Share & Starfriends & Tell with Mina Kimes and Katie Nolan

Summary

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Episode: Share & Starfriends & Tell with Mina Kimes and Katie Nolan

Air Date: December 5, 2025

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Main Theme

This episode is a playful, revealing exploration of friendship, personality, and sharing personal quirks through games. Pablo Torre sits down with Mina Kimes and Katie Nolan—two sharp, hilarious sports commentators—to play "Star Friends," a game designed to surface takes, stereotypes, and secret judgments in the friend group. Through light-hearted competition and sidelong digs, they riff on everything from fast food preferences to embarrassing habits, all within the context of discovering just how well they know each other.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Star Friends Game and Its Mechanics

[02:52–06:55]

• The group plays "Star Friends," a card game designed by Mina's friend Rob Dubbin at Brainfruit.
• The deck includes cards with star ratings (1–5) and cards with prompts/categories (e.g., book, character, animal).
• Gameplay involves assigning star ratings to each other and guessing how strongly friends feel about the given prompt.
• Emphasis is placed on knowing each other's "takes" rather than being competitive.
  • Mina: “It’s a very unusual game for me because it’s more about friendship than it is about winning.” [04:15]
  • Pablo: “I don’t believe that.” [04:23]
• The game generates organic conversation about their personalities, how well they know each other, and which stereotypes about themselves are true (e.g., Pablo loving karaoke, Mina being unable to handle spicy food).

2. Pandemic Nostalgia and Inside Jokes

[03:06–04:18]

• The trio reminisce about their time together during the pandemic, especially playing Zoom games—a period dubbed "Highly Quarantined."
• Pablo and Mina recall drawing disturbing artwork and sketching NFL logos from memory.
• Running joke: Pablo’s infamous drawing of Lenny the dog, which required censorship for being overly anatomically accurate.

3. Stereotypes and Self-Awareness

[02:07–02:52]

• The group kicks off with a round discussing stereotypes about themselves that are true.
  • Mina: “Love karaoke.” [02:12]
  • Pablo: “I am obsessed with grades.” [02:31]
  • Mina: “Can’t handle spice at all... wish I could, hate what it says about me, but I can’t.” [02:39]

4. Gameplay Highlights – Memorable Rounds & Notable Moments

A. Character Round: The “Grief Eater” (Dan Le Batard’s alter ego)

[10:03–13:21]

• Mina selects "the Grief Eater"—a nickname for Dan Le Batard when he tries to elicit emotional revelations from colleagues.
• Katie: “I do hate it. I do hate it. But...one star feels like it ignores parts of me that, like, genuinely, feels for him.” [11:28]
• Discussion on emotional vulnerability in sports media and friendship.

B. Food Preferences: Blue Cheese Showdown

[16:26–18:44]

• Katie: “Blue cheese.” (hoping Mina loves it and Pablo hates it)
• Both Mina and Pablo reveal they love blue cheese, upending Katie’s guess.
  • Mina: “If I am at a party and there’s a cheese platter... I will go for the blue cheese even knowing the conversational risk that brings to my breath.” [16:45]
  • Pablo: “I also love blue cheese... I don’t even think about the conversational party foul.” [16:58]
• They riff on party cheese etiquette and Mina’s penchant for proper Italian pronunciation (“bruschetta”).

C. Fast Food Loyalty: Taco Bell as a Friendship Litmus Test

[29:29–31:15]

• Mina tries to guess the group’s feeling on Taco Bell.
  • Katie: “Taco Bell would be my, like, five star... Taco Bell’s up there.” [30:05]
  • Pablo: “I haven’t had Taco Bell in like 15 years. But I stop by and... glance.” [31:00]
• Katie breaks down her ideal Taco Bell order with spicy specificity—cheesy gordita crunch, no lettuce, and cinnamon twists—exposing deep fast food loyalty.

D. The Great Gum Debacle—Gross-Out Comedy Gold

[49:13–52:04]

• Pablo reveals his unrelenting hatred for gum, especially gum stuck under tables—a childhood trauma.
  • Pablo: “My true zero star substance is just... gum.” [49:21]
• Katie realizes she left her own gum under Pablo’s studio desk during a past recording session—cackling, apologetic mayhem ensues.
  • Pablo: “That’s disgusting, Katie, what the hell?” [50:04]
  • Katie: “You guys are freaks. What were the freaks? Where are the... you guys are nuts.” [51:12]

E. Emotional Vulnerability, Group Chat Rituals & Movie Takes

[24:03–28:23] Avatar Film Franchise Round

• Pablo and Mina are revealed to be in a years-long group chat obsessing over the "Avatar" franchise, even organizing communal theater outings.
  • Mina: “This game has never been more about friendship than it is in this moment.” [24:20]
• Admission: none of them actually think Avatar is “good,” but the franchise is an important shared ritual.
• Katie, somewhat left out, laments her limited knowledge of the sequels and the in-group lore.

F. Other Memorable Pop Culture and Snack Takes

• Mall Food Court Rankings: Auntie Anne’s, Sbarro, Panda Express, and more. [31:17–32:09]
• Sweet & Sour Sauce at McDonald’s: Pablo and Katie agree it’s the best all-purpose sauce. [32:09–32:16]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

Stereotypes and Takes

• Mina: “I cannot handle [spicy food]. Wish I could—hate what it says about me.” [02:44]
• Pablo (about grades): “I am obsessed... with grades.” [02:31]

On Blue Cheese

• Mina: “I will make that little perfect [bruschetta] bite for myself.” [17:58]
• Pablo: “If you’re serving cheese at a party, you gotta put it on a table and let it sweat.” [17:19]

On Emotional Manipulation

• Mina: “The Grief Eater isn’t about Dan being sad. It’s about him getting that out of others...” [13:04]

On Gross Habits and Friendship

• Pablo: “My true zero star substance is... gum.” [49:21]
• Katie: “If there was gum there, it was me... I said out loud, I’m putting this under the table—remind me to get it later. And I never got it.” [49:35]
• Pablo: “That’s disgusting, Katie. What the hell?” [50:04]
• Katie: “You guys are freaks. What... you guys are nuts.” [51:12]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Stereotypes About Ourselves: [02:07]
• Introduction to the Star Friends Game: [04:23]
• Pandemic Nostalgia & Drawing Games: [03:06]
• Character Category & “Grief Eater” Discussion: [10:03]
• Blue Cheese Debate: [16:26]
• Taco Bell Loyalty Test: [29:29]
• Avatar Group Chat Revealed: [24:03]
• Mall Food Court and McDonald's Sauce Chat: [31:17 / 32:09]
• Gum Under the Desk Chaos: [49:13–52:04]

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode is playful, meandering, and delightfully self-deprecating—each member quick to roast and celebrate their own quirks as well as their friends’. The conversational cadence is rapid-fire, full of callbacks, and brimming with warmth and gentle mockery. They let inside jokes surface naturally, but always find ways to loop the listener in. The tone is honest, unpretentious, and distinctly reminiscent of a close-knit group hanging out long after the party should have ended.

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Takeaway

This episode is a love letter to the unfiltered, often embarrassing realities of real friendship—how the most trivial debates and gross-out moments can reveal the deepest understanding among people who know each other best. Sharing takes, food preferences, and emotional vulnerabilities isn’t just a podcast game—it’s the fabric of their connection.

