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Dan Katz
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PFT Commenter
The round mound of rebound. Yeah, he was incredible. He was as advertised.
Dan Katz
Yeah. So really, really good interview. We're gonna do the Mount Rushmore of words and start with G for grit. But grit is not allowed to be picked. We're going to talk about the weekend. Hank's got a UFC recap. We have training camp. Terry might be a camp holding in. And then we're going to finish the show with a review of Happy Gilmore 2 because everyone's talking about it. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Get in the game. Best ball is live at DraftKings. 15 million is on the line with real stakes and real excitement. Best Ball is the biggest fantasy contest at DraftKings. We're talking a $15 million guaranteed prize pool with two millionaires being crowned for first and second place. Play season long Fantasy football the Draft Kings way With Best Ball. There's no waiver wire, no roster management. You get bigger rosters so injuries won't end your season. Just draft your team and you're set. If a shot at winning a share of $15 million isn't enough to get you excited, check this out. DraftKings is offering a everyone a draft one get one special. Your 20 entry fee scores you a bonus ticket. Download the DraftKings app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for all customers who enter the NFL. Best ball 15 million millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and Get a shot at being crowned one of two millionaires. Only on DraftKings. It is. The crown is yours and it is the best contest possible. You draft all your players. If they get hurt, doesn't matter. You got backups and they put the best player, the best. So if you have three quarterbacks, whoever performs the best, those are the points for that week. So you basically set it. Forget it. Best ball draftkings. Way to go. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER in New York, call 877-8-HOPE&WY or text HOPE&Y at 467-369 in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org 18 and over in most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction. Eligibility restrictions apply. One per customer. Enter the Best Ball 15 million head contest by 9425 to get one bonus entry, 20 entry fee required. Reward expires in 30 days. See terms@draftkings.com NFL-Ball okay, let's go. Hey.
Max
Patrick.
Dan Katz
Barn and Mike. Yeah. Barn and mite. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Barn and mite.
Dan Katz
Yay.
PFT Commenter
Barn and mite.
Dan Katz
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PFT Commenter
Loving it.
Dan Katz
We're on the RV.
PFT Commenter
The best week of the year.
Dan Katz
We are in a weird setting, piled in here. Max is over my shoulder. I feel like I'm on a sitcom where he's like the guy who's just standing over my shoulder.
PFT Commenter
He's leaning very cutely on the couch, though. Like, he's. He's watching us like, you're doing great, sweetie.
Dan Katz
Stop, stop, stop, stop it.
PFT Commenter
Love Baltimore, though. Love Baltimore City. Went to the inner Harbor. Went down to Pussers.
Dan Katz
Pussers.
PFT Commenter
Pussers Bar. Saw a lot of awl. This is the. The meet and greet that we did today. Had the most babies that I've ever seen.
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
And one. I think one guy said that he has a kid who was born on the day that part of my take debuted.
Dan Katz
Yeah, he's. He didn't bring his kid. He was not. He's nine now.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
And I said that when he. If we do this for another 10 years, we'll hire him as an intern.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
We have to do it. He also.
PFT Commenter
I'd say I'm buying that kid his first beer.
Dan Katz
It was the most. It was very Baltimore. Most babies, most tattoos.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
I think. I think we hit both those boxes.
PFT Commenter
A lot of tattoos, a lot of the pants. The Ravens pants showed up big time today.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
So a lot of Orioles paraphernalia. Orioles sneak. Sneaky. Have, like, the best color scheme in baseball.
Dan Katz
Yes. And logo. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's great being in Baltimore. We're gonna hit some training camps this week. We're on the rv. What are you. What are you giggling about? Are you hitting my shoulder?
Max
I was not giggling.
Dan Katz
I don't like. Max, can you.
Max
I was not.
PFT Commenter
I got. I got eyes on him.
Dan Katz
All right. Because I don't trust him behind me now.
PFT Commenter
I want it.
Dan Katz
Yeah, we're all right. So we're. We're on the bus. We have Charles Barkley, which was so awesome.
PFT Commenter
If you like stories about getting things stuck in your ass. Getting things stuck in your belly button. I mean, it started off hot. And Shout out Zach. Zach was Johnny on the spot for Charles. You'll hear it during the interview. But he. He misplaced something, and Zach picked it up for him.
Dan Katz
Yes.
Hank
I was happy to grab that for him.
Dan Katz
Also, the. The way we got Charles on the show, we shout out biz. He's our guy. Got me a mutual connection that I was able to talk to. And we also did a strategy where we're like, hey, so this was during Tahoe week. We sat on it for two weeks. We wanted to run it, but it was just like, we have to save for Grit week. He's the perfect guy. Pft and I were like, we got to just get in front of Charles Barkley, because once we introduce ourselves, I think he'll do it. And we just went to the high limit room at Harrah's, and it was like a field of dreams thing where he. We just waited there for, like, 15 minutes, and then he just appeared.
PFT Commenter
I think it was even less than 15. I think it was like, five or 10 minutes. He showed up. He started playing blackjack, and he introduced himself to everybody in the room. He's like, hey, I'm Charles. You can call me Chuck.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
To everybody in the room. Great guy. And me and Big Cat both shook his hand. We're like, hey, we did the part of my take podcast we're trying to get you on. And he goes, yeah, let's do it. And then just, like, moved on. And I thought. I was like, I don't know. If he's going to actually do this. But credit to biz Biz also hit me up the day after and wanted to talk to me about what it was like to talk to Charles Barkley. That's how much he. He likes talking to Charles.
Dan Katz
He's like.
PFT Commenter
He's like. So what was it like trying it for your first time?
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
You love it.
Dan Katz
It was.
PFT Commenter
You want some more?
Dan Katz
I want some more. It was like Hunter Biden explaining crack.
PFT Commenter
It was so good.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Crow. So pure.
PFT Commenter
Also, shout out to Zach, because at the meet and greet tonight, we showed up, Zach rolled in a little bit after us, and Zach waited in line outside the meet and greet to get into your own meet and greet. Yeah, well, there was.
Hank
There's also, like, a restaurant situation going on. So you're not sure These people I from at Pushers. Puss's Pussers. Yes. So the line was. You could see it inside. I wasn't sure if it carried outside.
Charles Barkley
I.
Hank
We did confirm that was the line.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
We were sitting inside for, like, 20 minutes, and I just get a text from Zach saying, hey, I'm waiting in line. Yeah, you're part of the show, dude.
Hank
Back, homes.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I. I love the Baltimore accent, too. Of the people that were coming up to us tonight, it's like the hardest to imitate, unless you're from here. But it. It sounds so cool.
Dan Katz
So cool. So, yeah. Awesome. Charles Barkley interview. Grit week. Shout out. Craig, by the way, that's Charles Barkley's friend who I. I did harass him over text and in person, but he came through, so we're excited for the awl. See, that was. We should have had him on years ago. Hopefully we can have him on multiple times because we both. There's few interviews where we walk away, like, smiling ear to ear. That's how I walked away from the Charles Barkley.
PFT Commenter
It was great.
Dan Katz
Smiling ear to ear.
PFT Commenter
And I'll just say this. Charles looks great.
Dan Katz
He does.
PFT Commenter
He looks. He looks skinny.
Dan Katz
He looks really good. Should we talk some sports?
Charles Barkley
Some ball?
PFT Commenter
Let's talk ball.
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
Football's back.
Dan Katz
Football is back.
PFT Commenter
Guys. There's football this week.
Dan Katz
There is football this week. Terry's a camp.
PFT Commenter
He's holding in, so that's a good.
Dan Katz
That's a good thing for you.
PFT Commenter
It's gone from a holdout to a hold in. He is there, but he's on the PUP list because he's got an ankle that he's dealing with.
Charles Barkley
Okay.
PFT Commenter
An ankle that I'm sure is 100% a real injury and not just something that they're using as an excuse. But it sounds like both sides are in agreement. Terry's like, I'll come to camp, but don't make me practice. Give me a bogus injury. So they're both kind of playing ball.
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
Right. That's good.
Dan Katz
My.
PFT Commenter
My mission is when we go down to D.C. i will personally sign Terry McLaren.
Charles Barkley
Okay.
PFT Commenter
I'll personally sign him.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
That's my mission on Tuesday, because we are.
Dan Katz
We're going to be in D.C. we're doing Ravens camp. We're doing commander's camp. We're doing Eagles camp. I just love being in camp. So this is one of those things that it never gets old where we show up to these camps, do interviews, and then there's always, like, maybe 45 minutes where the guys have to set everything up, and PFC and I get to just stand on the grass, just watch and. Just watch and smell, and it's awesome.
PFT Commenter
It's great. Can I share a deep fear that I have?
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
I. I told this to Memes and. And Pug earlier when we're getting ready to. To fly out here. I'm. I've been very nervous about meeting Jaden, about the handshake, about the, like, very first interaction. I've been run. I've been rehearsing it in my mind. I've been running through all the iterations. I'm trying to figure out the perfect things to say to Jaden. It's very. There's a lot going through my head.
Dan Katz
What if he goes pound?
PFT Commenter
I'll have to adapt, even think about it. I'll have to adapt.
Dan Katz
You didn't even think about it.
PFT Commenter
I would be pumped with a pound. Because you can't up a pound.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
And then I wrap his fist in my hand.
Dan Katz
Are you going full dap?
PFT Commenter
My. I'm thinking I'm going to go three step dap.
Dan Katz
Try to hug, or you got to do a hug, half hug.
Zach
I got to want to hug.
PFT Commenter
It depends on how that goes.
Dan Katz
You got a hug.
PFT Commenter
I go three step. That. The clap, the twist, the pop.
Max
You just have to go off his movement. You can't decide any of this.
Dan Katz
Yeah. You also might want to, like, you should send, like, have. Maybe Max goes first, just so you can see. You can get scouted.
PFT Commenter
Max is not allowed to touch.
Dan Katz
Okay, so maybe Hank goes first.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay.
Dan Katz
So you get a scouting report. You're like, all right, he's going this way.
PFT Commenter
Here's what we're doing. But he might see Hank and Get bad vibes and not want me to go first.
Max
What if he goes to shake my hand and I. I have to.
PFT Commenter
He's not going to shake your hand. He's going to see you coming a mile away.
Max
So I. So if he goes to shake my hand, I'm not allowed to. I'm not allowed to shake his hand. I just have to be disrespectful.
PFT Commenter
You can shake his hand if he initiates.
Max
If he initiates.
Dan Katz
You're not allowed to touch him.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, don't touch. Don't touch my.
Max
I'm the one who's saying he's a top five quarter without a doubt, no questions asked.
PFT Commenter
That is true. That's a good point.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
But I. I was thinking about hitting with a. You demand.
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
I respect you. I don't know what to say. Like, I'm telling you, I'm very nervous about this. Huh?
Zach
Was that a duh?
Dan Katz
You said you demand duh, man. Yeah, I don't think so.
PFT Commenter
You the. You the man. That doesn't work.
Dan Katz
You demand is not. You shouldn't go.
Charles Barkley
You demand.
PFT Commenter
What's up with it?
Dan Katz
Just be like, I love you. What's up with it?
Max
Come out of your mouth. You cooling.
Dan Katz
No, just say. You're. Just say. I just whisper really softly. I love you.
PFT Commenter
I honestly thought about just saying I love you.
Dan Katz
Why not?
PFT Commenter
Or I respect you.
Dan Katz
Because if you can. If you can, go with no, don't. Do I respect you? Do I love you? It.
PFT Commenter
Dude, just go full sense.
Dan Katz
He knows who you are.
PFT Commenter
I don't want to scare him off. I want to scare him off.
Dan Katz
Yeah, Just be like, hey, not to be weird, but I love you.
PFT Commenter
I'm gonna have to rehearse this. I brought the 3D goggles to Sim because he likes the 3D thing to simulate in the games. I might just. I'm gonna simulate meeting Jaden Daniels until I get it right.
Dan Katz
Okay. So, yeah, that will. That'll come later this week. Should we talk what's going on with Christian Wilkins?
PFT Commenter
All right, so I got a report on Christian Wilkinson. Okay, so he.
Dan Katz
He got cut from the Raiders.
PFT Commenter
He got cut from the Raiders. And then he has how many millions of dollars in salary? Tons of millions that they already paid him that they're trying to get back. It was his signing, boss. Like 30 something million shitloads of millions. And apparently you can just get that money back if you're a team and you're not happy with how somebody progressed from their injury. But then the report came out today that there Was a, quote, incident with a teammate that led to his release.
Dan Katz
And Christian Wilkins is a very good football player. Also has multiple times on camera put his finger in people's butts.
PFT Commenter
He is a big butt guy.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
So the other.
Dan Katz
Grab Josh Allen's dick once, too.
PFT Commenter
The report was.
Dan Katz
It's all on the field of play. By the way.
PFT Commenter
Sources within the team are being careful and won't leak many details. One says, quote, it was weird. Like a very weird incident. So it sounds like it was a butt incident.
Dan Katz
It sounds like he put his finger.
PFT Commenter
In a butt reading between the cheeks on this. I think it is an asshole incursion.
Charles Barkley
I. I would.
Dan Katz
I would say it feels. It feels like it was a.
PFT Commenter
But so.
Dan Katz
Because he's had. There's like multiple. I was looking below the report and there was just multiple instances of people like college pros. Fingers and butts.
PFT Commenter
Blatant finger in the ass.
Dan Katz
Fingers all up.
PFT Commenter
Checking the prostate Now. Christian Wilkins is a good player. Is he penetrate your butthole and still be loud on the team. Good. I don't think it depends on the price. Like if Aaron Donald stuck his fist.
Dan Katz
You got to be able to handle it.
PFT Commenter
You look the other way.
Dan Katz
It's ever. Yeah. He can do anything. He can put his whole face in your ass. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
But if you're injured, you can't be doing it.
Dan Katz
No, you can't. No. If you're. If you're in the tub, you can't be putting your finger in people's butts.
PFT Commenter
No.
Dan Katz
No. All right. That. That was a story. We also just have varying degrees of this quarterback stinks or this thing, you know. Aaron Rodgers highlights. Caleb Williams highlights. Everyone freaking out. It's still very early in training camp.
PFT Commenter
Yep.
