CFB With Brandon Walker, CFP Rankings, Patriots Crush The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener FAQ's

Summary

Pardon My Take — "CFB With Brandon Walker, CFP Rankings, Patriots Crush the Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener FAQs"

Date: December 3, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter
Guest: Brandon Walker
Podcast: Pardon My Take (Barstool Sports)

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Episode Overview

This episode is a sports-talk extravaganza tightly focused on college football’s latest chaos. With guest Brandon Walker, the guys dive into freshly released College Football Playoff (CFP) rankings, the swirling drama around automatic qualifiers, Lane Kiffin’s boomerang coaching journey, the collapse of the Giants at the Patriots’ hands, and the Hot Seat/Cool Throne tradition. Along the way they riff on NFL stats, F1, penultimate listener FAQs, and sports fandom’s illogical loyalties. Expect banter, yelling, statistics, and bizarre mascot talk — all in the PMT tone: part satirical, part fan-crazed.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. College Football Playoff Rankings & Chaos

[02:33–16:59]

• JMU and Chaos with Group of Five (G5) Bids:
  • PFT celebrates James Madison University’s top 25 ranking, marvels at the unexpectedly chaotic format where G5 teams, Tulane, and UNT could potentially make the playoff, while big brands like Notre Dame might miss out.
  • “It is absurd that we found ourselves in a situation ... two group of five teams that get into college football’s championship ... and you have teams like Notre Dame that could be left out.” — PFT [02:47]
• Automatic Qualifiers — Fairness and Future Reform:
  • Big Cat insists including automatics is the only fair option given college football’s landscape. Suggests an eventual expansion to a 16-team format to address competitive imbalance.
  • “It’s chaos right now. We knew it was gonna be chaotic and weird for the first couple years of this. I think it eventually will get to 16 and then people will stop bitching as much.” — Big Cat [05:06]
• The Notre Dame/Miami Dilemma:
  • Discussion around rankings near the playoff cutoff: Will head-to-head results matter for Notre Dame vs. Miami selection? If Miami's ranked just above or below Notre Dame, does the committee defer to the on-field result?
  • PFT highlights the politics: “If their names are written directly next to each other, one number apart, and then one team beat the other team — I think that’s what the committee would do.” [08:19]
• Alabama, BYU, & Championship Scenarios:
  • If BYU beats Texas Tech, committee has a hard choice; could force Miami to leapfrog Notre Dame in final rankings. Alabama’s status if they lose to Georgia also considered.
• The Messaging of Rankings — Preseason and Biases:
  • Big Cat and Brandon air grievance about how preseason rankings tend to bias the committee all season, especially Oregon over Ole Miss.
  • “Because Oregon was ranked higher to start the season. That’s just how it works.” — Big Cat [11:23]

2. Lane Kiffin’s Coaching Melodrama

[75:15–86:48]

• Brandon Walker Grill Session:
  • Brandon gets roasted for guaranteeing Lane Kiffin would never leave Ole Miss. He admits he trusted “sources” and believed Lane genuinely favored Oxford, but: “Turns out he went somewhere that gave him the biggest offer of money.” — Brandon [76:39]
• Lane Kiffin is Lane Kiffin:
  • Panel agrees that Kiffin is true to his unpredictable, self-interested reputation; college football thrives when wild cards like Kiffin create drama.
  • “When people are shocked by Lane Kiffin, it’s like, well, dude, he’s Lane Kiffin.” — Big Cat [78:56]
• Drama with his Dog & What’s Next for Ole Miss:
  • The myth of “Juice Kiffin” (his dog) — apparently more a mascot than Lane’s personal pet.
  • Hot topic: Should Kiffin have coached the Egg Bowl? Brandon believes Ole Miss knew about the impending departure and let him coach to secure the win, costing them other coaching targets during the delay.
  • Notable Quote: “You cannot turn a ho into a housewife. And when Ole Miss hired Lane Kiffin... six years, they masked it, and they covered it...” — Brandon Walker [82:40]

3. The Playoff Picture and Projections

[92:29–116:16]

• Which Teams Can Win It All?
  • Brandon’s shortlist: “Ohio State can win it all, obviously. Georgia... Notre Dame probably good enough. Alabama is not.” [98:22]
  • Panel doubts Oklahoma’s offense, calls Texas A&M “fraudulent.”
• Championship Games now less meaningful:
  • The expansion has sapped Big Ten and SEC title games of real stakes, which disappoints the guys as traditional fans.
  • “It just sucks that championship Saturday used to be awesome ... Now I don’t care.” — Big Cat [99:53]

4. NFL & Monday Night Football — Patriots vs Giants Recap

[18:36–32:19]

• Patriots Steamroll Giants (and the Giants' Offseason Woes):
  • Big Cat credits Patriots for “making the Giants look like they stink — which is what a good team should do.”
  • PFT and crew debate Younghoe Koo’s wacky missed kick, defending his mental state and the wild snap/hold.
  • Notable quote: “That looked like me in the tee box... I’m gonna defend Younghoe Koo.” — PFT [21:03]
  • Giants QB Jackson Dart’s reckless style called out: “The guy has to learn how to not die...” — Big Cat [23:19]
• Key Stat — Patriots Defense:
  • “They’re the first team in NFL history with 10 straight games where they score 23 points and allow 23 or fewer points in a single season.” — Hank [27:23]

5. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

[37:20–66:50]

• Hot Seat Highlights:
  • Lando Norris (F1): Massive points collapse could lead to Verstappen comeback (“That’s all-time sports pressure.” — Hank [42:22])
  • Juice Kiffin: The fake dog saga as Lane bails on Ole Miss [50:00].
  • Mike Tomlin & Steelers: Might be the end for Tomlin, the team is “just the same football over and over” [63:07]
• Cool Throne Highlights:
  • Dick Vitale & Barkley Calling March Madness: “Disaster, but it'll be funny.” — Hank [47:41]
  • Philly Fans: Max explains the line for appropriate fan/coach interaction: “You can talk as much shit as you want, you know, at the field and the tail in the tailgate online. But it shouldn’t get to the family homes.” — Max [56:38]
  • LeBron’s Streak: “He kept his streak alive of scoring 10 games, which is a totally made up streak that he cares a lot about...” — Big Cat [65:46]

6. Listener FAQs / Rapid-Fire Bits

[129:55–141:12]

• Athlete You’d Die on the Hill For:
  • Tom Wilson (PFT), Ryan Howard (Memes), Chad Pennington (Zach).
• If the Bears & Commanders Played Every Year for the Title:
  • Everyone would take it, even if the loser’s season would always be a disaster [134:13].
• Podcast’s Adopted MLS Team Debate:
  • The crew performs a ridiculous deep-dive to pick an MLS club, landing on Orlando City FC [136:43].
• Miscellaneous:
  • Banter about buffets as life/CFB metaphors, riffing on wordplay (“disqualification” in a Jamaican accent), and various mascot nonsense.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

“It is absurd that we found ourselves in a situation … two group of five teams that get into college football’s championship … and you have teams like Notre Dame that could be left out.”
— PFT Commenter [02:47]

“It’s chaos right now. We knew it was gonna be chaotic and weird for the first couple years of this.”
— Big Cat [05:06]

“Turns out he went somewhere that gave him the biggest offer of money.”
— Brandon Walker on Lane Kiffin [76:39]

“You cannot turn a ho into a housewife. And when Ole Miss hired Lane Kiffin…”
— Brandon Walker quoting Ben Garrett [82:40]

“That looked like me in the tee box... I’m gonna defend Younghoe Koo.”
— PFT [21:03]

“They’re the first team in NFL history with 10 straight games where they score 23 points and allow 23 or fewer points in a single season.”
— Hank [27:23]

“You can talk as much shit as you want … But it shouldn’t get to the family homes.”
— Max Memes [56:38]

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PMT Tone / Running Gags

• Rugged, irreverent, “fan-ish” sarcasm — even when discussing stats/serious topics.
• Meta self-referential bits: Hot Seat/Cool Throne, inside jokes about weight (Brandon Walker), NFL stat clubhouses (“the 300 Club”), F1 sidetracks, hyperbolic “changing the sport forever” takes.
• Unfiltered panel dynamic: Roasting, fake press conferences, "book" callbacks, meme culture, bracketology as buffet lines, and fan shaming.

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Important Timestamps

• [02:33] — CFB rankings open, JMU & playoff system chaos
• [07:28] — Notre Dame/Miami cutoff & ranking politics
• [11:23] — Preseason rankings bias in the committee
• [23:19] — Giants talk & Jackson Dart’s recklessness
• [27:23] — Patriots’ defensive stat milestone
• [42:22] — Hank explains F1 season drama (Lando Norris)
• [50:00] — Juice Kiffin saga & Hot Seat
• [63:07] — Mike Tomlin/Steelers lamentations
• [65:46] — LeBron's scoring streak and stat padding
• [75:15–86:48] — Brandon Walker, Lane Kiffin interview segment
• [98:22] — Brandon names teams that could win it all
• [136:43] — Comedy: the crew picks Orlando City FC as their MLS team

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Summary for New Listeners

With PMT’s signature mix of loud, fan-centric takes and rapid-fire absurdity, this episode leaves no stone unturned in sports. You’ll get college football drama (playoff chaos, Lane's mess), NFL banter, truly unfiltered coaching talk, and plenty of running gags for a full PMT smorgasbord. The episode thrives when it mocks the system (CFP), cherishes football’s weird logic (“don’t boo at the coach’s house”), and lives in the absurd details.

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Part of my take.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, part of my take.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to Part of My take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, December 3rd, and PFT. James Madison University is ranked in the top 25. Congratulations.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you. Thank you. Got a little number next to our name. And listen, I. First of all, I just want to make this clear from, from the start there have been a lot of people that are like pft, you understand that JMU would get boat raced by any of the at large teams. I just want to make it clear that I'm not going to address that. I'm only focused on the opportunity in front of me which is getting into the playoff. It's. It is absurd that we found ourselves in a situation because of the design of the playoff at large that you could have two group of five teams that get in to college football's championship crowning tournament and you have teams like Notre Dame that could be left out. Does that mean that JMU is better than Notre Dame? I have no choice but to say yes. It does mean that because we would be in Notre Dame would be out. But yeah, it's an absurd situation that we found ourselves in. Given what happened with the acc. I think if they had to do it all over again, they would probably make it the 4 top ranked conference championship that would get the automatic bid. I feel like that would probably be a. A more fair way if you're really trying to get the best 12 teams into the mix. But what the committee did today, having unt ranked 24, as I suspected, if UNT beat Tulane, I think that they would obviously be ahead of JMU to make it in. I even thought that if UNT was not ranked, I thought that if they beat that would be enough. They jump jmu. That's not really surprising to me. Whoever wins the American is going to get in jmu. The brotherhood with Duke if Duke wins, I don't see a world where they put Duke in. I think they put JMU at 25 to signal that if JMU beats Troy, handles business in Harrisonburg, that JMU will be ranked above Duke if they win the ACC championship. But uva obviously gets in if they beat Duke. So it's. We got a long ways to go, but it's. It's a lot of chaos. It's just kind of cool to think about a world when JMU could be in the 12 team tournament. I actually. So you know who's been texting me recently? Joey Harrington. Getting the trash talk started, looking ahead to that, that JMU Oregon potential matchup. I think Oregon would be favored by like 18 points. But if we covered. That's my national championship right there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The. So I've seen the take thrown around because obviously people are mad about the two, the pot of James Madison and a North Texas circle Lane being in that we shouldn't let two automatic qualifiers. Yeah, okay, well, then either make it 16, which I think is probably too many because we're going to talk about this with Brandon. But this is. Last year we didn't have enough good teams. This year we have too many good teams. So either make it 16 or if you want to just make a different playoff for everyone who's not in the power four, which would suck, but that's the only solution because you can't, you can't have a sport where it is just impossible for half of the teams to not be in the tournament. You're just saying that it's going to be Big Ten in SEC and that's going to ruin the sport even further. So it's chaos right now. We knew it was going to be chaotic and weird for the first couple of years of this. I think it eventually will get to 16 and then people will stop bitching as much because you're getting closer and closer to where the natural rankings are of a JMU and a two lane. But the big thing that came out tonight was that we thought maybe there was a chance that Notre Dame and Miami, because they did play in August, there would be the committee trying to creep Miami up a little bit more. That did not happen. Notre Dame did drop a spot for Alabama, beating Auburn, but it's essentially set in that the only thing that could keep Notre Dame out is if BYU beats Texas Tech. If BYU beats Texas Tech, then they'll have to let BYU be in and I would assume the Texas Tech wouldn't fall past Notre Dame. Other than that, there can't be a lot of movement left. I guess they could maybe bounce Alabama with three losses if they lose to Georgia, but that would also be very chaotic because Alabama beat Georgia earlier in the year. So you could say, well, they, they, they're one and one against each other, but other than that, like, I, I didn't see a whole lot of stuff. The Ole Miss thing, they didn't, they didn't penalize Ole Miss for losing Lane Kiffin. In fact, they actually went up a spot and Texas A and M went. Fell all the way to seven. So, yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward. What we have coming up on Championship Saturday. The thing that the, the committee does not want to happen is for Texas Tech to lose to BYU and Alabama to lose to Georgia because then they have some hard decisions to make.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I Think if BYU beats Texas Tech, what's going to happen is they're going to put Miami in because they've put Miami and Notre Dame so close.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so who would go out?

[PFT Commenter]

So wait, so if, if BYU loses, then it would.

[Big Cat]

They're out right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, Right. But if BYU loses, then I think they would have Miami and Notre Dame ranked consecutively.

[Big Cat]

Right, but that's still Miami out.

[PFT Commenter]

But no, that's, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that if they're ranked like right next to each other, I think the committee looks at that and they ultimately say, well, Miami and Notre Dame did play and then Miami's in.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. So you're saying Miami would jump Notre Dame with both of them not playing?

[PFT Commenter]

If their name is. It's as simple as this. It's as simple as their names being written directly next to each other, one number apart, and then one team beat the other team. I think that's what the committee would, would do.

[Big Cat]

But they also, they also necessarily. They wouldn't have to do that if, if Bama loses, because then they could just have Notre dame at the 9, Bama at the 10, Miami at the 11.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess they could do that. And what this has really taught us, it's made. It's made dudes do math. We don't know that we're doing math, but we're learning about the transitive property. If, like you grew up learning about the transit property, but you had like a strong identification with one number and you grew up wearing that one number on all your hats and jackets as a kid, and you love that number, and then now you have a reason to fight for that number and explain why that number is actually superior to the others. Yeah, Hank just said three. Good call, Hank.

[Big Cat]

The other thing that happened, I, I think we all knew it was gonna happen, but Texas and Vanderbilt are, they're just out. Like, we can stop, we can stop with that. It, it stinks because, you know, they are both two lost teams. That, and I do understand. The one thing that I will agree with and, and I, I, I think you have to include the, the, the automatic qualifiers because again, you can't just eliminate half of the sport. You can't just be like, half the sport has no chance of getting in. But if you said to me right now, does James Madison, Tulane or North Texas have a chance of winning at all? I'd say no. Does Texas or Vanderbilt? I'd say maybe. I don't know. Like, they played some of These teams, they beat some of these teams and so like Texas beat Oklahoma. Who's very much in. You know, Vandy went and, and who did Vandy beat? They, they didn't beat anyone who's in right now, but they obviously beat some top 25 teams throughout the course of the season. So. Yeah, like they have played those type of games. Yeah. It's all a mess. It's all stupid. It's all not perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

We're deciding the champion of a sport not based on who the best 12 teams are at that sport.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is kind of a up way to do it. But if that's the pool that I'm going to be swimming in, you better believe I'm going to be going for the world record.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like I, I, to me, I'm just deal. I'm playing the hand that I was dealt here. And if you're get, you're saying there's a chance for JMU to get in. I am going to absolutely do everything that I can to all that. But you have to, you have to be realistic about it. And there's no chance that a team that, that plays in the Sunbelt would ever be considered to be one of the top 12 teams in the entire country.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And listen, the, the other thing that, that you have to, that this committee will continue to do that makes no sense. That is like, you know, antithetical to, to sport. And what we watch is that they still do the bias of what your preseason rank was. Because if you just look at Oregon and Ole Miss, Oregon has not beaten the team that's in the playoffs right now. Ole Miss has, they both have one loss.

[Brandon Walker]

One.

[Big Cat]

You know, Ole Miss lost to Georgia. Oregon lost to Indiana. Those are two top four teams. But Oregon, But Ole Miss has a better win. So it's like. But why is Ole Miss behind Oregon? Because Oregon was ranked higher to start the season. That's just how it works.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. In fact, I would like to speak on, on behalf of the Sunbelt Conference and just to the American Conference. I think, I think the winner of those two conferences should play a play in game together.

[Big Cat]

That'd be cool.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd be okay with a playing game more football.

[Big Cat]

That'd be fun. That'd be fun. Okay, so last thing I had before we get to ourselves talking Monday Night Football, I did want to give a shout out to one of the, one of the best tweets. This might actually have to be in the takeies. One of the best tweets of the year. Was from seth Rohrbau on November 30. So what was November 30 was that Sunday. That was Sunday. Sunday night. He said Mike Tomlin will say something like, we can't eat soup with forks. We need spoons. Then the Steelers will sign a 2018 Pro Bowler to the practice squad. The Steelers did sign Adam Thielen today, who is a 2018 Pro Bowler. That might be the tweet of the year. He predicted. He. Mike Tomlin has gotten. And we're going to talk more Steelers in a minute, but Mike Tomlin has gotten to the point where you can just perfectly troll him and predict everything he does. And this came on the day that Aaron Rodgers turned 42. Happy birthday, Aaron Rodgers. I did send him a happy birthday message. He did not respond. Did not expect a response from him. But this is where the Steelers are at.

[Hank]

I think he got a new. He got a new phone, right?

[Big Cat]

He got a new phone. Yeah. Right, right.

[Brandon Walker]

He.

[Big Cat]

This is. The Steelers are in a spot where like, yeah, Adam Thielen. Let's get him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's beyond parody. You're never. You're never really satirizing Mike Tomlin. You're just early.

[Big Cat]

Right, Right. And the Steelers are just become a retirement home for. For players. It's crazy. It's absolutely insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Respect to. To the good people of Pittsburgh for booing Renegade.

[Big Cat]

I'd be.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd be upset, too. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They have every right to. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, one more thing, Max. I had this idea right when we left the office because after we left the office earlier, we taped this a little bit out of order. Kalani Sataki had not signed the extension, not agreed with byu. It looked like it was trending in that direction, but since it's official, he's going back Penn State still looking for a head coach. Max, what do you think about this? What do you think about Penn State taking one for the team for. For the city of Philadelphia and hiring Kevin Patullo?

[Max Memes]

I saw that tweet.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that was someone else. Someone else's idea to just get Tulo.

[Max Memes]

No, that was pf. It was PFC tweeting it. Yeah, I saw him tweet it.

[PFT Commenter]

I was thinking for Max, I was like, this. This could solve a problem for you, Max, because you just. You get rid of the guy that's ruining your season right now, and then, yeah, maybe you just punt on one season for Penn State.

[Big Cat]

Fun fact, Max.

[Max Memes]

I think I would rather. Sorry.

[Big Cat]

Turned down a better deal last week that ended up being true. But he didn't shake on the deal. So he fucked up because I. I tried to make him a deal. Bears get a statement when Eagles fire Kevin Patullo. He wouldn't take that.

