The Doctor Is In: Katie Nolan and Dan Soder’s Final “Jeopardy!” Share & Tell

Summary

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Episode: "The Doctor Is In: Katie Nolan and Dan Soder’s Final “Jeopardy!” Share & Tell"
Date: January 26, 2024
Host: Pablo Torre
Guests: Katie Nolan & Dan Soder

Overview

In this episode, Pablo Torre explores the aftermath and behind-the-scenes of Katie Nolan's run to the finals of Celebrity Jeopardy!, joined by comedian Dan Soder (her fiancé). Fresh off the season’s conclusion, Pablo, Katie, and Dan break down not just the strategies, surprises, and emotions embedded in the game, but also the context: illness, “buzzer thumb,” and relationships both on and off camera. The group leans into humor, sports analogies, and real talk about pressure, performance, and what it’s like to truly want something on national television. This is both a post-game therapy session for Katie and a look at what it means to lose well in front of an audience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening: Impressions, Laser Sounds, and Wrestling Voices

0:30–3:00

• The episode opens playfully: Dan demonstrates his sound effects (laser, machine gun), and Pablo enjoys Dan's "woke Rodney Dangerfield" routine.
• The trio jokes through wrestling impressions, with Katie doing a “macho man” via Dan Soder meta-impressions.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Dan: “Look, I'm telling you, you don't have to get any respect to women of color. It's far too long they haven't been getting... If gender’s fluid, then I'm in love with a puddle!" (01:34)
  • Katie: "Every impression I do is an impression of Dan's impression." (03:14)

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Watching Jeopardy: Reliving the Final at Home

3:53–5:11

• Katie and Dan watched her Jeopardy! finals at home together, already knowing the outcome.
• Both reflect on the discomfort of watching oneself lose, equating it to being the partner of a boxer after a tough match.
• Katie: "I full lost the final. I came in third. I full lost the final." (05:19)
• Dan reveals Katie was “very sick” during taping: “Katie was very sick, very sick when she recorded. And that’s not an excuse. I’m just letting you know.” (05:28)
• Katie details a series of illnesses and thumb injury leading to the final.

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Injuries, Illness, and "Buzzer Thumb"

6:04–9:03

• Katie recounts having just come out of COVID, then fought off a serious cold for the finals. She also describes injuring her thumb by overplaying Spider-Man 2 on PlayStation.
• Both joke about the sitcom-like absurdity of being physically unready before a big event.
• Pablo to Katie: "What is the most real version of Katie Nolan is the version that you can sense who really wanted to win this." (09:49)

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Preparation: Studying and Buzzer Technique

10:15–17:19

• Pablo lauds Katie's preparation—she tried to memorize every country and capital to not "look stupid," a goal she says she achieved.
• Katie discusses reading a book about buzzer technique and describes how to minimize movement for maximum speed.
• Dan: “She put in the work. Learned every country, the fact that—learned every capital.” (10:15)
• Katie (On her Jeopardy! goal): "The original main goal was I don't wanna look stupid, and I don't think I did. So I'm proud of that." (10:38)
• Katie, on buzzer skills: “You just pull. Your thumb, the button.” (16:47)

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Inside the Game: Key Jeopardy! Moments and Crowd Dynamics

18:05–21:18

• The viewing party dynamics get sports-like, with Dan as supportive hype-man in a hostile “away game” crowd.
• Katie’s "Daily Double" in Geography was a highlight; Soder likens his reaction to a superfan at a football game.
• Dan: “When I saw it was geography, I reacted the same way I did when we went to the 49ers-Chief Super Bowl…” (19:33)
• Katie, on wagering: “My brain's just going, 7, 3, 4, 5, 16. All of it. None of it.” (26:49)

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Notable Game Play Mistakes & Strategic Regrets

21:46–28:32

• Katie regrets not trusting her gut on a clue about the Macarena (line dance confusion) and reveals her self-critical process.
• Dan and Katie openly admit to no grand wagering strategy, more a “what am I comfortable losing” instinct.
• On missed clue about Macarena: “I should have just said it. I think something in my brain was like, oh, you're gonna look real stupid if you say the Macarena is a line dance.” (23:12)

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Final Jeopardy: The Big Miss

29:47–34:43

• Final category: Literary Clichés. Katie wagers everything, expecting to dominate “word” questions.
• The answer was “The butler did it”—she wrote “The doctor is in” (from Peanuts), thrown off by clue wording.
• Katie: “For some reason, I did not focus on the word servant, and I think that's because I don't like to use terms like that.” (32:46)
• Dan describes the post-miss emotional swing—“Sad sandwich: the bread is sad, the meat is angry, and you're like, damn it. But then a swell of pride.” (34:47)

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Reflections on Losing, Redemption and Charity

35:26–38:15

• Katie wishes she understood wagering better, so she could win more for her chosen charity (Association for Women in Sports Media), who could use every cent.
• Both Dan and Pablo highlight how proud they are of Katie—her preparation, her run, and her representation for women in sports media.
• Notable Quote: “If you're listening to this and it matters, [the Association] can also donate, because I think they'll take any money they can get.” (38:03)
• Pablo: “You did a really good job of explaining to America what this organization was in a real way….” (38:15)

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Online Reactions, Advice, and “Haunted” Missed Clues

39:25–46:08

• Katie laments not being able to warn eager fans she didn’t actually win, and how hard it is to read “go get ‘em!” posts when she knows the outcome.
• She describes how missed clues “haunt” her, like not getting “One Dance” by Drake or “Appetite for Destruction.”
• Katie reflects on taking time away from Jeopardy! after the loss, returning later with renewed appreciation.

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Losing With Grace & Looking Forward

46:08–49:14

• Discussion on the cultural aversion to losing—Katie expresses pride in her effort despite not winning.
• Dan recounts how Executive Producer Michael Davies personally told Katie she had the highest correct response ("field goal") percentage of anyone in the tournament—a tangible mark of her skill.
• Dan’s sentiments: "I'm very proud of you. It was fun. It's over. It was over. All legitimately.” (48:22)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Dan, to Katie (prideful):
  “I'm very proud of her and the way she busted her ass, like, to learn before the finals, it was just awesome. …You did so awesome. And you almost won it. You missed one big question that cost you the game, but you were in it. And you were in it to the end.” (36:39)
• Katie, on post-finale emotions:
  “I think if it had been Mo, I would have been up like more upset. Lisa Ann was just so sweet and she was really smart and she played the game really well. …I was really happy for her.” (33:47)
• Pablo, summarizing:
  “What I found out watching Katie Nolan play Celebrity Jeopardy! Is that she would have wiped the floor with…” (42:59)
• Katie, on represented women’s sports media:
  “Women in sports media. Not stupid, very smart. Oftentimes write their own thing. Believe it or not, they let us do the typing and the talking.” (42:40)

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Segment Timestamps: Quick Reference

• Impressions & Opening Banter: 00:30–03:26
• Jeopardy! Finals Viewing, Illness & Injury: 03:53–09:03
• Game Strategy & Buzzer Technique: 10:15–17:19
• Daily Double & Game Flow: 18:05–21:18, 19:32–20:06
• Missteps & Clue Regrets: 21:46–23:27, 45:09–46:08
• Final Jeopardy Sequence: 29:47–34:43
• Post-game Reflection: 35:26–38:15, 39:25–46:45

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Tone

The episode combines sarcasm, competitive wit, self-deprecating humor, and surprising vulnerability. The trio uses sports, pop culture, and “dumb smart” references to both deflect and process the emotional stakes of performing under pressure and failing publicly. There’s a deliberate refusal to wallow, and a commitment to finding the fun—and meaning—in a nationalized embarrassment.

