Adam Schefter, Reporter Fights In Indy, National Sports Podcast News + Fyre Fest

Summary

Pardon My Take - Episode Summary Release Date: February 28, 2025

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Hosts:

• Dan Katz
• PFT Commenter

Guest:

• Adam Schefter, ESPN Insider

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1. Reporter Fight in Indianapolis Combine Week

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about an altercation between reporters Jordan Schultz and Ian Rapaport during the Indianapolis Combine Week. Adam Schefter provides firsthand insight into the incident.

• Background:

  • Jordan Schultz reported that Tom Brady and Matt Stafford were seen vacationing together, suggesting potential tampering.
  • Ian Rapaport refuted these claims, stating it was a mere coincidence without any discussions about future plans.

• The Confrontation:

  • The tension escalated at a Starbucks where Schultz accused Rapaport of undermining him by claiming Schultz offered Uber stock for scoops.
  • Notable Quote:
    • Adam Schefter (03:59): "What does that mean?"
    • Dan Katz (05:55): "There are places they can go to have, like, be totally private. So it's not totally crazy they would run into each other."

• Outcome:

  • Rapaport reported the confrontation to NFL Security, leading to an ongoing investigation.
  • The hosts express skepticism about Rapaport's motives and the validity of the accusations against Schultz.

2. NFL Team Report Cards

Dan Katz introduces the segment on NFL team report cards, highlighting the performance and facilities of various teams.

• Highlights:

  • Patriots: Received an "F" for their weight room and team travel accommodations. The discussion touches on outdated amenities like ashtrays.

    • Adam Schefter (17:40): "Locker rooms... A lot of negative comments about locker rooms."

  • Bills: Scored an "F-" for team travel, indicating dissatisfaction with their travel arrangements.

    • Dan Katz (18:13): "They got an F minus for travel. The players aren't happy with the travel accommodations for away games."

  • Eagles: Awarded an "A-" in food but an "F" in team travel, revealing mixed reviews.

    • Max (22:16): "The Eagles Got an A minus in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office."

  • Commanders: Previously received an "F-" for treatment of families but have since made improvements.

    • Dan Katz (19:13): "The Eagles got an A minus in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office."

• Notable Discussion:

  • The hosts debate the grading system's effectiveness and suggest incorporating fan feedback for a more holistic evaluation.
    • Dan Katz (21:30): "I needed more like, oh, yeah, the Jaguars. Like, I tried to get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and there was a cockroach on it."

3. Fyre Fest of the Week

Hank discusses the nationwide toll scam that has been plaguing listeners, sharing personal anecdotes about falling victim to the scam.

• Key Points:

  • Many listeners, including Hank and Max, received fraudulent texts from dubious sources, some even appearing to come from Hotmail accounts.
  • The scam involves urgent requests to "pay now," causing frustration and embarrassment among those targeted.
    • Hank (118:45): "It's a double fire fest."

• Advice:

  • The hosts emphasize the importance of recognizing scam tactics and advise listeners to remain vigilant.
    • Dan Katz (121:44): "They are making turning brother against brother."

4. Dwayne Wade on LeBron's Miami Departure

A segment highlights Dwayne Wade's revelation about LeBron James' decision to leave Miami, attributing it to Pat Riley confiscating his cookies.

• Story Details:

  • LeBron, known for his love of chocolate chip cookies and ice cream, had his stash taken by Pat Riley during a team flight.
  • This incident reportedly led to LeBron's frustration and eventual departure from the Heat.
    • Dwayne Wade (26:53): "LeBron stopped playing cards when he found out his cookies were taken."

• Host Reactions:

  • The hosts express empathy for LeBron and mock Pat Riley's overbearing control.
    • Dan Katz (28:44): "Pat Riley, bad guy, real bad guy."

5. NFL Overtime Rules Changes

The conversation shifts to proposed changes in the NFL's overtime rules, with the league considering implementing Hawkeye technology to assist in making first-down decisions.

• Proposed Changes:

  • Introduction of Hawkeye for determining first downs, akin to its use in tennis.
  • The chain gang would remain on the sideline as a backup system.
    • Adam Schefter (34:39): "They're going to have the chain gang on the sideline to use as a backup just in case."

• Host Opinions:

  • Dan advocates for preserving the traditional feel of the game, appreciating the human element in decision-making.
    • Dan Katz (35:13): "I like having the guys run out on the Field with a chain."

6. College Basketball Frenzy

Dan Katz transitions to college basketball, discussing the excitement as March approaches with numerous thrilling finishes and buzzer-beaters.

• Exciting Matches:

  • Michigan State, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Villanova, and Temple all delivered unforgettable endings.
    • Dan Katz (32:48): "I was watching this game because... it was crazy."

• Future Predictions:

  • Host anticipation for conference tournament week, labeling it their favorite time.
    • Adam Schefter (32:52): "I'm excited for conference tournament week. My favorite week of the year."

7. Paul George's Performance Post-Podcast

A humorous segment analyzes Paul George's basketball performance in relation to his podcasting activities.

• Performance Metrics:

  • George averaged 17.1 points per game after dropping his podcast versus 16 points without.
  • His three-point shooting improved by 11% directly after podcast drops.
    • Dan Katz (38:30): "I've still been thinking about those same. The Sam Schwartzstein's cookies that he brought in. Those were so good."

• Host Banter:

  • The hosts joke about Paul George potentially opting out of podcasts due to mixed performance results.
    • Max (39:21): "This season is over. I want to fast forward to the end."

8. Adam Schefter Interview

The episode culminates with an in-depth interview with Adam Schefter, covering various topics from trades to personal anecdotes.

• Key Discussion Points:

  • Matt Stafford Trade Rumors:

    • Potential landing spots include the Giants, Rams, and Raiders.
    • Discussion on the complexity of trading high-caliber players like Stafford.
      • PFT Commenter (85:18): "If they do trade them, what do you think the ballpark compensation is and give us the teams that are going to be hot and heavy for."

  • Franchise Tag Usage:

    • Debate on the effectiveness and future of the franchise tag in NFL contracts.
      • Adam Schefter (61:05): "They're also thinking about changing overtime again."

  • James Harden’s Hypothetical Moves:

    • Speculation on possible quarterback changes for teams like the Jets and Steelers.
      • PFT Commenter (84:57): "He was like, awesome. Yeah, you should get it."

  • Personal Anecdotes:

    • Schefter shares his obsession with a dream farm house and discusses the challenges of balancing professional responsibilities with personal desires.
      • Adam Schefter (122:16): "I started looking at the house probably two or three times a day and just think, yeah, that's where my corn would go."

• Notable Quotes:

  • Adam Schefter (88:07): "We have to explore every avenue to make us better."
  • PFT Commenter (99:55): "No, nobody should be on meth."
  • Dan Katz (119:37): "You should have just said OJ Simpson. Significantly better football player than."

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9. Fyre Fest of the Week - Personal Stories

The hosts share personal stories unrelated to sports, touching on topics like pet health and scamming incidents, adding a human element to the episode.

• Pet Health:

  • Discussion about aging dogs and the emotional toll of their health issues.
    • PFT Commenter (107:35): "We have four now. We'll always have dogs. Love dogs."

• Scamming Experiences:

  • Hank and Max recount their experiences falling victim to toll scams, emphasizing the widespread nature of these frauds.
    • Hank (118:53): "It's a double fire fest."

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10. Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, promotional segments, and a teaser for upcoming shows, maintaining the podcast's signature humor and camaraderie.

• Promotions:

  • Advertisements for brands like DraftKings, Truly Hard Seltzer, Stella Blue Coffee, and Sleep Number are seamlessly integrated within the conversation.
    • Dan Katz (117:41): "We did it. We did it."

• Upcoming Episodes:

  • Teasers for interviews with NFL figures and future content segments.
    • Dan Katz (124:13): "Like, just think of one more year at Arkansas..."

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Final Thoughts: This episode of Pardon My Take offers a blend of serious sports analysis, insider information, and the hosts' trademark humor. From dissecting reporter rivalries and NFL team performances to sharing personal tales and engaging in playful banter, the episode caters to both dedicated sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

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Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and are included to highlight notable moments and quotes within the conversation.

Transcript

[Dan Katz]

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[Dan Katz]

In Ontario, bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see DKNG co Audio. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Take it to the rack with DraftKings Sportsbook. Every point counts. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE. For new customers. Get $150 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings the crown is yours. Today is Friday, February 28th, and we have a reporter fight. Pft. You were on the scene, boots on the ground. You stayed in India an extra day.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I got bullied to stay another night because I had a poor showing night one of the combine. We all went home pretty early because we're old, we're washed. Went home at about 10pm on. On Tuesday night, so decided to stick around, and I'm very glad that I did just for this little juicy nugget. So what happened was I was having some drinks with friend of the program Mike Silver and a slew of.

[Dan Katz]

Michael.

[Adam Schefter]

Michael Silver. A slew of reporters and agents came downstairs and they were all abuzz about essentially a melee that happened in the Starbucks.

[Dan Katz]

Talking about in the Palace.

[Adam Schefter]

It was worse than malice in the Palace.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

So they came down and they were like, we just saw the craziest thing ever. And it was an extension of a Twitter fight that happened earlier in the day. So it all stems from the report that Jordan Schultz had.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

That Matt Stafford and Tom Brady went on a nice little cozy ski vacation together. Matt Stafford, it is kind of. You'll. You'll see a pattern with him. He went to Cabo with Sean McVeigh right before he became a Ram. That was also a coincidence that they happened to run into each other, happen.

[Dan Katz]

To see each other.

[Adam Schefter]

So in this case, he happened to run into Tom Brady at a ski resort. And Schultz was saying that they talked about the future, things like that. And then Ian Rapaport came over the top and said, I'm told that this was just a coincidence. They both go vacationing there sometimes. They did not talk about plans for the future.

[Dan Katz]

So Jordan Schultz was essentially reporting that Tom Brady almost like, hosted Matthew Stafford to come out.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

And. And that would be tampering at his quaint little fit.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, it was a fitness vacation.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And fitness vacation. And Ian Rapport is like. No, that was actually a coincidental. They see each other. Which, by the way, I know the Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford thing. I know it seems implausible to have these two guys just run into each other, but I do think that we don't realize what, like the insane, insane, wealthy athletes, like, they only have a couple places they can go to have, like, be totally private. So it's not totally crazy they would run into each other.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, can you imagine the coincidence level, though, if, like, you and I happen to run into each other on vacation?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm just not buying it.

[Dan Katz]

Right. I don't think that's possible, but I do think there's. I think Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford are probably vacationing in a place that we could never get to.

[Adam Schefter]

I think that's probably correct. Yes. So they, according to Rapaport, they just happened to be at the same place. Didn't talk about the future. Didn't talk about playing for the Raiders. The interesting part though, is that Jordan Schultz works for Fox. And so he was saying, like, he was telling on his co worker, Tom Brady.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

And then that. That got people all in a tizzy at the Combine too. This is the level of nerdiness that happens at the Combine.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

It's like, wow, I can't believe he's going after his own co worker like that. So that was. That was earlier in the day. Apparently Schultz ran into Ian Rappaport at the Starbucks. This would never happen. Out of Stella Blue. No violence Free.

[Dan Katz]

Also, real quick. So it was at a Starbucks. Jordan Schultz, there's no relation to.

[Adam Schefter]

That's what's interesting.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

His dad was the CEO of Starbucks.

[Dan Katz]

Of Starbucks. Maybe not founder, but he was the guy.

[Adam Schefter]

He was the Starbucks guy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

And also the Sonic Sky. His dad was the guy that took the Sonics away.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So they get into a little argument there. Jordan Schultz walks up to Ian, says, we have to talk. Ian says, I don't think we have to talk about anything. Jordan Schultz then says, like, you need to back the off because you're talking about me behind my back. Oh, throws in a couple F bombs.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Then Rapport was like, I'm not talking about you behind your back. Apparently this is what the scuttlebutt was.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Schultz was saying that Ian Rapaport is going behind his back and telling people that Jordan Schultz gives agents Uber stock in exchange for scoops.

[Dan Katz]

Uber stock.

[Adam Schefter]

Uber. I don't know how this got involved.

[Dan Katz]

Like a lot of stock or. Yeah, like Uber amount of Starbucks stock.

[Adam Schefter]

No, like Uber stock is what the car. Somehow Schultz thought that Rapaport was telling people that he was giving people Uber stock.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

I talked to Rapaport in. Rapport has never told anybody that they get Uber stock. But now it's Ian Rappaport. But per sources. Well, that also now it has me thinking like, yeah, if you. Is.

[Dan Katz]

If you're Jordan Schultz and you're accusing someone of that, it feels like it could be true.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't know. I. Huh. I don't think that Ian actually said anything like that. He's probably said some other things about Jordan Schultz behind us.

[Dan Katz]

I'M not saying it could be true that Ian Rapport's saying it. I'm saying if you're going around defending and being like, hey, I'm not giving Uber stock to people it raises. I didn't even bring, I didn't even say anything about Uber stock.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, my not involved in human trafficking T shirt.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

Is making people ask a lot of questions that are already answered by my T shirt.

[Dan Katz]

Correct. Correct.

[Adam Schefter]

So, so there was, there was a dust up, there was a fracas. He got, he got in his face, apparently. I'm going to read Mike Florio's report on New Florida.

[Dan Katz]

Was going to get involved. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So that, so this is per pro football talk. If you have anything to say to me, say it to my fucking face. Schultz said. Or specific words to that effect. If this continues, we're going to have a fucking problem.

[Dan Katz]

Oh boy.

[Adam Schefter]

If this happens again, we're going to have a problem. Schultz said. Or specific words to that effect. I love that reporting. Now I'll step back. So got in his face. There were like, I don't know, five or 10 people that just witnessed it straight up happen. And then after he walked away, Rap port notified NFL Security, called the cops or Roger Goodell on him.

[Dan Katz]

Ah.

[Adam Schefter]

And per per sources.

[Hank]

What does that mean?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, he called it, he called NFL Security. Was like, hey, there was a, a confrontation.

[Dan Katz]

There's a frus.

[Adam Schefter]

According to Rapaport. But why he called the cop. He called the NFL Security because it was witnessed by so many people. He knew that somebody would have reported it and he wanted to talk to them. Instead of them calling him in a day and him having to give his side of the story per per Rapaport. I think we just settled.

[Hank]

That's something NFL Security would be concerned about.

[Adam Schefter]

They are investigating. There's an active, ongoing investigation.

[Dan Katz]

I don't know how I feel about.

[Adam Schefter]

This, so I think I know how I feel about it. Rough and rowdy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah, that'd be good.

[Adam Schefter]

Let's settle it in the ring.

[Dan Katz]

Rapport. I did see him earlier in the day. He was wearing a pretty sick shark backpack. That's not like the one he was wearing a few years ago. It's like all blacked out. Shark.

[Adam Schefter]

New shark.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's a new shark. He looks good. Yeah, I, I, I'm on, I think I'm on Rapport side. Until the, the police get involved, NFL Security gets involved.

[Adam Schefter]

That was, that was not a good move like that.

[Dan Katz]

He should have probably just, instead of calling NFL Security, should have just blew on his Rape whistle.

[Adam Schefter]

What I Starbucks. What I would have done is I would have just simply gotten punched in the face and then made a fuckload of money.

[Dan Katz]

True. Good point.

[Adam Schefter]

This is maybe Uber stock.

[Dan Katz]

This is just such a hilarious. Like they're fight. They're having a source off. They're fighting in a Starbucks. No actual physical contact was made. Just bad words said back and forth. And I think Jordan Schultz told Florio he did not say any bad words.

[Adam Schefter]

He said he didn't recall using all that profanity. Now I do have a picture. Do you want to see the picture of the conf.

[Dan Katz]

I would love to see a picture of the confrontation. Wait, you were there.

[Adam Schefter]

I was not there.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, you got. Yeah, cuz I I want video of this.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't think that there was any video. This is the only picture that I know that exists. And it's perfect because the Starbucks sign is right above Jordan Schultz's.

[Dan Katz]

Also. They look like they're not in a fight at all.

[Adam Schefter]

Schultz is, he's smiling, his hands on his hips. He is towering over Rapaport.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

And that appears to be Jeremy Fowler next to them as well.

[Dan Katz]

I I listen. It's always good when a couple reporters getting a little fruckus over a source off. It's good.

[Adam Schefter]

This is good for the sport.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah. Now get the buzz going. If there's the the lamest fight ever. I'll say that right now.

[Adam Schefter]

If there was an NFL insider Royal rumble, I take Jake Laser.

[Dan Katz]

What about, what about our guy Prisco?

[Adam Schefter]

I I don't know that he's an insider. He's a film guy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, but he would some people if.

[Adam Schefter]

He heard that there was a journalist fight, he'd show up.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. No, Jake Glazer obviously is 11 draft pick.

[Adam Schefter]

I think he' I, I feel like I take shifter over rap sheet. Yeah, he's a sturdier boy.