[Max Memes]

I don't think the Bears did a.

[Big Cat]

Statement win and they didn't fire Kevin Patulo. So if he had shook on that deal, he would have had that.

[Max Memes]

I don't think you can hire an offensive. A brand new offensive coordinator with like four weeks to go in the season.

[Big Cat]

Why not you just you.

[Max Memes]

When is that ever worked out?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Chip Kelly's out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Why not?

[Max Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Why not? Max, think outside the box. We're solutions, guys, not problems.

[Max Memes]

Guys, Sirion has already said there will be drastic changes this week to the options.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're saying that Chip Kelly coming in the door, you would. You would rather have Kevin Petullo than that?

[Max Memes]

Yes. How the fuck are you supposed to implement an entire new offense in three days?

[Big Cat]

Just tell him to run and get open.

[Max Memes]

You just have to tweak what you're already doing. You can't have a brand new guy in three days unless it's someone already within inside the building.

[Big Cat]

Technically, Kevin Petullo guy, also technically, it's like five days. You play Monday Night Football.

[Max Memes]

Good point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's two extra. What you guys said. Trend. Just get it going. Yeah. First do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Are you saying Jalen hurts is dumb? What they can't learn?

[Max Memes]

I still think every single, every single year of his career.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go then.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[PFT Commenter]

Sorry. Okay, Max, you know what? I was trying to do a good thing for the city of Philadelphia for you.

[Brandon Walker]

Pen.

[Big Cat]

What's wrong, Memes? Memes has his hand up. What's wrong, Memes?

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so in 2012, the Ravens fired their offensive coordinator after starting nine and four. And then they went on.

[Big Cat]

Oh, damn. Wow. When has that ever worked? How about a soupy 13? Yeah.

[Max Memes]

Happened one time in the past 25 years.

[Big Cat]

I mean. All right, one for one soupy.

[PFT Commenter]

You keep having fun with Patulo, then.

[Big Cat]

It'S not one for one Soup. Because offensive coordinators do get fired a lot in the middle of the season.

[PFT Commenter]

They do.

[Max Memes]

So.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the Bears fired Shane Waldron last year and everyone else.

[Max Memes]

Yeah, that's what. But you weren't trying to win it. Like, you weren't going to win it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but look. Yeah, but look where we are now.

[Max Memes]

But you could just fire him in the off season.

[PFT Commenter]

This year.

[Max Memes]

I'm done with getting head starts. I'm done with getting head starts. All right, Nothing.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but then you thought that maybe you wouldn't be the best team on this podcast. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You said you failed on that after week one. You were like, nah, it's not going to happen.

[Hank]

We're 11 and two and it feels great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's all that matters. I mean, they looked. I mean, the Giants stink, but doesn't matter. They made them look like they stink, which is what a good team should do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Drake look good.

[Hank]

Jersey's unreal.

[PFT Commenter]

You love the red Coats.

[Hank]

You're love the Red Coats.

[Big Cat]

And now you have a buy. And then Bills and Ravens are your two biggest games, you know, on the.

[Hank]

Rest of the schedule and there's a chance the Bills could be a T shirt and hat Game for the division.

[PFT Commenter]

Interesting at home.

[Big Cat]

So if the Bills lose this week, it could be a T shirt and hat game. Wow. Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I thought the Patriots looked unbeatable last night. Like a legitimately great team.

[Big Cat]

That punt return was so sick.

[PFT Commenter]

The punt return was incredible. All three phases. Did you see. Do you see variables vest that he was wearing earlier this week? I think he was wearing it, maybe.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The one that said no naps on it. How do you feel about that?

[Hank]

If Rabel says no naps, I'm no naps.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's just true.

[Hank]

Kind of.

[Big Cat]

Again, you have to nap. That's not a nap. Gosh.

[Hank]

I'm a screen guy, though. If Rabel's saying no naps. No naps.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're done napping.

[Hank]

Yeah, I mean, I gotta. I gotta make sure that is the.

[Big Cat]

Correct no nap December.

[Hank]

Maybe. It was like. It could have mean something else. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Means stay woke.

[Hank]

But if it's no naps, it's no naps.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I have no choice.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Vrabel's obviously a great coach. We love Vrabel. He was. Maybe it's like him and Ben Johnson. You guys made great hires when it comes to coaches this offseason.

[Big Cat]

That's very funny shirt. I. I hadn't seen it.

[PFT Commenter]

The no naps. Yeah. And it seemed like one team was excited, ready to play football. The other team, not so much.

[Hank]

Yeah, it was. I mean, he lost to the Giants. It was definitely. I kind of realized that when they were showing all of the Eli Manning stuff, I was like, this is a revenge game for Rabel.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, he hates.

[Hank]

Hates the Giants.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And the Giants. I mean, the Giants. I think the Giants hate the Giants. They. The. The game started. I feel like for the first quarter, the Giants offensive line was fighting more after the whistle than during the game. And because Jackson Dark got blown up. But it was even before that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We had Young Ho.

[Brandon Walker]

Young way coup.

[Big Cat]

With. Still. I don't understand. That looked like me in the tee box. I'm gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna defend Young way coo.

[Hank]

How.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Well, first of all, of course he dug his foot into the ground. His name is not Young Housewife. That's what hoes do. Second of all, his explanation after the game actually made sense. When I watched it like everybody else, I was like, that's the worst kick I've ever seen. Yips. Yeah, like the yips. I thought he had the yips where it's like, you can't come back from that, he's just broken mentally. That's what like Giants kickers have had the weirdest history of physical ailments. Now it's moved its way upstairs into the brain stem. But when I heard his explanation after the game, I watched it again. I. It looked terrible. And it was. His terrible was after the ball was snapped, the holder, Gilliam, he caught it and then the ball started to fall a little bit. And so at the last second, Young way pulled up and that's him pulling up on the kick because he thought it was going to fall down if he was actually trying to kick the football. Even if you hit the ground like that, your foot's going all the way through, you're going to follow through at the end. It's not getting stopped when you hit the ground. Like for example, Hank, if you're hitting a, a lob wedge, right, and you're 20 yards off the green and you hit it really fat, you're not swinging that hard. So it's going to get caught up in the ground and your club's not going to go anywhere.

[Hank]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But if you're actually making an attempt, even if you hit the ground, it's going to bounce off the ground, it's going to go forward. He was trying to pull up on the check swing. It was a check swing and it ended up looking like the biggest disaster of a, a field goal attempt. They asked him about it after the game and he said, yeah, that's actually happened one other time to me. So this is like the second time that he's had this disaster of a kick. But it was, yeah, it was, it was a terrible looking attempt, I'll give him that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm gonna say I, I don't care about his explanation. That was a, that was just the dumbest play ever.

[Hank]

Like, there's no way that's not carrying over. Yeah, there's no way that's not gonna, like, there's no way that's gonna get in his head going forward.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Even if, even if he was like, yeah, I was trying to do that, there's no way that he's not gonna maybe probably have the yips for like at least a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, he wasn't trying to do that. And again, it's a disaster of an attempt. He just thought the ball is more of an insult to his holder being like, I thought he was going to drop it.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then just letting him get blown up on that. But yeah, the Giants when Jackson Dart ran out of bounds and then his, his Team came to his defense. Jackson Dart was inbounds, running, trying to get a first down.

[Big Cat]

The guy has to learn how to not die because he just. Yeah, like that's, that's actually all the Giants should be focused on in the last five weeks of the season because they're not good. Their, their fans are very upset that Joe Shane has not been fired rightfully. So just don't get Jackson Dart hurt because he doesn't know how to keep himself healthy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he, he doesn't. And his explanation was like, yeah, that's how. You ever watch me play football. That's how I play. Well, you don't have to be a.

[Big Cat]

Idiot on a two win team.

[PFT Commenter]

On a two win team, like, yeah, and he was going for the first down, he was inbounds and he got lit up. I, if I was a defensive player in the NFL and I see the Giants on my schedule, I'm like, I'm gonna get to finally get. I'm gonna get to crush a quarterback this week.

[Hank]

And he's not Mahomes. Like Mahomes probably gets that call.

[Big Cat]

And he also gets out of bounds. The thing where he gets out of bounds. Yeah, that was the last second.

[PFT Commenter]

That was not a penalty at all.

[Hank]

No, I know, but I'm saying like it was so violent that like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, you're right. I guess it just, just pure what just happened.

[Hank]

But it's Jackson Dart. Like, that's where it's like he's not playing high school football.

[Big Cat]

He just can't. Like you can't get injured. You have to have a full off season. You're. I think Jackson Dart is a good quarterback. Like I think he did. That's the one saving grace for these Giants team in another terrible season is like, you think you have a guy, you have to keep him healthy. Also you had Abdul Carter. He now has more soft benchings than he does sacks on the season. So he didn't play the first two series. That's the second time this year that he has been benched to start a game. He has one and a half sacks. Mike Kafka afterwards just said he just didn't give an explanation. Yeah, he just kept on saying, I talked to him. I talked to him. They're like, did, did he miss a meeting? I know there was a fake report going around that was very funny. That he unplugged his headphones in a meeting and porn was playing. That was not real, but also very well done.

[PFT Commenter]

Apparently has something to do with tardiness.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's Just late.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got a late problem. I don't know if he was in the, the training room again. And that was another miscommunication. If that was just a thing that they said the first time. But I, I also feel like it's a bad sign if you're. Your interim head coach is becoming a disciplinarian. Yeah, that's not, that's not great vibes for the team. Hank. I have a stat, not an insult stat, a real stat that you'll. You'll enjoy about. Do you have any bookmarks, Patriots?

[Hank]

I have some bookmarks. I mean.

[Big Cat]

300 yards.

[Hank]

Drake made it out of 300 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

It's funny that it's becoming a story that people are asking Drake May about it now. Listen, I'm, I'm just trying to find something to nitpick about. Drake May in his amazing season. Who gives a fuck if you throw us for 300 yards? He's throwing for like 280 every week.

[Brandon Walker]

You got it.

[Max Memes]

No, you can't.

[Big Cat]

You got it. You don't, don't, don't give up.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, no. Max, Max. Let me finish.

[Big Cat]

Stay strong.

[PFT Commenter]

Let me finish.

[Max Memes]

You got to keep saying he sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'll be God damned if I'm going to stop talking.

[Big Cat]

There we go.

[PFT Commenter]

There's. There's an elite club and all the players know about it. The 300 Club.

[Big Cat]

The 300 Yard Club.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. There's a giant mural that they have in, in park avenue in the NFL headquarters and it's. It's the movie poster from 300 with all the players that have gotten 300 with their shirts off with six pack abs. And Drake May is not on it. And it's kind of interesting that he's not on it.

[Hank]

It's because you're leading the game so much. What happens when you're going in the fourth quarter and you're up 20?

[PFT Commenter]

They were still passing in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they were.

[Big Cat]

They were trying to get him. 300. Yeah, they were trying to get him.

[PFT Commenter]

It's honestly, it's in Josh McDaniel's head. Yeah, he's like, I got to get this guy.

[Hank]

300 not.

[Big Cat]

What's your stat?

[Hank]

Let's hear the stats.

[Big Cat]

Definitely thought about at least once.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, once.

[Hank]

Why would you think about it? Your team's 11 and 2. Your quarterbacks.

[Max Memes]

He may not. It may not affect his play calling, but he's definitely thought about.

[PFT Commenter]

He's getting asked about it.

[Big Cat]

Someone has said something.

[Hank]

100.

[Big Cat]

He might listen to this podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

After the game, she said, you haven't thrown for 300 yards yet. What's up with that? Like, he knows. They talked about it on PFD.

[Big Cat]

Hank Troll.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not in the 300 Club. Mookie Betts is in the 300 Club. It's true.

[Big Cat]

That's true. That guy on 9 11.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Osama.

[Big Cat]

The other guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The guy in the bowling alley.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But no, a real good stat for the Patriots. They're the first team in NFL history with 10 straight games where they score 23 points and allowing 23 or fewer points in a single season.

[Big Cat]

They're dominating.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty impressive. Now, if. Could Drake made be this good if his defense wasn't so great? We don't know the answer to that question.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's a team game, but it's.

[PFT Commenter]

A question that you have to ask.

[Big Cat]

Sure, I guess. Yeah. He had to ask it.

[Hank]

I think he would be better statistically. He'd be better if his defense was worse and he had the ball more and was playing from behind. He would have better stats.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not necessarily because they're still throwing the ball in the fourth quarter.

[Big Cat]

And he also might feel more pressure, like, oh, I gotta. I gotta score on every possession.

[Max Memes]

Also, what team was he on last year?

[PFT Commenter]

Great question, Max.

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Checkmate.

[Big Cat]

Got him.

[PFT Commenter]

So. Really? I mean.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I guess he's just asking the question.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty good game. Fair question from Drake.

[Big Cat]

What are your bookmarks? I don't.

[Hank]

Listen, I wasn't. I, I didn't.

[Big Cat]

You said we sat down before we started recording. How do you get to your bookmarks? Oh, Hank's been bookmarking.

[Hank]

No, I was just.

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Hank]

I don't bookmark. I. I bookmarked a couple things, but it's not. I was not planning on bringing him up unless it was. It got ugly, and it has not got ugly. That was a good.

[Brandon Walker]

Exactly.

[Hank]

That was a good stat.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to get ugly?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get ugly with me.

[Hank]

No, I, I, I'm. I respond. I. I'm not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, get ugly with him.

[Hank]

I fight back.

[Big Cat]

Go with your all. All love.

[Hank]

All positive vibes.

[Big Cat]

No naps.

[Hank]

Good vibes.

[Big Cat]

All love.

[Hank]

Hey, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, they're calling him. Well, there's two things about his nickname. He's got two nicknames. One, the schedule. I prefer that one. The second, Drake. Drake. May. May. They stole that from me. Okay.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

That was my day. That was my nickname for John Beck when he was the quarterback of the Washington Redskins.

[Hank]

Who the is Johnson in 1942, he's John.

[PFT Commenter]

John Beck. Beck.

[Hank]

Were you, like, writing this in, like, your school notebook?

[PFT Commenter]

No, this was. This was John Beck, baby. John.

[Hank]

Who is John Beck?

[Big Cat]

Beck was a quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

He was in. He was like. He was like. I think Kyle Shanahan might have stood on early 2000.

[Max Memes]

I think the worst part about John Beck is I searched his name and another guy popped a different gu.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, that's great. I mean, that is John Beck.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

You're right to forget John Beck. I only remember him because you have.

[Max Memes]

To search John Beck football to get to John.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But you get to him because I.

[PFT Commenter]

Would call him John. John Beck. Beck.

[Big Cat]

So they call him Drake.

[Hank]

Drake May.

[PFT Commenter]

They call him Drake. Drake May. May.

[Hank]

Shout out, Drake May. Love her.

[Max Memes]

He played nine career games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Hank]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. He was. He was great.

[Big Cat]

I don't understand the Drake. Drake.

[Hank]

There's. I mean, guy's a legend because he.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn'T have any other nicknames.

[Hank]

Instagram account, Drake May lover. And he just. He's everywhere. He comments everywhere on all types of, like, you know, pop culture, whatever, posts. And he just writes Drake May.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds like a bot.

[Hank]

It's not a bot.

[Big Cat]

It's a good guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it you?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

What are your bookmarks, guys?

[Hank]

Dedicated Reveal your book. I only had one bookmark. It was just a Drake Mace Stat. Again, it was. It was only if things got ugly. I was not planning on bringing this up. Each of his last 10 starts, Drake May has passed for 200 plus yards, rushed for positive yardage, thrown no more than one interception, averaged 8 yards per pass attempt to win the game. No quarterback in NFL history has done that in more than five consecutive starts. He's done it.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty damn good.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty damn rush for positive yardage.

[Big Cat]

That deep ball was nasty every game. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, listen, Drake May, he's having an awesome season. He's so accurate on his deep balls, too. It's kind of crazy.

[Hank]

Great pocket presence, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Hank]

Steps up, rushes when he needs to, hits his. Hits his targets. It's. It's just beautiful to see.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know that when he has a child, he's going to name it Fox after Foxborough, Massachusetts.

[Big Cat]

He said that?

[PFT Commenter]

He did. According to my preferred breaking news source, which is New England Gridiron Pulse US Fox May. It's a. It's a Facebook account that's run by somebody in Vietnam that just makes up stories.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How many dudes do you think in the last, like, months since they started revealing that you can look at locations for Twitter. How many dudes realize that they've just been jerking off to pictures of. Of accounts run by Indian dudes?

[PFT Commenter]

A lot, probably. Yeah. I'm gonna check those bookmarks out.

[Big Cat]

Oh, shit.

[PFT Commenter]

This is actually my second favorite post by them recently. They. They just claimed that Justin Jefferson has expressed a desire to be traded to the Patriots. I need a playing environment that truly demands and respects those who crave victory. Therefore, I only want to play for the Patriots. Justin Jefferson said that? According to this Vietnamese New England Patriots Facebook page.

[Brandon Walker]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

It's a great Facebook page. Okay, should we do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, or. I. I have a question for you, Max. Who the hell is Penn State going to hire as their head coach?

[Max Memes]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I. I hate.

[Max Memes]

I hate our co worker, Blutman.

[Brandon Walker]

Why?

[Max Memes]

He's told me. He's told me 99.9 chance of one thing, like three times.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, he can't do that. He's getting in the breaking news day. I. I saw last night that Kalani Sataki had a handshake agreement with Penn State. And then the crumble cookie guy came in.

[PFT Commenter]

He is. He said that he had to insert himself into this. He's like, we can't lose great people.

[Big Cat]

This is why I love. I love. I love this sport. I love America. We have, you know, competing on one hand. You had Ole Miss lose their coach because our guy, Todd Graves, chicken finger mogul, got, you know, probably wrote a big check. And now you have at byu, the crumble cookie guy. So, like, here's my. That's my music. I got to get in here.

[PFT Commenter]

This is what he said. Some people are not replaceable. Sounds like it is time for me to get off the sidelines and get to work.

[Big Cat]

It's great. Like, this is exactly what college football should be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So when it comes to the Penn State coaching search, I do have. I've got an update on their jet. Their jet had a flight that was scheduled to Columbus, Ohio, from college. From State College. Brian Hartline. That flight got changed. It got diverted because too many people were talking about it. Now they've got a flight to Lexington, Kentucky. Oh, Mark Stoops.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

To Penn State.

[Big Cat]

Her tire of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

Mark Stoops. Depends. That's not going to happen. However, I did some more digging. You know who else lives in Lexington is Brian Hartline's brother, who's on that coaching staff.

[Big Cat]

So they're going to get.

[Max Memes]

So Brian Hartline's brother to Penn State.

[PFT Commenter]

Brian Hartline's brother might be getting picked up as a stop by that jet.

[Max Memes]

So they would. Both of them to Penn State.

[PFT Commenter]

Both of them to Penn State. I'm saying heartline, maybe not out of it.

[Max Memes]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Sataki is a great coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Memes]

I don't know anything about nothing. But I, I would like them to have some coach also. Has anyone ever extended.

[Big Cat]

I would like them to have some coach.

[Max Memes]

Have they ever extended the interim?

[Brandon Walker]

All time.

[Max Memes]

So we just do one more year of interim.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's how Coach O became the coach at lsu.

[PFT Commenter]

Sharon Moore.

