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Mark Roberts
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Pablo Torre
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Mark Roberts
Hey.
Pablo Torre
Hello.
Mark Roberts
Hello. Mr. Pablo.
Pablo Torre
Mark Roberts.
Mark Roberts
Finally at last, after all this time.
Pablo Torre
Man, I. I am so.
Mark Roberts
It's gonna be worth it. I'm telling you now.
Pablo Torre
Oh, no, no, no. The pleasure is all on this end. Can you explain where we are reaching you right now? Where are you, man?
Mark Roberts
Yeah, I'm in Liverpool, where I live, which is not far from Manchester. We don't talk about Manchester around these parts.
Pablo Torre
Well, the great exports from Liverpool, of course. It's. It's the Beatles, followed by. Let me just say this objectively. The undisputed greatest nudist in modern civilization.
Mark Roberts
Entertainer, not nudist. I don't do Beaches. There's not enough people on them. I'm a performance artist.
Pablo Torre
You are a man with an unparalleled resume. Public in private. Public in his privates. It is a remarkable delight. Mark Roberts, even though you're wearing a shirt to have you on. Pablo Torre finds out.
Mark Roberts
Sorry to disappoint.
Pablo Torre
What is the alternate timeline? What is the Mark Roberts who never streaked at the Rugby Sevens final in Hong Kong? What is the life? What is the job you're doing right now, do you think?
Mark Roberts
My normal job?
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Mark Roberts
I'm a painter. Paint. A decorator. I make people's houses look lovely, make them look nice. And a couple of people even asked me to do it naked. And the one thing I guarantee I didn't never leave any streaks on my work. And my painting name is Vincent Van Cock.
Pablo Torre
Just to get the visuals for people who are merely listening and not watching on YouTube. Although I should tell them, everybody listening, it is safe to watch on. On YouTube, at least for now. Your exhibitionism, your entertainment, your. Your way of life. Typically, this is a characteristic that one might presume originates from a desire to brag, from a desire to flaunt what you got down there.
Mark Roberts
Not at all. Nothing to do with that whatsoever. I just happen to find I can make tens of thousands of people laugh by running naked. For me, I don't even think about being naked, to be honest. I mean, when I'm naked, it looks like there's nothing there anyway. But I can make stadiums roar with laughter by doing something crazy in the space of a minute. It's not a case of look at me. It's a case of taking the piss out of authority, but also enhancing some kind of sporting event.
Pablo Torre
For those who are wondering, your endowment is something you would describe as. As what?
Mark Roberts
Chicken McNugget? Is it definitely a Happy Meal.
Pablo Torre
Part of the reason why I wanted to talk to you is because there was an article recently in the Atlantic called the Decline of Streaking, in which academics declared it as such a, quote, unquote, dying art that now remains, quote, on the sporting periphery. And I wonder how you feel about you being now yourself, this endangered species.
Mark Roberts
Well, I've always been an endangered species, to be honest with you, Pablo. But as far as streaking's concerned, in the 70s, early 80s, it was a trend for A while. Then I took it up in the early 90s to the present day, but not so much now. I used to be very, very prolific. Every year, every time I did something, it made news all over the world.
Pablo Torre
Little disturbance here in the arena and there's a slight delay before the game resumes.
Mark Roberts
So I've been doing it for now, what, but 33 years? 578 times in 27 countries. I've done everything. I've done three Olympics, I've raced Usain Bolt. You know, I've done it. I've done it. I've done it all.
Pablo Torre
I can't speak for Liverpool, but I have a hope that maybe we can make America streak again.
Mark Roberts
If America can't do it, who can? I will lead the way. If you want, I will come and we'll do a mass streak in front of the White House. Let's do that ridiculous president that you've got. Let's streak him. I streaked him onto the Queen three times, and the third time she went, oh, look, there's Mark.
Pablo Torre
Mark, I want to get into the history of this because you are a part of an ancient tradition and you could date it back to, I don't know, Lady Godiva. Right. Naked on a horse. I could go back to, certainly the American college system. At Harvard, there is a tradition before exams every year called Primal Scream in which all the Harvard students streak Harvard yard. My roommate streaked Harvard Yard with GoldenFallus.com written across his back in no small homage, no small homage to the man that I am talking to today. But it's Princeton, it's Maryland, it's Michigan, it's Notre Dame. Everybody has their version of streaking in college.
Mark Roberts
Sorry.
Pablo Torre
We're going, we're going. Streaking through the quad and into the gymnasium. Come on, everybody. Come on.
Mark Roberts
See, before I'd even thought about streaking, going on this adventure, I didn't know anything about it. I. I remember vaguely. America was a very, very instrumental in the streaking craze, as you know, in the 70s. And. And so I'm surprised it didn't happen in the 60s.
Pablo Torre
Free love and all that. Yeah. It seems, Mark, that the first streak at a sporting event was on your side of the pond. It was 1974, Twickenham, otherwise known as the international home of rugby.
Mark Roberts
Michael o', Brien, he was an accountant. Not very iconic because he looks like Jesus with the policeman with his helmet over his willy. The guy has turned around and said it's the worst thing he ever did in his life. I think it Cost him his job, caused problems with his relationship. But you know what? I'd lose my job for something like that. There's a lady called Erica Rowe.
Pablo Torre
Erica Rowe, 82, Twickenham, at a big.
Mark Roberts
Rugby game in the UK. She had very big, big breasts. She ran on the field with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth.
Pablo Torre
She's smoking a cigarette.
Mark Roberts
I met the lady, actually, years later.
Pablo Torre
The police officers here, I assume a lot happier to see her, all of her, than they are to see Mark Roberts.