[Dan Katz]

I'd agree with that.

[Adam Schefter]

Fowler is big. He's got a reach issue that's gonna be tough to deal with. Yeah, Racini got like seven red cards in college, so she's a dog. She's violent dog.

[Dan Katz]

She could, she could dog it up.

[Adam Schefter]

Rob Lowe.

[Dan Katz]

Rob Lowe's an insider. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Insider.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I, I, yeah, it's not exactly the the who's who of guys who should be fighting. I I would imagine both these guys probably haven't been in a fist fight. No. It's just so funny that he called the NFL security on someone. Another reporter. Reporter on reporter crime.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, but this is.

[Dan Katz]

What do you think the NFL Security is like. They're like, dude, are you serious?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. You know, we have.

[Dan Katz]

We have. We have, like, 150 college prospects here. We got to make sure that everything goes without incident. And you're calling about a source off at a Starbucks.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I think they have bigger fish to fry than two guys that will never fight. And if they did fight, would probably not do any damage to each other.

[Dan Katz]

No. They should have a. They should have a debate. I would like to see a debate.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Who do you guys think is right about the. The Brady Stafford interaction?

[Adam Schefter]

I find it. I find it hard to believe that they just showed up at the same vacation. We're like, oh, this is a weird coincidence.

[Dan Katz]

I don't think so, but I. See, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if it's that weird of a coincidence when it's like. I'm pretty sure they. They. What's the club called? There's the.

[Hank]

It's the Big Sky.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So there's a club where you have to buy a home to be part of the club. And the homes are like, $10 million.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

So it's like Zuckerberg and Brady. And so just to be in that room, you have to be the wealthiest of wealthy. So that's Yellowstone. Yeah, that's where I'm like, it actually could happen in my mind because it's not like they saw each other at Disney World.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

You know, I mean, they ran into each other at Times Square.

[Adam Schefter]

It's a weird coincidence that the owner of a team that is looking to get a quarterback and a quarterback who is to be traded from his team happened to be at the same place hanging out.

[Dan Katz]

It is a weird coincidence for sure, but I just think that these. These, like, the. The crazy, crazy wealthy and. And starts. What does it say? Yeah. Home purchase price of 3 million or more and a initial membership due of $400,000 plus annual costs. Not a lot of people get in that.

[Hank]

Zuckerberg, Bill Gates.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. This is who we're talking about. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So I. Yeah, I mean, I. I know this club exists. I just think that. I think the two of them were having a little rendezvous on the slope.

[Dan Katz]

But do you think. I guess really the only thing would be. Do you think they. That there was a explicit invitation? That would be where it's tampering. Where if, like, Brady was like, hey, come out here. Or was it they happened to see each other, or maybe someone tipped off one of the sides being like, hey, I think Stafford's there. Hey, I Think Brady's there?

[Adam Schefter]

I don't.

[Dan Katz]

Then they might have met up.

[Adam Schefter]

The rules don't apply to Tom Brady, though, so he'll probably get away with it or will smash his phone before it gets confiscated.

[Dan Katz]

I think if you can prove that. That. That Tom Brady was like, hey, I'm going to be at Yellowstone Club, come out for the weekend, then that's tampering. Otherwise, it's going to be hard to. To prove that. Feel fair.

[Adam Schefter]

It's going to be very hard to prove.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

For sure.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

And especially since Stafford has kind of been given permission to look for a trade.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

And feel out where his next location is going to be.

[Dan Katz]

Is that tampering?

[Adam Schefter]

Everybody's gonna be tampering with him.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Is that because he's been set. Set in the wild where he can go try to talk to people? Is that technically tampering you?

[Adam Schefter]

I think they have an open relationship right now, the Rams and Matt Stafford. So Tom Brady just cracked the garage out at the Yellowstone Club, put a.

[Dan Katz]

Pineapple on the front lawn.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Got his pineapple snow snowboard out and. Yeah. Just had a. Had a little conversation.

[Dan Katz]

It is kind of crazy, the whole Tom Brady situation. Like, they're. They. It does feel like this. This is, what, the third or fourth time something has happened? So just. Just figure it out.

[Adam Schefter]

The rules don't apply.

[Dan Katz]

Just figure it out. Like. Like figure out the rules. NFL. You. You. Goodell. Would you think he'd want to go after Brady for something like this?

[Adam Schefter]

Right. It is funny, though, that. That Schultz works for Fox, and then he was tattling on his coworker.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Although there's zero percent chance that if you ask Tom Brady, is Jordan Schultz your coworker? He. He'd say yes.

[Adam Schefter]

Correct.

[Dan Katz]

Like, there's no way. He's like, oh, yeah, that's my co worker.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Unless Tom Brady owns, like, half of Uber. Then he'd be like, yeah, we're doing a lot of business together.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I see the stock going, being traded every single day.

[Adam Schefter]

It's such a funny accusation, though, that this guy's giving out Uber stock in exchange for Scoops.

[Dan Katz]

All right, so. So there. So do we have a conclusion to it? Is there anything, any. Anything else from it?

[Adam Schefter]

My conclusion was that everybody.

[Hank]

Did you ask Rapport if he'd fight him?

[Adam Schefter]

I did not ask him if he'd fight him. I. I talked. He was the first per. He stepped, like, into this room at this party I was at after I had tweeted it out and the story had just Broken. I was the first person he saw. He's like, you. I was like, hey, I'm just doing my job.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm a journalist, just like you.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I didn't name any names. I was gonna let it come out, but, yeah, it was. It was quite a night.

[Dan Katz]

That's hilarious.

[Adam Schefter]

Also saw Big Dom. I got to be Big Dom for Big Dom. I introduced him somebody I was like, this guy's gonna take care of.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. We'd seen him earlier in the day with Nick Sirona coming Monday. Max, good job on that interview. Thanks.

[Max]

You guys. Tried to me, but thanks.

[Adam Schefter]

Nah, I don't think so. I think we just remembered facts.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Okay. So we also had the NFL report cards come out there. I feel like they used to have more anecdotes from these. Now it just feels like a straight report card. Yeah, I needed more anecdotes. I needed more like, oh, yeah, the Jaguars. Like, I tried to get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and there was a cockroach on it.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I remember those. Yeah. It was like small blurbs.

[Dan Katz]

There's a couple blurbs. One for your owner, Hank. Yep. Robert Kraft's plane is not up to snuff.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Dan Katz]

Ashtrays. I mean, if you're.

[Hank]

But like, if I personally, me. If I buy a private jet, like, I'm keeping it for probably a long time.

[Dan Katz]

But ashtrays is wild. Like seeing ashtrays anywhere? No, kind of a wild.

[Hank]

Like 1993, 1994.

[Dan Katz]

You can get new seats put in.

[Hank]

That's probably true.

[Adam Schefter]

How crazy is that? Used to just be allowed to smoke on airplanes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I can't even imagine that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Hank]

Or restaurants.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah, bars. I remember when it was. Was like 2008 maybe was banned everywhere. Yeah. I remember the last night. It was like. I think it was in Illinois. Was too. I think I remember being at a bar and everyone was just like smoking cigarettes because they're like, tomorrow, you can't do this anymore.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. In Virginia, I would go to bars sometimes. This is when I was like, under, underage. But I would go to see a band or something. And then your hair would just smell like cigarettes for three days no matter what you did after that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's wild.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they had the smoking section, which was just a table that was right next to the non smoking.

[Dan Katz]

I got it. 2008, I remember. Yeah. Just everyone was just. Everyone was like, even people who don't smoke. Like, this is our last chance. Gotta do it. Yeah. You just come home reeking of cigarettes. Wreaking.

[Adam Schefter]

So. So the Patriots got an F for team travel. The Bills got an F minus.

[Dan Katz]

Ooh.

[Adam Schefter]

For team travel. Again, that's not a real grade. An F minus doesn't exist.

[Dan Katz]

Doesn't this.

[Adam Schefter]

It's all. It's all Fs, but they got an F minus for travel. The players aren't happy with the travel accommodations for away games. I think it's just that the Bills miss being in Buffalo when they're on the road.

[Dan Katz]

Probably.

[Adam Schefter]

They're just like, there's no wing nuts here.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

F minus.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And then there was it kind of. Kind of insulting. They should have just did, like, a. What is it? N. A for. The only coaches that got a C or worse were the Bears and the Jaguars. Because obviously this poll was done. I think it was, like, August to November. This is Doug Peterson and Matt Eberfluss. That felt mean. You could just say, you know, coaching change.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Doesn't count anymore because, like, they're sitting there minding their business like, oh, fuck, my team really hated me.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

That C was the worst. C was an F. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

The. The Eagles also had an F for team travel. They don't like to travel.

[Dan Katz]

Gotta fix that. Gotta fix that. I like this poll because it's. I mean, the commanders got, like, way better at a bunch of stuff. Well, last year, they. They basically get embarrassed publicly. Yeah. And then they fix it.

[Adam Schefter]

Last year, the commanders got an F minus for treatment of families. And I would say that that's probably the category that you do not want to get an F minus in. That seems to be a pretty important one.

[Dan Katz]

That really is just breastfeeding rooms.

[Adam Schefter]

They have a daycare facility now.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Which is good. Otherwise, it was just like, if you are playing in the game, bring your kids to the stadium and it's. Just let them go.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I don't understand how anyone owns a team and gets anything worse than, like, a B on any of these things. If I had that much money and I owned a team, I'd be tricking out everything.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Like, everything. I'd have the sickest locker room possible.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Locker rooms. There were a lot of negative comments about locker rooms.

[Dan Katz]

I'd also have a locker in the locker room. Yeah. Yeah. And I would, like. I would time up my workouts so that I was. I was, like, changing when all the guys came off the field, being like, man, what a. What a great practice we had.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. So the. The last place was the Cardinals, I believe. I think they had the worst grades overall. Yeah, the Jets. Memes.

[Dan Katz]

Memes.

[Adam Schefter]

F for ownership.

[Dan Katz]

Is that Brick or Woody? I think that's Woody.

[Adam Schefter]

That's Woody. Brick is the future.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Bad. That is bad. It looks like the players turned on the owner. And in the grading, it is such a funny concept. Like where they probably. Obviously, when they see Woody Johnson in the hallway, they're nice as possible. And then they're like, yeah, he's an fan. Absolute F. And he sees. He's like, what the hell? I thought those guys liked me.

[Adam Schefter]

I thought you guys were my friends.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. We were talking game.

[Adam Schefter]

The Patriots got an F for their weight room.

[Dan Katz]

Gotta get that weight room fixed.

[Adam Schefter]

I think frame's gonna take care of that. Day one.

[Dan Katz]

I don't understand how you have a bad weight room. I don't understand how you've bet any of these things. Am I crazy for saying that?

[Hank]

Yeah. No, you're not crazy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Like, remember a couple years ago, the Bengals, it was like, they. They didn't do food on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

How is that? I know how it's possible. The owner's cheap, but I just don't understand. I can't conceptualize an owner of a football team being like, our players don't get to eat on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

[Hank]

Food and weight room and fitness.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Hank]

That's how you build the team.

[Dan Katz]

Right. Like, you can't control coach. You know, if they don't like the coach, obviously, if strength coaching, you hire the wrong guy. But yeah, like, locker room, food, weight room. That's so easy.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Has to be so easy.

[Adam Schefter]

Dan Campbell had 100% approval rating as a head coach. I believe Dan Quinn did, too.

[Dan Katz]

I think Morris also was very highly rated.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. So looking at the. The Bengals, they got the F minus for treatment of families. And then, yeah, Bears looked okay.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, there was I. The Bears, it was. The coach obviously brought their grade down, and I think they got a fix. Treatment of families as well. So it's work to be done and also win games. That's the other thing is they. They actually should do weighted a column here for fans. Fans should get a say in this.

[Adam Schefter]

I agree.

[Dan Katz]

Just overall vibes.

[Adam Schefter]

The other thing. The Baltimore Ravens, didn't they get an F a couple years ago? Maybe it was last year for their. Their medical staff, their training staff. So good news. Now the training staff is at a B minus. Oh, so they've improved. I think that was just when they were all injured. And they're like, it's the trainer's fault.

[Dan Katz]

Right, Right.

[Max]

The Eagles Got an A minus in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office. Yeah, it's just like everyone's like, yeah, the food was fine, but I can always go to big Dom's office and get a great meal.

[Dan Katz]

I can open up a cabinet and have a chicken parm ready to go. Okay, what else we got? I. Did you guys see?

[Hank]

Did you see? The Eagles said the players feel they should get first class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, that's. That's a fair point.

[Adam Schefter]

So they want the coaches to sit coach.

[Dan Katz]

Here's something I don't understand as well, and maybe someone can explain to me. When you buy a plane, why isn't every seat just first class? That's.

[Hank]

I think the Patriots complaints as well.

[Adam Schefter]

You can.

[Dan Katz]

I don't get it. You can remodel, make every seat first class. Have every seat, be a lie down, lay down bed.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I don't understand it.

[Max]

Do you think the linemen are sitting like, coach, like a guy who's like, Jordan, my lota is sitting like. Like 23B.

[Dan Katz]

I think they get full rows, but I don't know why you wouldn't remodel it and just make it so that everyone has an awesome. What's the difference?

[Max]

And if you got a full row.

[Dan Katz]

Leg room, legroom, it's probably like Southwest.

[Adam Schefter]

They. They get on and then you can pick your seat. Jordan takes the middle seat and then just defies anybody to try to sit window or aisle next to.

[Dan Katz]

We need to get one. We need to get an owner on and just talk to him. Just be like, how is this possible? I. Maybe I'm just way missing this, but this. The. The NFL makes so much money. These guys make so much money every single year. I have to. I would. I would put all the money back into it and just be like, here, guys, let's make this the best place possible. So people want to come here.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, you would think so, right?

[Dan Katz]

It. Oh, no.

[Hank]

I'm looking. The Patriots aircraft has all first class seats with five extra inches of legroom beyond a typical first class seat.

[Adam Schefter]

They call it aircraft.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

That's awesome. That's a good name.

[Dan Katz]

That is pretty funny. Well done, Max. Got it.

[Max]

Got what? I get.

[Hank]

They still got a bad travel.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Max]

Yeah, yeah. Craft.

[Adam Schefter]

I think just teams don't like. I saw a lot of teams complain that there wasn't wi fi on the.

[Dan Katz]

Planes, but that's every plane ever.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

You could. You could be the richest person in the world and you still would be trying to get WI fi on a plane. Yeah. And that's just how it works.

[Adam Schefter]

You spend the entire flight just refreshing, and you don't get anything right. You spend two hours searching for WI fi.

[Max]

I also think the Dolphins aren't filling this out. I think they. I think the team just got sent the. The thing, and they. And they just didn't read anything. Get did fives across the board.

[Dan Katz]

Well, the Dolphins get the. The. The credit of living in Miami. So everyone's like, yeah, my life's pretty good. I live in Miami. I think the.

[Max]

I think the everything is a plus or first in everything. I think that they. You. Everyone has got that survey where it's like, I don't feel like filling this out. I'm just giving five plus.

[Dan Katz]

But I think where you live matters because it's like, if you're. If you're in Buffalo, if you're in Green Bay, if you're in a cold, if you're in Cleveland, you need your facility and weight room to be good, because that's where, like, it sucks outside.

[Adam Schefter]

You have to. Yeah. Attract people. I think the. The Vikings and the Falcons also had very good grades.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, they always do.

[Adam Schefter]

Is everybody copying over Kirk Cousin shoulder?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Okay, so good job. Some of the teams, not all of them. Did you guys see one of my favorite stories I've seen in a while? Dwyane Wade did a podcast, and he revealed that he knew that LeBron's time in Miami was coming to a close because Pat riley took away LeBron's cookies.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Incredible. And also, I think I'm 100% on LeBron side. So Dwayne Wade tells a story. He's like, yeah, we get on the plane. LeBron loves cookies, loves ice cream. He's got a bag of cookies that he brings on every plane, and they were playing cards, and LeBron said to someone, hey, bring me my cookies. And the flight attendant was like, sorry, sir, there are no more cookies on this plane. Pat Riley had taken him away. I would. If someone takes another man's cookies, you have to. You have to fight them. That's fight. That's fight. Fuck. You know, whether Tom Brady invited Matthew Stafford, that's a fight.

[Adam Schefter]

The thing is, like, it. You could just not give cookies in the first place, but you can't give them and then take them away.

[Dan Katz]

But he brought the cookies.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, really?

[Dan Katz]

He brought his own cookies on the plane. Can you find the clip? Can we play the clip? He. He. He brought the cookies, and Pat Riley confiscated him. Like, it Was fat camp.

[Adam Schefter]

What kind of cookies were they?

[Dan Katz]

He said chocolate chip.

[Adam Schefter]

Which were they? Ooey.

