Clayton Kershaw, Joakim Noah In Studio, CFP Rankings, Eagles Big Win + Listener FAQ’s

Summary

Pardon My Take – Episode Summary

Episode: Clayton Kershaw, Joakim Noah In Studio, CFP Rankings, Eagles Big Win + Listener FAQ’s

Date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Clayton Kershaw, Joakim Noah

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Overview

On this episode, Big Cat & PFT Commenter deliver their signature blend of funny, irreverent, and insightful sports commentary on a packed lineup. The show features two star guests:

• Clayton Kershaw (freshly retired, baseball legend)
• Joakim Noah (former NBA star, new travel show host, in-studio)

The episode covers the latest in the College Football Playoff (CFP) rankings, Monday Night Football (Eagles’ big win over the Packers), a whirlwind of listener FAQs, and takes from around the world of sports. As always, the hosts jump between deep sports knowledge, roast sessions, and off-the-wall tangents.

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Table of Contents

1. College Football Playoff Rankings & Discussion
2. NFL: Eagles’ Win & Reactions
3. Hot Seat / Cool Throne (Hosts’ Takes)
4. Clayton Kershaw Interview
5. Joakim Noah In-Studio Interview
6. Listener FAQ’s & Final Segment

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1. College Football Playoff Rankings & Discussion

Timestamps: 03:22–17:52

Main Points

• JMU and Group of Five Debate:

  • PFT (a JMU alum) pokes fun at the CFP committee bias, citing "anti-president" discrimination and joking that “maybe the College Football Playoff committee has gone woke and they don’t want any presidents in their bracket.” (03:29)
  • Arguments over the Group of 5 playoff spot: If South Florida wins out, they deserve the spot; controversy could erupt if North Texas sneaks in after a title game upset.

• Voter Hot Takes:

  • Discussion of “ball knower” AP poll voters and goofy ballots with teams ranked strangely, e.g., Alex Taylor ranking JMU #15 and Louisville unranked—despite Louisville beating JMU. (04:41)

• Wild CFP Scenarios:

  • "If South Florida goes to the conference championship game and loses, and they put North Texas in… then we riot." – Big Cat (07:15)
  • JMU has to “beat the shit out of everybody… and that still might not be enough” to be selected, leading to frustration and high entertainment for the show.

• Power Programs & Heisman Race:

  • Top 5 unchanged: Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A&M, Alabama, Georgia.
  • Indiana-Penn State game: hosts praise the wild finish, “This is why we love college football.” – Big Cat (08:46)
  • Gus Johnson’s “give him the Heisman” call for Mendoza.

• Key Quotes:

  • “The committee’s just a bunch of losers anyway. Unless they want to put us on the committee.” – Big Cat (15:18)

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2. NFL: Eagles’ Win & Reactions

Timestamps: 31:57–47:01

Main Points

• Eagles Defeat Packers at Lambeau:

  • Big Cat acknowledges doubting the Eagles; PFT refuses to apologize for his takes.
  • Newfound "Bears-Eagles alliance" discussed—both teams helping each other in the NFC by beating common opponents.

• Game Breakdown:

  • Eagles should have won by more; Packers offense is broken—“They’re in the Bills category right now… just broken.” – Big Cat (34:49)
  • Eagles offense stagnated at times (“Either a 3-and-out, or they score a touchdown. No in-between.” – Memes at 36:26), but their defense was “insane,” with special praise for Jalen Phillips.
  • Questionable late-game coaching: Sirianni’s 4th-and-9 aggressive decision, Packers attempting a 64-yard field goal.
  • Tush Push banter, with fans calling for it to be outlawed due to the Eagles’ unique success in executing it.

• Stats & Fun Moments:

  • Packers’ first consecutive home losses in 12 years (45:49)
  • Eagles with Nick Sirianni: 55 wins in 4.5 years—more than the Giants’ entire franchise in the last 10 years.

• Giants Fire Brian Daboll:

  • Mocking the Giants’ string of disastrous post-Coughlin coaches.
  • “McAdoo by a long shot” holds the best win percentage since Coughlin.

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3. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

Timestamps: 58:45–67:12

Rapid-fire takes on who/what’s “hot” and “cool”:

• Hank’s hot seat: He’s “pretty sick”; possibly a lefty golfer now.
• PFT’s hot seat: Joe Flacco, with Joe Burrow’s return looming.
• Cool Thrones:
  • Country Roads (unexpected origin story about the song’s popularity in Germany)
  • The Niners as a playoff sleeper pick

Quotes & Moments

• “I might be a lefty golfer now…” – Hank (61:00)
• “The Bengals basically control their own desk.” – PFT (65:40)

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4. Clayton Kershaw Interview

Timestamps: 84:37–115:29

Main Points & Highlights

• Retirement Life:

  • "Zero motivation to work out at all." – Kershaw (85:11)
  • Jokes about rapidly gaining weight.

• World Series Run & Final Moments:

  • Details on the Dodgers' epic World Series—praises Yamamoto pitching on zero rest ("He's got huge balls. That's just what it comes down to." – 87:29)
  • Classic Kershaw moment: warming up, unaware Dodgers had clinched (“That’s how I found out we won. It was awesome.” – 89:09)

• Reflection on Pitching Dominance:

  • “You don’t realize you’re in the good old days while you’re doing it.” – Kershaw (91:52)
  • On aging: "I'm throwing 88… it's just time."

• Pitcher Guy Stories / Clubhouse:

  • Stories about facing certain batters: Adam Dunn, Dexter Fowler "owned me." (95:32)
  • "If my son ever asks me how to throw a changeup—I’m just gonna… I don't know." (104:59)
  • Naked introduction to Jason Bateman in the clubhouse (103:07)
  • Details the size/weight of a real pitcher’s rubber—“It’s so heavy, dude. So heavy.” (104:03)

• Funniest/Most Memorable Quote:

  • “If you want to fire up your dugout and you want to stare at the ball, I get it… but if you’re looking at me while you do it… I kinda get pissed.” On bat flips (107:03)

• Retrospective Reflections:

  • Discusses friendship with Matthew Stafford; growing up at Highland Park High.
  • Revisits the infamous viral photo with his "whitest crew of all time" at the Cy Young acceptance.

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5. Joakim Noah In-Studio Interview

Timestamps: 116:24–154:14

Main Points & Highlights

• New Show ‘Nomad’:

  • Noah’s travel show launches—first episode with Derrick Rose in Chicago; next episodes in Morocco and Jamaica.
  • "We’re traveling the world. Starting with basketball as the root, and then we’re exploring culture." – Noah (117:08)
  • Recounts working with his shaman and discusses ayahuasca experiences as therapy and self-discovery.

• On Life After Basketball:

  • The relief and new perspective of being the interviewer for a change.
  • “Everybody just wants to be heard… especially when you’re traveling.” (123:02)

• Travel Show Spoilers & Jokes:

  • Hosts urge Noah to bring ‘Nomad’ to Cleveland for maximum views and self-aware redemption for his past Cleveland roasts.
  • Love for underdogs: “If Haiti played USA, I’m for Haiti… I just know what it would do for the people.” (136:32)

• Hoops Talk:

  • Extensive praise for Victor Wembanyama (“We’re seeing something we’ve never seen before… appreciate it!” – 127:35)
  • How to attempt defending Wemby and NBA’s evolution.
  • Bulls chemistry, French basketball explosion, and the importance of team chemistry: “People always underestimate chemistry.” – Noah (151:31)

• Classic Stories:

  • The infamous Carlos Boozer hair moment
  • All-time Joakim hosting Chicago parties/advice moments

• Funniest, Most Memorable Exchanges:

  • Big Cat selling himself as a “problem” for Wemby in the paint
  • Noah’s story about being the “ratio fixer” at parties (131:44)
  • (On Giannis’ uncalled travels) “Just let it go, man. It’s not that bad.” – Noah (126:11)

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6. Listener FAQs & Final Segment

Timestamps: 155:45–174:00

Highlights

• Bar Exam Bit:

  • PFT’s lifelong bit about passing the bar exam, with increasingly convoluted logic and group debate.
  • “I just think I can do it. I have irrational confidence.” – PFT (156:48)
  • “You just have better things to do with your life.” – Big Cat

• Shoehorning in Old Show Jokes:

  • Revisiting “body wash doesn’t work on your armpits” debate (163:53)
  • Song parodies (“Drink Paint,” “Bank,” etc.)
  • "Let's get these two married" as a hated Instagram caption

• Lottery Ball Machine:

  • Banter about who will finally guess the correct number (Memes’ “cursed” losing streak), accusations of bullying, and ritual lottery draws to end the show.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

On CFP & CFB Rankings:

• “I think it’s an anti-president thing. Maybe the CFP committee’s gone woke and they don’t want any presidents in.” – PFT Commenter (03:29)
• “Then we riot. Then we go crazy, then we burn this down.” – Big Cat, on playoff snubs (07:15)

On the World Series & Kershaw’s Retirement:

• “He just says, hey, I’m good. I’m gonna do it. And he did it.” – Kershaw, on Yamamoto’s heroics (87:29)
• “Zero motivation to work out at all. Zero.” – Kershaw (85:11)
• “You don’t realize you’re in the good old days while you’re doing it.” – Kershaw (91:52)

On the Eagles, NFL Takes:

• “They’re in the Bills category. Broken right now.” – Big Cat (34:49)
• “Eagles are too good on offense to get shut out for a half.” – PFT (36:12)
• “Tush push… They love to take a shot on fourth down.” – Memes (40:36)

On Joakim Noah’s Show/Life After NBA:

• “We’re traveling the world… we’re not fucking around. Please go check out the show.” – Joakim Noah (117:08)
• “The medicine brought me places that definitely put me at peace with things I had turmoil in my system.” – Joakim Noah, on ayahuasca (120:09)
• “I like it when you talk like that.” – Joakim Noah, as Big Cat boasts about bodying up Wembanyama (129:03)

On Sports Fandom & Coaching:

• “Being great is boring. That’s the part people miss.” – Noah (148:18)
• “You just have to get back in the boat… and root for them.” – Big Cat, on supporting your team in tough stretches (28:03)

Closing Lottery Segment:

• “That’s grit. Maybe we’ll do one this year.” – Big Cat, on PMT music parodies and inside jokes (167:03)

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Tone & Style

Consistent with PMT’s signature style:

• irreverent
• deeply knowledgeable on sports
• rapid-fire humor
• welcoming, “locker room” camaraderie
• lovingly roasting guests and each other

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If You Only Have Time

• For college football drama and absurd playoff scenarios: 03:22–17:52
• For NFL banter and Eagles/Packers recap: 31:57–47:01
• For an all-time Kershaw interview: 84:37–115:29
• For Joakim Noah (and travel, shaman, NBA, Wemby): 116:24–154:14
• For classic PMT fan Q&A, bits, and roasts: 155:45–174:00

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

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[Zach]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Martin M. Yeah. Barn and M. Y Barn and M.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Barn and might take me. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, November 12th, and PFT. Are we ready to get mad at the college football selection committee about what they're doing to your James Madison Dukes?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I mean, no, I'm. I'm going to be like perfectly unbiased in this situation.

[Big Cat]

I'll be mad for you. You'll be unbiased.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to be unbiased because here's, here's the reality of it. I think it's a anti president thing. I think maybe the College Football Playoff committee has gone woke and they don't want any presidents.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

In. In their bracket.

[Big Cat]

Makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

It's sad. I mean, just fast forward 20 years, Trump University probably will be blacklisted too.

[Big Cat]

And I get it all. Trump University didn't play nobody.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they'll make up something about it. No, I actually think the, the committee for the most part got it pretty right now, JMU is ranked ahead of South Florida in the AP vote. And as we all know, those voters really know their. And they're dialed in. I was actually, I was listening to our good friend Tom Fornelli's podcast and there's one voter. I'm gonna get this guy's name. This is my AP voter of the week.

[Big Cat]

Well, there was that. Yeah. There was that woman of a month and a half ago who just went off vibes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

She's just like, they asked her about it, she's like, yeah, I just do what I want to do.

[PFT Commenter]

No, this guy is a bald knower. I actually, I, I respect this dude because he had an awesome, awesome poll. The guy's name is Alex Taylor. Shout out Alex Taylor.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's a football writer. He works for newspaper in Wyoming and he had Jamie ranked number 15.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

In the country. Now, the funny part was he had Louisville unranked.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is interesting because Louisville, they beat jmu.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But I, I don't know how that worked out, but I'm very. I want to subscribe to this guy's newsletter because I think he knows what he's talking about.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, it's right now, I think that, that all the group of five schools should be rooting for Duke. That's, that's where the money's at. Because if Duke, if they somehow win the acc, there is a chance that we get two group of five schools.

[Big Cat]

Well, if we're going off of our friend Tom Fornelli, who is looking like he will be the college football expert. He did write an article, I'm aware, saying that Duke, with four losses as an ACC champ, will still get in. And then he also ended his article, which everyone should go read on CBS Sports. He ended his article being like, but let's be honest, Duke ain't running the table.

[PFT Commenter]

They're probably not.

[Big Cat]

Probably not. But a boy can dream.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a moot conversation. I honestly. You know what? It's Veterans Day as we're recording this. Thank you for your service, everybody. I'm just rooting for Navy this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Who.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know who's Navy playing this weekend? I think that's what we need to root for. South Florida as American. South Florida.

[Big Cat]

South Florida. Who is the highest ranked Group of 5 team in the country at 24 on the College football rankings. Here's so, so let's talk about the rankings because we'll go backwards. We'll go go from the, the bottom or. Sorry, yeah, from 25 down. But the whole deal is the highest group of five champion is going to get a spot. Right. South Florida is now ranked 24. JMU is not ranked. So you would be inclined to think that if South Florida runs the table, they will, let's just say it. South Florida wins out. They will be in the playoff, which I think you would agree deserved because they went and they beat Florida, you know, in the swap. So that, you know, that's a, that's a big, big time win.

[PFT Commenter]

But they, they also take into account who the players are.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like we saw that with fsu.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple seasons ago. And is, is Lagway, is he still the starting quarterback at Florida or.

[Big Cat]

He. But he, when they beat him, he was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I know. I'm just saying because he's not as good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the guy that they're putting in for. No, you're right. Like beating, beating Florida is. It's a massive win for usf. They should not discount that. I think that it's pretty clear right now when it comes to. Comes to how they're going to play this bracket out. I think JMU Just has to beat the shit out of everybody that they have on their schedule. And that might still not still be enough, but it'll be enough to get me really angry, which is what I'm kind of hoping for.

[Big Cat]

And so what I was going to say is if South Florida runs the table, I, I will be disappointed for you. I'll be upset for you. But I also understand that South Florida is deserved to go in. Where I will skullful for you is if South Florida goes to the conference championship game and loses to North Texas and they put North Texas in, then we, then we go crazy, then we riot, then we go crazy, then we burn this down.

[PFT Commenter]

I would agree with that. And also I think that most of the metrics they use, I think JMU's got UNT. I think they're, they're above North Texas and just about everything they look at.

[Big Cat]

But then they might do the whole. Well, South Florida, North Texas only had one loss. It was South Florida. They avenged their loss. They're basically undefeated. It's it. I could just see it happening.

[PFT Commenter]

They. The ncaa, I know it's not the College Football Playoff committee. They just, they're, they're ready to Me, they're all lubed up. My cheeks are spread wide. I don't want to get any more graphic. You want, you can you can you.

[Big Cat]

Can you fill in the blanks.

[PFT Commenter]

So what happens next?

[Big Cat]

So, so as for the actual rankings, in terms of how it plays out for the bracket, we had no real change at the top. So Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A and M, Alabama, Georgia, the top five people were like, hey, maybe Indiana will be jumped by Texas A and M because Indiana struggled at Penn State, which by the way was unbelievable game that throw and catch Mendoza to Cooper, I believe insane. Just an all time. This is why we watch college football. This is why we love college football Moment.

[PFT Commenter]

We did a bad job on Monday show. Yeah, we should have let it off Rip Gus Johnson.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yes, he did.

[PFT Commenter]

He passed away during that play. His spirit left his body.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean I'm so bummed too that we didn't get. Jeremiah loves having an incredible season. That touchdown he had against Navy on Saturday night was Heisman worthy. He doesn't have any big games left. He plays pit. This weekend we'll talk about Pat Narduzzi and Hot Seat Cool Throne. But he doesn't have a conference championship. So we. The. The Heisman bet did not work out this year. And I'm a little bummed because watching Mendoza do that and then Gus Johnson Say give him the Heisman. That really is all it needs to win the Heisman. You just say it. If you just say it after a play like that, there's. The majority of the voters are watching because it's during the day. It's not too late. Their bedtime hasn't come yet. They watch that game and they're like, oh, he said give him the Heisman.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, Gus Johnson told us, I will do that.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually listen when Gus, like, basically nutted himself during that, that touchdown pass, a lot of people are like, that's too much, Gus. Listen, when you get Gus Johnson, that's kind of what you sign up for. My only problem with is when Gus does that at like 11am local time. It's. It's too early for that. But yeah, this, that was an awesome game. Awesome finish. I don't think that you should ding Indiana too much for that. That's a, you know, it's a tough place to play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So top five is. Is the same. Texas Tech jumps up because Texas Tech absolutely demolished byu. One of those games that in the final score looked like the. Demolished them and it still wasn't indicative of how bad they demolished them. Texas Tech is really good and their defense is legit. Legit. Ole Miss went down because they played the Citadel. Oregon, that was another one where it's like, there's something about Kinnick, there's something about Iowa. They just make you play. They basically make you play in like a back alley, you know, brawl where people are just throwing arms and shits flying everywhere and you have a plan. But then you get to Kinnick and the plans out the window and they dragged him to the depths of Iowa football. And Oregon impressed me. They played big boy football. Dante Moore, with that huge throw at the end of the game that was impressive. Go to Kinnick. Kinnick, you get extra points. In my mind, when you win a Kinnick like that.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a great throw that he had. Yeah. That's one where I, I know he's not going to win the Heisman.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

But that was a reminder of like, this guy is legitimately great. Yeah. And let's, let's make sure to keep Oregon in the conversation. And yeah, when you go to Iowa, it's like you. Iowa's offense can be contagious. And I think everybody. They get a little touch of Iowa.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When they get there. And then I will beat you. With experience.

[Big Cat]

I did. Did like, I can't remember exactly what point of the game it was, but Iowa Had a first and goal and they threw the ball and it, I don't. It was essentially a trick play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because everyone expected a run. Everyone. There was a moment, everyone watching. Everyone's on the field. The only people who didn't expect a trick run were the 11 guys on the Iowa's offense. I bet you guys who were on Iowa's defense watching on the sideline expected a run. Yeah, it was a trick play.

[PFT Commenter]

There was a moment at the end of the first quarter, they blew the whistle and you looked at the scoreboard and it was two nothing. I was like, yeah, all is right with the world. Yeah, this is the good stuff right here.

[Big Cat]

And it was two nothing. And it was actually, it was a weird two nothing. A really weird two nothing. Because it was two nothing. Oregon because Iowa screwed up in special teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But he made the puncher, made a great play. Kicking that out without. Great play.

[PFT Commenter]

It was an awesome play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Without doing a second of research on it, I would, I would guess that up until last weekend, any game that Kirk Ference has coached in, that's been two nothing. He has won.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it doesn't matter which side it's on. That to me it's like that, that was in his wheelhouse. But yeah, credit to Oregon. Don't, don't sleep on the Ducks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the, the, the Ducks, I mean, they have actually a tough finish this season because they have to play USC and Washington. I think they have Minnesota this week. But so as we keep going down Notre Dame, they jump up a spot. Notre Dame has a game basically to get in with Pitt because they're going to win their other two games. I think Syracuse, I can't remember who else on their schedule after that. Maybe Stanford, but Oregon or Notre Dame is going to be in. Yeah. Syracuse and Stanford got it. I'm locked in. Texas and Oklahoma both move up. Oklahoma, by the way, watch out. Watch out Oklahoma against Alabama. I'm just going to say watch out. That's my watch out game of the week.

[PFT Commenter]

I was going to say watch out Georgia.

[Big Cat]

I think Georgia's kind of turned it on. Texas has also figured it out and righted the ship. But Georgia, that offense, they don't have the same defense, but that offense.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm saying. Like Georgia, yes, Georgia's good, but they're, they're not like the uber dominant Georgia teams that we've seen in the past.

[Big Cat]

I, so I, I would have agreed with you until what I expected them to have a little bit of a dogfight. With Mississippi State. And they killed them. Yeah, killed them. And Mississippi State's one of those teams, has been in every game, even though their schedule or their record is not great. And then so Oklahoma at 11, and then you, because you have right now they, they have to project the bracket. It would be Miami, who's at 15. They're projecting, obviously, I believe that that would be the ACC champ, which they actually, I think on the, on the outside looking in right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I got a major problem with the committee.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It has nothing to do with my, my personal biases, whatever they may be. I try to play it pretty close so that nobody really knows who I'm rooting for. But the way that they enter the room. Take off your hats to enter the room. That's, that's what they say. Take your hats off. Leave your hats at the door when you go inside. In theory, they're saying if you are the athletic director at Michigan, you take your Michigan hat off when you enter the room. That way you're only speaking as a committee member, not representing your school. Huge problem with that. The hat, they give you a hat before you go into the room, right. And the hat says College Football Playoff. And so you're going in the room and you're taking off the hat of neutrality and you're hanging up the College Football Playoff. You should have your own team's hat on. If you're going to do a hat thing, wear your hat and then put the hat on the thing. Don't give you an impartial hat and be like, take your hat off.

[Big Cat]

When I first saw the video, I was like, oh, is the side of the hat have their school.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, it's just a neutral. It's so stupid. It's a CFP hat, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Big Cat]

The committee's just a bunch of losers anyway. Unless they want to put us on the committee. Then we'll definitely be like, hey, you guys are awesome. Great job.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say. Yeah. This week I agree that they're losers. Yeah, we'll see what happens.

[Big Cat]

So basically what, I mean, it weren't a lot of surprises. The big question is going to be, is the ACC a one bit league, which we assume it will be. There's a world it could, could not be, but it's most likely going to be because Georgia Tech still plays Georgia. So if Georgia Tech.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Runs the table, is a one loss, team loses in the ACC championship, you could have a world where that, that works out for them.

