B (3:19)

Martin might say yeah.

A (3:33)

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C (4:00)

Hey, Jordan had maybe the best box of the night.

A (4:02)

She did.

C (4:03)

Was that her box that had like lt, Michael Jordan, Roy Williams. Were they all in Jordan's box?

A (4:09)

I. I think that was a separate box because I saw in her box was Randy Moss.

C (4:14)

Oh, okay. Still a good box.

A (4:16)

Yes. Great box. As for the game, Bill Belichick has some work to do with unc.

C (4:23)

I would say so. I would say maybe Jordan needs to be allowed back on the sidelines headset. Why are. Why are you kicking Jordan out of all decision making from the team and then acting surprised when you get the kicked out of you by TCU Week 1 of the College football season.

A (4:39)

Yeah, and it was a shit kicking. Listen, Uncle, I don't think UNC's ever been more. I don't want to say back because have they ever. For football, I mean they've had good players, but have they ever.

C (4:51)

Yeah. I mean when, when Butch Jones was just like not letting.

A (4:54)

Yeah.

C (4:54)

The guys go to go to school when they're like skipping classes. They were pretty good then.

A (4:59)

Yeah. But that 7o start to the game where they marched down the field, that felt good.

C (5:04)

Yeah.

A (5:04)

And then everything after felt really bad because I think it was a 410 run by TCU who looked awesome.

C (5:12)

Let me ask you this. When do you think Jordan, not Jordan, but Michael Jordan left the game, I.

A (5:17)

Would say open bar, right after the first drive of the third quarter.

C (5:21)

I think maybe after the opening kickoff of the second half.

A (5:25)

That might.

C (5:25)

Yeah, yeah, that might have been it.

A (5:27)

Yeah, it might have been it. But not a. Not the best start for Bill Belichick at unc. Hank, what did you think about the game? Jordan looked great.

D (5:34)

Jordan looked great.

E (5:35)

It's.

D (5:35)

It's a long season. It's his first year. There's still, you know, he hasn't. These aren't his players.

A (5:40)

Well, no, they, like, literally all are because you got a shitload of transfers. But it's.

D (5:44)

But it's. But it's hard to, you know, get transfers and build a. Build a program that quickly. It's going to take some time.

C (5:49)

I'm going to wait until the university approved documentary series about what's been going on behind the scenes comes out to fully judge what's going on at unc.

A (5:57)

Yeah, I should say they actually were more back than the 7 0. It was when Bill Belichick released the depth chart that was just listing the positions and no names. And. And then when Holly Row interviewed Bill Belichick before the game. I don't know if you can pull up that clip, Max. But very, very funny. A Bill Belichick with his cutoff hoodie in just a very grumpy Bill Belichick way, which was. That was back. That felt like it was back. It was good to have him back in football on the sideline. It was just like an old time. Yeah, this is. This is fun. This is going to be fun. And then it was just not fun.

C (6:31)

He looked good in the, in the Carolina blue uniforms, like in the official team merch.

A (6:36)

Like his eyes were popping.

C (6:37)

That works with Bill.

A (6:38)

Yeah. All right, here it is. Which weird statistic.

B (6:41)

It is 34 years to the day.

A (6:43)

That you debuted as an NFL head coach, and now you're making your debut as a college football coach.

B (6:49)

What's going on inside you right now? Excitement, nerves? What does it feel like? I hope it goes a lot better in the game against Dallas and Jimmy Johnson. They crushed us, so hope it goes better than that. I know that you've got a great motto where you say, practice execution becomes game reality. What have you seen this week in.

A (7:06)

Practice that you think your kids can execute tonight?

B (7:09)

Well, hopefully we can do a good job with our fundamentals, ball security and. And communication. Tell me about the.

A (7:16)

The hoodie, I mean, had to be.

B (7:17)

Cut off sleeves, right? Yeah, it's kind of my thing.

C (7:21)

Thank you, coach.

A (7:22)

Have Fun tonight.

E (7:23)

All right.

A (7:24)

Appreciate. Thank you.

C (7:24)

Still got it. 100% has it. This. This st. This can't be a true stat.

A (7:30)

Oh.

C (7:31)

Based on UNC's quarterback play tonight, Gio Lopez didn't. Did not complete a pass for 128 minutes.

A (7:39)

Yeah, no, that was. That was true.

C (7:41)

That's pretty bad.

A (7:42)

Yeah, it was really bad. It was really, really bad. I don't know if that includes the pick six.

C (7:47)

That's completion to somebody.

A (7:49)

Yeah. He completed someone. Yeah. I. Bill Belichick has to be in hell. Being like, this is not a quarterback. I wanted to coach, but he's coaching him.

C (7:58)

It doesn't look good right now.

A (7:59)

No. Although, hey, List, they haven't really done.

C (8:02)

A whole lot that you can look at besides that first drive of the game.

A (8:05)

Yeah.

C (8:05)

And be like, oh, I see reason for optimism.

A (8:08)

41 14. UNC's getting the ball back. You never know.

C (8:12)

That looked like it might be roughing to punter.

A (8:14)

You never know. It's quick score, stop, score, stop score. I think they'd still be down 3, but that'd be good. Yeah. All right, let's get to the rest of the games. We had an awesome weekend of college football. Okay. Rest of the weekend. What a weekend it was. Where should we start? And should it be. Is Arch Manning ass.

C (8:37)

I was going to say is. Is Alabama ass?

A (8:39)

Well, we got to get. We got to get to Alabama. I thought we'd go chronologically on Saturday because it was a great Saturday. Awesome first week of college football.

C (8:48)

And it was big. It was noon.

A (8:49)

Yep.

C (8:50)

It was Saturday.

A (8:51)

The Ohio State. Texas game kicked us off. And I. Listen, I'll actually start with this. I thought that Ohio State was going to win the game. I bet Ohio State. I am believing in Ohio State just because it was a home environment for them, national champions. Arch Manning's first real start. You saw him last year, obviously playing in spurts. Louisiana, Monroe. I think he came in for a little bit against Georgia, couple packages here and there.

C (9:20)

I think you played a little bit the year before against Texas Tech, maybe.

A (9:23)

But it was like, this was it. This was the first real start. And let's just say it didn't go well because it was basically an entire open mic of Arch Manning jokes on Twitter and in the world, because for three and a half quarters, he looked so lost.

C (9:39)

He looked. He looked bad. He looked like he was stepping away from throws a lot and he was hearing the footsteps. So, like, the defensive line did a great job for Ohio State. Their defense was awesome.

A (9:47)

Defense was incredible.

C (9:48)

Matt Patricia, who goes to college, and then he's like, yeah, I know a lot of shit from the pros that all these offensive coordinators in college, for the most part, haven't seen too much of. So he was kind of dipping in his bag a little bit. But Arch was. He was, like, stepping away from a lot of throws. It looked like he was a little timid. And when it comes to Peyton and to, I guess, a lesser extent, Eli, but mostly Peyton, the best thing about him was, like, how smart he was and how he could pick apart a defense. He knew what was coming. He knew what was happening. Arch hasn't played enough football to be able to even tell, like, does this guy really get it or not? I have an Arch Manning take. I. I don't think it's fair to say that. How old is he right now?

A (10:24)

20, probably. Yeah, I think he's 20.

C (10:26)

I don't think it's fair to say this about arch being only 20 and only 1 real start. So maybe we can bleep out this take, but you guys can hear it.

A (10:34)

Yeah.

C (10:37)

I think he, I, he might be. He might be.

A (10:41)

I'm not going to go that far to say I'm actually going to buy Arch Manning stock, because I don't. I really don't know, like, who does well in that situation. And yes, the name, the recruiting, all these things hurt him. In this case where he's so hyped up, I. At the end of the day, it was his first real start, and it was against the defending national champions in their house. I just don't. I didn't expect him to be awesome. I obviously didn't expect him to be as bad as he was. But I might buy. I might buy all the Arch stock because it's as low as it possibly could be right now.

C (11:14)

I think he's going to be really good. I'm just saying it's. It's a tall hill to climb, to expect him to be like, yeah.

A (11:20)

And it was one of those situations where Ohio State's defense did carry the day. They were incredible. Texas defense was very good, too. Texas. Texas outgained Ohio State, 336 to 203. I know, obviously, a little bit of that was at the end of the game when, when Texas was having to push the ball down the field. Both teams didn't give up a sack. The interception was really bad for Arch. I. He just. He just looked really bad, but I didn't expect him to look great. And then he got roasted beyond belief. And I love the somehow Shador is still alive in college football discourse, being like, hey, keep that same energy for Arch that you did, Shador. I listen when. When you go online in the middle of a game and they have people saying, 9, 11. If Arch Manning was the pilot and it's just a plane missing the twin towers, I think we've reached the point where he's getting roasted, probably properly.

C (12:12)

Yeah, I'd say it's probably a little bit too far.

A (12:13)

Yeah.

C (12:14)

And even on that interception they had. Yeah, it looked bad. I heard Ocho Cinco talking about it. He says the receiver ran the wrong route on it and where he was supposed to, like, come back towards the ball. But overall, Arch didn't look good. He missed some very easy throws. Like, on that last drive of the game, they should have gotten that first down. He put that ball behind the receiver. They weren't able to pick it up. That was the end of the game.

A (12:33)

Also, Sark just still can't coach red zone offense. It's always been an issue for him. It still is an issue for him. That was the clunkiest tush push, whatever that was.

C (12:43)

Yeah.

A (12:44)

It just, he. They can always move the ball and then they get to the red zone and it just doesn't work.

C (12:49)

Yeah. Sometimes just run the ball up the middle. You got. You got some great running backs in Texas. You should use them.

A (12:54)

Yeah. So it was a good start, though. It wasn't, like, the most exciting game. But Ohio State still looks just as good as last year, maybe if not better. And we also had Rogue, which I think was Photoshopped, but it still was funny, because if there's any coach in the country that you're like, he might be a nipple ring guy, it is Ryan Day.

C (13:12)

Yeah. I mean, I choose to believe that it's real.

A (13:15)

Oh, me too.

C (13:16)

I saw it. It looked real enough to me. It's like Jim Trestle always wore the sweater vest. You could never see those things poking through.

A (13:22)

It also just fits. Like, Ryan Day is the guy. He's like, he's kind. He's got some freak to him. And I, I, I. Weirdly, if he had a. If he had nipple piercings, I think I'd respect Ryan Day more.

C (13:33)

So I was thinking about. And again, don't know if it's true or not.

A (13:38)

I don't care.

C (13:38)

But I'm going off the assumption that it is true. It looked. It appeared to be only one nipple was pierced of the two, which tells me. And I saw some other people kind of speculating the same thing. It was, if we win the national championship, I'll pierce my nipple. Nipple piercing.

A (13:51)

I see.

C (13:52)

I like, because if you have two of them.

A (13:53)

Yeah.

C (13:53)

Then that's a freak. But if you got one that's like, okay, I did it for the guys.

A (13:57)

I like to think of it as that. Ryan Day has both nipples pierced in the off season. He's got the chain link in the middle. And then when football comes back, he's like, all right, time to get to business. Take the chain down, take one of them out. We're just going solo. Nipple ring for the season.

C (14:12)

Keep one over the heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to know what Matt Patricia does with that pencil after the game where he sticks that thing. It was nice to see the pencil still there, even though the play sheets laminated.

A (14:20)

For Matt Patricia, it's been laminated forever.

C (14:22)

It has.

A (14:23)

It's been laminated when he was in Detroit. I think it was laminated at the end when he was in the pit with the Patriots.

C (14:28)

Zoom in real hard on that nip.

A (14:29)

Yeah.

C (14:29)

That's what we call.in the eye in Ohio.

A (14:31)

This is also just a great sign of, like, college football. One of the greatest parts about it is the fan bases are so insane that I would like to believe it's real, but if it's not someone, some rival fan base was like, you know what we're going to do? We're going to Photoshop that Ryan Day has a nipple piercing, put it out into the world, and just watch it gain steam.

C (14:53)

So the thing about this picture is I saw this picture everywhere on. On Saturday morning, but it was all the same picture with the red circle correct. So I haven't seen the initial screen grab. I don't even know. Was that from the Texas game?

A (15:06)

Yeah, yeah, no, that was from. That was exactly what he was wearing. I'm saying it was definitely Photoshopped and it was a really good Photoshop. Yeah, here's the. Yeah, so it's the real one. Is maybe not.

C (15:19)

Did they take his and then make two smaller nipples in the Photoshop?

A (15:22)

Next they gave him a nipple piercing. I like it, though. Yeah, it fits him.

C (15:26)

I would like to see this happen more often with public figures.

A (15:29)

It fits him perfectly.

C (15:31)

Okay. So I'm glad that it's Photoshopped. I thought. No.

A (15:33)

I knew.

C (15:33)

I was like. I was like 50, 50. But again, it was so good that I chose to believe that it's real.

A (15:38)

Right.

C (15:38)

But I. I got a good idea for maybe your football picks punishment at the end of the year.

A (15:43)

Oh, a little nipple piercing.

C (15:45)

Maybe a little nipple piercing.

A (15:46)

Nipple piercing. So wait, going around the room is everyone who. Who's buying stock in Arch, who's like, he sucked.

C (15:52)

I 100. I'm going to buy stock in Arch Manning. I don't actually think that he's dumb. I. I just think that he hasn't played enough football to get the Manning superpower, which is being able to see what a defense is going to do and adjust everything on the fly and beat you with your mind. He hasn't. It's impossible for him to do that right now. I think physically he'll. He'll get there. He'll be more accurate. And I don't think he's going to see too many defenses that are as good as Ohio State.

D (16:16)

I'd be shorting him for this year.

A (16:17)

You're done.

D (16:18)

I don't think he's going to be Heisman. You know, he's not going to Heisman, Heisman form or even close to it. Like, it's not going to be a bounce back where he looked that bad. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, no, he's actually really good.

C (16:29)

I also think.

D (16:30)

I think he'll figure something out, but.

C (16:31)

I think a big part of that is going to be just get the ball to Wingo. Let him run with the ball. He's so fucking fast. And they didn't really use him.

A (16:38)

It was. It was getting so bad for Arch that people were just pulling up his high school tapes where he was like, dominating a bunch of like, five, six white kids and being like, look at this again. He wasn't. He. It would be one thing if he was drafted number one overall. He still has a college career to play. Didn't. Didn't. Didn't. Arch, his. Archie, his grandfather say he's staying for another year.

C (17:01)

Yeah, but.

A (17:02)

So he's got two more years.

C (17:03)

Then Arch said, Archie doesn't really know.

A (17:05)

Okay.

C (17:06)

Plans are. So whatever.

A (17:07)

If he's bad, he's going to stay for another year.

D (17:09)

He also has the Baker Mayfield effective. Like, he looked like shit. Then it goes to commercial break, and there's just six Archmage commercials. I don't think that helped because that I met on Parkers and every time it came on, I was just like, g. Yeah, Complete a pass first and, you know, stop worrying about the commercials.

C (17:24)

Good news for him is he's got some. Some pretty easy games coming up over the next couple weeks. So he should. He should start to look more like the Arch that we thought and Again, if you're, like, mad at Arch for being. For being ass, really, we. We need to take some accountability in the media as a whole because we saw another man in coming into college football, and we spent the last two years being like, this guy's going to be the best that we've ever seen from that family.

A (17:46)

Max, are you buying stock?

B (17:48)

Yeah, for sure. I bet on Texas, so I was really rooting for him to, like, see what the Internet did if he came back and tied that game up.

A (17:57)

Yeah, it, like, had a chance.

B (17:59)

He started off that drive with. With a good throw, and it looked like the entire Internet was gonna have to eat all their. But then obviously he it up.

A (18:06)

But.

B (18:06)

Yeah, no, I'm buying stock. I'm buying stock.

C (18:08)

Also. Was that Caleb Downs with that last tackle of the game?

A (18:11)

Yeah.

C (18:11)

That was incredible play by him. He's so good.

A (18:14)

He's awesome. Max, or. Sorry, Zach and Memes, are you guys buying stock or selling stock?

E (18:21)

I'll.

C (18:22)

I think I'm gonna sell stock because.

A (18:23)

I think there's a chance he saw.

C (18:25)

Just how many memes were online and just may have.

A (18:28)

He might be in a spin zone he can't come out of. Yeah, that's definitely. I hope he took the advice of his uncles being like, don't be online ever, because it was horrific how fast people jumped on him.

C (18:40)

It was bad.

A (18:41)

It was so bad. It's the down. Like when everyone says, oh, his last name gives him so much. His last name also gives him just years of people being sick of Mannings dumping on him to a level that is just nuclear. Yeah.

C (18:56)

Every enemy that Eli or Peyton has ever made now has a new focus for all their hatred.

A (19:00)

Yeah, Memes, I think he'll be okay, but I'm selling. Oh, okay.

C (19:07)

I don't think he's at the level that people think.

A (19:09)

Okay. Okay. They're holding him to. All right, the next game. That happened on Saturday. And we'll touch some smaller games after we get the big three. Bama's done. Bama's cooked. Kaylin DeBoer. They got absolutely manhandled. I. I was way wrong on this because I thought we. You heard us on Friday. I thought Ryan Grubb coming back with Kaylin DeBoer was going to fix some of the offense. That first drive looked like it did. I think they had, like, 55 yards rushing on the first drive. I think they ended up with, like, 85 yards the whole. The whole game. They got. They didn't just lose. They got absolutely manhandled. Florida State and Gus Malzahn, the Alabama killer. Gus Malzan is 6 and 7 as a coordinator or offense or head coach against Alabama, which you're like, oh, that's a losing record. No, no, that's. Guys went their entire careers without beating Nick Saban. Gus Malzahn had them in fits, was just running the ball down their throats, just mauled them. I thought Bama's defense was going to be awesome. It's not Alabama. You are now just a regular program with the rest of us.

C (20:17)

Alabama is back to what Alabama was before Nick Saban. They had a great run with Bear Bryant. Then they tried to figure out everything possible under the sun to replace Bear Bryant and they never really did. And then Nick Saban, the best, maybe the best college coach ever.

A (20:30)

He's the best college coach ever.

C (20:31)

Well, Bear Bryant and Nick Saban, they got the two right there.

A (20:34)

I think Nick Saban.

C (20:35)

So then Nick Saban shows up and all of a sudden just dominates college football. This is going back to Bama. This is what. It's what you were before Nick Saban was there. That's what you're going to be after Nick Saban leaves. Unless you find the next Nick Saban. And they got their ass kicked. It was physical domination from Florida State, like from start to finish. It was just everything they wanted to do, especially on offense. Malzan was doing the shit that he used to do. Like the. The tricky stuff.

