Coach O In Studio, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Sounds, UFC 319, England Wants A Super Bowl And Preseason Week 2

Summary

Pardon My Take – August 18, 2025

Episode Title: Coach O In Studio, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Sounds, UFC 319, England Wants A Super Bowl And Preseason Week 2

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Episode Overview

This fun-packed episode of Pardon My Take features:

• An in-studio appearance by legendary football coach Ed Orgeron ("Coach O")
• A hilarious and nostalgic chat about his coaching life and LSU's championship run
• Reviews and wild stories from UFC 319 as Barstool went full MMA mode
• The latest NFL Preseason drama: quarterback battles, fan fights, and patch size disputes
• A raucous debate over the England Super Bowl proposition
• The "Mt Rushmore of Worst Sounds" draft—a classic PMT bit full of banter
• News bites: MLB expansion, CFB playoff realignment rumors, and who’s back of the week

As always, Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Hank, Memes, Max, Zach, and Coach O (plus guest appearances) deliver the irreverent but insightful sports chat that defines PMT.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Kicking Off and Preseason Football Talk

[00:00–14:40]

• Team banter about broken clocks in the studio serves as a lighthearted reminder: “We’re so close to football season!”
• Preseason Week 2 is in full swing. The PMT crew discusses fan fights (“there was an awesome fight in the Jaguars–Saints game, and the guy’s pants came down…” — Big Cat [05:32]), football weather fantasies, and how the structure of preseason games is shifting.
• Quarterback controversy and predictions dominate the NFL preseason convo:
  • Will Joe Flacco start in Cleveland? What about the Giants and Daniel Jones?
  • New Orleans Saints QB room chaos: “Jake Hayner was throwing a rugby ball on the sideline...he looked zesty!” — Big Cat [09:46]
• Memes predicts: the New York Jets run game will be record-breaking.
  • “We’re just going to watch Army-Navy every week. You can’t throw INTs when you run it!” — Big Cat [12:14]
• Peak preseason attitude: “Week 2 is now the new week 3...week 3 used to be the dress rehearsal; now week 2 is the dress rehearsal.” — Hank [06:22]

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2. Eagles Trades and Howie Roseman Praise

[14:43–15:35]

• “Did Howie do it again?”—The guys celebrate the Eagles' trade for John Metchie and a safety named Mukuba.
  • “Ball hawk. Good for you.” — Big Cat [15:24]
  • “Howie did it again” is repeated ad nauseam in Philly optimism.

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3. The PMT Crew Goes to UFC 319

[15:43–32:00]

• The guys recount attending UFC 319 at United Center (Chicago):
  • Observations: UFC is the top “bald sport”—even the entire security staff is bald.
  • Security shenanigans: Big Cat takes the wrong entrance, tries to make amends.
    • “I was looking for approval, which is probably something I need to talk to my therapist about.” — Big Cat [17:36]
  • On crowd makeup: “Everyone at a UFC fight is a different iteration of Ryan Russillo.” — Big Cat [16:12]
  • They sat next to MMA legend Kamaru Usman, peppering him with fight questions.
• Notable quotes:
  • “UFC 319, United Center. Electric crowd, great crowd. Back-to-back spinning back elbow knockouts—those are the ninth and tenth ever in UFC history. We got them back-to-back.” — Big Cat [18:51]
  • “Fight him! Punch him!” — Max, as a passionate UFC guy [20:47]
  • “It was something stunning about how much he ragdolled Dricus.” — Big Cat [26:39]
• Discussion of Hamzat’s (Chimaev) main event as dominance-over-excitement: “He was in control the whole fight but never even went for a submission. Is it impressive to lay on someone for 25 minutes? Yes; is it fun to watch? Not really.” — Big Cat [22:13; 27:09]
  • “There are competitors and there are entertainers. I always say that I like a little bit of showmanship in my UFC.” — Hank [25:32]
• The “getting poured on walking home” story: Memes and Zach describe getting caught in a massive rainstorm post-event.
  • “We just embraced it, shared some laughs, and got back.” — Zach [28:38]
  • “I thought I was going to die at the office. I saw a black shadowy figure: it was just Memes.” — Zach [29:15]
• Joe Missoula and Ryan Russillo are seen in the crowd; “Multiple Russillos at every UFC event.” [16:05–16:35]

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4. Savannah Bananas & Baseball Hijinks

[30:37–32:01]

• Quick recap: Big Cat went to see the Savannah Bananas, the viral exhibition baseball team.
  • “I know the people who don’t like the Bananas...but they’re great guys, just regular dudes, made my son’s day.” — Big Cat [30:42]
• Max’s Dingers Only challenge becomes a running in-joke: “Has the challenge been completed? ...I’m just gonna hold it against you.” — Max [31:46]

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5. National Sports News: Golf, MLB, CFB Expansion

[32:01–41:44]

• Golf:
  • Scotty Scheffler’s dominant PGA stats: “Half his starts are top-tens...14 wins in 33 starts. That’s crazy.” — Big Cat [32:43]
  • Rob with 2 Bs’ “email pick” for Tommy Fleetwood ignites joking debate and 16-1 bets.
    • “I believe in Rob more than Tommy Fleetwood.” — Big Cat [35:28]
• MLB Expansion and Realignment:
  • “They might realign the leagues, grouping teams closer together for less wear and tear.” — Big Cat [35:58]
  • “I think they should do the opposite—get rid of interleague play.” — Big Cat [36:10]
• College Football Playoff Expansion:
  • “The Big Ten is floating 24 or 28 team playoff conversations per Pete Thamel...that’s a lot of teams.” — Hank [38:14]
  • Unanimous distaste for further playoff bloat: “No, thank you. I think 12 is fine.” — Big Cat [39:08]

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6. Who’s Back of the Week & The England Super Bowl Debate

Who's Back [43:22–54:52], England Segment [43:22–54:52]

• Notable Who's Back:
  • “England—the Premier League is back!” — Memes [43:22]
  • Heated (hilarious) debate over the idea of holding a Super Bowl in London:
    • “We fought a war in 1776 to keep our football American!” — Hank [45:51]
    • “You want to watch a Super Bowl at noon? I’m going to riot!” — Big Cat [50:15]
    • Time zones become a comedic black hole: “If we recorded at 10pm London time, that’d be like 4pm here, what don’t you understand!” — Big Cat [53:04]
• PMT’s core stance: the Super Bowl is American and should stay that way; Memes is alone on “let’s try London.”

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7. College Football Scandal: Michigan & NCAA Sign-Stealing Penalties

[55:32–61:19]

• PFT reports the NCAA’s severe penalties for Michigan (and Connor Stalions): monetary and scholarship fines, multi-year Coaching bans.
  • “Harbaugh or someone called Michigan’s own compliance office ‘scum and the enemy’...it’s like Toby from The Office.” — PFT [57:01]
  • “The only real punishment: Sherrone Moore got suspended for a game...after all that!” — Big Cat [57:26]
  • Absurd details: “Connor Stallions destroyed his iPhone and threw it in a pond—great operational security.” — PFT [56:31]
• General conclusion: Michigan will keep its 2024 title, to Ohio State fans’ chagrin; asterisks are for the fans, not the record books.

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8. Mt Rushmore of Worst Sounds

[67:06–85:00]

• The classic PMT “Mount Rushmore” draft:
  • Notable picks (with timestamps for first mentions):
    • Nails on chalkboard [69:32] — “That’s the very definition of a bad sound.” — Hank
    • Alarm to wake up [70:34]
    • Baby crying on a plane [70:56]
    • 60 Minutes ticking after 4pm NFL games [70:23]
    • Car window buffeting on the highway [71:46]
    • Knives/forks scraping a plate [72:04]
    • Tony Romo’s commentary [72:16]
    • Loud chewing [75:28]
    • Violent throw up [74:12]
    • Massive shit in an adjacent stall [74:52]
    • Fake orgasm noises, Vuvuzelas, car not starting, injury “pop” sounds, gunshots (honorable mentions)
  • Laugh-out-loud debate on the relative pain of each sound, generational lines (“they don’t even have chalkboards anymore!”), and Max’s “the sound of his own voice” [79:23].
  • “Sometimes you just hear that noise and you’re like, well, I’m gonna have to deal with this.” — Hank on terrible sounds [77:14]

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9. Extended Sit-Down: Coach O In Studio

[87:58–146:51]

(Key Segment)

• Coach O returns to PMT:
  • Life after LSU, getting the “itch” to coach again (“I got my boys settled coaching football now, and I’m getting the itch again.” — Coach O [89:01])
  • Legendary recruiting stories—
    • The Joe Burrow saga: “If you get Joe Burrow, we’re going to the college football playoff. Let’s go get him now.” — Coach O [97:21]
    • Eating worms to hype up a team: “That worm was crawling around my mouth.” — Coach O [93:27]
    • Eating five bowls of bison chili to impress a recruit's family [111:54]
  • Perspectives on coaching, change, and leadership:
    • “We attack problems, not people.” — Coach O [124:30]
    • “I’m not gonna tell a grown man when to play golf, but if he’s doing it on our time, then it’s a problem.” (on managing staff personalities) [125:07]
  • Defensive philosophy and adjustments:
    • “We had a saying: tell the truth Monday, competition Tuesday, turnover Wednesday, no-repeat Thursday, focus Friday, win on Saturday.” [127:17]
  • Epic player development:
    • “Joe Burrow was the key. For us to get a great quarterback, and for us to develop him.” [132:18]
  • On NIL, the portal, and modern CFB: “Whoever adapts and maneuvers through the system is going to win. I wanna win, so I’ll adapt and adjust.” [139:34]
  • Recruiting the family: “Recruit the champion—the real decision maker. Sometimes it’s not the recruit, it’s the brother or the mama.” [102:26]
  • Miami/USC/LSU/College football memories: coaching under legends like Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll, wild Miami practices, and sizing up athletes (“I just look at ‘em and know—she’s an athlete, she’s got stiff hips…” [119:33])

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10. End of Show: Numbers Game & Introducing Vibes Guy Colton

[148:28–151:53]

• Colton, filling in for Pug, is introduced as a "vibes guy" from Arizona with a background in pranks (“My first big viral prank: asking kids where the G spot was.” — Colton [149:07])
• Banter about oversized shirts, action sports, Randy Johnson jerseys, and the Arizona Suns/Spurs rivalry.
• Numbers game is played (winning number: 96).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

– Joe Burrow's recruitment saga:

“I got two receivers, man. Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. You haven’t heard about ‘em yet.” — Coach O [97:37]

“Joe never lost a 110.” — Coach O [103:13]

– On coaching philosophy:

“We attack problems, not people.” — Coach O [124:30]
“If you’re not talking to the other guys, somebody’s competing.” — Coach O on recruiting [101:59]

– Re: the England Super Bowl debate:

“We fought a war back in 1776 to keep our football American.” — Hank [45:51]
“You want to watch the Super Bowl at noon? I’m gonna riot.” — Big Cat [50:15]

– On Hamzat’s UFC 319 performance:

“If you take someone down for 25 minutes and wrestle them, you should have to submit them...Or at least try to.” — Big Cat [22:14]

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Key Timestamps

• 00:00: Episode intro; studio clocks broken; football talk
• 05:32: Jaguars-Saints fan fight (“the pants came down”)
• 15:43–32:00: UFC 319 breakdown & stories
• 43:22: “Who’s Back” & England Super Bowl debate
• 67:06–85:00: Mt Rushmore of Worst Sounds
• 87:58–146:51: Extended in-studio interview with Coach O

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Overall Tone and Style

The episode is brimming with classic PMT playful antagonism, sports-obsessed rants, genuine affection for Coach O and his stories, and plenty of group-laughs and pop-culture asides. Coach O brings a blend of football wisdom, wild recruiting tale, and the “do whatever it takes” energy PMT loves to showcase.

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For New Listeners

If you missed this episode, you’ll get:

• Inside stories from one of CFB’s most memorable recent title runs
• An authentic feel for the PMT cast’s group dynamics—funny, chaotic, and sports-mad
• Candid, vivid breakdowns of the week’s sports stories—football and beyond
• Laugh-out-loud banter and running jokes about everything from time zones to the worst sounds in life

Whether you’re a Coach O fan, NFL/CBB diehard, or just in need of a good sports-and-culture hang, this episode is a classic PMT blend of interviews, hot takes, and hilarious asides.

Transcript

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Coach O]

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[Hank]

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[Coach O]

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[Hank]

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[Coach O]

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[Big Cat]

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[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

What happened back there?

[Big Cat]

Our clocks are already dead.

[Hank]

We lose power.

[Big Cat]

I know we're going to talk some sports, but our clocks are already dead. What happened to our clocks?

[Coach O]

We. We.

[Zach]

We've got to get a. A permanent power solution to the clocks. We were borrowing power. It's.

[Hank]

What do you mean, power?

[Big Cat]

We stealing it from the neighbors.

[Zach]

We.

[Coach O]

It.

[Zach]

It was impermanent. It's going to become permanent.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Make it permanent. Yes, sir. Jersey Jerry.

[Zach]

Permanent.

[Hank]

So we got to plug them in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but.

[Zach]

Yes, but there's. We're just going to make. We gotta make sure it's safe, make sure it's routed, and they'll be back up better than ever.

[Big Cat]

They're back up right now.

[Coach O]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Back up right now.

[Hank]

We are 17 days till football.

[Big Cat]

Yes. I was gonna say that's how I wanted to lead this, the show, but the clocks were broken. I'm feeling it. Boys work. So close. We're so goddamn close.