[PFT Commenter]

I think in all likelihood, we're going to get a deserving ACC champion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So ACC will get one team. Big 12 could get two. BYU is right. You know that was they did not look good but they if they get to the Big 12 championship they have a chance to to avenge their loss. And if they do that then you put Texas Tech and BYU in the Big Tens most likely going to get three. Four is going to be pretty tough to do with. You're going to need it to come from the Michigan or USC realm because you had Iowa lose and a three loss Big Ten teams not going to get in. And then the sec. The SEC is looking at anywhere from five pretty much guaranteed to eight and that's what Greg Sankey is saying. He said on Monday I think there's a real scenario where the SEC is an eight bid conference. I've had many conversations with individual selection committee members and we've discussed how Missouri, Vanderbilt and even Tennessee simply deserve to be in the playoffs. It's a no brainer that the SEC has carved out at least six to eight spots in the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Tennessee.

[Big Cat]

Well and especially because Tennessee and Vanderbilt have to play each other at the end of the season. Yeah I listen five maybe six because you know if you go down the list Texas A and M is going to be in and Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss. So what's that four right there and then a combo of Texas, Oklahoma, Vandy and then I guess Tennessee saying that they're talking to him.

[PFT Commenter]

You're pushing a little with Tennessee they might be pushing. You're pushing it a little bit. Although I do understand the premise which is you got to anchor the conversation. You got to ask for nine teams and then you'll get six in. That's kind of how it works.

[Big Cat]

Yeah but that's really what we're, we're dealing with now and I'm I College football is the best. It's been, it's been a joy to watch. I didn't miss ESPN at all on on Saturday because we had that Indiana Penn State game which was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's just been feels like we're in that realm right now. We have a big games this weekend. That Oklahoma Alabama game is going to be great. Some elimination games coming up.

[PFT Commenter]

Very excited about that. I got, I got a, a stat here that just came across my desk. Of the two top ranked group of five schools blind resume one school has in in their losses has led a hundred percent of the first halves. The other school blind resume yet again has in their in their losses they have led 25% of total halves, which is better?

[Big Cat]

I say 100.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I, I would agree. One school has not lost on a single Saturday.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Undefeated on Saturdays.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

The other school has lost twice on Saturdays.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

And what day would the College Football Playoff have that group? Would that be the Friday game or the Saturday game?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if they've.

[PFT Commenter]

I could be undermining my point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think it's. I think it's up for grabs. Yeah. They don't know yet.

[PFT Commenter]

You better hope to God that it's. That it's on a Friday. If you don't put the undefeated on Saturday team. Man, these are just facts. These are just facts. Now, these schools could be anybody.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it's been, it's been great to watch. I still think Ohio State is, is that much better than everyone else. And we'll find out, though. Indiana and Ohio State feel like they're on a collision course.

[Memes]

What?

[Big Cat]

What? Any other big thoughts? Zach, you have any thoughts about college football? Great job on the game time ad read.

[Zach]

I appreciate it, sir. I don't have any. I don't have any big thoughts on the college football players right now.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I got. I have one other thing in college football. LSU and Brian Kelly. The divorce. So apparently LSU is claiming that they're firing Brian Kelly for cause. I don't think we know what that cause is yet, but this was on. On three. LSU's representatives had a call with Coach Kelly's representatives where LSU took the position that Coach Kelly had not been formally terminated and informed Coach Kelly's representatives for the very first time that they had grounds for termination for cause. So LSU is maintaining that Brian Kelly as of two days ago on Monday, had not been officially fired yet.

[Big Cat]

So I read into it a little last night and it seems like they're trying to get away with a little bit of Scott Woodward fired you and Scott Woodward doesn't work here anymore. Which is a. I love this. Yeah, because it's kind of like, I think maybe they're going to go with the we fired. We didn't fire him, but he did stop showing up for work.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think they're also going to go with the we fired Scott Woodward for cause. Therefore, anything that he did at the end of his tenure was also not an official act of LSU and their athletic department because he was fraudulently working for the athletic department despite being in breach of his contract.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, I think in Louisiana it plays.

[Big Cat]

I do, too.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's ironclad.

[Big Cat]

You like Brian Kelly thought that he was going to go to Louisiana and do a fake Southern accent and get away with it. No way. He wasn't getting out of. Out of Louisiana with his full, his full contract. No.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to do a fake out, we'll do a fake contract. How about that?

[Big Cat]

That's what they're doing. It's, it's just, it's a very funny and very Louisiana story. I hope they, I. They're gonna have to pay him something. I hope they don't pay him all of it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so he originally asked for, or they, they asked for him to accept 15 million, I think, and then they asked for him to accept like, like 25 million. And he was like, no. And then that's the end of that negotiation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's like, why would he say yes to any of this?

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, all right, then, I'll see you Pistols at dawn. Brian.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Just give me, give me my. Give me my money.

[PFT Commenter]

Better be careful in Dubai. Lots of gators. They very hungry out there.

[Big Cat]

Pay this man his money. Okay, last two things I had. I have one fun fact for you because we were talking about this on Wake Up Barstool and I was on with Eddie and he. We were talking about the patent Arduzzi, which again, we're talking about hot seat, Cool throne. Pitt has played very well since they've switched quarterbacks. They have a big game against Notre Dame. I'm excited for that game. It's been a fun game. Did you know that Pitt once. Larry Fitzgerald and Aaron Donald go to the hall of fame, which they. 100 will. They will have. They'll be third all time in colleges to send to the NFL hall of Fame. Isn't that pretty crazy?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Just off the top of my head. Larry Fitzgerald, Aaron Donald, Darrell Revis, Dan Marino.

[Big Cat]

Yep. They had Jim. Jimbo Covert from, From the Bears. Who. Offensive lineman, who was, I think, Dan Marino's offensive lineman. They. Yeah, they have a. They have an incredible list of college players who've gone on to have. So be. No. Notre Dame with 14, USC with 14, Pitt with 12.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for them.

[Big Cat]

And then obviously Michigan, I mean, has Tom Brady coming up. Michigan is at 11 right now, Ohio State 10. It's pretty crazy when you think, when you look at the list and you see the schools, you're like, oh, that's Pitt. They just have some of the best players.

[PFT Commenter]

There's one more still playing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you consider Joe Flacco, D.E. well, he didn't he go to Pitt.

[Big Cat]

I think for a year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I Guess. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You count down the record books.

[Big Cat]

All right, let me look it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe Shady McCoy too. He should be in the hall of Fame. Yeah, just for the snow games, but it's just.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Tony Dorset. Let's see. University of Pittsburgh players in the Pro Football hall of Fame. Joe Green, Dan Marino, Tony Dorsett, Russ Grimm, Darrell Revis.

[PFT Commenter]

Scrim.

[Big Cat]

Jimbo Covert, Mike Ditka, Chris Stolman, Ricky Jackson, Curtis Martin. Forgot him. Joe Schmidt. Pretty good. Yeah, pretty good. Pitts got it going on.

[PFT Commenter]

They do.

[Big Cat]

I also love pick colors. I think they have underrated some of the nicest helmets colors. Except when they go to that the Larry Fitzgerald colors are the worst. The. The gold and dark blue.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When the light blue and yellow are awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree. When they look too much like Georgia Tech. Yeah, I don't like that either. Should we just do a quick recap since Max, we got you here. Hank's not here. He's on the couch. He's or he's not on the couch. He's playing golf right now for work. You want to do a quick recap of the 6 or Celtics?

[Memes]

Sixers won the. Won the game.

[Big Cat]

Zach, what do you think as Hank6.

[Zach]

Did win the game. It was close game.

[Big Cat]

Nick and neck game. You know, I like this Hank a lot more. He's so much more agreeable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, anything could happen.

[Memes]

Was really good in the second half. But you know, role players for the Sixers stepped up.

[Big Cat]

What do you think?

[Zach]

I think that was a good one for the Sixers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Emotional roller coaster for Max, but good one for the Sixers.

[Big Cat]

This Hank is really nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, what do you think about Don Quixote? Have you started reading it yet?

[Zach]

I got a. You guys said audiobook didn't count, so I started audiobook. Reconsidered that. We're going to dive into some chapters soon maybe.

[Big Cat]

All right. Okay. I had two last things real quick. One, I have a question for you guys. Well, it's not a qu. Yeah. You could just weigh in. I had the first fun Saturday in a long time with Wisconsin beating Washington. They. They won 13 to 10. What are you laughing about? Memes? Nothing. What? Nothing. What?

[Memes]

I think this is the second time you've said too.

[Big Cat]

All right. Sorry. Sorry. I thought you guys were doing on purpose. No, I had a last stat. That was the last stat is the last thing Wisconsin won on Saturday was awesome. I was excited. It was. Came on the same week that Luke Fickle got his job secured for another year. There's a. I feel like people just need to fan how they want to fan. Because I was getting criticized. Not by a lot of people. It's not a big deal, but, like, you jump ship. You were, you were critical of Luke Fickle, dude. What, what do you mean? We won. We, we had won two games this year. We didn't go to a bowl game for the first time in 20 years last year. I being critical of things not working is what you should do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But this is, this goes back to, like, European football and soccer. It's like, if you're, if you're Fickle out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then you don't get to reap any benefits while Fickle's in.

[Big Cat]

Well, here's the thing. I, I, I disagree with the decision. I've said that. I think Macintosh and Fickle, if you asked me last week, I'd like, yeah, I think we should clean house. Now that they're not. I'm like, I'm going to root my ass off for both guys to succeed. I do not want them to fail. I'm not going to be a salty guy being like, I have to be right. I want Luke fickle to win 10 games next year. I want Chris McIntosh to be the best AD in the, in the world. If they're both kept their job, it's like getting back in the boat. You're like, all right, let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what you got to say? Anytime you do the, the Fickle out, you got to finish it with, I would love to be wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You still get the root for your team.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

You can, you can have opinions on where you want the team going forward.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Memes]

But you don't. That doesn't mean that it's like, okay, I don't get the root for my, for my alma mater anymore. It's bullshit.

[Big Cat]

And it's also, I think, I think the correct way is how I'm dealing with it. Where once they're, once they're said that Fickles coming back, I am not going to say, we got a fire fickle, like, until the end of next year.

[PFT Commenter]

If it goes bad again, like, boycott the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, I'm going to root for him. I want him to succeed very badly. I want, like, if I could do anything to help, I will do anything I can to help. That's. That doesn't change. Like, yes, I felt one way once they said that he's keeping his job. Let's go. I want him to be the coach of Wisconsin. If he's a coach of Wisconsin for the next 10 years, that means turned around and I'm happy and everything worked out and it would be great. I want nothing more than that. I'm not rooting for him to get to fail next year if he doesn't succeed. He knows that he's out. So I want him to, I want him to succeed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But I also understand people just being like, they want to talk online.

[Big Cat]

No, of course, I get that. But I'm more like the. I, I don't. I, I hate the people who are always positive and never will see, like, being like, well, it might turn so I can't ever say, yeah, like this is bad. Yeah, because it was bad. It's been bad. And one win doesn't change it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's a lot of people that after every game, for the most part this season, they've had plenty of people to dunk on afterwards, plenty of people to get upset with. And then after a win, it's like, wait, I still feel like I got to be pissed off at somebody after a football game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Fuck you, big cat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was, it wasn't a lot of people. So I'm not, I'm not overly concerned about it, but it's more, this is, this is something all fans go through where it's like you are saying, hey, we need a clean house. The clean house doesn't happen. What do you do? You got to get back in the fucking boat. You got to just be like, let's go, we gotta. I'm not gonna stop rooting for them. I want them to succeed.

[PFT Commenter]

You shouldn't stop rooting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it was, it was a good win. It was, it was. I felt joy for the first time on a college football Saturday about my own team in a long time because we, you know, the two wins prior to that were two wins against, you know, bad teams that you're supposed to beat. It was just nothing but shitty, shitty feelings for basically this entire season and half of last year. So it feels good. And also we won a game with our punter having the most passing yards.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Although I like Carter Smith, he's our four star freshman quarterback. Wasn't a lot of throwing in his game, but. He's a dog. He's a dog. He was running the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

I like, I love the fact that you won a game with your, your punter as your leading passer.

[Big Cat]

We had two or two freshman linebackers at 30, now 30 tackles.

[PFT Commenter]

Was your punter also the, the third string quarterback wearing the same jersey number?

[Big Cat]

Listen, we've had some quarter one Thing you could say about Luke Fickle is he's had not the easiest run of quarterbacking because every single year the quarterback's gotten hurt. But you know, I will admit that.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what I'm talking about like the, the USC thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The USC trick play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, I listen, I'm fine. I'm fine with shenanigans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was big time shenanigans. Also, shout out my quarterback, Caleb Williams, for putting me in his Instagram store post.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see that? I did not see that.

[Big Cat]

He was.

[PFT Commenter]

That didn't come across my desk.

[Big Cat]

It was. It was just like a recap of November and it was just ups and downs of games and I was me just looking stressed in the gambling cave. And at first it was like, is this bad? And then I DM'd him. I said, that's my quarterback. I love you. And he harded both of them. So it made me feel good.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

And then I scrolled up and I remembered when I tried to tell him he should come to Wisconsin to and we could sell a lot of T shirts and he was like 19 years old and it made me feel like a shithead again.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's cool though. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach, any thoughts on that?

[Zach]

I think that's love.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That is love. Okay, back to ourselves. We're going to talk everything else. Monday Night Football and then we will get to Clayton Kershaw and Jokim Noah. Okay, before we get to Monday Night Football and hot seat cool throne, we are brought to you by DraftKings. The NBA season's rolling and DraftKings newest game, Pick Six is the easiest way to play for your shot at big wins. Here's how it works. Just pick more or less on two or more player stats. The better your picks, the bigger your payout. Pick six gives you more upside than those other pick them sites and it's available in most states including Texas, California, Georgia and more. So nail your picks tonight. And don't just win. Stack up those payouts. New DraftKings customers get $50 in Pick 6 credits with just a five dollar entry on your first pick set. Don't just watch basketball. Pick play, cash in. Download the DraftKings pick six app now. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE. Play just $5. Get $50 in pick six credits. Make the call. Ride the upside. In partnership with DraftKings pick six, the crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler, help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7-7777 or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut must be 18 and over. Age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick six not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Void where prohibited. One per new customer bonus awarded as non withdrawable. Pick six credits that expire in 14 days ends December 2nd at 11:59pm Eastern Time. DraftKings.com promos okay, Max, congratulations. The Philadelphia Eagles have beaten the Green Bay packers to close out week 10. I formally apologize, but I'll do it on this show. I apologize for doubting.

[Memes]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

The Philadelphia Eagles. I did bet on the Philadelphia Eagles. I was very happy the Philadelphia Eagles beat the packers because now the Bears are tied for first in the NFC North. But I apologize. I was wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

I do not apologize.

[Memes]

Thank you. Thank you, Big Cat. I. That was very mature of you.

[Big Cat]

You got it. You gotta say when you stand up.

[Memes]

Very mature of you.

[PFT Commenter]

You'll get no apology. I believe. I believe the take was that the Eagles would have rather played the packers off of a win than a loss. I still believe that to be true.

[Memes]

That wasn't the take. The take was that are you happy that the packers won or lost this.

[PFT Commenter]

That game?

[Memes]

Which I was happy that they.

[PFT Commenter]

And I thought you should have been sad.

[Memes]

Even though. Yeah, the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what's great about this take is it can never be proven wrong.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Memes]

It can because they won.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but imagine how much you would have won by. If the packers had won the week before.

[Memes]

I didn't think about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you didn't think about that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

In all honesty, Max, I. I was wrong. But I'm not going to apologize. We don't apologize. We don't apologize for takes on this show.

[Memes]

That's fair. Thank you for being immature, Big Cat. Thank you for being mature.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, I was more apologizing because I actually was very happ. Beat the packers and also won the money. So. Yeah, the alliance. So there's an alliance going around the Internet right now. The. The Bears Eagles alliance. The Chilladelphia Beagles. Remember we sold those shirts. They were awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cats always had an alliance with the Eagles.

[Big Cat]

I have.

[PFT Commenter]

You've had a weird thing with them.

[Big Cat]

Well, they play good football. And guess what? They. We have an alliance because the Eagles have beaten both their NFC north foes. And the packers and Vikings, they have to play the Lions on Sunday night. And the Bears in kind have beaten the Giants, Cowboys and Commanders. It's an alliance. When we play on Thanksgiving, Black Friday, it's gonna be sad. You gotta. You gotta finish off the alliance. Maybe a tie.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

That would be funny. Then it would be the funniest alliance ever.

[Memes]

You would win that tie.

[Big Cat]

Yes, big time. Oh, my God. I'd sign up for a tie right now.

[Memes]

I would not sign up for a tie.

[PFT Commenter]

So I did walk away from that game thinking that the. The Eagles should have won by a lot more. Like the Eagles were a much. They were a much better team than the Packers. The Eagles are an awesome team. They should win every game they play with that roster. They should.

[Big Cat]

I mean, top to bottom, best roster.

[PFT Commenter]

Eagles are great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is no shade at all to the Eagles, by the way. The fact that they let the packers hang in there was not. It didn't speak well for them, but I still think that they're a great team. The packers, on the other hand, I feel like Tucker Craft was the most important. He might be. He might get my vote for mvp.

[Big Cat]

But is it Tucker Kraft? Because they've not looked great in a lot of games and not looked offensively in flow in a lot of games. So, yes, he's very important. Obviously something's wrong. Something's broken. They're in. They're in. The Bills category are broken right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they have allowed 39 total points and 780 total yards in their three losses this season. That is the first team to average fewer than 40 points and fewer than 800 yards over their first three losses of a season since the Detroit Lions did it in 1940. So, yeah, their defense is great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very good. I've just. I've seen this song and dance too many times. I'm not going to bury the packers quite yet because I feel like they are going to figure it out. But they looked bad and more. It was. It was partially. They looked bad. There was that one drive they had where they opened it up a little bit, and I think that's what a lot of packers fans are saying is like, open it up like, you know, let. Let Jordan Love play with some tempo, start slinging the rock. I think the Eagles defense is nasty.

[PFT Commenter]

They are.

[Big Cat]

That was my big takeaway from this game because I know the game wasn't great. I feel like the first half, especially because you had a nice Eagles drive, anytime you have a 16 play drive or whatever it was that ends in a fumble, you feel a little let down. And it wasn't the. The best game in terms of, you know, you want points. But the Eagles defense is really, really good and Jaylen Phillips was a monster and they, they feel like they're rounding into that type of form. Again, the question is, is Kevin Patula. Is he the guy?

[PFT Commenter]

So I, I want to give him some credit because out of halftime the Eagles offense looked a lot better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So he saw they made an adjustment at halftime and it ended up working out very well for them. But that first half, like. I don't know, Max, you. Do you kind of agree that the Eagles are too good on offense to get shut out for a half?

[Memes]

Yeah, the first drive looks good. I mean, they, they started the drive at the 9 and got it down to the 12 before Hertz fumbled. So there was at least something in the, for in the early stages of the first half, but yeah, there were times where, where it went stagnant. The Eagles are very strange on the way that their offense is set up. For some reason they either go three and out or they, or they score a touchdown. Like, there's no. It either looks so bad and you give the ball back so quickly, or it's a good drive and a touchdown and there's no really in between. It was a cold night. Jalen Hurts did not look like his best. He missed a lot. He missed the fields. Like was 19 in the, in the stadium. Definitely, Definitely cold night.

[Big Cat]

Guys were wearing no sleeves.

[Memes]

They.

[Big Cat]

No, but like even. No, but even. Even. Non offensive linemen. Yeah. Football players. Okay.

[Memes]

I mean, it was, it was for sure a cold night.

[PFT Commenter]

A.J. brown had a kerchief on.

[Big Cat]

A.J.

[Memes]

Brown was wearing a headband around his neck. Is that what that is? That is. I don't know what a kerchief is.

[PFT Commenter]

Perhaps an ascot.

[Memes]

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. No. The offense looks sloppy, but the defense is insane. Jalen Phillips is the piece that the defense was missing.

[Big Cat]

How he did it again, it was.

[Memes]

Very nice to get Nolan Smith back as well. And like the way that defense needs to play is that now we can get rotations in and like the defense can just go 100. Like the D line can go 100% on every snap. And we didn't have that the last couple weeks when we didn't have Nolan Smith and obviously didn't have Jalen Phillips. So defense looked awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Very happy about the way the defense looked. Not too worried about the offense.

[PFT Commenter]

It was interesting at the end of the game because, boy, yeah, somehow the packers got the ball back with enough time to drive down the field and attempt like the saddest 64 yard field goal that I've ever seen. But when they were, when they were going down the field earlier, they, they had a fourth down. They ran it out of shotgun. LaFleur was like, yeah, I wish I'd called a play that worked. When they asked him, hey, do you regret running out of shotgun? But apparently the Eagles knew it was coming.

[Memes]

Moro Jomo, Just an absolute beast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So according to Josh Jacobs, he said, obviously people are smart. I kind of disagree with that.

[Big Cat]

Some people.

[PFT Commenter]

Some people are smart. He said, if we've got code words or whatever, you hear it a few times, you're going to eventually react to it. That's football. It's never a good feeling. They called it out. We called our play. They said, inside zone, it's coming right here. So I didn't want to run it right there, but yeah. So the Eagles knew it was coming.

[Big Cat]

They knew it was coming.

[Memes]

The packers, you can hear it on the broadcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, it's inside zone. It's coming right here. That's not great for the packers that they don't change up their calls.

[Big Cat]

No, their offense feels broken. Yeah, it, it, it definitely feels like there's something going on that they gotta, like, they gotta figure it out before it's too late. Can we talk about the end of the game? Because it, it was basically both coaches were like, hey, let's just. Let's just be dumb asses and see what happens. Nick Sirianni going with a 4th and how. How long was it? 4th and 8. 5.

[Memes]

4Th and 9.

[Big Cat]

9. 4th and 9 with 27 seconds left. Deep shot to AJ Brown, giving the Packers a chance. They had no timeouts, but they only had to get about 30 yards to get in real field goal range. And it was fourth and eight. And I mean, Max. That's. Why aren't you 1. Kicking a field goal to, like. Cause if you kick a field goal and you miss it, you're giving him the ball right there. Instead you went for fourth. Fourth down and you missed it. I don't know. It was crazy. Did you not think it was crazy in the moment?

