Booger McFarland, Dana White, Rams End Vikings Season + Guys On Chicks

Summary

Podcast Summary: Pardon My Take – Episode: Booger McFarland, Dana White, Rams End Vikings Season + Guys On Chicks
Release Date: January 15, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter
Guest: Booger McFarland, Dana White

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Introduction

In this action-packed episode of Pardon My Take, hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter delve deep into the latest NFL playoff developments, discuss significant coaching changes, analyze the upcoming college football playoffs, and preview UFC 311 with special guest Dana White. The episode also features interactive segments like Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and Guys On Chicks, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts.

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NFL Playoffs Analysis

Rams Dominate Vikings and Impact on Minnesota's Season

The Los Angeles Rams delivered a crushing performance against the Minnesota Vikings, effectively ending Minnesota's historically peculiar season. With a record of 14 wins and four losses—only to the Lions and Rams—the Vikings find themselves facing significant turmoil.

Big Cat (03:23): "Yeah, the Sam Darnold pumpkin did, in fact, happen. Now, he got sacked a million times."

PFT Commenter (04:20): "If you're Sam Darnold not seeing it, and he couldn't see it last night."

The hosts discuss Sam Darnold's struggles, attributing some of his poor performance to pressure from the Rams' formidable defense. They also touch upon the potential ramifications for the Vikings' coaching staff and future player contracts.

Mike McCarthy's Departure from Cowboys and Potential Bears Tenure

In a significant coaching shake-up, the Dallas Cowboys have officially parted ways with Mike McCarthy. The conversation shifts to the possibility of McCarthy taking over as the head coach for the Chicago Bears.

PFT Commenter (21:20): "He's an asshole and a pussy."

Big Cat (23:22): "Mike McCarthy when he does that really dumb, fat look to the jumbotron."

The hosts humorously speculate on McCarthy's potential interview style with the Bears, poking fun at his personality while acknowledging his coaching prowess. They also discuss the broader implications for the NFL coaching landscape.

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College Football Playoffs

Ohio State vs Notre Dame Showdown

As the college football national championship approaches, Big Cat and PFT Commenter analyze the impending clash between Ohio State and Notre Dame. They unanimously agree that Ohio State holds the edge in talent and execution.

PFT Commenter (85:27): "This is still a two score game."

Big Cat (87:30): "Notre Dame has the ultimate twelfth man. The Lord just call on him."

Despite recognizing Notre Dame's resilience and strong program under Marcus Freeman, the hosts remain confident in Ohio State's superior team dynamics and depth.

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UFC 311 Preview with Dana White

Special guest Dana White joins the show to discuss the upcoming UFC 311 event held at the Intuit Dome in Inglewood, California. The conversation covers:

• Main Events: The highly anticipated fights, including Islam vs. Armen and Murab vs. Umar.
• Venue Insights: The uniqueness of the Intuit Dome and its state-of-the-art facilities.
• Dana's Involvement: White shares his experiences and strategic insights into organizing and promoting UFC events.

Dana White (95:12): "We're going to cruise around and we're going to places. We got Saudi Arabia coming up on February 1st."

The discussion highlights the global reach of UFC and the meticulous planning behind each event to ensure top-tier fight quality.

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Interactive Segments

Hot Seat, Cool Throne

In this segment, the hosts nominate participants who are either under scrutiny (Hot Seat) or lauded (Cool Throne) based on recent performances.

Hank (38:26): "My husband's Elaine Kiffin."

Big Cat (38:30): "Sydney Thomas, the viral ring girl from the Jake Paul fight."

The segment adds a dynamic layer to the podcast, allowing listeners to engage with current sports personalities and their standing within the sports community.

Guys On Chicks

This segment addresses relationship dynamics influenced by sports fandom. Hosts discuss scenarios where sports commitments strain personal relationships.

Hank (116:37): "My fiance doesn't ever make a move on me. And if he does, he says he needs to take a peek at my V, which creeps me out."

The conversation offers humorous yet relatable insights into balancing sports enthusiasm with maintaining healthy relationships.

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Notable Quotes

• Ryan Whitney (03:39): "I love when Troy Aikman gets mad at a team because he gets so disgusted."

• PFT Commenter (55:22): "I think Jaden Daniels is already a top 10 quarterback."

• Dana White (95:21): "We're going back to Miami. We got March, we got London, England, we got Saudi Arabia and Sydney, Australia, back to back."

• Booger McFarland (96:35): "He was a beast. He could play quarterback, running back, wide receiver."

• Dana White (105:26): "I like social media. I'm fascinated by it. I think it is the future of media."

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Conclusion

This episode of Pardon My Take offers a comprehensive analysis of the NFL playoffs, significant coaching changes, and a deep dive into upcoming sports events. With engaging segments and expert guest insights, Big Cat and PFT Commenter deliver a rich and entertaining experience for listeners seeking in-depth sports discussions.

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Transcript

[Ryan Whitney]

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[PFT Commenter]

Not a big deal.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pink Whitney. That's what I thought.

[Big Cat]

See you fellas.

[PFT Commenter]

I invented the thing, you pigeon.

[Ryan Whitney]

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[Big Cat]

Great team. We're not playing those two teams.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, they won five games to start the season, lost to the Lions and Rams, ripped off nine wins, and then lost the Lions and Rams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. But in a way, this it. If you go out like this, it does make it maybe a little bit easier when it comes time to make a decision on Sam Darnold.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, the Sam Darnold pumpkin did, in fact, happen. Now, he got sacked a million times.

[Big Cat]

But some of those were on him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, the Rams defense was incredible. The Rams just overall, like, we, we, we. We were sniffing around it. We're like, what is Sean McVay up to? Yeah, he doesn't care about seating. He had a perfect game plan. The Rams look great. Stafford looked like he was healthy for the first time in a long time. But, yeah, I agree. Some of those were Sam Darnold not seeing it. And I think. I think Troy might have said it. Maybe, or I can't. Maybe it was in week 18. Someone said that, like, the problem with Sam Darnold is he's a. He has to see it to throw it guy. He's not throwing as much, like, anticipation, throwing guys open. And he couldn't see it last night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Troy. There was something up with Troy's voice. Did you notice that?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, it seemed like he was also. He was very, very frustrated.

[Ryan Whitney]

I love when Troy Aikman gets mad at a team because he gets so disgusted.

[Big Cat]

He just hates bad football.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. And he was so mad about them being down 18 and they were running the ball and going slow to the line.

[Big Cat]

That was a problem for me, too. In the third quarter.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're down how many scores they did? Two or three.

[Ryan Whitney]

They were down 18.

[Big Cat]

I believe they were down 18 points. And they're calling, like, three running plays in a row and taking their time, getting in the huddle, getting up to the ball. Like, you. You got to go at this point. And at that, I felt like Kevin Oconnell just knew he wasn't going to win. He's like, it's not in the cards today.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So what's. Really, what's, what's the rush?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So the couple things. Minnesota, we've talked about this before. Minnesota fans listening to this right now, you guys deserve credit for being one of the most cursed sports cities out there. The last time they were in a championship round was 1991 with the Twins. They've had some really, really like, they've. The problem with the Minnesota sports is they're actually like good, but they're never good enough to win and they haven't had a title in whatever it is. Yeah. 30 years and they have all four major teams and the Vikings especially feel like that curse franchise where they have these seasons where they're phenomenal and then they fall flat and everything went wrong for them last night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's like if you built an entire city out of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's what their sports teams have been like. I do feel bad for them.

[Ryan Whitney]

I do too.

[Big Cat]

This is, this is a good team.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And now they have to face some.

[Ryan Whitney]

A lot of.

[Big Cat]

It's not just Sam Darnold. They have a lot of free agents coming up this offseason and you have to figure out what's going on with your coach because he doesn't have a contract. Yes, he's probably going to win coach of the year, as he should. He had a great season, but he's not, he's not locked in for the long term yet.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he, it did feel like the last two games he got. I don't want to. I mean, it just didn't go well. I mean the, the Rams did a lot of what Aaron Glenn did in week 18 defensively and yeah, they, they. I think honestly for like a positive spin zone for Vikings fans. This is as much as it's frustrating because you're a 14 win team and you lose like that in the first round, this might be a long term positive because you are not going to give Sam Donald a long term contract. You might still franchise tag him just because that gives you flexibility. If JJ McCarthy is not all the way ready and you could, you could potentially trade Sam Darnold to a team.

[Big Cat]

That needs him for two first rounders for him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right. So like, I could still see that happening, but in a weird way this is actually a positive where it's like you're not going to give, you're not going to commit to Sam Darnold long term after how this season ended. I also I was talking to a friend of mine who's a Vikings fan last night, and it is crazy to look back. The Minnesota Vikings have a special skill where they make old quarterbacks or quarterbacks on like their fourth or fifth stop really fucking good for a year, and then it just completely vanishes. So going back, Randall Cunningham, when he was 39 years old, this was after he retired. He retired for a year. He had the second best QB rating of his career with the Minnesota Vikings. Jeff George, he was on his fourth team. He. He had his best career QB rating for the Minnesota Vikings. Brett Favre, his. He was 40 years old, and this is crazy. Brett Favre had his best career QB rating with the Minnesota Vikings when he was 40, then turned back to dust. Happened with Case Keenum, his fourth team, best season of his career, best QB rating, turned to dust. And then Sam Darnold again. Best 4th team, best season of his career, best QB rating. It's something about the. And I think really what the answer is. The Vikings are elite at drafting wide receivers and running, so it's a really good place for a quarterback to go. But they've had this in the last 20 years where a quarterback comes in.

[Big Cat]

Josh Dobbs.

[Ryan Whitney]

Josh Dobbs, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, they did leave one out that, that goes against that narrative. What, McNabb?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. McNabb was bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

I remember going to. To. To watch Bears, Vikings, and maybe it was like 2012 and McNabb, it was a Monday Night Football game and he was just throwing the ball into the dirt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was fat. McNabb.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it was bad. But they do have this ability to. To make these quarterbacks on their fourth team or late in their career have career years, and then it's just, poof, they're back to nothing. But now that happened again. But you have J.J. mcCarthy.

[Big Cat]

Look at their free agents coming up right now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Sam Darnold.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Jones.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cam Akers, Byron Murphy. Cam Robinson is a free agent.

[Ryan Whitney]

Good draft for running back. So.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Shaq Griffin and Stefan Gilmore. Okay, so they've got a lot of free agents.

[Ryan Whitney]

They still though they have. I think they have a lot of cap space.

[Big Cat]

73 million.

[Ryan Whitney]

They draft well, they have a good coach and they have J.J. mcCarthy. So I, as much as that was.

[Big Cat]

A painful season and Daniel Jones in that room and so got so bad last night that I honestly wanted to see Daniel Jones.

[Ryan Whitney]

I thought it was maybe going to happen. The like, I saw some people being like, man, if the Vikings had just been bad this year, we would have had A great draft pick and then we would have been loaded with J.J. mcCarthy. I, I still think, like, I mean, the season had to have been fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like, I know it ended poorly, but, like, there's no, you can't root for sport your A team and root for sports and just every year being like, oh, just get a good draft pick. That's not fun for next year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we should be loaded for next year. Also, we don't know how J.J. mcCarthy is going to play in December and January. He can't go outside and touch grass.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Not in Minnesota.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's true. But he, So I, I, I, like, as weirdly as that game went for the Vikings and, you know, I don't want to say they were frauds because they, they were. They do. They won 13 games.

[Big Cat]

The Vikings were. This is not the same Vikings that we saw a couple years ago where they had a negative point differential and they lost in the playoffs to the Giants. I think it's a, it's a different feel to the season. They were a legitimately good team.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Maybe it's just they got, they got, they have two kryptonites. They have the Rams and they have the Lions.

[Ryan Whitney]

The Lions.

[Big Cat]

So if you can get a schedule next season where you don't play the Lions, somehow that would be optimal for the vikings.

[Ryan Whitney]

The Week 17 Vikings celebration after packers win looks a little bit not as fun.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's. You know what? It's also the same thing. Like we talked about this earlier in the season. Teams after they play the Lions suck.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So as long as you don't play the Rams after. Right after you play the line.

[Ryan Whitney]

They did that twice.

[Big Cat]

You had to do it twice. You might be better than the Rams. You just happened to have gotten your ass kicked by the lines.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. And on the flip side, as for the Rams, I'm concerned about my pinky. Max. You should be concerned about this game on Sunday. They looked really fucking good in their defense. We're going to talk about it with Booger more, but their defense is very good. Their pass rush is awesome. What are you thinking?

[Dana White]

It's playoffs. Second round of the playoffs. You're going to play good teams. Rams are a good team. Eagles are a better team.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Got to get, Got to get Jalen hurts out of concussion protocol.

[Dana White]

Jalen hurts will be fine.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

What do you think?

[Dana White]

Better game plan?

[Big Cat]

Oh, better game plan. What do you think about the game plan matchup of Nick Sirianni and Sean McVeigh? Who do you think has the edge.

[Dana White]

Nick Sirianni, better winning percentage.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's true.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Sean McVeigh, he does. I. I was about to say he doesn't get enough credit. He does get a lot of credit.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But I guess I'll just say it's all very well deserved.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Absolutely well deserved.

[Big Cat]

He's a great, great coach.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. And I. So I. I don't know. This is the. This is ties for the. The deepest the pinky team has gotten. I believe the Texans also got to.

[Big Cat]

The divisional round one in the stink.

[Ryan Whitney]

There's some people who are, like, expecting me to cut off my entire finger. I'm not gonna do that. I still don't know legally how we would do it.

[Big Cat]

I would cut the whole thing off.

[Ryan Whitney]

If the Rams win the Super Bowl. No.

[Big Cat]

And I'm just saying, if it were me.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Bet I would be a man about it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm gonna do the. The tip my pinky. I'm. I am officially nervous, though. I don't know what else to say.

[Big Cat]

Well, when you look at the Rams, they've got a great head coach. They've got a quarterback who.

[Ryan Whitney]

If.

[Big Cat]

If we get the Matt Stafford that we got on Monday night, he could win the Super Bowl.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Except for that pass that the Vikings got screwed on. That. That wasn't. That was.

[Hank]

That was a fumble.

[Ryan Whitney]

That was a fumble. He just. You have to.

[Big Cat]

It's like a loophole.

[Ryan Whitney]

You can't just drop it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like, that was it. That was as much of a fumble as a fumble gets you. He dropped the ball.

[Hank]

You know, like the Tuck rule.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That was a loophole.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's a savvy vet.

[Ryan Whitney]

That was a savvy. I said. I said it. Best throw he's ever made.

[Big Cat]

It was a great throw.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he. He had a receiver that was technically in the area.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep. I.

[Big Cat]

We need to. We need to revamp intentional grounding because there's so many times when it's clearly when you throw the ball directly at the feet of your receiver on a screen that you're trying to get rid of, you're not trying to complete the pass there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, it's the only rule in football where they. The refs always have to, like, huddle up and be like, all right, what'd you see? What'd you see? And then every other rule, you just.