[Hank]

The weird thing is with those clocks, when they're broken, they're actually not right twice a day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because they're just digital clocks. Yeah.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But we're. We are so close. This has been. I don't know, I feel like this has been the longest summer in terms of, like, not a lot of sports going on. We've done a good job talking baseball. We're going to talk UFC today, but we're so close. We have week zero this weekend. You could just feel it. I could feel it in the air. Football is right here.

[Hank]

I was outside a couple of days ago, was so hot. I just thought to myself, man, this would be perfect if it was a fall morning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

If it was Saturday, 60 degrees outside, maybe you get an outdoor fire going. You got the outdoor TVs, you got the cooler, you got the grill on. Neighbors are cooking burgers. Just smelling like football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Smelling like football. All right, so preseason, do we have anything that we care about? There was an awesome fight in the Jaguars, New Orleans Saints game. That was my biggest takeaway.

[Hank]

I think we should do some predictions because I think we're going to get starting quarterbacks announced maybe this week.

[Coach O]

What?

[Memes]

Players fought.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't players. It was two fans. And then the guy. Did you Watch. Did you see the video? It was awesome. Play. It's playing right now.

[Hank]

I think that was actually Travis Hunter.

[Big Cat]

It was Travis Hunter versus Saints guy. And they actually. Probably better than the main event of UFC 319.

[Hank]

Oh, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Although there was some ground and pound in this fight.

[Hank]

Great offense and defense by Travis Hunter in this fight.

[Coach O]

The.

[Big Cat]

The level you have to be to get in a fist fight in an NFL game first, and then second, have it be a preseason game. You just got to love the hustle by these guys. Yes. The pants come down.

[Hank]

Yeah, the pants fall down at the end is.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When you're trying to go for more and your pants fall down. And then they both fell. But yeah, that. That's a. These guys are like fans of the year material. Because to. To. To like a preseason game, no one cares. You're showing up. It's usually probably for your, like, your. You have season tickets. You're like, fuck it, I'll bring my kids. Middle of the day, whatever. And then you're getting in a fist fight and your pants are falling down.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Fan of the year.

[Hank]

The pants falling down. It's a good. I saw a guy take his pants off at a fight one time just to scare the other guy away.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I thought you're talking about Max for a second.

[Hank]

No, because nobody wants to fight a guy that. That has his dick and balls out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Think about it.

[Big Cat]

No, that is true. Yeah, his pants. And then they both fell. But that was my biggest takeaway from. From preseason week two. I get so hyped up for week one, preseason. Then week two happens. I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot they're doing the preseason again.

[Hank]

Well, I think week two is now the new week three.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Week three, people forget, was a dress rehearsal.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

Week two is now the dress rehearsal. And then week three. I don't think we're gonna see too many starters.

[Big Cat]

Did see Caleb play. Felt good.

[Coach O]

Yep. Look good.

[Big Cat]

It's preseason, though. There's one Bills player playing on defense, one starter. Patches. Did you guys see the Tomorrow? I don't know if tomorrow's a starter. Do you see the patches are too big?

[Hank]

Yeah, they're. They're significantly bigger than I thought they'd be.

[Big Cat]

They're too big. Yeah.

[Coach O]

Too big.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say?

[Hank]

Hey, the Georgia look nice.

[Big Cat]

No jersey look good. It's preseason, dude. Come on. We're not going to get excited.

[Memes]

Well, I meant aesthetically.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're not going to get excited about.

[Hank]

But Caleb. Caleb looked real good on that first Drive.

[Big Cat]

Preseason.

[Hank]

That's a man that is in command of the offense.

[Big Cat]

What are we talking about? Preseason?

[Hank]

Ben Johnson, boy genius.

[Big Cat]

Nah, can't get me excited. Oh, perfect. He was. Caleb was 6 of 10. Perfect.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's a perfect stat line for me right now. But, yeah, there was.

[Coach O]

So.

[Big Cat]

So tell me more about the quarterbacks. What do you think? I mean, Well, I think.

[Hank]

I think we're going to get announcements from the teams this week of who the starting guys are going to be in Cleveland.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

And Dylan Gabriel, after the game was over, he. Or it was on the sidelines, I think maybe even during the game. During the game, said, there's competitors and there's entertainers. I want to be competitor. I think I showed that today. Paraphrasing. But that's. That's what he. That's what. What he was getting at. It did feel like a direct shot at Joe Flacco.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This was a situation. I know afterwards he said that was not a shot of Shador Sanders, but I don't think that you can get mad at anyone who thought immediately that was a shot. It's Shador Sanders. I never thought that Dylan Gabriel would actually take a shot at a teammate during a game. It's just. You got to use a different cliche because he said he's been using that cliche for a while. Use a different one because everyone's going to jump and be like, oh, man, he took a shot at Shador Sanders.

[Hank]

This is something that his old coaches have told him.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

In the past. So he's just. He's. He's doing media for, you know, like, national NFL media. He's thinking back to, like, what are the most boring cliches that I've heard coaches tell me? Y. I'm just going to say those. I think he said that. My first thought was, honestly, like, I don't. Would you qualify Shador as an entertainer?

[Big Cat]

He does have a song, doesn't he?

[Hank]

Does he? I know his brother does.

[Big Cat]

Pretty sure he has a song, too.

[Hank]

So I. I don't know. I. I did not think that he was going to talk openly about his competition right now. I think he's just kind of doing coach speak.

[Big Cat]

So who do you think is gonna be the Brown starting quarterback?

[Hank]

Flacco. I still. I still think. Because if you think about it from the coach Persp. Perspective of, like, how do you extend this thing? How do you keep your job going? And Stefanski is a really good coach.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Year. One year.

[Hank]

Yeah. But I. I think what he's going to do is start Flacco and then he'll continue to have Gabriel and Sanders kind of like going shot for shot. Seeing. Figuring out who the next guy up is going to be.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

And he's going to buy himself a couple weeks by having Flacco start. Got it. That's my prediction.

[Big Cat]

Okay. What other ones? Giants. I mean, Jackson dart look good.

[Hank]

You look good.

[Big Cat]

Again, it's.

[Hank]

He completed everything. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Backups. Whatever. Whatever you want to say it. But he did look good.

[Hank]

He made all the right choices.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then Indy.

[Big Cat]

Daniel Jones.

[Hank]

I think it's. I think it might be Daniel Jones. And I. I saw one fan. I'll have to look up who it is. There was one fan that said, I will drink my own piss if Daniel Jones is the start of this year.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is sterile.

[Hank]

Those are. Yeah, it is. And then the Saints. The Saints have, I guess, three quarterbacks.

[Big Cat]

Jake Hayner was throwing a rugby ball on the sideline.

[Hank]

I saw that. Rugby's back.

[Coach O]

Yep. It looked.

[Hank]

It look big in his hand.

[Big Cat]

So big. And he looked zesty doing it.

[Hank]

It looked absurd. They've got him. They've got Spencer Rattler, who looked pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

And Tyler Shuck.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Who he might start.

[Hank]

He is a. He's a human.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't. I can't figure the Saints out other than the who. Who's on who. Oh, is Kevin Clark. When he's like. Yeah. The only reason the Saints might, like, screw this up is that they're. They can't not win games. They win like five, six games. They don't bottom out correctly.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it does feel that way. You're forgetting one big QB competition.

[Hank]

Oh, the Eagles.

[Big Cat]

No, I was going to say the Rams. Yeah. Matthew Stafford's back versus any type of information on it and sets. Nothing. We. McVeigh said that he's going to address the team or the media on Monday. It still doesn't make any sense.

[Hank]

Hank. You're spilling a lot of water on the floor. Right.

[Big Cat]

That's okay. That's okay, Hank.

[Hank]

It's preseason for water bottles.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen there.

[Hank]

I don't know. I still think Matt Stafford's going to do it.

[Big Cat]

I do, too, but I'm starting to get to the point where when you're trying to figure out who the playoff teams are and we're going to do some more NFL previews when we get closer in the next week or two, when you're trying to Figure out who the playoff teams are. It's not that I don't think Matt Stafford's going to start the season. I don't know. Can he finish the season?

[Hank]

I think he can start and finish the season, but I think he'll probably miss a couple of games inside the season.

[Big Cat]

But that's. That's significant. There' big drop off between Matthew Stafford and Sets and Bennett.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yes. I know.

[Hank]

Yes, there is.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Huge one. All right. Any other. Any other. Oh, you. Oh, you had the DTR experience, right, Max? I can't believe. I can't believe he's on a roster.

[Max]

I mean, he's probably going to get cut.

[Big Cat]

I miss. I'll miss betting against him.

[Max]

I watched. I watched like the first two drives and he.

[Coach O]

It.

[Max]

He just doesn't know how to take a sack. He just doesn't know how to take a sack.

[Hank]

Do we, Memes, you had the Torod.

[Big Cat]

Taylor experience or do we have a Justin Fields update? Memes. Memes said. Oh, go ahead, Memes.

[Zach]

He went one for five throwing four yards.

[Big Cat]

It's prec. He's trailed off there.

[Zach]

I think he had three yards.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, it's preseason. Memes said to me that he thinks the New York jets this year are going to break the record for rushing attempts.

[Coach O]

That could be.

[Big Cat]

They.

[Zach]

They did drive yesterday where they only ran it.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Zach]

I think I. I think we're just gonna watch Army Navy every single week.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of fun, though. You can't throw interceptions when you run it.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The defense just has to play good. But the big thing from the jets game this weekend was Abdul Carter completely crash out online.

[Big Cat]

Oh, what happened? I missed that.

[Zach]

So Abdul Carter got pancaked by Stone.

[Hank]

Smart, our tight end.

[Zach]

Our third string tight end.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

So Abdul Carter took to Twitter. Go to. It's called X X the everything at.

[Big Cat]

What do you say? Oh, did you quote, tweet him? I did, yeah. All right. He said might be the only highlight of the jets all season. And we put BTA Ass. Weak ass chip ate that motherfucker. Like bbq.

[Hank]

He ate it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I mean, he did get knocked on his ass twice on the same play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did.

[Hank]

I don't think you could say weak ass chip. It was a good chip. Yeah, it was a strong ass chip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And yeah, because you also wouldn't. Wouldn't you. If you're Abdul Carter, you don't want to get knocked down by a weak ass chip.

[Hank]

No, he got knocked.

[Big Cat]

I want to get knocked down by the biggest chip you can find?

[Hank]

Yeah, he did eat it. He ate the chip.

[Big Cat]

He got chipped to death.

[Hank]

Yeah. Good block, though. Two good blocks on that play.

[Big Cat]

It's preseason, guys.

[Coach O]

What are we doing?

[Big Cat]

Let's get to the ring.

[Hank]

I saw the reporter before the game. He was interviewing Dable and he was like, so the two New York teams, does that add a little extreme of bad blood to this game, even though it's a preseason? And Dable was just like, no, no. He's like, it's a preseason game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you guys, you guys agree with me that, like, preseason Week one feels special in the fact that you get to see it on tv? And then you're like, all right, when Preseason Week two, I. I knew the Bears were playing Sunday night because it was like on Fox and everything, but all the other games, I would just, I would look at, you know, ESPN and it would be like Saturday at like 2:00'. Clock. Like, oh, shit, those two teams are playing right now.

[Hank]

Yeah. Preseason week two, week three is a good reminder of which backup quarterbacks are still in the NFL.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Let's get it on.

[Hank]

That's what I like.

[Big Cat]

Let's get it on. Yeah.

[Max]

I had preseason football on my mount. On my list of Mount Rushmore last week of things we get over that we get hyped about, that don't live.

[Hank]

Up to it, that things you don't understand the hype about.

[Max]

Like you.

[Big Cat]

I think we, we. I think most people don't hype it as much as we hype it. And I'm here to say that I, I. Someone set a reminder for myself that you're going to get hyped about week one preseason next year. Just wait till week two and you're going to lose all your hype. It's going to lose it all. I'm just going to be ready to go now. I'm ready to go. I've seen it. I'm ready to go.

[Hank]

Max, I got a question for you.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Hank]

Did Howie do it again?

[Big Cat]

I.

[Max]

Everyone, every trade that the Eagles make now is just how he, how he.

[Hank]

Did it again, you guys, I have two. How he did again? So the weekend, John.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So you trade for Mechi from Houston. I love Mechi.

[Coach O]

He.

[Hank]

He had a tough rookie season. I think he had leukemia and he was out for a while, but he's a good, good wide receiver. And he played with, with Devonte at Alabama, right?

[Coach O]

He did. He did.

[Hank]

So that's my one. Did how he do it again? And then the other is your safety. Makuba.

[Coach O]

Yeah. He looks like.

[Max]

He looks like a ball player.

[Hank]

He looks like how he might have done it again.

[Coach O]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ball hawk. Good for you.

[Max]

That's what we're seeing. He had a pick six. He had a fumble recovery. Ball hawk is what people are saying.

[Big Cat]

Okay. How he did it again.

[Max]

Yeah, how he did it again.

[Hank]

Howie.

[Big Cat]

Howie. And then we also had Arthur Smith getting very horny.

[Hank]

Oh, I didn't see that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the horniest play call of all time.

[Hank]

I missed that. I missed that.

[Big Cat]

I think it was happening during UFC 319. No big deal. We went.

[Hank]

Can we pull that up?

[Big Cat]

Mentioned that.

[Hank]

I would like to see it.

[Big Cat]

I'm treating like going to a UFC fight is like running a marathon. Like, we actually went.

[Hank]

We went for the whole thing. We saw most of the thing.

[Big Cat]

Most of the thing. No, the whole main card.

[Hank]

Whole main card.

[Memes]

Joe Missoula went for the whole thing.

[Big Cat]

He was there for the whole thing.

[Memes]

He was there. I think he might have been the first person in the building.