A (20:59)

Oh, yeah.

C (20:59)

That he hasn't done in years. Like looking over to the sideline, pretending they were getting the play called in. Quick snap, run the play, rushing, breaking.

A (21:07)

The huddle quickly and snapping it. Yeah, yeah.

C (21:09)

Gus Malzon was back to everything that he used to do back in the day. And yeah, I think Florida State might also just be really good.

A (21:16)

Yeah, well, shout out Thomas Castellanos because that is the definition of backing up the shit talking you did. And he did it all summer, remember in June, he said they don't have Nick Saban to save them. I just don't see them stopping me. He said about Bill, Brian. Bill, Brian and I butted heads early in the season. I got banged up in a few games. We had a meeting. It kind of blew up my face. I did so much for that program. I just wasn't repaid the right way about transferring. And now he is selling Nick Saban can't save save you shirts on his website. I love it. Like, there's nothing better in sports than having trash talk and backing it up. And he did exactly that. The. As for Bama fans So I have two, two pieces of cope that I would like to have you guys judge. One is in the late game. But this was from message board genius who has a great Twitter account who just trolls the message boards and watches people freak out in college football. This he, he got from Crimson Cade who wrote, I know this is easy for us Bama fans since we lost, but the other games in game day just doesn't feel the same. I feel like not many people care anymore and it's so sad to me. What do you all think is college football dying for Bama fans because they no longer win every game?

C (22:32)

They're gaining a lot of perspective about life. We're going to see a ton of golfers coming out of Alabama in the next like 5, 10 years because like football. What is football?

A (22:40)

I just love this guy being like, man, football isn't as fun now that I'm not winning every single game. Every single time. We go out there and physically dominate every single opponent and never having to worry about losing to an unranked team. So Caleb DeBoer has lost four games to unranked teams and I believe he's been at Alabama for 14 games. Let me pull up the stat. It is. Yeah, so he, he is. He, he is 4 and 4 right now. Oh, no, sorry, that was. Yes, he's lost four games to unranked teams in a season in one game. So whatever. However many games. I think that's 14 games. Nick Saban, in 17 seasons lost four games total to unranked teams. He, he actually had a streak where he won 100 straight games against unranked opponents. He never lost to these teams. He never, ever lost these teams. And not only that, but I think there's a double digit. I think Caleb DeBoer has now lost four games as double digit favorites. It's different. It's different. And the, like, the memes that are going around about Calyn Debord, how he changed Nick Saban's office to a T mobile store. It does feel.

C (23:49)

What do you mean?

A (23:50)

Have you not seen these?

C (23:51)

No, I didn't see the T mobile store.

A (23:52)

Pull up the pictures. He, Nick Saban used to have an office that was great. It basically looked like Bear Bryant's office. It was a time capsule. And now Caleb DeBoer went in and renovated everything. And it does look like a T mobile.

C (24:04)

Yeah, that looks like. It looks like a cell phone store. It looks like a set that they build in like two days on ESPN to do like one interview in. Yeah, the name, it's too sanitary.

A (24:14)

The name Kalin now that it like light is being shown on it. It's a stripper name. It's a hot stripper name.

C (24:22)

If it had, if it was K.

A (24:23)

A L, Y, N, it's still a hot stripper. Maybe two L, E, N kill deboer.

C (24:28)

Yeah, I saw, I saw this post. Our good friend Paul Finebaum, he opens up the phone lines on Mondays and that's where you get the real takes. That's where you get the real Alabama fans that call in and they, they weigh in and they, they let you know what needs to happen. This is from legend. He says we don't need a marriage counselor. This is a full fledged divorce now. It's only a matter of when we run your ass off. Now I'm not saying I hate your ass, but if you were on life support, I'd pull the plug and charge my phone. That's pretty good.

A (24:56)

Here's the, here's another one pretty good from legend. Diego Ricardo said we gotta up the toxicity, get him down in his feelings. Maybe infidelity with a co worker will be just the thing that will make him feel loved again. Then we can hit him with the moral turpit clause. They're trying to set him up to paying a secretary. It's also crazy because this is the first time that Alabama has been bad and they'll probably still end up winning eight, nine games, whatever, but it's the first time they've been below.500 at any point in any season since the end of the 2006 season. There was no social media back then. Like this is, this is unchartered territory. Alabama has been the dominant force in college football since Twitter, since Instagram, since Facebook. Like all these things. The world is so different than the last time Alabama sucked and now they're just another program and it's. The downfall is going to be fun to watch. And I mean credit to Brandon Walker. He said that he's going to get run out. I think he has a $60 million by L clause.

C (26:03)

No, it's a good point. Alabama, they've been good at football. The last time that they weren't was in the Bush administration. Yeah, pretty crazy to think about. And then Big cat, have you thought about it? Have you thought about it with Wisconsin?

A (26:16)

No, because here's the problem. So I had the brief thought because Wisconsin plays Alabama in two weeks. So the unfortunate thing for me is that Alabama was not good last year either. I mean not to Alabama stand standards and we got like 50 piece by them. So yeah, we're going to lose that game by a lot.

C (26:32)

That might be a get. Well, they got to get right game next week against Louisiana Monroe.

A (26:37)

I wish I could get myself there. But then I remembered that I went to the game last year where again Alabama was mortal because they lost to Oklahoma, they lost to Vanderbilt, all these teams and then we got absolutely smoked. Maybe we'll keep it closer.

C (26:49)

I mean it is going to be fun. If this is a season of Alabama downfall. Oh yeah. Just to see like how Caleb, I think, I think Brandon Walker might have been right that you're supposed to be sec. He's not sec, dude.

A (27:01)

He followed Nick Saban.

E (27:03)

It's.

A (27:03)

It's a lot of money. He's getting a lot of money.

C (27:05)

Yeah, it's a great deal for him. He also had a pretty good setup in Washington.

A (27:09)

Yeah. But it was, it's like, I think it was double the money. Yeah. Which is hard to turn down. Yeah, no, it's already going bad. Did you see there's a press conference today? Can you find it where he, he was asked, hey, you said that you had a great week of practice. And he was like, I said that. And they went, he and the reporter went back and forth on whether he said it or not. It was basically a Francesca bit. You can already feel, feel the pressure coming here. It is just how much do you self scout the preparation before games and.

E (27:37)

Are there times as a coach where.

A (27:38)

Maybe you notice during the week that things might not be going the way.

E (27:41)

That you want them to?

C (27:42)

You said, what do you mean?

A (27:43)

Great week. A great week. He said a great week of preparation for this week. You're saying going up to without a Florida State before that game. I said that?

E (27:53)

You said that?

A (27:54)

Yeah, before.

E (27:55)

Oh, just.

A (27:55)

Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah, it's bad. That's bad.

B (28:00)

Our guys did.

A (28:01)

I mean, that's not a hard question.

C (28:03)

No, it's not.

A (28:05)

That's a very like Football 101. Every coach says, hey, we had a great week of practice and they get killed. And then you got to answer that and be like, yeah, I don't know what happened.

C (28:12)

I mean, Saban had it right. He would just, he would answer questions in his own way, regardless of the question that was asked. He would just speak about the thing that he was going to talk about no matter what.

A (28:21)

Yeah.

C (28:21)

Then if there was a dumb question, he'd just be like, that's a dumbass question. Next question.

A (28:25)

Yeah.

C (28:25)

Kaylin DeBoer, he's feeling so much pressure that now he's like trying to interact with reporters.

A (28:31)

Yeah. And it's just. I mean Alabama used to. They were a machine that would fear, you know, strike fear in every single opponent they played. And going into Florida State and having again I agree Florida State like that. That was awesome. That Florida State, after a year from hell last year they have this huge win in Tallahassee. And I'm happy for Florida State fans because they did. I know the guy didn't eat the poop, but they basically went through eating poop for an entire season. Yeah. After being snubbed from the College Football Playoff the year before. So I'm very happy for Florida State and I think Florida State might be good but at the same time there's just no fear. The fear is the fear that Alabama used to Sabins Alabama teams used to strike in opponents does is not there when you get physically manhandled. Like guys were getting blown off the line of scrimmage. They were getting fucking tossed in downfield blocking. That just didn't happen with Nick Saban.

C (29:25)

Yeah, it was a physical game from Florida State.

A (29:28)

It was.

C (29:28)

They were. They were Fun to watch. Complete 180 from what we saw at the start of the season last year.

A (29:32)

One more. One more message for genius. This is from Jelsik Sturm. He said that Nick. This is all on Saban. He had a golden opportunity to fix college football but chose to retire. If he had stayed and built a large nil fund, bought the best team every year and showed winning national championships down shoved winning national championships down America's throat. They demand change and Congress would have acted. College football only changed when he made them change to stop him. I love him but he could have fixed this so he could. Nick Saban actually ruined all of college football.

C (30:03)

Well, it's true. Nick Saban did ruin Alabama football. By being so good at coaching Alabama football he made it impossible to live up the standard.

A (30:09)

The amount of. The amount of Alabama fans that are going to come out of the woodwork being like college football just isn't the same anymore and I ruined it. Transfer portal ruined it. Have you ever as if they were. If they were still winning that wouldn't. That would be the same tune.

C (30:22)

Y' all have thought about how weird it is that we sit down every Saturday and we watch 18 year olds and we scream at them and carry on it does that doesn't sit right with me.

A (30:29)

Are you doing Bush?

C (30:30)

Let's move on that epl. Let's watch some soccer.

A (30:33)

Who is that?

C (30:33)

Nottingham Force that now that's a football team.

A (30:35)

Who is that? Bush.

C (30:37)

Real football.

A (30:38)

Is that Bush?

C (30:38)

Now this is. This is James from Alabama.

A (30:41)

Oh, okay. Nice. Thank you for the call. James.

C (30:43)

James Fish.

A (30:45)

Wait, are you a Florida State guy? Zach, I do like to watch Florida State play football. That's your team, right? If I had to make a grand. If I had to pick a team to ride for, I would have to pick Florida State.

C (30:55)

Yeah.

A (30:55)

That's the closest to where you grew up, right? Yeah. Yeah. So did you watch and I did go to. I watched part of the game. I got some reports from. On this. On the field. My brother was at the game.

C (31:05)

They got to storm the field.

A (31:05)

That was cool. New stadium, fresh storm. Break it in. Love that. Yeah. I mean, kids should always storm it. It was awesome. Yeah. Did you go outside this weekend? Three days.

E (31:17)

I did.

A (31:17)

I went on some walks. We had some. I made some returns. It was Target. No, different store. Okay.

B (31:24)

Did you go to the street?

A (31:25)

Yeah, I hit the street. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.

E (31:29)

Good street.

A (31:30)

Good street. All right, last big game and then we'll hit everything else. The Clemson vs. LSU game on Saturday night. First takeaway I had of this is that this is why every single game should be played on campus. Because it was awesome. And I hate, like, the Syracuse, Tennessee game being played in Atlanta just had no juice. South Carolina, Virginia Tech, no juice. Play every game on campus. That's what makes the sport so much fun. Even if we have to sit there for a 20 minute delay while Clemson gets on a bunch of buses, which gotta be one of the dumbest traditions of all time.

C (32:07)

Yeah, you go. You go to the hill. You get off the bus. You. You run down the hill, which seems really dangerous.

A (32:12)

Well, Dabo runs down the hill.

C (32:14)

Yeah.

A (32:15)

Then everyone else runs down the hill. And the tiny little cannon. I actually have no problem with the running down the hill and touching the rock. The fact that they were showing us. All the Clemson players pile into this bus and Clemson fans, like you don't understand, they all get in the bus and they go around the stadium. It's so fucking cool. No, it's not. That's not cool. The bus. I. I don't need the bus. I don't care about the bus.

C (32:36)

Yeah. Especially when it delays the start of a game I've been waiting all day for. Yeah. But yeah, LSU's defense.

A (32:41)

Awesome.

C (32:42)

Awesome again. Awesome. They were so bad the last few years. Harold Perkins, I think he's healthy now.

A (32:47)

Yeah.

C (32:47)

And he was just like wrecking the entire game plan.

A (32:50)

Their D line was. Was incredible. It was Such a good game. Kate Clubnik, Maybe not. Well, I think he'd still be fine.

C (32:58)

Yeah, I think, I think he's a good quarterback.

A (32:59)

Although the ACC looks a little bit better than everyone thought.

C (33:02)

I think, I think Club Nick's going to be a fine quarterback. I think that it was two really good teams playing against each other. I think that Nussmeier is a little bit better right now and I think that LSU's defense made the difference. And although LSU got on that touchdown. Oh yeah, the touchdown that they took away. I don't, I don't know what it catches anymore. I really don't like. I understand that the ball shifted a little bit after he caught it. Took two steps, went through the end zone, hit the pylon, fell on the ground. I understand the ball moved, but that's still a touchdown. That looks like a touchdown to me.

A (33:33)

Yeah.

C (33:34)

If that's not a touchdown, then I don't know what I've been watching.

A (33:36)

It was. I'm happy that didn't like decide the game. Yeah, it would have been absolute. But yeah, LSU's defense was incredible. Nussmeier like their running back was awesome. Brian Kelly finally gets a monkey off his back in terms of winning week one with lsu.

C (33:52)

And now he also got trucked on the sideline.

A (33:54)

Well, he trucked himself.

C (33:55)

I thought the ref ran into him.

A (33:57)

No, he fell.

C (33:58)

I thought the ref back pedal into him.

A (33:59)

No, he fell.

C (34:00)

It was non contact.

A (34:01)

Yeah. Then he got up and he started screaming at the ref. He like tumbled. It was kind of like a simultaneous. He was next to the ref.

C (34:09)

Yeah, I thought that there was contact. I thought maybe they got tripped up.

A (34:12)

No, I, I'm pretty sure he just tumbled and then he was very embarrassed and started screaming at the ref.

C (34:18)

That's a good, good move on his part.

A (34:19)

Oh, absolutely. You gotta, you gotta maybe stay down a little bit longer too.

C (34:22)

You know how Belichick used to always complain about the fact that, you know, football is a billion dollar industry and we don't have a camera on the sidelines. We don't have a camera on the, on the goal line. Why didn't we not have a close up camera of Brian Kelly getting ran over? Yeah, just eating on the side.

A (34:38)

See their legs might have gotten tangled but the ref didn't like hit him. Yeah, yeah, the ref didn't hit him at all. Yeah, it was all Brian Kelly's fault. He was farther out on the field than the ref.

C (34:46)

Yeah, I thought they might have gotten twisted up, but we need, there needs to Be angle of this. I need to see that again.

A (34:51)

All right, I alluded to it, but I have, I have some more cope if you'd like. Okay. We had the Bama cope.

C (34:56)

I was just going to say I think LSU has another great running back in Kate Durham.

A (35:00)

Yes. Awesome. Awesome. He. He just has that look too of an lsu. Kind of looks like Clyde Edwards.

C (35:06)

Yeah, he's.

A (35:07)

He's a little small. He's just an absolute beast. That. That run he made in the first quarter where he was dead to rights and was able to keep his balance and ended up being like a 20 yard run when it was gonna be a five yard loss. He was awesome. All right, you ready for this cope? So we have the Alabama cope on one side of college football is just not the same anymore. Here's my favorite cope that I saw again for message board genius for Clemson. Clemson has the best college football team in America, period. You say, are you stupid or just plain dumb? I'm neither. Clemson is the best college team in America because other than the military academies, Clemson is the only college football team. Yes. Dabo brought in three players from the portal. Three. But look at the rosters of LSU, Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, etc. Their teams are nothing but a team of all stars assembled from the best players for many teams by what for decades would be a recruiting violation and tampering and most would have received the death penalty for the violations. Am I disappointed about losing? Hell yeah. But think about this. How many of the kids that are switching schools at random? The Tennessee quarterback is at his third or fourth school. That's not true. Oh, oh. Aguilar is. Yeah. Not because they love the school. They love the money. You can't blame the athlete. Most of them have never had any money. But if the rules aren't fixed, we're simply watching a minor league NFL. And these are the facts.

C (36:31)

This is the only college football team.

A (36:33)

Yep.

C (36:33)

I like that. I like.

A (36:34)

This is some awesome, awesome Cope. The only school that still does it. The old school way of recruiting respect.

B (36:42)

To the military school.

A (36:43)

Yeah. Actually not the military school.

C (36:45)

Navy might be better.

A (36:46)

Yeah.

C (36:47)

But yeah, I like the hand waving where they're just like, yeah, we have a couple guys that came in through the portal.

A (36:52)

Yeah.

C (36:53)

But besides those also shout out to Dabo's son, Clay. Yeah, they've got. It's the third son of Davos that is on the team right now and they've all held. They've been the holder for the team every time.

A (37:04)

Love that.

C (37:04)

And he just got a Scholarship, which is great. Which is important because, like, you know, you never know. Like, you know, things happen. Didn't know if he was going to be able to afford his tuition, but now that his dad put him on scholarship, it's all good.

A (37:15)

Yeah. So that's, that's the Clemson line of thinking. Now they're basically like, hey, listen, we're the only school still playing under the old rules, which. Why would you be playing under the old rules?

C (37:25)

Yeah, it doesn't make any.

A (37:26)

Why wouldn't you go to the transfer portal?

C (37:28)

Did you stay up afterwards and watch a little bit of Utah?

A (37:31)

I watched a little Utah. I also watched Cal. That lefty freshman quarterback is electric. Yes, he is, but. Yes, Utah. Nico.

C (37:39)

Nico. I have a take on Nico.

A (37:41)

He's. Well, yeah, go ahead. I want to hear your take.

C (37:44)

Should he be a receiver?

A (37:46)

Oh, my take was different. My take was. I actually think Nico made the right call because he's not going to be an NFL quarterback, so you might as well get the money now.

C (37:52)

Get well. Yes. Well, the thing is he's getting less money now than he would have at Tennessee. Yeah, he actually ended up losing money by making this. Yeah, I, I think he's very fast. I think he's, he's got great change of direction. I think he has no idea how to throw like an intermediate pass whatsoever.

A (38:10)

Also, their defense, I mean, Utah, it was the easiest an offense has ever looked. They made it look like it was seven on seven. Yeah.

C (38:17)

Nico, I'm a receiver.

A (38:18)

That's.

C (38:19)

That's what I'm calling him.

A (38:20)

All right, Notre Dame. Miami was awesome. Carson Beck has been taking a lot of. Has been on a lot by Georgia fans. Was cool to see him have a big moment. Be like, hey, I fell in love with football again. Probably didn't hurt that he got paid a lot of money to go to Miami as well, but that was an awesome game. I actually, Other than the fact that Notre Dame got mauled on both lines, I like CJ Carr. Like, that was his first start on the road. Hostile environment. He looked. He made some big plays. He made some not great plays, but I feel like if Notre Dame. I'm. I'm not going to throw out Notre Dame.

