Share & Tell & Moan, with Elle Duncan and Katie Nolan

Summary

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Episode: Share & Tell & Moan, with Elle Duncan and Katie Nolan
Date: May 24, 2024
Guests: Elle Duncan, Katie Nolan
Main Theme:
A wildly funny, freewheeling “Share & Tell” episode featuring broadcast stars Elle Duncan and Katie Nolan alongside Pablo Torre. The trio riff on everything from body image and fashion woes, to a viral NBA press conference “sex noise” mystery, to what it’s actually like to meet Kim Kardashian backstage, the legacy of boy bands, and the relentless weirdness of the attention economy.

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Episode Overview

This episode revolves around three friends (Pablo, Elle, and Katie) diving into a mix of topical mysteries and personal stories, highlighted by Pablo’s “investigation” into a now-infamous moan heard during a Mavericks’ postgame press conference, playful banter about fashion and pop culture, and candid takes on life in the spotlight.

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1. Body Image, Fashion, and ’90s Nostalgia

Timestamps: 00:26–05:12

• The episode kicks off with Elle and Katie talking candidly about "hip dips," body acceptance, and why drop-waisted dresses are a fashion nightmare.
  • Elle on body acceptance: “I’m 41 years old. I’ve learned to embrace my body, but there are some things I have to run from. There are some silhouettes that it’s like, that ain’t me.” [01:29]
  • Elle shares about her breast reduction and the joy of being able to wear certain tops (Charlotte Russe handkerchief tops) for the first time.
  • Katie embraces the perks and struggles of being on the slender end.
• Abercrombie Jeans: Discussion about Abercrombie’s rebrand and high school memories of why it was the “easiest place to steal from.”
  • “They were just there to be hot, gorgeous. A bunch of gronks patrolling.” – Katie [04:09]

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2. The Mavericks’ Moan Investigation

Timestamps: 05:15–19:04

• Setting the Scene:
  • Pablo introduces his recent “investigation” into a mysterious, pornographic moan heard during a postgame presser with Luka Doncic. He plays the clip for Elle and Katie.
• Initial Theories:
  • All agree: It sounded like someone was playing porn.
    • “There was sex noises happening.” – Katie [06:11]
    • “Nobody ever has sex—even good sex—and it’s like [that].” – Katie [06:28]
  • Pablo notes the internet’s leading theory: A media member accidentally let their laptop or phone broadcast porn audio.
  • Pablo also references the infamous Jeffrey Toobin incident for comparison, and relates an anecdote of Amin Elhassan being caught with porn open “for research.”
• Pablo’s Sleuthing:
  • After contacting league sources, Pablo’s told the sound wasn’t from media, but likely a Mavericks player pranking Luka.
    • “The call… the moan was coming from inside the house… a Mavericks player, a teammate of Luka trying to mess with him.” – Pablo [08:42]
  • In Europe, the group says, it’s apparently a common prank to set someone’s ringtone to a porn moan and call them during a press conference.
  • Pablo pins “suspects” within the team (PJ Washington or Derrick Jones Jr.) with caveats about irresponsibly speculating.
• Shocking New Theory:
  • “The twist is this was not a phone… This was the player(s) making the sounds themselves.” – Pablo [10:11]
  • Elle and Katie: No chance, sounds too feminine, not “a man imitating a woman.”
  • [10:31–11:42] The moan is replayed, with the group cringing and debating authenticity.
  • ESPN’s Tim McMahon is mentioned as the journalist on audio, and Elle details her working theory about accidental Bluetooth connection/broadcast of porn.

Memorable Moment:

• Pablo, Katie, and Elle all attempt, with hilarious embarrassment, to imitate the moan to test plausibility.
  • “You sound like a dying dolphin.” – Katie to Pablo [15:35]
  • “That was a woman. So unless they got a female staffer, that was actual porn that they were playing.” – Elle [16:45]
• Studio producer “Cortez” is pressured to try as well (“Absolutely not.” – Cortez [15:53]; “His was better than yours.” – Elle [16:43])
• The consensus: still unresolved; strong suspicion it was actual porn audio, likely played as a prank.

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3. Share & Tell: Real-World Bluetooth Porn Disasters

Timestamps: 18:00–20:03

• Katie shares her own, now legendary, “Bluetooth porn in the shower” story involving her partner Dan.
  • She’s showering, music suddenly becomes loud porn sounds via a shared Bluetooth speaker—Dan had forgotten to disconnect and panickedly cranked the volume up, making it worse.
  • “He comes around the corner and he goes, ‘Hey... I opened an email.’” – Katie [19:43]

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4. Meeting Kim Kardashian Backstage

Timestamps: 20:03–26:41

• Elle details what it was like to meet Kim Kardashian at the Disney “upfronts” with colleagues:
  • Kim was surprisingly pleasant, engaging in “kissy-face” selfie poses. Elle appreciated Kim ditching heels for flip-flops post-show: “Thank you, sister.” [24:54]
• Starstruck and Surreal:
  • “She does, I think, sit atop the world rankings of people that I might encounter who don’t feel like real humans to me.” —Pablo [25:25]
  • Kim unknowingly shared stories about her daughter’s basketball journey with Hall of Famer Dawn Staley without realizing who Dawn was, leading to a moment of sports celebrity magic and obliviousness.

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5. Reality Fame, the Kardashian Legacy, and Modern Attention

Timestamps: 26:41–32:56

• Pablo’s Read on Kim:
  • “She is the apex predator of the food chain. Everybody is trying to be like her.” – Pablo [26:55]
  • The group debates the “talent” versus the business of attention, and how the Kardashian model defines today’s influencer/economic system.
  • Katie: “I resent that game... people whose whole thing is to be looked at everywhere they go, but don’t… [say] here’s something important… just 'keep looking'.” [28:41–29:38]
• On Resilience:
  • Kim took being booed at the Tom Brady roast in stride; group marvels at her “elephant skin” and ability to thrive under scrutiny.
  • “Most people just melt. And Kim Kardashian is like, ‘Hey, would you mind pointing every conceivable spotlight at me—and I’ll actually be more powerful because of it.’ That’s what I’m really impressed by.” —Pablo [31:44]

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6. Boy Bands, NSYNC, and the Pain of Nostalgia

Timestamps: 32:56–43:45

• The group considers recent attempts at nostalgia-driven reunions—particularly NSYNC—and why they no longer “hit the same.”
  • “It just was like so fricking cringy to watch these 60-year-old men in matching bedazzled suits still trying to hit moves.” – Elle [37:01]
  • “Boy bands are very of a time... If you want that feeling, go back and listen to their old music.” – Katie [36:13]
• Memories of adolescence, the boy band craze, and the changing meaning of pop stardom.
• Deep dive into NSYNC and Backstreet Boys’ member personalities, with sidebars on the “Britney memoir code switching” Justin Timberlake story, and hilarious recollections of outrageous 2000s fashion (Von Dutch, Ed Hardy) and choreography.
• Pablo gets the last word on NSYNC reunions: “When I talk about the dynamic between those guys, those five guys, as if they’re like a sports team… the question of like, does Justin Timberlake need it? Is secondary to the idea of how badly does Chris Kirkpatrick [need it]?” [42:15]