[Big Cat]

That's how Pete Golding is the coach at Ole Miss. I mean, I guess he was kind of made permanent right away, but yeah, that can absolutely happen. You can play your way into it.

[Max Memes]

There's no. I'm saying like, but keep, I want him to keep the interim.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you want to keep an interim for the entire year?

[Max Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I don't think that's ever happened, but I like that. Yeah, I do like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you expecting the next, like next year's coaching availability is going to be better than this season's?

[Max Memes]

It can't, it can't be worse. Everyone, every coach, every school at an opening this year.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It is true.

[Big Cat]

A lot of very good openings.

[PFT Commenter]

James Madison.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Bob Chessing. Going to ucla.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for him. Yeah, good for him. I, he got, he got paid like 8 million and now it's. The sales pitch is pretty clear for JMU. It's like, do you want to work for two years?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then 10x your salary and get future earnings and get one of the highest paying jobs in the entire country. That's a pretty good, pretty good sales pitch. The guy that I, I mean, I would like our, our offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator if they don't go to ucla. But the guy from Navy. Chronic. I want Chronic.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

In Harrisonburg. He. I know that he, he played receiver there a while ago. I don't know if he's interested in leaving Navy, but I'm just sure that there's. It's an attractive opening.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It sucks being, but I live in reality and I want to be the best stepping stone there is.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Let's do hot seat. Cool Throne. It is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. It's officially holiday season. Whether you're stocking up for holiday parties, hitting the hometown bars, or need a last minute gift for that one ant you haven't seen since last Christmas, Twisted Tea is the way to go. Yeah. It's refreshing. Made with real brewed iced tea. And a 5% kick that keeps you going all day long. Plus, with no carbonation, you can drink it all and still have room to go for seconds. That's a big key. Listen, we like to eat this time of year. No, carbonation is huge. Trust me when I say it's the go to for whatever you've got planned over the next couple of weeks. Hitting the mountains. A prey. How do you say a pre.

[PFT Commenter]

A prey ski.

[Big Cat]

A prey ski rhymes with T for a reason. Oh, that was stupid of me. I should have just read further on in the session.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. Did you know how to pronounce the word ski?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Brandon Walker]

I did.

[Big Cat]

No, it's a prey.

[PFT Commenter]

Rhymes with a prey. Ski. Rhymes with T. Yeah, prey.

[Hank]

Ski.

[Big Cat]

Rhymes with t. Yeah, yeah. Ski rhymes with tea. I got it. Trying to stay warm at a late season tailgate. As you can tell, I'm not a big skier year. It's also, I've never appraised ski.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the morning and we live on a no naps policy.

[Big Cat]

That is true. I did wake up Barcelona this morning. Keep the teas cold so you aren't. So make sure to look for those yellow cans wherever you buy beer and give yourself the gift of twisted tea this season. I love the original and the peach. If he likes a half and half. Twisted tea is the best. Hank, your hot seat, cool throne.

[Hank]

My hot seat is Lando Norris.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Wow. Do you remember F1?

[Hank]

F1. Yeah. Do you guys remember?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you remember F1?

[Hank]

I stopped watching probably two years ago. I was, you know, I was. I was locked in the first three seasons of the Drive to Survive. And then at one point, I was following the season kind of week by week. I just. Watching the races never really did it for me. But, you know, I still got. I still. I still follow some accounts and this, this season, it's. It's been down to the wire.

[PFT Commenter]

Once Danny Ricardo got out. Yeah, I lost interest.

[Hank]

This is. This is an all time, all time season.

[Big Cat]

I lost interest after I finished the first. Yeah, the first iteration of whatever was drive to survive.

[Hank]

First two or three seasons were good. It's just watching the races at racing, car racing is just never, never kind of like soccer. It's just never clicked for me.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I suspect that the same people that pushed F1 on America are the same. It is massive.

[Hank]

Like, every. Every Instagram post is like millions and millions. It's like. It's like soccer where it's like, you know, globally massive.

[PFT Commenter]

It's international. But I. I feel like it Was pushed on us by people that ran a bunch of media companies that saw F1 being like the next big thing. It's like. Well, I. I bowed out after about a week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I actually enjoyed doing. I enjoyed doing the interview.

[PFT Commenter]

The interviews are fun. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Interviewing race car drivers is kind of fun. You know, when we do an entire year of podcasts, like doing a couple is fun, but I just. I couldn't watch.

[Hank]

This is just a good sports story.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, give it to us. Lando Norris, by the way, can I interrupt you for. What's the. What's the Denny Hamlin thing? Why are they in court?

[Hank]

Couldn't tell you, Zach.

[Big Cat]

Search it right now. Find. I saw Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin are in court against each other.

[Max Memes]

No, they're on their friends. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I don't know why they're in court. I need someone to explain that to me. Go ahead, Hank.

[Hank]

Lando Norris had a massive, massive lead. He was up 100 points at one point this season. Verstappen was basically. He was like the Chiefs. He was. He was more or less eliminated. He's had an all time comeback. Finished first this week. Landon Norris had a chance to like, if you finished ahead of Verstappen, he would have clinched the title with one race to go. Finished third. Versatile. Finished first, has made a crazy comeback. He's 12 points back with one race to go, which basically is. Is and all, you know.

[Max Memes]

A1.

[Hank]

A1.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I might watch.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When is this?

[Hank]

Probably Sunday morning, I think.

[Big Cat]

Where.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Push, Push.

[Big Cat]

Abu Dhabi, I think it was, it.

[Hank]

Was just in Abu Dhabi, so it's.

[Big Cat]

Got to be somewhere also out there.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm, I'm in. It's, it's, it's the old.

[Hank]

It's literally like, you know, the, the one person you don't want behind you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Abu Dhabi.

[Hank]

Oh, it is.

[Big Cat]

I'm. I'm a racehead. Yeah. The part of the reason why I stopped watching is that every single race was just for stapping one.

[Hank]

And he dominated seasons where it's like he won wire to wire.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Right.

[Hank]

This season he had a worse car. Which, that part I never understand. It's like he McLaren has the best car. He does not have a good car. He had a really, really bad start to the year. And. And he basically was in a spot where he has to, like, win out and he somehow has and has a chance to finish it off this Sunday.

[Max Memes]

Why did he start driving a worse car?

[Big Cat]

Because they do.

[Hank]

It's regulations.

[Big Cat]

From what I understand is every three, like, three years, they let you basically reconfigure your car and whoever, like, nails it, they have that car for a while. So, like, you get, like, one shot. Is that right? Memes. You get, like, one chance to. To perfect your car. And if it's perfect, you can't make, like, in season, drastic changes to your car. I think so. And then they also makes, like, certain things illegal can't do on certain cars.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that affected.

[Brandon Walker]

Was it McLaren.

[Big Cat]

And they do, like, all the time. They do all the testing. But then you could get into the season and be like, we're. We have like, a quarterback and wide receiver that just hate each other and, like, we can't complete a pass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was explained to us by the coach. Yeah, he got fired.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He was just fighting the regulations there was. They're always trying to get an edge.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So wait, what has to happen in. In Abu Dhabi for the crazy result?

[Big Cat]

Probably Verstappen has to finish first and Lando Norris has to finish outside the points, I believe. I don't know the points. Well, I think we're working our way through this.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't. Can't Max Verstappen's teammates just, like, Fuck up Lando Norris 1. Can he just be like, I'm not. You shall not pass Lando.

[Hank]

He could.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I would do.

[Hank]

He could.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so no, he could finish first and Lando has to finish third or higher.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Wow.

[Max Memes]

So if Lando finishes second, though, he's fine. Yeah, then he's fine.

[Big Cat]

If he finishes third, he's fine.

[Max Memes]

Oh, third or higher.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah, he could third.

[Max Memes]

I thought he meant, like.

[Big Cat]

No, no, he's down 12 points and the. And he can't. He can't. Yeah. So he finishes third. He's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be very funny if.

[Hank]

That's all. That's all time. Sports pressure.

[Big Cat]

That's great. Sports pressure, Hank. I like this. I'm going to not tune in, but I'm going to.

[Hank]

You're going to follow the result.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to.

[Hank]

You're going to check on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Someone tweet me on Sunday morning and remind me that it's happening, and then I might turn on the TV for a second.

[PFT Commenter]

If there was like, a red zone for racing where it's just like, the last lap. Let me know when the last lap is happening. I'll tune in at the end. But yeah, it seems like. Can you imagine if F1 had a, like, college football playoff Style committee that after the season, season was over, they just like arbitrarily said what, what cars were the fastest and who got to advance.

[Hank]

I mean, you talk about boot, they got like Russian oligarchs. They got. They got boosters on steroids.

[Big Cat]

Awesome. Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

People would be dying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Zach, have you.

[Brandon Walker]

What do you say?

[Max Memes]

Max Memes has such a clip brain. He found the clip of the coach talking about this.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, let's see.

[Big Cat]

Memes. So this is on part of my take this part of my Take playing. Pardon My Take. This is an exclusive report from Pardon My take on an interview we've done that we none of us could remember.

[Max Memes]

Except for Memes because he has absolute clip brain.

[Big Cat]

I love this when we break news to ourselves that we already broke news.

[PFT Commenter]

Which coach was this?

[Big Cat]

This was the Red Bull guy. Christian Horner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Married to Spice Girl.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry Hallwell.

[Big Cat]

Yes. He got fired. Oh, I look fat. Oh, shirts.

[PFT Commenter]

That was the tits interview.

[Big Cat]

Those shirts are not good for me. I found that out after a couple interviews.

[Brandon Walker]

Cannons.

[Big Cat]

I was just stuffed into that shirt.

[Hank]

Probably not great chairs either.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Point.

[Big Cat]

During the building of the car, you're like, this is. We have something that no one else is going to have going forward.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, that's the thing. You just don't know really. And you know, last year was a big reset. New regulations. We turn up at the first test, everybody's car looks a bit different and the Mercedes look very different. You think, have we missed something dramatic here? And then, of course, 22 was an.

[PFT Commenter]

Incredible year for us.

[Brandon Walker]

And then we've just taken all those.

[PFT Commenter]

Learnings and applied it into the, into this car. And the car was a little bit heavy.

[Brandon Walker]

Last year we got the car on the weight limit and that kind of stuff and just evolved the theme. And we've been surprised that the others.

[PFT Commenter]

Haven'T been closer to us so far.

[Max Memes]

But you know, feel that that will.

[Big Cat]

Come later in the like. Okay, so. Yeah, by the way, I remember they.

[Hank]

Rolled out the wild.

[Big Cat]

I remember that interview because it's similar to the Harbaugh. That was right before my daughter was born. So sympathy. Wait, I get a pass.

[PFT Commenter]

That was in a.

[Big Cat]

The Harbaugh interview when my son was born. My first all time bad. Remember when we were at the. The.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, just the weight part.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. When you, you get sympathy.

[Hank]

You weren't pregnant.

[Big Cat]

No, I know, but you get sympathy weight because you just like everyone kind of just gets weight. That's how it works. Sympathy weight.

[Hank]

How much weight? How much like per pregnancy?

[PFT Commenter]

20, 30 you ever heard the term dad bod?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You get started eating, that's what it means. Everyone in the house is eaten.

[Hank]

You're eating for two.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I was eating for. For three. The whole family had to make sure I was strong. But yet, no, there's. I mean, there's. There's heavy fluctuation. Okay, so where. Where are we at?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't deny him. I got to be honest. Don't. Don't really care who wins the F1 race unless something crazy happens, in which case I'll. I'll think about it for, like, 30 seconds.

[Big Cat]

I'll be like, damn, that was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

Do you want. You know, do you want the. The guy that's dominated and already won, like, five times to win again?

[Brandon Walker]

I want Lando.

[Hank]

Or do you want Lando to.

[Big Cat]

You know, I didn't like versatile.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, could you ever see yourself rooting for a franchise that just dominated and won? All the time. And then when there was an upstart, plucky team that was going against them, you. You would find yourself rooting against the underdog.

[Max Memes]

It.

[Hank]

It's case by case because I don't like it when they go wire to wire, but I do like a story where it's like, you know, everyone counted him out, and he's come all the way back. Like, that's.

[Big Cat]

It's great sports.

[Hank]

That's big dog shit.

[Big Cat]

Great sports. Zach, why is Denny Hamlin in court? Denny Hamlin and Michael Jordan have a stock car racing team together, 23 XI. They're in court over antitrust laws. I've been trying to figure out what an antitrust law is. It's not going the best, but what I can tell you is I think what I have come. The small conclusion I've come to is like, it's about, like NASCAR's making too much of the money. I think it's, like, not the way they got it set up. Is like, they're paying way too much up top. Yeah, they own the tracks they own. They won't let you do other races. They're limiting the cars to, like, one size fits all. They just want more money.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like, you guys are getting way too paid. We're paying out way too much.

[PFT Commenter]

Spider explained this to me a couple months ago, and it has a lot to do with NASCAR owning the tracks that all the NASCAR events are at. So they're saying it's. It's Monopoly. There's no room for competition if you're a track out There. You can't get into the. You can't break that glass ceiling to.

[Max Memes]

Be a big boy.

[Big Cat]

You say they're doing it for like the smaller race teams to like, hopefully turn a profit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You know what?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'm on Denny Hamlin's side.

[Big Cat]

I'm all in. I am, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's MJ and Denny Hamlin. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. I don't know any of the facts. I'm just going to blindly say he should win in court.

[Big Cat]

Apparently he was tearing up in court. Yeah. You know, getting real emotional about the family and everything. Yeah. Talking about his dad. That's what I saw. That's what I saw this morning.

[PFT Commenter]

Very powerful.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You're cool, Tone.

[Hank]

My cool throne. Us. I guess the. The viewers. The listeners maybe probably be a disaster, but it'll be funny. Dicky V And Charles Barkley are calling a first four NCAA tournament.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it.

[Hank]

And a regular season game for espn.

[Big Cat]

Wait, who's the play by play?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

That's the hardest job. It's got to be. What's his name, Pash, who used to do Bill Walton.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's used to getting weird with like, you can't.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's just an insane. I'm so excited.

[PFT Commenter]

You need the straightest man to be. To be the play by play guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Jake Marsh. Let's see.

[Hank]

O'. Brien.

[Big Cat]

Okay. He's. I think he's good. He's like a. No offense to. I think he's just sounds like a. Yeah. Syracuse play by play guy. Play guy.

[PFT Commenter]

This is great. This is a perfect way to get everybody to watch the first four. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's David. Brian. Did you go to Syracuse? Tell me who went to Syracuse. Show us. Syracuse. Syracuse.

[Brandon Walker]

There.

[Hank]

They're also doing Kentucky, Indiana, December 13th.

[Big Cat]

Oh. So they're gonna get a little warm up.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Warm up.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max Memes]

Hank, you don't know this guy.

[Big Cat]

Is.

[Max Memes]

He does the Red Sox.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Max Memes]

He is the lead play by play announcer for the New England Sports Network.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks. Locked in.

[Max Memes]

Not. Not a regular season Red Sox guy.

[Big Cat]

That'S staring at this.

[Hank]

When did he start with Nessen.

[Max Memes]

Like you're gonna question. Bye, boss.

[PFT Commenter]

When did he start? He's probably pretty nervous. He probably just started. Scroll down. Let's see when he started.

[Hank]

No, he's. I. I know him now.

[Big Cat]

Come on.

[Max Memes]

Don't worry. It's just 2007.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, 2015 was when he started doing the. I'm looking right now. 2015. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what for?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, you. That's for a guy like that. No, 2016. That was when he moved to New York.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For a guy like that, it's almost. He's almost like an umpire. It's almost better when you don't know their name sometimes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he is like, sir. I said Syracuse. They're all the same. Yeah. Superficial replacement. Okay. What? Oh, see? Yeah, it's the shirt and the sympathy weight. What is that?

[Max Memes]

Memes found the. I look like Memes found the Harbaugh.

[Big Cat]

I look like a late stage razor Ramon with that hair, too. What is going on?

[Max Memes]

This looks like when we had to pick each other's outfits for Grit Week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, I picked that myself.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta be honest.

[Hank]

Well, that was at a golf tournament.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta be honest with Big Kid. I've worn that exact same outfit probably like 50 times.

[Big Cat]

I remember those shirts. I thought they looked good. And in hindsight, they were just like sausage cases.

[PFT Commenter]

That is straight out of my closet. Okay. It looks good.

[Max Memes]

This is like the same shirt.

[Big Cat]

I know. It's the same brand. I, I listen, I. There's a reason why I wear black T shirts now all the time.

[Hank]

Bfc.

[Big Cat]

Your hot seat.

[PFT Commenter]

Cool throw. My hot seat is Juice Kiffin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Lane Kiffin's dog, apparently. And this according to the Internet, Lane did not bring Juice Kiffin, his dog, with him to lsu. And the reason for that is Juice Kiffin might not have ever been Lane Kiffin's dog to begin with.

[Max Memes]

Dang.

[PFT Commenter]

It might have been a fake dog situation that they had that he. He was an unofficial mascot of the university and he belonged to a local kennel, but they put Kiffin's last name on the dog, and he acted like it was his dog and it was never his dog to begin with. It's kind of crazy. That is crazy.

[Big Cat]

But they get Juice Kiffin in the breakup.

[PFT Commenter]

They do get Juice Kiffin, but it. Is Juice Kiffin gonna change his last name? Is he gonna be Juice golden now?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He'll get yelled at.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he shows up. Kiffin shows up.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to pick sides. I mean, the way Herb street defended Lane Kiffin has me wondering about Peter and if his dogs actually belong to him or. Yeah, they're property of espn. Oh, how deep does this go?

[Big Cat]

How deep does this go?

[PFT Commenter]

This mess. But, yeah, I. I love. I love all the messiness behind the breakups. The jilted fans being like, that wasn't even your dog, dude. So, yeah, I. It would have been funny. If Lane Kiffin had just taken Juice with him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just been like, yeah, that's my dog.

[Big Cat]

I'm taking him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Does the dog, like, does the dog come with a job? Is that one of the perks?

[Big Cat]

I think it has to. Yeah. The next, the next coach of Ole Miss, Pete Golding should get. It should be Juice Golden.

[PFT Commenter]

Juice Golding. I, I actually do believe that Mike the Tiger belonged to coach. Oh. Though when he was there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's a Louisiana law.

[Big Cat]

Also, Coach O might be back, which is going to be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

He looks good.

[Big Cat]

Well, it just. Lane's going to hire him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which I don't know if they. I was wondering this. Coach O has one more payment from LSU, I think December 15th. If Lane hires him, let's say tomorrow. Is there offset language that LSU has.

[PFT Commenter]

To pay him half a month? No.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't have to pay the, the rest of the buyout. Cause he got a job at LSU.

[PFT Commenter]

Possibly. I could see Coacho going back to LSU.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

No. 100%.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm, I'm, I'm saying he almost like he definitely is going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that like actually confirmed?

[Big Cat]

No, but the way that Lane Kiffin was talking, I mean, Lane Kiffin was smart. In his press conference, instead of doing the Brian Kelly and trying to put on a Southern accent, he just invoked Coach. Oh. He's like I called, oh. And then he did the Southern accent copying.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, I, I think there's a high chance that he gets. He puts Coach O on his staff.

[PFT Commenter]

They can, they can make anything work in Louisiana. They don't give a fuck. The, the governor, Louisiana.