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Conclusion

This episode is a candid, funny, and energetic deep dive into what it feels like to compete at something you care about, deal with loss, and be cheered on (and chirped at) by the internet. It’s also a loving portrait of a relationship built on mutual support, as well as a promotional platform for the cause of women in sports media. Katie’s authenticity and resilience shine, and the camaraderie with Dan and Pablo makes for essential listening for both Jeopardy! fans and anyone interested in the gap between effort and outcome in public life.

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Transcript

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Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is like.

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Dude, this is so cool. And I'm so proud of her.

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Right after this ad.

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You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. I don't know if it'll translate on audio.

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What's happening?

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A laser sound. That is so convincing. Can you just lean?

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I'm gonna close my eyes.

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Ready? Yeah.

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Okay.

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It's the reverb. It's the reverb. Do it. Get a little closer and do it one more time.

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How do you do that?

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I. I don't want to know. I told him not to show the magic.

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It's like throat singing.

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Laser all day crazy.

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And then you want to back up a little and do your machine gun.

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Jesus. Let me go, dude. I'm White Wackle. Winslow. Come get some. Come get some. The voice. The voice for Mentalist never left me.

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You've never done Elliot. Yeah.

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Oh, God, that's.

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Well, there's a time and there's a place. Sometimes there's a time and a place. If you're ever up in the hills of Colorado and your dad has left, where. Well, there's time. Time to learn voices.

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Rodney Dangerfield.

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Rodney's my favorite.

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Yeah.

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Gotta find more stuff to do as woke. Rodney.

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Wait, what is. What is woke Rodney?

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Look, I'm telling you, you don't have to get any respect to women of color. It's far too long they haven't been getting women of color. I'm telling you, if gender's fluid, then I'm in love with a puddle. Of course black lives matter. I'll tell you what, doesn't matter. All lives. I got an ex wife. I got a doctor. Dr. Vinnie. Bo. Yeah, what was the other one that we. Oh, like we would do right wing. Bruce Springsteen.

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Oh, my God.

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He's like, you know, there's a lot of immigrants taking jobs out here. No, Bruce. Whoa, Bruce. Brucey.

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Bruce.

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Hey. My daddy used to work at the factory. And then a Guatemalan man took that away from me. Whoa. Time out. Time out. Bruce. Hey, I'm telling you, Citizens United. It ruined democracy. All right? There's all the voices. Thanks for letting me get my voices out. You gotta. You gotta de Venom me like a snake.

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There were other topics that I want to talk to you guys about today. Topics that would have just set up Dan Soder to do various wrestling voices.

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That's my whole life, baby.

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I was hoping you would actually.

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I'm gonna ruin it and just Talk about my thing. Sorry, honey.

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I love it.

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Sorry, honey.

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I'm your Miss Elizabeth today.

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Oh, wow.

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That. That hits different, doesn't it?

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Now pick me up on your shoulder.

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No, Katie has to do her macho man.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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That's like if he is horse.

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Every impression I do is an impression of Dan's impression.

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I love it. Yeah, that's good.

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Yeah, there it is.

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There it is.

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Yeah, it's pretty good. It's a limited fake.

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But yeah. Let's. Let's talk about Jeopardy.

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Oh, I know.

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Yeah.

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Do we have to? I thought these were only if I won.

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I. I admire that you showed up.

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I didn't know I had to do this if I lost.

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In some ways, this is the episode I'm looking forward to the most.

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Good.

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Because I want to know. I can now know everything.

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Yeah.

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How did you guys watch this?

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Oh, we just watched it at home.

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Yeah. Just had dinner.

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We just had dinner and watched it.

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You know, lovely meal.

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We had both seen it before.

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We were both there.

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So.

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Katie had a good point while watching it last night. She goes, athletes don't have to watch the game replayed back to them.

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I bet some guys do for the first time. No, I'm just saying, like, oh, the first time. Sports are live for a reason.

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This is what I was tickled by while also being very bummed. Spoiler alert.

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You don't have to pretend.

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The closest I've ever came to being a boxer's wife the next day. I think I've made that analogy with this before, but it truly felt like I was in a gown and I had a diamond necklace on and the love of my life was bleeding out of every or so. I like. It just felt like I was, like, just sitting there with, like, velvet gloves on, being like, are you okay, baby? But it was fun watching it. I was in the audience for it, and I didn't remember a lot of it.

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Right.

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The least about.

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So we. We should, as we always do, recap for people who missed. Okay.

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I didn't win. I lost the whole. I came in third. I full lost the final.

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But this isn't something she's going to say because this isn't something that Katie does.

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What?

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Katie was very sick, very sick when she recorded that. And that's not an excuse. I'm just letting you know.

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But it's like when a hockey player reveals, I've had a.

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The whole time I had a punctured lung. She.

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I got her sick. I was very sick. I had a really bad head Cold. And then I went back on the road and Katie was like, I think the day I went to Phoenix you were like, I'm starting to feel like. And I was like we knew. We knew the finals were Sunday and.

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The first taping day of. Of Jeopardy. So the, the quarterfinals and the semifinals. I had Covid that I got rid of just in time to fly. I was afraid that Covid was going to keep me from doing Jeopardy. And I got. I used that Pax Lovid and got rid of it in like four days and then had an extra day to get healthy and then flu. So this time I was sick again and I was like no. And it did not clear up quick. It was not co. And it did not clear up.

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There was a nasty cold going around.

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When was this?

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November.

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After Spider Man. Right after. You guys have been sitting on this for that long.

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Yeah, she. And by the way they did cut the Spider man thing, which made me mad. Yeah, cuz it was great.

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And it was just. They make you. You do a lot of the interview stuff in between. You know the like Katie, you're playing.