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7. Rapid-Fire Takeaways & Running Jokes

Timestamps: 43:45–end

• "What did we find out today?" Roundtable:
  • “I found out that Pablo moans weird.” – Katie [43:59]
  • “I learned that Katie and Dan have a very relatable relationship… I’ll never look at those Bluetooth shower heads again.” – Elle [44:14]
  • They again push for Pablo to make Mavericks players imitate the moan for true forensic analysis (“You gotta go make them…” – Katie [45:01])
  • Spirals into a final round of attempted moans and irrepressible laughter. (“You sound weird when you have sex.” – Katie [44:51])

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Notable Quotes

• On NBA Press Conference Pranks:

  • “The call—the moan was coming from inside the house.” – Pablo [08:42]

• On Attention and the Kardashians:

  • “She is the apex predator of the food chain. Everybody is trying to be like her.” – Pablo [26:55]
  • “Most people just melt. And Kim Kardashian is like, ‘Hey, would you mind pointing every conceivable spotlight at me?’” – Pablo [31:44]
  • “They can do that. And they are winning that.” – Katie [28:41]

• On Boy Band Nostalgia:

  • “Boy bands are very of a time… If you want that feeling, go back and listen to their old music.” – Katie [36:13]
  • “It just was like so fricking cringy to watch these 60-year-old men in matching bedazzled suits still trying to hit moves.” – Elle [37:01]

• On the Joy and Pain of ’90s/’00s Culture:

  • “Remember the Von Dutch era? Ed Hardy? Bedazzled jeans? Yikes.” – Katie [41:33]
  • "He always just kind of looked like the template, you know, it's like. And then you make the man on top of it. But they forgot to keep going." – Katie on Howie from Backstreet Boys [43:19]

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Memorable Moments & Humor

• Pablo getting roasted repeatedly for his falsetto moan: “You sound like a dying dolphin.” [15:35]
• The “Bluetooth porn” fiasco in the shower retold by Katie: “He comes around the corner and goes, ‘Hey. I opened an email.’” [19:43]
• Elle’s comparison of NSYNC reunion attempts to watching aged performers: “It just was like so fricking cringy to watch these 60-year-old men in matching bedazzled suits…” [37:01]
• Studio producer Cortez being pestered to moan on mic—and refusing [15:53]

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Summary:

This episode is a rollercoaster of unfiltered laughter, spot-on cultural commentary, and deeply relatable stories. Whether it’s investigating NBA locker room pranks, sharing secondhand embarrassment about Bluetooth speaker mishaps, dissecting the pseudo-immortality of reality stars, or confessing one’s complicated feelings about boy band reunions, Pablo, Elle, and Katie create a space that’s both analytically sharp and heartwarmingly silly. Fans of sports, pop culture, or simply good, honest friendship will find plenty to love—and, probably, will never listen to a press conference “moan” or use a Bluetooth shower speaker quite the same way again.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is right after this ad.

[B]

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network.

[C]

What are hip dips? Is that when it goes out and then straight?

[B]

Yeah, it's when you come down.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You go out, you go back in. You go back out at the thigh. So I do have a hip dip, which is fine. Like I've learned to embrace and love my hip dips.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But they're not that cute on. So I do a lot of like, like I'll twist contour to like push.

[C]

Your hip up thing. Exactly.

[B]

You do like a little bit of that.

[C]

If you don't have a butt, it also. That also works. If you don't have like a good butt, that. That's a good. Oh, is it like you do. I got a lot of abs. I know. I'm saying for the. For those of us who are like, I don't have to worry about hip dips cuz it never really goes out again. You can do the little pop.

[A]

I'm just nodding like a scientist. People who are not watching on YouTube or the draft.

[C]

And we all know it.

[B]

You got a booty, Pablo?

[C]

I don't know his calves. He's got lower booty.

[A]

Guys, this isn't about me.

[C]

I like yours. Yours is nice.

[B]

Thank you, Katie. I like your body. You know what? You've got one.

[C]

You've got a.

[B]

You've got a body that literally don't quit.

[C]

Just kidding. I quit all the time.

[B]

You got a body that you can wear literally anything.

[C]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[B]

You do. No, you do.

[C]

I.

[B]

And I listen again. I'm 41 years old. I've learned to embrace my body, but there are some things I have to run from. There are some silhouettes that it's like, that ain't me.

[A]

What are you running from, Elle?

[C]

Anything.

[B]

Drop waist.

[C]

A drop. Waste's ugly. Sorry. I'm so sorry.

[B]

Yes, but you could wear that if I wanted to.

[C]

Apologizing to anybody who wore a drop. Genuinely. A drop. Wasted wedding dress. Any woman who wore a drop waisted wedding dress, I felt immediately like she would go, but that was my favorite dress. It looks good on some.

[A]

I hate it.

[C]

Have you seen the new one that has the waist that goes correct?

[A]

What is a drop waisted anything?

[C]

It's a waist that's lower than it should be. Yeah. So you know an empire waist is like a higher waist on the dress.

[A]

Obviously.

[C]

I Knew that, right? And then this is your natural waistline. A drop waist is like around your hips. And then the skirt happens. It's a mess.

[B]

You, you have to be built.

[A]

Longer torso.

[C]

You want a longer torsoever wants to elongate their torso.

[B]

I don't know. So I was historically very large chested growing up. I was a triple D by the time I was in the seventh grade.

[C]

Dam.

[B]

And so my graduation present to myself was a breast reduction. And I'll never forget going to charlotte russe for the first time after I had my new little bee titties and just being so excited to wear all of those little tiny charlotte russe tops without a bra. Because that's all I wanted, like, in my whole life is to just be free.

[C]

Meanwhile, the opposite end of the spectrum. We're like dying to wear a bra. Like, get up, get bigger boost. Come on. And you're like, I just want to be free.

[B]

I want to be flat chested and I want to wear these handkerchief shirts.

[C]

Oh, yeah, those handkerchief shirts. You really could not have boobs with those.

[B]

No, you had to be flat chested.

[C]

Because it looked wild. Yeah, you had to be flat chested. So we did have perks. They weren't perky, but we did have perks. I'm telling you, man, that body, you.

[B]

Can wear it all, babe.

[C]

And speaking of curvy and wanting to wear, like, bigger clothes. They do. Believe it or not. Abercrombie does like a curvy baggy jean for like a curvy girl that you should. Yeah, yeah. Apparently there's rave reviews. Not for me, because I wish I was curvy. I would kill to be curvy. But people who are curvy are like that. These jeans are awesome.

[B]

Abercrombie did a full rebrand. These are Abercrombie. They're super cute.