[Big Cat]

Also Scott Woodward, the guy who fired Coacho is gone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's gone.

[Big Cat]

So why not.

[PFT Commenter]

And gone unceremoniously.

[Big Cat]

And why wouldn't you want Coacho on the LSU staff?

[PFT Commenter]

You want him back? Just.

[Big Cat]

It's, it's also like a great. If you're an LSU fan, you want it. Because if Lane Kiffin decides to leave you, you have your interim.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think Lane Kiffin would ever leave.

[Brandon Walker]

Nah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the one destination for him. I, I think that there's been a lot of reporting over the last couple weeks that was dismissed as fake news that now I'm going back at and looking at and believing all of it. There was a report that the governor of Louisiana like two weeks ago had a two hour long meeting with Lane Kiffin and then that. That report was denied. I believe. I think the governor actually sealed the deal for Lane I think that that's how deep the. The LSU ties go in Louisiana, where the governor was actually leading the entire coaching search.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And also, did you see there's. There was a report that part of the reason why he picked LSU was he had a meeting with the AD of Florida. And apparently the Florida AD gave Lane Kiffin weird vibes, which is very funny because Lane Kiffin, like, again, I. I like him. I think he's great for the sport. He's been on the show a couple times. Lane Kiffin also does do weird vibes. So they just did weird vibes off.

[PFT Commenter]

They. You know what? They just didn't vibe. Yeah, they just didn't vibe. And then there's another report that Lane Kiffin now is going to get postseason bonuses.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

For how Ole Miss does.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the playoffs. So because he. He left before the end of the season, he had bonuses in his contract. I think it was like 250 grand if they made the playoff.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Up to. I Forget, was it 2 million if they won?

[Big Cat]

He's basically getting a bonus bet on LSU Moneyline or Ole Miss? Moneyline.

[PFT Commenter]

Ole Miss Moneyline. Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin might even hit up some of the coaches at Ole Miss and just, like, give them some ideas for how to win the game. He's like, listen, man, I'm tied into this, too. Please win for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He also looks tanner.

[Big Cat]

He looks way tanner.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like there was maybe a tanning bed on that jet that he took down to Baton Rouge.

[Big Cat]

He looks skinny.

[PFT Commenter]

He does.

[Big Cat]

He did. The. The other thing that's happening is the story about how Lane Kiffin got his start in coaching has gone re viral. Do you. Do you remember that story?

[Brandon Walker]

The.

[Big Cat]

David Carr. So Lane Kiffin was a backup at Fresno, and David Carr was a starter. And Lane Kiffin came out for practice one day and he didn't have anything, like, on. Like, he had. He had, like, shorts on and he wasn't ready to practice. And the coach was like, what are you doing? He's like, well, you're not going to give me any snaps, so I'm not going to be like, dressed to practice. And he kicked him off the field. And then when he went back into the locker room, the coach called Monty Kiffin. And Monty Kiffin, Lane's dad was like, you're not quitting. And Lane was like, fine, I guess I'll just coach and just put on a polo and came back out on practice. And that was it. That was the start of his coaching career.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, Monty Kiffin's like, you're not quitting the team. He's like, well, I guess I'll just coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Boom.

[PFT Commenter]

Good way to start.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

My cool throne is Philly fans. Max accountability on the cool throne. Philly fans obviously not happy with the performance of Kevin Petullo.

[Max Memes]

Disavow. Disavow.

[PFT Commenter]

They egged his house. They egg Kevin Patullo's house to show their displeasure. I mean, at least it's not batteries, right?

[Max Memes]

Nah, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. I don't like when it. When you can talk as much shit as you want, you know, at the field and the tail in the tailgate online. But it shouldn't get to the family homes. Can't get to the family home.

[PFT Commenter]

Not to the family home. Do you have any. Any suspects?

[Max Memes]

Probably the guys I was sitting at in my section.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, got any names?

[Max Memes]

I got no names.

[Big Cat]

Listen, Diana Rossini said this morning on Wake Up Barcelona that Philly has very smart football fans.

[Max Memes]

Named me personally. Personally named me personally.

[Big Cat]

And that's why you boo.

[Max Memes]

Because we know.

[Big Cat]

You know.

[Max Memes]

Yeah, we know you know.

[PFT Commenter]

It should stop at the booze, though.

[Big Cat]

No eggs.

[Max Memes]

It should stop at the. It can stay on the sports talk radio. It can stay at the stadium. It can stay on Twitter. You can't. Can't go. Can't go to the home.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't.

[Big Cat]

What about booing if you see him on the street?

[Max Memes]

Depends. Like, walking in the neighborhood. Walking in the neighborhood? No, but, like, walking to the stadium. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

Walking to the stadium On. On Eagles property.

[Max Memes]

Yeah, on Eagle's property. So, okay, if he.

[PFT Commenter]

If he's wearing Eagles gear.

[Max Memes]

I'm still gonna say no. Like, you can't.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

What about appropriate family?

[Max Memes]

Family. Family, yeah. Family's off limit.

[PFT Commenter]

What if he's walking into the stadium and he's got his kids with him?

[Max Memes]

Don't bring your kids to the state. Don't bring your.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's. So he asked. It's on him. He should have known better. What's the proper distance to boo him in person?

[Max Memes]

It. You got to be at the stadium.

[Big Cat]

No, no, but, like, say you see him walking in South Philly, you. Are we keeping 10ft? I think you got to keep, like, 10, 15ft, taboo. Because you don't want to be.

[Max Memes]

No. You don't want to get in his face. No longer than I'm trying to. Unless it's, like, in passing, you know, like, you're walking one way he's walking and you just.

[Big Cat]

Boo.

[Max Memes]

Keep it going.

[Big Cat]

Or you just hit him with like a. Out of the side of your mind. Like, boo.

[Brandon Walker]

Just a quick.

[Big Cat]

Hey, coach.

[Max Memes]

Nah, no boo. No booze. Boo's got to stay at the stadium. Boo's got to stay. What about if he's walking into the stadium? If he's walking into the stadium, it's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

What if you see him at the supermarket?

[Max Memes]

No, no booze. At the super.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, no booze. But can you walk past him and just do a thumbs down?

[Max Memes]

Thumbs down.

[PFT Commenter]

1 thumbs down.

[Big Cat]

Thumbs down is really good.

[Hank]

What if you're driving. What if you're driving through Philadelphia and you pull up to a red light and you look to your right and you just see that he happens to be stopped right to your right.

[Brandon Walker]

Is there dice in your mirror and.

[Hank]

Is in his windows down?

[Max Memes]

No, you got to have the ball. If you have the ball sack coming off the back of the pickup truck.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

If you have truck. Truck nuts, then that's.

[Max Memes]

Then that's just expected.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have any questions regarding the security around Kevin Patullo?

[Brandon Walker]

Hank?

[Hank]

No, I think he's fine.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Max Memes]

Private life's got to be private. Private, private life.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that there's any. Any way that they could protect them?

[Hank]

I mean, the people that threw those eggs are probably going to end up at the bottom of a river, but that's just.

[PFT Commenter]

They should know that just this problem can be solved with a lawn chair and Big Dom just sitting in the front yard.

[Max Memes]

I. Yes, it will be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it will.

[PFT Commenter]

It will be taken care of.

[Big Cat]

It will be taken care of. Yeah. No, don't do that, though. It's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't throw away bad. Don't go to people's house.

[Big Cat]

Don't go to people's houses. That's really.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the kind of weird, like, don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because when we say don't throw eggs, that means that it were not imply or we're kind of implying like, oh, yeah, it's great to drive. Don't go to his house. Don't go. You shouldn't know where your coaches live. You shouldn't. Yeah. That means you actively looked for it.

[PFT Commenter]

How did that get out?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, and also, you were looking for.

[PFT Commenter]

It, and it's probably. That means it's probably somebody in the neighborhood. I would imagine they live in a nice house in Philly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's a neighbor that probably also owns a nice house. Like a millionaire in Philadelphia. Went to the store, bought eggs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Went to Kevin Patullo's house to egg it.

[Big Cat]

Are you. You're looking up the Don Lagre rant. One of my favorites. Boom. At the mall, he said. Was it Evan Neal said that the flip. Play. Play just a little bit of. It's so good. Boom everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

Do we know where we get to boom at this time?

[Big Cat]

All right, here's. Here's the Don legreca from a couple years ago talking about Evan Neal after he made fun of the fans flip.

[Brandon Walker]

Hot dogs and hamburgers somewhere.

[Big Cat]

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I cut his ass.

[Brandon Walker]

I would. How dare you? How dare you? These people pay your salary. They pay an obnoxious amount of money to park an obnoxious amount of money.

[Big Cat]

For PSLs to sit there and watch this pap. And you call them hamburger flippers.

[Brandon Walker]

What?

[Big Cat]

You're so much better.

[Brandon Walker]

I'd rather have a guy that's flipping hamburgers block than your piece of garbage ass. Who the hell are you to talk.

[Big Cat]

To fans like that, you piece of garbage?

[Brandon Walker]

I hate when players do that.

[Big Cat]

You're not above us. What? Because you happen to play a sport, you make them. You're better than me.

[Brandon Walker]

You're better than the people that pay your salary. These giant fans were here before you.

[Big Cat]

And they'll be here after your sorry ass is cut. What a piece of human trash.

[Brandon Walker]

And I don't want to hear some apology. I don't want to hear, oh, I was taken out of contact.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to hear, done. Done. I would cut his fat ass.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, if I'm John Mara, I call him into the office.

[Big Cat]

You were a first round pick, but.

[Brandon Walker]

You'Re not worth anything.

[Big Cat]

There's a different one to our fans.

[Brandon Walker]

That way you don't talk.

[Big Cat]

No, I think this is it. You are out of a job. Job.

[Brandon Walker]

I, I.

[Big Cat]

You should boo if you see him in the mall.

[Brandon Walker]

Willowbrook.

[Big Cat]

Boo his ass if you see him.

[Brandon Walker]

On the dmv, Boo him.

[Big Cat]

Don't stop booing him.

[Max Memes]

He goes to the Pro Bowl.

[Brandon Walker]

Boom. If he wins a Super bowl, boo.

[PFT Commenter]

Is sorry.

[Big Cat]

If he goes to the mall in Willowbrook. Boom.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Pulo hasn't. He hasn't said anything like that about the fans.

[Max Memes]

No, that's what it's got to.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to keep professional. We got to keep it professional about job. Pro performance.

[Max Memes]

It's got to be. It's got to be a final statement. It's only at the Link. Only at the Link. Maybe the, maybe the NovaCare, the practice complex, but that's it. It's got to be. It's got to be on Eagles grounds for booing. You can't.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Max Memes]

No personal booze. No personal booze. Family stuff.

[Big Cat]

Cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that was my accountability. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. My hot seat is Mike Tomlin and the Steelers because I actually think that he might. This might be it.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know who's going to break up with who though.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

The Rooneys don't feel like breaking up with coaches ever. They've had three coaches since like Vietnam.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And Mike Tomlin, he can't be happy like the last, what, 10 years, no playoff wins.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Tomlin's probably not happy with the situation either. He doesn't really be. He doesn't seem to be trying to do anything different to change it.

[Big Cat]

And it's just the same. It's the same thing in every single year. So I saw this stat from Ben Solick. He said the Steelers haven't completed a downfield pass in 36 days. They're over 13. Three interceptions, last five games combined on 20 plus air yard passes. They just can't. Their whole offense stinks. Their defense is the most expensive and it stinks. You have. I think you just have to get rid of them.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. I don't think they completed pass over 20 air yards in the entire month of November.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, 36 days.

[PFT Commenter]

And Jamis at one point had I think four of those passes in a single game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it just. The offense is completely broken. Tomlin is not having fun. The fans aren't having fun. The. Or. That's why I'm saying. I, I do think that. I think the Maras could be convinced to like they crave the, the silent, authoritative leadership and stability of nine and eight seasons in New York. I could see, I could see the Giants trying to get.

[Big Cat]

I. Rex Ryan was saying on, on get up that he would get a job in two seconds. I don't know if he would anymore. I think he would get another job. I think he might have to take.

[PFT Commenter]

A year off if it was like.

[Big Cat]

It'S been that bad where it's, it's just the same football over and over and over and over and they don't change anything. And It's, I mean, T.J. watts said it. I think the Bills ran the same play 27 times on Sunday. Yeah. That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's. It's bad. It's bad.

[Big Cat]

But it feels like this is finally. Because we've, we've been in this spot before where people will have Murmurs about Mike Tomlin and I guess, yeah, you should probably just bet the Steelers this weekend because this is when he wins.

[PFT Commenter]

And if he beats the Ravens, then everybody, like, the ownership's gonna be happy.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If they make the playoffs, the ownership's gonna be happy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, they. It should be. I don't even know who should break up with who at this point.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't either.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think he should just stop coming to work after the season's over.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just be like, we both know that it's time.

[Big Cat]

And then my cool throne is LeBron, because congratulations to LeBron. He kept his streak alive of scoring 10 games, which is a totally made up streak that he is cares a lot about because he scored his 10th point in when they were down like 22 to the Suns in the fourth quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then subbed himself out immediately.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He had four points in the first half, I think.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also, this streak does not count postseason games because if it did, Jordan would have the streak. But whatever. It counts only regular season because LeBron did score eight points against. Can we just admit that LeBron's in his stat padding time? Like, it's fine. It's fine.

[Brandon Walker]

It's not.

[Big Cat]

I'm not trying to be a hater. I am a hater, but I'm not trying to be a hater in this moment. It's okay to just be like, when everyone says longevity and all this stuff, he's just. He's just stat padding like the rest of the season. Yeah. Probably next season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Luke's trying to go.

[Big Cat]

He's.

[Hank]

He's. He's moved on from basketball.

[Big Cat]

Golf. Yeah, he's gonna go.

[Hank]

He is. Like, that's, That's. That's the first sign.

[Big Cat]

But being like I have to score 10 points every game is.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

It's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

So if you get really into golf while you're still working at your current job, that's the first sign that you're checked out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Big time.

[Big Cat]

No naps.

[Hank]

No naps.

[Big Cat]

No naps. No naps.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say that if you get really into watching golf on YouTube.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're probably. He's probably checking his phone, like, during games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, let's see. Let's see what the Bob does guys are up to this week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Bob does is playing Max Homa again. This is fucking sick. I actually excited for that. No, he bought. Bob did tweet out that he has, like, they're doing a John Rahm and A Max homa this week. So LeBron probably excited. This is actually. I'm speaking from actual facts. I am excited for those. I bet you LeBron is too.

[PFT Commenter]

So LeBron's gonna watch Max Homo play golf.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot of pressure on Max. Omaha, Max, we miss you. I. I do miss having Max on the show.

[Big Cat]

We should have him on. Dude. I hit him up. He actually was. He texted me on Sunday. Yeah, about the Bears or. No, Friday about the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I heard from him last week as well.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna. We should try to do a video with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do it when we're.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna be in Scottsdale. I don't have to twist your arm. Zach, hot seat. Cool to run my hot seat this week. I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna try to moving forward. Not bring us up anymore. But I would just like to say a lot of the Blob doubters need to understand that we're in trouble. Have you guys seen what's going on? I'm not. I'm not doubting anymore. You were right. A lot of doubt. Fuck us up. It's gonna fuck up the whole country. Yeah, Big cat.

[Brandon Walker]

We are.

[Big Cat]

Earth could be finished.

[PFT Commenter]

We could be done.

[Big Cat]

I saw it, but I actually is. Does anyone else do this?

[Brandon Walker]

Where.

[Big Cat]

If it's gonna be a bad winter, I'm just. I saw like, these models and people saying that I think the Northeast and the south is getting some snow and, like, having. As long as everyone's in it together. Texas. No, I'm good. I'm good with it. Tallahassee, Panhandle snow. Get ready. If you can't pick a spot on the map that outside of Southern California, that's good. It's like, all right, fine. It all sucks for everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Is the Blob here? The Blob currently in the Blob.

[Big Cat]

Blobs here.

[Brandon Walker]

Stay.

[Big Cat]

I think the Blob is going to continue to be a. A fixture of our lives. 500 flights canceled recently. We're at 10 inches of snow for the year. We're like 17 inches of snow for the entire last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, last year was easy.

[Big Cat]

Last year was easy. But guess what? Here's. Here's how you got to think about it. This one's going to suck. But then comparatively, next year is going to be a breeze. There's a world. The Blob never goes away. Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

So now.

[Big Cat]

Now I'm out. Now you're being a little dramatic.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I feel bad for Zach, obviously.

[Hank]

Because it is his first winner. But I also think it's like if, if it was last winner, Zach would have been like, winter sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But winter was easy last winter.

[Hank]

No, it's still winter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was unprecedented. There was that like two week stretch. December was easy and there was no snow.

[Max Memes]

And it was. And it was money by St Patrick's Day last year.

[Big Cat]

So. Zach, what I'm saying is this actually is a good. You gotta, you gotta think about the optimistic view of this. This is actually a great thing for you because this is your first winner of your entire life. It's gonna be bad. But then every winter after that's going to be easy.

[Hank]

Unless the blob never goes away.

[Big Cat]

Unless the blob never goes.

[PFT Commenter]

So wait, the warm blob right now is over the Pacific?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then it pushes.

[PFT Commenter]

So Pacific is having like a permanent summer right now.

[Big Cat]

I don't, I don't. I think it's pushing the cold air down.

[Max Memes]

We don't. I don't know.

[Brandon Walker]

You can't.

[Max Memes]

Let's not make.

[Big Cat]

We can't even do time.

[Max Memes]

Let's not make it something.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a.

[Big Cat]

We're doing weather patterns.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a warm blob that's like just posted up over Hawaii.

[Big Cat]

It took us, it took us 20 minutes to get to the bottom of an F1 race. Now we're going to do.

[Max Memes]

We can't do meteorology on this show. This is not a meteorologist show.

[Big Cat]

If I had to take an educated guess. It's not educated. I think there's probably warm air sitting over the Pacific that then pushes the cold air from Canada further down. That was, that was a greatly educated guess. I think that's right. I think that's like pretty close. Okay. Got going on.

[Max Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I do want to say you're right. I was being dramatic there. Blob will go away, but it's sinking its toes right now. Listen, you got video games, we got the game. But I'm just thinking like outages, the amount of snow. The other thing is you didn't. I actually am not going to hear any complaints from you. Because I'm remembering now that in the summer on Sundays when we'd come in and I'd ask what you did this weekend and I said would ask if you had gone outside, you'd say no. Oh, I'm talking safety. Your life is not changing at all.

[PFT Commenter]

You're kind of built for the block.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You would not like. I remember specifically, like a beautiful 80 degree weekend in August and I was like, holy shit. What? What perfect weather. And you were like, yeah, I didn't go outside. Those are 100 facts and I'm not going to dispute that. I'm speaking from more of a safety point. We'll be safe.

[Max Memes]

You're going to be safe. You're going to be safe. You're going to be outside for a total of like 20 minutes in like December and January combined, which also means.

[Big Cat]

Again is no different than July.

[PFT Commenter]

Is this going to be an extended.

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[PFT Commenter]

Is this going to be like an extended blob situation? Like, is the winter going to be longer or just worse?

[Big Cat]

I think it's just going to be colder and more snow. I don't mind the snow. It feels like as if the seasons keep getting pushed back a little bit. You know how like we, we crept into winter later.

[PFT Commenter]

No, because we got snow in November.

