Booger McFarland Talking NFL And CFB, JMU Got Screwed In The Latest Rankings, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

Summary

Pardon My Take: Booger McFarland Talking NFL and CFB, JMU Got Screwed In The Latest Rankings, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

Date: November 19, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Booger McFarland

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the controversial College Football Playoff (CFP) rankings—highlighting James Madison University's snub—breaks down the state of NFL and college football teams, and brings on ESPN’s Booger McFarland for insight, banter, and some classic donut-eating. The podcast also features their signature segments: Hot Seat/Cool Throne and "Guys on Chicks," delivering sports takes with humor, skepticism, and the personalities only PMT can provide.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. James Madison (JMU) and the College Football Playoff "Screw Job"

Start: 02:24

• JMU’s Case:

  • PFT Commenter rails against the committee’s exclusion of undefeated JMU.

    “It's a travesty. It's a sham mockery. It's a Travis shamockery. It's disgusting, it's not right. It's an infringement upon our constitution, which James Madison wrote, by the way.” (PFT Commenter, 02:49)

  • The main committee critique: "no high quality wins," but PFT picks apart transitive scores and strength of schedule logic, highlighting JMU’s real improvement after early setbacks and a now-healthy QB (“We're kicking the shit out of people.” 04:58).
  • Suggests committee bias in favor of the American Conference winner regardless of circumstances.
  • Hints at possible CFP committee conflicts of interest:

    “His son is the tight ends coach for App State. App State, who we just emasculated on Saturday... That's gonna be an awkward Thanksgiving.” (PFT Commenter, 05:53–06:24)

• "The Owl Gauntlet" & Rooting Interests:

  • JMU backers are now huge Temple fans, hoping for Temple to upset Tulane and disrupt the committee’s narrative.
  • Some playful paranoia about the committee giving the “group of five” slot to whichever American team is up next in line.

2. Reviewing the College Football Playoff Rankings

Start: 08:24

• Selection Logic:

  • Big Cat critiques the committee for erratic rankings, especially around Miami’s steady climb despite mediocre wins:

    “I actually think it's like a group of people who don't really watch college football and they're kind of dumb...” (Big Cat, 08:24)

  • Wild playoff bracket scenarios discussed, with Big Cat excited to see the new expanded playoff format pan out.

• Winners & Chaos Scenarios:

  • Georgia and Texas Tech are “big winners” of the current bracket projection (10:31).
  • Doomsday scenarios exist, like a six-way tie in the ACC—which both hosts would love to see (“That would be awesome,” PFT Commenter, 15:46).
  • Miami, Duke, other ACC schools all part of complicated bowl calculus and potential tiebreakers.

3. Monday Night Football Recap: Raiders Are a "Tough Watch"

Start: 23:59

• Pete Carroll & the Raiders:
  • PFT Commenter jokes Pete Carroll is chewing more gum because of how little fun he’s having coaching this season.
  • A lament for Max Crosby ("so good," but wasted on a bad team).
  • Discussion of Cowboys resting their top receivers to start the game, treating the Raiders “like Bethune Cookman”—an ultimate sign of disrespect.
  • “Blacklist” segment: which NFL teams deserve to be banned from primetime (“should be against the law to put the Raiders on primetime television.” PFT Commenter, 29:50)

4. NFL and Team Futures: Tanking Solutions and Hot Takes

Start: 35:22

• Tanking Rule Proposal:

  • Nick Tarani’s idea: Teams must win at least 4 games to qualify for the #1 draft pick—intended to end late-season tanking with actual stakes for bad teams.
  • Audience reaction mixed; more practical for the NBA than the NFL given league dynamics.

• Mock Draft Misery:

  • PFT on being a “mock draft guy:”

    “Being a mock draft guy is a tough existence. It really is. It's like a whole new world that you have to step into.” (38:00)

5. Podcast Banter: Cleaning for Thanksgiving & Life Talk

Start: 31:01

• Hilarious, relatable detour into prepping for family visits and the stress of “deep cleaning” apartments for Thanksgiving.

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Booger McFarland Interview

Start: 69:37

1. NFL Contenders and Trust Issues

• Who Does Booger Trust?

  "I don't know if I really trust anybody... If you force me, I'd probably say the Rams. Matthew Stafford is playing at an MVP level. On the AFC side, I love Daniel Jones in resurrection, but do we really trust him in a big game?" (Booger, 71:54)

• Chiefs dynasty is on the ropes:

  “If the Chiefs lose to the Colts this Sunday, they're missing the playoffs.” (Booger, 81:02)

2. Eagles’ Diva Wide Receiver Dynamics

• A.J. Brown’s “diva” behavior discussed. Booger compares it to keeping a significant other happy:

  "It's very similar to how we keep our significant others happy. You make them feel good... Because to your point, AJ Brown is getting the ball just as much as he did last year. However, he seems to be unhappy." (Booger, 74:05)

• Suggests a growing NFL issue: when the quarterback is paid the most but isn’t the team’s best player, it can destabilize locker rooms.

3. The Rookie QB Roundtable

• Cam Ward, Jackson Dart, and more:

  "Cam Ward has zero weapons and he's not a runner, so he hasn't been able to make some of the plays that Jackson Dart has with his legs... Jackson Dart has to realize, man, like, how many running quarterbacks live to be like 10 year running quarterbacks? Like, when you are running quarterback, the shelf life doesn't last long." (Booger, 84:35)

4. Coaching Carousel & College Hires

• James Franklin to Virginia Tech:

  "I love it. James has coached in that area... That area of the country. He understands very well." (Booger, 86:29)

• Penn State’s next coach? Booger strongly backs Pat Fitzgerald:

  “Pat Fitzgerald. Period, point blank... I listened to him talk for 30 minutes on a podcast, and I was ready to suit up.” (Booger, 89:30)

• LSU’s next hire: “The next coach at LSU has to embrace the culture. Saying y'all and family can't be something that has to be taught to you on the way to the press conference.”

5. Booger’s College Football Playoff Outlook

• Georgia is “back”:

  "Kirby Smart's the best coach in America. He gets it... At some point, Georgia's going to line up and they're going to beat the hell out of you." (Booger, 93:52)

• On Oklahoma:

  "They can't run the football... When you go against the best teams, your flaws show." (Booger, 95:16)

• College Football Playoff contenders (his short list):

  “Ohio State, Georgia, Indiana, Notre Dame, Alabama.” (Booger, 97:55)

• JMU as group-of-five rep:

  “JMU is the best team. I thought it was going to be South Florida, but they couldn't stop Navy... What you may wind up having is James Madison at Georgia.” (Booger, 105:30)

6. Life as a Football Player in November

• On player health late in the season:

  “So quarterbacks are probably about 85, 90%, most of them, because they rarely ever get hit. Offensive and defensive linemen are probably 75%... But there's a rule of thumb, all right? If you step on the field, there's no excuses. You got to show up and be ready to play.” (Booger, 108:15)

7. Chicago Bears Check-In

• Are the Bears good?

  “They are well coached... They're a good team. I put them in tier 2 right now.” (Booger, 110:00)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the JMU snub:

  "It's a travesty. It's a sham mockery. It's a Travis shamockery. It's disgusting, it's not right." (PFT, 02:49)

• On prepping Thanksgiving home:

  "You got to have a room that has a little bit of space for the piles to just go into temporarily." (PFT, 32:55)

• On NFL tanking solutions:

  “Teams should have to win four games to get the first pick... At the end of the season, you have a Raiders Monday Night Football game that has actual consequences.” (Big Cat, 35:39)

• On the NFL’s "Blacklist":

  "There should be a blacklist of teams that at this point... should no longer be considered for primetime." (PFT, 29:36)

• Booger’s donut banter:

  "Based on a picture I saw this weekend where you had your shirt off illegal... You have no reason to call anybody fat." (Booger, 70:27)

• On being a great football coach:

  “If your coach is playing more than 20 rounds a year, then you got the wrong coach.” (Booger, 92:41)

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Segment Timestamps

| Time | Segment | |------|---------| | 02:24 | JMU/CFP “screw job” rant & playoff rankings | | 13:46 | “Chaos scenarios” and playoff bracketology | | 23:59 | Monday Night Football recap (Raiders, Cowboys, etc.) | | 35:22 | NFL tanking discussion and fan proposals | | 31:01 | Thanksgiving cleaning & relationship life talk | | 69:37 | Booger McFarland Interview starts | | 71:54 | NFL contenders/dynasties | | 74:05 | Diva WRs & Eagles dynamic | | 84:35 | Rookie QBs (Ward, Dart) | | 86:29 | Franklin to Virginia Tech, coaching carousel | | 93:52 | CFP, Georgia, Oklahoma, playoff contenders | | 102:28 | Texas in/out, scheduling philosophy | | 105:04 | Group-of-five playoff slot logic | | 108:15 | Football player health in November | | 110:00 | Are the Bears good? | | 113:46 | Guys on Chicks segment | | 122:57 | Lottery Balls Game |

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Hot Seat/Cool Throne Highlights

Start: 45:59

• Memorable Hot Seat:

  • Max, for Italian pasta tariffs threatening his favorite foods.
  • Draymond Green (for fan interaction).
  • Lawrence Taylor (for being wise not to give his number).

• Notable Cool Thrones:

  • Jake Paul, for taking a dangerous fight against Anthony Joshua.
  • Cam “Scatterboo”—for being too active on the sideline while injured.

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"Guys on Chicks" Segment (Listener Q&A)

Start: 113:46

• Categories Covered:
  • Hotel bathroom snobbery on road trips.
  • Boyfriends buying too many guitars and gambling instead of saving for an apartment.
  • Proposal expectations and Jumbotron etiquette.
  • Microwaving food: is using your nose to gauge temperature a superpower or red flag?
  • Hosts offer practical and hilarious advice, keeping the segment on-brand with self-deprecating adulting commentary.

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Episode Tone & Style

The energy is high, sarcasm is frequent, and tangents abound. The hosts riff on sports, life, relationships, and pop culture in their signature style—equal parts knowledgeable, irreverent, and relatable. When Booger joins, the banter is playful, chalked with friendly insults and locker-room honesty.

Standout Tone Example:

“Whatever happened to staring at a girl across the bar, locking eyes with her once, never talking to her and then going home, being like, yeah, I could have her.” (Big Cat, 61:03)

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In Summary

• JMU’s playoff snub takes center stage, with the hosts dissecting the committee’s logic and venting fan frustration.
• College Football Playoff scenarios: chaos looms in multiple conferences, expanded playoff brings new intrigue.
• NFL talk: disrespect for prime-time slotting of bad teams, Chiefs dynasty teetering, and the agony/ecstasy of team futures in November.
• Booger McFarland delivers detailed CFB and NFL analysis, with candid takes on everything from coaching hires to player health.
• Classic PMT segments: life advice, relationship banter, and unpredictable humor keep the episode fun and engaging for diehard fans and casual listeners alike.

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PMT’s verdict:
If you like sports takes that combine passion, skepticism, and humor, this episode brings it—especially if you care about wild college football playoff debates, NFL chaos, or just a good donut joke.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Booger McFarland]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

And M. Yeah, Martin M. Yeah, Martin M. Ye.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, November 19th, and James Madison University has been screwed by the committee.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a. It's a screw job. The fix is in. About to go January 6th on the CFP. This is bad. It's bad, big cat, for a few reasons.

[Big Cat]

Number one, it's sham.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a travesty. It's a sham mockery. It's a Travis shamockery. It's disgusting, it's not right. It's an infringement upon our constitution, which James Madison wrote, by the way. They seem to really be hammering home the line that JMU doesn't have any high quality wins. We played one Power 4 conference game this year, which we lost to Louisville. Miami also lost to Louisville. Looks like they might have been dinged a little bit on that in terms of where they're sat. But without, without like just going full on nuclear, which I can do. I think that what is happening right now is they had their heart set on the American on that conference. Whoever wins that conference is going to get just pigeonholed in. Doesn't matter what else happens. Listen, Tulane lost by 22 points to UTSA. They lost by 22 points to UTSA. We don't have a common opponent with Tulane, so you can't play apples to apples. But I can do the transitive property and I can say that Texas State beat UTSA 43 to 36. JMU beat Texas State 52 to 20. And what the committee has always done is at least, you know, since the, since the tournament expanded, they've taken into account the health of your team, famously with, with Florida State a couple years ago. That matters to them if your star players are injured or if they're healthy. And in week two when we played against Louisville, which by the way, we, we had a halftime lead against Louisville. Can't say the same thing about Miami. We had a starting quarterback, Alonzo Barnett, who is a great quarterback. He's playing awesome ball right now. He tore his ACL in the very last game of last year. So he's like eight months recovered from the ACL surgery in that game. He can't run. They sub him out whenever we need to have a quarterback that can run. And then over the course of the season he's gotten healthier. Now he's running in addition to passing. He's a different quarterback, we're a different offense. We're kicking the shit out of people. So I mean, yeah, you can say that. We've got a bad schedule. It's down year for the Sun Belt. I agree with that. I'm not gonna like try to gas up the Sun Belt. That's, that's impossible to do. But we're kicking the, out of every team that we play. We're top 10 offense, we're top 10 defense. All the graphs were top to the right on all of them. And yeah, two Lane beat Duke. You know who else beat Duke? Yukon.

[Big Cat]

Everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone. So if we're gonna, if we're gonna like pin that and put that up on a pedestal now I can get. I don't want to go there, but I will go there. There's a new head of the CFP committee, Mac Rhodes from Baylor stepped down. We don't know what happened there. Something weird. Sounds like there's some weird stuff going on. Baylor. So the new guy that they have.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Baylor. Can you believe it?

[Big Cat]

No, never.

[PFT Commenter]

So the new guy is Hunter Urichek and he is the athletic director at Arkansas. I did just about 15 minutes of research on this guy.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

His son is the tight ends coach for App State. App State, who we just emasculated on Saturday. Guess how many yards receiving App State tight ends had against jmu?

[Big Cat]

Zero.

[PFT Commenter]

Negative zero. They had zero catches for zero yards. So how, how bad of a coach does he think his son is that we just kicked the out of them.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

That's got to start some cop. That's gonna be an awkward Thanksgiving.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's, that's facts. Like he got his, he got his ass kicked by a team that's not even worthy of getting ranked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yikes.

[PFT Commenter]

You believe that? Can you believe that? So, yeah, I've said my piece. I don't really have, I don't even have anything else really to add. I, I think that the record speaks for itself. I think JMU should be in it. But it seems pretty clear that they just want to put whoever wins the American as the group of five rep. And that's their, that's their prerogative. They can do that if they want.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. So, so I, I agree with you. I've been, I've been fighting the fight on the front lines with jmu. I, I, I, it's, they're going to, they just want to find a way. We now are the biggest Rice Owl fans, I believe is who Tulane is playing Temple. No, wait. No, I think it's right. Are they playing Temple this weekend?

[PFT Commenter]

Temple? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. They're playing Temple. Okay. So there were the biggest Temple Owl fans. Temple's actually been a frisky team this year. Yeah, they're, they're running the Owl Gauntlet because they just played fau. Can they go back to back Owls?

[PFT Commenter]

Who can do that?

[Big Cat]

Who, who can do that? Yes. So they're playing Temple. Then they finish with Charlotte. Charlotte is garbage. Temple's not bad. They're, they're, they're at least frisky. So we're rooting against Tulane it's it. Listen, not personal, just business. If you're a two lane fan, you're listening to this. Not personal, just business.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then we also have to root against North Texas and ECU because that's what they're just going to keep doing. They're going to keep going down the line of American teams and the next one's up.