Mark Roberts
Well, what? I don't know. Every time I get arrested, the police beg me not to stop. The police love what I do. Allegedly. And this is straight up serious. They love it.
Pablo Torre
Why do they love it, Mark?
Mark Roberts
Because they're laughing their heads off like the same everybody else in the stadium when they're chasing me, they're absolutely in stitches.
Pablo Torre
I want to just ask you about one of the other famous 70s episodes, the Oscars Streaker.
Mark Roberts
The award for the best picture is never lightly given.
Pablo Torre
Right, so you're familiar with his work?
Mark Roberts
I am. I've seen it a few times.
Pablo Torre
It's 1974, contributor to World Entertainment and someone, quite likely, he flashes the peace sign on national tv and it's just like a very awkward cutaway. But we do have this still frame in which this mustachioed long haired gentleman is flashing the peace sign over the right shoulder of David Niven, the host.
Mark Roberts
That's cool, man. Yeah.
Pablo Torre
And David Niven says probably the only.
Mark Roberts
Laugh that man will ever get in his life is by stripping off and showing his shortcomings. That's up there. That's near the top, actually. Getting on stage at the Oscars, that's a feat in itself. But doing it. Peace sign, that's got to be. It's not a 10, that's. It's eight and a half, nine.
Pablo Torre
The statistics here, right? So it's been more than 33 years. You've been doing this 578 streaks since you popped your streaking cherry, as it were, that first time. How vividly do you remember your first time? Where were you?
Mark Roberts
Like it was yesterday. Literally like it was yesterday, man. That day changed my life. 1993, Hong Kong, man. Yeah, it was. That was the island. Hong Kong Island. Then was. That was the place to be in the hole on the planet. I mean, from a drunken day in a bar the night before to getting dragged out of the apartment. I had no intentions of streaking. It was. I was drunk, talking, talking. Basically, gets home 4am told everyone has got a streak at the final The Rugby Sevens. Comatose on the couch at 4am Next thing, just banging on with the apartment door. Come on, we're going to Sevens. I couldn't open my eyes. I was. I was gone. Still gone now. Oh, open the door. I'm gonna kick this door in. So as I've opened the door, I'm still dressed from the night before because I was lying on the couch. My friends just grabbed hold of me, threw me in the elevator, straight into a waiting taxi, straight to the stadium. So we've gone in the stadium and I'm like, what the. I wasn't together. I couldn't hardly open my eyes. Take me to the bar. So I've gone straight to the bar. I've had a beer that's made me feel worse. I've had another beer, didn't do any good at all, man. So I had a shot that sort of got me a little bit level. So I said, I'm going to look into the stadium, because I hadn't even seen it. But as I've stuck my head in to the stadium, wow, man. One of the first things I saw was a guy with a French flag around his shoulders swinging a live chicken around his head. I going, what the, man? Everyone's partying, throwing beer at each other. It was a carnival full of energy. Everybody was buzzing. So I've woken up from this drunken stupor. I said to my friend, I'm going to do it now. So I've gone down the main stand, there's 65,000 people in the stadium. Took me clothes off, and I've ran on while the New Zealand All Blacks were playing South Africa, the two biggest rugby teams in the world. So I've run on backwards, waved to everybody, okay, I've done it. But as I've turned around, there's the ball. So my head just went, get that ball, man. So I've run, picked up the ball, run a whole length of the field and scored a try, Scored a touchdown in between the posts. The whole crowd went absolutely nuts. Everyone's on their feet, screaming their heads up. I was like, wow, man, wow. Just started to wave. So I'm running back to my seat. Some of the All Blacks were applauding. I took the ball and the best team in the world scored against them. Jumped back over the barrier. So next thing, oh, I've got my dick out. So I'm covering myself up. Girls are going over, kissing me, hugging me. People are pouring bees over me head. I went, no, this is fantastic, man. I didn't give A. So there's an English policeman walking along, and he's going. He's motioning for me to go. I'm going, no, because now I'm feeling the energy. Now I wasn't. Now I'm staying here. No, he's come to me, said, listen, I gave the opportunity to go. I'm gonna have to throw you out the stadium. I said, I don't give a. As he's taking me out the whole stadium. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. 65,000 people. He's taking me down a tunnel ahead. Streaker. I've looked up. There's a guy with two jugs of Carlsberg. Bang. One over me, one went over the cop. Copper's laughing his head off as he's taking me out the door. Somebody shook my hand and put something in the palm of my hand. So the policeman said, if I see you near again, I'm going to arrest you. I said, no, no, I'm done. So as he threw me at one turnstile. I've looked at my hand, it was a free pass. So I've come back in the next turnstile, come straight back in, jumped on and did it again.
Pablo Torre
You streaked again?
Mark Roberts
Did it again, man. Yeah. Didn't go to try the second time, though. I just legged it.
Pablo Torre
I just need to acknowledge here and jump in that this formative revelation begins with you seeing this almost biblical symbol of a guy waving a live chicken over his head. And it culminates, it climaxes in you swinging your own around in public.
Mark Roberts
Swinging my around?
Pablo Torre
Yeah. Just.
Mark Roberts
Are you swinging a. I'm swinging my.
Pablo Torre
I want to just get into your psychology just for a second here. Your intentions when you hit the field, the court, the track. What's the physiological kind of description you would give, man?
