's the bear martinis.

[B]

And you're like, I have to make three martinis while I'm and. And nobody your bar. I'm like, immediately back in the stress as I'm sweating. It's been so long. They think you're just not taking their order. Cuz they've seen you not take anybody's order. But you're like, I have to make. I have to smash. I have to make mojitos.

[C]

Got a muddle some.

[B]

Oh, my God. The worst.

[A]

What was the worst drink for somebody to order that mino okay at it.

[B]

When it's busy and somebody's like, can I get three whiskey smashes? I was like, no, you can't get out. When people would order a lemon drop, you know, there's like all different ways to do this shot, but basically most of them, you'll like, sugar the r. You make the lemon drop shot itself, and then you give them a lemon. Sometimes you'll sugar the lemon. Sometimes I would give them the shot, a plate of lemons and a pile of sugar packets. It was like, do it yourself because it's just too busy. And so when people would order stuff or anything that required you to use like a spoon to pour it over to layer the. Those were difficult.

[C]

I bartended. I mean, so, so briefly. I don't drink. And I was extremely, very terrified to do it. And I was in a restaurant that no longer exists called Pietra Santa in Hell's Kitchen. And the first waiter comes over and says, I need two rum and Cokes. And what I swear to God I said back to him was, what is in that?

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

But I was also a terrible waiter. I was a very bad waiter. And when the restaurant became overrun, instead of, like, rising to meet the challenge, I would often just kind of be like, well, it's over. This is over.

[A]

So far, what I'm getting is that Adam the robot has a lot of. A lot of advantages if he can do this job right. Because you guys sound like you were both not that great at your job.

[B]

I was great at my job.

[C]

Yeah, sounds like you were great. Just stressed out.

[B]

I was stressed out. No, I was fine. I wasn't the best. But what I. What I lacked in skill, I made up for in personality. The face he immediately made, didn't love.

[C]

He went, okay, he made a strong doubt at face.

[B]

But can I also, while we're here, bring up another robot All Star Week related story, please so did you see. Did you see the national anthem?

[C]

Oh, I sure did. Now to perform the national anthem, please.

[A]

Welcome four time Grammy nominated country singer songwriter, Ingrid Andress. So I'm just going to jump in here to notify you of a development on this story that we did not get to cover when we taped this episode, which is that Ingrid Andress later posted an explanation for why her version of the national anthem wound up sounding like this.

[B]

Here we go. Buckle up. I mean, that our flag was still there.

[A]

Quote, I'm not gonna bull, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I was drunk last night. I'm checking myself into a facility today to get the help I need. That was not me last night. I apologize to mlb, all the fans, and this country I love so much for that rendition. I'll let y' all know how rehab is. I hear it's super fun, period. Xo comma Ingrid.

[B]

First thought.

[A]

First thought is, I love this country. God bless this nation.

[B]

Second thought was like, I hope she's off socials. I just. I immediately was like, no, you poor thing. This isn't. Because if you've never. If you've never heard of her before, which most people, I think that aren't country fans, like, it was an introduction.

[A]

To a broader audience.

[B]

This being her, like, debut on, like, this bigger state. It's tough. It's tough to not. I saw a couple people fighting for her life in the comments, being like, she is very good. This is not like her. But there weren't that many because not that many people knew who she was. And I just feel fear that her name will be associated with this. I always feel bad. This is, like, not the same, but similar to, like, college kicker, misses Big Kick, and you're like, I hate this feeling. People are going to be very mean at the same time. Like, you. You were supposed to do something and you didn't really do it. So I was confused by this girl because it sounded like she maybe is a singer that doesn't belt. And she was belting here. I was very confused. And then I saw a tik tok today. I do. Did either of you. Were either of you go through an emo phase in your life?

[A]

This. This podcast that we're recording feels fairly emo, but.

[B]

So this is bonding, social. No, this is bridging.

[C]

I like, wrote sad poems. Is that emo?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But I think I did like taking back Sunday.

[C]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you have the same reaction to this as Katie?

[C]

I immediately have. I have nothing to do.

[B]

I'm not at the reason why I brought up emo yet. That has nothing to do with it.

[C]

But it does bring up for me the tremendous anxiety by association where like the second it starts when someone starts giving a wedding toast. Father of the bride.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And the toast is like. You can feel that first step where it's like, oh, I leave.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, I can't be in here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I have my wife text me when it's over. It's like, I can't. I don't have. I can't feel all these emotions for this person. I'll die from it. I get that immediately when this starts to happen.

[B]

Yeah, that's the same. But anyway, the reason I brought up taking Back Sunday is because Fred Mascherino, I think it is Masharino, I don't know.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

He put out a TikTok explaining that she was auto tuned.

