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Katie Nolan
Paul.
Pablo Torre
I'm Pablo Torre. And this episode of Pablo Torre Finds out is brought to you by Remy Martin. 1738 Accord Royale. Exceptionally smooth cognac for all your game day festivities. Please drink responsibly because today we're going to find out what this sound is.
Dan
Three people who don't know what they're talking about.
Pablo Torre
Okay, Antoine, Right after this ad, you're.
Dan
Listening to DraftKings Network.
Pablo Torre
Hey, look at you. Oh, hey.
Katie Nolan
I know. Your wives. Everyone's.
Pablo Torre
Everyone's wearing real clothes today.
Katie Nolan
I know. We have like the same.
Pablo Torre
Except my pants have buttons on the sides. I'm wearing snap pants.
Katie Nolan
Can you rip them off? Yes. I'm not asking you like I want you to.
Dan
Would you kindly.
Pablo Torre
Could you possibly. That's the third segment of today's show.
Katie Nolan
Great.
Dan
Had you not met his wife before?
Katie Nolan
No, I had, but I was actually telling Dan on the way there. I was like, we have spent woefully little time together. So I've spent about as much time with Liz as I now have with Carrie, who both are lovely and wonderful. And your kids, whose names I don't remember. You said say your names and neither of them did. And then like you over talked each other when you said Willa, so I missed it. Okay, Truman, I just forgot out of respect for Willa.
Dan
Thank you and that's very sweet of you.
Katie Nolan
Thank you.
Pablo Torre
We should explain what we did as. As a show.
Katie Nolan
We did an off camera content meeting, which I think other people just call a dinner. We just had a dinner. We all went over to Michael's and we had dinner. Not the craft store, Michael's house.
Pablo Torre
Michael and Carrie hosted us at their lovely home.
Dan
Thank you so much.
Katie Nolan
Really lovely.
Pablo Torre
Provided a fully cooked menu.
Katie Nolan
Yes.
Pablo Torre
Pork multi course.
Katie Nolan
No offense.
Pablo Torre
Pork centric.
Dan
No off offense.
Katie Nolan
No offense.
Pablo Torre
You cooked the thing that I immediately discerned to be the thing you cook for people who visit.
Dan
That is the thing.
Katie Nolan
And you've got it down to.
Dan
We got it. We got it pretty well done.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it's really well done.
Dan
Your pal David Chang of Family Feud.
Katie Nolan
Funny.
Pablo Torre
That's right. Co champion.
Dan
It's his recipe on the New York Times recipes. Momofuku's bosam.
Pablo Torre
My favorite moment. Beyond us getting to know each other and our respective partners and. And Willa and Truman was When Willa and Truman totally owned Dan.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. And I didn't help. Dan was telling a story and he.
Pablo Torre
We're all eating dinner together. By the way. The kids are integrated into a table in a way that I was Just so impressed by the way they could hang.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. They sat there, they were like, we'll pretend we like these people. And Dan was telling a story, and he used the word low key. Now, he used it the way that we grew up using it, which I believe our generation uses it as an adjective that hang was pretty low key. The generation, your kids generation, uses it as what I believe is an adverb. Yeah, it was low key. Pretty crazy. It was. And so at one point, he said, blah, blah, blah, blah, low key. And I saw them both turn to each other and, like, nudge each other under the table and, like, laugh. And I could. And I just looked over, and I was like, are you laughing because he said low key? And they were like, yeah. And then Dan got very insecure about him saying it wrong. And I was like, no, you said it right. They're just recognizing a. It was a little moment of generational crossover. It was beautiful that I felt bad for calling out in the first place.
Pablo Torre
He didn't really recover great from it.
Katie Nolan
No, he. Because then he became aware of the children and how he was not connecting with them. And then I. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but they started clearing dishes, and then so did he. And I think he really wanted to connect with the kids.
Pablo Torre
We all noticed that Dan was overcompensating by the end of the dinner.
Dan
I thought Dan did great reviews on Dan and Liz from the evening were. Is a pluses all around.
Katie Nolan
Fantastic. What about me?
Dan
Oh.
Pablo Torre
Do we want to talk about Detective Stabler? I just want to throw that out there, Katie.
Katie Nolan
Nemesis. No Nemesis of mine.
Pablo Torre
Are you caught up on the. On the feud?
Dan
Here's what I know. There's. There was a. An uncomfortable interaction between you and Mr. Maloney on Celebrity Jeopardy. Is that right?
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
And then beyond that, I know that there's, like, a little will they, won't they? Well, not with you, but no, with us.
Katie Nolan
No, with us, there's a big will they, won't they with us.
Pablo Torre
It is worth reliving that part.
Dan
Is it?
Katie Nolan
Oh, is it?
Dan
Oh, tell us about your charity, Katie.
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah, I'm playing for the association of women in sports Media, which, you know, I am a woman in sports media, but we need more. Sports media is still, like, 80% male. So AWSM has campus chapters, they have a scholarship program, mentorship, networking events, just to try to bring more women and more unique voices into sports media. That's fantastic.
Dan
Well done.
Pablo Torre
Absolutely. Applaud, applaud, applaud.
Katie Nolan
Nothing. Nothing.
Pablo Torre
Again, Dan, watch Slow on his face.
Dan
He's got no time. He doesn't look like he wants women in sports media.
Pablo Torre
Detective Stabler, during your celebrity Jeopardy, what round was that?
Katie Nolan
Do you remember? No, but if it was, I think that was the first interview, so that must have been right at the beginning.