[Big Cat]

We had a great, great fall though. Incredible fall.

[PFT Commenter]

What if Hank's never able to play golf again? And he's just really good left handed and he can never play on a course.

[Big Cat]

Damn.

[Hank]

We'll be back.

[PFT Commenter]

How's the left summer going?

[Hank]

Day two? It's going okay.

[PFT Commenter]

How was day one?

[Hank]

I was all right. It's grind. Just trying to. Trying to build on the fundamentals, find something consistent.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't take a single swing. Ready?

[Hank]

Nope.

[Brandon Walker]

All right. Your cool throwing.

[Big Cat]

My. My cool throw this week is going to be play Ricardi. He's a latest person to receive a Fortnite icon skin because we got a chapter seven season one dropping. You guys seen Eclipse from chapter seven season one?

[Max Memes]

No. Battle Bus.

[Big Cat]

Battle Bus go. You can drive the reboot now.

[PFT Commenter]

Battle Best bus blew up.

[Hank]

Tomato Town back.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't know any of that.

[Max Memes]

Surfing in.

[Brandon Walker]

They.

[Max Memes]

You just surf in.

[PFT Commenter]

No more Battle Bus Tilted.

[Max Memes]

Good questions.

[Big Cat]

Now back out.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't understand anything that's happening right now.

[Big Cat]

Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm kind of scared.

[Hank]

I never played Fortnite, but like if Tilted's not in, I'm definitely not playing college.

[Max Memes]

Fortnite was elite.

[Brandon Walker]

Get.

[Big Cat]

Get icons can just, you know, you get to, you get to represent your. Your IRL self in game self. Oh, okay.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zack skin. I think, I think you guys would make great icon skins.

[Hank]

You guys had icon skins in college football, right? Didn't they?

[PFT Commenter]

You did.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So this is, this is Fortnite. Fortnite is the game where you, you compete and one person wins Battle Royale.

[Max Memes]

It depends if you're, you know, if you're doing duos or squads, then your team wins.

[Big Cat]

You got to think about duos.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's the best? Who's the best here?

[Hank]

Is the gold scar back?

[Max Memes]

I would assume, I would assume, Zach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we can't make any assumptions. I, I, I can't. I.

[Max Memes]

When was the last time you played?

[Big Cat]

I'm not, I never claim to be good at any games. I just play a lot of games.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your kd?

[Big Cat]

I, I don't check KD right now we're. Because we're camo grinding.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotcha.

[Big Cat]

Got it. Yep. Makes sense. Okay, let's get to our interview with Brandon Walker. We're going to talk all things college football playoff, coaching, carousel, everything. Before we do that, a couple ads.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is our college football expert for like three more weeks.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, yeah, yeah, but I don't know that you really took last week, last year's result, and did anything with it.

[Big Cat]

So. Yeah, you were the college football expert. We've said it many times.

[Brandon Walker]

You only used me one time after that. No. So you didn't even really use me.

[Big Cat]

This doesn't count.

[Brandon Walker]

This is the second time right by myself. This is the second time.

[Big Cat]

So Brandon Walker's here.

[PFT Commenter]

We had you on the couch with Tom Fornelli when you were the reigning champion.

[Brandon Walker]

But I. As I won, I won the award. And the next time I was on the show, he was still here. So that didn't seem like an award at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so I thought that you would want to gloat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And to show him dominance face to face.

[Big Cat]

Probably your last time, because you are going to lose this year.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm going to lose this year. And which shows you what a messed up year it was in college football.

[Big Cat]

Well, not really. None of you picked. You were 12 deep.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, none of us picked Indiana.

[Big Cat]

It was current 2 seed. You also are going to lose it because you gave a guarantee over this past week. And I turned to be wrong. So you guaranteed that Lane Kiffin was going to stay at Ole Miss. How did Brandon Walker get this so wrong?

[Brandon Walker]

This is tough. You didn't tell me you were going to do this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I did not tell you I was going to do this. I did not tell you.

[Brandon Walker]

My credibility means a lot to me in the college football space. And I believe from the sources that I was hearing was Lane Kiffin loved Oxford and he thought it was the best place on earth. And he would never leave anywhere because Lane Kiffin himself said, I'm not going anywhere just for the money. It turns out he went somewhere that gave him the biggest offer of money. And I felt in my heart that he was going to stay in Oxford. I think college football would have been better if he stayed at Ole Miss because that's. That's just such a great place. And I am heartbroken that he decided to leave those douchebags.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Brandon, a quick follow up here. You said. Yeah, 50 commenter, part of my take podcast.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

You said that he didn't leave for the money, but then he actually did leave for the money. I heard Lane Kiffin say in his press conference yesterday at LSU that he actually didn't know how much the schools were offering him. He told his agent, Jimmy Sexton, this is not about the money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he.

[PFT Commenter]

It was like a blind mystery box. It was like deal or no deal.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he had no idea if they were even going to pay Him.

[Brandon Walker]

So at this point, why are we holding Lane Tiffin? Press conferences. Who's believing a word he says?

[Big Cat]

Okay, I got it.

[Brandon Walker]

I was believing a word this guy says when it comes to. He said, I'm not leaving for the money immediately left for the money. He says, my heart's here. He said, this is my dog. It's not. Not his dog. Like, everything he said ended up being.

[Big Cat]

We already talked about the dog earlier in the show, so we're not going to talk.

[Brandon Walker]

The dog thing is the most important thing in college football.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Right now.

[Brandon Walker]

It wasn't his dog.

[Big Cat]

It's not his dog. But. All right, so here's my question for you. We're actually looking at the updated standings in. Brandon only has Texas, Notre Dame, who both might not get in. And Oregon.

[Brandon Walker]

Oregon's gonna be in.

[Big Cat]

Oregon will be in. And you got. I don't. I think you're mathematically eliminated.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, I think I'm done.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so how did you get this so wrong?

[Brandon Walker]

Can I have the leftover teams? And I. I would still. I think, if I took all the leftover teams that aren't listed.

[Big Cat]

I'll give you Indiana.

[Brandon Walker]

I think I'm competitive.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Brandon Walker]

Max and Tom. And here's the thing. Tom is blowing me out. Tom didn't do good either.

[Big Cat]

No, he did.

[Brandon Walker]

He did way much better.

[Big Cat]

Iowa State. He got Georgia.

[PFT Commenter]

He got too late.

[Brandon Walker]

I think Alabama could.

[Big Cat]

Texas Tech with the last pick.

[Brandon Walker]

Bama could be green.

[Big Cat]

Bama could be green. Miami could be green.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, like, he might. He might do okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so Tulane.

[Brandon Walker]

Like, he's. He's actually. Is that too late?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so, Brandon, I want to talk about the College Football playoff, but before we do that, I want to talk about Lane for a couple more seconds here. I. Do you like Lane Kiffin? Because I love Lane Kiffin. And here's why. I love Lane Kiffin. He's Lane Kiffin.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Nothing that he does. Like, when people are shocked by Lane Kiffin, it's like, well, dude, he's Lane Kiffin. He's. He's been the same guy his entire career.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How? Anyone? Like, even this morning, I was on. On Wake Up, Barcelona, and I asked T. Bob the simple question. Do you think that you. Do you think that Lane Kiffin found his forever home and he does? And I'm like, you're a moron.

[Brandon Walker]

He's an idiot.

[Big Cat]

You're like, lane Kiffin will be at lsu. Lane Kiffin's a really good coach. He might win a national title.

[Brandon Walker]

He'll Leave, Right. He's going to leave for the Dolphins job or the Bills job. He's going to leave an NFL job in four years.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be hilarious.

[Brandon Walker]

Four years of the top 10 exits, most incredible exits in cost football history. Lane Kiffin's got three of them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

He's got the tarmac. He's got. Well, I know this is NFL. He's got the PowerPoint presentation with Al Davis.

[Big Cat]

He's got Knoxville riots.

[Brandon Walker]

He's got the Knoxville riots. And now he has stringing Ole Miss along for weeks and weeks and weeks, saying all these things and then immediately going to LSU and trying to hold his team hostage.

[Big Cat]

And LSU and Ole Miss are rivals. They're rivals. Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

They're secondary rivals. Yeah. They hate each other. Their secondary arrivals were Ole Miss, but. But they are rivals. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I've heard that some Ole Miss fans hate LSU more than the Miss.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, they're lying. They're lying.

[Big Cat]

That's what I heard.

[Brandon Walker]

You can't believe an Ole Miss fan at all. They're lying. Pieces of. They lie all the time. They're. They're fake university.

[Big Cat]

They break a dog. That's what I heard. I think I heard some Ole Miss.

[Brandon Walker]

They're lying to try to make themselves look superior.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

After the. After all this happens, you better believe that's the rivalry now.

[Brandon Walker]

And now it's a big time rivalry. Yeah. Now it's even bigger than it was. It is. It is gigantic.

[Big Cat]

So who's going to. Who is your rival? Because you don't have one.

[Brandon Walker]

Ours. Ours is old. Don't do this. Don't do this.

[Big Cat]

Dumb. But Lane Kiffin. So you kind of like him? If he wasn't coaching Ole Miss, I think you'd kind of like it. Because in my whole thesis with Lane Kiffin is guys like this make sports, especially college football, more entertaining.

[Brandon Walker]

So there it is. It's the college. This is the most college football league of all time. We love it too much. We're too passionate about it. We believe when a coach comes to our school and wins, he not only is winning for our school, he loves our school. He is now home. We're his family. And now we're going to embrace his family like our own. And we're going to do all these things. He's just a guy doing a job. Yeah, that's what he is. And he just took. All he did was take another job and he took what he considered a better job. But it is absolute knife in the heart betrayal to Ole Miss fans that this Family member, this man that we have worshiped for six years would turn his back on us. The man just took a better job. And to your question, do I like Lane Kiffin? I like what he just did to Ole Miss. And I think college football is a better place when you have wild cards like Lane Kiffin. And I think he is a top, probably five coach in this country. Yeah, I think he's an elite coach. I don't know if he's an elite human being, but that's what makes him even more appealing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's.

[Big Cat]

So none of these guys are.

[Brandon Walker]

You've got to be an asshole to win the highest level.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's an elite human being. It's like when you, when you have a.

[Brandon Walker]

Who cares if they are like a.

[PFT Commenter]

A professional athlete or a high level coach? They should not have any perspective whatsoever. They're psychopaths.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They think about, like two things. One is football, and sometimes the other is where the hose at?

[Brandon Walker]

So I, I never had. I've had to hide my. I've never had a texting relationship with Lane. I don't have his phone number or anything, but I. I've had to hide my DMs with him over the last few years where I would say, you know, I would send him a little jab. He's in me a little jab. He'd send me me a scoreboard. He sent me the SEC standings.

[Big Cat]

But.

[Brandon Walker]

But like, I do like that he exists and I love that he absolutely made Ole Miss fans feel.

[Big Cat]

But. But I'll also say as. As much I'm defending Lane Kiffine here, I have no problem with Ole Miss fans being as upset as they are because they feel like it's the fact that it's a playoff.

[Brandon Walker]

Here's the thing. It's the playoff and this guy. Listen, shout out Ben Garrett for on three. He had the exact right line. You cannot turn a hoe into a housewife. And when Ole Miss hire Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin was Lane Kiffin then. And they knew. They knew Lane Kiffin was Lane Kiffin for six years. They masked it and they covered it. And they had ESPN do these documentaries about how he's a changed man, how he loves Oxford, then he's changed, he's matured, and boom, they turn on him and. Or he. He turns on them. They turn on him and it's all.

[Big Cat]

But it's a playoff game. Like, if they weren't in the playoffs, I think this would not have anywhere near the bad blood that it.

[Brandon Walker]

I think it was always going to end and poorly.

[Big Cat]

Poorly. But like you, if you're a fan of Ole Miss, like, you have every right to be, like, are you fucking serious? You have a chance to win a national title this year.

[Brandon Walker]

I think Lane knows he doesn't have a chance to win a national title and that's why he's leaving. I think he knows he doesn't have a national title. If he thought he had a national title team, he would try to win it.

[Big Cat]

Do you think they should have let him coach the Egg Bowl? Because that was where, like, that's the only thing Ole Miss screwed up in my mind is if Lane had said he was going to LSU a couple weeks ago, she was like, all right, go.

[Brandon Walker]

I am.

[Big Cat]

See you.

[Brandon Walker]

I am of the belief they knew ten days ago.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Brandon Walker]

Ten days ago they announced the day after the Egg bowl, we're going to announ. They knew then they chose to let him coach the Egg Ball to make sure they get that win. To make sure. Whatever. And maybe they thought in that 10 day interim they could convince him to stay. But in that 10 days, Alex Golish went off the market. John Sumrall went off the market. All the other coaches they could have gotten, and I know John Somerl. Alex goes. Would have taken that job.

[Big Cat]

Mincy was trying to get John Summerall and he was working and they lost.

[Brandon Walker]

All those guys and they ended up having to hire their. Their defensive defense coordinator, Pete Golden.

[PFT Commenter]

So what about this? The clause in the contract where Lane Kiffin is now getting paid his bonuses that Ole Miss would have paid them?

[Brandon Walker]

I think this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

[Big Cat]

I love it. It's gambling. It's free bets.

[Brandon Walker]

The LSU Tigers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Are going to pay Lane Kiffin $1 million if Ole miss wins the national title. What a stupid fucking sport.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

What a stupid sport. Can you imagine the. The Yankees hiring the Dodgers manager and saying, if the Dodgers won the World Series, we're going to give you a million dollars?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

No, you can't.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's crazy. It's absolutely nuts. Do you think that Lane is going to be actively rooting for Ole Miss?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

I guess for the million dollars, maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

The totality situation. Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

I think he's rooting for them to lose as soon as possible so he can go get his players. I think he's rooting for that season and as quick as possible. And he's going to end the post game. Text messages are going to start lighting up in that locker room. That's What I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he allowed to post the Trinidad flag emoji or is that tampering?

[Brandon Walker]

Trinidad's a country, is it not?

[PFT Commenter]

It is, yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

He can support any country he wants.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Why, why, why can't he support Trinidad and Tobago?

[Big Cat]

Well, you just remembering this Tobago.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's just supporting the Trinidad part of it.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm not sure. I mean, he put the Trinidad flag out. That's seems like he's a man of the world, a worldly man.

[Big Cat]

You love Lane Kiffin.

[Brandon Walker]

All right, so I love what Lane Kiffin has become. Lane Kiffin has become a means to an end for me, and it is. Been delicious.

[PFT Commenter]

Last Lane, quick kiffing question for me.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What is the bare minimum for the bar for success at lsu? Let's. Let's see in the next four years.

[Brandon Walker]

I think it's a national title.

[Big Cat]

It has to be.

[PFT Commenter]

So they get to a national championship, don't win it.

[Brandon Walker]

One bust with Brian Kelly, he never got past 9 and 3, 8 and 4. I think he threw a 10 and 2 in there. He would probably still be Safe, maybe an 11 and 1. But Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss, a tougher job to win at. Has won 10 games in a regular season four times. He's proven he can do it in the SEC. Brian Kelly had never proven he could do it in the sec. And when he got here, there was. There was such a clash of cultures, and he was just fighting from behind all the time. And frankly, the difference in him winning nine and ten games a couple of those years was he had to play Lane Kiffin's Ole Miss, and Lane got him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Now Lane's going to be playing Pete Goldings, Ole Miss. I think Lane's going to get them. So, like, I. I think he's gonna raise the bar a little bit at lsu. But if in four years you haven't won a national title for a program that has won three national titles in the last two decades with three different coaches, frankly, only one of them probably as good as Lane. I think that's. That's reasonable expectation.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Brandon Walker]

And can I just real quick.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

I love Lane Kiffin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah, I know you do.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a great story. So. So he faked that dog, though. He did fake.

[Big Cat]

Well, the dog is real.

[PFT Commenter]

The dog's real. It just never belonged to him.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, he.

[Big Cat]

But we already talked about it, so we can't talk about it.

[Brandon Walker]

Taking the best story. Okay. How big of a company right now.

[PFT Commenter]

How big of a disaster is the Penn State coaching search Right now, it is a disaster.

[Brandon Walker]

They were the first ones to the buffet line. They. They cut bait early on. James Franklin, he went 11, 1, 10, 2, 11, 1 10, 2 every single year. And the second he lost a couple of games he wasn't supposed to lose, they said, nope, we're not. We're Penn State. We're better than this. And now they watch LSU go hire Lane Kiffin. They watch all these SEC jobs open and fill in front of them. And Kurt Signetti, he's not trying to coach. You know, Mike Elko's not coming. So now they're like, they're down, you know, 15, 16, 20 coaches deep in the search.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

And they've got nothing. Signing days tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

I don't think it's. Do the interim. Max had the best idea. Just hire was Terry Smith.

[Max Memes]

Terry Smith?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Terry Smith. Hire him as the interim.

[Brandon Walker]

But that's a. That. That's a band aid on a water.

[Big Cat]

No, no, but. No, no, no. Hire him. Don't take the interim off.

[Max Memes]

Just go a full year and a half interim.

[Big Cat]

So you get.

[Max Memes]

Go to the first buffet next year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[Brandon Walker]

So. So they didn't do anything with their. Their buffet line this year. So what you're telling me you're always.

[Big Cat]

You're staying at the buffet? If I have an interim.

[Brandon Walker]

If I had sat there in September and said, yeah, Penn State, you're firing James Franklin this weekend so that you may hire a new coach in 16.

[Big Cat]

Months, I would have said, yeah, interim. Terry, you're at the buffet.

[PFT Commenter]

You've definitely done this move. You've got. You've gone to Bob Evans or the Golden Corral, and you've gone up to the buffet and you've had your plate, and you just eat off your plate while you're standing next to the buffet.

[Brandon Walker]

So I have done. Not at a Bob Evans. I've only eaten at a Bob Evans once. It was in Lexington, Kentucky, in 2014. And I thought Bob Evans was a nice restaurant. And I, like, I tried to call and make a reservation for it. I was like, I'm going to Lexington for the first time. Let me Google restaurants. I saw Bob Evans. I'm gonna check it out. And then I got in there, I was like, okay, well, this is just a Shoney's with a different name.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

And. But yeah, I've. I pulled some tricks at buffet lines.

[Big Cat]

I always do that with the calendar.

[Brandon Walker]

The way it is. Pizza Hut buffet every day after school.

[Big Cat]

Lunch, the best.

[Brandon Walker]

And I would. I knew what time they would put pizzas out usually about 1101, something like that. If they didn't have it by 1101, I'm standing in the buffet.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

My hometown growing up had a McDonald's breakfast buffet.

[Brandon Walker]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

You could go to. They had hot. The hotcakes, the sausages, the eggs. They had the egg McMuffins that you could just get a KFC buffet. That's pretty good.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes. Pretty awesome.

[Big Cat]

The buffet. The buffet move that PFT described is. I've done that every single time I've ever been in a buffet.

[Brandon Walker]

Why would you.

[Big Cat]

You put the food on your plate and then you just eat off the plate as you go. Because you say to yourself, oh, I want a slice of pizza, but I really want the Chinese. So I'm going to eat the slice of pizza while I walk to the Chinese.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, let me ask you this, because this is, I think, the fattest move I've ever pulled at a buffet. You. You go through the line, you make your plate. Casino buffets, especially, because you never, almost never know what's coming. You just keep going.