[A]

She was being auto tuned at this show. It was acapella. That's dangerous enough because if you don't have a reference note in your ear, you could get off. You know, between the echo of the crowd and just your own voice echoing throughout the stadium. You know, if you were to get lost and there's no reference note, you could find yourself in a lot of trouble trying to find your way back to the key that this auto tune is stuck in.

[B]

So the problem with the anthem is that it does not. Once you do it in like, let's say you. I don't know. They picked a key and it can only do the seven notes of that key. So when she would hit a note that she was trying to hit, it was nudging her to like a completely different note because they were trying to get her into the key that they set the autotune for. So it does not entirely explain why it was bad, but it does. It is not entirely on her. The music director or whoever was in charge of manning the autotune really screwed her. And I don't know if it's cuz like in rehearsals she wasn't hitting the notes and so she wanted the extra boost. I don't know why it went as badly as it went, but it at least explained for me the, like the.

[A]

Part where it sounds like that sound effect.

[B]

The part where it sounds like she's like, like trying to get the way that people were. And. And I think they were not wrong comparing it to like a cat scream. Like it did sound struggly. And I think it's because it was the. What you're hearing is the computer trying to bend her Voice to reach a note.

[C]

That never even. That explanation never even occurred to me neither. He is saying that he knows that she was auto tuned.

[B]

He doesn't say he got it from a source journalistically, but he speaks about it as if it's definitely what happened. Which leads me to think. I mean, this guy's been in music for a really long time. I think he is probably right.

[C]

Got it, got it, got it. Okay. Exonerated.

[B]

It was bad, but why was it so bad?

[A]

Robots.

[B]

I think it's robots. And that's. And. And they're making our drinks and they're taking our jobs and they're screwing up our national song.

[A]

Are you. Are you soft? Launching a Trump impression.

[B]

Many people.

[A]

Michael.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

What'd you bring?

[C]

Kim Kardashian. I read an article in Vogue. I'm always reading Vogue. I love it. Kim Kardashian says that she got a facial. I wish I hadn't said that way now, but you. This. This. She got an injection. This is maybe better or worse of salmon sperm into her face as a treatment.

[B]

It does track.

[C]

It was recommended to her by. By Jennifer Aniston. Or maybe she saw Jennifer Aniston talk about it at some point when once she heard about it, she immediately said, how do I get the salmon sperm?

[B]

I mean, once you hear about it, how do you turn it down?

[C]

How can you not. And since then, she has had a. An injection of salmon sperm into her face.

[B]

One single singular injection.

[C]

I don't. I don't know how many, but I know she's at least one.

[A]

Jennifer Aniston told the Wall Street Journal Magazine in 2023, relaying a conversation she had with an anesthetician.

[B]

Wait, an esthetician?

[C]

I think that it has to be an esthetician.

[B]

There's no chance it was an esthetician, but that's all right.

[C]

We're gonna be in a lot of pain. Here's what's gonna help. We're gonna inject a bunch of salmon sperm into you.

[B]

Listen, we don't know what it is. It makes you numb, so just go with it.

[A]

Yeah, she got. She got the salmon sperm.

[B]

Okay. In 2023.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Kim Kardashian read about that.

[C]

Read about it or heard about it and said, gotta do it.

[B]

Well, because Kim Kardashian's always reading the Wall Street Journal magazine.

[C]

She's on that. And she's on the cutting edge of whatever. All of it's on the cutting edge of everything.

[B]

She's dating Adam.

[C]

She's. She's dating Adam. She's getting the salmon sperm smoothies.

[A]

The salmon sperm facial. According to Vogue.

[C]

It does.

[B]

Brutal phrase.

[C]

Yeah. They shouldn't call it that.

[A]

Is marketed under a number of other names because of the aforementioned issue. The Rejuron Reg R E J U R A N Reguran skin booster.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Is its alternate street legal.

[B]

Tossed an eye in there. We're jury on. But that's just me.

[A]

An average of 500 per session. In case you're interested in an injection.

[B]

Of just the salmon yourself. What are we doing?

[C]

But you have find that salmon and.

[B]

Blow it out there and put in the work.

[C]

I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. Look. I would never. Just to elevate this conversation.

[A]

Are you a lobbyist for the salmon sperm?

[C]

I would only say that you have to imagine how much time it takes to each of those. That it's a lot. That's a lot of time. So it's really 500. Honestly. Is on the low end.

[B]

It's just the labor. It's not even parts.

[A]

The injection includes polynucleotides derived from Milt. M I L T. The fourth gift the magi brought. Hope not.

[C]

But Milt is the salmon. Is the sperm. Right.

[A]

Is. Is the fish semen.

[C]

You know that because I remember someone telling me there's like a. I'm gonna get this wrong. But there's like a. Like a super high end. I want to say Japanese restaurant in the city where like one of the things they have that's like, oh dude, you gotta. You absolutely gotta get the cod sperm there, bro. Cod sperm at this place. Unbelievable. I think it was called Milt call it cod spur. Yeah. They don't call it cod sperm on the menu.