[Memes]

I didn't think it was crazy. I'm always going to be on the side of like, win the game, win the football game and the football game. But the more you look back at it, I think probably the best decision would be to punt it. But you, like, that's assuming that you get the ball within the 10. If you get the ball within the 10, pooch punt. The game is over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it was the automatic recommendation according to the stats, was go for it. Oh, so might. But that's what the. The Eagles love to do that on fourth down. They love to take a shot on fourth down.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, I. We. That is a very common play for the Eagles of like, let's. We need a first out. We need a first down to win the game. Let's throw a deep ball. Touchdown.

[Big Cat]

I guess it is.

[Memes]

Got the. Hertz made a bad. It was a bad throw. We got the look that we wanted. It was AJ Brown, one on one, streaking towards the end zone. And Hertz just under. Threw him a little bit.

[Big Cat]

But. And they did burn six seconds, which. That. That was smart to. To run a play like that where you throw the ball. But it did give the. I left the gambling cave because I was like, the game is over. Went upstairs to do something, came back down. I was like, wait, the packers had the ball again. And then on the other side, I don't for the life of me understand why the packers attempted that field goal. I feel like the chances of getting a Hail Mary were higher than Brandon McManus with a hurt leg in a cold, windy Lambeau Field hitting a career long.

[PFT Commenter]

It wasn't that cold.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't that cold. Yeah, but it was windy.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're right. You're right. That was. That field goal was ambitious at best. I do respect the fact that he took that free shot at it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like when.

[Big Cat]

Which was a decent attempt. The second one was not.

[PFT Commenter]

Sirianni called a timeout like, five seconds before the ball was snapped. They snapped it anyways. He got a practice shot in there. Landed. Yeah. About a yard short. And then the second time he just. He tried to kick it as hard as he could to get that extra yard. Did not work out. But, yeah, I walked away from this game thinking that the Eagles are a very, very good team and it would be mildly infuriating to root for them because they don't score as much as they should.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Wait, where did you see that? It was a go for it situation.

[PFT Commenter]

The fourth down decision bot.

[Big Cat]

Oh, because ESPN analytics had a clear punt situation. This is why you can't trust analytics.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the first time that ESPN's ever recommended to punt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

During the game, it's always like 98.6.

[Big Cat]

Win probability with a punt. 93.7 win probability, going four for it. This is why you can't trust it. We need one analytics.

[Memes]

Yeah. The thing is, like, if you get it within the 10, then. Yes. Like, if you can guarantee that you get the ball, that you punt the ball within the 10, you obviously take the punt. It's impossible. It's almost impossible to get down into a field goal situation from that spot. But if you kick it in the end zone, it's from. From the 20. 15 yards of different like 15 yards difference.

[PFT Commenter]

Like so that I. I don't think that you can fully estimate whether or not it was the right decision unless you know where the punt ended up.

[Memes]

Yeah, exactly. Like it's. Everything is a risk. No matter. There was no safe. Safe call last night for Sirianni and I don't hate him going. Going for the win.

[PFT Commenter]

We had some back and forth on the Tush push to start the game. Oh, yeah, we had some with the Packers. It's not touch push. They do like a quarterback sneak. But they jumped off sides. Didn't get called. The Eagles jumped off sides. I thought that the Eagles offsides was a little bit worse. Max.

[Memes]

I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Than the packers, but they were both offsides.

[Memes]

Yeah. And then the packers did it again and they did get called for and they got.

[PFT Commenter]

They got.

[Memes]

But then the Eagles never did another one.

[PFT Commenter]

But if you had done it again, you would have wanted the refs to call you offsides.

[Zach]

There.

[Memes]

There was parts of me that I was like, I don't want to do another one because they're just going to call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No matter what.

[Memes]

Like. Yeah. So, like, when we got to the there. There was a couple times where it was like the Eagles could do two tush bushes here and get the first down. I was like, they're just going to call a false start because they just called a false start on the Packers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So I didn't. It was like one of the only times I wasn't just like automatic. Just. Just do the push push.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I do love the salty fan that was holding up the poster that said boo. The Tush push.

[Big Cat]

It was great.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a great poster. The. The O's in boo were zeros, though. Like that guy, he didn't stop by the O stores.

[Big Cat]

He has font wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

The font was wildly incorrect on it. But yeah, respect to that guy for just being kind of a. A bitter bitch about it. And my take is consistent, which is I hope they ban it, but they shouldn't. I hope they ban it because the Eagles are so much better at that play than anybody else. And I would. I would prefer them to not be able to dominate teams with it. But if you're asking me if the play should be banned. No, no, it's. It's not their fault that they're better at it. Yeah, I guess it kind of is, but they're just better at it.

[Jokim Noah]

Deal with It.

[Memes]

It's over. Like, I. I saw that. I. I wish I knew who said this. It was a great theory on online this week is that refs are.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good segment.

[Memes]

Are purposely not calling the false starts so that they can use that in the off season to ban it.

[Big Cat]

They're getting some tape. Yeah.

[Memes]

They thought of how can we get a reason of why this should be banned. Say it's hard to officiate it. Don't officiate it correctly, then it'll be banned.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, false flag. Yeah, literally.

[Memes]

Like the refs see it and they're not calling it on purpose so that they can ban it in the office.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they did that when they ran the tush push and then Jalen wasn't down.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And he fumbled the ball.

[Big Cat]

Is that what happened?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that. That had nothing to do with the tush push. But then the reaction to it was this plays impossible to officiate. No, that was.

[Memes]

That was just bad call.

[PFT Commenter]

That was just a guy running with a football and fumbling and you blew the call on it and the right.

[Memes]

Yeah, the refs just missed that call. That was not even in. That was not in the scrum of anything. You could. No, anyone could see that he fumbled that ball. The ref just didn't call.

[PFT Commenter]

And also when they run the tush push and guys jump off sides, why don't you just call that? Is that that much harder to call a false start on that play than it is any other.

[Big Cat]

Weird. Their brains just shut off when the tush push happens.

[PFT Commenter]

They become fans.

[Memes]

Like doing it on purpose. I wish I could give credit to the person that I credit to that guy, whoever said that. Great. I. Great call because I think you're correct. And I think that this is the last year of the tush.

[Big Cat]

Last two things I had about the game. I have two stats for you, Max. We shared this with you before the game, which was crazy sad. It's a wild stat. Shout out. Jake Marsh. The packers have not lost home games in consecutive weeks in exactly 12 years. The last time it happened was November 10, 2013. And then last night, it happened again November 10, 2025. It's pretty crazy. That's a lot of years. The. If you want to put it in perspective, this podcast was dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. In.

[Big Cat]

In 2020 13. Xbox controllers still had wires. IPhone fives had not been released. Jordan Love was only 26 years old.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

It's nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

And what GTA were we on?

[Big Cat]

We were on GTA 6.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Wait, which one Are we getting next.

[Zach]

If we get one. GTA 6.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so we were on GTA 5. We were actually on GTA 5. And then the other stat max, you're gonna like this one. PT, you'll like it too. As an NFC east guy. The Eagles in four and a half years with Nick Sirianni have 55 wins. The entire Giants franchise in the last 10 years has 54 wins. And that segues us to Brian Dable. You're fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Got the ax.

[Big Cat]

He got fired.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we saw it coming after that Denver report where it was like they almost left him in Denver.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then like another embarrassing fourth quarter implosion. That would be. And this wasn't as bad clearly as the field goal.

[Big Cat]

The field goal against the Bears. That field goal on the one yard line.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. That was a tough one.

[Big Cat]

You're a bad team. Just go for it.

[PFT Commenter]

And do. Do we think that Brian Dable like got fired and then did the who's coming with me and then looked at Jackson Dart?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, like definitely.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to come? Jackson Dart looks like team.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what your name is because I've been in the blue ten a million times.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on. Come on, Jackson. You love me, right?

[Big Cat]

I also think so. He was probably going to get fired no matter what. And this is also why the Giants should have fired both guys, Joe Shane and Brian Dable last year when everyone knew they were going to get fired. It was so stupid that they did it this way. But I bet you there was a small part of it like Jackson Dart is our franchise quarterback. I think Jackson Dart is really good. He's been in the blue tent a lot. We got to get a coach in here who does is not fighting for his job. An interim coach, Mike Kafka not fighting for his job and not going to run Jackson Dart on every single play.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't understand why Shine is sticking around Joe Shane. Joe Shane. So Joe Shane is going to get to hire the next coach.

[Big Cat]

He is apparently very close to Mr. Mara, which happens a lot because the GM just has more face time.

[PFT Commenter]

So Joe Shane, he. Yes, he did draft Jackson Dart, but I read that he wasn't like the biggest Jackson Dart guy in the front office. Like there were other people that were pushing for him. So he can't really take credit. I'm sure he'll try to take credit for the Jackson dark pick.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe his son told him to draft him. But then I don't understand why he is going to be around to select the next Head coach when he then would have presumably a shorter leash.

[Big Cat]

He's close to Mr. Mara.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he would potentially be fired. And then we'd have a new GM with a coach that was hired by the last guy.

[Big Cat]

I assume every single NFL franchise works basically the same way that if a coach is on the hot seat, the GM is basically sitting in the owner's office watching practice, being like, can you get a load of this guy?

[PFT Commenter]

I told him not to do that.

[Big Cat]

He sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

I told him no field goals inside the two.

[Big Cat]

He stinks. But yeah, the, the, the, the coaches since Tom Coughlin were coach the Giants, who do you guys have a guess who has the highest winning percentage since Tom Coughlin?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to guess. Is it McAdoo?

[Big Cat]

It's McAdoo. McAdoo by a long shot.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Ben McAdoo had a 46% winning percentage. Brian Dabel 33. Joe Judge 30. Pat Shermer 281. And then Steve Spagnola interim 250. So they are all well below under.500. McAdoo was the closest and he got a raw deal.

[PFT Commenter]

He did.

[Big Cat]

I think it was the big suit. When you put on a big suit, you look like a fucking child. You're going to get fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Earlier then he had the slick back hair.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Looked like he had a sloppy stakes.

[Big Cat]

And is not real piece of Ben McAdoodoo.

[Memes]

Yeah, macad doo doo. I think if you didn't have the easiness of, of the media saying be macadoodoo he probably would have had a longer leash.

[PFT Commenter]

Combined with the fact that he just looked like a model train guy. Like he had $50,000 worth of model trains in his basement.

[Big Cat]

But it really is so crazy that the Giants even brought these guys back because everyone saw the writing on the wall and then it happened and now you've. Yeah, there's going to be new coaches. There's, there's names out there, but you did have a chance at Mike Frable is doing pretty damn. I don't know how much of a chance at Mike Vrabel, but Mike Frable was obviously looking for a job. Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, three guys who have done decently well so far in 10 games in their new teams and they just like, yeah, let's just go with Brian Dable. Even though we know we're going to fire him. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a weird choice. I still like Brian Dable. I think he could one day be a good head coach somewhere.

[Big Cat]

So if you're thinking Brian D is going to be a coach. I was thinking about this because it's rare that a guy gets a second shot when they really suck at the first shot. The best. The. Oh, Brian Dable spotted for first time after Giants firing. It's always sucks in New York when it's when the paparazzi's out there.

[PFT Commenter]

What's he doing?

[Memes]

He's wearing a Penn State sweatshirt.

[Big Cat]

Oh, by the way, you know who the big winner of this is? The Buffalo Bills. Bring him on as a little consultant.

[PFT Commenter]

They said that they're not going to do that. I feel like they have, but it does. It would make a lot of sense. That was my first reaction is like, yeah, he. He had that offense helmet.

[Big Cat]

What I was going to say though is Brian Dable. Most coaches don't get a second shot if they were really bad. The first shot. That's just like when we think of second shot guys, they usually had shown something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The closest one.

[PFT Commenter]

Coach of the year.

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Brian Dable was coach.

[Big Cat]

No, I know, I know. But he also was really bad the other four years.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

The closest one is actually very appropriately also New York. Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles, his first year at the jets, went to the playoffs and then the next three years. Nope or what? He won 10 games. Fucking blew it in Buffalo. He won 10 games.

[Memes]

That was close.

[Big Cat]

Sorry.

[Memes]

That was close.

[Big Cat]

That was closer.

[Jokim Noah]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

He won 10 games.

[PFT Commenter]

Punch in the face.

[Big Cat]

He won 10 games. He won 10 games. My bad. You're right. He did not go to the playoffs. He won 10 games his first year. Then he finished fourth. Then he finished fourth. Then he finished fourth. Brian Dable went to the playoffs his first year, then he finished fourth. Fourth, fourth. Their records are very eerily similar. Todd Bowles was 24 and 40 with the Jets. Brian Dable was 20 and 40 with the Giants. So that would be. But then again, Todd Bowles also was in a weird, you know, coaching waiting spot with Bruce Arians. It just doesn't happen often that a guy. If you suck really bad, you don't usually get that second shot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Bruce Arians pretty much said, Todd Bowles is going to be your next coach.

[Jokim Noah]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm going to step down and that's how it's going to be because.

[Big Cat]

Everyone'S always like, oh, well, Belichick or Mike Shanahan or like, yeah, but those guys weren't, you know, Belichick had the Browns in the playoffs, did he not?

[PFT Commenter]

Belichick. I'm not sure if they got to.

[Big Cat]

The playoffs or they were Close.

[Hank]

They were close. Before they disbanded.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, before they disbanded.

[PFT Commenter]

Team broke up.

[Big Cat]

But a lot of the guys who get second chances showed at least something in the first chance. I don't know. I. I think he'll get a second chance.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he will, too, because I. I think he's. I think he's got it in him.

[Big Cat]

Mike Shanahan went 7 and 9, so he's actually kind of. He got. That was an Al Davis thing, but he went 7 and 9 his first year with the Raiders and then 1 and 3 and then his second chance with the Broncos.

[PFT Commenter]

So if you look back at coaches of the year, 2022 was day ball.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Matt Nagy's in there.

[PFT Commenter]

2021 was Vrabel. He got fired a couple years later. Before that was Stefanski Harbaugh, then Nagy, then McVeigh, then Jason Garrett, who was then fired, then Ron Rivera, who was then fired.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Basically your team is supposed to be bad and they're good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Stefans. He's won it twice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So that's Brian Dable. Should we talk about other firings? Nico Harrison. See ya.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I was shocked.

[Big Cat]

I can't believe it. What? Why would they do that?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Actually, the funniest part of this report was that it was like 9:30 in the morning Central time.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Shams tweeted out that Nico Harrison is expected to be fired in a meeting taking place at 10:00am Central Time with the ownership group. So Presumably Nico had 30 minutes where he knew that he was fired before the meeting. You can't do that. You can't do that because a guy like Nico. Guy like Nico.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's liable to trade Anthony Davis back.

[Big Cat]

To the Lakers right away. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to lock him out of your email, take away his card. But yeah, Nico, see you later.

[Big Cat]

It's. He's the worst. I feel bad for Mavs fans. Still, you do have Cooper flag. Not because of Nico, because of the luck of the lottery. It probably didn't help that Luca has started this season absolutely on fire where he's scoring. I think half of the games he's scoring over 40. And every single night he's, you know, close to or not having a triple double.

[Hank]

And Anthony Davis is hurt.

[Big Cat]

Anthony Davis is hurt. The Mavs are not good. Do you think that the Mavs owner maybe, like, tuned into a Lakers game is like, oh, this guy's good?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Wait.

[Hank]

Holy.

[PFT Commenter]

Lost the weight. They.

[Big Cat]

I think they played. Did they play? No. I don't know if they played yet. Do you think Rob Pelinka texted Nico Harrison and said something like, man, I would do it again because I really think we both won.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he said, I owe you one. Yeah, like, thanks.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, we, you know, that's just how it goes. But I. I really think that was a win. Win.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a good trade.

[Big Cat]

It was a good trade.

[PFT Commenter]

In 10 years, they will be singing your praises.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're gonna. At some point, you're going to be proven correct about this. Maybe not today.

[PFT Commenter]

He had some other hits, didn't he? Some other, like, not resigning. Jalen Brunson. I think that was Nico.

[Big Cat]

I can't remember if that was Nico or not, because I think Nico. I think he also. He fired a bunch of people. Yeah, he's. Whatever. Rob Plinker just has to give him a job.

[PFT Commenter]

Or maybe the NBA gives him a job.

[Big Cat]

NBA gives him a job.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you for sending Luca to the Lakers.

[Big Cat]

Nike gives him a job.

[PFT Commenter]

Make it right on the back end.

[Big Cat]

Maybe the. The fake tree business that Kawhi works for gives him a job. A lot of jobs out there.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he'd be pretty good at planting fake trees.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he would. He'd. Fuck that.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be an awesome job.

[Big Cat]

He would. He would definitely tell someone that he's doing that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then it would. Like Pablo wouldn't have to find out.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Nico would just say it.

[PFT Commenter]

Just do your own podcast talking about all your dumb ideas.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Body Armor Flash iv.

[Big Cat]

Go get it today. That was delicious, Hank. Hot seat, Cool throne.

[Hank]

My hot seat is me. I'm pretty sick.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

Don't feel good? Started snowing.

[Big Cat]

Is it because you went after the nfc?

[Hank]

No, I don't. NFC can bring it on. We'll see you guys in February.

[PFT Commenter]

Pro Bowl.

[Hank]

I just don't. I don't feel. I feel pretty sick. As. As you're blaming the snow, I'm blaming the cold. Yeah. The weather.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Isn't feeling pretty sick. Feeling sick?

[Big Cat]

Are you sick?

[Hank]

It might be sick. I feel pretty sick.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you sick?

[Memes]

Like, so now we're all sick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, now we're all sick.

[Hank]

But, like, maybe not. Maybe you can get away from me.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you get a flu shot?

[Big Cat]

I've been trying to do that every day.

[Hank]

Did I get a flu shot?

[PFT Commenter]

That's a no.

[Big Cat]

Do you know Stephen Shay got a vaccine for covet again?

[PFT Commenter]

Checks out.

[Hank]

Hell, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Seventh. Donnie got a booster every year. I didn't know they had a booster. I didn't know they were still doing it.

[PFT Commenter]

President Donnie, I mean. Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

And then also we're doing a. A Barcelona dark stream tonight that might not end. And there's. There's. It's a. It's a bad feeling walking into this office in the morning knowing that there's a Chance.

[Big Cat]

Especially when you're pretty sick, you don't leave.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you. I thought you were pre sick because you're sick in the head now. Because Hank, I don't want to tell tales.

[Clayton Kershaw]

No, you can tell.

[Hank]

You can tell it. It's. This is awesome. Maybe I'm pretty sick because I've been having. I didn't sleep last night.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Hank caught left handedness, which he said it's a pre existing condition.

[Hank]

I might be a lefty golfer.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you've been trying.

[Hank]

Yeah, this is Max's fault.

[Big Cat]

And you're good. Yeah, it's natural.

[PFT Commenter]

The swing looks way better. Yeah, way better. So much better than swing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Can you hit it far?

[Hank]

I can hit it the same distance.

[Memes]

I've had.

[Hank]

I've taken like 20 swings and. And some of them are pretty solid.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. So you never tried it?

[Hank]

No, I just had like, growing up with me and my brother just shared like a. You know, I didn't play that much golf. We had a set of righties in my house.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so you could do both?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's right.

[Big Cat]

Like depending on where the lie is.

[Hank]

Well, you can't have two sets, but.

[Big Cat]

Well, you could have a couple gonna.

[Hank]

But now it's like it's bothering me. It's keeping me up. I'm gonna have to experiment more.

[Big Cat]

This is why you're sick, is because you took a couple shots lefty and then you didn't sleep?

[Hank]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

I. I don't know. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

He's been thinking about non stop.

[Big Cat]

Not Don Quixote.

[Hank]

It hasn't got yet.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[Memes]

It's because we. Hank and I were talking, you know, snowstorm. Hank was trying to wait it out a little bit, and I was like, I'm so bad at golf. I wish I wasn't so bad. And then Hank was like, I think I could probably beat you left handed. And I was like, there's no. I was like, there's no way that you could just beat me from the opposite side. And then.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

Took a couple swings left handed. And now he thinks he's left handed and he's blaming me for ruining his life. Because if I never said that he could beat me left handed, then this never would have happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's just. He's thinking back over the last, what, six years of his life thinking, what.

[Hank]

If I haven't thinking about that. I've wasted four and a half years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hey, so you might be just good at golf.

[Hank]

I might be more. I can. Maybe my. My ceiling Is higher.

[Big Cat]

Potentially more good at golf?

[Hank]

Yeah, my ceiling is higher.

[Big Cat]

We'll see.

[PFT Commenter]

How long until Lefty Hank could beat Ready Hank?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Clayton Kershaw]

We're gonna.

[Hank]

I think I'm gonna go Lefty December. Like, just only practice Lefty and see, it's crazy. See how it goes.

[Memes]

Do you think Lefty Hank could beat Lefty Max right now?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, I think you could.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

The swing's smooth.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. You're able to do that.

[Memes]

I don't think.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm telling you, Lefty Hank is.

[Big Cat]

Max is hoping that we all said, no way.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a different guy. Lefty. Lefty Hank might be good on camera.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's still mental, but we'll see.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So what's your cool throne?

[Hank]

My cool throne is the government travel. Travel ban.

[PFT Commenter]

Airports.

[Hank]

Cool thrones.

[Jokim Noah]

Airports.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank keeps calling it the travel ban.

[Zach]

I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he means the government shutdown.

[Big Cat]

Why do you keep saying the travel ban?

[Hank]

Because it feels like people are banned from traveling because the shutdown is so bad.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

But I think they're passing. Passing a law to unban, unban traveling.

[Big Cat]

Unbelievable.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty good.

[Hank]

So, yeah, I don't know. The. There's the whole. Turn a bill into a law, whatever. But I think it just needs to pass one more vote, and then we're. We're Gucci.

[PFT Commenter]

We're back.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

But, yeah, that people. I mean, it seems like it's been a nightmare, a national nightmare, and it's soon to be over.