[Dan Katz]

Listen, God forbid, if those were homemade cookies. Yeah. Then it's. Then it's actually, you have to beat the. Out of Pat Riley in front of the whole team.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm saying if they're ooey and they're gooey and you take them, yeah, I'm quitting.

[Dan Katz]

It's very funny because Dwayne Wade explains it, but, like, LeBron stopped playing cards when he found out his cookies were taken. And it's like, that's a real. So this is from the underground lounge.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This was the first moment where I had an inkling that LeBron may not be back. One thing you don't do is fuck with LeBron cookies. No, no, no, no, no. This is serious. Like, he loves chocolate chip cookies. Like, chocolate chip cookies and ice cream. He loves. Right. And so when he gets on the plane. Brian walks on the plane with a bag of food. One bag is all cookies, and other bags are what his chef has prepared for him to eat. Cause he eats a certain way. He don't eat what's on the plane. But, you know, he have his cookies. So we get on the. We get on the. We get on the plane and we play cards. At the front of the plane, we play cards. And then at some point, Bronco be like, hey, bring me those cookies. And this one day, he was like, hey, where my cookies at? And they had to come up there and whisper in his ear and tell them there weren't no more cookies on the plane. That motherfucker sat back away from the game. He pushed that table that cars back. He sat there quiet, doing his head like this. I was looking. I'm like, he play cards no more. He sat there like this.

[Dan Katz]

Expect.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You gotta know if this car gang gets shut down.

[Dan Katz]

Serious.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, it's serious.

[Dan Katz]

If this car can't get shut down, it's serious. It was.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It was too much micromanaging at that.

[Dan Katz]

That's it. Like, you're talking. I am. I wasn't familiar with LeBron's game. I didn't know he was. I didn't know he was a bring his own cookies guy. Respect.

[Adam Schefter]

I. I mean, I would quit. I would quit if I were LeBron. I. I don't blame him from walking away from the heat for this.

[Dan Katz]

That. That is. That's the most. Like, I would rather someone come and pat me on the head. Like, patronizing words to take someone to take another man's cookies. You're basically Saying they're a four year old that didn't eat their vegetables.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. You're calling them fat.

[Dan Katz]

I'm upset for LeBron. I, this, this story pissed me off. Pat Riley, bad guy, real bad guy.

[Adam Schefter]

What if, what if they just ate them all? What if they were so good the flight attendants had them. It got out of hand. No more cookies.

[Dan Katz]

Do you think they would say that, though? It sounded, I mean, it sounded like Dwayne Wade had it down path that it was Pat Riley. Because remember, this is. This also matches with what the heat culture where they weigh them every day and all that stuff. Max, you agree?

[Max]

I think they're probably shitty cookies.

[Dan Katz]

What?

[Max]

Yeah, his.

[Dan Katz]

He, you don't think that if he has a chef making his dinner. He doesn't have a chef making his.

[Max]

Cookies, but I think his chef making his dinner. That's because he, like only eats specific healthy cookies. So that he's probably getting like almond flour cookies and stuff.

[Dan Katz]

No, no.

[Adam Schefter]

I feel like that's his vice.

[Dan Katz]

No, I think that's his vice. I think the chef is probably making the best cookies possible. And I, I, I, I know that this sounds ridiculous because people are like, dude, you're really upset about this. I'm upset about this. It's the most I've ever been a LeBron fan.

[Max]

And the ice cream makes it think that it's.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah, he's got a sweet tooth.

[Max]

Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan Katz]

View. If anyone ever took my cookies, oh, my God, I would lose it. I've been eating so many Girl Scout cookies. Just. I was supposed to. I bought a bunch.

[Max]

I've still been thinking about those same. The Sam Schwartzstein's cookies that he brought in. Those were so good. Shout out his wife.

[Dan Katz]

The Girl Scout cookies. In my house, we bought a bunch because my little cousin is a girl Scout. And so she came over and gave us a bunch. And then I was like, all right, I'm gonna bring him to the office. And I just haven't been bringing him to the office. I've just been mowing them down box by box. It's crazy.

[Adam Schefter]

I discovered some Thin Mints in my freezer from last year. You think those are still good?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, good.

[Dan Katz]

I actually think there was, there was a clip going viral that was like, thin Mints are essentially not food.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't care.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I love whenever they do that. Whenever, whenever you see the video and they have the blowtorch. Like, watch this Oreo. Doesn't get go on fire. You know what don't care. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

We left this Big Mac on the counter for three months, and it still looks exactly the same. All right.

[Dan Katz]

There's some shit that I think they should probably fix, but in terms of cookies, I don't care. I know when you're eating a cookie, you're not eating a cookie being like, this is good for me. You're opting into bad stuff, so it could be as bad as possible. I don't give a fuck. Do I want the bread to be better?

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Dan Katz]

Cookies. I'm fine.

[Adam Schefter]

So the big question I have, though. LeBron has been so good at curating and managing his public image throughout the years, how come he didn't talk about this? Everyone would have been on his side.

[Dan Katz]

If he had just said, hey, Miami, great. You know, five years or whatever it was. Four years, one. Two titles. Pat Riley took my cookies. I gotta go. Yeah, that's it. Everyone would be like, yeah, you know what? He actually should go revisionist history and be like, dan Gilbert took my cookies. And that's why I made the initial move tonight.

[Adam Schefter]

And then he promised me that he would. He would let me have my cookies again. So I came back.

[Dan Katz]

All right. The other thing I had was Jordan.

[Adam Schefter]

Would never allow his cookies to be taken. No, that's nothing. That's the difference.

[Dan Katz]

No, he'd fight.

[Adam Schefter]

He would keep that on his person.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Schefter]

Bad opsec by LeBron letting another man touch your cookies to begin with.

[Dan Katz]

You can't let him out of your sight.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. The other thing I had was a little. Little national sports podcast. Talk college basketball. Incredible night of college basketball. I was talking with Titus because I went on his show. It does feel like the sport in general knows that March is coming because we had, like, an insane buzzer beater in the Michigan State game. We had great finishes in. In Kentucky and Oklahoma and Texas and Arkansas, Villanova, Temple. Temple.

[Max]

That was a great finish.

[Dan Katz]

Pfd. I was. I was watching this game because. Crazy. I bet on it, but I was. I. The Temple game, the guy goes to take a. On the baseline, a buzzer beater, like, maybe like 2 seconds left. He gets blocked by all three U. USF guys, and their momentum carries him. He just grabs the block and then. And then hits the shot.

[Adam Schefter]

Let me see here.

[Dan Katz]

It was crazy. Or two. Boom.

[Adam Schefter]

That's pretty incredible.

[Dan Katz]

Needed overtime bad. There. That was. That was heartbreaking.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm excited for conference tournament week. My favorite week of the year. It's going to be great.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So. So the stories I had. One was, I Don't know if you saw, but Danny Hurley had a very funny moment where the media asked him about the press, and he said, the press has been an asshole to me all year. And then the guy was like, I'm talking about the press on the court when they. A team presses you.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Which has also been an.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Which also been an asshole. I also have a new. A new thing because we. We. We at this podcast, we talked about Coach Cal being on the hot seat a lot. Probably can't do that right now because he's, you know, first year at Arkansas got paid a lot of money. They actually got a big win. They should be. They should potentially be in the tournament. But I'm addicted to anytime Kentucky wins a game. Just saying that's a game Cal would have lost.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

And last night I got in a real tricky spot because Kentucky won, and I said, that's a game Cal would have lost. And then five minutes later, Cal beat Texas in overtime. And I was like, great job by Cal. That's a game Cal usually loses. So. But I think that's what we have to say for. It doesn't have to make sense. Cal won a lot of games, but every game that Kentucky wins, we just got to be like, that's a game Cal would have lost.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I mean, if they score, if they, like, really fill it up and they win by 20, that's a game Cal would have won. But if it comes down to X's.

[Dan Katz]

Nose, Cal would have lost it.

[Adam Schefter]

Cow would have lost it.

[Dan Katz]

And it is very funny because it pisses people off because they're like, you know, Cal won an insane amount of games. Like. Yeah, I'm aware. But the ones he lost, that was. That was one of the ones he would have lost.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I like that. I like that take.

[Dan Katz]

Let's.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's.

[Adam Schefter]

Let's just run with it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. It's just anytime Kentucky's in a close game, you just say, that's a game Cal would have lost.

[Adam Schefter]

I like it. There's another piece of news from the NFL.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

They're going to start using Hawkeye technology.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

[Adam Schefter]

So for first downs next year, they're going to have the chain gang on the sideline to use as a backup just in case. But they're going to do like tennis does, and they're going to say, first down. No, first down based on technology.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Which I. I like the chain gang. I don't want to turn NFL into a computer simulation. I like having the guys run out on the Field with a chain. There's something nice about seeing a 70 year old man trot out there very slowly and then they measure it. Then the official gets real close, holds up his hands. I like that part of the game.

[Dan Katz]

I have a question, and this comes from a place of love because I do love Bill's Mafia. I love Josh Allen. Everyone knows that. What happens if the Bills actually win a Super Bowl? Will we just get no new rules? Because all our new rules are just whenever the Bills lose to the Chiefs, we make a new rule.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty much how it's done. They're also thinking about changing overtime again. Again. Troy Vincent said it's time to re examine the overtime rules, which sucks because we, it takes us two years to really learn overtime and be able to spot it like off the top of our head. If you were to ask me like on a Wednesday during NFL season, What is the NFL's overtime policy? It takes me like a year to get confident.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

To just have that information and then they change it and then they're going to have to put that big graphic up before overtime. It's not going to make any sense to me.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah. Hear the overtime rules. All right, what else? Oh, I also, for college basketball, I, I think they should change the rules. We're talking about changing rules. I think we should ban following up three. I don't know how they could do it. I like the idea of maybe if you follow up three, they get three shots. So just like really high pressure. Three. Three free throws. But there's, there's nothing worse than in a game where a team is up three and it just becomes a foul fest and you lose out on like awesome moments.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. It's intentionally breaking a rule while you're leading that game.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

Doesn't sit right with me.

[Dan Katz]

Right. So I don't know. And also people don't understand. Follow up 3 is like a concept. There's a lot of people who are like, that's why you got to follow up three when, when a team will hit a shot with like 10 seconds left. Like, no, you don't follow up three with 10 seconds left.

[Adam Schefter]

What's the time zone that you hit it in?

[Dan Katz]

I think it's like, got to be.

[Adam Schefter]

It's.

[Dan Katz]

It's usually like five. It's like five to like two seconds kind of. I think Oregon hit a three against Wisconsin on Saturday to tie the game. There was eight seconds left. Yeah. And Rothstein was like, that's why you got to follow up Three. It's like. No, that's not why you follow.

[Adam Schefter]

My favorite thing to do at the end of a game is no matter how much time's left, no matter what the lead is, I just like to say you don't need a two or you don't need a three here. Yeah, you can get a two here.

[Dan Katz]

You usually can. You usually get an easy two because they. They're playing three point defense. You just run to the. To the. When would you follow up? Three max. It's like five seconds, maybe less.

[Max]

Nah, I think. I don't hate falling up, especially Wisconsin. Wisconsin should be falling up three early because they're the best free throw shooting team of all time.

[Dan Katz]

I don't know. But if you follow through with 10 seconds left, there's so many possessions.

[Max]

But you just got to trust your.

[Dan Katz]

Your.

[Max]

If you're that good of a free throw shooting team, you got to trust your free throws. That's all you got to do.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I just like seeing games have thrilling endings instead of.

[Max]

I think it depends on the. It depends on the team. If you're a shitty free throw shooting team, you probably never foul up. 3.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah. True, true. But I'm ready for madness at Michigan State. I felt bad for our friend Scott Van Pelti. I think that was right in his eye. Yeah, he was on. He was courtside.

[Adam Schefter]

I think it might be Izzo season.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah, he's. He said, these guys are playing for Michigan State. That's all they care about.

[Adam Schefter]

Love it.

[Dan Katz]

No, he's feeling it.

[Adam Schefter]

Love it. There's another little tidbit here, Max, I'd like to get your take on from Steph. No. Steph. No. Did some research, and he came to the conclusion that Paul George played better this season right after he dropped podcasts, and now he's not podcasting anymore. So games directly following a podcast, he averaged 17.1 points per game with no podcast down to 16 points per game.

[Hank]

It also sounds like he just never wants to podcast again.

[Dan Katz]

So what happened? Paul George just quit his podcast because the Sixers suck.

[Hank]

He said, until they are, like, contending for a championship.

[Adam Schefter]

So zero dark 30.

[Hank]

That was just a way of him being like, I don't want a podcast anymore.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, it's not for everybody. Now, the. The craziest 1 is his 3 point percentage in a game where there's no podcast before, he shoots 31.9% in a game. After a podcast drops, he shoots 42%. 42.9.

[Dan Katz]

You got to get him podcast.

[Adam Schefter]

So he shoots 11% better from three directly after dropping a podcast.

[Max]

I. I don't. I. I'm done with Paul George.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, that's.

[Max]

That's my take.

[Dan Katz]

Wait, even next year?

[Max]

Maybe. We'll see this year.

[Dan Katz]

Season's over.

[Max]

I. That's what I'm saying. I don't care. I don't. I'm opting out of all Sixers news.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, all of it.

[Adam Schefter]

I refuse to let you opt out.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, we don't.

[Max]

This season is over. I want this. I just want to fast forward to the end.

[Adam Schefter]

Do you think when somebody does a deep dive into the analytics of Podcast P and his game, you think we're not going to bring that up to you?

[Dan Katz]

No.

[Max]

Yeah, I understand. You have. We have to talk about it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. You want.

[Adam Schefter]

You are trying to be. You're trying to be Paul George. You're trying to not do a podcast.

[Max]

Yeah, you could say that.

[Hank]

What could make you guys take a break from podcasting? Is there anything.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, Hank, that's weird. Why would you ask that right before golf season starts?

[Adam Schefter]

I think if I played for the.

[Dan Katz]

Six, that was such a loaded, like. No, it's weather. 50 degrees.

[Hank]

It's topical.

[Dan Katz]

Topical to your life. Yeah. No.

[Hank]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Schefter]

All right, so we were driving to Indy on Tuesday, and after about 10 minutes on the road, Hank just looks to the side of the road and looks at me and smiles. I'm like, you motherfucker. He was just looking at the road that he takes to go to his golf club, and he was just thinking about getting out there with his sticks.

[Dan Katz]

So we asked the question again. What would. What would take us to stop podcasting, Paul George.

[Hank]

Stop podcasting to focus on a championship?

[Dan Katz]

Nothing.

[Hank]

Is there anything that you guys would stop podcasting to folks on? Sorry, that's apparently about me, and I want you guys to stop podcasting.

[Adam Schefter]

Never. I would never stop.

[Dan Katz]

No.

[Adam Schefter]

I would only stop podcasting to focus on the podcast.

[Dan Katz]

I would only stop podcasting. Focus on Hank's golf game.

[Max]

I had a bunch of people coming up to me last week saying that I was the new Hank.

[Dan Katz]

What.

[Adam Schefter]

What does that mean?

[Max]

I was on vacation.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh. And you win now.

[Dan Katz]

You're.

[Adam Schefter]

And you're a winner now, and you're a winner.

[Max]

I didn't think about it like that.

[Dan Katz]

Wow. That. It could have been that.

[Max]

Yeah. I am planning my next vacation just for.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Hank has low key, kind of become the new Max.

[Dan Katz]

How so?

[Adam Schefter]

He hasn't worn anything in a while.

[Max]

He won.

[Adam Schefter]

He won in a while. Almost a full year.

[Max]

Literally the second Closest. Wait, no, the third closest.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah. What would take you to stop podcasting, Hank?

[Hank]

Nothing. I'd never stop.

[Dan Katz]

I love that about you guys Stopping.

[Hank]

Though, would make me stop. I could never podcast without you guys.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, I love.

[Adam Schefter]

Appreciate that.

[Dan Katz]

I love that. But yeah, also, on the drive up or down to Indy, Max just treated us like we were five years old.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, that's not true.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it is.

[Adam Schefter]

You called, you said, hey, do you guys think that you'll be on time?

[Dan Katz]

You. You call.

[Hank]

You left yet?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you called and asked if I had left yet. Because you're like, it might. You might miss the first interview.

[Hank]

You guys leave yet?

[Dan Katz]

That's a fact. We probably have the footage.

[Max]

You. The last I had spoken to you, you told me that you were leaving at a different time.

[Dan Katz]

I said, as I was going through.

[Max]

The drive, I was like. As I was going through the drive, I was like, if he left, left. At the time he told me he was going to leave, he may not be there on time.

[Hank]

What time did you call, though?

[Max]

I don't know. I can check my.

[Dan Katz]

But you. You know me pretty well, Max. I, I, Someone who's late to things or who, like, fucks up time things.

[Max]

I understand that. I was just. I was getting anxious in my own brain about what I would do if you guys weren't, like, Liam Cohn showed up, and it was just me. I was getting anxious about what I was. What I was going to do in that moment.