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For this charity but you legitimately had to think cuz not only was she sick, but her thumb was hurt. She had heard because.

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So Spider. This is kind of out of order but Spider. Ow. Spider Man 2 had come out.

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Katie battling technology will be a theme of today's episode.

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Spider Man 2 had come out on PlayStation and I played it to. So they had asked me about how I prepped and I was like look, I've been spending my weekends prepping like memorizing the capitals and countries and stuff. But this last weekend I let myself take the weekend off and relax and I just played a video game I'd been really waiting to play for way too long. I should. I played it for like a day straight.

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And to the. And it's funny is I was. I was very excited for Spider Man 2 to come out.

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Same pre ordered it obviously.

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And I told Katie she didn't play. She played the first Spider Man. She was like, it's all right. So she was like. I was. I was trying to tell her in a down period of her not having a game. I was like, you should try Spider Man. It's awesome. And we live in Manhattan now.

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Yeah, you can find yourself and you can.

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Who doesn't look for the Grand Theft Auto 4. I immediately went to the beer garden in Astoria and found where my apartment.

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By the way, These are my two favorite games of all time. Number three is Red Dead Redemption 2. As Katie.

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And I just started replaying it. Love it. Love an Arthur Morgan story.

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Okay, but.

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So I played the game too much.

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But she got into it in a way where, like, I was on the road and the game came through and she was like, I need a video game. And then she texted me and she wrote, I Got Spider Man 2. I don't want to play it, though, because you were so excited to play it. And I go, no, you should play it. And when I say that she started playing it. She dove in. And by the time I got home from the road, this was like a couple weeks before. She was already 50% of the way.

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Through the game, which is insane.

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She played.

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But so I realized I played it so much that I injured myself. My thumb was red and swollen and throbbing, and I realized that I was potentially had injured myself before my Jeopardy. Final. So like my buzzer thumb, the only.

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Working appendage that mattered.

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It was like in a sitcom where.

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Katie, for the podcast audience, you can go and DraftKings Network, Katie Nolan's objectively not an excuse actually swollen.

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So what's so funny is it really was like a sitcom, you know when someone wakes up and there's like a big event in the episode and they go like, oh, no, my eyebrows are blonde. And like the whole point of the episode is them hiding it. That was Katie. When she woke up, she was like, my thumb. And then I brought back the nastiest head cold either one of us has had in 10 years. Gave it to her, cuz I love her.

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So sweet. So sweet.

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And the Friday before Jeopardy. She was like, I'm feeling like. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, you're all right. You're all right.

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Now you're. Now you're a cut man.

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No, no, no, you're good. Everything's fine.

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You're champ sleep. You still got a champ.

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Get some sleep.

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And she's we. She flew out to la, which I.

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Do not recommend flying across the country at this time, culturally, with a cough.

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I just want everybody to know that what is the most real version of Katie Nolan is the version that you can sense who really wanted to win this.

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Yeah, of course I did.

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And that's why when I was watching, I was nervous.

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I know.

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I didn't know what was gonna happen. I knew I fel. Felt how much knowing you, you wanted and I would dare say deserve.

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Well, she put in the work.

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Thank you, papa.

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Learned every country the fact that. Learned every capital.

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Katie would come by and I'd be like, so like, what are you doing? And. And she was like, memorizing all of geography.

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I know where things are now. That's pretty cool to me.

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Bulgaria, the capital.

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Sophia.

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Jesus, she's good.

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The original main goal was I don't wanna look stupid, and I don't think I did. So I'm proud of that.

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So for people who miss the first two parts of this trilogy, one of the great trilogies in fight history, of course. Ali Frazier, Katie Nolan versus Christopher Meloni, in which she makes an arch nemesis out of Detective Stabler, a life enemy, truly. And then follows it up by getting into another blood feud and defeating Steven.

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Webber from Wings, who turned into a fan.

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Yeah. Has been in our Instagram comments.

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Yeah, he sent me a message and asked me if I won, but he sent it on Monday or like Tuesday morning. And I was like, I can't say. So I didn't answer. But now I gotta. I have to remember to respond to him.

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I do now think, though, of Steven Weber maybe watching this episode and seeing the photo of Katie Nolan's thumb and thinking to himself, I did that. Turnabout really is fair play.

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It really is. It was like when Frasier used to say mean stuff about Ollie getting Parkinson's where he's like, I that. And you're like, damn, that really is a rivalry when someone's injured later and he goes, I'm the cause of that pain.

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Katie Nolan had grabbed Stephen Weber's thumb and held it like a hunting trophy in front of all of America.

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Like a predator. Like predator.

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Truly said it was a God thumb. So I just wanted it to get the deserved.

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The spine of. Of Stephen Weber above her in a tree.

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So no one will ever take that away from you.

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That's right.

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But I want to set the scene because you guys are at home. You guys know what happens. You guys are watching the Stone cold sober. You guys are.

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Yeah, sure.

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Yeah. Stoned cold. So.

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Oh, there you go. I didn't realize the word play was there.

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And so you press play and you guys are live. What. What are you guys watching for as Katie Nolan's face appears right next to Lisa and Walter from the Parent Trap in Abbott elementary and Mo Rocca from CBS this Morning and the Daily show and yeah, other things that involve guys wearing bow ties.

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Bow tie enthusiast.

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Your mentality is what, Watching it. Yeah.

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I mainly wanted to remember because I didn't remember anything. I remembered there was one block, so between a commercial and a commercial where I got like, nothing, where all the questions I remember going, what are these I don't know any of these where I just felt like they were speaking a different language. And then I think I got one right at the, before the commercial, like right at the end. And then was like, Jesus.

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But what's crazy is watching, obviously, we, we're all witnesses. You know, that's what, that's. But when she was taping, it was, it's interesting to watch somebody re watch it and kind of know what happened, but not in what order because we were like, she's saying she knew there was a block and there was a block, but she was watching and she was like, I think this is the block where I don't get anything right. And then it cuts to the primary coverage like that. Okay, two questions in David Murr's up in our. Good evening.

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We're coming back on the air because ABC News is now projecting that Donald Trump will win the New Hampshire Republican primary based on our analysis. I remember watching this.

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How do we say his name?

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David Muir.

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He's been around for so long and I still am like.

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I remember taking my remote control because they cut in with breaking news coverage of the New Hampshire.

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Now, if you're watching live primaries, Katie got a notification that up in Boston they had cut a little earlier. So she was like, oh, they cut to primaries. And I was like, no, no, they haven't cut here, so maybe we're safe. And then two minutes later they cut and we're like, is this it?

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Is the episode done Tidy Game of Celebrity Jeopardies?