[PFT Commenter]

Good. We're back. And you're pre sick. Tsa. Pre sick.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm TSA pre sick.

[Big Cat]

I don't like this pre sick stuff.

[Hank]

I need to take a nap.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You got a long night ahead of you. Maybe not.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you gonna be chipping Lefty already? Did we ever ask that lefty?

[Big Cat]

So you're just a lefty golfer now.

[Hank]

I'm gonna try. I'm gonna do the first, like, hours.

[Big Cat]

It just happened. You're a lefty.

[PFT Commenter]

But the way Hank thinks about it, it's like he can golf as much as you want because it's all new. Like, Lefty Hank now gets to practice as much as righty Hank used to practice.

[Memes]

More.

[PFT Commenter]

More. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

My cool. My hot seat is Joe Flacco. Yeah, because there's new Joe in town. Same as the old Joe. Joe Burrow's back. I forgot that Joe Burrow was coming back this year. That's how good Joe Flacco was. Yeah, because he was Losing a lot of the same kinds of games that Joe Burrow would lose.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So when I saw the news and everyone's like, oh, man, look, Joe, bro. Can I just say it didn't. It didn't. I didn't even think about it for one second because it's not. I love Joe Burrow. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's bad as a dry hacking cough.

[Big Cat]

I love Joe Burrow. The Bengals season, nothing's going to change. Joe Burrow comes. It's actually probably worse for the Bengals because Joe Burrow, I would assume coming back from injury, is going to need a game or two to feel good again, and they don't have a game or two. And they also just give up a million points.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it's not a knock against Joe Burrow to say that.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Flacco was a good replacement. That's just who the Bengals are.

[Big Cat]

It's the Bengals defense.

[PFT Commenter]

The Bengals defense is a problem.

[Big Cat]

If the Bengals defense. If the Bengals were.500 in their defense, showed some sign of life, I'd be like, oh, fuck, the Bengals could make the playoffs. They could be dangerous because Joe Burrow is better than Joe Flacco. But it doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

All that said, I think maybe watch out for the Bengals.

[Big Cat]

No, the defense. Let me see their schedule.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at this. They play the Ravens twice, I think.

[Big Cat]

By the way, do you want to.

[PFT Commenter]

This.

[Big Cat]

This actually hurts me because I'm in. Think about. Think about playoff mode. Or they play the Steelers, the Patriots, the Ravens, the Bills, the Ravens, the Dolphins, the Cardinals, Browns. I'm not going to worry about the Bengals. What's their record?

[PFT Commenter]

3 and 6, 3 wins.

[Memes]

If they beat the Steelers this week, they're one game back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's the thing in the division. I'm not saying that they're going to get 12 wins.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't even know if that's possible right now. I'm not a math guy.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but.

[Big Cat]

All right. Watch out for the Bengals.

[PFT Commenter]

What I'm saying is the.

[Big Cat]

No, you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

The Bengals basically control their own desk.

[Big Cat]

When does. When does Joe Burrow come back?

[PFT Commenter]

After Thanksgiving.

[Memes]

No, he's eyeing Thanksgiving.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

First comeback.

[Big Cat]

But the problem is, which would be.

[Memes]

Good for Thanksgiving, we have to root for him to come back.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

It's good for things.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

You guys have persuade me. I.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen.

[Big Cat]

I love Joe Burrow. I want him to be back. I want. The Bengals are a fun team. When Joe Burrow's playing, they're Just their defense is so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I thought that. I thought Glazer said that it was going to be after Thanksgiving. I thought he clarified it. They make that up.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. You guys want. You guys want a little stock tip? I don't think they're gonna be a. I don't think they're. They're like a deep run team. But I was just looking because I'm in. I'm in. Let's see the playoff modes. And this actually doesn't help the Bears, but if you take a little look, see, at the Niners schedule the next month, if you were trying to buy stock in something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There might be a spot where you could buy some stock in the Niners, because they might. There's a chance the Niners could rip off some wins here in the next few games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You want to pull up the Niner schedule?

[PFT Commenter]

Jay Glazer reported Thanksgiving. Ish.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

That can mean a lot of stuff.

[Big Cat]

Do they play Thanksgiving night?

[PFT Commenter]

They do. That's. That's when Joe Burrow went out. We all panicked because we're like, we're going to have Jake Browning at Thanksgiving.

[Big Cat]

But now we have Joe Flacco.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

So the Niners play at the Cardinals, Panthers at home at the Browns and Titans. I don't know. That could be. Look up and. Oh, Niners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Niners.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Your cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

My cool throne is Country Roads, because me and Big Cat learned.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Fun fact about Country Roads. After we talked about it on part of my take on Monday, friend of the program, Sam Schwarzstein reached out. He had a tough day today, too.

[Big Cat]

What happened?

[PFT Commenter]

President Donnie got back on the mic and started bashing the kickoff rule again. The new woke kickoff.

[Big Cat]

I like the new Kickoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Kickoff. We get more returns.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is nice, but the ball moves and the players don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Think about it that way.

[Big Cat]

But, oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Sam reached out to us.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we got a big sneeze coming. Nope, he held it back. This guy is sick, man. He's sick. You're sick in the head.

[PFT Commenter]

You're sick. Sick.

[Big Cat]

You're sick stuff.

[Hank]

Old man.

[Big Cat]

Tough old man.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Yeah. So Sam reached out to us, and he said that the actual origin of why Country Roads is big in Germany actually goes back to Oliver Luck, to Andrew Luck's dad. He's like the Johnny Appleseed for Country Roads. He was working with the NFL, helping them start NFL Europe. And he, I believe, was a coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he brought over Country Roads and would play it pre game and during the games. Because Oliver Luck is from West Virginia.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And so he wanted to export their song to Germany, and then the fans all loved it. And now that's why they can't stop singing it in Germany. Because of Oliver Luck.

[Big Cat]

Pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty wild story.

[Big Cat]

Pretty cool.

[Hank]

Speaking of songs, recaps from Monday, I saw a clip that a Michigan player talked about how Jim Harbaugh said he used to listen to that wreck of them and Fitzgerald on game days on the way into games.

[PFT Commenter]

That checks out.

[Hank]

Which is so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

That checks out.

[Hank]

Just a hilarious visual.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I don't. I don't really like music, but I do enjoy history.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And, yeah, like, I'm not gonna listen to a pump up song. I'm gonna listen to a song about, like, guys dying on a boat in Lake Superior.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It's great.

[Hank]

It's gonna fire me up.

[Big Cat]

Was this not your cool throne, too?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I got another cool throne. My cool throne is holiday shopping. Yep. And these new sweatshirts. No, no, no, no, no.

[Hank]

You're talking about when you can get these sweatshirts. I don't actually know.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, you're sick. Eventually you're get everybody sick. No, it's. It's holiday shopping because look what we have here.

[Big Cat]

Ladies, you're really trying.

[PFT Commenter]

We've got the Hank dog toy, the car stick. The new car stick.

[Hank]

It's not the new car stick.

[Big Cat]

This is incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

It squeaks. When I tell you that this is Blake's favorite toy in the world. You have no idea how much he loves this thing. It's his favorite thing. When I. When I get home from work, guess what I'm greeted by? Blake with Hank in his mouth. Oh, I love it. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Why don't you like this, Hank?

[Memes]

It's. It's flattering.

[Big Cat]

You have your own dog toy. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that itty bitty waist. Hank, you look good and skinny.

[Big Cat]

What toy you like about this?

[PFT Commenter]

They got the ass.

[Big Cat]

Well, you don't.

[Memes]

You just tried burping over.

[PFT Commenter]

My segment.

[Big Cat]

These are going to sell like hotcakes. I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so Black Friday.

[Hank]

There's no Black Friday.

[Big Cat]

Will not buy the Hank dog toy. The awls are gonna buy the Hank dog.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm telling you, it is a hit.

[Hank]

Why would you. Everyone hates me on this show. All the. All the. All the fans and listeners. Hatred. And no one's buying them.

[PFT Commenter]

Now you can have your very own hat to feed to your dog.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the dog can rip it up. It's more than a dog toy. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What else is it? Memes. I think the vendor said that his.

[Big Cat]

Daughter wouldn't stop saying. He kept hug. She kept hugging it and calling it my Hanky. Oh, yeah, children's toy. Also a children's also for people like Memes. Voodoo doll. I'm sure Memes at home has a bunch of pins that he puts into this one. No, I like Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Maybe Thursday.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. So big. No, it's a great toy, Hank. Listen, I know that there's parts of it that maybe you wish you could change. Like the picture that they used.

[Hank]

Don't say they.

[Big Cat]

Fuck you. What?

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, I thought you. You wanted this show to succeed. You want to make money, right? This is. I think that this is going to fly off the shelves. And guess what? It's a guaranteed profit too. Because Big Cat and I, independently of one another, told our merch people that if they don't sell out, we will personally buy. We told them double the order and if they don't sell out, we'll pay for them and then we'll just donate them to dog shelters. And then every new dog that's being adopted is going to go home with a Hank toy throwing Lil Hanky.

[Big Cat]

It's awesome. Seems like you aren't pumped about this. Oh, it's awesome. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I also can't wait to.

[Big Cat]

Do you have any new merch? No.

[Hank]

These sweatshirts?

[Memes]

No. He does.

[Hank]

No, I don't.

[Big Cat]

What does he have?

[Memes]

Doddington. Bones.

[Hank]

Do have. Do bones.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

The camo hoodies.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wait to have Hank over at my house again after Blake's become obsessed with this toy. Because Blake is going to be like, oh, my God, my favorite toys here in real life. Oh, yeah, he's gonna love you.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, that's coming Black Friday. We got a bunch of stuff. Those sweatshirts are sick too. So get ready. The Hank dog toy. Put it right here. It's good.

[PFT Commenter]

It is. Is something you wanna.

[Big Cat]

You wanna hold it?

[Hank]

Nah. Here.

[Big Cat]

Oh, right in the face. Oh, don't get that on you. He's sick. Sick. All right. My hot seat. Cool throne. My hot seat is the rookies in the NFL because so I believe Trayvon Henderson won Pepsi Sugar. Pepsi Zero sugar. Rookie of the week. But we're having some trouble finding some good rookies every single week because Dylan Gabriel was actually up for rookie of the week this week.

[PFT Commenter]

It's honestly a meaningless award. I don't know why anybody cares about Pepsi.

[Big Cat]

Zero sugar rookie. Yeah. Dylan Gabriel in a loss to the Jets. So he did have two touchdowns. But yeah, I think Trayvon Henderson won. But it's very funny to see that. I wish we should stuff the ballot for Dylan Gabriel to win Pepsi Rookie of the Week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Tyler Shuck should have won that award.

[Big Cat]

Although Trayvon Henderson did have 150 yards and two rushing tds. But my cool throne is Notre Dame football. Because Pat Narduzzi, the coach of Pitt, who is playing Notre Dame on Saturday, had one of the weirdest answers to a press conference question I think I've ever seen. Someone asked him in the press conference. Do you feel like the Notre Dame game is a must win? Pitt is fighting for the playoff because they need to keep winning in the ACC to maybe gets the ACC championship to then get to the playoff. Pat Narduzzi said, absolutely not. It's not an ACC game. I'd gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10. They could put a hundred up on us as long as we win the next two after that. That. That feels. Is he doing this on purpose to then. Because I want to just bet everything on Notre Dame.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that sounds like an. Yes, they. Yeah, they are. They are not going to cover the spread against Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

He is. He is technically not incorrect. Pitt. If Pitt beats Notre Dame and then loses one of their next two games, they will not go to the playoff. Right, but you don't say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Their next two games after Notre Dame plus the ACC championship, those would be against three pretty good ACC teams.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And if they win those. Yes, they.

[Big Cat]

Yes, they will go to the.

[PFT Commenter]

Obviously they will. They'll be ranked pretty high, I would think, if they beat those three teams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but this is. This makes no sense. How do you say that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's weird.

[Big Cat]

Very weird. Very, very bizarre to say that.

[PFT Commenter]

This sounds to me like maybe. Maybe the NCAA College Football Playoff committee leaning on Pitt a little bit. Hey, we got to get Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Notre dame to win 110 to nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

What can you do for us?

[Big Cat]

Actually, he did give himself 10 points in this hypothetical, so that's pretty nice.

[PFT Commenter]

That's weird.

[Big Cat]

Very weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, do you agree that's weird? Can you admit that's weird?

[Hank]

That's very weird.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, that was a little.

[Big Cat]

Hank, Wait.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got an impression.

[Big Cat]

Ready? Zoom.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you zoom in really close on this? Let me know when. Give me a thumbs up when we're zoomed in. Memes.

[Big Cat]

I'm Hank. I feel sick. Oh, we should have made the squeaky toy be a buzzer like that.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so tired. Sorry for my yawn.

[Big Cat]

I might be a lefty. So now I have to golf even more to find out that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

I hate all your teams. And I'm gonna bet against all of them every single week and then pretend that it's not because I hate all your teams. Well, it's because your teams suck.

[Big Cat]

And I was right.

[PFT Commenter]

The teams. The teams do stink. They do stink. I'm just. But I'm also. I have a hater.

[Big Cat]

Speaker. Okay, Zach finishes off.

[Zach]

My hot seat of this week is going to be the residents of Illinois. Residents of Chicago. Residents of Illinois. We're in a spot, boys.

[Big Cat]

We're hitting that S. Have we.

[Zach]

Yeah, have we. Have we talked about the Blob? You guys know about the Blob? Anybody Blob familiar?

[Big Cat]

Is this a weather thing we're talking about the Bean.

[Zach]

It's semi weather. Yes, actually. Yes, it's weather.

[Big Cat]

It's La Nina or whatever. Hot blob. Okay.

[Zach]

We got a blob in the area. High pressure, massive ocean heat wave up in North Pacific. The Blob. You guys blob familiar?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm familiar with like, we, like baseline plays, out of bounds.

[Zach]

We apocalypse.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Zach]

Apocalyptic winter might be upon us.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Zach]

I think inhabitable winter. We might just have to go out of country.

[PFT Commenter]

The good news is we're all going to be dead because Hank has given us anthrax or whatever.

[Big Cat]

What's the Blob?

[Zach]

So the Blob is.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, he's burping too. He's struggling.

[Zach]

Massive, massive ocean heat wave in the North Pacific.

[Big Cat]

So wouldn't a heat wave be good?

[Zach]

So, like, what word on the word? All the weatherman streets is there's this pipeline going through the United States, right? The Blob comes over, affects the pipeline. A lot of hot air goes one way. What happened?

[Big Cat]

My bad now.

[Hank]

Different pipeline.

[Zach]

I think it affects a pipeline. Could be the same pipeline.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you're talking about a pipeline of air.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

We got the. The jet stream.

[Memes]

Maybe.

[Zach]

Maybe jets. I think I'm gonna be Blob specific. Pipeline, but also could affect the jet stream. A lot of hot air going down, but the most cool there you've ever seen going up.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Zach]

So I think. I don't know if we should relocate.

[Big Cat]

This is the Blob for the winter.

[Zach]

Yeah, the. Yeah. Huge, huge blob in the Pacific.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like for Zach to be our weather guy.

[Zach]

All the up and coming weather guys are saying, like this could be catastrophic.

[PFT Commenter]

The up and go.

[Big Cat]

What is catastrophic? Me should be a little colder.

[Zach]

I think just like the coldest.

[Big Cat]

The coldest ever. That just can't be possible.

[Zach]

Potential of been maximum colder. They're saying 2013, 2014 had nothing on this blob.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what does up and coming mean?

[Zach]

You like guys who haven't really made it to the league yet, but like.

[PFT Commenter]

Promising like five star weather guys.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Zach]

Like do a lot of research at home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, top prospect.

[Big Cat]

Listen, we just got to get. As long as football's still on, as soon as February happens, that's when I. I don't want to hear about the Blob.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question, Zach. Yes, sir. When you say guys, it started out being like guys who are like the up and coming weather guys. And then when memes asked that question, kind of changed to guys that might not be weathermen for their profession, but they pay attention to it. Is there somebody that you work around that you're thinking of when you say this?

[Zach]

No one is. No one, particularly a lot of grassroots weather guys who are really trying to make pave their way in the weather space.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so yeah, who are these? Where does one find a grassroot, like weather enthusiast?

[Zach]

Not the news, the grassroot guys. More like TikTok Instagram.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so. All right, so we saw TikTok is what it sounds like.

[Zach]

No, several. This was out this can. The blog consumed me for several, several periods of hours.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It's because you got to think a lot of these guys that get the weather job, they're kind of complacent, these guys. You know, they're hungry, they still want to get. They still focus on getting the weather right.

[Big Cat]

I. You can't, you can't bog down in this. You just gotta let it play out. And if it sucks, it's gonna suck, but it's gonna suck for a month and a half and then we'll be March Madness. Spring will work. You, you were here March Madness last year.

[Zach]

I just feel like you're. You're definitely correct. I feel like the world. There's a world where we just don't get out the blob. Well, I could be the end, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we're. I've. I've followed some of these same guys as you have. And what I'm seeing is not so much about the Blob, but I'm seeing a lot of the tilt.

[Big Cat]

Tilt.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you heard about the tilt?

[Zach]

What's going on with the tilt.

[PFT Commenter]

So apparently, I think it's going to be like six to eight, seven months in Chicago. The way that the Earth is wobbling on its axis, it's actually going to be tilted away from the sun in Chicago. Like, Chicago's gonna be as far away from the sun this year as it possibly could be for like, six months. And that. That's going to be really, really cold here. Maybe look into the tilt.

[Zach]

So we're talking two quarters of the year. Maybe have to move out.

[Big Cat]

We.

[Zach]

We got to go different. We gotta relocate.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, it's. It's. It's a real thing. Just look into the.

[Big Cat]

Fuck the Blob. I guess Mincy was right. Mincy's been saying this for a while now. Okay.

[Zach]

Had a good run.

[PFT Commenter]

We did.

[Big Cat]

We had a good run.

[PFT Commenter]

Some Max never said.

[Big Cat]

Oh, all right, Zach, what's your cool throw?

[Zach]

My cool throw in this week is up and coming Call of Duty Challengers Team Telluride Bush.

[Big Cat]

You're allowed to talk about this. I'm in a. I'm in current litigation with them.

[Zach]

I'm unfamiliar with any litigation. I can backpedal.

[Big Cat]

Well, let me tell you, the litigation, they used my name, image and likeness without signing me to any type of deal.

[Zach]

Was that AI.

[Big Cat]

It was. I don't know what it was, sir.

[Memes]

Are you in litigation against the owners?

[Big Cat]

Anyone associated with Telluride Bush?

[Memes]

Is there anyone in this room that's associated with Telluride?

[Big Cat]

Zack? I'm beat reporting, buddy.

[Zach]

I'm just beat reporting.

[Big Cat]

So are you getting.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're. You're an owner.

[Zach]

I don't know if that's. If that's a factual thing. I just know that they had a fantastic performance this weekend.

[Hank]

They won.

[Zach]

Didn't win. Didn't win, but had some remarkable maps. Did take out Half Optic. Had a team who can dash you on that team that took them out. Stallions, which is Zuma's Challengers team. Great performance against the Stallions. Light work at the Stallions.

[Hank]

You guys are getting worked for free ads right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know if I can support this team. I'm a Nadeshot guy.

[Zach]

That's completely understandable. Hunter or LA Thieves did win the entire tournament. Which is Nadesha's team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Zachary.

[Memes]

Now, since you are arrival of Nadeshot.

[Zach]

No, I can't be anti. Nayshot. That would be denying my, like, entire childhood. That would be.

[PFT Commenter]

So if your gaming team goes up against his team, you're just gonna turtle like they might beat you 100 to nothing. 110.

[Zach]

They got some guys.

[PFT Commenter]

They do. Is this a picture they used? Is that real?

[Memes]

This would be a picture. A picture that didn't ask for his name, image, nor likeness though.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that real? The nail polish?

[Big Cat]

Big Cat, is this real? That's not real.

[Memes]

This is fake.

[Big Cat]

It might be real. I don't know. Someone did point out. They're like, I was like, I'm suing. And they're like, dude, you had nail polish on your, on your toes for, for two, two weeks. I was like, it was way longer than two weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

These are fingers.

[Big Cat]

A month and a half. I'm reading about the blob now.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm telling you, looking at the tilt.

[Zach]

Blob tail combo could be catastrophic.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be a bad tilt this year.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's get to our interviews. Clayton Kershaw and Joaquim Noah.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Jokim Noah]

Today.

[PFT Commenter]

Clayton Kershaw is also brought to you by Twisted Tea. It's delicious. Twisted tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect alcohol and beverage to keep the good times going all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and and make a good time a great time. I love the half and half. It's my favorite flavor. Big Cat, what's your favorite flavor?

[Big Cat]

My twisted tea. I like the original.

[PFT Commenter]

Original is great.

[Big Cat]

And peach.

[PFT Commenter]

Peach is delicious too. Shout out to Harrisonburg, Virginia and everybody at Finnegan's Cove. I. I sent 500 bucks worth of twisted tea over on Saturday after we beat Marshall. I hope everybody at the bar enjoyed it. I know that there's nothing like drinking ice cold twisted tea on a Saturday afternoon. Keep it twisted. Grab a tea. It's game time. Stock up on ice cold twisted tea today. And now, here's Clayton Kershaw.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. He is future hall of Famer, World Series champion, mvp, one of the best pitchers of all time. It is Clayton Kershaw. Clayton, thank you for joining us. We're very excited to have you on. Let's start from where you're at right now. Retired. How does it feel? You're, what, two weeks into retirement, are you? I would imagine it's not much different than usual, like, the first two weeks after a baseball season, but has it set in yet that, like. Oh, yeah, this is kind of. I'm retired now.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, it's starting to a little bit. You know, I think the biggest thing is I have zero motivation to work out at all. Zero. Like, just don't want to do anything. You know, that usually happens after the season, but slowly but surely, like, you're like, all right, I gotta do this to get ready for next season. But with no next season, it's like, I. I guess I need to start working out because this body can get out of hand really fast. But right now, no motivation to do that.

[Big Cat]

That would actually be awesome if you got, like, super, super fat for just, like, one year. Like, it would not.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It would take two months for me. I mean, I could do that in an instant. Like, it is. It is no problem for me to get that big. It'd be easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. For you, though, get to.