[Big Cat]

Throw a flag, and then they. They do the sad, little impotent flag. After they have the conversation, they just take it out of their pocket and just drop it and let gravity do the work.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

At least throw the flag after it. But yeah, we need to think about intentional grounding because there's so many times where you'll see a quarterback just spike the ball on the ground.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And they're like, well, there was a receiver in the area.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So I. I'm. I'm worried about the ramps. I. I do have someone who's actually worse off than me right now. I don't know if you guys saw this floating around. This is from someone. I don't know his full username on Reddit, but he said. Hello, fellow degenerates. As many of you are aware, two months ago, I made a bet that I would chop off my humongous ding dong if Notre Dame Fighting Irish won the college football playoffs. At the time, it seemed like a safe and comical bed as Notre Dame had only played against our nation's troops and we're looking like the next fraud alert. However, due to flawed playoff seating and Carson Beck's weak pussy ass, I found myself in a situation where Notre Dame will be playing for a national championship next week. Placing my dick right on the chopping block. I just want to make it very clear that if Notre Dame wins the national championship, I will firmly stick to my word and receive a professional surgery that will safely remove my penis. The timeline for this, though, will have to be flexible, as I do have to consider my wife, who would like to have at least two children in the event that I have to follow through with my bet. She has agreed to accelerate our family planning so I can get the surgery as soon as possible. I refuse to let my team be cursed. And if it means that I will lose my cock in the process, and so be it. Also, just FYI, I'm banned from CFB memes, so I cannot respond to anything there. I can't believe I'm saying this, but. Go Buckeyes.

[Big Cat]

That rocks. I love that he just threw in. Like, by the way, the. The mods over at R. CFB kicked me off.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Took away my freedom of speech. Fuck them. So I'll post it here.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Because I keep. Because I keep talking about my penis getting cut off.

[Hank]

What about your picky toe?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, well, that fuck up my balance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Do both.

[Ryan Whitney]

Listen, I have no. Remember. Remember when I think it was the Texans year we were in Baton Rouge?

[Hank]

That was never close, though.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I mean, they were. Yeah. But they.

[Hank]

This feels.

[Ryan Whitney]

This feels very real. Let's. Let's win this game.

[Dana White]

Let's Relax.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, I was about to say.

[Hank]

That we all have too much on the Eagles.

[Big Cat]

We're with the Eagles and the Rams. The Rams have the better coach, I think.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The Rams have the better quarterback. I think the Rams strength on their defense is. It's their front four. They were just getting the backfield. I actually think that the Eagles will be able to neutralize that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because your offensive line is so good.

[Ryan Whitney]

I hope so.

[Dana White]

We ran for 300 yards against this team.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Do it again.

[Dana White]

Yeah. Also, if. If Saquon Bar. If Saquon Barkley does what the rest of the NFL wants them to do, Eagles win that game 29 to 10 on Sunday.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's true.

[Dana White]

And.

[Ryan Whitney]

And.

[Dana White]

And it's different. It's a. The scoreboard. Well, I mean, that was a huge fumble thing. Thing yesterday that everyone was talking about was why Saquon went down.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Team player.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe AJ Gets his nose out of the quote book and into the playbook.

[Booger McFarland]

No.

[Dana White]

Did you see that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

Did you see that?

[Ryan Whitney]

They.

[Dana White]

They found another picture of him reading it in a game where he had 100 yards and. And 15.

[Ryan Whitney]

Actually 97 yards.

[Dana White]

All right, semantics.

[Ryan Whitney]

Police telling you it was 97 yards. The. The. Do you remember when we were in the year that the Texans were like, I think they started owing three and then won, like, 10 in a row or something? We're at a tailgate in Baton Rouge, and now we were at a tailgate in Baton Rouge. So this all comes under the idea that we were all hammered. But I talked to a doctor, and I asked him if he could surgically cut off my pinky.

[Big Cat]

A Louisiana doctor.

[Ryan Whitney]

And he was like, legally, no doctor will ever do that. Because you can't just be like, I lost a bet. Cut off my pinky.

[Hank]

Maybe go to, like, Turkey or, like, Tijuana or something.

[Big Cat]

I look at. They do the hair surgeries and also have doctors that will remove fingers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Just take off a digit.

[Big Cat]

How about you just go over Saudi Arabia, get caught stealing.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ah, Gamble.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Chop it right off. Also, I. I did see. I. I forgot to mention this. Phil fan ack on Twitter said Darnold got his screen shaking routes, squiggly as wide receiver, icon showing up as question marks, all that. That's exactly what happened last night. He was playing with the stadium pulse at a million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

And he couldn't see anything.

[Big Cat]

And it sucks that he has the scene ghost clip out there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because I'm sure other quarterbacks have said stuff like that and they've Been miked up when they said it. But he got by espn.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he did.

[Big Cat]

He got double by espn because they also did the out indefinitely mononucleosis graph on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And they did the same. Somebody at ESPN hates Sam Darnold.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And now every time he has these games, which, most quarterbacks will have a game like that where they, they get nervous because they get hit a lot.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's coming from weird directions, but with him, he's seen ghosts.

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Big Cat]

Haley Joel Osmond.

[Ryan Whitney]

What, what happens? Sam Donald. Do you think another team signs him?

[Big Cat]

I, I, I go back to what I said on Sunday night, which is that they should franchise him and then the Steelers should go out there and trade two first round picks for him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Man, that would be bad for the Steelers. I, I also did a poll and, and a lot of Steelers fans were like, tomlin's got to go. That does feel like the vibe.

[Big Cat]

Well, Tomlin might have to go, but if you're Mike Tomlin, I, I almost feel like Tomlin should want to go.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Because, but, but then again, he has the, he's the king of the castle. True. You don't give up the king of the castle.

[Big Cat]

But with, with Tomlin, he has gotten some, like, very mediocre teams and some below average teams to the playoffs.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, right.

[Big Cat]

We can agree on that. That the personnel and the, the offensive scheme especially hasn't always been great in Pittsburgh. So he's like, done more with less. If you're Mike Tomlin, aren't you, like, get me a quarterback. General manager, get me another wide receiver. General manager, get me some offensive line help. That's on the gm. But he, that's not on Mike Tomlin.

[Ryan Whitney]

But he signs off on every single draft pick and every free agent signing, like, literally everything he is, he touches everything in that entire organization. That was because I made that point and people were like, dude, Tomlin, he has full control. No one gets drafted in Pittsburgh without Tomlin. Approved.

[Big Cat]

Without giving a thumbs up.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, but, yeah, but also he's like, very much involved in the draft process.

[Big Cat]

Too, so I think both sides should want. It's better if you go somewhere else.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

I see it as an Andy Reid situation.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like you ran him out of town.

[Dana White]

We did not run him out of town. And I don't, I don't think Steelers fans necessarily would be running Mike Tomlin out of town, but I think sometimes it's good for both parties to, you know, start, Start new.

[Ryan Whitney]

The difference is with Andy Reid, he had, he, they bottomed out. They.

[Dana White]

And true.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right. So like, that's the problem with Tomlin is he's not. He. He can't. He is too good of a coach to ever bottom out. Like, if the Steelers won three games this year, I think the situation is a lot easier.

[Dana White]

Andy Reed also had the never, never can win the big one thing.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

And he had clock management issues, but that was nab.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. It will be interesting. I don't know. So we. So yeah, the Rams are a problem. I'm officially nervous. Max, we need to go to war. I'm going to war side by side with you again. This just might be the situation all. All playoffs. I'm nervous.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

I, I think next week I, I think there's still 22 to 1 to win the. To win the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

I was thinking about betting them and I was like, wait, what am I doing? Why would I want to do that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you don't want to do that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, like. Like, like a hundred thousand dollars doesn't make me happy that I am in this. Also, if people wanted. I did have a bunch of people being like, dude, we don't actually want to see your pinky get chopped off. Um, if anyone had any other ideas, I'm. I'm committed to much like the dick chop off guy.

[Dana White]

You're too early on this.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, but I'm committed to it. I'm committed to it.

[Dana White]

I know, but let's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let's win.

[Dana White]

Let's see what happens this week.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let's win.

[Big Cat]

Don't get nervous until the NFC Championship game. There's a lot of football out there.

[Ryan Whitney]

But Jalen Hurts is concussed.

[Big Cat]

It's true. Do you think that when. When Dan Campbell shook hands with Kevin O'Connell at midfield and said, we'll see in a couple of weeks. Do you think he met Cancun?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, nice. Pf.

[Hank]

Imagine.

[Big Cat]

Was that. Was that the lines.

[Hank]

Imagine if your pinky was riding on Daniels.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, I.

[Ryan Whitney]

Listen, there's. That wouldn't. He's done crazy things like just get it. Get me. Get me late in the game with the.

[PFT Commenter]

With.

[Ryan Whitney]

With a one score game. And I'd be like, yeah, this will work.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Don't give away too much. This is part of my keys to the game.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right. So the other big news we had was the Cowboys are officially moving on from Mike McCarthy. Really kind of him.

[Big Cat]

Jerry Jones is a dick.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's an. He. He. He blocked him from doing interviews.

[Big Cat]

He's also a. He's a dick. An asshole. And A pussy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's crazy. So I, I thought he was gonna stay because they were blocking him, but clearly that's not the case.

[Hank]

There was also. Did you see the reports that Belichick, like, that was a place Belichick would have been interested in, but he had done some like, back channeling and they said, like, the job wasn't opening up like when he was, you know, considering unc.

[Ryan Whitney]

So Jerry Jones is just going off like day to day vibes or he.

[Big Cat]

Was waiting until Monday Night Football of wild card weekend. As Mike Florio told us, he likes to drop this type of fact during a time when the spotlights on the NFL.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And so he might have just waited to do the news dump on the Monday night. The opposite of the news dump could get the most attention, in which case it's a world class move. And now Mike McCarthy. I'm assuming that he's going to get an interview like tomorrow with. I think he already is with like three teams.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So I've thought long and hard about it. I've made a list of spin zones, reasons why Mike McCarthy will be fine if he ends up being the Bears head coach.

[Hank]

Walls are talking.

[Ryan Whitney]

The walls are talking.

[Big Cat]

What are the walls saying?

[Ryan Whitney]

The walls of John Deal. Which wall? The same walls that said Christian McCaffrey will never take another snap again.

[Hank]

Different wall, though.

[Ryan Whitney]

But.

[Hank]

But same walls. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, so here's my. Here's my list. You guys can. You guys can tell me. I just want to say, first of all, I don't even remember ever saying anything bad about Mike McCarthy. So, like, I was thinking about it, like, the interview. If he becomes a Bears head coach that we do with him won't even be that funny. Like, I can't remember saying anything bad about Mike McCarthy. So here's my. Here's my.

[Big Cat]

He looks intelligent.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You've always said that he looks svelte.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you've always said that he looks skinny and smart.

[Ryan Whitney]

To my knowledge, I've never said it. All right, so here's my spin zones when we do the eventual interview with Mike McCarthy. Bears head coach Mike McCarthy is so grotesquely fat that I'll actually look skinny next to him.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It's true.

[Ryan Whitney]

Does that feel right?

[Hank]

That feels mean.

[Ryan Whitney]

I've never said anything mean about Mike McCarthy.

[Big Cat]

Well, you just said grotesquely fat.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah. His clock management can't get worse than eber flu says.

[Big Cat]

That is probably true, but we don't know because we haven't seen. We never saw eber flutes play in Very important game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. True analytics. He's got the pro football. What are you looking up? You're looking up all the Mike McCarthy tweets. He's.

[Dana White]

Every time.

[Booger McFarland]

Again.

[Ryan Whitney]

I've never said anything bad about him.

[Big Cat]

He's got all the computer guys.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's got all the computer guys. He's got a PFF subscription. Listen, how about. How about this? Mike McCarthy when he does that really dumb, fat look to the jumbotron. One, there's no jumbotron in Soldier Field. Two, I feel like that's kind of. Kind of relatable. Like I look stupid when I'm confused and have that. Like, oh, God, I wish I could change this. So Mike McCarthy, he's a relatable head coach. Not many out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he. He hates fruit so much that he smashes it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, right, Exactly. I have that on there. I have. He's not from Chicago, but that doesn't mean you can't love the Bears. Right? Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Ryan Whitney]

He will maybe smash a watermelon. I would love to smash a watermelon with Mike McCarthy.

[Hank]

I think that's got to be your. Like when he signs video smashing the watermelon.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like you should get that on deck.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. He knows how to beat the Packers.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Ryan Whitney]

Sometimes that was his own team that he was beating. But he does know how to beat the Packers. He's 174 and 112 all time as a coach and he has a Super Bowl. I'm talking myself. I. I'm just trying to get ahead of it because I feel like this.

[Big Cat]

Is going to happen. He knows how to beat the Packers. Would you also say that he knows how to beat the Bears?

[Ryan Whitney]

He does know how to beat the Bears, but that. Was he an Aaron Rodgers merchant. That hurts me. Actually means you want Mike McCarthy. Oh, yeah. I would take him in a second. Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He.

[Ryan Whitney]

Three straight seasons of 12 and 5. The jets haven't had a winning record in 10 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You reunite him with Aaron Rodgers.

[Ryan Whitney]

10, 20, 15 was the last winning season and we didn't make the playoffs. Oh. I said I don't think Mike McCarthy is capable of a non embarrassing loss. It's either win the super bowl or something hilariously dumb will happen. No, in between.

[Big Cat]

That's not that.

[Hank]

That's good for us. That's good for the show.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Good for the show. Yeah. We're going spin zones here. These are all spin zones.

[Big Cat]

He just. He looks like a Chicago guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he's a Pittsburgh. It's The Pittsburgh is the dick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pittsburgh connection. Yeah. The. I. I don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you remember when they had him on Nickelodeon?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Painted his face and made him look all. All angry.

[Ryan Whitney]

I told you. Big fat Dumb Mike McCarthy season has arrived. See? All right, so maybe I've said some things about Mike McCarthy. This would be a very funny interview.

[Big Cat]

It seems like this might be some self loathing too, because a lot of the criticisms you have about Mike McCarthy apply directly to coach Doug's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah. Bad clock management.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Grotesquely fat. I think it's gonna happen, though. I think the Saints. Though he was an assistant on the Saints.

[Big Cat]

I would personally rather live in New Orleans.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Not that I hate Chicago. It's just New Orleans is the best city on planet Earth.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't know if I'd want to live in New Orleans. Oh, I would. I'd like to visit New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

I would love to live.

[Ryan Whitney]

Visiting New Orleans is great. What?

[Dana White]

There's a good one in 2020.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just finished taping PMT. Great show coming. And we've done the impossible. We've talked ourselves into liking Mike McCarthy. What was that? Context. After what? After what game? Who knows?

[Dana White]

Memes is looking. This one. This one wasn't as good.

[Ryan Whitney]

They could definitely win the Super Bowl. I'm talking about the Cowboys, but just remember that big. Oh, no, this is about the Packers. Oh, no, this is Cowboys. But just remember that big fat face of Mike McCarthy during crunch time. That will keep you grounded.

[Hank]

They beat the Texans 3520 on October.

[Big Cat]

25, 2020. Who could forget?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That storied rivalry.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, so, memes, you take them. Sure. Okay. Because right now, I. Who is in the lead right now for the Jets? Headcut.

[Big Cat]

Rex Ryan.

[Ryan Whitney]

Now, Rex Ryan was ruled out. Oh, he was officially. Oh, you should have let him. You should have strung him along so he could have done more Countdown, you know, stuff. Oh, it was the Mike McCarthy. Maybe when he did the swag dance. That was pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

They should just not tell Rex Ryan. And so then as the season progresses, Rex is always like, well, maybe they'll fire him this week. Yeah, they might come to me. Yeah, it could still be mine.

[Ryan Whitney]

So if Mike McCarthy goes to the Bears, a lot of people are thinking Aaron Glenn might go to the Saints.

[Big Cat]

Which might leave the jets with Matt.