[Hank]

Ryan Rossilla was there for the whole thing. Multiple. Right. Everybody at UFC fights is a different iteration of Ryan Rossillo.

[Big Cat]

That was one of my biggest takeaways from the ufc, is that Versilo needs to get tats.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because he. We were just seeing. And I love Rossillo. Very good friend. We were seeing just, like, better models of Versilo.

[Hank]

They were everywhere. They were surrounded by.

[Big Cat]

It was T1000 Rusillo.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was just like sick arm tattoo. Like, oh, I wouldn't with that guy.

[Hank]

I even saw a couple Ryan Rosillas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

A couple female versions.

[Big Cat]

All he's got to do is get the tats because he's got everything else. Got the. He's got the build.

[Hank]

What a female version of.

[Big Cat]

Do you think. Do you think ufc, Actually, I think UFC might be pound for pound, the number one bald sport.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

There were so many bald guys.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Without question, the entire security staff was bald.

[Hank]

Everybody there that's bald could kick your ass.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're all bald.

[Hank]

I also think that the stage, like, 30 to 70.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The. Every. Every type of bald you could ever imagine it is at a UFC fight. They could all beat our ass.

[Hank]

I think that the stadium security, when there's UFC fight, they also amp it up to the next level, too. They get, like, a fresh shave going. They want to look their best in front of the UFC guys, like the UFC fans, because they might have to kick some ass, too.

[Big Cat]

I had a UFC security guard want to. Want to kick my ass.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Would have been able to kick my.

[Hank]

Big Cat went the wrong way twice. Everybody else went the right way. And. And Big Cat rejoined us, and the security guard said to me. He goes, you guys did the right thing. That guy did the wrong.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[Hank]

Bad guy.

[Big Cat]

It was a sliding metal gate.

[Coach O]

And.

[Big Cat]

And everyone walked five feet one way. I walked five feet the other way. There was two entrances. And he was so mad at me, I was like, dude, I'm sorry. And then I went and I did the right thing. And I was looking for approval, which probably is something I need to talk to my therapist about. I was like, did you see I did it. He's like, good job.

[Hank]

No, that's not what happened. Big Cat went the right way, and then he's like, where's the guy that told me I went the wrong way? I gotta find him. And then we all went to our seats, and Big Cat went on a mission to find the guy, and I did. And he goes, hey, did you see me? I just went around the correct way this time.

[Coach O]

And then.

[Big Cat]

And then the guy said, I don't know what you're talking about. And then my guy came up and goes, it was me.

[Coach O]

And he did.

[Hank]

So the UFC fight.

[Coach O]

There we go.

[Hank]

UFC fight was a great time.

[Big Cat]

Wait, look at Arthur Smith before we break down ufc. Look at this. Horny.

[Hank]

I think we just did break down ufc. Oh, yeah.

[Coach O]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

That's the G spot.

[Big Cat]

That's the finger.

[Hank]

He found the G spot.

[Big Cat]

He's got the finger. Yeah, yeah. UFC 319, United Center. First of all, electric crowd, great crowd. Had been six years since the UFC had come to Chicago. The place was packed. It was loud. As we saw some awesome, awesome knockouts we had back to back. I think Ariel Hawani tweeted, back to back, spinning back, fists. It was elbow, elbow, elbow, elbow. Knockouts. Those are the ninth and 10th ever in the UFC history.

[Hank]

And we got two on, and we.

[Big Cat]

Got them back to back.

[Hank]

That's incredible. That's like in the super bowl, where the kicker broke the longest distance record and then five seconds later. Got it, Rebro.

[Big Cat]

Yes. And one of them. I think it was the. I want to say, was it the Pradees one, or was it the second one? Max. Max. Having a good time. And he just kept on saying, is it over? Is. Is it over? As the guy was basically dead on the ground and the lights had come on, and I was like, max, it's over. He has not moved an inch. And Max, like, is it over? Is it over?

[Max]

It was Also the end of the round. So I thought maybe. Maybe the end of the round could have saved. Could have given him a little bit of time.

[Hank]

I like this guy Pradies, if that's how you pronounce his name. I don't know. The Brazilian guy.

[Big Cat]

He smoked cigarettes. Yes. Yeah.

[Hank]

Chain smokes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Awesome guy. That was cool. Max was having a great time. Spilled his beer all over the poor lady in front of us.

[Max]

I don't think I did that.

[Hank]

By the way, read him the riot act, and Max turtles up. Yes, ma'.

[Coach O]

Am.

[Hank]

Yes, ma'.

[Coach O]

Am.

[Big Cat]

What do you guys think Kamari Usman, who's UFC legend, was thinking? Because he was sitting next to me, and I think he was by himself, so I kind of had to talk to him a couple times. He probably hated us.

[Hank]

Well, you were asking for picks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, I was like, give me a pick. And then we went deep into the. To the DraftKings sportsbook. We did not find a pick. Yeah, he. He was not. I read that one wrong.

[Hank]

He seemed like a good guy. I'm sure he enjoyed the company.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just kept on turning to him whenever someone was, like, mounted. I was like, is he in trouble? He's like, oh, yeah.

[Hank]

I think he was probably like, this guy. This guy knows fist, but his buddy next to him that keeps just screaming, is that guy okay?

[Big Cat]

That guy okay? Is it over? Is it over? The lights were on. The. The. The guy had the belt on his waist, and. And. And the EMT were, like, stretching him off, and Max was like, he could get up.

[Hank]

I really enjoyed.

[Max]

It was the end of the round, in between rounds.

[Hank]

I enjoyed sitting near Max for the. For the fights, because, you know that we all know Hank is a UFC guy. He's a ufc, but Max might be even more of a UFC guy. The stuff that he was screaming at the fighters was so good. He was just like, fight. Fight him. Yeah, punch him.

[Big Cat]

Knock him out.

[Hank]

Punch that guy.

[Max]

I'm a big.

[Coach O]

Get him.

[Max]

Go get him.

[Memes]

I like being next to Usman just because all the fighters would walk up and then they would show him respect. And it kind of felt like they were showing us respect, even though they had no. It was. It was like a stolen valor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we were getting some respect.

[Memes]

We're one of these guys.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We got on the jumbotron shot, which was very awkward for us because the cameraman sat in front of us for about five minutes, establishing the shot. We were just all sitting there, just, like, stiff as a board, just being like, all right, we're ready to go.

[Hank]

And we just fought each other.

[Big Cat]

He kept on pointing to his camera like, hey, idiots, I know you want to look at the Jumbotron, because you can't conceptualize the fact that you're going to be up there and right here. And I was like, yeah, you're right, Hank.

[Hank]

Watching it back on repeat, I. It did look like I choked you a little excessively hard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's hard to.

[Memes]

Ufc, that's the fight game.

[Hank]

Yeah, I really. I really rung your neck out a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Should we talk about the.

[Coach O]

The.

[Big Cat]

The championship match, the main event? I guess our guy Drickus versus Hamzat. It sucked. It sucked. It sucked to watch. I know that there will be a lot of UFC fans, and we are definitely in the casual category, so we're not going to pretend we're something else. A lot of UFC fans are like, hey, that was a clinical domination. And he was dominant. Yeah, Hamza was dominant. Like, he drink has had no chance. I just think that if you take someone down for 25 minutes and wrestle them, you should have to submit them. Or at least my dumb rule.

[Hank]

Or at least try to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he only had to get zero submission attempt.

[Hank]

Didn't really try. I think he ended up landing like 95% of his punches, which is crazy, but they were all just like 1 inch taps. So it's like annoying little punch.

[Big Cat]

That. That was the moment. So this is actually. You can come at us for being USC casuals. Usman, who was sitting next to us, he. What he kept on telling me was, I was like, do these little punches hurt at all? And he's like, no, he's just trying to wear him down. If he was trying to hurt him, he would be going, elbows.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he's like, elbows would end this fight. He should be going, elbows.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, the only thing that looked like it hurt was when he kept kneeing Dricus right in the ass.

[Big Cat]

Right in the ass.

[Memes]

Repeated for like 20 minutes straight.

[Hank]

It was like, that fight must have sucked for Dricus.

[Coach O]

That.

[Hank]

That was no fun. He got taken down the entire time. And just having a dude knee your 25 minutes.

[Big Cat]

And Dris didn't have a very good game plan. It felt like, because, like, how do you. You know he's gonna try to take you down? How do you not have a plan for that? It was. The round would start, Triggers would throw one or two punches, Hamza would take him down, and then he would lay on him for the next four and a half minutes.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And while we all were like, well, this is boring. Is he gonna get choked out? Nope. He's never even close to getting choked. I don't. There wasn't a moment where I was like, oh, here comes the tap out from Dricus. No, it was just. Let's just lay on him. And he is dominant about it. Like, this is what he does.

[Hank]

Yeah. It's the style.

[Big Cat]

Like Khabib Jim. They just fucking lay on people and just beat them to death. In terms of strength in wrestling, he's a beast.

[Memes]

I don't let him throw punches till they're 15.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's a beast, and he's awesome at what he does, and it's not fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

Well, I was reading about it more because I am interested in it, and, like, I know that I am coming at from someone who doesn't fully understand the sport, so I wanted to try to, like, research more. And people were saying that the. In America, when you wrestle in college wrestling, you're wrestling for points. So you're wrestling to try to make moves to gain points.

[Coach O]

Right.

[Big Cat]

In Russia, they don't have that. They're wrestling simply to just dominate the person.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And just. Just control their body for as long as possible until they're out.

[Hank]

And it's a style that doesn't really have a great counter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like, if you're dominant at that style of fighting, there's not a lot that the other guy can do about it.

[Big Cat]

And I don't.

[Hank]

He also fights in that style. The only. The only way he could have possibly combated that if. If he bit him, if biting was allowed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Then that would have been nuts. That would have been a good way to stop.

[Big Cat]

And I don't blame Hamza at all, because he, like, he won the fight. He was. His title fight. He won the fight fair and square. It's more like, do. Does the ufc. And maybe, you know, when we talk to a UFC expert next, like, do they need to make a rule where you can't be on the ground for four and a half minutes every single round? Is there, you know, or, like, you have to. I. I threw out the dumb rule that people didn't like that if you. If you wrestle someone for 25 minutes, you have to submit them. Like, that's. Or you. Because Dricus, in a weird way, was impressive that he never got submitted.

[Hank]

So Dricus actually almost won the fight at the very end when he got behind him for the first time in the entire fight, tried to choke him out, and it wasn't far away from Happening like that would have been the craziest finish of that fight, but there was. There was nothing fun, nothing entertaining. There's some. There are competitors and there's entertainers. Big cat. I always say that I'd like a little bit of showmanship in my UFC door.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Shador should fight ufc.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The rest of the car was incredible, though, so that. That wasn't. It was just more that. I was very hyped up for this main event. Shane and Memes, you guys were sitting up top. Give us your thoughts.

[Zach]

United center was absolutely awesome. Those guys, I just want to say it, win or lose, the fight, just going in there being like, all right, I'm going to battle with this other dude in this arena tonight and just made the best man win. I thought. I did think it was awesome. Back to back, two different fighters. When they got their speech with Joe Rogan, they instantly were just, like, trying to put their boys on. Like, Danny, you got to get my man into the ufc. I love seeing that. Yeah, it was an unbelievable day for the boys.

[Big Cat]

What about you, Memes? You guys went early.

[Zach]

I showed up two fights before the main card.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that's still early.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's still early. I thought it was really good. I liked all the fights, even the last one. I know. I know people didn't like it, but.

[Hank]

You, like, you enjoyed that.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Seeing guys just kind of.

[Zach]

Just one man just completely imposing his.

[Big Cat]

Will there, he was just.

[Zach]

He's just an absolute killer.

[Big Cat]

That. That part I kind of weirdly agree with. As boring as it was, there is something like. It was something stunning about how much he ragdolled trick us.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cuz you.

[Zach]

You knew he was gonna dive at him immediately. Just get him down to the ground. And, like, the guy sitting next to me was like, all right, let's see how long it takes before he. He goes. Goes on him. And it was 20 seconds every single time.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was almost like watching a team, like, just run the ball down someone's throat over and over and over, and you're like, this is boring, but holy. This is also impressive because they cannot stop it.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I respect the hell out of him. Yeah, he's great at what he does. I don't necessarily like watching it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then the post. The post fight wasn't fun.

[Big Cat]

What happened? We got out.

[Coach O]

We?

[Zach]

Me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we. We bolted. We made a good. We actually made an incredible exit, except for the fact that we completely forgot where I parked. So we were just wandering the parking lot for a while.

[Hank]

We left before they made the final announcement.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Won the fight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So we were.

[Coach O]

We.

[Hank]

We didn't know.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So we still don't know.

[Hank]

There was no way to know who won that fight.

[Big Cat]

We probably. Yeah, Trickus could have won.

[Hank]

The one thing that I did hear from a lot of the UFC fighters that were around us in the crowd, they got very mad when Dricus started to use his.

[Coach O]

On.

[Hank]

On. Yeah, you can't links.

[Big Cat]

You can't. You can't toe grab.

[Hank]

You can't gain leverage using your fingers or your toes. And they got pissed about.

[Big Cat]

They were screaming, cage at them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so what happened after.

[Zach]

So we got.

[Coach O]

We.

[Zach]

After the fights, we got out. We're like, all right. It's like not that far of a walk to the office. So we're like, we'll just. We'll either two man or four man this walk. Me and Meme start heading to the office. It's a little bit. A little bit cloudy, like overcast, but we should be good. There's some heat lightning, but nothing crazy. We're getting out with the crowd, and then in the, like, blink of an eye, the most rain you ever seen started to come down. So much rain, and, like, we didn't even have an option to, like, maybe hit, like, an underpass or, like, call for a car. As soon as it started, we were just soaked enough to where it didn't matter anymore. We were just 100%.