[C]

They're like made out of real jean. Nothing else is made out of denim anymore. Now it's always this, like, cheap. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Super stretchy. Abercrombie will always be the place that my friend in high school always wanted to go to because she said they were the easiest place to steal from.

[C]

True. What made them market. But skin market didn't last very long.

[A]

What made Abercrombie easy to steal from?

[B]

She could get the security tags off the easiest, I think. And so we would go.

[C]

And the dumbest employees because they didn't know they were just there to be.

[A]

Hot, gorgeous, A bunch of gronks patrolling.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

And honestly, most of the jeans, at least back when I was in high school, already looked dirty. So if you could get the security tag off, you could walk, walk out with them. And you looked like you were wearing dirty, washed over, worn jeans. They didn't look new. Anyway, so she would go into the dressing room and, you know, come out, everything would be fine. We'd get to the car and she would just start disrobing and just pulling Abercrombie jeans out of like all her orifices. Yes. I'm like, when did you do this? And yeah, it was. It was a hot spot for stealing.

[C]

Sick. Don't steal kids.

[B]

It's bad. And don't do it unless you have to.

[A]

If there's anything that I found out today, it's don't steal from Abercrombie and Fitch in 2020.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, she thought you were asking what year it is.

[B]

I was like, Pablo, are you good? Pablo, it's 2020.

[A]

I also like Gronk today.

[C]

Yeah, 99.

[A]

Little neurologically out of it. 99.

[C]

What a year. I think I was frequenting Delias in 99.

[B]

Delia's.

[C]

Sorry, Pablo, did you want to do a podcast?

[B]

Should we do that?

[A]

I guess so. I've been doing an investigation, guys, that I want to.

[C]

Somebody had to.

[A]

I got so many tweets about this. Like, my niche now is. Okay, the Dallas Mavericks win game two of the Western Conference.

[B]

I know where you're going.

[A]

Semifinals, they beat the Clippers. They're now obviously playing in the conference finals against the T Wolves. But at the post game presser, Luka Doncic sits down and he takes questions and this happens.

[B]

We were open shots, so just are sharing the ball and our energy was great.

[C]

What do you think? Okay.

[A]

Okay, moving on. So if you could not discern from the audio, maybe if you're just listening on the podcast, what do you. How would you guys describe what happened there?

[C]

There was sex noises happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Porn. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Somebody was playing porn. Or nearby having pretty mind blowing sex. Yeah. Because if you were doing it in public, that would be. And to make that much noise, it would have to be quite an experience.

[B]

I was going to say, like, whatever. No, no, no, no. Nobody's ever done that and meant it. I'm sorry. Nobody ever has sex. Even good sex. And it's like.

[C]

No, it's not strictly porn stream. Not a constant stream of moaning. Unless you're trying to fill a silence or something.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Which in that situation, you wouldn't. I. Yeah, that's definitely. It's porn.

[B]

It's porn.

[C]

It's probably porn. So the pornography. A pornographic film.

[A]

The clubhouse leader, of course, was. This was a media member, of course. Like the zoom air we've all seen, you know?

[C]

Yeah. What's his face's penis.

[A]

Yep. That guy. Exactly. That guy's penis. Jeffrey Tubin.

[C]

It's a very funny name.

[A]

Very on the nose. Yeah, like a put your tube in your pants character name for an adult story. So it was a media member, was the reigning theory. And there are some suspects in that. I mean, literally. Amin Elhassan once had porn on his computer when he was being interviewed, I think by Kevin O', Connor, like, @ a courtside post game thing. And I mean, had to close his laptop. In my defense, we were doing research for a movie that involved a certain adult film actress. And so I was.

[C]

What are you doing?

[A]

You left your computer earlier. What are you doing?

[C]

I mean, that.

[A]

Hold on. That was hours ago. That was seven hours ago. I swear to God. It was researched. I swear to God, Zach. You know what we did koc just catch you watching porn?

[C]

I mean.

[A]

I mean, I don't know what you're talking about, so. Sorry, Amin, But I can tell you that it was not amino acid.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

This is where my investigation starts with this. You. He says no. So I begin to reach out to four different sources.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

So I'm trying to get to the. I'm taking this seriously, okay? This is what I do on the show. I find out in ways that are taking serious things stupidly and stupid things seriously.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

In this case, it's kind of. Kind of felt like both. A league source told us that it was not a media member.

[C]

So they know who it is.

[A]

Well, what they said in so many words, is that the call, the. The moan was coming from inside the house.

[C]

Meaning.

[A]

Meaning this was not a media member, but a Mavericks player, a teammate of Luka Doncic, trying to mess with him.

[C]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

By playing it off their phone. And so I guess in Europe, this is a thing. A common prank is like, this is apparently a thing where, like, you change someone's ringtone to sex sounds and you call them mid press conference, and they're like, was this something like that and passcodes? Yeah, it's a very tight locker room. Apparently. Another source indicated this was multiple players, not just one, I guess, which is kind of like in, you know, like a. I. I felt like that was them deflecting. Like it was all of us. Like an I am Spartacus situation. They're all standing up. This was me. And so I Look at the Mavericks roster. I'm like, okay, who on this list of players would be doing this? And I personally was rooting for a guy whose name is Alex Fudge. But okay, no one corroborated that. That was just the hope I had. But then talking to sources who know the team based on personality profiles and so forth, their guest, their educated guess was that this was either. And this is where I get a bit irresponsible, because now I'm just, like, putting guys on blast, hypothetically, right?

[C]

Not really confirmed.

[A]

All caveats apply here.

[C]

Yeah, nobody's going to care. They'll clip it without that part.

[A]

I am not saying that it's definitely PJ Washington or Derrick Jones Jr. But they are suspects in this case. But the big twist, the new theory.

[C]

Into this, the reverse cowgirl, if you.

[A]

Will, the twist is that this was not a phone. This was not a video. This was the player parentheses s making the sounds themselves.

[B]

0 chance. 0 chance. 0 chance.

[C]

Play it again.

[A]

Play it again.

[C]

All right, play it again. Nah, man.

[B]

We were open shot, so just started sharing the ball and our energy was great.

[C]

What do you think?

[A]

Okay, moving on.

[C]

I mean, every time I hear it, every time I hear it, my soul. I relate to the poor guy who was talking and tries to moving. Okay. Well, it's like, it makes him seem like it was his. Like, his fault.

[A]

Let's jack that volume up and let's play it again.

[B]

We were open shot, so just are sharing the ball and our energy was great.

[C]

What do you think? Okay.

[A]

Okay, moving on.

[C]

His face is so funny.