[Adam Schefter]

Hang out with the pot on your own?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, just do it yourself. It was. You were. You were little bro.

[Max]

And then. No, that. Not little broing. That was my own anxiety taking over. What day this was? Tuesday. All right.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Max]

It was exactly 20 minutes after he told me. But that wasn't a, like, have you left yet? That was more, have you left yet? I know, but. But that, that was poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. I just wanted to know what the status was.

[Adam Schefter]

The status was. We were going to be on time.

[Max]

Correct. But I wanted to make sure I was, you know.

[Dan Katz]

Have you guys been duped by any fake? Epstein logs? All notes in the. I shout out the Bro. Hyan, I think is his Twitter name. Yeah, no, Rudy. Rudy.

[Adam Schefter]

That one was real. Rudy was on the, on the plane.

[Dan Katz]

He just, he said, wow, here's the Epstein log. This is crazy. It was just the packers depth chart, and I got, like, four names down. I was like, oh, wow, this is. This is fucked for them. Them. Like, wait a second.

[Adam Schefter]

I like that.

[Dan Katz]

All Right. We have anything else? Anything before we get to Shefty. Great interview with Shefty. Any other national sports podcast news? It's going to be March soon. It's going to be March on Saturday.

[Hank]

NBA sent.

[Dan Katz]

Oh yeah. Free NBA Sentinel.

[Adam Schefter]

So they got suspended?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Dan Katz]

They.

[Hank]

I, I don't think it's free them.

[Dan Katz]

Why?

[Hank]

Because they had two months to declare themselves a parody account. They just didn't.

[Dan Katz]

They're not a parody.

[Adam Schefter]

They're. They're Sentel.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you gotta kind of just do that, right?

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean, it's a parody count. So it's like all you have to do is declare yourself a parody account.

[Adam Schefter]

I thought humor was legal now. What about free speech?

[Dan Katz]

We're legalizing comedy. Okay, so don't free him. I mean, I would like him back. No, I say he would get me all the time. I would get got all the time. Was the one that I said on the podcast is like the, the, the big nuts. The testicle jewelry one. Yeah. He was like crazy. Draymond Green buys like four hundred thousand dollar gold testicles. I was like, damn, that's crazy.

[Adam Schefter]

I can't believe Hank's taking the side of, of big tech. You're. You're blaming central is a vital part of the sports ecosystem.

[Hank]

No, I mean, I think it's like if, if you're a parody account and they say if you want to, you know, you can be a parody account. You just have to declare yourself as a parody account. If you don't, we're going to take your account down.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, hold on. Like, you take this call. Hey, we're, it's Jerry. O.C.

[Adam Schefter]

Hey, Jerry.

[Dan Katz]

We're about to.

[Hank]

Hey Jerry, it's Hag from, from pmt.

[Dan Katz]

We're recording right now. We're about to get to the Schefter interview. I gotta ask you where. You were joking.

[Adam Schefter]

You were.

[Dan Katz]

That was for the show, right? What do you mean? No, listen to the Schefter interview.

[Adam Schefter]

Jerry, why are you getting upset? You don't even know what Chef said.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, the people listening right now don't even know what Schefter said. Guys, don't do it to me. Just don't do it to me. Let me cook. Let me cook on my own. Please let me cook on my own. I, I just, I don't want. If, if you're gonna have Chef D and Chef these kids chiming in. Honestly, get, get Hank to manage it. Like he'll get it. He's done a great job with the Block list. I mean, I'm not even kidding. You know, have, you know, oldie do it. He can use some of his CFL duty and all that stuff. He could maybe, you know, you know, whip his out. Listen, just listen to our. What we talked about with Schefter and then we'll. We'll talk after. Don't do it to me, guys. Just do it to me. Just be open minded. What did Shefty say about. About the Giants? Because I gotta tell you, I saw a post that Aaron Rodgers might go there and I'm not mad at that. Oh, yeah, no, listen. No one's listened to the Shefty interview yet because this is. We're taping right now. And this is right before we get to Shefty.

[Adam Schefter]

That's a good tease for the Giants.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, but guys, honestly, like, I. I know that was like a bit earlier. No, it wasn't. You can't do it. Don't. Don't do it to me.

[Adam Schefter]

Jerry, I need you to not flip out until you actually hear.

[Dan Katz]

You got to hear it, and then we'll talk. I can't hear. Pft. Tell him to say it with his chest. I can't hear him.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm saying it with my chest. Jerry, I'm telling you to just keep. Contain yourself until you listen to the interview. You might have be whistling a different tune.

[Dan Katz]

Guys, please. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna beg for my job. I'm not gonna beg. You are begging right now.

[Adam Schefter]

I think we gotta take his cookies away.

[Dan Katz]

I have a question about the Jaguar gm. Was that AI that child who did the press card? It might be. It might be. Listen. Just listen to Chef the Interview. This great promo for the Chef the Interview. And we'll discuss afterwards. Okay? Do it. I'll only work with Max. That's the only one. Why don't you get Steve. Steve Che out to do it? You'll have all books next year. Good luck with that, fellas. Okay. All right. We've heard your demands. Just listen to it with an open mind. Okay? I'll only work with Max. Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Or memes.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Nobody outside of the building, Max or Memes, and not Hank, okay?

[PFT Commenter]

They'll be like you.

[Dan Katz]

You just take care of it on the golf course. All right, Jerry, we'll talk to you later. Oh, man, he's mad.

[Hank]

Don't forget, we did it closest to the pin with Jerry, and he stayed on the simulator for six hours.

[Adam Schefter]

It's true.

[Dan Katz]

Like Skull.

[Adam Schefter]

Also, it just dawned on me. You know who won her Fantasy league last year.

[Dan Katz]

Who?

[Adam Schefter]

Jordan Schultz.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, there it is.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

So maybe team them up.

[Adam Schefter]

That was a tough Venmo to send.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, team that. Team them up. Okay, let's get to our interview with Shefty, where we do discuss maybe shuffle in the organization that we have going on with our fantasy football operation.

[Adam Schefter]

We're examining everything to. To deliver a winner.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, there's no. There's no. There's been no decisions made. Jerry needs to understand that. He's probably listening to this right now, Jerry. That we have not made any decisions. We're exploring all options. It would be wrong of us as owners of the team to not explore every avenue to make us better.

[Adam Schefter]

We're custodians of a very important franchise.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

And we take that very serious. And frankly, Jerry's reaction to not having any news at all about this is concerning to me.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. That was the third phone call we've had with him in the last 25 minutes. He hung up on us twice.

[Adam Schefter]

He seems a bit unstable.

[Dan Katz]

He seems a bit unstable. Okay. Before we get to our interview with Shefty, we are brought to you by our friends at Truly. Truly Unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. Drinks light. Party's hard with 8% ABV. It hits hard, but still tastes amazing. Comes in four fresh flavors. Tropical Twist, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, Strawberry Smash. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Find Truly Unruly at a store near you or visit www.trulyhardseltzer.com trulyhardceltzer.com it is about to get to. We're about to get to summer golf season. It's going to be an unruly summer with Truly. So Strawberry Smash, my personal favorite. Go get unruly with truly.8% ABV. Tastes delicious. Find Truly Unruly at a store near you or Visit truly hard seltzer.com we're also brought to you by Stella Blue, introducing Cell Blue's Coffee Mug Mania contest. So here's the deal. We're gonna do a mug submission on Stella BlueCoffee.com. submit your original mug design by March 9th for a chance to walk away with a grand prize of $2,500. That's $2,500. And to have your mug featured on sellbluecoffee.com it's super easy to do it. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to buy anything, you just go in. You should buy something. But you go in, you follow directions, design your mug, and then the best Mug will win $2,500 and be featured on Stella Blue Coffee.com trying to make the best mug possible. So visit CellBlueCoffee.com today to learn more. StellBlueCoffee.com to learn more. Okay, Here he is, Adam Schefter. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend. It is Adam Schefter, ESPN Insider. This is maybe six straight year we've.

[PFT Commenter]

I was, I was going to ask you how many straight years we've now done this, because it's been a lot.

[Dan Katz]

It's a combined tradition of having Chef.

[PFT Commenter]

Dion and I didn't hear from you until Monday. I didn't even reach out.

[Dan Katz]

I knew you were good. Iv our ducks in a row. You up. And I was like, hey, can you do this time? You're like, yeah, I'll do whatever. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What? What took you so long?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's become such a tradition. I said this before, and I really mean this. There's not a week that goes by where somebody doesn't stop me and say, I don't love the Adam Schefter podcast. I never hear that, but I love listening to you on pmt.

[Dan Katz]

I love that. That's the best comment we can get.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, nobody stopped me yet to say I love you on the Adam Schefter po from Adam.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. You changed the name. You changed the audience when they, they tuned in for the name Adam Sheer.

[PFT Commenter]

Podcast but stopped on a regular basis.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you on pmt. So hopefully I love that we're going to make the people happy today and give them what they want.

[Dan Katz]

All right, so I have a very, very important question to ask you first. It's, it's, it's a multi layered question. Let's start with this. You have two phones.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

How new are they? When did you get them?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's funny you asked that because literally this is my primary phone right here in my lap, and this is my secondary phone, which is the two phones I carry. And one of them is. There are two different carriers, providers. I have been ordering a new phone and it showed up from ESPN yesterday.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And my son is like, why do they keep sending you old phones? And I called up to speak to somebody. I'm like, what's the deal? Like, it's always two models behind.

[Dan Katz]

Right? Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And so they said, that's just how we do it.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. So how long? So you got a new phone. How long have you had the phone that you're switching out?

[PFT Commenter]

Too long.

[Dan Katz]

How long?

[PFT Commenter]

Three, four years.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, so I asked that question because I'm sure you saw our mutual friend Woj selling some of his old phones. I am willing to offer, I think, unlimited amount of money to buy the Miles Garrett assault phone from you. I don't know which. I don't know if you can pinpoint exactly which phone that is, but I want that.

[Adam Schefter]

I need it. Let's see.

[Dan Katz]

I want to put it. I want to frame it. I want to put it in our studio.

[PFT Commenter]

This would be.

[Dan Katz]

That would be the phone.

[PFT Commenter]

This would be the phone.

[Dan Katz]

So name your price. Name your price.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, do we get to donate it to a charity?

[Adam Schefter]

I don't know about that.

[Dan Katz]

I just want this phone.

[PFT Commenter]

Does it get a prominent spot?

[Dan Katz]

We. We can. We can donate to a charity. Yes, we'll put it. I want it. I want it framed, and I want to be like, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from.

[Adam Schefter]

So 11, 15, 20, 19.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, so that might not be the phone.

[Adam Schefter]

So five. Yeah, about five years ago.

[Dan Katz]

I'm not. But listen, we. We know that we have to get this right, because if we buy the wrong phone and everyone's gonna be like, are you sure that's the phone?

[PFT Commenter]

It would have to be authenticated.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So do you think there's a phone that you have maybe in your office? That's. The other was the assault phone.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I, I really believe that this is the assault phone.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, well, we'll have to authenticate it, but we will. We will donate to charity to get this in our studio. And then also framed. Yeah, framed everything. And then you can also throw in maybe the phone that has the DEZ Bryant tape on it. So we'll do that. We'll do a two for one. That one. You got to keep the tape on it, though. We'll have it just playing on loop in our. In our studio.

[Adam Schefter]

We do need to for do some forensic analysis of the phone to make sure that that's the one.

[Dan Katz]

But you're willing to negotiate for charity?

[PFT Commenter]

100.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Whatever you see, you get to wipe the phone.

[Dan Katz]

We'll put it up. And it just says, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from when Miles Garrett committed assault.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It would be my honor to give you this phone.

[Dan Katz]

This is huge.

[PFT Commenter]

There should be. There should be, like, a hall of fame section.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the bar stool office that he.

[Adam Schefter]

Tweeted that thing out. That would be nice.

[Dan Katz]

Yes. We have the Will Compton Museum in one of the bathrooms, so. And listen, I'll also extend this courtesy to you. Whenever you want to come visit your phone, you have free right to come and visit yourself. That's huge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, charge admission for people to touch it.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't put a price on that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, People taking pictures next to the phone.

[Adam Schefter]

So wait, you have two different carriers? Do. Do you do that just in case, like, AT T blows up for a day?

[PFT Commenter]

No, just in case, like, it's amazing how often I'm in one spot and I don't have reception on one phone, but I do on another. There's a road near my house that this phone loses reception every time, but this one keeps it.

[Adam Schefter]

So you're always on the grid.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's. It's weird. But this one, the primary one, it's really acting up. And we got free agency in a couple of weeks here, and I do not trust this phone. This phone is literally on its last legs. It's a time bomb. And I'm working with Disney, and they sent me a 15. Model 15. And my son's like, you need a 16. I'm like, why? I don't understand any of this. Yeah, I'm not smart enough tech wise. He's like, more processors, better chips. Okay. So I think I'm going to Apple this weekend to buy the 16. And if and when I do that and transfer over everything, you'll give me the address?

[Dan Katz]

Yep. That's ours.

[PFT Commenter]

You give us a charity, I'll ship you this phone.

[Dan Katz]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

And you can hang it on the wall.

[Dan Katz]

Yes, I love it.

[Adam Schefter]

Speaking of Miles Garrett. Let's talk about Miles Garrett.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So is he going to be traded?

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the. There are so many complicating factors with that. Right. If you trade them. First of all, they've been very steadfast in saying we're not trading him. That's number one. Number two, if they do trade him, there's like, a $36 million cap charge that gets accelerated. So it's hard to trade them. It's hard to do it from a financial standpoint. You don't know if there's a team out there that's even willing to give up what it would take. So there are a whole slew of factors now we've seen in recent years any number of players want to go from wanting to be traded to signing extensions. I know this is not money Based. But Lamar Jackson wanted to be traded, dropped that right before John Harbour was having breakfast. The reporters at the owner's meetings a couple of years ago. And he wound up signing a month or so later. Debo Samuel, Brandon Iuk. We can go on and on again. I. I would think eventually maybe he'll soften up because the Browns feel like they're unwilling to move him. It would take a change. Now, the Bears or the Raiders at one point in time were like, we're not trading Khalil Mack. We're not trading clear Mac. We're not trading clear Mac. September 1st of that year, after weeks and months had passed, they traded Khalil Mack.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To the Bears.

[Dan Katz]

Yes. So if they do trade them, what do you think the ballpark compensation is and give us the teams that are going to be hot and heavy for.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if you go back and look at what the Bears gave up for Khalil Mack, it's two firsts. It was a third, a fifth. It was a bunch of. To me, that's the most fair comp there is out there right now. You could look across the league and I could tell you that there are 31 teams aside from Cleveland that could use Miles Garrett. Realistically, I think you're looking at a contender that needs a pass rusher, that it can make a huge difference. Buffalo would be unbelievable. Washington would be unbelievable.

[Dan Katz]

Your contender.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Contender, right? Like, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How does it feel? Did you feel?

[Adam Schefter]

We say Washington makes me feel tingly.

[Dan Katz]

Contender.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't see. The thing about Washington is they were a great team. They were fun to watch last year. I love the direction the team's going and Dan Quinn did a great job. Adam Peters seems to know what he's doing, but the roster needs a lot of upgrades. I don't know that you can say that. It's. We're one piece away just because we got to the NFC Championship game. The roster across the board, they have to go out and find all these replacements. So while, yes, I would love Miles Garrett, I feel like the compensation is going to be very, very rich.

[PFT Commenter]

It is. Absolutely. And that's. Even if they do trade them, which right now they say they not going to, but Jaden Daniels, like you, are set up for the next 12 to 15 years to be.

[Adam Schefter]

Don't say that. That's a long time, but that's what it should be. I hope, I hope, I hope that you're right because we're in these chairs. Not. But four years ago, when you did the meanest thing you've ever done to me. And you put Carson Wentz inside my brain and you knew what you were doing. Is there anything, Anything that you've heard this week?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe.

[Adam Schefter]

If you want to say Debo repeatedly to me to make me feel good about the chances of getting Debo Samuel.

[PFT Commenter]

I could see them being interested in Debo Samuel. And I think that there is a market for Deebo Samuel that's probably a little bit stronger than people thought it would be. And I think the 49ers are going to be able to trade him.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. What else are the 49ers going to do? Because it feels like they're a team in, like, heavy transition. They have to probably shed a couple other players. Who else is someone that you might. I mean, is Brock Purdy going to get signed? Are they going to let him play out the rest of this contract?