[Ryan Whitney]

Nagy or Arthur Smith, two friends of the show. Yeah, that's great. And this is Ben Johnson going to the Raiders under this assumption.

[Big Cat]

Yep. I actually think that Mike McCarthy would be a good coach for the Bears. I think it could be way Way worse.

[Ryan Whitney]

I've talked. I've talked myself.

[Big Cat]

You not want Ron Rivera, like, if you. No, I understand why the McCaskey family is attracted to the idea of Ron Rivera for history in terms of a football coach.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't think he's a serious candidate.

[Big Cat]

You could not make a worse decision.

[Ryan Whitney]

I want Ben Johnson or Todd Monkins. Those are the two. But I. Yeah, the walls have. Have made me very nervous with how this is. Seems to be going forward. All right, anything else for. Oh, Deion Sanders talked to Jerry Jones, which would be very funny.

[Big Cat]

That's what I want.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, if you're a fan of the NFL and just following the Cowboys being just insane, you want Deion Sanders.

[Ryan Whitney]

I also want it because it would be very funny if it was the Cowboys trade Dak to Cleveland. Cleveland has Dak and DeShawn and then they trade their first pick and then Dion takes Shador or Travis Hunter and then coaches the Cowboys.

[Big Cat]

So if you're Dion, you would want to coach your son. You don't want to like go to the NFL for the first time as a head coach and then immediately have another team draft yourself son. Yeah, I imagine that there's. He's going to want Shador.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I would imagine. I want Travis Hunter more.

[Big Cat]

Also with Dak. He does have a no trade club. Ah, so that would.

[Ryan Whitney]

You don't think he'd do it. He'd wave it for Cleveland.

[Big Cat]

Cleveland, I mean, they got everything else.

[Ryan Whitney]

Listen, Deshaun Watson having another Achilles injury is a great thing for the Browns. I was talking to Zupy about it. One of our coworkers is a Browns fan. Like, you don't want him playing anymore. Just. Just be done. Like if Russell Wilson taught us anything, just like get off, get on with your mistake.

[Big Cat]

You also don't want him using your team issued rehab staff.

[Ryan Whitney]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

And that's another year of that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just stay away. Like start moving on. There's no. There's no reason to pretend this going to be anything different. Like, Deshaun Watson's not going to come back from double Achilles surgery.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

And horrendous last four years and all of a sudden be DeShawn Watson from the Texans. Yeah. He's just not. So it's actually almost better. Like it's taking the choice out where it's like we're just going to move on from this.

[Big Cat]

He wasn't even Sean Watson from the Texans right after he was off the Texans.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Big Cat]

He was. He's been bad from the get go.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. All Right. So, yeah. Any other cleanup from this week? Oh, Max, would you like to disavow the Philly fan?

[Dana White]

Complete disavow. That guy was a huge asshole, but Big Dom is already taking care of it, so we're good.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So for people who missed it, there was a viral video of a Packers fan basically getting verbally harassed by a Eagles fan. It was bad. Verbally bad. Verbally harassed. Like, shitty, shitty stuff. And then that guy has been doxed, I believe, and he's been banned from the Eagle. And Big Dom has contacted the woman, the packers fan, and hooked him up with the care package. Big Dom saved the day.

[Dana White]

Yeah, Big Dom saved the day because there was worries that that guy was going to be karma for all of Philadelphia. But now we. Philadelphia has removed themselves and that guy from. From the situation. That's a bad guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Doesn't.

[Dana White]

Is not affiliated with anything. Philadelphia Eagles love that.

[Big Cat]

I like that. Take a. Take a strong stand against it. And then after they doxed him, some of the reports were like, this guy had a daughter, and he was married to a woman. How could he say these things?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

Like, you have to have a daughter to know. To not call woman a. Yeah, but he clearly. Max, I'm not so sure that this completely removes the stink and the curse. Like, this is. It's a bad look for Philadelphia. I understand. He does not represent Philadelphia. And you guys have taken all necessary steps up to this point to get. Get this guy out of the picture, which I appreciate. I got Big Dom.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I have an idea, too.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, you go.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So my good friend the Beave from Hard Factor, he sent me the official NFL fan rehabilitation quiz.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

This is what fans have to do to get invited back to the stadium if they get kicked out for fighting, for puking, if there's, like, a kid behind them, hypothetically, that they turn around and. And they put their hand down their throat and they make themselves throw up on that kid.

[Ryan Whitney]

You're just talking all Philly stories City.

[Big Cat]

In order to get back into the stadium, they have to do an official fan rehabilitation quiz to make sure that they're ready. I think you should take this quiz.

[Dana White]

I'll take the quiz.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right. Do we have it right now?

[Big Cat]

I. I have it. I think it's probably too long to do on the show.

[Ryan Whitney]

Can we find one or two questions?

[Big Cat]

I was thinking for. For. We do.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, we're going to do it for pmtv.

[Big Cat]

This.

[Dana White]

Perfect. Do it for pmtv.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, so tune into pmtv. Max, take the quiz. I had another one. I was just going to say, you know, we have awls who. Listen. Who are fans of all teams. Maybe you should just take a Packer fan out to dinner.

[Dana White]

We gave that Packer fan a care package.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, Maybe give. You know what? Actually follow what.

[Dana White]

No, I'll take scumbag Jack McCarthy out.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, no, no. Not Jack McCarthy. Buy. Buy one random awl. Packer fan lunch. You don't have. You have to take them out. Deal. Just have to, like, they'll tweet at you. You. You just say, hey, you know, tell me where. Tell me where the food's going. Boom, done deal.

[Dana White]

Or if you just want to, like, send me a receipt, I'll Venmo you for what's going on.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

You said you do the class.

[Dana White]

Yeah, I said. I said I thought it was a test.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's test.

[Big Cat]

It's a.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's a class and test.

[Dana White]

You said test is different than a class.

[Big Cat]

You need a class.

[Dana White]

I'm not taking a class.

[Ryan Whitney]

Four hour online class.

[Dana White]

Four hours.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's what he just showed me.

[Big Cat]

And it's. And it specifies the NFL stadium. Like, there's a Philadelphia class.

[Dana White]

I'll do that.

[Big Cat]

Okay, here's four hours includes. What is.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's.

[Dana White]

That's my whole. That's my whole day tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

What is disruptive fan behavior? Review of the stadium alcohol policy. Education on stadium safety skills in gameday. Empathy skills and improving game day communication skills in game day stress management. Actually, you could use all these things. Game day drinking can be dangerous. That's one of the modules.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I think you should take this. This class I'll do.

[Dana White]

I'll take the class. I'll take the class. And. And that removes all stink from this guy.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, and the lunch. In the lunch and.

[Dana White]

Yes, and. And someone send me their receipt for lunch. I'll Venmo. I'll Venmo.

[Big Cat]

Love that receipt for lunch. I need you to. I need you to be curse free through these playoffs.

[Ryan Whitney]

I need you to be curse free, especially this weekend.

[Dana White]

Yeah, no, I'm gonna. I'll take the class. I'll Venmo a Packer fan for lunch.

[Ryan Whitney]

Fuck yes. Okay, this is good. We need to get all the stink off.

[Dana White]

It's crazy.

[Ryan Whitney]

All the stink off.

[Big Cat]

You better pass it.

[Ryan Whitney]

You also should. You know what? He also.

[Dana White]

You're not gonna pass the passing. I feel like I gotta study the passing. I'm not promised.

[Big Cat]

Gets you a certificate and everything I play.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think also on the pmtv. You should go. You should go around the office and compliment all the women in the office in a. In a natural, like, way. That is nice. That's not uncomfortable. Just give him a compliment. We gotta. We gotta just get the karma going in the right direction here.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait to hear Max's non sexual compliments that he gives.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Dana White]

No one said sexual except for you.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, that's true. You said, like, put on the bonk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Dana White]

Like, inappropriate list.

[Big Cat]

You're gonna go out of your way to be like, you're. I like. I like your shoes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Hey, how is the bunk list going?

[Hank]

That will be the first mission.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Okay. Nice.

[Big Cat]

What's saying non sexual. It's a bonk now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, did that woman.

[Hank]

That was. That was like you assuming that talking to a woman is going to be sexual?

[Ryan Whitney]

No. Yeah.

[Dana White]

I could compliment them on their work.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I would say, like, you're Mike Pence.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was saying that. That Max was going to go out of his way to make sure it wasn't crazy, creepy or weird.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Compliment.

[Ryan Whitney]

But Which I do.

[Dana White]

But by you assuming that made it creepy or weird.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Dana White]

Because.

[Big Cat]

But fact or fiction, you would be going out of your way to be like, what's the least weird thing? I can compliment you.

[Dana White]

I. I mean, we were. This is an office. I can compliment them on their work.

[Ryan Whitney]

Can you? We haven't seen it. Yeah. All right. Get this going in the right direction. Good job. All right, should we do Hot Seat, Cool Throne and then get to our interviews? Okay, let's get to Hot Seat, Cool Throne. I mentioned on Monday's show we have a new sponsor. Doritos. Our favorite chips ever. Awesome that Doritos is on board with pmt. We got something special. They're running a contest for the super bowl and we're going to watch a Doritos commercial. Commercial and react to it. And the first one up is called Abduction. So hit it, Max.

[Dana White]

Aliens.

[Ryan Whitney]

UFO Detective.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

Doritos. Yeah, I like that. Like it.

[Big Cat]

Haven't had a good alien movie in a while.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So that was a very cool ad because aliens. I think if aliens came down to earth right now, the first thing they'd want is Doritos.

[Booger McFarland]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

If they saw that Doritos chip that we have in our trophy case, the perfectly seasoned Cool Ranch Dorito, you would. You would travel across the galaxy for that.

[Ryan Whitney]

So with Patrick Holmes help. Doritos just revealed the top three ads that are still in the running to win the Doritos crash the Super Bowl. We're going to watch all three during this show. Now it is up to the people to choose which creator will win $1 million and have their submission run as Doritos 25th Super Bowl AD by voting for their favorite fan made ad@doritos crash.com now until January 28th, fans can visit Doritos crash.com and cast their vote for who they think is the winning ad. Will it be abduction? We're going to watch barbershop and charades after this, so vote for the next super bowl ad@doritos crash.com Doritos crash.com Thank you, Doritos. I'm going to need some Doritos after the show. Hank. Hot seat, Cool throne.

[Hank]

My husband's Elaine Kiffin.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Sydney Thomas, the viral ring girl from the Jake Paul fight.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't know who that is.

[Big Cat]

She was a.

[Hank]

She was the ring girl in the Jake Paul.

[Big Cat]

She was a lady. That was.

[Ryan Whitney]

I obviously. I obviously know. I know who it is, guys. I follow her on all our socials. Your mic is on. Damn. That was way too much of a laugh. She seems like a very nice young woman.

[Hank]

And she was doing an interview and she said that an SEC coach actually slid in her dms. And then I think one of her, you know, everyone kind of assumed it was Lane Kiffin. And then one of her friends just, like, straight up posted the Snapchat showing the DM. Oh, he just DM'd her RTR.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, because. No, but was that after? Because then she golfed with. She golfed with Nick Saban.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

So I think he DM'd her roll tide role after she golf with Nick Saban.

[Hank]

I do not believe that's a timeline. You could be correct. But I think she golf a statement on Monday.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right. And that's when Lane, quote, tweeted the picture and said Lane, quote, tweeted the picture of her golfing with Saban being like, looks like mystery solved. Yeah.

[Hank]

He was trying to. He was making a joke. Like, it was the same.

[Ryan Whitney]

Why would he. Why would he Snapchat her rtr?

[Hank]

No rtr.

[Ryan Whitney]

One of her. She went to Alabama.

[Hank]

One of friends took a screen, like a picture of her of the DM message.

[Ryan Whitney]

Got it.

[Hank]

So, like, the DM got leaked via her friend's Snapchat.

[Ryan Whitney]

I was.

[Hank]

How I interpreted it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I was confused why he would DM rtr, but she went to Alabama. I forgot that part.

[Hank]

Right.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, why did everybody think it was Lane Kiffin? I don't understand. I was thinking maybe Mark Stoops Sam.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pittman was my first thought.

[Big Cat]

Sam Pittman. A lot of disrespect to Shane.

[Ryan Whitney]

Chest size.

[Big Cat]

Shane Beamer not being tossed in the equation.

[Ryan Whitney]

Shane Beamer. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Billy Napier could have been Billy.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

There's a lot of.

[Big Cat]

Brian Kelly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Brian Kelly. That would.

[Booger McFarland]

Brian.

[Ryan Whitney]

We haven't talked enough about how bad of a time Brian Kelly's having. Not only did LSU not make a 12 team playoff and last year was not great, but he now has Notre Dame, the team he left where he said, you can't win a national title here. Playing for the national title in the first 12 team playoff.

[Big Cat]

Right, right. This is. This is a tough time of year for him.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, so Lane Kiff is on the hot seat. Are we.

[Big Cat]

Are we not thinking Hugh Freeze? Hugh Freeze is a sneaky dark.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But he shouldn't be.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. That would have been from a burner, though, so you probably couldn't track it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's. I think Hugh Freeze might be the horniest coach in football.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah, I would. Yeah. Or link if he DM'd.

[Hank]

I mean, if you're an old Mist fan, you want, you know, you want your head coach being like Roll Tide, Roll.

[Big Cat]

No, you want more interest in Ole Miss than you. Than young misses.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. I mean, it is off season.

[Hank]

I'm putting him on the horse.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

I think it might be a.

[Hank]

He also has a girlfriend, doesn't he? I guess.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't know.

[Hank]

I don't think. I don't think.

[Ryan Whitney]

I have no idea.

[Big Cat]

Friendly jab.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

I think he was trying to move in silence. Should we spot blown up.

[Ryan Whitney]

Should we? Should we? Next person to get the lottery ball has to DM Sydney Thomas. Just say awl question mark. Oh, Hank. Oh, Hank. You just sign up. You just do it.

[Hank]

I'll win the lottery ball. I mean, it won't be memes. My cool throw is Leangel Ball talked about it last week. I think he's my cool throne. And then yesterday he signed a 13 million dollar contract with DEF Jam and Universal Music.

[Big Cat]

Good for him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Hank]

$8 million guaranteed. Retains full ownership of his music and record label.

[Ryan Whitney]

No one has been more right than Lavar Ball.

[Hank]

No.

[Ryan Whitney]

His sons became stars. Like they made millions and millions of dollars. Two of them play in the is.

[Hank]

On $100 million deal. Lamello's on a 200 million dollar deal. And LiAngelo just signed a 13 million dollar rapper deal.

[Big Cat]

And it's a good song.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

And he's got more. There was another. There was like. There Was a. What's his name? Matthias. Yeah, he put out, like, a Instagram story after a win last week where they were playing a new song.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah. Because the Bulls get the. They get all the leaks.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

The Bulls and the Hornets probably have the swaggiest locker rooms because they get all the direct. Direct.

[Hank]

But it's like, that is like the number one. Like, our team just won. Like, we're putting on that. That jello first.

[Ryan Whitney]

Good for him. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm happy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Okay. Good job, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Thanks. My hot seat is China.

[Ryan Whitney]

China.