[B]

So I know the guy that said that. Okay, moving on. That's Tim McMahon.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That'S Tim McMahon, the ESPN reporter. And so after that happened, he joined a sports under. And, you know, you, like, check mics ahead of time and stuff before you go on air. And I was like. I was like. Can I tell you my working theory on what happened? He was like, yeah, tell me. I was like, I think that someone that works at the Mavs who's, you know, sometimes your Bluetooth, if you've used it before, automatically connects to speakers. I think he's in the back, right? I think he's in the back. I think he's watching a little porn because, like, he doesn't care about this press conference, like, whatever. And it accidentally goes over the Bluetooth speakers. He realizes, oh, my God, he fumbles with it. He presses off. Tim McMahon. Now, this was a week ago, Pablo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tim McMahon said exactly what you just said. He said he thinks and Was hearing that it was a prank that was played. That they were very intentionally did it to throw Luca off. And that someone, like, tapped into the Bluetooth speaker.

[A]

Oh, but he's on the speaker. The Bluetooth.

[B]

He's still on the speaker. Theory that it was that someone tapped into the speaker, they played the porn to make it uncomfortable, and then they promptly turned it off. I still stand on the fact that some poor, unsuspecting, like, towel boy was, like, in the, like, comms. Kid was, like, in the back thinking he's watching a little innocent.

[C]

I think it's that. But that they had a tab open that they forgot about, and when they opened up their lap, like, it just went. And they were like, yeah, yeah. And tried to get it. Because watching porn at work is weird. Yeah. And don't do it. Yeah.

[A]

Why so much time in the day?

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[C]

I also feel like if you're going to pull a prank. Not that I'm like, a porn audio connoisseur, but I just feel like there's funnier, like, clips of a porn you could play. This is why her saying words.

[B]

This is why I returned to it.

[C]

Being a player.

[A]

Yes. Because this is some. I was talking to Nadir behind the glass over there. Not to put Nadir on blast. Shout out to Nadir, But I was playing this clip for him before the show, and he was like, oh, I used to do that. Not him. Not I. Sorry, Nadir. But kids in our middle school used to do that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, make moaning sex noises. Because that is what boys do.

[B]

That's a female voice. I'm sorry.

[C]

I could see it not being one. But here's what I think you need is the next step of your investigation. You got to get all the mavs to moan.

[A]

Oh, like a police line.

[C]

Yeah. And they all. You have to be like, say. And then they have to do it and see who can hit that specific octave.

[A]

Right.

[C]

See, I.

[B]

It's giving. It's giving woman to me. Like, I feel like I pride myself on being able to do voices and impersonations and. And to imitate people and give us your best one.

[C]

Just real quick as a. To vouch for you journalistically. Just give us your best.

[B]

I mean, I don't.

[C]

Yeah, you pride yourself on it, so just give us your best.

[B]

I know. Go. I also pride myself on not being put on the spot.

[C]

Katie. Okay, we can cut that out. Yeah.

[B]

No, I mean, it's more.

[A]

Or maybe Katie can go first.

[B]

It's more like you have to, like, give me a person. And then, like, let me go.

[C]

I just.

[B]

I'm. I'm definitely not feeling that. That was a man imitating a woman. That was a woman moaning. In fact, Pablo, you're a man.

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

Allegedly.

[A]

I was dreading this.

[C]

Yeah, you try to give us. Try to hit that on the spot. Try to hit Pablo on the spot. I've been trying to back away from the mic.

[A]

I've been trying to speak deeper into my diaphragm.

[C]

Sure. But that's. But for now, so to speak. Go up. And they all.

[B]

Yeah, they're all men that have. These guys are 6 foot 10. They've got these deep voices. You go for it. Try to be her.

[C]

All right, so I'm gonna actually not make eye contact.

[A]

Face the other way.

[C]

Okay, you got it.

[A]

I just want you to know that Metalark HR does not exist. So you cannot get me in trouble for this.

[B]

I'm gonna look at Katie, which is kind of weirder.

[A]

Don't peek.

[C]

Okay. God damn.

[A]

I can't even look at myself. I can't look at myself. I can't look at the glass because everyone's looking at me. Stop waving at me. All right, here we go, here we go, here we go.

[C]

Louder. See, it's loud.

[B]

It's more of a scream.

[C]

You can't.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

It's not falsetto. It's a falsetto. It has to have some. Yeah. Oh, God, I hate it. He's in danger. He. Yeah, he sounds a little more.

[A]

No, that was.

[B]

No, you sound like an animal. That was.

[C]

Don't think it's gonna get better. No.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You sound like a dying dolphin.

[A]

Like a dolphin.

[B]

See, that's not it. I mean. Line all the men up. Y' all can't hit that octave.

[C]

I know that octave.

[B]

Get in here, Cortez.

[C]

Come on into this microphone, hold my.

[B]

Mic, and moan on it.

[C]

Cortez, you can't do it.

[A]

Cortez says, quote. Absolutely not.

[C]

Come on, Cortez.

[A]

Cortez, come in here.

[B]

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Damn. Peer pressure doesn't work.

[C]

Wow. 40s.

[B]

That sucks.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

But you get my point, Pablo. You tried, but, like, it sounded like a man imitating a woman.

[A]

It's a skill.

[C]

Let's go.

[A]

Skill.

[C]

Okay, he's in here.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Arms crossed.

[A]

Can we point every microphone at Cortez? Everybody turn around.

[C]

Okay, okay, wait a second.

[B]

It was better than Pablo's. It was better than Pablo's.

[C]

Okay, wait a second.

[A]

I somehow feel worse and better about myself.

[C]

Yeah, that was not that Was more convincing.

[B]

His was better than yours.

[C]

More convincing.

[B]

But you guys are making my argument. That's not a man pretending to be a woman. That's not. That was a woman. That was a woman. So unless they got a female staffer, that was actual porn that they were playing.

[A]

Or Cortez.

[C]

Or Cortez. Or Cortez was. There could be that. I don't know. I guess I could see it. I could see it. But I'm. I'm un. Ironically, I'm unsatisfied with this conclusion. I feel like I want. I want it to be more like, yeah, it was a person, and it was this person.

[A]

Yeah. I was looking for clues on, like, the Twitter accounts of, like, P.J. washington. Were they, like, sending us signals and stuff?

[C]

Yeah. Nothing.

[B]

So no eggplant emojis or anything? That's what you were looking for?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

During my deep dive and investigation, I was trolling for some eggplant emojis or a peach.

[C]

He had to watch a couple videos to see if he could find that specific clip. If anyone's wondering, the char. His credit card. He was looking for the clip, and he had his eyes closed.

[B]

He was just listening, just trying to see.

[C]

Just trying to listen. Yeah. You know what?

[B]

Next time when you're investigating, see if you can find the exact porn clip. You know, just, like, watch tons of.

[C]

Right, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

Watch tons of it and then just close your eyes and then be like. That's the moan. This is the clip.

[C]

I found it triggering for some of us to hear Bluetooth porn.

[A]

Yeah, we've really just. Do you know this? You know?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

What happened, Dan, is a joke and is special, but is very much based on truth of a time during the pandemic that we. I was showering, getting ready for highly questionable, actually, an HQ from home. And in the shower, I was listening to music and a Bluetooth speaker that he bought me. But because he had linked up with that Bluetooth speaker before his phone accidentally linked up with it while he was watching an adult video. So I am in the shower when.