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the issue there. They are in such a difficult cap situation that it's going to impact all sorts of things. So I think with Brock Purdy, here's the thing that people have to remember. He's got a year left on his deal.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And so the Niners can offer him a package and say, here's what we're willing to do, whatever that is. And then is it going to be the Dak Prescott contract? It's not. I don't expect it to be.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it going to be a fair contract? I would think it would be. They have to pay him. He's worthy and deserving of a big contract. But what is that right? Deal. And that's going to be one of the questions. They've got so many financial issues and so many things they have to do and need to do that you're not going to be able to pay Brock Purdy. Dak Prescott, you can find a deal for Brock Purdy, but. And I'm sure his agent wouldn't like this, but if Brock Purdy doesn't like that deal, like, I don't know how far the Niners can go. And then the Niners can just say, okay, guess what? We have your rights this year for 5 million. We could franchise tag you next year for 40 million. That's 45 million over the next two years that they have as contractual rights for. Is that fair? No.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's the way it is right now.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so it's a tough spot. So there's a deal to be had for both sides. That's fair. But how do you work through that.

[Dan Katz]

And figure it out, dudes in general? I feel like teams don't use the franchise tag as often as you.

[PFT Commenter]

Some teams view it as a weapon and some teams would rather not do it. And this year I don't know what the record is for fewest number of players who are tagged, but this year we're looking at T. Higgins, maybe that. That might be the only one that we get.

[Dan Katz]

No, Trey Murphy was thrown around, but that would be, I think the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Trey Smith.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On, on Kansas City. Byron Murphy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Minnesota can't be tagged. Trey Smith, maybe a transition tag. I don't think that happens. But you're not going to get more than at most two tags this year.

[Dan Katz]

So do you think that because like the franchise tag, it does feel like teams, they, they use it as kind of a, hey, we could do this. But they don't use it very often. Do you think there's any way that when they get to the negotiating table, they get rid of the franchise tag or adjust it and change it?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, here's the thing. In the next couple of years, at some point in time, the NFL PA is going to have a chance to go to the bargaining table and the NFL is going to very badly want that 18th regular season game.

[Dan Katz]

It's already worked into the 2027 Super Bowl.

[Adam Schefter]

2027 is played on presence.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Because it's already there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because you know what's going to happen here? What's going to happen is they're going to eventually, I believe, no matter how much the NFLPA is objected, I think that they're wise to say what they've done. They get to an 18 game schedule and then the league can take a 12, 14, 16 game international package and sell that.

[Dan Katz]

This, I hate this idea.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just telling you.

[Dan Katz]

Can you tell the league not to do this? So the idea would be that there would be. Every single week there would be a standalone like 8:30, 9:30 in the morning game.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe not every week, but plenty of weeks.

[Dan Katz]

Can you tell them alternatively what they should do is they should do a hybrid of the college football model and have east coast games start at noon local time and then there's another four games to kick off at 3:15 and then there's another two or three games that kickoff at 6:00 and then Sunday Night Football at 8:30. That's what we want. We want there to be. There's no break in the football. You just have overlapping windows. You have four windows and you don't have the 9:30 because that game, it's just.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you thought about throwing your name into the ring to succeed Roger Goodell when he decides to step down commission.

[Adam Schefter]

It's a real issue because on Sunday you wake up. We as football fans have about like a three or four hour time span there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Where we can act like normal functioning.

[Dan Katz]

Get all your pets in, you can.

[Adam Schefter]

Do some sort of chore. You can spend time with the family or with a dog. Act like you are a, a real human being. And then you sit down on the couch for, you know, nine hours non stop. And when you, when you take away that Sunday morning.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Then it's just like, oh, I just, I don't have Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, by the way, like from my standpoint, we have the pregame show.

[Dan Katz]

They don't, they're not thinking about us. They're not thinking about nothing but you. Here's the thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing about like Roger Goodell's got to.

[Dan Katz]

Understand, he doesn't, he doesn't understand gamblers. And if you, the reason why college football, like a college football Saturday is more fun to bet on is because you have multiple time slots.

[PFT Commenter]

Staggered.

[Dan Katz]

Staggered because a lot of people, not naming names myself will, will load up on the first time slot and we'll be like, all right, if we can, if we can get some wins then we're going to go to the next one. So you have people betting throughout the day with, with only the two time slots. You know, listen, he, if he wants to bring me on as a special advisor.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think that's good.

[Dan Katz]

Gamblers, I'm more than welcome.

[PFT Commenter]

He should. Yeah, clearly. Because there is the potential for that whole new window of international games, another broadcast package to sell. I, I think that's where it's going to go.

[Dan Katz]

He's not thinking about, he's not thinking about, you know what he's not thinking about? He's not thinking about marriages and relationships in America. Because listen, a couple, a couple of the 9:30 games you can get away with being like, oh yeah, they're playing in Germany. They've never done this before. Every fucking Sunday. If I have to be at 8:30 in the morning in central time being like, oh yeah, there's another game push us to the brink.

[PFT Commenter]

Like they added the Thursday night. There's Monday night now like Friday night last year. So I can't tell how many times I've said to my way, there's a game tonight.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, which I love.

[Dan Katz]

I'm just saying the not like PFT is right. You, we, we all have like two or three hours on Sunday to Get our brains, you know, ready to go, fired up, look at the board. You start a game early.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, it's just so we can pretend to have a real life on Sunday. We don't. We don't have real life.

[Dan Katz]

Walk.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, you get up. How many dogs, how many pets are going to die because Roger Goodell is going to insist on taking away all of her Sundays.

[Dan Katz]

I mean, I. I say to my wife every Sunday morning, it's like, I got. Don't worry, I got the kids till 11. And I feel like a hero. And she sees right through it, and she's like. And then at 11, you know what.

[Adam Schefter]

Else I don't want? I. I don't want the super bowl in London.

[Dan Katz]

No, that.

[Adam Schefter]

That's.

[Dan Katz]

That will be un American. I actually. Shefty, you better get that stopped.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if you succeed Roger Goodell, you better be the man that gets it done.

[Dan Katz]

Basically, if there's a Super bowl in London, we are going to be so pissed we won a war so that we don't have to play a Super bowl in London. Okay, we're not doing this. It's good.

[Adam Schefter]

They're going to try to put it in, though, right? That's. That's one of the next ones up.

[PFT Commenter]

They say there's no international Super Bowl. Super bowl on the horizon. I. I think at some point in our lifetimes, I. I think there'll be an international.

[Adam Schefter]

I hope he's right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but it doesn't sound like it's anytime soon enough.

[Adam Schefter]

But Goodell wants it so badly. All right, let's get some of the fun stuff. Shefty New Year's Eve 2024. You send off a very nice in memoriam tweet where you honor those that we lost in the year 2024. How many different edits did you go through to figure out where to put O.J. simpson's name in the middle so that nobody saw that?

[PFT Commenter]

I went back and forth on that one. Like, I mean, I always. I don't know what it is, but every year I keep a file of people who lost their lives. Like, I'm just fascinated by it. And I just think that it's a way to pay respect to people who have lost their lives. And so I keep it running.

[Dan Katz]

Do you have any notes on them?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I just literally have it on my computer at home and I add.

[Dan Katz]

Like, a death file. Like, so Virginia McCaskey's the. The first entrant in the death file for 2025, R.I.P.

[PFT Commenter]

She'S not the first one in this year.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, who was the first?

[PFT Commenter]

I think my dog Benny.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, you RIP Benny.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Anyway, sad to hear that.

[Dan Katz]

That's such. You just did that to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Benny. Yeah. Blake. Stella. You understand, right?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah. How old was Benny?

[PFT Commenter]

Benny was 15 and.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, that's awesome. And so Benny actually in dog years was older than Virginia McCaskey.

[PFT Commenter]

Benny. Yeah, he was pretty crazy. We have an 18 year old at home.

[Dan Katz]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's blind and deaf. And we have another 15 year old that named Bailey that I don't know. Four months ago, the doctors recommended she. She couldn't walk anymore. And the doctors recommended we put her down. And she was so mentally alert and aware. My wife and I, like, we're not putting her down. And she's regained some of her ability to walk. She kind of walks like a crab now. Like, you know, she craps in the house all the time.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

She can't get out, but she's our dog.

[Dan Katz]

Stella had to say. Stella had diagnosed with kidney disease when she was like 10 or 11. And the one of the vets was like, yeah, she's probably got six months to a year and she's. We're three years past that. And it's like, once you get to the 1314, you're like, this has been an awesome run. I know. It's. It's Benny.

[PFT Commenter]

On February 23rd last year, I was sitting at my. My kitchen table and he came hobbling in like he. We're like, what the heck happens? We watched the ring camera and he went to jump up the step in the back into our house and he missed it and he couldn't walk. So I took him to the vet. They did some X rays. They didn't find anything. Took him to another vet. They did an mri and they. They came out and they're like, he's got a 20cl. Okay. And we also found cancer in his liver that spread to his lungs. And I said, you know, I mean, I'll never forget it. The doctor called us. I was with my wife for hysterical. And like, how long he goes. I'd say two to three months. And that was February 23rd.

[Adam Schefter]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

And he made it for almost a full year. The last conversation. I work with Chris Mortensen. I called him because I was so distraught over Benny. I called him on a Thursday, like I was broken up. And then Mort passed away on Saturday, which was. Or Sunday morning. You guys have dogs?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. No, I know. Dogs are the best.

[PFT Commenter]

They are the best. They are family. They. They're children. We have four now. We'll always have dogs. Love dogs.

[Dan Katz]

The one I always think about is the quote Peter King had. Even though he still owes us money, he said that the only way to not feel the pain of a dog passing is to never own a dog. And what a sad life that would be. That's it. You can just not own a dog. And then you. And. But you. You don't get all the joy of it. Rip Benny. A moment of silence for Benny.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Adam Schefter]

Good dog.

[Dan Katz]

So why did you have OJ in that?

[PFT Commenter]

Back to that. Let me ask you, would you have left him out?

[Adam Schefter]

Now, he did have 2,000 yards in season.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

14 games.

[Dan Katz]

And he did die.

[Adam Schefter]

Separate the art from the artist. He did die. Now, on the other hand, he committed double murder, so I'm gonna say toss up. He's found not guilty, though, of double murder. But he did do that.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

But he blocked me on Twitter.

[Dan Katz]

That's true. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

No, I would leave him out. You leave it out because you wouldn't see it anyways. He's got to be blocked.

[Dan Katz]

Maybe a separate tweet being like. And also not rest in peace.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what the amazing thing is? Is, like, I'm like, the guy died.

[Dan Katz]

He did die.

[PFT Commenter]

He had an accomplished life, good and bad.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So he. He was. I didn't think anything of it, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, controversy.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, it was just that it was. It was hidden in the middle. Which was the right move if you're going to have it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, it.

[Adam Schefter]

Was it chronological.

[PFT Commenter]

It's always sequential.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's always sequential.

[Dan Katz]

So what you should have done.

[PFT Commenter]

List. I take that list and I just post the list of. To. I try to.

[Adam Schefter]

Is it your computer?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I try to honor the people we lost.

[Dan Katz]

Here's what you should have done, because this is a running bit with us when, like, people say, you know, J.J. watt such a better person than he is football player. And we're like, no, he's not. Like, he was one of the best football players ever. There's no way he's one of the best humans ever. That's no offense to him. But you should have just said OJ Simpson. Significantly better football player than.

[PFT Commenter]

Or. Or I could have put O.J. simpson asterisk.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Maybe not dead. No, actually, no, he's. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I never astericked anybody that lost their life in that year.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I could have asked any of the classifications that you want.

[Adam Schefter]

Maybe you do a separate. A separate post for the People who have died who are also murderers.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, right. The asterisks could also be like, O.J. simpson still like what? It would be like his war is still like plus one because he. Katie took two lives.

[Adam Schefter]

Katie ratio.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that's something like that. We could workshop it.

[PFT Commenter]

If that comes, you let me know. You know what?

[Dan Katz]

I'll.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll send this. Upcoming years.

[Dan Katz]

Was Aaron Hernandez in the. In the end of the year.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, how long have we been doing this?

[Dan Katz]

This death file is.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Dan Katz]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

I used to be able to do it. It would. You know what? Instagram, you could post as many names as you want.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So Twitter, I think there was a limit.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And what year was Aaron Hernandez? It would have been roughly 2,012 years ago.

[Dan Katz]

A long time ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I was posting names back then.

[Dan Katz]

But I had not had the death.

[PFT Commenter]

We avoided the issue back then.

[Adam Schefter]

The other thing I really want to bring up with you about, you know, some year and some small missteps, I feel like it was a pretty clean year for you.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Were you illegally streaming the Jets Texans game on meth streams?

[PFT Commenter]

You know. You know what's amazing about that?

[Dan Katz]

Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft Is that I believe it was the Malachi Corley play. Correct. Where he fumbled.

[Dan Katz]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So I had this app where you could take the video, put it in there and get the video. And in this particular play, I kept waiting for the NFL to post the video right away. And it. It took a long time. It wasn't posting. So I'm looking, I'm looking. I see the video.

[Dan Katz]

On mess streams.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, I'm thinking the sequence now. I used to do it that way and then field Yates, who Now we're going to have to blame. We're throwing.

[Adam Schefter]

Field under the bus.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, absolutely. Gonna throw. Feel. He said all you have to. Let me show you something. If you just press.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's very easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Press. Well, I'm trying to download. I'm trying to think.

[Dan Katz]

Which not even press download, but just.

[PFT Commenter]

I think, you know. Yeah, that's what happened. Field. Show me after the fact.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, this is a long answer for just you watching mess streams. Are you in the mess stream?

[PFT Commenter]

Can you edit this answer to make it more succinct? I'm not used to speaking this much Attitude. Okay, now I have the sequence. So I see it. I'm waiting for the NFL to post it. Doesn't post it. I finally see somebody post it. I copy the link, I put it in the app, I get the video, I post it, and the next Thing I know, I'm getting besieged with messages.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

About meth.

[Adam Schefter]

Meth streams. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, meth streams, it was a refuge for those of us that didn't want to pay for all the different packages you have to do. And now they shut down. They shut it down because you blew it up.

[PFT Commenter]

I like to think that journalists are crusaders and we're here to right the wrongs in the world. And so there are a lot of people that were illegally streaming on meth and they shouldn't be on meth anyway. Nobody should be on met.

[Dan Katz]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

So they took away a great website within my powers. I took it to squash meth, which to this day, I get pissed off messages in my DM sometimes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Like, you should. You. You're right.

[PFT Commenter]

But I feel like I'm trying to help people. They should. You're not met.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, You're.

[PFT Commenter]

People shouldn't be on meth. But the great part was the next day I'm seeing people. They're like, Adam Schefter's tried to find ways around paying the 899.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Amazon, like, can I tell you something? Can I tell you what my wife orders from amaz Amazon, like five, six times a day? 8.99. I mean, that is just laughable that I'm trying to find. And I. I am so far from being equipped or smart enough to figure out a go around to avoid like.

[Adam Schefter]

But really, it's Field Yates fault.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And also afterwards. Afterwards, Field age. And let me just show you how to do something. All you do is press down the video. It credits the people, and then you can just post the video.

[Adam Schefter]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

So Field deserves credit for that. I wish he had shown it to me before I could actually be the one responsible for taking down.

[Dan Katz]

He thinks the lady doth protest too much.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I think you were doing some math.

[Dan Katz]

You were on meth.

[Adam Schefter]

You strike me as a meth guy. You don't sleep.

[PFT Commenter]

I never. I never knew any of this existed until after the fact when I'm getting all these texts.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, this is. This is a lot of. Yeah, I think it's Breaking Badam. I think that's what it is. I think that. I think that you are. You get a problem. We'll get back to Adam Schefter in a second. He's brought to you by Chevy. Our great friends at Chevy would like you to know that they have packed more capability into the Silverado Trail, boss. More capability than ever. You can pack more fun into your weekend with the Silverado Trail, boss. Have Yourself a Friday Saturday sunye with a truck that says no to nothing. Tailgates, spontaneous camping trips, DIY projects. Bring it on. What about a cross country road trip? Silverado was the perfect ride for last year's great week out west. And recently they helped us give fullbacks the recognition that they deserve with the low man award. Shout out. Tyler Crow, Boise State. Well, the Silverado Trail Boss is built like a fullback. We're talking 495 foot pounds of torque. Hold on to those sodas, Max. Plus, the Trail Boss gives you an extra 2 inch lift. So maybe Hank can finally dunk. And they bring the grit. They pair it with all the latest truck tech, inside and out. The result is a truck that can do it all. Then show up Monday with a story to tell. So learn more about the Silverado trail [e-mail] Chevrolet together. Let's drive. Chef is also brought to you by Ubereats. It's winter. You can now get almost anything you need for the coldest months of the year delivered with Ubereats. What do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a snowplow delivered, but you can get snow peas delivered. Sunshine, that's a no. But a bottle of wine, that's a yes. Snow angel? No. Angel hair pasta. Yes. Ubereats can get you that, along with a side of garlic bread and creme brulee. To top it all off, get almost almost anything for your winter delivered with UberEats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See the app for details. Now here's more. Adam Schefter, do you think you're washed.

[Dan Katz]

Up because you didn't announce Punxsutawney Phil?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Dan Katz]

You did. Last year. I did.

[PFT Commenter]

I did do it.