[Big Cat]

Rookie.

[Brandon Walker]

No, I'm not a rookie. Yeah, okay.

[Big Cat]

That was a rookie move. Anyway, you know what's coming because you do an entire pass through. But let me say where you have a little bit. Okay, so not a full plate.

[Brandon Walker]

This is my fat move. I go in, I see that. Good. Fill it up, fill it up, fill it up, fill it up. Plates full. I walk to the table, I put my plate down, I go back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, double plate. Yeah, yeah, double plate. What you're describing, you did your reconnaissance move.

[Big Cat]

As I have. As you're eating, I go. I go, literally plate in hand. Reconnaissance where I'm not filling up, I'm just taking. I'm just taking pieces to eat. And then I go back.

[Brandon Walker]

I can't do that. The second I get in that buffet restaurant, I have to get to the buffet and start getting things.

[Big Cat]

But I'm getting to the buffet.

[Brandon Walker]

No, but you're looking. I.

[Big Cat]

No, no, I'm looking and eating.

[Brandon Walker]

You're reconnaissance, though.

[Big Cat]

I'm reconnaissance, but I'm also eating. Okay. I'm just not. I go. My recon.

[Brandon Walker]

You're taking. I start.

[Big Cat]

I start at the front of the buffet, and I have a plate that's empty, and I will go through the entire buffet and I'll start back at the front, and my plate will still be empty, but I've already eaten. Does that make sense?

[Brandon Walker]

I see.

[Big Cat]

I'm saying, yeah, okay, I've already had like a half.

[Brandon Walker]

Like, you've had, like, three strips of bacon, but as I walk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brandon Walker]

You've had some tater tots.

[Big Cat]

Correct?

[Brandon Walker]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

But I. There's nothing to show for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Pins.

[Big Cat]

Great.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Disaster. They've got national signing day. They don't have a coach.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Brandon Walker]

Jay Franklin's getting all the recruits.

[PFT Commenter]

He's getting all the recruits. Everyone's going down to Virginia Tech right now. How bad of a sign is it for Texas A and M that Elko kicked the tires that he thought about?

[Brandon Walker]

I don't think. I think it's a terrific sign that he didn't go. Penn State, to me, is pretty easily a top 10 to 12 job nationally. I think it's the number, number three job in the big 10. I disagree. Okay, tell me who. Ohio State, Michigan, and what USC argument could be made in Oregon.

[PFT Commenter]

Oregon.

[Big Cat]

Oregon.

[Brandon Walker]

But I. Okay, but it's in that conversation. You would agree. It's in this.

[Big Cat]

It's in this. It's in the second tier of the Big Ten, firmly.

[Brandon Walker]

If I'm, if I'm Mike Elko and I really had no ties to Texas A and M before I. Or really? No. I know he'd been there before, but really no ties to A and M before he ever coached there. And I had Pennsylvania ties, which I believe that he does have. That's something you. That's conversation you have. If I'm A and M and my coach goes out, talks to Penn State, comes back and signs with me, I feel really good.

[PFT Commenter]

So he just, he clearly just did it for the race. He was playing the game.

[Brandon Walker]

Listen, I, I, I think in this, in this crazy coaching carousel, every single year, you're going to have a lot of conversations that are solely intended to get more money from the school you're at.

[Big Cat]

You did the same thing with browsers when your contract was.

[Brandon Walker]

That's exactly what I did.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

That's my, that's the extent of my three. That's the extent of my conversations with browsers.

[PFT Commenter]

You had a browser's background.

[Brandon Walker]

I did some close ties to browsers. Yeah. I was conceived on browsers.

[PFT Commenter]

Power user. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so. So Penn State's fucked everything else. Kind of settled a little bit.

[Brandon Walker]

What?

[Big Cat]

Let's talk about the, the playoff. Yeah, let's talk about the playoff because we're. We're taping this in the afternoon at the beginning of the show. You would have heard us react to the live rankings. I don't think there's gonna be a.

[Brandon Walker]

Lot of crazy things, you know, a chessboard night.

[Big Cat]

Right. Are they Gonna move.

[Brandon Walker]

So.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's start in the back. Miami Texas is out.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I actually have a take and people probably say this is wrong, but it's my take. Texas is bitching and moaning about this whole like Ohio State. If we didn't schedule Ohio State, are we sure they would be in if they had scheduled no. 1? Because that Florida losses. I know they have three very good wins.

[Brandon Walker]

I think they would be because they have the win over Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

But that was also John Mattier getting coming back bia. You're right. You're right.

[Brandon Walker]

The win over Oklahoma. They have the win over Vanderbilt. Like they would be in conversation with teams they beat.

[Big Cat]

They would be right on the edge though. They wouldn't be like a slam dunk. They lost to Florida. Florida was garbage.

[Brandon Walker]

I think Oklahoma, I think Oklahoma is the team that probably has the best resume and is in the best spot right now of the at large teams. And if a. And if Texas hadn't lost, they'd be ahead of Oklahoma. So they'd have the best spot.

[Big Cat]

I just know they take injuries into account and Matier was come like he.

[Brandon Walker]

Barely throw that thing about that injury. As we say Matier struggle because of injury. He struggled every game since then.

[Big Cat]

Don't say anything bad about Shamater.

[Brandon Walker]

He just said. Well, he has, he has. He has not been good since then.

[Big Cat]

You're on thin ice, buddy. And you're. You're heavy. You don't you.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm the heaviest I've ever been.

[Big Cat]

You can't get out on thin ice.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm a smooth 282 right now.

[Big Cat]

You're gonna fall through. Are you really?

[Brandon Walker]

I'm at least 280. I'm big right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Plus or minus Darnell Washington. You're kind about his size.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm right at him. I think. No, he's 311.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he 311 before Thanksgiving?

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. I'm a little minus Darnell Washington, but he's. He's.

[Big Cat]

Listen, we're all heavy right now. It's. It's December.

[Brandon Walker]

It's a heavy time.

[Big Cat]

So let's start at the back of it though. Notre Dame and Miami. I, I am. I, I did a troll tweet on Sunday where I, I made my whole rankings based on loss. Good losses should matter more than good wins. Obviously I was joking. I understand the game played. It was played in August. I still think the games have to matter.

[Brandon Walker]

So I think it is the absolute perfect storm for this to be worst case scenario for Notre Dame because they did spend the last three months, just killing nobodies and killing USC and being.

[Big Cat]

A really good team.

[Brandon Walker]

Being a really good team, looking like a really good team. The quarterback's really good. The offense is really good. They look every bit like a really good team. And that's fine too. In, in the beginning of November, the end of October, to look at Miami and look at Notre Dame after Miami loses two games to unranked teams and say Notre Dame really looks better right now, I'm going to put them up. But now that we have a full picture, 12 games for every single team, the committee can look at 12 games for Miami, 12 games for Notre Dame. They're so even on the surface that when Miami has that one the head to head, I don't know how the committee can reasonably look at the rest of college football and say, we looked at these two teams, one of them beat the other. We're choosing this one. I don't know how they can do it.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't do it. I think that they've started to realize that you can see in their rankings how they come out week by week.

[Brandon Walker]

Squeeze them a little bit more.

[PFT Commenter]

They realize the, the, the train crash that they put themselves on.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Miami kept on moving up without beating anyone.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like, wait, this makes no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they have to. You can't come back from that argument. Like, they played this game. We know that that team won.

[Brandon Walker]

Let's be honest. In, in on October 15th, if you're putting together a ranking system and everything, you're thinking, I just saw Miami lose to SMU or I saw him lose to Louisville, so I'm going to really dock them. But as you get further and further away and you get more of a clear picture of what these teams have been the entire time. Yeah, they squeeze back closer to Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Now, hypothetically speaking though, if Notre Dame and Miami were to play a game, let's say in Coral Gables on Saturday, you take Notre Dame.

[Brandon Walker]

I wouldn't be shocked if Miami won, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I would like to. Hypotheticals. We did it.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, I would start, but. But like I. What the committee would be opening themselves up for and they've got a couple of these situations, right. Like they got two teams this week, Alabama and BYU playing in conference championship games. Can you imagine a world where Alabama loses and stays in and BYU loses does not.

[PFT Commenter]

So that, that to me is.

[Brandon Walker]

That's what they're going to have to decide.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the Armageddon scenario for the SEC is you Have a championship game.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you could potentially end up punishing one of the teams for playing in and losing the championship game against a team that they already played earlier this season.

[Big Cat]

But that's.

[PFT Commenter]

So if you're Jimmy Sexton.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The commissioner of the sec. How.

[Max Memes]

What would.

[PFT Commenter]

What would happen. What would happen if. If Alabama loses.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They get knocked out. Does this just in championship games.

[Brandon Walker]

But I think BYU and Alabama are protecting each.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. But I. I disagree because Alabama. You could just say, well, they beat Georgia.

[Brandon Walker]

They have the wins.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[Brandon Walker]

They didn't be.

[Big Cat]

BYU didn't beat Texas Tech. Then lose the rem. If Alabama loses, a rematch can be like, well, we can't. But if Texas Tech kills byu, I unders. Like, the committee, I think, has a right to be like, they played the best team on their schedule twice and they got killed twice.

[Brandon Walker]

But BYU does have the fact they're 11 and 1, not 10 and 2 like Alabama.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's tough.

[Brandon Walker]

It's going to be. It would be an awkward conversation for the committee chair to come out of that meeting next week if both Alabama and BYU lose and say, yeah, Alabama, we think they're good enough to go byu. They're not. Unless they get killed by Texas Tech, which is very possible because Texas Tech is very good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Texas. Very good. Do you think Texas Tech is good enough to win it all?

[Brandon Walker]

I would like to list the teams I think are good enough to win it all.

[Big Cat]

Because I'm asking this question maybe because I actually did make a bet on Texas Tech in September at 60 to 1.

[Brandon Walker]

That's pretty crazy.

[Big Cat]

Which.

[Brandon Walker]

How do you always end up with these bets? Listen, that never end up with these bets.

[Big Cat]

That one was just after the Utah game. I was like, this team is awesome. Now I made that bet. Being like, I don't think they can win it all.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. But it's worth a shot.

[Big Cat]

But it's worth. Especially because I have Ohio State futures which are tied to other things. But either way, give us your teams that can win.

[Brandon Walker]

So setting aside the idea that Ohio State is just way better than everybody, I think Ohio State can win it all. Obviously. Indiana. I'm going to pass on right now. I think Georgia. Georgia, probably. I said pass on. I'll come back in a minute. Georgia has the talent to win it all. Weirdly, I don't know if they get in. I think Notre Dame's probably good enough.

[Big Cat]

To win it all.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, I don't think Alabama is. Alabama just has a little bit of soft mentality when they get these tough games. I don't think they can. They got in that tough game against Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

Like Oklahoma can't run the ball.

[Brandon Walker]

Oklahoma's not good enough to wear it all. Ole Miss is not good enough to wear it all. Vanderbilt favorite get in. Not good enough to win at all. Miami not good enough to win at all. Texas Tech. Yeah, I think I would say they are. And Indiana. I probably would say yes. But Indiana's got this thing they love to bully up on teams they're better than. And when the talent advantage isn't in their favor, they struggle mightily like they did against Penn State.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so the one team that Indiana did beat that was shocking that I actually think could win it all. I or Dante Moore is impressive, man. I like. He just makes big throws.

[Brandon Walker]

He's just.

[Big Cat]

And they've got that speed.

[Brandon Walker]

He's impressive enough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Like, like they went to Iowa, 18, 16. He's impressive enough.

[Big Cat]

Well, that one doesn't count because that's when you played Iowa, you know, fair afternoon night in late in the year. That's not football.

[Brandon Walker]

He also went. He went 80 yards when he needed to and made some throws. I don't think working at all. I don't, I don't see them putting together four great playoff games. They. The Indiana game was so damning to me. Like Indiana just kind of pumped them in there.

[Big Cat]

No, they did. They did. I think I'm very interested in this Big Ten championship game. I wish it mattered.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It just sucks at the championship. Championship Saturday used to be awesome. It used to be like, oh my God, we have seven games that we can just sink our teeth into. You have it perfectly scheduled. I don't. I'm going to watch, so. But I don't care. Like what does it matter who wins? Ohio State, Indiana.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, let me ask this question. Okay. So I know that as far as playoff rankings go, once the winner is going to be the one seed, the losers probably going to be the three seed. If Georgia.

[PFT Commenter]

The four.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Or the three of the four.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

The loser on how Texas. The loser at worst will be the four seed. Right. So it doesn't really matter there. But how much would it fucking matter? Ohio State hadn't won the Big Ten in several years now.

[Big Cat]

No, I know.

[Brandon Walker]

They didn't even get there last year. Ohio State has now won 16 straight games after losing to Michigan last year. They've been eight ranked teams in that span. They're putting together a historic run. A title would mean something to them. And how much would it fucking Mean to any of the Big Ten.

[Big Cat]

No, what you're saying is right to the teams and the schools. It matters right to the people who don't have to us. Whereas it used to matter.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, maybe we're being dumb.

[Big Cat]

Like SEC championship used to matter. Do you. Are you pumped for this Alabama, Georgia game? Like, I'm excited to watch it, but like there's. It doesn't feel like there's anything at stake.

[Brandon Walker]

I'd be more pumped if it were teams that don't usually play in it. Alabama, Georgia playing it all the time. So like that Ohio State and Indiana is something new and fresh and still exciting because Indiana is still, still new.

[Big Cat]

To this for sure. I'm interested to see how Indiana does now.

[Brandon Walker]

I am interested to see how Kirby smart coaches because he. Even after Saban retired, he still got this weird thing about Alabama.

[Max Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He can't beat him.

[Brandon Walker]

And if he doesn't beat him this time, I don't know when he's going to be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What about A and M? Would you use the F word for him?

[Brandon Walker]

I have used it several times this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Not that. Not the slur that you usually use.

[Big Cat]

English cigarettes.

[PFT Commenter]

Fraud is what we're talking about. I know what you were saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the one you say all the time. We're not saying that when we're saying, are they fraud?

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, they are the F. We don't care.

[Big Cat]

We don't care if they sleep with men or women frauds.

[Brandon Walker]

Texas A and M has the classic look of a fraudulent team. They beat Notre Dame earlier this season in a game that's going to go either way. There was a crazy holding call at the end that didn't get made. They win the game. That is a very impressive win. That is their best win.

[Big Cat]

The.

[Brandon Walker]

Their SEC schedule is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my entire Life. Their first seven SEC games where they started seven and oh, they played teams ranked nine through 16 in the SEC. They played the bottom 16 teams or the bottom seven teams in the SEC in the first seven SEC games. The second they played somebody in the top half of the league, Texas thumped them. So this looks like a team that feels like a fraud. Marcel Reed is not Joe Montana. Marcel Reed's a good, solid college quarterback. You can make him struggle a lot. He. South Carolina almost got him. And when they. When they did it and I said, hey, listen, that first half is a problem because South Carolina is a bad football team and they made A and M look terrible for a half. A and M ended up Coming back and winning. But that was a huge, huge red flag.

[PFT Commenter]

I know you've got a lot of friends from Texas A and M. A lot of people that respond to your tweets on Twitter.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You get some arguments with them. What are they saying when you call them frauds?

[Brandon Walker]

They are saying the f slur that you're not about. They are saying it.

[PFT Commenter]

So you are a fraud.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, they're. They're saying a lot of slurpees back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. They're. They're an angry group.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I saw your list of the. The most annoying fan bases.

[Brandon Walker]

Oklahoma's usually on that. Tennessee's on that.

[PFT Commenter]

The one that surprised me actually was Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really?

[Brandon Walker]

You don't feel that with Oklahoma?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't.

[Brandon Walker]

You don't. You don't live in this space, buddy. Oklahoma is something.

[PFT Commenter]

I lived in Austin, Texas for about 10 years.

[Brandon Walker]

And you didn't feel it.

[PFT Commenter]

And I did not. I didn't. I didn't share that same hatred towards the. The Oklahoma Sooner fan base. I just.

[Brandon Walker]

They're one of all the other ones.

[PFT Commenter]

On your list I thought were really good. I thought it was spot on. And then Oklahoma was like, that one stands out.

[Brandon Walker]

They're one of those that only. Listen. If you're talking about Oklahom, get mad that you keep talking about Oklahoma because you're obsessed with Oklahoma. That's how Oklahoma lives.

[Big Cat]

Renfree in your brain.

[Brandon Walker]

That's not what I say.

[Big Cat]

You're talking about them right now, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't stop talking.

[Brandon Walker]

He asked me about them.

[PFT Commenter]

You put them on your list.

[Brandon Walker]

They're on the list.

[PFT Commenter]

I said I. I don't really think about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you brought up Oklahoma in what way?

[Max Memes]

He asked you the. The fan bases that are the most annoying.

[Brandon Walker]

That's bringing up Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

So it's rent free.

[Max Memes]

He asked about Oakland. You brought up.

[PFT Commenter]

I gave you an open ended question.

[Brandon Walker]

Tennessee.

[Big Cat]

Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones. Wait. I always up getting it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

I always up getting it. Do it.

[Brandon Walker]

You got it.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no.

[Max Memes]

Indiana Jones was fine.

[Brandon Walker]

That's the end of it.

[Big Cat]

That's the end of it.

[Brandon Walker]

But what's the.

[Big Cat]

It goes.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay, I had the end. Hold on. No, that's. That's Indian Jones.

[Big Cat]

Now.

[Brandon Walker]

Now I can't get it at all.

[Big Cat]

It's such a great song. Just play it. They just hammer you with it. No, that's Indiana Jones.

[Brandon Walker]

But that was Indiana Jones.

[Big Cat]

That was Indiana Jones.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay, whatever. Let's move.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

There we go. It's a long intro.

[Big Cat]

Okay, do it again.

[Brandon Walker]

It does sound like Indiana Jones when you dunk it.

[Big Cat]

We do the whole thing though.

[Brandon Walker]

Oklahoma, this is.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna put that clip out rent free.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't stop talking about it.

[Big Cat]

He's got the song in his head. You told me to do a boomer suitor going in his head.

[Brandon Walker]

You told me to do it. Oklahoma is the worst team we're talking about for the playoff and they have the best resume. They have to be in but they're gonna.

[Big Cat]

Their defense is awesome. And I. I still believe in Mater. He was hurt for the middle of the season. I know he's not been great I think material.

[Brandon Walker]

It's not just Mater. They can't run it. They can't. They got.

[Big Cat]

No Mater can run it.

[Brandon Walker]

It. Not really.

[Big Cat]

He had let him loose.

[Brandon Walker]

He hadn't been doing it. They were lucky to be like five.

[PFT Commenter]

Teams in the sec but they beat.

[Brandon Walker]

Alabama and got out Kingdom by like 250 yards.

[Big Cat]

They get out gained in every day.

[PFT Commenter]

That was less about their. It's not that Alabama's defense was that good. It was. It was. Oklahoma's defense was great. Their offense is limited.

[Brandon Walker]

But the problem is they're half a playoff team. They're going to get in the playoff. They're going to lose 16 10. It's going to be the ugliest thing you've ever seen. And we're going to talking about let's pull it back to an 18 playoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have any resentment in your heart for the University of Texas after what they did to you? Is that why you're saying they're not in. In your personal.

[Brandon Walker]

First of all, I have resentment in my heart for everybody that succeeds in college football. Yeah. Notre Dame. I have resentment.