[PFT Commenter]

They probably will. And this is going to be. Yeah, it's going to be a situation where we cross our fingers, root for Temple. And then at the same time, you know, you just got to go out and you got to beat Washington State if you're JMU this weekend by 50 points.

[Big Cat]

Also, I forgot Navy. They're going to do. They're going to jump to Navy. They probably would absolutely jump to Navy. You know they would.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd have a hard time digging up dirt about Navy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Other, other thoughts from the rankings. So you mentioned Miami. It's very funny because I do think that these rankings are the as much as like it still doesn't matter because things are going to get worked out. I love these rankings because I actually think it's like a group of people who don't really watch college football and they're kind of dumb and they just. So Miami, if you look at Miami, they would be in the playoff right now because it'd be the highest ACC team. Miami went from 18 to, I think they're now ranked 13 in the last couple of weeks. They didn't really do anything. They played bad teams. But I think that the, the committee is just admitting, oh, we kind of fucked up on the first time we ranked Miami. We shouldn't have done that. We, they beat Notre Dame. That's eight spots higher than them. Let's just every week slip them in a little bit more. And now Miami would be in the playoffs. So right now if you, if the playoff were to start today based on the rankings, it would be one seed Ohio State, two seed Indiana. They obviously have to play in the Big Ten championship game. Three seed Texas A and M, four seed Georgia. Those are your four buys. Then it would be five seed Texas Tech playing two lane at the 12 seed Notre Dame going to Norman, Oklahoma, nine eight Miami going to Ole Miss. That's the 11, six. And then Alabama and Oregon is the 10 seven. It's all, it's an awesome bracket to look at. I'd be very excited to watch this with this college football playoff. The big winners though out of this pft. I don't know if you agree, but the Winner number one is Georgia because Georgia obviously beats Texas. They get to four. Georgia's in that perfect spot where they could potentially not go to the SEC championship game and have a buy, which that's got to be the greatest spot you could ever be in because Alabama beat Georgia. Yeah, if Alabama go wins, you know, the wins the rest of their. They just had to beat Auburn. I think they play no. 1 this week. They had to beat Auburn. Texas A and M wins out. Texas A and M and Alabama in the SEC championship game. Georgia can sit at home and be like, but we still get a buy. That's perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a great situation for him. Alabama fans, they don't seem to be too happy with the way things shook out. But I mean, you can just blame yourselves. Yeah, you lost. That's what happens when you have a.

[Big Cat]

Recent loss and also the Florida State loss. I know that Florida State, you know, look good at the beginning of the season, but that team has been garbage. So that's a tough loss. And I know teams change, but that's just that, that's just the case here. And then the other big winner to me is Texas Tech. Because if Indiana and Ohio State, when they play in the Big Ten championship game, if Texas Tech can win the Big 12 championship game, I would imagine Indiana, the loser of the Indiana Ohio State game, might drop out to the five seed in Texas Tech. If they can win, would. Would slip up into the buy.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually don't. I think that it all depends on what the loss looks like. But if it's a close game at all, like within 10 points, I don't think that Indiana would drop out if.

[Big Cat]

Tex Texas only has one loss. So there would be. It would be a one loss Big 12 champion versus a one loss runner up in the Big Ten.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think, I think they keep Indiana in there. The. The other thing I was looking at was Oregon. So Oregon. What happens if Oregon loses this weekend?

[Big Cat]

If Oregon loses this weekend, usc, they could be in trouble.

[PFT Commenter]

They could be in trouble because the one win that they have on their schedule that's really doing a lot of work is the Penn State win, which Iowa recently. But the one that's doing that's like keeping. That's like they're dangling on if they lose this game. And the reason why is because that Penn State win. I think the committee is still valuing that Penn State win as being a quality win because it's back, which I.

[Big Cat]

Have no problem with.

[PFT Commenter]

Penn State was good. It was a great game. And when I was watching it, I definitely didn't think to myself, oh shit, Penn State sucks. It was before all the wheels fell off for him. But if you're looking for an argument against Oregon if they lose this weekend, that's where you go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, I, the, the, the counter argument would be what is usc. Obviously if USC beats them head to head, they would, maybe they would take their spot. But USC doesn't have a signature. I mean, their signature wins are pretty similar. You know what I mean? They beat Michigan at home, they beat Iowa at home. Oregon beat Iowa on the road. They beat Penn State on the road. But yeah, the head to head will obviously determine that. Cause I'm a big believer and you gotta play it on the grass. So if they lose, tough luck. But yeah, it will be. It's, it's looking more and more like it's going to be a 3, 3 bid league for the Big Ten. 4 to 5 for the SEC, 1 for ACC. Notre Dame's gonna obviously get in there. Notre Dame's just gonna stay at the, the same spot. I think they're gonna, I think they've just been at nine for a while now, which makes sense because I don't think they should go up much higher. They haven't. They're not gonna have a big data point to be like, oh, wow, but Notre Dame should be in the playoff. I do think they're one of the playoff worthy teams. But yeah, those are the big takeaways.

[PFT Commenter]

The, the, your check guys said that he's not even thinking about Notre Dame and Miami. They're. The comparison between the two schools is not happening inside of his own brain because they're not close enough to each other in the rankings for him to compare one to the other.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is what, you should compare the other.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, you should. You should. Absolutely. They played on the field.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They need Miami to lose again is what, is what they're saying. Yes, they, they need.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you're right about that. I think that when they made the first rankings, they didn't really think it all the way through.

[Booger McFarland]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And then many people pointed out to them online and they're like, oh, they kind of have a point. Let's see what we can do to just kind of tread water and hope that this takes care of itself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And the thing that's going to get interesting, there's like definitely some chaos scenarios that are going to cause some problems for the committee. One being Michigan beating Ohio State and being two losses. If that is in conjunction with USC beating Oregon. Now you. What are you going to do there? Another being, you know, Vanderbilt beats Tennessee and wins out the season, only has two losses. If, if BYU somehow gets revenge on Texas Tech, like there could be a world where they have just a lot of spots and, or a lot of teams and not a lot of spots and they'll be kind of fucked there. And that's where Notre Dame could get fucked.

[PFT Commenter]

So there's, there's another doomsday scenario. I love doomsday scenarios. It's my favorite part of this time of year when we're like just thinking ahead to what the bracket might look like. The ACC has a major one. That's just a, it's a ticking time bomb.

[Big Cat]

We've moved on from Duke. We forgot Duke was just a shitty team because they got absolutely smashed by Virginia. I watched the majority of that game and it was. They are just not a good team, the acc.

[PFT Commenter]

They could have a six way tie for first.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be, that would be awesome. I think it's Miami, smu, Virginia, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Duke could all tie for first place in the acc.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not that crazy. It's not that crazy.

[Big Cat]

Duke is not going to win out. I'm done with Duke.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, dude, you don't think Duke could beat North Carolina?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they absolutely could be North Carolina. But then they have to play week force. Duke is bad. I'm done with Duke. I'm done with Duke. In any scenarios.

[PFT Commenter]

Duke has a chance to be Wake Forest, though it wouldn't be the craziest thing.

[Big Cat]

No, of course they do. But I'm done with Duke. I'm telling you right now. I'm done with Duke scenarios because I just can't. They're. They're just, they're five and five. They're. They're not a good team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Miami, they just have to win out. They have to beat Virginia Tech. They have Pitt. If SMU loses one of their next two games, they could very easily lose to Louisville. If Virginia, that's really the main one. If Virginia loses to Virginia Tech. Now that one, Virginia is much, much better than Virginia Tech. But it is like a true. These two teams hate each other type game. I don't know. Maybe, maybe the program is. It gets a shot in the arm from just having James Franklin's name put on the door.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then pit if they split between Miami and Georgia Tech. And then if Georgia Tech, if they lose to Pitt, then all those schools will be 6 and 2.

[Big Cat]

Okay. The ACC most Likely will just fuck itself over. And I. The ACC just cannibalizes itself no matter what. Like, whatever the, Whatever the worst outcome for the ACC is, that's the one they'll find a way to have happen.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's basketball season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is basketball season. Watching the Boozer twins. Are they. They are actually twins, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And Cameron was named after the stadium.

[Big Cat]

No way. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a fact.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we said it with. Last. Last week with Jokim Noah that it's, it's definitely a. I feel old because I remember, like, seeing Carlos boozers Instagram stories nine years ago when they were little kids, like, in his driveway taking shots.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we have.

[Big Cat]

Here they are.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we have some breaking moves.

[Big Cat]

Oh, breaking Moose. Hank, you gonna do it? No. What are you doing? Hank?

[Hank]

What? What's it about?

[Big Cat]

Hank, you gotta move.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I don't know. We don't.

[Big Cat]

I know Hank is worried about it being something. If we're talking about the acc. Is it breaking moves about the acc?

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's just breaking moves about something else. What is Hank worried about?

[Big Cat]

He's worried that you're gonna bring up Belichick at Jordan's adult cheerleading competition.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually haven't seen that yet, but now.

[Booger McFarland]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Double breaking news.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you know. You know what's so funny? Do you know what's so funny? Is that I saw that picture like, an hour ago, and it. I could. I don't know why. It just went out of my brain. Because we were getting ready, and if Hank hadn't had that face, I would not have thought of it. But the minute Hank had that face, I was like, oh, I forgot that I saw a picture of Bill Belichick standing. Sadly for. I didn't know.

[PFT Commenter]

He's intently watching.

[Hank]

He's intently watching.

[Big Cat]

I didn't know they did cheerleading competitions. Like, rec. Cheerleading competitions. That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

It's serious stuff.

[Big Cat]

Is it? It's not even. They're not cheering for a team. They're cheering. Just play softball, dude. That's a difference. That's just so. Cheerleading. Whoa, whoa. I don't do. I don't do sports where there's judges, I guess. Boxing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Ufc.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That hurt. My, my, my. Well, so, Hank, why didn't you want us to bring it up?

[Hank]

No, I just. I, I, that's not what I was talking about.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

My mic was muted.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

Pft.

[Big Cat]

What's your breaking moves? Are you looking at the pictures? Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm looking at right now. They're very funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very funny. Look, he's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's supporting Code Black. Yeah. Good.

[Hank]

He's locked in.

[Big Cat]

And we. We are team Jordan on this podcast. And our queen, if she wants to go and. And play cheerleading on a Tuesday night at the local ymca, she should.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you gamble on it? I'd like to bet on it.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait. What if that's our punishment for the. For the picks? What loser has to go join a. A rec. Cheerleading squad?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think they'd have us. I think you got to be able to. To.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[Hank]

No respect for the cheerleading community.

[Big Cat]

That would be so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. Bill's being a good guy here. He's a good.

[Hank]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know why every time I call him a boyfriend, it's very funny.

[Big Cat]

It's so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

He's being a great boyfriend. No, that was not my break. My breaking moves. It was. Hank, do you want to do the. The noise? Jamar Chase's appeal of his one game suspension has been denied.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I already denied it, so that's good. I was. I was still feeling it from the. From the Internet invitation. I was just denying. But that's good that it was denied because I. I concur.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I don't know what his appeal looked like. He was like. His appeal must have just been. Please.

[Big Cat]

He did the O.J. i feel like his appeal. I actually. I don't know what. Yeah. What his appeal actually looked like.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you.

[Hank]

I do what he said.

[PFT Commenter]

If I wanted to spit on him, I would have spat on his face, not on his uniform.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would have done a simple. Like, here all the times Jalen Ramsey was a dick. Like, you could have just gone that route, been like, hey, look, someone was gonna spit on him. Eventually it happened to be me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like. I like that he said if I really wanted to spit. I'm way better at spitting than that. And I would have drilled him in the face if I wanted to.

[Big Cat]

So, Hank, what does this do to the Patriots schedule?

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't.

[Big Cat]

I just.

[Hank]

I just think it's a more opportunity for Drake May. 300 plus 350 plus, probably.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll get to it. We'll get to that. Yeah. Don't spoil the stats, Hank.

[Hank]

No, I'm just talking about what it.

[Big Cat]

Means for the game. Just means we'll have more time. Chase is a big deal.

[Hank]

Yeah. It's a shame. It's a shame you want to beat people at their best.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Football we had to watch the Raiders play football. I am sick of watching the Raiders play football. I have a question for you. Pft Is Pete Carroll having fun?

[PFT Commenter]

No, he's not having fun. He's not having any fun. He the I can tell because the amount of gum that he chews during a game is way higher. Yeah, usually he's got like one thin stick of of Juicy Fruit in his mouth. Now it's like he's got three Bazooka Joe's in there just trying to distract him from it. He was surprised that the Raiders didn't play. Well. Yeah, I get halftime they asked him about. He's like, I did not expect this to happen. I don't know what team. Pete Carroll's I expected it to happen.

[Big Cat]

I expected to happen. Not only that, but I think I saw in this game something I haven't seen in a while. Where before halftime, the Monday Night Football camera crew was doing the sad Raiders on The sideline.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, they're showing Geno Smith looking sad.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

I feel bad for Max Crosby. Max Crosby is so good. And Max Crosby. I feel like in this season, the 2 and 8 Raiders, there's been at least a moment in every single game where you're like, is Max Crosby going to win this game by himself? And he had it at the beginning of the game when he forced that fumble. And then you realize, oh, yeah, the Raiders just stink and they can't move the ball. And Ash and Genti, are we worried about him or were we right about him? I think he had six carries for seven yards.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think there's no way to tell.

[Big Cat]

I think that.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Ashen Genti is good. I think that he's an impossible situation. They keep showing that stat of he. How he's the. The. The one player in the NFL that like he has the fewest yards before contact.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Of any player maybe in NFL history because he's always getting in the backfield. He almost made it out when they got that safety called on him.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

He got hit like six yards, five yards deep in the end zone almost. I think he's good. I just think that right now, having a running back on that team, you don't really use him because you never are playing with the league there. Even playing with the tie, there was.

[Big Cat]

A fourth and one, I believe in the third or fourth quarter where Ashton Genti got the ball and got the first down, but it was like the most miraculous first down ever because every single Cowboy was in the backfield ready to go and. No, Yeah, I agree with you. Like, I think he's going to be fine. It's just an impossible spot for him on a team that cannot block, that cannot play with a lead, that can't do anything offensive.

[PFT Commenter]

He might be the best player on that team.

[Big Cat]

I think that's probably still Brock Bowers, but. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy that. That he's. He has literally no chance to run the football. We just don't know if he's good or not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm pretty sure that he is now with the Cowboys. It feels like last night was obviously for a number of reasons, like a. A super emotional win for them, dealing with the loss of their teammate and all that, like, credit to. To Schottenheimer and Dakota that seemed like they were the ones that kind of took on the leadership roles. They did a pretty. A really good job of that and the team. Offensively, we know that the Cowboys are Great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like. And they looked really, really good last night. Like, Pickens is so good when he's making those cuts. It's so infuriating if you're a coach and you're like, watching him cut backwards all the time, but he's the guy that will get eventually to the outside and then, you know, go on a little run and make a few guys miss and get downfield once he feels like it. He's awesome. CD Lamb should have had another touchdown, too. Dak played out of his mind. The whole offense is so good. The defense even looked good last night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they've looked a little bit better.

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it was the Raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

Now they have a. A really hard schedule coming up. They have to play the Eagles, the Chiefs. I think the Lions are up in one of their few next games here, too, so it's not inconce they're not eliminated from the playoffs. But I do think that they're playing like a playoff team would right now.

[Big Cat]

They're. They're. Well, they did remember the last time we saw them play was against the Cardinals and they got killed by the Cardinals. Right. Playing like a playoff team would. Against the Raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

Against the Raiders.