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
And I came out the gate hot in that episode, so I think he was just like, who the Right. And. And that's fair. You know, Totally fair.
Pablo Torre
Stabler, though, in this episode, for Michael's edification.
Dan
Thank you.
Pablo Torre
Did figure.
Dan
Edify me.
Pablo Torre
It did figure in. At the very end.
Dan
Christopher Maloney was in second place with 88 screwed up. What is. Remember the Alamo? Yes. That's the slogan. Your wager wagered it all.
Katie Nolan
Did you hear me go?
Dan
You have $17,600 now. Katie Nolan had that big lead. Did she have. Remember the Alamo?
Katie Nolan
I did. She did.
Dan
Now, math, not your favorite part of the game. You just had to wager more than 3500.
Katie Nolan
Right. And you're. And I wagered 30 wager.
Dan
Exactly.
Katie Nolan
Katie.
Pablo Torre
There's Everett in the middle and just delighted by everything.
Katie Nolan
No. Come on, Katie.
Dan
Christopher, pick up your signaling devices. I'm going to read a single category and clue. The first one of you to buzz in with the correct response is our winner and our semifinalist.
Katie Nolan
But I do need a correct response.
Dan
Your category is French history.
Katie Nolan
Thought I was.
Dan
And here's the clue. Drink up. A famous New Orleans street is named after this dynasty that ruled France for most of the 17th and 18th centuries.
Katie Nolan
Katie, what is bourbon? It is bourbon. Yes.
Dan
Yes.
Katie Nolan
In your face.
Pablo Torre
Desperately trying to buzz in to the point that it looks like he's actively masturbating.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God, Pablo.
Pablo Torre
It was true.
Dan
That was true.
Katie Nolan
Then watching a clip of us watching a clip of me is making me.
Pablo Torre
Feel we're gonna do this.
Katie Nolan
I don't like. So many times I feel like I'm incepting myself.
Dan
I apologize that he, like, obliterated that buzzer. Yeah, they had to. They had to get a whole new podium after that.
Katie Nolan
I would have been embarrassed if he won. I would have been. If I were him, I would have been like, well, you clearly smoked me. Why would I. I wouldn't have felt good about winning. But I guess he's different. I guess he's just built different.
Pablo Torre
Christopher Maloney.
Katie Nolan
I'm so sorry.
Pablo Torre
Law and Order, svu and who?
Katie Nolan
All of my friends, specifically my dear friend Kayla. When she found out, she was like, please tell him how badly I want to have sex with him. And I was like, will do. And then after the show, I was like, we. I'm so sorry. Can we take a. Can we take a picture? And then while we were taking the picture, I just awkwardly said, my friend Kayla really wants to have sex with you. Ah. It was not my best. It wasn't my best, but I felt like I would be betraying my dear friend. I didn't let him know, and it was, like, way past the point where it was okay to let him know, which you could argue. It was never okay to let him know. And so I just was like, whatever, dude. I won Jeopardy.
Dan
You were just like, in the name of friendship, I have to sexually harass this girl.
Katie Nolan
Yes. I have to. She asked me. I'm a girl's girl, you know?
Dan
Yeah. And that's beautiful.
Pablo Torre
But I feel like the thing about Christopher Maloney. Every time I encounter, like, a headline about Christopher Maloney is along the lines of people being like, christopher Maloney, get to the already. Because this was to bring sports very clearly into this on this sports show.
Katie Nolan
Great.
Pablo Torre
That you all know for the sports of it, right? Christopher Maloney and Mariska Hargitay. This is Stabler and Benson. The partners on Law and Order SVU were spotted courtside at Madison Square Garden holding hands. Holding hands.
Katie Nolan
What's that? I don't hold hands when I'm sitting.
Pablo Torre
Just, like, ever inside his inner thigh.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I don't like holding hand. Maybe I'm just an anti hand holder. I don't know if that's a me thing. Most of the time. It's like, I feel like if we.
Pablo Torre
Were spotted courtside, if any combination of us. Yeah, we're spotted courtside in that pose. Our actual spouses would be like, what. What. What is happening?
Katie Nolan
I guess it's different for actors, right? Like, I already am not built in the way that, you know, people who date actors can just watch them have sex scenes with, like, super hot other actors, and they're like, that's the job. I don't think I would have that in me.
Dan
But this isn't. This is not that.
Katie Nolan
This is.
Dan
This is not the acting part. This is the. This is. I mean, unless this is, like, just bait for. Well, for.
Katie Nolan
Are they still on the show together?
Pablo Torre
So this is the thing. The baiting of this. The method. Will they. Won't they of this? For those not versed in Law and Order cinematic universe as I am, there was a scene that made lots of SVU news because things did get a bit steamy on the show for the very first time.
Katie Nolan
Are we gonna look at it?
Pablo Torre
We are, yes.
Katie Nolan
Oh, she's so beautiful. I. Elliot, Elliot, Elliot.
Dan
I want to.
Katie Nolan
I want to, but I can't.
Dan
Why not?
Katie Nolan
Because what if it doesn't work out?
Pablo Torre
So that was January 2023.
Katie Nolan
God, that's so Katie and Dan coded. God, that's so us.
Dan
What if it doesn't work out?
Pablo Torre
And the fans, the subreddit were very, very, of course, energized by this.
Dan
Sure.
Pablo Torre
But it never. It has not to date, paid off. And this is the entire conversation is that. Were we just baited by them in that circumstance?