[Clayton Kershaw]

That's just what my wife wants to hear.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, like. Like Clayton Kershaw retirement night. And you just come back, you're like, £400. It's like, what the hell? And then you lose the weight.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

I'm gonna.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I'm gonna try to keep it a little bit, you know, in check, but we'll see.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's been a crazy few weeks for you, that World Series. It might have been the best World Series of all time. As you're playing in the games, do you. Are you able to appreciate how good the games are while you're in them, or is it just too much stress in the moment for you?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I'll tell you what, the bullpen is stressful. You know, I'VE never done, I've never done the bullpen for an extended, extended period like that. So just never really knowing when that phone's going to ring and your name's going to call. Like, it's such an adrenaline spike when that phone rings, you know, So I don't know if anybody can really appreciate it when they're playing. But yeah, looking back on was incredible. It was good for baseball, it was good for fans. I mean, we had, I think we had the most viewership in the postseason in a long time. So it's just, it just shows that baseball's in a good spot. And that was a great series, man. The Blue Jays played unbelievable. And I honestly, I don't even know how we won that series, to be honest, but we did and it feels good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Have you, did you go back and watch any of the games on tv?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I've seen highlights I haven't liked. I haven't sat down and watched like a full game yet. But obviously watching the highlights and especially game seven, going back and watching all that, that was, man, what a game. That was crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. As, as a pitcher, can you put into perspective because we were, obviously, we were enthralled by the World Series. It was so, so good. And what Yamamoto did in game seven on zero days rest, like, as a pitcher, how put that into perspective of how hard that is, especially to have no dip in his stuff?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I don't know if you can put it into perspective unless, like, you, you've pitched before, but like, you don't feel good after you start a game, you know, Like, I can't imagine what it feels like to play football like that Monday after a game. Like, I'm sure their are wrecked and they need that full week to get back and starting pitching. Obviously you're not taking a beating like that, but your arm is. Your arm's beat up, you know, and so, and especially where Yama's coming from, he's coming from Japan where they pitch once a week, you know, and they don't really have, you know, they don't really pitch on regular rest. And Yama didn't really pitch on regular the whole season. So it just, it just shows. He's got huge balls. I mean, really, that's just what it comes down to. Like, he just, he just says, hey, I'm good. I'm going to do it. And he did it and, and I'm so thankful he did because we won the World Series because of him. And he's a good dude too, man. He's awesome. He's a lot of fun to be around, and I'm just really happy for him. And I'm happy for me, too, because I was on his team, so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, he's awesome. It was an incredible story. When he's warming up, you're obviously in the bullpen. Were you watching it being like, holy shit. He's like, this stuff is. It's got the same zip.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It was amazing. Yeah, he came out and threw a 93 mile an hour split, like, first pitch. And we were just like, this guy is not human. You know, Like, I mean, splits are not easy to throw as it is. And his command was good. He's getting outs. And then I think he ended up throwing two and two thirds. You know, like, some guys have been the hero and, like, come in for an out or come in for, you know, maybe a couple batters, but he got like 10 outs for us or eight outs or something like that. So it was just. It was a superhuman performance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then I saw the story that when you guys actually won the World Series, you were. You were warming up and you didn't even realize that the final out had happened.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I had no idea. I had no idea. I was. It was first and third at the time, and I thought there was nobody out. So, you know, Kirk grounds in a double play. I'm thinking, all right, two outs, that's great. But run scored, games tied, and there's a lefty that was on deck, Varsho. So he's. He's about to go to bat. And I was like, this is kind of my spot. This is where I'm coming in the game. And so I'm firing bullets down there, trying to get loose. And Bardo, our bullpen coach, looks at me. He's like, what are you doing? We just won the World Series, you know, and so that was. That's how I found out we won. It was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it always the plan to retire after this World Series or if you guys had lost, like, sliding doors moment, maybe, maybe, you know, the runner scores from third and you lose the Blue Jays. Was there a part of you that was like, maybe I am going to come back next year?

[Clayton Kershaw]

No, no, I'm done. I was done. You know, I was. I was. I knew I was done basically the whole season, you know, And I kind of went into this year thinking it was going to be my last one and didn't really say anything until the end. And then, you know, going into the postseason, definitely knowing that it was my last one. So just, I mean, what a way to end it, man. It was. It was so special. I couldn't script it any better than that. And, you know, you look around the league, all these guys are throwing 95, 96 with nasty stuff. And I mean, it's just like, you know, I'm throwing 88, you know, it's just like, it's just time. It's just time to be done. And I'm at peace with that. It feels good and I don't have to try to keep up anymore, which is nice.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's nice. It's nice to contribute to World Series too. I mean, like, without you, like that 18 inning game, for example, how much pressure was on you coming in? Was that the 12th inning that you came to pitch? How much pressure is that? In that moment, knowing that one mistake, it could. It could all be over.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, well, I was just so glad I got the out. Like, that was the last time I ever pitched. You know, that's. I get to say that for the rest of my life. That's pretty cool. The last out I ever got was bases loaded in the extra innings of a World Series game that we ended up winning like six innings later. But, yeah, I mean, obviously that's like bullpen life. You just come in in those huge moments like that and just. I'm super thankful I got the out. You know, I finally got a slider to turn right. The first three or four I threw just went straight as an arrow. So I needed to figure out how to get one to turn right. And thankfully you rolled over and Tom made a good play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So I mentioned at the top, obviously, hall of Famer, incredible career. I want to go back. This is probably a dumb question, but it's. It is a dumb question, but in that stretch of like 2013, 14, when you win an MVP win back to back Cy Youngs, what was it like just being that, like, nasty? Because you. I think you had two years in a row where you had either equal or more strikeouts per inning and your ERA was sub two. Did it just feel every. Every day that you came, you know, to the ballpark and you had to pitch, you're like, I just know I'm going to fuck everyone up.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I think starting pitching is a lot like. It's a lot like golf in some respects. Or it's a lot like, you know, when Steph or somebody gets hot shooting threes. Like, you don't really realize that you're in the good old days while you're doing it, you know, you just. You just know that when you throw the ball, it's going to go exactly where you want to, and you can keep doing that over and over again for a full game. And so I think that's kind of how it was for me. Like, I didn't know any different. I just expected to do that, and, you know, it worked out, but I don't really have an answer for you. It felt good to win. It felt good to get guys out all the time. And I think you don't really appreciate it until you realize that it might not be this good all the time. You know, when I started getting hurt a little bit and the Velo started going down and realized, oh, this game's a lot harder, you know, it can be a lot harder. So I don't think I appreciated it until I can look back and, you know, be done with it all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We have to ask you a question about. Obviously, you went to Highland Park High School, and he had a very famous teammate, maybe one of the best athletes in the history of Texas. Jake Felt. What was it like? What was it like playing with Jake? Like, how dominant was Jake Felt?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I wish you could have seen this guy play six man Y football. Fourth, fifth, and sixth grade. I mean, it was. I mean, it was. They still talk about it here. It's legendary. Jake. Jake was our running back in high school. And obviously, you know, state championship, five touchdowns. I know Matthew told you all this, but, yeah, Jake was kind of who we all, like, looked up to in high school. That was like, the guy. I think he could have played baseball if he wanted to. He probably could have played basketball, hockey, whatever he wanted, you know, it was just. He was just the man. And he's a good dude, too. It was fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Five touchdowns in the state championship.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I think that's right. I mean, they won, like, 59 to nothing. Yeah. So we.

[PFT Commenter]

We want to get Jake on the podcast at some point.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Clayton Kershaw]

He'd be great.

[PFT Commenter]

He seems like, yeah, the straw that stirs the drink. Jake felt.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Jake felt. Yeah. I. I know that it's obviously been talked about ad nauseam. You probably don't even notice because you're pitching in the games, so you're not watching the game, seeing them put up the graphic of you in Stafford every other inning. But it is kind of crazy when you just, like, boil it down. You're, like, one of the best pitchers in, you know, the last 50 years, one of the best quarterbacks. You guys were friends in high school, went to school together, like, that is a pretty nuts story. Maybe we underrated. Maybe we need to talk about it more.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Well, the way Matthew's playing right now, he's going to keep going for another five, six years. I mean, it's been, it's so fun to watch him right now and you know, it's really fun to have him in LA too. I'm a Rams fan now and it's, it's amazing, you know, we're the same age, you know, a month apart and so, you know, I, I can't imagine trying to pitch another season and Matthew's going to be going another, I mean, as long as he wants to, really. So I'm happy for him and he came out to some games and I got to see him after my last home start and talk with him and he's great, man, he's such a good dude and I'm happy for him and it's been fun to be in the same city with him and yeah, I'm a big Rams fan now.

[Jokim Noah]

It's fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love that. What's next for you now? Are you going to get into coaching?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I don't think so. I don't think I'll be a coach, honestly. I don't know. I'm excited to be on the no plan plan right now and just kind of, kind of be home and you know, I'll coach all my kiddos teams and we got basketball season starting up so I'm excited about that. And I still love baseball, I love being a part of it and I love the Dodger organization. So. So yeah, maybe somewhere down the road there's something I can do to help out. But you know, right now I have no idea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, what, when, when you're thinking about retiring and now that you are retired or there is there one or two guys, you're like, thank God I don't have to face him anymore or maybe it's already retired. So who's the guy that pops in your head right when I say that?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I have two right off the top of my head and they're both, they're both done before me. But Adam Dunn and Dexter Fowler, those two guys own me. I think Adam Dunn has like four or five homers and I think I faced Dexter maybe like 60 or 70 times and I think he's hitting like.450 off of me. So unfortunately there's a lot of those guys out there though. I mean I could name, I could rattle off a bunch that just absolutely own me. So that's nice. I don't have to worry about that anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What about the reverse? Is there a guy that you're like, man, I could probably get him out right now.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I don't know about right now, but there are some guys like that.

[Jokim Noah]

I don't.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I, I'm gonna say this guy's name because I played with him in high school on some Junior Olympic stuff, and I know he's a great dude and he won't mind, but Brandon Belt with the Giants, he's another Texan. And Brandon, I, I, he didn't get too many hits off me. I did okay against him. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But.

[PFT Commenter]

But on the other hand, if you're Brandon and, And the one guy that you can say, like, had my number was Clayton Kershaw, that's not that bad. It's like, yeah, he's a great player.

[Clayton Kershaw]

He was a great player, too. He had some great years. He was not against you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, he hit it. 0.065 average, 4 for 62.

[PFT Commenter]

Yikes.

[Big Cat]

You struck him out 30 times.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I wasn't gonna say that, but, yeah, I figured you had the stats there.

[PFT Commenter]

30 times.

[Big Cat]

30 out of 62 at bats. You could, you, yeah, you could get him out right now.

[PFT Commenter]

At some point, I'd be like, I'd take it easy on him. That's your boy.

[Clayton Kershaw]

See, I, I played with him a little bit, and I know him, so I know he's not going to take offense to this.

[Big Cat]

Stats. And we do. Like, obviously, we. The way I asked the question, it's like, you got to basically say, who. Who owns you?

[Clayton Kershaw]

You should get.

[Big Cat]

You should be able to say the reverse and be like, yeah, this guy. And if we ever have Brandon Belt on, we're like, hey, Clayton shirt, Kershaw owns you. And then we'd ask him, who did you always feel good against?

[Memes]

Okay, good.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It just is. Yeah, it's reciprocal. It goes all the way around.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm speaking just as a friend, though. As a friend, you. You might want to just, you know, after the 25th strikeout, do a little class A on the first pitch.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Oh, man. He was. He went to Texas, and he was actually a really good pitcher, too. Played first base over there. And so we have the Texas connection, too, which is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll give you somebody else that you owned was Shohei Ohtani.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. How about that? How about that? Not as many at bats, but yeah, I had a decent run against Shohei.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it 04, 11 against you?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, it was something like that. It wasn't too many at bats, but you Know, I just remember one pop up, he hit about 700ft into the air that if he got a little bit, a little bit more of it was going to go 700ft the other way. So I got a little lucky with Shohei, but, but I'll take it.

[PFT Commenter]

How amazing was that? Were you able to watch Shohei? Like, obviously he's your teammate, might be your friend, but as a fan, when he's hitting three home runs and striking dudes out in the playoffs, were you able to appreciate that in the moment?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I think I was then, yeah. I mean that was just. He. I don't think you're ever going to see another guy like Shohei in baseball. So I think we have to appreciate him now. Like, there's, I'm sure there's a lot of guys in high school, maybe even college that can do both hit and pitch, but, but not like that. Like, not, not be the best at both, basically, you know, so it's amazing. Shohei's and the way he goes about it and the way he handles it all and he deals with all the attention and I mean, I just, I have a lot of respect for Shohei and how he, he handles everything. He does a really good job with it all and he's actually, he's really fun to be around. He's a good dude. Laughs a lot. Good clubhouse guy. Speaks, speaks enough English where we can like talk and hang out, so. But that game was crazy, man. That ball he hit over the pavilion. I've never seen a lefty do that at Dodger Stadium. It's amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

It's probably the best game ever played, maybe in any sport.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I mean, especially when you consider the nlcs, you know, it's like, it's, it's in the playoffs, you know, so. Yeah, I think, I think he might be right.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it's also just, he has reached that territory of like we are watching something we may never see again.

[Clayton Kershaw]

And yeah, that's, yeah, absolutely. Have to enjoy it. It's so cool.

[Jokim Noah]

So cool.

[Big Cat]

I want to take you back to 2013 when you won the Cy Young. And I, I, because I, I, I pulled up some of my old tweets. You accepted the award. I think it was on ESPN or maybe it was MLB Network.

[Clayton Kershaw]

And I know where you're going.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The whitest crew of all time with you.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

Talk to me. It's not only. It's, it's four, I count five button down shirts, two Q zips. The guys are like arms on each other. What.

[PFT Commenter]

What.

[Big Cat]

What happened with that?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Where you.

[Big Cat]

You just had your boys like, hey, everyone get in here. Let's do a Greenwich Street Posse look here.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I think that. What they call them, The Mean Street Posse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Mean Street Posse. Yeah.

[Clayton Kershaw]

So I won in 2011, and those guys started getting some, like, you know, wow, this is the widest crew I've ever seen. Are you all CPAs? You know, this is. And so they. They just started leaning into it, and they're like, all right, for 2013, we gotta go big. So they just found the, you know, just found the widest clothes they could find, the sweater vest and the. The CPA look, and they leaned into it, man. But.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so it's intentional. That's even funnier.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Clayton Kershaw]

They wanted to. They wanted to lean into it, and so those guys are all. They were my high school guys, some of them. I've been known them since their third grade, and. And they came out to all the games all the time, so they're the best. But they loved it too. It was fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's basically if a picture could say, my dad is a lawyer, and I'll sue you. That's this picture.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. And they know it. And they know it, and that's what makes it great.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's great. I got another question about tweets. We're big fans of Magic Johnson, who's partial owner of the Dodgers. Did you ever find out news about yourself, like, two days after a game when he does his, hey, the Dodgers have a must win tonight, it's game seven type of tweet?

[Clayton Kershaw]

No. What? Tell me. I don't know the backstory of this. What's going on here?

[Big Cat]

He tweets. His tweets are very matter of fact. Like, I have one from 2014. It just says, when Ramirez, Gonzalez, and Kemp hit well, and Kershaw is pitching like he did tonight. We can beat any team in baseball. I assume you just pitch great and everyone got home runs, so. Yeah. You usually win those type of games.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I see, I see.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What is he like? Is that you? I'm sure you. You've met him and been around him a little bit.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, no, he's awesome. He's great. He comes around definitely, to all the, you know, the playoff games, and it's just such a huge presence, you know, like, he's basically the one of the big faces in la, and to have him as an owner is really fun. He. He's. He's. He's fun to talk to, and I Think he's getting into baseball, too, which is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Here's. I'll pull you up one. That better explains it. Okay, let me see what was. Oh, yeah. With the series being 2 2, game 5 is very important. Whichever team wins takes control of the series. Actually, that one was wrong.

[Clayton Kershaw]

That was wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was wrong, but.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Okay, I get what you're saying. No, I haven't had any of those moments with him, but I get what you're saying.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you ever. Do you ever get distracted with the celebrities at the Dodgers games? Like, I know Jerry OConnell was on the big screen a bunch this postseason. I think a lot of people at home were like, enough. Jerry o'? Connell?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I mean, I. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I like looking around. I mean, I think we had Justin Bieber there. I'm a big Bieber guy, but he was a Blue Jays. He was wearing a Blue Jays jersey, so that hurt a little bit, but. And then Jason Bateman's one of my favorites. He's always. He's always there. He's a big Dodger guy. And I've got a good Jason Bateman story if you want to hear it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would love it.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. So he came in the clubhouse after one game, and he was going around meeting everybody and talking, and just. He's. He's the best. Such a good dude. And, you know, I. I don't know if you've noticed, but I usually have my shirt off a lot, and sometimes in the clubhouse, I might not have much clothing on at all. And I was naked this time, and I got to introduce myself to Jason, and he took it like a champ. I gave him a bro hug and said, what's up? And he just took it all in stride. So that was. That was cool. Pretty fun. It was my good way to meet Jason. That was great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's in your. I mean, he's in your domain, so.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I know the clubhouse. I. I have no shame in the clubhouse. Really. Anywhere, but definitely in the clubhouse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I got another dumb question for you, and this is really, really dumb, because you. Your life is baseball. You pitched so long in the. In the pros. But when you got the rubber from your last start in regular season, did you know the rubber was that big?

[Clayton Kershaw]

No idea. No, I didn't know.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy. Like, it was so fucking big.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It's so heavy, dude. So heavy. It was like. I mean, I was tired, but it felt like it was £100. It's probably, like £30, but, yeah. They're like, what do you want to do with this? And I was like, I think it's awesome, but I have no idea what I want to do with this. You know, I don't, I don't know what you do with that, but yeah, I had no idea. It is down in there deep.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That makes me feel better because when I saw it, I was like, you know, I didn't really want to say anything because I want to be like, oh, you're not a ball knower. But I was like, I don't think people understand how big this thing is. It's like an ice.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Replacing that thing's not easy. Easy. Our ground screws the best, but they say they replace it like two or three times a year and they had to do it like twice in a month span right there.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, it goes. It's like a foot deep.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, it's heavy, man. Heavy.

[Big Cat]

These are the hard hitting questions we usually get.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I love these. These are, These are great. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there a pitch that you ever were thinking about throwing that you were working on that you never quite had the confidence to put into the rotation?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I mean, I. I tried to throw a change up first for 18 years and could never do it, you know, So I mean, I, you know, my arm goes this way and it can't go this way. So that's how I. I don't know why, but I could never figure it out. And people tried to teach me and I never did it. Never to this day, if my, if my son ever asked me how to throw a change up, I'm gonna. I'd be like, I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Somebody else.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's Uncle Show.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We were talking to Paul Skeens when he was on the show, and he said that he. He carries around a baseball. Baseball with him and just like works on grips. Absent mindedly. Do you do that too?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I had one in my car. Always. I always had one in my car. Yeah. Just sometimes I put it in my back because my back hurts. But most of the time I'm just like gripping the ball and. Yeah. I mean, you can only throw so many bullets, you know, so to be able to work on stuff just with grips and in your hand, I think it matters. I think it matters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Speaking of your back, how are you feeling? I remember you had an epidural back in like 2018. Right, right.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I've had a handful of those. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think overall I'm Okay. I think my biggest complaint is my toe. My toe hurts, but I'm hoping when I, you know, since I've stopped pitching, it'll start feeling better soon.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait. What's up with your toe? You got turf?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I had surgery.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I had gnarly surgery last off season on my toe. I wish I could show you these pictures. They're gross. It looks like Frankenstein, but able to come back from that. But it's just never really quite been the same. And, you know, I don't think pitching is very good for it, so hopefully it feels better. You don't realize how much you need your toe, so it's kind of like. It's kind of same thing as, like, what Brock Purdy's going through or Joe Burrow. And then Mahomes had the surgery for it after one Super Bowl. So I guess it's not completely uncommon, but for pitchers, it is.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just a soft name for it. When they call it turf toe, everybody's like, oh, just. Yeah, just walk it off.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, just rub some dirt in it.

[Big Cat]

Exactly.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It's. I thought so, too, until. Well, until I have it. It hurts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now that you're retired, can you. Can you say that like someone pimping a home run on you really pissed you off?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I don't mind the pimping of a homer. I just. I don't. I think if it's, like, directed at you. You know what I mean? Like, if you want to fire up your dugout and if you want to, like, you know, stare at the ball a little bit. I got. I get it. Like, you hit a good one. Congrats. But, like. Like, if you're looking at me while you do it, that. That's when I kind of get. Or look in our dugout or do stuff. Like, I don't. I don't like all that. No, I. I mean, I had. I think. I think Trent Grisham probably pimped one the most off me in San Diego. And I honestly, I didn't. I didn't take too much offense to it, but our dugout really got pissed.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so they got mad for you. So you got back and you were like, oh, I do have to do something.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Well, honestly, I was watching the ball. I was like, God, you hit that far? And. And I didn't even see what he did, but I saw, like, I saw Doc even in our dugout, getting pissed at him. So I went look back, and it was. It was a little excessive. But overall, I don't remember too many that were too bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, I hate to reduce your career to one pitch, but I'm going to reduce your career to one pitch. Do you have one moment, like one. One strikeout that you had or one pitch that you threw where you're like, that was insane pain.

[Big Cat]

Man.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Let me think. I think more of the moment, you know, Like, I think it's more of the moment than the pitch, but, you know, I think getting the last out of the no hitter, throwing the slider there, that was cool. And then honestly, the last pitch I ever threw was another slider and like that. That actually was a good one. And I actually. That threw it one of my harder sliders of my career right there. So I think I'll always have that with me. Like, that was. That was pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Would people avoid you during a no hitter? Would they just stay away?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. That's like. There's so many superstitions in baseball, you know, and I. I don't really get that one. But to be fair, I'm not the most friendly guy on start day either. So not too many guys come up and like, have a chat, you know. So I don't think it was anything out of the ordinary, honestly.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like that could make some guys more nervous. It's just like staying away from and not talking about it, right?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, you start feeling it. Some guys like to talk. You know, everybody deals with anxiety and stress differently. Some people like, can't stop talking, can't shut up. And then other are quiet and kind of focused and I'm kind of. I kind of lean towards the other way, more focused.