[Big Cat]

Against the Raiders. I'd agree with that. It was total insult to injury for the Raiders that. I don't remember the last time I've seen this where CD Lamb and George Pickens got sussied for the first series. Which is something you do if you are Alabama playing, you know, Bethune Cookman.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Week one. And you're like, oh, yeah, our guy missed a meeting. We're going to let him sit out for the first drive. The Cowboys like, yeah, we're going to let our two best receivers sit out. And we know it won't matter because I don't even know why did they sit out. Was it just, guys can't have fun in Vegas anymore?

[PFT Commenter]

They won't say. And I actually think this is a. You can look at Schottenheimer and be like, this guy has the pulse of the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because after the game, they asked Pickens about, and he was like, you know, we just saw something on offense against that defense that we want to run the football a little bit more. So we started out with me and CD on the sideline, like, he bought the line. He's. He's. George Pickens is towing the company line.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Proactively. Which is something I thought I'd never say. And then CD Kind of just like smirked and was like, I'm not going to get into that with you guys, but they're not saying what the reason was. My. My imagination took me to some places where it's like, this is the plot of the Hangover.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where, like, they woke up in the morning and they lost their friend or they woke up in the morning there was a tiger inside the hotel room. I don't know. Something happened in Vegas and it was probably a great time. I want to know the whole backstory behind, like, what did CD Lamb and George Pickens get into a night on the town in Las Vegas where I'm guessing they missed a meeting.

[Big Cat]

Right. And it was. It's so insulting for the Raiders. Like, the Cowboys are not going to. Most likely not going to go to the playoffs unless they pull off a bunch of miracles coming down the stretch. But it is a team that is like, hey, we're not statistically out of it. We have to win every game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Our two best players on offense are going to sit out and we'll just deal with it like, it's crazy. But that's what the Raiders are. They didn't have to worry about it at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I agree. The Raiders. There should be a blacklist of teams that at this point, I'd say after like, 10 weeks in the NFL season, fans should be able to vote on which teams should no longer be considered for primetime.

[Big Cat]

They don't have to play the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It should be against the law to put the Raiders on. On primetime television.

[Big Cat]

The. The Raiders. The Titans. The Saints. Who else?

[PFT Commenter]

The Browns. Get him out of here.

[Big Cat]

I'm like, jets are kind of exciting. Cardinals.

[PFT Commenter]

Cardinals.

[Big Cat]

Cardinals. Kobe Verset. He kind of lights it up. 47. Dude. He broke the record for completions. They're not good.

[Hank]

He's not a draw.

[Big Cat]

They don't win.

[Hank]

You don't want to watch him in prime time.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

I'd put Baby.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Commanders are on that list. I would put the Dolphins on that list.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Falcons.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get them out of here.

[Big Cat]

Definitely. Yeah. So that. That was big news, too. Michael Penix is going to maybe miss the rest of the season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So Kirk Cousins is back.

[PFT Commenter]

Gets to earn that paycheck.

[Big Cat]

He gets to earn that paycheck. Yeah, that. Yeah. So to put a ball on Monday Night Football. I. I'm done with the Raiders. We all agree. Tough watch. Max, you did not watch running football. You watched the Leo movie. Do we have a review?

[Max]

Didn't watch the Leo movie.

[Big Cat]

What did you watch?

[Max]

It was. Apparently last night. Was deep cleaning my apartment night.

[Big Cat]

So the Football was on. At what point how many times have.

[Hank]

You deep cleaned your apartment?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, at what point?

[Max]

I don't get to choose when I deep clean my apartment.

[Big Cat]

So. So. So here's a question. You don't get it. This is very, you know, get it. Here's the question, though. I actually don't. This is because I host Thanksgiving. This is gonna. I'm gonna. I'm staring at that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was given a warning shot on Monday of like, hey, you got shit everywhere. You're gonna have to clean it up. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it.

[Max]

You have family visiting.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Weekend.

[Max]

And last night was the only night where I don't have stuff going on.

[Big Cat]

At what point in the night were you told that that was going to.

[Max]

Take place during dinner?

[Big Cat]

Like, yeah, that's. That's not fair. You needed at least a. You needed like a text during lunch, being like, hey, just a heads up, we're going to have to do some cleaning tonight.

[Max]

Well, to be fair, it was like, oh, we have to. We have family coming over this weekend. And it was like, when are we going to be able to do this? And then I started going through the rest of my week, and she was like, so it has to be tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like this is something that might have even been discussed, like, last week. Yeah, we're going to have to clean up.

[Max]

It also could have been discussed earlier that I. That I, you know, probably wasn't paying attention.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Max]

That's the most likely scenario.

[Big Cat]

There's. It's always you. You think that they don't. Aren't going to bring it up, but they're always going to bring it up because I have. I'm dealing with that right now. Like, where I just have. I have, I think, four piles that I could just count off the top of my head at various points in my house that I know are gonna. They're on life support. They are. They've been looked at, they've been stared at. They've been like, what's going on here? I think I have even a suitcase that still has shit in it. Those piles. I have sentimental value with them, but I know that, hey, guys, I'm gonna take you out back soon, and we're gonna have to do this. We're gonna have to get rid of these.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to have a room that. That has a little bit of space for the piles to just go into temporarily.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

We were searching for matching pillowcases because the. We have to get the guest room ready for family to stay in. And we, for some reason, we could not find the other. The, the full set of all the matching pillowcase. And then at one point, I was like, oh, this is definitely just in my pile in my closet. And that's where. That's exactly where they were. So I got yelled at for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm hosting, too, for Thanksgiving. And there's. There's some chores that are on my list. I think I'm just gonna try to use the power washer to do every chore that's still on the list.

[Big Cat]

Even inside.

[PFT Commenter]

Even inside my brain. Yeah. Like bathroom floor. Yeah, I'll just power.

[Max]

I chose to do the bathrooms because you can kind of just hide in the bathroom.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. And like, like, look at your phone. Yeah, I'm cleaning right now.

[Max]

That was. That was my role because I. I'm not supervised in the bathroom.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we got dishes. I'm going to power wash those. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Bring them on. Bring them all outside.

[PFT Commenter]

Your power wash.

[Big Cat]

Your power wash.

[PFT Commenter]

The show house is going to be spic and span.

[Big Cat]

Any other cleanup from week 11. So Aaron Rodgers is going to try to start on. On Sunday. That's what you saw. Memes the report. He's trying his hardest.

[Memes]

Mike Tomlin has a press conference right now. He's dropping.

[PFT Commenter]

He's dropping some quotes, which I give.

[Big Cat]

Us some quotes because that does scare me because I know Aaron wants to beat the Bears one last time. That does make me a little nervous. Even though I. I think Mason Rudolph is just. It's about the same as Aaron Rodgers currently.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I want to see exactly what Tomlin's saying here. He told reporters that, oh, you close out of it.

[Max]

That was not. That was a nothing.

[Big Cat]

He's a fracture in his wrist and we'll find out. He's trying to play on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

The wrist is the elbow of the hand.

[Big Cat]

Find us some Mike Tomlin quotes. We can talk about something else.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, there was a report yesterday, I think it was. It was about Mike Pennix and Rapaport and Schefter both tweeted the news out about Mike Penn. It's pretty much identical news. It was phrased differently. The report came out at the exact same second. How does that happen?

[Big Cat]

They both get texted from the same person.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they do, and then they, you know, they can copy and paste, but these words were different from each guy. And it happened at the. Literally the exact same second. Are they two different guys? Are they in cahoots with each other? I don't know did they agree? Let's schedule these tweets for this one exact minute.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're synced up.

[PFT Commenter]

It was, it was really bizarre. Something's going on and I want, I want to get to the bottom of it. Shefter, tell us what's happening. How is that like mathematically it's not.

[Big Cat]

Possible, but it happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Something fishy is going on.

[Big Cat]

It did happen.

[PFT Commenter]

We need to figure that out.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I have a dumb rule for you guys that our good friend Nick Tarani throughout to during Wake Up Barstool, which I, I actually I was thinking about it more and I, I, I like it a lot. He was saying dumb rule. Teams should have to win four games to get their first pick.

[PFT Commenter]

To get.

[Big Cat]

So at the end of the season you have a Raiders Monday Night Football game has actual consequences where it's like they need to desperately win this game.

[PFT Commenter]

To get a, a first round pick.

[Big Cat]

First tick, tick, tick. Get their allotted first round pick. They have to win four games. Maybe it's three games, but whatever. I, it's kind of, it's kind of what we've always said, like relegation is never going to happen in American sports. But that is a little bit of a relegation where it's like, you can't be that bad. It might work better in the NBA because the NBA, like, you know, teams truly tank in the NFL. They don't take the same way. Like I don't know if the Titans are capable of winning four games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You have some teams that, that go out there and, and they put forth an honest eff and really, really suck.

[Big Cat]

But at the end of the season when you do get these games that are in prime time that have no consequences, they will now have consequences.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I wouldn't hate three games. I wouldn't hate a sad playoff at the end of the year between every team that finishes with four losses or fewer and then the winner of that. Or just do the Pro bowl thing where you have the two worst teams that play in the Pro bowl and the winner gets the first round pick. Yeah, I kind of, I, I like that way.

[Big Cat]

What, what max that I like.

[Max]

That would be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, that would be the best. We've said that many times.

[Max]

There could be a lot of teams that don't get four wins this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So maybe it's three.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But like memes, imagine the investment you'd have in the jets coming down the stretch if you have two wins and you need to win a third game.

[Memes]

This is A terrible rule.

[Big Cat]

Okay, listen, I, I know, I know, but it is. Again, it might not be an NFL rule because it's hard to tank the NFL, but for other sports there's a, There's a floor on what you have to accomplish as a team to, to receive your first pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think it's more for the fans. Just like watch a game featuring your shitty team. That actually means something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That you have to win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that. It's not like the teams are going out there and they're not really committing the best effort. Because I feel like in the NFL there is incentive in terms of the non guaranteed contracts.

[Memes]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And you're trying to get a job for next season. It's hard to. It's really hard to actively tank in the NFL. I feel like most teams that are tanking are doing so because of incompetence.

[Booger McFarland]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Not because of effort.

[Big Cat]

So three I'm looking at right now. Three wins might be the number, which would be exciting because you have like what, six teams, seven teams at the two win mark right now. Yeah, they have to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to start getting on. I got to get deep into these mock drafts. I started reading some last week, some yesterday. Being a mock draft guy is a tough existence. It really is. It's like a whole new world that you have to step into. You had a tough go of it, Hank. That was.

[Big Cat]

It's real tough. That was rough.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. I'll save it for Friday, but I, I actually love the Patriots this weekend. Love them. I love them. I do.

[Big Cat]

Against the Bengals.

[PFT Commenter]

Against the Bengals. Yeah. I think it's going to be.

[Big Cat]

You want to save for Friday?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I'll say for Friday, sure.

[Hank]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Because I think it's going to be a blowout. I think that Drake May is going to go off on him. You look at what Drake May has done this season, he's. He's just lighting defenses up. He's like the king of the deep ball. He's getting yards against everybody and it doesn't matter what defense he's going up against, he's going to get his yards. He's elite at throwing downfield, huge chunk plays. And I think that this week against the Bengals, he's finally going to get 300 yards. I think that this is the week that it's going to happen and he's going to light him up for the first time in his career right now to see if he's going to have a 300 yard game and it's going to be awesome.

[Big Cat]

He's never had a 300 yard game.

[PFT Commenter]

He has not had a 300 yard game.

[Hank]

Who has the passing yards lead this year?

[Big Cat]

Is this Drake May.

[Hank]

I'm just, I don't actually know. Let's look that up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we can look it up. But I'm saying I, I'm picking the Patriots this week. Oh, yeah, I'm picking. Yeah, I'm picking Patriots this week.

[Hank]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is going to be the week where he goes for 300.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Hank]

I mean he's.

[PFT Commenter]

What's that?

[Max]

Have another buy.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they haven't had their buy yet. Yeah, that's a good point.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so per game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, per game.

[Big Cat]

Per game. He is not first. That would be Daniel, actually.

[Max]

I don't know if that's true. He still could be first.

[Big Cat]

No, he's not. I'm looking at right now.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Per game. Daniel Jones is 1. Patrick Mahomes is 2. Brock Purdy 3. Dak Prescott, 4. Drake May, 5.

[PFT Commenter]

That's great.

[Hank]

Top five. That's really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Top five. It's outstanding. And again I'm saying like he has been incredible this year. There's no arguing that.

[Big Cat]

Has he got. No. Can I get.

[Hank]

I'll, I'll take. I'm gonna get that clip. That was a great clip. I liked what you just said. Everything you just said.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's going to go for. I, I'm going to say 304 this week.

[Big Cat]

So not blow by it.

[PFT Commenter]

No. It's going to be a breakout performance.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And put a pin in that, Hank.

[Big Cat]

I will.

[Hank]

I'm with you. I'm riding. I'm, I'm happy. You've turned the corner.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the over under on his yards this weekend?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. You got to hammer.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to hammer it. Hammer it. Prop of the year 300 + prop of the year. I might, I might adjust it up to 300.

[Big Cat]

Might be Prop of the year. Yep. Matt or Memes is Tyrod Taylor your, your starting quarterback now?

[Memes]

He is the starting quarterback now because.

[Big Cat]

I saw Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn's doing this funny thing where people, the media does his press conference and then they ask him a question. He says, I don't know. Ask this reporter.

[PFT Commenter]

He said, ask Diana.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did that last week too about somebody's like, ask this guy.

[Memes]

Did he say it today?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he said, ask Diana.

[Memes]

I love Aaron Glennon versus press. He just hates press.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, I mean he was right.

[Memes]

He was right. Apparently he was going to the week Woody Johnson slandered Justin Fields. That was the week he was going to start Tyrod, but he was hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah.

[Memes]

So this was. This was always a plan. And now you have to evaluate everybody on your team to see if they're going to be on the team next year. So that's where you get Tyrod slinging the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

This is always the plan.

[Big Cat]

Always the plan.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see on the Manning cast last night who the guest was?

[Big Cat]

No. Oh, George Bush.

[PFT Commenter]

President George W. Bush was on the Manning cast. They've had now three war criminals on that show. Revel up next, I'm sure.

[Big Cat]

Who's the other two?

[PFT Commenter]

Condoleezza Rice.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Barack Obama.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So they're just loading it up. They're loading it up.

[Hank]

It was.

[Big Cat]

I saw that.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, this guy's gonna pitch a Saudi Arabian team. Let's put the Texans in the NFC Middle East.

[Big Cat]

The Manning cast got. They. They book some big time guests.

[PFT Commenter]

Huge guess, actually, I can't. I can't fault them for it. I would take George W. Bush on this show.

[Big Cat]

I would not. But I don't. I don't want to take any politicians.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I would have. I would love to interview George W. Bush baseball. Talk baseball with him. Can we. Can you go back in time and become commissioner? Baseball?

[Hank]

How many times has Jane Daniels gone for over 300.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, at least once.

[Big Cat]

How many?

[PFT Commenter]

I think. Well, I know he had 299 yards against the Lions in the playoffs. I know. But it was the second round of the playoffs to reach the NFC championship game, which is pretty crazy. And he had 299 yards. He had. I know he's had it. One time, I think it was against the Bears.

[Hank]

That would be it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So he had. Yeah. Solid one.

[PFT Commenter]

And now Drake gets to join the fraternity, I think.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the. How many yards was it against the bears?

[PFT Commenter]

300.

[Hank]

326.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so a lot of it was the tipped Hail Mary.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, that counts too.

[Big Cat]

It does.

[PFT Commenter]

He had a lot of drops, too. We're not counting the drops as yards that would have counted.

[Memes]

No.