Katie Nolan
How long ago was that in relation to the handhold?
Pablo Torre
So that was about two years ago.
Katie Nolan
Right. That's what I thought.
Pablo Torre
And people keep demanding because they keep on holding hands and doing all this stuff.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
To the point where Christopher Meloni was then interviewed recently and he addressed the fan reaction video.
Katie Nolan
Yes.
Dan
We're doing the best we can to.
Pablo Torre
Make it honest, not make it bait. If. If we do bait to. At least for me, you know, I.
Dan
Always do it with a wink. You know.
Pablo Torre
I think it's good natured.
Dan
But maybe you guys are over that. So, you know, and that's valid. But, you know, you give us too much credit for the power that we might have. Will they, won't they? And all that stuff. I don't 100% know what the he's saying. Right.
Katie Nolan
I think he was trying to say it's not up to them. It's up to the writers and. Or producers or whoever's in charge. And that when he baits in the public eye, he tries to do it like. I know you really want us to bang like we're holding hands.
Dan
I got you. Thank you for translating.
Katie Nolan
But I don't think that he.
Pablo Torre
I didn't see a wink in that photo. There was no wink in that photo.
Katie Nolan
There was no way. But he also, he does say it's valid if people are sick of it. So it sounds like he has heard people are like. Or get off the pot. Essentially.
Pablo Torre
This is, I think, the larger conversation around, like, what we all demand from television. So shipping is like a thing. Right. This is now an ancient art, ancient tradition in which people are putting characters together.
Katie Nolan
Familiar.
Dan
Yes, yes, of course.
Pablo Torre
Like everybody shipped your severance character.
Dan
Yes, obviously, yes.
Katie Nolan
With his co worker or. No, the lady that was.
Pablo Torre
With the lady that was debating him. Yep.
Katie Nolan
To baiting.
Dan
Wow. Really good. Really, really good.
Katie Nolan
Embrace the bait.
Dan
Okay.
Katie Nolan
Anyone?
Dan
Diminishing returns, but still good.
Pablo Torre
Very proudly. The point being, though, that, like, this is It's. It's sort of what you want. Right? Because, oh, my God, people are so invested in the authenticity, the friendship, the real life. Like, will they, won't they? That they demand and create fan fiction only for, I guess in this case, us to have to wonder, like, are you guys actually gonna pay this off or is there no end game here? And all you have is the juice of them almost kissing and then holding hands in real life.
Katie Nolan
Well. Cause we're getting to the point now where, like, yeah, you're not in control of the scripted show, but you could certainly leave your spouses and have a fling. You're in control of that. And don't get us to the point where we start demanding that of like, well, if you're going to hold hands at a Knicks game, I don't know. I think that's kind of wild. But I don't want this to be colored by the fact that you think I have some sort of long standing beef with him. I have nothing but respect for Elliot Stabler. I've watched so much svu. I only watch. Only watch the re. The reruns. I'm not, like, up to date on the new stuff, but so much svu and I truly, like, would love to see them hook up in the show. But I do want to say I think I'm done with the holding of the hands outside side in the room. I don't need that.
Dan
I don't want those two characters to get together on the show. Unless it's like, this is the last episode of the show and it's over now.
Katie Nolan
Damn.
Dan
Then it's like, about them. You know what I mean? That's not what it's about. It's about all these insane crimes.
Katie Nolan
It's about the. The corruption within the police force.
Dan
That's exactly. That's.
Katie Nolan
Watch it through that lens. We're like, they're supposed to be doing this.
Pablo Torre
I think it's about Christopher Maloney fundamentally edging.
Katie Nolan
So you think you're diagnosing his kink.
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Now I need to make sure you're not shaming him for that, King. Because we don't do that.
Pablo Torre
Never.
Katie Nolan
Great.
Pablo Torre
But we are, again, implying that maybe he should break up with his wife in real life and, you know, get with.
Dan
First of all, I'm not saying that I'm in full support of their marriages. I do think the acting thing you were saying before, which is that actors are built different. It's not an excuse. It's just like they're just built how it is. It's like you come up, you know, you're in acting school and you're all, like, giving each other massages and. And that's just normal. That doesn't happen in your.
Katie Nolan
I was going to use Sydney Sweeney and Glenn.
Pablo Torre
Oh, yes.
Katie Nolan
As Powell. As an example, but I. She just broke up with her fiance, so maybe that's not a good example.
Pablo Torre
Maybe it's exactly the example.
Dan
She's going to start dating Christopher Maloney.
Katie Nolan
I will say Christopher Maloney also has any roles I've seen him in outside of svu have been pretty sexually charged. I feel like he was Selena Meyer's little fling on Veep.
Pablo Torre
Oh, yes.
Katie Nolan
He was like a. I don't know, like a life coach or some sort of a personal trainer or something.
Dan
People are disturbed by your role. Yeah. They think folks who are physical can't be cerebral. I think those two things are separate, that they're not symbiotic.
Katie Nolan
He was also in. Oh, I forget the name of that show.
Dan
Isn't he in Wet Hot American Summer?
Pablo Torre
He is.
Katie Nolan
And is he sexed up in that?
Dan
Nice. You don't mind have some unfinished business. 210.
Katie Nolan
2.
Dan
He's not ashamed of his physical form, that's for sure. And God bless him.
Katie Nolan
What is the name of that show that was on Hulu? I think it was a tiny little cameo part, Max, with three X's.
Pablo Torre
That's a real show he's also on. That was on Hulu.