Dan Katz
Remind everyone we also have a very funny just wrinkle that. Well, it's not funny. Matthew Stafford is. Is out for a while because his back. The funny part is Devonte Adams is on the Rams and excited to be on the Rams. And now his quarterback is Jimmy G. And if you remember correctly, he basically was like, I need to get the fuck away from Jimmy G. Yep.
PFT Commenter
He can't quit him.
Dan Katz
So he. The.
Charles Barkley
The.
Dan Katz
The wide receiver Netflix show is just Devonte Adams being like, Jimmy G is trying to get me killed. I need to get out of here. Yeah. And he just went all roads lead back to Jimmy G. I think that.
PFT Commenter
It'S probably Sean McVay and Matt Stafford having a handshake agreement. Matt Stafford being like, I want to play again, but I'm old, so please don't make me play in training camp all the time. And Sean being like, yeah, okay, I understand.
Dan Katz
Yeah, absolutely. It makes perfect sense. Also, Kenny Pickett got a hammy.
PFT Commenter
I saw that. So he drops down to fourth.
Dan Katz
Yeah. The Browns quarterback situation changes a little.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I. Right now I have Flacco number one again on my Cleveland Browns quarterbacks. I think, I think Flacco starts the regular season.
Dan Katz
I would agree. I mean, it doesn't. It's. If Kenny's hurt, they're not going to start dealing.
PFT Commenter
No. Shador. I feel like Shador's in third. Dylan Gabriel's in second.
Dan Katz
Yeah, absolutely.
PFT Commenter
And they're. They would rather have Joe Flacco start and let Dylan Gabriel learn a little bit.
Dan Katz
Yeah, absolutely. All right. Oh, also, Malik Neighbors hated Daniel Jones beyond belief.
PFT Commenter
That was pretty clear.
Dan Katz
He had a interview where he. He was talking about having. It's nice to have a true leader in the locker room over and over. So. And James Winston also is a true leader. He said that he's not an outcome based quarterback. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Which is.
Dan Katz
You think it's like, you basically like. Yeah. If it's an interception, it's like. Was the process correct?
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it' about. It's about getting there. Right. It's. It's about the journey, not the destination.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Zach
I was about to say shout out to there. Couple aws.
Dan Katz
There's two.
Zach
Two awls with. I'm getting their shirts that we apparently sold and probably need to put back on sale.
Dan Katz
Absolutely. Have to.
Zach
Those are hot.
PFT Commenter
What is that a reference to again?
Dan Katz
Go ahead. I'm getting there. You read the tweet. You have to read the tweet.
PFT Commenter
I'll read it. The.
Dan Katz
You know.
PFT Commenter
Do you know what tweet you're looking up?
Hank
I'm searching. Ray Allen.
PFT Commenter
I'm getting there.
Hank
I'm searching it right now.
Dan Katz
While you're looking for it. We've. We've talked some love about Maryland in Baltimore. Can I, can I. I'm just looking through my bookmarks. I don't know why I bookmarked this, but it is funny because we're appropriately in Maryland right now. It's from comeweiser.
PFT Commenter
Okay.
Dan Katz
Is the Twitter account.
PFT Commenter
It's a great new kind of beer.
Dan Katz
Comeweiser, he said. And again, this is all love to Maryland, but this is a funny tweet. I have to read it. Maryland is the most pathetic state shape ever. Like, oh, yeah, no, I don't need a lot of land. I'll just take your scraps. That's fine. I'll take this Area. And I don't need anything else, sorry for bothering you type shit. I'd be embarrassed to be proud to be from Maryland. Yeah, I mean, it is funny when you look at them, they just cut the. They cut the. Out of Maryland. They carved that up.
PFT Commenter
You know what the most cut part of Maryland is? It's on the Eastern shore. When you look at that. And then Delaware takes half the Eastern shore. And then at the bottom. Dude, Virginia' just like, oh, yeah, we got this too. I'm gonna need that. That bottom.
Dan Katz
They got cucks.
PFT Commenter
Like, yeah, okay, whatever you say, Virginia.
Dan Katz
Take your scraps. That's fine. I'll take this ass area. I think they're talking about the western part. Yeah, it is. That's a true ass area in the western part. It's just like a little piece. And it's just such a funny state shape because it's a straight line up top. And then it just. They just got cucked on everything big time.
PFT Commenter
And. And the District of. Of Columbia too. They took that right out of Maryland chair.
Dan Katz
Oh, shut up. Come. All right, ready?
Hank
You want the full thing? Yes, sir. Okay, I got you. It's. I'm getting there. When you masturbate, think about my tongue on your. And switching back and forth from dick to my tongue.
Charles Barkley
Nice.
Hank
That's from Sugar Ray 20. Ray Allen.
PFT Commenter
Great tweet.
Dan Katz
I like how too when you had to find it, it's just a tweet of me tweeting it out. Screech.
PFT Commenter
What was it like when you ran into Ray Allen at Tahoe? Big cat.
Dan Katz
Not. Not really warm. Really? Well, he gave me like a. I was like, hey, we're trying to get you on. Pardon my take. And he was like, oh, cool, I'll. I'll tell my people. And then I texted Josh, our great booker. I was like, hey, I saw Ray Allen. He said that he'd be down to come on. And then he like 20 minutes later, he's like, yes, people just passed again. Yeah, smart move. Yeah, but also not a smart move because kind of like the tennis pod. If Ray Allen came on, the tweet would basically be done. If we joked about it with him.
PFT Commenter
He would kill it.
Dan Katz
He would kill it.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Like, that's the beauty of the show is you could just kill a joke.
PFT Commenter
Like the tennis spot is probably going to have Ray Allen on. They're probably going to get him. I got one more piece of breaking news.
Dan Katz
Okay, breaking moves.
PFT Commenter
Ben Simmons, one of the most sought after free agents on the market, is expected to sign with the Boston Celtics League sources say.
Dan Katz
Oh, wow.
PFT Commenter
As first report on part of my take. Boston has been engaged in pursuit of Simmons since the start of free agency. Sources said. That's the Ari report, Hank.
Zach
Max, I don't think this is.
Max
I don't think this is real.
Dan Katz
Are you saying you don't trust the Ari report?
Max
That is kind of what I'm saying.
PFT Commenter
That sounds anti semitic.
Dan Katz
That's crazy. That is.
Max
He has 15, 000 followers.
Dan Katz
Is this the same guy as material change?
PFT Commenter
No.
Dan Katz
Who's that?
PFT Commenter
That was a different Shams has not.
Max
Said a single thing about.
Dan Katz
I feel like that might be just the same guy. He just popped up. He might. He might have a different Ari. It was reporting NBA news.
PFT Commenter
I don't know. I don't know if it's the same Ari or not because I feel like that Aria will change guy.
Dan Katz
This rules. Just keep swinging, dude. Because he was. He had the worst. What was it? Yeah. Kawhi. So congrats on Ben Simmons.
Zach
I would be excited for Ben Simmons. I don't. I'm. I'm with Max. I don't think this is like 100 different. I think it's. It's probably 25. True. He's just trying to be first.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Zach
But there's four teams interested.
PFT Commenter
Four to six teams per the re report.
Dan Katz
Got it. Hank, while we're. While you have the mic here. UFC report. Yeah.
Zach
A lot of great fights. I have one main takeaway. Sheriff Putin Magomedov is the greatest UFC looking fighter of all time. He looks like an angry leprechaun.
Charles Barkley
Whoa.
Dan Katz
He does. What about the guy's eye? What'd you think about that?
Zach
It's good eye.
Dan Katz
No, it wasn't. Did you not see the guy's eye?
Zach
Which one?
PFT Commenter
His eye was completely.
Zach
Guys, a lot of eyes.
Dan Katz
Show you the guy's eye. It was. It was. It was more than black and blue. It looked like he got. He looked like a tire pump put underneath his eyelid. And it happened almost instantly. You ready for this, Hank?
PFT Commenter
It is a very violent.
Dan Katz
Now, Hank doesn't like violence, but he loves ufc.
Charles Barkley
What?
Dan Katz
Oh, yeah.
Zach
Foul.
Dan Katz
That's pretty crazy. It's also crazy because if you see the actual clip, it happened like he got hit. He went down. By the time he was standing up, you could see it actually blow up. Like in real time. It happened in a matter of seconds.
Charles Barkley
Gross.
Zach
Great fights, though.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Glued to your tv.
Zach
Yeah.
Dan Katz
That's a great recap.
PFT Commenter
Thank you. Yeah. What was it was the atmosphere like Saturday night when you're watching those fights.
Zach
You know, I. I like to wait until the all 22 comes out so I can, you know, get the. Get the view from my eye in the sky. So I wasn't actually watching.
PFT Commenter
That was a trick question. I was trying to trap you into it because it was Saturday during the day.
Charles Barkley
Right.
PFT Commenter
But you still haven't seen it.
Dan Katz
Hank, what about the Red Sox bandwagon train? Can you tell me what happened this week?
Zach
We were beating the Dodgers when we walked into the meet and. Greetings.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Zach
I did not check if, oh, we won, we'd be the Dodgers.
Dan Katz
Yeah, we're. We're good. Yeah. And Aaron Judge is hurt, but not that hurt, but a little hurt to the point that Giancarlo might be warming up to play some outfield, which is so funny.
PFT Commenter
And then Aaron Judge just dhing.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
They're not going to. They're not going to shut him down. Right. He's going to keep hitting.
Dan Katz
They're going to try. I think they're going to wait a week or so to revisit. Okay. But Giancarlo playing the outfield is what we all want.
PFT Commenter
That is what we need.
Max
Yeah.
Dan Katz
We absolutely need that. It also was hall of Fame weekend for Major League Baseball.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. What happened with the Ichiro's speech?
Dan Katz
I don't know.
PFT Commenter
I don't know. I just saw a bunch of clips of it.
Dan Katz
I didn't know it was hall of Fame weekend until CC Sabathia got stuck on the side of the highway.
PFT Commenter
That was it.
Dan Katz
That was like, oh. He was like, anyone going to Cooperstown can help me out. And I was like, oh, it must be hall of Fame weekend.
PFT Commenter
I like that. Ichiro cracks jokes, shares wisdom, and calls out lone voter in National Baseball hall of Fame speech.
Dan Katz
Nice. Also, we had our awl. Nick Kurtz with maybe the greatest game of all time.
PFT Commenter
I'd say probably the best offensive game in baseball history.
Dan Katz
19 total bases, four home runs. Four home runs. Six or six. Eight RBIs or no. How many RBIs did he have? Even more than that. I think he went single. Home run, double. Home run. Home run, home run. Four home runs.
PFT Commenter
Just insane.
Dan Katz
Crazy.
PFT Commenter
We got to hear Dallas Braden on the call. That was nice. Say his name. Was his name again. Say it fast.
Dan Katz
Nick Kurtz.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Okay. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Is that okay?
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's good.
Dan Katz
Why would you say.
PFT Commenter
I like to say Nicholas Kurtz?
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
Just be safe.
Dan Katz
Nick Kurtz.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Just be safe.
Dan Katz
Are you trying to do like a Steve?
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's kind of like It's a little.
Dan Katz
It's not exactly. I don't think. I don't think it's the same.
PFT Commenter
It's close.
Max
You're right. With eight RBIs, by the way.
Dan Katz
Nine. You know, you.
Max
I said you were right.
Dan Katz
Eight. With eight. Yeah, eight. I think you have nine.
Max
I'm looking at it.
PFT Commenter
And he's wrong. He's a rookie, which is crazy. And if you look at how he's been hitting since, like, I think the first month that he was in Major League Baseball wasn't great, but since then, he's, like, the best hitter in Major League Baseball.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
In the entire league.
Dan Katz
Yeah. All right. Do we have anything else before we do? Who's back? And then we'll do Mount Rushmore. All right, let's do it. And then we have Charles Barkley. Awesome interview. Who's Back of the week, brought to you by our friends at Truly. Truly Unruly is the high AL card seltzer that drinks light but parties hard. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. Rules. With 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing. Comes in four fresh flavors. Tropical Twist, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, Strawberry Smash. The Truly hard seltzer taste you love the high alk unrulyness you're looking for. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Get Unruly today with Truly. Truly was the reason we were out there for our meet and greet. So thank you to Truly. I saw a bunch of awls drinking Truly's. Make sure you are drinking your Truly unruly this summer. 8% ABV. Hits hard but still tastes amazing. Official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Get Unruly today with Truly. All right, who's Back of the week?
Zach
I had Nick Kurtz. I had Ben Simmons.
Dan Katz
Oh, man. That's about it.
Zach
Corn sweats.
Dan Katz
Yeah, Corn sweats. Go on. Yeah.
Zach
So it was very hot in Chicago this weekend. Very humid. And apparently that's because of corn sweats.
Dan Katz
That's.
Zach
That's what it's called.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Zach
I love corn. It's basically like the meat sweats, but when it's humid, you can just, you know, blame the corn.
Dan Katz
So it's a hot one.
PFT Commenter
So the corn.
Dan Katz
Really hot.
PFT Commenter
What was it about the corn?
Zach
What is it about it?
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they made it hot in Chicago.
Zach
Corn sweat is crops releasing vapor that soaks the atmosphere and turns the outdoors into a steam trap. So it's basically like, you know.
Dan Katz
Yeah, we're just stuck in our own.
Zach
The corn Turns the earth into a sauna.
PFT Commenter
So it's like a polar vortex steam room, but for corn. It was a cornhole. We were trapped in the cornhole.
Dan Katz
That was a. That was good thinking on your feet.
Zach
Thank you.
PFT Commenter
Nice job, Hank.
Zach
Well, I was thinking about.
Dan Katz
You're sharp right now.
Zach
It's been really hot, and it's like, this can't be normal. And it's like, oh, this must be the corn sweats.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Zach
And, you know, it was.
Dan Katz
I'll tell you what. I. I alluded to it at the beginning of the show, but, like, after Charles Barkley, we're going to do Happy Gilmore to review. And I. I know Hank has some good takes.
PFT Commenter
Very good.
Dan Katz
Some really good.
Zach
Well, yeah, I just know from what. PFT has been spoiled for me. I've been waiting. I've been waiting on it.