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean, that's.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Really impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah. Drake gets to join. Welcome to the club, Drake.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to the club.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll have a big party for him.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Let's do Hot Sea Cool throne. This is fun. This is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank is now. Hank is now looking up spreadsheets.

[Big Cat]

How you got. No, I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the thing. Like, that's where it's like.

[Hank]

All you do is think about Drake, man. The Patriots I don't have to worry about you or Jane Daniels. Like, you guys are just a sad existence. It makes me laugh. You make me laugh. You're a funny guy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's great. Listen, hey, I'm believing in Drake May. I'm not thinking about Drake May, but when I see his prop of the year. Yeah, you. Yeah. On a Tuesday. Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Monday.

[Big Cat]

Who does that?

[Hank]

Worrying about Drake May and the Bengals game on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

If you learn how to gamble, first of all, maybe the Hungry Dog would hit every now and again.

[Hank]

Hungry Dogs up on the season.

[PFT Commenter]

Second of all.

[Big Cat]

Is it.

[PFT Commenter]

Second of all, the. You want to bet these games on a Tuesday before the lines move?

[Big Cat]

How many times you hit it?

[Hank]

Once? 15 to 1.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay. So it is still up, but it's getting. We're getting closer to not being up. Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, what's. Is Monday nights up on the season?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I never said they were.

[Hank]

I just. You wanted to say the Hungry Dog's not, but it is.

[Big Cat]

No, I mean, I. I didn't know that it was up because I. I didn't hit what that was.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is it. That was rude. Yeah, because you. I know you only hit it once. I didn't know what the odds were on.

[Hank]

That's the beauty of the Hungry Dog. It's got to hit twice, right? I'm gonna hit three times.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you are?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

If I can hit it once, can.

[Big Cat]

I bet against us? No hitting three times.

[Hank]

Yeah, bet against. Bet against it every week.

[Big Cat]

Well, I'd be up.

[PFT Commenter]

False.

[Big Cat]

Oh, have you gotten. How many times you gotten swept?

[Hank]

I don't know. I don't worry about that.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It could be not false.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Who's to say it's impossible.

[Hank]

We'll never know.

[PFT Commenter]

But you can just say no.

[Big Cat]

We'll never know.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, Hank, I. I just want. I want you to have the same faith in Drake that I have. That's all I'm asking.

[Hank]

I have the utmost face in Drake, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Let's do Hot seat, Cool Throne. Hot seat, Cool Throne. Brought to you by Twisted Tea. It's that time of year again. Thanksgiving's coming up, and you know what that means. Football food. And, of course, Twisted T. Twisted Tea is a refreshing, hard iced tea with 5% alcohol, meaning it's got the perfect kick to get you through running into your ex at the hometown bar or for when Uncle Rick starts telling the same story about his fantasy team for the fifth year in a row. It tastes like realized tea because it Actually is real brewed tea, plus no carbonation. That's key. You can drink these all day long at tailgates, friendsgiving, Thanksgiving Eve, or whenever you find yourself running off for a second away from Aunt Carol. I love twisted tea. I'm gonna drink some Thanksgiving week. Absolutely. We got a couple days off. Have some, watch some football, drink some twisted teas. You got the originals, you got the half and half. Pft. Loves. I love the peach as well. So this Thanksgiving, whether you're watching football, dodging relatives, or keeping the party rolling with the boys, make sure you've got a twisted tea in your hand and keep it twisted with twisted tea. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Hank.

[Hank]

Hostage is Max.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Hank]

Why Italian pasta?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

What happened?

[Hank]

There's.

[Max]

I know about this.

[Hank]

You know about this?

[Max]

Yep, I do.

[Hank]

Did you drop fall to your knees in a Walmart when you found out?

[Big Cat]

In a Walmart?

[Max]

A little extra.

[Hank]

But there's 13 major Italian pasta brands that might stop shipping to the US because of a tariff.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds.

[Big Cat]

Wait, which ones?

[Hank]

Pasta, Garofolo, La Mosa, Molisana, Rumo. It's like Agritalia, Adino, Anti. Antig, Tradizioni, Bara, Grupo Milo, Pacifico, Argentino.

[Big Cat]

So not the blue box.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's American pastafiso. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't even know what brand that is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Blue box or the red?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I need the blue box with the. I love the blue box because it has the window.

[PFT Commenter]

You see the pasta?

[Big Cat]

Oh, there's that pasta.

[PFT Commenter]

Guarantee you Jeff D. Lowe knows the exact.

[Max]

They all got the window. All like the. The major ones.

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be. This is a time where it'd be a real shame if a few cartons of those fell off a truck. Like there's a way to get around paying these high prices. So Max matters in your own hands.

[Big Cat]

Did you drop to your knees at Walmart?

[Max]

I just bought some fresh pasta last night.

[Hank]

Italiano.

[Max]

Did you say Italian?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Italiano.

[Max]

Yes, I did.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so if you buy fresh pasta, it's still going to be expensive, but the price isn't going up like fresh.

[Max]

Like places will make fresh pasta. Here, do you make the imported, like, from. From Italy pasta like dried pasta?

[Big Cat]

Why are they stopping that?

[Max]

Tariffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah, we're getting tariffs.

[Max]

A lot of tariffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Shit. You just have to pay tariffs on Jordan. My lotta too.

[Big Cat]

That'd be funny.

[PFT Commenter]

H1B visa forum. I don't know.

[Max]

No, thank you.

[Big Cat]

Okay, I. Here's something. Here's something I'm gonna say don't know enough about tariffs to have any opinion.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds.

[Big Cat]

Don't really understand them.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds fun. Like, it would be a fun time to be like, I'm gonna put a tariff on that.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I took Econ101, I think actually might not have. So. Yeah. I don't know. It's okay. Sometimes you just say you don't know and just walk away.

[Hank]

Talk. Live my life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All I know is that the pasta.

[Max]

I took an international business class.

[Big Cat]

Did you.

[Max]

I just remember it because it was at. It was like the 1 8am class I ever. I ever took, and it was terrible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That.

[Big Cat]

That Econ.

[Hank]

My cool throw is Lawrence Taylor.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Hank]

Remember at the beginning of the year when Abdul Carter got drafted, he wanted Lawrence Taylor's number and sailor declined.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Abdul Carter has just been missing meetings. He was asleep in the facility. Missing walkthroughs. Lawrence Taylor, he got bench for the start of games. So that was the right decision by. By Lawrence Taylor.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean. But yeah, Hank, you have Lawrence Carter if you compare, like, what Lawrence Taylor did when he was on that day. At one point he produced, though. Yeah, he produced at one point. I remember reading a story that he wrote where they had to, like, go wake him up in his hotel room and he had just, like, cocaine everywhere.

[Hank]

And then he, like, went out and probably had seven.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. That was the end of that anecdote was he went to the game. He had four sacks that day. But, yeah, Abdul Carter.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

It more so tells you that I don't think Abdul Carter had ever met Lawrence Taylor before he got drafted, because if he had, I think he would have been too afraid to ask Lawrence Taylor for jersey number.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Didn't Lawrence Taylor. Yeah. Tell us a story that he was once partying so much that he drove by the meadow, saw the lights on, was like, we have a game tonight. Yeah. So funny. Okay, so.

[Max]

Yeah, it looks like a miscommunication.

[Big Cat]

It was a miscommunication. Courtesy spokes. Kafka about it on FaceTime called it. So he took a little nap.

[Max]

No, he was getting treatment. Apparently there was a change in. In practice time, and he didn't know that there was a change in practice time and he was in the building getting treatment done.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Max]

And it looks. It looks like they cleared it up.

[Hank]

Do they not have, like, a defending the Giants?

[Memes]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm.

[Max]

I'm Abdul Carter.

[PFT Commenter]

Do they not have, like.

[Hank]

Wait, so was he benched or not, though? Why would he be benched?

[PFT Commenter]

Because Kafka didn't know that he was in the building. This is what I'm saying. In our elementary schools growing up, they had being late to meeting an issue during. If they were trying to find somebody, they could just be like, abdul Carter, please report to the practice field. And then he's in the training room, and he's like, oh, I'm late. I'm late for practice. Better get out there.

[Big Cat]

Abdul Carter, your mom has brought your lunch.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That kind of thing. Okay. Pft. Your hot seat, cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Hank. Good. Hot seat, cool throne.

[Big Cat]

You could hot seat, cool throne, Hank.

[Hank]

Thanks.

[PFT Commenter]

You're welcome. My hot seat is Draymond Green. He got into it with a fan at the game the other night, and the fan was allegedly calling him Angel Reese because he was missing a bunch of layups, getting his own rebounds.

[Big Cat]

That's funny.

[Hank]

That's funny.

[Big Cat]

It's rebounds.

[PFT Commenter]

And he was getting me bounds. And then Draymond got up into the fan's face. The fan stood up, and it turns out that the fan was, like 6 foot 8 and much bigger than Draymond Green, like, looking down on him. And so then they got into a nice, calm conversation courtside, where cooler heads prevailed. I'm not saying that Draymond was intimidated by how big this guy was. Once he stood up, it's like Shooter turning around and seeing. Seeing Jaws right. At the golf tournament. But they got. They had a nice little conversation, and then the guy afterwards, he. He was explaining his side of the story, and he was like, yeah, they kicked me out. But listen, I've been kicked out of many sporting events before, and what I said did not rise to the level of being kicked out. So at first I was like, I like this guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he gave the interview, and he was like, as a man who constantly gets kicked out of basketball games, they didn't. They should not have asked me to leave this.

[Big Cat]

Right. I know where the line is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Usually I'm way past.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't even get close to it this time.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

But it was a very funny visual, seeing Draymond get up into his face, and it's like, oh, this guy's huge. Yeah. Then my cool throne is Cam Scatter. Cam Scatter. Recovering from injury. I don't know if he's still on the scooter or not. It was unclear because I saw him at a wrestling event at MSG the other night, taking part in the wrestling theatrics. Like, I think he shoved Roman reigns.

[Big Cat]

It was him and his. Some of his offensive Lineman Andrew Schultz.

[PFT Commenter]

And Andrew Schultz is there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which checks out. And then Scatterboo was, like, in the middle of it. I think that this is a problem for the Giants because Scatter Boo is an awesome player. I love him. He is going to get him. Every time he's injured, he's going to get himself more injured.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you can't tell him to stop because he's like a hyperactive child. I'll put it this way. My dog Blake has had three major joint surgeries. He had double elbows at one point. He had a knee. Every time he gets a surgery, I keep him in his crate and I keep him sedated for, like, a month, because if he's up and he's walking around, he's going to try to run. He's going to try to jump on and off the furniture. He's going to try to play.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So for his own good, I keep him on the edge of being passed out for, like, three, four weeks at a time. Kafka needs to consider a similar treatment for him in a crate for a little bit. Put a. Put a cone on him. Yeah, just keep him. He would probably just start funneling beers out of it. But keep him. Keep him calm, stationary for a little bit. Because when I saw him, I was, like, not surprised at all. No, that he was. He was participating in a WWE match essentially from the sidelines.

[Big Cat]

He probably wanted to be in the.

[PFT Commenter]

Ring, and it looked like the best time ever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They probably were like, hey, we can't actually legally put you in the ring because you're very injured.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This guy had a bone going through his leg three weeks ago.

[PFT Commenter]

He tried to walk it off.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He was like, I got this.

[Big Cat]

All credit to Big Dom for bringing those.

[Booger McFarland]

The.

[Big Cat]

The cheesesteaks and the pizzas.

[PFT Commenter]

Massive credit.

[Max]

Big Dom was also there.

[Big Cat]

Big Dom was all, wait, who's there?

[Max]

Or was he at. At Monday night?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, obviously, he was keeping an eye on.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean, obviously?

[Hank]

Of course he was there.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Max]

Cooper Jean wanted to go, so he brought security.

[Hank]

Is it.

[Max]

Our guy's not allowed to have security anymore?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, we talked about this when he visited Cam in the. In the hospital. He's like, it'd be a real shame if, you know, you said anything. I think, you know, keep your mouth shut.

[Hank]

He was in the ring.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's some cheese steaks. And then all of a sudden, he's following Cam Scatter around to make sure that he's not talking.

[Max]

Big Dom had nothing to do with the actual Production. He was just watching.

[Big Cat]

You got a problem with him being there?

[Hank]

No, I'm saying, like, obviously he's there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I wouldn't expect anything less.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Cam, that's crazy that our paths keep crossing like this. Anyways, it's good to see you. I'll be around. If you do anything, you know where to find me.

[Big Cat]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm never too far away, Cam.

[Big Cat]

I'm always watching. Okay. My hot seat is Arkansas fans because James Franklin has taken the job at Virginia Tech and they're very much in their feels.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Called it. Listen, great call by. By James Franklin. Yeah, I would. I think that, that Virginia Tech is a much better fit right now than Arkansas is for.

[Hank]

I also thought the people at Virginia Tech were with. Or someone was just like drunk saying that to me and I was like, oh, hell yeah. Yeah, they were on it.

[Big Cat]

I. I have a. Take that. I don't know how it will be received, but there was a lot of people being like, why is, why is James Franklin taking a job when he has $50 million buyout? Because now they negotiated the buyouts only 9 million because he got, you know, his salary. Virginia Tech is mitigating some of it. I, I feel like you don't get to a point where you are successful enough to get a 50 point or $50 million buyout unless you have that like killer instinct, competitive drive. So everyone's like, who. Who basically says, if I had that 50 million dollar buyout, I'd sit on my couch. This is not how James Franklin is wired. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He wants to coach also. It. It shows that he, I guess he had a pretty good relationship with Penn State.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Because what he could have done is he could have taken a much lower salary at Virginia Tech.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then kept Penn State on the hook for most of his salary and kind of them over that way if he was pissed off at him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just think that these type of guys are. What?

[Max]

That's wrong. That's wrong.

[Memes]

What?

[Max]

This is coming from Penn State fans. They are. They think the relationship between Penn State and James Franklin is very bad because he hasn't done a thank you, Penn State, thank you fans post yet.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's soft by Penn State.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Incredibly soft.

[PFT Commenter]

He, the man willingly elected to take $9 million instead of. Instead of 50.

[Big Cat]

That's because he.

[Max]

That's. That has nothing to do with Penn State. That has.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it has a little bit to do with Penn State. I think he could have. Obviously he wouldn't have coached at Virginia Tech for $0. But I'm saying that in the negotiation process, he probably could have gotten that buyout down to like 15 or 20 mil from Penn State and then told Virginia Tech, you can keep some of this money. I'm getting the money that you would have given me from Penn State. I'm saying business wise.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did them a solid.

[PFT Commenter]

He did Penn State a favor.

[Big Cat]

Why didn't you follow Lane Johnson?

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

Why don't you follow Lynn Johnson on Twitter?

[Booger McFarland]

Wow.

[Max]

I. I will. I. I can follow.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That is not crazy work.

[Big Cat]

But do you guys agree with me? Like, because there's a lot of. I mean, I just saw it in front of my face. There's a lot of people, like, why would he ever go back to coaching his $50 million buyout? I'd go play golf and sit on my ass. You don't get to the point of James Franklin's success if. If money's the only thing. Money, his competitive nature is why he got to the point, like, if. If you are someone who's going after money, you're probably not going to get it the way that James Franklin did. James Franklin's going after being an awesome coach. Coaching. He need. He needs football to. To live.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's one thing to say that about a guy that's as young as James Franklin, and it's another thing to say about a guy that's, like, towards the end of his career, he's like, I'm going to retire. I'm going to take the TV money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to keep getting paid from the college.