If you want to feel like a fly on the wall of sports media’s funniest and most candid trio, this one’s a can’t-miss.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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What's the number one stereotype about you? That's true.

[A]

That's true.

[C]

Love Karaoke.

[A]

That is true.

[B]

You do love it. Damn, I hate caring. That's one where I I break the stereotype. There's a lot of things. That's one though for me, man.

[C]

I just keep guessing them. We just ruin the day by me guessing them. What about this one?

[A]

I am obsessed with grades.

[B]

Yeah, right. Which is going to come. This is an interesting game for I'm.

[A]

Unprepared for what this is, I can't.

[C]

Handle spice at all. And that's where the stereotype of me is true.

[B]

The whiteness.

[C]

I cannot handle it. Wish I could hate what it says about me. That I can't, but I can't. Anyway, let's play a game.

[A]

This game. I would like to explain what this sound is, though, and why Mina knows a lot more about it than we do.

[C]

That's my cue, I guess, because he looked at you.

[B]

Okay, so I brought a game today.

[A]

By the way, thanks for being here. We haven't actually gotten together in our studio in.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I love treat.

[B]

Remember when we used to do Highly Questionable during. What was it called again? During the pandemic.

[C]

Highly quarantined.

[B]

Highly quarantined.

[A]

Quarantined.

[B]

Yeah. The three of us used to hang out. We played a lot of games, A lot of games.

[C]

A lot of, like, Pictionary games, a.

[A]

Lot of drawing based games. Can we just flash and post some of the illustrations that we need?

[C]

Lenny's Red Rocket. I think I still have that somewhere.

[A]

I'm gonna auction that for charity.

[B]

Drew some of the most disturbing artwork I've ever seen. Yeah, I have a 2 year old.

[A]

I think I channeled what America felt like during the pandemic.

[C]

We were really going through it, like on zoom.

[A]

We sketched NFL logos by memory.

[C]

Oh, my God. Oh, brutal.

[E]

I love it.

[A]

I love drawing, you know, and we also drew Lenny at one point.

[B]

If you put up the photo that Pablo drew of Lenny, we do have to censor it. You have to censor it because he Penis.

[A]

I illustrated accurately.

[C]

Little dog penis.

[A]

Lenny's more than little.

[B]

This is why Dominique calls him Linus.

[C]

By the way, because of that drawing.

[B]

All right, so this game. So this is a very unusual game for me to enjoy because it's more about friendship than it is about winning.

[C]

That's not.

[A]

I don't believe that.

[C]

That's not what I know of you.

[B]

Okay, so the game is made by my friend Rob Dubben, who has a company called Brainfruit, where they make cool and creative things. And it's called Star Friends.

[A]

Katie, can you narrate what Mina is showing visually?

[C]

Mina has opened a plastic case. Very simple, very simple. The size of the deck of cards and in it I would say really bad at guessing numbers, but I would say something around 50 cards.

[B]

So there's two kinds of cards. There's star ratings of a variety of star ratings. Two stars. Those cards are white, right?

[A]

They are white with black stars of varying number.

[B]

And then There are stars that have or get cards. Pardon me, that have a single word on them. Instructions, which are categories. So like book, animal, plant.

[A]

So this is where I want to make clear to everybody. We're playing a card game. It is a visual game so far, but I don't think it needs to be for the audio only audience who we do care about.

[B]

The game is about takes and it's about how well you know each other.

[C]

Oh, Jesus.

[B]

And it's more so than that. And this is kind of what we all do for a living in some ways. It's about how well do we know each other's takes. Jesus Christ. So the way it works is very simple and it's just, you know, it's like a.

[C]

It's like a get fun.

[A]

Hey, Amina's trying to make this seem calm. I mean, how do you win?

[B]

You're about to understand why I'm doing this long preamble about it not being competitive.

[A]

She's like a dungeon master.

[B]

The way it works is we go around and every person takes a turn and it rotates. So I'll put down a card that has a category brand. Then I'll give Katie a card and I'll give Pablo a card. Thank you. And then you reveal. These are the star cards. Katie's five stars, Pablo's three.

[C]

Everyone's been saying that.

[B]

So what I have to do now.

[A]

What is this?

[C]

WikiFeet 4.9. And you know, that hurts my feelings.

[B]

Are you even on there?

[C]

Probably not.

[B]

He's been trying to get on there for years.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

At the end of this episode, we're going to get me on Wiki Feet.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

You going to show feet?

[A]

If you stick around, if you increase the watch time of this channel, I will show feet.

[C]

Stop doing this. You've done this already. Stop doing this. If you watch this video, I'll go after this guy.

[B]

He has been doing that.

[C]

Keep watching the.

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Don't be.

[B]

Don't get thirsty.

[C]

You don't have to be. You've got plenty to drink. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You're okay. Mr. Beast, over here, please.

[A]

I believe it's called truth to power.

[C]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[A]

By making you watch my content.

[B]

Back to the game. So here's what I have to do now. And so this is. It's my turn, right? I have to try to come up with let's not do brand. That's not a fun one to start with.

[C]

You don't want brands.

[B]

A book.

[D]

Oh, good.

[A]

Oh, I had a solitaire. Joke queued up already. Damn. You said brand. And I was like, damn.

[C]

Well, damn.

[A]

Targeting computer activated.

[B]

You just missed the opportunity to actually do that. At some point during the game, she.

[C]

Turns it back on him. It's really beautiful.

[A]

That was a cell phone.

[C]

It's really beautiful.

[A]

That could have been the kicker of.

[C]

I know. It could have been the whole title and everything. People would have clicked hashtag.

[A]

Cut that out so I can reset it.

[C]

Okay. No, no, no.

[B]

So what I have to do now is try to come up with a book that Katie loves. Come up with a book. And that Pablo's kind of meh on a three star.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So let's say I was like, I don't know, catch her in the rye or something. So you basically have to tell me if you agree with it. So this is why it's not that competitive. Because ultimately we are all deciding whether each other get points.

[A]

We are being judged by ourselves.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

It is an honor system.

[B]

So my point about, like, the whole competitiveness thing.

[C]

Too busy getting jokes off, really. I know.

[B]

I feel like he was. He's been. He's been waiting to do a solitaire joke and he burned it. So cool. All of us.

[C]

He burned it for everyone in the room. It was such a waste.

[A]

We could have. We could have made something out of that.

[C]

You know what it is? What it is.

[B]

Game is in here somewhere.

[C]

Oh, you mother. Oh, you know, let's stop talking, lest we burn.

[A]

I think I'm not going to try to make it again.

[C]

I know. That's the problem.

Who starts and how does it start? And let's go.

[B]

Yay, friendship. Okay.

[A]

And start.

[C]

Great.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Begin.

[B]

Boo.

[C]

Thanks, Boo.

[B]

Shuffle the categories.

[C]

I have to show it to you, right? Yeah. So why do we deal it upside down? I don't know.

[B]

For the suspense.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

My first category. This is a great one.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Character.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

I have to come up with a character that Katie hates. So does Katie, and that Pablo is three stars on.

[A]

I see how this game works now.

[B]

I have an idea.