[A]

Also known as shirako.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Now that's beautiful.

[A]

This is what it sounds like though. When Kim Kardashian is soft launching this new procedure to America.

[B]

I just don't think I have it in me to survive. I think I crumble and just would rather die. But I got salmon sperm facial with salmon sperm injected into my face. I'd love to see Kylie survive.

[A]

They moved real quick past it.

[B]

What are we talking about? She's like, I think I'd rather die than survive.

[C]

Yeah. Someone's just come to sell her a bunker or something. And she's like, btw, remind me to tell you about the salmon sperm I.

[A]

Got about the skin regeneration and new collagen production that was stimulated by the milt.

[C]

I mean like what it got me thinking. What got me wondering about to lead us To a topic of conversation. Sure is like, what would you do or not do in the name of vanity? Like, to me, I think it. I think truly, if someone said to me, the salmon sperm is awesome. It works so well, I'd be like, dude, light it up.

[B]

I would be with you if. Because it's natural, right? It's natural. Naturally occurring. Probably not naturally extracted. But imagine the weight if you had. Let's not get into it.

[A]

Did this. If you're asking was this humanely extracted, had to be.

[C]

I'm sure it is. They probably get the salmon in there with some magazines or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, those salmon were loving it.

[B]

But it being natural is. Is. Is a plus for me. I don't love, like, putting in something that you don't. It doesn't naturally occur. But I. I would also need it to be one and done. I'm not going back and re sperming my.

[C]

It needs. You need six treatments or it doesn't work.

[B]

Yeah. I needed to be like, yeah, you do it this many times. And then it's. It's the damage. It's not like every month I have to go, you know, I gotta get a money shot from a salmon. It's just not. That's not for me. But I also am afraid of needles. Your producers are. Are mortified by what's happening in this podcast. A lot of heads and hands.

[C]

They've all left. The lights are out.

[B]

I don't. I'm afraid of needles, and I don't. I know I will reach a point where I'm like, man, I wish I injected something into my face five years ago. But until I get to that point, we're going all au natural. So I just slather my face up with good old regular lotion all the time.

[C]

I feel like I would do, I mean, pretty much anything. There was definitely a time in my life, like when I was a young lad, where I was like, if I go ball, let's just go bald, dude. Who cares? But then I was like, hotter than I am now.

[B]

Now once you reach the mountaintop.

[C]

Yeah. Now I'm like, dude, staple that hair. Whatever it takes to make it grow more. I'll do anything.

[B]

You can't fly coach after you've been first.

[C]

Exactly. Right? So. And when you're like, oh, it has to be natural, I don't give it, bro. I do not care.

[B]

Just put it in.

[C]

Whatever. Whatever it takes. I have extremely bad eczema. Jealous.

[B]

Sick. And where do you get it? Because I get it on my eyelids.

[C]

Eyelids. We're talking worse. Wait, we could talk after, because worse.

[A]

What you guys. What are you guys doing with. To solve that problem?

[B]

I just put goop on it.

[C]

I got two. I got two things.

[B]

Goop with steroids.

[C]

What's your goop?

[B]

I don't know what it's called.

[C]

Is it Tobradex? No, because I'm. I'm a pharmaceutical boy through and through. Tobradex. If you're out there, hit me with the sponsorship.

[A]

I had synthetic salmon.

[C]

Exactly. I had what they call blepharitis all over this right here.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

So I use Toberdex, but then I started another pharmaceutical company. I'm going to plug. I don't know what company is, but I use a product called Dupixent, which is injection Dupixent. And I was like, ground floor that.

[B]

With Dupixent, I watch a lot of tv. So I. If you've got a pharma ad out there, I know your song or your tag line.

[C]

Yes. And I started taking Dupixent. Like, I.

[A]

My. You have it injected into you?

[C]

No, I injected myself.

[A]

You self dup.

[C]

I self injected. And I would say it's, like, pretty viscous. So, like, it's not like. Like the flu shot. It's like, boom, it's in. It's in Dupixent. I'm like, you are? You are. You're pushing that plunger down for a little while.

[B]

Remember when I said I was afraid of needles?

[C]

And you're like, maybe I'm not doing it right, but my skin kind of has, like, a little bubble before.

[B]

It's like my dog, which comes back from the vet. And they're like, we gave her juice, and she's gonna be hydrated.

[C]

I'm getting juiced by your dog's vet. But that works. Dupixent. And I was.

[A]

Your eyes.

[B]

Look, unless your lids are clear, I've got a. I'm having my. I've got eczema right now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Starting.

[C]

I would get the eczema every place. And, like, when I started getting on my face, it was.

[B]

You were like, get out of here. I'm a hottie.