[A]

He was doing journalism, and all of.

[C]

A sudden, my son. Music became, like, moaning and a lot of like this. And I remember just being like, what the hell? And then I, like, picked it up, and I kind of was realizing what was happening, and I started, like, hitting the volume down button on it to get it to be quiet, but because he was watching it and there was no volume and he was confused, he kept hitting the volume up button. And so it Just kept getting louder, and I felt like I was being bullied. So then I just had to, like, turn the whole thing off. And then I had to, like, finish my shower. And then as I'm about to open the door, I'm like, I just. I don't want to deal with this right now.

[A]

But you knew exactly what was happening.

[C]

I'm like, something. I figured something had happened like that. And so I'm like, I'm going to come out the door, and he's going to just be standing there, and I don't want to have this conversation, and I don't want to, like, make eye contact and talk about it. Like, I just want him to leave me alone. And so I open the door, and he comes around the corner and he goes, hey. Just to, like, see if I realize, because maybe there was a world in which I didn't realize what had happened. Yeah. That world. That was not one we lived in. And he said, hey. And I just, like, looked at him, and he goes, I. I opened an email. Those dreaded porn emails. And I was like, can we do this later? And he was like, yeah, thanks. Cool. Thanks. Cool. Thanks.

[B]

I opened an email.

[C]

I opened an email. Somebody sent me a link.

[B]

It was weird. It was so weird.

[A]

I was watching Al Duncan pose with Kim Kardashian.

[C]

Weren't we all?

[A]

And I don't know how we've waited this long to talk about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So apologies for. For making you talk about this, but what happened?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So we're at Disney upfronts for the people that don't know what that is. It's basically just like this big presentation, you guys know, but it's this big presentation where, you know, Disney's like, look at all the cool. Spend all your money with us. Buy all our ads up, like, whatever. And we had done rehearsal, me, Cheney, Gumaque, and Andrea Carter, because we were going to bring Dawn Staley up the big three.

[C]

Sorry. Just as everybody. The big three.

[B]

So we knew in rehearsal that we were going to be coming off stage, like, right before Kim Kardashian was going on stage. So Andrea, when it was happening in real time, was like, hey, like, let's get a picture with Kim Kardashian. Like, I want to get a picture with Kim K. I was like, all right. So we sort of stalked the backstage. When we got off stage, she couldn't have been nicer. She comes down. She. She had not yet. Because Kim Kardashian, as you can imagine, travels with about 50 people.

[C]

I was gonna say Was she flanked by a ton of. I've never. I don't think I could ever picture her walking alone to go do something.

[A]

Yeah. Where you wandered before you could encounter.

[B]

No, that's why it was shocking because she normally has so many people with her, but they were all waiting. Like, we got her right when she came off stage, so no one was there. And we're like, can we get a picture? She's like, of course. And I'm gonna do my best, Kim K. And so, you know, we take this picture, and then, you know, at first we're like, oh, no. Like, did we do something wrong? And then she's like, let's do a kissy face one. We were like, oh, she's into this. Like, now she wants to, like, do some different poses. Like, this is cool.

[A]

So also, the pressure is kind of on. At least it would be for me.

[B]

Yeah, that's always the awkward thing, right. When you meet someone famous and you take the picture, it's like, how do we end this? Like, how do we.

[C]

Now what?

[A]

How are we disembarking?

[C]

Yeah. Thanks so much. Bye.

[B]

So, Dre.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Appreciate you.

[B]

She seems like a high five type of girl.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So Dre goes, I saw North's video playing basketball, right? I was like, there you go, Dre. Connection point.

[C]

Good, right?

[B]

We're basketball. We're here for basketball. Veteran move.

[C]

Good stuff.

[B]

And, you know, Kim's like, oh, yeah, she loves basketball. And, like, she's really, like, working to. To be better at basketball. And the thing that was, like, hitting me in real time is because when you go to upfronts, it really is just this, like, cacophony of, like, some sports people and movie stars and TV people. And I think we pride ourselves on knowing all of them. There were so many people where I had to look at, like, Dre and Sinead and be like, he's on tv. He stars in this. Like, they didn't know who they were. There's a lot of Googling. But when those groups mix, they are really separate ecosystems. And so when they mix, just watching, the inability to recognize who people are was spectacular. And so as Kim is talking about her daughter, like, wanting to improve and get better at dribbling and stuff like that. Don Staley, who's standing there, of course hall of Famer, is like, I can help her with that. And Kim's like, you can. I was like, oh, she doesn't know. I was like, she doesn't. I was like, she doesn't realize that she Is talking to, like, did somebody.

[C]

Let her know Greatest?

[B]

Probably not, cuz it was just us standing there.

[C]

You can. Yeah.

[A]

What was.

[C]

And what.

[A]

What's Dawn's response to that?

[B]

She's like, sure.

[C]

She was just like, yeah, of course I can. I mean, you're not going to be.

[B]

Like, do you know who I am?

[C]

Do you know who I am?

[B]

That's not Coach Staley at all. So. So. But Kim could not have been nicer. She talked about her son and how he's just like really naturally, like gifted at playing basketball and how her daughter doesn't really like for Kim and Kanye to come to her games because she doesn't love all the attention she wants to focus on.

[A]

I can't imagine why that would.

[B]

Right. And she's like, we totally respect it. She's like, but my son is like, bring it. Bring the camera crews.

[C]

Bring everybody.

[B]

I'm about to show out. And so it was good. It was a really good conversation. And then I. Another veteran savvy move, I think, is that once you sort of have this like, conversation with someone, like, you've got to be the one, as the lesser famous person, you have to be the one to eject. Right. Like you want to quit before they quit you and make it awkward. So after she finished talking for a second, I just kind of jumped in and was like, well, Kim, thank you so much for chatting with us and hopefully one day we're talking about your children on espn, trying to make another connection point. We're not just fans, we are in television.

[C]

We are people that are important. If you were to care, clearly you don't, but, but, but you should.

[B]

We were like, we love skims. I might have thrown out. I'm wearing a skims bra.

[C]

Great.

[B]

Which I was. It was a little fan. Girlish.

[C]

True. So you didn't lie.

[B]

Yeah, skims is cool. But I think the most relatable thing and the thing that I really appreciated about Kim is within seconds of her leaving the stage, she was in a pair of flip flops. Now, they were probably Givenchy or something fancy, but she had taken those heels off and she was in some straight up flip flops. And I was like, yes, sister. Yeah, thank you.

[C]

See, I would think that she of all people would be one of those. You know, people are always like, when you wear heels enough, your feet almost mold to them and get used to them. And so you almost. They're comfortable. They're more comfortable than being flat. I would think that she would just live in a heel.

[B]

Sure. Like her foot has naturally Barbied itself.

[C]

Yes. Yeah. Yes. I picture her exactly with a Barbie foot. When she takes a shoe off, it's like, we stay. It's just like this. Yeah.