Mark Roberts
The adrenaline. Before I go on, Pablo is nuts. My heart is beating like you would, like bongo drums, man. But I've got to look normal, very calm, just like every other member of the public. I can't bring any attention to myself. All I'm doing is looking, watching security, the corner of my eyes. I've picked a place to go on. If that place is taken by security, I've got to go and find another place. All in the time they've picked to actually go on. But the main thing is you want to hear 70, 80,000 people roar, scream, cheer. And when that goes off, the energy I get from all that gives me that extra speed and then the chase. I've got to be chased, man. I want to see how many police insecurity it takes to catch me. Or it did do it a bit slower nowadays. And that's the roar goes from that to a crescendo because of the chase. So number one, entertain. Entertain the crowd. Don't interrupt the game and take the piss out of authority. It's giving the finger to authority, man. Do you know what I mean? I've got a new tattoo for me. Can you see that?
Pablo Torre
We can.
Mark Roberts
That's the way to get me fingerprints.
Pablo Torre
It says go the other way. There it is no other way. Now you're just making a very lewd act. Yeah, you is what it says. As you are dragging your middle finger of your right hand across the front of our.
Mark Roberts
Yeah, you sideways, man.
Pablo Torre
I want to get into your brain though because why were you in Hong Kong in the first place? What was it like to be you?
Mark Roberts
Well, I left the UK to see the world. I had 30 English pounds in my pocket on a one way ticket to Hong Kong. I knew one guy over there who was a manager of a bar. He said he'd give me a job. There was the freedom just to be whatever you want to be. Then the Rugby Sevens was two months in. After that I was known as the mad streaker. All my innermost things came out. You know, I could. There was no cloud over my head. So I eventually came home with the energy inside me. But obviously the UK is a different thing altogether from Hong Kong because after a while I didn't. Streaking was just Hong Kong. That was. That was for me. But after being back in the UK for a while it was back to normality and back to day to day. And then the Liverpool football matches on and went. The season's average of around 42,000 at Anfield doesn't look like dropping. So what a setting. And that's when I looked into streaking. Nobody'd streaked in the UK for years. Year, decades. I'll do it. Yeah. But I did it for charity for a children's hospital. Went around collecting money for kids. And when I went on it was wow, an incredible story. The whole stadium again. Crazy one.
Pablo Torre
I want to show people what you showed people. We have video of it. This is live in the uk. It is live on a show called this Morning.
Mark Roberts
Hi. Hello. Hi. Hope you had a great summer.
Pablo Torre
We did this morning for the American audience. How would you describe a show like that?
Mark Roberts
The English version of Good Morning America?
Pablo Torre
For the fact that here in Liverpool.
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Mark Roberts
The rest of the country is bathing in sunshine.
Pablo Torre
And we see on this Morning show. The weatherman. He's kind of like hopping along what appears to be a giant map of the UK that is sort of like a set. It looks like a mini golf course, but it's green and it's literally the shape of the United Kingdom, the whole of the uk.
Mark Roberts
It's a floating weather map.
Pablo Torre
And so presumably off screen, there's a place that, like, observers can come and watch the live taping. And so, as this weatherman in his jaunty giant blue sweater, is hopping from island to island, from place to place, giving us the weather report. It's 1995, and the next thing that happens that you see on air is this.
Mark Roberts
We could have little problem here. How am I going to cope with this? Right. Quite expected.
Pablo Torre
Offered a handshake to Fred. Turns out his name is.
Mark Roberts
That's a nice bum as well, isn't it?
Pablo Torre
I mean, it's well sculpted. Hard to disagree with that.
Mark Roberts
Oh, yeah. Full moon at 12 o'. Clock.
Pablo Torre
This was the very first televised streak you ever did.
Mark Roberts
I believe the camera went off me and the two presenters went, no, no, no, go back on. It's only human flesh. Put it back on.
Pablo Torre
One of the things you figured out pretty early in the ongoing innovation of streaking is writing on yourself. And I want to take us now. It's 95. It is St Andrews. Is this the final round of the.
Mark Roberts
124Th British Open Championship?
Pablo Torre
The home of golf, the most religious holy site in maybe the most staid and cloistered sport in the world. It's Sunday now. It's John Daly going for his first major.
Mark Roberts
John Daly does what he always does.
Pablo Torre
Grip it and rip it. It is the 18th hole that we're being transported to at the moment. And where were you as the 18th hole is getting underway?
Mark Roberts
I was not far from the hole itself on the 18th. I've met a group of friends and we got by the barriers and I've said, as soon as the ball goes in the hole, I'm not going to do it while he's putting. As soon as it goes in the hole, I'm on. And then this guy we'd met the day before, there's pictures all over me, getting chased by a guy who looks like he's trying to rugby tackle me.
Pablo Torre
Yeah, there he is.
Mark Roberts
We met him the day before driving into a car park. He was charging five pound for a car park and we found out later it was a free car park and he was just charging everyone £5 to park the car.
Pablo Torre
So this guy who allegedly Was charging people for free parking spots. He is now holding your spot. Is. Has held a hat over your penis. What is going on as you are gesturing with a grimace at the moment on the green?
Mark Roberts
Well, because he was chasing me and I was leaving. I was fit. Then the nobody could catch me. I let him rugby tackle me and he gave me a little tap on the cheek. He said I nearly had a heart attack, Mark. But he just wanted to get in on the fun, you know, he was just part of the. Part of the joke.
Pablo Torre
Well, part of the. The scene here that's essential is that what you have written on your back is just an all timer 19th hole with a giant arrow at your hole. You're doing it at St. Andrews, Mark. You know the context of what it is to do it at the Open.
Mark Roberts
So what do you know what I mean? All these people are all stuck up, you know, oh, you can't do this. You can't do that. Well, I'm going to show you I can. It's like Wimbledon's the same, you know.