[Big Cat]

That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Big Cat]

But he's got so much like, he wants to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He'd go crazy if he retired.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's not. James Franklin is not a man that was ever thinking about retiring off this. Ever. That was never a consideration for him. It was always like, oh, is he going to go to Auburn? Is he going to Arkansas? Is he going to Florida?

[Big Cat]

People just love to spend other people's money online.

[PFT Commenter]

That is true. General sense, that is true. But, yeah, I think. I think it's a great hire for. For Vir Virginia Tech. I think that this is probably as close to a perfect fit as it gets.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. My cool throne is. I have two of them. One is Shador Sanders because it looks like he's going to start. So that also means he's going to get first team reps. Congratulations to him.

[PFT Commenter]

Against all odds.

[Big Cat]

That's going to be huge. Against all odds. The discourse on Shore Sanders is so funny. I. Hank, you were right that we needed as a take show. We needed him to win against the Ravens. Now we need him to win against the Raiders and look awesome. So it basically becomes if they had ever given him first team reps, he would have been incredible because if he's bad this week, then it's. Then we're going to be in trouble. It does not look good for him though, because the stat is this would be the 18th different QB to make his first career start in the regular season for the Browns since they returned to the NFL in 1999. Those QBs are 0 and 17. Stop.

[Hank]

That is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That is wild.

[Big Cat]

Insane. Insane.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I need him to win. Need him to win even if he looks bad winning this weekend.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's Hungry Dog all day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Big time hungry Dog. And then my other cool throne is meeting women because I don't know if you guys saw this trend going around, but Bill Ackman, I think he's a Wall street guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know this Bill Ackman guy. No one knew who he was until two years ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And now we're all supposed to know who Bill Ackman is. He's like a billionaire. He fancies himself to be a writer sometimes on Twitter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

He's the most boring, weird guy that I've ever encountered online. And now he. Yeah, you can go ahead with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But every. Everything I hear him say, I'm just like, this is a guy that I wouldn't have fun hanging out with.

[Big Cat]

He's someone who you're. He. He has billions of dollars. I assume you don't have to also be famous. Just enjoy your billions. That would.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, he's a guy that put himself in that tennis tournament. Yeah. And all the tennis players got upset.

[Big Cat]

Like, what the. So he said, I hear from many young men that.

[Hank]

That funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was. I mean, ridiculous. I hear from. I hear from many young men that they find it difficult to meet young women in a public setting. In other words, the online culture has destroyed the ability to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would share a few words that I used in my youth to meet someone that I found compelling. I would ask, may I meet you? Before engaging further in a conversation I almost never got to know. I feel like you never got to know, dude, because that's really weird to walk up to someone say, may I meet you?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you know what? He got a shitload of.

[Big Cat]

What okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Or get away from me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, no, of course you can get a no. No. Everyone's confused by that, Zach. Are you willing to maybe go and try that out this weekend?

[Zach]

That sounds extremely uncomfortable.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Memes]

I'll get.

[Big Cat]

I'll do anything. I think you could land the plane. Just give us one. May I meet you?

[Zach]

That's a tough plane to land, but I. I'll rip it. May I meet you? If you need me to.

[Big Cat]

I actually think, like, knowing you, you would say that.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You would say that, though, by accident.

[PFT Commenter]

Whatever happened. Whatever happened to saying hi, hi.

[Booger McFarland]

Hi.

[PFT Commenter]

Hi, I'm bill. What's your name?

[Big Cat]

Whatever happened. Whatever happened to. To staring at a girl across the bar, locking eyes with her once, never talking to her and then going home, being like, yeah, I could have her.

[PFT Commenter]

She wanted.

[Big Cat]

Whatever happened to that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, whatever happened to seeing women in public and then getting scared and then going home and be like, man, I wish I had said something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she. She definitely locked eyes with me.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a much better way to handle it. May I meet you?

[Big Cat]

Oh, this is the. The. The Nick o' Neill choose rich guy who's a troll. This has now become too much Internet. Yeah, that's the problem, too, is now that this has gone viral, he's like, yeah, it's very tough for people in the Internet day and age to. To meet girls. And now he's setting it up that people walk up and say, may I meet you? The women are going to be like, oh, you're that online. Yeah, that Bill. You're taking it from Bill ackman.

[PFT Commenter]

It's kind of funny, though, You. You kind of mentioned it earlier that as rich as you can get, you can be one of the top, like, 10 wealthiest dudes in the world, and you can still long for acceptance online. Yeah, you can still be like, I wish that my social media profile was.

[Memes]

A little bit bigger.

[Big Cat]

They want to be. Yeah, you could have. You could have billions of billions of dollars, and you still are like, I wish people would recognize me and I could be famous. I. Again, I don't. How much does this guy have? Can we look it up? Can we look up how much Bill Ackman has billions? Because I'll just go back to it. I've said it a million times. I think it's a very strong take that I've had for a long time. If you are a billionaire and you don't own a professional sports team, you're a loser. That's a fact. That's what you should do. You have 9.4 billion. Go buy a team, dude. That's the only reason you get that much money is to go buy a team for Billy.

[PFT Commenter]

I think, I think these guys, they, their sports teams are just political parties.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, yeah, you know, I kind of own the Democratic Party.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch them play every November.

[Big Cat]

May I meet you?

[PFT Commenter]

Been a disappointing couple years. We're getting a great draft pick though.

[Big Cat]

He said, I think the combination of proper grammar and politeness was the key to its effectiveness. You might give it a try. And yes, I think it should also work for women seeking men as well as same sex interactions. Oh, thanks. He's opening it up to the gays. Just 2 cents from an older, happy, happily married guy concerned about our next generation's happiness and population replacement rates.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that he threw in the population replacement rates at the very end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I've got the key to repopulating the globe. It's. May I meet you?

[Big Cat]

May I meet you? No, you can't.

[PFT Commenter]

Chicks are going to be dropping their panties left and right. Can I meet you?

[Big Cat]

That's double consent.

[PFT Commenter]

So good.

[Big Cat]

Oh, all right, Zach, My hot seat.

[Zach]

This week is going to be Nick Narasina. I may be. I may be pronouncing that name incorrectly, but I believe it's Narasina.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He recently went out in Thailand with a big group of friends after a night out. And I. What I can assume is they were inspired by the Hangover 2. They decided to get black henna face tattoos. But I think black henna is either illegal or banned in the United States for good reason because now it's. It's like scabbing and burning into his face and he may be left with a permanent Mike Tyson face tattoo.

[Big Cat]

Do you watch his streams? He's, he's a friend of, of Barcelona. Danny Lance grew up with him.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He's a entertaining guy for sure.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's going to stay there for the rest of his life.

[Zach]

I'm worried he may have the. There's a chance he has that on his face for a while now. It's like scabbed and, like, scarring up a little bit. Oh, not a good spot to be.

[Big Cat]

I'll be okay. And if he's not, he'll look cool. He's a good looking guy. He'll be like, I got a good story to tell.

[Zach]

Yeah, I guess he is, like, traditionally handsome enough to pull off the Mike Tyson face tag.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Zach]

He's going to do it and just.

[Big Cat]

Like, yeah, I got this in Thailand, it was crazy story. I feel like that might be better than May I meet you?

[PFT Commenter]

Does that happen to every person that gets a black H tattoo?

[Zach]

I believe the place that he went to and got it from, there's a bunch of other reviews of other guys that have the same one burned on their face.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotta go to Yelp. Gotta go on Yelp.

[Big Cat]

Nick really should do a copy paste of the Bill Amman tweet and instead of may I meet you be like, get a Black Hannah tattoo in Thailand and have it scab up. Yeah, it will open up all the. All. All women will be interested in what you have to say. Probably will do well for him.

[Zach]

They probably have a higher success rate than willing, kind of. May I meet you, May I meet you, May I meet you is tough.

[Big Cat]

I want to see one. Can you try one?

[Zach]

I'll try it for you. Yeah, certainly. But I just.

[Big Cat]

I can't promise results on Friday. Oh, Zach's gonna do it to the person at McDonald's, like, giving him his food. He's like, may I meet you?

[Zach]

Shoot or shoot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. Are you roadying this weekend?

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir.

[Zach]

We're gonna make sure you get all your gear.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it. Love it. I think Big Cat and Max are singing a song with us on Friday.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna try Hank, and get myself up for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Your thoughts? Do you want to sing?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You asked me this. I was like, do you want me to? Like, you don't have to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but you didn't answer. You can if you want.

[Booger McFarland]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

No pressure.

[Hank]

I'm a bad singer. If you want me to, I would.

[Big Cat]

I would love to, but you're not bad at anything.

[Hank]

Oh, thanks.

[Memes]

You're great.

[Big Cat]

We love you. Yeah. You're a guy. Your cool throne, Zach.

[Zach]

My cool throne this week is Jake Paul.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Zach]

Jake Paul found a replacement fight for the Tank Davis fight that got canceled, but it's Anthony Joshua this time.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

Not good.

[Big Cat]

No heavyweight.

[Zach]

Former heavyweight champion.

[Big Cat]

He's gonna get fucked up.

[Zach]

But as far as, like, pool goes, I think Anthony Joshua's got a great, great pool. So I think it was a good swap.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm out. Well, no, I'm out on all the.

[Big Cat]

Jake Paul fights, but here's what he's doing. Pft. He's now getting to the point where he's maybe getting to a point where you could see him get knocked out, and that's where people get back.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what he's been trying to do.

[Big Cat]

I know.

[PFT Commenter]

Every fight, every fight has been, oh, this Guy could knock him out.

[Big Cat]

This one is apparently way different.

[Zach]

This would be the one.

[PFT Commenter]

If Jake Paul is agreeing to fight. It never is. Yes, if Jake.

[Big Cat]

This could be the one.

[PFT Commenter]

If Jake Paul is agreeing to fight anybody, it's because he has an understanding that he is not going to get knocked out. Because the second he starts getting his ass kicked, that's when he stops making money off all these fights.

[Zach]

I think even if there's an agreement in the ring, like at a certain point, like these guys are competitors, maybe egos get involved. Anthony Joshua could still just starch them.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he could too. But I don't think that Jake Paul is taking fights with the understanding that he might lose.

[Zach]

This could be the one.

[PFT Commenter]

The faucet stops running the second he gets his ass kicked twice in a row.

[Max]

I went, I went through a rabbit hole yesterday of like going through this and like real fight. People are basically saying that this is like very dangerous.

[Big Cat]

Yes, yes. He's fight.

[Max]

He's like this is way different than every other person.

[Big Cat]

That's all anyone wants to see. So I'm going to buy it. Is it on Netflix?

[Max]

It's on Netflix.

[Big Cat]

So I already bought it. I already bought it.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's get to our interview with Booger McFarland and then we'll finish up with guys on chicks before we get to.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is our good friend Booger McFarlane. Talking college football. Talking Bo. Good to see it's been a while. I don't think we've seen you since week one. Do you have any donuts you're going to eat?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, of course I have donuts.

[Big Cat]

I love it. I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Are we going with Krispy Kreme?

[Booger McFarland]

Of course.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. I'm going to let you off the hook for now. I actually think that just the fact that you had the donuts means that the bet is paid off because it will be tough for you to eat donuts and answer questions. And I, I, I know you're a man of integrity, so you'll probably eat the rest of them after. And you're also fat, so you'll eat the rest of them after.

[Memes]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Big Cat]

Hey.

[Booger McFarland]

Based on a picture I saw this weekend where you had your shirt off illegal.

[Big Cat]

I said no screenshots.

[Booger McFarland]

I didn't take a screenshot. But I did see the picture and you were in a very vulnerable position. You have no reason to call anybody fat.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yes. That was, that was, it was tough. I had to bend over in the cold tub. But I am back in the gym, so everything's good. We'll revisit I'm doing a. A body reveal. My next body reveal is April 27th. I'm gonna do a body reveal.

[Booger McFarland]

What's going to change everything?

[Big Cat]

Literally everything. I put on the big sweatshirt for the next six months. When I take this thing off on April 27, you're going to be like, oh, my God. How did he do it? Probably TRT is it.

[Booger McFarland]

Are you doing the Serena with the roast Sparks or in the Barkley? Are you Ozempic Manjaro? What are you doing?

[Big Cat]

No, I eat too much. I like eating too much. I'm gonna probably try to do trt.

[Booger McFarland]

What is that? I don't know what that is.

[Big Cat]

Testosterone replacement therapy.

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I've heard of that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right, right. All right, let's talk some Baldo. I want to actually start with. With. With the NFL and then we'll do some college football. We were talking about this on Sunday's show. Monday show. How many teams do you trust that you're like, I have no doubt about them. That they can be there in late January and what are those teams.

[Booger McFarland]

Like? That's the thing about this year. I don't know if I really trust a whole. Like, I don't know if I really trust anybody. Like, if you think. If you think about the best teams in the league, let's look at the nfc. The Philadelphia Eagles. They got a lot of turmoil up there based on who's catching the ball, who's getting all the credit? Detroit, the Rams, Seattle. Like, do we. If you force me to pick one, I'd probably say the Rams.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

Matthew Stafford is playing at an MVP level. The defense is young. It's outstanding. I love how they run the football. Sean McVay is one of the best play callers. So I guess if I had to choose one team on the NFC side, it would be the Rams. On the AFC side. I love Daniel Jones in resurrection, but do we really trust him in a big game? I like Bo Knicks. I like the win they got against Kansas City. But are we really willing to risk our money on Bo Nicks? I'm not really sure who you trust. The Chiefs are the Chiefs right now. They're not a good football team, but I think we know more about them in crunch time. At least we used to. The team I probably trust the most right now is the Rams, and that's on both sides of the ledger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree with that. And when you're talking about the Eagles, I think that the Eagles should be a dominant team. Their roster is as good as any team in footballs. I think we've been talking a lot about their offense and how frustrating it gets. You mentioned the wide receiver position, Booger. You played with some. We like, we use this term not as a. Not as a slam or an insult, but as something that we appreciate about the NFL at times. The diva wide receiver.

[Booger McFarland]

Absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

It feels like if you're a diva wide receiver, that's a guy that can make a difference. I also just kind of like the antics. I like what happens and all the stories that kind of come out of that. It seems like the Eagles are going through some of that with A.J. brown. You played with a few diva wide receivers in your career. You played with Keyshawn, right?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Dominant wide receiver. What is the key to keeping a diva wide receiver happy besides throwing them the football? Because AJ Brown does get the football. He gets it thrown his way, but he doesn't really appreciate the ways that throwing to him. So can you just say, like, how do you keep a diva happy?

[Booger McFarland]

Okay, so it's very similar to how we keep our significant others happy. You make them feel good. You know, you tell them how good they are, you tell them how pretty they look, you throw them a football, you take them out to eat, you make them smile, you tell them jokes, you make them laugh. Because to your point, AJ Brown is getting the ball just as much as he did last year. However, he seems to be unhappy. And I think there's an interesting dynamic that's happening in football. And you guys tell me if you agree. Jacksonville, Miami, Philadelphia, Arizona. You know what those four teams have in common? The quarterback is the highest paid player on the team, but he's not the best player. And so when you have that dynamic, the guys, I'm not going to use the word respect, but there's always something when the guy making the most money is not the best player. And I think if you look at Philadelphia, A.J. brown basically said he's like, cool, I'm cool with the championship. That's great. I love the ring. But this is the new year and right now our offense is not performing at a high enough level. And I think he's calling everybody out, including himself. And I think when you look at it, yeah, he's getting the targets, but the offense is not performing. So he's really not complaining about himself. He's complaining about the offense because he's getting the requisite target. So I just think it's one of those dynamics that happens in that situation. Now, look, Philly is so talented, they probably could still win the super bowl based on the talent, with all the turmoil going on, I think they're that good. But there's something to be said for that little caveat that I just added. Think about those situations around the league. Quarterbacks, the highest paid player on the team, but he's not the best player in those situations. Like, it's always a little something going on in those situations. It may be a comment here, a comment there, somebody misspoke. Like, it's always something on those teams with those dynamics.