[B]

No, she was. She was in flip flops.

[C]

Well, good for her.

[B]

Hair and makeup were all around her by then. But really, really nice. Really, really nice lady.

[A]

She does, I think, sit atop the world rankings of people that I might encounter who don't feel like real humans to me. Like, there are some.

[C]

I'd have to remind myself, while interacting with her that, like, this is a person. Yes. Not an animal at a zoo. Yeah.

[A]

I didn't think I could encounter you in the wild.

[C]

Yeah. You've been. See, I've Seen. Seen you so much that I feel like I'm entitled to knowing you, even though I have no. I've never met you. So meeting somebody like that, you're always like, how do I interact with you? Because I know so much about you, but I know nothing about you. Right, right.

[A]

It's like seeing Joe Biden, like, what, you're here.

[B]

We don't get invited to the White House, Pablo. So that flex is really unnecessary. Do you see him?

[C]

Did you see.

[B]

Do hear this.

[C]

It's like meeting Joe Biden. It's like meeting a president.

[A]

Me and Joe Biden making kissy face photos. Let me tell you the angles that we popped.

[C]

You were wearing his bra as well, and you let him know you said, this is a vitamin.

[A]

His drop waist was magisterium.

[C]

I do also feel like if I'm Kim Kardashian, though. I mean, I've made a lot of different choices in my life, but if I'm Kim Kardashian, being seen as nice is probably the easiest. Sure. Because you just have to smile. Yeah. And make small talk.

[A]

If we would have this conversation 10 years ago, I would have made, like, five jokes about sex tapes. I would have done. I would have laughed in ways that I'm just like. Now I just look at her and I'm like, you are the apex predator of the food chain.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, she is atop the ecosystem. Everybody is trying to be like her. And even if there are reasons to look at Kim Kardashian and her empire and be like, but this is empty and hollow and superficial. It's like. But also, everybody is trying to be you. The influencer economy was premised on Kim Kardashian. And Katie Nolan's making a face.

[C]

Yeah. Because I'm thinking. I'm like, I don't. But I'm trying to critically okay, so look at what you're saying.

[A]

I don't personally.

[C]

You try to be Kim Kardashian. You were the first person I thought of. You are desperately trying to be Kim Kardashian.

[A]

I did leak my own sex, allegedly.

[B]

Oh, no one saw it.

[C]

Yeah. And also no one's rushing to see it.

[A]

Should I take down the paywall?

[B]

Yeah, that's probably a good start.

[C]

I don't think it'll help. You know what?

[B]

Here's the thing from someone who is. And I mean this. I don't wear it, like, as a badge of honor. I just don't care. I have never seen a single episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians. Not in 20 years.

[A]

Okay, but the ways in which we're all trying to do this, reality television. Right. Owning your own content such that you are now able to create franchises, celebrities, selling things using a social media driven audience is literally the game that I think all of us are implicitly playing. Even if we don't want to be considered. Like, in the Kardashian coaching tree, the.

[B]

Idea that they went from sort of, yes, reality stars with sex tapes. The joke was they have no discernible talent. They're just famous for being famous. Whatever. And they've really turned that into lucrative businesses.

[C]

Like, they've turned that into the attention economy.

[A]

Like, they personify that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so the idea. Look, so the criticism of, like, don't have any talent. It's like, okay, so why aren't you them.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Person who's trying to harness attention to capitalistic ends.

[C]

I resent the competition that they're trying to win. I think that's your like, Because I'm trying. I'm like, I don't agree with what you're saying. I don't value them as much as it sounds like you do. But it's because I resent that game. The game of, like, being being looked at versus being seen. Like, I feel like any, you know, people who make their whole thing is just to be looked at everywhere they go, but don't. Once you look at them, they're not like, now that I have your attention, here's something important or here's something that I. That matters to me. It's more just like, no, keep looking, keep looking. Don't look away. I'm over here now look over here. Look over here. Like, that's. They can do that. That and they are winning that. I hate that. That's how it operates. I hate that. It's just about getting us to look at you and that. But I do think they've been done a good job, the Kardashians, of, like, just being famous, punching bags, of just, like, letting people make fun of them.

[A]

That's a great point.

[C]

Relentlessly. Like, in a world where there's barely any monoculture left, they're like one of the last, like, you say Kardashian, and no one goes to who they know who that is, which means that we all have a shared experience, which means they can be. They're one of the few things that we can all make fun of. They're like a cultural reference point, and they just kind of let us do that.

[A]

So the Tom Brady roast, Kim Kardashian goes up there and is booed.

[C]

I know a lot of people make fun of your height. All right, all right. Doing.

[A]

And she seems unbothered in terms of just, like, so. So in the moment, it's like, that must suck. But the idea of being unbothered to the point of, do you think she's going to start showing up to places less.

[C]

No.

[B]

Like, she actually.

[C]

I think after that, showed up to, like, three more places the next day. She's been flying. Yeah. And then did.

[A]

Did the Disney upfronts.

[B]

And the Disney upfronts. Then did the Met gala. Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And so just the idea of that sort of elephant skin of. And I think this is where I relate completely to what Katie is saying is the invitation of, like, look at me, and whatever your gaze is doing, I will find a way to use that to my benefit, even if it feels to you like it's empty and vacuous or whatever. And what I marvel at is most people just melt.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And if I got booed, I would melt.

[A]

And the skill that you need in this modern, strange dystopian. I say dystopian so much on this show. I apologize, but the only word I can use as a shortcut to just like. In a world where everything feels like there is a fundamental sadness inside at the core of it, the way to handle that sadness is to just not care as much is to ignore it or ignore it and to not feel it in that way. And I'm like, yeah, look, it's that thing about playing back, playing sports in New York. I'm like, why do I marvel at athletes who can really thrive in New York City? It's because the spotlight melts you. And Kim Kardashian is like, hey, would you mind pointing every conceivable spotlight at me?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm going to actually be More powerful because of it. That's what I'm really impressed by, is that she is sort of like, perfectly suited for this strange world in which that video of her sister cutting a cucumber. Have you seen that? Kendall Jenner cutting a cucumber.

[C]

Oh, my God. What?

[A]

Kendall, this hand.

[B]

I don't know what's happening.

[A]

The rusty trombone approach. Nothing to say holding a cucumber.

[B]

I mean, that's on you. Mom, you never taught her how to cut.

[A]

Left hand holding the butt end of the cucumber.

[C]

The logic of it.

[A]

And the right hand with the knife. Yeah.

[C]

How does your brain not even go. Well, I should keep my hand as far away as possible from the knife, and I want to hold it in place, so I should probably.

[B]

Well, that was probably her first time using a butcher's knife.

[A]

And I want to figure out, like, am I impressed? Fundamentally, because there is a skill to how they play the game or because, as I was alluding to before, it's actually just they're so big that whatever they do, it works. I think they're playing the game with a skill that others would not play it with. I think how they. The moves they're making now, I'm just like, it's working.

[C]

Like, what?