Pablo Torre
Let'S get to Wimbledon. So it is the year 2000 and the context here is that Anna Kournikova.
Mark Roberts
At 19, she's the tennis world's cover girl sensation. But can she step up her game for a Grand Slam title? The championships, Wimbledon on NBC. Well, this, I was out. I was stood outside Wimbledon in a queue waiting to go in. And the ball, a billboard went past on the side of a van with hair. Advert.
Pablo Torre
There is an ad. This is a lingerie ad, to be clear. And the text here, again, it's a black and white photo. She is in her bra and panties and it says only the ball should bounce, Period.
Mark Roberts
I was on my own. I had to go into a toilet, a lavatory, lock the door and write that on myself. Only the balls bounce again.
Pablo Torre
You're a vision, Mark. You're a vision. Only the balls bounce. Ridden from solar plexus down to above your navl in black marker. It looks like as you are streaking to be now pedantic about this, you are obviously naked, but you are also doing something else on the green that is watered by centuries of the most precious rain. Because there's another photograph. You are also doing a bit of a swan dive over the net.
Mark Roberts
Over the net? Yeah. Perfect.
Pablo Torre
The form is just impeccable. That is Olympic form.
Mark Roberts
Crazy thing is the nets have got alarms on them. So the slightest touch on the net sets off the alarm. I cleared it easy by an inch.
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Wow. The Happy Meal came in Real helpful.
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The 2002 Commonwealth Games though I want to do a pit stop here because this is a golden jubilee. What does that mean?
Mark Roberts
It's like the Queen's anniversary of so many years on the throne.
Pablo Torre
We're back with Queen Elizabeth.
Mark Roberts
Her Majesty the Queen and his Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh.
Pablo Torre
Circuit this brand new wonderful looking stadium.
Mark Roberts
Me and Liz, we dead close like that. Told you she wanted to knight me.
Pablo Torre
That is an index finger and a middle finger with again you tattooed across it. Just crossing.
Mark Roberts
Oh, I. Sorry. Not. I didn't mean that one. Not with Liz. I don't want to say you to Liz. No. Cuz she was a lovely lady. I've been around there for tea a few times.
Pablo Torre
But what. What we're looking at Here, because this is where we have acquired exclusive behind the scenes video from a source close to your. Oh yeah, this is 2002. It is July 27th and there's a man in the bottom who's looking up into the right.
Mark Roberts
So victory ceremonies for the men's 100 meters, women's 100 meters. That's me.
Pablo Torre
And you're wearing a short.
Mark Roberts
The police were waiting for me everywhere.
Pablo Torre
You're wearing slacks, black slacks. And you're now motoring. And there goes the shirt. There go the pants. An impressive just ripped.
Mark Roberts
Listen to the crowd, man.
Pablo Torre
Tear away pants. Oh. Knee down starting blocks well tanned.
Mark Roberts
New commonwealth record. Slowest ever hundred meters.
Pablo Torre
Oh my God, the mechanics of that. We gotta just walk through this because tear away pants. This is a tool. A tool of your tool, a tool of your trade.
Mark Roberts
I'm the face of Velcro without them. They have helped me so much because I can be right next to a policeman. As soon as his head turns the other way, I'm over the barrier and I'm naked. In seconds it's off, gone. I've gone like the wind.
Pablo Torre
If only the wind had a Nike swoosh tattooed onto its back.
Mark Roberts
I was trying to encourage Nike to get in touch, but they didn't.
Pablo Torre
Well, if anybody has embodied the slogan of just do it, I don't believe that there is anyone more prominent than than you, Mark.
Mark Roberts
In fact, Nike did a TV commercial. I think we've got extra man on the pitch and they based it on me. I don't know that so far he's giving the police nothing but a good look at his backside. He did it at Arsenal's ground in London. Guy naked running through. Oh dear. That's an image gonna stay with me for a very long time.
Matt Chatham
Scorched onto my retina.
Mark Roberts
So why didn't he get me to do it instead?
Pablo Torre
I'd like to take up that cause. Actually, now that you mention it, I want to address Nike explicitly here. Get this man his fair due or.
Mark Roberts
Or even at Adidas. All day I dream about stre through.
Pablo Torre
The screen I feel it. The vivid sensation of what it's like to run and be chased by that point.
Mark Roberts
The adrenaline's through the roof because I've achieved the objective already. That's the elating part. I'm joyous, you know, because the worry about being able to do what I set out to do, I've passed that point of view. So now I'm full of joy. So what I'm running. I'm usually laughing. My head Off.
Pablo Torre
What do you call it? The feeling right before you get caught.
Mark Roberts
I call it the G spot because everyone enjoys it when I get there.
Pablo Torre
And I cannot believe we haven't gotten here yet, but you are on an expense report from golden palace.com.
Mark Roberts
Yeah, yeah, mom, that's a repay for everything. I'd done a couple events for them and they rang me and said, listen, we've got tickets for the biggest thing in America. I said, what? The Oscars. We've got tickets for the Oscars. I went, no, don't you mean. I said, that's not the biggest thing. The super bowl is the biggest thing in the States. So you're talking about you can't do the Super Bowl. I said, why not? It's never been done. Can't be done. Security's too tight. I said, you get me tickets and I'll show you it can be done.
Pablo Torre
As I try to understand just like what the greatest of all time at streaking has encountered in America at the highest possible level, we go to. Super Bowl 38 sets the stage for a worldwide audience for all the marbles. Super Bowl 38 and Super Bowl 38 is even absent. Everything we're about to discuss here one of the most iconic, memorable, infamous Super Bowls sporting events in human history. It is Patriots, panthers. It is February 1, 2004. It is Houston. The halftime performer, Mark, of course, is who?