[PFT Commenter]

That's interesting. I. I hadn't. I hadn't considered that dynamic. But it does make a lot of sense. They should just have an option where, you know how you go. You buy a cup of coffee and they flip the iPad around on you and you can tip afterwards after a game. Jalen Hurts should be allowed to tip A.J. brown out. You should just give him an iPad.

[Big Cat]

Depending on how he plays.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, can I get 250,000? Thanks. Appreciate that.

[Booger McFarland]

Hey, I mean, A.J. brown is paid handsomely now. It's not like he's. I think he's making 28 million a year or something like that. Maybe 30. So, like, these guys are ultra, ultra millionaires, ultra rich. They're making the top money at their position. But it's always something in Philadelphia, right? Like, it's always something. I think after the season, this is my gut feeling. I think this is A.J. brown's last season in Philadelphia. I think regardless of whether they win the championship or not, I think they're going to move on from him. And Howie Roseman will continue to do what he's done masterfully, which is rebuild this team through trades and drafts in.

[PFT Commenter]

The nfc besides Philly. And I do think that Philly's the best team in the NFC besides the Rams, outside of the Rams, Philadelphia. Who do you think would be a team that could give, like, the Eagles a run for their money? Because the Eagles have played a tough schedule. They've beaten almost every good opponent on their schedule. It's not always pretty, but. But outside those two, is there one that's built in a way that you could. You could see making a run?

[Booger McFarland]

Absolutely. I think Seattle is built the right way. You know, people ask me about the Sam Donald game. Is it. Is it a bump in the road or is it a cause for concern? I'm going to go bump in the road right now. I think Sam Donald has a Ram problem. If you remember when he was in Minnesota last, the Rams came in there and sacked him like nine times. I just think Chris Shula and that defense present problems to Sam Donald. So I don't know if it's a cause for concern yet. I'm just going bump in the road. I think Detroit, like, Dan Campbell is a guy like, you know exactly what you're going to get. And I think in a situation where they don't go over five on fourth down, they can beat anybody. I love how Detroit's built. I would have said Tampa, but Tampa's too injured right now. And Tampa has a glaring weakness. They can't rush the passer outside of Blissing. So I think there's a clear hierarchy in the nfc, and I'm leaving Green Bay out right now specifically because I don't know if I trust Jordan Love. Jordan Love has really not shown us any form of consistency right now. And so I think the clear four, I guess that's four if you look at it, Philadelphia, the Rams, Seattle, Detroit, like, I think those four, and then you probably follow them with Green Bay are probably the top five in the nfc. But I clearly trust the Rams more than anybody. I think they've been the most consistent team so far in the National Football League on the NFC side.

[Big Cat]

All right, let me give you a little thought. Starter. On the afc, if I gave you to get to the super bowl, if I gave you the Broncos, the Patriots and the Colts on one side or the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs on the other, which one are you picking? Knowing that technically right now the Ravens and Chiefs are not even in the.

[Booger McFarland]

Playoffs, I'm going on the side of the Broncos.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

Like, the hardest thing for us to do is let go of the past. Like, that's the hardest thing for us to do. Like, like, like we are. We are creatures that we love. Like, nostalgia. Like, Big Cat. Like, like, it's. It was hard for you. I remember when you were, like, super fat. Like, I remember back.

[Big Cat]

It's like, seriously, like, I was like 20 pounds heavier. Yeah, right.

[Booger McFarland]

I remember when you were super fat. Like, those habits that got you super fat. Hard, Hard to let go. Pft. I remember when you used to ride the bike religiously.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

That habit, it's gone. Like, it's hard to let go. So, like, old habits die really, really hard. And I think we think about the Ravens, the Chief and the Bills.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Booger McFarland]

The best teams. No, they're not. The Ravens defense is flawed. The Chiefs are five and five. And if you look at the Bills, the Bills, if Josh Allen's not Superman, they can't win. I think the teams, the Broncos, the Colts, more complete Teams now, do we trust the quarterbacks? That's the question. But I do think that those other teams are better teams, if you follow me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's a very good point because I think there's something we said where it's. Everyone's kind of waiting around for the Chiefs of the Ravens to get their act together. And the Ravens have recently, ever since Lamar got back. But the Chiefs, to me, I thought they were going to win that game against the Broncos on Sunday. I thought that that was a perfect spot for the Chiefs. Off the buy. You see the Chiefs, they had the ball when they're up three in the fourth quarter, they can't get a first down. They had the ball when they're tied in the fourth quarter, can't get a first down. That's not what the Chiefs have been like the last seven years. That's a team that gets those big time first downs, salts a game away. And the Broncos defense, all credit in the world to them, played lights out and Bo Nicks made the big throw at the end. So do you think, like there's a world I'm starting to get on, on, like board with it? The Chiefs could miss the playoffs. They don't have a margin for error anymore with who's in front of them and who has tiebreakers.

[Booger McFarland]

If the Chiefs lose to the Colts this Sunday, they're missing the playoffs.

[Max]

Wow.

[Booger McFarland]

Period, point blank. As, As a, as a guy who loves election tv, around election time, as our guy John King would say, it's just math. It's simple Math, guys, they're five and five now. If they lose one more, that's five and six, that's 11, there's only six left. Like, it comes down to simple math. Like if they lose to the coach, I'm telling you right now, you can book it. They're not making the playoffs. This is the biggest game, I think of the quote unquote, Chiefs dynasty or Chiefs magical run. Because the biggest step or the hardest step is always the first step. This will be the first step into them. Basically kind of the dynasty crumbling because if they lose to the Colts, they're not making the playoffs. That's year one. What happens next year? Chris Jones is only a year older. Travis Kelsey is only a year older. Like those guys. Like this. This iteration is coming to an end sooner than later, I think, and at all. To me, there is a. There's a pivotal point and it happens this Sunday at Arrowhead against Daniel Jones.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that take. And we were talking about how the Chiefs would basically be eliminated with another loss, although the math does technically exist. I think we should go with your route, though. Like. Like the election graphic. Booger McFarlane now projects the Chiefs will not make the playoffs and put, like, a check mark on it with an outline of the state of Kansas and Missouri right there. I want to talk to you real quick about the rookie quarterbacks this year. So Cam Ward. My. My take on Cam Ward is that we. We don't know. He might be good, he might not be. I think the position that he's been in in Tennessee, like, the way that that team is organized right now, it feels like, by the way, have no idea.

[Booger McFarland]

By the way, that is. That is one straddle of the fence kind of take. He may be good or he may not. Like, pick a side. Like, which one is it?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm saying it's impossible to know. How do you evaluate that?

[Booger McFarland]

But pick one, then don't. Just. Well, he might be good. He might be not. No.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, I'll take.

[Big Cat]

He's not good. You take.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I think he's good. He makes.

[Big Cat]

I think he's not good.

[PFT Commenter]

He has. He has one of those throws every week where you're like, God damn, that guy's awesome. I love that pass that he just threw.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got a cannon for an arm, and then he has that play where he just, like, takes three steps back and he just drops the ball on the ground for no reason. So I don't know how to evaluate Camborg. That's why you're the expert, Booger. We're bringing you on because we're. We're idiots over here, so help us out. If you're looking at Cam Ward Jackson Dart, I was really impressed with Shador on third and 10 against all odds in that play that he had on Sunday, picking up that first down. But if we're looking at all the rookie QBs, is there one Jackson Dart, Obviously using his legs a lot, but how do we evaluate these guys at this stage in the process?

[Booger McFarland]

Very young. Cam Ward, Jackson Dart. Both of them are super talented. Cam Ward has zero weapons and he's not a runner, so he hasn't been able to make some of the plays that Jackson Dart has with his legs. Cam Lord can't. Cam Ward can run, but he's more of a guy that's going to beat you from the pocket. He's made some wild throws. I think the fact that right now he doesn't have the requisite weapons kind of limits him. Calvin really breaking his leg is going to hurt. I think if you're Tennessee, you have to like, your entire draft should be wide receiver, tight end, wide receiver, wide receiver. Like, draft a bunch of dudes that can catch the football. I think the offensive line has been better than we would have thought. I love Cam Moore. Jackson Dart has to realize, man, like, how many running quarterbacks live to be like 10 year running quarterbacks? Like, when you are running quarterback, the shelf life doesn't last long. A long time. He's got to modify his running style. He's been in concussion protocol four times. That's not good. Now, I love what he's brought. I love everything about him. All the aura and the mystique he's brought to the Giants and giving the Giants fans hope. And the future looks bright, but you can't have four concussions a year. Like, that's not like his brain will be jelly by the time he's in year three. He just can't do that. And hopefully he modifies his running style. Hopefully the next coach will kind of limit the design runs. But I love Jackson Dart, man. He's definitely. He's got a little swag. He reminds me a little bit of like, if you see him at his post game press conference, he's got the chain on. I think I saw him with a grill on. Like, he's got a little bit of swag. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, he's. He's a fun guy to root for. But you just said the same thing about Cam War that I said. You say he doesn't have any weapons.

[Booger McFarland]

No. Yeah, but I didn't say he might be good, he might not. I just said he doesn't have any weapons. I think he's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right, so I agree, I agree. I think he's good, but they need to build around him. But I, I've seen a lot of people being like, yeah, the Titans should think about, you know, if they do get that first pick, they should honestly evaluate quarterbacks. And I disagree with that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, I disagree with that as well. All right, so, Booger, let's talk some college football. Let's start with James Franklin of Virginia Tech. I think it's a good move for obviously Virginia Tech. Like, he can recruit that area. What do you expect? And also, like, it feels like there was a lot of fan bases, especially Arkansas, who feels like they are like, what? What is the point of this? How did we lose out to Virginia Tech? I just think that the James Franklin made a good move for like, his own personal life for where he can recruit well. And I think it's a fit that's going to get Virginia Tech back to a little bit of relevancy which they've been just missing for the last however long years.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, it's an interesting thought. I want you guys to think about this. Let's go back to when Scott Frost was at ucf. And Scott Frost, if you remember, he had a choice between Florida, I think Tennessee, or he could go back to Nebraska. And someone told me a quote. I don't know if it was true or not, but it sure made sense. Why would Scott Frost go to Nebraska over Florida? And it simply said this. If you go to Florida, you're basically the moment you sign on the dotted line. It's not if you get fired, it's when. Because that fan base expects a national championship every single year and it's hard to deliver. You can go back to your alma mater, Nebraska, and you can basically be there as long as you want. Now, it turned out that wasn't true, but I think you get the premise of the point. I think if you're James Franklin, I think the only other job James Franklin was kind of looking at was Florida State. I think after Florida State won this past weekend, James Franklin got the inclination that Florida State wasn't going to open. So he takes Virginia Tech. I love it. James has coached in that area. Penn State's not too far from Virginia. He's recruited in that area. That's where his base is, that part of the country. If you think about it, he was at Vanderbilt in Nashville, Tennessee. He goes to Pennsylvania now. He's at Virginia Tech. That area of the country. He understands very well. He knows where the high school players are. He knows all about that area. So I think it's a perfect fit. And the SEC is not built for everybody. And I think James has been in the SEC at Vanderbilt and he won eight or nine games, so he can be successful. I just think he feels it's a better fit for he and his family in Blacksburg. And quite frankly, I can't wait to see James Franklin in the tunnel when they play Inner Sandman. And he's trying to bob a little bit like, I can't wait for that moment to happen next season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think it's a great hire. I think that Virginia Tech, what they're looking for is exactly what James Franklin has delivered in his past. If he does what he did at Vandy and what he did at Penn State, and he does that in Blacksburg they're going to love him, and he's going to stay there forever. He's going to have a lifetime contract. They don't. I don't think Virginia Tech has, you know, they actually have, like, the perfect perspective when it comes to a college football fan base. And a lot of fan bases don't get this where you're in the conversation. You win 10 games a year. That is an awesome year. You had a great season. If you win 10 football games, it's hard to win. And they're happy. They will be happy with that if Franklin can get them in the playoff conversation at Virginia Tech. And I think that that's actually what he's suited for. And they've committed a lot of money to the athletic department now, I think with the overall goal of either joining the Big Ten, one, like, you know, five, ten years in the future, or the sec. So even though he might not be built for the sec, he might find himself in the SEC at the end of the. His. His tenure at Virginia Tech. But I. I agree. I think it's an awesome hire for Virginia Tech. And then we've got some other dominoes that are going to fall. Now, Penn State, obviously still open, and with Penn State, let's just say, what do you think? What do you think in terms of, like, the coaches that are out there floating around, who do you think would be the best fit in Happy Valley?

[Booger McFarland]

Pat Fitzgerald. Period, point blank. Yeah. Like. Like, if. If the Penn State people can get past allegedly what happened at Northwestern, and I know he's been vindicated based on the lawsuit. If he. If. If the Penn State people can get past that, doesn't it make a lot of sense?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Now, I. I know there's a. There's some rumors that Clark Lee also is a candidate there, but, like, Pat Fitzgerald makes so much sense. I listened to him talk for 30 minutes on a podcast, and I was ready to suit up. I'm literally. I was ready to go outside and, you know, Book hates cold weather. I was ready to go outside and pack up and head to the Northeast and just get cold and frozen and play for Pat Fitzgerald. Like, that's what I was ready to do.

[Big Cat]

Who's going to coach your LSU Tigers? You guys feel. I mean, the Lane Kiffin thing is very funny. I think he's staying at Ole Miss. He's going to pretend he's going to lsu. He's going to pretend he's going to Florida, and then they'll announce these things at Ole Miss.

[Booger McFarland]

But who.

[Big Cat]

Who are you guys going to get?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, it's funny because, like, I've never been, like, a true fan. And so to be on social media and watch Florida's fan base, LSU's fan base, Ole misses fan base, like, go crazy over every rumor, every flight, every this, every that. Like, it's kind of funny to me because I've been on the other side. I've never been like that, like, wound up about anything like that. To answer your question, I'm not sure. I think LSU is the number one job in the country. I think there are several people who would do a lot to get that job. Whether it's Lane or not, I don't know. Whether it's somebody else, I honestly have no idea. I just know the next coach at LSU has to embrace the culture. Saying y' all and family can't be something that is. That is. That has to be taught to you on the way to the press conference. Like, you have to be able to understand what it's like in the Southeastern Conference. So our athletic director, Verge Osbury, played football at LSU. He's been there 30 years. He's the guy making the hire. So I honestly have no doubt this hire is going to be a home run, whether it's Lane or whether it's somebody else.

[PFT Commenter]

How much golf is too much golf for a college football coach to play?

[Booger McFarland]

So, number one, you should not golf during the season whatsoever. So I don't say at all 100% no golfing during the season. So from August to January, no golf once the season is over, for the next month, probably around a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's. That's appropriate.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes. So let's. So let's go four rounds there. Then you got to start getting ready for spring practice. Spring practice usually starts in late March. So between January and February, four rounds. Between February and March, I'll give you four more rounds. One spring practice starts. So that's eight rounds so far. Yeah, spring practice is done about April 15th. So now, since there's only one transfer portal period, you got a little time off between eight, you got a little time off April, May, and June. I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you 10 rounds, late April, May, June. So that's 18 rounds if he's playing. If you. If your coach is playing more than 20 rounds a year, then you got the wrong coach.

[PFT Commenter]

You shouldn't have, like, a current handicap even.