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Yeah, it was about to go. It was, it was during commercial break. So we knew when it came back it was going to go to Katie, who she's playing for kind of a little, you know, banter with Ken. But before that, in that block where she thought she missed anything, she actually did awesome in the first block. I don't remember her doing as well. And she doesn't remember either doing as well.

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I was actually doing okay.

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And at one point I'm like, at the couch. Like, I had never seen it. I was like, look at that. Look at, look at you, scientist.

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We should remind everybody that the way this begins, it has me marveling at Katie Nolan's thumb.

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College level history courses for 200.

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Vassar offers Cold War America a history course from 1945 until the fall of this European landmark in 1989.

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Katie, what is the Berlin Wall?

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Yes, it is. Damn, you're good on that buzzer, girl.

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I practiced.

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We'll come back with more Celebrity Jeopardy right after this.

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I know it's Very frustrating.

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It's very.

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You'll get it, though. It'll come around. She's a fickle mistress. I know.

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My favorite. That was my favorite. That legitimately got a big pop out of me in the room.

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I don't. I don't remember when you're filming it that they keep the first thing you say before they go to break.

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I.

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So I just was making small talk with my new friend Lisa Ann. Not the porn star. Got a lot of tweets about that, which I was like, guys, make sure the joke wasn't already made before you make it for the 50th time. But anyway.

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But that was the biggest pop I got because that made me. That was the most Katie thing I saw.

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Well, I just wanted her to feel.

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Better about it because she's being nice to someone.

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Teaches me to be nice to my opponent.

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Mission accomplished.

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You were also, though, holding your hands in a different way. You had your hands down like Muhammad Ali actually like would lower his hands like confident. And so I'm thinking buzzer technique.

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I read a book and by the.

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Way, somebody called me out on it. Yeah, somebody tell she read. I think it's called like the technique of the buzzer or the buzzer of the. I forget. I got it on my Kindle and whenever I buy something on a Kindle, I don't see the COVID I forget what it's called. So I apologize. But it was written by one of the like a. A Jeopardy. Champion guy. And it's says that after studying, he made like a makeshift buzzer of some sort and. And found a way to study it and found that the best way is to minimize the amount of muscles that go between not touching the button and touching the button so that you aren't like having to move your arm and activate a whole series of motions.

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Kinetic chain, if you will.

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It's just. You're just pulling. You pull your thumb, the button.

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So are you. Your arms are straight.

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Arm. You hold one arm. I mean, I'm bending so that you can see.

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This is definitely a graphic animated gift that someone's going to.

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Arms are straight and you're holding the arm. Whatever arm. You feel more comfortable holding the clicker in. And then you're just one motion.

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Can you explain it to me in self defense, teacher tone?

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All right, so what you're going to do, I've got it here, holding its weight here.

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Yeah, there it is.

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Now if I pull this down. Bam, bam. I'm buzzing in.

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I let go of the beautiful 10.

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Out of 10.

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Turns into emerald.

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Oh, no. Well, we do that with our dog, right? We'll be laying there with the dog.

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When she used to wear, like her little vest instead of a collar when we had her on, like a little harness and he would have to put it on her to take her for a walk, he would always talk about it like he was suiting her up to jump out of a plane. He's like, all right, now this here is your shoe once you jump.

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But we also do self defense mechanism, self defense teacher with Myrtle, where I'll have my hand around it. And I go, now see, my hand is free right here. You're going to grab this hand and you're gonna bend it over, choking the dog. So you nailed it with the buzzer. So with Cuddles.

[A]

I was extraordinarily optimistic after seeing that that's how that commercial break was entered. Because shortly thereafter, we get to this.

[D]

Oh, Nissan, what is the Handmaid's Tale? You got it. Mo, who is Willa cather? Good for 500. Lisanne, who is Edvard Munch? Good for 500.

[A]

Mo, what is Paris?

[D]

That's the capital. Lisanne, who is Melville? Yes. Lisanne, what is Dune? Right. Lisanne, what is Dunkirk? Right again. Rodrigo Prieto was behind the lens for Greta Gerwig's Barbie. And this 2023 Martin Scorsese drama.

[C]

Katie, what is Killers of the Flower Moon?

[D]

Yes, that is correct. Apparently, none of you had the four hours to see Killers of the Flower Moon. No, Katie gets it right.

[A]

So a whole segment basically has passed. Dan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In which Katie has not buzzed in, got one answer. That was a whole run.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so Dan Soder in the crowd is what?

[B]

Well, I've realized I'm outnumbered. I am. I'm with Rebecca Pfeff, her manager and friend, and we are hanging out. We're there. We're the support staff. We're there in the. And then around us is a group that's there with Lisa Ann. And Morocca's husband is on the end of the aisle with us. It's us three. And then everyone around us is there with Lisa Ann. So when Lisa Ann starts going on this run a little bit, much like in sports fandom, when the other team's fans start getting a little rowdy, you start getting a little rowdy. And the question, the Daily Double comes. Yes. After this run.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Not only does the Daily Double come, but I want to make this perfectly clear. It's a. I, I know it's a geography because it's in the CA category was things that rhyme with Katie. And the second I saw that the double. That the daily double was geography, I reacted. And Katie's the only other person in the world that saw this reaction. I reacted the same way I did when we went to the 49ers Chief Super bowl and Fred Warner gave Patrick Mahomes his first interception of the postseason, where I stood up and went, that's what the I'm talking about. And when I saw his geography, I went, let's go.

[D]

It's what you are. If you reside in the small emirate nestled between Iraq and Saudi Arabia, what is Kuwaiti? You would be Kuwaiti.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

And you're in second place.

[B]

And then she got the daily double. And I reacted too hard. I went too hard in the paint. You go.

[A]

You heard her say Kuwaiti.

[B]

Yeah. I knew I just lost your shit. The second I knew she was going to get the daily double, I was so hyped. And that. And they did not like that. You can tell with just from the energy. They did not like the fact that their friend's opponent, husband. Whoever I am, is being. I showed up with a big K painted on my chest and started doing that. Kind of like. I got into it because I knew how important this was to Katie. I knew she was sick. I knew her thumb was dinged up. Okay. I'm over there in my ball gown with my diamonds on and my lace gloves, clapping every time she gets punched going. But it was. I was starting to get rowdy. And then I had to do at a commercial break, do a little damage control because it was pretty obvious that.

[A]

I was like, what is damage control?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, guys. This is. How nerve wracking is this? It's legitimately small talk.

[A]

Making the most transparently.

[C]

Dan's very good at small talk.

[A]

Forced small talk.

[C]

Stuck in an elevator with this guy. He can seem like he's interested without seeming too interested.

[B]

Has it been 10 minutes or 40? We don't know. We've been talking about small. I wanted to bring it together because I did feel like I overreacted.