Mark Roberts
Janet Jackson. I didn't even know she'd done that. I was, I was at the halftime shows going on. I'm at the back warming up.
Pablo Torre
She was opening for you. In other words, she was flashing less intentionally. It turns out she was flashing the world. And you back wherever you were were, were warming up. And so where were you at your point of entry?
Mark Roberts
I guess while the offtime show was going on, I was the back talking to a friend. I'm going on just before the third quarter starts. But security and police were everywhere around the field. We had front row seats on the 50 yard line, best seats in the house.
Pablo Torre
Amazing.
Mark Roberts
To give me the best chance to get on to the ball, it raises.
Pablo Torre
The question of how does the most notorious streaker in the world in modern civilization, how is he able to stand near the 50 yard line in plain sight as the most visible event in the world is happening?
Mark Roberts
We were sitting down on the seats. There was a wall with maybe a 15 foot drop. So when I'm going to go, I'm going to have to drop. But as I say, there's many police and security around the field. This one guy, one Security all the way through the game, stood right face on my line, did not move a muscle for four hours, Pablo, four hours. And I said to my friend, if he doesn't move, you go down the wall, drop your phone, go to climb down the wall today so he comes to you. So I've got a clear room to get onto the field. The one time I wanted to go, he moved.
Pablo Torre
There's a changing of the guard, man.
Mark Roberts
He walked over to speak to another security guard further down. The one time I wanted to go on, I said to me, friend, go. So I had my own clothes, I took them off. Now I'm a referee. I've got a referee's uniform on, of course, that I got from the NFL.
Pablo Torre
Wait, how did you get a referee's uniform from the NFL?
Mark Roberts
I wrote to the NFL and I told them I wanted to be start an American football team in the uk, but I couldn't get any referees uniforms. The NFL sent me two. I said, thank you very much. You. Yeah, thank you very much. I took a uniform to a seamstress, got her to take it all apart and put it back together again with Velcro.
Pablo Torre
And all of this takes us now officially into what I remember. And then Bill Belichick says, history tells us in the second half, a lot.
Mark Roberts
Goes on in these super bowl games.
Pablo Torre
So the first time I personally remember laying eyes on Mark Roberts was the third quarter. As play by play announcer Greg Gumbel on CBS is getting us going.
Matt Chatham
Panthers will kick it away to start the second half.
Mark Roberts
Here we go.
Pablo Torre
And there in the bottom left, you.
Mark Roberts
Begin to on the 40 yard line, isn't it? Yeah.
Pablo Torre
Pushing through in regulation garb as the kickoff is getting ready.
Mark Roberts
And here we go, right in the middle there, kicks come off right over.
Pablo Torre
The super bowl logo. The, the, the, the Roman numerals. My God.
Mark Roberts
We have a surprise guest on the.
Pablo Torre
Field right over the Roman numerals for Super Bowl 38.
Mark Roberts
Well, the halftime entertainment apparently never stops.
Pablo Torre
When you're doing that, are the players acknowledging you like what is happening as you are making your way?
Mark Roberts
I've gone on as a referee, stopped the kickoff for the third quarter.
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
Mark Roberts
One of the players shouted, what's up, ref? Man? Mara went all, just started dancing, ripped me clothes off, I'm naked. Started dancing around the ball. So all the players are going, what's the referee doing? They thought the referee's lost his mind.
Pablo Torre
That's an understanding.
Mark Roberts
Dancing around the board. Yeah, Here we go. Kit off, have some of that.
Pablo Torre
And this video that we have of what was not shown on the broadcast are remarkable, just blurring and unblurring of a total eclipse of your, of your moon. Is that tape you're wearing? What is, what is your underwear here?
Mark Roberts
The very last thing before I left the hotel, I forgot I can't get me out in Texas. So that's a deflated American football that was on the table in the hotel room. So I've taped it around so nothing could pop out. But I needed, I needed a piss. And it was the worst hardest piss I've ever had in my life. The plan was to pick up the ball and try and score a touchdown, but I decided just to dance instead.
Pablo Torre
You have the announcer, Phil Sims is asking, he actually asks on the broadcast.
Mark Roberts
And what do you call that dance, silly?
Pablo Torre
Well, and now we know that you.
Mark Roberts
Would call it an Irish bog stomp. It's a bad body, I'll tell you that. And there's too much of it being shown. Well, let's check out the halftime numbers.
Pablo Torre
America runs the away. But as you make history, Danish television gives us this.
Mark Roberts
Listen to the crowd. Here we go. Bang.
Pablo Torre
And that bang. By the way, number 58, Matt Chatham. Matt Chatham, 6 foot 4, 250, Patriots linebacker, by the way, a three time Super bowl champion in the end who happens to. By the way, I don't know if you know this mark, he runs a barbecue dry rub company now. And we called him up to ask about the bit of dry rub that he gave you because he laid you all the way out.
Matt Chatham
Name is Matt Chatham. Fortunate enough to be on three Super Bowls. Excuse me. To win three Super Bowls. I guess it always sounds weird when an individual says they won a Super bowl, but I think you know what I mean. It's kind of our wedding day or whatever you want to call it. So I, I, I, this guy, he does this sign in the seventh inning of a, of a May baseball game. Okay. It's, it's hilarious. Yeah.
Mark Roberts
Haha.
Matt Chatham
But this just, this rubbed me the wrong way and always will.