[A]

So this is just the thing that you answer. We are here to judge.

[B]

Yes. You're just gonna tell me if you agree with it or not.

[C]

And it's out of five stars. This is a character that I would rate one star. And it can be on whatever metric I want, right?

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

Because a character that you dislike could also be a good character. You know what I mean? Good for the plot.

[B]

Also, character is such a broad, subjective.

[C]

Right.

[B]

It could be a million different things.

[C]

Off to a good start. Let's go.

[A]

Like Ampersand.

[B]

That's the nerdiest possible interpretation of character. Correct.

[A]

Are there zero stars, by the way, or. No?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay, very good.

[B]

One star is the worst possible.

[A]

So that was a one star? No, that was. Well, okay, I'm not gonna complicate it.

[B]

Character. I thought of one, but you're not a three star. That's too high for you. This is where it gets tricky.

[A]

Already judgmental.

[B]

What's that sounds.

[C]

I don't know. I just want the game to have begun. Yeah, it has begun. I know, but we're just kind of waiting for you to say something.

[A]

We're kind of.

[C]

And I don't know what to do in this part of the.

[A]

Is what Katie is saying.

[B]

Okay, Grimace.

[A]

Ugh.

[C]

Like the guy from the McDonald's.

[B]

You made me go so fast.

[C]

Wait, no, I'm.

[D]

No, I'm not.

[C]

I didn't mean to make you go fast.

[A]

We're going to sit here and just make sure that Katie Nolan is clear that Grimace is the purple guy.

[C]

The guy from McDonald's.

[B]

Yeah. I just didn't know if.

[C]

I didn't know if he was, like, also a thing I didn't know about.

[B]

I don't even want to do Grimace.

[C]

I don't even want to be here right now.

[A]

Is there another Grimace?

[C]

I just have had a long day. I just needed to make sure we were all talking about the blobby purple guy that showed up in the streets. No, I have a new one.

[B]

I have a new one. The character is the Grief Eater.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

For those who don't know, who are not part of the crossover world, this is.

[A]

This is is what Dan LeBatard's superhero name is.

[B]

It's when Dan is really pushy about trying to get you to reveal something sad about yourself.

[C]

Why'd you have to bring it home?

[B]

Yeah, Pablo's a three. Katie's a one now. But I. Be honest, okay?

[A]

I will be honest.

[C]

I do hate it. I do hate it.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

But I don't know if one star feels like it ignores the parts of me that, like, genuinely, like, feels for him, the Grief Eater, and goes like, of course you know, I love him. And so, like, it's hard to give who he is a one star.

[A]

I feel like when you say the word hate, the answer is yes, this.

[C]

Is a one star character. I know, I know. Stop arguing for mine and talk about yours.

[B]

This feels accurate, though.

[A]

So the reason why three stars for the Grief Eater feels accurate.

[B]

Put your hand away.

[A]

Mina is just now That's. You guys are just outdoing yourselves. This is one star for every time I think I have intentionally tried to make Dan cry.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's hard for me to say that I am anti grief Eater when I have summoned. Not only summoned the grief Eater, but tried to grief eat the grief eater.

[C]

Yeah. You are the guy like the third guy of the human centipede of the Grief Eater.

[A]

And that is the worst guy to be.

[C]

Yeah, it's the one star guy.

[A]

No, actually, sorry, the middle guy is the worst guy to be.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Because you have to eat it and you got to.

[C]

Yeah. But you.

[A]

Someone's mouth.

[C]

Yeah, I guess that part the third guy really considered really bad.

[B]

It is.

[A]

If the character was which part of the you are. I would say that. Okay. Mina is correct. Unfortunately.

[C]

Yeah. I think she might be right. Does it. It feels mean. You don't seem like a bully to say that.

[B]

I hate when Dan gets sad.

[A]

That is what you're saying.

[C]

And I don't feel good about that.

[B]

The grief eater isn't about Dan being sad. It's about him getting that out of others. Yeah, I didn't say sad, Dan. That's a difference.

[C]

Well, that's how Dan gets it out of me, is he gets sad and then I get sad for Dan.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[C]

He just.

[A]

It's you.

[C]

It's.

[B]

Give me the point.

[C]

It's manipulative.

[B]

Give me the point.

[A]

Mina. Playing the game or Dan?

[C]

No, I'm making the point for one star instead of feeling afraid that the Internet's going to be mad at me for. It's. It's a manipulative thing that. And therefore a one star character.

[A]

Katie Nolan hates when Dan LeBatard expresses feelings that men aren't otherwise encouraged to express. No.

[C]

Just man up.

[B]

You know I got both of your guys cards. Yeah.

[C]

Mina, the game. You brought that? We're doing a commercial for. For free. You're winning.

[B]

Congrats. Support small businesses. All right, you're next. You're next. Sick.

[C]

Okay, well, this one's for you.

[B]

So this goes back in the bottom of the pile and you can take one in the top.

[A]

So.

[B]

So I'm five. Ooh, two. Ooh, this is tough. It's like a 710 split in bowling. Cause you gotta find something I love and he does not like.

[C]

Yeah, no, I'm just explaining for the audience. And it's food.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

I love. That means like you got the hardest one off the bat.

[A]

Food.

[B]

Well, yeah. I don't know how much you know about. I Don't. But you know one thing I love.

[C]

We can guess. That's true. But that's a drink. I would say drink separate from food. I wouldn't call that food. That's crazy. All right.

[A]

Katie and I have eaten food together.

[C]

We know, but you always order the same thing.

[B]

We've all.

[A]

That's not accurate.

[C]

We haven't gone separately enough that I like, have noticed.

[A]

Hold on. Katie, Nolan and I. Just to be clear about how absurd your lack of memory is.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's pretty bad.

[A]

We went to a major league baseball game. Yeah. And I ate a lot of chicken fingers out of a bucket.

[C]

Right. So what?

[A]

So I'm just saying.

[C]

Does that mean my memory? What does that have to mean?

[B]

This is a two star. How is that helpful at all? You like chicken fingers and buckets.

[C]

Okay. Love to eat food and buckets.

[B]

Let me.

[C]

Every time we go out to dinner, you go, let's go to the place.

[A]

Where they say I can only bring a horse to water.

[B]

Let me intercede here with a bit of gameplay commentary.

[C]

I hate whatever.

[B]

If you have a tough category, you could just aim for one of us and be like, you know what? I'm not gonna get the split.

[C]

Sure. So let me just pick a game.

[B]

Just saying. You can fix something that he hates or I love.

It's a lot of pressure. I know.

[C]

It is.

[A]

Katie's like, okay. I can't say anything even vaguely ethnic.

[C]

So I am feeling unable to mention noodles.

[B]

If she. Or lean into it. Knowing the one difference between us is. Is contrary to what many people think, Filipinos and Koreans are two different cultures.

[C]

And if you pick, they're not really that close.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Geographically speaking. Correct.

[C]

But you just mean, like culturally similar.

[A]

I just think most people think both tortured by Japan.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Like everyone else in.

[B]

That's a lot of Asia. Yeah. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I do love Japanese food. Ironically.

[C]

Are we going just any.

[B]

It's open ended. You could. You could choose a meal, you could choose a restaurant. You could choose a cuisine. You could choose a dish.