[A]

The tension ratchets up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's this one moment, Double Jeopardy, where you objected to.

[B]

Yes. Because it's not a lady.

[A]

And I did, too.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

Let's watch this.

[B]

I. I still think it's erroneous.

[C]

Wacky fed obituaries for 600, not mobituaries.

[D]

Here we go. Funeral for this line dance will be held on the nearest cruise ship. Featuring a special performance by Los Del Rio, Katie oh, no.

[C]

Line dance. Oh, okay. Sorry.

[D]

Time's up, I'm afraid. Lisan.

[C]

What?

[D]

Is the Electric Slide also in line dance? That's the Macarena. Del Rio gave us the Macarena.

[C]

That's what I thought, but that's not. Liz.

[B]

You know what's so funny is that is absolutely the corner talking to the judge after a pay, where he goes. I wasn't holding. Like, you can see on the cameras when they're, like, talking to the line judge. I wasn't grabbing the jersey.

[C]

If I can describe it live, and I don't think this is going to make any sense, but when you're hearing a clue and it's live, it maybe. Maybe it's my add, but you really just hear a couple words and you try to take those words and make it into something. And I heard Lo Stel Rio. Right? That's what. Yeah. And I knew that's the Macarena. It was stupid. I shouldn't have gone back to line dance. I should have just said it because either way, I was going to lose the money. I'd already buzzed in. I should have just said it. I think something in my brain was like, oh, you're gonna look real stupid if you say the Macarena is a line dance.

[B]

Is that what the thing that was so line dance itself.

[C]

Line dance made me go, because Los Del Rio. I was like, macarena.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I went, oh, shoot. Line dance. I have another song. And instead of that, I should have just said Macarena, but I didn't.

[A]

We are playing this under protest. Yeah, Line dance. Just according to Dictionary.com or the Oxford Languages here, a country and western dance in which dancers line up in a row without partners and follow a choreographed pattern of steps to music.

[C]

It was an erroneous choreographed pattern of steps to music. Somebody argued to me that country and west, when you do the hey Macarena and you jump and turn that, that makes it a line dance. And I get it. I could see that. Again, the. The fault was my own. I should have just said Macarena. I clearly knew it. And I clear guest, you know, it's crazy. So I just.

[B]

When you just did that, it fired me up to do the Macarena. I don't know why.

[C]

When you just go through it right now, you just.

[B]

When you, like, did it, you. And then you put your hands on your. I was like, dude, I don't know why. No wonder that thing caught on. It's like smelling gas at a gas station. You're like, what is that?

[C]

What do you know about that?

[B]

I used to know about it.

[C]

Dan has no sense of smell. Sorry, go ahead.

[B]

Checks for rubbing in my face because I'm disabled.

[A]

Oh, that's right.

[C]

He's not disabled.

[B]

I am disabled.

[C]

If you lose a sense, I guess technically, yes.

[A]

Wait, so what we're saying is that gas being a thing one would huff for Dan Soder is a soda fact.

[B]

Now she thinks it is.

[C]

He speaks on things he doesn't know.

[B]

I know what gas smells like.

[C]

No, you don't.

[B]

I had a sense of smell. You act like I've never had a sense of smell. I've had a sense of smell up until I was like 12. No, like 30.

[C]

I don't know. I don't trust that. That he says that.

[B]

I. I truly think Covid knocked it completely.

[C]

You said it was smoking. You used.

[B]

That was why it was used.

[C]

To smoke and then breathe it out his nose, which is badass.

[B]

Sorry, I'm a badass.

[C]

Insane. Also started smoking at an age that'll make you gasp.

[A]

What? What?

[B]

12?

[C]

Yeah. Still playing with action figures?

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

And smoke. I gotta say, so funny. That's pretty bad. Yes.

[C]

The joke from your special that I found very funny was that he would take a break from his action figures and smoke.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Figure out what's going on.

[B]

I loved it. I love smoking cigarettes. Please make a non cancer. Cause.

[C]

Yeah. Make them good again.

[B]

And then I'll be right back. Baby, Baby.

[A]

Anyway, we go to triple jeopardy.

[C]

We do as one does.

[A]

And the category. I wanna. I want to be inside of my head for a second here.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Because when this category, blank and blank, gets revealed, you're like, dude, I am. I'm thinking to myself, word category. Anybody who's watched Pablo Torre finds out knows that Dan Soder has declared Kat an amazing word category player.

[B]

She is.

[A]

And I'm like, she's gonna nail this. And so here's how that went.

[C]

Let's go with blank and blank for 1200 answer. There.

[D]

Now it's a chance for you, Katie. And you'll be wagering from the lead. How much will it be?

[C]

I'm going to wager 3,000.

[D]

3,000. Here's your clue. Blank and blank used together, these words are synonymous with intrigue and secrecy. And they sound much cooler than poncho and knife.

[C]

What is cloak and dagger?

[D]

You got it. You excluded your lead.

[B]

Great. Great stuff.

[A]

Yeah. What was your thought process as you're trying to clearly like taking a beat to figure out how much money am I wagering? On this.

[C]

Nothing. As I'm doing the. I'm gonna wager my brain's just going, 7, 3, 4, 5, 16. All of it. None of it.

[B]

None of it. Zero. I want a zero daily double.

[C]

I would like to say that I was going, okay, carry the wine. And if I do this, then I can. I don't.

[A]

You're just.

[C]

I'm not strict.

[A]

Doing the box.

[C]

I would like the. The lesson from this all to be that the least strategic person on earth is me. I wish I had more of that in me so that I could then do things like, I don't know, figure out what I should wager in situations like this or in final jeopardy. But instead, it was just like, what am I comfortable losing?

[A]

Right.

[C]

I guess what is, like, I won't be mad at myself if I get this wrong. So I didn't want to do, like, 10. I didn't want to do all of it because I knew, if you remember, my first daily double was peace, I think, and I got that wrong. Like, there have been daily doubles that I think I'm gonna get right, and I get them wrong. So I didn't want to, like, wager what's wrong.

[B]

No, I was asking, was there a le, like, triple jeopardy of the semifinals? You got all three daily doubles. You did a true daily double. You did five, and then you did five. Was there any. Obviously, the difference is you were coming from behind in the semifinals, but now you've got the lead is. Did that change the betting strategy that much?

[C]

Easiest. The easiest daily double bet I made was my all in, which you would never think, but I was so far behind and I needed it so bad that I was like, all of it. This is my only chance to catch up. Up. This time, when you're in the lead, you're like, if I go all of it, I go to the back of the room if I miss it, and if I don't do enough, which I then later found out I didn't. So it's. I don't like that. I don't like where it's up to me.