[Big Cat]

So. So you guys just walked at a normal pace.

[Zach]

We just embraced it, shared some laughs, and got back.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[Memes]

I thought I was going to die at the office. I was at the office waiting for my Uber. Like Zach said, it was raining so hard that you could barely see outside. So I was inside the first door, looking out, trying to see if my Uber was coming down the street. And a black shadowy figure just walked up, was walking up to the office, like, slow. And I was like, this is Someone. It was 11 o' clock on Saturday night. I was not expecting them to be coming back. And I was like, oh, my God, this person is coming to rob the office. I'm about to die. And then Memes got up to the door and I saw his face.

[Coach O]

But the.

[Big Cat]

The walk, they both do walk wasn't.

[Memes]

Menacing and it wasn't running. It was like walking through the rain. Like, who is this shadowy figure walking through the rain to our office at 11 o' clock on Saturday night? This is bad. And then it was just. It was mean.

[Hank]

How does that happen with heat lightning? Because there was lightning every two Seconds, but no thunder. How is that possible?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

It's like pooping without peeing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It was so much rain.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was hard to drive how much rain it was.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Thanks. Thanks to Danny for the seats.

[Coach O]

We were.

[Big Cat]

We were literally standing right next to the fighters as they warmed, like, as they got ready. It's almost. Almost dapped up Hamzat. So.

[Hank]

So pretty close.

[Big Cat]

He went to dap up who's. Mine. I put my hand out there being like, me, too.

[Hank]

Oh. Dricus winked at Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Triggers did wink at Hank. That was so sick.

[Hank]

Did you wink back?

[Memes]

No, I. I kind of did the turnaround. It was like. It was a surreal moment where I was like, was that. Was he looking at me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he was. He was. He gave you a little wink.

[Memes]

That's just UFC respect.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Great time, though. If you've never been to UFC live event, it is, like, top notch because just the crowd gets so amped up. Crowd boos whenever there's, like, not enough action. Those knockouts were awesome.

[Hank]

That's the one thing we could have done differently during this fight. We could have booed harder.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

If the. I feel like when the fans boo really, really loud, that's when the refs, like, okay, stand up.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, I went to Savannah Bananas. I did the double header. Bananas were.

[Coach O]

Were cool.

[Big Cat]

I like. I don't. I don't. I know the people who don't like the bananas. I took my son. He had a great time. The bananas were cool. The guys are awesome. Like, we got. We got to go in the locker room, meet all the guys. They're just regular dudes. A lot of stoolies. Great guys, great guys. Made me think, like, I was what I was seeing, because they've all played in, like, college and stuff.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max is never going to do the Dingers only.

[Hank]

Never.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Max]

No comment.

[Big Cat]

You're just never going to do it.

[Coach O]

I don't.

[Max]

No. No comment.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

I don't know what you want me to say here.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what you're gonna. I mean, it's crazy. You've not done it.

[Hank]

It's disgusting. Max.

[Big Cat]

The awl should be pissed.

[Max]

The Dingers only challenge has been completed.

[Coach O]

What?

[Max]

You were there.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's right.

[Hank]

We actually did it earlier today, this morning, and it has been fun.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be fun.

[Max]

And guess what? You guys are still gonna wait.

[Coach O]

It's not.

[Max]

It's not edited. It's not gonna be edited this week. I don't know if it'll be edited next week.

[Hank]

Max, it was very fun.

[Max]

So keep getting angry about it.

[Hank]

Max has it. He's never gonna.

[Max]

I'm just gonna hold it against you.

[Big Cat]

But it has been complete.

[Hank]

It was very, very fun.

[Big Cat]

Very, very fun. Shout out to Savannah Bananas. Those guys are the best.

[Hank]

We did it against the Savannah Bananas.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes.

[Max]

No, really.

[Big Cat]

We found a different college team in town. All right. Should we talk national sports podcasts? I have two things for National Sports Podcast. 1. Scotty Scheffler is incredible. That was an incredible comeback, Chip. His stats are. He is 148 starts in the PGA Tour. He has 74 top tens. That's exactly half. Half the time he finishes top 10. He has won what is his 14th win in 33 starts. So including three, that's three majors, six signature events, two playoff events, one gold medal, two regular events, 14 wins and 33 starts. It's crazy.

[Hank]

Pretty incredible. Feel bad for Robert McIntyre, but it was Scotty.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[Hank]

We all know after like the second or third hole today, I think everyone had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen. And then sky did. Bennett gets another trophy for his trophy case.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Hank]

Which is cool. And then what happens next week? Where do we go from here?

[Big Cat]

Top 30. Oh, this was the start of the playoff.

[Memes]

Last week was the start of playoffs. This was round two. Now it's down to the top 30. But there's no. In years, Pratt, that years past is when they would do the. Like Scotty would start minus 10 and it would be, you know, then second place, minus 8 and so on so forth this year, no strokes.

[Big Cat]

So what is it now?

[Memes]

Just straight up. Straight up one tournament.

[Big Cat]

So next weekend. Yeah. Is the finals.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So Scotty's gonna win that.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Otherwise, he's got nothing.

[Memes]

So pretty, pretty solid year.

[Big Cat]

No, it's nothing. I care about the I'm a playoffs only guy in the PGA Tour.

[Hank]

I'm a road to Dubai guy. You know that that's coming. Is it the most important golf event of the year? What if Tommy Fleetwood won the whole thing this year?

[Big Cat]

I.

[Max]

That's what I just got. I got an email from a guy today saying bet Tommy Fleetwood to win the FedEx Cup.

[Hank]

That would be wild. Wouldn't it?

[Big Cat]

Have to do it.

[Max]

I've never. It was a bizarre email.

[Hank]

Emailed you and said, yeah.

[Coach O]

What.

[Big Cat]

How old is this guy? All right. This is Rob with two Bs. I'm not gonna say his last name. Tommy will win this week and win the Fedex Cup. Take it. This is not AI Hank. I think we have to bet it.

[Hank]

I think we got Rob with 2B.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think I. Shit.

[Max]

I've never gotten an email pick before, but. But we got. I got this pick today because I.

[Hank]

Was thinking what would be the most hilarious outcome to this? It would definitely be Tommy Fleetwood winning this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then also Phil Mickelson's take continues to age like fine wine.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Hank]

It's so win this year.

[Big Cat]

He's won everything.

[Hank]

What is it? What are Tommy Fleetwood's odds?

[Big Cat]

All right, we're looking it up right now. I'm going to bet it right now because I think we have.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm on it.

[Big Cat]

Rob with two Bs. We got to do it. All right. Tommy Fleetwood. Where the hell is the golf draft sports book when he. When he chokes? We all have no one to blame but ourselves. We can all agree with that. We're not even going to blame. Yeah.

[Max]

We can't blob Rob. We can't blame Rob.

[Coach O]

Oh, I'm.

[Hank]

No, I'm going to blame Rob.

[Max]

No, we can't. We can't blame Rob with two Bs.

[Big Cat]

16 to 1 Tommy Fleetwood.

[Hank]

His name literally means steel. This is not going to be a good bet.

[Big Cat]

Nope. And it's in. 16 to 1 Tommy Fleetwood to win the FedEx Cup. Go be great, Tommy Fleetwood. This would be an all timer.

[Hank]

I was about to say. I believe in you, Tommy. I do not.

[Big Cat]

I believe in Rob more than Tommy.

[Hank]

I do not believe in Tommy.

[Big Cat]

If Rob was out there playing, I would be like, we're going to win this.

[Hank]

This is going to be something that. It's going to be a good bet because he's going to get down to like plus 300 at some point. Plus 200 will be like, great bet. And then he's going to lose.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then my other national sports podcast topic was Rob Manfred saying today that the expansion of MLB is on the horizon and they might realign the leagues.

[Coach O]

Why?

[Big Cat]

I think that he was saying that it's for putting like the teams closer together for wear and tear. I don't know.

[Hank]

Shut the fuck up. Get the fuck out of my clubhouse. Rob.

[Big Cat]

I actually think they should do the opposite. They should get rid of interleague play or just Italy play was like. Was awesome when it started, but now it's everyone plays everyone.

[Hank]

One series. Dial it back, but don't get rid of it.

[Memes]

I liked when they did like two or three weekends.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was like. It was like a Three week stretch now. It's just random and it doesn't make, you know, it doesn't feel as special at all. Yeah.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So he. Would he get rid of the National League and the American League?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if he would get rid of the National League and American, but I think you would just try to group teams closer together.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

They should make, they should like the.

[Big Cat]

You know, the, the A's being in the AL and the Giants being in the nl. Flip it so that they play more. I would assume so.

[Hank]

He might add some teams might switch.

[Big Cat]

I guess they play the City Series. So that doesn't make sense. But like the Angels and the Dodgers or the Angels and the Padres.

[Hank]

So one of those two teams would switch.

[Big Cat]

Right. And maybe the Mets and Yankees would be in the same division. Which. That, that would. I feel like that would be a mistake. Yeah, I think that would be a mistake. But they're trying to do everything to.

[Max]

He was saying it was for like TV deals because they want to get more like West Coast TV games that make sense. So it's not like A's Red Sox playing at 10 o' clock at night, east coast time. It would be like, like age.

[Big Cat]

So it's all. Yeah, the, the NBA is actually doing the reverse. You see that they're doing a, like coast to coast where they're going to push back the west coast games to 11pm Eastern time.

[Hank]

I, I don't hate it for fans of the team that like a lot of times, if you're a Lakers fan or if you're a fan of any team on the west coast, you have to start watching the games while you're at work.

[Big Cat]

When they're playing on the East Coast.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. I don't, I don't necessarily love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But yeah, he's just trying to get more ratings. I get it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. We have anything else before we do? Who's back of the week?

[Hank]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, go ahead. There's realignment talk. More. Not realignment, but expanded playoff talk in college football.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

So the Big Ten is having conversations. It's. They're. Per Pete Thamel, the idea is in very early stages. The Big Ten wants to keep the conference races meaningful and make November regular season football meaningful across the leagues. So they're thinking about expanding to 24 or 28 teams for the College Football Playoff.

[Big Cat]

Don't want it.

[Hank]

That's a lot of teams to make.

[Big Cat]

Don't want it. Don't.

[Hank]

That's a lot. They kind of already have a regular Season.

[Coach O]

The.

[Hank]

The problem, which is a great, big triple elimination playoff.

[Coach O]

Right.

[Big Cat]

I think the problem they're having is they. They don't want to give up the conference championship games, but they probably kind of have to.

[Hank]

I think we're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna get rid of conference.

[Big Cat]

Championship, but I don't want this. I. I was. I was fine with 12. I do think there's, you know, seasons when you can have those teams from that 6 to 8 range where, like, hey, they're peaking at the right time, and this could be interesting. 24.

[Hank]

No, thank you. I think what we learned from last year's College Football Playoff is that the worst seated teams are very. It's very unlikely that they're going to beat the best.

[Big Cat]

No, no. Yeah. I mean, it's. And they did change the seating, so it makes sense this year, but, yeah, there's. There's always been an argument to be had that, like, you know, the Ohio State last year, they wouldn't have been in the College Football Playoff. You're letting them get another crack at it, which I'm okay with, but I just don't. I don't. I. 24 is too many.

[Hank]

Yeah. I think 12 is fine. Yeah. They wouldn't have been in the 14 playoff.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

But there's. There's 12 good teams in this country.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there are.

[Hank]

Let them go for it.

[Big Cat]

Find those 12 good teams. Yeah, this would. This would suck. I disavow Big Ten guy. I disavow Big Ten. Don't do this.

[Hank]

It also felt like a trial balloon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, of course.

[Hank]

Like, they. They told Pete, hey, run with this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And just say that. We're having conversations about it. See what the general. See which way the winds just keep pushing and pushing.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're going to keep pushing and pushing. Is Zach Wheeler done for the year?

[Coach O]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

What Twitter doctors.

[Max]

I saw Twitter doctor that says yes, but I don't know.

[Coach O]

Blood.

[Max]

I don't. Blood clot. Blood clot sounds bad.

[Hank]

It is bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds bad.

[Max]

That sounds like something that really bad in his shoulder.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you need your shoulder and everyone for pitching.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Max]

No, I think. I think he's probably done for the year, which is. Which means that the Phillies are probably done.

[Hank]

Hank hates that. I do.

[Big Cat]

Bruce did finally lose.

[Hank]

They did.

[Big Cat]

It's good.

[Hank]

Barely.

[Big Cat]

I was kind of. I'm happy. The brewers lost because the Cubs also won. And for the first time in, like, what feels like a month, the Cubs actually gained a game. I did kind of want them to win like finally I wanted. There was a game I was rooting for the brewers to win because I wanted the Cubs to beat him on Monday and have the Cubs bookend the winning streak because the last time they had lost before today was the Cubs. And then we play them five games. But yeah, Bruce, finally. I mean, it was incredible. They just won every game. Just they were down 8 to 1 on Friday and then you blinked it, it was 9 to 8.

[Hank]

And then on Saturday, taking it to extras, the brewers, they're fun to watch, man. I like the Brewers.

[Big Cat]

The brewers, they never lose, but they did lose today. Okay, should we do who's back of the Week and then we'll get to our Mount Rushmore. Then we have Coach O, which was an awesome, awesome interview. Before we get to are who's Back of the Week? Game Time there's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Hank, look up the Cubs. Brewers are playing five games this week. Five games Double header on Monday. Lucky for me, I always use Game Time, the official ticketing partner Barstool sports Game Time makes getting tickets faster and easier. Price on the app actually go down the closer it gets to showtime. Looking at tickets for Brewers Cubs this.