[Dan Katz]

Didn't do this year.

[PFT Commenter]

You did. Oh, you were first. Well, I could say this. I think that time honor, tradition is dead. I think I'm not doing it ever again.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, so you are washed.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Dan Katz]

Well, younger Adam chefs are like, if there's a. If there's a scoop, I'm gonna get it.

[PFT Commenter]

We evolve over time.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

We evolve.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I've done it enough that there was a posting about this. Like there was meth. Like there is with seemingly many things that I do with my life about how Adam Schefter posted about the Groundhog Day Again. Like, I thought people kind of liked. I thought it's. I think it's always interesting.

[Dan Katz]

Well, I think it's. It speaks to your addiction to scoops, and I like that about you where, like, is there any scoop you wouldn't take? Because I. I kind of enjoy when you, like, drop a random NBA scoop or a rat sees his shadow in. In Western Pennsylvania. Like, that's. So there's someone out there being, like, shefty got me again. Like, this was my.

[PFT Commenter]

I love information. I love anything that's, like, whoa, I didn't know this. Right. So anything like that, whatever it's related to, I'm in love that about you. But I think I'm getting out of the punkstutaney Phil business. Okay, so you guys got the story first here. I think we're out of that. Okay.

[Dan Katz]

Breaking news. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Breaking news poster. Tawny Phil will not be seeing a shadow for me anymore.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I just feel like this is you getting out because other people are getting the scoops ahead of time. Like, you got bullied out of the Groundhog space.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true, too.

[Dan Katz]

Like, if you can't win, you quit. Is that what people are saying?

[PFT Commenter]

I just think that, like I said, that's actually a great space becoming crowded. Right. And so when everybody's weighing in on Punxsutawney Phil, it's time for you to go find the next avenue to explore.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay. You want to talk more NFL right now?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Like, what's going on?

[PFT Commenter]

Those are all the fun topics you got from the controversy.

[Adam Schefter]

All right, so when the Luca trade happened, you said that for an NFL comparison, this is like, Lamar Jackson plus for Joe Burrow plus. And I thought that they. You made it seem like they were streaming services. You put, like, the little plus sign next to it. I don't know if that's a great comparison.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? Here's what happened. You might be right to me, and I am a big NBA fan. Like, it's a huge trade. Huge. And so you're talking about a veteran and a younger superstar, a guy who's won championships, a guy who I think will win championships. It's just a colossal trade. I was just trying to think of two stars. Probably a better analogy. Like, literally, I was asleep when Shams broke it. So, like, I'm thinking, like, what is this? Like, I've never seen anything like this. I came up with that. Some people didn't like it. Okay. Again, upon further reflection, maybe it would be like, Dak Prescott for Justin Herbert. Maybe that would be a better one. I don't know.

[Dan Katz]

I think the Joe Burrow for Matt.

[Adam Schefter]

Stafford was a. Yeah, that's a good.

[Dan Katz]

Decent one where it's like, the. The age like, it's, you know, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

Just fun to wonder about it. Like, yeah, there's no right or wrong. Like, that was something that came to me as I woke up in bed. As I'm laying in bed. It was the first Saturday night where I said, I don't have to check on any injuries here for the first time. And I dozed off. I wake up, I said, I'm like, what the hell is this? Like everybody else. And that's what came to me at that moment. Sorry it offended as many people as it did.

[Adam Schefter]

No, thank you for your apology.

[Dan Katz]

Thank you. Appreciate your.

[Adam Schefter]

But I appreciate the fact that you said it.

[Dan Katz]

One other fun one. Do you think you should get any credit for dunking on Doug Gottlieb? Because that's like, this isn't a height joke. That's like dunking on, like a five foot rim. Everyone could dunk on Doug Godlieb, you.

[PFT Commenter]

Know, he texted me after the fact. And when he texted after that, I. I started rooting for Wisconsin, Green Bay. It was a rough year. Rooting for them.

[Dan Katz]

No, they're bad. They're really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a rough year. But, you know, and I even debated, actually. I tried to go to one of the games and I went through Chicago. The good part was it was like before the super bowl. And so I was going to Wisconsin group, I came through Chicago and I didn't have any clothes. The airlines lost my bag. So I was going to Chicago and I found these two duffel bags and was able to drive by, pick up a couple of duffel bags, got a bunch of clothes, got some great jump shoots right now. Worked out pretty well.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Rooting for Wisconsin, Green Bay.

[Dan Katz]

You did get him good. He said it was a story about Sacramento state raising 50 million, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way. Like, like, the athletic director told me that.

[Dan Katz]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, he comes like, what he responds to that.

[Dan Katz]

But is the athletic director telling you that? Is that not like a stripper saying, like, I really like you, Adam?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe so.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But the athletic director said.

[Dan Katz]

He did say it.

[PFT Commenter]

He's the athletic director. He said we had 50 million. Which people were like, hey, that's not right. Okay, take it up with him.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, take it up with him. Yeah. So Godlip said, Jesus Chef Edit, what agents tell you, 0.0% chance. Sacramento State.

[Adam Schefter]

Sacramento State.

[Dan Katz]

And then you said, and Jesus, Doug, a seven game losing streak in last place in the Horizon League. Less time on social media, more time in the gym got him, by the way. Like, and then. And Then they went on to lose, like, 14 more games in a row. Updated 20.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the deal. I, I, I try never to clap back. I don't like that, that. But when people post factually incorrect information, like, clean up with the agent, like, no, no. I was talking to the athletic director.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

This is what he said.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you want me to do?

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Dan Katz]

That's fair. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Source off you. I think you won the source off, but Big Cat's kind of right.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Doug Gottlieb. Come on, like, take it easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Everyone, he's gone. T ball.

[Adam Schefter]

He's been through enough.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. We can all take take hacks at.

[Adam Schefter]

Doug, we got a news breaking right now.

[Dan Katz]

What do you got? Yeah, don't try to. Don't do this to us. Don't fake us.

[Adam Schefter]

You remember when you faked me out?

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, big news.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. ESPN has resigned Laura Rutledge to a big deal.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, huge.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

You didn't get that scoop.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't get that scoop.

[Dan Katz]

That's you.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what? Laura Rutledge is a rock star.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. We like Laura.

[PFT Commenter]

She's fantastic.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

She deserves everything she gets, and I'm very happy to see.

[Adam Schefter]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

So disappointed I didn't get it, but that's the way it goes.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I was wondering if that was gonna be. Matt Staff, Stafford News. Where's where gun to your head. Matt Stafford's next team, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I, I, I, I, I don't like. Oh, first of all, guns pointed at my head.

[Dan Katz]

A lot of guns. Pug, get the guns up. Che.

[Adam Schefter]

Where's he playing at him?

[PFT Commenter]

Makes me very nice.

[Adam Schefter]

Where's he playing?

[Dan Katz]

Jay is refusing to put the guns. I said, Jay goes, no, no, no way.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I really don't know right now because it's kind of a coin flip kind of thing.

[Dan Katz]

You're dead. Like, so I, I, we believe that he's probably going to either the Giants or probably resign with the Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

Those are the two plausible scenarios.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Raiders are out there lurking as well.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think those would be the three scenarios that make sense. And honestly, I think it changes on a fairly regular basis. So that's why I don't want to predict, hey, he's going to resign with the Rams, and all of a sudden, lo and behold, there he is traded to one of those other two teams. Or he's going to be traded, and lo and behold, decides to go back to the room. Because these things change all the time.

[Dan Katz]

Right? All right, so what About Aaron Rodgers, is he going to play football?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's say I think he's going to play.

[Dan Katz]

He's going to play, and I think.

[PFT Commenter]

He has something to prove in his own mind. And I think there's going to be a chip on his shoulder, and we know what that guy's like with a chip on his shoulder. And I think you have to wait for Matthew Stafford to see where he goes before we could figure out where Aaron Rodgers is going to go. Because I think once Matthew Stafford's situation is settled, then Aaron Rodgers gets to follow us.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, so if. If Rogers. If. If Stafford signs with the Giants, it sounds like you're saying Rogers to the Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

I definitely could see that happening.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, so let me throw out a couple team names. You can be like, no chance, or. Yeah, that could happen. So Rams, you said that you could see that happening.

[PFT Commenter]

Raiders, I could see it happening. Steelers, I could see it happening. Titans, don't see that happening. Colts don't see that happening. Browns don't see that happening. Giants could see that happening.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

So I give you four teams that I could see, Right?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, but he's definitely playing.

[PFT Commenter]

I believe he's going to play. Yes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And Kelsey's coming back, right?

[PFT Commenter]

He is training and preparing as if he's going to come back. What? You never know. What if Marvel Studios comes and says, hey, we want you.

[Dan Katz]

Like, we need more Kelsey.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but he's preparing and planning to come back. Plans change. But yes, they think he's going to be back. I think he thinks he's going to be back. But let's see what happens.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm not a comic book guy. Are there. Is there a role that Marvel would be looking at and be like, this is Kelsey.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I could see him doing like. Like, he's such a big personality and so charismatic. Like he could do anything he wants.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So if they want to turn him into some movie star.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They want to turn him into the next rock.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Couldn't you see that? I could see that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I would like. I mean, I would like to see him retire and. And try to play on 11 level playing field podcasting wise with us because we're not in the NFL. We retired long ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Their podcast, they make a lot more money than you guys. Right. I know you guys done well, but they. They've really done.

[Adam Schefter]

They sold out.

[Dan Katz]

Appreciate it.

[Adam Schefter]

Is owned by Jeff Bezos, not us.

[Dan Katz]

Hey, as somebody, I don't know who we could say that about for. Chef, as podcast, McAfee makes significantly more Money than you. Right, Chef? Absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

And deserves to, and I'm okay with that. But for my podcast. I've never made any money for my podcast.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, you change the name.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys have made far more money than I have in my podcast.

[Dan Katz]

We have. We've made a very good living.

[PFT Commenter]

Congratulations.

[Dan Katz]

They've done well.

[PFT Commenter]

When you turn 40 years old.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To hit it the way you guys have.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that's pretty good. Years left in us.

[Adam Schefter]

Pretty good. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You might not need jumpsuits. We've had a lot of success.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they all get stolen. Yeah, no, it's. It's been. It's been a wild ride. But the. The Kelsey's, they do need to quit it with the antics and just, you know, get on as two normal guys doing a podcast. Let's see if they can do it.

[Dan Katz]

I don't know if they can.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't think they can.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, the level of. Of success that they've achieved with that is incredible.

[Dan Katz]

All right, let's not. I mean, we're.

[PFT Commenter]

We're hiring.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I mean, if you take the most.

[Adam Schefter]

Famous person in the world, it's pretty easy to get their listens.

[Dan Katz]

They launched a podcast. He started dating Taylor Swift, and they played in a Super bowl against each other. Try to. Try to. Try to do that on a, you know, pick. Pick us up one on one in the middle of August when we're debating, you know, the color of yellow chi or of American cheese.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

See us there.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. They couldn't. They couldn't pull that off. They're. They're playing from the red tees.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

We're back on the championship team.

[Dan Katz]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

And you guys have played like champions.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes, we have played like. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so I've seen PFT drive 400 yards.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, he's got it.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes. You have seen that. Yeah. Also, thank you for the Christmas presents or for the holiday present.

[Dan Katz]

Incredible. Yep.

[Adam Schefter]

Yep.

[Dan Katz]

Incredible.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I don't know how you get the blankets to smell nice, too.

[PFT Commenter]

That. That's. We do that. We take care of it. Full service.

[Adam Schefter]

It smells nice. It's Blake's favorite place to lay. It's my dog's favorite blanket.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, you know what? My wife got those blankets, like, in dog beds. Like, they're unbelievable.

[Adam Schefter]

They're very soft. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

What? So we. We did Rogers, we did Stafford. What about Sam Darnold?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think when I see Kwesi Dolpho Mensa, their GM of the Vikings, talk the way he did in such glowing terms about J.J. mcCarthy, to me, that says, like, okay, they're setting it up for JJ to be the guy. Yeah, that's what it seems like. I think that they would like Sam back, but they'd like Sam back at their number. And so again, where's Matthew Stafford going? Is he going to the Rams? Is he going to the Raiders? Is he going to the Giants? Because I think if he doesn't wind up with the Raiders, I think Sam Darnold potentially could come into play with the Raiders. I could see that happening. You need the domino of Stafford to fall to begin to place the other quarterback chess pieces. But Sam Darnold I think will do well. But to me, it feels like Minnesota is shaping up to be J.J. mcCarthy. And we'll see what here happens here in the next couple of weeks.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

All right. Interesting. What about Cleveland? What. What can Cleveland do at the quarterback position?

[PFT Commenter]

To me, they have to draft a quarterback with their first pick, which I assume to be two, but maybe they go up to one to lock it in the guy they want. They're not very far from the top, and Tennessee could go back one slot and get basically whoever they want if they're not going to go quarterback. And the Titans are still going through their process. They've spoken to teams and told them we're interested in talking, but we need to get through our process first, go through the combine, go through pro days before they derive their decision about what they're going to do at one. Cleveland, to me, I predict it'll be a quarterback, period. I think they have to do quarterback. They're that high, they're that financially strapped with the Sean Watson, there's that much of a need. You need something to uplift the spirits of the organization. I believe the Browns go quarterback.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay. All right.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. What about. What's a story that you've got? Maybe not a prediction, but, like, something that we don't see coming. You usually good at that or like something to just say, here's a tickler file. This guy might, you know, not play forever. Or this guy, this coach. Anything on the horizon? A league rule. Oh, is the tush push going to get banned?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think so. Like, how do you. How do you ban that?

[Adam Schefter]

It seems like sore loser stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

It just seems like, okay, so you can't push the tush. By the way, their success rate in that play is. What is it, 92%. So if we take away. You can't touch his tush.

[Dan Katz]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And Jalen Hurts is still sneaking behind Makai Becton and Jordan Mylotta and Lane Johnson. Like, don't you think he's still gonna succeed on that play? 75 of the time? So I don't know. We're talking. And by the way, what about the plays where the running backs in the open field and all of a sudden people are pushing him? What about the plays with a wide receiver, tight end catches a pass, and they're being. That's not a lot either. Right? Because we're not allowed to push anybody anymore. Is the quarterback sneak now banned?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or it's just banned where you just can't touch the guy. Look, I've heard more opposition to it this week than I thought I would, but I don't know that there's a way to legislate it out of the game right now.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Interesting. All right, so what's going on with Tom Brady and the Raiders? How. How active is he?

[PFT Commenter]

He's been active.

[Adam Schefter]

Is he, like, calling shots out there?

[PFT Commenter]

His voice is being heard. I don't know that he's the final guy, but I think that Tom has a lot of say there, and he should. He's smart, hardworking, bright guy. I think that they brought him in for a reason, and he's been involved in all this.

[Adam Schefter]

Do we care at all about the ethics of Tom Brady owning a team and then also participating?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's crazy.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, so, by the way, so he can't go to practice to watch what the Chiefs are doing when he could watch it on tape? You don't think that Tom Brady is smart to go back and look at the tape? If they are in production meetings, I would hope and think that if you are uncomfortable, if you are the Chiefs or Broncos or Chargers and you're uncomfortable that Tom Brady is broadcast, then. Then don't give all the information. Withhold what you need to withhold.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Or. Or say, Tom, you can't come in the meeting.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, Tom. Still. They're not hiring him to be. I'm a reporter. Tom Brady has played this game at a high level for a long time. They hired him because he has done things, seen things, been through things that none of us ever have. That's what he's supposed to be bringing to the game. So if they never allow him in a production meeting and never allow him in a practice, to me, that doesn't matter in the way that Tom Brady's doing his job.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

That's fair.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. All right. So we talked about the 18 game. Is there ever going to be a chance for a double buy Because I feel like. Or is that no chance, two buys.

[PFT Commenter]

I think, I think that'd be a.

[Dan Katz]

Part of the 18 games.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, if I were the NFL or the NFL PA and I'm coming to the players, we know how much the players don't want to play an 18th game and I understand why that would be the case. But if I'm asking you, you guys played in the NFL and I said to you, would you rather have a 17 game season with one buy or an 18 game season with two buys, what would you rather have?

[Dan Katz]

I'd rather have two buys.

[Adam Schefter]

Two buys. But also I would play for free. I would too because I care so much.

[PFT Commenter]

You would?

[Adam Schefter]

I love the game.

[Dan Katz]

I'd actually, I'd actually pay them them Well, I, I, I'd pay them to be able to play.

[Adam Schefter]

But I think the double buy, I like the double buy.

[PFT Commenter]

Double buy, 18 games. And I know you guys are doing for free, but there's gonna be a lot more money, a lot more money involved.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because we can now sell the extra TV package.

[Dan Katz]

Right, Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So okay, I'll take the extra buy, the extra money and then, and by the way, football could always do load management like basketball.

[Adam Schefter]

No, we don't, we don't want the.