Pablo Torre
And, and as we watch, just more of the alternate angle footage here of this. You know, this is, it's fairly violent, I will say, as you're kind of like bog stomping around. It's the kickoff. Yeah. And there he goes, just knocking you.
Mark Roberts
That's great. That was a perfect ending to the Super Bowl.
Pablo Torre
Laid you out horizontal. Matt enacted justice on behalf of, I guess, the United States of America with what he calls, quote unquote, a love tap.
Matt Chatham
It was, you know, a 2 out of 10 kind of violence just to, just to get him gone. I mean I just don't think people realize how big NFL people are. But you know, I'm 250 plus or whatever. You're all padded up, you know, that's not full stride. But you know if you're, you're running a pretty good amount and run into a guy like that, he's going to go flying.
Mark Roberts
Yeah. Didn't feel a thing. My nan, my grandmother hits harder than that and she's dead.
Matt Chatham
Part of my reaction was definitely annoyance as much as anything. You know, we've been, we've been prepped in previous years and especially this one is in times of war, times of conflict, all this stuff that it's really heightened security and you know, nobody's supposed to be in this building that's not out there playing football and, and I think other guys would echo this. Like you're so intensely focused on this thing. It's not that like I haven't seen a billion streaker things on baseball games or you know, whatever else and chuckled like everyone else and maybe rewatch a video or something. But in that moment it was like sort of you know, doing whoopee cushion during the wedding. It's like those are funny but not funny now. Right? Like just don't do that now. This is, this is actually pretty serious.
Pablo Torre
You've single handedly infiltrated the security state post 9 11.
Mark Roberts
I was scared, man. So scared. What could happen to me on the field post 911 and there's going to be snipers on the roofs, man.
Pablo Torre
Sure.
Mark Roberts
And I'm thinking they can think I'm some kind of weird guy. Well everyone, people might think that anyway, but I mean to do harm and shoot. But I thought if they shoot, they'll shoot in the legs. So I thought I'll take a bullet to the leg to do the Super Bowl.
Pablo Torre
He also called you a jackass.
Matt Chatham
That's why I said jackass. Not like any, any malice against Mark.
Mark Roberts
He's a, a big seven foot set. Seven foot whatever. That's all he is.
Matt Chatham
So NFL securities actually send the tape and they had all these different angles and kind of sent a little thank you note. They were very grateful, you know, because it helped them not have one of those wild scenes where they're chasing the guy around and you're playing the circus music. It was more just bam, bam, beat it, get out of here. And and I think they appreciated that.
Pablo Torre
So you go horizontal, you jackass. And suddenly you're surrounded, man.
Mark Roberts
There's about 20 people over me while I'm getting handcuffed.
Pablo Torre
Yeah. What are you saying to yourself as you're now underneath this pile?
Mark Roberts
I just done the super bowl, man. Literally, I've got my face pushed in the grass, I'm getting handcuffed behind me back. And I also could think of. I just done the Super Bowl. So I got carried off, hogtied into the tunnel. Now I'm thinking, okay, here's where the trouble's really going to start. So because the way he took me out, Matt Chatham, I'm feigning injury. And one of the priests went, put him down, put him down. I'm going, ah. He said, you okay, man? Now you're safe, man. I said, okay, thank you. It says you okay. I said, my sides hurt an officer, I was fine, you know. He said what? He said, why did you do that? I said, I just wanted to make the great people of America laugh. And the policeman went, that was awesome, man. And next thing, all the police started laughing. They loved it, man. Loved it. He said, listen, I'm going to keep you for an hour and then just let you go. Release you. I went, they're gonna. They're gonna not charge me either. And I found out it's the first time the NFL ran security for super bowl because normally it's down to the actual stadium security people to. And I beat them. I beat the shit out of them, man. Next thing, the head of the NFL comes running down some stairs, throw the book at him. He wanted me to. Charged up to the hilt. So I got charged with criminal trespass, got taken to jail. That was scary. Well, the policeman did say to me before I went in the cage, don't make eye contact, don't talk to anybody. Nobody knows what you've done today because they've been locked up all day, don't speak to anybody because if they realize you're British, they might have a reason to create an argument with you. So I've gone in a cage with all this in my head cage full of, I don't know, lunatics. I've got in dress as a referee. All the police were buzzing in the police station. Neil loved it, took me mug shot and they've duplicated it. So I'm signing autographs to all the wives and girlfriends and all that. Put me in the cage with about 30 people. The only place I could lie down was right next to the toilet. So I'm lying on the floor, I've got my knees up and I can hear someone going, look at the referee, man. So I've sat up, all the Velcro's open, and me balls are on show in. In the cage.
Pablo Torre
I just like that something that kind of maybe took you aback as you dressed as a referee in the most convincing possible form was that you found out that even in jail, maybe especially in jail, Americans hate referees.
Mark Roberts
But luckily, everything was okay. I got released in the morning and got flown first class to Hollywood.
Pablo Torre
You exercise your freedom of everything, and you are facing six months of jail time. And they find you guilty of misdemeanor trespassing and $1,000 fine.
Mark Roberts
I wanted to hug them all. In fact, at the end of the court case, they empty the courtroom. So they're just me, my lawyer, the judge, one female judge, prosecutor, and all the jurors have gone into the jury room and all you can hear is laughter. And the judge said to me, Mr. Roberts, in all my years of working in courtrooms, I've never heard that kind of commotion in the jury room. Will you please escort me in? And she linked my arm, the judge. And we walked into the jury room and they all started cheering, all the jurors. It was fantastic.