[Big Cat]

China's on the hot seat. Oh, because they're gonna try to ban TikTok again. They're having that conversation right now. But good news at least, I guess, if you're a fan of China. There's a new app that people are signing up for in the theory that Tick Tock is about to get banned in the United States, and it's called Red Note. And Red Note is, like, more Chinese than Tick Tock.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You're getting even more of your information than Tick Tock is.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But it's not banned yet.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So China just has an endless stream of spy apps that they're going to be releasing. Every time one gets shut down, there's another one to replace it. So I don't actually know what Red Note does, but I've heard that it's like all the bad stuff about TikTok, but way worse.

[Ryan Whitney]

So TikTok is getting. I've obviously seen that this has been floating around, but why? Just because China owns it.

[Big Cat]

China kind of owns the company. If you're a company in China that's that big, the government Communist Party owns.

[Ryan Whitney]

And they don't want. All right, that makes sense. They don't want us using that app because you're stealing all of our information.

[Big Cat]

It's in everybody's phone.

[Hank]

Yeah, but then Americans reaction to this was just to download a more Chinese owned app.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're not the smartest artist. No.

[Big Cat]

So part of it was like, oh, if. If Tick Tock's great and it's a little bit Chinese, why don't I just get like a super Chinese app?

[Ryan Whitney]

Who's gonna buy Tick Tock? I saw Elon was maybe rumored.

[Big Cat]

So the.

[Hank]

The thing is, it's like 50 billion.

[Big Cat]

They want. They want to sell it. The government. The US Government wants them to sell it to a company that has, like, controlling interest in the United States.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Or at least at the very least, not in China. But the Chinese government does not want to sell that app. Makes sense to the United States because then we get the algorithm that they had.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Big Cat]

So it's like China would rather hang and lose all the business in the U.S. then sell it to the U.S. got it. So Elon can offer a bunch of money for it, but I don't think China's going to sell it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Also, Elon, probably it would be stupid to off money for because if people are not on Tik Tok, they have to go back to Instagram and Twitter.

[Big Cat]

Also, Elon doesn't need to buy Tik Tok. He's already got X. Yeah. The Everything app.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[Dana White]

Could be like a Facebook Instagram situation. Like Zuckerberg had Facebook and then bought it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Bought Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like Zuckerberg's new look. Bothers me. Yeah. Go back to the hoodie and the bad hair.

[Big Cat]

Are you intimidated because he's a man, an active man who participates in martial combat?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Instead of watching it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I am. It's. It's lame to. To. To be a guy watching sports.

[Big Cat]

Watch sports. I was shocked that a billionaire is going to change his political leanings depending on who's in office.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. As the wind blows.

[Big Cat]

That's wild.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Never saw that one coming.

[Big Cat]

My cool throne is Russell Wilson.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Because Russell Wilson says that he is open to returning. He hopes to return to the Pittsburgh Steelers next year.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Maybe run it back.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Your good friend Jersey Jerry was. He was sad last night online because it hit him for the first time. That might be the last time he gets to say, you just got rusty.

[Ryan Whitney]

You just got rusty.

[Big Cat]

You got rustied. But I don't think it is. I think that he. He wants to come back. And Pittsburgh, I don't know what their plan is going to be for quarterback. I don't know that they have a plan right now, but we might get to see Russell Wilson again.

[Ryan Whitney]

I would like to say that I'm open to winning the lottery.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Same.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hank's open to going on a date with Sidney Thomas. That's. These are all things that we're open to. So. Russ, good job.

[Big Cat]

Do you think he DM the Steelers?

[Ryan Whitney]

You up? Hey. Yeah. I mean, is he gonna remember when she was shelter? Was like, yeah, Russell Wilson takes a team friendly deal. It's like, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's not team friendly when that's the only deal you could get.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's the quarterback of the future.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't think the Steelers should. They gotta find something else. Yeah. Do something else.

[Big Cat]

Just anything.

[Ryan Whitney]

In a weird way that sucked for them. That Sam Darnold sucked. Because I think those. If you're a Steelers fan, you were hoping the same Donald was awesome and then you could trade for J.J. mcCarthy.

[Big Cat]

Well, then Kevin O'Connell was saying, like, if you look at the body of work with Sam Darnold, he's been a great quarterback. It depends on how big of a scope you're using.

[Ryan Whitney]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

On the body of work.

[Ryan Whitney]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Like, what was the blip?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Were these four games against those two teams, was that the blip, or were the other, what, 14 games this season, Was that the blip in Sam Darnold's career?

[Ryan Whitney]

It's the Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones had that one year where everything worked out and they went to the playoffs, and then they paid him for that year, not realizing that that was the anomaly year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is anyone who doesn't understand this whole 4k thing on Twitter or X. Sorry, the Everything app.

[Hank]

I muted the word 4K.

[Ryan Whitney]

Could you imagine if you didn't understand what that is?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I understand exactly what is. But I was talking to Max beforehand, and Max didn't know what it was.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So, Hank, do you want to tell.

[Hank]

Max what it is that's tough for Max, as Max. Max has a video editing and production background, so he. If anyone's gonna understand it, it should be Max.

[Ryan Whitney]

So, Max, you probably understand it better than anyone.

[Hank]

It's essentially, it's. This is how I describe it. Because you guys are old.

[Ryan Whitney]

No.

[Hank]

Remember.

[Ryan Whitney]

No.

[Hank]

You remember when games were in SD and then you had the SD option? You could switch to hd.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And it was a little crispier.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[Hank]

So that's what they're saying. They're basically saying, hold and look at this image and it's going to be clear in 4K.

[Ryan Whitney]

Is it work?

[Hank]

Kind. It's. I kind of. I think. But I also think there's a lot of accounts that are just hopping on the bandwagon, because there's some I've seen that have no difference.

[Big Cat]

I saw one that was like, you can see every pebble on this road and 4K.

[Hank]

But there's some images that just aren't. Like, they don't have the 4k potential.

[Big Cat]

It's 4k. Like, magic eye. If you stare at 4k for long enough, like a giraffe pops out.

[Hank]

No, it's just. It's just better resolution. But, like, if I have a shitty.

[Big Cat]

Picture of you, it doesn't exist.

[Hank]

And I choose, you know, look at this in 4k. It's still gonna Be whatever resolution that I shot it in.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So you can just lie and say this isn't.

[Hank]

That's what people. That's what a lot of people are doing.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Got it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Huh. Okay, so it sounds like I get in on something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it sounds like I got to say, like the picture of the NFL football that I like to post. Just if you zoom in on this picture of the NFL football, what do.

[Ryan Whitney]

You actually say when you tweet other footballs? You say, hold for 4K.

[Hank]

I think it's like, select, select view.

[Ryan Whitney]

In 4K means what do you say? What do you say when you do it means you've done it. Tap, comma, hold and load in 4K. Hold and load in 4K.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Okay.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm doing one live right now. People can look back at. Okay. So that was my hot seat. That again, I knew, but it sounds like a lot of people didn't know. So happy that we cleared it up for all the people didn't know. My cool throne is Giante Porter because he actually wasn't just telling his friends to bet his props and betting his own props, but he was texting them during the game with updates of how the game was going. And I don't know, I know this would probably be opposite. It would probably be more hot seat because it's like the most open and shut case of all time. But I just think it's funny because they have the text messages. And here's one from a game in January 2024. He said, I went back to locker room to get. I checked on. I don't know if I'm gonna play much more. I'm not starting second half. But if it's garbage time, I will shoot a million shots. I love that one. If I. If it's garbage time, I will shoot a million shots. Giante Porter. And like everyone who plays pick up hoops and their team goes down and they're just like, fuck it, let's just start chucking.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so I'm confused. Was he telling his friends to bet the under. He's like, I'm not going back in, but if I do get back in, I'm going to shoot a lot.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's kind of confusing because yeah.

[Big Cat]

That'S actually a point in his favor.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, true. Be like, I gave him. I gave him both sides the information there.

[Big Cat]

Maybe it was just his, like, psychologist and he was texting him like, hey, here's where my mind's at right now.

[Ryan Whitney]

If it's garbage time, I'll shoot a Million shots. Yeah, Love that. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Booger McFarland, we've got Dana White, and we also have another commercial from Doritos. So we said it a few minutes ago, but Doritos is revealing the top three ads that are still in the running to win the Doritos crash the super bowl contest. Now it's up to the people to choose which creator will win 1 million and have their submission run as Doritos 25th Super bowl ad by voting for their favorite fan made ad@doritos crash.com now until January 28th, fans can visit doritoscrash.com and cast their vote for who they think is the winning ad. Will it be abduction, barbershop, or charades? We're going to watch barbershop right now. So let's see it. Max.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, what can I say? I'm a bit of Casanova myself.

[Ryan Whitney]

Nothing strangers.

[PFT Commenter]

I still got it. And you won't believe I had the hair. And boy, did I have hair. I was like the black barber.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ooh.

[PFT Commenter]

Man.

[Ryan Whitney]

What? That was awesome.

[Big Cat]

I thought he's gonna bite it off.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that was a great ad. So you could vote abduction, barbershop or charades, which we'll watch in a minute. Vote now for the next super bowl [e-mail] Here is Booger McFarland. Okay. We now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. It is Booger McFarland. We're gonna talk some football. We're gonna talk some NFL. We're gon national championship. Boog, thank you for joining us. I want to start with the best game out there left and maybe we'll talk a little recap of the weekend. But Bill's Ravens. This is why we watch sportsbook. We had a whole rant about it on Monday. This is why we lift them weights. This is why we eat the donuts. This is why we do everything. Bill's Ravens. What do you see in this game? And I mean, like, you take it whichever direction you want because I'm so excited to watch this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, a couple of things. I highly doubt anyone playing in this game is going to eat donuts. That's number one. But I like how you try to get people on your side, though. Yeah. Second. Yeah, man. Like the first thing I go back to is when they met in week four. And first play the game, Derek Henry goes 87 yards. So this game, my initial thought comes down to whether or not Buffalo can stop the Baltimore running game. I Mean they rushed for over 200 yards that game. And if you not to get in the weeds too much, but Buffalo's defense likes to play nickel defense. That means two linebackers and a nickelback and Johnson, number seven is that nickelback. Well, what does that mean? That means that Nickelback, who's 190 pounds has got to be the one to fill in those run gaps and tackle Derrick Henry. How many times would PFT be willing to tackle me? Like ultimately that's what it comes down to because Johnson has got to tackle Derrick Henry probably six or seven times during the game. And I just don't know if he can do that. So I want to see what is Buffalo's adjustment going to be because they can't allow Johnson to tackle Derrick Henry over and over. On the flip side, Josh Allen is playing at an all time high level. If you're Baltimore, how do you affect Josh Allen? We saw Denver try to get after him and rush him a little bit. They couldn't do it. So how do you affect Josh Allen that way? He can't get everyone. He can't get Shakira involved, He can't get Kincaid involved, He can't get Amari Cooper involved. So those are the first initial two thoughts I have on the game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, I could tackle you.

[Big Cat]

I would simply want it more. That's the key, is you just have to want it more than the other guy.

[PFT Commenter]

You can want it as much as you want to, buddy.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

285. And if I'm running that shoe, you can want it all you want. You ain't stopping me, buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I would backpack you.

[Big Cat]

I would just. Here's my strategy with Derek Henry. I would kind of do the olay and let him get right by me and then jump on his shoulders and then he'd have to carry me like a backpack and hopefully slow him down for somebody else, somebody bigger, to come in and just take care of business.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't, I still don't know if that's going to work, buddy, because I would carry you. How much do you weigh, by the way? Because you look like you're like really skinny fat. So. So I mean, what are you, like 195, 200.

[Big Cat]

That's a little personal booger. No, I, I'm clocking in about 175. I've been swimming a lot recently.

[Ryan Whitney]

175.

[PFT Commenter]

175. That's a bad 75, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, I was gonna go the other way. I was gonna say, you know what they call a man under £200. What's that, a woman?

[Big Cat]

Listen, I've been. I've been in better shape in my life. That's. That's a fair thing to say. But I. I'm confident that I could tackle you if you gave me enough time.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, 100 yards got. Hopefully 100 yards is enough time.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, they took away the best strategy that the Bills had, which was you could always just grab Derrick Henry by his hair.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you can't do it anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good point.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But I'm excited about this game, too. We were saying on. On Monday that ironically, the weakness and in the Ravens might be their kicking game. Based on how Justin Tucker's been recently, he seems to have straightened it out a little bit, and he's. He's better than he was. But yet, to me, this Ravens team seems like they're as good of a team as they've had in this entire run with Lamar.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think I would agree to that. And how about that? A Hall of Fame kicker in Justin Tucker, to your point, could be a weak link. And we know he's got the leg. He's done it for years. We know it's in there. Do you think it's just mental? Like, how can a guy who's a Hall of Fame player who's done something at the highest level, like, get a mental block where he can't do it in front of people all of a sudden? Have you ever thought about that?

[Big Cat]

That's the kicker thing. Man, kickers are weird. They usually, you know, they usually have, like, the physical ability to do their job well into their 40s, but at some point, you get, you know, you're. You lose just a tiny bit of strength, and then that affects your mind. And in your mind, then you try to overcompensate for anything weak that you're doing.

[PFT Commenter]

I think John Harbor's got to trust him, though. So if this game comes down to a money kick, it's, you know, end of half, end of game, 57 yarder, where you knew Justin Tucker was money. You know, the announcer is going to bring it up. You know, Jim Nance and Tony Romo, you know, Tony's going to bring it up and.

[Ryan Whitney]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And we're going to have a conversation. There may even be a timeout call to build attention. I would just love to know what would be going through the mind of Tucker at that point if it happens, and also what would go through the mind of his teammates, because you can't just erase history of this past season where he struggled. I mean, he struggled a lot throughout this season, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has. It's in that it always feels like if you have that kicker situation going into the playoffs, like we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop. We're waiting for that moment to happen. I want to give you some credit, Bug, because you. We watched the Rams vs Vikings on Monday night. The Rams were incredible. Sacked Sam Donald nine times. Sam Donald did hold on to the ball a little too much, but you pulled up your own receipt, which I love this move. People should do this more often when they're right. You said in November, you said if I could have any defense in the NFL for the next three years, not sure I wouldn't take the rams. That front seven is young and nasty. Imagine going from 80 to what they have now. Great job, less need. They are young and nasty. They are incredible. They showed it on Monday night. Now we have that defensive line going against the best offensive liner than maybe the, you know, them or the Lions with the Eagles. How's that going to play out? And again, credit to you for a great take.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I appreciate it. It's going to be a heavyweight fight, man. And if you think about this, we often, you know, everybody, you loves to use these cliches. The Green Bay packers are the youngest team in the league. Okay, I get it. They've been the youngest team the last two years. How about this one? The Rams defense. And I think Troy used this last night. It's the cheapest defense in football because they got all those, all those first and second year players. It's the cheapest defense in football. One of the most talented defenses in football. And if they have any shot of upsetting the Philadelphia Eagles, those young players have to go out and play as if they don't know any better. Because on paper and in Vegas, everybody would tell you that it's going to be a mismatch. That offensive line. Saquon Barkley. Just think about what happened a month or so ago when these two teams played each other. But it's something about when you face a team a second time. I remember when we played the Philadelphia Eagles and we couldn't get over that hump and we kept going against them. The ability to know what you were going to deal with. And when you went into the game, you didn't have to feel anybody out. You knew what it was going to be. I think the Rams are going to get the benefit of that because they Know what it's like to see Makai Beckham, like, the dude 67350. Like, you could put you two together, and that's Makai, Becton, Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, Cam Juergens, Malata. Like, those dudes are gigantic. I think the smallest one outside of the center is like 6, 6 and 325, right? And so you have to know what that feels like to go against it. That way, when you go into the game, you understand how to attack it. I think the Rams are going to do that. The key to this game will be, and it sounds crazy, I don't know what the weather's going to be like, but I guarantee it's going to be cold. How does a team from Southern California who's got young guys deal with the cold weather? As somebody who's been in this league and been a young guy, it's difficult to deal with if you haven't had to do it a lot. The first time I played in cold weather, I'll never forget it. We were in Chicago, and here I am, I'm a rookie. I'm about to put on every layer that the equipment manager has given me. And Hardy Nicholson looks at me and says, hey, no, no, no, no, we don't do that on defense. I said, what do you mean? It's like 10 degrees outside. He said, no, we don't do that. He's like, on defense, we tough it out. We got to tough it out. So of course I wanted to fit in. I didn't put anything on. And when that wind came through that tunnel in Chicago, it felt like it went right through the crack of my behind and out of my nose. Makes it the coldest I've ever been in my life, I promise you. I've never been colder in my life. And all I thought about was when this game was going to be over and how could I get back to the locker room. And so the next few times that I played in the cold weather, I prepare for it. I used to use this stuff called Tiger Bomb and Vaseline. Drank a shot of whiskey before the game, little chicken broth. And so my body and my skin was ready to play. That's a real thing. I hope this Rams team is ready to deal with the elements because that will give them a heads up in playing in this game.