C (38:56)

No, I think they're. I think they're a fine team. I think Carr needs to figure out when he's going to get hit and protect himself.

A (39:02)

It was his first start. Yeah.

C (39:03)

Yeah, his first start. He'll figure that out. I think they're both good teams. I think that Miami is going to be for Real. I think Notre Dame is probably going to win a shitload of games this year and there'll be a different looking team by the end of it.

A (39:13)

It was also just the perfect Crystal ball experience because it was. Crystal ball is an incredible recruiter. He. He is really good on the lines. You can see. You saw what Miami was able to do. That. That drive they had to start the third quarter was just man football. And then at the end of the game, he turtled again, being like, hey, we'll leave this up to the. We'll leave a 47 yarder up to a kicker. And it worked out, but that was about to be. If that. If that kick is missed. And the way they played that last sequence. Yeah. Oh, boy, would he been. Would he been getting some heat today.

C (39:47)

It was a kicker that they didn't even know was going to be their starting kicker until like five days ago. And so they're like, yeah, we'll take our chances. We'll roll the dice on this. But then at the end, at the very end of the game, the dogs on the defensive line were like, okay, we're gonna. We're just gonna dominate Notre Dame strength, which is their offensive line, and they did it. So I feel like Miami is going to be a team that's going to be sticking around and they're. Listen, Carson Beck looked way better than he did in the past at Georgia.

A (40:11)

He was dealing with injuries last year. He had not the best O line and receivers, but yeah, he looked. He looked good.

C (40:17)

Didn't Notre Dame have a receiver named Great House last year? Wasn't he pretty good?

A (40:21)

I believe so.

C (40:22)

Did he play at all?

A (40:23)

Did Jeremiah Love get. Jeremiah Love got, like they said before the season, they're going to feature him.

C (40:29)

So.

A (40:29)

And then they just didn't give him the ball.

C (40:31)

They didn't. Until then they started feeding them a little bit at the end because I think. I think on the sideline they were like, hey, you know, he's only got six carries right now. And so then they fed him a little bit more down the stretch. But I remember Great House being a pretty good wide receiver. And all they seem to have, besides, besides Love, was Face On.

A (40:49)

Yeah.

C (40:50)

Is that how you pronounce his name?

A (40:51)

Yeah, yeah.

C (40:51)

Face On. That's the bounciest dude ever. He just bounces off people.

A (40:54)

He's awesome. We. We're gonna have to find probably a new Heisman pet, because that was not. I thought they were going to give the ball to Jeremiah Love. He was trying. He was trying to Hurdle everyone.

B (41:03)

Yeah, every time. Literally every time he touched the ball, he just spammed the hurdle.

A (41:07)

That's what you want out of your Heisman bag.

B (41:10)

He's literally nowhere to go. And he just kept jumping, like, willing.

A (41:14)

A Heisman moment.

C (41:15)

Every. Yeah, every moment's a Heisman moment. If you look at the Heisman Trophy, that. That guy's got two feet on the ground. Look at the trophy love.

A (41:23)

All right. Other games. Did you guys see that both of Diego Pavia's brothers got arrested on Saturday night in Nashville?

C (41:30)

I love that. I love that.

A (41:33)

Vandy. Vandy needs, like, an edge. That is a good edge to have.

C (41:36)

It's pretty tough to get arrested in Nashville. I want to know what they were. They, like, throwing furniture off a building.

A (41:41)

I think they were just both publicly intoxicated. But I just. I saw that and I was like, wow, that was that. Like, that tells me Vandy might be for real in the sec. Yeah, because you need. You need a little edge. You can't be just same old Van.

C (41:54)

You got to stand out to get arrested on Broadway.

A (41:57)

Yeah.

C (41:57)

You have to be doing some. Some wild shit.

A (41:59)

All the way back to Friday night. Nebraska wins a nail biter against Cincinnati. And Dylan Rayola just lived his fantasy. That was. It was crazy. He was. The way he came out of the tunnel in. In Patrick Mahomes Stadium. He was living a fantasy. He had been cosplaying a fantasy.

C (42:18)

He'd been practicing the. The run out, doing the moves exactly the same. That must have been really weird for Patrick Mahomes to watch that up front. Yeah, right.

A (42:26)

Yeah. The little. The. The get the play in hands that he does. That is just a straight copy of Patrick Mahomes. But again, God. God made him this way.

C (42:34)

He did every move that Mahomes does when he's running out on the field.

A (42:38)

It's.

C (42:38)

It's just bizarre. Yeah, it's very strange.

A (42:42)

All right. Other games, JMU won Wisconsin one. Yeah. Also got our quarterback injured for the third straight year. I think Billy Edwards can be okay, but it was just like, not again, Max. Penn State all time, non cover.

B (42:53)

I was so pissed about that.

C (42:55)

I was so pissed.

A (42:56)

Not good. Not good.

B (42:57)

But they. I mean, they're fine. They beat you in LV by 100.

A (43:01)

Jackson Arnold looked awesome for Auburn running the football. And Auburn looked like they might have a little juice to him this year. And then also Georgia Tech shout out Georgia Tech at Colorado. Not the best coaching by Dion at the end of the game. Georgia Tech I thought was cooked. They had three they had three turnovers in the first eight minutes.

C (43:19)

So I missed the end of this game and I had bet on Georgia Tech and I thought I was after, like the first quarter. Plus, I didn't know that Dion was going to have the Depends tent set up on the sideline, which is. That's very impactful.

A (43:29)

So the best way to describe it is you remember when I used to play Doug's and there were times at the end of the games where I would have more timeouts than seconds. Being able to use them. That was kind of what happened where it's like, hey, what are you saving it for? There's actually no time to even take the timeouts anymore.

E (43:49)

Right.

A (43:50)

Be like, oh, look at me. I have all three of my timeouts. There's seven seconds left. It was kind of one of those situations. It's got to clean that up. Got to clean that up. Tennessee looks like they made the right call, although Nico made the call. But they're going to be better with Aguilar.

C (44:04)

Yeah, Aguilar looked pretty good. Yeah, his deep ball looks nice. The defense didn't look that great for Tennessee, but. But they took care of business. I mean, it was Syracuse.

A (44:12)

Well, they also had. I think they were on their, like, four string nose tackle by like maybe the third quarter and it was. It showed. So maybe they'll get a little healthier. We.

C (44:21)

What are we looking at for best week two matchups?

A (44:24)

Best week two matchups probably Oklahoma versus Michigan. Bryce Underwood came out, looked decent against New Mexico. Shout out. New Mexico's head coach, Jason Ek. He's the guy who took Oregon to the rope, to the, to the limit last year with Idaho. Yeah. He's now at New Mexico. He had an awesome trick play to score a touchdown. Michigan, same guy. He's got a binder on the sideline. He's like. He's. He's one of my favorite college coaches. He's a little sloppy. And I mean that with all due respect because I don't want my coach to like. Matt Rule lost too much weight. Yep. Would you agree?

C (44:59)

I would agree.

A (45:00)

Matt Rule lost too much weight, but Jason Ak, He's. He's a. He's a very good coach. He. He had Michigan a little bit nervous there for a second, but yeah, that would probably be the best matchup.

C (45:09)

Michigan, Oklahoma, that's. Oh, we also have Cyhawk.

A (45:12)

Yep.

C (45:12)

We got the side.

A (45:13)

I'll be there. Big noon. I'll be there as well.

C (45:15)

Excited about that? Yeah. That looks like the best ones this weekend.

A (45:18)

Yeah, Week one Was I. I'm great schedule. I'm happy they loaded the week one up because it was awesome. Did you guys see the, the, the storm at Texas Tech that looked like it was. The world was ending?

C (45:30)

It looked like an atom bomb exploded.

A (45:32)

Yeah. Maryland might have a quarterback, by the way. Yeah, good.

C (45:35)

He's a freshman, right?

A (45:36)

Oh, yes, we should mention. What the fuck? Northwestern, you fucking scumbag pieces of shit. Did you guys see this story? Tulane wanted to wear. So it was the 20th anniversary of when the levy broke for Katrina. I think it was like to the day almost. And Tulane requested to wear their all white jerseys in honoring the, the 20th anniversary of the hurricane Katrina. Northwestern said, no, I did see that. And then Tulane put the beat down on him. And then.

C (46:07)

Yeah, then, then Red Slap talked a little shit to the, to the coach after the game. But then I saw some of the fans of Northwestern like, responding to allegations of being soft on. On Twitter and they were like, well, what do you, what do you expect? We're a bunch of Chicago kids. You think that we're going to go down there into Louisiana, we're going to wear black uniforms? Like that's, that's unsafe for us. It's like, yeah, no, that's soft. Yes.

A (46:28)

Yeah. Also, could you wear. You could wear purple.

C (46:30)

Yeah, you could do whatever you want. You wear purple, you do whatever you want uniforms.

A (46:33)

I just would like to think that Ravel was the one who said no.

C (46:37)

Probably.

A (46:37)

Yeah, but that's. I, that's something I wish I had known before. I would have sulain for everything because that's. You can't, you can't be a bigger dick than to be like, no, you can't wear these uniforms to honor Katrina.

C (46:48)

Ravel probably has a seat from the Superdome. Yeah, he probably bought that.

A (46:52)

Yeah, yeah. Or a piece of the, the roof.

C (46:56)

Yeah. Got to get the shingle that fell off.

A (46:59)

Did you guys see Devin Hester Jr. Who is incredible return. Did you guys hear the follow up to that?

C (47:06)

Nope.

A (47:06)

That is not Devin Hester's son.

C (47:08)

His name is Devin Hester Jr.

A (47:09)

There are two Devin Hester, Kevin Hester. It's like, nice legend has a son, Devin Hester Jr. Who plays college football. And then there's also a Devin Hester Jr who plays college football at Furman, who returned a kick for a touchdown.

C (47:23)

Now, do you think he, he became really good at returning kicks because his name was Devin Hester. Do you think every coach that he's had has been like, we, we got Devin Hester. Our team.

A (47:31)

It's crazy. I don't understand how this is possible. If you look, it's. He is not the son of. Of Bears hall of Famer Devin Hester.

C (47:41)

He's a little smaller.

A (47:42)

Yeah, but it's. But also, Devin Hester has a son named Devin Hester Jr. Where does he play? I don't know. We got to find that out. Let me find that out. Devin Hester's Hester's son. College football. Oh, wait. Maybe it is definitely. Wait, I read this whole thread that it was not Devin Hester's son. We might just have to cut this whole thing.

C (48:02)

I'm very confused.

A (48:04)

All right, so I might have even gotten.

C (48:05)

Wait. Devin Hester Jr. Returns kick like a boss. But he's not that Devin Hester's son.

A (48:10)

Yes. Wait, am I right?

C (48:11)

I don't know.

B (48:12)

I think you're right.

A (48:14)

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not that Devin Hester. So. All right. So AI got me screwed up. All right? I got Sports Illustrated here. All right, Devin Hester Jr. Had returned a kick for Furman University against William Mary and nearly took it to the house. If you saw Devin Hester Junior's returning case and jump to assume that it was the son of NFL return specialist Devin Hester, you'd be forgiven. You would also be mistaken. As it turns out, this Devin Hester Jr. Is a different Devin Hester Jr. This is not exactly an easy thing to figure out, because the NFL Devin Hester that you are likely more familiar with also has a son named Devin Hester Jr. But that Devin Hester Jr. Is still in high school. Ah, it appears to be more focused as a track athlete. He's listed as Class of 2028.

C (48:53)

Okay.

A (48:53)

Meanwhile, Furman's Devin Hester Jr. Is a college sophomore and was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

C (48:58)

Do you think that Furman's coach knew that he wasn't Devin Hester's son?

A (49:03)

Maybe the fucking odds.

C (49:05)

Maybe the first time that he saw him, he was like, oh, wait, we got Devin Hester Jr. Coming for a visit to Furman.

A (49:11)

What are the odds? And it would be like. It'd be a totally different thing if it was. Devin Hester Jr. Lays a pancake block everyone. Like, oh, okay, whatever. It's a kickoff return, and it's not Devin Hester. Devin Hester's son.

C (49:25)

That's very confused. You know what? I'm. I'm going to just say that. That they're both his kids. That's how I'm gonna look at it.

B (49:31)

Do you think Devin Hester was aware of this? Kid before this kickoff return.

A (49:34)

I don't know.

B (49:35)

Like, do you think he was just scrolling Twitter and been like, what the. Well, what the Going on?

A (49:38)

Yeah, what the.

B (49:39)

Is my son actually playing for Furman that I don't know about?

A (49:42)

Like my son in my, my high school son in my house or is he on the football field right now?

C (49:46)

I think that that Devin Hester Jr. On Furman was probably named after Devin Hester, the return specialist. And so that's. You don't think so?

B (49:55)

He was named after his dad?

A (49:56)

Yeah, Hester Jr.

C (49:59)

But he was probably he pro. Do you think he would have gotten the Name Devin Hester Jr. If Devin Hester, the NFL player wasn't so great?

B (50:06)

Yeah, no, it's his dad. I know, but his dad is also Devin.

C (50:10)

But maybe they were like, that's a great name. That guy's really famous too. I'm gonna name him. That's a good name. Devin Hester.

A (50:15)

No, I think he's just, he's just junior. Because he's junior.

C (50:20)

I want to know if he has any older brothers.

A (50:22)

And he's also 20 years old. Yeah, it would have been 20s.

D (50:26)

2006 was his first rookie.

A (50:27)

Yeah, 20 years old. So he's like. Unless he was like a big. Devin Hester. Miami.

C (50:32)

He was awesome.

A (50:33)

I know he was, but I, I think it's more because that's his dad's name.

C (50:36)

I just want to. Okay, I'll let this go if we can. If you can prove to me that Devin Hester Jr. On Furman is the oldest of all of his brothers. If he has an older brother that was in 2005 that wasn't Devin Jr. Then I'm on to something.

B (50:54)

Right. It says he has two siblings, but it doesn't say whether they're older or younger.

C (50:58)

We gotta find out.

A (51:01)

Yeah. I think it's probably because his dad still crazy. A lot of confusion about Esther. Oh, we need to mention. We'll. We'll talk a little other sports before we do. Who's back of the week. What a weekend for Lee Corso. So incredible send off for him on game day. It was awesome to see he's a true icon of the sport. I think all of us in this room, even Hank, probably our biggest college football fan, Remember watching Lee Corso put on the mascot and being part of game day, making the sport fun. He's like in that Dick Vital, Bill Walton, like guys who make the sport fun for people. And for him to have this send off, which was great because it's like, you don't want. You never want to have. He basically got. He said it on air. He's like, I feel like I died and like I'm being eulogized, which is a very cool thing. And then to all his picks he got right, including the only person to pick Florida State. Everyone else picked Alabama, and that was outright. And then all of the schools that he coached for or played for won their game this weekend. That if you, like, there's got. That's. There's something up with that.

C (52:17)

And all the favorites that he picked covered.

A (52:20)

Yeah.

C (52:20)

So it was truly like a perfect.

A (52:22)

You want them.

C (52:23)

He won them all. I think they should bring him back as a guest picker at some point this year.

A (52:28)

Maybe next week.

C (52:28)

Run it back next week. Bring it back. Listen, I'm gonna. I'm gonna keep betting. He should just put his picks out there.

A (52:33)

Yeah.

C (52:34)

Even if he's not on tv. I want to follow them.

A (52:36)

The perfect season is going on. Yeah.

C (52:38)

You can't quit when you. When you're perfect after one week. Right.

A (52:41)

Your favorite league. Corso. Memory.

C (52:42)

Hank, Man.

D (52:45)

So many.

A (52:46)

Yeah.

D (52:47)

Probably that time.

A (52:48)

Take your time. I know you're emotional about probably that time.

D (52:50)

Washington State. He took the mascot headed. Put it on.

C (52:54)

Crowd went nuts at Washington State.

D (52:57)

Fired me up.

A (52:57)

Yeah.

C (52:58)

I think. Was it Oklahoma where he shot the gun. That was pretty cool.

A (53:03)

When he called the kid a midget.

C (53:04)

We called the kid a midget. Was awesome. When he said fuck it. When he was at Houston.

A (53:09)

Yeah.

C (53:10)

He threw the mascot head. That was great.

A (53:11)

That was fun. Oh, speaking of which, did you guys see the. Oh, Zach, you want to go grab the dinner? It's here. Did you guys see the Oregon Duck? Lost his head. Yeah. Great job by him to just turn around and get back in there. You got.

C (53:23)

You got two moves you can pull if you're the Duck at that point. One, scramble around on your hands and knees until you put the head back on to. Just say it. I'm out. I don't think you can come back after that.

A (53:32)

No.

C (53:32)

Like, if you sprint into the tunnel, you leave your post at the stadium.

A (53:36)

You can't let kids see you without the. The head on.

C (53:39)

Yeah, but if. If you lose the head and then you sprint away, I think that you. That's how you have to retire as you let somebody else be. Puddles.

A (53:47)

Yeah. Yeah.

C (53:48)

Also, Oregon comes out to Freebird this year, which is awesome. That is sick on a motorcycle.

A (53:52)

That's really sick. That's really sick. And they. They made quick work of. Of their opponent. I can't remember who I they played. No one. Dante more though. All right, Other other sports stuff before we get to who's back of the week. And we're reminded. We have booger Cam coming up. He's going to eat six donuts and then we're going to talk to him more. College football. Do we meet? Do we need. We're do. We're doing reminder to everyone. We have a show tomorrow as well. So we're doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. We're do a full NFL predictions. I think last year we did worst case scenario for all of our teams. We did least improved player. We'll do all that tomorrow. And we have Pete Priscoe. Do we make anything from Tyreek Hill not being named a captain for the first time since he joined the Dolphins?

C (54:43)

I mean, typically you want your captain to be a guy that didn't say, I'm done playing football for this team.

A (54:49)

That's a very fair point.

C (54:50)

I think you would want a guy first and foremost if you're going to be captain, a guy that. That wants to play football for your team.

A (54:56)

Yep. Fair.

C (54:57)

That had something to do with it, I think.

A (54:58)

Pft. I'm not going to disagree that.

C (55:00)

Who is the captain?

A (55:01)

I don't know. Captains. Do captains matter? I feel like captains matter in baseball. Yeah.

C (55:10)

Hockey, soccer, football.

A (55:13)

There's just too many of them. Yeah.