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Pablo Torre
I understand why it was that it took us a bit to. To. To get you on the show, Mark, because we originally we tried to do it ahead of what we thought might be a streak at the Olympics in Paris. Took a while. Our producer Matt was. Was. Was communicating and I just want to quote the WhatsApp conversation as we put it on screen here. You said to us.
Mark Roberts
It.
Pablo Torre
And you. Your. And then, and then. And then because you were like, what about NBC? Are they gonna get mad at us or, you know, are we gonna get. Yeah, you know, standards, you know, all that stuff. Then we said, what about still having an interview? And you said, quote Matt, who gives a flying ooh, I got a 50k fine. So what if that's a problem to you, then see you later. Followed by I think you guys have no understanding of life. Followed by you. And then. And this is where I was like, I love this man and we must have him on August 12, 2024, you said at 3:30am Eastern Time. Are we still on tomorrow then?
Mark Roberts
Because I was still buzzing. I wanted to go to the Olympics. And you know, the crazy thing about that was as well, the one I wanted to do was the break dancing.
Pablo Torre
Oh, my God.
Mark Roberts
First time break dancing had been. And the Australian woman, Australian politics. Forget that minor election they're trying to conduct in the United States. But what the world's really been interested in is what the hell was Ray Gun up to at the Paris Olympics? That was the event I wanted to do. So. Oh, man, I was gutted. Gutted, but I still wanted to go.
Pablo Torre
I mourn the alternate timeline in which you were break dancing, upstaging Ray Gun naked.
Mark Roberts
I'd have been better than him on.
Pablo Torre
I think I wouldn't have been close. You know, the, The.
Mark Roberts
That's a shame.
Pablo Torre
It's a. It's a shame. But also, I cannot describe your life, your career, and I will call it that now. Your. Your. Your art form as. As anything but an unqualified and unparalleled success story in a race that now so many other people are terrified to run. I don't know if anybody's even coming for the title, man.
Mark Roberts
It'll never be broken, it'll never be beaten, man. Nobody will ever be able to surpass what I've achieved. So I'm proud.
Pablo Torre
Your mom, what did she think of. Of all of this?
Mark Roberts
She's always said, you're nuts. Something wrong with you. And I said, mum, you don't see, you're not there. You don't feel it, what. What the crowd's like. Until eventually I did a. I jumped on stage during a play in Liverpool. I told my brother what I was going to do. So he took me, Mum, not knowing that I was going to jump on stage. And when I jumped on stage, the whole audience is cheering and. And then she. I saw her afterwards when I got throughout. Met her in a bar next door. She said, when I saw you going on, I was going to shout, enough. Now, stop it. But she said, I couldn't stop laughing. She said everyone was laughing. I started laughing, but what you were doing was funny. So she eventually was actually there in real time and she saw what everyone else was seeing, what everybody else got, you know. And actually when she died, well, just before she died, she had a fall. The ambulance came to pick her up from home. And in the ambulance, she said to the ambulance men, do you know who my son is? On the way to the hospital, man, you know, one of the last things she said, man. So even though she kept on saying I was crazy, you know, she was proud of me in the end. So that was nice. Yeah.
Pablo Torre
What does it feel like now? Because how old are you, Mark Roberts? Now, as we speak here today, I'm 60.
Mark Roberts
60 now, I've just been diagnosed with this heart failure as well.
Pablo Torre
I'm sorry to hear that.
Mark Roberts
Yeah, well, get. Get this right. They're giving me tablets to stop adrenaline getting to me heart because my heart's working overtime. So I'm thinking this is. This is a conspiracy by Interpol. They're stopping me buzzing anymore, so I can't go around causing trouble around the world. But, yeah, so I've got to be careful, though.
Pablo Torre
What I found out at the end of today's show is that I don't think there's a person in sports who has experienced, who has felt more adrenaline than Mark Roberts.
Mark Roberts
You haven't seen the last of me yet. Never, Never. I will fight them on the beaches. I've actually written in me. Well, I've wrote a will in it through a solicitor that when I die, I want to go with a Perspex coffin, a clear, naked, so I can streak my own funeral. But I've put a little note at the bottom. While I'm in the mortuary, please put a Viagra down my throat so I can go out in style. And then I want the Pope to bless me.
Pablo Torre
You know, he's a sports fan. Mark Roberts, the greatest of all time. I say this knowing that I won't really have a choice, but I look forward to seeing you again.
Mark Roberts
Thank you, Pablo. It's been an absolute pleasure, my friend.
Pablo Torre
Yes. Yes. Let's get on that WhatsApp.
Mark Roberts
Jane.
Pablo Torre
Yep. Okay.
Mark Roberts
Take it easy, mate. Nice one. Oh, yeah. Have some of this.
Pablo Torre
Oh, God.
Mark Roberts
Wait, wait.
Pablo Torre
What?
Mark Roberts
Have some of that. Have some of them apples. Some of them apples. Ladies, go on.
Pablo Torre
This has been Pablo Torre finds Out a Meadowlark Media production and I'll talk to you next time.
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Hannah Berner
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Paige Desorbo
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Hannah Berner
Yes. Lord knows the girls need to breathe. Also, I need my PJs to breathe and be buttery, soft and stretchy enough for my dramatic tossing and turning at night. That's why I live in my Tommy John pajamas.
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Date: September 9, 2025
Guest: Mark Roberts (legendary streaker)
Host: Pablo Torre
In this riotous and surprisingly heartfelt episode, Pablo Torre sits down with Mark Roberts—the world’s most famous streaker—to unpack his staggering career as a performance artist and the unofficial GOAT of streaking. From pioneering streaks at the world’s biggest sporting events (the Olympics, Wimbledon, the Super Bowl) to the psychology, cultural history, and sheer adrenaline behind his pants-free performances, Roberts bares his soul and tells all. The episode oscillates between rollicking tales of boundary-pushing mischief and thoughtful reflections on joy, rebellion, legacy, and the literal heart-stopping energy of performing for a stadium crowd.