[Ryan Whitney]

What's the. What's the worst, like play that you like? Is it tackling someone else is getting blocked? Is it. What's the worst feeling in the cold? Being under the pile?

[PFT Commenter]

All of it all of it.

[Ryan Whitney]

All of it.

[PFT Commenter]

All of it. Pre game warm up is kind of the worst because you got to get your body loose and warm. And once you get loose and warm and no lie. Small shot of whiskey. I mean, we don't need anything hard like vodka. I mean, we don't need anything. Just like a small shot of a little Tennessee something. Something light just to kind of get the throat nice and warm. Put the tiger bomb on. Get ready to go get lubed up a little bit. And here's the last thing. You got to put the full body onesie on the ski suit. Cut the toes out, all right? Make sure that the shoes are nice and dry. And once you get warm, the key is to stay warm. Like the worst thing you ever want to do is get warm and then cool off because then you freeze, right? All that, all that perspiration freezes up and you'll be cold as hell.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I love the idea of you stepping into Chicago and being just getting spit roasted by the wind. Just like from your ass to your nose. I can't stand this. Did you ever see like an offensive lineman and they're not wearing sleeves in the cold and did that make you intimidated?

[PFT Commenter]

First of all, I think it's a code that the offensive lineman can't wear sleeves. They all didn't have any sleeves on. I didn't feel intimidated. I just thought they was crazy. Listen, at a certain point, I don't care how tough you are, mentally tough, if it's zero degrees, everybody's cold. Like you're not going to tell me at zero, man, I'm not cold. That's a lot. Everybody's cold. Now. Are you going to play with it? Sure, you can play with it. But everybody's cold at zero degrees. Coldest game I ever played in was Green bay. It was zero degrees. Windshield was minus 15 and the sun was out. Coincidentally, it was one of the best games I ever had because I knew how to dress. The tiger bomb on my skin. I felt good. And the sun was out. So the sun being out at least made me feel better.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah, it does.

[Big Cat]

Look at the weather. It's going to be high of 38 on Sunday in Philly. What time is the game?

[Ryan Whitney]

So it's like 2, 3 o'clock. 3 o'clock?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a. It's a 3 o'clock game.

[Big Cat]

It's probably going to be like mid-30s, possibly raining. So I guess it could be worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it could be.

[Booger McFarland]

Are you worried?

[Ryan Whitney]

Bug about Jalen? Hurts at All. I mean, he's. He's. He looked rusty. He did not have the best game. That offense, I don't know what it is. The Eagles offense, like, it's just. It's not sluggish because they obviously have, like, incredible skill position on the outside, and Saquon had 2,000 yards. It's almost just like. Like, they move at a pace. It's like. I don't. I don't get it. I just watch it, and I'm. I, like. I'm like, you guys should be going faster, and you should have more plays that are explosive downfield with all the guys you have.

[PFT Commenter]

So everybody says the same thing, but they beat around the bush. So let's just lay this out. Yeah, let's look at. Let's look at the Eagles offense. A.J. brown, Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard, they got weapons. Carcatera offensive line, I think we would say, is one of the best offensive lines in football, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Saquon Barkley's been the best back in football this year, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So what's the last piece?

[Big Cat]

Fullback.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, fullback.

[PFT Commenter]

Nobody plays at a fullback anymore. Last piece of the quarterback. But for whatever reason, like, he hasn't been bad, but he hasn't been great. And so it kind of leaves you asking that question, what's wrong with the Eagles offense? The answer is right in front of us, guys. The. The indifferences of the quarterback and how that reverberates throughout the. The offense is the issue because regardless of what's being said, when the quarterback is off, everybody's affected. The receivers are affected, the offensive line is affected. And to me, Saquon Barkley has been the calming force on this team because he was an outside guy that came in, and Saquon Barkley is a team guy. He's a guy that tries to galvanize everybody and get everybody together. And so I honestly think he's the guy that's holding this thing together, because as we saw throughout the season, receivers looking at the quarterback sideways, quarterbacks look at the receiver sideways, and everybody come out, came out and said the right thing. But to your point, Big Cat, you just. You just asked the question, right, that everybody continues to ask, right? What's going on with the offense?

[Ryan Whitney]

It's. It's. I like, Jalen Hurts is not bad, but he also is not, like, great. It's. It's such a, like, confounding issue because I like him a lot of times, and he's objectively not a bad quarterback. But I think it's. It's what you're saying. Like, everything else is there. And you look at some of the guys that are still playing and the way they elevate their game in the playoffs. And Jalen Hurts has done that. He played phenomenal in the Super Bowl. So it's like, get back to that Jalen Hurts and get to that level.

[PFT Commenter]

No question. We've seen him do it. He was the best player on the field in that super bowl against Patrick Mahomes. No doubt about it. I will try to describe it this way and make a comparison that I think everybody in America can understand. It's like having a hamburger with no cheese on it and no condiments. Like, it's a burger. Everybody loves burgers. But is the burger really that good without the condiments? Like, it's okay, but everybody has their specific condiments in which they want to put on it. I'm a cheese, bacon, mayo, every now and then a hard fried egg guy. I don't know what you guys are, but unless you're five years old, nobody really eats a plain burger.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I was gonna say we all.

[PFT Commenter]

Need something on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm thinking about the cheese the whole time.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, exactly. I eat plain burgers just because my son, he's five. So then I just clean up his. I, you know, I eat the. The burger that he doesn't eat. So. But yeah, it's terrible every single time. I'm like, this sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

But. But. But if I said, hey, let's go get some burgers, you'd be like, let's go. Like, I'm all in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But if I don't get everything that comes with the burger, you're like, not really that good of a. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think that's Jalen Hurts. Like, Jalen Hurts is like the burger. But we just continue to wait. When we're going to get the toppings, when are we going to get everything that goes with it? We've had it before. We had it in the super bowl where he was outstanding and it was like the greatest in and out burger. Double double animal style with cheese, the whole nine. And we just want to get that again. And we haven't quite gotten it. We've been dealing with fat burger. We've been dealing with Chili's Old Timer with cheese. Like, we've been dealing with a lot of things, but we haven't got the in and out double double animal style since the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he should never have given us a taste of it because now that's All I think about.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max, I'm curious to know what you think. Our producer is a big Eagles fan. He's also a big fan of burgers, so I'm curious to hear what his thoughts are on this analogy.

[Dana White]

I would say he's a little bit better than a plain burger, but, you know, that's me. I could. I could be biased.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. A little bit better. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

A little bit. So. So he's like a burger with, like, pickles only.

[Dana White]

No. I'll give him a slice of cheese, no sauce.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, that's. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I got it.

[Big Cat]

A turkey burger. Maybe he's a turkey burger with cheese.

[Dana White]

Nah, turkey burgers are good. You can dress up a turkey burger. Pretty good.

[Ryan Whitney]

You can.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Seriously, they're the worst.

[Big Cat]

But what does. What. What do the Rams offense have to do to win this game? Because Matt Stafford, he didn't look good for the last month, month and a half of the regular season, but he looked pretty good on Monday Night Football. He was slinging it like. Like. So what do they have to do?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I. I wonder what the health of Tyler Higby is going to be like, because he went out in that game with a. An abdominal strain or something happened, a shoulder. I can't remember what it was, but he didn't come back. And while he was in the game, he had got five or six catches, so that's going to be key. Second of all, they need to be able to run the football. And, like, you know, Jalen Carter and Chris Jones are probably the two best defensive tackles in football. No disrespect to Jeffrey Simmons down in Tennessee, but Jalen Carter is playing at an unbelievable level for Philadelphia. And Nolan Smith, who a lot of people thought was a bust, he's coming on. So you got to be able to neutralize those two guys, and you got to run the football. Adam with Williams, man, and I think the Rams offensive line is going to be key. Then it comes down, like, when you get in big games, man, like, your stars got to be stars. It's got to be Stafford, the Cooper Cup, Stafford, the Puka, Nakua, Stafford to Robinson. Like, Matthew Stafford has to remind us of the Matthew Stafford that was with Calvin Johnson. Like, he's got to come out and sling that thing. It can't be anything else. Like, he's got to throw for 300 yards. Puka Nakua's got to have a vintage day. Cooper cup has got to remind us when everybody was like, man, who's that white boy. That's Cooper Cup. Like he's got to have one of those days. And so I think if they do that and they can run the football and this defense plays at that super high level, the Rams can take this game into the fourth quarter. And when you're the underdog, that's really all you want. You want when you come out of that last break and it's six minutes left for it to be a one score game either way. And that's all you can ask for on the road in the elements. I think the Rams can do that, but we'll see.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm excited. We might get a White Cooper versus White Cooper matchup versus Cooper DeJean.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Who are you taking?

[Big Cat]

I'm taking white Cooper.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I'm taking.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

For white people. I'll be honest. That's weird. We've been taking a lot of Ls recently. That's a big dub for the white.

[PFT Commenter]

Race, by the way. I'm going to check your NFL facts right now. Cooper de Jean, white DB.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Before. Before Cooper DeJean, who was the last prominent white cornerback?

[Big Cat]

Jason Seahorn.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go. I'm just checking to see if. I'm just checking. Come on.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, it's not a long list. Yeah, it's not a long list. All right. So, Boog, I have a question about the Chiefs. You were obviously in this spot as a player. You were on teams that had the bye week. How much better do you feel after a bye week? Is it significant? Like, is it. Can you notice the difference in practice? And we do the rest versus rust thing is that just all bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

I would rather have the rest. Especially if your bye week was early to middle part of the season. And like the physical part, you're not going to make. You're not going to go from like 3 to 10 physically. You might go from 3 to like 7. But more importantly, mentally, I think a weak break mentally where you don't have to get your mental levels, your competitive juices flowing. You can take a mental break where you actually, instead of dreading to play or trying to figure out how to play, you're chomping at the bit to play. And that's a big difference. That's why you see the teams that have a bye week often come out in that first five minutes, that first quarter. They are flying around because it's mental. You're ready to compete. You're ready to get out there. You haven't competed in a while because we're creatures of habit. And when you've done something from July until January, and then you take a week off, like, your body is still in that competitive mode, even though you've had a week off, so you're ready to get out. It's kind of like, you watch this. You guys do a podcast every week or whatever. If you take a week off, you're like, man, I can't wait to get back on. I got so much to say. I'm ready. It's the same thing with football, and I think, mentally, the Chiefs are going to get a break. I think the Chiefs also are going to be really healthy. It'll be the healthiest they've been. I think if you're the Texans, man, like, you really got to be careful the first. First quarter of that game, and, like, you can't come out of the first quarter down 14 nothing, because they're going to try to come out and make a statement and let everyone know that it's the Chiefs Invitational still. But, yeah, I would rather be mentally and physically rested and have a. A tad bit of rush than to continue playing and have your body banged up and beat up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. In a way, though, I also feel like getting to play and play well last weekend is a very, very good thing for the Houston Texans because they haven't looked that good this season. They haven't been blowing people out, but their defense looks so good last week and. And they were heating the quarterback up, put them under pressure all day. Are they going to be able to do that to Patrick Mahomes? Are they going to be able to get to his face and make some awkward throws?

[PFT Commenter]

So I. I don't really have to even watch this game. If I looked at the stat sheet and. And without, like, took a blind look at the stat sheet, and I saw Will Anderson Jr. Three sacks, four pressures. I saw Danielle Hunter, two sacks, seven pressures. I'm like, this is a game in the fourth quarter, because if those two defensive ends can put up a stat line like that, or they sack Mahomes four or five times, it's nine or ten pressures. Yeah, that game is going to be a tight game because that means they're going to affect the quarterback and they're going to affect the Chiefs offense. Like, the biggest weakness. I think everyone knows it's the chief tackles. Like, they've had to move Joe Tunney out there. They. They've. They've tried to draft a guy. It doesn't matter. Those tackles have been bad. I know it. You know it. You know who else knows it? Andy Reid. So he's going to try to game plan around that. And so the Houston Texans defense and DeMeco Ryan have got to figure out a way to affect the quarterback. You know, if, if you affect Patrick Mahomes, then you affect the entire team because he's the, he's the thing that makes that go offensively. The Texas offensive line, man, like, I'm not sure what happened to Laramie Tunsil. I'm not sure what's going on with, with Titus, with Howard. Like, these guys haven't been playing well. They got a lot of money invested in that offensive line and they haven't played well. And for the first time in over a year, I thought C.J. shroud looked like the C.J. shroud we saw when Ohio State took on Georgia. He was running around making plays, he was making throws like, I haven't seen that guy because we all watched that Sugar bowl and you were like, I didn't know he could have second reaction plays. I didn't know he could do that. I think he won America over that night. And then all of a sudden his rookie year, he was great. And then this year it's kind of been like, I haven't seen that guy since his rookie year. If he can play like that, man, for sure, this can be a game. I don't know if I expected to be close, but I think the Texan Texans can hang in there for a little while.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's a good point about the, about C.J. shroud scrambling because he did it did feel like he did that more and was effective with his legs. On Saturday against the Chargers, you brought up something, Andy Reid game planning, and this might be a dumb question, but do you have a story or remember a specific game where your game plan was so elite that you knew almost instantly, you're like, this is that. Like we're, this is going to be the easiest day ever. Like we, we know there, I mean, I guess the super bowl, the first one you won, but is there another time where you're like our coaches? Just the way they got us ready for this game, there's no way we're losing today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I remember in Indianapolis where we're playing Cincinnati Bengals, it's a Monday night and it wasn't the game plan, it was after the first series. So if you remember when Carson Palmer was there and Ochocinko and like all those guys during the Cincinnati heyday, they went no huddle, they went up tempo. And when you go up tempo, I tell people all the time, when you go up tempo. Like, the offense can't be super complicated because those guys aren't rocket science. We're on rocket science. Like, it's got to be a code that everybody's going about. And so after the first series, we figured out when Carson Palmer would come to the line of scrimmage and say, 9, 22, Las Vegas. 9 22, Las Vegas. Well, Las Vegas is a West coast city. It was a run to the left. If he came up and said, whatever. 6, 44. 6, 44. Let's go. Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Check that, check that. New York East. New York East. It was a run to the right. And so we were able to decipher their game plan running the football within the first series of the game. And so they didn't really have a ton of yards rushing that game. So it's one of those things where, like, the game plan can be cool, but everybody makes little subtle adjustments.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so it was a cool game plan where Palmer is kind of, you know, doing his thing, and we were able kind of to decipher their code that night.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's got to be the best feeling in the world to just be like, hey, guys, we know this. And now, like, every single time he says it, we're just going to stop it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, what you. What you have to do is you have to kind of be like a kid in a candy store. Like, you can't ever. You can't let everyone know that, you know when Santa's coming. Like, you kind of got to like, oh, man. Man, that's. This is tough. You really know what's coming.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You. You played five seasons for Jon Gruden in Tampa, right? Our colleague John Gruden. You have any good Jon Gruden stories.