[Dan Katz]

I, I, I've always thought that the, the solution to the double buy is there just needs to be Universal has their playoff now. So whatever it is early December, every team's on a buy and then you have college football games on that Sunday. And also you give everyone a chance to do their Christmas shopping. Like, you know, check in, be like, like the universal buy a check in with everyone kind of reset the whole world for the home stretch.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's sort of like the NBA does for the All Star break that the sport shuts down for basically a week. Yeah, right.

[Adam Schefter]

The game. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean I think you're talking about taking that. I don't like when they be does that. I kind of like as a guy who plays fantasy basketball and loves it, I kind of miss it.

[Dan Katz]

How'd you do this year or how are you doing?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in second place. But my team, it's kind of Hammond egg.

[Dan Katz]

How'd you do in fantasy football this year?

[PFT Commenter]

I lost in the opening round of the playoffs. Great regular season.

[Dan Katz]

Brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Are you interested in potentially taking on another team not as a day to day manager, but more in a, a ownership role where you would oversee the.

[PFT Commenter]

Day to day to day manager as in fantasy? Yeah, I, I think I'm as much fantasied out as I can be. Like, I allow it to consume my thoughts and dictate my moods.

[Dan Katz]

But again, you wouldn't have to. You would just have to manage a person managing the team.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. I don't want to do that.

[Dan Katz]

Like, Jerry O'Connell is the person we're talking about. We're looking to fill a role where he needs someone kind of holding his hand.

[Adam Schefter]

It's almost like so he knows that somebody's watching them.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

We really want to strike fear.

[PFT Commenter]

I do that with a lot of people already.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. A lot of people that reach out, like, constantly texting.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, We. We would like to. We want to figure out a way to. To add more bureaucratic red tape to our fantasy operation where we just have multiple layers of managers. Would you be interested?

[PFT Commenter]

Probably not.

[Dan Katz]

Slot you into that middle management role.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not. I don't. I don't like middle managing. I don't like bureaucracy.

[Dan Katz]

I kind of want to do this just because Jerry would text. Chef or non.

[Adam Schefter]

Can we just. Can we just say, listen, I got.

[PFT Commenter]

Certain guys that already do that. Yeah, here's.

[Adam Schefter]

Here's the deal. What if we just. It requires no work on your part.

[PFT Commenter]

You just accept the title as entitle only.

[Dan Katz]

Yes, entitle only.

[Adam Schefter]

Entitle only A governing owner.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's fine.

[Dan Katz]

Governing owner of Jerry O'Connell. We're the. We're the principal owners of the operation. So we're a. Top of you.

[PFT Commenter]

You're fronting it.

[Dan Katz]

We're. Yeah, we're on top of you. We front the money, but you will be the governing owner in name only, of Jerry O'Connell funnel.

[PFT Commenter]

Figure it. And is there anything for me to gain?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, like immortality, if we win.

[Adam Schefter]

And also just power a spot on.

[PFT Commenter]

The wall of fame.

[Dan Katz]

Listen, I'll tell you this. If. If we win the fantasy league this year, when we do the trophy presentation, Pft. And I obviously will hold the trophy first. You'll hold the trophy second, then Jerry O'Connell.

[PFT Commenter]

That sounds fair to me.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I mean, really, what you get. Get out of it, aside from the trophy, potentially, is you get power over Jerry O'Connell, which means that you can fire him.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Adam Schefter]

At any given time, you don't have to do anything. But if you wake up one day and you're like, it's time for a change. We got to shake things up in the locker room and that.

[Dan Katz]

You can do that. When Jerry gets mad at us that he got fired, like, it wasn't us, it was Chef.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Blame Me?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody else does.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But speaking of that, how matter Chiefs fans at you?

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I, I didn't get that either.

[Dan Katz]

Like, so explain what happened, how, how.

[PFT Commenter]

It all went down. The story was like, like they're expanding replay assist to include slides. I remember writing the story and being like, okay, well, what does this mean? Like, like the slide of Patrick Mahomes, it wasn't directed. I, I don't care. Like, I don't feel like there's some vendetta. I wasn't trying to stir up anything. And all of a sudden I got people going nuts about that. That was not my intent. I, I didn't like that it became that. And it was unfortunate, the whole thing.

[Dan Katz]

What fan base hates you the most?

[PFT Commenter]

It depends on the time that there was a time when, I mean, we could go through this. There have been various fan bases that have hated me at various points.

[Dan Katz]

What's the worst it's gotten with a fan base?

[PFT Commenter]

You know, again, two weeks ago it would have been Kansas City.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Rogers, when he was the packers, it was Green Bay.

[Dan Katz]

Like, it's just whatever's in the news.

[PFT Commenter]

It's what's ever in the news at that time.

[Adam Schefter]

The Jets. Did the jets hate you this year?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think so. Maybe. Unless you know something. I don't know.

[Dan Katz]

He's clean.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. It's just, you know, you're not going to be able to please all the people all the time.

[Adam Schefter]

Sometimes when you deliver bad news, they do shoot the message.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I always shoot. I try to deliver, literally black and white, factual information. O.J. simpson died.

[Adam Schefter]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Fact.

[Dan Katz]

He did. He died.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it.

[Adam Schefter]

You got it right. You got the story right. All right, so what about this name for potentially being on the move? Max Crosby.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I don't think they'll part ways with a guy like that that means so much to their city that's so important, especially with the way that Mark Davis has felt about him. But we've got a whole slew of defensive ends here who are going to get paid this offseason. Like, you got T.J. watt, maybe Miles Garrett. It Cleveland or somewhere else, you've got Trey Hendrickson, who's got to get paid. There are a whole host of defensive ends that are going to get paid a lot of money. So I'm sure the Raiders are preparing to sign Max Crosby through a lucrative extension that he deserves. But if they're not, then, then they should look to deal him. And by the way, they're rebuilding Although I'm sure they don't feel that way. He would be the most valuable chip that they have. That guy's an unbelievable player.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

One more gun to your head.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, God damn.

[Dan Katz]

Get him up.

[Adam Schefter]

Next quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

Landman, get him up.

[Adam Schefter]

Next quarterback. Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Dan Katz]

Sound guy.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

Get in there.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yes. Get him. Memes. Get it. Scan the room we got.

[PFT Commenter]

Do I have to answer with my hands up?

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Pittsburgh Steelers. Next quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

Steelers. Next quarterback.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Russell Wilson or Justin Fields.

[Dan Katz]

No way. All right.

[Adam Schefter]

They're staying put.

[Dan Katz]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

One of them will be back.

[Adam Schefter]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

One of them. I expect to be back.

[Dan Katz]

Which one?

[PFT Commenter]

Russell Wilson.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Saucy for Russia.

[Adam Schefter]

He's back.

[Dan Katz]

We're sussing for Russie. Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

What about Jameis Winston? What's the. What's the market expected to look like for James Winston?

[PFT Commenter]

I'd want him on my team.

[Adam Schefter]

Y.

[PFT Commenter]

Seven days or. Seven days.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know where he's going to wind up going, but, boy, that guy is. He's fun.

[Adam Schefter]

Somebody very happy.

[Dan Katz]

He's a lot of fun. He's a lot of fun. All right, I got one last question. This has been so much fun. We love having you on Chef D every year. And I'm excited to get that phone. We need that phone. Rollback question. Rho, B, A C k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. What is Shefty doing for vacation this year? You deserve a vacation. What are you doing? Doing? When is it happening? What are you doing? No vacation. Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

We have zero plant.

[Dan Katz]

Ah, come on.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, it's always nice after the draft when you enter a quiet period. There always is going to be something. And as I say with the NFL, whatever happens on May 4 or May 18, the schedule release, that becomes the biggest thing. And when there's nothing else to talk about and there's that one thing that happens that day, some player signs an extension, some player gets cut, some player gets in trouble, like that becomes the biggest thing. Because that's how everything is with the NFL. And there's always something. And I just feel like the job is even at that time, you just. You're always on alert, right? You're always on guard. So vacation. I will say this. I'd love to go on a vacation where you could disconnect and turn everything off. I haven't done that in my adult life.

[Dan Katz]

Why don't you do it? We'll handle It. We'll just take your phone.

[PFT Commenter]

If I give you the phone.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then I could. We could give you the active phone next to the.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. We'll just handle it.

[Adam Schefter]

We wouldn't mess up your career too bad.

[Dan Katz]

Just a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

But no vacations planned.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Zero. My kids have been after me. My kids really want to go to Italy. Really?

[Dan Katz]

Take them to Italy.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I was talking to this guy last summer, and he's like. Like, he was turning 70. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm renting a house in Italy for a month, and I'm inviting my friends and some of my family. Anybody who wants to come can come. Anybody who doesn't, doesn't have to. And I thought, that's a really cool idea.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

My kids want to do that.

[Dan Katz]

Would we get the invite?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, in a couple years, I'll be 60.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

58.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, you guys.

[Dan Katz]

We'd get the invite if we do that.

[PFT Commenter]

If I can't make it.

[Dan Katz]

But I would love the invite.

[Adam Schefter]

I would stop in.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

By the way, like, I'd say the entire month. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a good time for this. Like, my daughter will be finishing high school.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

My ESPN contract will be up. I'll be 60. So maybe we just.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Shut it all out.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Did you think about that at all with Woj retiring? Like, that had to have crossed your mind.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, I. I have so much respect for what he did. My wife would never let me do the same thing.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay. Become athletic director at Michigan.

[PFT Commenter]

You know that day when he did that, I got 20 texts like, are you taking the GM job? There's a whole new industry now.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, there's a whole new world out there of GMs in college. And listen, I. I love Wo. He's one of my dear friends. When we talked about him doing this, you know, I did my best initially to say, hey, just think of the other side. Think about this. Do one more year. He was done.

[Dan Katz]

It's good for him.

[PFT Commenter]

It's unbelievable.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, it's. And people are like, oh, you think a couple of people, like, you think Woj was sorry he wasn't working for the LUCA trade? I'm like, woj couldn't give a crap.

[Dan Katz]

That's all.

[PFT Commenter]

That he didn't work on the Lucas.

[Adam Schefter]

My dream scenario is that he got the text for the. For the Luca trade. He got on his phone, he looked at it, and he goes, that's the old me.

[Dan Katz]

Close.

[Adam Schefter]

His phone threw it away. Like threw it into the ocean.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, I forgot. Che, you got some questions.

[Adam Schefter]

Also, Chef, you look good for 58.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you do.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Dan Katz]

You're.

[Adam Schefter]

Look, you might be Daddy is Chef.

[Dan Katz]

Or Daddy Chester might be Daddy.

[PFT Commenter]

What does that mean?

[Dan Katz]

You're.

[Adam Schefter]

When you know what you're dad.

[Dan Katz]

Well, this is. Well, as you age, like, you're gonna get the, like the first 60 years of being someone who's maybe not tall, I would say.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Might not be the best. But then as you get older, like small dogs live a time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And I, and you do shrink over time, right?

[Dan Katz]

So you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't have much to shrink from.

[Dan Katz]

You'll be like in, in our back pocket in 20 years, carrying you around.

[Adam Schefter]

Before Che memes does have one question for you that'll ask. Are the jets going to trade up to one or two?

[PFT Commenter]

What are they seven?

[Adam Schefter]

Are they seven memes? Yeah, they're seven.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I don't, I don't see them going to one or two there. They got holes to address and that. It would take a lot to get up there. I, I look, could it happen? Sure. I, I haven't heard that today. Let's see what happens.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want them to trail to one?

[Dan Katz]

I don't. No.

[Adam Schefter]

He just had you kill a bunch of rumors, though.

[Dan Katz]

Apparently squashed them.

[Adam Schefter]

Tons of rumors.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. I kill meth.

[Adam Schefter]

I kill rumors. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

And O.J. simpson.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Chad, there's a lot of people today.

[Memes]

That's actually the perfect segment. We're taping this Wednesday.

[Dan Katz]

This is not going to be a perfect segue.

[Memes]

We're taping this Wednesday before the on field drill starts. Is there, there are four guys kind of at the top of the draft. Cam Ward, Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders. Is there anyone that's either here or sitting at home doing pro day soon that could see a Trayvon Walker type rise to the top pick?

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I'm not smart enough to answer that right now.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I'm just not living in that world field. Yates would answer that question and be spot on, but I couldn't answer that today because I just don't know.

[Memes]

All right, that's fair. I'll replace it with this question.

[Adam Schefter]

It was a good segue.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, great segue, but bad question. Bad question.

[Memes]

We, we talked a lot. We talked a lot about quarterbacks. Is there any world where Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback?

[Dan Katz]

Yes, good question. September, Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. In fact, I've actually had his name come up with head coaches. I've spoken to Whoa. So question. Like, I'm like, oh, so, you know, what if, you know, you can't get that? Daniel Jones. I've heard the name. So I think there's a market for him. I also think that if Sam Darnold leaves, Minnesota would be a natural spot for him to be. And I think that's part of the reason the Vikings brought him in. But is there a scenario where he could wind up as a starter? I think there is.

[Adam Schefter]

Can you tell us what division those coaches have been in?

[PFT Commenter]

It was one coach.

[Adam Schefter]

It was one coach.

[PFT Commenter]

It was just one coach. It brought. It just brought it up.

[Adam Schefter]

And it was that team.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. What team?

[Adam Schefter]

Was it the. Was it the Vikings?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Dan Katz]

No.

[Adam Schefter]

What. What conference?

[Dan Katz]

What color.

[Adam Schefter]

What conference?

[Dan Katz]

Was the team conference in color?

[PFT Commenter]

It was in the National Football League. Okay. All right.

[Dan Katz]

You got one more question.

[Memes]

Yes. So we just had. I don't know what day these are airing, but Liam Cohen was in yesterday, so. James Gladstone.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, did you. When Liam was in here?

[Memes]

Yeah, I gave him the business.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you get after him at all or nothing?

[Memes]

Oh, yes.

[Dan Katz]

He didn't give him the business.

[PFT Commenter]

What you said. What'd you say to him?

[Memes]

How dare he. I. I did not like the way that went down personally. We kind of. Your feelings were hurt. We made amends. My feelings were hurt.

[Dan Katz]

You got his feelings hurt.

[Memes]

But I understand the. The pay difference is astronomical. And, you know, he wanted to be head coach, and I get it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Listen, we all agree with that. Like, you get only so many chances to get one of those jobs. One of 32.

[Dan Katz]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

A salary of eight figures. You can't turn that down. Right. But, you know, everyone went over. He just told him, I'm going to talk to him.

[Memes]

Right. So James Gladstone, the hire this week, actually 34 years old in Jacksonville. Who's to say what's going to happen if he succeeds and if leaning post Liam Cohen succeeds? How does this do. Do you see this having a giant ripple effect in the NFL front offices? Like, are they going to start hiring young guys now? Because he's a mainly analytical guy, I.

[Dan Katz]

Understand, might have a Jaguars obsession.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, when I heard him talk and you guys met him, I still haven't spoken with him in person. I've texted him, but, like, he's talking about revolution. He uses words that I haven't heard GMs use.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And very new age, very 20, 25. I. I think that if whatever he does works, I. I think it would open up the idea that people would be more open to hiring younger GMs. Just like when Sean McVay came in. He was hired at the age of 31, I believe, and all of a sudden it became acceptable to hire a very young head coach. But there's only so many Sean McVay's. And if James Gladstone succeeds, there aren't that many people that age who can step into a job of that magnitude and handle it as adeptly as he would. If he's succeeding like you're saying he's going to.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, good question. It's like you have one more.

[Adam Schefter]

He's like Doge, but for front office.

[Memes]

Yeah. Two guys rumored to be on the move. Would just love to hear potential landing spots. You could see these guys. Khalil Mack, Debo Samuel, Khalil Mack.

[PFT Commenter]

The Chargers are definitely trying to get back. And the interesting part about that is, I think after everybody saw the success that the Eagles had in the super bowl and with the salary cap taking a bigger jump than people expected, the pass rushers like Josh Sweat, like Khalil Mack, even Milton Williams inside. And I'm going to see if I say his name right, osa. The guy in Dallas.

[Memes]

I was Digazua. OSA Odigazua.

[PFT Commenter]

I got that right, though. I think these guys are going to get more money than people are expecting. And I think the Eagles help make the pass rushers more money in this free age market. The Chargers are going to work to get back Cleo Mack. There's a question about whether they'll be able to keep Joey Bosa. They were in this spot last year. I can't imagine you're going to lose both guys. We'll see how that works out with them. And then Debo, like I said, the one thing I could say on Debo is I think there's been more interest than people thought there would be. And I know that I've seen it out there that the Niners would have to release him because of the cap situation and designate him a June 1st. I don't agree with that. I think they're going to be able to trade them.

[Memes]

Interesting.

[Dan Katz]

Good job. Thanks.

[Adam Schefter]

Cooper Cup.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. Unbelievable. Wide receiver aging older right now.