[C]

A cuisine. Yeah.

[B]

I think that's fair.

[C]

Blue cheese.

[B]

Blue cheese. I actually love blue cheese. I actually love it. And it's divisive. So that's actually a great. And you had no idea that that was a total Hail Mary by you. You've never seen me eat blue cheese. You didn't know that about me. If I am at a party and there's a cheese platter and I will go for the blue cheese. Even knowing the conversational risk that that brings to my breath.

[A]

But here's where you went wrong. I also love blue cheese. I love blue cheese so much that I don't. I mean, I don't even think about the conversational party foul. That is. Since when is that a problem to.

[B]

Have blue cheese breath?

[C]

Guys, as a lady who hates blue cheese, don't come near me. If you just beeline cheese.

[A]

You know what? I like a stinky cheese.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I like a stink cheese.

[C]

At a party, in a social situation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I, I, I.

[A]

You know what?

[C]

You know what I was told, Alpha?

[A]

If you.

[C]

If you.

[A]

If you're serving cheese at a party, you got to put on a table and let it sweat.

[B]

You get this.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

The cheese has to sweat.

[C]

That was nice of you.

[B]

The cheese has to sweat. Do you. And the other thing about blue cheese, too, with, like, a platter is there's usually, like, some sweet stuff, like a little fig jam.

[A]

Are you talking about chunks or you're talking about a dip?

[B]

I was thinking chunks.

[C]

Who was thinking a dip?

[B]

I was thinking.

[C]

I didn't say a blue cheese dip. I just said blue cheese.

[B]

I was thinking, like, at a party.

[A]

I'm agnostic. I.

[C]

It.

[B]

If there. Imagine Beautiful. Picture this plate. You're at a party. There's a little bit.

[A]

Don Draper. Carousel speech.

[B]

No, I'm just asking. There's Brie, there's some hard cheeses.

[C]

I'm going for that.

[B]

You're going for the hard cheese?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I will get the blue cheese first. And I will take the time, antisocially, to put together, like, a little bruschetta. The blue cheese, the fig on it. I will make that little perfect bite for myself.

[C]

She said bruschetta. Nobody says bruschetta.

[B]

What do people say?

[C]

Bruschetta.

They're not right. You are right.

[B]

I've just never heard someone say that in my presence.

[C]

Only smart friends.

[A]

I have. I have a. I have a business idea. Oh, sorry. Business idea is speaking of both ethnic stereotypes as well as my view on blue cheese. Buffalo wings. Okay. My restaurant's serving those, delivering them to people.

[C]

Wing Stop exists.

[A]

Guess what else I'm serving, though.

[C]

What?

[A]

White rice.

[B]

Buffalo wings and white rice. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For what purpose?

[A]

Sharks. What does he say? Because what I'm doing is I'm eating them together.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, you like wing? Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Crazy. Can we get our stars, please?

[B]

It's like Korean. Korean fried chicken.

[A]

Yeah. White rice. Why does anyone serving white rice?

[C]

Yo, everybody's serving white rice. Not with bubbles. I order it, and I feed it to Myrtle.

She loves it. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, who doesn't?

[C]

And I could just make it.

[A]

What are your. What are your stars?

[B]

Five again. Wow.

[C]

Two stars. Five and two. Now this is like a 710.

[A]

Film.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[C]

And it used the word film. It did not say movie.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. That maybe narrows it a little bit, right? Is Zootopia 2 a film?

[C]

Also worth keeping in mind that I hate watch many a film. I just finished the Hallmark movie Touchdown Christmas and Touchdown the Bills. Whatever.

[B]

I watched several clips of you interviewing the guests, the stars of that film, solely because the guy was wearing glasses. I know.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

Straight up, I'm going to admit it. Yeah, the glasses. I was like, he's a handsome man and he was wearing glasses. And he was. And I was just like, click.

[C]

Handsome man, click.

[A]

What is that about?

[C]

It's about two Bills fans who fall. Lifelong Bills fans who fall in love. It is literally about nothing.

[B]

It's about a hot guy wearing glasses.

[C]

Holiday, Touchdown.

[A]

Like a. Like a male. She's all that.

[C]

I don't think in the movie less happens. Somehow less happens than that. Than in that.

[B]

Is that the female algorithmic equivalent of like a guy seeing a woman in like workout leggings or something? And like just automatically a lady seeing.

[A]

A. I don't know. Is your algorithm all guys in glasses?

[C]

It used to be guys chop it like doing. I used to get a guy that would chop trees a lot, and then he started to act like he knew ladies were tuning into. And I was like, I'm over you. I'm out. I'm out.

[A]

I'm out.

[E]

I'm out.

[B]

It's not for my gaze.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do it. Keep doing it the way you. You were doing it because you needed wood. Okay. You were not doing it because I was watching you do it. And that one time you looked up at the camera and fixed your hair was an accident. And then he, like, you know, would you be.

[B]

Would you let other people look at your algorithm?

[C]

Yeah, because I'm past all that now. I'm just. It's all goof. It's all goofy. I'm just there to laugh.

[A]

It's. It's a post modern nothing.

[C]

Yeah. I'm past. There's no sex anywh my algorithm.

[A]

I promise I am.

This is. This is the most forbidden game of all is what's on your.

Film.

[B]

This is a dangerous game.

[A]

Yeah. I can't show you this.

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[C]

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[B]

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[E]

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[A]

Stuff.

The film is.

[B]

Avatar. I knew you were gonna do that. I knew.

[C]

It. You love.

[B]

Avatar. This is such a complicated question. Okay, for me, I don't even know where to.

[A]

Begin? Give me your card. Give me your five star card. If you're gonna tell me that you're not a five star on.

[B]

Avatar.

[C]

Okay. I think we're all gonna notice really quickly that these two are closer than I am. And so this is sort of really.

[B]

Unfair. No, no, no. We.

[A]

He. I believe you're looking for. You are correct. Here is my.

[B]

Card. So here's the thing.

[C]

Katie. I thought the game was about.

[B]

Friendship. This game has never been more about friendship than it is in this moment. Because Pablo and I are in a group chat that's been going on for seven, eight years. Pre Pan. Yeah, that's entirely about.

[A]

Avatar. What?

[B]

What? And I don't even like. It's not a good.

[C]

Movie. No. Oh.

[B]

Okay. I'm not done. I'm not.

[A]

Done. I need to text our group chat that you're saying these things right.

[B]

Now. Don't they watch the movie Is insane. They're all insane. We went. We made a date to see the last Avatar. The entire group chat went to the movie theater together. I even brought bought. I made.

[C]

My. Wait. When you say the last Avatar. Now I'm getting lost. We are literally just talking about the Avatar film franchise. Not the last. Isn't there one that's also called.

[A]

The. Shockingly, it's not the Asian.

[B]

Avatar. And I wasn't asking because of.

[A]

That. We are. We are on the Precipice of Avatar.

[B]

3. We. We. We all went to see Avatar 2 together in the theater. I even got the themed Na' Vi.

[C]

Drink. Oh, I thought you were going to say it must have come with one of those popcorn buckets that looks like something you're.

[A]

Saying. Extended her braid and connected it to her drink.

[B]

There. The movie is so insane that there's a part in the movie. I mean multiple parts where the whales talk and they put the whales subtitle. I'm not spoiling. This movie came.