[Ryan Whitney]

From the locker room?

[PFT Commenter]

I got so many, man. Like, first of all, I'll start it with this. Like, John and I started out on a good relationship, then we hit a rocket patch, and I think we're good now. But there was a period of time where I was. I was probably his least favorite player of all time.

[Ryan Whitney]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, just. Well, you gotta. You gotta understand, Gruden is an offensive guy. There's nothing more he loved than another offensive player. Like, if you name him, he loved him. Defensive guys were just a tool to get him the ball back, especially down in Tampa, you know, one of the best Gruden stories ever. Let's see, we've all seen the. The clip of Chris Sims. Like, Chris Sims and Jon Gruden, and Chris Sims is trying to call the play and Gruden is looking at him like, I just told you to play. Like, can you really say. Like, can you not say the play? And he's. I mean, he is dog cussing him and mf and we're standing there on defense like, like, like this poor kid, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And just to see him, just to see how he did and dealt with young players was the most amazing thing, dude. And he would do it every single year. He didn't like young players because he wanted veteran guys that knew how to practice, that knew how to work, that knew that he didn't have to babysit. And so anytime a young guy came in, John Gruden was always. He was always a treat to watch.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

So there's another game out there this weekend. The Commanders, my beloved commanders, have to go up to Detroit and play against the Detroit Lions. I haven't released my keys to the game. I'm breaking down film all week. I don't want to release keys to the game too early because I know that Jared listens to the podcast and I don't want to give him any inside information. So I'm saving that for Friday. But what would your keys to the game be for how the Commanders could possibly have a chance to be what looks like on paper to be a pretty significant mismatch?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Jayden Daniels has to be special, and their defense is going to have to create some turnovers. Like, we've seen Jared Goff turn the football over a little bit before. So they got to get turnovers. And I think before we even get to the X's and O's on the field, they gotta withstand that building. I played in that AT four field. That place is going to be at a fever pitch. They're the number one seed. If they win two games, they get to the Super Bowl. Both of those games are going to be at home. Like, they've earned the right for the road to the super bowl to come through Detroit. And so you got to withstand, like the road team. There's a reason only one road team won this week, and that was your Commanders. Now can they do it again? It's going to be a different building. Tampa was loud. Tampa was boisterous. Ford Field is going to be totally different. So they got to withstand that. And then Jaden Daniels is going to have to make. We all know he can make those plays with his legs. He's got a rush for over 100 yards, and then he's going to have to hit some chunk plays down the field of Terry McLaren. The good thing about everything I just said, it's all doable, okay? It's all very doable because this Detroit defense is banged up, it's beat up. Like, I think they're. They're going to be without of their starting day 11. They're going to be without six of those guys. Five or six. One of their corners, Tyrion Arnold, he's a rookie. He's learning. He's going to be good, but he's very handsy right now. If you're Terry McLaren, I think you got it. Anytime there's a matchup of Tarion Arnold versus Terry McLaurin and you're Jay Daniels, let it go now. Now, I think you're gonna have to watch for the safety Kirby Joseph in the middle of the field. He's an all pro player. He's got eight or nine interceptions. You got to watch for him. But I think if you're Washington and you watch film, this is not the Detroit Lions team that we thought they were going to be. Defensively, at the beginning of the season, they are vulnerable, but in order to make them vulnerable, you're going to have to withstand the building. You're going to have to get some turnovers from Jared Goff, and you're going to have to get your quarterback to play to where we think he's going to be in two or three years. Like, in two or three years. I think Jaden Daniels is in the conversation with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. He's not there yet, but he's got to give you a glimpse of him being there in order for them to win this game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Do you. Do you believe at all? I mean, Alexander Loney coming back for The Lions, Week 18. They have an incredible game plan for the Vikings. He's got the green dot on. Is that. Is that, like, overstated his return, or is it something that really, like, getting everyone in the right place can mean that much. And being in the right place, that Lions defense can maybe cover up all the injuries they have.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, getting everybody back in the role, dude, is like a major key. Like, imagine if your wife goes out of town and she leaves the kids with you, big guy. And then all of a sudden.

[Ryan Whitney]

Happening this weekend. To me, it's happening this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, the wife goes out of town, you got the kids, and maybe you got a nanny that comes over and helps out, but it's just not the same when the wife is there. Like, if things don't feel the same, it's not the same. You don't feel the same. Things may be getting done, but it's not the same. It's very similar, dude. It's the same thing. So when Anony comes back, things feel normal. He's the green dot. He calls the defense. You feel reassured that if you take a nap and fall asleep that the kids aren't going to just jump out the windows.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like when Ancelony there, he's going to get everybody in their proper position. So it definitely makes a difference.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, My, my kids, I. My wife is out of town on Saturday, Friday and Saturday this weekend and not my kids get ready to eat cereal for breakfast, lunch and then Mac and cheese for dinner. That we're doing that. That's the whole menu? That's the entire menu for the whole weekend? Yeah, that's the whole menu. It's cereal and Mac and cheese. You choose. You can have, you can want cereal for dinner, Mac and cheese for breakfast, I don't care. But those are the only two things on the menu.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't like doordash, uber eats or like bring something.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, because then I always, you know what, I'm trying to watch my weight. I'm trying to be better. I'm about to turn 40. Bugs. The problem that I have is that when I order for, when I order dinner for my family, in my head I treat my 5, 3 and 1 year old as full grown adults. So I'm like, all right, my three year old, she'll have a, you know, a kung pao chicken. My one year old, he'll have, you know, the general TSO's and a side of fried rice and they don't eat anything. I mean they're kids. They eat like three bites of something and that's it. So then I end up with so much food and I just get fatter. So that's why that's tough for me when I try to order for the whole family.

[PFT Commenter]

I got you two things out of that. Number one, when the 40th birthday party is planned, I need an invitation. Whatever, whatever we're doing for, we're, we're.

[Ryan Whitney]

Gonna, we're PFT and I are both turning 40 at the end of January. We'll do something in New Orleans for the super bowl week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just let me know when. I will definitely be there. That's number one. Number two, I mean if you're gonna order for the kids, like stop ordering like they're grown. Like just.

[Ryan Whitney]

I can't help myself.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm like, oh, and tell them to Send like a party friend. You can just get 50 nuggets. Let them all share.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. No, I. When we go to Chick Fil A, I'm like, all right, you guys. Like, I look back and I'm like, to my one year old, like, all right, you're good for 20 nuggets. They're good for three. And then I eat the other 17. That's my problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that sometimes, buddy. Nothing wrong with that.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They look at you like you're over providing for them, too. That's a good dad move.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're never going to worry about their next meal. That's good. That's a positive.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. And I'm just going to eat all of it. Book. I did want to talk about college football real quick. Monday or Monday night, we have the national championship. Ohio State, Notre Dame. Ohio State's the better team. We're going to be honest. Ohio State's a better team. Talent wise. Give us the case for Notre Dame. Because I like, I love what Marcus Freeman has done. I think they are such a tough team, and I think that there's something in there with Notre Dame that they can hang around in this game and maybe have some, you know, one of those college football plays late where, where they're able to win this game.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I think there's something there. Like, this team has been super resilient all year. I think if they're starting 22, they're going to be down like eight or nine guys when this game starts. Marcus Freeman has built an unbelievable program. The resiliency, the mental toughness. With that being said, when you step on the football field, like, you got to make plays like Jeremiah Love, he's got, he's, he's got to have a day to Darian Price, that they're going to have to run the football. Like, anytime you're the underdog, you want to shorten the game a little bit. Riley and Leonard, we say this every time. Like, he's going to have to make a play down the field throwing the football. He's got to hit a big play. And then their defense, which I think is Marcus Freeman's specialty, is going to have to be out of this mind because Chip Kelly, the offensive coordinator, Ryan Day, I think number one, they're going to try to get Jeremiah Smith going because he had one catch for three yards last time. And I don't know if you want to go into an off season where he isn't a huge part of the game. So I Think Jeremiah Smith is going to be targeted early and often. I think when you look at Trevion Henderson, you look at Quinshawn Judkins, it's so many of those guys that I think are going to be unbelievable for Notre Dame to deal with. So, yeah, to me, if Notre Dame plays at their best, if they play at their best, this is still a two score game. Oh, and I think, yeah, even if they play it there, because there's, there's such a disparity, I think, when it comes to talent, where we are now. Now, if this was the original Notre Dame starting 22, I think this would be a one score game and maybe come down to the, the fourth quarter where you're like, okay, Notre Dame, I can see a path for them winning. It's tough for me to see that now with the current Notre Dame team, based on the injuries and based on everything they got. And, and I think the wild card is this. If you're, if you're a Notre Dame fan, I, I think you got to go and say a prayer for number one to touch down Jesus.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And then secondly, you gotta hope. You gotta hope that Will Howard reverts back to Will Howard at Kansas State against the University of Kansas, where sometimes he just didn't realize he was a good quarterback.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And maybe he has a bad day. Other than that, I, I think this is going to be a comfortable Ohio State win. May not start out that way, but I think eventually it'll be a comfortable win for them.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Notre Dame has the ultimate twelfth man. The Lord just call on him. But Book, I mean, why even play the game? Surely Ohio State would never lose a game to a team they should be by two scores.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, of course. I mean, we just started a month ago, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, I.

[PFT Commenter]

But notice, notice how Michigan won the game. Turnovers. Will Howard threw. Well, I knew he threw one pick, maybe two.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They ran the football. They control the line of scrimmage. They shortened the game. Jeremiah Smith did everything that I just talked about. Run the ball, shorten the game. Jeremiah Smith didn't get off Will Howard playing like, not Will Howard. Like, that's what they got to get like. You got to ask yourself, can we repeat what Michigan did?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Booger, you're a big SEC guy. Would you like to apologize for the SEC in these playoffs? Because all I heard going into the playoffs should be three more SEC teams. You could make the case that half the SEC should get in. They're the best conference in the country. Now we don't have any sec. You barely had any in the semifinals. If you can call Texas an SEC team, I feel like you should apologize for. On behalf of the conference.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not going to apologize for a conference that's dominated college football. You know, what I will say is this, is that I think the years and the ages where the SEC and to a certain extent the ACC with Clemson dominate college football is over with. And you look no further than the transfer portal in Nil, because no longer can these teams in the south stack their rosters. Because I'm not going to wait two years to play when I can go to Penn State or Oregon or Michigan. And I can play right now. I can play right now and I. And they'll play me 250 grand. So like, like, that's just never, ever going to. And think about this, Think about this. Look no further than the number one recruit in America this year, Bryce Underwood. Bryce Underwood was committed to LSU for 10 months. At the very end, here comes Ellison, here comes Port Nor, here comes Brady, and all this money comes in and now he goes to Michigan. Five years ago, that doesn't happen. Yeah, but now it happens. So I. I think we've just reached a point where there's going to be a lot more parity in college football.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right. All right, so, Boog, I have one last question. Roback question. R, H, O, B A C K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take my last question for you, by the way.

[Booger McFarland]

By the way, what do you got?

[PFT Commenter]

Look what I have on right now, baby. Roback joggers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, let's go. All right. Yeah. You know what my last question is? What are you doing in the gym these days? You said you just had come from the gym. So what's the routine? We have a new gym in our office, so I have to. I'm trying to get back in a new routine. I've been busy, but, like, once football ends, I want to get into a new routine.

[PFT Commenter]

So, you know, once you've reached the age of 40, I think. I think what you need to do in the gym is lift a lot less weight. So everybody knows I'm a big peloton guy. I'm almost at like 1500 rides for my career. But I wanted to get back into the gym and. And just kind of start to tone up a little bit and so what I do in, in the gym is a lot of body weight stuff. So squatting, one single leg, functional movements. So single leg body weight squats. Put your, put your body in a position and you can do it just using your body weight. Single leg RDls. Like the heaviest. The heaviest dumbbell I pick up is 40 pounds. And it's, it's. It's a lot of supersets. It's high intensity. It's eight reps here, eight reps there. Three, four rounds. Not. I'm not benching, I'm not squatting, I'm not throwing 315 pounds up. You don't need to do that like you're at the age of 40. It's a lot more about mobility. It's a lot more about prehab post hab. Like all those things where your body can functionally move. Like, make sure your hips are stretched out. All right? Not only will you enjoy, but the wife will too. Like, make sure everything is nice and loose. Okay. I feel like that's a new genics commercial.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's what I'm doing in the gym now, man. A lot of functional movement, a lot of stretching, a lot of superset stuff, a lot of high intensity. So I can tone up, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. You look good. You look great. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, booger, you kind of teased me a second ago when you were talking about Jaden. I just. I've been spending the last two days just watching Jaden highlights. Just taking. Soaking it all in because I don't know when the next time I'm going to get a playoff victory is.

[Ryan Whitney]

Who are. Can you list your top.

[Big Cat]

Top seven quarterbacks in the NFL?

[PFT Commenter]

Seven quarterbacks, so Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, Joe Burrow. That's four. I would probably go Matthew Stafford, five.

[Ryan Whitney]

Golf.

[PFT Commenter]

Jared Goff, six.

[Ryan Whitney]

And then it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's probably Dak seven.

[Ryan Whitney]

Shut up. Shut up.

[Big Cat]

Cut him off. Get him off the air.

[Ryan Whitney]

We got Raper. You're right there.

[PFT Commenter]

And then probably like to me, to me, Jaden Daniels is already top 10. He's already a top 10 quarterback.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I mostly just wanted to see your fingers as you count them.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the real reason that's right there. Like this one here, man. This one really, it just kind of. I don't know, it does a thing. Like these two right here.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're buddies.

[Big Cat]

It looks like you're making a gang sign.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, well, book, thank you. As always. We love having you on. And let's. We're going to watch one of the best weekends. This is a divisional round is what it really is like. Hey, this is the final eight teams. Let's go. Let's go find who's going to the conference championship. It's the best.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wait, man. Appreciate you guys always having me, having me on. Love you guys, man. Looking forward to seeing you guys in New Orleans, man. Let me know when the celebration is.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes, Done. All right, see you, Boog. Okay. Thanks to Booger McFarland, our good friend Boogie, we have our last ad that we're going to watch for the Doritos contest. Crash. The super bowl contest. It's up to the people to choose which creator will win $1 million and have their submission run as Doritos 25th Super Bowl AD by voting for their favorite fan made ad@doritos crash.com now until January 28th, fans can visit Dorito crash.com and cast their vote for who they think is the winning ad. Will it be abduction, barbershop, or charades? Vote for the next super bowl ad@doritos crash.com let's watch charades.

[Big Cat]

Okay, dad.

[Ryan Whitney]

For the win. I don't know.

[Dana White]

I'm not very good at this game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, it's in the bag. One word.

[Big Cat]

Door eat toes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Door eat toes.