[Booger McFarland]

Well, yeah, somebody should tell Hugh. Freeze that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the. The transfer portal is now, what, January 2nd. Now second through the 16th. So that's two weeks. Right. So you got to take two weeks off that. So we're down to what, 16 rounds of golf per year now?

[Booger McFarland]

16 to 18. No more than that.

[Big Cat]

That sounds about right.

[PFT Commenter]

It does.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so in terms of the actual playoffs and you know, we're taping this on Tuesday morning, so we don't know the actual rankings, I don't think there's going to be much change at the top. I'll start with this. Is Georgia back to being Georgia? Because I feel like they are. And their defense is obviously not what it used to be, but their offense is. Is. Is humming right now. What they did to Texas, what they did to Mississippi State. It feels like everyone kind of got off the scent early on because they were not only lost Alabama, but they also been down in games. They've struggled in some of these games. But it feels like in terms of the sec, Texas A and M has been great. Alabama's been good. Oklahoma, all these teams. But Georgia, people are kind of forgetting that Georgia, hey, they're going to probably go there, and they're going to be the team that might go the farthest in the sec. Agree.

[Booger McFarland]

Kirby Smart's the best coach in America. He gets it and he is the. Like, he's got the most confidence, and he can afford that because he's got a couple of national championships. They play a brand of football, Big cat that's physical. That means you can take it anywhere in any weather against anybody. And like, if you watch the game against Texas, like, it's typical Georgia, like, at some point they're going to impose their will and just basically, it's almost like when. When Rocky fought Drago, like, no matter how good Rocky looked, you knew at some point Drago, you know, when old boy said from the corner and Drago went crazy on Rocky, like the pure physicality was going to take over. And if it was not for Rocky's heart and great acting, Rocky would have got beat. What's the same way against Georgia? Like, at some point, Georgia's going to line up and they're going to beat the hell out of you. And if you can take it, you got a chance. If you can't, it's good night. And most teams haven't been. Haven't been able to take it the way Rocky did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What about Oklahoma? Now, they had a huge game on Saturday. Pretty impressive effort from that defense. The Sooner defense looked amazing. They got two winnable games to close out the season. It feels like they're Going to make the playoff. If I were to guess, I would, I would, I would say Oklahoma, I think will make the College Football Playoff. I feel like they could be a sneaky team that could do some damage once the games start. Meaning something sneaky?

[Booger McFarland]

Yes. Well, they actually do it. No, they can't run the football. And so now you're going to put everything on the quarterback who, although he finally looked like himself pre thumb surgery and John Matiere. Like, when you go against the best teams, your flaws show. And the defense was outstanding. They got turnovers. They were able to beat Alabama. But if you look at the offense, Alabama outgained them 2 to 1. So Alabama moved the ball up and down the field. They just got some time to turnovers. So can you always count on turnovers? I don't think you can. Now, they may happen, they may not, but you can't always count on them. So I think I agree they'll be favored against Missouri and lsu. Whether they win those two games, we'll see. But if they're able to win those two games, they'll get into the playoff and then it becomes matchups. Then it becomes who you're going to play. I don't know who they, I don't know who they would play where I would favor them because they're limited offensively and so much is put on the quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the, the, the turnover thing is, is, was true for Oklahoma's big win at Tennessee as well. Tennessee, the ball and they were taking the ball away. But maybe that's just their defense. Very good. I'm a big believer in John Mateer and you might, you might just be able to get a running game from him. You know, that's. He's a tough, tough guy and he can, he can rack up those yards and he, he has like they, they did draw up at Alabama some of those QB draws and designed runs where it's like, this is how we're going to have to figure out a way to get some type of running game going.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, yeah, but you can. But when you run the quarterback so much, that's how I got hurt last time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, of course, of course.

[Booger McFarland]

So, like, I don't know if you can do that, but if they get into the playoff, they're going to run the hell out of him. And, and he. And Ben Arbuckle, who's the offensive coordinator, they've really been really, really good together. So I think there's a chance, like it's 12 teams. All you want to do is get in and Then it becomes matchups. I think Ohio State is clearly the best team even though they haven't been tested. Georgia looks like they may be the best team based on how they've been tested. So we'll see. It's going to be fun. And this is coming from somebody who was kind of against the 12 team playoff. Man, now I'm all for it. It's going to be super fun to see the matchups, the home games. Yeah, I can't wait, man.

[Big Cat]

It's, it's, it's going to be great. So you, you didn't mention Indiana in that group. I think Indiana is, is, is capable of, of winning it all. They are very, very good. They're obviously their win against Oregon, what they've done to some other teams. Are you thinking that Indiana maybe give us, do this, give us your list of teams that you can win the national championship this year because it's a little easier than the NFL where I think you can pretty much say here's four or five teams and that I could see them winning it all.

[Booger McFarland]

Ohio State.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Booger McFarland]

Georgia.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Booger McFarland]

Indiana. Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Booger McFarland]

Alabama. Notre Dame. Alabama.

[Big Cat]

I don't think Alabama should be on that list, but Notre Dame I do think should be on that list because similar to what you said about the, you know, we, we, we struggle to get rid of like old, you know, perceptions of teams. Notre Dame had two big games in the first two weeks of the season where their defense looked like shit. Their defense, while not the best offenses they've been playing, has turned it around. And Jeremiah Love is a difference maker and CJ Carr is a really good player. I think people kind of got off the scent of Notre Dame and don't realize they are that type of team that can win a couple of playoff games.

[Booger McFarland]

They understand who they are, they're going to win out. They're going to be 10 and 2 and very similar to Georgia. They understand who they are. They can run the football. They got the two best, maybe the two best running backs in America and they happen to be on the same team in the same backfield. C.J. carr started to play better and better. I just love their coach also, Marcus Freeman. Whatever game they're in, I hope it doesn't rain because you know, the whole cap and the hairline thing, I hope that doesn't come out. But like he's, he's phenomenal. I love him. Notre Dame is going to be a tough out when, because I think they're getting in. So I'm going to push back on the Alabama thing. We think Georgia might be the best team. Big cat. Alabama beat them. So how can you say or why are you not a believer in Alabama.

[Big Cat]

Similar to the Oklahoma? I don't think they can run the ball effectively enough in big moments. And when you get one dimensional like that, I think it will be a matchup problem where they can they find someone in the playoff who can just basically be like, hey, we know you're not gonna be able to run the ball. We're going to be able to defend the pass and that type of inability to be flexible in the big moments. Whereas like you talk about a Notre Dame can run the ball and throw the ball. Ohio State can do both, Georgia can do both. Having the ability to do both at a high level just gives you, you know, depending, like it doesn't matter who you're matched up against, you can do what you want to do offensively.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, that makes sense. That's a good point. That's one of the better points you've made on this podcast.

[Big Cat]

There we go. Appreciate that.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Texas A and M? Because you look to last week and you can look at that game one of two ways. You can say, how the fuck did they get out to a 30 to 3 hole against South Carolina? But then you can also look at it and say that's an unreal comeback that Texas A and M had to not give up on that game. And that's the kind of stuff where going into next week and the week after moving forward, like, they could be a very, very dangerous team because they believe that they can do anything now. So I, I, I've been like the biggest hater of A M throughout the history of this show. I've called him a cult. I've called him a bunch of weirdos. I might, they might have, I might be getting indoctrinated into the cult right now because I do find myself going away from that win and saying, that's actually very impressive that they were able to come back.

[Booger McFarland]

Very impressive. I don't think they can stop the run. So if Texas didn't play Georgia, I think Georgia would rush for 250 yards. Marcel Reed, man, like, it's the tale of two halves. Like, which, which guy do you believe? I think he's been really good. Do you trust him? I don't know. Texas A might be the fastest team in the country, but like, if you can't stop the run and the quarterback, like you put so much on the quarterback, I think eventually the quarterback will buckle a little bit. A la to your point, bcat Ty Simpson, even though Ty Simpson is one of the best passers, I think John Mateer, Marcel Reed, like when you put so much on them, I just wonder at what point do they kind of buckle and fold a little bit?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

[Big Cat]

What about Texas Tech? I think Texas Tech is maybe in that group. Their, their defense is awesome.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah. I mean, I understand they put a lot of money on the defense. The defense is good, but I don't know, I got to see it from them. Just, I don't know. Like the defense is good. They can rush the passer. Texas. I'm gonna throw some matchups out. Off the top of your head, tell me who your favorite. Texas Tech, Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Where's the game being played?

[Booger McFarland]

Hey, big guy, top of your head.

[Big Cat]

That doesn't mean where's the game being played? I asked where's the game being?

[PFT Commenter]

Come on.

[Booger McFarland]

Bcat on a foot, on a football field. Texas Tech, Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Probably Notre Dame.

[Booger McFarland]

Texas Tech, Georgia.

[Big Cat]

Probably Georgia.

[Booger McFarland]

Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A and.

[Big Cat]

M. That one I might take Texas. Texas Tech, Yeah. I might take Texas. Second that one I think their defense could stop, so.

[Booger McFarland]

Right. It's. It's going to be a matchup type game for them. They're just not dominant against everybody. I guess that's my point.

[Big Cat]

What, Speaking of the Texas stuff, are you going to get in on the discourse of Texas? The Texas Longhorns, if they beat Texas A and M, should be in the playoff even though they have three losses.

[Booger McFarland]

No, I don't. I don't think we reached the point where a three loss team is getting in.

[Big Cat]

Okay, now here's the only. Here's the only. Because I agree with you, I do not think Texas should be. And I think the losses should matter. Their loss to Florida is very bad. Here's the only counter argument and I hope we don't get to this point, but I don't want to have it be a situation where teams start saying, well, why the hell would we ever schedule anyone good at the beginning of the season? Because if Texas does beat Texas A and M, they could put their hands up and be like, hey, if we just didn't play Ohio State, we'd be in the playoff. True.

[Booger McFarland]

However, they also can't lose to some of the teams that they lost to also. So I think that's what I like. They've lost the Ohio State, they've lost to Georgia. If they lose to. If they lose the A and M, then obviously it's over with. But like like the team that they've lost, they lost to Florida. Like, the team we've lost to are not. Some of them aren't good teams. So I, I get it. But you just can't lose the teams that aren't good.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm also going to count going to overtime against Kentucky as a loss.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But especially the Kentucky one. That, that.

[Booger McFarland]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

That should be. That's enough to like disqualify the, the argument against the Ohio State law.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't want Texas in the, in, in the playoff. I do not think they deserve to. I just also don't want teams to start going just cupcakes in September because they see like, what, what did we gain from playing Ohio State? Absolutely nothing on the road to start the season. So, yeah, I, I just as long as maybe the committee just has to say, hey, Texas, we're keeping you out because of the overtime to Mississippi State and Kentucky, not because you put lost Ohio.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They had the two worst wins.

[Big Cat]

They have to just say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You have to factor in their, their two worst wins were against those two teams in overtime.

[Booger McFarland]

You know, now if, if they were to go and play Texas A and M and take belt to ass and just be like, just where are they?

[Big Cat]

See, you're doing it. You're doing it.

[Booger McFarland]

Like you could almost talk me into.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you are. You are.

[Max]

Man.

[Booger McFarland]

I hate to say that, but it, like, if they beat A and m by like 21, then maybe, maybe we can talk about it. But there are other things that have to happen. Like, it just can't be that in a vacuum. Yeah. You have to have other things happen.

[Big Cat]

Other losses come down.

[PFT Commenter]

You, you, a group of five guy at all. Who do you have in the playoff from the group of five and why is it James Madison?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, they're the best team right now. They got one ball. And so like JMU is the best team. I thought it was going to be South Florida, but they couldn't stop Navy. I think James Madison is going to wind up getting in. I think their schedule with their. They got what, one game left. I think it's pretty favorable. We'll see like the group of five at some point. I think we're going to come up with a scenario with a group of five is not a part of this conversation because what you may wind up having is James Madison at Georgia.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. I don't like that look you just gave me. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, where are they going to play out a football field?

[Booger McFarland]

You can play that Bitch in the parking lot.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

I listen. My national championship would be if James Madison made the College Football Playoff. That would be my national championship game. And if we cover the spread, I would declare myself to be a national champion at that point. Because you're right, it is a mismatch. I like having the group of five in there because if you separate it out and you have the Group of 5 playoff, then all you've just done is you've just made another Division 1 double a FCS bracket that you have to go through. I like having them in there just because one year, there will be a year where it happens. We're out of nowhere. The group of five teams somehow lux their way into a win. It might be five years from now, it might be 10 years from now, might be 20 years, but that's going to be a hell of a moment, and I don't want to miss out on the opportunity for that moment.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, it may happen, but it won't be this year because it's going to be JMU against Ole Miss, maybe Texas Tech, Georgia, like, that's. Who could be in that fifth spot. I don't, I don't, I don't like James, James Madison's chances in that situation.

[PFT Commenter]

That defense is really, really good, and the quarterback's playing as good as he played. They got a running back, too. They, they have. You're right. It's not, it's not going to happen. But I, I, I want to see the day where there is an upset that nobody sees coming. I mean, just imagine if somehow Indiana got the five seed and then JMU got the 12 seed and then go play against Kurt Signetti. How cool would that be?

[Booger McFarland]

That would be absolutely phenomenal. I don't think Indiana's fallen. Like, Indiana is going to be undefeated. They're going to play Ohio State, I think, unless Michigan shocks the world and beats Ohio State for the Big Ten championship. So even if they lose Ohio State, I don't think they're falling. The five.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're probably right about that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, Booger, I got one last question. You want to eat a donut while I do the last ad read just as good faith. And then we'll call it clean for Tommy Fleetwood.

[Booger McFarland]

Let's do it. Come on.

[Big Cat]

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[Booger McFarland]

Talk to me.

[Big Cat]

What as you stuff your face with the donut.

[Memes]

How.

[Big Cat]

And we can go college or NFL here this time of year, right around Thanksgiving. How does the. How is the body feeling? Like, in terms of football players and being able to get up there? Like, what percentage are they able to play at week to week? Because we always say it, you know, everyone's got something, but obviously we don't know what the fuck they've got. How does it feel week to week? Like rehabbing and getting yourself back ready to play on Saturdays or Sunday.

[Booger McFarland]

So quarterbacks are probably about 85, 90%, most of them, because they rarely ever get hit. Offensive and defensive linemen are probably 75%. It's just tough, man, because we hit every play like we're just banging each other over and over and over. The other spots, the other positions are what they are like, but like the two most physical spots are the O and D line and like the running backs, obviously. But the quarterbacks can get hit and when they get hit, they take big hits. So overall, man, like, if you're out on the field, like something is nagging you, something is bothering you, but there's a rule of thumb, all right? If you step on the field, there's no excuses. You got to show up and be ready to play. And so I think that's always been the mentality of players. If you're hurt, we can play. If you're injured, you can. A lot of players play hurt. So it's just that type of game, man. Like, that's how it is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it is. Always. I always just think about it, like, even college football, you know, we're two weeks away from it being over. NFL, there's a lot of football left and there's a lot of wear and tear left. And it's like, you know, I know no one wants to be like, hey, credit to the guys, but credit to the guys. It's crazy. Like, we got two full months of NFL football left.

[Booger McFarland]

Left, and I can't wait to watch it all. It's going to be fun. Like, this is the best time of year. Like Thanksgiving is next week. You know, kids are out, out of school for a week. You got Christmas coming, I got decorations being put up right now. Like it's, it's, it's the best time of year, man.

[Big Cat]

It really is.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that Booger. Real quick, before you go, I think Bcat was a little bit afraid to ask you about this cuz he was Afraid what your answer would beat? That's what he called you earlier. Yeah. Bcat.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Are the Chicago Bears good?