Dan Katz
We spoiled it.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. It's not Citizen Kane. I'm not telling you that. Rosebud was the slap.
Dan Katz
You didn't watch it's our homework.
Zach
It was not our homework.
PFT Commenter
I should have been.
Zach
I started watching it, and then.
Dan Katz
So you didn't watch UFC or Happy Gilmore?
Zach
I watched how to Get More one. I watched How We Get More One.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Zach
Greatest movie of all Time.
PFT Commenter
You didn't want to be lost during Happy Gilmore too.
Zach
It came on, and, like, I. You know, I'll watch it eventually, but the. The intro being the exact same. I was like, I just want to watch Happy Gilmore 1. Like, when it started with the same music and voice.
Dan Katz
When did you watch Happy Gilmore 1?
Zach
On Friday night.
Dan Katz
Oh, really?
Max
Wait, wait, wait.
Zach
I started to watch Happy Gimm War 2.
Max
This is insane.
Dan Katz
This is crazy.
Zach
I'm just gonna get. I'm just gonna get mad. I want to just enjoy a movie, and Happy Gilmore 1 is the funniest movie of all time.
Dan Katz
All time.
Max
I can't.
Dan Katz
You.
Max
You might be the only person ever, like, in America that did that.
Dan Katz
No, I actually think there might be.
Max
A couple people who've done it after the opening scene.
Dan Katz
Like, yeah, there were some people who are mad about Happy War, too.
Max
But after the.
Zach
Oh, I just knew it was gonna be a repeat. I'm like, why should I just watch the first one?
PFT Commenter
It's gonna be a repeat.
Zach
The beginning narration was literally the same song, same voiceover, same. Same thing. It's like, all right, this movie, which I'm assuming is how it goes, is like a pretty similar story to the first one.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's a remix.
Zach
I'm gonna watch it. Okay, but once again.
PFT Commenter
Right now, you're Spoiling our upcoming review of Happy Gilmore too.
Dan Katz
True, True. All right, good. Who's back?
PFT Commenter
Thanks. I have two who's backs.
Dan Katz
All right.
PFT Commenter
First, who's back is Hank and Mount Rushmore season. Great performance last week.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
But you. Let's get real. You nailed that top to bottom.
Dan Katz
Good work. You mean on just Friday?
PFT Commenter
On Friday show. Yeah, yeah. Great work.
Dan Katz
You said last week.
PFT Commenter
Friday was last week.
Dan Katz
Got it.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
But there was more than just Friday.
PFT Commenter
I'm talking Friday. Great work by Hank.
Zach
Starting championship dvd.
PFT Commenter
Your lips to God's ears. My other who's back of the week is Philly Sports fans. Good sports town. And it travels. That was in Yankee Stadium. Right?
Dan Katz
There was Correct. There's a video of playing against the Yankees.
PFT Commenter
How to two fans allegedly having a. Having a great time at the old ball game.
Dan Katz
Just enjoying it.
PFT Commenter
Just. He was saying, we're number one peanuts and cracker Jacks. Just giving her. He was giving the Bronx salute.
Dan Katz
Yeah. He was telling her, fastball down the middle.
PFT Commenter
It was the Bronx salute. It might have been a little bit low for a Bronx salute. And she really thought that he was getting the spirit of the game. And you love to see two kids go out to a ball game like that, enjoying themselves.
Dan Katz
Love is love. And Philly fans love love. There it is.
PFT Commenter
Brotherly love. That's not. Maybe not brotherly.
Dan Katz
That wasn't brother.
PFT Commenter
Maybe like stepmotherly love.
Dan Katz
That was something different going on. His love. Love is love.
PFT Commenter
Love is love. But they had a great time at the old ball game. That's what we like to see, sports fans.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Who says baseball's dead?
Dan Katz
Not us.
PFT Commenter
Not us.
Dan Katz
Not us. Never. All right, I got a couple who's backs? First is Jokic. The video of Jokic crying after his horses won.
PFT Commenter
So good.
Dan Katz
So good. I. Would you be pissed if you're a Nuggets fan? Like a little bit.
PFT Commenter
A little bit.
Dan Katz
But it's also so funny.
PFT Commenter
But it's good to see him expressing that emotion about something.
Dan Katz
Yeah. I. The way I. I put it was Jokic. He just rocks because he loves horses more than anything. And then in the horse offseason, he's like, I'll win a couple MVPs.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. It's his. It's like a hobby.
Dan Katz
Yeah. He would rather. It's almost like, I got to go pay the bills and win an MVP and be the best basketball player in the world.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
I mean, I really want to be back with my horses.
PFT Commenter
It was abundantly clear that he cares more about his horse winning races than he does about winning NBA championships, but he also cares a lot about winning NBA championships and he's very good at that too.
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
So just let Jokic be Jokic.
Zach
He loves the cart horses too, which is. I don't understand as much.
Dan Katz
It's just Serbian. Yeah. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
You know what I would not do though, if I were a Nuggets fan? Is shame him for this. No, because that's just going to push him away.
Dan Katz
Agreed.
PFT Commenter
I think Nuggets fans just have to become just as big of horse fans as Jokic is.
Dan Katz
Big time. Agree.
PFT Commenter
Like build. Build a world class horse race track in Denver and then maybe Jokic will be more attached to your city.
Dan Katz
Yeah, he can't leave.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Also, I saw there was, I think LeBron posted something with Yogic's agent. Did you see that look in the Instagram. Maybe it was. Was it? Hold on, I'll find it. It was. So it's not what you think of like LeBron and Jokic teaming up. It was. Oh, so his so joke's agent posted something with LeBron and said the summer 2025 is a perfect time to make big plans for the fall of 2026. It was him, Maverick Carter and LeBron. So you'd initially think, oh, this is LeBron trying to Jokic. It's I think the threatened league that people are talking about, a new basketball league because he's a big agent in Europe and he's got like all the Euro ball.
Charles Barkley
So.
Dan Katz
Interesting.
PFT Commenter
Do you see? Do you see what Luca tweeted out today?
Dan Katz
What do you say?
PFT Commenter
There's a tournament of one on one basketball that's gonna be going across the country this summer. Okay, that would be awesome to watch.
Dan Katz
The summer's over. Over. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Well, no, August. It's like July 31st into August.
Dan Katz
This summer is over. Hank knows it. Hank knew it. He said when Grit week starts, Hank knows summer's over.
Zach
Yeah, Football's back.
Dan Katz
Football's so back. Yeah. Yeah, you're excited for it. Also, Mario, who got cocked by Princess Peach there was Nintendo announced. Was it What? Did we talk about this on Friday?
PFT Commenter
No, I saw that report.
Dan Katz
It came out on Friday. Big report. Oh, Hank, I forgot. You just weren't on earth for the last three days. Nintendo released what? This was a big story. It was. Nintendo released a statement on Princess Peach's relationship with Mario and said they're good friends and help each other out whenever they can. 40 years of that, total friend zone. White knight.
PFT Commenter
Very sad. Very sad for Mario. You think Luigi was smashing?
Dan Katz
No, Luigi's Smashing the other one.
Hank
Daisy.
Charles Barkley
Daisy.
PFT Commenter
Daisy.
Dan Katz
All up in Daisy's guts.
PFT Commenter
Nothing for Mario.
Dan Katz
Yeah, nothing for Mario. Mario.
PFT Commenter
How many times does he have to save her?
Dan Katz
I can't believe I missed that. It is funny, though. It was like it was going viral for a while on Friday. Did you hear about the aliens?
Charles Barkley
I did.
Zach
I did hear about the aliens.
Dan Katz
Did you see Dante Jones pick his butt? Nope. Yeah, that was a crazy video. My former teammate.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
What else did you miss? Shane Victorino played for Savannah Bananas. That's fun again.
Zach
That's fun.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
What else did Hank maybe Ms. Shaq hates Rudy Gobert.
Dan Katz
Yep. Yep. That's.
Zach
That's. That's been known.
Dan Katz
Did you just break it? Trump's caddy dropping a ball.
Zach
That's very funny.
Dan Katz
That's also like I.
Zach
Classic.
Dan Katz
If you're. If you're a person of money or power, like, you have to have a caddy doing that. Yes.
PFT Commenter
Why would you ever hit out of a bunker?
Dan Katz
That's like. Like just. I would love to just have someone just going in front of me all the time to be like, found it. Right in the fairway.
Zach
His course.
Dan Katz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Zach, do you have a who's back for us?
Hank
I do have who's back for us. I've got a quick one this week. I know I've been touching the video game stuff a little heavy, so I will broaden my horizons. But this is pretty notable. They had a EWC this last weekend. Are you familiar with ewc? Yeah, Esports World cup there in Saudi Arabia.
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I definitely thought you meant.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Hank
It's so. It's the Saudis, so KHA champs, I would say is the biggest tournament of the year.
Dan Katz
Wait, when you said you were broadening your horizons, it says not.
Hank
I was like, I'm gonna.
Dan Katz
Move forward.
Hank
I'm gonna broaden them. This just felt notable.
Dan Katz
Got it. Listen, you got to report on what you got to report.
Hank
I appreciate that, but I will broaden them, I promise. But Optic, the Greenwall was able to defeat Vancouver again. Two trophy raising ceremonies at the end of the year for this title of BO6.
PFT Commenter
What game was it?
Hank
Black Ops 6.
PFT Commenter
Black Ops 6?
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
That's huge. So Optic is just wiping the out of everybody else right now, right?
Hank
Oh, yeah. Season's over. What a turnaround. Beginning of the year didn't look too great. And they just finish off just taking out heads.
Dan Katz
Can I. I'm gonna say something crazy now. And we're a team of Mount Rushmore, so this is outside of Mount.
Hank
This is separate.
Dan Katz
It's off the field. Would you say I've been fair with you?
Hank
More than fair.
Dan Katz
Would you say I've been firm with you?
Charles Barkley
More than firm.
Dan Katz
Okay. Do you think I could be firmer?
Hank
Get as firm as you like, sir.
Dan Katz
All right, I'm gonna be. I'm gonna get real firm with you. I'm gonna get firm but fair. I don't want to hear another thing about video games from you until you start streaming for us.
Hank
I won't say another thing about video games, I promise.
Charles Barkley
But that.
Dan Katz
No, no, you. You don't understand what I said.
Hank
Oh, okay.
Dan Katz
You can start streaming tomorrow and then you can talk about it all you want.
Hank
I got you.
Dan Katz
I. That's what I'm looking.
Hank
Not another word.
Dan Katz
I'm doing more of a. I want to start streaming.
Hank
Okay.
Dan Katz
So it's like I gotta take something out away to get you to do the thing that we want you to do.
Hank
I can do that for you.
Dan Katz
The people want to see you streaming video.
Hank
The thing is, I'm not the best big. I had full transparency.
Dan Katz
Doesn't matter. You got to either have.
Hank
So for a stream gaming, I either have the mouthpiece or the. Or the game ability.
Max
I'm have the mouth.
Dan Katz
I got a lot of mouthpiece.
Hank
I got a lot of dead air. And then not the best game.
Dan Katz
But I will do it for you. I will do it for you guys.
PFT Commenter
That was old Zach, new Zach with his fresh new haircut.
Hank
Okay, I appreciate that.
Dan Katz
So just so we're clear, you understand I want you to keep talking about video games. But.
Hank
But because you're streaming, I can do that for you.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Max
I will be there with fair few and. Yeah, you'll be good.
Dan Katz
Meme's gonna walk you through it. He's got you.
Hank
We got this as a team, boys.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Max
Yes, but you are. You are the.
Dan Katz
You never walk alone.
Max
You are Liverpool.
Dan Katz
Pardon my. Take the same thing.
Hank
Let's walk, boys.
Dan Katz
All right. Good job, Zach. Again. Don't know what you just said.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was Optic One Saudi Arabia.
Zach
So they want to COD Live.
Hank
It is cod. That's a perfect way to explain it. Dropping money.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they can wear shorts while they do it.
Hank
Cold pair of shorts out there.
PFT Commenter
Okay, louder.
Dan Katz
What's up? Is it cod, but louder.
Hank
There was some interference by the crowd that they're trying to figure out. But the. The crowd like gives. Sells some different things for the game. It's not very good.
Dan Katz
Got it. Got it.
Hank
Guys tripping. Other guys were trying to Diffuse bombs.
PFT Commenter
It's a whole thing in Saudi Arabia.
Hank
In the Saudi Arabia.
PFT Commenter
Yes. Okay.
Dan Katz
Okay. Let's do our Mount Rushmore. It's presented by hey Dudes. I'm actually wearing my hey Dudes right now.
Zach
Same, same.
Dan Katz
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Zach
That's all I wear.
Dan Katz
Text bar stool to 50204 to grab 20 off all our favorite styles. Okay. Mount Rushmore of words to start with, G and grit is eliminated. So we're doing it in honor of grit, but grit cannot be picked. Who is up first? I'm feeling very uncomfortable.
Zach
Yeah, he was doing this earlier too.
Dan Katz
What?
Max
No, I was not.
Zach
Yeah, you were.
Dan Katz
This is. This is.
Max
This is going to be an honor game. I'm not even going to look at you guys.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Zach
I'm just gonna.
Max
I'm just gonna look at my boy memes here.
Dan Katz
All right, so who's up first?
Zach
PFT's got the ball.
PFT Commenter
All right, let's go.
Zach
Hank and I love our list.
PFT Commenter
Love our list.
Zach
Or hot.
Dan Katz
All right, going three for three.
PFT Commenter
Number one. We're taking game sevens.
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
First overall memes. Look like I just did something terrible.
Dan Katz
No, it's a good pick.
PFT Commenter
That's a great pick.
Dan Katz
Great pick. It's a great pick. Great pick.
PFT Commenter
They're the two best words.
Dan Katz
What about game seven?
PFT Commenter
Two best words in the English language or what? Game Sevens. That would mean that game is one of the best.
Zach
Yeah. We're a sports podcast and the best.
PFT Commenter
Two words in sports are game seven.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Okay. Wait, I can't get my.
Zach
My computer.
Dan Katz
Well, we don't have wi fi on this bus, which I didn't.
PFT Commenter
I didn't realize we didn't tether.
Dan Katz
I was tethered, and then I thought I could go to my phone to see what I sent, and now I'm screwed. Do you have the list I'm texting.