[PFT Commenter]

So you mentioned on start day you're a different guy. What. What's that guy like?

[Clayton Kershaw]

I just am not like, I, I don't do like the small talk very well on start day. Like, I just don't. Like, if you have something to say, like, that's great, I'll say, hey, I'll say, what's up? But like, I don't want to talk about, you know, I don't want to talk about much of anything other than like the game. And I think that's just like in the back of my head, I know that, you know, I have a job to do tonight and, and I don't really want to take any focus off of that. And I want to talk about, you know, how many, how many kills you got in Call of Duty last night? You know, I just, I don't want to do that right now.

[Big Cat]

You know, who, who was the craziest that you played With. On start day. And. And why was it Max Scherzer.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Schurz had a rule. Like, Schurz was the same guy. Like, same guy as ever. And then an hour and a half. I think it was an hour and a half. He would. He would go Scherz mode and put his headphones in and, like, kind of lock in. So I respect that. Like, he was the same guy. And then he literally just, like, flipped a switch. It was like an hour and a half or two hours before the game, and that's when you knew not to mess with him. So I think everybody to some extent, kind of has that, but Schurz was like, here's the time. And. And then after that, you don't talk to him until after the game. Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you don't talk to him. If you try to take him out of the game, he'll be like, get the. Off my mound.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to come out.

[Clayton Kershaw]

And then you don't touch him. Like, Doc. Doc was saying, like, you can't give him a fist bump or, like, a butt slap or anything until, like, after. After his job's done. Done. Like, don't give him a. Don't tell him, good job. The game's done.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like a dog that you can't pet. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If I was Dave Roberts, I would plan that into my. To my managerial strategy and do, like, a fake pull from the game where I go out to the mound before he needs to come out, let him yell at him and be like, okay, all right. Yeah, you're right. You're gonna stay in and then take him out an inning later. Like, you gotta. You gotta plan that ahead of time.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. I'll mention that to Schurz's next manager. It's a good idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Did you. Did you ever successfully lobby a manager? Like, hey, no, you're not taking me out of this game.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, but I think it was always like, you know how the. The managers sometimes come out and, like, it's almost like a check your pulse situation. Like, if they're like, if you can. If you're, like, handing the ball to them, like, you expect to come out. That's when they take you out. But, like, there's a lot of times when Doc was just like, are you good? And I'm like, yeah, I'm good. You know, it wasn't. It wasn't like, don't take me out. It was just like a check your pulse situation. There's, like, one video of me, like, waving somebody off, and I. It was Just. I was talking to our pitching coach, like, hey, I need. This is a new hitter. I need, like, a scouting report. Come and come out and tell me, you know, and I think it got blown up. Like, I was waving Doc off, which wasn't true. I just was, but it got blown up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it could have been anyone. You could have been like, hey, Jason Bateman, meet me in the locker room after the game. I'll see you there.

[Clayton Kershaw]

That sounds weird, but yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. I want to go back. This has been awesome. I got a couple last questions. We really appreciate you coming on 2013. Back to your. Back to that season. You had a home run, your only home run in your career. In the first game, did you think in the back of your head, you're like, what. What if I just hit, like, 30 home runs this year?

[Clayton Kershaw]

That was my only homer. That was it.

[Big Cat]

But on opening day, you're like. You got it in your head. Be like, maybe this is my season. Maybe I just. Maybe I figured something out.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, I think I did. I think that's what I thought. I was like, oh, man, they're gonna hit me like five hole. You know, I'm gonna play right field next game or first base, and. And then, sure enough, I didn't get another home for the rest of my career. So I think I. I got humbled pretty quick.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, you got my one.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I got my one. It was a fun game.

[PFT Commenter]

Friend of ours, Tommy Lasorda, RIP The Legend, you worked closely with him over the years. Did he. Did he ever threaten to fight you?

[Clayton Kershaw]

He did that a lot. He did that a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

He was the man.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Tommy. Yeah, Tommy. He always asked me about my mom. He loved. He loved my mom. When I got drafted, he. He came out and he got to meet my mom when we signed out there, and I'll always remember that about Tommy. He would always ask me how my mom's doing and say hi to her, so he never tried to fight me, though, I don't think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's how he loves you, is. He's just like, I'll slap you. You.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true.

[Big Cat]

We. We got to interview him. It was maybe like eight years ago. It was. It was awesome.

[Clayton Kershaw]

He's got some great stories, man. He could sit there for hours and tell stories.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it's great. All right, I. I got one last question. This has been awesome. We really appreciate it, Clayton. And anytime you want to come back on Talk Ball, we'd love to have you. It's the robot question. R H O-B A C K.com promo code. Take 20 off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. How good are you at ping pong?

[Clayton Kershaw]

At one point in my life, I was. I was pretty solid. We played a lot in high school. It was like we weren't. Like, we weren't the cool kids. You know, we were going to play ping pong on Friday nights and, like Smash Brothers. But we played a ton of ping pong in high school, and so that carried over for a while. But I'm a little out of practice, I'm not gonna lie.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Because I was going to say it would be awesome if you went, like.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Ping pong for a while.

[Big Cat]

It'd be awesome if you tried to go pro and ping pong, you're like the Deion Sanders of ping pong in baseball.

[Clayton Kershaw]

That's a different level, though, man. Those Olympic guys, I mean, that's. I can't. If you don't. Yeah. I can't do. I can't do all that. But just like a normal, like, recreational sport, I can hold my own.

[Big Cat]

Was. Was there a ping pong table in the. In the clubhouse?

[Clayton Kershaw]

We don't. And then spring training, we had one. Dodger Stadium. No, I think it's.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you.

[Clayton Kershaw]

You take a few hacks at that ping pong ball as a pitcher, like, you're not going to feel, like, awesome if you're on there for hours. So it's probably. Probably a little bit of a job hazard to have around all the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was there a guy on the team that. That gave you run for your money?

[Clayton Kershaw]

Mookie's good. Mookie and Freddie are both really good. Cody Bellinger was good. Those are, like, the first three that come to mind. Mookie, Freddy, and Bopper, those three were solid.

[PFT Commenter]

Mookie's good at everything. It's not fair.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah. Everything. It's. It's almost frustrating how good he is at everything. It's amazing. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, Clayton, congrats again, man. Hall of Fame career. We've. We. We've completed. Actually, we haven't completed the Highland Park. We need to get Jake Felt on. But this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it, and anytime you want to talk ball, we'd love to have you on.

[Clayton Kershaw]

All right. Appreciate it, guys. This is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks, dude.

[Big Cat]

Thanks so much, Clayton.

[PFT Commenter]

Have a good one.

[Clayton Kershaw]

All right. See you, man. See you guys.

[Big Cat]

All right, later.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. Recurring guest, good friend of the program.

[Jokim Noah]

That's right, it is.

[Big Cat]

The one and only Joe Kim Noah in studio. Joe, great to see you.

[Jokim Noah]

Thanks for having me.

[Big Cat]

Congratulations on the new show. It's out now, the first episode called Nomad. So tell me, what made you decide to do this show? The first episode is you and D. Rose reuniting, going through Chicago. I can't wait to watch it. So what was the. What was the idea like? Hey, I want to do this show. Travel show.

[Jokim Noah]

Travel show. I'm fucking crunk, I'm not gonna lie. Nomad, go check it out. You know, I finally got something. Every time I come up here, you're like, you guys, come on. What can we. What can we. Can we support you with anything? It's here.

[Big Cat]

Here it is.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Here.

[Big Cat]

Watch it. Go watch it.

[Memes]

Finally.

[Jokim Noah]

Go fucking watch Nomad. We're not playing around. We're traveling the world, starting with basketball is the root. And then we're exploring culture. We're not fucking around. Please go check out the show.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

So where are we going? You mentioned Morocco, Serbia.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. So we start here in Chicago, then we went to Morocco, will be the next episode. We'll go to Casablanca. We were interviewing this. This dope local rapper over there, El Grande Toto. So we went to his hood. It was awesome. We had a few great nights out there.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Jokim Noah]

And. And the third one is in Jamaica. And I went with a dear friend of mine, Rohan Marley, and, you know, just got to do Got to hang out over there with the Marleys. It was, it was so dope.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I also like how you did a travel show and you started in Chicago. Yeah, yeah. That's a great way to get it, get it off the ground. Yeah. So what are you, Are you watching other travel shows? Like, are you a fan of any, Anybody else that's out there doing it?

[Jokim Noah]

So I, I wasn't, I didn't watch too many travel shows before, and I started watching it, and then my shaman hit me up and he's like, yo, you know, I used to.

[Big Cat]

Well, you have a shaman?

[Jokim Noah]

I have a shaman.

[Big Cat]

Well, how did you get a shaman? I mean, you, that's not, I, I'm sorry to interrupt, but you can't just say, I had my shaman. Like, that's not something everyone has. Can I get a shaman?

[Jokim Noah]

You can get a shaman.

[Big Cat]

How did you get a shaman?

[Jokim Noah]

I'll hook you up, okay? I'll hook you up.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to steal your shaman.

[Jokim Noah]

No, you can have my shaman.

[Big Cat]

What if he gives me some advice and gives you the same advice and then we're just, just. I think there was a episode by that. It's okay.

[Clayton Kershaw]

It's okay.

[Jokim Noah]

Are you ready? Are you ready to, you know, get down and dirty?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What? What?

[Clayton Kershaw]

How.

[Jokim Noah]

You ready for some ayahuasca?

[Big Cat]

I, I, I've been thinking about it.

[Jokim Noah]

I've been thinking, does it make you nervous?

[Big Cat]

A little bit.

[Jokim Noah]

Are you nervous to, you know, lose controls? Are you a control guy?

[Big Cat]

Not a control guy? It's more like, what if I come back and I'm just totally different?

[Jokim Noah]

It's a good thing.

[PFT Commenter]

It could be a good thing, could.

[Big Cat]

Be a bad thing.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm curious. I, I'm ayahuasca curious. But it's, it's got the DMT in it, right? Yeah, that's what, that's what makes me a little bit nervous is that, like, your body releases DMT when you pass away. Right. I feel like it's important for my brain to still have that dmt.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

This is. Maybe I'm just.

[Big Cat]

How many times have you done it?

[Jokim Noah]

I've done, like, four times, and every.

[Big Cat]

Time is like, what, Tell me, tell me everything ancestral. Okay?

[Jokim Noah]

You go back, you go back and you have real conversations with your people. You know, you go to another realm. It's, it's, it's hard to put into words, but for me, personally, I was, I did it when, when the basketball thing wasn't working out anymore. I was depressed. I was going through a lot of shit, and I would do anything to try to get back. Right. And, you know, the medicine brought me places that definitely put me at peace with things that were. I had turmoil in my system.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, trauma, and, you know, I was able to have deep conversations with myself. That's the medicine.

[Big Cat]

That's incredible.

[Jokim Noah]

But the thing is, you. You can't be scared.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Jokim Noah]

And you can't be a control freak.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Jokim Noah]

You gotta. You gotta surrender. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to be the guy in the. In the tent who's like, I think I'm having a heart attack. Call the cops.

[Jokim Noah]

You'll be all right.

[Big Cat]

You'll be all right.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I have another ayahuasca question because I am curious about it. But, like, right after you. You take the tea and, you know, you go through the experience, the next morning, do you. Do you wake up feeling better? Or is it something that gradually, as you get removed from the ayahuasca experience, it just kind of keeps developing, the inner peace keeps getting calmer and calmer.

[Jokim Noah]

Palmer. I think there's a. There's a few days of processing what you just went through, because you are in another realm when you take it. And it's tough. It's. You know, it's not. It's not like a feel good.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Jokim Noah]

It's not a feel good. Like, it's not ecstasy.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Jokim Noah]

You know?

[Big Cat]

Right. It's not a party drug.

[Jokim Noah]

It's not a party drug.

[Big Cat]

Right. So the shaman. When did you get hooked up with the shaman?

[Jokim Noah]

Family friend.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

Family friend. And she was hooking up with Bourdain.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[Jokim Noah]

So I would hear a lot of Bourdain stories from the shaman. And. And that's how I got put onto Bourdain. And then I had an unbelievable opportunity. My boy Zach from NBA Take 2 asked me if I wanted to do a travel show. And I'd been thinking about it for a little while. I travel a lot, and, you know, I'm very comfortable in. In all different places of the world, so it's just nice to be the one asking the questions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know? Yeah. I bet you that's a good feeling of, you know, an entire career where you got a microphone in your face.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How'd the game go? What do you guys gotta do? Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. Why were your rebound solo? Just the worst question.

[Big Cat]

What's the worst question? That. What's the question that you would get after a game that would drive you nuts?

[Jokim Noah]

Like, I mean, losing a game and, like, so what happened? You suck my dick.

[Big Cat]

What went wrong? We didn't score.

[PFT Commenter]

Now we're about to talk about, like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Talk about what happened on defense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They can't even ask a question. I want you to talk now. Please talk for me. Yeah. What's that? Like, if. If you're the one asking questions now, do you, like, find yourself prepping? Are you making lists or doing research?

[Hank]

Search.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you just going there and just kind of interacting with the person as it comes naturally?

[Jokim Noah]

So at first I was. It's funny. So my first interview is with Derek, and Derek was always, like, joking. Your is. It's. It's interesting. You need to have cameras. And I was. I was always, like, nervous about having cameras. I was like, you know, this isn't gonna be as authentic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It changes how people.

[Jokim Noah]

Changes how people act when the cameras are on. But what I'm surprised by is how much which people actually want to share.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, and, you know, especially, like, when you're traveling, everybody just wants to be heard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

So being able to put them in a. In a positive light where they can share their stuff, I think it's. It's. It's something that I always wanted to do, and I. I feel like I'm getting better at it.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome. So, yeah, go to the YouTube channel's NBAT2. We'll put it in the episode description. Everyone go watch it. Very excited. You know, though, I got. You got. You know where you got to go?

[Jokim Noah]

Well, we definitely got to do an episode and do some ayahuasca.

[Big Cat]

But you know where you got to go for this thing to pop off?

[Jokim Noah]

Cleveland.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Ah, I knew it. Go to Cleveland.

[Jokim Noah]

We gotta go.

[Big Cat]

Joking Noah, doing a travel show in Cleveland, like, that is.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta find the.

[Big Cat]

That is every most amount of views.

[Jokim Noah]

We heard it. We heard it here first.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you have to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it. Guy like Bourdain, he would find beauty everywhere he went. Yeah, you can find beauty in Cleveland.

[Jokim Noah]

You have to find it.

[Big Cat]

It used to be, like, overcast, like a January day. It's got to be gross. And you got to do Cleveland.

[Jokim Noah]

We have to.

[Hank]

It's a must.

[Clayton Kershaw]

I'm.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm excited. If you guys can help me out with that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'll come.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Just.

[Jokim Noah]

I think last time we were talking a little bit about Cleveland, and a lot of, like, the tourism boards and stuff started hitting me up on my.

[Big Cat]

D. There we go.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. It's time.

[Big Cat]

Joke.

[PFT Commenter]

If no one does Cleveland, I. I Would watch that.

[Jokim Noah]

It's time. It's time.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe go with Bone Thugs. They'll show you around.

[Jokim Noah]

Cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll make a call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's your people.

[PFT Commenter]

It's my people. Perfect in theory. Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Do you think that they would be okay with taking me around Cleveland? Because a lot of the Cleveland guys, they. They really don't with me.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's part of the. The, like, making peace with the remarks that you've made about Cleveland.

[Jokim Noah]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Cleveland accepting you, showing you they're a warm city. I think. I think we could change a lot of minds.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I think it's a good idea. I think that's a great idea. Idea.

[Big Cat]

I also think you. I don't know if you give yourself enough credit. Like, you are the type of person, when you walk in a room, like, everyone wants. Gravitates towards you, and you are the type of, like, soul. Not to get too deep, but a soul that's, like, very welcoming to people. So I think you go anywhere and people will just want to share with you.

[Jokim Noah]

Appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

And I. I feel like Cleveland fans will. Will. Like, they don't. They're not going to hold a grudge. They want a championship.

[Jokim Noah]

They did good a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And they beat us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right.

[Jokim Noah]

So let it go.

[Big Cat]

Not in game ones.

[Jokim Noah]

Nine games.

[Big Cat]

Always the game ones. I was like, this is it. This is it.

[Jokim Noah]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

This is it.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw an NBA travel show the other night. It was Giannis trying to establish a pivot foot. Did you watch that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You should just be like. And it should just be highlights of him traveling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but it's my travel show.

[Jokim Noah]

He doesn't. They don't call travels on him.

[PFT Commenter]

That was insane. He took six steps, and then I saw people online that were arguing, saying, like, explaining how it was actually. Actually not a travel. Yeah, because you get the gather step, which was actually like three steps, Then you do the jump stop. Then you got two pivot foots, and you establish the pivot foot. It is it. It does make me mad as I. I find myself, like, turning into my dad watching NBA, being like, that's a walk. They don't go walk anymore.

[Jokim Noah]

So you're pissed about it.

[Big Cat]

I was.

[Jokim Noah]

Your travel. That doesn't get called. It drives you nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

I mostly got mad at the people that were trying to explain to me why it was not a travel. Travel. That's what made me mad. But, hey, listen, if they don't call it, then by all means, more power to you.

[Jokim Noah]

Just let it go, man. It's not. It's not that bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I probably should let it go. I probably should. Like, it's not healthy to be mad watching a referee miss a travel call. I can work on that.

[Big Cat]

We also. I don't. When was the last time you were here? Was it after Florida one? Either way.

[Jokim Noah]

It was during that time.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Either way. Congratulations. Florida's all the way back.

[Jokim Noah]

Big, though.

[Big Cat]

That was awesome. Were you at the game?

[Jokim Noah]

I wasn't. I was in Morocco filming Nomad.

[Big Cat]

Did you watch the game?

[Jokim Noah]

I did. We were in a janky bar, like, three o' clock in the morning. This guy Toto was showing us around. He was like, yo, we gotta find. We gotta find a place to watch the game. So we're in with Casablanca, three o' clock in the morning at a bar. And there's a huge mural in the. In the. I don't want to give too much of the show, but that's all right. There's a huge mural in the back of the bar. Derrick Rose in Casablanca.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm like, holy. And then we figure it out. We get to watch the game. Gators win. It's just.

[Big Cat]

It was. It was a tense game.

[Jokim Noah]

Hell of a game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Jokim Noah]

Gator boy is man still hot, man. It's beautiful to watch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They're back up. So you went to the Bulls game last night? We were talking about it for a second. Just explain to us, as someone who played so long in the NBA, Wemby, that how do you. I guess that's my question. How do you.

[Jokim Noah]

How.

[Big Cat]

How do you. How do you stop?

[Jokim Noah]

Well, we're seeing something that we've never seen before.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And we. We better appreciate what this is. You know, usually 7 foot 5. You think of big Doofy, Clanky, guys who can barely tie their shoes. This guy's in and out, crossover. Step back, hitting threes to win the game.

[Big Cat]

He had two threes in the last minute to win the game.

[Jokim Noah]

Look for a guy to. Right after season.

[Big Cat]

What were you.

[Jokim Noah]

If you were an NBA player, what would you be doing right after season?

[PFT Commenter]

I'd probably go to Tibet and, like, live in a monastery for a while.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm kind of weird like that.

[Big Cat]

I would fuck around hard.

[PFT Commenter]

What he did hard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, hard.

[Jokim Noah]

Drinking brewskis, beer pong. The whole thing. No, this guy's hanging out with the monks. Look, I don't know what happened over there, but he looks real comfortable with the ball in his hands right now. Like, okay, he hits the two, threes But I think that the mindset changed. He's also. He's dunking on. Like, he's not easy. Like, when I first met him, he used to dunk it, like, so light. Like, it was like he was almost like embarrassed to be 7 foot 5. Now it's like, yo, he's monkey dunking on everybody. He's like, yo. I mean, thank God it's over because I wouldn't want to guard a guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So how do you. But like, how do you. You guard a guy like that? And also, I have a very bad take. I'll just say it out loud because you can laugh at me. I think I could probably give him a problem just like bodying him a little bit.

[Jokim Noah]

Like, how.

[Big Cat]

Just a little bit more weight than him.

[PFT Commenter]

Back him down. Get it.

[Big Cat]

Get inside.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I like it.

[Big Cat]

Really get up on him.

[Jokim Noah]

I like it when you. I like it when you talk that like that. I like it when you talk like that.

[Big Cat]

Any guy who's skinnier than me, it doesn't matter if they're a foot taller than me. I'm like, like, actually, he's a foot and a half taller than me. Like, yeah, dude, if he, If I just threw a couple bows on him, he probably wouldn't. He wouldn't want to come in the painting.

[PFT Commenter]

He might outweigh you.

[Big Cat]

But how much does he weigh?

[Jokim Noah]

He probably, what, 230, 240.

[Big Cat]

All right. No, he doesn't.

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, that's. I don't know, man. The. The way this. Every game I'm seeing, like, I've never seen that before.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, like, is there a weak. Like, I don't, I don't really understand because, like, V obviously was doing his best or trying his hardest, but it's. It's just. I don't know how you. A guy who has that type of range and then he'll take one dribble and from the three point line, he'll be at the hoop.

[Jokim Noah]

At the hoop, elbow in the rim.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

236 is what he weighs.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So I do.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What about on the defensive side with him? Like, obviously, he's one of the best shot blockers in the league already, but the shots that he alters, other shots that don't get taken.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's that got to be like, on offense, going up against a guy that's just. He's able to swat everything. Like, how. How do you attack? How do you even think about attacking? The key.

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, it's hard. It's easier to talk about it now that I'm not playing, but it looks like every time somebody throws, like, a little floater or anything soft around the rim, he's going to get that. So, I mean, I think you really gotta go at his chest, you know?

[Big Cat]

That's right.

[Jokim Noah]

You really got. I didn't know you were a Hooper like that.

[Big Cat]

I made 13 in front of you. Oh, I am. We talked about it before. I was teammates with Matt Walsh and Donnie on the TBT team.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, that was a hell of a time.

