Podcast Summary: "Share & Tell with Katie Nolan and Kevin Clark"
Pablo Torre Finds Out – September 28, 2023
Guests: Katie Nolan & Kevin Clark (Le Batard & Friends)
Host: Pablo Torre
Overview
This episode of "Pablo Torre Finds Out" features a lively round of "Share & Tell" with acclaimed sports personalities Katie Nolan and Kevin Clark. They celebrate Pablo’s birthday, discuss the wildest NFL happenings, debate the ethics of sharing kid content online, and swap personal scam stories—culminating in Pablo’s infamous leather jacket scam tale. The tone is loose, funny, and conversational, mixing deep sports insight with cultural critique and playful, self-deprecating humor.
Main Topics & Insights
1. Birthday Banter and Introductions
- [00:49] Pablo opens up about it being his 38th birthday, sharing playful back-and-forth with Katie and Kevin (cupcakes, badge jokes, etc.).
- Katie Nolan jokes about not having a podcasting badge despite being a regular.
"You should deserve a badge and a gun."
— Pablo Torre to Katie Nolan [01:24]
2. NFL Talk: Miami Dolphins & Coaching Greatness
Katie's Football Weekend & Miami Dolphins’ 70-point Game
- [03:40] Pablo sets up that Katie just experienced a “hell of a football weekend.”
- [04:03] Katie explains her fiancé, Dan, is middle-school friends with Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel, leading her to frequent Dolphins games.
- Katie describes the surreal “space house” of McDaniel and the experience of watching the Dolphins dismantle the Broncos in person.
"It’s fun. It’s football, so it’s fun. But also at the same time, you're just like, man, this isn't my team."
— Katie Nolan [04:57]
- [08:30] Katie describes being at the game in the head coach's suite, observing her fiancé’s Broncos-fan friend Chad's pain.
"Chad was having a tough time watching it unfold in the suite of the head coach of the team that was absolutely embarrassing [the Broncos]."
— Katie Nolan [09:58]
The Dolphins Offense & NFL Trends
- [10:09] Pablo and Kevin riff: Are all other fans now essentially “Chad,” watching their teams get destroyed?
- Kevin dives into why Miami’s offense is so lethal—"get fast guys, confuse the defense, go"—and how they’ve "never seen anything like it" speed-wise.
"Mike McDaniel runs what a souped up five-year-old would run—which is like, 'Let's get a bunch of fast guys and do a lot of confusing before the snap.'"
— Kevin Clark [10:20]
- [11:20] Katie questions whether Denver's ineptitude is blamed enough.
- [13:00] Katie asks Kevin how many actually “good” NFL coaches exist; Kevin estimates 8-9.
McDaniel as the First “Reddit Coach”
- [13:48] Kevin claims Mike McDaniel is “the first Reddit coach,” a bona fide nerd, not just a football dork.
"He is the first Reddit coach, I think. Not fake nerd... I mean, the only two things he does is vape and come up with unguardable plays."
— Kevin Clark [14:13, 14:25]
3. Share & Tell: Kids as Content, TikTok Trends, and ’Cheese on Babies’
The TikTok "Parenting for Content" Phenomenon
- [16:06] Pablo launches into a New York Times article about parents going viral for throwing cheese or cracking eggs on their babies for TikTok.
- Hosts discuss Ryan’s Toy unboxing—a kid millionaire—and the cycle of living vicariously through children's social media content.
"The instinct to figure out how to monetize my child... I'm not gonna throw the cheese. I'm not gonna crack the egg."
— Pablo Torre [17:13]
- [18:30] They debate why watching the same child open gifts (or smile at cheese) remains endlessly popular.
- Katie: "I can’t understand wanting to see a child experience that joy... three times a week for seven years. What are we doing?" [19:02]
Should You Post Family/Kids Content Publicly?
- [23:23] Kevin explains he’s strictly private about his baby online due to privacy and safety concerns (his wife is an investigative journalist).
- Katie and Pablo gently pressure him to show them photos off-air. They debate the value and risk of making your kid public content—Pablo admits he’s more lax.
"He looks like the dictionary definition of a baby... But Teddy will never be the focal point of anything content-wise."
— Kevin Clark [24:38]
4. Scams Across the Generations
Gen Z: The Surprising Most-Scammed Generation?
- [29:16] Kevin shares a Vox/Deloitte stat: Gen Z is three times more likely to get scammed online than Boomers (16% vs. 5%).