D (55:15)

There's got to be like one per position or one per office specialty.

A (55:19)

Yeah. So not even special.

C (55:20)

What do the captains do on coin to. Well, they do the coin toss, obviously, but I know in like soccer and rugby, they're the only ones that are allowed to talk to the ref. Everything, but everybody talks to every ref. There's so many refs in football.

A (55:33)

Yeah.

C (55:33)

I don't think that really matters.

A (55:35)

Yeah. I'm not a big. And I think like in college football, Sometimes there's like 10 captains, which I guess it's cool to say afterwards. Like, I was the captain of my team, but I. Yeah. In the NFL, it just feels. It feels outdated to be like, hey, here's a captain who needs to motivate you to play football.

C (55:55)

Yeah. Listen, putting a C on somebody's chest is overrated. And that's what Max has always told you.

A (56:00)

Mm. Got it Confirmed. Got it. Got it.

C (56:04)

Got it confirmed.

A (56:05)

Got it.

C (56:05)

The captain. So the seaman out there, it took me.

A (56:09)

Confirm. Got it confirmed. Got it. All right. Any other sports things we'll do? Who's back of the week?

C (56:17)

I like Al Gingold being captain. That was a good call.

A (56:19)

Yeah. Actually, that makes sense. That's actually important that he got the recognition there. Yep. So we just went back on our own.

C (56:26)

Alec Angled better football player Tyree Kill right there.

A (56:30)

All right, let's do who's Back of the Week and we'll welcome on Booger Cam where he's going to eat six donuts while we do who's back of the Week and then we're going to have him on to talk some college football before we get to that. Game time. The NFL is back. Hank, can you find me an NFL Week 1 game?

C (56:47)

Sure.

A (56:48)

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D (57:20)

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C (59:38)

Online, he's paying up a bet, which is great.

A (59:40)

Yeah.

C (59:41)

I want to know what the breakdown of the donuts is like. We got powdered sugar. We got cream pie. What are we into, Booger?

E (59:46)

So I kept it simple. Tonight, baby. America's. America's best. That's what we got.

A (59:52)

Okay. I thought you're gonna go Krispy Kreme. That's a smart veteran move. You know your donuts. Yes. Yes. All right, so, Booger, you're gonna eat six donuts while we do who's back of the week, and then we'll talk ball. Do you have any? Are you. Are you regretting this at all? Are you. Are you worried about this? You can eat six.

E (60:09)

Yeah, I'm a little concerned because it's been a while since I've eaten a donut. I don't know if my body's gonna reject the fatness. I tried to prepare for it. I did a nice 30 minute Peloton earlier. I drank like eight bottles of water. Hopefully the hydration will flush the sugar. So I've done all I can do. Now it's time to perform.

A (60:28)

Yeah.

C (60:28)

The preparations there. Did you plan your previous meals today around the donut eating?

E (60:33)

Yes. I did have a salad and four chicken wings. So I've tried to prep for this. Not sure what I'm going to eat after six donuts. I'll kind of go by how I feel.

C (60:43)

All right, good luck.

A (60:44)

Four chicken wings is wild, by the way. Who eats four chicken wings?

C (60:47)

Yeah, you got to do six at minimum. The chicken wing numbers are 6, 10, 12.

A (60:52)

You're. You're a child.

E (60:54)

I ordered six. But speaking of child, I got a 14 year old who was trying to eat all six. I had to steal four.

A (61:00)

Okay, okay. All right, that makes more sense. All right, so you stole his. All right, all right. So put. Put yourself on mute for people who are watching on YouTube. Booger will be picture in a picture eating his donuts while we do who's Back of the Week, and then we'll talk. And he's going. He's going with one. All right, here we go. Who's that of the week, Hank?

B (61:18)

My.

D (61:19)

Who's Back is Nico Harrison.

C (61:20)

Oh, okay.

D (61:21)

I know we're not. It's a big anti Nico Harrison podcast, but this. This kind of made me feel bad for him. He was just out to dinner. A fan walked up, saw him. He's kind of, like, sitting in the window, and the window was open, so it was somewhat accessible. And a fan walked up, introduced himself. I kind of did a hesi. Hey. Where he's like, oh, nice to meet you, by the way, all the Mavericks fans still hate your guts.

A (61:41)

Yeah.

D (61:41)

And then walked away.

C (61:42)

And I felt bad that he's getting harassed in public.

D (61:44)

Yeah.

C (61:45)

Yeah. You should hear the voices, though. Like, if you're gonna trade away a guy that is so popular, your best player, the guy that's going to be there for a decade, you have to also have a healthy fear in the back of your head that this could turn into a public confrontation at some point.

A (62:00)

I. I would imagine. Yeah, I. I would imagine Nico was like, as soon as they got Cooper Flag, like, oh, they'll forget about this. I'll be good. I can go. I can go back out to Chili's.

C (62:10)

He's probably hoping that the Micah Parsons thing would take some heat off him.

A (62:13)

Yeah.

C (62:13)

Like, we're all. Everyone's doing it. Yeah, I was. They just hated me because I was the first.

A (62:16)

Yeah.

D (62:17)

The Micah Parsons things made it worse. Like, if you're a Dallas fan.

A (62:20)

Yeah.

D (62:20)

It actually, like, made it more painful.

A (62:23)

Yeah.

D (62:23)

Like, you kind of had gotten over it. You did get Cooper Flag. And then it's like, what? Do you see the pictures? Everyone's posting the pictures of Micah and Luca, and it's like, how do we lose both these guys?

A (62:32)

How do we get both of them? Yeah. Lose both them. But they have Paige Buckets and Cooper flag.

C (62:36)

Yep.

A (62:37)

And Kenny Clark. All right, good who's back?

C (62:40)

I got two.

A (62:41)

Okay.

C (62:42)

My first is Charlie Woods.

A (62:43)

Yes.

C (62:44)

Charlie woods is back. He got a hole in one on the third hole at Sawgrass today. Incredible. Acted like it was. I don't know if it was his first hole in one ever, but he. He acted like it wasn't a big deal. Like, hey, that went in. He's like, oh, cool. That's pretty cool. But it was in competition, so Charlie woods is the future of golf. I think he cemented that today. And then my other who's back of the week is Luis Suarez. You remember Luis Suarez.

A (63:07)

Yeah. He tells her, going in the cup goes wild. Yep. I just can't get enough.

C (63:21)

I just can't get enough. He's always been known as being like. He's had the weirdest mouth in soccer.

A (63:27)

Yeah. He bites people.

C (63:28)

He used to bite people all the time. His mouth is back.

A (63:30)

Okay.

C (63:31)

Because he was playing an MLS game. I don't really know what the league's cup is. I don't really care to find out what the league's cup is, but it was Miami against Seattle, which is like, rivalry week, I guess. They were wearing special uniforms. And then there was a fight on the field after the game, and Luis Suarez went up to one of the Seattle staff members just like an old guy wearing a polo shirt, spat on his face and walked away. Got caught on camera. I listen. I kind of admire Luis Suarez's passion in that he's still so fired up for soccer that he's spitting on an old guy in a Seattle, Miami MLS game.

A (64:06)

Yeah.

C (64:06)

Like that. That passion's never gone away.

A (64:08)

He just blacks out.

C (64:09)

I think that's why he's not retired from soccer.

A (64:11)

Yeah.

C (64:12)

He's like, I gotta put this mouth somewhere.

A (64:13)

Yeah.

C (64:14)

And once you retire, all the stuff I do with my mouth becomes a felony.

A (64:17)

He gets a pacifier.

C (64:18)

Yeah.

A (64:19)

And just does a bunch of X. Yeah.

C (64:20)

That's the only other option for him. But, yeah, it was nice to see. Nice to see that. That mouth back in action.

A (64:25)

All right, My who's back week. I have two as well. Did you guys see LeBron's new ad commercial? Can you find it, Max, and play it for us? Did you see it, Hank? Oh, get ready to get triggered. Get ready to get triggered. It's really. It's. It's a. He's putting it on thick. Very, very thick. Here it is. So this is new Nike ad. They called him the chosen one.

E (64:56)

He carried the weight of every expectation.

C (64:59)

On his shoulders, but he never broke.

A (65:04)

We were all witnesses Every rival was defeated. Every idol was destroyed.

C (65:12)

He took the crown and kept it. Behold the greatness.

A (65:18)

He is the forever king.

D (65:21)

He's still playing.

C (65:23)

The forever king.

A (65:24)

Yeah.

D (65:24)

Also, we were all witnesses.

A (65:26)

Every rival defeated. He kept the crown and. Or he took the crown and kept it. He has.

C (65:32)

Where's the lie?

A (65:33)

Steph Curry has the same amount of titles as him.

C (65:35)

Where's lie?

A (65:36)

And he.

D (65:37)

He bought less finals losses.

A (65:38)

Yeah.

C (65:39)

He defeated every rival. I don't. I don't understand what's so confusing.

A (65:42)

Yeah. But then the rival then defeated him two more times.

C (65:46)

He took the crown and he kept it three.

A (65:48)

Three times.

C (65:48)

He didn't give the crown up.

A (65:50)

Yeah. He has given the crown many years.

D (65:53)

Also, we were all.

C (65:54)

Majority of you.

D (65:55)

He's still playing.

A (65:56)

Yeah. Yeah. This makes me think he might be. Yeah.

C (65:59)

Was that a. Was that a shoe commercial?

A (66:01)

I don't know.

C (66:01)

Because I don't think he had a shoe in it.

A (66:02)

So I actually think it was just a, A. It was like a crown commercial. They're selling like it is a crowns. I don't know.

C (66:08)

So this is his 22nd year, right?

A (66:10)

Yeah.

C (66:11)

He's going to play 23. You know that he's going to play 23.

A (66:15)

I think the only reason he's not going to play or he's going to play another year is because Chris Paul is going to retire. He doesn't want to retire the same.

C (66:20)

Year as Chris Paul because Chris Paul would overshadow his retirement. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

A (66:24)

He's got to make sure.

C (66:25)

Talk about a guy that took the crown and held it.

A (66:27)

Yeah. Chris Paul took the crown and held it. And then my other who's back is Showy Ohtani, because they had an interview with his bookie and he said his bookie said that he believes that Shohei was aware of IPA's gambling or borrowing money. But it wasn't Shohei betting because the bookie told the story that he was at a Angels game watching Shohei Ohtani pitch and watching bets come in. But Ippei was putting in the bets.

C (66:55)

Right.

A (66:55)

On like soccer games.

C (66:56)

Ippei was also at the game, right.

A (66:59)

I don't know. He probably was under. He probably didn't get to sit in the dugout. Or maybe he did.

C (67:04)

It'd be very funny if Shohei was betting on soccer games during baseball games.

A (67:07)

He also said that ebay was so bad he gave him. He let him bet $100,000 on a soccer game, which is like no bookie in the world would ever allow that.

C (67:16)

Right.

A (67:17)

Like Vegas Puts limits on bets. Like, bookies aren't going to be like, hey, if this guy wins a soccer game, owe him 100,000.

C (67:24)

This. This bookie had the. The dream client with Ipe.

A (67:27)

Yeah.

C (67:28)

Absolute dream.

A (67:28)

Yeah. All right, Zach, finish us off, and then we'll get to booger my. Who's back of the week is love, because our boy Max is engaged. Yeah. He did it.

C (67:37)

Congrats, Max.

E (67:39)

Max now.

B (67:40)

Yeah, it was good weekend. Big weekend. Tough timing that. I had this plan for months, and.

A (67:45)

Then, you know, Kyle Schwarber hit four home runs.

B (67:47)

Well, that was great timing.

A (67:48)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (67:49)

But the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce thing happening the day before was not. Was not the best for me. But.

C (67:53)

But listen, a lot of people were saying that you weren't even planning on getting engaged, and then you saw. Yeah, you saw the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey got engaged, and you're like, man, love is so cool. I think. I think I got to get. Yeah, yeah. Engagement is having a moment.

B (68:05)

Yeah, engagement was having a moment for sure. But yeah, no, got engaged. It's very scary feeling.

C (68:11)

Shout out Diamonds direct.

B (68:13)

Yeah. Shout out Diamonds direct. They hooked it up. I've been known. I've known for. I've been setting this up for months. They made that part very easy. Shout out diamonds directly. Yeah, no, it's. It's cool. It's cool. Now. Now we got to plan a bachelor party.

A (68:27)

Yeah. So are we doing. Are you doing a friend's bachelor party and then a PMT bachelor party?

B (68:32)

Yeah.

A (68:33)

Are we invited to the friends bachelor party? What do you want? I would probably assume it's separate.

D (68:39)

I think you should have, like, five.

A (68:40)

Okay. Yeah, let's do that.

B (68:42)

Well, we'll do a pm.

A (68:43)

Why don't we do. Why don't we.

D (68:44)

If you're gonna do a content bachelor party, you might as well do what, five.

A (68:47)

Yeah. Why don't all five of us plan a bachelor party?

B (68:52)

You can't do that many bachelor parties.

C (68:53)

We'll do.

A (68:54)

We'll. One.

B (68:55)

We'll. We'll do one sick PMT boucher.

C (68:57)

You gotta have a high school one, you gotta have a college one, then you gotta have five. A content one and then a production side one and then five pmt. Yeah.

A (69:08)

Yeah, I do. I think it would be fun if we did a PMT bachelor party. We should.

B (69:11)

Yeah, no, we should do a PMT party.

A (69:13)

We should blow it out. We should. All the boys should go on a quick trip together. Yeah, real quick. I already said that. If Kyle Schwarber wins mvp, you're Getting a big chunk of that to your bachelor party. Actually, if Kyle's river wins mvp, your wedding's probably.

B (69:27)

That was all when. When I looked down at my phone, like after the engagement dinner, and I just saw like our pop. Our like group chat popping off. It was like, there's one for Schwarber. Two, three, four. And then it was just like, all right, you have to. You have to propose every day.

A (69:41)

Yeah.

B (69:42)

I haven't proposed since, so. And he hasn't had four home runs since.

A (69:44)

Okay, do your job.

C (69:47)

Do you know where you want to.

B (69:48)

Go for the bachelor party?

A (69:49)

Yeah.

B (69:50)

No, I don't know. We're going to have to discuss as. Discuss as a group.

C (69:54)

Australia, Ireland.

B (69:56)

We just said quick. We just quick.

A (69:59)

Maybe a maybe. Maybe a WL puts us up at a house and then only you and.

C (70:05)

Then it's their friends and then you.

A (70:08)

We can't make it last second.

B (70:10)

Oh, my God. Those are good guys.

A (70:13)

Yeah. All right. Congrats, Max. We're very happy for you. All right. And she did say yes.

B (70:19)

She did say yes.

A (70:20)

She did. Listen, that was my first question. I said congrats. But did she say yes? Yeah. Yeah.

B (70:25)

Thank you.

A (70:25)

She said yes.

C (70:26)

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A (72:15)

Let's get to our guest, one of our favorite people, very, very special guest. It is Booger McFarland. He just finished his six donuts. How those went down, I'll say this. Those went down surprisingly quickly and clean. I think you've eaten a couple donuts in your day.

E (72:32)

Yeah. That's the reason. I know what the donuts will do to you because I've been there before. It's been years. Two things happened just now. When I finished my fourth donut between four and six, I started sweating profusely. For some reason, I had to kick the AC on a little bit and my skin, I'm starting to feel like a little tingling. Is that normal when you eat a lot of sugar?

A (72:55)

Yeah. No, that's good. That means it's ready for college football. That's a Saturday morning tradition where you get a little sugar high diabetes. Yeah. Yeah.

E (73:03)

It's close, man. Wow.

A (73:05)

All right, so you did your six. You're going to do another six later on in the year. That was not hard.

E (73:12)

It wasn't hard. Eating is never the hard part. It's the aftermath and the feeling afterwards. And as far I'm sure you know this once you, if you do it too many times, it's the look. Like the feeling, then the look. Because you instead of becoming bloated, you just become fat. And like, that's what we can't get to.

A (73:30)

Yeah.

C (73:31)

It's also kind of the shame. If you eat that many donuts, then like an hour later you're like, what. What I do to myself.

E (73:37)

Right, Right. I never think, by the way, by the way, I was listening to the, to the bachelor party ideas. Two cities are the greatest cities for bachelor parties ever. One's Miami and the other one's Las Vegas. Anything else? Like, you're really fooling yourself.

A (73:54)

Yeah. Yeah.

C (73:55)

Vegas is fun. Vegas is fun, Max. Vegas is fun.

A (74:00)

Vegas is fun. I like doing bachelor parties where you just like. I think the Best bachelor parties I've been on have, like, been a cabin in the woods or something where it's like, the guys can hang out. Especially when you get older and you don't get to see your friends. So maybe Vegas works for us because we see each other all the time. But I like when it's like you can't because you go to Vegas with, like, 10 dudes. You're gonna get split up. Guys got different things going on, you see each other at dinner, and then it just kind of falls apart.

E (74:28)

So are we talking. Are we talking like a hangover type bachelor party? We're just going to hang Tiger?

A (74:34)

Yes.

E (74:35)

And.

A (74:35)

And.

E (74:35)

And. And to get Tiger and get drunk and everybody's gonna do dumb stuff?

A (74:38)

Yeah.

E (74:38)

Are we talking, like, a real legitimate bachelor party where there's, you know, honey love, white chocolate, cinnamon, diamond. Like, are we gonna have donuts, Kalin white sprinkles?

A (74:53)

I mean, all the above.

E (74:54)

It's.

B (74:55)

It's.

E (74:55)

It's a couple different type of bachelor parties. I'm just wondering, which type are we going for here?

C (74:59)

That's gonna be.

A (75:00)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want. I want to. I want to get a house and have the strippers come to the house and just degrade Max in front of us.

E (75:09)

Okay.

A (75:09)

Yeah, Yeah.

E (75:11)

I like it.

A (75:12)

I like it. All right, Booger, we want to have you on because college football was great this weekend. Saw you all weekend on our tv. You look good in those suits. Let's start with your team. Brian Kelly gets the first big win week one. I'd say this was this the biggest win outside of maybe the time they. What, they beat Alabama his first year. But this feels like a statement win for Brian Kelly at lsu. What'd you see on Saturday night? And how do you feel going forward about your Tigers?