[Big Cat]

That's why we've gotten along.

[Brandon Walker]

So I have resentment for everybody.

[Big Cat]

I ain't succeeded at all.

[Brandon Walker]

Anybody who enjoys their Saturday afternoons watching their team, I resent that. So me Buddy. Yeah. The man. You are in the same right now.

[Big Cat]

We actually probably had our best friendship year.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In terms of college football discussion because we were just on Saturdays be like, well, this sucks.

[Brandon Walker]

We would just text each other like this is. This is it.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you just.

[Brandon Walker]

We're in this together. Buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you walk us through Brandon Walker Day at Mississippi State?

[Brandon Walker]

It was Texas. It was. It was amazing. I. I got up. We got up and we went and walked through the tailgates and I had some. Some jambalaya and did all the tailgate food and I got to hang out with Hardy, the country music guy.

[Big Cat]

He asked about Brandon Walker Day and the first thing he told talks about is eating. Yeah, that's Brandon Walker.

[Brandon Walker]

And we're walking around, you know, we did the dog walk.

[PFT Commenter]

He's literally eating every day his entire life.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, we'll do the things.

[Big Cat]

Every day is Brandon Walker day.

[Brandon Walker]

We're taking pictures, we're having fun, you know, Hardy. And we go up 17. We're beating their ass. Would you.

[Big Cat]

Would you eat at the game?

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, my God. I stayed in the president's suite. Not the president suite. I was in the. The press box. No, with the athletic director suite.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

And they had the best food up there. They had a pot of boiled peanuts. And I was just going back to boiled peanuts, everybody. I just. Every touchdown and where it was a high scoring game, I kept going, getting a scoop of boiled peanuts and throwing the shells away. It was great, great day. And then there was. There was. There was some Berea tacos. Berea tacos and boiled peanuts.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Mississippi tacos.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, they were delicious.

[PFT Commenter]

And then during the game.

[Brandon Walker]

That was during the game.

[PFT Commenter]

What happened at the end of the game?

[Brandon Walker]

We were up 17 with 9 minutes and 37 seconds left. I remember looking at the clock and saying, that clock's going a little too slow. And I thought, this game's going to be close at the end. And I didn't know it was all good. It was all well and good. It was 17. Then they cut it to 10. Then they cut to 7 with a field goal, I think. And it's okay. I'm over there taking pictures with. I saw Dwayne Jefferson's dad, Clyde, and Clyde's like, hey, come over here. How's your dad? And I said, he's dead. And then I turn around. As we're having that conversation, I'm delivering to my dad's lifelong friend that my dad's been demonstrating for two years. I turn around, I hear him go, oh, no. And the punt returner for Texas is streaking past us. And I just fell to my knees, and I knew no matter what, I.

[Big Cat]

Got to get down to the end zone.

[Brandon Walker]

Once they tied it, well, it was going to overtime. And I said, which end zones? Overtime. And I said that when I said, well, we got to be down there for whatever happens, break up a play. And I picked the exact spot they threw that route. And when it wasn't arch, it was the backup quarterback. The backup quarterback drops back and turns. And I swear to God, he looks at me and he turns that ball loose. And I think he is throwing that directly to me. And I At the time, I don't think the receiver had even making his. Made his break yet. And I was like, there's no way that ball is going out of bounds. And the guy just comes out of nowhere. And as soon as it touched his hands, I knew, I knew he called it.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you think about breaking the play up?

[Brandon Walker]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

You could have made a play.

[Brandon Walker]

46 year old Brandon Walker getting arrested for. For hitting also. If I try to hit him, he kills me. Yeah, he just like goes through me like tinfoil.

[PFT Commenter]

Just high point the ball. You go out there, maybe you.

[Brandon Walker]

So I go for the ball, not hit. So you're not saying separate the man from the ball. You're saying go get the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm saying go get that ball. Make a play.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't know that I had the leaping ability or the inclination or the. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Did you still have boiled peanuts on your breath?

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, I had paint.

[Big Cat]

So at least you had that, Dan.

[Brandon Walker]

I had peanuts in my pocket.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I love that. All right. So Brandon, that by the way, that's the other thing about Texas. I know that we talked about him and I don't think they should be in because they have three losses and I get the Ohio State thing. They went to overtime against Kentucky and ole Mississippi State back to back weeks. Right. Like that.

[Brandon Walker]

They had four road games in the SEC, a loss to 4 and 8 Florida, a blowout loss in Athens, two overtime games in Lexington. Starkville. Right. That's not a playoff team.

[Big Cat]

And they also played like when they're like, oh, we shouldn't schedule anyone. There are other three games that they played that weren't. Ohio State were no.

[Brandon Walker]

1. They were no.

[Big Cat]

1.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. And they were. They were average and they spent six weeks being an average team.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Brandon Walker]

They took them a while. Now they're better now and they're greatly positioned to go into next year with Arch as being way better than he was. He has developed like an actual quarterback usually does. So. So I think they're in a great position going forward. But who. Do they have enough room at the end right now? What?

[Big Cat]

Who do they play week one?

[Brandon Walker]

I don't think they return Ohio State do they don't.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't know if it's a. I don't know if it's a true home at home. A back to back years. They might open with Ohio State at home.

[Big Cat]

That would be very funny after all.

[Brandon Walker]

But I think that's a. It's one of those with a no gap in Them.

[Big Cat]

It's not. Yeah, it's not Ohio State.

[PFT Commenter]

Who do they have?

[Big Cat]

Oh, they do. They do have Ohio State.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay, well, there are two. So they open with a nobody.

[Big Cat]

They open with Texas State and then they play Ohio State.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, but I think they'll be pretty positioned to do well in that game also.

[Big Cat]

If you win that game, like, if they won that game, guess what the Florida loss means Nothing.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, real quick. Are you a little upset that you spent. You know, because we do the college football show together. That was the other part of our years that we were surrounded by Dave, Big Ev and Casey, and it was Mississippi State and Wisconsin, and we were just like, all right, we'll talk about all the other games, but are you a little upset? You spent three, four years being Buckeye Brandon, then you went to Penn State, and then Ohio State finally embarrassed Michigan and they embarrassed Michigan. Michigan acted a fool. The fact that Michigan defended their logo, it was one of the lamest things.

[Brandon Walker]

I' the most pathetic thing I've ever. They spent.

[Big Cat]

They had to have talked about it while the game was still going on, maybe even halftime. Yeah. So do you have a little bit of remorse there? And also, would you like to say which we asked you, I think in September, We've been saying it for a long time. Have we not Pft. This Ohio State team's better than last year's.

[Brandon Walker]

So that. That's the fallacy of Dave Portnoy being around Dave Portnoy. I was never a Buckeye Brandon. I was never. I was simply anti Michigan. During the entire run, I was simply anti. When Everybody was saying J.J. mcCarthy's the best quarterback in the world, I was like, no, he's not. They're not even asking him to throw. He's just handing off all the time. I'm not going to participate in this fiction that JJ McCarthy is Joe Montana.

[PFT Commenter]

JJ McCarthy was really good when they asked him to hand the ball off.

[Brandon Walker]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Did you see Max.

[Brandon Walker]

200 yards in that season.

[Big Cat]

They need to see Max Brosnan last week. It was awful. Nine looked pretty good. Not really.

[PFT Commenter]

What you saw was the absence of nine.

[Big Cat]

Nine was. Nine is pretty good.

[Brandon Walker]

Picture of Michigan gathering lonely at the. At the. Just desperate for somebody to defend against. I listen while Ohio State goes and celebrates with their fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Respect that. This is what it's about, Brandon. The final.

[Brandon Walker]

What about the growth man that got on his ground to. To got on the ground in front of 100, 000 people to wipe up the. The snow where Brutus had put Ohio.

[PFT Commenter]

Brutus Dotted the eye. This is what college football is about. The score's an afterthought.

[Brandon Walker]

No, the basketball is about. But if you rest you with a.

[PFT Commenter]

Dog, if you can protect your logo after that the game, that's as good as when.

[Big Cat]

So, so that's a grown man. Are you ready to grow, man? Are you ready to admit that Ohio State's better this year?

[Brandon Walker]

They are.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Now could you want to say.

[Brandon Walker]

But I would, I would like to say. I would like to say this.

[Big Cat]

You want to apologize?

[Brandon Walker]

No, but can I just say the point and then we'll see if I'm going to apologize or not. I'm not. I'm not sure if the improvement of Ohio State happened all this year. I think it might have started last year when they lost to Michigan. They took that two or three week break and came into the playoff. And something changed in them right then because they had four straight. They had the most impressive playoff run we will ever see. They had four straight dominations, four straight double digit victories over some legit teams last year. So whatever happened at Michigan, they changed then and now we have the full year manifestation of what they turned into at the end of last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you saying steroids?

[Brandon Walker]

No, I'm just saying. Ryan Day lock the fuck in. Ohio State locked the fuck in.

[Big Cat]

Julian saying is way better than Will.

[Brandon Walker]

They've won. Saying is better. The defense is just as good and that's the bigger shot because they lost so many good defensive players. But you know, Arvell Reese turning into Superman, Caleb Downs being Caleb Downs and then the, the defensive line just, you know, throwing four or five guys out last year to the NFL and then just bringing in four or five new guys are going to go to the NFL. It's just incredible.

[Big Cat]

So he's taking the defensive coordinator.

[Brandon Walker]

They lost Jim Knowles to Penn State and we're like oh my goodness. Ohio State just lost their, both their coordinators and they upgraded.

[PFT Commenter]

Matt Patricia, that was actually the real winner of this entire off season. Matt Patricia.

[Brandon Walker]

I would agree with that for, for.

[PFT Commenter]

Saying no thank you to unc. I'll go to Ohio State.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you take Ohio State or the field?

[Brandon Walker]

Ohio State? Yeah, I think there's legitimately and I.

[Big Cat]

Think they'll be tested.

[Brandon Walker]

I think Georgia could test them. I think Notre Dame, if they were given the opportunity could test them. I, Texas Tech is the big wild card here. Defensively they definitely can, can, can slow down saying and they can put some pressure on them but I don't know if they're going to be able to. I don't know what Baron Morton's doing against that Ohio State defense. So I think there's probably three to four teams that can beat them, but it would take perfect.

[Big Cat]

I also. I also think there is. I do subscribe to the theory that Ohio State has not gone into like the ultimate gear that they have.

[Brandon Walker]

No. But they also haven't been dragged into deep water at all.

[Big Cat]

Of course they haven't had first quarter. Was that. Would that. But that was like a spot where Ryan Day was probably clenching.

[Brandon Walker]

But the second Michigan took out there, took out their gun in the first five minutes and shot it and barely pierced the skin of Ohio State when they only scored six points.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

In the first after having the ball down there twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

That game was over.

[PFT Commenter]

What's up with the headbutting with the official? Did we get a clarification on it after the game?

[Brandon Walker]

I'm guessing the official just decided in his heart of hearts. The guy was. I believe the Michigan player was trying to say, this is what they're doing to me, man. They're doing this. And I think he knew there was no intent or malice. And that's why. Because usually that's getting you kicked out every time. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The official had a very funny reaction when it happened. He did the thing that refs do where they like very angrily reach down for their flag and then they blow their whistle super hard. And then it seemed like cooler heads prevailed a little bit. It just seemed like. I mean, if you headbutt a ref.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. It's.

[PFT Commenter]

He used to always get kicked out for that.

[Brandon Walker]

I feel like his touch a ref. I feel like that ref's walk to the other refs calmed him down.

[PFT Commenter]

Now I think the other refs might have gotten mad at him after the game. Like you said, a bad precedent here.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, they're going to be headbutting us all day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Stand up for yourself.

[Big Cat]

Cole Knipple.

[Brandon Walker]

What would be your. Would you have a signature flag toss? Do you think the best flag toss is taking it out and throwing it down? You think as much.

[Big Cat]

I go through my legs.

[Brandon Walker]

Go through your legs.

[PFT Commenter]

I go Gronk Spike just down at the ground.

[Brandon Walker]

I think throwing it 75ft in the air and just. And just waiting for it to fall before you even blow your whistles?

[Big Cat]

I also would like. We saw that ref we were talking about on Monday, show the ref trying to grab his flag and couldn't get it. I would keep it cocked at all times. I wouldn't have it in my pocket I'd have it in my hand.

[Brandon Walker]

New rule. If you can't get your flag out on the first two times, it's not a penalty.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I agree. Can't, can't pump fake on it. Did you ever look at ref's hands and how they have their whistle and the little bands around the middle there? You know what that's for?

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how they keep track of the down.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, they put it. Oh, yeah. First down, second down, third down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Why can't they just look at the sign?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. It's just a time honored thing. Some things are just tradition.

[Brandon Walker]

That Colorado, that would, I, I would lose my place all the time.

[Big Cat]

Well, you struggle with.

[PFT Commenter]

You also have fat fingers.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't have fat. That's, I don't have, I have skinny fingers.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, you know what? You kind of do.

[Brandon Walker]

I, I have skinny fingers. I have skinny appendages.

[Big Cat]

You have a fat.

[Brandon Walker]

I have a narrow. I, I, I have skinny appendages. I have narrow toes, narrow fingers and a narrow nose. Too's a number two.

[Big Cat]

Big fat, branded. Okay, Brandon, last question. Roback question rhop.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take what is. Let's play out the doomsday scenario for the committee and how you would, how you would seed them or put them in. So Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A and M, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss.

[Brandon Walker]

That's the seven.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the seven. What's the doomsday scenario this coming weekend? And then who gets it? The doomsday scenario has to start with Duke beating Virginia.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, Duke beating Virginia is, is crazy. You know, it's Alabama losing and BYU winning.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Because BYU winning now puts Texas Tech on the chopping block. I think they would much rather have BYU on the chopping block with two losses because there's a lot more clarity there.

[PFT Commenter]

BYU wins, but, but Sataki takes the Penn State job.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, my goodness. You realize how many teams we might have in this playoff with, with new coaches, with interim coaches?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, all right, so let's say this happens. Let's say Duke beats Virginia.

[Brandon Walker]

But can I, can I ask a question? Is Duke winning doomsday scenario?

[Big Cat]

Because they might sneak Duke in.

[Brandon Walker]

Duke winning forces either two G5s.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

Or it forces Duke in. But if Duke, if Duke doesn't, if Duke doesn't win, it's just Virginia. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

So we're getting doomsday scenario for the ACC. We're getting a G5 team and an undeserving ACC champ or two G5 teams.

[Big Cat]

Yes, yes.

[Brandon Walker]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't. You. You can get to this in the doomsday. I don't think that they'd put Duke in. I think that would be asking a lot.

[Brandon Walker]

You think they put both Tulane and jmu?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they would. Because Duke, I mean, come on, two.

[Brandon Walker]

Lane without a coach.

[Big Cat]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

All right, so here's the dude.

[PFT Commenter]

So are you. And T. I think UNT actually jumps JMU if they beat Lane.

[Big Cat]

So. So BYU wins, Alabama wins.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's a doomsday scenario.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Because I think it puts Texas Tech on the chopping block and they have a better. I think they have a better look to them than BYU does. I feel like the committee, if BYU loses, can go into that room. If they just, if they so choose, can lose byu, no problem. Now the scariest spot for this committee to be in, no matter who gets in, Oklahoma. If it comes down to spot number 12, Notre Dame or Miami, one's getting in, one's not getting in. I believe the committee thinks Notre Dame is a better team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So actually that's not BYU and Alabama winning is not the doomsday. Because then it would just be Oklahoma, Alabama, byu. And they'd keep Notre Dame and Miami out.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. So. So their, their doomsday is. Comes when they have to choose between. Correct. So it's actually they get them both in great. If they can get them both out, great.

[Big Cat]

It's more Alabama winning, BYU losing. And then it would be between Notre Dame and Miami for that last.

[Brandon Walker]

So then it becomes between byu, Miami and Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but BYU would say they're out and then becomes.

[Brandon Walker]

And I truly think the committee, if you had gave them true serum, who's the better team? They would say Notre Dame. I think they would be beholden to put Miami in.

[Big Cat]

They would have to.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You played the game.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Because they would be setting themselves up for a future of agony of every time something like this comes up, you.

[Big Cat]

Know it's going to 16.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, but.

[Big Cat]

Because that's what they do.

[Brandon Walker]

But it's just. Then we're just going to have different discussions.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And at this point, if you don't, if you don't make it, it's on you.

[Brandon Walker]

It's on you. It's like Texas, it's on you. But listen, 8:12, whatever. Last year we had a 12 team playoff. We did not have enough good teams for 12 this year this year we got 15, we got 16. It's. There's not a perfect number and you just got to deal with it. However, you're going to deal with it every year. That's why this committee is going to get a lot of money. You're going to have to make some hard decisions. Dude, just fucking do it.

[Big Cat]

Is there a way that they, they, they kick out Oklahoma?

[Brandon Walker]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

They keep Notre Dame and Miami.

[Brandon Walker]

If Oklahoma hadn't beat Alabama. Yes, but that Alabama win is doing a lot of work for Oklahoma. That Alabama road wins. Doing a lot of work.

[PFT Commenter]

Alabama loses.

[Big Cat]

Look at Brandon talking about Oklahoma again.

[PFT Commenter]

That win gets worse.

[Max Memes]

Max, I didn't do anything. Why are you looking at me?

[Brandon Walker]

He asked me about Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

There can't stop.

[Max Memes]

Yeah, you were talking about. You were talking. You opened the entire door of every Oklahoma from here on out.

[Big Cat]

If you brought him up.

[Brandon Walker]

There's not a world you can about the 12.

[Big Cat]

It's still the same Oklahoma that you brought up the first time.

[Brandon Walker]

But there's not. There's not a world. You talk about the 12 team playoff without talking about Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

I just.

[PFT Commenter]

We're still talking about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we've done it.

[Brandon Walker]

Can I ask you one crazy hypothetical and I want to take my bias out and just ask you guys.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I know where you go.

[Brandon Walker]

Is there any world there's a gonna be, like I said, 15 teams for 12 spots. Do they have a discussion about Ole Miss? About not having their offensive coaching staff? About not having Lane Kiffin? I personally don't think they do. But is. Is that a world nobody trying to make?

[Big Cat]

I bet you there's one guy in this room who's going to be like, hey, should we talk about this? And then they'd be like, nah, okay. That will probably be the extent of it.

[Brandon Walker]

If we blew it. If we, if we. They killed us on Friday. If we beat OMS 10 and 2. Ole Miss without a coach is not getting the playoff. They would be on the chopping block. Yeah, but at 11:1 they've got the, they've got enough leeway where they're going to be.

[PFT Commenter]

You had your chance.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You blew it.

[Brandon Walker]

We didn't blow it. They just killed it.

[PFT Commenter]

Somebody might bring it up inside that room.

[Brandon Walker]

Everything.

[PFT Commenter]

They understand that they, if, if they do that, then the entire premise of having a college football player.

[Brandon Walker]

I also don't think what you're about to say is disingenuous.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Brandon Walker]

Well, all right.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what I was about to say. That Ole Miss beat Oklahoma So you couldn't.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, fair enough. Fair enough. But I think the people saying, well, they kept Florida State out. That was a four team playoff. Yeah. No, these are not con. These are not consorting.

[Big Cat]

Quarterback. I think if Ole Miss lost their starting quarterback, I think they would probably.

[Brandon Walker]

Have the discussion they're gonna lose the starting quarterback as soon as their game ends because he's just. Lane's gonna call him. Oh, imagine if they might send the plane back.