[Big Cat]

Door eat toes. Door eat toes. Door eat toes. I got it, Chip.

[Ryan Whitney]

Love it, Love it. So go vote for the next super bowl [e-mail] and go eat some Doritos, because the best Chip ever. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, our friend, it is Dana white ahead of UFC311 this Saturday in Inglewood, California. Actually, let's start there. Dana, the. Are we still on for Inglewood? Obviously with the fires and everything, it's been crazy, really sad. But are we, are we full going Steve Ballmer's house, the Intuit Dome?

[Booger McFarland]

Yes, we are. We're, we're, we're going. I'm flying in there Thursday night. We have the press conference Fridays, the weigh ins, and then the events on Saturday.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, so, and, and UFC 311, we have two title bouts. What, what are you most looking forward to in, in this card? Because it's by the way, I want to say thank you. There's nothing better than like a full day of NFL playoff football and then you go right into a UFC card. It's like, that's, that's what, that's why we watch sports.

[Booger McFarland]

I could not agree more. How about how about the Rams, man? How about the Rams? How cool is that?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, Crazy.

[Big Cat]

They look legit.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, they do. They look really good.

[Booger McFarland]

So good. And Puka Nakua, you know, so I, Me and Lorenzo Fertitta funded this team, you know, like a peewee team. And Puka Nukua came off that team and grew up with my boys playing football, so.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

That's. What was he like? What was he like as a kid playing Dalton?

[Booger McFarland]

Kincaid lived with us through Dalton. Kincaid lived with us through Covid. He played football with my son. We have that team, little Cowboys team. Tons of guys went on to play in college, in the NFL.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So what was Puka like as a kid playing football? Because I love watching him play. He's just got. He's crazy out there.

[Booger McFarland]

He was a beast. He could play quarterback, running back, wide receiver. He played defense. He played special teams. They put him everywhere.

[Big Cat]

And his name's really fun to say too. Yeah, it really is.

[Booger McFarland]

A foot. And when you're in the state of puka, like every 30 seconds they're screaming his name. Yeah, he's the greatest kid in the world. It couldn't happen to a better guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's. It's awesome to watch. He's an absolute beast. So, all right, so. So UFC311, tell us what, which fight are you most interested in? Or you're like, this is the one that people maybe aren't. Maybe it's not the title fight, but we're like, this going to be an incredible fight.

[Booger McFarland]

I mean, the first of all, the main event. You know, Islam and Armen, it's. They are both. The style of fighting is almost identical. So it's. It's the toughest fight Islam could possibly get. So. So that's a great fight. And obviously Murab and Umar, the co. Main event, Umar is, Is supposed to be the future. I mean, he's undefeated 18. And oh, and you know, Merab has, has walked through everybody. Former champions. And let me think, Yuri Prohaska and Jamal Hill is a great fight. The whole card's badass.

[Ryan Whitney]

Are, are we worried?

[Booger McFarland]

Holland's always fun.

[Ryan Whitney]

Are we worried at all about Umar's corner man, Khabib, being kicked off a Frontier Airline flight?

[Big Cat]

What.

[Booger McFarland]

What the fuck is he doing on Frontier?

[Big Cat]

That was my question.

[Booger McFarland]

This kid's got more money than anybody and he, and that. But that's how humble he is. He's flying on that piece of airline, you know, what do you expect?

[Big Cat]

Well, my, My question was gonna be number one, what do you. What are you doing having Habib flying Frontier? And then number two, how bad do you have to up to get kicked off Frontier?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

I don't know what you have to do to get kicked off Frontier Airlines, but, yeah, listen, Habib doesn't fight anymore because he's got shitloads of money.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

I gotta teach Habib how to. How to charter a plane.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, and we need to make sure.

[Booger McFarland]

You'Re just going from Vegas to San Francisco.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I do like that. He was saying the exit row, though. That's. That's a man. That's saying, like, if. In case anything goes wrong, I would want. If I was on that flight, I'd be pissed off. They kicked Habib off as, like, an exit row captain.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

You are 100, right? That's how dumb they are in Frontier Airlines. If there's anybody you want in that position, it's Khabib.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[Booger McFarland]

Good job, Frontier Airlines.

[Ryan Whitney]

And we want it on the record, he's flying Frontier by choice. Not because Dana didn't pay him. Because I'm sure there's people who are like, oh, Dana didn't pay him. He's flying Frontier.

[Booger McFarland]

Not only did Dana pay him after he won the Conor McGregor fight, he went on, like, the Muslim world tour, and Saudi Arabia rained on him. Abu Dhabi rained on him. Qatar rained on him. Yeah, that kid's got more money than Putin rained on him. I mean. Yeah. Habib shouldn't even know what the Frontier Airlines is, just like most people don't.

[Big Cat]

The more you say the people that rained on him. Now I'm beginning to understand why maybe somebody wouldn't want him flying. But.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, but no, you got rained on. Make some.

[Big Cat]

You make some good points. He's probably got a lot of money right now.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, he's got plenty of money.

[Big Cat]

So give us something to look forward to in the undercards, because I love the undercards, too. We're going to be done with football. And, yeah, it's the nightcap. It's like you're gonna just roll into a perfect Saturday night just filled with sports. So what's one of the undercards that you have your mind your eye on?

[Booger McFarland]

You could look at Talbot, Barcelos, Almeida, and Speedback. Those are both great fights.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. I'm excited. Dana, I got a tough question for you.

[Booger McFarland]

It's a badass card.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Sold out. You know, the thing just opened. Biggest gate and the history of the. Of the arena, which isn't a big history, but WWE just did, like, 4 million. We should do close to 10 for this fight.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that. That place looks awesome.

[Big Cat]

Do you have any musical guests that you're lining up for 311?

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, to play?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, not 311.

[Ryan Whitney]

Not 311.

[Booger McFarland]

That's funny.

[Ryan Whitney]

It would be good.

[Big Cat]

Should play.

[Booger McFarland]

I got guys there. I think Travis Barker's coming. And we'll have musical. Musical guests there, but they won't be playing.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I got. I got a tough question for you, Dana. This is a very tough question. Talk to me about oiling up.

[Booger McFarland]

The oiling up?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, the. The. The.

[Booger McFarland]

The weirdest shit ever. I'm on. Your boy Taylor Lawan is blowing me up right now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, okay. He. He probably wants to play blackjack, so. Yeah, you. You. You. Basically, every time you go live, people just say, dana, oil me up. Like, non stop in the comments. You want to just address it and be like, hey, I'm not oiling anyone up. I'm not oiling myself up. Stop saying it.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, I went on, I was live one time, and some guy says, hey, Dana, I want to oil you up. And I was like, what the does that even mean? What. What kind of is that? And now it's a thing. Every time I go live, it's a thing. I don't understand it. I don't know what it means. I don't get it. I don't want to get it.

[Big Cat]

You got to get oil.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Have you thought about oiling yourself up? Like, that would do crazy numbers if you're like, hey, I got a big, big. I got big news I'm breaking on Instagram live about Conor McGregor. And then it just goes to you just oiling yourself up.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah. I don't know, man. I have no idea. You guys know what it means? What's it mean?

[Ryan Whitney]

I think.

[Big Cat]

I think it just happened one time. And now everybody's going to keep saying, hey, Dana, go get oiled up until you actually get oiled up.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's. The Internet just goes crazy.

[Big Cat]

And then after you do it, everybody be like, wow, that was stupid.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then. But then you can at least turn the page on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, you could flip it on.

[Big Cat]

Well, you probably be hard to turn the page. Oiled up.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wait, so what is Taylor texting about? He wants to play blackjack right now. That's what he's doing.

[Booger McFarland]

We just played this weekend. He came in town, we played this weekend, and he got murdered.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

And then I had to come save him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Yeah. Called Daddy. We do think of the tunnel of chaos. Pretty much every day I think of the tunnel Of Chaos. I do want to come back to Vegas and go back to the Tunnel of Chaos. It's like once you get a taste of it, you just can never. You can never get out of your mouth.

[Big Cat]

So how many nights a week would you say that you're at the Tunnel of Chaos?

[Booger McFarland]

Many, many nights a week. Almost vomit town. I'm probably there.

[Big Cat]

You're pretty good at it.

[Booger McFarland]

I was there last night.

[Big Cat]

You did a good job for me and big cats. We appreciate that.

[Booger McFarland]

How crazy was that?

[Ryan Whitney]

It was awesome. It was so much fun. It was. It was. I. I thought Will and Taylor were. Or especially Taylor was, just. Just, like, making things up. And then when we got there, it was a great dude's night. It was just like guys playing blackjack together, having a great time.

[Booger McFarland]

It was. It was awesome. And everybody in your company that was there won that night? Yeah, we were basically like, how much do you want? Yeah, I'll take 10 grand. 100 grand?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think Titus was down, like, 100 grand and battled his way back until he got Compton.

[Ryan Whitney]

Compton was down like 300k. He was shitting himself. And you're just like, it's all right.

[Booger McFarland]

That was a war. Yeah, that one was a war.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

That one was the only one that it wasn't easy. We didn't just clip off right away. We had to actually battle.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So. So, Dana, you were in the news this week. You just joined the board of Metta. First of all, what do you do on a board? I've always wanted to be on a board. I don't know what happens there, but what's your job on a board?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, that's where we differ. I never wanted to be on a board. I was never interested in it. And then, you know, when. When Mark called me, I like the idea of this. I like social media. I'm fascinated by it. I think it's the future of not just communication information, but I think it is, you know, it's the future of media. And obviously, AI is. Is fascinating. And he reached out to me, asked me if I would be interested. I was. And this was right after. So I literally was on vacation in Italy. I flew to the RNC in Milwaukee, spoke, and flew right back to Italy. And when I landed, I went to dinner, and Mark hit me and said, you got a minute to talk? And I said, yeah. And he asked me to be on the board, and he said, you always seem to be on the right side of everything, and my company needs a backbone. I said, let me see what this entails, and we got into it, and here we are. But my first board meeting was when I was on vacation during the Christmas break. And you basically, you know, they'll pop up things that, you know, either questions or challenges that the company is facing, and they ask the board to vote on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, I didn't even realize what to do. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So you. You just got brought into, like, kick everybody's ass.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. The backbone. That's pretty badass.

[Booger McFarland]

We actually just. I've been on the board for, like, two weeks, and I've already done. I've already done a lot of work in two weeks, let's put it that way. Yeah, it's been. It's been very interesting. So far.

[Ryan Whitney]

I got one.

[Booger McFarland]

So far, so good. I like it.

[Big Cat]

I got one of those meta headsets, and I. I mean, I. I can't get enough of being in the metaverse. It's. It's insane, the stuff that you can do. Are you planning on doing anything like that with. With the. Like, being in the ring? As close to the ring as possible.

[Booger McFarland]

That experience to a whole nother level? Like. Like your sunglasses right now. You'll be able to do all. Everything with your sunglasses on. Include and including watching content and. Yeah, we are. Have you tried the boxing game yet?

[Big Cat]

No, I haven't tried that one yet. I've mostly just done, like, Flight Sims.

[Booger McFarland]

Thrill of the Fight, it's called.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

Thrill of the Fight. Play Thriller for a month and watch the shape you get in.

[Big Cat]

So I actually. I'll get jacked up.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, I'm telling. You'll get in sick shape.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's incredible. All right. What are you doing for. For working out these days? You look, like, lean and mean.

[Booger McFarland]

I met this guy three years ago. Completely changed my life. I seriously, I'm not even. I feel like I'm 30 years old again. And every day I do this thing called the Superhuman protocol, which is cold plunge, sauna, red light therapy, oxygen therapy, and I work out keto. I. I've never felt better in my life.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

What is it called? The Superhuman Protocol.

[Booger McFarland]

Superhuman protocol, which is a group of things from oxygen therapy, red light therapy, cold plunge, and sauna.

[Ryan Whitney]

How long does that take?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, takes like an hour and 15 minutes. And so the whole working out and everything takes, like two hours, 15 minutes a day.

[Big Cat]

And how long are we in the cold plunge for?

[Booger McFarland]

Hour, three minutes.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's not bad.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's it.

[Big Cat]

I could do three minutes.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah. Three minutes at 50 degrees. Then you get in the sauna for 20 minutes at 180 degrees, red light therapy for 20, oxygen therapy for 10, and then you do your workout.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so you work out after all that? I thought that was the workout.

[Booger McFarland]

It depends on the timing. Sometimes I do before and sometimes I do after.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty intense. I would like just count that as my workout.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If I spend an hour, 15 minutes being a superhuman protocol, then I have to go to the gym afterwards. That sounds like a lot, but that sucks. I might try cold plunging. We'll see.

[Ryan Whitney]

But it shows you. You look awesome.

[Booger McFarland]

Thanks. Listen, you have a lot, A lot more time on your hands when you're unhealthy, believe me. A lot more time when I. When I. When I was unhealthy and dying.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So while we've got you here, I don't know if you've seen the professional Dick Kicking League.

[Booger McFarland]

Have you seen it?

[Big Cat]

What do you think about it? Is there. Is there room for an investment there from ufc? Because, I mean, that kind of takes Power Slap to the next level.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, I. I think I'm good on that one. I'm good. I don't see much of a future in that.

[Ryan Whitney]

How is Power Slap going? Because it's. I mean, it's. It always goes viral. It's. It's crazy to watch. Some of those guys are just hammering on each other.

[Booger McFarland]

The most successful business I've ever been a part of in such a short amount of time.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Who's the goat? Who's the best?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, we have champions in every division right now, but who's the best right now? I would have to say. Yeah. Crazy wine.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

The Crazy Hawaiian is the best.

[Ryan Whitney]

Crazy way. I wouldn't want to. With the crazy one. Hey, is. Is Conor McGregor ever gonna fight again for you?

[Booger McFarland]

Eventually.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Is he gonna fight against maybe Logan Paul?

[Booger McFarland]

No.

[Big Cat]

In India. KSI in India?

[Booger McFarland]

No, no, no. Hopefully, Conor McGregor returns in the.

[Ryan Whitney]

In the fall, because, I mean, that would. We're all looking for it. It would be. It'd be very fun to watch him back in there. I know we missed it, you know, last time, but we want. We want to see Connor back in there. Are you going to do. I went to a couple shows at the Sphere. Are you going to go back to the Sphere? It looked incredible. Like, it's. It's the. It's the most incredible place in terms of concerts and venues. Are you going to try to go back to the Sphere?

[Booger McFarland]

It's so badass. I. I love the Sphere. And. And anybody that's watching, if you're. If your favorite band ever ends up at the Sphere, you have to experience it there. I. I just went and saw the Eagles. It was so good.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So good.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Booger McFarland]

No, I'll never go back to the Sphere.

[Ryan Whitney]

Why? It just wasn't worth it.

[Booger McFarland]

It was a one. No, it was totally worth it. Yeah. But it was a one and done for me. It's very expensive.

[Ryan Whitney]

Expensive.

[Booger McFarland]

And the difference between, you know, a musical group going in there, they'll go in for two months, Right. So they amortize the cost of doing the show over two months. I went in there and spent 20 million bucks on one night.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Booger McFarland]

So that was awesome. It was an unbelievable experience. I did it first. I don't know if anybody else will ever do it. And what I thought was cool. I don't know if it was EDC or. But it was one of those, like, music. They just did it. And I saw stuff on. On the. On Instagram. It looked incredible.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Why go out in the middle of the desert when you could go in and do it at the Sphere?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, those are two venues I really want to get to is Red Rocks, and then see a. See a band at the Sphere. But, yeah, the Sphere looks like it would just break your brain. In a good way.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, no, it. The Sphere is a very, very cool experience. So anybody who's listening, believe me when I tell you. Seen it all. If your favorite band ends up at the Sphere, pay the money, fly out to Vegas and go check it out.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Big Cat]

Do you ever. You ever hang out with Mark Davis in Vegas? You guys ever hit the town together?