Dan
This part of the show is called Googling Things. It's where we stop talking. Oh, difficult people.
Katie Nolan
Difficult people. What I remember is him doing the splits.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing a split.
Dan
I'm so far from being able to do a split, I can barely stand.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
And he has his. His index finger under his chin.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Being a zaddy.
Pablo Torre
Yep. So I guess what we're saying is.
Katie Nolan
What are we saying?
Pablo Torre
Kayla. Christopher Maloney.
Katie Nolan
No, she's married now. What? She got married.
Dan
Wait, who's. Okay, my friend.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
Another. Will they, Won't they?
Katie Nolan
I know I've been saying it, and I think they. I think they're still. They still could.
Dan
Wow. I think this is actually. It's a really inopportune time for Christopher Maloney to have this thought then re. Entered into his consciousness.
Katie Nolan
What?
Dan
Because the idea that he needs to sleep with your friend, especially now that.
Pablo Torre
She'S married, because that's the number one thing he's into.
Dan
He could go on a quest of some kind.
Pablo Torre
Do we want to talk about those Australians in that Video.
Katie Nolan
Okay, so listen, when you put in the doc, Pablo put in the dock a thing about two twins in Australia. And I thought it was the two from Extreme Sisters on tlc. I'm Anna. And I'm Lucy. We're the world's most identical twins and we're from Perth and they do everything together. Yep. They share a boyfriend. They're from Perth, which is in Australia. And so I. This means share a boyfriend?
Dan
Yes, the same boyfriend. Not, not other, not twins.
Pablo Torre
This guy who's wearing a gold chain and a black shirt sitting in between them.
Katie Nolan
It sure is. Their clothes are also custom made. They always wear the same thing. They had a difficult time finding a job because they needed to work together. Who's actually going for the position? Both of us. In the past we've shared a job and we've shared a wage. You're kind of getting like two for.
Dan
The price of one.
Katie Nolan
You're getting four hands instead of two. Were willing to share the job. Okay. We're a package deal. We always come together, we're never apart. But they do the same thing from your clip. They finish each other's sentences and they talk together and they always at the end of their sentences and it's like, very funny. And I'd never seen anyone do it. And then I watched the clip you sent and those women do it as well. Witnesses are recounting some of the drama that unfolded on the Sunshine coast this afternoon. Two sisters have told how their mother and man raced to help when the carjacked SUV rolled on Steve Irwin Way, only to find the gun wielding car thief emerging from the wreck. Here's some of what they had to say. And one guy, he was up there with our mum and he, he went up there and he was coming back down towards us and he goes, run. He's got a gun.
Dan
It reminds me of a bit that Kristen Wiig and Fred Armisen used to do on snl and it's called there's no Every Time for Mothers.
Katie Nolan
But there's no Time for Mothers.
Dan
Cause I get anything they say, but.
Katie Nolan
No one's gonna tell you the difference.
Pablo Torre
So two things. Apologies for laughing at their traumatic memory of carjacking.
Katie Nolan
Of course.
Dan
However, they seem fine.
Katie Nolan
They do.
Pablo Torre
Can you give the visuals? People not watching.
Katie Nolan
Well, they do also seem to be nurses. I will say they just based on their outfits, they did seem to be nurses.
Pablo Torre
They were wearing all.
Katie Nolan
I was going to add in.
Pablo Torre
No, no, they were bunny rabbit patterned scrubs.
Dan
Yeah, they're wearing the exact same outfit. They had the Exact same hairstyle and face. Yeah. So I think, like, you could be twins, even identical twins, and yet differentiate yourself in some way, but they don't.
Katie Nolan
Seem to want to.
Dan
Those people seem to have no interest in being unique individuals in any way.
Pablo Torre
Correct. So my main instinct when I get a viral video like this passing across my timeline is always to figure out, like, how old is this? Did this just happen? Where is it from? What you learn is that these two twins are not nurses.
Katie Nolan
Oh.
Pablo Torre
For people.
Katie Nolan
Okay.
Pablo Torre
Oh, they're nurses.
Katie Nolan
Dogs.
Pablo Torre
Try again.
Katie Nolan
Cats.
Pablo Torre
Try again.
Dan
Birds.
Katie Nolan
Kangaroos. Bird nurse.
Dan
Are they bird nurses?
Katie Nolan
They're burses.
Pablo Torre
Guys, meet these two identical Burses.
Katie Nolan
Oh, Bridget and Paula. It was very hard to sleep at night, too. Hi, Mr. Percival. We thought our dream was never gonna come true for the birds. Got more birds in there.
Dan
This sanctuary is home to the twinnies, Paula and Bridget Powers.
Katie Nolan
So this is some of the birds outside here.
Dan
They're famous around the world for speaking in unison, but also the incredible work they've dedicated their lives to. Relying on donations. They save injured birds, rehabilitate them before releasing the feathered friends back into the wild. Couldn't be more normal.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
What a country.
Dan
I think that's great. Look, it's me and my sister, who's also me. And what do we do? We go to nursing school. For what? Birds. And that's great. Why not? If that's what brings you joy.
Pablo Torre
You know, there's a lot in the. In, in the. What was their names again?
Katie Nolan
Paulette. Paula and Bridget.
Pablo Torre
Bridget and Paula Bowers, actually.
Katie Nolan
Kenny's little sisters.
Pablo Torre
Yep. This is the spin off. This is in the Kenny Power cinematic universe. Bridget and Paula are, it seems, extraordinarily famous in Australia for being twinies, which is either a thing that all Australians call twins or just them.