[A]

Out. It's an awesome. This is an awesome part of the.

[B]

Movie. I also. I hate. I hate creepy movies. I had to take off my glasses numerous times because it makes me.

[C]

Dizzy.

[B]

Wow. The movie is so silly. There's a white guy who dreads a spider who's a main.

[A]

Character. Have you ever seen spider.

[C]

Before? No. Is this still Pocahontas based? Isn't that what we always said? That Avatar was the original Spider.

[A]

Is a bit of an inversion of.

[B]

Pocahontas. The global politics of Avatar are complicated. It has a lot to say about the environment. But there is a main character who's just A white kid with dreads who then has to wear a mask for much of the movie.

[A]

Anyways. Kind of like a Mowgli.

[B]

Character. All of which is to say the movie is way too long. It's absolutely insane. Parts of it make no sense. I laughed out loud at things that weren't supposed to be.

[A]

Funny. And.

[E]

Yet. And.

[C]

Yet. But you said Avatar. But you said Avatar. But you said Avatar. You did not say Avatar. The last one that just.

[B]

Happened. Great point.

You said great.

[C]

Point.

[B]

Avatar. Because the first Avatar is so.

[A]

Bad.

Hold.

[C]

On. You.

[A]

Said. I'm just gonna. I'm just.

[C]

Gonna.

[A]

Avatar. Hold.

[B]

On. Avatar 1. I saw alone the theater on New Year's.

[C]

Day. I saw Avatar 1 alone in the theater, but it wasn't on New Year's.

[B]

Day. Oh, yeah. I wasn't alone. My brother was.

[C]

There. Damn. Well, there goes any of that being in.

[B]

Common. My brother, who literally brought his own towel, wiped his glasses and everyone in the row's glasses were so different. And then as we were walking out, turned to me and said, that's the best movie I've ever seen in my.

[C]

Life.

[A]

Wow. Wow. To be very clear though, Mina's relationship with her brother is like.

Which athlete have you compared it to.

[B]

Previously? I really thought you were reaching for a solitaire thing there.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, wow. She's just got her guns.

[B]

Out. My brother, I think he's kind of the Travis Kelce to my Jason Kelce now that I think about.

[A]

It. I was gonna go Michael and Marcus.

[B]

Vick. Well, yeah.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Okay. But he also is like. He's like. He is like the Travis Kelsey of our.

[C]

Family.

[B]

Okay. Complimentary in a lot of.

[A]

Ways. Non.

[C]

Derogatory. And then in other.

[A]

Derogatory.

The. Okay, so the reason I'm gonna keep this card is because this group Chat bought tickets to see Avatar.

[C]

3.

[A]

Okay. In LA December 19th, and is telling me to fly to LA to join.

[C]

Them.

[A]

Yeah. And that suggests to me that this is beyond a single film. This is a franchise.

[C]

Concept. I see the semantic argument that you're making, but I haven't seen seen the second Avatar film, so I won't. You won't be getting my card because I can't give it two stars. I've only seen the first one. And you just.

[A]

Are.

I feel like I'm entitled to both cards, but I'm going to take.

[C]

One. You're not entitled to both. You would feel that way, man. Now see, we can gang up on him as well. Now I know how doesn't always have to be.

[A]

Pocahontas.

[B]

Felt.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

Colonized. Keep it. But now.

[B]

What? Oh, now.

[C]

What? Do I keep it if.

[B]

I. No, you get back to the pile. You only get to keep the.

[C]

Pile. The.

[B]

Win. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. And I won.

[B]

This. Yes. And I just remembered the animals in the back are actually the amount of points, because a one star is not hard, but a three star is harder to guess. So that's how it works. Okay, What I don't understand at the.

[A]

End. At the.

[C]

End. I don't know how to get.

[B]

This under there at the end when we do with the, you know, the compiling of the points. All right.

[C]

Okay. And you'll handle that, I guess. And she'll just know how to add it up and we'll just trust that Mina, the most competitive of all.

[B]

Of us, as a woman, once famously said on a since deleted Twitter post to Stephen A. Smith, that's an easy win for me.

I'm 8 miling you. You can't make a.

[A]

Joke. I did have that. I did have that. I did have.

[C]

That. Cheddar bomb.

[A]

Right? I did have.

[B]

That.

[C]

Ready? Is that his.

[A]

Name? Cheddar bomb.

Mom spaghetti. A five star.

[B]

Food. Okay, you guys go. Okay, here we are. Three stars.

[A]

Brand.

[B]

Two. Okay, this is brand. We talked about brand. Okay, so this is like something you feel slightly better about than him, but you're both kind of met on. I'm gonna go with. This is a bit of a shot in the dark here. I'm gonna go with Taco Bell here. Oh, think about.

[C]

It. Couldn't be more.

[B]

Wrong.

[C]

Really? Absolutely not. Taco. If we're comparing it to other fast food brands, Taco Bell would be my, like, five.

[B]

Star.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow. Taco Bell's up.

[A]

There. What are you.

[C]

Ordering? Well, it.

[A]

Depends. What's a five star.

[C]

Order? I would say probably a cheesy Gordita Crunch with no lettuce. A. I go regular Mountain Dew. I know people love the Baja Blast, but I'm a Mountain Dew regular original blend girl. And then I will usually get, like, two hard tacos. Hard tacos, yeah. But I'm boring. But they also. Those Chicken Cantina tacos are good too, though, those new ones. And then sometimes I'll get a chalupa. Again, no lettuce, because just, you know, get out of here. Ew. You know, Dan's big on the quesadillas. I don't do a burrito. I've never gotten a burrito from Taco Bell. But, yeah, cinnamon twists. I'm all over that.

[A]

Menu. I didn't I think Katie has sufficiently proven that this is more than a three.

[B]

Star. Yeah. I didn't even know there were people who ate hard tacos at Taco Bell. Yeah, well, I've.

[C]

Never. Nice to meet.

[A]

You. I haven't had Taco Bell in like 15 years. But I stop by and I do.

[C]

Glance. I've had it more recently than 15 days. I've had it. I had it.

[B]

Last. Are you like a Taco Bell.

[A]

Guy? I. So I, I.

[C]

Like. Would you ever. Would.

[B]

You. As we ponder the two.

[A]

Stars. Yeah. Clearly lost. Okay, that's, that's.

[B]

Which. If you were in it. Let's say you're in a mall food.

[A]

Court.

[B]

Yeah. And there's a litany of options. What are the best mall food.

[C]

Courts? Auntie Anne's number one Sarcoo, Japan. Is that what it's.

[B]

Called? Yeah, something like.

[C]

That. Then Sbarro, the pizza place. There's a.

What else is in a mall? Is this. Are you guys just proving how low brow my tastes are? Is that what they go, just let her go, she'll.

[B]

Change. Now there's like the LeBron chain. The Blaze Pizza is always in malls.

[A]

Ew.

[C]

What? I've literally never seen.

[B]

That. It's always in malls.

[A]

Now.

[C]

Ew. What the Johnny Rockets. If you're getting.

[B]

Nasty. I like Johnny. I like the teriyaki one. They always like, do you want a.