E (75:41)

So a couple things. I think that's very astute of you, saying it's the biggest win outside of Alabama, because it is. Because it kind of puts the narrative to bed that BK can't win a big game. He can't win the opener. That's number one. Number two, can we end the debate about who's the real Death Valley? I mean, at some point, if we're going to show up in your house and kick your door down when you take the bus around the stadium and run down the hill and touch the rock and all that stuff, and then we just shut you out in the second half, at some point, you got to realize that there's only one Death Valley. And, oh, by the way, you get to come See it next year. That's number two. Number three. I think LSU has a defense, and that's something that we've always had, but for, like, the last three or four years, it just kind of went away. If we'd have had a defense to Jaden Daniels year, we'd have won the national championship. I get it. If some butts were candy and nuts, I get it. I get the whole thing. But I think we have a defense this year. They put a lot of money into this team. DBU is back. We got some lockdown corners. Harold Perkins look healthy, and I think that's the biggest takeaway. I think we got the best quarterback in the country, Garrett Nussmeier. He's a great young man. He's a great individual. He's the son of a coach, Doug Nussmeier, who I think is the Saints OC or quarterback coach. That's his dad. So he's been around the game for a long time. Big win for the Tigers. But as we always say, we. We got a motto, and we stole this motto. I'm. I'm happy to tell you we stole it. Anybody, anywhere, anytime, that's who we play. It doesn't matter. That's who we play. And I think we continue to prove it each and every year.

A (77:15)

Yeah, that's Pat Hill, one of our favorites.

C (77:18)

So it was a great, great, great Saturday for you because obviously the nightcap with lsu, but also what happened earlier in the day. I wish I could have watched that game. There should have been a booger cam during the Alabama, Florida State game. That's what I want. How excited were you? How giddy were you to watch Alabama not just. Not just lose, but get their teeth kicked in physically?

E (77:37)

Well, I was more happy for Florida State because I. Living in Tampa, I got a lot of friends that went to Florida State. Derrick Brooks is one of my great fans. I was more happy for them. But it's never a bad day when your rival gets their teeth kicked in. And you know, a lot of people that went to Alabama that know somebody that went to Alabama, they claim Alabama. And you got to give Alabama their props. Under Nick Saban, they were the preeminent program in America. They were dominant. And I think everybody. It's like the Kansas City Chiefs. Like, when you win so much, everybody wants to see you get beat. And it's. It's no different. Like with Alabama. I do think they have good players. The most surprising thing, big kidney. And you'll love this. Like, they didn't play with a lot of effort. They almost reminded me of, like, a. Guys that weren't in shape, like, they were loafing. They didn't run to the ball. I mean, it was like they just didn't care. And now I know that's not the case, but it seemed to me that, like, the thing that made Alabama really good, which was the attention to detail, the effort they didn't have. And so beyond the fact that your rival lost, like, I'm concerned If I'm Caleb DeBoer, because if you're not putting forth the effort, that means I'm not connecting with you as a coach to get you to play hard. That's just like this show. Like, when. When. When PFT shows up, you know you're gonna get his best. He might be drunk, he might be hungover, he might be high, but you're gonna get the very best he has in that state.

A (79:03)

That's right.

E (79:04)

There's no. No question. You're gonna get his very best.

C (79:06)

100.

A (79:07)

That's facts.

C (79:08)

We don't know what. But 100 of whatever I got, when.

A (79:11)

We get off the bus, we're ready to roll.

E (79:13)

No doubt about it. They weren't ready to roll. You. You took it right out of my mouth. They were not ready to roll in Tallahassee. And I don't know if you guys saw this, but we could see it in the studio during commercial breaks because, like, when they go to commercial, obviously, you can't see. They had dudes that are. That are carrying around these huge air conditioners with hoses, and they would stick a hose in each one of the guys that came to the sideline. I'm like, is it not hot in Tuscaloosa?

A (79:38)

Right?

E (79:39)

Like. Like, is it not? They had a dude with, like, a. With like, a blower blowing them off.

A (79:43)

Yeah.

E (79:43)

I'm like, what are we doing here? Like, it just seemed like they weren't prepared for Tallahassee and everything that Tallahassee brought.

C (79:50)

So how concerned should should Caleb DeBoer be about his future at Alabama right now? I know he's got a massive buyout, so that number might be too high, but. But I know that it's heating up and the fans are not. Not happy with what he's done, not just in this game, but also going back to last year. Like, should he be concerned right now?

E (80:10)

Should it be concerned? No, because I think the buyout. 70 million, but it's more. What happens is he may not get fired, but his family's got to live in Tuscaloosa. And I Think he started out, what, four and. Oh, and since then, he's five and five. Yeah, like, think about that. Five and five, his last 10. Don't quote me on that, but I think I saw that stat somewhere. So, like, he's not gonna go anywhere, but when his wife walks in the local grocery store, it's gonna be some. You know, when he walks in, you know, I'm assuming he goes to church every once in a while. The pastor might say a prayer for him. Like, all these little things start to wear on your family and to wear on your kids, because these kids got to go to school. Little buddy's gonna be like, hey, man, your dad sucks. Like, these are the things that happen to coaches that are not necessarily to the level of getting fired, but it bothers the family. So that's what winning does, man. Like, winning makes everybody feel good. Losing makes everybody have to take the brunt. Now, he's dealt with this for a long time. I'm sure his family's dealt with this for a long time. He understands how to deal with it, but unless you know what it means in the sec. And I think he's finally getting a taste of it. Like, it's light. It's not life and death, man, but it feels like it. Like, Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly in Baton Rouge won 10 games. He won nine. He won eight, and they told him it wasn't good enough. Like, you win 10 at certain schools, they put a statue up.

A (81:33)

Yeah.

E (81:33)

In Baton Rouge, you got to win a championship. And so Kalen DeBoer is in a very unenviable situation because unless he wins a national championship, it's not good enough.

A (81:44)

Yeah. And what. But because it is the shocking part. You saw, too, and you mentioned it, like, it's Alabama getting, like, blown off the line of scrimmage. It's Alabama getting punked down the downfield blocks. It's Alabama's not, like, not being able to physically dominate an opponent, which. What is what they did for 20 years. Is there a fix in season? I know we overreact to week one, but I think it's because of what we're used to with Alabama, to see the way they lost. If they lost in a fluke, you can say, oh, okay, well, that happens. But the way they got physically dominated, that is so un. Alabama, like. Like, what's the fix? How do they. How do they put that back together this year?

E (82:27)

Two things you control in life is your attitude and your effort. I think you control those two things. Their attitude's got to Be better. And their efforts got to get a whole hell of a lot better. Like, if. If I'm the coach, I turn the film on and I show everybody that got their ass kicked. I show everybody that wasn't running to the football. Like, the. The only way men, I think, handle things. And I don't know how you guys do things in the studio. Like, we close the doors and we talk direct. Like, I'm not gonna beat around the bush. Hey, pft. You suck today, big cat. That wasn't good enough. Like, I'm gonna tell you directly that it wasn't good enough. That's how you got to talk to young men, and you got to close the door and you got to say, I wasn't good enough as a coach. So, yeah, like, the only way you can fix it, you're not going to get dramatically stronger in the next six weeks. I think they're strong enough. You got to change your attitude. You got to change your effort. And it starts with the coaching staff. Like, whatever DeBoer is doing, he's not connecting enough with the players. Because you often hear this about a coach, man, I'll run through a wall for him. Run through a wall. They won't even run to the ball for him, let alone run through a wall. So somewhere along the line, he's not getting them to buy into everything that he is trying to instill. That can change, but it's gotta. Like, your habits have to change. Because if they're doing that on game day, I guarantee they did it at practice.

A (83:42)

So the other side of this, because it. Obviously, the story is Alabama and it's unfair to Florida State, but the story is Alabama because they've been at the top of the college football world for two decades. Is Florida State maybe good? Because that was a hell of a game for them. And they, you know, Thomas Castellano talked shit, backed it up. Mike Norvell, who went through a terrible season last year, gets a huge win to start the season. Like, Florida State could be one of those teams that we look back, we're like, why did we say that they were going to be bad again?

E (84:16)

Think about this. Mike Norville, to my understanding, was offered the Alabama job or offered a chance to interview. He turned it down. Then he goes 2 and 10. And then in the off season, he says, I am where I want to be. Thomas Castellano comes out and says, hey, when they come to Tallahassee, Nick Saban is not going to be able to save him. So this is a Florida State team that had no business having any type of swag at all. And Thomas Castellano, 5 foot 10, 5 foot 11, 200 pounds, says, Y' all gotta come see me. Think about the level of swag you walk into the locker room when you got a quarterback that shows up like that, like, it's about mentality. And Florida State has a ton of athletes. Like, it's the state of Florida. They got a ton of athletes. They got a mobile quarterback and they got old Gus Malzahn. Like, Gus Malzahn fits perfectly down there. Because as soon as the students were storming the field. Did you see the tweet that Gus Malzahn sent out?

C (85:09)

Yeah.

E (85:10)

He said, it feels like old times, referring to when he used to beat Alabama at Auburn. So now you got an offensive coordinator that talks shit. You got a quarterback that talks stuff. You got a head coach that's kind of got a little swag to him. Florida State may not win the national championship, but they got an attitude, guys that's different. And when you get 85 guys, however many guys on scholarship, when you get guys, like, with the right attitude, showing up to work, man, you can accomplish things. There's no doubt in my mind Alabama's more talented than Florida State, but Florida State showed up with the right attitude and the right effort. They opened up a brand new, a newly renovated stadium, and they played that way. Are they. Can they beat Clemson? They can beat anybody in the ACC. And wouldn't it be something, what, two years after they didn't get into the playoff going 130 or 12 0, they get into the playoff this season? To me, that would be. That would just be like, the right thing for the football guys to do.

A (86:06)

Yeah.

C (86:06)

Yeah, I agree. So if we're looking at one week, just one week of college football, who would. Who would be your Heisman after one week?

E (86:16)

Oh, man. Heisman after one week. Impact. John Mattia from Oklahoma was outstanding.

A (86:22)

Love him.

E (86:23)

I mean, he was. I mean, to talk about, to go from Jackson Auto to John Mattia, like, it feels like going from like. Like a. A stripper named Honey Love to bashful. Like, it's. It's like, it's. It's a totally different mindset. Of course I'm biased. My guy, Garrett Nussmeier on. On a big stage.

C (86:42)

Yeah.

E (86:43)

At the Fake. At the Fake Death Valley. To beat that team in that house.

A (86:48)

He.

C (86:49)

He.

E (86:49)

He's not the biggest guy. He doesn't have the strongest arm. I think he's the best anticipation thrower that we've seen in a Long time. I think he'll be the first quarterback taken when it's all said and done. So he's got to be up there. I tell you who's not up there. And I think we all expected, at least Vegas did his Arch.

A (87:08)

Yeah.

E (87:09)

And to me that may have been the most shocking performance of the weekend. Since you're talking about guys that are there for the Heisman, let's flip it over on the other side. Like have we ever seen a debut? Can we think about a debut in any sport that went worse? Like, like think about that. Like think about Tiger woods when he showed up. Hello world. Think about LeBron, his first game. Like all those went great. How many first appearances in any sport can we think that that was just terrible because he was bad guys. Well now it's not all his fault. Yeah but he was really bad.

A (87:46)

He was. You could throw out his, his uncle, whatever it was. 33 interceptions which we all laugh about. But like Peyton Manning basically gave a pass for every quarterback to have a bad first season with the 33 interceptions even though he. And move the ball down the field. But you're right, like that was, that was as bad as bad gets. What's. Are you buying stock in Arch? Because we did a little before you came on, we pulled the room. I'm still buying stock in him simply because that was probably the hardest place you have to start your career in the horseshoe, national champions, incredible defense. Matt Patricia can coach defense like you can't. It wasn't a cupcake, it was the opposite of a cupcake. So I think I'm going to buy stock in him and think he will figure it out. But people who say that he's just not doesn't have it. I can't really disagree at this point.

E (88:39)

Well, he doesn't have it yet, but I think he'll get it. So am I buying stock in Arch? Yeah. You know, the most surprising thing about Arch, guys is this, is that he's got an uncle that's in the hall of Fame that's a four time mvp. He's got another uncle that's a two time super bowl champion that'll probably get in the hall of Fame. He's got a dad who is a legend and excuse me, a granddad who's a legend and a dad who I think has raised him as good as any father could raise a superstar. And he seemed unprepared for the moment. Like all that wealth of knowledge around him, he seemed unprepared. Now you can blame the family. You can blame Sarkeesian, but ultimately, it's kind of like we talked about on this podcast. Like, it's about your mindset. Like, he looked like he wasn't ready. He was inaccurate. He didn't. I mean, he could hit the side of a barn on some throws. And I think that was the most surprising thing like you would expect coming from that pedigree. He would have showed up ready for the moment because he's been in situations he's seen. He's been in the stand in Super Bowls. He's been on the field probably for Super Bowls. He's been at Tennessee in the midst of 100,000 when Peyton was there, like, all those things, man, that was the most surprising thing. But to answer your original question, I would double down on Arch.

A (89:54)

Okay.

E (89:54)

Like, I would put. I would. I would put more money on Arch because I think just because of the pedigree and the worker and what I've heard about him, I think he's going to be phenomenal. Like, he's 6, 3, 6, 4. He's 220. He runs 4, 6 and a 40. He. He's like. He looked like a kid that had been swimming in four feet for a long time, and for the first time, mom and dad threw him in the 12ft and they didn't get in with him. That's it. Like, if that makes sense. Yeah, like, he can swim, but he was really nervous being in that deep of water with no life jacket. That's what it looked like to me.

C (90:33)

And also, if Texas had scored on that goal line possession where they got stood up at the 1, we would be saying things about Arch. We've been like, yeah, you know, he didn't play well. We'll see how the season goes. But we wouldn't be totally burying him if they had just somehow managed to win that game or, like, take it to overtime because it's died 1414. The story's a little bit different because they lost. There were. There were some things that I was. I am still also buying stock in them, but there's some stuff that I saw and I was like, well, he's just not a great quarterback yet that I don't know that you can explain as well.

E (91:03)

Like, such as what?

C (91:04)

His accuracy was the main thing. Like, I understand that in his family, his. His uncles were incredible at processing defenses. Right? They could look at the field and know exactly where the ball was going to go, where they were going to look on each play. Draw the safety, Boom, hit him. He's going to be Open that stuff. That takes time. So I'm not burying him for not being at that level yet. But his accuracy was bad when it had to be great. And I'm not talking about like perfect throws. He missed some very easy throws that I. The only thing I can ascribe that to, besides just like his technique, is nerves. He might have just been very, very nervous in this moment.

E (91:42)

Yeah. I mean, but. But doesn't that surprise you? Like being a Manning and being nervous and having been around as much as he's been around his entire. Like, to me, that's surprising. Yeah, like, this wasn't his first game. Like, he started two games last year. Like he's played before. He played against Georgia last year. Like he's been in big moments and like that's no different. Like I get the horseshoe and all, all that. That doesn't bother me. But like when you're on that field and I don't want to put him in this category, but you know those looks that Eli used to give us on the sideline?

A (92:15)

Yeah. The Manning face.

E (92:17)

I saw a couple of those from him and that bothered me.

A (92:19)

Yeah. What about Sunday night? Miami, Notre Dame? Yeah, that was. I said it was. It was the full crystal ball experience because he's in a hell of a recruiter roster builder. And then at the end, almost like the play calling at the end was suspect. Very, very nervous. But is Miami a real like, are they a national title type of threat? Because it looked like Carson back. Beck got a little bit of his swagger back.

E (92:47)

He got a little swagger back. He had a couple of lucky. Like the first touchdown. Notre Dame played a ton of man coverage. He drops back, he throws up or I'm not going to call it a jump pass, but he threw a ball that the receiver ran out, ran under the one that C.J. daniels caught was the Odell Beckham catch was unreal. Carson Beck looked like he was a stabilizing factor. Like it was a good first game out. Miami's got a really good defensive line like Bane and those guys, they get after you. I'm concerned with Miami's ability to run the football. Can Miami challenge Clemson? Based on what I saw from both of those teams, yes. I think the ACC is more wide open than we've ever seen. We all thought that Clemson was going to run away with it. Clemson doesn't have a running back. They moved a wide receiver to running back. Clemson's offensive line is not very good. Florida State might be the most physical team in the country. So you Add all those together, put in with Miami. Do we really know who's going to win the ACC right now? So I think the ACC is as wide open as we ever thought it could be, especially going back before the season, because we all thought Clemson was going to walk away with it in honor of Lee Corso. Not so fast, my friend, because I do think that Miami, Florida State, Clemson, I think they all are going to have something to say about the ACC when it's all said and done. But I'm not going to say the U is back. Like, I'm tired of using the U is back. They've been. They've been trying to come back since 87. So I'm not going to say the U is back. I'll just say I like what I saw from them last night.

A (94:15)

Also, they've been kind of bad. Like, we make the jokes about Texas was, you know, has been a playoff team like Miami has been. You know, they went 110 game. They went 10 and 2 last year. So they've. They've been building towards this. It's. They've been consistent last year, obviously, that loss against Syracuse. In terms of Notre Dame, though, I actually was impressed with C.J. carr. That's a tough place to start your career. Obviously had some. Some things he wants back, but he also made some plays where I was like, this kid is going to be good. Did you feel the same way?

E (94:45)

No doubt. You know, unlike architect, I thought that CJ went from 4ft to 12ft, but when he got into 12ft, he could doggy paddle. And then throughout the game, not only did he start doggy paddling, he starts swimming from side to side. And then he said, you know what? Toward that last drive, he said, I'm gonna go all the way down to the end of the pool. So, like, you saw him get better through the game. And, you know, I think Notre Dame's biggest problem is they didn't give the ball to Jeremiah Love enough. Like, we came into the season saying, Jeremiah Love, Jadarion Price, 24 4. For a while, I didn't know if Jeremiah Love was hurt. Like, he wouldn't touch the football. That's one thing. The second thing that hurt Notre Dame is they got to get some guys on defense that can rush the passer. Marcus Freeman loves to play a lot of man to man. And when you play man to man and you got these guys running all over the field, there's only so long you can cover. Dion always says, hey, I can cover for a little bit, but I Can't cover forever. Pass rush has got to get there. And so they couldn't run the ball as well as they should have, and they couldn't rush the passer. Other than that, I think Notre Dame is going to be fine. The schedule sets up very favorably. They're going to get a couple of. I think they play A M, they play Arkansas. So, yeah, I think they should be able to get a couple of good SEC wins. Notre Dame's in great shape. Don't be surprised if you look up. Notre Dame is 10, 10 and 2 or 11 and 1.

A (95:59)

Yeah.

C (96:00)

Booger, how mad were you on Saturday night when they called that touchdown back for lsu?

E (96:06)

It's. You know what it is, man? It's like, okay, what's the catch?

C (96:09)

Exactly.

A (96:10)

Yeah.