[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

Who's back of the week is England.

[Hank]

Oh, all right.

[Memes]

The Premier Premier League is back.

[Hank]

The Premier League.

[Memes]

So for the blokes, football's back as well. Good for them a little earlier than us.

[Big Cat]

Premier League prediction.

[Memes]

Tottenham.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Coach O]

No.

[Big Cat]

Really? Yeah.

[Coach O]

It's their year.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay. Is that just the first team that came to your mind?

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay. Is there a second team that comes to your mind?

[Memes]

Man City.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That feels like maybe a safer bet.

[Hank]

Is Man City going to get penalized for what?

[Big Cat]

Saudis.

[Hank]

They had some. Some big time salary infringements. That it was almost to the point where they might get like pushed down to the championship. Probably not relegated.

[Big Cat]

Probably not. Liverpool is the favorite. Tottenham. Do we see Tottenham?

[Hank]

Where's Tot? Tottenham.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah. Six favorites. Okay, what part.

[Hank]

What part of London is Liverpool in?

[Memes]

Liverpool.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what part of London?

[Memes]

South.

[Coach O]

Yeah, yeah, you got it.

[Hank]

Actual south.

[Coach O]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

What about. What about Man City?

[Memes]

Center.

[Big Cat]

Center.

[Hank]

What about.

[Big Cat]

You're right.

[Hank]

Nottingham Forest.

[Memes]

That's in. Not London.

[Hank]

Okay, that. Yeah, that one.

[Big Cat]

Manchester City and Liverpool are in London.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Memes]

You guys, these are these trick questions.

[Hank]

No, you got the one right. We gave you one. That was a trick that you got right. The other are big time. Yeah, Big time Londoners.

[Memes]

Also the.

[Hank]

It's not an international sports podcast.

[Memes]

The British ambassador.

[Big Cat]

What do you think Manchester stands for?

[Memes]

It's a city.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

No, Man City is the name of the team.

[Memes]

Yeah, Manchester City.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Memes]

Manchester, England in London.

[Big Cat]

Whatever.

[Memes]

You know what I meant.

[Hank]

I'm not sure that I do.

[Big Cat]

I don't think I.

[Memes]

Does London have any teams?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, London has a lot of teams. Like Man United.

[Hank]

They've got Fulham. Wrexham is in London.

[Coach O]

No.

[Big Cat]

Arsenal and Tottenham. Exactly.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There we go. You got it.

[Memes]

Also, the British ambassador of the US Is pushing for a Super bowl in London.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I am down for you.

[Coach O]

You.

[Hank]

You're a piece of.

[Big Cat]

You're a piece of.

[Hank]

He fought a war back in 1776 to. To keep our football American.

[Big Cat]

Suck our dicks from the back.

[Memes]

What's the difference between London Vegas vacation?

[Coach O]

This is.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. This is all right.

[Coach O]

This.

[Big Cat]

Hank. Golf vacation.

[Coach O]

One.

[Memes]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

Two, this is Hank being a fucking anti pussy liberal fuck because he wants. He wants the super bowl to happen. Like six hours earlier. So it's a little less football.

[Hank]

Is that true?

[Memes]

No, I just think London would be a cool city for that.

[Big Cat]

Dude, if they put this in London.

[Memes]

Better than San Francisco.

[Max]

What he's saying about us going. Which would be fun. It would be fun if we went to London.

[Hank]

Not really. I'd like to stay in America for I wonder.

[Memes]

America, dude, great content.

[Hank]

It's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Our fucking Super Bowl. The game. What they play the game at fucking you. You want to watch super bowl at noon?

[Max]

I'm just saying.

[Coach O]

At noon.

[Max]

I understand what Hank is saying in the, In a travel aspect. He's being selfish on trip. He's being personally for.

[Big Cat]

Well, guess what? We got a.

[Coach O]

For the good of America.

[Big Cat]

Millions of awls who listen to this that aren't going to go to London. So we can't be like, oh, we want it because. No, we gotta speak for the.

[Hank]

No, I, I, I don't right now. Given that I do not want to go to London.

[Memes]

Don't go to the super bowl every year either.

[Hank]

Yeah, but I don't want small group.

[Memes]

Of fans of the team that are.

[Hank]

I don't even want to go to London.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't want to go to London.

[Hank]

Listen, late January, early February, that's. It's a very important time for America.

[Big Cat]

Dude, that. What, what are you doing right now? I'm disgusted.

[Hank]

How about the Pro Bowl?

[Big Cat]

I'm disgusted.

[Coach O]

Cool. Sorry.

[Big Cat]

It'd be.

[Memes]

I think it'd be a cool event. Fun week.

[Big Cat]

You can't give up our Super Bowl. It's our crowning achievement as a society. We're.

[Memes]

We're going to have a team there.

[Big Cat]

Like, we don't have much left in this, in this world, in this country, everyone's doom and gloom. It's the Super Bowl. That's ours.

[Memes]

Don't you want football to overtake soccer as the biggest sport in the world?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't give a fuck. I honestly don't care if other countries watch football or not. Like, this whole, like, global expansion of football. Do not care. I watch football with my friends in America. I don't give a fuck what they watch over there.

[Memes]

The bigger football gets, the bigger this podcast gets, and that's what I want.

[Hank]

No, you're fine. You want to. You want a golf vacation in England?

[Big Cat]

No, I will say, shout out our AWS across the country.

[Max]

That was a good point. That was a good point for Hank.

[Big Cat]

All right, fine.

[Hank]

I do like the English.

[Big Cat]

Don't give it. Don't give up our Super I feel.

[Hank]

Like English awl is like, do you really want the Super Bowl? Is that something that you want over there?

[Big Cat]

My answer is. Actually, now I'm going to correct my answer. I like everyone who watches football right now. I don't need any new fans. So if you watch it now in London and you're an awl, you're cool. I fuck with you. No new fans.

[Max]

I wouldn't hate a couple new ones. Why would.

[Big Cat]

Are they cool?

[Max]

Yeah, they're for sure.

[Memes]

They've seen some exposure to the sport. Like imagine London.

[Hank]

Who's they get?

[Memes]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

They get the Jaguars and Panthers.

[Memes]

Jaguars, Panthers.

[Big Cat]

That's what they get.

[Hank]

They get to see.

[Coach O]

How.

[Big Cat]

Here's, here's the. Here's the deal. Put a team in London, that's fine. They're going to do it eventually. Just fucking get over with. When they win a Super bowl, then maybe you win one to get one.

[Hank]

I don't like it. I don't like. I don't like the idea of a Super bowl going over.

[Big Cat]

Dude, think about, like, the turf's going to be fucked up. Already done that.

[Hank]

It's going to be raining. You know it's going to be raining.

[Big Cat]

Going to be raining.

[Memes]

They have domes, don't they?

[Hank]

Yeah, but you're going to be out in the rain the entire time.

[Max]

I went to a game in London. Eagles, Jags. It was great.

[Big Cat]

What stadium? Manchester City?

[Max]

Wembley.

[Hank]

Oh, that's cool.

[Max]

It was fun. The, the, the Brits loved their football. They got so super excited. There was a million different jerseys. A million different jerseys.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. The super bowl is going to be filled with Jaguars fans.

[Big Cat]

You can't. It was, it.

[Max]

It was not just Jaguars fans. It was like the most random teams. And then you would ask them, why are you fans of that? And they're like, I don't know.

[Big Cat]

And then think about, think about this. It's the super bowl that's ours.

[Memes]

It's a neutral site event.

[Hank]

It's not neutral. That's not neutral at all.

[Big Cat]

It's got to be here. It has to be. It's the Super Bowl.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Let's bring it to the world.

[Hank]

Oh, hey, then you're going to get like all the travel and weird shit and time zones and it's going to be a big pain in the ass.

[Big Cat]

And again, if they try to start the super bowl at noon, I'm going to fucking riot. That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Memes]

What if the Bears were in it? You could go.

[Big Cat]

Now you're just speaking crazier.

[Coach O]

If we were to do Caleb look.

[Max]

Good, what time would we have to put this?

[Big Cat]

Six out of ten. He was six out of ten. Yeah, Max, think about that.

[Max]

Thinking what? I think we would have to.

[Hank]

Don't be.

[Memes]

Don't be selfish.

[Big Cat]

You're.

[Memes]

You guys are thinking about yourselves.

[Big Cat]

I'm thinking about the sport.

[Coach O]

All right. What.

[Big Cat]

What. What courses would you play?

[Memes]

I don't even know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, come on. Come on. What courses would you play? Give them to us.

[Memes]

I don't know what courses are near London. I clearly don't know anything about London. The geography and what's near or not the old course. Let's go to the old course.

[Hank]

Would you even be able to bet on the super bowl over there?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they have betting shops.

[Hank]

Yeah, but what about. What about DraftKings?

[Coach O]

What?

[Big Cat]

Max. Max has an interactive time zone map and it's gonna break his brain.

[Hank]

I think it's six hours.

[Max]

I'm trying to think of, like, what.

[Big Cat]

If we wanted to get the show.

[Max]

Out by like, 5, 5am Eastern?

[Hank]

It would have to come out at 11, 11pm I think you'd have so many time.

[Max]

So we would just have to record the show super early.

[Memes]

It'd be the same. No, no, they'd probably put.

[Big Cat]

That's my. Been my point, Max. They'd probably play the super bowl at like 6pm London time, which would be like noon, which would be crazy about.

[Memes]

9Pm you think they play it that late? I don't know. I don't know how London rolls. 8pm Compromise.

[Zach]

We're not a time zone.

[Big Cat]

We're not. We never have been a time zone podcast.

[Hank]

I don't like it. I don't like the idea one bit.

[Big Cat]

I don't either.

[Hank]

We have plenty of.

[Coach O]

Wait.

[Big Cat]

I wanna wait. Put your mic on. I gotta hear the memes. Memes. And Max, we recorded at one o'.

[Memes]

Clock in the afternoon. You'd have more time to do the podcast.

[Big Cat]

Keep the. Keep the mics on and do your conversation. I want to see. You were just about to say.

[Coach O]

You.

[Big Cat]

You're talking to him like it's four, but we're all four here.

[Zach]

So the time of the super bowl that it normally is, it'll just be on London time. So the time here.

[Max]

Oh, it wouldn't catch, Right?

[Zach]

No, time here will be the same.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying, Max.

[Zach]

So you'll have the same amount of time that you normally have.

[Big Cat]

Super Bowl. You'd have more time.

[Coach O]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

The super bowl is played at 6pm here, right?

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They would play it at 6pm in London, which would mean it's noon here.

[Max]

So be over early here. So we have so much time to get.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Max is on my side. Max is on my.

[Memes]

Let's go to London.

[Big Cat]

How is it?

[Max]

But, like, what about, like, the rest of the week? Does that mean that, like, we would. We would have to record at noon? Yeah, like noon, London time. This is just a complete personal problem.

[Big Cat]

No, they're ahead of us, dude.

[Max]

Do not care at all.

[Big Cat]

Do you realize they're ahead of us? So if we record.

[Memes]

If we recorded, it's 24 hours in every day.

[Big Cat]

10:00Pm London, no matter where you are. It'd be 4:00 clock back here. What don't you understand about this?

[Zach]

Still come out the next day.

[Max]

I don't know.

[Hank]

We're telling you, you would have more time to put the podcast.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

You have the same amount of time. It would come out at the same time.

[Hank]

Yes. They're five hours.

[Big Cat]

You're pretending like we're going to Hawaii. If we were in Hawaii and we tried to record at midnight, it would already be too late for it to come out on time.

[Max]

Got it. It got it, got it.

[Big Cat]

The super bowl is the other way.

[Zach]

The super bowl is on Sunday. The podcast comes out on Monday, but.

[Big Cat]

We'Re going the other way. So if we recorded at night, it's actually still middle of the afternoon here, so we're good. What if a team. What if a team that made the Super Bowl.

[Memes]

All right, so London.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[Hank]

What if they didn't have their passports and they couldn't go?

[Max]

They have a Philly bar in London. It's sick.

[Hank]

Hard rock.

[Max]

It's called, like, pass. I think it's called Passion.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. That was one of the dumbest missed if. Max. We almost lost Max there to a ti. He almost went into, like, a black hole.

[Max]

No, it was going to be all I was thinking about the entire time.

[Big Cat]

Oh, now I kind of want to go just see Max deal with the time zone.

[Hank]

That's a terrible idea. We have lots of good stadiums right here in America.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm staying strong with you. I agree, pfc. We should just send Max there to just.

[Hank]

Just be a fan. Ambass ambassador Max.

[Big Cat]

No, no. Just. Just have him sit in a hotel room and have to upload the podcast. We'll. We'll record it from here and then we'll send it to him and be like, get it out on time.

[Hank]

You know, we'll have to.

[Max]

I would never be able to figure it out.

[Hank]

The three weeks leading up to the super bowl, we'd have to, we'd have to do this podcast on London time here.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

So that Max could prepare for it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. When would we go? We'd have to decide as a team. Do we go right before. Do we go a week early to get acclimated?

[Memes]

Yeah, definitely.

[Coach O]

Fucking you.

[Big Cat]

I want a list of your top three courses you want to play.

[Coach O]

All right.

[Big Cat]

At least be transparent.

[Hank]

You know, none of them are in London. Yeah, they're all Scotland.

[Coach O]

They're.

[Hank]

They're all.

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Coach O]

That's.

[Memes]

Listen, you guys have this idea that all I think about is golf. And this one was not one of those situations. It's just mostly what I think about.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good. Who's back?

[Hank]

Be driving on the wrong side of the road.