[A]

So the fact that 20 years in, Kim Kardashian is like the most famous. One of the three most famous people.

[B]

In America, I'd say, on the planet.

[A]

On the planet. I think that's. If that's the game, like, what. Could you give anybody the position on third base, let's say, and the various legs up that she has had? And would they have done the same thing? Legs up. Not. Not pun intended.

[C]

It's hard for me to operate.

[B]

Well, if you were watching the video, there was a lot of actually, like, knees down, I was gonna say.

[C]

I don't think their legs were up that much.

[A]

I think we should do one more topic.

[C]

I feel like my topic isn't as cool. We've had such fun with these topics.

[A]

So here we have. We have a. We have a dealer's choice.

[C]

Because I feel like, oh, you want to do the NSync thing?

[A]

Whichever one you guys want to do.

[C]

I don't have that much to say. Just that, like, I don't want it.

[B]

Yeah, I don't either. I don't have much to say either.

[C]

So let's do yours. But I also do think, and this is just for us, that, like, when Justin initially announced that tour, everybody thought it was an in sync thing because of the, like, they did, like, A big reunion. And then the big announcement was a Justin Timberlake tour. And then that tour flopped. And everybody was saying the reason that flopped is because they wanted an In Sync tour. So now they're gonna give us this In Sync something or other. And I think they're just misreading the room. I think it's like, yeah, no, we wanted that thing. Then you gave us the wrong thing and now we're moving on. Yeah, we're not. I don't want it. Yeah. And I loved Girl.

[B]

Like, I. I literally was like, like, you Backstreet Boys. Like, they made me sick.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I was trl. I'm like, how the are you number one? Oh my God, it's Bye bye bye. For me, I was team in sync. But like, now my children are being introduced to Justin Timberlake because he's the Trolls dude. He's Branch from Trolls. Right? And this last movie, Trolls 3, like, was all about boy bands. And that's really honestly what told me. No one wants this. Like, their songs aren't good anymore. They did an original song called Better Place and like, it's canon for three year olds. Like three year olds like it. Which means no, thank you.

[C]

It's of a time. Boy bands are very of a time. And they perfectly like, I was thinking about this the other day that I am grateful that my childhood, my adolescence intersected with the boy band era the way that it did. Because like, what a cool time to be like a 12 year old girl who's like, oh my God, a collection of. I mean, only like a couple of them were ever hot. It's very funny that we always acted like they were like five hot boys.

[B]

They were not.

[C]

I don't know. Chris Kirkpatrick.

[A]

I was gonna say, I don't know.

[C]

I just don't know. But I guess by that logic of like, you put a couple joy for tones. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't the one I mentioned, but he's among. Yeah. And so I just feel like it was great when it was. Even though it's the greatest it's ever been, something's missing, things suck. And we're all looking in the past to bring back that feeling. Correct. Not realizing that that feeling was not as attached to the thing as we think it was. And that, like, if you want that feeling, go back and listen to their old music.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Like, I recently redownloaded old NSYNC albums and like, I still do shower with music. Against my better judgment, I listened to like a full album, no Strings Attached, while I took a Shower. And I was like, this is so fun. I haven't heard these songs in so long.

[B]

Wait, how long are your showers?

[C]

Well, I didn't do the whole thing probably, but they're pretty. It was an everything shower, so this was pretty long.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Gotcha.

[C]

This is one of those Sunday ones. And so I. And like, that brought me back to like, oh my God. I remember being on, like my boombox, putting my CD in and, like trying little dances in my room and my brother would come in and be like, leave me alone. And I'd go back to my dance. Like, it brought me back. I don't want that. I don't want them to try to recreate that. No, it's not gonna hit the same. No, it's just gonna make me feel old. Correct. It's.

[B]

Yes, it makes them look old. Like, like.

[C]

Like they can't dance like that anymore.

[B]

They can't dance like that anymore. And like, they still do. Like, it was never more obvious to me than like. And New Edition was a little bit before my time, but, like, obviously I knew New Edition and I went and saw them perform at Essence Festival a couple of years ago and it just was like so fricking cringy to watch these 60 year old men in matching bedazzled suits still trying to hit moves. Like, it was just. I felt sad. I felt sad. I didn't feel nostalgic, I didn't feel sentimental. It was like, oh, God, y' all are still out here with your old ass, his age out here still trying to like, have girls dancing on you. I saw Ronald Isley recently, you guys. He's 90 years old and he's performing and he's like. He's like grinding his hips and there's these young girls dancing around him. And I just, I was like, sad.

[C]

They should have to be 90 as well, right? The girls dancing on you should also have to be 90. Creation. If you're gonna keep working, let them keep working.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Why do you get to have little girls dancing on you? Maybe. I don't know. I don't want to accuse them of something. Maybe they were like, of age, but. Yeah, not his age.

[B]

No, they were like 30. But like, what's, you know, that's gross when you're 90.

[C]

Huge gap. Yeah.

[B]

And it just. Yeah. Like, it just is not. It's not, it's not the thing. It's not the vibe. I'm with you. Like, it's been cool for my daughter to be introduced to Justin Timberlake now through Trolls. And I have. I've played for her, like, I want you back. And I hit some of the dance moves in the kitchen and like, stuff like that. But the idea that we need a new album, like, no, we don't. Stop it. Live forever on this. You've already done.

[C]

But, like, I'm not out here actively seeking new music all the time. I'm certainly seeking it from people who already made the music that I liked and have not spoken to each other or hung out. It's not like Justin Timberlake spent a lot of time with them.

[A]

I was gonna ask about that. How much of this is about, oh, here's a group of guys who relate to each other and hang out. And I like to see them, like, be friends.

[C]

I never really thought that they were that close of friends. I don't know if I was supposed to. I don't know if that's a part of the lore I missed out on, but I never was like, those five guys. Guys love each other. Especially when Justin took off and literally took off like he did. Also took off for space.

[A]

For space.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I always felt like JC Chaz resented Justin Timberlake. Were you? I was always a JT guy.

[A]

So JC Shaz, the legend of him, that he could sing better than Justin, Is that part of the lore?

[B]

Supposedly he claimed it.

[C]

He was just, you know, he was the brunette. He was the, like the. I think he might have been shorter. And he was. He could dance, he could sing. He was. He was less appreciated and therefore felt like. You could say he was underrated, even if he was properly rated.

[A]

Wow. There is a whole Reddit thread of JC Chase should have been more famous, successful.

[C]

That's right. Than just a solo career. And what was the song? Because if he did. I definitely heard the song and I liked it. He did that.

[B]

So he did that song. I mean, it was technically in sync, but it was really only JC that was singing on it.

[C]

You're black.

[B]

Yes, of course. I do my thug appeal.

[C]

And they did call.

[B]

Yeah, he said he had thug appeal, which threw me off.