Hank
To you right now?
Dan Katz
Okay. Text me the numbered list right now.
Charles Barkley
Yep. Oh, no.
Dan Katz
We have our one. One that we're going to pick, right?
Charles Barkley
Is there a pick?
Dan Katz
Yes. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna go with gridiron. Can't do football without gridiron.
PFT Commenter
Good pick.
Dan Katz
Gridiron.
Charles Barkley
Okay.
Max
We are gonna go.
Zach
I'm never fully understand.
PFT Commenter
The gridiron is like a shape.
Hank
Yep.
PFT Commenter
Iron. And it looks like the football field.
Dan Katz
Gridiron.
Max
We're gonna. The reason that we had that reaction earlier, because we were shocked that Hank didn't pick this. We're gonna go with golf.
PFT Commenter
Okay.
Dan Katz
Good pick. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
And then you love golf.
Max
Yeah, I'm a huge golfer. Meme shot in 82 yesterday. Golf will be our first, and girls will be our second.
PFT Commenter
Oh, girls. Like, under 18.
Dan Katz
What age is girls? Is girls.
Max
Is girls now a age group?
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Well, yeah, there's women.
Max
That is not true.
Hank
That's.
Dan Katz
Yikes. Girls. Yikes. I want to apologize to everyone who's tuned in for the Charles Barkley interview. We don't know this guy.
PFT Commenter
Max.
Dan Katz
He's on a flight. He's on a flight log.
PFT Commenter
Max.
Dan Katz
Girls.
PFT Commenter
What?
Max
You guys can try and do this. That is just not how this works.
PFT Commenter
I have a question.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
What college football team do you root for again?
Max
That also.
Dan Katz
That doesn't make sense, though.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
That doesn't make sense. That didn't make sense. The answer is pen. Save that, dude.
PFT Commenter
It's a pattern.
Dan Katz
Go. Hank, you're up. Hank, you don't think people say whatever. No, we love. Hate girls.
PFT Commenter
I love girls.
Zach
Is your mom a girl or a woman?
Dan Katz
She's a girl.
Hank
Mom's a lady.
Dan Katz
Synonyms, you idiot.
Max
Lady synonyms.
PFT Commenter
Lady.
Charles Barkley
Woman.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, ladies. Ladies are classy picks. That would have been good one for L. Elwood's.
Dan Katz
Okay, don't get upset, but, like, there's.
Zach
There's. They call. They call girls young women. They don't call girls old girls.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, good point.
Zach
They don't call women old girls.
PFT Commenter
That's an outstanding point.
Dan Katz
Yeah, right?
PFT Commenter
No, you can't argue with that.
Dan Katz
Okay, I think we go with our plan, right? Stay strong. Don't break number 34 there. Right?
Hank
34. Yes. Yeah, we didn't know Late edition.
Dan Katz
It was late Edition. We're gonna go with guitars.
PFT Commenter
Good pick.
Dan Katz
I mean, you know, pft. A lot better than girls.
PFT Commenter
I. Guitar solos on the list.
Dan Katz
But yeah, guitars, guitars, they're everything to music.
PFT Commenter
Shout out to mercy.
Dan Katz
Yeah, I just.
PFT Commenter
By the way, I. I looked up girls in the dictionary. A female child or adolescent.
Dan Katz
Oh, no.
PFT Commenter
And the example was a six year old girl.
Dan Katz
Oh, no. Oh, no.
PFT Commenter
It's just interesting.
Dan Katz
Okay. Yikes.
PFT Commenter
So.
Dan Katz
Just remember when you're voting like.
Zach
You got the ball.
PFT Commenter
I got the ball.
Zach
You felt strong about this one. But I. I like whatever you like.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Zach
Can't go wrong with that list.
PFT Commenter
We are going to go with gold.
Charles Barkley
Gold.
Dan Katz
Okay.
Hank
Good element.
Dan Katz
Great pick.
PFT Commenter
Next pick, we're going to go with green jacket.
Dan Katz
Okay. Oh, great pick. Great pick.
Zach
But I like, I thought I was gonna go rogue.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, yeah.
PFT Commenter
I know that we might be later.
Hank
Tonight, but at the variant.
Dan Katz
No, no, the thing we said on the way out when we're like, this is great. Our next pick is guys being dudes.
PFT Commenter
Okay.
Dan Katz
What's better than that?
PFT Commenter
Give me an example, Zach.
Hank
We're guys being dudes right now.
Dan Katz
Right now. Loving it. Guys being dudes.
PFT Commenter
Except. Except for Max.
Dan Katz
Max is not included in guys being dudes. He's boys being these creeps.
PFT Commenter
Guys being felons.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Do you guys like guys being dudes? Max, you like guys being dudes or do you. Are you gonna talk about girls more? Everybody calm down. What's your favorite age of girl? Max, give us. Give us one answer to that. Give us one answer to what your favorite age of girl is. Can you give us one?
Max
We're gonna go away.
Dan Katz
Oh, you can't even give us one.
Max
I mean, you guys are not taking the baby.
Dan Katz
You can't say my favorite girl age is 25.
Max
Yes, you can.
Dan Katz
No, you can't. That's not a girl. That's a woman. That.
Max
They are synonyms.
PFT Commenter
No, I just read you that. I read you the definition.
Dan Katz
They're not. You're a pedo.
Hank
Dating apps. Does it go like men?
PFT Commenter
Women?
Max
Zach, this isn't you.
Dan Katz
Yes. No, that is part of our meeting.
Zach
Why would you answer his question?
Max
Yeah, because this is rage bait. I'm not taking the bait.
Zach
There's no question.
Dan Katz
Just give me one favorite age of.
Max
A girl right now.
Charles Barkley
What?
Dan Katz
Your favorite age of a girl.
Max
I will not. I am not answering the question.
Zach
Why? Why is there a band?
Dan Katz
I don't have to answer the question.
Zach
Why is it called boys to men if they're synonyms, Wouldn't it be the same thing?
Dan Katz
Really good point.
Max
Whatever.
Dan Katz
Really good point. We're gonna go with Grand Theft Auto.
Charles Barkley
Okay.
Dan Katz
Nice one.
Hank
Good pick, guys.
Dan Katz
Good pick.
Max
We literally made our company off of saying Saturdays are for the boys.
Dan Katz
Yeah, that's different.
Max
That was the exact.
Dan Katz
Acting like boys. Acting like. No, we're acting. You don't understand what are. Yeah.
Zach
No, no. Yeah, Matt, that's correct.
Dan Katz
Yes. Busting with the boys is a dude.
Max
You are just saying baral things that we use.
PFT Commenter
You're talking about boys, not girls.
Dan Katz
You're. You're. You're wrong, dude. We're talking about acting like boy. When you act like a boy, that's like we're doing, like, childish. Yeah, when you say I like girls, we all say, ew. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
You sound like Ghislaine Maxwell.
Dan Katz
Max, is that your next pick? Ghislaine, are you okay? Take it. Take it. I mean, why don't you stand for something and just take it? Just go full Epstein and take it. Take Ghislaine.
PFT Commenter
Get the pedal vote.
Dan Katz
We did that one. Girls, dude. You guys stopped girls, and then you took it off.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Did not have girls.
Dan Katz
I took it.
PFT Commenter
That very reason.
Zach
Grand Theft Auto.
Dan Katz
We took Grand Theft Auto.
Charles Barkley
Now was.
Zach
We all said, good pick, Max.
Hank
That's a great pick.
PFT Commenter
Great pick.
Dan Katz
I think. Yeah.
Hank
Grant the daughter better pick than girls. That was confirmed.
Dan Katz
No, that's definitely that. We're gonna take the Godfather. Okay. Okay.
PFT Commenter
All right.
Dan Katz
Okay.
PFT Commenter
So Godfather, Godfather, movies, parentheses, movie.
Dan Katz
Oh, no, you can do parenthesis. Movie. Parenthesis, Movie. Okay, we're gonna take. We're gonna take a pick with parentheses as well. Then.
Max
I. I don't want.
Dan Katz
We would like you. All right.
Max
We do not need our.
Dan Katz
Our. We. We need. We need the parentheses on ours. Nine.
Hank
Yeah, we would like to take. Oh, are we next?
Dan Katz
Yeah, no, we're next.
Hank
Okay. We would like to take gorilla Princes Harambe.
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
All right.
Charles Barkley
No.
Dan Katz
Yeah. No. Why? So now you're out on prince.
PFT Commenter
I think you can take gorillas. All right, fine.
Hank
Then we won't take it, then we won't take it.
Dan Katz
We won't take it. It. That's fine.
PFT Commenter
I mean, gorillas are pretty cool.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
King of the jungle.
Dan Katz
Okay, we can't blow up here. This is where we blow up. I'm thinking 14 and 12. Four. Four is pretty good.
Hank
Do you like 16?
Dan Katz
Three.
Charles Barkley
Oh, no.
Dan Katz
We really want to take Gorilla harambe. All right.
Hank
28.
Dan Katz
All right.
Charles Barkley
Would.
Dan Katz
No, no. Can I. I'm gonna say it because you guys are not going to take it. It is not our pick, but Zach has Been wanting me to take Gushers the entire time.
Hank
So good.
Charles Barkley
So good.
Dan Katz
I told him. That's a great honorable mention. Yeah, no, it's a great honorable mention. Mount Rush, when we were walking into the rv, he goes, just think a little bit more about Gushers. Okay, We're. We're stuck. We're stuck. We're not all you.
PFT Commenter
What about.
Dan Katz
What do you got?
Charles Barkley
What do you got?
Dan Katz
No, wait. I mean, no, you can't find it.
Hank
That's true. That's very true.
Dan Katz
Our last pick is going to be what?
Hank
What do you think? No, no, you got to take the rock.
Dan Katz
Take the rock.
Hank
I just threw it to the rim. Slam it down.
Dan Katz
Podcasting. Now. You got to say what you were thinking.
Hank
Okay.
Dan Katz
I'm thinking.
Hank
You go the G pick right here.
Dan Katz
No, no, no. You. You say what you were thinking. All right.
Hank
We would like to take.
Dan Katz
No, no, don't say it out loud. Just tell me what number you're thinking.
Hank
Okay. What do you think about.
Zach
This is insane.
Dan Katz
What happened to gorilla? Yeah, do it. All right, go.
Hank
We would like to take Guy Fieri.
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
Okay.
Dan Katz
We love guys.
Max
We had it on the list.
Dan Katz
Yep. Love guy. Fury. That's good. That's strong. That's. We didn't break Gushers. Would have been interesting.
Hank
I. I think it would have played a little bit, but it's definitely a risk.
PFT Commenter
All right. Our last pick. God.
Max
Yep.
PFT Commenter
God. Big man upstairs. Almost took Jesus Christ with a G, but God. Okay. Shout out to God. I mean, the greatest of them all.
Zach
Literally.
PFT Commenter
Heavenly father, most praise.
Max
We had it on the list.
Zach
Big ups.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Okay. What?
PFT Commenter
Without God, Mount Rushmore doesn't exist.
Dan Katz
We were thinking about taking gravity at one point.
PFT Commenter
That's a good one.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
We almost took. With our last pick, we almost took girlfriends, which would have played, I think.
Dan Katz
And we almost took girl on girl porn. Yeah.
Max
That would have been incredible.
Dan Katz
That would have been so good.
PFT Commenter
Lizzies.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Goal.
Dan Katz
Grand slam.
Hank
Grand slam.
PFT Commenter
Grand slam.
Dan Katz
Gumbo. Pft.
PFT Commenter
I had gumbo on the list.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
The G spot.
Hank
We had that as well.
Max
Ganja.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Hank
Gas.
Dan Katz
Grizzly bear. Great white shark.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Gruden Gretzky.
PFT Commenter
Oh, good picks.
Dan Katz
Google, Google.
PFT Commenter
Google.
Dan Katz
G unit game shows.
Zach
Nothing better than Internet gong.
Max
There's so many good G movies.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Max
Good fellas.
Zach
Goodwill hunting. Goodwill hunter.
Dan Katz
Or Zach wanted me to throw for the usa. Yeah. Good Golf, America, G strings. No one thought about taking guns.
Zach
Glocks.
PFT Commenter
I had glocks on the list.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Max
Memes. I almost went. Just went full all different areas and gone guns, Gays. And God. As our first three things.
PFT Commenter
So confusing.
Dan Katz
Instead you went with Guy Fury.
Max
Would have been the fourth.
PFT Commenter
I think that was a Warren Zon song.
Dan Katz
Then you went with underage girls.
PFT Commenter
That is not what guacamole do.
Dan Katz
Has the word underage women ever been said? No. You just said girl.
Max
Girl porn.
Dan Katz
That was an honorable mention. So honorable mention.
PFT Commenter
Getting laid.
Dan Katz
G spot.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. We said G spot.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Grandparents.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Gas.
PFT Commenter
Gas is good.
Dan Katz
Gasoline and gas. What the kids call it.
PFT Commenter
Yep. And farting.
Dan Katz
Garage fridge. It's nothing better than garage fridge. Where you keep all your beer.
PFT Commenter
Guinness.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Garage goal line stand.
PFT Commenter
That's good.
Dan Katz
The best. The best.
PFT Commenter
Get up.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Grilled cheese.
PFT Commenter
Good pack. Grilled cheese is a mess.
Dan Katz
Godzilla.
PFT Commenter
Godzilla's okay.
Zach
Godzilla minus one.
PFT Commenter
Godzilla fell off.
Dan Katz
These are honorable.
Zach
Godzilla minus one.
Dan Katz
Would you once you rip off a.
Hank
Couple yours Graphic T shirts.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Jello ball.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Hank
Gps.
Zach
Oh, that's actually who's back too. See Lamello's tattoo?
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Hank
The feet.
Dan Katz
That's hot. Cheeto. It's crazy.
PFT Commenter
Anyone have. Have GIFs or gifts?
Hank
Yes.
Dan Katz
Zach said that. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
What's your favorite gift?
Hank
It rotates. It does.
Zach
Nick Cage.
Hank
That's a good one.
Zach
Okay, let's run.
Max
I like the Jack Nicholson from anger management when he's smiling like.