Katie Nolan
That's a good point. We don't know.
Pablo Torre
Hard to know.
Katie Nolan
How could we? 20s, no way to look at 20s.
Dan
20S.
Pablo Torre
Never going to successfully Google that result.
Katie Nolan
And twins. Remember that? Remember when Coors Light? Was that Coors Light?
Dan
Yeah, I remember the. Out of them.
Katie Nolan
Twins. Ah. Love burritos at 4am drinking with my friends. And twins.
Dan
I love football on tv, shots of Gina Lee hanging with my friends.
Katie Nolan
And twins.
Dan
I love, love burritos at 4am Parties that never end. Dogs that love chat.
Katie Nolan
They're related.
Dan
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
So it's like I don't think I want to be a part of. I'm an accessory to something.
Pablo Torre
Access.
Katie Nolan
I don't. Maybe for. I mean, I guess maybe for looking because it's it to a man, I guess a simple minded Coors like man. And the one that they're portraying in that commercial, I guess it's two of a good thing. Yeah, but it's like, wouldn't you rather just an unrelated other hot lady?
Dan
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
I don't think we need to have. What about two sisters that can't kiss?
Dan
Hear me out. And friends, I guess. Two women who are friends. Maybe that.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, right.
Dan
That's a pitch. If I could go back and talk to that guy.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
Now that I think about it, like, the entire, like, subplot of the season of the white Lotus was essentially like, not watch it.
Katie Nolan
So look at him instead. I didn't.
Pablo Torre
It's like, what if two siblings.
Dan
You know, there's a lot. There's some. There's some herky jerky between siblings. Spoiler if you haven't seen it.
Pablo Torre
No, it's. Emphasis on disturbing jerky. Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. So a hand job happens. Yeah.
Dan
Yeah, sure does. Is there more stuff about the twins with the birds?
Pablo Torre
So now that we've established that, we don't think they should be making out with each other.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Thank you.
Pablo Torre
I'm glad we did cover that, doing anything like that.
Katie Nolan
Right.
Pablo Torre
I do want to point out that these twins have said in the Australian press that they have never had a boyfriend, either of them, because they do everything together. And that would be.
Katie Nolan
My girls have solved that. Sisters have solved that.
Pablo Torre
They think it's weird. The twinies think it's weird.
Katie Nolan
Your twins, they had the same boyfriend and they wanted to marry him, but they couldn't find anywhere where the darn laws would allow it.
Dan
That sounds right.
Katie Nolan
We're thinking we want to start a family soon. Soon. We want to know our options.
Pablo Torre
And you have partners.
Katie Nolan
We share our partner. And we see us having a child with him. Well, both of us. Not just one child.
Dan
Two babies.
Katie Nolan
So she needs to be pregnant and I need to be pregnant at exactly the same time.
Pablo Torre
In the meantime, let's contemplate the unfortunate circumstance that our 20s in Australia found themselves in.
Dan
Oh, good. There's more.
Pablo Torre
Which is that their bird sanctuary was running out of money.
Katie Nolan
Oh, no.
Dan
Holy.
Katie Nolan
How's that happen?
Pablo Torre
Well, they needed a solution.
Katie Nolan
Okay.
Pablo Torre
Enter a gentleman named Peter.
Katie Nolan
Are they gonna date him?
Dan
I'm scared of this.
Katie Nolan
We felt like touching the town in many times, but when we look into the bird's eyes. No, we can't. We couldn't. We knew in our hearts that Peter was lovely me. We should call him Saint Peter. I'm gonna hate getting Old. Because where we're going to be still be worrying about the birds. We just hope we get the younger generation coming through and have the passion what we have. It's not a princess's job whatsoever of a morning. We love getting our hands dirty. We're still pinching ourselves. He should be called St. Peter.
Dan
The good doctor's donation securing the future of the twinies operation.
Katie Nolan
When we first met Peter, we knew that he had a heart. Well, yeah.
Dan
Didn't it seem like they all. The one almost kissed Peter that one time.
Katie Nolan
I didn't see that.
Dan
Accidental hug almost became a.
Katie Nolan
Some birds can be in care three months or up to a couple of years. Years, yes. But they end up going back to the wild. Gets frustrated they can't finish it. That's not what I was going to say. Nobody ever goes like, that's not actually not where I was going with that. Because I'll tell you, that's Dan and I thinking how that's how we talk. We would love to both tell the same story, but we're both saying different things.
Dan
I will say in that context, specifically, the idea of someone telling your story with you who tells it the way you want it told is really beautiful. If you've ever been at a meal where the other member of the couple wants to tell the story slightly differently, which we all just were torture.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. It is.
Dan
Whoever starts the story, it's their story.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
Lay off.
Pablo Torre
We should recognize that Bridget or Paula definitely almost kissed Peter.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
Accidentally play that part again and if.
Katie Nolan
We'Re still pinching ourselves, he should be called Saint Peter. You already did that joke.
Dan
Good doctor's donation. Okay, fine.
Katie Nolan
The sparks flew.
Dan
Absolutely crackling.
Katie Nolan
Wow.
Pablo Torre
Just some real Benson Stabler energy.
Dan
Exactly.
Katie Nolan
Exactly. Will they, won't they?
Dan
Can they legally Melonian Hargitay wish.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God, These two are so lovable. These are such lovable twenties.
Dan
Yeah. I will say, I would say relatively adorable, but still vaguely. There's something unnerving.