[C]

My dermatologist was the lady who did. Who came up with this Dupixent.

[B]

Huh?

[C]

And so she.

[A]

Dr. Dupixent.

[C]

Yeah. Dr. Barbara Dupixent.

[A]

You need to put the acoustic, like, legal disclaimer guitar strum underneath everything that Michael has been saying.

[C]

What was the point of this?

[A]

The L. It was your justice you would go to was your total desperation.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And I don't to be pretty.

[C]

I do not. I hate injections. Like when the. Whenever I have my blood drawn or have needles, I mean, but blood drawn or an injection, I look away.

[A]

So I see it happen.

[B]

I faint.

[A]

I had my physical recently.

[B]

I faint.

[A]

I had a physical recently and I have gotten lightheaded previously. But I've been okay. Other times, not as fainty, I think as Katie is describing. But the nurse, she was like, do you. Do you. Are you afraid we get lightheaded? And I was like, well, I have in the past. And she was like, you gotta lie down.

[B]

That's what they make me do.

[A]

I am a giant coward.

[B]

No, it's not a coward. For me at least. Maybe yours is cuz you're scared. But for me it's a. I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's like a vaso vagal. Vaso vagal.

[C]

I think that's right. I've heard people say that before.

[B]

It's a real re. Thank you for confirming my reality. It's. My body has a reaction. So it's like the fear. I can talk myself off a ledge. My body goes. It's like fight or flight. My body goes away. It's like get us. Something's happening, right?

[A]

Your brain, your mind is telling you yes, but your body.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

No.

[B]

And we don't. But. But a cover version of that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because we don't with that guy anymore.

[A]

Definitely not.

[B]

Right.

[A]

My mom is a big reveal. Is a dermatologist.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And she's here today with salmon.

[B]

To show us how it's done.

[A]

Get ready to off some salmon with my mom.

[C]

Come on, Pablo.

[A]

So what do we find out today, guys?

[B]

Absolutely nothing. As you heard.

[A]

We found out so much.

[B]

I learned that somebody wants me to join a club I was not given anything help on.

[C]

Like what club where the lonely, Lonely women.

[B]

Yeah, a lonely women reading club for I'm not lonely.

[A]

Short attention span. What was the phrase? We have a whole thing printed out.

[B]

I have a fiance.

[A]

Engaged lonely woman.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Short attention span. Non judgmental.

[C]

It can be like lonely parentheses in a way.

[B]

In a way, yeah.

[C]

Lonely in a way.

[B]

Isolated.

[C]

Definitely. Yeah. There you go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Depressed ladies reading books that aren't the Bible. Okay, so I just jo. I just email and say hello.

[C]

You put up a thing on Craigslist or something? Anybody else want to pop in this?

[B]

Craigslist?

[C]

Yeah, Craigslist. Only the Die Hards are on there now.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't think. And I don't think it's safe. I don't think it's safe for me. I don't think I'm finding any parentheses, maybe lonely women that are real. But that's what I learned today is that I'm alone. And it's because I'm not in any clubs or have any kids that are in clubs that I can then pretend is my club.

[A]

Yeah, sorry again, not with that attitude. Michael, what did you find out today on this?

[C]

Oh, we do like a sum up.

[A]

Yeah. We all have to say you found out that we do a sum up at the end of this episode. That counts.

[C]

What did I learn? I learned. I learned that the peak of social cohesion according to this guy was 1965.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That doesn't seem true to me. That seems.

[B]

But I wasn't alive.

[C]

I trust a guy who wrote a book. He wrote a book. Yeah. I wouldn't be born until 50 years later that it doesn't seem possible to me that that'd be right. It feels like the war. World War II would be like then. That feels like social cohesion time.

[A]

Are you running for office right now? Are you sending us back?

[C]

I'm running for office and I'm. I'm advocating war. I. That. That's. But I. I'm surprised by that fact that I'm going to look further into it when I go home.

[B]

Yeah. Believe he's calling bull.

[A]

I'm glad that my article is one that we're questioning vigorously. We both learned only from you though, based on actual.

[B]

What did you learn?

[A]

I learned how to spell myrrh today.

[B]

Okay, that's. Who was that from?

[A]

Technically, that was from Michael, my rr.

[B]

No, I mean, like, why were we talking about it?

[A]

I don't remember.

[B]

I don't either. Nobody learned anything from Bible.

[A]

Bible. Your non biblical lonely, short attention span women's reading club that we're trying to launch. Also that all of us totally fine with some salmon sperm.

[C]

Absolutely. Would. Absolutely would.

[A]

Would.

[B]

Yeah, wood. Whatever. Not don't inject it.

[A]

Just rub it real hard. Oh, Pablo. This has been Pablo Torre finds out a Meadowlark meteor production and I'll talk to you next time.