PFT Commenter
That's a good one.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Max
Verbal gift. Verbal gift.
Zach
Or Kramer.
Dan Katz
Giddy up.
PFT Commenter
All right, Easy.
Dan Katz
Or Shania Twain.
PFT Commenter
It's not the Mount Rushmore of in Hank.
Charles Barkley
What was it?
PFT Commenter
Not the Mount Rushmore.
Dan Katz
What?
PFT Commenter
The letter N Talking Michael Richards over here.
Hank
Would. Would make griddle have played.
Zach
Would make griddle.
Hank
I know it's in, but is that.
Dan Katz
The pretext for all of us? I don't think so.
Max
They use it for every gordita. Crunch.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Oh, gordita.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Leaving out the crispy.
Max
The cheat.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Or the cheesy.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Crunch. Yeah. Okay.
PFT Commenter
Grapes.
Charles Barkley
Gumbo.
Hank
Grapes are good.
PFT Commenter
Gumbo said goats.
Dan Katz
Pretty good.
PFT Commenter
List Goat cheese.
Dan Katz
Pretty good.
PFT Commenter
You guys like goat cheese?
Dan Katz
Not a big goat cheese.
PFT Commenter
Goat cheese is good in salad.
Dan Katz
Greg Olsen. George kd. Shout out our boys.
PFT Commenter
This one got turned down.
Dan Katz
Oh, green lights. Grandparents.
PFT Commenter
Green lights is good.
Dan Katz
Green lights are great.
PFT Commenter
Yep.
Dan Katz
Green lights are great. Guts. The show.
PFT Commenter
Do you have it?
Dan Katz
What'd you say?
Hank
This one got turned down for Max.
Dan Katz
Grandparents. Oh, yeah. Pft Said that. Oh, we said it. Yeah. Galaxy.
PFT Commenter
The galaxy.
Dan Katz
The galaxy.
PFT Commenter
The Milky Way galaxy.
Dan Katz
Pretty sick. Grateful Dust.
Hank
Gash.
Dan Katz
Gilmore. You guys.
Zach
Oh, Gilmore Girls.
PFT Commenter
Oh, man. Gilmore. Guys. The podcast.
Dan Katz
Guys. The podcast. Yes.
PFT Commenter
Pretty good.
Hank
Groot the superhero.
Dan Katz
Oh, wait. Who?
Charles Barkley
Groot.
Dan Katz
I Don't know.
PFT Commenter
I'm aware of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Hank
Yeah, Watch Guardians Galaxy. Great, great movie.
Dan Katz
I thought you're talking about Gru from Despicable Me.
Hank
Also another great G. Yeah, good G. Great school.
Dan Katz
He kind of runs the Minions, you know?
Hank
He is the overseer of the Minions.
Dan Katz
Yeah, he's the ringleader of the Minions.
Hank
That's gonna be a sick arsenal to have.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Who do you got?
Dan Katz
It's. I'll say this. So we've been doing this on Grit Week on the rv, if I remember correctly.
Zach
Look at that chick.
Dan Katz
The two memorable moments from the RV is max not liking titty and liking girls.
Zach
And look at that chick.
PFT Commenter
Look at that chick was strong.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Put those together. So you don't like titty and you like girls.
PFT Commenter
That wasn't great week, though. That was beer.
Dan Katz
No, I'm talking about just the rv. Yeah, yeah. But if you put them. Done.
Max
I'm done participating in this conversation.
Dan Katz
No titty.
Max
I'm done participating in this conversation. I will not. I will not raise my voice.
PFT Commenter
No, you didn't get rage based.
Dan Katz
No at all.
Max
Means just kept telling me. He was like, relax, relax. It's fine. Just give me the mic. He just kept trying to take the mic.
Dan Katz
He didn't even know he picked gta. Yeah, you blacked out gta. All right, it's time for Charles Barkley. Let's do it.
PFT Commenter
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Dan Katz
Okay, we welcome. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. The most special guest.
Charles Barkley
I appreciate that.
Dan Katz
You can probably hear that laugh and know. Exactly.
Charles Barkley
Special guest. Damn.
Dan Katz
Very special guest. This Is grit Week. It's presented by. Hey, dude. So we start every grit week with the same question.
Charles Barkley
Yes.
Dan Katz
Charles Barkley is our guest. The man, the myth, the legend. Let's start with. What does the word grit mean to you?
Charles Barkley
Good question. I think it's just your competitive nature. Like, talent is different for everybody. The notion that everybody's gonna be on the same talent level. When I see grit, I think about T.J. mcConnell, like, just like that dude gives you everything he's got, and that's all you can ask for, any player. I think me, as a former player, an announcer, and a fan, I hate when you can see people just half assing it. You know, we're the luckiest people in the world to get paid a ton of money to do something stupid. You know, bless all these guys. But we're the luckiest people in the world to get to do something silly and fun facts. And you make a lot of money. You make more money than teachers, firemen, policemen, doctors, anybody in the armed service to dribble a stupid ball or hit a stupid ball or carry a stupid.
PFT Commenter
Ball or to talk about guys that do that.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
We discuss.
Dan Katz
We're the really dumbest job.
Charles Barkley
But, man, grit to me, just, like, just compete, man. I can live with the results, win or lose, because you know that's gonna happen. But if you compete and, like, give it your best, that's all you can ask for.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
I think you. You show grit with your golf game. You never quit. You got better.
Charles Barkley
Yeah. You know, I've been to hell and back. I just think I remember I forgot to put on deodorant. That's grit, you know? You know, I was just thinking we.
Dan Katz
Can get you some.
Charles Barkley
You're a guy who'll get you some right now. I've got to get. You know, so. You know, I hate when you put on a colored shirt and you get the white marks.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And let me check.
Dan Katz
Listen.
Charles Barkley
Fuck. I forgot to put up.
Dan Katz
Go to the Edgewood shopping.
Charles Barkley
I need some antiperspirant.
Dan Katz
I went to the hotel.
Charles Barkley
No, because, you know, there's nothing worse when you put on a shirt and you get to all the white marks.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And I specifically put on my shirt and I said, I gotta. Don't forget to put on deodorant. And I forgot it like a damn moron. But you know what it's for? To go back to your original question. You know, it really sucked to be bad at golf. It was frustrating because I'd never been bad at anything in my life. Cause I was really good. And then I got too many lessons. When I was standing over the golf ball, I had like 10 guys talking to me, right? And I ain't gonna lie, I was terrified over the ball. And the best thing ever happened to me, I was at Tom Lehman's golf tournament. And I met a guy named Stan Utley. And I told him, stan, I don't even play anymore. I just played for charity. Embarrass myself for charity. And then the next thing I know, he says, hey, give me a chance. I, Stan, I've given up. Because I'd work with Butch, Hank, I'd work with every teacher in the world. My brain was fried. And man, thank goodness I met Stan Utley and he bought me back from death.
Dan Katz
Yeah, I would say grit too. Is your career like your high school career growing? You grew six inches from junior to senior year?
Charles Barkley
Yeah, I was a five ten backup, chubby point guard. And I grew from five' ten to six' five in one year. And you know, people always ask me, I didn't have any body issues. I was never in pain. You know, when I got back to school, I knew I had grown a little bit. I didn't know I had grown that much. So I went from being a chubby backup point guard to a six' five all state player. So, man, it was a great time.
Dan Katz
Yeah, and the story goes that like, you know, you weren't recruited until the very end of your high school career in the state tournament. Like that's when you started to get people to look at you. That's kind of a crazy sliding doors moment where if you don't ball out in the state tournament.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, it was crazy because I had never gotten a letter going into my senior year. So most cause people always say Charles Barkley came out of nowhere. That's cause I grew up. But you know, most teams have already contacted who they want to recruit and offer them scholarships. So the turning point was me. I played against one of the best players in the country. Name was Bobby Lee Hurt went to Alabama and people weren't sure because I was only like 6 5. They didn't know if I could play against big dudes. And Bobby lee was like 6:10. And he was the number one big man in the country. And I think I had 20, 20. And then that's when I started getting letters. But it was really just Auburn, Alabama, uab, some smaller schools. And the best decision I ever made was going to Auburn. Because in fairness, the only reason I went to Auburn is because they sucked you know? Cause, you know, it was really. And it was actually a really good thing because I was really close with my mother and grandmother. So UAB is only 30 minutes from my house, but they actually made it to the Sweet 16 and had everybody coming back. Oh, Alabama got Bobby Lee and Ennis, but they made it to the Sweet 16, had everybody coming back. So when I went down to Auburn, they had lost, like, 12, 13 games in a row. And I was like, yeah, this is the place for me. Y' all suck. Because, you know, I tell all these dummies who go to college today and transfer. I says, you have to make an educated guess or you're gonna get to play.
Dan Katz
Right?
Charles Barkley
I says, don't give me the education bs because if you want an education, you can get that anywhere. But the number one reason when you're a jock, you want to play, right? And the best thing that happened to me was going to Auburn, getting to play right away. Because if I went to Alabama, UAB first, Alabama second, I wasn't going to get to play. But I tell all these kids, you see these dummies all the time now. Didn't you see who they had on the team when you went there?
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
Then they transfer like, I'm not getting to play. I'm like, dummy, what were you doing when you were on your recruiting trip? I probably shouldn't go to Duke if I'm playing behind Cooper flag.
Dan Katz
Right, right.
Charles Barkley
I mean, so these kids, they make these bonehead decision. I said, man, go where you're going to get a chance to play.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Yeah.
PFT Commenter
How much money would Charles Barkley have made in the Nil era?
Charles Barkley
Oh, I'd have made a lot. I mean, you know, I would have made a lot. But you know what? They've got to fix this thing, because it is totally out of whack and out of control right now. It's an unsustainable business model to big donors like myself for millions of dollars every year. I love my colleagues, but I'm not gonna go broke giving them money every year. I mean, it's just an unsustainable business model to pay kids 20, $30 million a year. There's no business that can do that. I'm not against guys making money. Bless whatever guys making MBA in college. Bless them. But this model we got in college now, where you can just pay kids tens of millions of dollars, that's just unsustainable.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Yeah. Inside the NBA. I'm happy it's still going on.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
I'm happy it's going on. But it's going to, it's going to be interesting.
Dan Katz
Yeah, it's be different.
Charles Barkley
It's going to be different. But you know, that's the bad thing about it. We don't know how it's going to be different.
Dan Katz
Right. But it could be different. Good. You never know.
Charles Barkley
Well, you know, we have questions.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Like normally the number one time on our show is after the game. We get like 45 minutes to shoot. Shoot the show.
Dan Katz
That's the magic.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, but me and Ernie have talked about it. Like, are we gonna get to do that or they gonna say we gotta go to Sports Center?
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
And like, first of all, it's an honor to work for ESPN because they're the biggest sports network in the history of television. But like when we have those four to five minutes and it's like one o' clock in the morning and we can just go play and it gets weird. And it gets weird.
Dan Katz
Yeah, like that's the magic.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, but are they going to say no? Guys, y' all got 15 minutes. We got to go to Sports Center.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I hope not.
Dan Katz
No, I don't think, because. Well, here's my question. The you guys had like a, basically a two year everyone love fest, which you deserve. It had to feel good. But I think the fans of inside the NBA are so vocal that if they mess with it, you're going to have an army behind you being like.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, but ESPN got their own thing. Like they gonna have like they gonna have to get to Sports Center.
Dan Katz
I know, but there's a lot of pressure when you, when there's something that's that good. Yeah, you guys are that good.
Charles Barkley
But that's the thing. We don't know. Yeah, we don't know because everybody can say right now we're gonna leave everything the same. But like, if the game ends, SportsCenter gonna say, Nah, y' all got 45 minutes to shoot the shit or we need to go to SportsCenter in 15 or 20 minutes.
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
It's gonna be a learning curve. So like I say, we excited. Cause the main reason everybody got to keep their job, because I ain't gonna lie, it really sucked. Really sucked the last couple years, especially the last year, because for me personally, I learned a lot about myself. What I mean by that is I never been around people who had to worry about paying their bills.
Dan Katz
Right. You know.
Charles Barkley
Cause all my friends are basketball players and rich people and they're like, you know, and the people I've been working with for 25 years cause we always go out and drink after the show. Hearing guys talk about mortgage. I was like saying to myself, what's a mortgage? I can't send my. I gotta get my kid into a public school instead of private. And I was sitting there like, man, you are kind of out of touch with reality, right? And these people I really genuinely like and love. Cause I've been with them for 25 years. But to hear them talk about, man, we're gonna lose our job in six months. And then as it gets closer, you can see the concern. And I thought, tnt, our bosses did a shitty job. They did an awful job of keeping us abreast. I'll give you an example. Like, we were playing golf during the playoffs, and we were reading the Internet, finding out if we're gonna get fired or not, right? And I was like, tnt, our bosses, they sucked. Plain and simple. They're like, yo, man, just tell us.
Dan Katz
Yeah, let us know. Shoot us straight.
Charles Barkley
Shoot us straight. Cause these are real people. We literally were playing golf during the playoffs, looking at the Internet. Then one story said we lost it. The next story said, we still in negotiation. Then we lost it. We're still in negotiations. And TNT never came to us like grown folks and said, hey, guys, we probably gonna lose to NBA. Which we could have understood, right? But I thought they sucked. I told them they sucked because there's a way you treat people.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Cause if they had came to us and said, hey, you know what? It's a lot of money. Because, you know, we were paying $1.2 billion a year, and it went to 2.5 billion. That's a lot of money for 11 years. If they had said it's not a good deal, we would have understood. But to let us hear about it. And I'll tell you something really shitty about it, too. I found out that we got traded to espn from ESPN that's got no. So this true story. So I'm sitting at home on a Friday night. I get a text because all the room was in the air. We didn't know anything. I'm sitting home on a Friday night. I get a text from Scott Van Pelt, Brian Windhorse, Al Duncan, and Bob Myers. Welcome me to the family. Like, what family?
Dan Katz
What are you talking about?
Charles Barkley
What are you talking about? Then about an hour and a half later, I get a call from tnt. They're like, what? A story broke? I says, well, you probably could have gave us a heads up.
Dan Katz
Yeah, you've known for a couple days.