E (96:11)

Did Dance catch it? I don't know. I mean, did the guy, Melissieu, catch it? I mean, at a certain point, I don't know what a catch is. I thought so. If we use this rule, you know how Drew Brees used to take the snap and jump across the line and as soon as the ball broke the line, it was a touchdown.

A (96:26)

Yep.

E (96:27)

So if we use that premise, when you catch the ball and you cross the line, the play should be over. It's a touchdown.

C (96:34)

Yeah.

E (96:35)

So using. I have no idea how the LSU kid didn't get a touchdown. No idea. What's up?

A (96:39)

Yeah.

C (96:40)

Yeah. It was infuriating. Do we want to do some NFL talk real quick?

A (96:43)

I just said I have one last college question before we do a little NFL. Is there You. You watched. You were in the bunker all weekend. You were. Every time. Halftime, we see Booger again. Look great in your suit. You do look a little fat right now after those six donuts. What other teams or players impressed you week one? Because I know we overreact, but it's always just. We're excited to have football back.

E (97:07)

Yeah. John Mateer, Oklahoma. I, I think he, he looked the part. He looked really good. Bryce Underwood.

A (97:14)

Yeah.

E (97:15)

Wasn't sure what we were going to get out of Bryce Underwood, and I, I, I wanted to see him throw the football. Like, we know he's a dual threat guy, but he threw the football really well. I thought that South Carolina, Lenore Sellers is as advertised. If he comes out, he continues to improve. He might be the number one pick in the draft. Tennessee. How about Tennessee? How about Nico IO Maliava leaves. I don't want to be there. He goes to ucla. They get hammered by Utah. They suck. In comes Joey Aguilar nobody's ever heard of. Him and he just lights up. And dare I say, he played better than Nico ever did last year. I love to see stories like that when, you know, the guy who's kind of too high and mighty, leaves, and then comes the other guy and plays better. That was good. I'm trying to think who else.

A (98:04)

Who.

E (98:04)

Who else off the beaten path look good, man.

A (98:06)

Auburn looked good. Jackson, Arnold getting a second, you know, Chance.

E (98:10)

No, I need to see. I need to look good. I need to see a little bit more. I'm not. I'm not a believer yet in Hugh Freeze in Auburn.

A (98:16)

Okay.

E (98:17)

I need. I need to see a little bit more Nico.

C (98:20)

Grammatica. We got another one.

E (98:22)

How about that? I mean, it's like 12 of them, isn't it?

C (98:24)

I know, it's crazy. They're all really good.

E (98:26)

You got Bill Martine and they all got kids, and then they've been kicking forever, man. So that was good. It's going to be interesting to see USF plays Florida this week.

A (98:37)

Yep.

E (98:37)

I'm not. I'm not saying it's an upset. I'm not even saying the game's going to be close. I'm just saying it's going to be interesting. That's all I'm going to say.

C (98:44)

I like that. Interesting game of the week.

A (98:46)

Yeah, USF looks awesome. I mean, they. They took it to Boise.

E (98:51)

I mean, Ash. Boise, Boise, Post, JT Didn't. Didn't look quite the same.

C (98:55)

That, to me, is just more. More fuel to the fact that Ashton Ginty should have been the Heisman Trophy winner. We've said that from day one.

E (99:02)

Running backs are not going to win the height. They may as well just call it the quarterback award.

C (99:07)

Well, Travis. Yeah, he's pretty good.

E (99:10)

Yeah. Okay.

A (99:11)

The other, you know, four years ago, five years ago.

E (99:15)

That's been a minute.

A (99:15)

Yeah.

C (99:16)

Well, talk some NFL real quick.

A (99:18)

Little NFL.

E (99:18)

We. We can talk whatever you guys want to talk.

C (99:21)

Booger who. What team are you most excited to watch this year in terms of, like, something new is cooking up there? You're expecting something different from them. What's one team that you're. You're thinking about and you're just getting amped up, waiting to see what they look like on Sundays?

E (99:34)

Well, I think it's the Rams. You know, everybody is saying that it's. It's in the nfc, it's Detroit, it's Philly, it's Green Bay. I'm excited for the Rams. Like, the Rams are young. You know, years ago, when Raheem Morris got the job In Tampa, he coined a phrase called young Greek. We're young and hungry. I think that applies. Yeah, it's good. I'm gonna steal that, too.

C (99:53)

You're old grief right now.

E (99:55)

Exactly. I think it applies to the Rams.

A (100:01)

Yeah.

E (100:01)

Think about them like they're young. You got verse. You got the other kid that they drafted. I forget, is it Fisk? Yeah, the kid that. The defensive tackle. They drafted, Byron Young. Like they're really young on defense. And if the old man, Matthew Stafford is. If his back can hold up, man, like they're gonna be. They're gonna be really good. And think about this. They were one throw away from beating Philly in Philly in the snow last year.

A (100:26)

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they were.

E (100:29)

Rams are a good team. I'm gonna shock you with this one. It's not going to be popular. Is probably not even believable.

A (100:37)

Oh, boy.

E (100:38)

But if the Colts get competent quarterback. I mean, people don't talk about the Colts roster. Chris Ballard has done a really nice job of building a lot of talent. The problem has been the quarterback position. Anthony Richardson has just underperformed and underwhelmed. I don't know if Daniel Jones is ever going to be a superstar, but remember Andy Dalton? If Daniel Jones was Andy Dalton and Indy, how would you feel about Indy?

C (101:07)

I said they're a playoff team.

A (101:08)

Listen, that's my point in that division.

C (101:11)

Yeah.

A (101:12)

And I'll throw in there. I think people are not fully rating the move from Gus Bradley to Lou and Rumo because Gus Bradley's defense was as stale as stale could get. And they would get gashed every single weekend. And I think that they're. They have some dudes on defense. I. I don't hate that call. Especially in the AFC south where it's like, who knows what you're going to get? You know, The Texans have banged up receiving core going into the season. Trevor Lawrence has a big year coming. The Titans are trying to rebuild. I like that call.

E (101:46)

Yeah. I mean, the Titans are playing a rookie quarterback and he's going to go through his ups and downs. He doesn't know what. He doesn't know Jacksonville. Like, we've been waiting on Trevor Lawrence to be the generational guy since I don't know what Clemson and Houston. Houston's defense is going to be top five.

A (102:03)

Yep.

E (102:04)

Defense is going to be legit. I don't know if they can protect CJ Shroud. I honestly don't know. And. And have you. Have you seen Joe Mixon lately?

A (102:11)

Yeah. No. No. No one has.

E (102:14)

So who's running the ball.

C (102:15)

Nick Chubb, maybe Damian Pierce, I don't know.

A (102:17)

Yeah.

E (102:18)

Nothing against Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb is one of my favorite players ever for his perseverance. But Nick Chubb, like, he's had a couple of just bad knee injuries and it. To me, it's not if but when. Like, so I like. I'm not necessarily buying the Houston Texans, especially with no Joe mixing. You trade away Larry Toneso. The offensive line is going to be young and now your quarterback is going to be pressing because we told him that he wasn't good last year. So he wants to come out this year and be better. The defense is going to be good, but I just don't know what the Houston Texans are going to give us.

A (102:51)

I like everything you just said about the Colts, except for the fact that it's still Daniel Jones. Jones, like, you just kind of. You kind of got us there. Where I got.

C (102:58)

Nobody's not.

A (102:59)

I got pumped for the Colts for a second. Then I was like, wait a second.

C (103:01)

He's not being pretty big. If he's like, if he can be Andy Dalton, that's. It's sad that you have to be like, I'm begging for you to just be Andy Dalton.

A (103:10)

Yeah.

E (103:11)

If he, if he gets to be in. Listen, if he can just get close to being a Red rifle. They got enough talent around him.

A (103:18)

Man.

E (103:19)

If the. Hey, if the foreplay is so good, sometimes the sex doesn't really matter, does it? Like, think about that. I mean, I mean, let's be honest. If, if the foreplay is amazing. I mean, it's absolutely amazing.

A (103:32)

Yeah.

E (103:33)

Does the. I mean, are we willing to give a little bit on this?

A (103:37)

You're thinking about those donuts again.

C (103:39)

How much are you willing to compromise on this? Would you say, like, if he can be Jimmy Garoppolo?

E (103:47)

I need Andy Dawson, the good Jimmy. Okay.

B (103:51)

Good, good Jimmy.

E (103:52)

That went to the Super Bowl. That missed Emmanuel Sanders. Yes. I'll take that Jimmy.

C (103:56)

That Jimmy.

A (103:57)

How worried should I be about the packers adding Micah Parsons? I'm. I'm. It's bad. That was. That felt like the packers were already a really good team and they just were missing like one of those game changing guys on defense. And Micah Parsons is probably the number one game changing guy on. On defense. So talk me off the ledge. Is this. Is this. They're all in. That's the one thing I keep telling myself. They better win now.

E (104:23)

I think there's only one team that I would take over Green Bay right now on a neutral Field, and that's Philadelphia because I. Because I think Philadelphia still has the ability to line up and hit you in the mouth for Saquon Barkley. But if the packers get home field advantage and you got to go to Green Bay and you got to play up there, they're going to be tough to beat. Because here's the X Factor. Matt LaFleur is calling the place. If the quarterback is healthy, they got a runner. They got a bunch of young wide receivers. And if that defense led by Michael Parsons, Rashawn Gary, Devonte Wyatt, the kid from. The kid, Edric Cooper from A M. Craig Walker. They got a bunch of young dudes, man, that they don't know what they don't know. And they are just young and kind of crazy enough that they can go win it all this year. They got to stay healthy. I trust Matt LaFleur as a play caller more than I trust the guy in Detroit. More than I trust the guy in Philadelphia. More than I trust.

A (105:32)

Oh.

E (105:35)

I don't want to say McVeigh, but I'm almost willing to say more than I trust McVay. Like Matt LaFleur to me, is that good? So Green Bay, if Green Bay stays healthy, man, as I always say, they're going to be a tough out. Like you're going to have to really beat them and beat them the old fashioned way because they can play any type of game you want. They got a good runner, they got a good quarterback, they got a good receiver. Let's say the weather is shitty outside. They got a really good defense. So they can play any type of game you want to play.

A (106:00)

Did. Did you. Were you shocked that Dallas did that? And do you think that's a good move for Dallas?

E (106:06)

Was I shocked? No, because I think it had gotten personal. And emotions, when emotions become involved, like, Jerry Jones is a billionaire, but at his core he's a human being and he's a human that has emotions. And at a certain point, he made up in his mind, for whatever reason, that he wasn't gonna pay Micah. And it's no different than us, man. Like, people who are emotional are petty. Like, could he have paid Micah?

A (106:29)

Sure.

E (106:30)

He just decided not to. And then now I gotta come out and I gotta spin it and we can talk about all the other different things. But one of. One of my former coaches said this. You don't trade away great players, good players you can trade away, but you don't trade away great players because great players are hall of Fame players. And they're hard to come by regardless of what they do. All right, Jimmy Johnson said it best. I'm gonna treat everybody fairly. I'm not treating everybody equally. Okay, so Michael may have been hard to deal with. If he falls asleep in the meeting, wake him up. Hey, Michael, you might want to pay attention to this. It doesn't matter. Like, whatever he did, if you look at what he did on the field, there's only one other player that was, that started on the trajectory that he did, and that was Reggie White. And so was I shocked. Yes. But Jerry is a human, and it got emotional and it got petty. And Jerry, at the end of the day, think about this. The one thing that I know bothers Jerry is this, is that the three championships he won, people that know football said it was Jimmie Johnson. And if you watch that documentary, it bothers the heck out of him. He even says during the documentary, I'd pay a lot of money for another championship. So I think he wants to do two things. He wants to vindicate himself for the Jimmie Johnson trade because Jimmy often says he traded Herschel Walker. So this was his Herschel Walker trade. Even though they didn't get nearly what they got, this was his chance to say, look at what I did as the head, as the owner and gm. This is what I did. Let's see if it works. And number two, he wants a championship. I just don't know if Dallas is good enough.

A (108:03)

No, no. Although Dak does have receivers again, and he has been when he has that second option and George Pickens has to be. Has to keep his head on. He. Dak has had, you know, very good years.

E (108:18)

Like, I mean, if they can't score 40, they're not going to win.

A (108:20)

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right.

C (108:23)

So who do you have in the super bowl this year? Boga.

E (108:26)

Who do I have in the Super Bowl? If you had forced me to pick today, I'm going Buffalo, because I just believe at some point, it's your time. I'm going Buffalo Green Bay in the Super Bowl.

A (108:38)

Okay.

C (108:38)

And you have who winning?

E (108:44)

I think I, I think Green Bay does it, man. I, I, based on where we are today, I honestly do. Now you guys have asked me that, and so now I get to ask you a couple of questions about your team.

A (108:55)

Okay.

E (108:55)

Big Cat.

A (108:56)

Yeah.

E (108:56)

The Bears.

A (108:57)

Yeah.

E (108:57)

How. How are we feeling about Caleb Williams? One start, Ben Johnson, everything that's come out of Chicago. How do we feel?

A (109:06)

Okay. I'm excited to watch him play. I'm nervous. The one thing I'm excited about Is that or. I'm excited about a couple different things, but Ben Johnson, and from everything that I've watched read training camp, he is a true culture changer, and the Bears needed that in the worst way possible. So Caleb has everything right now. He has the play caller, he has the offensive line, maybe not left tackle. We'll figure out how that. How that goes. He has. He has what could be. And I. I've been very easy, even keeled this entire off season. But there's a chance. Would you. You tell me if I'm crazy for this. There's a chance that the Bears pass catchers could be an elite unit at the end of the season. Like, in terms of, you got Rome, you got DJ Moore, you got Colson Loveland, you got Cole commit, you got DeAndre Swift, you got some really good Luther Burden. Like, they have all of the. They put all the resources into this being a special group. So if Caleb is going to be the guy, it's got to be right. Like, he's got to do it. It's got. You got to see it this year. I. There's no more excuses, man. Last year was a shit show. This year, it feels like he has everything in front of him to be successful.

E (110:22)

I think your analysis is spot on. Basically what I heard is this. We got all the ingredients in the kitchen. It's time for him to go make the meal.

A (110:28)

Right. And I can't answer if he's, like, great or not, because I don't know. Like, I. Last year was. There was flashes where he was great. There's flashes where he was terrible. So it's like. And there was a lot of circumstances around that weren't working in his favor. Now we got him working his favor. As for the defense, that's. That's probably more of a concern. I don't know. The pass rush guys have to step up. There's got to be some guys that take a next step on the defensive line. And the secondary is a little. A little iffy after Jalen Johnson, who's hurt, who's coming in, you know, banged up. So we'll see. I do trust Dennis Allen. I don't know if the personnel totally fits what he wants to do, but I'm. I'm thinking the Bears are hopefully like an eight or nine win team. That would be awesome.

E (111:10)

Yeah. I think the Bears got an outside shot at 10 and 7, 9 and 8 somewhere in there. That's about right.

A (111:18)

Yeah.

E (111:18)

DFT, talk to me about these commanders. You trade away probably. I'm not going to say the heart and soul, but a guy who embodied, like a lot of traits that Dan Quinn wants. You trade away Brian Robinson and you finally get Terry McLaurin signed. Like, how we feeling, big guy?

C (111:36)

Jaden Daniels is so good. That's my. That's my analysis. He's awesome. He's awesome.

E (111:42)

He can't throw it and catch it, though.

C (111:44)

Yeah, but. So Debo, I think, is going to be a great addition because he does work the underneath. We didn't have a lot of yak coming out from Terry last year. I forget who are our leading guy at yards after catch was, but I don't think it was even Terry. I think it was probably. It might have been Diami Brown, I'm not sure, but. But Debo obviously specializes in that. Having Terry over the top is going to be great. I think I've watched a lot of Brian Robinson. I like Brian Robinson as a running back. I like him as a person, but he wasn't that dynamic. He was just like, okay, he's going to run up the middle. He'll get you three yards every time. He'll run into some defender's face and he's like a physical dude. That's kind of what he does. But he wasn't like, right. He's not a playmaker. I think from what I've heard and what I've seen, Bill, the running back that we got in the sixth round, Bill Crosky, Merritt, he's going to be great. I hope he is. If he stays healthy, I think he'll be awesome. He's more dynamic. But I think the real story of this year is going to be how good the defense plays. Because last year on offense, I think we're 87 on fourth down, which is insane. Right? Like, yeah, you're not.

E (112:46)

That's not going to happen again.

C (112:47)

It's not going to happen again. But we're still going to be. I think we're going to be pretty good on fourth down because we've got like, Jaden is a dynamic playmaker when he gets the ball in his hand, especially in short yardage. So I think we'll still be good, but really we won't. I hope that we won't have to be that good on fourth down next year because our defense, I'm hoping, is going to come up to like, maybe even above average. If we can have a. A middle of the pack or above average defense next next year, I think. I don't know. I don't know if it's like super bowl ready. But I think we're in the conversation for super bowl, which is crazy.

E (113:17)

I think you're a year away from, from that. Because I, I think right now, like, there's, there's a certain way you have to win. Win. Like Jaden Daniels has got to be spectacular. If he's not spectacular, how are you going to win? Like, so, like that, like, that's the way I look at these teams. Like, how many ways can you win if the weather is bad, if, like, if whatever is going on, if it's an offensive game or defensive game, like, how many ways can you win? And right now, the only way that you can win is. He's got to be awesome. Now, he has been awesome and he'll probably continue to be awesome, but can he be awesome for 20, 21, 21 Sundays? Because that's open. What it takes. It's going to take 20 or 21 Sundays to win it all. He's got to be awesome.

A (113:58)

Yeah.

C (113:58)

And there is the thing about the schedule. We had a very easy schedule last year. That is, that is the truth. If you go through and you look at it, it was last play schedule pretty favorable for us this year. It's night and day. So we got to play a lot of really good teams this year. So I'm expecting, I'm expecting a little bit. I'm going to say 11 wins for the Commanders this season. So one, one less than last year. But I think, But Booger, wait. I think they're going to be a better team, but they're going to only win 11 games this year.

E (114:26)

I agree. They may be a better team with the lesser record. I think you and I are sharing a brain just because the schedule is going to be tougher. Hey, I think both of you guys are very optimistic. I would love nothing more than to see you two guys in the playoffs. Both of you guys meet in the playoffs and you just take the part in my take pregame show on the road in Washington or at the new Soldier Field. To me, that would be absolutely awesome.