[C]

Sample? And I'm, I'm like, of course I do. That's why you walk through. You want the. Whenever it's always like, you want our bourbon.

[B]

Chicken. I'm like, oh, you know, I do Panda. Anyways, the point is my thing with.

[A]

Tacos. So I love fast food. I order the same thing though, from McDonald's every time. I get a Big.

[C]

Mac.

[A]

Yeah. I get sweet and sour.

[C]

Sauce.

[A]

Yeah. And I get the best.

[C]

Sauce. The best.

[A]

Sauce. It's an all purpose sauce, bar.

[C]

None. Yes. For the fries, for the burgers, for the.

[A]

Chicken. For the burgers.

[C]

Especially.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm also getting an apple.

[C]

Pie. Hey, can I litigate something here quick? Dan, the other day we got McDonald's in the order I specifically asked for. And we paid for sweet and sour sauce. Dan knows that's my sauce. Yeah, we. Dan gets the bag. Cause he's driving, puts it in his lap. I wasn't gonna go, can you check and make sure the sauce is in there? But Dan goes, let me check the bag real quick. Hands me the soda. So I'm like, oh, let me. And he's digging through the bag and he Goes, great. The lady comes back, takes the stuff. We go, we park. No sweet and sour sauce in the.

[A]

Bag. Oh, is it hot.

[C]

Mustard? I go, you checked? No, there was no. There just wasn't any.

[B]

Sauce. He just straight up.

[C]

Lied. He checked for his.

[B]

Stuff. Oh.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, are we in a fight right.

[A]

Now?

[C]

Yeah. And I. And I'll tell you, I didn't blow up, but I think I was. I think I would have been.

[A]

Justified. Why can't we buy Sweden sour sauce from a grocery.

[C]

Store? Because they won't. I don't know. But I bet there's a reason and I don't want them to try to do it and have it be bad. So I'd rather just have to go there and get it. It's.

[B]

Fine.

[A]

Anyways.

[C]

Yeah. What the.

[A]

Hell. You hold.

[B]

On. Two stars is right for Taco.

[C]

Bell. You don't.

[B]

Even. You don't even like Taco Bell. Give it to.

[C]

Me. Did I just give myself this? I think I.

[A]

Did. I think, you know, this is what I want that. I don't know if Mina deserves.

[B]

This. You don't even eat Taco.

[C]

Bell. You didn't.

[B]

Even. I mean, you hate.

[C]

It. So it's not a one star. It does sound like it's a two.

[A]

Star.

[C]

Fine. God damn, she's good at the game she.

[A]

Invented. I don't think this is how this game is supposed to be.

[C]

Played. I don't think so either. They trade this up. Is it my turn? That's for.

[B]

You. Thank.

[A]

You.

[C]

Thanks. And that's for.

[A]

You. Thanks. I think sweet and sour sauce as a jug is a great.

[B]

Product. Four stars.

[A]

Here. Two.

[C]

Stars. Plant. What.

[B]

The. Oh, there's some really obvious ones actually. Are there? Because two stars for you and four.

[C]

Stars. Yeah. If it were inverted, maybe Plant. Don't ever do that again.

[B]

Oh. Audio audience. Probably just tickling. Did like the Mr. Burns, but.

[A]

It looked like just.

[B]

Tickling. Just looked like a jugg. Tickling Two large.

[C]

Leaves. Okay. Two stars for Pablo. So he's like, not really into it. Four stars for Mina. So she likes it, but she's not obsessed with it. And it's a plant. It is a.

[A]

Plant. Bobby.

[C]

Altoff.

Good. That's.

[B]

Really. You could do something like. You can be clever like.

[C]

This. You.

[B]

Cannot. You.

[A]

Can. Katie. You know what? You know what? You too can be clever like.

[C]

This. Hey, thank you. Thank you for. The only reason I wasn't was because I was waiting for permission. Plant a.

[B]

Plant.

So this is tricky because of him, because he loves plants. So two Stars is like, what is a thing that he doesn't.

[A]

Like? I, I, I actually have expressed to Katie now. Is it a two. Well, maybe it is a two star. I've expressed to you a plant. Take that. I am a little sensitive about how I conveyed it to you.

[C]

What? What, what are you, who are you talking to? Me or.

[A]

Mina? I'm talking to.

[D]

You.

[B]

Okay. Could be a vegetable, too. This.

[C]

Plant. No. What is the name of the. What's the name of.

[A]

The.

[C]

Dandelion. No, that. I googled dandelion and it showed me a yellow.

[B]

Thing. That is a.

[C]

Dandelion. That's what I thought, but I googled.

[B]

It. It's before the yellow things come out. Right. Or.

[A]

After. You're talking about the thing with.

[C]

Like. It's like a.

[B]

Weed. Blow it and, and you blow.

[C]

It and it goes everywhere. Yeah, that's what I'm. That's the, that's the.

[B]

Plant. There it is. I do like those. I loved blowing them when I was a little.

[C]

Girl. They're a plant with something to.

[B]

Do. And I used to, I used to take them and make little.

[C]

Crowns. Yeah. Cute. Very cute. And you. It's a.

[B]

Weed. You hate a.

[C]

Weed. I like those. You can have.

[A]

Mine. Here's my take. Here's my take that I was referring.

[C]

To.

[A]

Yeah. I walked into your apartment, I.

[C]

Stopped listening to you about that. Like, I'm not trying.

[A]

To. I thought this is about.

[C]

Friendship. Yeah, it is. And you saying that you don't like that I got fake plants in my apartment is none of your anyone else's.

[A]

Business. That's just.

[C]

Offensive. It's a fake tree. I would.

[A]

Kill. Stolen.

[B]

Valor. Sorry. Not everybody has the time and.

[A]

Resources.

They breathe in carbon dioxide. They breathe.

[C]

Out. I don't remember to water and feed myself. So I just want the aesthetic of it until I'm an adult that knows how the dirt.

[A]

Works. Get a drawing. Put a drawing of a plant on a.

[C]

Wall. The thing was dandelion head. Did I get it or no? Hey, wait, really? You didn't even say.

[A]

That. I feel bad about how I've insulted.

[C]

Aesthetic. I don't want it. My.

[A]

What? Your.

[B]

Aesthetic. My.

[C]

What?

[A]

Aesthetic? Your.

[C]

Major. What does that even.

[A]

Mean? What did you mean? Like you put it in your living room? I'd feel like, yeah, because you guys were coming.

[C]

Over. I wanted it to look like people lived here. We have nothing hanging on the walls. We play video games all.

[A]

Day. I think that fake plants are.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, he doesn't mean that. He's just fine. I Look, it's a means to an end. I deserve to look at a plant, and that's the plant I look at. Thank you for your card, Mina. Pablo, it's been nice being your.

[A]

Friend. Is it my.

[C]

Turn? I think so. All right, it's gotten tense in here. Gotten tense? I just want to remind you guys I love you and I'm not being paid to be.

[B]

Here. So another four.

[C]

Star. Oh yeah, let me flip mine another four. Okay, Nina and I have to.

[B]

Agree. This should be.

[C]

Easy. 4.

[A]

Stars. It should be easy, but the category is.

[C]

Book. I was hoping since this came up in the example, it would never come up again. I do know of one book we've both read recently. I don't know if our opinions on it are the.