[C]

Has also done quite a bit of. Have you heard the Britney Spears memoir when she tells the story about when they ran into Genuine on the street and that he code switched and they. Here's the thing. It's read by. You can probably find this clip. It's read by Michelle Williams. So the who we knew as Britney Spears, the Dawson's Creek girl is the narrator of her audiobook. And in this, she's reading Britney Spears recounting Justin Timberlake Code switching. Talking to Genuine. It's like, the most amazing, like, late 90s, early 2000s. Mad Lib. And I think she said that he was, like, walking our way was a guy with a huge, blinged out medallion. He was flanked by two giant security guards. Jay got all excited and said so loud. Oh, yeah. Foshes, foshes. Genuine. What's up, homie?

[B]

I have found my new ringtone.

[C]

Incredible. Incredible. Oh, my God. Incredible.

[B]

That's so great.

[C]

He has since denied it. I think he said that never happened.

[A]

He used to have that presumption of diplomatic immunity. Right? Like, that was the thing about, oh, he can dance. He's cool. He's like.

[C]

And he's funny. So, yeah, that was me defending. That was me getting defensive of jc. Yes. He did say thug appeal.

[A]

He did have a soundtrack. A sound. A sound. He did have a song on the soundtrack for Drumline. JC Chase.

[C]

And what was it called?

[A]

Blowing Me Up Parentheses with her love.

[C]

Oh, I absolutely know this song. There you go. Blowing me up with her love.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Remember a jam.

[A]

Wow. There are a lot of trucker hats that he's donning now.

[C]

Remember that? Remember the Von Dutch era?

[B]

Yes. Ed Hardy. Bedazzled jeans.

[C]

Yikes. If I were them, and they called back, called me back in, now that Justin Timberlake's flopping and they're all gonna do an NSYNC album, I'd be like, no, I'm busy. But are you? No.

[B]

Joey Fatone.

[A]

No, I believe.

[C]

But I am.

[A]

I like the idea of JC Chase, like, straightening his back. And, like, I'm gonna let this phone.

[C]

Ring a couple times and then answer it.

[A]

And then absolutely answer it. Because that's the dynamic. When I talk about the dynamic between those guys, those five guys, as if. If they're like a sports team, I'm like, the reunion. It's like, okay, there's ego management. Yes. And also, they all. Let's be honest, they all need it. And so the question of, like, does Justin Timberlake need it? Is secondary to the idea of how badly does Chris Kirkpatrick.

[B]

He needs this so bad. What does he look like now? He doesn't still have stupid hair, does he?

[C]

Into being, like, the hottest body. Yeah.

[A]

He got Invisalign.

[C]

Let's find out.

[A]

I don't want to be mean to him.

[C]

Ooh.

[B]

Can confirm.

[C]

No, no, I don't want to be mean. All right, so. But we're just saying. Probably not. He's just a guy.

[A]

He's a guy.

[C]

He's just a guy.

[A]

Living the dream.

[C]

Who was the ugliest?

[A]

Hoping to live the dream?

[C]

Backstreet Boys.

[B]

The ugliest one in Backstreet Boys.

[A]

Okay, you're off mic for this.

[C]

How does that feel about it? Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, I personally was not a big fan of his Sharpie eyebrows. So would say A.J.

[C]

Mclean. Yeah.

[B]

Wasn't a big fan of. He was considered a hop boy, though.

[C]

Yeah, I know. Which is weird because he was almost like their Chris K. Patrick.

[B]

He was Howie maybe.

[C]

Howie was so forgettable. What a forgettable.

[B]

He was pretty forgettable. I was always a big Brian lrell fan. I wasn't really into Nick.

[A]

That's like a. Brian L. Is like a fake Justin Timberlake.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[C]

And she.

[B]

I loved it.

[C]

I loved.

[A]

Yes. Gustin Timberfake. Yes. As he's been called.

[C]

Fault. He's not bad looking for a. I mean, he was always just kind of like a. Create a character that you hadn't done anything to yet. He always just kind of looked like the template, you know, it's like. And then you make the man on top of it. But they forgot to keep going.

[A]

What did we find out today?

[C]

Oh, so much. We found out that there's too many. We had too many topics. I don't know how you're going to edit that goes down. So I don't want to say that I found anything out that we might not leave in. I found out Pablo moans. Weird.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I found out Pablo's sex noises.

[A]

Hold on. That's not my actual. What I found out is that I'm being slandered as somebody who makes those noises organically.

[B]

I didn't learn.

[C]

I'm just kidding. That's fair.

[B]

I'm just kidding. I learned that Katie and Dan have a very relatable relationship.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

I love that about you. I'll never look at those Bluetooth shower heads again.

[C]

They're dangerous. You need to talk about the threat they pose to relationships.

[A]

I'm never gonna look at emails the same again.

[C]

We have two different Bluetooth speakers now. So he links to his and I link to mine. And we do not cross.

[B]

See, that's growth. Yeah, that's just growth and evolution.

[C]

It's just looking out for myself. Future me.

[B]

Yeah, it is. And I also. Same. I learned that said Pablo cannot imitate a female pretending to be having great sex.

[C]

I think mine was more accurate. You sound weird when you have sex.

[A]

I. I don't know how to refute this accusation.

[C]

Yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately, we'll never really know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think you should still make them all moan, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You gotta go make them.

[A]

Okay. What I really found out is that I challenged P.J. washington.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

To moan on tape for us. That sounds bad, but go with me here. Yeah. I need him to do his best, you know? His best. His best sex noise.

[C]

In a world where there are BJ's and HJS, technically, PJ could be a term for sex. Yeah.

[B]

Ooh. What would it be like?

[C]

What?

[B]

What would it up. She knew it too quick.

[C]

Why is it so.

[B]

It's got squeaky.

[C]

Needs more.

[A]

Like now you want more? Huh?

[C]

Down here, but like. Like push from your stomach, but high pitch. Okay. That's awful. That makes me so uncomfortable.

[A]

Probably just. We should probably stop.

[C]

It was the way. It was like a question.

[B]

Yeah, he did. He was like, do I.

[C]

Is this good? I could hear your lip quivering. Am I liking it? Yeah. Should we cut this? Yeah. Ew.

[B]

The shaking out. He's shaking. Why is he shaking?

[C]

Ew.

[B]

I don't know. It's not good, though.

[C]

I'm like. It's. Are we?

[B]

It's giving me a lot of feelings, but not good ones.

[C]

No.

[B]

I think we're done. Oh, God. He just keeps shaking us while he does it.

[C]

Oh, God. Thank God he didn't say. Are you finished? That would be a lot worse. A lot worse. Are we done? Is fine. Oh, my God.

[B]

This is my favorite show.

[C]

I regret.

[A]

I regret. I regret doing that. However Pablo Torre finds out is produced by Michael Antonucci, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Loman, Rachel Miller Howard, Ethan Schreier, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Chris Tominiello and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems Our post production by NGW Post. Our theme song by John Bravo, as always, is my voice now deep in my diaphragm. Thanks to Bugs Yambi. We will talk to you on Tuesday.