Pablo Torre
Absolutely.
Katie Nolan
Have you opened your Instagram messages within the last week?
Pablo Torre
No.
Katie Nolan
I got a prompt that was like, chat with AI. You know when it's like, new feature and it said chat with AI. And I was like, no. And when you hit X, it still took me to the, like, landing page of, like, these are some AIs you could chat with if you wanted to. And like, there was one named Kendrick Lamar. There was one called Emo Boy. And then the one that had the most interaction, something like 649,000 interactions, was named Stepsister. And I was like, what's this? It's like, what?
Dan
I mean, you know, not your step.
Katie Nolan
But if it's not your stepsister, then who's. The fact that it's somebody's stepsister is enough to make you be like. Like, it's not even up to. It's not your step. And why do you want to talk to an AI step sister? What is this?
Pablo Torre
Well, this Filipino Pope.
Dan
There could be a Filipino Pope.
Pablo Torre
There really is so important to you.
Katie Nolan
Did you see Conclave?
Dan
I didn't see it.
Pablo Torre
I haven't seen it yet.
Dan
Guys, the Pope is dead. The throne is vacant. To me, what conclave is, and I'm sure I'm wrong, is, hey, it's a bunch of popes.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. It's a bunch of wannabe popes.
Dan
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
To me, what was so interesting about it? Great actors, great cast.
Dan
Rafe finds.
Katie Nolan
That's right. Who turned out to be. He's, like, kind of a dingus in real life, right? But he's. Didn't he do something annoying? Didn't he do something annoying at the.
Dan
I don't. I only know that he's ripped.
Katie Nolan
Is he the one who threw his gum at his wife and was like.
Dan
No, that was Adrian Brody.
Pablo Torre
Ray finds his.
Dan
Jack. Ray finds his. Did you yolked?
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I think so.
Dan
Absolutely.
Katie Nolan
What is going on? You think he doesn't get naked as the Pope in the Pope movie? You don't think I see that in the Pope movie?
Dan
Wait, Conclave.
Katie Nolan
He's. No, you don't. You don't see it. But here's what I liked about Conclave. It's basically war, right? It's a bunch of people from different countries all over the world, wanting to seize the highest power in the Church, the papacy.
Pablo Torre
Papacy.
Katie Nolan
Papacy. Damn. I say it like the smear.
Pablo Torre
It's a papacy.
Katie Nolan
I say it like the smear. So it's a war, but it can't be violent, right? You can't actually be violent. And you're supposed to stay moral if.
Dan
You want to defeat.
Pablo Torre
This is a conclave, Aldo.
Katie Nolan
It's not a war.
Pablo Torre
It is a war, and you have to commit to a side.
Katie Nolan
And so, like, you see people try to, like, cheat their way into winning, and they get caught. And then, like, the head. Whoever's running the Conclave has to, like, figure out how God would want us to deal with this. So it's like a moral compass. It's a heavily moral war acted by great actors.
Dan
And it's good.
Katie Nolan
So it's really good. Yeah, I like that.
Dan
Check it out.
Katie Nolan
But it made me really interested for this now. Because now. But I don't think it happens right away. I don't think it's going to happen till May.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, we got weeks. I was told by May is soon by my Google search. Yeah.
Dan
Well, front runner, as I'm told on the betting markets, and I'm glad that there are betting markets on this.
Katie Nolan
Really wrong.
Dan
The homie is Filipino.
Pablo Torre
That's right.
Dan
His name is. Say it with me. Three, two, one.
Pablo Torre
Cardinals. Luis Antonio. I can't pronounce his last name with me.
Dan
I don't know what it is. Luis Antonio Tagle.
Katie Nolan
Well, that wouldn't be his name if he became Pope. To be clear, they changed. They pick a pope name.
Pablo Torre
Right, Right, right. What should he call himself?
Katie Nolan
Pious. Pious is a great. What's the other good pope name? That's a word.
Pablo Torre
Pope Jeff.
Katie Nolan
First there's like a Pope.
Dan
Pope John.
Katie Nolan
It's like. No, but it's a word. It's like, like. Pious is a. Is a word. There's another one that's like a. Oh.
Pablo Torre
This is a good one. Let's do some.
Dan
But pious, they don't do it the English way. They do it the Latin way. Right.
Katie Nolan
Pios.
Dan
I thought. Oh, I thought, oh, is it P, I, U, S?
Katie Nolan
It might be.
Pablo Torre
All right, here we go. Popular papal names.
Dan
Yes. John Papular. Everybody hear that?
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
Benedict. Huh?
Pablo Torre
Gregory, Clement, Leo. Innocent.
Katie Nolan
Innocent, That's a good one.
Pablo Torre
Stephen, Celestine. Anacletus. Marcellus, Sixtus, Paul, Urban, Boniface, Alexander, Victor, Damascus, Evaristus. Hilarious.
Dan
Are there this many popes that these can all be considered popular pope names?
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I think so. I do think so.
Dan
How many popes have there been?
Katie Nolan
Lots.
Pablo Torre
Like, like 10, you know, 102. Great.
Katie Nolan
1.
Pablo Torre
20 is a great question.
Dan
3, 2, 1.
Katie Nolan
98.
Dan
98 popes.
Pablo Torre
The number of all popes to the present.
Dan
I'm going 126.
Pablo Torre
264.
Katie Nolan
I started up high. I should have stayed there.
Dan
Wow. I was. I wasn't even at 50.