[B]

Same. My books are on public display every day. If you can think of a single one of the books on my shelf, it's a four star book at.

[A]

Least. American.

[C]

Canto. Oh, that's five stars. Everyone's saying the book about.

[B]

Nothing. Is that, Is that your.

[A]

Choice? No.

[C]

No. He's running.

[A]

Bits. God, a book. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold.

[C]

On. I.

[B]

Wonder. What, what's the.

[A]

Book? You guys in a book club together? Is that why you.

[C]

Read? No, no, I just. She mentioned it and I was like, oh, I read.

[B]

That. I bet I know what it.

[C]

Is. I wish we could do TV show. Can you dig through the pile till you get to TV.

[A]

Show? Just looking at the pile of books of your.

[B]

Books. You're literally looking at non fiction books in this studio. I.

[C]

Know. Turf wars by demora Smith is my four star.

[B]

Book. A hundred.

[C]

Percent. Oh, is that Chris Hayes's the Sirens.

[B]

Call? Oh, Nate Silver, sign me up.

Have you ever noticed a single one of the.

[A]

Books? I'm gonna be honest with you.

[C]

Guys. No, that would be.

[A]

Nuts. Absolutely.

[C]

Not. Yeah, no, there's no.

[A]

Chance. Every year.

All the books I've read and I'm.

[C]

Yo.

[A]

When. I'm gonna scroll right past.

[C]

This. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Books.

[C]

Okay. Hey, you know what.

[B]

Pablo? Name a book. Go ahead.

[A]

Describe. Oh, you know, okay, here we go, here we go. Here's a book that everybody.

[C]

Likes. Okay, but that's four stars. You better hope I don't love.

[A]

It.

[C]

Babar. I don't think that was the name of the.

[A]

Book. It wasn't.

[C]

Was. It wasn't. That's like saying the Berenstein Bears. It's like, yeah, isn't that a.

[B]

Series? I also didn't grow up with Babar, so you don't get my card right.

[C]

Away. Hiding it not a Babar house. Yeah, I don't. I don't really remember a lot about Babar. I remember liking him. I can't even picture him right now from being.

[B]

Dead. Four stars is a.

[C]

Lot. Four stars is. Is a lot. We did say it was in the water system and I feel like I'm losing Pablo as a friend, to be.

[A]

Honest. What books did you guys grow up being like? That's a. Okay. Oh, sorry for not being gendered in.

[C]

My. Don't do this. Don't do.

[A]

This. Eloise. You wanted some Eloise, I want you to throw some.

[C]

Eloise. No, she's too elitist for me. At the.

[A]

Plaza. She lives at the.

[C]

Plaza. My.

[B]

Goodness.

[A]

Yeah. What book did you guys.

[C]

Read? We didn't read it together. Pablo. We are just two adults who both read a popular book. It would happen more often if you picked one up. It was Tomorrow and Tomorrow and.

[B]

Tomorrow. That. Yeah, great.

[C]

Book. It was.

[B]

Good. Yeah. I thought you were gonna say martyr because I was just talking about.

[C]

Martyr. Okay, wait, we don't keep. You.

[B]

Kept. You kept yours? No, I put it back in the bio. He didn't get.

The Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow. The name of takes place at Harvard.

It's about a pair of game designers who meet and. It's beautiful. You should read it. It's a really fun.

[C]

Book.

Jesus.

[E]

Pablo. So.

[C]

Smart. So smart. Anti.

[A]

Book. I just woke.

[C]

Up. What's up? Mina's.

[B]

Turn. Sorry, my 15 second description of a book was.

[D]

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What do you think makes the perfect.

[E]

Snack? Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's.

[B]

Convenient. Could you be more specific when it's.

[C]

Cravenient.

[E]

Okay. Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am, pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at am.

[B]

Pm. I'm seeing a pattern.

[E]

Here. Well, yeah, we're talking about what.

[B]

I crave, which is anything from am.

[E]

Pm. What more could you want? Stop by A and PM where the snack, snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's Cravenience ampm. Too much. Good.

[B]

Stuff.

Oh, this is a good.

[A]

Category.

[C]

Finally. Pablo has five stars. Katie has two.

[B]

Stars. Okay, I got, I got a good.

[A]

One. What am I.

[B]

Into? Fight. I got a good one.

[C]

Here.

[B]

Okay. What is.

[C]

It? Oh, animal. Okay, so Pablo's gotta love this animal and I, good luck. Have to give it two.

[B]

Stars.

My animal is.

I know one that he.

[A]

Loves.

[B]

Yeah.

But I'm worried it'll be too high for.

[C]

You. I mean, that's, it's. I'm not having a hard time thinking of an animal. I have two stars about right. I like most of.

[B]

Them. Most.

[C]

Animals. Most of them rule.

[B]

So. So it's like I gotta think of an animal that you'd be like if you saw it and you'd be like, I could take it or leave it. That he would find interesting. Or should I just try to get his card? Probably. Yeah. All right. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with a killer whale.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, that's obvious. You have to. You can't.

[A]

Not. I went, I went whale.

[C]

Off. I think she said killer. I know what she's trying to.

[A]

Do. Oh.

[B]

God. I was leading the.

[C]

Witness. Trying to.

[B]

Do. I was. I didn't say orca for a.

[C]

Reason. Which is like I can't love a predator. A.

[A]

Predator. An apex predator.

[C]

Actually. I hate an apex predator, but I don't hate cuz it's an animal. So I'd go a step above and go like, well, I still love it and I, I think it would end up at three stars of our being, like.

[A]

Fully. Oh, now, now, now we're in the.

[C]

Game. But she's kicking our ass. There's no we're not coming.

[B]

Back. Listen, it was a risk. We are the Free Willy.

[C]

Generation. Yeah. And I. And listen to me. I loved Free Willy. I fixated on Free.

[A]

Willy. What does that.

[C]

Mean? Like, you know when.

[A]

You. You want it to be standing there.

[C]

Underneath? Do you know when you. This might just be like an add thing. I don't know. But it. Like when you like a song and then you just listen to that.

[B]

Song. Oh, my God. Like, a lot. The Free Willy soundtrack is one of the greatest.

[C]

Soundtracks. That was like, probably my first interaction on my own with Michael Jackson. And I remember going like this.

[A]

Song. Talk about the.

[C]

Change. The key change at the end. I'm like, I'm.

[B]

Ascending. Hold me. Okay. Free Willy story quickly. I saw that in the. What year did that come.

[C]

Out? I was like, I would say 96.

[A]

98. I was like 10 or.

[B]

11. So I saw that in the theaters with my whole family. When the kid, spoiler alert. Stands up, lifts his arm, and Free Willy jumps over to freedom Sunmankind. I realized I've been blowing up my family a lot. On this podcast, Sunman Kyme shout out in a packed theater. Stood.

[C]

Up. Oh, my.

[B]

God. And gave a standing ovation. I've never been more embarrassed than I was in my.

[C]

Life.

[B]

Amazing. And no one joined her. She just did it by.

[A]

Herself. That's a six star.

[C]

Animal. I wish she would have put her in her first up at the.

[A]

End. Oh.

[C]

God.

[A]

Beautiful. Given that I've. I mean, so just to recap. So Mina's mom has stood up and clapped during Free Willy. Mina has stood up and clapped during Draft.