[Big Cat]

Georgia football would have Matthew Rodrick.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

People forget killed Kai woman. All right, your who's back. Pft.

[Hank]

My who's back of the week is the NCAA because they, they took their sweet time and they finally released the list of punishments that they're going to do for the University of Michigan because of the alleged cheating scandal with Connor Stallions. So they're going to be fined $50,000. They're going to be fined a 10% fine on the entire football program's budget. It a 10 fine on Michigan's 2025 and 2026 scholarships and a fine matching the projected loss of the postseason revenue for 2025, 2026, which is going to be a significant amount of money, I think. And then they hit Connor Stallions with an eight year show cause penalty. They hit Jim harbaugh with a 10 year show cause penalty, meaning he's not going to be eligible to coach in college football pretty much for the rest of his life. They're just saying, okay, yeah, you're not, you're not going to be a college coach anymore. They said that Harbaugh never turned over any emails or text messages. Then he refused to be interviewed by the NCAA enforcement staff.

[Big Cat]

He a rat.

[Hank]

So they didn't have a full record of all the interactions or all the transgressions that they had. And then Connor Stallions destroyed his iPhone and threw it into a pond, which is great operational security on Conor Stallion's part. And then he also was not cooperating fully with the board. So they just said, okay, we're going to throw as much as we can at him. Harbaugh or one of his staff members called the University of Michigan's own compliance office scum and the enemy, which I love, love That's. It's Toby from the office.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like the way Michael Scott thought about Toby was how Harbaugh thought about his own compliance office. This whole thing. And having watched the Connor Stallions documentary recently just reinforced me where I'm so glad that this man became a football fan and did not get into politics, did not get in. Into any social movement. Manifest his brain. I'm so thankful every single day that he just thought nothing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But football.

[Big Cat]

And the only real punishment was Sean Moore got suspended for a game.

[Hank]

Yeah. So one additional game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Michigan self imposed a two game ban which start head coach.

[Big Cat]

Which. Which doesn't start till week three against Central Michigan.

[Hank]

Right. So weeks one and two they have New Mexico and Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And. And they did not want their head coach to be absent for the Oklahoma game.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

So they said we'll take week three and four instead. That's Central Michigan and Nebraska. Nebraska. Which is. It's very disrespectful to Nebraska that they were like, okay, we'll rather have that one. But I mean it's Oklahoma.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You gotta have your coach for Oklahoma. So really all the Ohio State fans are upset that the NCAA didn't really do anything. I think what Ohio State wanted was to have their championship vacated. I think in their wild or at.

[Big Cat]

Least get gold pants for those years.

[Hank]

That's what, that's what Buckeyes fans wanted. It's like it's. They wanted the championship expunged like Louisville, but instead they just kind of slapped him with financial penalties and suspended a bunch of coaches that won't be coaching there anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But Connor Stallions, I'd say it worked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He got him back to the promise.

[Hank]

I'd say mission accomplished by Connor Stallions at a great.

[Big Cat]

I'd agree. Yeah. The whole thing was like, okay, so. Oh, so the New Mexico game now.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ohio State fans are mad. In the history of college football, I would say Michigan probably wasn't the first team that cheated in any way. They want a title. You can't. This is why I hated the Louisville ruling. You can't just pretend something didn't happen. You could, if you're Ohio State fan, you could basically take this whole ruling and put an asterisk next to him forever. Which that's totally fan fair to do in fandom. But you can't be like, oh yeah, there was no national champion that year. We're vacating it. It's like we watched it.

[Hank]

It happened, it happened. And then after they got caught and Connor Stallions was Kicked off the team and Harbaugh was. They kept winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So if you're going to cheat, you got to be the best at cheating. And Michigan, I think, was probably the best.

[Big Cat]

Aliens was there.

[Hank]

And everybody. Cutter Stallions referred to his own guys as the kgb, which is awesome. That rock.

[Big Cat]

I was dialed in.

[Hank]

He was dialed in. He was really, really good at what he did. And I think a lot of other teams were trying to do similar things. They just had a operation around it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I did like, the. The one story that came out the Tron Moore. Like, part of the reason we suspended is because he deleted all his text messages with Connor Stallions. And at first he tried to say he was doing that for storage.

[Hank]

Yeah. Clear out the iPhone.

[Coach O]

Come on, dude.

[Hank]

It's like uploading all your good pics to Instagram. You're like one photo dump. So I can delete these later?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this one guy. Okay. By who's back of the week? We should have mentioned this when we're talking golf, but creatine. Because Ben Griffin was 6 over after three holes on Sunday at the BMW and he said that it was because he overdosed on creatine.

[Hank]

All right, so that can happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You know what happens when you overdose on creatine?

[Big Cat]

He drank the whole rock. He said he never. He never swallowed one of the big rocks before.

[Hank]

You just your brains out. Yeah, it's just like full on liquid just getting blasted out of your B hole.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, he six over after three holes. And then I think he finished strong.

[Coach O]

Right?

[Big Cat]

He came back.

[Memes]

He finished strong. He's got, like, first time taking creatine or anything in his life because he talks about creatine all the time.

[Big Cat]

Ah. Like, he added true believer, added 5.

[Memes]

To 10 yards of distance this year, and it was. It's all creatine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, don't. Don't overdose on creatine. Also, who's back of the week Is ESPN just embarrassing themselves because that Shador Sanders. Deion Sanders or Barry Sanders clip was something.

[Coach O]

It was a Drew ski.

[Big Cat]

Was wearing a number 20 blue jersey.

[Coach O]

Brutal. Brutal.

[Big Cat]

Mistakes happen, though.

[Hank]

Yeah, it happens.

[Big Cat]

Live TV, we make mistakes all the time. We just did 10 minutes trying to figure out time zones.

[Hank]

Yeah, happens. I. Bernie Sanders one time instead of Barry Sanders.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, happens. All right, Zach, who's back of the.

[Zach]

Week in the most respectful way possible. My who's back of the week is Jamie Lee Curtis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Cannons.

[Zach]

Oh, man, she brought out the heavies.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. I did not know she still had.

[Zach]

That where on Tick Tock Freakier Friday promo. And Disney just. They just let her go with it.

[Coach O]

She dumped them.

[Big Cat]

Just for her.

[Zach]

Love that for her.

[Big Cat]

How old is she? Good for her.

[Zach]

Jimmy Lee Curtis, I believe, is 66. I may.

[Big Cat]

Incredible.

[Zach]

Let me double check.

[Big Cat]

Way to go, Jamie lee, Senior Division, 66.

[Hank]

They are heavy heavies.

[Big Cat]

They can suffocate us.

[Coach O]

Damn.

[Hank]

So freaking.

[Coach O]

You could go.

[Big Cat]

You could go 55 into. Into some cement.

[Coach O]

If those are.

[Big Cat]

If those are in front of you, you're surviving.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's gonna be good, Max. Are you attracted at all to that?

[Max]

Yeah, no, those are.

[Coach O]

Those are good.

[Big Cat]

Put that on a quote card. Yeah, they are good reviews of Jamie Lee Curtis's press. Yeah, yeah. No, those are good.

[Hank]

Babies are gonna watch that and be like, do not change the channel.

[Big Cat]

Good for her. You like to see older woman in Hollywood still doing it, you know? Great promo. Yeah, great promo.

[Coach O]

What are we.

[Big Cat]

We're talking, what, Freaky Friday.

[Zach]

Freaky Friday.

[Coach O]

How.

[Big Cat]

Fear Friday. We're talking about it right now. Incredible promo.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like, I know what we'll do. Well, Jamie Lee, do you want to go on? Pardon my take. No, I don't like those guys. What if you just showed a little cleavage? Oh, yeah, they'll talk about it.

[Memes]

We've done some research on social media, and it turns out showing cleavage returns more views and likes interactions.

[Max]

She was really trying to show it, too. She, like, tits are back, dude.

[Big Cat]

Tits are back. Like the Sydney Sweeney ads. They're back.

[Hank]

So misogynistic of you, Max.

[Big Cat]

It feels good to have tits back. Just like, you can just let them fly. And we're not gonna. We're not gonna judge. We're gonna say congrats. What do you say, Zach?

[Zach]

Tits. Couldn't be more back?

[Big Cat]

Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah, Zach.

[Zach]

Respectfully, of course.

[Coach O]

Any. Any.

[Big Cat]

Any dates.

[Zach]

I have not locked. I haven't. I've not gone on a second date.

[Coach O]

We're gonna just. We'll move on from that.

[Big Cat]

All right. That's fine. Jimmy Lee Curtis, though.

[Coach O]

Yeah. Oh.

[Big Cat]

What was that you just pointed up to? God?

[Coach O]

I just. I just.

[Zach]

I was being respectful.

[Big Cat]

Just kissed your fingers. What you guys will say we Sosa on us.

[Zach]

Felt right.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay. Before we get to Mount Rushmore, pft. You got a quick word from Chevy.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, Mount Rushmore time. By the way, I forgot to bring this up. Do we have any concerns? So this week we're going to barstool camp. Jerry o' Connell is coming with us. We will have our NFL fantasy football preview on Friday with Jerry o' Connell in person. Jerry o' Connell sent me a text today and it made me a little nervous. I want you guys to just tell me what you're thinking. It was an Instagram and it just said her reaction when I tell her I went rb, rb, RB in the first three rounds of my draft. And it's just, it's just a little clips of movie and been like, you're wild. You're wild. Is he gonna go rbrb?

[Hank]

No, I think he thinks that's really funny because it's like an inside fancy football. I think he's deep in the memes.

[Big Cat]

I feel like he's, that's a trial balloon. He's gonna go. He might go three RBs.

[Hank]

I, I, I don't think that we should give him the power to do okay. I think he has to clear that with Adam Shafter and Taylor Swift.

[Big Cat]

I know that, that Jerry is. Listen, we're gonna get to his fantasy preview on Friday. But, but I'm, I'm, I'm got my eyes wide open. Jerry. I think there's a chance he might sabotage this team this year because we've, we've kind of messed with him and.

[Hank]

I know I, I think he takes it too seriously to sabotage.

[Big Cat]

I think he might go all rb.

[Hank]

I. I doubt it. I think Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Which actually would be kind of a genius strategy because then everyone has to trade with you.

[Hank]

No, but Jerry, he cares about it way too much. This is a put up or shut up year. Okay, We've got Jerry on the hot seat.

[Coach O]

All right. Right. All right. All right.

[Big Cat]

Because it also be funny if he sabotaged. All right. Mount Rushmore. Mount. Mount Rushmore of worst smells. No, what.

[Max]

Sounds?

[Big Cat]

You said smells sounds. I said smells, sounds, worse sounds. I was like, holy. Did I that up.

[Hank]

Bad sounds it up.

[Big Cat]

I mean, worse sounds. Bad sounds. Bad sounds. Worse sounds.

[Hank]

Worse sounds.

[Big Cat]

Worse sounds.

[Max]

Yeah, same thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Worse sounds. Bad sounds.

[Hank]

Bad sounds.

[Big Cat]

Worse.

[Memes]

Not good sounds.

[Max]

The Mount Rushmore of bad sounds would.

[Big Cat]

Be the worst sounds.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Max]

So either way, bad sounds is fine.

[Big Cat]

But worse works as well.

[Hank]

Worst sounds, time zones. Let's do worse sounds.

[Big Cat]

We're firing boys.

[Memes]

Unpleasant sounds.

[Big Cat]

What are this? What are the standings?

[Zach]

The standings are big cat, Zach, 41. Me and Max, 37. PFC and Hank 36.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

And I believe there are eight.

[Coach O]

Eight left.

[Hank]

Okay, wait, eight.

[Zach]

Maybe not a math guy, but I think eight.

[Big Cat]

Six. We don't usually do it week. Do we do it week of Labor Day?

[Zach]

I believe the duel was that week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that was. That was overtime.

[Coach O]

Duel.

[Hank]

What if there's a duel?

[Big Cat]

We usually end at Labor Day.

[Zach]

I thought we always did Wednesday.

[Hank]

If there's a duel between four people, is that still called a duel?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, it'd be the showdown at. What was the Tiger versus Phil?

[Hank]

The match.

[Big Cat]

No, that was like the original one. The showdown at something.

[Hank]

Phil, Holla. I don't know.

[Coach O]

We.

[Big Cat]

We should decide this right now. We usually just finish it. I think it's usually the end of like, Labor Day is the end of Mount Rushmore season.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because we're talking. We're gonna have a Tuesday, Wednesday show. That's college football.

[Hank]

I agree to that. I think. I think the last.

[Big Cat]

Unless there's a duel.

[Hank]

The last full week without football. Last full week before Labor Day.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Hank]

That is the end of Mount Rushmore. That Friday's episode will be the last Mount Rushm anymore. If there's a quadrule, whatever we're calling it, then we're going to do one extra one on that Tuesday. On that Tuesday. Coming back from Labor Day.

[Coach O]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Hank]

The duel was so fun, dude.

[Big Cat]

Was so fun.

[Memes]

So fun.

[Big Cat]

What do we do?

[Hank]

Green, Green. Mount Rushmore moments was one of them. Because I didn't pick the pizza.

[Big Cat]

The Tool. I would love another duel.

[Hank]

And it was rapid fire. It was crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Off the dome. Yeah.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Hank]

And then Hank lost Mount Rushmore.

[Big Cat]

Worst sounds. Who's up?

[Hank]

We go first.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

We go first on Mondays. Yes. An.

[Big Cat]

You got.

[Memes]

That's important.

[Hank]

I got the ball. I got the ball.

[Big Cat]

All right. We're a team.

[Hank]

We are a team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But we pass the ball.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

That's what good teams do. We're going to go one one Nails on chalkboard sport. That might be a chalky pick.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

It's a good pick. Everyone hates that sound pickup.