"Entertainer, not nudist. I don’t do beaches—there’s not enough people on them. I’m a performance artist." (03:02)
"It’s not a case of look at me. It’s a case of taking the piss out of authority, but also enhancing some kind of sporting event." (04:32)
"Chicken McNugget? It’s definitely a Happy Meal." (05:14)
"The adrenaline before I go on, Pablo, is nuts. My heart is beating like bongo drums... I’ve got to look normal, very calm... But the main thing is you want to hear 70, 80,000 people roar... then the chase." (15:56)
"Every time I get arrested, the police beg me not to stop. The police love what I do. Allegedly. And this is straight up serious. They love it." (09:28)
"My head just went, get that ball, man... scored a touchdown in between the posts. The whole crowd went absolutely nuts… Jumped back over the barrier. Next thing—oh, I’ve got my dick out. So I’m covering myself up. Girls are kissing me, people pouring beer over me. I went, ‘This is fantastic, man!’" (11:07–15:04)
"So as he threw me at one turnstile I've looked at my hand, it was a free pass. So I've come back in the next turnstile, come straight back in, jumped on and did it again." (15:04)
"So all these people are all stuck up, you know, oh, you can’t do this. You can’t do that. Well, I’m going to show you I can." (23:31)
"I cleared it easy by an inch." (25:03)
"I'm the face of Velcro without them. …As soon as [a policeman’s] head turns the other way, I'm over the barrier and I'm naked. In seconds." (29:00)
Chatham: “It was, you know, a 2 out of 10 kind of violence just to get him gone. …I just don’t think people realize how big NFL people are.” (38:56) Roberts: “Didn’t feel a thing. My nan hits harder than that and she’s dead.” (39:12)
“All the police…loved it, man… All the jurors… cheered.” (41:08–44:03)
“I've always been an endangered species, to be honest with you, Pablo. …Every year, every time I did something, it made news all over the world.” (06:03)
"All these people are all stuck up, you know, oh, you can't do this. …Well, I'm going to show you I can." (23:31)
“I streaked in front of the Queen three times, and the third time she went, oh, look, there’s Mark.” (06:53)
“I call it the G spot because everyone enjoys it when I get there.” (30:56)
"It’ll never be broken, it’ll never be beaten, man. Nobody will ever be able to surpass what I’ve achieved." (49:27)
“She said, when I saw you going on, I was going to shout, enough. Now, stop it. But she said, I couldn’t stop laughing.” (49:40) “…One of the last things she said, man… do you know who my son is?... so even though she kept on saying I was crazy, you know, she was proud of me in the end.” (50:13)
“I've just been diagnosed with this heart failure as well… they're giving me tablets to stop adrenaline getting to my heart… This is a conspiracy by Interpol. They're stopping me buzzing anymore… But yeah, so I've got to be careful, though.” (51:10)
"I've wrote a will... that when I die, I want to go with a Perspex coffin, clear, naked, so I can streak my own funeral... please put a Viagra down my throat so I can go out in style." (51:53)
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 02:20 | Mark joins the call; Liverpool pride and banter | | 04:32 | Why Mark streaks—more “piss-taking” than exhibition | | 05:41 | The decline of streaking as an “art form” | | 07:15 | History of streaking—Lady Godiva, Harvard, etc. | | 11:07 | The first streak: a legendary Hong Kong story | | 15:34 | Psychological breakdown: adrenaline, prep, execution | | 17:53 | Post-Hong Kong—return to UK and streaking Anfield for charity | | 21:17 | Streaking in golf’s cathedral: St. Andrews, “19th hole” | | 23:44 | Wimbledon, Anna Kournikova, “Only the balls bounce” | | 27:11 | Commonwealth Games & perfecting the Velcro strip | | 31:12 | GoldenPalace.com & plotting the Super Bowl streak | | 35:17 | Super Bowl XXXVIII, the hit from Matt Chatham | | 39:12 | Chatham responds, Mark’s unflappable bravado ("My nan hits harder...") | | 41:03 | Stadium jail, police/juror adoration, courtroom wrap-up | | 46:59 | Pablo reads WhatsApp messages from Mark—antics and attitude | | 51:10 | Health, mortality, and plans to streak his own funeral | | 52:44 | Sign-off: irreverent banter and gratitude |
Mark Roberts is painted as both a lovable rascal and a genuine artist—proud, mischievous, full of wild stories, but also articulate about the joy, rebellion, and community at the heart of his escapades. Pablo Torre brings good-natured awe and a sly wit, turning the conversation into a tribute that honors not just the laughs, but the legacy of a boundary breaker. Roberts’ legacy is left gleaming: untouchable, improbable, and, in his words, “never, never beat.”
"I'm a performance artist." — Mark Roberts (03:02)
"The adrenaline before I go on, Pablo, is nuts. ...You want to hear 70, 80,000 people roar, scream, cheer." — Mark Roberts (15:56)
"If America can't do it, who can? ...Let's do a mass streak in front of the White House." — Mark Roberts (06:53)
"I've wrote a will...so I can streak my own funeral." — Mark Roberts (51:53)
"Nobody will ever be able to surpass what I've achieved. So I'm proud." — Mark Roberts (49:27)
For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a masterclass in irreverence, rebellion, joy, and the art of making tens of thousands roar in a single, unapologetic moment.