[Booger McFarland]

I just ran into him the other night at dinner. I saw him the other night. He was out of dinner with Jim Gray. I ran into those two, and, yeah, every time I see Mark, I go hang and we shoot the shit for a while. And he's a good dude.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You have any idea what the Raiders are going to be up to?

[Booger McFarland]

I don't. I didn't ask him any of that stuff.

[Ryan Whitney]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We ran into.

[Booger McFarland]

You know what's crazy? You know, the whole story about where, you know, I tried to get Brady to go play for the Raiders.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

And it actually started to happen, and then the deal imploded, and then he goes to Tampa Bay and. And wins a Super bowl down there, and then now he ends up owning a piece of the Raiders.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Such a crazy story. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Why don't. Would you ever own a piece of an NFL team or is that just not for you?

[Booger McFarland]

Nah, I'm not really into that. I. I like. I like finding sports that nobody else believes in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So do you have any big plans for this summer? What's. What's next for the ufc?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, you know, we're going to cruise around and we're going to places. We got Saudi Arabia coming up in on February 1st. We're doing power slap and UFC there. We are going back to Seattle. We haven't been to Seattle in a long time. We're heading back to Miami. We got March, we got London, England, we got Saudi Arabia and Sydney, Australia, back to back. So I'm going to Saudi and then going straight from there to Sydney. A lot of travel and a lot of places we haven't been in a long time.

[Big Cat]

Is there one country that you've been to that you were surprised just how nuts they are for the ufc?

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, I mean, you have to experience a fight in the uk. You have to experience it. It once in your life. It's the, the fans are just different over there, man.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's.

[Booger McFarland]

It, it's. It's very cool.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, when Patty, when, when Dave went over there to watch Patty fight, I was just like, God damn it, I wish I had gone because that looked so incredible.

[Booger McFarland]

100. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a very cool experience. Plus, like, when you go. When I started going to London in 2001, the food sucked over there. The food was absolutely brutal. Now in London, the food is off the charts. It's completely flipped. It's, it's, it's a great place to go.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right. They fix the food in London. All right, so, Dana, I had one last question again. UFC 3. 11 this Saturday night. Perfect timing. Right after the NFL games tune in. It's like wall to wall sports. There's nothing better. My last question is a robot question. Rhobac.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. You said in December that you're gonna do something. You have something in the works that we will never see fucking see coming for 20, 25. Can you give us just a hint what's, what's in the works? We'll never. I mean, I guess I never expected you to be on the meta board. Oh, does that count?

[Booger McFarland]

That wasn't it. Okay. All right. I didn't see that coming either.

[Ryan Whitney]

What about oiling yourself?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, we saw that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

I definitely don't see that.

[Big Cat]

What about using your power on the board? Get Zuck and Elon in the Octagon?

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, actually, you know, when that was. That was really being talked about and when I was, like, negotiating that deal, that was actually one of the. One of the coolest experiences of my career. That was fun. Every night I was on the phone with either one of them, talking about. And then we started talking about the Coliseum in Rome, and I seriously had a conference call with. With, you know, the. The. The government in Rome to. To try to make that happen. That was all legit. That was. That was real, and that was fun.

[Big Cat]

So who talked to.

[Booger McFarland]

But what I was talking about in December? Yeah, I. I would imagine it's probably gonna happen, and it's gonna happen in the fall. A fight that I'm working on.

[Big Cat]

Oh, and we'll never see it coming.

[Booger McFarland]

Nope.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna look for it coming.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Can you give us a hint?

[Booger McFarland]

That's your head.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But that's going to take place in the fall.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

I still think it's you oiling yourself up. That's just my guess.

[Booger McFarland]

I. I'll give you great odds that that's not it. You can bet on that one.

[Big Cat]

If I guess it will, you give me a million bucks right now?

[Booger McFarland]

I don't even know what the. That means. Oil yourself.

[Ryan Whitney]

It just oil up.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes. If you. If you. If you guess it, I'll give you.

[Big Cat]

A million dollars in cash right now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

My guess is Don Jr. Versus Hunter Biden.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah. No, you lose.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. All right. My guess. Oh, man. Let's go with Dave Portnoy versus Roger Goodell.

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, that's a good one. You lose, too.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. But if you put that on, you owe us a million. You owe us a million if you put either of those fights on.

[Booger McFarland]

That's right. That's right. If either of those happen, I'll gladly pay you a million.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. All right, Done.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's a great promotion, because now, for the next, like, nine months, I'm just going to be thinking about what I'm not going to see coming.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just looking over my shoulder all the time.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're never gonna see it coming. All right, so UFC 311, Saturday night, everyone tune in. Dana, thank you so much for joining us, man. We love having you on, and hopefully we see you soon.

[Booger McFarland]

Thanks for having me, boys.

[Big Cat]

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[Ryan Whitney]

All right, let's finish up. We got guys on chicks.

[Hank]

My husband and his group of friends all have something called a burner account on X the Everything app. They all think it's hilarious and are constantly referring to each other in public as their burner nicknames. At night, my husband will be cackling at his phone in bed and I'll ask, what's up? And he responds things like, just checking in on the burner verse. He said I'm not allowed to follow him because it's his me time. And every time I look at his page, he and his buddies are just trolling people. Like fans of other teams and people who don't like Caitlin Clark. What is going on and should I be concerned? Is this weird?

[Big Cat]

No, it's awesome.

[Hank]

No, it's weird.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

If you have a burner, cut them out forever.

[Big Cat]

I got into the burner life a few years ago. I only did for like, two months. I had a burner account and it's liberating. You say whatever you want.

[Ryan Whitney]

The. The, like, sec. Burner verse that's. That goes crazy. Just like fans of different teams. It all kind of. The only thing I don't understand is they respond to each other and they, like, will write their fake name in like. Like, it's almost a letter. I never got that. Like, they'll be like, hope you're doing well, and then sign it like Reginald. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, he's just having. He's just fucking around online.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's like a diary for guys. If your diary was only meant to piss other people off.

[Ryan Whitney]

Also, do not try to find it or follow them because you will not be happy.

[Big Cat]

Well, the good thing is they don't. They don't show likes anymore.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, true.

[Big Cat]

So you can get away with a lot more in the true. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Some of the burners, though, are getting like, very well. There's some that are getting like, they say like really crazy, like racist. But there's also some that are getting like, it's. I love watching the burners because when you get a little bit of following, you can tell when the burner wants to also have a little bit of fame. And so they like dip their toe in, like they'll, they'll tweet pictures that like, you could, someone could potentially be like, I know where that is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

And it's like a very tricky situation that's fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean it's, I think it's healthy to have an outlet for some things, but I don't like the verified burner accounts. It's not a true burner if you have a check mark.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, those get confusing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You shouldn't, you shouldn't verify your alt. But I was just thinking about the Costco guys. How are they going to be affected by the Tick Tock ban? And also how deep trouble.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How deep does this go? We know that it's a money game in Washington D.C. how many of these Congress people are taking money from Walmart and they know that Costco is getting all this free advertisement on Tick Tock from the Walmart, from the, from the Costco guys. So they're trying to ban Tick Tock to take out that big marketing stream that they got going on.

[Ryan Whitney]

These are good points, I think.

[Big Cat]

I think the Costco guys might be single handed. Single handedly responsible for the government trying to ban Tick Tock.

[Ryan Whitney]

There are Walmart guys now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But they don't do it for me.

[Ryan Whitney]

They do it for me. They're. It's like anti comedy. They don't even know what they're doing. Okay, next one big.

[Hank]

My fiance doesn't ever make a move on me. And if he does, he says he needs to take a peek at my V, which creeps me out. How can I tell him to stop doing that and actually seduce me like a normal person?

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Big Cat]

Let me take a peek at your V. What?

[Hank]

I mean, you're in too deep. You're fucking engaged to be wed. What?

[Big Cat]

Peek at your V. So this probably happened and like right off the bat she was like, surely he has other moves that he'll show.

[Ryan Whitney]

What the hell? Yeah, this one creeps me out.

[Big Cat]

I think you got it with a guy like this. You have to be very direct. And you also like that. Maybe give him some suggestions of things that you can say.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. What do you say?

[Hank]

Like, I don't know that I get Turned on by straight V. No, you.

[Big Cat]

Don'T get turned on by V just looking at V. I do.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I need some B with the.

[Big Cat]

V. Listen, hand up. I love vaginas, but it's like, I do too.

[Ryan Whitney]

But, like, if I just showed you a picture. You did.

[Hank]

You're either an ABV guy or a B. A V guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

A B, A V. Boop, boop, boobs.

[Hank]

Ass V. Like, the question is not assertive. It's. It's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah. People aren't like, it's A or B. Yeah, a B or V. I'm a brains guy. I respect a woman's brains.

[Dana White]

But if you look at, like, a full nude that has some V, it looks better.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's okay. Yeah, but like a zoomed in V. No, thanks.

[Dana White]

Yeah, zoomed in V. I don't think.

[Hank]

You'Re not zooming in on the. On the V first.

[Big Cat]

Sometimes. Sometimes you look at the V. Why do you guys hate V so much?

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't mean.

[Big Cat]

It's like the V is a buffalo wing and. And the B's are blue ranch. The A is celery all together. It's a beautiful picture.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't think, though, like, isn't this, like, when dudes send chicks dick pics? Chicks are like, what the hell is it? Like, just a solo dick pic is like, that doesn't do anything.

[Hank]

Same thing. Chicks aren't sending V picks. They're sending B and A picks with some voice.

[Big Cat]

I don't know where all this anti V bias came.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's not anti V. It's just. It's a standalone entity. You don't just zoom in on a.

[Hank]

V. Just like a video.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just like a picture of your balls would be not good.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's because, like, dicks and balls are objectively gross. And God bless women. I don't know how you put that stuff in your mouth. These are just fantastic.

[Hank]

Yeah, these are beautiful.

[Ryan Whitney]

These are great.

[Hank]

I love feeling these. I never, like, I want to see that. Like, wow. Just. I want to just look at it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm not looking at.

[Hank]

I could look at A at B's and A's all day, but I want to just, like, stare at a V. I want to experience.

[Dana White]

It's context.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, there needs to be context.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah. Weird guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The peek at the V is. That's like a child.

[Hank]

Yeah, I need to see.

[Ryan Whitney]

Your V is crazy.

[Big Cat]

Peek at your V is worse.

[Hank]

Yeah. I'm in quite the predicament with my girlfriend. I'm a mass Ohio State football fan and Ravens fan. Last weekend was a huge weekend for me as I had the semifinals for all state wild card game for the Ravens. Both nights. My girlfriend made me go out on dates with her where I was barely able to see either of the games. It was trying to watch my phone, but she wouldn't let me. Yikes. Next weekend is obviously a little bigger for me now that I have divisional Ravens, Bills game and Ohio State national championship. My girlfriend wants to go away to a cabin. No, this is not real. No, my girlfriend wants to go away to the long weekend, but I refuse to miss these games. Please help me find a way out of this so I can watch my favorite sports teams in the playoff and hopefully win a national dumper.

[Ryan Whitney]

Dude, these are the two. I mean, you have those in what, 24 hours because the late game on Sunday and then the national championship the next day. Yeah. If.

[Hank]

And if you can't get playoff football, like, if you can't negotiate a deal for playoff football.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Hank]

You're already in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Hank]

You're like, you're. You're. You're too far gone.

[Big Cat]

I think you got to fake being sick.

[Hank]

This doesn't sound like. I think this doesn't sound like a long term also. No, just say it. This is. This does not sound like a good relationship you're going to want to be in for a long time.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, this is. These are meaningful games for me. I'm not going to a cap unless the cabin has tv. Then.

[Hank]

And then, you know, but think about, think about if you're a Ohio State Ravens fan. Like two dates.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know one is.

[Hank]

Is. Is. You know, that's a settlement. Like, I'll go on one, but I'm watching the other one.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Booger McFarland]

No, you can't.

[Ryan Whitney]

You're getting into two dates.

[Hank]

This is not real. I like this.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, they said going to a long weekend in a cabin after two dates. Oh. Oh, I missed the two dates part.

[Big Cat]

The two dates last weekend, both nights.

[Hank]

My girlfriend made me go out. I was barely able to see either of the games. I was trying to watch my phone, but she wouldn't let me.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah, you're in trouble, dude. Get out.

[Big Cat]

The problem, the deep underlying issue is she doesn't understand your interests.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is a pretty big time of year for those interests.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's bad.

[Big Cat]

I think if you really, really like her fake being sick, be like, I gotta stay home because I'm puking. Like, act like it's. You're in elementary school and you. You're trying to miss a test, heat up the same.

[Hank]

But that's just a. That's a.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's.

[Hank]

Say you'll cut your bandaid on a. On a flesh wound.

[Ryan Whitney]

Say you'll cut your dick off if Notre Dame wins, then she has interest.

[Hank]

Sounds like she might be into that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, true. She was like, great. Okay. Is that it? Yeah. All right. Good show, boys.

[Hank]

V. Good show V. Good show.

[Ryan Whitney]

Numbers. Five memes. You think you're ever gonna get this one day? And that day's today? Oh, no, I'm never gonna get it. Okay, give it to us. 48. Okay.

[Dana White]

11.

[Big Cat]

I don't know where I got that.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'll go three.

[Hank]

36.

[Ryan Whitney]

Come on, man. You could have taken three. Yeah, that.

[Dana White]

That'll honestly hurt me the most.

[Hank]

Kid's been in my tick tock comment section saying 36.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is your.

[Hank]

This is your day. This is your moment.

[Big Cat]

Loser.

[Ryan Whitney]

60. Oh, the boys missed it. All right, come back in. Let's do it again. This one will count. This one will count. Oh, Shane. We haven't talked to you. Shane, did you go to the game? Oh, Shane's wearing a chart or sweater, too. Yeah, it's Shane. Shane. You didn't go to the game, did you? Did you go to the game?

[Big Cat]

What's up?

[Ryan Whitney]

Did you go to the game? No, I was.

[PFT Commenter]

I was on the ir. Flu symptoms.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. So real quick, just thoughts on Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying not to think about them.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Yeah. You're wearing a sweatshirt. You're wearing a charger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, that's just wardrobe.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's all he has. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I have to keep myself warm.

[Ryan Whitney]

Did you bum yourself out when you put it on? You're like. I mean, just put on. And you're like, oh, I. When I saw it, like, I was.

[Big Cat]

About to put it on, I was.

[Hank]

Like, someone's probably gonna say shit to me today.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it's 10 in the morning, and they already did.

[Hank]

It's 11:30.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's 11:30 in the morning.

[Ryan Whitney]

Damn. All right, Numbers with all the boys. Everyone's here.

[Big Cat]

I'll stick with five. 36.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'll go with three memes. What was the number you just picked? 48. All right, I'll go 48.

[Big Cat]

94.

[PFT Commenter]

Pug.

[Big Cat]

23, 21.

[Ryan Whitney]

11. What did I pick? Memes. 48. Oh, 40. Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

So close, huh?

[Hank]

It's one of my numbers.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wait for these little.

[Big Cat]

Sa.