[Big Cat]

That was a hell of a time.

[Jokim Noah]

You want to talk about it?

[Big Cat]

We. I did have. We. I can't remember if we talked about it and then cut it or. I don't remember.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. We definitely talked about it.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if we cut it or not.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I think we did all right. Yeah. You. Let's say Joe Keem is. Is the best. If Jokim tells you not to leave his apartment, you don't leave his apartment.

[Jokim Noah]

Great host.

[Big Cat]

12 hot chicks.

[Jokim Noah]

Great host. Great host. I wasn't even there.

[Big Cat]

He wasn't even there. He wasn't even in the city. He said, Give me 20 minutes. Boom. Bunch of chicks just showed up. Like, Joe Keem told us, come over. Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

Donnie was like, yo, it's. It's Guy Heavy over here. Help us out. And I'm, like, looking at all my Chicago numbers, and I'm looking at my eyes like, three girls gone wild, Chicago. I'm like, perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the ratio is off. Call. Yeah, no, he'll get.

[Big Cat]

That's a ratio fixer. That's a fact.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm happy I could help. Yeah, I'm very proud of that.

[Big Cat]

And it was your opponent apartment, too. That was the funniest part. You're just like, yeah, you guys can just party at my apartment. So you. You're. You're now doing stuff with the Bulls. How many. How many times you be back this year?

[Jokim Noah]

Five times.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

Five games.

[Big Cat]

All the Derrick Rose nights. A lot of bobblehead nights.

[Jokim Noah]

That's a big, big night.

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Jokim Noah]

Come on.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Jokim Noah]

That's our championship.

[Big Cat]

That's gonna be a big, big night.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, like, right next to mj. It's like going up, up there. It's.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Jokim Noah]

It hits a little different.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, when you. When your name is next to mj, big shout out to. To Pooh man. Like, we're. We're all gonna be there supporting him always. He's the best.

[Big Cat]

How good is he getting at chess.

[Jokim Noah]

He plays a lot.

[Big Cat]

I feel like I see every video. He's playing chess.

[Jokim Noah]

He loves chess, man. He's, he'll play chess all day. I'm more of a backgammon guy, to be honest.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

But you know, just proud of him, man. It's like you retire, you trying to invite, you know, invest in, invest your time in that you love, you know, and that's, that's what he loves. He's a big chess guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very cool. Do you, do you keep in touch with a lot of former teammates? I could see you being like a friend, like off. If I, if I spent years playing with you, I could see you being an easy guy to like maintain that, that long relationship with.

[Jokim Noah]

I think it's important, you know, when you, when you retire, like all you have are your memories and, and your friendships. So I don't take that for granted. Just being able to be there for the guys, like talk about the good old days. I think, you know, I think that's important. So I always make sure that I keep my relationships close.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you reach out to any of the young players?

[Jokim Noah]

Noah Senge, you know, he's from, from Cameroon. Young, young guy. Got to spend a little time with him.

[Big Cat]

Can you talk to Billy and be like, hey, just play him. Billy's not going to play rookies.

[Jokim Noah]

He, he, he doesn't, he wouldn't, he.

[Big Cat]

Wouldn'T listen to me, you know, he.

[Jokim Noah]

Wouldn'T listen to me, listen to me. Especially now he's in the hall of Fame and stuff. You can't tell him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's got it all.

[PFT Commenter]

What's going on in France? Because I feel like there have been a lot of really great basketball players, young basketball like Alexander Saar, obviously Wimby, like a lot of great players coming out of France recently. What's, what's changed over there?

[Jokim Noah]

I think it started with Tony. You know, Tony's run definitely inspired a whole generation out there and you know, this is the next generation and they believe that they can win. They won a Euro championship and he won a lot of NBA championships. And you know, the games are at 3:00 in the morning. But you know, basketball's part of the culture now and the system is different. You know, pro teams have teams that, for 8 year old teams and 10 year old teams. So, so you get to see you go to the pro games for free. But it's, you know, you can be proud. You wearing the same jersey.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

With the pro team.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is crazy. It feels like. It feels like we're getting very close to France beating the US and some of these Olympics coming up.

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, Wemby, you got to stop that guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They might have to put me on the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Get physical.

[Big Cat]

Get real physical.

[PFT Commenter]

You just need to have all the outside shooters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just, like, make. Make some curry clones. It's just.

[Jokim Noah]

What. Can we talk about what Curry did, though? That. That was nuts in the Olympics. What?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, he's just. He's just insane. Like, a guard his side size shouldn't still be doing what he's doing. They don't last that long like guards his size. And he's just. It's. It's crazy that he's this old and he's doing it.

[Jokim Noah]

It's unreal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

He's. And he's such a joy to watch. Like, it's just. Just he. Do you think. Do you. Do you. The take out there that, like, he ruined basketball because all the AAU kids are now just chucking up threes?

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, there's only one step.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, there's only one step. He. And he did. Yeah, to some extent. You know, it's like, you get a steal, like, go get a layup. I know I'm shooting a three, you know, but it's. The name of three is worth more than two.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It was great being able to root for him in the Olympics. Too. True. Like, is that all these fans out there, they hate Steph Curry because he's. He's taken away joy from them. He's won championships. It's like, this guy. But then now you get to actually root for the guy in the Olympics and watch him go out there and just three everybody to death. It was awesome. It was great. It was such a joyful experience seeing Steph Curry wearing, like, the, The USA jersey be like, that's my guy for once.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I, I. I still cried because I was for France, so.

[Big Cat]

Oh, were you one?

[PFT Commenter]

Huh? Were you really?

[Big Cat]

I'm French.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, you know, no love for the U. S. Olympic team? No, I kind of respect that. I respect that. I think a lot of guys would be like, you know, I, I root for. You know, I root for the USA in the Olympics, too. Yeah, I respect, Like, I'm.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm more of a underdog guy. That's. I'm rooting for, you know, if. If Haiti played usa, I'm for Haiti, and I'm not Haitian. Yeah, you Know, because I just know what it would do for the people, you know, I went to. For the. For the World Cup. Last World Cup, Cameroon played Brazil. And my wife is from. From Brazil, and I'm from Cameroon. She's talking shit the whole time. No African team will ever beat Brazil. 90th minute, Abubakar scores the fucking goal. We didn't qualify to get to the next round. It was. It was a nothing game for Brazil. But what it meant for the people in Cameroon to beat Brazil.

[Big Cat]

You're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's the shit.

[PFT Commenter]

So if you like underdogs, what about this next World Cup? If USA Plays against France, you're gonna be rooting for Team USA Right?

[Jokim Noah]

I don't think USA could ever be.

[PFT Commenter]

Underdog in any sport. Look, look, soccer.

[Jokim Noah]

Soccer, for sure. I just feel like the soccer fans, the U. S. Soccer fans, like, it's like, the way they cheers, like, it's so cool. It's like, I believe that we will run. I'm hearing, like, a whole crowd that we will win.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, what the.

[Hank]

Is that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, I agree.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When you say like, that, it doesn't sound so cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they've got their scarves, but their scarves are. They're not, like, cool scarves that mean anything.

[Big Cat]

We're bad at Chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

I don't want to sound like, like, unpatriotic or anything, but.

[Big Cat]

No, this happened with the Ryder Cup. Like, you just see, there's. There's, you know, a few hundred European fans, and they're just doing Chance. So much better than.

[Jokim Noah]

So much better.

[Big Cat]

Thousands of Americans. We got to get better.

[Jokim Noah]

We got to get better, Chance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're just bad at Chance. Have you talked to Tibs at all?

[Jokim Noah]

I talked recently.

[Big Cat]

How's he doing?

[Jokim Noah]

Tibs? You know, he says he's good. I think he misses the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, he's. That's his.

[Jokim Noah]

That's his life.

[Big Cat]

That's it.

[Jokim Noah]

That's his life. But, you know, people. You know, I think. I mean, he's all right. You know, I think he's. He doesn't have to worry about, you know, missing a meat. He's not gonna miss a meal or anything.

[PFT Commenter]

He's.

[Jokim Noah]

He's safe in that way. But, you know, I think he misses the game. He wants to be back in basketball because this is his life, man. But. But, you know, I think it's a tough, tough situation. Like, the Knicks were awesome last year, and. And. And you get fired. I think it's. I feel for him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

But. But I think he'll be back.

[Big Cat]

Can you give him a little tip for when he does come back? Because he will come back. He's a great coach. He should go to Turkey and get his hair redone.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Before he gets back then. He's just the new Tibs.

[Jokim Noah]

I'll go with him. Yeah, I'll go with him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do the travel show.

[Jokim Noah]

That'd be awesome.

[Big Cat]

Listen, we have. We have guys here who do the. They. They. They took a bunch of guys, bald guys, to Turkey for a trip to get it, so. And they made a whole travel show out of it. That's.

[Jokim Noah]

That's cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't even know he was going bald. Tibs.

[Big Cat]

He talked about the same guy. He does that joke every time, and it gets me. Every time. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good joke. It's a good.

[Big Cat]

Like, after. After a game, it's like, I. I feel like Tibs might be going bald.

[Jokim Noah]

There's a. There's a lot of.

[Memes]

We.

[Jokim Noah]

We're all part of that family. We need to get our hair. There's. There's a whole community of us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know.

[Big Cat]

You got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And did you go to Turkey?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, I went to. To Boston.

[Jokim Noah]

To Boston.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Same direction.

[Jokim Noah]

Same direction.

[PFT Commenter]

Just didn't go across the ocean. Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And. And did your forehead, like. Did you do the staples? Like, did you get the. The swelling on your forehead?

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy. No, the. The swelling wasn't too bad. I. I could even, like, wear a hat when I got out of there, so it was. It was pretty easy, actually. Yeah. But I have seen guys that have to, like, they. They got to go hat off. Just let it breathe for, like, what, three weeks? Yeah. And that with the scabs, that doesn't look so great. It's real if you do it that way. But, yeah, tips to Turkey would be. I would watch that.

[Jokim Noah]

You would watch that?

[Big Cat]

Oh, absolutely. That'd be incredible.

[Jokim Noah]

You guys are giving me great ideas. By the way, Cleveland tips the Turkey. Anything else?

[PFT Commenter]

Milwaukee for Giannis.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Yeah, just. Just a video of him traveling.

[Jokim Noah]

Traveling.

[PFT Commenter]

What about cold places? Do you fuck with the cold? Cold? Who do you with the cold? Just, like, cold weather.

[Jokim Noah]

Cold weather. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, would you go to Alaska? Would you go to. I would love to go to, like, the Arctic Circle.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. But the thing is, it has to have a basketball aspect to it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, so I don't know how much basketball they're playing in in Alaska, but maybe. Maybe there's a hoop we could trace in Langdon.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, those. Duke guy. I feel like Duke had a couple guys.

[Big Cat]

Was. No, Boozer wasn't. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. Yeah, Boozer was.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, that's right. Okay, so there's a. There's a hoop community out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

By the way, there was a moment last night, Monday Night Football, where a player almost. He like, cheered and he almost hit the ref. And I said right away, I was like, booze, I think.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Were you in.

[Big Cat]

I think you might have been injured during that. Were you there for that?

[Jokim Noah]

How do you remember that?

[Big Cat]

Because, well, I went and pulled it up and I obviously didn't see you on the court, but then I was like, yeah, I feel like, like Joe Keem was out for a little bit at the end of that year.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I was out.

[Big Cat]

But were you there? Were you traveling with the team?

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I think I was just. I was in the back.

[Big Cat]

What. What did everyone say after he punched the guy in the nuts after the game? We were like, holy, dude, you hit a ref in the nuts.

[Jokim Noah]

That was crazy.

[Big Cat]

You probably didn't think this question took it pretty well. Yeah, he did.

[Jokim Noah]

He took it pretty well. Like, if that was me, I would. It would have been. I would have been out for season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, also full circle boozer. All time hair guy. Yeah, all time with the best. When he had the. When he, when he did the real spray on, we. You guys, like, hey, we. We know.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. It was probably one of the funniest moments when he pulled up to practice with that. It was nuts. I was like, who let you leave the barber shop like that? You know? But look at the end of the day, that's my guy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And his sons. Are you watching them?

[Jokim Noah]

Holy shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Jokim Noah]

I saw him in the mall not long ago and he is a fucking tank. This guy's like this. Yeah, it.

[Big Cat]

That was like a big, I feel old moment when Carlos boozer sons are now in college and like dominating, getting buckets. I remember like watching when they were like little chubby kids, like playing AU on his Instagram, like right. Nine years ago.

[Jokim Noah]

That's. That's crazy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

I remember when he used to post to them playing basketball. Yeah, Booze. What a soldier. He's up in the morning with the aau like, okay, who's good? Dad?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Now it all makes sense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, now it all makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you, do you get to watch a lot of basketball like now in the NBA? It's November, it's early, but are you watching basketball like every night? Or you do you, like, focus on the. On the Bulls or what?

[Jokim Noah]

I'm watching. I'm watching basketball. It took me a while.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, you said that last time. You're on there. You didn't watch basketball for, like, a couple years.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I'm back. I'm back watching.

[Big Cat]

Who's your favorite. Who's your favorite guy right now to watch?

[Jokim Noah]

Wemby.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Memes]

I mean.

[Big Cat]

All right, take out Wemby. Take out Steph. Give us a name of someone that you're. Like, people aren't respecting his game enough.

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, I love Amon Thompson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Amen. Thompson's is a. You know, people say, oh, defense. There's no defense yet. Watch him play defense, if you like defense. And then, like, you can't deny, like, what Luca's doing right now. Yeah, I think that's a really interesting thing they got going on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're.

[Jokim Noah]

They're 8 and 3 bronze. Not in yet. Does Braun screw it up or make it better?

[PFT Commenter]

There's just one ball, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's only one.

[Jokim Noah]

There's only one ball.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Jokim Noah]

But it's. It's a different pressure now. Yeah, it's not. You're not the. You're not the number one option. Number two.

[Big Cat]

He's not. He might be three.

[Jokim Noah]

No, no, it's. Chill, chill, chill.

[Big Cat]

What about Austin Reeves? You got to get Austin reef shots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's good.

[Jokim Noah]

So game on the line.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

You give Austin Reeves.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Luca passes to Austin Reeves and then Ali.

[Jokim Noah]

There's a lot of great white hope going on over here. Well, the great white hopes.

[PFT Commenter]

I was. I was going to say Dalton connect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, yeah, everybody touches three, man weave.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We get Steve Blake back there. I feel like he's got some minutes left. Who else.

[Jokim Noah]

Who else are the Great white hopes?

[PFT Commenter]

Cooper. Flag.

[Big Cat]

Flag.

[Jokim Noah]

Big Koopa.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's. He's been awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

He's an American White.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

The great white hope has to be an American.

[Big Cat]

Well, that was. He was the first American to go. American white guy to go 11 since, like, the 70s. So he's it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Duncan Robinson still doing his thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Duncan Robinson on the. On the Pistons now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Filling it up.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think about the Rockets? The Rockets are still, like, a big question mark to me.

[Jokim Noah]

I really like the Rockets. I think that guy Shangoon is a motherfucker. He's a problem. Then you got a Thompson. The only. The problem is that their point guard getting hurt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

Really hurt him. You know, it's just. But what I like about them is last year, I felt like they were good enough to beat the Warriors. It was just like, game on the line, who's taking the last shot. Yeah. Now you got kd. There's no question anymore who's taking the last shot.

[PFT Commenter]

In the playoffs, it seemed like nobody wanted to take the last shot for him. Yeah, it was. Yeah. They didn't know how to score down the stretch. KD is a good way to fix that. But what about with the Thunder? Because I feel like a lot of people don't like watching the Thunder, but they're undeniably great. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like Alex.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Alex Caruso. Great player.

[Big Cat]

We just only asked about white guys.

[PFT Commenter]

He's Italian.

[Jokim Noah]

He's another great white hope.

[Big Cat]

He is. And we love Crusoe.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a good friend of ours.

[Zach]

They got him.

[Big Cat]

Well, too late.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's be fair. They've got a couple of MVP candidates. They got Caruso. They've got Chet.

[Jokim Noah]

Another great white hole. Yeah, another great.

[PFT Commenter]

These guys can play.

[Big Cat]

Jeez, man. But do you like to that question, like, does it bother you? You know, the whole foul merchant thing? I mean, Shay's still just awesome.

[Jokim Noah]

He's balling.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

It's interesting. So the coach, Mark, he's awesome. So he was in Florida, so I used to work out with him 20, 15 years ago at UF, and now he's the head coach winning it. Won a championship. Most humble guy. I was like. I saw him at Coach Donovan's ceremony for the. For hall of Fame.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And so humble about. I was like, yo, did you. Did you celebrate well? Did you. How was it for you? And he's like, you know, I. I didn't celebrate enough at all. He's like, I just. Right on to the next. I was like, jesus, man. These guys are so, so serious now. It's not even about celebrating anymore. They couldn't even open the bottles of champagne.

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Jokim Noah]

It's crazy.

[Big Cat]

You gotta just go crazy.

[Jokim Noah]

You gotta go for one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

I would have give up my left nut for a champion just for that party.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that would have been a great party. There would have been a lot of footage out of your party. That would have been funny.

[Jokim Noah]

That would have been fun.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, yeah, there. There would be. I feel like that's something that's kind of taken hold more in sports, is that they don't really cut loose as much as they used to.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, it's hard, man. It's like everybody got their phones out. You Can't. You know, if the guys go out, it's like the whole world knows. They were at this bar last night. It's like it wasn't like that when we were growing.

[Big Cat]

But you said, you said it last time you were on or maybe this time before that. Like being great is boring. And that's the part that people kind of miss is that like you to be a great basketball player, to be a great professional athlete, you got to do a lot of boring stuff and be in a routine that's for most people would just be like, this is boring.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah. So it's like you guys, you know, you guys got to wake up at 7am now you got your show on Fox, you know, that's. You can't get lit how you used to, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's for other reasons. But. Yeah, I can't get lit for days.

[PFT Commenter]

I occasionally get crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes you just got to get like a little lit on like a Friday. But yeah, no, you're right. Like we don't. I think people a lot of times think that me and Big Cat go out and party all the time.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially if we're at like the super bowl and we're on the road when.

[Big Cat]

Josh Allen wins the mvp.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Then you have to celebrate. Like you said, you got to celebrate some of the important things.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And. But that's one thing we probably should do better at is celebrating more. Josh Allen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Josh Allen won the mvp. He's a good friend of ours. We went and got out with him and we took a picture with Josh after he won the mvp. And let's just say my eyeballs were very large and everyone had. Had to make sure they let me know. But listen, Josh Allen won the mvp. What are you gonna do?

[Jokim Noah]

You gotta celebrate that.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta celebrate the smaller you gotta celebrate.

[Big Cat]

That's all it's about.

[Jokim Noah]

Celebrate the small things.

[Big Cat]

You gotta celebrate your like, you know, your friends accomplishments even more than yours or just have any, any reason to celebrate.

[Jokim Noah]

That's beautiful.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When a friend wins in a porn trope, my heart gets racing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you know, Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Real fast.

[Big Cat]

Could come up with a shitload of business ideas.

[PFT Commenter]

My palm starts sweating a little bit. Yeah, it's pretty good. I got a nosebleed. I was so excited.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, Joe, we love having you here, man.

[Jokim Noah]

This is.

[Big Cat]

It's always great seeing you. Everyone go check out the show NBA T2. It's on the YouTube. So the first episode's out now with, with Derek. And then when's episode two? Coming.

[Jokim Noah]

That's a great question.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Next week.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm gonna watch you guys get Morocco. Come on, man. Let's guys, show me some love, man. Get crunk and watch my show. Stop playing Nomad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, before you leave your. Your house today, put it on and have it be on replay and just walk away.

[Jokim Noah]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you give me one, like, Chicago thing? What did you learn when you did the Chicago travel show? Like, any. Anywhere that you went, Anything I should check out?

[Jokim Noah]

I went to, like, this blue spot. That was awesome. What was the name of it?

[Big Cat]

Oh, did make the final cut. You went to Mr. Beef, though.

[Jokim Noah]

Mr. Beef was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

I didn't know about Mr. Mr. Beef, so I went to go have a sandwich over there. The guys were awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, it's passed down from. I think it was the. The A father and now the son is running it. But they actually. There was a show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. The Bear.

[Jokim Noah]

Bear. The Bear, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And they went from, like, selling 60 sandwiches a day to selling like, 600 sandwiches from the show.

[Big Cat]

I love it. I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Was the Blues place. Was that Kingston Mines?

[Jokim Noah]

No, it wasn't Kingston Mines.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, last question. Rollback question. Rho B-A-K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. Give me one minute on these bowls this year. I'm sure you've talked to Billy a little. They're fun. It's early. Do you. Do you even does November basketball? Are you like, we gotta wait and see.

[Jokim Noah]

I'm impressed how competitive basketball is.

[Big Cat]

Right? Okay.

[Jokim Noah]

You know, I watch the games. The guys are into it. What I like about what? Something very underrated about sports in general. People always underestimate chemistry. You know, we could talk about stats and the star player and this and that, but when you enjoy playing with somebody, I think those guys. Look, there's eight guys scoring 10 points on the bulls. I think those guys just. They know if you're open, you're going to get the ball. Yeah, it's. It's as simple as that. And they're winning ball games off of it, and they have no big star players. And Josh Giddey, like, everybody was on him, like, oh, he's getting paid too much money. This and that. Yo, the kid's balling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's been incredible. You're so right about chemistry because it's. It's. Especially in basketball. Like, you know, baseball is an individual sport. Football, yes, there's chemistry, but there's 53 guys. Basketball, you can tell when a team has chemistry and when a team knows where the other guy's gonna be. And, like, it's beautiful when it works.

[Jokim Noah]

It's beautiful.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jokim Noah]

And Coach diamond is good at getting the guys, you know, getting guys going. So I'm. I'm really proud of the guys. I don't think every. Anybody thought they were going to be, what, seven and three or.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Start five, zero.

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I've had a little bit of a hiccup, but, I mean, losing to Wemby when he's just whapping threes in your face, it's not like a shameful thing.

[Jokim Noah]

It's not.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy.