Charles Barkley
I says, you traded us to espn and we have to hear about it on the Internet. I said, that's just not the way you do business. I said, ernie Johnson deserve. Cause he's the Godfather. Ernie Johnson should not hear he got traded from espn. People of the Internet, right?
PFT Commenter
Was it a full trade or are you guys still doing work for tnt?
Charles Barkley
Well, that's actually a great question.
Dan Katz
Great question.
PFT Commenter
Thank you.
Charles Barkley
They're trying to do something. We don't know what it is yet. We taped a pilot and it was a shit pilot.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
So it was brutal. It was brutal.
PFT Commenter
Wait, tell me about the shit pilot. I want to hear more about the ship pilot.
Charles Barkley
So we did four segments. One segment. And one thing I got to give tnt, Craig. They said it was awful and it's never gonna see the. So we did like four segments. One segment was Kenny doing fashion. One segment was like Shaq doing Shaq. The funny section you do. I forget one. We did axe throwing. And then we did finger painting.
PFT Commenter
Okay.
Charles Barkley
We did four, like. We did like four 15 minute sections. And I was sitting there like, I think this is stupid. I don't know how stupid it's gonna be until I see it. Yeah. And when we walked out the studio that night, we were like, that's the stupidest shit we've ever done. And that's my major concern with tnt. I think we can handle the ESPN portion, but I don't want them doing something stupid with our show that people like, man, they really ruined that show.
Dan Katz
Right? Yeah. Right.
PFT Commenter
I mean, the pilot.
Charles Barkley
But I will say, I give them credit. They said the pilot was shitty.
PFT Commenter
That's an important thing to know.
Charles Barkley
It's important to know.
Dan Katz
Yeah. They're finally straight with you.
Charles Barkley
Yes.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
I said that's all you want.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Because I don't want us number one. You gave us a great company. I've enjoyed our show all these years, and people love our show. Don't just do something stupid just to do it.
PFT Commenter
It's great television. And the pilot should be. Just put you four guys in a room.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
With microphones, and that's it.
Charles Barkley
Well, the problem is, Kenny Shaq don't watch sports. So, like, I could talk about the NFL. Like, I got up this morning, watched Sabalenka play. That was a hell of a match. You know, I get up and watch all sports. I do. I love. Football's my favorite sport. In boxing, Those are my 2 favorite. But Kenny Shaq are not going to watch sports. Ernie will watch. Ernie went to the French Open and he saw that amazing final between Alcatraz and Center. And I was sitting at home and I was texting Ernie. This is the greatest match I've ever seen. He's still there because I saw him in the semifinal. And I said, yo, you please tell me you at this match. It was the greatest thing I've seen in a long time.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Let me get your thoughts on the NFL. You're a big football fan?
Charles Barkley
Yeah, I'm a big Eagles fan. Shout out.
Dan Katz
Go Birds fan. Okay.
PFT Commenter
All right. So how are we feeling about the Birds rolling it back next year?
Charles Barkley
Well, they're going to be really good. I think the number one thing you have to worry about when you win is guys relaxing. You have to change your mindset when you win. You have to realize, like, we're going to be the hunted, not the hunter. But I think with Saquon and Jalen and Coach Nick, you know, they got Howie Roseman, probably the best GM in the NFL now. They gonna be good. But, man, you have to hope. You have to be. Cause when you go that deep in the playoffs, you have to be healthy. Cause you don't play on an extra three or four or five games, man, it takes a toll on you. But the main thing, you know, man, Saquon was a gift from heaven. I can't wait to meet him. I never met my cousin. He's a Barclay. So if you that good as a Barkley, I'm gonna claim you.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, absolutely.
Charles Barkley
So I'm really looking forward to this year. I'm really looking forward to college football. As usual, Auburn's going to be better, but I'm really excited about Coach Belichick at Carolina.
Dan Katz
Yep.
Charles Barkley
Man, I'm really pulling. He's a good friend of mine, and I really want to see him do well down there.
PFT Commenter
I was telling Big Cat last night, we're talking about Belichick. That's my guy. The last couple months for. For Belichick have probably been good. Well, it's probably made him think, like.
Dan Katz
He spent what not been good.
PFT Commenter
I was a good team.
Dan Katz
Jordan.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we love Jordan.
Dan Katz
We've had her back.
PFT Commenter
She needs more power.
Dan Katz
She.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, she needs to stay. Stand down.
Dan Katz
No, no, no, no. She needs to run the program.
Charles Barkley
No, no. Hey, you know, I struggle whether to call coach and just. But I prefer to stay out of people's personality.
Dan Katz
Yeah, you got to.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, but she's got to stand down. Yeah.
Dan Katz
I think.
Charles Barkley
Because you got to understand something. They're using her to get to Bill.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And she has to understand that because people don't like Bill, and he deserves Some blame for that. Because the way he treated the media now, the way it ended in New England, they want to get him back, so they're using her to get to him. I just hope he's successful. Cause he's a great dude. He's the greatest pro football coach ever. Cause Coach Saban's the greatest college coach ever. I want to see him finish on a high note. That's my number one concern. I want to see him finish on a high note.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I just think the. The last, what, 20, 25 years of Belichick's career, he's avoided the media. He's like these jackals. I'm never going to give him anything. And then the last.
Charles Barkley
You can do that when you're winning.
PFT Commenter
You can do that when you're winning.
Charles Barkley
And then, see, that's like, these guys annoy me. They're like, you can treat the media how you want to when you win.
PFT Commenter
Yep.
Charles Barkley
But you got to understand, when you're losing, they gonna come for you. Yeah, it's like these golfers now. Well, I don't have to talk to the media. I'm like, well, you run to them when you do well. Yeah, well, you got a product. See, that's the thing, you know, these days, like, we're in a business relationship with the media. I tell these guys, yo, man, that's the reason we make all this money. The media pays it. But you have to understand something. When you want to sell a product, you go to the media. When you play great, you run to the media. When you play like shit, you can't avoid the media. That's why I'm starting to get pissed off at some of these golfers now.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Like, when you got a new product, come on, you go on TV and hype it and talk about it. But when you play bad, they gonna write bad things about you. That's the way. This is a business relationship. I understand it. I tell all the guys, yo, man, when you do good, they gonna write good stuff about you. When you do bad, they gonna talk bad about you. If you don't understand the business relationship, you need to get another real job.
PFT Commenter
Did you understand that when you were playing?
Charles Barkley
I did, yeah. Dr. J, who was great for me, Moses Malone's the most important person in my career. Cause he made me lose £50. I didn't realize I was fat and lazy until he told me. I said, because I wasn't getting to play early in my career. I said, moses, why am I not getting to play? He says, well, Chuck, you're fat and you're lazy. I'm like, what do you mean? He says, which part did you not understand? He says, son, you really talented, but you weigh 300 pounds. You can get away with that in high school. You can get away with that in college. You can't get away with it in the NBA. And this guy worked with me before practice, after practice. He said, let's lose 10 pounds. I noticed the difference right away. He said, let's lose 20. Now I'm starting to get to start. He said, let's lose 30, let's lose 40. And I get to 250. And that's what I played at my whole career. But if it wasn't for him constructively criticizing me, he wasn't doing it to be mean. He was constructively criticizing me. That's why I like a lot of these punks today, you know, Constructive criticism is not trying to be critical. Sometimes you need it.
Dan Katz
Yeah. You need the straight answer.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
You need to. Yeah. You know, so Moses, the most important person in my career, but Doc taught me how to deal with the media. He said the first question, like, some guys in the media, they're just trying to get clicks. Well, I'm so old, they didn't call them clicks back then. Just trying to get your attention.
Dan Katz
Sell papers.
Charles Barkley
Yeah. But he says, the first question you have to ask, is the criticism fair? I said, what do you mean? He says, some criticisms are fair. He says, then you say, if it's unfair, you let it go. Because those are guys that are trying to get attention and get clicks and things like that. But the first question you have to ask yourself, is the criticism fair? And that taught me how to deal with the media.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
It's really smart. I know you're not a role model, famously.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
You are a role model for me in gambling.
Charles Barkley
Thank you.
Dan Katz
Because you have the right approach to it, where it's something fun. I love to gamble.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
I don't want to be shamed for it.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
I like to do it.
Charles Barkley
Yes.
Dan Katz
I've been blessed to make more money as I go along. So obviously, you have to rein it.
Charles Barkley
You have to rein it in, though.
Dan Katz
Yeah, of course. I could find.
Charles Barkley
So I love gambling, but I had. I became a total crazy person because I won a million dollars probably 10 times. I've lost a million dollars probably 30 times.
Dan Katz
Right, right.
Charles Barkley
And what I. So every time I went to Vegas, I'd be up 300, 400, $500,000. My friends would be like, dude, you gotta quit. We Up. Let's go. Let's go get drunk and have some fun. I'm like, no. In my mind, I was like, I wanna win a million. Cause I'd done it a few times, and then I just kept losing. And I lost a lot. Millions and millions and millions. And I quit for, like two years. And I was out with my friends one night. We like to smoke cigars and drink. I said, man, I sure miss Vegas, miss casinos. And one of my things I demand out of my friends, man, be honest with me at all times. Just tell me the truth I can deal with. He says, yo, man, gambling ain't your problem. Being a fucking idiot is your problem. Explain. They're like, dude, gambling is peaks and valleys. We have sit there with you, you be up 300, $400,000. Be like, Chuck, let's go get drunk for the night. Quit. But you want to get to the imaginary million, then you lose that, and then you lose the whole million credit line you got. He said, dude, let's go to Vegas. Win a couple hundred thousand dollars. Lose a couple hundred thousand dollars, and then have a fun weekend.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And I said, okay, you know what? Let's try this. So now. Cause, you know, I live in Scottsdale, so I go to Vegas. We go to Vegas every two to three weeks. There's nothing like a football weekend there. Sportsbook. And it's like, okay, we know how much credit you got. Let's win a couple hundred thousand. Enjoy watching all the games. We lose a couple hundred thousand. Let's quit, go drink. We play golf. And I like. Cause I'm not gonna be mad if I lose a couple hundred thousand dollars right now. When I lose a million, I'm depressed for like a week.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Then it's not fun anymore.
Charles Barkley
It's not fun anymore.
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
But I had to be like, okay, dude, you love to gamble. Go and lose a couple hundred thousand, you ain't gonna be mad.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
But you win a couple hundred thousand dollars, oh, man, we had a great weekend.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And that's what I do now.
Dan Katz
You also. I like your honesty about it. Because I try to do the same thing where it's like, listen, I'm a loser. I lose. I've lost my whole life.
Charles Barkley
No.
Dan Katz
There's times I win.
Charles Barkley
Hey, let me tell you something. My casino host, who's a great friend of mine.
Dan Katz
Well, are you sure?
Charles Barkley
Yes.
PFT Commenter
If you didn't gamble, would you guys still be.
Charles Barkley
No.
Dan Katz
No. He totally fallen in love with the stripper.
Charles Barkley
That's right. So I got a couple host Dan Napier and Bill Munson are two of my hosts. They've been friends for a long time. He says, dude, we don't care when you win. We like it when you win. You know why you're gonna come back, right? He says, my job as your host is just to get you here as many times as possible. Cause we're gonna win.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And I said, what? He says, they don't build these pretty ass buildings cause people are winning. He says, we like it when you win cause we know you definitely gonna come back.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
But he says my job as your host is just to get you here as many times as possible. We're gonna give you all the toys and trinkets. You know they gonna send a private jet for you. I'm getting a case of Cristal Rose. Thanks, CL for getting me hooked on that. And you get all this free crap. It ain't free if you lose. But he said, he said, dude, we love it when you win because we know you're coming back for sure. But our job is to get you here as much as possible. Cause the more you come, you're gonna lose. Because I always tell people when guys say, I'm a good gambler. Don't tell me you're a good gambler when you're getting shit cards. How in the hell are you a good gambler if the deal is turning over 20 and you got 17?
Dan Katz
But that's, that's exactly what like, I, I hate, I hate when guys are like, yeah, like, I always win.
Charles Barkley
You don't always win. Stop it.
Dan Katz
This is going to get you the biggest. Like, you're going to win this. Bet this. It's. You're going to lose. You're going to lose. I like to do it. It's fun.
Charles Barkley
It's fun.
Dan Katz
That's a good way to look at it.
Charles Barkley
And so I'll tell you, actually, the only way to win is quit. No football. Gambling on sports is the only way to win. But you have to bet the money line.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Where you only gonna win Cents on the dollar.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Because teams always win. They just never cover.
Dan Katz
I know, I know.
Charles Barkley
But if you would bet. This is just my opinion. If you bet the money line and say instead of trying to win $1,000, win 50, win 500 or 750. And happy with that. That's the way I think the only way you can win bed.
Dan Katz
You're sounding like my. I, I had a bet for a while that was called the can't lose parlay. That actually got banned. It Became illegal.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Because I. It lost all the time. That was the joke. And I said it was a can't lose parlay.
Charles Barkley
I would like again, I would never do parlays. Parlays are the stupidest thing ever.
Dan Katz
There's an official, like, transcript. The Massachusetts Gambling Commission being like, Dan Katz is the worst gambler of all time. It's well known. And it's like, there we go.
Charles Barkley
You know, I went through a period of like two months where I tried to play parlays. And you hit, always hit three out of four. You always hit three out of four. And the thing that pisses you off is always the fourth one.
Dan Katz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Charles Barkley
I was like, it drives you down. That's why you get them damn good ass odds. I says, yo, man, we can never do parlays. I said, that's the reason they're giving you 10, 12 to 1. Because you always hit three out of four and it pisses you off.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Also, I want to give you a quick compliment. We saw you at the casino last night. You were playing blackjack. I feel like this is not a normal move. You were playing significant amount. I think it was whatever it was, 25 grand a hand. Guy next to you, your friend was playing $200 a hand. I feel like most guys don't let that happen. Where it's like, but you're just there with your friends.
Charles Barkley
Yes.
Dan Katz
And that's a cool move.
Charles Barkley
I only play with my friends.
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
Because they all asked me, do you want me to take this hit?
Dan Katz
Yeah. Right.