Pablo Torre
Now imagine this is to the lyrics and the songbook of mambo number five.
Dan
Yes.
Pablo Torre
Everestus. Hilarious. Hygienus. Linus.
Katie Nolan
Hygienist.
Pablo Torre
Calixtus and Felix. Anastasius and Valentinus and Constantinus and Dionysus.
Dan
Dionysus.
Katie Nolan
Too close to the sun.
Pablo Torre
Damn right. No.
Dan
Damn it. Icarus.
Katie Nolan
That's who I was thinking of.
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
What did Dionysus do?
Dan
God of wine.
Katie Nolan
Ah. Wow. I like that. Pope.
Dan
That's a bacchanal guy.
Katie Nolan
That's a Cool.
Pablo Torre
That's a fun Pope.
Dan
Hey, that's a fun Pope. I wouldn't think you would do a pope named after, like, a Roman God. That would seem like.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
Conflict, Godliness.
Katie Nolan
They didn't really care about the conflict. Right. Didn't they? Because didn't they say. Didn't they adapt the symbol of the thing that they did?
Dan
I have absolutely no idea. Three people who don't know what they're talking about. Okay, Antoine, but wait, so the Filipino guy could be the Pope? That's what I'm reading in Newsweek is we could have a Filipino pope.
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Dan
Has there been a Filipino Pope before? We're talking Hondo P. White popes, right?
Pablo Torre
Check them out. Luis, Antonio, Tagle.
Katie Nolan
They've all been white, I assume.
Pablo Torre
So have all the popes been white?
Dan
Show me Indian pope.
Pablo Torre
We got an Argentinian Pope, I guess, really into the.
Katie Nolan
He was Italian. He's Italian. He was Italian. He was born. He was born in.
Dan
He could be Argentinian and still be white, right?
Pablo Torre
Yes, absolutely.
Dan
I think that guy's white.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Katie Nolan
I'm not going to say anything.
Dan
No offense.
Katie Nolan
Discussion. I don't.
Pablo Torre
A hundred percent white.
Katie Nolan
Wow.
Dan
Hondo P. White.
Katie Nolan
So it's time. The time has come.
Pablo Torre
I think it's time for a Filipino Pope.
Dan
Look, what I'm reading about this guy is he's relatively progressive. You're not going to get it. You're not going to get it all the way.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, yeah.
Pablo Torre
You are never going to get a progressive ecclesiological vision.
Dan
And you know, that's gotta be ecclesiological.
Pablo Torre
No question.
Katie Nolan
What does it mean?
Pablo Torre
You know?
Katie Nolan
Sure. But if I didn't.
Dan
Well, I think ecclesiological means like of or pertaining to the study of the Church.
Katie Nolan
Oh.
Dan
And then. And then progress. A progressive. So he's progressive.
Pablo Torre
That. Yeah, yeah. He also is known for celebrating Mass in a folksy and casual manner.
Katie Nolan
Love that. Love Jesus.
Dan
Love that. Absolutely love it. Before coming here, I asked the Holy.
Katie Nolan
Father if he had a message for you. He said.
Dan
Conversion to the Eucharist. Then he turned to me and said, behave well. A priest who starts every service with, listen up, y'.
Katie Nolan
All. Flip the chair around.
Pablo Torre
Low key. We're going to heaven.
Dan
We're low key.
Katie Nolan
You need to talk about.
Dan
He's wearing a tank top.
Katie Nolan
The papacy, you know how it happens. They. They take a vote, the initial vote. They count the votes. You have to have some percentage of the votes. It's all the cardinals are the ones that vote.
Dan
Okay.
Katie Nolan
They all get called.
Pablo Torre
College of Cardinals.
Katie Nolan
They'll get called into a congress.
Dan
Albert Pujols. Yeah, you.
Katie Nolan
Nice.
Pablo Torre
Scott. Roland.
Katie Nolan
Good. That's it. Can't name any others. You lock them basically up. They lock them up in like a stay cache with all the cardinals. And then every day I think sometimes there's two votes. They do a vote. They pull the names you have, they give you like, okay, so those are our top names. Now we discuss. Yeah, now we figure out where the votes are going. And then, like, they do a second vote and it's. It doesn't end until somebody gets, I want to say, 80% of the vote, and then that's the new Pope and then the smoke.
Dan
That is what comes out.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A two thirds majority is what you need. Okay, so 80 votes. If there are 120 voting cardinals present.
Katie Nolan
Which shouldn't there be? Don't we live in a world we.
Dan
Can all agree they all got to be there. Right? It's not. You can be like, oh, I can't, dude, I'm in.
Pablo Torre
You're not zooming in.
Dan
I'm in Cabo or whatever.
Katie Nolan
Well, there's one who comes.
Pablo Torre
Hope Dionysus is.
Dan
Yeah. Pope. Hilarious is like, I can. I got two shows of the Chuckle Hut.
Katie Nolan
Okay. I'm married to Alec Baldwin.
Dan
Nice. Wow.
Katie Nolan
Another bleak reality show about families. If you were looking for one.
Pablo Torre
Another person who was actually white and not Latin American.
Dan
Yes, that's true.
Katie Nolan
How you say. How you say.
Pablo Torre
Oh, you say.
Dan
But I mean, that's gonna be just. I'm just saying for Filipinos, that's going to be huge. Oh, my God, it's gonna be huge. And every.
Katie Nolan
At least you guys aren't gonna shut up. Up about it.
Dan
You're right.