[A]

It's the reverse. Kyle Shanahan, Katie Nolan with a lead.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

In her own head. The opposite of 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan.

[C]

Yeah. Because you don't want to squander your lead.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But you could. I could have pulled way ahead, but instead I was like. Like, I don't know.

[A]

And so things tighten.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Morocca nails his own daily double. He goes all in.

[C]

He went all in. Unapologetic make it a good game. Which.

[D]

Well, I. I want this to be exciting for people.

[A]

Mo do it. I'm. I'm going to. I'm going to do it all. I'm playing with a charity and I feel really irresponsible. But go big or go home or.

[D]

You'Re doing this for the get shunned by society. You're doing this for the people.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

All right.

[D]

For the viewers out there, here's your clue. Mo in. I'm just Ken. In 2023, this documentarian released his latest film, a four hour series examining the rich history of the American buffalo.

[A]

Who is Ken Burns?

[D]

That is correct. Yeah. And you just put the lead. Mo.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

$21,000 from O Rocka.

[B]

God bless you.

[C]

God bless him. I love the 90s, too.

[A]

19,500 for Katie Nolan. Lisa Ann Walters. 13,800 headed into Final Jeopardy. And you know how this works. Before the first commercial break, they reveal the category. And this is what they said, all.

[D]

Three of you with very respectable scores. But it's going to come down to this. Here's the category you'll be making your wagers on, folks. Oh, God. Literary cliches. The clue is coming their way in just a moment. We'll be right back.

[C]

Words, words, words.

[A]

And I stood up in my living room as aforementioned, knowing that this is the meatiest she's got it fastball category.

[C]

Looked over at Dan in the audience and I. Because I was like, all of it. And he was like, all of it. So I was like, okay, let's do it.

[A]

Katie, you had nailed animal idioms. I know you are. No one has been. I don't want to rub it in. We should just play final jeopardy.

[C]

Yeah. Go ahead.

[D]

We are about to crown our celebrity Jeopardy. Champion and give away $1 million to their charity. Category's literary cliches. Let's reveal the clue. Many mystery fans blame the door, a 1930 Mary Roberts Reinhardt novel in which a servant kills a nurse for this four word cliche. 30 seconds, players. Good luck. Lisa and Walter will begin with you in third place, but with an impressive $13,800.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

What four word phrase did you write down? What is. The butler did it. That is correct. I apologize.

[C]

So obviously I didn't get it right. But wait. I love this.

[D]

The butler did it. Lisanne, you're going to add to that score. What did you wager? Almost everything. Wow. $27,500. And for the moment, you're in the lead. Katie Nolan had such a voice with 19,500. Did she know the butler did it?

[C]

Oh.

[D]

Ah. The doctor is in. I'm afraid not. Words. I'm afraid. So we're not going to be able to accept that. Oh, you wagered everything. Dropping you down to zero. Big wager. Big wager. Katie Morocca had the lead.

[B]

That's my favorite. That's one of the most Katie moments of the whole thing, you know?

[D]

The butler did it.

[C]

He did.

[D]

I'm so sorry. He did not. He wagered $20,000, knocking him down to 1,100.

[B]

That eruption that you heard not from Lisa, but from the crowd was exactly like. Remember that 3rd and 14 when the Chiefs picked it up against the Niners and everyone around you stood up and clapped? I was like. Like. I was just like, oh, yay, the butler did it.

[C]

Never.

[A]

Speaking of which, I'm sorry to has never just.

[C]

I never would have guessed that.

[A]

I didn't get that either.

[C]

For some reason, I was focused on the nurse part of it. And I went. I went full peanuts. Because the doctor is in. It's from the peanuts.

[A]

Lucy's sign.

[C]

Lucy's sign. But I couldn't think. I was like, four words, nurse. Those were. For some reason, I did not focus on the word servant, and I think that's because I don't like to use terms like that.

[B]

Oh, my God. You'll never have a Kelly Osborne moment as a servant.

[C]

You know, I think of him as my contemporary in the sense that.

[B]

Who is going to scrub your toilet?

[C]

No, but it's so. I just. It didn't. And then people were pointing out to me that, like, after the Malcolm Butler interception in the end zone, there was merch that said. Said butler did it. And I'm like, I didn't even. It didn't even.

[B]

That's also an obscure, like, nothing.

[C]

Not to me. It shouldn't be to me, but I did that never.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You know, there's something. And now I bet. Now I bet I'm gonna see that phrase everywhere, because it's just never really registered with me. And now it's gonna be the only thing.

[B]

I'm gonna come home and turn on a black light and all over our walls is gonna. The butler did it. I'm like, oh, oh, no.

[C]

I will be murdered. And it will be the butler who did it. It'll just some. This is all going to be part of an arm.

[A]

A guy delivering you room service is going to give you ptsd.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's a lot.

[A]

Just the psychology of you've just lost. And your emotional temperature goes to where.

[C]

Honestly, and I don't want to just sound like I'm saying this honestly, it. I think if it had been Mo, I would have been up like more upset. I. Lisa Anne was just so sweet and she was really smart and she. And she played the game really well.

[B]

And she was super stoked to win.

[C]

The look on her face when she won.

[A]

She almost started crying. She did?

[C]

She cried?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

She, like the way she like gasped and was like.

[B]

Because you could.

[C]

She said like, haha, I'm in the lead for now. She did not think at all that she was going to win. And so when she did, I. I was shocked that Mo got it wrong. Um, and I just was. I was really happy for her.

[B]

She multiple times was like, my mom was such a big Jeopardy. Champion and that clue. I knew because of my mom. It really like, really was a moment for her and she was very sweet and just so excited about it. It was. That was fun to watch.

[C]

And I'm also shocked.

[B]

I was mad and very.

[A]

Yeah. I have you as like the Dallas Cowboys fan who's punching his television.

[B]

Yeah, I, I don't get that angry. I get like when people I love lose there. There's. It's, it's different than cheering a team you love because when you're cheering a team you love, there's frustration, but there's a distance because you don't know that team. You don't know those people. You just cheer them on. When it's someone you love, there's a connection. So there's an immediate sadness followed by an anger. And then back to set. It's a sad sandwich. You just got. You got. The bread is sad in the middle. The. The meat is angry. And you're like, damn it. But then a swell of pride. Give me a side of pride because I was just like. And the first thing I said to her, I was like, you did? So, yeah.

[A]

What's the post game like? How do you.

[B]

Super.

[A]

When do you guys get to it?