A (114:51)

Yeah, we're still. We haven't gotten our shovels in the ground yet for the new Soldier Field. We need. We still need it. We still need Arlington Heights to get it going. All right, Booger, I got one last question for you. Roback question. Rho b a c k.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. All right, so it's been about an hour since you Ate your six donuts. How are we feeling? Can't wait to have you back on in, in a few weeks and have you eat another six. Shouldn't have gone against Tommy Fleetwood, but how do you feel? You probably feel great. You probably want to eat six more.

E (115:24)

Well, I was thinking about it. Just so everyone knows, I did have six, and so they're the other six that are still in there. So as you can see, they're still there. I did knock out six. I feel good. The sweats have subsided. Not really sure if I'm gonna eat anything else. I drink a bottle of water. I think I need to drink about three or four more to see if I can flush the sugar out. I don't want it to absorb. I want it to just. Just kind of do like a pass through. Overall, I don't know how you do this every Sunday.

A (115:53)

Saturday, like.

E (115:55)

Well, every Saturday, like. Like this feeling that I feel, you know, like the sweats and the tingling, like, I don't know if that's a good feeling or not. Not really sure how you do it, but also know that I won't be eating six more donuts until later on when we do it. And then after that, I probably won't eat another donut for a couple of years.

C (116:13)

Yeah, a couple of years.

A (116:15)

Come on, you gotta. You love the donuts. Donuts are delicious.

E (116:18)

Donuts is great. Donuts are tremendous. My favorite snack, though is peanut butter. I could eat.

C (116:24)

I like that you eat off.

A (116:25)

What are you, a dog?

E (116:27)

No, I just like peanut butter. Yeah, on a spoon. That's it. Just put it on a spoon and eat it.

A (116:30)

We just put it in a little Kong toy so that you. You have something to do.

C (116:33)

We just give you a jar, and then you give it back and it's all cleaned out except for the very end of it.

E (116:37)

That. The very end of, like, the little swirl at the bottom. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

A (116:43)

All right, Booger, you're the best. Thank you so much. And we can't wait to see you soon for another six donuts.

E (116:49)

No doubt, man. Enjoy the fellas. Always a good time until Saturday morning when I. I see your next donut review. Hey, do me a favor.

A (116:57)

Yeah.

E (116:57)

Like, it's okay to indulge a little bit to me. Like, you bother me when you put the bacon and the chocolate on top of it. Like, yeah, like that. That. That really bothers me.

A (117:08)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the good ones. Those are the good ones.

E (117:12)

I mean, let's take it easy on those.

A (117:14)

All Right, Booger? Thanks so much.

C (117:18)

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A (118:26)

Okay, wrapping up the show. Reminder, we have a show on Wednesday where as of right now, are we. Are we doing a duel? Are we doing a Mount Rushmore duel?

D (118:39)

What are the standards?

C (118:39)

Okay, I got a question.

A (118:40)

Yeah.

C (118:40)

What happened in Friday's Mount Rushmore? What were the final results of that poll?

A (118:44)

Do you have the final results?

B (118:45)

Memes don't read in that.

A (118:47)

Okay, the final results were. You guys finished first. Nice.

C (118:52)

Me and Hank, Nice job.

A (118:53)

Hank got three points. Zach and I finished second, got two points, and then Max and Memes finished last, got one point.

C (119:03)

And what does that bring the total to that brings?

A (119:05)

Do we have the total? Do we have the exact total?

B (119:08)

If we go through with this, Rushmore as is, Rushmore is dead forever.

C (119:13)

Baseline of facts.

E (119:14)

Right?

B (119:15)

Forever. We can do it.

A (119:16)

We're just asking for the total.

C (119:18)

A baseline of facts needs to be established.

A (119:20)

We're just asking for your record.

B (119:23)

Well, let. Okay, can we get. I'm down. I'm down to talk facts as well.

C (119:27)

You can't. You can't say right about.

B (119:29)

No, no, no.

A (119:29)

Yeah.

C (119:30)

What was the.

B (119:30)

This is what happened.

E (119:31)

You.

B (119:32)

You guys came in first.

A (119:33)

No, we need the final score.

C (119:34)

We haven't even figured out what the final score was. I was never sent, but I think it's 51.

A (119:38)

48. 48. Oh, we got a duel. Got a duel. Is that a duel?

D (119:44)

That wouldn't imply. Yeah, because two people are tied for.

C (119:46)

We said that if two people are tied for third that it would be a duel between the two teams.

A (119:51)

Correct.

B (119:51)

Should we talk about the facts? You guys keep saying facts. You want to talk about the facts?

A (119:55)

Actually, just so we're correct here, because memes. I think he might have done that intentionally. It's actually 54. 48. 48.

C (120:03)

Okay.

A (120:04)

He said 51. 48. That. That could come into play later, my friend. That's a little foreshadowing.

B (120:13)

Yeah. No, let's talk about the facts.

A (120:15)

Let's talk about the facts.

C (120:16)

Present me with the facts. What facts? As you see them.

B (120:19)

Last week we put together a Mount Rushmore that. Here's what happened. Big Cat and PFT described that the exact scenario of how this would go as a duel. You must vote this, this and this if you want this. Maybe six times. Didn't say a word.

C (120:36)

Are we doing facts or hyperbole?

B (120:38)

That is a fact.

A (120:39)

Six times. You have facts on six times. Okay, you said you were doing it. Facts.

B (120:44)

All right, let me. Let me continue. Maybe, Maybe it was four times.

A (120:48)

Are we facts or not? Right.

B (120:49)

All right, let me continue. Let me continue.

A (120:51)

What are we doing?

B (120:51)

Let me continue. Then Big Cat had the first pick.

E (120:55)

Hank.

B (120:56)

Hank. And PFD had the second pick.

C (120:58)

Correct.

A (120:59)

Big Cat, Big Head and Zach.

B (121:01)

Big Cat and Zach selected Dylan Harper over Cooper flag.

A (121:05)

What are you talking about, dude? I hate taking people to the airport. You hate. Said it many times.

B (121:10)

Yes, for sure. You definitely hate that more than helping people moves.

A (121:14)

I haven't.

B (121:14)

I.

A (121:14)

Honestly, I'm. I'm 40.

B (121:16)

You said there are two. You said there are two. Clear.

C (121:20)

Max. Max. I thought you were going to take this in entirely.

B (121:22)

No, no, no, no. I'm saying we're going day by day. Day by day. This is what happened. And me. And me and Meme stood by and. And said, okay, I understand. For the good of the show. They want a duel. They're gonna like.

A (121:34)

Can I.

B (121:34)

That's fine. That's fine.

A (121:35)

May I say something?

B (121:36)

Yes.

A (121:37)

I'm a 40 year old man. Okay. All my friends are grown. All my friends are the same age as me. None of my friends have asked me to move their house for 15 years.

B (121:49)

I brought this up to you earlier and you started laughing.

A (121:52)

Other people.

B (121:53)

Another fact.

A (121:55)

I could have been laughing. I was happy to see you. You're a funny guy. Other people. Other people in my life have asked me for airport trips even in the last year. I'm just going off. What's relatable to me is that you love driving. I do, but not to the airport. Not to the airport.

B (122:12)

Okay. Okay.

A (122:13)

I don't. I don't drive to the airport.

B (122:14)

Right. Do you like helping people move?

A (122:18)

I honestly can't remember last time. I wouldn't even know.

B (122:21)

Okay.

A (122:22)

I might. I actually might. I might. I don't know.

C (122:24)

This.

A (122:25)

Would you offer me pizza and beer?

B (122:27)

Let's go.

C (122:28)

This actually might backfire against Max because he's throwing just everything at the wall instead of targeting and zeroing in on one.

B (122:34)

What I am saying is that there was obvious. Is a wild accusation to say it's this. There was obvious collusion going into the polls on Friday, and Memes and I stood by and we're like, you know what?

E (122:45)

You're.

B (122:46)

We'll allow this to happen.

A (122:47)

Let's see how.

B (122:48)

Let's see how the poll plays out.

C (122:49)

That sounds like.

A (122:51)

To talk.

B (122:52)

Yes.

D (122:54)

I can't control what Big Cat does. If he doesn't pick moving, we are obviously taking moving. That's not as colluding. That's not collusion.

A (123:03)

I think the collusion part is when I told you guys I was going to take the airport trip and you guys take the moving. Oh, that was probably.

B (123:10)

I don't.

A (123:11)

I don't know what you're talking about.

B (123:11)

There we go.

C (123:12)

I was not a part of that conversation.

B (123:14)

Okay.

A (123:14)

I don't. You guys. I don't. You guys were both in the room when I said, I don't.

B (123:17)

Obviously that. That's what was going on. I knew that what was. That's what was going on. And we said.

C (123:23)

I have a point. All these protests are fine.

B (123:27)

But this isn't even the protest.

C (123:28)

No, but traditionally.

A (123:29)

Oh, this isn't the protest. No, the.

C (123:31)

The protest has to be made. If you're saying if you're live lobbying accusations of collusion or, hey, you threw that pick, you would typically make that argument during the Mount Rush.

A (123:40)

1.

B (123:41)

No, not what I. That is. What I am saying is that I was allowed. I was not allowing the collusion to happen for the good of the show and in good faith, I was allowing this to happen.

A (123:52)

Okay, but can I just say.

B (123:54)

So would you like to talk about.

A (123:56)

Can I make my opening statement? Can I make my opening statement?

D (123:59)

Well, I don't think Max has even got to his protest yet.

A (124:02)

Oh, yeah, he hasn't got. But I would like to make an opening statement. All I care about is awls, and I want to put on the best show possible.

B (124:08)

Good point.

A (124:08)

And I care about the awls getting a duel. We will. If my love for the awl is a crime, lock me the fuck up and throw away the key. Right, Zach? Correct. Zach and I are going to be bunk bed mates in prison, kissing every night on the lips.

B (124:25)

So we get to Friday.

E (124:27)

So we get top or bot.

A (124:28)

Which monk you want?

B (124:30)

So we get.

A (124:31)

I would like to go bottom because I would probably fall off the top. Deal. I'll take the ladder.

B (124:34)

What about get to Friday because they know.

A (124:36)

What about that? Day by day.

E (124:37)

Whatever we gotta do. Whatever we gotta do.

A (124:39)

We're gonna hear Friday. Whatever we got to do to survive. Right, Zach? I get my back. I get your back. All right? If I have to pimp you out, proceed. So be it. If I. If you have to be. If I have to be like, hey, guys, Zach's got a bunch of holes.

B (124:53)

Won't. Let's get fried.

A (124:54)

Just don't fuck with us. But you can take any of them. We can find other ways to make money in prison. But I'm just. So many ways. Let's start other ways, man.

C (125:00)

There's so many ways.

B (125:01)

I said I wouldn't do it. I'm about.

C (125:02)

No, don't get mad.

B (125:04)

No. I was 10 seconds away of just playing the video. I'm not gonna play the video.

A (125:08)

Out of. The video's illegal.

B (125:09)

I'm not gonna play the good.

A (125:10)

The video is illegal.

B (125:12)

But I will talk about what happened in the video.

A (125:14)

Okay, you're gonna talk about the video. Talk about what the. The pretext of the video were. We were taping a video. We were taping a podcast that we were sending to our ghostwriter about the book. That is confidential information that should. Should never be seen.

B (125:30)

Was this part of the book again?

A (125:33)

You're robbing the awls because if you put out the video, then the awls will see how the book gets made, and they won't buy the book. We want the AWS to have a great book experience, right? Pft.

C (125:42)

Well, it's really more about the contract that we have with the publisher. So we could release that. That tape. Tape. Unfortunately, if we did, that would be, I think, like five to ten years in prison.

B (125:50)

Okay, so I'm going to talk about what happened in that tape. So the poll comes out. PFT and Hank go out to an easy lead up to like, 60%.

C (126:00)

Nice job.

A (126:00)

Good job, guys. That. That, that.

B (126:02)

Pick an hour. An hour in.

C (126:07)

Wait a second. You know what's disgusting about this whole process?

B (126:10)

You guys just Never let me talk. Jesus Christ. I said I wasn't gonna get mad. You guys are so fucking annoying.

C (126:17)

You talk a lot, Max.

B (126:18)

You won't let me fucking talk. I've been trying to say let's get to Friday for the past 20 fucking minutes.

C (126:23)

All this is a. It's a.

B (126:25)

Big Cat was talking about bunk beds or something.

E (126:27)

What the.

B (126:28)

I don't even know what you were saying.

A (126:29)

We were talking about how we survive in prison because we love the awl so much, and if it's a crime, lock us up.

C (126:33)

And Zach said he would take the bottom belt, right?

A (126:35)

He said that he would let me get top punk. He doesn't want the ladder, and I'm allowed to pimp out every single one of his holes. We. We're going to find other ways to make money in prison.

C (126:43)

What about the kissing?

B (126:44)

This is what happened. We go up 5%, Big Cat turns. Everyone goes, oh, shit, we're going to lose. Then Hank goes, oh, you should do something. Big Cat goes, oh, oh, I have an idea. I have an idea.

D (126:54)

I did not say you should do something.

B (126:56)

He tweets for no true. Big Cat says, I need to do something. Hank goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tweet it, tweet it. Do it, do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then Big Cat tweets from his burner.

A (127:06)

Whoa, whoa, Whoa.

B (127:07)

Who up 5%. He tweets from his burner, retweets himself from his main account, and it flips 10% in three minutes.

C (127:14)

I was looking at Big Cat Scout.

A (127:15)

I did not.

B (127:16)

Somebody texted Rico Bosco and say that if you don't vote for Team One, you're a rider. You're not a rider.

A (127:21)

Wrong. Wrong.

B (127:22)

Yeah, right.

A (127:23)

No, I DM'd him wrong. I DM the Rider hype Circle.

B (127:27)

So if we continue with this Rushmore as is, this ends Mount Rushmore season forever. Forever. There's no point of doing it during the regular season.

C (127:37)

Can I talk now? Yeah, okay. In the past when we've had these disputes about Mount Rushmore season, like, can I talk, Max?

B (127:44)

Yeah, sure.

A (127:45)

Please let him talk.

B (127:46)

I never get to talk on this show.

C (127:52)

Max, we have established a pattern on this show. We've established a punishment for when you break the sanctity of the poll.

A (128:01)

Yep.

C (128:01)

And you tweet something about the poll. Hey, Himself did it earlier this year.

B (128:07)

You never lost a point for it.

A (128:09)

Oh, no.

B (128:10)

So do you want to lose a point for it right now, Idiot.

A (128:13)

Pft. You never lost.

B (128:16)

What's the rule?

A (128:17)

What's the rule?

C (128:18)

The the rule is we talk. The rule is. The rule is that if you win, then you get a point deducted.

A (128:30)

I. And I'll go. You know what? I not only will take.

C (128:34)

You get automatic third place.

A (128:35)

I'm going to take two points away from Zach and I. And I also. You weren't here on Friday, Max. But Zach and I agreed to an eight month show cause penalty. No Mount Rushmore. So if we do in the middle of February, we are not allowed to.

B (128:50)

We can do this. These you. We can go Lupo, loophole. Loophole. Or we can go as is and just be like, no. We're going to pretend like nothing on Friday ever happened and we're just going.

A (129:04)

To do a normal duel.

B (129:05)

Or there's three options that we can do. We can completely forget what happened on Friday and. And do. And do two and do a duel between me and memes. Hank. Bfd. Which ends Mount Rushmore forever. That ends the entire integrity of this show. I would argue.

C (129:20)

And that's already been gone since pizza.

D (129:22)

This show has to my.

A (129:25)

Oh, no. Would you.

B (129:26)

Hank.

A (129:27)

What will happen if we die?

B (129:30)

Oh, my God.

A (129:31)

If Mount Rushmore was lost five years ago, Hank, if you were in my.

B (129:35)

Spot right now, you would be.

A (129:37)

Oh. Oh.

B (129:40)

You would be fucking insufferable. Oh, my God. You used to cry just because they had a bigger following than you for no reason.

D (129:49)

Well, you're getting mad about Youngstown Bob's following, which is pretty crazy.

A (129:53)

Young sound. Bob is not a retweet from Big. He's a real person. Retweets are not endorsements.

B (129:58)

And a text of Rico Bosco saying that if all riders.

A (130:02)

You're wrong. Dm.

B (130:04)

What are we doing?

A (130:05)

Retweets are not endorsed. It says it in my bio. Retweets aren't a thing anymore.

C (130:10)

I think there's one way to solve what.

B (130:11)

Yes.

A (130:12)

It's called a repo.

B (130:13)

We go as.

A (130:14)

Wait, no. You see our originals.

B (130:16)

And the third way is the real way to do it. We go as our original plan. As if there wasn't two losing teams that the two of you would duel and the worst person would do the punishment.

A (130:26)

I'm okay with that. Yeah, but that's what it was supposed to be tied.

C (130:30)

I'm not.

B (130:31)

That's what it was.

A (130:31)

We should not be. We.

D (130:33)

We did not know what was going to happen at the end of that poll. Big cat colluding should not affect us.

E (130:37)

Yeah. We didn't do it.

B (130:38)

Hey, Big cat. Do it, do it. Big cat. Do it, do it, do it. Big Cat do it.

A (130:42)

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

D (130:44)

We were talking about the book.

A (130:46)

We were talking about the book. He said, you were not talking about the book. Write the book. I said, yeah, let's a have have young. So Bob tweet about the book? Yeah, yeah.

D (130:52)

I also Big I. I if big I didn't retweet it. Which no one told him to retweet it. I thought he was just gonna. He said, I have an idea, which.

A (131:00)

I should probably be deducted a point.

D (131:02)

He said, I have an idea also, which I like his ideas. The DM with the writers, I think is. Is above board. Like, that's. That's just all. That's.

A (131:09)

That's rider stuff.

B (131:10)

But the. The look in your face of the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (131:16)

Well, you watch that tape. That's illegal.

B (131:18)

Yeah, I watch a tape.

A (131:19)

You're gonna be in jail. You're gonna be in jail with me.

B (131:22)

And those are the three options. So, Max, Those are the three options.

C (131:24)

The three options got very confusing. Explain them again.

A (131:26)

I feel like we should all do it before. But Zach, before we do the three options, rank your holes that you want me to pimp out. We're gonna make so much more money in prison.

C (131:35)

There's so many other.

A (131:36)

Which.

B (131:37)

There's four options. Oh, there's option is the two of you do a duel and. Because memes and are the only one who didn't do anything wrong here.

C (131:43)

Me and Hank.

A (131:44)

What did we know?

B (131:45)

You two do a duel against Big Cat and Zach.

A (131:47)

No, we finished first. We're not doing. I think. I think. Okay, we go the. The Jesus thing. Oh, this is insane. I mean, that did.