[Memes]

Doesn't think so at all.

[Max]

It's. It.

[Big Cat]

I didn't have it on my list.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

It is a bad sound.

[Hank]

It's a bad sound.

[Memes]

It's the expression.

[Hank]

It's me.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, it's a bad.

[Hank]

Maybe the worst sound.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's a bad sound.

[Max]

How many times do you listen to nails?

[Big Cat]

Not really.

[Zach]

I don't think they make chalkboards anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they don't. Well, whiteboards.

[Hank]

Because of the nail.

[Memes]

The cat and PF2 were in school.

[Coach O]

Okay.

[Max]

That was your own guy.

[Coach O]

That was.

[Big Cat]

That was some shrapnel that you caught there.

[Hank]

That's all right.

[Big Cat]

He had to take a shot at me and he had. This is how it's got lumped in there.

[Hank]

That's how our team operates.

[Coach O]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Max memes.

[Coach O]

Memes.

[Max]

Got the ball today.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

We are going to do 60 minutes after the 4 o' clock games.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

We had that, too.

[Big Cat]

Edible.

[Coach O]

Yeah. Yep.

[Hank]

Sunday scaries.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Coach O]

We.

[Big Cat]

I think we're.

[Coach O]

We're good.

[Big Cat]

We get to just go with ours, right?

[Zach]

Yes, sir.

[Big Cat]

Okay, wait. We're gonna go two, three, two, three. Okay. Alarm to wake up. Sonar, especially the worst. Hate that sound so much. Or if you're in Zach's case, it's just a siren.

[Hank]

We had to get the mega alarm.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because of.

[Big Cat]

Of previous alarm instances, alarm to wake up is just. It is the worst feeling in the world every morning. And then baby crying on an airplane is just a horrific sound. And I. It's bad. But I also know that the parents are trying their best.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If I miss sucks.

[Hank]

If I'm in the spot with a crying baby, I just. I've gotten to the point where now I. I just feel worse for the parents maybe because I know how bad they feel. And guess what? Babies are gonna cry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We almost did baby crying in the middle of the night, but that is very specific. It's your baby, so it's a little different. Baby crying on an airplane like that sucks for everyone else, but it is a very bad sound to have a baby cry in the middle of night. Cause you're like, shit. Okay, you guys are up.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Zach]

This is one of those sounds you don't realize how bad it is until it's happening. Driving on the highway, one window down.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the ear.

[Coach O]

Terrible.

[Big Cat]

Hate that. Terrible. Great pick.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Hank]

Great pick.

[Big Cat]

Great pick. Great pick.

[Hank]

All right, so we get two picks.

[Big Cat]

I love to turn to put the windows down. It fucks me up every time.

[Coach O]

All right.

[Hank]

Okay. I'm good.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Hank you okay?

[Hank]

Why are you wincing?

[Big Cat]

Do you not like nails on a chalkboard?

[Hank]

You're pre wincing.

[Memes]

I'm waiting. I'm listening. I'm excited.

[Big Cat]

I can't look.

[Coach O]

Okay. Right.

[Hank]

We're going to go knives and forks on a plate, scratching it up, and then Tony Romo. Just Tony Romo.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Anything specific that's on your own.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Okay. How you feeling about this draft?

[Hank]

Feel great. I think it's great.

[Coach O]

Still going.

[Memes]

There's still a lot of value on the board.

[Hank]

Big Cat is trying to instill a hatred towards it.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Hank]

Off would have all been great. I'm asking.

[Big Cat]

No, I like the Tony. I agree. I agree.

[Hank]

I like Trying to get Big Cat right now is in the mode of I'm going to pretend that these are bad picks.

[Memes]

He wants me.

[Big Cat]

Chalkboard was a bad pick.

[Memes]

He wants me to say Tony Romo is a bad pick.

[Hank]

Nails on a chalkboard.

[Big Cat]

I like Tony Romo pick.

[Hank]

The very definition of a bad sound is nails on chalk.

[Big Cat]

But again, you never hear it anymore.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I can't believe you guys are trying to gaslight us and the audience cliche.

[Memes]

It's like, what is the most bad sound?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good point. Aspect. Yeah, aspect.

[Max]

Reddit.

[Big Cat]

Ass. It's an expression.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It is literally the expression.

[Hank]

Max the amount of crack you dump out. I've seen some ass pics of you recently.

[Big Cat]

Tony.

[Max]

Tony Romo was. That was a good one. That was a good one.

[Big Cat]

Tony Rom was a good one. We. We all on this podcast do not like hearing Tony Romo's voice.

[Memes]

What about knives and a plate? That's three great picks.

[Hank]

Knives and forks on a plate.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't really bother me, but really bad.

[Memes]

Me neither, but it's really bad.

[Coach O]

Really bad. Hey, there it is. Is.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't bother you?

[Coach O]

Not.

[Memes]

Not that much. No.

[Big Cat]

There was one that we.

[Hank]

Hank said that knives and forks don't bother him as much as nails on.

[Big Cat]

I appreciate your honesty. Because Zach and I don't know if it'll get picked, but you could talk about an honorable mentions. There was a pick that Zach wanted to pick, and I said, it does not bother me at all. I cannot pick it.

[Max]

I think everyone else. I have a personal one that is like, same just for me, but I feel like everyone has those. That'll be good honorable mention talk.

[Big Cat]

Okay, you guys are up.

[Zach]

Violent throw up.

[Big Cat]

That's the pick that I couldn't pick. I always find throw up very funny.

[Coach O]

Same.

[Big Cat]

I can't. I cannot. I could not pick it. We had the conversation. Zach was like, I want to pick this. I was like, dude, I can't. Good conscious. Because if someone's throwing up, I laugh my ass off every time you're weird about you. It's. It's brain molded by jackass.

[Max]

I do think video. Watching a video of someone throwing up is way like. If someone is in the same room as you throwing up, it's like, I laugh. I can't. I can't be there.

[Hank]

It's one of those things where the smell is so much worse than the sound. It's like somebody taking a nasty shit.

[Max]

I don't know if. If there's a.

[Big Cat]

That was our next pick.

[Max]

I think you're up.

[Coach O]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Our next pick is someone taking a massive next to you.

[Hank]

I think that's funny.

[Big Cat]

That's. How is that funny?

[Hank]

That's. That's the same thing where I think. I think the smell is what gets you. The sound. Not that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I hate the sound when they. When you know they're about to just go to work and you're like, God damn it, I'm stuck. You gotta, like, hurry up.

[Coach O]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

So someone taking a massive. Next to you and you're. When you're in a stall is our next pick. Zach, we got one last pick.

[Zach]

How do you feel about six or nine?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's go six. I like six.

[Zach]

We're gonna go with loud chewing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Loud chewing.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Drives you nuts.

[Hank]

Mouth open.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Ugh, gross. Someone who just didn't learn how to chew.

[Coach O]

Very annoying. Do it.

[Big Cat]

Rip it.

[Coach O]

Do it.

[Zach]

No, I don't know which one.

[Big Cat]

We gotta talk.

[Max]

No, yeah. It's the one that we just talked about that we said that we were gonna get in the fourth.

[Coach O]

I think that's a great pick.

[Zach]

You think that's a great pick?

[Coach O]

Yeah. All right.

[Zach]

Bad injury. Knee pop. Broken bone.

[Hank]

Just bad injury.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Max]

The sound that if you're on a sporting event and you hear the sound of a knee going or a bone breaking.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Max]

It's a horrible, horrible, horrible sound to hear.

[Hank]

Yeah. The pop, then the scream.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Scream. Yeah.

[Coach O]

The whole. The whole.

[Max]

The whole thing is. Is a bad sound if you can hear the injury. It's a horrible, horrible sound.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's very. It's so weird when it happens to you. You like that feeling where it's like, I'm up right now.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When you feel your own. Yeah, big time. All right, you guys have your last pick.

[Hank]

Yeah. Hank. Yeah. We're gonna go with it. We're gonna do it.

[Coach O]

What?

[Big Cat]

Whoa. Six.

[Hank]

No, it's not even on. It's not even on that. Oh, it's four. Number four on that list.

[Memes]

Your ball, I think.

[Hank]

Six.

[Coach O]

I don't know.

[Memes]

Whatever. Four is a crazy pick.

[Hank]

Someone being burned alive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's a bad sound, I guess.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Very bad sound. This is Hank's pick.

[Max]

What was the other one?

[Memes]

A car not starting.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's.

[Coach O]

Oh, that's a much better thing.

[Max]

That's a much better.

[Hank]

I like Hank's pick better. I like Hanks better.

[Big Cat]

Bar not turning over.

[Max]

Yeah, that's a terrible. That's a great pick.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Sometimes you just hear that noise, and you're just like, well, I'm gonna deal with it. We're gonna get through this together.

[Max]

Well, you're talking about somebody burned alive or.

[Hank]

How many times are you ask Hank this question?

[Memes]

Game of Thrones.

[Coach O]

We were. We were brainstorming.

[Big Cat]

I was like, is it dark?

[Hank]

Is this someone being burned alive? That. That's hard to hear. It's tough.

[Big Cat]

Stannis Baratheon.

[Max]

Just.

[Hank]

Anyone dying, screaming. It's pain.

[Memes]

The red witch.

[Hank]

Everybody around is panicking too. Like, put him out.

[Coach O]

Put him out.

[Hank]

Doesn't even have water.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Put a blanket on.

[Coach O]

Stop.

[Big Cat]

Drop rule. The car pick was.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Memes]

No, I think Gard alive would have been a funny honorable mention. Car pick been.

[Coach O]

Would have to.

[Hank]

But, hey, I think I've heard the car not starting so many times that I. It's. It's old hat for me. Doesn't panope like it used to?

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's do some honorable mentions.

[Hank]

I had Drake.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We had Taylor Swift.

[Hank]

Okay. We thought about doing Taylor Swift, too.

[Big Cat]

We're like, we can't do just because.

[Hank]

It pissed people off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

We had. When your parents call you by your full name, Pro football talk commenter. Get in here. Cats fighting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, we had a. Along the same lines, when you wake up to your dog licking its butt. Yeah. That sound is so gross.

[Hank]

Or the sound of your dog or cat starting to throw up. That's that one.

[Memes]

The sound of a shark.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You think you're gonna fart and then you just hear it's wet.

[Big Cat]

The sound of a clearly fake orgasm. That one's always tough.

[Max]

I said I took the sound of your own.

[Big Cat]

Zach said. Zach was like, no, we take those anyway way.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, I don't care.

[Zach]

I think it's a kind thing to do.

[Hank]

Yeah. Listen, if the guy's having enough fun, who cares?

[Big Cat]

That makes me. Do you fake orgasm?

[Zach]

No, I just appreciate the. It's like someone being. They're being kind by faking it.

[Coach O]

So this is. You're.

[Zach]

It's a nice thing to do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

A little bit patronizing, but yeah.

[Coach O]

Take it.

[Big Cat]

We'll move on.

[Hank]

Next play, we had Vuvu Zis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, good one.

[Hank]

Condom breaking. Kind of breaking the snap when a band says, we're gonna play a couple of our new songs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Max, what was yours?

[Max]

The sound of your own voice, like when you.

[Big Cat]

I was thinking about that, but it's like we've done it for. I know, but it's like whatever.

[Max]

For most.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for most people.

[Hank]

It's a good pick. Yeah, you should have done that one. That's a much better pick.

[Big Cat]

What about dental drill memes?

[Coach O]

Had that on the list.

[Big Cat]

Fucks me up. Cow bells, Cowbells. Yeah, the. I had a niche parent 1. The Coco Melon intro it. It will make a kid come from like 70 yards away. We'll just be like TV. The. It's a cocoa melon. It's like these bees buzzing. It's. Drives me nuts. Air horns from pmt Episode one. Pretty bad sound.

[Hank]

Pardon my take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Broadcast test sound.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is a national broadcastness emergency or whatever. The.

[Hank]

Hank had rattlesnake on here. I kind of like a rattlesnake.

[Big Cat]

Okay, how about.

[Coach O]

What?

[Hank]

Rattlesnakes are horrible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Why do you like a rattlesnake?

[Hank]

I don't know. It's cool. I respect nature.

[Memes]

Have you heard one in person?

[Max]

Just talk about how scared we are.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, if you do like snakes, you're. You're the weird one.

[Big Cat]

You're a weird one.

[Hank]

I'm not talking about liking the snake. I'm talking about respecting the rattle.

[Memes]

You've never heard of rat?

[Hank]

I have heard rattlesnake in person.

[Big Cat]

You a guy like, you respect the rattle.

[Hank]

I respect the rattle. It's. It used to be thanking the rattlesnake that's got a rattle on its tail. For letting you know that it's there.

[Big Cat]

It's there. Yeah.

[Hank]

The snakes, you got to watch out for the ones that are rattleless.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's like a. It's like a cat with a bell on its. Yeah. On its collar.

[Hank]

It's a cool sound.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Give it a shot.

[Memes]

My one one in this would have been folding paper.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my. My personal one is styrofoam.

[Hank]

Styrofoam's bad.

[Big Cat]

Styrofoam. I hate when styrofoam's rubbing up against itself.

[Max]

My personal one's weird, but it is ripping a napkin.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Max]

Like, there's some. Like, even me just saying that out loud is making, like, my skin crawl.

[Big Cat]

That bothers you?

[Hank]

What about velcro? You guys supposed.

[Max]

I like velcro.

[Memes]

Big fan.

[Big Cat]

I like velcro a lot. Do your personal one, Zach.

[Zach]

I don't like hearing, like. Like, if you bite on the silverware hard. Like hearing the teeth on metal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's me a little. But also your personal one. Number 20.