[Big Cat]

Imagine if Lane got Chambliss out before the playoff committee.

[Brandon Walker]

That'd be amazing.

[Big Cat]

Like this week he got him out. Imagine he wouldn't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

He wants that money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't.

[Brandon Walker]

What if LSU paid him $2 million to get Chamblas?

[PFT Commenter]

$2 million for, for a starting quarterback.

[Big Cat]

If I were Lane Kiffin in Lane Kiffin shoes right now, I would. I would say before, I would take Chambliss.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right now. And then I would say I'm. I'm going to donate any extra bonuses I get from Ole Miss winning in the playoffs.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes. And I'm going to donate it to the children's hospital in Baton Rouge. So that just circles back to my team.

[PFT Commenter]

Anyway, I'll donate the winnings to some. Some disadvantaged youth out there.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That happen to be five star recruits.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Well, they've done that before and everything about them is okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I love lsu.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Somebody else.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you talk about Ole Miss again.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. They once recruited a five star. But adopting him and then making a movie about it and it was all fake. It was all higher thing was fake. No, no, I'm not. I'm talking. I've never seen the movie, but it was. It was all fake.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, so you've never seen the movie, but you know it's fake?

[Big Cat]

I've read the book.

[Brandon Walker]

The. The actual play. The guy involved texted me and said, this is all.

[Big Cat]

He sent that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

To me.

[PFT Commenter]

Nah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ben Mintz.

[Brandon Walker]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Michael Orr, huh?

[Brandon Walker]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Brandon, it's been a delight having you on the show.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't always.

[PFT Commenter]

We love having.

[Brandon Walker]

Is this my last time?

[Big Cat]

Big fat Brandon?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I don't think you're going to be the college football expert anymore.

[Brandon Walker]

That didn't do anything for me.

[Big Cat]

Everyone, everyone in the chat, fat cocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Pull up that spreadsheet.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

What can they do.

[Big Cat]

Eggplants in the chat for?

[PFT Commenter]

Brandon got fat cock.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see the spreadsheet again. Okay. So you still have.

[Brandon Walker]

No, I'm done. There's nothing I can do.

[PFT Commenter]

You got Texas, his Oregon and Oregon.

[Brandon Walker]

I Got Oregon. Yeah, it was a, it was a bad effort.

[PFT Commenter]

So what went wrong?

[Brandon Walker]

What are you doing different?

[PFT Commenter]

Next?

[Big Cat]

Crazy.

[Brandon Walker]

There's like four or five teams.

[PFT Commenter]

What lessons have you learned? Because you've been wrong a lot this year.

[Brandon Walker]

Not really.

[PFT Commenter]

Between this spreadsheet, no more so than any other year. And Lane Kiffin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, no, Oklahoma. Ole Miss.

[Brandon Walker]

I was never gonna pick.

[Max Memes]

I'm keeping Texas as empty for you. And that's, that's generous. I'm being generous.

[Big Cat]

Very nice.

[Brandon Walker]

No, they're not in. You can make that red. You don't have to.

[Max Memes]

They're. They're in the conversation.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're having the conversation. Also, Brandon, what if the committee just said, you know what, Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss, that's a problem, Link. Lane is a great coach. You said yourself, Brandon, one of the top five coaches in, in football. What if they put LSU in because now they have Lane Kiffin.

[Big Cat]

What was I. I don't know.

[Brandon Walker]

I picked lsu, Penn State. I believed in Penn State. That was wrong. Boise State, you know, whatever.

[Big Cat]

It's actually funny too because Tom picked the team you believed in the most. Most in Clemson.

[Brandon Walker]

No, I believed in Penn State the most. I had Penn State picked as your.

[Big Cat]

Your four. Your four finalists this year before the season were Penn State, Clemson, LSU and Arizona State. I don't know if I made that last.

[Brandon Walker]

But yeah, I was, I was, I, I wasn't big on Arizona State because I knew we were going to beat them. So I, I don't know about that one.

[PFT Commenter]

One last, last question.

[Brandon Walker]

How many last questions?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, this is the last, last one.

[Brandon Walker]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Michigan.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

They were number one on your list of fan bases.

[Hank]

You don't like.

[PFT Commenter]

It felt like that was just mostly about Dave Portnoy.

[Brandon Walker]

It is.

[PFT Commenter]

What are they going to do with their coaching situation?

[Brandon Walker]

They're so, you know, there's, there's a lot of stuff out there. I personally choose not to believe it because if it were, if it were that big of a deal, it would have already happened. I think they're going to go into next season with a lame duck coach, a bad coach. They are poorly coached football team for 2025. I think fundamentally and you know, they have a good approach and if they have this, that they have the talent advantage on a team, they're going to beat them. But when they're up against these Ohio states of the world, these high scoring offenses in 2025, they just, they're going to a gunfight with a knife. They just can't do it. And Sharon Moore is. They're wasting their time with Sharon Moore as a head coach. And they wasted their money on Bryce Underwood. $12 million to never even try to develop the kid into a passer. They never even gave him a chance this year. If you're going to throw a young guy out there, let him chunk it down the field, make his mistakes. They didn't even let him do it.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I'd like to see.

[Brandon Walker]

What would you like to see?

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like to see John Harbaugh.

[Brandon Walker]

John Harbaugh.

[PFT Commenter]

John Harbaugh.

[Brandon Walker]

John Harbaugh at Michigan. John Harbaugh continuing the.

[PFT Commenter]

Harbaugh continuing the. The lineage.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Charlie Weiss is returning to Ole Miss as offensive coordinator to coach the playoffs. So there goes that discussion. They didn't lose their offensive coordinator, Charlie Weiss.

[Brandon Walker]

What do we do? That is Junior. Nobody knows who that is.

[Big Cat]

I'm still mad at you, though, because you kept Bill Glasscock. Like, why?

[Brandon Walker]

I didn't know. You want to know about Bill Glasscock?

[Big Cat]

I mean, the guy's name is Glasscock. How do you not tell us that?

[Brandon Walker]

Billy Glasscock. He's the. He's the key to Lane Kiff's success. Glasscock.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. He's just right hand man.

[Big Cat]

How weird is Scott Strickland? If you weird out Lane Kiffin, you're a weird dude.

[Brandon Walker]

No. Why again, are we believing everything Elaine Kiffin says? I choose to believe Kiffin's a weird guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Believe all lanes.

[Brandon Walker]

Fake the dog, Dan.

[Big Cat]

Believe all lanes.

[Brandon Walker]

I believe Scott Strickland has a dog. And it is his. It is his dog. Scott Strickland, a normal guy. Not a very good athletic director, but he's a normal guy.

[Big Cat]

He weirded out Lane Kiffin. That's weird. I believe all lanes. All right, Brandon Walker, our college football expert for another month and a half.

[Brandon Walker]

Farewell. Farewell.

[Big Cat]

We'll have you on right before to. To hand over your trophy and your belt and everything to the city. Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

All right.

[Big Cat]

You'll get it all.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, FAQ's time wrap up the show. Henry.

[Hank]

Who is an athlete you would die on a hill for. For example, I'll always defend Joe Kim Noah despite people not liking his jump shot slash free throw ability.

[Big Cat]

Joe Keem's high up there. Schwaber.

[PFT Commenter]

Where's he gonna go?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

This feels like a Reds Cincinnati.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He wants people to. Yeah, he wants to be courted. I don't blame him.

[Big Cat]

But I was, I was big on dying on a hill and Schwarber, because he was. His defense was not great when he started. This was before the dh so I was big time. It's fine. It doesn't matter the way he hits bombs. You can deal with the defense. So like had to do a lot of defending of that that I would.

[PFT Commenter]

Say Drake may Drake. You die on a hill for Drake.

[Big Cat]

But I think they were asking for someone who has like a flaw in their game. Oh, can't throw 300. 300.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a big time flaw.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very brave of you.

[Hank]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

You must get a lot of for that. Yeah, I would say, I mean Tom Wilson. Tom Wilson. I, I die on several hills for him every year. I do think that he is targeted by the NHL. I think he's targeted by refs. I think that any other team in, in hockey would kill to have Tom Wilson play for them because he's not only just like a bruiser and a mountain of a dude, but he's very skilled, can score goals. One of the best goal scorers in the league. I love this league. Future face of this league. Yeah, I loved it when he broke his cheek and he scored two goals looking like he had. He had the mumps. And then that was the same day that Joel Embiid was out for like, like three months because he broke his face. That was, that was a perfect day for me.

[Big Cat]

What do you guys pick?

[Brandon Walker]

Embiid.

[Max Memes]

Embiid's the easy answer. My favorite answer though. People don't remember Hot in the streets when I was, when I was, you know, like 13, people hated Ryan Howard because they thought that he struck out too much. And I was a big die on my hill for Ryan Howard and I thought he got way too much hate in Philly.

[Big Cat]

I was like that with Javi Baez too, because he struck out a lot and couldn't and yeah, he struck out a lot.

[Max Memes]

Ryan Howard shook out a lot too. But I fucking love Ryan Howard. And if you look back at some of Ryan Howard seasons, he just, he just had video game stats.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Zach Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Chad Pennington.

[Big Cat]

Oh, noodle arm elite. He was. I mean he was a good quarterback. Noodle arm elite. But the noodle arm no he's sling it well. But he didn't his arm, he's. He was good. Who, who could throw for doing it? Right now we're doing the argument.

[PFT Commenter]

Chad Pennington or Tua?

[Brandon Walker]

Tua.

[PFT Commenter]

You think Tua could. Could outgun him?

[Big Cat]

I think you could outcome him.

[PFT Commenter]

No way. We need to settle this.

[Big Cat]

Didn't chat Pennington get hurt and that's why his arm like that was zapped.

[PFT Commenter]

He never had like the strongest arm and he had. Yeah, bad shoulder and that. That made it worse. Also put this in in the bookmarks Hank for Friday's show. Tua at the jets on Sunday in the cold two fingers. It's gonna be. It's gonna be chilly in New York and he's 0 and 7 in his career below 46 degrees.

[Hank]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's just, let's just remember to talk about that.

[Big Cat]

Also.

[Hank]

I just also reminded me of my Michael Irvine. Did you guys see his. His tweet about the big hit last night? Yeah, that was what he said all time. Michael Irving.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the one. It was cold.

[Hank]

No, the big hit you just saw in the game between the Patriots and the Giants are the kind of hits all caps we had to take on every damn play. Just trying to enlighten the young NFL fans who never saw passes caught C o u g h t where great pain lived. Every pass Caught where great pain lived.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love this. I love this because, yeah, the game was, the game was pretty violent back then. It's pretty violent now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it was more violent for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Every damn play that there would be hit like that. Every play.

[Big Cat]

I still laugh every now like probably once a month. I just think about the random jets fan giving. Showing two of fingers to Jake.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, just.

[Big Cat]

Just being so beaten, like shook up about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Shattered his innocence.

[Hank]

Okay, what's up, big Cat and pft? Would you all take it if the Bears and commanders played every year? Winner always makes the NFC title game. Loser season always becomes a disaster.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, I mean, that would be kind of cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely. Making the NFC championship game is awesome. I, I listen, if you had asked me before that draft, would you take one NFC championship game in the next five years? I would be like, yeah, the, the old, the amount of misery that we've had rooting for our shitty franchises, it, it makes you compromise on a lot of stuff and your expectations are very low. So, yes, I would 100 take that.

[Big Cat]

The only, the only thing I would not take is we'd. It have to change when, when the game is played. Every single. Like, it can't just be like week three. I would want there to be a.

[PFT Commenter]

Little bit more leeway where we both have some belief. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like if, if it goes year, but year to year, you. You don't play at the same time every single year. So there's some years where it's like, okay, we would play week one and the season would be over for one of us. Some years we play week. Week 16 and we just have belief the whole way.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanksgiving.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do it on Thanksgiving every year. I'd be okay with that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

In a hypothetical world, you have to pick one team in any sport to all root for together. As a podcast, which team would it be?

[Big Cat]

We should do this. That'd be funny. If we picked, like, if we just became a huge Columbus blue jacket, I don't know what would be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, like, we could just do that with the MLS and not even care about it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we could do that with the mls. Should we?

[Hank]

The Water Dogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, good point, good point.

[Big Cat]

You guys want to do Premier League? Nah, nah, nah, that's too early.

[PFT Commenter]

Too many games. I'm trying to really understand the table.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we could do. Pull up MLS teams real quick. Let's pick an MLS team that we're going to just ride for. Yeah, the whole squad. Do we just ride Inter Miami? Because they, they just get every Guy.

[PFT Commenter]

At the end of their career.

[Brandon Walker]

Let's just play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Let's just become the biggest fans of this team. All right.

[Max Memes]

There are way more MLS teams.

[Big Cat]

Holy shit. Holy fuck. That's so many teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. What's the. What's the most random city that they have in there? Charlotte.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We could do Charlotte.

[PFT Commenter]

What are they.

[Max Memes]

We're not going to do this. Let's not pretend.

[Big Cat]

We're just going to say it. Just. What about Colorado? It'd be nice to be able to.

[PFT Commenter]

Go to Colorado or San Diego.

[Big Cat]

San Diego.

[Hank]

Yes. There's a San Diego.

[Max Memes]

San Diego. San Diego. Yeah. San Diego fc. I'm in on San Diego.

[Big Cat]

We're the biggest San Diego FC guys in the world.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all.

[Max Memes]

They talked enough about the union. I don't.

[Big Cat]

I don't care.

[PFT Commenter]

That's right.

[Big Cat]

When they come play in Chicago next year, we gotta go.

[Hank]

I think we should go there, show ourselves support.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree with Hank.

[Hank]

You know, be one with San Diego pitch.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to feel that grass under your feet.

[Hank]

Yeah. Love that. Love the fc.

[Big Cat]

Most.

[Hank]

Least original game of all.

[Max Memes]

I cannot believe that there's this many. This many.

[Hank]

How many FCs are there?

[Big Cat]

There's so many.

[Hank]

Throw up. Pick a logo.

[Big Cat]

I agree. Well, they have load and they have scs, too. Yeah. Which is crazy.

[Hank]

So dumb.

[Big Cat]

It's just. It's also just football. Yeah, but. But, like, why are we trying to be like England? Like, why are we doing fc? Just pick a name.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, with it. Real Salt Lake.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're in Utah.

[Max Memes]

How come you're not.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not in Madrid.

[Max Memes]

Some of them say FC and some of them say football club. What there's got. It just got to be one or the other.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I kind of like Orlando City.

[PFT Commenter]

Orlando City. What are they called?

[Big Cat]

We go to the Chili's.

[PFT Commenter]

They're just gone. Orlando City. A lot of golf in Orlando.

[Big Cat]

Orlando City might be. I think we go Orlando.

[Hank]

I'm golfing in Orlando in February.

[Big Cat]

I mean, cheaper. Cheaper flights. Orlando City should do it. Let's see the logo for Orlando City real quick. Give me Orlando.

[Max Memes]

Even know where that is? Oh, here.

[Big Cat]

Click on them.

[PFT Commenter]

Florida.

[Max Memes]

I can't see.

[Brandon Walker]

We're gonna go. Logo.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna go.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a.

[Brandon Walker]

Cool.

[Big Cat]

Okay, now show us San Diego's. I kind of like Orlando. What's the logo? Oh, sick.

[Max Memes]

It's like you hate San Diego.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. San Diego looks kind of like a butthole.

[Big Cat]

All right. It's just not. If it's.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that.

[Big Cat]

If it's odd, we're doing San Diego. If it's even, we're doing Orlando.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, these are two, like, blob, impenetrable.

[Big Cat]

Cities, safety from the blob, even Orlando FC guys.

[Max Memes]

Why did you see it? What kept lighting up right there?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, signs. What is.

[Max Memes]

It was like an LED light. Strange going on.

[Big Cat]

That's cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Does Orlando one camera?

[Big Cat]

I don't think Orlando's won anything. I feel like we would.

[Brandon Walker]

It's called a reflection.

[Big Cat]

All right, do we have any others after we. Oh, it's the same owners as the Vikings.

[Max Memes]

Did we have that?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the Wolfs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Wolfs.

[Hank]

We can end on that.

[Big Cat]

Okay, well, let's wait.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there another one that you don't want to read, Hank?

[Hank]

They're not great.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's just see. Let's see if we've ever won anything, us Orlando FC guys.

[Hank]

I guess this is a book pull. Like, what's going on? As an awl that joined after the move to Chicago, I'd love to hear more about the backstory of the change to the new office and how that all went down.

[Big Cat]

Book, book, book.

[PFT Commenter]

It'll be all in the book.

[Big Cat]

Book.

[Hank]

Also doc on YouTube. But book.

[PFT Commenter]

But book. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait.

[PFT Commenter]

We held back on the dock for the book.

[Big Cat]

Kingston is our mascot.

[Hank]

Sean Kingston.

[Brandon Walker]

He's got.

[Big Cat]

He's a. He's an anthro. How do you say that word?

[PFT Commenter]

Anthropomorphic anthropologist.

[Big Cat]

Anthropomorphized and bulked up lion, complete with brown and purple dreadlocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, that rocks.

[Big Cat]

I. Dude, I'm in on the Orlando FC combination. It.

[PFT Commenter]

Disqualification.

[Big Cat]

I do not think we've ever won anything. I don't think we've ever won anything. Which is good.

[PFT Commenter]

That's my pft. Tip of the day. If you ever just want to have fun saying a word, say disqualification. Jamaican accent. You won't regret it.

[Big Cat]

Disqualification.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, see? Disqualification.

[Big Cat]

Okay, hold on.

[PFT Commenter]

Take it for a spin.

[Max Memes]

Disqualification.

[Hank]

Pft.

[Max Memes]

And we've actually had this conversation before, which is not shocking.

[Hank]

No, it's like I can get. I just have to say combination, and then pft automatically falls up with disqualification.

[PFT Commenter]

That's my version of.

[Big Cat]

I do not think we've ever won the whole thing.

[Max Memes]

This is too much MLS talk. I'm over it already.

[Big Cat]

No, we have won the whole thing.

[Hank]

Sports podcast.

[Big Cat]

We've won the whole thing. 2022.

[Max Memes]

Yeah, we're really hitting all the stops today. PLL. We've hit it.

[PFT Commenter]

Orlando.

[Hank]

NBA, NFL, MLB.

[Big Cat]

We hit them all. All right.

[Hank]

We're NHL.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

The numbers three.

[Big Cat]

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[Brandon Walker]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

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[Brandon Walker]

Numbers.

[Max Memes]

22, 100.

[Big Cat]

Disqualification.

[Brandon Walker]

15, 11, 99.

[PFT Commenter]

Pug 44, 8, 37.

[Big Cat]

88.

[PFT Commenter]

Stupider, buddy.

[Hank]

No 1/4 of the way there.

[Brandon Walker]

For what?

[Big Cat]

Good math, Hank.

[Hank]

22.

[Big Cat]

Good math.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you were?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to do another one?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we'll do one more. Same numbers.

[Brandon Walker]

Say your number again.

[Hank]

15, 20.

[PFT Commenter]

111, 37, 44. 8, 99.

[Big Cat]

Oh. 19.

[Brandon Walker]

79.

[PFT Commenter]

79, 79. Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Golf season is in full swing and.

[Brandon Walker]

Getting out there to work on your.

[Big Cat]

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