- The group jokes about classic boomer “easy scams,” but Kevin notes the overexposed nature of Gen Z to digital scams.
"The whole narrative is that Gen Z, they're just on top of things... The scammers, correctly, were like, 'We've identified Gen Z as incredibly scammable.'"
— Kevin Clark [30:42]
- They discuss factors: constant online presence, FOMO, the NFT craze, “micro-generation” distinctions (Zelders!), and how even 9-year-olds could drag down the stats via in-app/game purchases.
- [34:15] Kevin: “Every generation is basically the same”; kids are not inherently more or less immune to scams.
- Hilarious riff on George Washington having “BBL” (Brazilian Butt Lift) teeth and being “canceled.” [33:35-33:51]
5. The Hosts’ Personal Scam Stories
Pablo’s Admission: The Leather Jacket Scam (Story Highlight)
- [41:17-44:49] Pablo recounts, in excruciating detail, how he was scammed—at age 24 in NYC—by a man selling “luxury” leather jackets from his car at night. He was directed to a nearby ATM and handed over $130, only to later realize via Google it was a common scam.
- Katie and Kevin alternate between open-mouthed horror and relentless roasting.
"You're the dumbest person I've ever met."
— Kevin Clark [43:40]
"That's like a cartoon. That's a cartoon."
— Katie Nolan [44:51]
- Reflection on people-pleasing and the social discomfort that led to the mistake.
"I think it's people pleasing..."
— Pablo Torre [47:26]
Katie’s Cautionary Tale (By Proxy)
- [45:14] Katie tells the story of a roommate almost falling for a fake job check-overpayment scam, and how she stopped her.
"My first instinct is always, what are you trying to get out of this?... So I try to find the scam in everything."
— Katie Nolan [46:38]
- Laughter as they contrast Pablo’s unwitting victimhood.
6. Closing Round: What Did We Learn Today?
- [48:01] The show wraps with each host sharing what they “found out”:
- Pablo: Shouldn't have told the scam story.
- Katie: Realized she's "smarter than Pablo at one thing—scams." [48:19]
- Kevin: Jokingly tries to set up his own leather jacket scam outside the studio.
- Katie and Kevin rib Pablo for his “never-ending” supply of scam stories.
Notable Quotes & Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |:------------|:-------------|:--------------------------------------------| | 01:24 | Pablo | "You should deserve a badge and a gun." | | 10:20 | Kevin | "Mike McDaniel runs what a souped up five-year-old would run..." | | 14:13/14:25 | Kevin | "He is the first Reddit coach... The only two things he does is vape and come up with unguardable plays." | | 17:13 | Pablo | "The instinct to figure out how to monetize my child..." | | 19:02 | Katie | "I can't understand wanting to see a child experience that joy... three times a week for seven years." | | 24:38 | Kevin | "He looks like the dictionary definition of a baby... But Teddy will never be the focal point..." | | 30:42 | Kevin | "The scammers, correctly, were like, 'We've identified Gen Z as incredibly scammable.'" | | 33:51 | Kevin | "George Washington is canceled." | | 41:55 | Katie | "Pablo, dude, how did you fall for this?" | | 43:40 | Kevin | "You're the dumbest person I've ever met." | | 44:51 | Katie | "That's like a cartoon. That's a cartoon." |
Key Timestamps for Reference
- 00:49 - Pablo’s birthday confession
- 03:40 - Katie’s Dolphins/McDaniel story begins
- 10:09 - Are all football fans “Chad” now? Miami offense talk
- 16:06 - TikTok trends: Cheese, eggs, babies, “kids as content”
- 23:23 - Should you post your kids on social? Kevin’s privacy stance
- 29:16 - Gen Z, boomers, and scams: Vox/Deloitte data
- 33:35–33:51 - George Washington, BBL teeth riff
- 41:17–44:49 - Pablo’s leather jacket scam story
- 48:01 - "What did you find out?" wrap-up
Tone and Style
- Lively, irreverent, self-deprecating
- Mix of smart sports analysis, honest personal stories, and contemporary media/culture chatter
- Encourages vulnerability—and then roasts it lovingly
For New Listeners
This episode is a rolling, dynamic conversation that moves from NFL talk (with an insider-y but accessible edge), to thoughtful dissection of personal digital boundaries, to hilarious group confessions about getting scammed. Key takeaways include the dangers and temptations of making content from your real life, why even digital natives aren’t immune to age-old cons, and why it’s important to be able to laugh at yourself—especially when your friends are happy to laugh at you too.