Charles Barkley
But I'm playing 25,000 a hand and he's playing for 200. I says, take it. And then if he wins and I lose, I'm like, okay. He asked me, yeah, there's nothing worse than playing with a fucking idiot. Back in the day. Back in the day, I used to play with an idiot and they take a shit hit and win and they go crazy and they fuck the rest of the table.
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
And you can't beat the shit out of them. Cause you want to. Yeah, that's nothing. That's why I don't play with random strangers. You're like, you hit that, Dillard's got 16 and you hit that. And they hit and they fuck the rest of the table. Cause nobody else is gonna take a hit.
Dan Katz
Right.
Charles Barkley
You know, the dealer's got 16, you're not supposed to hit. And they get like a 4 or 5 and they get 20 or 21. And I said, you weren't supposed to take that hit.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Then the dealer Turns over, I'm like, oh, my God.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
And when that person's playing at the end of the table, right next to the dealer and they fuck up, they fuck the rest of the table.
Charles Barkley
First base and third base are really important. Yeah. Hey, listen, if you gonna sit at third, I'm like, you better ask me my damn opinion.
PFT Commenter
Exactly.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Cause you're not paying for what I'm playing for.
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
So your process for betting on NFL Sunday, you like to. You like to bet favorites, Moneyline?
Charles Barkley
I do. I think that's the only way you.
Dan Katz
Can win, I think.
PFT Commenter
Well, so my strategy is. It's a bad strategy, so you should not follow it. I do a lot of reading going into the weekend. I feel like I'm ready. I read what all the experts are saying, and they're usually telling me, don't.
Charles Barkley
Ever do that again.
PFT Commenter
Like, take stupid Steve Young.
Charles Barkley
I hate Steve Young to this day. So, Steve Young. I'm in Atlanta. I had went to Coach Belichick's practice, and I'm like. And I go on TV and I says, man, I think the Giants are gonna win the Super Bowl. I said live on tnt, I think the Giants are gonna win the Super Bowl. I says, I don't think the patriots gonna go 17, 18 and 0. I says, the Giants are gonna win. I've been to Vegas 26 straight years for the Super Bowl. I get on the plane, I get up Saturday, we go play golf. I get up Sunday, we go play golf. I make the mistake of turning on the tv. I say, I got the Giants all weekend. Steve Young gets on TV and says, guys, we're gonna have the first undefeated season since the Miami Dolphins. I say, oh, shit. Every time I see Steve Young here, I just hate him so much.
PFT Commenter
You let him know.
Charles Barkley
I do. Yeah, you have. He says, I can't believe that I'm. This is the first time in my life I've seen a team go undefeated since the Dolphins. He said, I was a little kid when the Dolphins went. I think it was 72. He said, we're going to have the first undefeated team in NFL history since the 72 dolphins. I tell my guys, man, I just saw Steve.
Dan Katz
Yeah, the last thing you listen to.
Charles Barkley
That's the last thing.
PFT Commenter
That's why never get us.
Charles Barkley
Let's go back to your point, man. I don't want to listen to guys on like, you listen. I don't want to read too much. Like, I start. I wait till normally Thursday before I start watching NFL, NFL Live. I'm like, okay, that's a good point. Okay, that's a good point. But then I said, okay, I take what they say because, you know, they're good at it. But then you got to make your own decision. Because I learned from Steve. Young, man. Cause I was like, man, they're gonna. Mike. Mike. Cause I remember, because if you go back and look. I remember in the press conference, a guy said, tom Brady says, they said, you only gonna score 17 points. And Tom kind of snickered, like, oh, they gonna hold us to 17 points. Cause, you know, they were averaging, like, 35, 40 that year. He says, yeah. Somebody said, tom say we only gonna score 17 points. I don't even know if they scored 17. I mean, because that defense was ferocious. Yeah, but no, man, I try not to. I listen to them, but they get them wrong all the time, too.
PFT Commenter
Now, I read the gambling guys that tell you to take the least fun bets ever. The ones that you. That you hate watching, like the Unders. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to sit here rooting for no points.
Charles Barkley
So one of the reasons. What drives me crazy is when a favorite is winning and they don't cover. Because, like, halfway through the third quarter, I started rooting for the upset. Because I know. They know.
Dan Katz
You know? Yes, because you know right away. Yeah.
Charles Barkley
Oh, they're not gonna cover.
Dan Katz
I want them to lose.
Charles Barkley
They're gonna win the game.
Dan Katz
You flip. You're like, I'm against them.
Charles Barkley
Yeah. I'm like, they're gonna win the game, but they're not gonna cover.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
That pisses me off, guys.
Dan Katz
Oh, yeah.
Charles Barkley
That pisses me off big time.
Dan Katz
Are you at all nervous that Wemby is going to be, like, generational talent and you're going to have to go to San Antonio a bunch for the NBA Finals?
Charles Barkley
Listen, man, I want the spurs to do good. Cause my love for Coach Popovich, you know, I like messing with them. They some great fans down there.
Dan Katz
It's funny. I mean, and they actually feel like they've taken it, like, gone back and forth.
Charles Barkley
They have had fun with it. Yeah. See, you know what? See, you guys are so much younger than me. See, the world is so fucked up now. I'm so old. When you could actually joke. Yeah, I tell people. Remember when you could actually tell jokes back in the day? And people laughed. Now they're like, oh, you're gonna get canceled. You're gonna get fired. I'm like, you know, sometimes a joke is just a joke, right? That's the thing I hate about this whole society today. I think that people. I trust, people that are like, he's joking. Like, he's not. Like, if I called a person fat, that's rude and disrespectful.
Dan Katz
That's punching down. Yeah.
Charles Barkley
I would never punch. I would never say that to. I would never walk up on a woman and say, you're fat. That's just rude and inappropriate. Number one, I'm big myself. But this thing has gotten so out of whack now. Come on, man. I trust the public. Y' all know I'm just joking about something. But it's gotten so out of whack. Like, I can't imagine your guy. You guys, like, you. You have to worry what you say.
Dan Katz
Oh, yeah.
Charles Barkley
All the time. Which is stupid. But.
PFT Commenter
But you're right, though.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
I think that. Let's say if I heard y' all say something, I'm like, that was a joke.
Dan Katz
Right?
Charles Barkley
Fucking relax.
Dan Katz
Right? Like.
Charles Barkley
But somebody's always. Somebody's offended by everything.
PFT Commenter
Maybe Taylor Swift fans.
Charles Barkley
Somebody's offended by everything.
Dan Katz
Yeah, it is.
PFT Commenter
Except Galveston. You were right about Galveston.
Charles Barkley
Oh, my goodness. That is.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was correct.
Charles Barkley
First of all, I had to go back. Everybody was great in Galveston. Cause, number one, I didn't want to get traded from Phoenix. I was kind of going through the doldrums, and the Rockets bring me in. I said, you know, I want to finish my career in Phoenix. They're like, well, we have training camp at the beach. I'm like, oh, okay. That's a plus. So I like, you know, because I did want to finish my career in Phoenix, I got shocked by the trade, and I'm like, okay, at least I can spend a week at the beach to get my head right. Going into my last couple years of my career, I drive down to Galveston. We right on the water. I'm looking, damn, that water kind of dirty. And I said, yo, what's going on over here? They're like, well, Galveston's located, so we got a beach that we kept. You have to wear your shoes on the beach. And the water is up in your ankles, and it's dirty all in garbage. We ain't at the beach. We in.
Dan Katz
Hell, yeah.
PFT Commenter
You don't wear shoes in Galveston. You get, like, tar on the bottom.
Charles Barkley
What's having a beach if you can't walk in the water? Hey, there's a beach right across here. But we can't go on it.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you can drive on the beach. There's, like, motor oil spills.
Charles Barkley
And I had to go back to people. People were really nice, but, man, there's no need. What good is having a beach if you can't use it?
PFT Commenter
I agree with you 100%. Can we talk about a great beach? Barcelona. Dream Team.
Charles Barkley
That was great.
PFT Commenter
How much fun. How much fucking fun was going to Barcelona?
Charles Barkley
It was crazy. You know the best thing about it? The guys were so cool. We got along so well. We had so much respect for each other. Now the practice were crazy. We were trying to kill each other because a lot of egos going on out there. But, man, we had so much fun. I mean, the guys. The guys were so much fun to be around. Like Magic and Michael and me and Scotty played cards every night for three, four, five hours.
Dan Katz
Who was the best?
Charles Barkley
Whoever got the best hands. Michael is a. Michael tries to buy the pot. He didn't realize we all rich. It's like, okay, we all got money, dude.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
He always tries to buy the pot like, I'm a raise. You like, we got money too, fool. But that was so much fun. We went to a couple cases of beer every night. Larry Bird and Patrick Ewing became, like, great friends. We made up shirts. Harry and Larry, I mean, they became great friends, man. It was so cool.
Dan Katz
Was there ever a moment where you're like, we got a game tomorrow. We got to be ready for this. Or was it like, we're the best team of all time?
Charles Barkley
So we. Chuck Daly says, you guys do know if we lose, this will be the greatest upset in sports history, right? We're like, oh, never even thought about it like that, right? He says, you guys, we can't be fucking around. And then from that point on, we're like, kill. Just kill. You know, that's why, you know, people like, we weren't trying to win games by 60, 70 points. But Chuck says this would be the greatest upset in sports history. They would never stop talking about it. They call y' all the Dream Team. It'd be a nightmare if we lose. And Chuck was so awesome. He had two different starting lineups. Everybody just like, hey, you're gonna start this game. You're gonna start. And so the guys were just amazing. Yeah, and it was fun, too.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
You ever fuck with Shaq and be like, hey, you remember Barcelona?
Charles Barkley
Shaq wanted to say he was on, like, the sucking Dream Team. We're like, no, you're, like, on the fourth Dream Team. And it was fun to go into Barcelona on the beach because we took, like, an hour and a half, two hour walk every day. Because, you know, it was a topless beach.
PFT Commenter
Yep.
Charles Barkley
And we'd be like, great, put a shirt on.
Dan Katz
Great, put a shirt on.
Charles Barkley
Great, great, great. Put a shirt on. Like, we would just walk up and down every day down the beach. It was beautiful. But you know, first of all, we went to the pool. They were topping us at the pools. We always went up there and got a case of beer and sit by the pool and watch. And as we got that, before we took a nap, we walked on the beach and we just look at these women, like, wow, impressive. Please put a shirt on. Wow, impressive. We did that like every day.
PFT Commenter
So you were the leading scorer on that team, right?
Dan Katz
Yes.
PFT Commenter
So how did that work out? Was there any, like. I know there's. There's a lot of superstars on that team. Sometimes, you know, we always joke that there's just one ball. That's what we say. We don't have shit else to say. We're like, there's one ball. I don't know if these great players are going to play well together, but.
Charles Barkley
Since you had to spread around, it's easy for great players because they can play without the ball. So you can never be a great player if you don't play without the ball. And if you play with other great players, it's really easy. The better players you play with, the easier the game is. Like when you're a one man wrecking crew, it ain't no fun at all. Like my last few years in Philly, I was by myself, basically. But when I got traded to Phoenix and got Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson and Mark west and those Ced Saballos and those guys, that's why I got mvp. I said I was a much better player in Philly because I had Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson, those guys. The game was so much easier for me.
PFT Commenter
So was there any, like. I don't know if even jealousy is the right word. No, we had no jealousy, no competition. Like, hey, Charles.
Charles Barkley
Oh, that was at practice. The practice were the most intense things I've ever been through in my life. Because you had Michael and Clyde, who hated each other. You had Magic and Scotty. And Scotty had just locked Magic up in the finals. They were trying to kill each other. You had Karl Malone and me, who was trying to prove who was the best power forward in the world, had David Robinson and Pat Yunh, who was trying to prove who was the best center. So the practices, they're the most intense thing I've ever been through in my life. The games were Easy.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
But let me tell you something. Those practices were like game sevens. It was incredible. The intensity, the ego. Like, it was. It was. It was crazy. But that was the only time. That's when it was tough. At practice. The games were like, hey, man, we representing the United States. Let's get it done.
PFT Commenter
You guys didn't call a timeout no. Entire tournament.
Charles Barkley
Well, we didn't need no timeout. We was there to whoop ass and take names.
Dan Katz
Yeah. All right, so I know you gotta go in a second. This has been awesome.
Charles Barkley
Thank you all for having me.
Dan Katz
I got a couple quick hitters for you last time that you had a bar of soap get stuck in your ass.
Charles Barkley
So. You know, I travel with my own soap. I've almost see it's a conspiracy by these hotels.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
Charles Barkley
These little ass bars, soap.
PFT Commenter
That's how they get you.
Charles Barkley
And they're out to get me. They're out to get big asses.
Dan Katz
So.
Charles Barkley
I never used a rag. I just used a bar of soap to scrub my body down. And I was wiping my ass a couple times. I had like, oh, my God, that was close. So now. And I'll tell you what's funny. I told this story on the podcast, me and Ernie's Podcast.
PFT Commenter
You stole that name from me, by the way.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Steam room.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Yeah.
Charles Barkley
What's crazy, I didn't realize how many companies made big soaps. So I had, like. I'm not even joking, everyone. Yeah. I had, like, 200 bars of soap. I gave them to a shelter, but every company had Bic soap. Sent me some to Atlanta, so I had enough soap to fill up a closet. But now, you know, I travel with my own soap. I'm never taking a chance with hotel soap again. You can lose those little bars.
PFT Commenter
You can't roll that dice.
Charles Barkley
No, you cannot. I love it because, you know, once it's in there, it's in there.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I gotta. It's just. It's just gonna absorb into your body. You're not getting that bad.
Charles Barkley
So, yeah, I travel my own big bars of.
PFT Commenter
All right, so another hygiene question. You said one time that you. You kept Vaseline inside your belly button.
Charles Barkley
Yes, I used to. Carl Malone told the story. I filled it up before the game because there's nothing worse than a person with big lips. And during the game, after you lick your lips a few times, they get all crusty and white. So I used to stick Vaseline in my belly button.
Dan Katz
And it's a good place to hide it. Yeah.
Charles Barkley
And Carmelo is the only person Told the world. He says, we had him on the show one night. He said, you still keep Vaseline in your belly button? I said, ernie, go to the next question. And he says, carl, what are you talking about? He says, this dude used to keep vaseline in his belly button. But I did used to keep vaseline in my belly button. Cause, man, let me tell you something. There's nothing worse than a dude with big lips and they all white and crusty.