B (131:58)

I mean, big. I mean, why did you made that. Why did you.

D (132:00)

Why didn't you deduct the point then? Now we're deducting points from something that happened four months ago.

C (132:04)

It's a good point.

A (132:05)

It's not four months ago, but two months ago.

C (132:07)

It's a good point.

A (132:07)

How long do you think summer is?

C (132:08)

It's a long time.

A (132:09)

How long have you been golfing?

C (132:11)

It was in July. It was actually like a month.

B (132:14)

You guys said we're gonna lose.

E (132:16)

You.

B (132:17)

You. You saw that you were gonna lose, and then you just changed the entire game.

C (132:21)

Wait, no, we were not gonna.

D (132:22)

I didn't do any.

C (132:22)

We were in first place.

B (132:24)

You saw that you were going to lose the season of Mount Rushmore.

C (132:27)

I didn't see anything.

A (132:29)

I had a good.

E (132:30)

We've.

D (132:31)

We've come back. We came back last week.

C (132:33)

Eight points.

A (132:33)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (132:34)

Do it.

E (132:34)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (132:35)

He said, I have a plan. I didn't know what the plan was. If I.

D (132:37)

If he said what his plan was was illegal, I would have said no, because I respect the sexy Mount Rushmore. He did not say, watch the clip. Play the video. He said, I have an idea.

A (132:45)

I'm a rogue actor.

D (132:46)

He said, I have an idea.

A (132:48)

I did not.

D (132:48)

He did not say what he was going to do in the video that you're.

A (132:51)

And I was looking up.

B (132:51)

He said, also incorrect.

D (132:53)

He said, I have an idea.

B (132:54)

Should we play the video? I have the video.

C (132:56)

No, we can't play the video.

A (132:57)

Okay.

B (132:57)

All right. All right, good.

A (132:59)

Why? Because.

B (133:00)

Because Shows your guilt.

C (133:02)

More than anything. I love to play that.

B (133:03)

Shows your guilt.

A (133:04)

We can't. All right, so Hank and pft, you guys want to do.

C (133:11)

I mean, this seems like you're. You're just. You're tucking tail.

D (133:15)

You're kind of. You kind of just fucked us.

C (133:16)

Yeah, okay, fine.

A (133:17)

Then I'll. Then I'll deduct points, and you guys duel.

B (133:20)

We did nothing. We did nothing wrong. Why are we getting put in a situation to do a punishment for no reason? For no reason?

C (133:33)

Well, the. The way the voters voted.

B (133:35)

Yes. By completely manipulating the polls.

A (133:38)

But. And you know that you manipulate them.

C (133:40)

That's not on us.

E (133:41)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

D (133:43)

He said, I have a plan. I have an idea.

E (133:45)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (133:48)

You can. Like, you know what you did.

A (133:51)

I didn't do anything.

B (133:51)

I spot. I didn't do anything. Same thing I did.

A (133:54)

Not.

B (133:54)

Tenfold. Tenfold. If we.

A (133:57)

If.

B (133:57)

If the.

A (133:58)

If.

B (133:58)

If you two do a duel against us two, it. There's no Rushmore anymore. It means nothing.

C (134:04)

Okay.

B (134:04)

Why? Because then you guys have millions and millions of followers.

E (134:07)

Max.

B (134:08)

You can do whatever you want.

C (134:09)

Max.

A (134:10)

I. I will.

B (134:10)

You can make this. You can make it whatever you want.

C (134:13)

I will.

B (134:13)

Which. Which means that, like, if this is a 50. 50 duel between us and you and we lose, it's like the biggest. The biggest controversy in the history of all of Internet. I told Shane I wasn't gonna get mad, and I actually think I'm doing a pretty good job.

C (134:33)

Yeah, you're doing great, Max. What if I told you I'd be willing to accept doing a duel against Hank again for the second year in a row, but I would have a chance.

A (134:43)

But what about your.

D (134:44)

Your followers arguments? Then hurts me because I'm going against pft, but you.

B (134:49)

But you won't tweet the poll and say, vote for this and vote for this.

D (134:53)

I didn't do that.

A (134:54)

I never did that.

C (134:55)

That.

E (134:55)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

D (134:56)

He didn't say what the plan was.

B (134:58)

You knew what the plan.

D (134:59)

No, I didn't.

A (135:00)

I.

B (135:00)

You.

C (135:00)

No one knew.

A (135:01)

No one knew that you.

B (135:02)

This is insane. If you don't.

D (135:03)

I have an idea.

C (135:04)

Yeah, he had an idea.

D (135:05)

The idea was to write our house.

B (135:07)

Was to manipulate the polls. That was the idea.

C (135:09)

Big Cat said, I have an idea. And, Hank, what's your job? You're executive producer.

B (135:13)

You guys started debating what the punishment would be?

C (135:16)

Fact or fiction?

B (135:17)

You guys started debating what the punishment would be?

A (135:19)

Yeah.

B (135:20)

Yeah, yeah.

A (135:20)

All right. What if we did a duel? Max and Memes versus PFT and Hank. And if Max and Memes lose, Zach and I will do the punishment with you.

B (135:38)

You know.

A (135:40)

I'm offering it. Obviously, I got involved. I don't think I should be punished for loving the awls and wanting a duel. But. But again, it seems like that's a crime in Max's eyes. He hates.

B (135:52)

We had a plan for a duel. I don't know. I don't know why you just forgot that we had a duel in place.

C (135:57)

I have a question.

B (135:58)

If, like, we talked about this, that if there wasn't two final teams, we were going to do a duel between the last place players.

C (136:06)

If it's.

B (136:07)

We always had that.

C (136:08)

If it's a duel between myself and Hank and Max and Memes, what assurances do we have that you're not going to rig this bull poll?

A (136:14)

I'm not gonna touch it. So also, you were. You guys were all in on me rigging.

B (136:19)

You guys are the only one.

D (136:20)

I had no idea what the idea was.

A (136:22)

Don't do that.

D (136:23)

I had no idea what the idea.

B (136:25)

Like, we should just go through with what the poll was about to do.

C (136:28)

I was.

B (136:28)

It was going to be Hank versus bft.

C (136:31)

To be clear, that's not necessarily true. I was never. I was never in favor of rigging the poll. In fact, when I found out what happened, my first. I think my reaction was like, big Cat and Zach should be in the duel, too.

B (136:42)

That was. That was your reaction. But then Hank said, But then Hank said, no, we'll give him a one point deduction, because BCAT was like, I'm not doing that if I'm in the duel. And then Hank says, no, no, you.

A (136:52)

Won'T be in the duel.

B (136:55)

That's what happened.

A (136:56)

Now I remember.

B (136:56)

Hank goes, no, no, no, you won't be in the duel. You won't be in the duel. Just do it. You're like, no. Minus one point. Minus one point. It'll just. It'll just be us.

C (137:05)

Then I went along with it because I was like, well, that means that. That I might not have to do the punishment.

A (137:09)

I forgot you gave me immunity. Hank.

B (137:11)

Hank. It was a tag team between Big Cat and Hank being like, let's rig this thing.

A (137:17)

No, no, no, no, no, no.

D (137:20)

I. When big. I bet I. I have made a career off of Big Cat, you know, pushing him to pursue his ideas. He has good ideas.

A (137:29)

Yeah.

D (137:29)

I didn't know what this one was. I wish I did in hindsight.

A (137:32)

True. He's an ideas guy.

C (137:33)

Guy.

A (137:34)

I trust him. Whatever he says it.

C (137:36)

I'll do the duel with Hank.

D (137:37)

Yeah, I'll do. I'll do a duel.

B (137:39)

That's the intent, the integrity to go through with what it was.

C (137:42)

Well, it'd be a real shame that.

D (137:44)

The poll got rigged because like, we.

A (137:45)

It definitely could have switched. I gave him fair options.

C (137:48)

It's also just a real shame that Max is just going to go down history as an all time whiner. But we'll do it.

B (137:54)

This is. Is what it was supposed to be.

A (137:57)

But I. I did give a fair option there that we would do. Do the.

B (138:00)

Dude, I'm fine with. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.

A (138:02)

We're the only one.

B (138:03)

Will. I'm okay with that. No, you guys, the four.

C (138:10)

Max, take a lap.

B (138:11)

No, no.

C (138:11)

Think about it.

B (138:12)

I think. I think I.

C (138:15)

Your brain's going too fast right now.

B (138:18)

The four of us should have an advantage somehow in this duel because they should have lost.

A (138:22)

Young Bob could tweet about it. No, there's no. No.

C (138:29)

Hank and I'll do the duel.

B (138:31)

I think.

D (138:32)

Yeah, let's do I.

A (138:34)

What do you got, Max? Use that brain. Use that brain.

C (138:38)

Deep breath.

B (138:39)

What if we.

C (138:41)

You gotta take a couple deep breaths.

B (138:42)

What if we do a 2v2v2 and if.

A (138:48)

No, that's just Mount Rushmore.

B (138:50)

What am I trying.

C (138:51)

There's just nothing there right now. You're upset.

B (138:54)

I think that. I think that they're. I want to do the duel, but I want to have an advantage of winning without 100% winning.

A (139:01)

Well, why don't you do the duel and we can come up with a secondary punishment if you guys lose. That's. That's less severe. We are. We still got a. We still got a lottery ball for the punishment. We could come up with. Why don't we come up with punishments Right now I'm in.

D (139:19)

I'm also gonna just do the duel with pft. I didn't realize this was such a.

C (139:22)

Yeah, I'm down too.

A (139:23)

Or I forgot you gave me immunity.

C (139:25)

Did you remember Hank and I could do a one man one v two. I didn't know Max and Memes. I go. I go, and then Hank goes, and then we both go together against them. And if we sweep them all three times, we beat them.

A (139:40)

Oh, that's. That would be good.

C (139:41)

Then they lose.

A (139:42)

That would be good.

C (139:43)

But if you beat us. If you beat us even once, then me and Hank lose, and now we have to duel each other.

B (139:49)

Okay, so that would be. What show would that be?

A (139:54)

We're gonna Wednesday duel, and then we could Friday single duel if we needed to. I like that idea. Okay.

C (140:03)

Yeah. So Wednesday will be me against Max and Memes. Hank against Max and Memes. Me and Hank together against Max and Memes. Only way that they have to do the punishment is if we go 3 for 3.

A (140:15)

3 for 3. Again, if you have to do the punishment, I will do the punishment with you as my. As my punishment.

B (140:22)

This is. That's. That's what I was trying to get to. That's what I was trying.

C (140:25)

And then Max, on Friday's show, do you want to duel Memes if we lose?

A (140:30)

Yeah.

C (140:30)

To see which one of you two has to take on the punishment.

A (140:33)

Yeah. If you lose, you guys just do the punishment with us.

B (140:36)

Yeah.

A (140:36)

Zach, will you be okay with. With.

B (140:38)

Yeah.

A (140:39)

You're the most innocent person out of everything here. If I get.

C (140:43)

So if they lose, we do it.

A (140:45)

Right, but if they win, we don't do it right.

B (140:46)

Okay, but we have more of a chance of winning.

A (140:48)

They have to sweep.

C (140:49)

Yeah.

B (140:49)

This is fair. This. This. This is what I was trying to come to in my head.

C (140:52)

It was Max, but I.

B (140:53)

But I wasn't able to get to it. Thank you. Thank you for helping me lay in that place.

A (140:58)

Great idea.

B (140:58)

I almost said laying that boat.

C (140:59)

I was.

A (141:00)

All right, so do we all feel comfortable?

B (141:02)

Yeah, no, this feels good.

A (141:03)

I think this is good to read. There's going to be a duel on Wednesday's show. It's going to be PFT versus Max. Is that what you want to do? The setup?

C (141:13)

Yeah, we could do that. Me versus Max and then.

A (141:14)

And then Hank versus memes.

C (141:16)

Yep.

A (141:16)

And then 2v2.

C (141:18)

Yep.

A (141:19)

And then PFT and Hank have to sweep to win. And if. If Max and Memes lose and have to do the punishment, I will join them, and Zach will join Them in the punishment as punishment for malfeasance on. Even though Hank gave us.

B (141:33)

I have a question. Can I. Before I. Before I officially agree.

C (141:37)

Left hand up.

B (141:39)

How do I pft has the most followers out of the four of us.

A (141:42)

No, no, no, no, no. It's back to regular rules. No retweets, no likes, nothing.

C (141:47)

The winding out Pug.

B (141:49)

Pug gets to decide if anything.

A (141:51)

Correct. Okay. Any type of. Any type of tomfoolery immediately.

B (141:56)

I just needed to. I just needed to make sure that that was stated.

A (141:59)

Yeah, like we didn't. We did a whole Mount Rushmore season clean. So Young sound Bob fired off a tweet. What are you going to do? Can't control him.

C (142:06)

It's going to Loose tongue that guy.

B (142:08)

Yeah, I thought for sure you were going to have him call in and say that. Say that he tweeted it.

A (142:12)

No, of course I tweeted it. What? I tweeted it. I DM the riders. I colluded with the first pick. Again. The only crime I have here is that I love the awls, and I wanted it to. And we have a duel.

B (142:24)

So we have a duel.

A (142:25)

And justify the means. Everything I did. Even though I'm now up for a punishment, I'm okay with it because I love the awls. I wanted him to see a duel.

C (142:33)

Duel up.

A (142:33)

All right, so the duel will happen on Wednesday show. Zach and I will come up with the topics. It reminder for the duel. It is off the dome. So it's no. No computer, no phone. We say a topic, and you do it.

B (142:45)

You're gonna have to beat Hank.

A (142:46)

Yeah. And it won't be. It's not gonna be like, you know, biggest underdog wins ever. You know, I mean, like something that's like. You got to like, actually look up, like, greatest calls in sports history. It's going to be pretty straightforward duel. Okay.

C (143:02)

Let's rip it.

A (143:03)

All right. Before we do lottery balls or Pug is back. Back from Greece. Back from his honeymoon. Pug, what was the. I screwed up the time zones today. The. The podcast is going to be released on YouTube at 6pm Eastern. Correct. 6am 6am Eastern. What the fuck? I screwed that up so bad today. It's because the clocks changed. 6:00am Eastern. Right. Is the podcast and be released. Yeah. On YouTube.

C (143:33)

So 5am Yes. 5 Central. 5 Central.

A (143:35)

That will be all football season. All right.

E (143:37)

Yep.

C (143:38)

Went to Greece on the honeymoon. It was awesome. Got some gifts for the boys.

A (143:41)

Hello, Opa.

E (143:48)

Big cat.

C (143:49)

Got you a little minotar bobblehead. Pretty Sick.

A (143:51)

Oh, hell yes. Still wrapped my. Oh, my bobblehead collection.

C (143:57)

Still wrapped up. But that's sick.

A (144:00)

Wait, bring it in here, Zach.

C (144:03)

Look at that guy. Oh, that's awesome. Go Bulls. Bulls are back.

A (144:06)

Go right next to the Pope in the. The Hawaiian iron lady. Here, give the. Shane, Shane.

E (144:11)

Go.

A (144:12)

Bring it. Forget about that.

C (144:14)

Pft. I got you a Greek mini guitar.

E (144:17)

Pretty cool.

C (144:17)

Oh, hell yeah. Like a ukulele. Yeah, Love. That is the Greek equivalent.

A (144:22)

I like that. Shane got me a pope bobblehead. Now I'm just a bobblehead guy.

C (144:26)

Yeah, I followed the trends on some past. Thank you, Pug. Oh, that's all? Yeah, it's like a little ukulele. That's the best gift I've ever gotten. I have a actual name of it. It called the bouzouki. Holy. That's awesome. Thank you, Pug.

D (144:38)

Did you lose the cart?

A (144:40)

What?

C (144:41)

Lose the cart.

A (144:41)

Oh, what's the car. Oh, no, I got the cart right here. Of course, for Max.

C (144:46)

He is an Italian man, so. Every good Italian man needs olive oil. So hook the boy up.

B (144:51)

This is all.

A (144:52)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, look at this.

C (144:55)

Look at this bad boy.

A (144:56)

Look at my little. I got. I got the minotaur, Hawaiian lady, Pope and a golf cart for Hank.

C (145:04)

I know he has an official desk now, so I got him a little desk decor.

A (145:08)

Little spartan head.

C (145:10)

Pretty sick.

A (145:10)

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.

C (145:12)

Bronze. Little spartan head.

A (145:14)

Is that paperweight?

C (145:15)

Could be used for various purposes, I.

A (145:17)

Would say, but give us three purposes.

C (145:21)

Decoration, paperweight.

A (145:25)

Vibes. Okay. Nice, Nice.

C (145:29)

For Zach, since he is not an intercourse guy. I got him. It's a deck of playing cards with Greek erotic scenes from history.

A (145:39)

So nice. Very graphic.

C (145:41)

Yeah.

A (145:42)

Sexual position.

C (145:43)

What kind of erotic scenes show the camera. What kind of erotic scenes are the Greeks known for? Just various, I would say.

A (145:50)

Yeah.

C (145:55)

For Shane. Shane has always asked me for a bottle opener, so I got him this. It's a penis. Bottle opener, black penis.

A (146:03)

Very nice.

C (146:07)

And memes. I got a little. I was trying to find tits. There was a lot of penises, not a lot of tits, but I was able to find a little. Little Greek tits lady for you.

B (146:17)

Yes.

C (146:20)

Hell yeah.

B (146:21)

Oh.

A (146:24)

How did you eat? Well. Oh, I ate so good.

C (146:27)

Love that the stomach was not up because sheep's milk.

E (146:30)

So we were good.

A (146:32)

Nice. You go to the beach? Huh?

C (146:34)

You go to the beach a lot? Yeah, a lot of beach, good food, good vibes. You see any. Any like old architecture? Like the Acropolis? Yeah, I went to the Acropolis. A lot of ancient theaters and ancient buildings, a lot of Greek gods and mythology.

E (146:49)

Very, very cool.

C (146:50)

Love it. Stavi, was he there? No, but there was a lot of people named Stavros. A lot of random Stavros's. For Jack, I got some. Some authentic Greek candy called Lakumi. Very good. It's addicting and. Yeah, that's it. Thanks, Pug. Thank you.

A (147:08)

Great to have you back.

C (147:09)

That's the man right there.

E (147:10)

It's good to be back.

A (147:11)

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C (148:27)

22 took 33.

A (148:29)

Six memes.

C (148:31)

This is a fun toy.

A (148:38)

2899 pug. It's good.

E (148:43)

1931.

C (148:47)

Rapper boobs 76.

A (148:51)

Shane has 76.

C (148:52)

I don't think.

A (149:00)

90. 90 sa Sam.