[Booger McFarland]

They are well coached.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

Are they good relative to the other teams we talked about in the nfc? Can they be Seattle? Maybe. Can they beat the Rams? No. Can they beat the Eagles? No. Can they be. Who am I missing? Who did not name Detroit? Can they beat Detroit? We're gonna find out. They're a good team. I put them in tier tier 2 right now.

[Big Cat]

Totally, totally fair. They're, they're, they are a good team, but they have to prove it against some of the great teams. I think that's really where they're at. Like, we've beaten all the bad teams and so we're no longer a bad team. We're a good team. But yeah, I think the one thing I'm very excited about is they have, they have won seven games already this year and they haven't really put together outside of maybe the Cowboys game like a great game on all three phases. And if that happens, especially if we get some of our secondary healthy, like this team could be better than we think.

[Booger McFarland]

I would definitely agree with that. But congratulations to you on the Bears. Looks like a home run higher. And Ben Johnson, pfc. Not really sure what to say. A lot of regression in Washington. Hopefully things come back to form next season.

[PFT Commenter]

Congratulations on jmu. You can just say that.

[Booger McFarland]

Well, first of all, I'm not going to congratulate them until they make the playoff. And then at that point I'll send out a tweet because congratulating you and JMU.

[PFT Commenter]

I appreciate that. No, things have been bad in D.C. very bad. It's. It's as bad as I could have ever imagined going to the season. But you know what? We're going to move forward. We're going to hopefully get a good pick and there's next year.

[Big Cat]

And congratulations to you, Booger. The It's. It's a world where the Bucks, Colts, the Booger McFarland Super bowl could conceivably happen.

[Booger McFarland]

It's in play and maybe Christmas will come early. It'll be Bucks coach in the Super Bowl. Maybe before then we actually get a head coach that knows how to say family and y' all in Baton Rouge and all of a sudden everything in my world will be great.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

Well, you're the best, Booger. We love having you on. Thank you so much and appreciate you being a man of honor with the donuts. And you have paid your debt to Tommy Fleetwood, all good, man.

[Booger McFarland]

Really appreciate it. Thanks, Buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's wrap up the show. Henry. Guys on chicks.

[Hank]

My boyfriend is always preaching about hotel bathrooms on road trips. He gets so fired up when people stop at gas stations, fast food places, etc to go to the bathroom on road trips. He's adamant about hotel lobbies always being clean, nice music playing, and always accessible as a receptionist. Never say anything. It has gotten to a point where we are backtracking 10 to 15 minutes to go to a hotel instead of pulling over at a gas station. We have been at wit's end with each other on road trips recently. What should I do? Suck it up and go out of our way to hotel bathrooms or give him an ultimatum?

[PFT Commenter]

That's actually something I've never once considered in my life. What, stopping at a hotel instead of a gas station? Yeah. This guy, he might be a genius. I don't think I'm comfortable enough to do that to just walk in, take a. Is he talking about or pissing? If he's talking about pissing, just suck it up and go into a fast food restaurant or a gas station.

[Big Cat]

I suck it up no matter what. But you're also thinking of nice hotels. The hotels on the side of the highway are not.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that's what he was talking about. He was saying hotel lobbies are pristine. They're clean. They've got nice music playing.

[Big Cat]

I've been into some that are not on the side of the highway. Like, it's not the Four Seasons on the side of the highway. You're going to La Quinta.

[Hank]

Also, if you're on a road trip, like, you can't. You can't be taking luxurious shits.

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

You had this guy has to suck it up. Yeah, suck it up. You're on a road.

[Hank]

Triple is to get from point A to point B.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Hank]

And you got to do whatever it takes to do it, as in as little time as possible.

[Memes]

Wear a diaper.

[PFT Commenter]

It's inconsiderate for the person that's driving or anyone else in the car. Because if you have. If you must stop and take a. At least do them the favor of putting them in a gas station where they could buy Combos. Mountain Dew. Yeah.

[Hank]

Restaurants, usually. It's fine too. They have a lot of stalls.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this would drive me insane. Any. If you're on a road trip and you have to take a 15 minute detour, that's not like, for food. I. This would drive me nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, and he's definitely taking his time in these nice bathrooms, I would say. Yeah, you need that should be your.

[Hank]

Treat at the end of the road trip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach, what do you have?

[Zach]

What if it's for a shit and a continental breakfast? What if he's like, hey, you know.

[Big Cat]

Okay, now I'm in. Now I'm in. Now I'm in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, if we're talking early morning shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, if you. But that's a tough one to pull off.

[Memes]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Is not a guest and just show.

[PFT Commenter]

Up, get a bagel and like a small box of.

[Zach]

I think you act like you've been there. Yeah, they're not, they're not checking keys at the, at the waffle station?

[Big Cat]

No, probably not. Okay, next one.

[Hank]

Hank, my boyfriend and I have an argument. I want him to save money so we can get an apartment together. But all he does is spend money on gambling and electric guitars. He uses the argument that he could be spending on money on drugs instead and that he uses the winnings to buy the guitars. I don't believe that he is profitable and do not know how to get him to stop. Thanks guys. I'm now a two time awl.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's not profitable, not profitable. He's definitely not buying guitars with the game. That's. That's the money that could be going to an apartment.

[Big Cat]

Budget. Gotta set a budget.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta say it might be time to do a strict one in one out policy on the guitars.

[Hank]

Is he in a band? Like you don't need how many electric.

[PFT Commenter]

Guitars you need two if you're. If you don't play live music. I would say. Yeah, two to three.

[Hank]

Like two do play live music.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say two electrics and an acoustic is not unreasonable.

[Big Cat]

Either way, he's got to do a bunch.

[Hank]

But I'm saying, even if you'd like, how many do you need?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. No comment.

[Hank]

Yeah, but you, it's for you, it's like it's a hop. You're not.

[PFT Commenter]

You could always turn two of those guitars into one guitar and just get a double guitar.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Some people thought that I bought Jimmy Page's double guitar from Jim Irsay. I think that's like a two million dollar guitar. I did not buy that guitar. One day though, it will be mine.

[Big Cat]

You're gonna buy it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yes, it will be mine.

[Big Cat]

I. I'll give real advice though. You got it? You can't tell him to stop gambling because he's just. You know what I mean? You can't be like, hey, you're not allowed to gamble because then he's gonna start resenting you. Just budget, budget. Here's what you got a month. Here's what we do in a month to gamble and then save everything else. Sick apartment would be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe you guys do doesn't want to.

[Hank]

Move in with you.

[Big Cat]

That also could be very much.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds like that's exactly what this is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or you could try to suggest like let's do a couple's apartment parlay. We hit this, we get the apartment.

[Big Cat]

We did do that in College to try to get a new tv, but the Seahawks against the Steelers in the super bowl lost.

[Hank]

Hi, pmt. I have a specific vision in mind for how I want to be proposed to. No sports game. Not in public. Family and friends party afterwards, but still a surprise. How do I tell my boyfriend this without ruining the surprise and still making him feel like he has any say in the proposal. Any advice from Maxi as recently engaged man? Thanks.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I love her very strict rules.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is like not on a Jumbotron. Not with a big crowd around me.

[Big Cat]

Tell her.

[Hank]

Sounds like she knows he wants to do it at a game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You just got to tell your. Your best friend to tell him. So simple. I feel like that just happens with everyone. Like the down to the ring where it's like, oh, this is what she likes.

[PFT Commenter]

She's given a pretty narrow example of things that. That are allowed to be done. If it can't be on a Jumbotron and it can't have a screaming crowd around her, like, what else is a guy going to do?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Golden Corral. You're really. You're taking away our Texas roadhouse. Roadhouse. If you're feeling. Yeah. Fancy.

[Big Cat]

The. The surprise is already over. You already are planning it.

[Max]

There's no like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's no surprise.

[Max]

There's no surprise of yes or no. It's just like whether they know what's happening at that.

[Big Cat]

At that moment. Actually, you've. You've now put yourself in a spot where the only way he could truly surprise you is doing it at a sports game. Because you've let him. I'm sure you told your friends to tell him and he's following. So now he's got a. Yeah. This guy. If you're listening guy. And this sounds like your girlfriend. The only way you can surprise her is you got to do it center.

[Booger McFarland]

Court at a sport.

[Big Cat]

Maybe like a mid tier college basketball game.

[PFT Commenter]

If you tell a man that he can't propose to you at a sports.

[Max]

Game, action would be great.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Max would be so sick.

[PFT Commenter]

His only option remaining is that he does a fake proposal to you at a sports game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then he's like sight you off.

[PFT Commenter]

Just kidding.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Or he does it at like they do like a stadium tour. So it's. There's not a game going on at the time. It's not. So it's not in public. It's not a sports game. But it's still in a stadium.

[PFT Commenter]

She said no crowds around though. I'm saying.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. Last One. Hello.

[Hank]

Hank. Big cat and PFT Together, you form one functioning adult. So maybe you can help me with this one.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

After microwaving food, instead of touching the food, my husband leans in, smells it, and somehow decides if it's hot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Is this a superpower or a red flag?

[Memes]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's legit. It's the. The air that goes into your nose.

[Max]

You can feel the steam.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, the closer you get, you can feel it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's good. He's. He's smart. This guy's smart.

[Max]

Does he put his head in the microwave?

[Big Cat]

I hope so. That'd be awesome.

[Booger McFarland]

Microwaves.

[Max]

Something about microwaves scare me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, I feel like I'm gonna get cancer if I'm just around a microwave too much.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone's parents tell them when their kids, like, don't stand.

[Max]

If you stand in front of the microwave, you're gonna get cancer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I got that. Don't stand next to the tv.

[Max]

I would sit right in front of that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. I'd stare at the microwave.

[PFT Commenter]

Microwaves are apparently, like, one of the most dangerous things that we have in our houses. Really? Yeah. If you take, like, do never. Do not ever take apart a microwave, because you'll die. Oh, you'll get electric. They've got, like, a bomb inside of them.

[Big Cat]

I wasn't planning on it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But now I really.

[Max]

It makes sense. It's a nuke.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, you nuke your food.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's a new.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a nuclear weapon in your kitchen.

[Max]

Have you ever heard that?

[Booger McFarland]

People.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Nuke your food.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I like this guy. I think he's got. I think he's got it figured out.

[PFT Commenter]

You can smell the heat.

[Big Cat]

Do you guys save seconds for later?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, of course. Yeah. You start. You take it out with, like, it depends on what it is, but a lot of times, if I. If I'm reheating a coffee or something.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna leave 15 seconds on it, and then I'll take it out. Oh, it's not quite done yet. Let's just finish the 15 seconds, and then if I don't think 15 is enough, I'll just do the Add a minute.

[Max]

I just do 30 seconds every time.

[Big Cat]

I just do popcorn every time.

[PFT Commenter]

Popcorn is crazy.

[Max]

Popcorn is insane.

[Big Cat]

It's the top button.

[Max]

No, but there's, like, if you just click start on most of them, it just does 30.

[Big Cat]

No, mine has. I just click. Popcorn doesn't matter.

[Max]

Popcorn is insane.

[Big Cat]

And then I just watch it for 20 seconds. 30 seconds, whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Instead of punching in the time like a fool.

[Big Cat]

No, I never.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I go 30 seconds and then.

[Max]

And then you can add 30. Add 30.

[Big Cat]

No, I have a popcorn button.

[Max]

Popcorn is crazy. Popcorn is insane.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Max]

Popcorn might be a different sort of setting.

[Hank]

All.

[Big Cat]

I don't give a. And he. He eats it all the same.

[Max]

You'll know that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it does. I take it out and it's hot. Okay. Good show, boys. Let's crazy. Let's do lottery balls. It's brought to you by Jack Pocket. Today's lottery ball segment is brought to you by Jackpot, America's number one lottery app. Jackpots are the talk of the town right now. Powerball, Mega Millions. Everyone's watching those numbers climb.

[PFT Commenter]

15.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Numbers.

[Memes]

3. I thought PFT said 15 and there was a lot of popcorn talk back here. Was that because you said numbers?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Big Cat said numbers.

[Big Cat]

I said numbers during the ad.

[Memes]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

33. 77.

[Max]

82.

[PFT Commenter]

10.

[Max]

99.

[PFT Commenter]

PO 15.

[Big Cat]

44, 86. Would you pick three? 39. Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

[Hank]

Anyone?

[Memes]

Bueller?

[Max]

Diddy?

[Memes]

Woodhead?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

I think we should just do one today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's just do one.

[Memes]

Yeah, why not? Why not? Another?

[Big Cat]

Nah, let's just do one. You're never gonna get it anyway. Now we gotta. We. We can't let you get used to.

[Memes]

You scared?

[Big Cat]

No, not at all.

[Memes]

Sound afraid?

[Big Cat]

No, not scared at all.

[Memes]

Terrified.

[Big Cat]

Press it I'll press it. But it doesn't count.

[Booger McFarland]

This doesn't count.

[PFT Commenter]

Press it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Memes]

What do you mean it doesn't count?

[Big Cat]

This does not count.

[Memes]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

This is not an official lottery.

[Memes]

Ball goes up and number is mine.

[PFT Commenter]

No, correct. You practices sometimes.

[Max]

It doesn't count.

[Big Cat]

All the time. We do practices all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

No, we.

[Big Cat]

Yes, we do. This is a unofficial practice round.

[Memes]

What?

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. Wow.

[Max]

If that was three, that was three.

[Big Cat]

We all would be dead. Yeah, the show. I would have won.

[PFT Commenter]

It would have been.

[Memes]

I would have won. I would have won.

[Big Cat]

No, I would have won.

[PFT Commenter]

He would have said. Every time.

[Big Cat]

I would.

[Memes]

1.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you gotten this? You'd be saying, yeah, I got it. And then we'd all be like, no, you had a practice, and you would go insane.

[Big Cat]

Have you don't make the rules.

[Memes]

I would have had two wins, and PFD would only.

[PFT Commenter]

You have no wins. No wins.

[Big Cat]

And you're never gonna.

[Max]

He also has one.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got multiple wins.

[Memes]

You have a win.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I've got multiple.

[Big Cat]

Multiple wins.

[Memes]

He has a win by himself.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I've got multiple wins.

[Memes]

One win by himself.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty clear that I have multiple wins. Memes. You have one win. You have zero wins.

[Memes]

You're never gonna get one win.

[PFT Commenter]

You're never gonna get it ever. Ever.

[Big Cat]

I actually think you're never gonna get it.

[Memes]

One win. Yeah, acknowledge it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I've got multiple wins. It says right there, winning numbers. I won on 2. I won on 5.

[Memes]

Which one did you pick?

[PFT Commenter]

I got two winning numbers. Which one did you pick? He picked 2.

[Memes]

He picked 5.

[PFT Commenter]

I got 2 and 5. I got 2 and 5.

[Big Cat]

You picked 2 for him.

[PFT Commenter]

I got 2 and 5.

[Memes]

I picked it. Thank you, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

I got 2 and 5.I picked it, but no wins.

[Max]

You were trying to get. The one time that you got it correct was the only time you were trying to get it wrong. You were actively trying to get it wrong.

[Memes]

No, I was trying to get it right. You're always trying to get it.

[Max]

No, no.

[Memes]

You're always trying to get it. You're always trying to get it, and I got it.

[Max]

The goal at that point was like, let me pick the one number that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not going to be memes. It's like, if Sam Darnold won a Super bowl, and you're like, yeah, the jets won a Super Bowl.

[Memes]

It's not true. But I did win. I won that ball.

[Big Cat]

No, you didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I did wrong. I can't believe Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Sa. It.