PFT Commenter
Wouldn't it, like, slide out once you start to sweat? The Vaseline just drips out?
Charles Barkley
No, it stays in there a little bit because you have to reload at halftime.
PFT Commenter
I guess if you got to pick a whole hole to keep Vaseline in.
Charles Barkley
That'S the right hole. The other hole was blocked by.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Got soaked. Yeah. All right, so last question. Roback question. R b, a k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take. This has been so much fun. We really, really appreciate it. My last question, kind of similar to the soap where you get a bunch of soap, you know, sent to you. Have you had recently a guy in a sauna try to give you a bracelet?
Charles Barkley
You know, she told that story that.
Dan Katz
Had a bracelet from a guy at sauna.
Charles Barkley
See, Shaq and Ernie and Kenny have to make something so pure, so evil. The guy gave me. He. I wasn't familiar with the bracelet thing, and I was sitting in the steam room, and I said, oh, man, it's a cutler bracelet there. He said, I forget what they call it. He said, nah. He said, blah, blah. It means this, this. And when I get to the front desk from the Heft Club, the guy says, hey, Charles, we got something for you. And it was the man's bracelet. And, you know, I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. And I made the mistake of telling them fools I work with, he didn't give it to me in the steam room.
Dan Katz
Oh, I thought he did, but has that happened? Because I feel like that would be a copycat thing where if you see Charles Barkley in the steam room, you're giving him a bracelet.
Charles Barkley
No, he gave it to me. He left it at the front desk. America. He didn't give it to me. I don't want a bracelet from another man in the steam room. I don't want that.
Dan Katz
That. But if anyone sees him. If anyone sees Charles in the steam going forward, give him a bracelet.
Charles Barkley
That's exactly right.
PFT Commenter
It's almost worse than he left it. For. He was thinking about you later.
Dan Katz
Yeah, he's like, I really, like.
Charles Barkley
I appreciate his generosity.
Dan Katz
Yes. Yes. Well, Chuck, you're the best.
Charles Barkley
Thank you.
Dan Katz
We're huge, huge fans. Thank you so much for giving us some time.
Charles Barkley
Hey, man, it's my pleasure. Continue success. Yeah, I'll see you in the casino tonight.
Dan Katz
Yeah, you see this at the casino and keep giving Biz some shit.
Charles Barkley
Oh, that's my guy.
Dan Katz
He is the best. He's literally the best dude ever.
Charles Barkley
He is.
Dan Katz
Do this, though. He thanks people too much. He'll thank people for, like. Like, 50 minutes afterwards because he's Canadian, so just.
Charles Barkley
Hey, Biz but Canadian are nice people.
Dan Katz
Yeah, they're very nice.
PFT Commenter
Great guy, but he needs to chill out with Maple leaf stuff. He thinks he's on the team.
Charles Barkley
No, man, I'm rooting for them. Yeah. They got to win soon. Yeah, I know. They let Marner just go, but, man, I root for that because that's my favorite city in the world. Toronto is the best city in the world.
Dan Katz
Wow. I. I love it, too.
Charles Barkley
Yeah, Toronto is the best city in the world. Easily. Chicago summer is the second best. Those are my two favorite places in the world.
Dan Katz
Yeah, we got to get you to the office.
Charles Barkley
I'll be there.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Sounds good.
Dan Katz
All right. Thanks.
Charles Barkley
Thanks, brothers.
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Dan Katz
All right. Wrapping up the show, Happy Gilmore 2 came out. It's not a paid advertisement because we did have Scotty Scheffler on, but we did not get paid by Happy Gilmore 2 to talk about the movie. I just thought everyone was talking about it. I feel like we aligned pft. We haven't talked about it. Hank as well. Because you watched it.
PFT Commenter
But I was watching on the plane, and you were sitting next to me, and you probably got my reaction as I was watching.
Dan Katz
Well, I fell asleep for a little bit, but I thought it was exactly what I expected going in and that it wasn't the best movie. It was nostalgia. There was a shitload of cameos. I laughed a few times, and I went away being like, okay, that was fun.
PFT Commenter
I actually thought it was a very funny movie. I enjoyed it. I didn't.
Dan Katz
I don't know if I'd go as far as very funny, but that's. No.
PFT Commenter
I mean, my mark is, do I laugh More than six or seven times out loud? Yeah, I laughed probably 10 times out loud during the movie. I'll say this. A lot of cameos. The movie is pretty much entirely cameos and, like, throwback jokes.
Dan Katz
Guy Fury.
PFT Commenter
Guy Fury's in there. The best cameo by far. Rob Schneider.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
What a great job, Rob. He's so funny. I will watch anything. Rob Schneider's in. Rob, you're the man.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Appreciate you, dog.
Dan Katz
Yeah. And if you do another movie, Adam Sandler. We do do a podcast. There were some podcast cameos. Hit us up. No, it was weird because I saw a lot of people reacting to it. I didn't watch it till Saturday night, so people were reacting on Friday. People were very upset, and I was like, I. I just don't understand if you. I would get it. If you have to go to a movie theater to see the movie. It's a made for streaming movie. It's. You know what it's gonna be like. You know, I knew going in I could figure out the storyline within two seconds. Actually, I kind of got a little like the Shooter McGavin storyline. They did do a good job of switching that one up a little. But I, like, I expect it was like, hey, it's an hour and a half. I'm gonna sit on my couch and watch it. I'm gonna have a little nostalgia. There's gonna be a few moments that make me laugh. I'm gonna go away being like, okay, that was fun. Not, this is the worst movie ever. I can't believe they did this. I can't believe that people think that. Like, it's just. It was such a low bar, you know what I mean?
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
And you don't have to go. You don't spend any money. You just sit on your couch and watch it.
PFT Commenter
They didn't, like, try to make a brand new movie. It was like, yeah, everyone has Netflix. It was like, very much just straight up, hey, we're gonna redo Happy Gilmore and we're gonna have modern people in it. And it was good. It was fine. It was funny. I. I enjoyed it. I liked Ben Stiller returning. I loved how now Brooks and Bryson saved professional golf from an upstart league that comes into. Well, I would love to. To watch the people from Live Watching Happy Gilmore being like, this is funny. They're making fun of us. And then Brooks and Bryson are actually on the side of the PGA Tour.
Dan Katz
Yeah. That was awesome. I just don't.
PFT Commenter
I.
Dan Katz
Maybe I'm just. Maybe I'm out of touch, but I never went into it being like, this is going to be better than the original Happy Gilmore.
PFT Commenter
No, if. If you haven't possible.
Dan Katz
Right. So that's. But I think there were people who thought it was going to be better or on par with the original Happy Gilmore. I never thought that. I was like, I'm just going to take a little nostalgia blast from the past, watch some cameos, and burn an hour and a half of where I can turn my brain off and just watch a movie.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Now, if you haven't seen Happy Gilmore and you just watch Happy Gilmore, too, it's probably the worst movie of all time.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
If you've never seen the first one, that's fair.
Dan Katz
But.
PFT Commenter
But they didn't try to make a brand new movie. They were just like, we're going to make a funny, silly movie that is basically all head nods to the Happy Gilmore one. And also cameos from people that you recognize.
Dan Katz
Yeah. I also think if it was in the movie theaters, people would have a. A legit, legitimate complaint. I watch pretty much all the Adam Sandler straight to streaming movies, and they're all basically the same. It's like you turn it on, you know, that you basically can just turn your brain off, not have to worry about it being too serious or bum you out. You'll laugh a couple times. You're not going to think about it the next day. You're going to be like, that was one of the best movies I ever saw. But you're going to laugh a couple times and be like, all right. That was cool.
PFT Commenter
John Daly was great, too.
Dan Katz
John D. Was great.
PFT Commenter
Great job as an actor. I wouldn't even call him a cami.
Zach
He.
PFT Commenter
He was like a part of the movie.
Dan Katz
Yeah, Reggie Bush was great.
PFT Commenter
Yeah, Reggie Bush was in there.
Max
That Bunny. I didn't know that.
Dan Katz
He was actually incredible.
Max
I had no idea that was Bad Bunny. I thought that he was just an actor. I didn't know what he looked like.
Dan Katz
I laughed out loud multiple times at bad bunnies.
PFT Commenter
Yes.
Max
He was really good.
Dan Katz
Very funny. Very funny. So, yeah, I. I don't know why people. I guess I should say I do know why people get upset, but I just feel like it accomplished everything that it was. I was expecting it to not be. Blow me away that it Was going to just be like a fun popcorn watch.
PFT Commenter
I was shocked on Friday and Saturday when I saw people online saying, like, I turned it off. After five minutes. I turned off. It's like, what. What did you think you were getting yourself into when you started Happy Gilmore too.
Dan Katz
Correct.
PFT Commenter
That made you turn. I actually thought that the plot twist, like, two minutes in the movie. I laughed at it. I thought, that's fine. That made Memes very angry.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Memes was not a fan of the plot.
Charles Barkley
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Memes, you're like a number one Adam Sandler fan, Especially in, like, you know, the good bad movie draft. Do you think that it qualifies? It definitely qualifies. I liked it. I really enjoyed the family. Like, their son's just beating everybody up. I think they should focus more on the kids and the family and Shooter. Were there too many.
Hank
Too many cameos?
PFT Commenter
Too many cameos.
Dan Katz
Too many. Way too many cameo.
PFT Commenter
The movie. The movie was like. How long was it? Hour and a half? It was like 90. Tick tocks.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Perfect.
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Great one. Yeah.
Dan Katz
Don't have to think.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Having any type of entertainment. When I count this podcast kind of in that. In that genre of I don't have to turn my brain on. I'm. I'm welcome to all of it.
PFT Commenter
I wish that after every, like, minute, when it switched from scene to scene, it just, like, scrolled up like you were watching Tick Tock.
Dan Katz
Yeah.
PFT Commenter
Like, it simply.
Dan Katz
Someone will put it all on TikTok. Tick tock.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
That's what they do, right? They put full movies on Tick Tock. Yeah.
Hank
It's one scroll at a time. You can watch the whole thing.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Yeah. Imagine turning it off and being like, I'm gonna watch Happy Gilmore.
PFT Commenter
I can't believe that. Although when Tuesday's gone hit. It did make me think about the first one. But there were enough actual throwbacks to footage from the first film that it felt like I watched. Hap. Like half of Happy Gilmore 1 while I watched Happy Gilmore too.
Dan Katz
Yeah. Yeah.
Zach
I mean, this wasn't. I'm not necessarily excited to watch, but I will watch. I'll begin more. One greatest movie of all time. I think it's like, it's the. It's the perfect all time.
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
Dan Katz
Oh, Boban.
PFT Commenter
Awesome job by Boban.
Dan Katz
Great job.
PFT Commenter
Maybe he was the best cameo.
Dan Katz
Yeah, he might have been the best cameo. All right. We forgot to do lottery balls in studio, so we're gonna do something different. This is. I mean, it's grit week. You could. You can claim you want a Grit week one. I'm gonna say memes. Will you feel like you've won the lottery ball if you win what we're about to do? Okay. All right, what we're gonna do is, Chris, can you write down a number on your phone? One to 100. Any number. One to 100. He's gonna write it, we're gonna guess, and then he'll reveal because we forgot to do it. That's our badge. No, he'll show us right after.
PFT Commenter
Okay, tell us when.
Dan Katz
Good. All right, numbers. 3, 54, 74, 85, 23, 17.
Max
I love 85.
Charles Barkley
You got one.
Hank
17. I'll stick with 99.
Dan Katz
Po.
PFT Commenter
All right, Shane, what'd you say?
Dan Katz
Reveal it. 17.
PFT Commenter
That's Max's favorite number too.
Charles Barkley
72.
Dan Katz
Damn.
PFT Commenter
All right, no one.
Dan Katz
Damn. You had 74 memes. Take 74 memes. How many people asked you if you've gotten it yet? There was a ton at the meetup today. Yeah.
Hank
And they were like, oh, I think you're gonna get it this week.
Dan Katz
I was like, oh, we didn't film. They go, damn. Yeah. Gave me a number. Yeah. Well, we do have a surprise for later on this week, so maybe we'll be able to film it at some point. Okay. Good show, boys. Great week. Love it.
PFT Commenter
Love you guys.
Dan Katz
Sam.
Charles Barkley
It. Sam sa.
Pardon My Take Episode Summary: Charles Barkley, Grit Week Has Begun, Mount Rushmore of G Words, Plus Happy Gilmore 2 Review Release Date: July 28, 2025
Host/Author: Barstool Sports
In this special episode of "Pardon My Take," hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter embark on Grit Week, a themed series celebrating resilience and determination in sports. The show is uniquely set in an RV, adding a dynamic backdrop to the discussions.
A highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with the legendary basketball player Charles Barkley. The conversation delves into the essence of grit, Barkley's personal experiences, and his perspectives on the evolving sports landscape.
Defining Grit and Competitive Spirit
College Career and Growth
Working with Moses Malone and Media Relations
Transition from TNT to ESPN
Gambling Strategies and Experiences
Dream Team and Barcelona Memories
The hosts engage in a humorous segment where they attempt to create a "Mount Rushmore" of words starting with the letter G, intentionally skipping the word "grit" to celebrate its theme. The playful banter leads to unexpected and often irreverent choices, reflecting the show's signature humor.
Notable Picks Include:
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The episode also covers recent developments in the NFL and UFC, providing listeners with timely sports news and analysis.
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UFC Recap:
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Concluding the episode, the hosts review the long-awaited sequel, Happy Gilmore 2. Their opinions are mixed, balancing nostalgia with criticism.
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The episode wraps up with a light-hearted lottery ball segment, where a participant's chosen number was 17, coinciding humorously with host Max's favorite number.
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Final Thoughts: The hosts express their appreciation for the engaging week, the successful interview with Charles Barkley, and encourage listeners to continue following "Grit Week."
Closing Remarks: This episode of "Pardon My Take" masterfully blends sports commentary, humor, and insightful interviews, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and in-depth sports analysis. The exclusive conversation with Charles Barkley provides valuable perspectives on grit, personal growth, and the ever-changing world of sports.