[Dan Katz]

He's filling time.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no. I could see. I'm trying to think. I want to answer this. Right.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. You're filling time. You know, I could see. Cool name to say. Good beard. Did that Breakfast Club with Matthew Stafford. Really hard worker. Great story.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

White. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Chris.

[Dan Katz]

Very white.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Good at basketball.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. What else can you say about the guy? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He could be on the move. He's gonna be on the move.

[Adam Schefter]

Triple crown again.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Rams are gonna hope to trade them. I think the salary and the numbers are an issue. And I think that's why I'm kind of parsing my words because the question is, is somebody going to trade for that contract? They're going to redo it. What's the contract going to look at? I think there are. There are absolutely teams out there that want Cooper Cup. The question is how much are those teams willing to spend on Cooper Cup.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And, and that's really the issue here right now. He's going to have a new home.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's going to have suitors. He's going to have interest. The question is what is the price going to be?

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, can you just do something to get me and Big Cat excited and just tell us what players are fun transactions. The Bears and the Commanders should find themselves involved in the next week. Like, who are the names that we should be looking at?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Bears offense, definitely offense. So they're going to. I mean they're definitely going to upgrade the offensive line.

[Dan Katz]

Done.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't know who that's going to be just yet, but. But they're going to be upgrading there. The commander is like they're in a spot where they can go strengthen this. They're going to be looking for a pass rusher. They're going to be looking for a wide receiver. I. I think that they'll find a way to add both at some point here. And Jaden Daniels. Wow. I. Wow.

[Adam Schefter]

Special.

[PFT Commenter]

He. He. Let me tell you something so good. He's. And the amazing thing is like, as I always say, people in this business there people get it and people don't get it. Jaden Daniels gets it.

[Adam Schefter]

He gets it.

[PFT Commenter]

He gets it. Like that guy is on it. I. I happened to be around him at the super bowl. Came over, taught like I was really impressed with that guy.

[Adam Schefter]

He gets it special.

[Dan Katz]

He is chef.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft set next 14 to 16 years.

[Adam Schefter]

14 to 16 years. He had one great. The brakes just a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Adam Schefter]

I do love him. I am in love with him.

[PFT Commenter]

I go back to what somebody in that organization told me. It was like 10, 12 games into the season. I go, this quarterback. This quarterback covers up a lot of the sins of the organization.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Like not everybody's at his level and the rest of the team is. Is okay.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

It's a decent holes though.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a decent team. But the quarterback is exceptional and because he's exceptional. Everybody else gets elevated.

[Dan Katz]

Great quarterback. Yeah, right. All right, Shaft, you're the best. Thank you. As always. Wow. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it, huh?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

You had a good year?

[Dan Katz]

We had a good year.

[PFT Commenter]

We had some stuff.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, we had some stuff, but not a lot of problems. And I do want that phone. We need that phone.

[PFT Commenter]

Done. It's on the wall of fame.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

The first wall of fame that I'm ever going to be on a high school wall of fame.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in. Sign me up.

[Dan Katz]

All right. Thanks so much, Chefy.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you, guys.

[Adam Schefter]

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[Dan Katz]

Okay. By the way, Breaking moves NBA Central is back. We did it. We did it. In the time it took, we did it also. You've now listened to the Adam Schefter interview and we have not hired him. But. But he is being considered in name only to be ahead of on top of Jerry O'Connell in the organization chart in name only.

[Adam Schefter]

In terms of just the ability to.

[Dan Katz]

Fire Jerry, Jerry would not have to talk to Adam, which he should if he was smart. He would use him as a resource. So it would be in name only.

[Adam Schefter]

Is he a direct report to Adam Schefter?

[Dan Katz]

I think he would have to direct report. Jerry doesn't realize we having shefty be part of of the organization would be incredible. You. Jerry has no problem texting anyone at any time. He could text.

[Hank]

He wants to deal with the kid. It sounds like.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, yeah, but Chef, but that came out of nowhere.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's not necessarily on the table.

[Dan Katz]

Right?

[Adam Schefter]

The kids aren't involved in this.

[Dan Katz]

Exactly. Okay. Fire fest of the week, Hank.

[Hank]

Not much this week. More of just a follow up from last week. I got. I got. I got got by the toll. Toll scam.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I got.

[Hank]

Which has proceeded to essentially happen nationwide across the country.

[Dan Katz]

I got it texted to me.

[Hank]

I have gotten some of them. Like, it seems like everyone in the world has got to send this text because I've gotten sent, you know, the text from a million people being like, look, I got it too. I got it too. I got it too. A lot of awls being like, I got it too. But some of them are coming from Hotmail accounts, which makes mine look so much worse because it's like, how did you get got by a Hotmail account? Mine was texted from a real phone number.

[Adam Schefter]

At least you got got by a much, much more believable text.

[Dan Katz]

What was the phone number? Because I got the text.

[Hank]

It was kind of a random phone.

[Dan Katz]

I don't. I was. I saw it and I was like, I cannot believe Hank fell for this. It was it was.

[Hank]

It was in the middle. It was like. It was in the middle of the day. I was just kind of like, we had 20 minutes downtime, and I got the text, and I just was like, all right, let me take care of business real quick. It was still bad, but it wasn't a hotmail account. Account. But the amount of people that have gotten texts from hotmail accounts and are hitting me up being like, you idiot. How could you ever get caught by this? It's a tough look.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I got one just the other day from area code +6,3.

[Dan Katz]

Yes, that's where you should have. That was mine as well. Plus six, three. Hank, come on.

[Hank]

But I thought that might have been, like, an automated thing. I don't know.

[Max]

I was getting this for, like. I wasn't here last week when you were talking about it. Oh, I was on vacation. I got. I was getting this for, like, months straight from the same toll thing. And then the weirdest part was at one point, so like, a real person was texting my brother, being like, hey, your. Is your brother this person? I keep getting toll things sent to my house. Please pay now. Like. Or like, this is getting really annoying. Please pay this whole thing now.

[Adam Schefter]

Anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is weird.

[Dan Katz]

That's the.

[Max]

That's the weirdest.

[Dan Katz]

You do it. No, that's crazy.

[Max]

But it was one of those things where I texted Mike. I was like, do you. This isn't legit, right?

[Adam Schefter]

And he was like, no, they're destroying.

[Dan Katz]

Families, break up family.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, they're make turning brother against brother.

[Max]

But, yeah, I don't know how the. The scammer got my brother's contact information and that.

[Dan Katz]

Damn.

[Max]

And he was sending pictures of, like, real letter, like, letters addressed to me from this toll thing.

[Adam Schefter]

That is a. That's a good scam, though. Your brother owes a lot of money. Please tell him to pay.

[Dan Katz]

Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Okay, so wait, so what's your update that you. You still can't believe you got scammed?

[Hank]

My update is I'm a fool for getting scammed. And I. I regret even talking about it because I've gotten hit up non stop for the past week of people basically just being like, I got this text too. You're an idiot.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, you are kind of an idiot.

[Dan Katz]

No, you're a big time idiot.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So it's. Yeah, it's a double fire fest.

[Adam Schefter]

But it's kind of nice having to get your card reset because then all the subscriptions that you.

[Dan Katz]

I need about.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, it cleans it out for you naturally.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

This way, you should never. You should never pay anything.

[Dan Katz]

Right?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, good point, too.

[Max]

If. If anyone ever, like, yells at you for not paying something, you'd be like, oh, I thought it was a scam.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah, my bad. And then when they're like, no, but you actually have to pay. Be like, are you sure? You seem like a scam.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Close out your bar tab. This seems like it's fraudulent.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that's a scam. Okay. Pft.

[Adam Schefter]

I had a pretty good week this week, I would say. My fyre fest is that I have fallen deeply in love with a house that I'm not going to buy. And I'm obsessed with this house. And I can't stop looking at this house and just thinking about it. It's like 60 acres. They call it a hobby farm.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Adam Schefter]

It's got, like, a gym, little basketball hoop. I look at it every single day.

[Hank]

You love farming, so I can understand.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, yeah. Well, no, I. I got.

[Dan Katz]

You have a lot of time to farm.

[Adam Schefter]

I got so deep in this. In this obsession with a house that I'm not going to buy, I. I started to look up what kind of crops grow out here and what I could plant on the farm that I'm not going to purchase. But I'm obsessed with it. I look at the house probably two or three times a day and just think, yeah, that's where my corn would go.

[Max]

You should just know.

[Adam Schefter]

Some snow peas right there. Well, the thing is, when you get a farm, it's not just like, waking up and, like, your cows are happy to see you at the front door. And then you go about your business. You actually have to work, by the way.

[Max]

You just pay someone else.

[Dan Katz]

This farm is in Wisconsin, too.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Max]

How far away is it?

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, it's like an hour and a half away.

[Max]

That's. We'd never see you.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Well, no, we would. No, we would see him. Him the same amount of time. His cows would never see him.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, they would all die.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, like, that's the part. But I don't think PFT would be like, I'm going to farm. See you boys later. He would just buy a farm and be like, farm, I'm never gonna see you.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I even looked up how many chickens I could keep there. I started looking at ducks and goats.

[Dan Katz]

Are chickens, like cats. You can just leave out food for them.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, basically.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

They take care of themselves.

[Max]

I'd have to call you every morning to make sure you left on time.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, no, no, he's talking about having this as being like a second home home. Oh, yeah. Where he again, he would never go to this farm.

[Max]

I thought you were talking about just moving.

[Dan Katz]

No, no, no.

[Adam Schefter]

I would summer at the farm. The cows would be like, where, where have you been? We're all dying. Yeah, we all have bro celosus give us medicine.

[Max]

Yeah, it sounds like a terrible house.

[Adam Schefter]

I even looked up cattle diseases that I should need to be on the lookout for.

[Hank]

Yeah, but Max, it has a basketball court.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, we don't have a basketball court. Pft. Known lover of playing basketball.

[Adam Schefter]

He's got a gym.

[Max]

You also have a gym.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I know, but this is. We don't have a farm.

[Max]

Does it have a lake?

[Adam Schefter]

There's no lake.

[Dan Katz]

That's a good point, Max.

[Adam Schefter]

There's a lake very close by.

[Max]

There's. Yeah, there's a lake very close by to here.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you need a. No, this is like a fishing pond.

[Adam Schefter]

This lake is way closer. It's sad though, because I've been showing everybody this house and everybody is like pumped for me to continue thinking about buying the house that I'm not gonna buy. Except for you guys.

[Hank]

Who has, who has given you positive. You guys are the only ones positive reinforcement about this.

[Adam Schefter]

Who are taking big, big steamy dumps on my day names.

[Dan Katz]

We're not taking dumps on it. It just, it makes no sense. I, I. Listen, the house is sick. You showed me it.

[Adam Schefter]

I think you guys don't believe I can farm.

[Max]

Just get a lake house, right? Just get it right. There's houses on lakes, right?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, right. That would be.

[Max]

You are rich. Where buy a lake house?

[Adam Schefter]

Where are the goat's going to live on a lake?

[Max]

Who cares?

[Dan Katz]

Goats.

[Max]

You have dogs. Your dog is big.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, that. Well, I'd have to get more dogs for the farm.

[Max]

You. Yeah, just get it. Just get dogs at a lake house.

[Hank]

Who has given you positive reinforcement about getting this house?

[Adam Schefter]

Everybody that I've showed to. I've showed it to probably dozens of people.

[Dan Katz]

Name one name.

[Adam Schefter]

My friend Brian.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Okay. And he doesn't have to work with you though.

[Adam Schefter]

No, he doesn't. But he said he.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I would visit the farm.

[Hank]

But was it like, you should do this or was it just like, oh, that's cool.

[Adam Schefter]

He's like, awesome. Yeah, you should get it.

[Max]

Visiting a farm is cool. Visiting a lake is so much cooler.

[Dan Katz]

Yes. And also key word is visiting too.

[Max]

Yeah, no, I would like you to have and you to get a boat as well.

[Adam Schefter]

Again, I'm not going to Buy this farm. But I am obsessed with thinking about buying the farm.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that part I totally understand. I look at Zillow all the time, being like, oh, look at this house in Malibu. Look at this house in Mont. I'm never going to buy any of it.

[Adam Schefter]

Every time you go on vacation, you have to look at. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Doing the fantasy. Fantasizing on Zillow is. Everyone does that. I'm nervous you might actually try to buy it, and then you're going to be like, guys, I made a mistake. I have to move to this farm because every. Every animal's dying.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, I think the farm, like.

[Dan Katz]

Can we do zoom episode? My cows are dying.

[Adam Schefter]

Listen, I just. I want to should indulge in fantasizing about buying this, but I fear this is the why it's about Fire Fest is because I've become obsessed with it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I think this is your answer, by the way, Hank, what would get us to stop podcasting him buying this farm?

[Adam Schefter]

I get a farm.

[Hank]

We bought a farm.

[Adam Schefter]

We bought a zoo.

[Dan Katz]

Think of the fans.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, but I mean, you. So you could do squash. Would lose cucumbers, tomatoes.

[Max]

You could do good content on the farm, though.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, good content.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

What was that. What was that game back in Farmville?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I do real life.

[Max]

Yeah, real life. Farmville.

[Adam Schefter]

I would even. And maybe grow some weed. The possibilities are endless.

[Hank]

These things you can do at your current house.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you could.

[Adam Schefter]

These possibilities, like, no, no, you can't. I can't have animals at my current house.

[Dan Katz]

You have one.

[Adam Schefter]

I have one.

[Dan Katz]

You could have another.

[Adam Schefter]

But you guys are forgetting the goats.

[Dan Katz]

You could get a goat. You have a little backyard. Your goat live out there. All right. My fire Fest. It's a future fire fest. I got a issue you guys can maybe help me with. So my house is stocked with snacks. My. It's always stocked with snacks. I'm a big fruit snacks guy. Love fruit snacks. Pound them. Just. I'll open, like, six of them, make a big pile in my hand, and just eat them.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm Motts over Welch's myself.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So I am as well. So the problem, though, is my wife buys more fruit snacks because the fruit snacks get eaten. I don't think she realizes I'm the only one eating them. And she just bought, like, a week ago a brand I don't like, and it's like the tropical flavor.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

And I haven't eaten any of them. And they're just sitting there and no one's eating them because I don't think she realized that I was the only one eating them, and I'm gonna get found out for being the only one who's eating the fruit snacks. I don't know what to do.

[Adam Schefter]

You got to just bring them to the office and give them away.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, just. Or throw them out.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I just stared at him last night because I was like, oh, I want a snack. And there's probably 50 bags of these fruit snacks sitting there just not being touched because I was the one who was doing the work.

[Adam Schefter]

Put them out for the birds.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And then I got one of those.

[Hank]

Fruit snacks till you have seven. Like, they're.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

Snack. They're not filling at all.

[Dan Katz]

No, listen, if I had opened up my snack closet last night and it was the spongebob fruit snacks, they'd be gone. I would have taken them all down one side. Like, I'll buy a box of 10, and I'll give, like, my kids one to share between the three of them, and I'll eat the rest.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I agree with you. The. The tropical subpar.

[Dan Katz]

Gross.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. So good.

[Dan Katz]

I gotta. I gotta figure out. So I think, yeah, maybe bring him in here because I'm. I'm right on the cusp. It's been about a week where I'm gonna get found out as being the only one who ever eats the fruits. Snacks.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, bring them in, distribute them.

[Dan Katz]

Maybe I'll just put them in my kids bags and just been like, give them to your friends. Yeah, tell them it's Valentine's Day again.

[Adam Schefter]

Or just put them out on your. On your front step and put a sign that says, please take one free fruit snack like it's Halloween.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I'm trying to get more fruit snacks in this house. Okay, let's finish up. We got numbers. Monday show is going to be an awesome show. We got a very Italian show. Nick Sirianni, awesome interview. And Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers. Five means. You ever gotten this? No.

[Max]

I think meme's gonna get it today.

[Dan Katz]

No, Max, there's no way he's getting it today.

[Adam Schefter]

3.

[Dan Katz]

I got a good feeling somebody's gonna get it. I don't. Somebody. Not you. Somebody. I'll go 44. Come on. 3. 55. 21. Hank, what was your number? 5. What was yours?

[Adam Schefter]

He stole my number. I did. 40.

[Max]

Pug texted me last night in the se hall villanova game, trying to rub it in my face that seeing all was going to beat Villanova, and then they never scored again. Oh, they were up 16 and just never scored again.

[Dan Katz]

Pug.

[PFT Commenter]

That first half, though.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, Fire.

[Dan Katz]

It was a hell of a first half. Don't forget.

[Adam Schefter]

40. I'm buying this house.

[Dan Katz]

26. 26.

[Adam Schefter]

Good call.

[Dan Katz]

Memes. Wrong again.

[Adam Schefter]

Memes.

[Dan Katz]

Not only wrong with the number, but wrong saying someone's gonna get it.

[Adam Schefter]

Love you guys.

[Dan Katz]

Wrong two times, Sa.