[B]

Was it honestly? Very. I felt the same. Not exactly the same, but I felt pretty close to how I felt after she had won the semifinals, which was. I was just like. I kept trying to tell Katie, like, look how cool this is. Look how cool you are. You just did so awesome. And you almost won it. You missed one big question that cost you the game. But you were in it. And you were in it to the end. And that was. I was just very like. And still am. We were watching last night. I was like, this is so cool. I'm so proud of you. I kept, like, hitting her and high fiving, like, I had never, like, I wasn't there. Because we love Jeopardy. We watch Jeopardy. It's a, it's a thing that we, that through the pandemic we got into with certain characters, we just rip Trebek, you know, not liking Jennings as the host and loving him now as the host, getting to meet him, all that stuff. Katie's arc on the show, beautiful run and something that. It was like, one of those things where just as her, you know, fiance, I'm just like, dude, this is so cool. And I'm so proud of her and the way she busted her ass, like, to learn before the finals, it was just awesome. And it was like, we learned it was Morocca, and it was kind of like, like, oh.

[C]

I found out. I was like, okay.

[B]

Yeah. When we were like, at least nothing against Lisanne Walters, we were like, it was excited. But when we both found out it was Mo Rocca, it was like, you're fighting. You're fighting Tyson.

[A]

I should say.

[B]

We were like, oh.

[A]

When I got admitted into Harvard University, yeah. I went to the admitted students gathering, and the person who spoke was Mo Rocca.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

He was the literal vision of like, like the smart guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you can be, like, smart man. Truly.

[B]

That's why Katie staying in it and doing as well as she did. I was like, come on.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

It was like, you're, you're, you're unbelievable. She's just the best.

[C]

I'm the most bummed that I didn't understand Final Jeopardy wagering so I could have gotten more money for the association for Women in Sports Media, because I, I, I think a hundred thousand dollars for them is a. Is going to be a lot of money. They are. I didn't want to say this on tv, even though they told me to. It was. The charity has been since the pandemic. I know a lot of businesses have been struggling. They took a real hit from, you know, campuses going online and, and all that, and they have been financially struggling. So I think that, like, this money can really, really help. And if you're listening to this and it matters, can also donate, because I, I think they'll take any money they can get. But I do wish that I had gotten just a little bit more money for them. And instead I was trying to get them the million and ended up getting them because I went all in less than that.

[A]

But I think, I think you did a really Good job of explaining to America what this organization was in a real way. And also, I think you persuaded everyone in America that it's a worthwhile cause. Except for Christopher Maloney.

[C]

Yeah. He still thinks it's dumb.

[A]

Yeah. He's still. Still hates your guts.

[C]

Well, damn.

[B]

Stabler's out there on the streets.

[C]

Still believe in lyme disease for him. So tick that box. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, we did it. We did Jeopardy. It happened. And I think this sets me up for a nice redemption arc.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Also, poach. I. I still take issue with poach not being correct.

[D]

Hey, maniacs. Should I boil my lobster or do this to it in a basket?

[C]

It.

[D]

Which I've heard gets the meat more tender.

[C]

Katie, what is poach?

[D]

Sorry, no. Lisa Ann, what is steam?

[A]

Steam.

[D]

That's the better wordle word.

[A]

Yeah, the one syllable.

[C]

It was best wordle words. It was so it was five letter words. And it said it's a way to cook lobster, that it makes it more juicy. And I said, P, O, A, C, H, poach. And they. The answer was steam.

[A]

I'm also just interested by, like, how people reach out to you.

[C]

Okay, so let me say the hardest part was leading up to it. I saw a lot of people. One of them is bookmarked, and I have to actually send this guy a Venmo today. I saw people say, like, can't wait to watch Katie Nolan take it all tomorrow night. Like, I know Katie's gonna win. Some guy said, I signed up for Hulu and have to pay because the week trial is up, and I want to watch you win the final. And so I'm just like, I lose. You just want to say, like, it's so don't do it. I lose. But you can't because you sign a very big NDA that's like, don't tell anybody anything. And so people just kept being like, can't wait to watch Katie Nolan kill it tonight.

[A]

Well, people in people on the side of this glass, by the way, were like, so what do you know? Asking me. And I'm like, I don't. I authentically don't. Katie has said nothing.

[C]

Yeah. And so it sucked watching people root for you when you know you lose. That's when I said, the thing about athletes is, like, they get to at least experience it when it happens. They don't have to watch everybody watching it. Like, I saw people throughout the episode be like, oh, she's got this in the bag. Now I can go to bed or something. And I'M just like, I don't. But afterwards, everybody has been very, very nice. Everyone was like, you did a great job. I like that you went all in at the end. There have been a couple people that have been like, you should have wagered exactly this amount. That would have been the way that you would win if he got it wrong. And I'm just like, my brain doesn't work like that. My brain does not work like that.

[A]

But it also not helpful right now. I know.

[C]

Like, I. It's.

[B]

Yeah. The.

[C]

The wagering thing this morning was next time, I guess.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that situation. I'll defin be in it.

[C]

Yeah, totally. I'll take this into account when this exact situation. Thanks for the numbers. But it. Everybody's been really, really nice and. Which is good because I really did. I had so much fun. And I think I realized when we were filming the final that, like, Jeopardy. Is a game that's very hard to replicate outside of literally Jeopardy. Like, even when we play it at home. And it's. We have to set the rule of, like, do you have to wait till he's done asking the question before you can say the answer, or do you just, like, yell it out? And the buzzer system is so complicated that there really is no, like, let's play Jeopardy. At home. Um, I've since learned that every Jeopardy Clue ever and its answer or question, I guess, is available on. They have, like, a website that keeps track of every episode of Jeopardy. What was asked, what was answered, all that. Which is very cool, and I use it all the time now. Um, but it's very hard to do that. And so I'm like, this is an experience that I've wanted to be able to participate in that I'm only gonna get to do these three times, so I might as well enjoy it. Have fun doing it. Like, I got to play Jeopardy. And it wasn't some, like, party where somebody made up the answers and had to.

[B]

There's a guy right now cutting construction paper listening to this. He's cutting blue construction paper to do the things. He goes, well, that's what I was gonna do this weekend for my birthday.

[C]

Still, like, you can do it, but you just don't have the technology to do the like. But it's just. I don't know. I really loved it. It was really fun. It was. I don't know. In hindsight, it was cool because I guess a lot of people thought I was stupid and now they don't. There were so many people that were like, I didn't know you were smart. I'm like, that's crazy. I've been talking down barrel for a lot, most of my career. I think a lot of people assumed that things were written for me, which just then brings up a whole new bunch of frustration, which leads me to.

[A]

A charity that I want you to know about.

[C]

Women in sports media. Not. Not stupid, very smart. Oftentimes write their own thing. Believe it or not, they let us do the typing and the talking. But no, it's just really fun. It was a really fun thing. I know. It was. Make a wish. I know. As everyone has been pointing out to me in the Internet that Mina and Pablo would both beat me probably.