[B]

Day. Yes. Oh, yeah, we are. Yeah, we did do that. I didn't actually stand up and clap. I. I didn't. I, I let it. I let a chant, which is.

[A]

Different, like, because you.

[B]

Saw. Why is this.

[C]

Written? Why do I have a weird one that's written by.

[B]

Hand? That must be like a. I hate.

[C]

It. This looks like a. This looks like a ransom note. It just says.

[A]

Substance.

[C]

Ooh. Okay. Written by hand. So this must be when you buy the deck, which you can do now. If you go to. Then you write in. You can write in your.

[A]

Own. So I have a three star.

[B]

Card. You have three star.

[C]

Okay. And you have a one star card for.

[B]

Substance. Substance. This.

[C]

Sucks. All right. A substance. Something that you want to come to mind really against. Really not into. And you are like, you could do with it. You could do without.

[A]

It. Like, I'm on Yelp and I'm like, I guess I'll do this. Substance. But I've been scrolling for a.

[C]

Bit, but as far as substances go, not at the.

[A]

Top. Wouldn't be my first choice. Or third page of the search.

[C]

Results. Three if you had five pages.

And.

[B]

One. A lot of things gross me out, so I know. You can grab.

[C]

One. I know it's right here for you.

All.

[A]

Right. So hard to gross me out. I think. It's pretty hard to gross me out, I.

[B]

Think. Yeah. So I think this is. You can get. You can get both of ours here. I believe in.

[C]

You. I mean, I had.

[B]

One. I.

[C]

Know. I was.

[B]

Thinking. You can't say it. I know, but you can't.

[C]

Say. It would.

[A]

Be. You can't say.

[B]

It.

[C]

Katie. It would be. I'd say three stars for Pablo. Because he's happy it's there. He's happy it's there. The getting there is what he liked. Okay. But now that it's there, he does have to clean it up. And you would give it one star because it's. You're only ever. You're not. It's not the point. You know, it's not what you were looking for. But it does mean you got what you wanted. I guess. But technically. So I would have said. But I'm.

[B]

Insistent. You didn't have to actually say it. We all knew what you were talking.

[A]

About. I just gave you my.

[C]

Card. I'm just.

[B]

Gonna. You've put me in a really.

[C]

Difficult situation here, so let's not keep your card, okay? Keep your card. Cut it out. Okay. We all love jizz. Male loneliness epidemic.

[B]

Please. There's nothing I can say about.

[C]

This. I know. Good or bad substance, so I'm gonna.

[A]

Say.

[B]

Goo. Just.

[C]

Goo.

[A]

Goo. Like slime, like kids.

[C]

Slime. No, because I would have said slime like.

[A]

Kids. Are you talking about.

[C]

Gak? It's.

[B]

Goo. I mean. Yeah. I don't like.

[C]

That. And you don't hate.

[B]

It.

Goo. When I think of goo, I'm thinking about, like.

[A]

Those. Remember those when you're like. You go to a store and you can get, like, a hand made of, like, slime and just.

[B]

Like. Yeah.

[C]

I. That's.

[B]

Gooey. Have many of those in my house at this moment. And they are they. The way they pick up dirt and lint. It took, like, dog hair one day. They're.

[C]

Disgusting.

[B]

Yeah. I think of, like, when you get on a plane and you're like. And then you look, and on the side of your. See, there's like.

[A]

Gum. I even know my.

[C]

Position. Errant hair gel that's, like, dangling, but not In a Something About Mary 3c. I could just see you let going like no, I don't hate. There's good.

[A]

Goo. Here's why I'm going to keep this.

[C]

Card.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

Okay. Cuz you're a.

[A]

Hater. It's because the thing I hate more than anything, my true zero star substance is just.

[B]

Gum. Yeah.

[A]

Really. And the reason is because as people in this studio have heard me say before I used to run my hands underneath the desk at.

[C]

School. Did I leave gum at your desk seat when I did your with your daughter? I may.

[B]

Have. You.

[C]

Do. I'm just. That was me just remembering that I may have left under your side of the table. No, if there was gum there, it was me. Cuz I think I said remind me and then I forgot completely. I'm sticking my gum under your table. But I'll remember and I'll take it when I leave. We're both.

[D]

Children. Why.

[B]

Would. Why would you do that in the first.

[C]

Place? Because I had to. I was recording. There was no trash.

[A]

Anywhere. It's in.

[C]

There. Yeah, that's.

[B]

Mine. Wait.

[A]

What? That's disgusting. Katie, what the.

[B]

Hell? What is wrong with.

[A]

You? Hell.

[C]

Yeah.

I had to go. Listen, your daughter getting a child to sit. Getting a. Getting a.

[E]

Child. Why did you getting a child.

[C]

To sit and be ready. Because getting a child to sit and be ready to record was hard enough. When she was finally ready, I didn't want to go. Let me get the trash. So I went. I'm putting this. I said out loud. I'm putting this under the table. Remind me to get it later. And I never got it. And I just realized it while.

[A]

You were talking about.

[B]

It.

You're like an eight year old character in a children's book who does.

[C]

This. No, I know. Isn't that.

[A]

Awesome? You do this in my man, my.

[C]

Studio? Yeah, dude.

[B]

Yeah. That's.

[C]

Gross. Sick. I'll get it before I.

[B]

Leave. Let's get back to.

[C]

It. You need me to get it.

[A]

Now or you can't go on? I think you.

[C]

Should. You need me to get it now or you can't go.

[B]

On. When did you do.

[C]

This? When Was your.

[A]

Birthday?

September.

[B]

20Th. You.

[C]

What?

What an.

[B]

Ins. This game was supposed to bring us together with a.

[A]

Hand. With a.

[B]

Hand. My gum. Oh.

[C]

God. You guys are.

[B]

Freaks. What were the.

[A]

Freaks? Where are.

[C]

The. You guys are.

[B]

Nuts. It's.

[C]

Just. You put it in your.

[B]

Hand.

[C]

What? Why is anyone touching.

[B]

This? Somebody get a.

[C]

Napkin. Patrick just guys the inside of my mouth. Contrary to popular belief, not a trash heap. Okay. God, that made my dad can't believe that. Oh, my God. I'm like. I'm.

[A]

Like. You know what? You know what? I knew something was off.

[C]

Yeah. And to be clear, it was hidden in, like, behind a thing that you would.

[B]

Never. What are you clarifying? How does that make it.

[C]

Better? I didn't put it, like, right under where your hands would be. I put it way.

[A]

Away. That's how it.

[C]

Starts. I just forgot. I'm sorry. And I forgot and I meant to come back for it and look, as soon as we remembered it was there, I got it. What's the problem? Nobody was under there. I don't see. I really don't see what the problem.

[A]

Is. What did we. What did.

[C]

We. What would you have done? What would you have rather I do? Swallow it? Have it in there for seven.

[A]

Years? No.

[C]

Way. I had to just put it. I meant to get it and I forgot. Go. Do you want to keep playing your.

[A]

Game? What did we find out.

[C]

Today?

I wanted to.

[A]

Say.

And if you had, all of this would have been avoided.

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Snack? Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's.

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Convenient. Could you be more.

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