Pablo Torre
I'm going to get merch.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. You guys would be super religious all of a sudden.
Pablo Torre
Going to Mass every day.
Dan
I'm in a pope hat 24 7. With my mom telling everybody. That's your cousin. She'd be telling everybody that we. I promise you. My mom's like, we know him. That's our friend.
Pablo Torre
I did already Google, like, Luis Antonio Tagle family tree.
Dan
I'm like, come on, I gotta be on here.
Pablo Torre
I gotta be on S3 dot com.
Katie Nolan
Check up on Ancestry, see if you became more Popey.
Dan
Damn, that is true, though. I'm going to be so Catholic. I'm going be more Catholic than anybody. I'm going to go all the way. I don't even know what that means.
Katie Nolan
Coming to Mass.
Dan
Oh, yeah.
Katie Nolan
Coming over to Mass.
Dan
Going to Mass every day. I'm having that day. The incense, this thing when you swing around, I'm going to have that.
Katie Nolan
They just. I don't think we're supposed to do that. I think that's for them to do.
Pablo Torre
Filipinos get to do that.
Dan
They're saying we can do it.
Katie Nolan
Cuz your cousin's the pope.
Dan
They're saying we can do it.
Pablo Torre
If you're cousins with the pope, you can swing the incense around.
Dan
Swing the thing around like a last.
Katie Nolan
Can I do the bell?
Dan
Yes. I'm empowering you to do that. Absolutely.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
If you podcast with a Filipino, you also get to ring the bell.
Katie Nolan
Nepo Bell ringer.
Pablo Torre
What I found out today on this episode of Pallador Finds out a show by finding out some stuff is that you're not gonna hear out there. One of the segments we t. Thank God.
Katie Nolan
And what I learned today is to shut my mouth sometimes. We talked about too many things and most of them bad. And I won't be participating in any discourse around this episode. I probably won't even cross post any clips. I apologize to your lovely, wonderful production staff.
Pablo Torre
They're all asleep.
Dan
They haven't been there for hours. I learned today that some twins are really twinning it.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
They're really going all the way.
Katie Nolan
And the others are lazy.
Dan
And the other. You know what? Try harder.
Katie Nolan
Step it up.
Dan
I always say Dan and Jeffrey bloom.
Katie Nolan
From my middle school school. And I also think high school. You're going after me. Which is actually just an annoying echo. So I feel like you need to.
Pablo Torre
Work a little bit on becoming.
Katie Nolan
Is it that I talk too fast?
Dan
Yours is more of a really quick parrot, you know, I mean, a parrot who's like, I got this. The type of, you know, like, parrot.
Katie Nolan
Did I say what I learned?
Dan
You did.
Katie Nolan
Okay, good.
Pablo Torre
Yep.
Dan
You want. Did you learn a second thing?
Katie Nolan
You can learn.
Dan
You can say anything you learned.
Katie Nolan
No.
Dan
I think I'm in charge now, right? Yeah.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, yeah. We're going to edit this into a Coors light musical number.
Katie Nolan
Love. 4am's too late for a burrito. 3am is dicey.
Dan
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
2Am fine.
Pablo Torre
Burritos at 4am I love burritos at.
Dan
4Am is like I love having diarrhea.
Katie Nolan
At seven in the morning. I love pizza at 4am I'm not. Burritos at 4am is like, it more involved. You go home, you drunk, order a burrito. I don't know.
Dan
At 4am I have a burrito. Because what I like is gastrointestinal distress.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Dan
I want to be in constant pain.
Katie Nolan
I become a burrito.
Dan
Huh?
Katie Nolan
I roll up in my blanket.
Dan
Maybe that's what he means. Maybe he's kind of with cheese.
Katie Nolan
With cheese and beans and twins. And twins.
Pablo Torre
Pablo Torre finds out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, neely Loman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller, Howard Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tominiello and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound design by NGW Post. Our theme song, as always, by John Bravo. We will talk to you next time.
April 25, 2025
Guests: Katie Nolan, Michael Cruz Kayne
Network: Le Batard & Friends
In this lively "Share & Tell" roundtable, Pablo Torre hosts sports and culture commentators Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne to unpack viral curiosities, pop culture lore, and their own personal lives, all with the trademark PTFO blend of irreverence, deep curiosity, and comic chemistry. The discussion jumps from a viral Australian "twinie" phenomenon to generational dinner-table moments, the rumor-fueled world of "shipping" TV characters, and even the upcoming election of a Filipino Pope. It's a mix of media recaps, generational translation, and freewheeling banter, showing how the mundane and the viral alike spark new questions far beyond the game.
| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Dinner party and generational lingo comedy | 00:42–03:40 | | Katie vs. Christopher Meloni – Jeopardy showdown | 04:12–08:20 | | SVU "Will They, Won’t They?" shipping & hand-holding | 08:29–14:12 | | Examination of "shipping" & TV/real-life boundaries | 14:24–17:18 | | Australian "extreme sisters" and "twinies" phenomena | 17:33–28:02 | | Coors Light "twins" ad & pop culture riffing | 22:25–24:05 | | Papal Conclave, Filipino Pope speculation & jokes | 29:00–38:16 | | "What did we learn?" burritos & twins closing riff | 39:00–40:19 |
Fast-paced, unscripted, and joyfully digressive, with a self-aware sense of humor and a blend of cultural criticism, nostalgia, and personal revelation. PTFO continues to make the personal political, the viral oddly profound, and the absurd joyously human.