[A]

I would like to say that what I found out watching Katie Nolan play celebrity Jeopardy. Is that she would have wiped the floor with.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Not. No, I. I mean that.

[C]

That.

[A]

That's not just the thing that I'm saying. You. It was really legitimately impressive.

[C]

It was my sport.

[B]

My buddy.

[C]

For me.

[B]

My buddy Joe called me and he was watching at home and he was like, hit it. Paused. He was watching the semifinals and he called me. So when I was in Kansas City, he goes, I'm watching the semifinals with Katie. I think I could take her in Jeopardy. And I had to do this real moment where I go, joe, I love you. You're hilarious. One of my favorite people.

[C]

Who is this?

[B]

Joe Alexander, the guy that I did comedy with that he left. We're still friends. Yeah, Joe. Bo. Just Bo. But he. I was like, should kick the. Out of you. I go, I play. I. We watch Jeopardy. Every night. She would floor you. And then he went, man, all right. Yeah. Because I'm watching it, and I'm like, dude, you just have no idea. I watch Jeopardy. With her every night there. She would smoke me. Like, the amount of answers.

[C]

He could do it too.

[B]

The amount of answers that she just has. And we're not talking about celebrity Jeopardy. Questions because obviously they soften. They nerf them a little bit it. But like, when we hit certain topics, dude, she's on top of it. She's very good.

[C]

And then there's other topics where I'm just tap out.

[B]

Yeah, but that's. Jeopardy.

[C]

Plays. I don't know.

[B]

Oh, composers, Composers.

[A]

Classical composers.

[B]

Would you get that?

[A]

That was rough. Mo Rocco was on top of it, though.

[C]

I got Tchaikovsky.

[A]

You did?

[C]

It's one, like, very famous, very popular.

[B]

There's certain subjects that we both know to guess one or the other. Ansel Adams with photography, Tchaikovsky with composers.

[C]

Or I Know Chekhovsk. I knew. You keep saying that. I did know that.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

You told me history in college in Swan Lake is a ballet.

[B]

You told me that. It was a complete guess.

[C]

No, I didn't. You're lying. Um, there's also a. A in Jeopardy lore. There's. I forget what they're called. Pavlovs, which are, like, if they say this Swedish physicist. Those two words together should bring up a name for you and I. People study those, which I think is really smart.

[A]

Does this change how you will watch Jeopardy. Going forward?

[C]

The first. So. Okay. One thing they don't tell you about Jeopardy. Is that your wrong answers or the ones you miss will haunt you forever.

[A]

I was gonna also ask that. What are you most haunted by?

[C]

Appetite for Destruction. Not getting that in the semi final. That hurt my feelings. One dance by Drake. Not getting that in the semi final, hurt my feelings. And like, anytime those things come up now, like, if somebody plays that song, I'm like, which isn't its fault, it's my fault. But I'm just like, ew, turn this off. Like, the. Everything you got wrong or everything you didn't buzz in on, but you had right. Like, those things are just gonna haunt you forever. When we first came back from the final, from losing the final, I think we took some time off at Jeopardy. I don't think we watched it for like a month. Yeah, we have a backed up DVR now because we didn't talk about it. We didn't, like, address it specifically. Of, like, we are not gonna watch Jeopardy. But, like, because he loves me and is a sweetheart. It just did. We didn't. We watched other stuff during. And I think it was just. We needed a break. I needed a break from like, oh, here it is. The thing. I just really wanted to win and I lost. Let's watch it again. But now we're back. We're back into watching it, and I still love it.

[B]

You keep. You know, if you lose the super bowl, you keep ESPN off for a couple.

[C]

Just for a couple. Yeah, you don't want to hear the.

[B]

You don't want to see the parade coverage. You just not trying to see that stuff.

[C]

But look, I think in general, culturally, right now, we're in a place where it's not cool to take an L. So I'm proud to take my L.

[B]

Took a great L. And to say.

[C]

That I worked hard, I had fun. I think I did. I've seen a lot of people say that. I've got a new fan. Unfortunately, I have nowhere to direct them to right now except this podcast. I don't have any welcome. But I, I, I think I'm proud of the way that I performed and I also feel like if I were to get another shot that I could, I could go at it again.

[A]

So I, I'm, so you are formally calling out Lisa Ann Walters?

[C]

Oh, no. I loved her.

[A]

To come to Pablo Torre finds out champion.

[B]

You a paper champion. Can I say something that happened after the taping that I thought was really cool, which was Michael Davies pulled Katie aside while they were doing the post game interview with Lisa Ann. You know the trend right now in sports that got losers of football games, of bowls or of championships. You see the one player stand out there in his full uni and watch.

[A]

The trust in someone else's confetti.

[B]

That's, that was Katie. Katie was standing there.

[C]

I wanted to listen to what she said.

[A]

This is Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, arm in arm watching the Miami Heat.

[B]

Yeah, she was just sitting there with confetti coming down, watching it. She had her hands on her shoulder pads. You know, she had her mouthpiece in her helmet and she was just sitting there watching. And then like, you know, equipment guys are coming up and patting her going, you had a good season. And she's just sitting there watching. And there's this really cool thing where Michael Davies pulled Katie aside and I was with, you know, fe. Katie and I were together and he showed her. She had the highest percentage of buzzes to completion. She had the highest shot field goal percentage of anyone in the tournament.

[A]

Executive producer of Jeopardy. Michael Dave.

[B]

Michael Davis, the executive producer of Jeopardy. Highest field goal percentage in the tournament book. It pretty big. Big goddamn news to me.

[C]

Thanks, honey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The real, the real God Thumb.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[C]

It was this one.

[B]

No God, no Masters.

[A]

Just thumbs up.

[C]

He's got some real talents. My guy.

[B]

Yeah, man, that was. I'm very proud of you.

[C]

It was fun. It's over. It was over.

[A]

All legitimately.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Proud of you and, and, and grateful for letting us chronicle your engagement through the lens of a network game show.

[C]

Truly, though, thank you for letting me come here and talk about it because I think if I all I had was like a Twitter to just like respond to people, it would be amazing. Mess and being able to come here and kind of like decompress. It's really helpful and, and you know, thank you to everybody who rooted for me. It was very encouraging. Even though I knew what happened, it was really, it was nice to see.

[A]

Yeah, I just gotta say that that relationship makes me happy. It warms my heart to know that Katie Nolan and Dan Soder are there for each other like that, just as my production staff is for me. And I want to thank them. Here. Michael Antonucci, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Loman, Rachel Miller Howard Ethan Schreier, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Chris Tominello and Juliet Warren. Studio engineering by RG Systems Post production as always by NGW Post. Our theme song by John Bravo. We will talk to you next week.