[Jokim Noah]

Hurts.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy watching him do it. I don't know how unstoppable.

[Jokim Noah]

Trey ball. Get that out of here. Block.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the ball back.

[Hank]

Give me the ball.

[Big Cat]

Give me the ball. Hang hung.

[Jokim Noah]

Trey ball again. Get me out of here.

[Big Cat]

That's exactly what happened. Good. That was. If you missed the game. That was the last minute of the game.

[Jokim Noah]

And then he goes back to. He doesn't even get hype. He's like a real. Like, the Monk is real.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's concerning. It's concerning.

[Big Cat]

Do you talk French to him?

[Jokim Noah]

I mean, obviously.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's gotta kind of feel cool because everyone's trying to talk to Wemby, and then you can just slide in and just be like. Just hit him with some French.

[Jokim Noah]

Well, it's not. I don't talk to him too. That much.

[Big Cat]

No. But, like, did you see him last night?

[Jokim Noah]

Yeah, I saw him. So, no, I didn't. I didn't get to see him yesterday. I was talking to him and he said he. He went down. He said, put it.

[Big Cat]

What you say? We could talk in the mic.

[Jokim Noah]

So I stand up. I. I'm standing up. I see Wemby and hang on.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to hold the mic for you.

[Big Cat]

Got it? We got this.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Jokim Noah]

This is me.

[Big Cat]

All right, Joe Kes. Wait, you're Wemby right now.

[Jokim Noah]

This is. This is me.

[PFT Commenter]

Am I wimy.

[Jokim Noah]

Okay, wait, I'm talking. I'm like, yo, that. That was a great guy. He goes, what did you say?

[Big Cat]

To look down at you.

[Jokim Noah]

Look down on me. Like, I was like, holy. Nobody's ever done that before. Anyway, thank you.

[Big Cat]

That was awesome. That was great.

[Jokim Noah]

That was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Joe Keem, you're the best. Everyone go watch his show, NBA T2 on YouTube. Anytime you're around.

[Jokim Noah]

Nomad. Nomad.

[Big Cat]

Nomad.

[Jokim Noah]

Nomad.

[Big Cat]

Go watch it.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's wrap up the show with FAQs. Henry.

[Hank]

What's up, boys? Larry from Wisconsin here. Hey, Larry, just circling back on pft. Passing the bar. What's the update on that guy like me?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, a guy like me that. That likes beer? I never pass a bar. I go right in. Yeah, no, I think, yeah, I could pass the bar. I know Kim Kardashian. She failed the bar exam.

[Big Cat]

Well, so the question, I think what Larry is asking is I agree. You could pass the bar. Will you pass the bar? Is really the question.

[PFT Commenter]

If there's. If there's some upside in it.

[Hank]

Well, how? Well, yeah, Representing and helping.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's the upside?

[Hank]

Solve the problem and feeling being a change you wish to see in the world.

[Big Cat]

Completing a task you said you could complete.

[PFT Commenter]

What would be the upside in that? Maybe get a job at Morgan and Morgan. Yeah, I don't know. I Would. Yeah, I can. I. I. That's one thing. I have irrational confidence in myself to be able to pass the bar exam. I know it doesn't make any sense. I just think that if I. If I tried for, like, four months, is that how long it takes to be a lawyer?

[Big Cat]

I have no idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Like four. Yeah, you. You give me four months, I think I can. I can be a lawyer.

[Big Cat]

But will you try?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, that sounds good. I just got to think of what I would use my law degree for.

[Big Cat]

Well, I. No, I. I feel like it's more.

[Memes]

I think you should just give up on this.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think you should just say, hey, the law.

[Jokim Noah]

The.

[Big Cat]

The. The law beat me.

[PFT Commenter]

See, Hank, this is exactly what happened last time. I started talking about how I could do it, and then. And then all the bodies were like, just don't do it.

[Big Cat]

No, I. I think you could. Will you?

[Memes]

We're looking out for you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

By saying that you should not try.

[Big Cat]

And do a lot of work.

[PFT Commenter]

Being a lawyer, it would rock.

[Memes]

But you wouldn't be a lawyer.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd just sue everybody. I would sue you, man.

[Hank]

People go to law school for years and then fail the bar. Like, five.

[Memes]

I lived with my older brother, like. Like, he moved back home when he was at law school, and it looked like the most miserable thing on the planet. He just had bulletin boards all across, like, one room of our house.

[PFT Commenter]

It looked like Charlie Day.

[Memes]

Like, Charlie Day. It looked like Charlie Day.

[Big Cat]

And did he pass it on the first try?

[Memes]

He did pass it on the first.

[PFT Commenter]

Try, but like Claire Danes, he had.

[Memes]

No life for three years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but that's. If you go to law school. I'm talking about you can pass the bar exam without going to law school. You could do anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right. Again, you can.

[Memes]

But I think that makes it like going to law school helps you pass the bar.

[Hank]

No, that can't be true.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's where they indoctrinate you. That's where they teach you all the. All the laws they want you to know. I'll. I. You know what? I want to go to law. I want to get my law thing. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

Why don't you start with just the else? Morgan.

[Hank]

And Morgan, you.

[Big Cat]

Why don't you see where you. What. You. What you get on the lsat, and then we can go from there, because that's one you could just take.

[Hank]

What about the PSATs?

[PFT Commenter]

That's two different tests that I'd have to do.

[Big Cat]

Right, but the bar. You'd have to probably study For Elsa, you could just be like, let's just see where we're at.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. I. I want to do the bar. I want to do the bar. And I want to. I want to sue espn.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

For emotional distress. Class action lawsuit on behalf of America. And I will sue your least favorite general manager, too, when they do something up. Or your least favorite head coach. I think I can do it. What, Hank? What. What did you get? What was your upside if you could dunk.

[Hank]

Like 20 grand or something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he had a downside, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, we can figure out a downside.

[Big Cat]

Okay. You got to go to jail.

[PFT Commenter]

Commit one crime. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You gotta go to. And you gotta get caught and go to jail.

[PFT Commenter]

But you have to turn myself in.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I get to represent myself in court.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, that if you pass the bar. If you don't pass the bar, you have to go to jail.

[Memes]

If you pass the bar, you can represent yourself in. In. Without being a lawyer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I will commit one crime.

[Memes]

And then turn yourself in with the.

[PFT Commenter]

Possibility of jail time. Turn myself in, and then represent myself in court. If I don't pass the bar exam.

[Hank]

That actually is just police chasing the El Camino. Would go crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

It would go vibe. Yeah.

[Hank]

It'd be good promo for the show. Like, we'll record some of the podcasts on the phone and then we can put it out, like the next day after.

[Memes]

Are we accomplices right now?

[Big Cat]

We don't always.

[PFT Commenter]

As of pending lawyers, possibly.

[Big Cat]

Why don't you just say, fuck the bar? Why don't you just do this? Just. It's like the rogue bar. If you can defend yourself and get out of it, I'm going to consider you a lawyer.

[Hank]

Well, you're one and.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

One and only lifetime.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No. So I will. I will do that. If I do not pass the bar exam.

[Big Cat]

I'm saying, like, don't even take me. Don't worry about the bar. Just prove that you can be a lawyer. No, that's committing a crime and then defending yourself and getting out of the crime.

[PFT Commenter]

I get it. That's a. That's a great idea. But that's the downside of the. That's. That's what I have to do. If I don't pass the bar, the.

[Big Cat]

Punishment is just having to prepare for the bar. That's terrible.

[PFT Commenter]

If I do pass the bar. 20 grand.

[Zach]

Yeah, you don't have to prepare for anything. You can just go straight to the league if you commit that crime.

[Big Cat]

And then you got honorary bar. No studying yeah, right.

[Memes]

I'm trying to think of, like, things I would want to do. That's. That's, like, at the very bottom of my list of, like, things that I would want to do in my life. Trying. I'm thinking, like, run a marathon. I think I would rather run a marathon than. Than study for the bar.

[Big Cat]

Do you. Any test? Yeah, I don't want to take any test ever again in my life.

[Memes]

That's my biggest anxiety. Like, I have stress dreams when I'm stressed out. And it's always me back at school, like. Like walking into a final that I'm not prepared for. I have that dream all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it goes back to high school.

[Memes]

So why are you, like, why do you want to do this?

[Big Cat]

He doesn't. I just thinks he can.

[PFT Commenter]

I just think that I can.

[Memes]

But, like, we're giving you an out. No one is saying that you have to do this.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but it's making me want Larry from.

[Big Cat]

Except Larry.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Larry.

[PFT Commenter]

It's making me want to do it more. The more you guys tell me that I shouldn't.

[Memes]

Like, we're not even saying that you can't. We're just saying that this seems horrendous.

[PFT Commenter]

Better call Solid burger. I feel like. No, now I kind of want to do it. It. I want to do it, and I want. And I'm going to use the law. It's just a weapon. I'm going to be such an lawyer.

[Big Cat]

Just want it on the record because I think Max and I are on the same page here. When. When you say we're saying you can't do it, we're not saying you can't do it. We're saying it's going to sound. It sounds miserable. You have something.

[Hank]

You better shouldn't do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You have better things to do with your life.

[PFT Commenter]

But think.

[Big Cat]

We're not doubting you. We are not in the doubters or the haters.

[Memes]

You want us to be down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You want. You're trying to put doubter on us, but we're not doubting that.

[PFT Commenter]

I just don't like how you guys are trying to talk me out of it.

[Big Cat]

But. But. But we're not. We're just saying it's gonna suck.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll show you. Okay, now think. Think about all the stuff I could do if I had a lot.

[Memes]

Not really long, like, nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I. I would threaten to sue all of our enemies all the time.

[Hank]

You still do that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing in your life will change.

[PFT Commenter]

But then I could put three little letters behind my Name and it would look more official in my emails. That's true. I could bill people I don't even know.

[Memes]

Is that true?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, probably.

[Big Cat]

I got a lot, I think. Yeah, I have three letters. Don't you still have to get a license?

[PFT Commenter]

There are some states where I think if you pass the bar exam, you're automatically licensed to practice law. Yeah, John, I talked to him like a year ago about it. I talked to the Morgan. He said. He said, yeah, let's get you on board.

[Hank]

Hell yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, thanks.

[Hank]

Thanks, Larry.

[Big Cat]

Yes. You need a license to practice law in Illinois.

[PFT Commenter]

In Illinois. Okay, maybe. Maybe like Cayman Islands.

[Big Cat]

Now. PFT is going to be like commuting to Indiana every. Every week to. To practice his law.

[PFT Commenter]

Might just get a house in Gary.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So no, passing the bar in Illinois does not automatically make you a lawyer.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So now there's really no reason.

[Memes]

You must also pass the mpre. Have no idea what that is. Have a character in fitness review cleared and be sworn in by the Illinois Supreme Court.

[PFT Commenter]

I beat you in golf, Hank. That. That should go somewhere.

[Hank]

So it doesn't count. This is just misremembering of facts. Crazy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, can't.

[Hank]

Can't say I'm surprised. Just out of curiosity, does Hank still think soap doesn't do anything when you shower? Oh, as someone who once dated a guy who didn't use body wash when he showered, he smelled like dried up towel. Does Hank smell like that too?

[Big Cat]

You don't.

[Hank]

My take was that it's. That body wash doesn't work on your armpits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You remember that whole debate?

[Memes]

No, that was. Oh, that was a fair take.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. No, but that was one of the dumbest things I've ever gotten in. Yeah, you should.

[Memes]

It doesn't.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean? Are we doing this again?

[Memes]

Like, if you use body wash on your armpits and you don't use deodorant, like. Well, yeah, your armpits still smell like an hour late.

[Big Cat]

Same with your ass.

[Memes]

You put deodorant on your.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm saying if you don't wash your ass. I'm saying there's parts of your body. Your feet. If you, if you wash your feet. That doesn't mean they won't start smelling.

[Hank]

You don't need to put deodorant on your ass. You don't need to. Well, you're on your hand.

[Big Cat]

You probably should.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If you were walking around with your ass cheeks spread wide wearing like a. A thong all day, then. Yes, you would.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If you have your shoes off and, like, yeah, they smell.

[PFT Commenter]

But body wash does get the smell off, correct?

[Big Cat]

Temporarily.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And I use body wash, so just.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On your legs.

[Hank]

Wood, bro. Not a big leg washer. I know. That's a. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I didn't know stereotype.

[Hank]

I fall under that stereotype.

[Big Cat]

This came up on the Yak last week, and I was shocked that, like, people just don't wash their legs.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It takes two seconds.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wash your leg.

[Hank]

I just, like, don't do it.

[Big Cat]

I understand that, but it doesn't. Like, I'm not.

[PFT Commenter]

Not.

[Big Cat]

I'm not, like, getting a loofah out and scrub my legs. I just squirt a bunch of soap. Do my upper body. Squirt some more soap. Rub my legs. Done.

[PFT Commenter]

You touch your toes, you go all the way down.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't touch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, see? Yeah. I'll go down to the knee.

[Memes]

Washing the bottom of your feet is scary. Like, I do it sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it is. Max is right.

[Memes]

Because I did it this. I did it this morning, and I was scared, like, because you get.

[Jokim Noah]

Get.

[Memes]

The bottom of your feet gets soapy, and then you have to balance on the other one and it's slippery.

[Big Cat]

I see what you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When you have to, like, lift the leg up, too.

[Memes]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's. It's the second one. So your. Your plant foot is slippery already.

[Big Cat]

Not do that anymore, Max.

[Memes]

Nobody have to. I got stinky feet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

People forget that PMT dropped 2 hit songs in the past. When are we getting the trilogy to Drink Paint? And it's chunky.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see.

[Big Cat]

Was there not a third one?

[PFT Commenter]

Drink Paint.

[Big Cat]

Bank.

[PFT Commenter]

It's bank. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Trilogy complete.

[PFT Commenter]

It's out now. Part of my take. Featuring Benny the Butcher. Butcher come and sass. Yeah, actually.

[Big Cat]

Boom. We did it. Checkbox.

[PFT Commenter]

I Low key think that at the bank was the best song.

[Hank]

Same.

[Big Cat]

I love. I like Drink Paint a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Drink Paint was good.

[Hank]

I fucking love Drink Paint in the bayou. Someone. Someone made a remix, too. We have to put that at the end of the episode. Someone made a banger a Drink Pain remix.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just the Coacho stuff, right?

[Big Cat]

What. What was the. What's the call to that? Drink Pain. That's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Drink Paint, get lit. Drink Paint.

[Hank]

That's my.

[Big Cat]

That music video. We tape part of it outside of Blake Portal's house on the beach.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. We recorded with Sunny Digital.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's still the first two songs.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the third was with Benny the Butcher's guy up in Buffalo. And Benny and Arian Foster helped produce the track.

[Clayton Kershaw]

That's gr.

[Big Cat]

Getting lit.

[Jokim Noah]

Drink pain. That's my drink.

[Big Cat]

That's grit. We. Maybe we'll do one this year. We are. We are going to do so for the longtime Awls. They know this. But Grit week used to be right before Memorial Day. And I think we might do that this year. We might do. We might go back to that. So that was during OTAs. So maybe we'll do a song. Maybe we can plan ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm down.

[Hank]

We are doing that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we are doing that. But the song. I don't know.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Get Zach on the track. Zach. Zach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Zach's got flow. I'm getting a lot of comments about Zach's boomers. They're good.

[Zach]

That was. That was all Meek Mills flow. Just reciprocate or just reiterating it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That was his song.

[Hank]

Artistry. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Big Cat and pft.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Have you thought about how the show schedule may change once your children start competitive sports? Chris seems like he should be 16 by now.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't.

[Hank]

Chris has been four for a while.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean my.

[PFT Commenter]

He's born a leap day.

[Big Cat]

My oldest is. I don't know if I'd call it competitive, but he plays sports. Like I was at basketball practice last night.

[Hank]

What if he gets on the AAU circuit?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Yeah, I guess I don't answer the question.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We have not thought about it.

[PFT Commenter]

It. I. I recently got recruited to potentially be a T ball coach or Little league coach.

[Big Cat]

No, I. It's. T ball is. You don't want to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe, maybe once Little League comes around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I've. I've thought about it because I, I do want to coach my kids, but I like. I was at basketball practice last night. I'm not. We're not. We're not at a point where anything is sticking.

[PFT Commenter]

Every time I pass by like a kid pitch field where there's like an 8 year old or a 9 year old pitching, I'm always amazed that. That those games actually happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That they, that they proceed. That there's ever three outs in an inning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But the little, the little shout out all the coaches coaching kids that are like five, six years old. Because that's. It's tough. It's very tough. It's not coaching.

[Memes]

Coaching at any point. Like you just listen. Listen to people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

All the time. Time.

[Big Cat]

But there's definitely A sweet spot. It's like. Like maybe that, like, 9, 10 range where it's not serious, but they actually. The kids actually know how to do stuff. That sweet spot before it gets serious. But below seven, like, they don't. They just. You're not like, teaching plays. You're just trying to figure out how.

[Hank]

To drip run in a straight line.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right. Exactly.

[Hank]

Last one. What's up, PMT gang? Why do all of Max's friends get married during huge sports weekends? Oh, don't they know? Falls for football and playoff baseball.

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Max have bad friends. Every weekend's a huge sports weekend. When you're a Philly sports fan.

[Big Cat]

When you're a nut.

[Jokim Noah]

When you're.

[Big Cat]

When you're. When you're a sports nut. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know that that's true, though.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to. I'm trying to think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you just. You.

[Memes]

Your friends go to a lot of weddings.

[PFT Commenter]

I think your friends just get married a lot.

[Big Cat]

You just have too many friends.

[Memes]

I do. I do.

[PFT Commenter]

You're friends with a lot of really romantic dudes.

[Memes]

I will not be getting married over a huge sports weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

So a trade deadline.

[Memes]

Hot dog eating contest.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. We gotta. We gotta start planning bachelor party too.

[PFT Commenter]

Save some money on the catering. Maybe just get some dogs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, we gotta start playing that bachelor party.

[Hank]

Which one?

[Big Cat]

Which, like the second and sixth one that we're gonna do. We're in for 1 and 2 and 6. 1, 3, 4, 5 are gonna be Max's own doing. We're just gonna. Hey, we're gonna get you married. I hate that so much. Let's get this girl married. Let's get you married.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Hank]

My people.

[Big Cat]

The worst. That is the worst. I don't know if that came up in our Mount Rushmore, but that might. Might be the worst Instagram caption. Let's get these two married. You're not doing. Booked and busy getting drunk at a party. Let's get these two lovebirds married.

[PFT Commenter]

My person found their person. I have one more FAQ here. I don't know if Hank got this one. This is from Diane in New Jersey. Diana, New Jersey wants to know memes. Have you ever gotten the lottery ball?

[Big Cat]

Oh, that.

[Memes]

Wow.

[Jokim Noah]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

She ever got a report, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, did you and Shane make up? We're fine.

[Big Cat]

Big fucking baby. That doesn't sound like you made up, Shane. Hey, Shane. Are you and Memes okay? I don't know. Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, sounds really good.

[Big Cat]

Guys. Sounds like we're in a good spot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I've reached the point where I want Memes to get it now for the.

[Big Cat]

I'm not there yet.

[PFT Commenter]

For our own personal.

[Hank]

No.

[Clayton Kershaw]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, it actually is like. It's weirdly day to day for me. There'll be days where I'll want Memes to get it, and there's days where I'm like, that. Today's one of those.

[Memes]

Nah, I'm just. I don't want. I don't want Memes to get it, but I don't want to get it because if you get it, you're. You are in a bad spot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's a bully. Means he's being a bull.

[Big Cat]

Mean. Like you're a mean guy.

[Memes]

If you get it, no matter what you say, Memes hates you. Any. Any will make your life more difficult.

[PFT Commenter]

I want you to get this done.

[Big Cat]

To quote Ryan Whitney, he's a mean guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a nice guy.

[Big Cat]

I'm getting picked on. What do you mean? I'm get. I'm getting picked on right now by all of you.

[Jokim Noah]

Are we.

[Big Cat]

Are you.

[PFT Commenter]

Are we just asking.

[Big Cat]

Piling on?

[PFT Commenter]

We're just asking questions.

[Big Cat]

How are we picking on you? You could just.

[PFT Commenter]

How many get.

[Big Cat]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Jack.

[PFT Commenter]

Jack just refused to make eye contact there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're a mean guy. Yeah. How are we picking on you? Just get the. Get the number.

[PFT Commenter]

I have gotten it.

[Big Cat]

3.

[PFT Commenter]

I hope something bad happens.

[Memes]

I'll give you I hope something bad happens.

[Big Cat]

But he's not a mean guy.

[Memes]

That's a scary.

[Big Cat]

But he's not a mean guy. You could have three.

[PFT Commenter]

The crazy thing he actually.

[Big Cat]

I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it.

[Hank]

I don't want to take it.

[Big Cat]

All right, Hank, you want it?

[Hank]

Yeah, I would love it.

[Big Cat]

All right, I'll take 77.

[PFT Commenter]

It actually sounded like he meant that when he was like, I hope something bad happens.

[Big Cat]

We just. He just said, I'm being picked on. I'm not a mean guy. And then he said, I hope something bad happens. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

He's going to hire an Etsy witch.

[Big Cat]

Jeez, Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to go 98, 61, 44.

[Big Cat]

Hank has three. I have 77. We go 48, 99, 86, 48. So was your number 48? Oh, 82. 82.

[PFT Commenter]

Wanna do one more?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's do one more, but let's switch. Everyone get new numbers.

[Hank]

All right, I'll do 22.

[Memes]

I'll do 77.

[Big Cat]

I'll do 48.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you say it. Say. No, you just said it. No, I didn't say it. You Max said it.

[Memes]

I said I'll take 77. I don't want three.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll take three. All right, there you go.

[Big Cat]

I actually don't want 48.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, 48 is a scary number. I don't want any. I don't want any.

[Big Cat]

Scariest number in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, just a heads up. If it is three, I'm just gonna go.

[Big Cat]

If it's 48, I'm out of here. Yeah, see you guys like next week. Memes, what's your number? 100. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Memes]

1150.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Pug with 11.

[Memes]

You said he had to switch numbers.

[Big Cat]

15. Oh, 1558. And we all just dodged a brother.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.