[Zach]

The fortnight down sound is always a bad one.

[Big Cat]

I. Zach played it for me. I didn't. I wasn't familiar with it.

[Max]

Oh, when you're, like, going out of the. Out of the bus.

[Hank]

No, no.

[Zach]

It's like, when you go down, it's.

[Max]

Like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Coach O]

My bad. My bad. Bad.

[Big Cat]

The fox injury music, it's. It's a bad one. Police siren behind you always gives you a little, like, jump scare.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

It's the worst when it's in a song.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah. Or when, like, they have a. A phone alarm or a doorbell ring in a commercial.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

That's the worst.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Yeah.

[Memes]

I had, like, when you're driving, you're listening to music, and then, like, a text comes in or something, and then that y. Just ruins the.

[Hank]

I think it was Wendy's that had that. They had the doorbell sound during one of their commercials they were running to during the NBA playoffs. Yeah, it sucked. Every single time. Blake was like, what the Is going on?

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It ruins your entire setup.

[Big Cat]

What about the knock on the bathroom when you're taking a huge.

[Hank]

Someone's in here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's always just a little bit of a panic knowing that what you're doing. There's going to be someone standing right outside the door. Being, like, now walking in that. That pass off is just the worst. I had that in the invitational. Some guy, like, I was. Was taking a. And the guy was like, is it good in there? And I was like, dude, you know the answer. I just Said that to him. What do you.

[Coach O]

What.

[Big Cat]

Why would you ask me that? Why are you putting me on the spot like this? You know what just happened in here? Let's see.

[Hank]

Livia soprano.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Coach O]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Microphone feedback. That one sucks.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Hotel clock alarm. Different than obviously the wake up alarm because you didn't set it.

[Hank]

The old school.

[Big Cat]

Someone else said it and it's like, what the fuck just happened?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you just usually have to like unplug the hotel clock and smash it.

[Coach O]

Mm.

[Big Cat]

A specific one for me is something about like, it's. It's really like a two or three year old scream. It this high pitched scream that you can't. It just. It wrecks everything.

[Max]

My niece and my niece and nephews do this thing when they get together that they just. Just battle each other of who can scream louder. That. And. And it's just back and forth forever.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Max]

And it's the. It's not annoying thing ever.

[Big Cat]

It's not like always necessarily like they're in like upset or anything. It's like sometimes they're just doing it for fun and it's.

[Max]

No, it's fun.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Max]

It's a. It's a game. And they're laughing as they're doing it, but it's this high pitched and it's so. It pierces your ears.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Did anybody think about putting Hank's yawns on here?

[Coach O]

Here.

[Memes]

O. P. Said that. I said you would be the only person that would have put that on there.

[Hank]

I thought for sure one other person would have said it now. Just me.

[Big Cat]

They bother you the most? They bother me a little, by far. Zach, you had a good one.

[Coach O]

The.

[Big Cat]

The sound of the bottom botting out.

[Zach]

Your car when you.

[Big Cat]

When you go over front bumper.

[Zach]

Bad.

[Big Cat]

You go over a speed bump too fast.

[Hank]

I know all the roads with the smallest speed bumps in my neighborhood. Yeah, exactly. That reason.

[Big Cat]

That's such a shitty sound to be like, God damn it, something bad just happened. We also had check engine light car accident. Zach throughout there. That's just. That is a bad sound.

[Hank]

It is. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Unless you're walking because then you get to go watch. Like if you hear. If you hear the wheels screech and you hear like a smash, you're like, I'm gonna get to go watch an episode of cops.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Live.

[Big Cat]

All right. Any others?

[Zach]

Chris Collinsworth.

[Memes]

Gunshot.

[Big Cat]

Ooh.

[Zach]

He's my room out.

[Big Cat]

Oh, interesting. Here's a guy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Hank.

[Hank]

That's a good pickaxe. Somebody shooting a gun at you is a good pick Just a.

[Memes]

Gunshot in general. It's usually like not. Not what you want to hear.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Gunshot or fireworks.

[Big Cat]

Since we're doing announcers, can we say the A's announcer?

[Max]

I brought that up to me, but I think she's so bad that she's at that.

[Coach O]

It's good.

[Max]

Like, the clips are hilarious. Like, cuz I don't. It's not like I'm regularly listening to an A's broadcast, but every time she does just like a ridiculous clip, I think it's funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Another one that's not niche, but. Well, it's a little bit. Everyone's had it. The sitting on a plane, the engines being turned off, when you're like, oh, here we go.

[Hank]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

Like a delay. Like, when you're. When you're sitting in, when you're, like, about to.

[Hank]

You're really not gonna take.

[Big Cat]

You're about to push back. And then it's just like, you just hear everything.

[Hank]

Power down, powers down.

[Big Cat]

God fucking damn it.

[Hank]

Bad, bad time.

[Big Cat]

This is gonna be the worst. Okay, that was good.

[Hank]

Mount Rushmore.

[Big Cat]

That sounds worse.

[Coach O]

Sounds any other.

[Big Cat]

Zach.

[Zach]

I don't like. You drop your phone on the pavement.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because there's like A two. There's the impending doom of. I've got no more phone. You don't know what's going on.

[Big Cat]

I dropped mine like a month ago and I. I just have a cracked iPhone now. I'm just a hot girl. I'm just waiting for the new iPhone.

[Coach O]

IPhone.

[Hank]

Yeah. When's that coming out?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. But I. I'm. I'm refusing to, like, it's starting to become a problem. It's starting to splinter and get really bad. But I'm like, I'm so close.

[Hank]

It feels good, though. Cracked iPhone. I kind of like it.

[Big Cat]

I'm badass.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What can I say? I live. I live my life on the edge. Okay, good. Mount Rushmore. Let's get to Coach O in studio. Awesome. Awesome interview with Coacho.

[Hank]

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[Coach O]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. Recurring guest. We haven't seen him in a few years, but he's a great friend of ours, and I think we're friends of his. Remember, you said. I think that was one of the things you said at the end of one of our interviews with you, that we are your friend. It is Coacho in studio. Coacho, great to see you. We just had dinner together. It's great to see you back. And I hope that this maybe is the start of you maybe getting back on a sideline, because that's what I'm hoping for. We need you in our lives.

[Coach O]

Well, I'll tell you what, man, you guys are wonderful. I want to congratulate y', all, all the success y' all have. But you know what? You're still the same guys. You, our friends. You're always gonna be our friends. Derek and I, what a great show you guys have.

[Hank]

Yeah, we appreciate it. I don't know if you saw this earlier, but on my laptop since the day we met, I got Coach O helmet stickers.

[Coach O]

I love it.

[Hank]

That I popped on here. I love it. Carrie. A lot of times people are like, who's that on your laptop? That's coach. Oh, you need to start watching more football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So you do want to get back into coaching football?

[Big Cat]

You know what time?

[Coach O]

Yeah, I think it's time. I'm feeling a little bit. I haven't made the decision totally, but, you know, I got my boys settled coaching football now, and it's been four years since I've been out, and I'm getting the itch again. So.

[Big Cat]

So what does the last four years look like? Have you just been kind of laying low? Have you been watching football? Have you been talking to anyone about football? Because you are a football guy through and through. It had to have been weird to. I would imagine that was one of the first times in your life since you were a little kid that you took a break from football.

[Coach O]

You know, it was. I didn't know what was going to happen. We went down. One of my sons, Cody and I went down to Miami, and Mario Cristobal has been great to me, who I coached at the University of Miami. Miami. And we asked him if we can get Cody a job as a young analyst. And he said, yeah, come on up. And Cody said, daddy, Miami is a big city. You mind moving down here? I said, I'll volunteer.

[Big Cat]

That's good, dad. Yeah, you'll take one for the team.

[Coach O]

So I moved down to Miami beach and I've been living there ever since. My other son, Parker, is an analyst at Miami. So I got two boys there and my oldest son coaching a tooling.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

And I've seen a couple videos. Every now and again, somebody sees you out for a run and they take a video. Though I got spotted coacho on south beach speech. I saw one guy a couple weeks ago, he was a real piece of. He said, roll tied to you.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then you, you did a great thing. You were. You were very nice, very polite to him. And then he turned around, he said, wait a second. And he turned back to me go. You watch your mouth. Like, basically said, I'm gonna be nice to you, but just know I could.

[Coach O]

Still kick your ass about respect, man. You know what I mean? And, you know, hey, when you get out in the real world, you know, when you. When you with people in sports, we understand the code. This side, this is the thing you do these things you don't do out there. I think a lot of people don't understand the code. I'm out there to teach them. Yeah. So if.

[Hank]

If you had to pick, and we're not going to hold you to anything, but would you. Are you thinking more about the pros or more about college football?

[Coach O]

Yeah, I really like college football. I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't not, not entertain the pros, but I think college football is where I've been and I really like it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

All right.

[Big Cat]

So not coaching football. How many Red Bulls are you drinking? It's like, that has to change, right?

[Coach O]

Yeah. I don't know. You know, I still get up at 5 o'. Clock. I still have an itinerary.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Coach O]

My wife goes, you're retired. I have an itinerary. I get up at 5, I go to Some meetings in the morning and then I work out. I end up about 3:30 in the day that I'm done. That's the days I have off. Three or four days a week I'm at football practice.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay. So you are, you're, you're still around the guys. So are you, are you still crushing Red Bulls before. Every day.

[Coach O]

Oh, no question.

[Big Cat]

How many?

[Coach O]

I love Red Bull. Well, you know, going, I've gotten down to, to maybe, maybe six. Maybe.

[Hank]

Yeah. Last week, Chad, I, I think you said you had to curtail some of your Red Bull drinking.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

At, at your height, how high did it get?

[Coach O]

Yeah. Oh, 12 to 15.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Coach O]

Hey, we're dipping a cup. Little, little dip of coffee. A little dip of coffee help you too? Go straight to you.

[Hank]

So wait, you'd mix it in with the Red Bull?

[Coach O]

No, no, put in your lip. Oh yeah.

[Hank]

Oh, the coffee grounds.

[Big Cat]

Coffee grounds in your lips, huh?

[Coach O]

Oh yeah, go straight to your lip.

[Hank]

Have you, you eat any worms in the last couple years?

[Coach O]

You know what? I haven't eaten any worms though, man. I didn't have to do it. I haven't had many speeches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, wait, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta retell that story. Cause I'm sure there are some new awls. We've been doing this for a long time. It's an all time hype up story. So set the stage for us.

[Coach O]

You know, Joe Peace at, at Northwestern State University was a great coach, man, and he had told a story one time. It was a motivating story. And I heard it, I heard it from him and he did it in front of the team. And it was like my freshman year. Then my senior year, I was going to give a speech at a banquet. And so I went out in the grass field. We had a grass field, we had a bunch of big worms, man. And I was out looking for some worms to get a worm. And Coach Goodwin says, baby, what are you doing? I said, coach, I'm looking for some worms. He didn't even ask me. So there's a big old worm. So I found a bunch of them. Then I went that night and I said, you know, there's two guys fishing in Alaska. Cut the hole. One guy's catching a bunch of fish, the other guy's not catching anything. And he looks at, he looks at the guy, he says, what are you doing? What is your bait? He goes, worms. You go. He goes, I'm using worms too. He said, why am I not catching bait? He goes, you got to keep them warm. Warm before you put them on the hook. He said, well, how the hell you do that? Keep him in my mouth. I'll do anything to feed my family. I pulled out a big old worm team, got fired. I'll do anything to win. I'm gonna tell you what, it was tough, though. That worm was crawling around my mouth.

[Big Cat]

Did you win that game?

[Coach O]

Game? You know, it was like. It was like a spring game.

[Big Cat]

Okay, wait, that's a spring game? That's your pump up for a spring game?

[Hank]

Did you ever think I should have waited to. To use this during an actual game that counted?

[Coach O]

Yeah. You know, later on, you know, I didn't have to do that. You know, I just made sure Joe Burrow's on the bus.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So what was that like after winning the Natty? So we. We were. We got to experience it as fans and as fans of yours and of Joe Burrows. So we were in Louisiana that night watching the game. Amazing game. What was that like for the next couple weeks? Were you just basically, you were the kings of Louisiana?

[Coach O]

Well, I think I felt like we were the kings of the country, man. Everybody loved us. A lot of people were supporting us. You know, the next day, I saw you guys in the morning. I think that I was the only one that went to bed a little early, and we had a press conference, and, you know, we were going home. And, you know, I was raised down to bayou. You know, people catch shrimp for a living. They work hard. They're great people. And, man, we go down Highway 30, we take the back road, and the cooks, the people that were working in the refinery were screaming gold tigers. And that was one of my biggest moments to see all those people satisfied. You see, when you become the head coach, lsu, you got to understand this, man. On Saturday night, night, for three to four hours, everybody in that state is cheering for the Tigers, right? And if you win, they're happy. If you don't, they mad as hell. That's you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's cultural thing.

[Coach O]

Yep.

[Hank]

Do you think was that the best college football team of all time?

[Coach O]

I'll say this. With Joe, I think we could beat anybody. But, you know, we get. You hear comparisons here and there, and you know what my answer is? It's got to be one on the field. Field. Now, they've had some other great teams, but I do believe with Joe and the team that we have, we could have beat anybody we played that year for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you specifically have been part of, I mean, some of the, like, late 80s, early 90s Miami teams, the early 2000s, USC teams. So you can speak to it like you, you were part of some really special football teams.

[Coach O]

Five national championships. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So would you say if you had to put them all out there, all those teams out there, that LSU team team would win that, that game?

[Coach O]

I put the LSU team in front of everybody.

[Hank]

Wow. When did you know that it was going to be a special team?

[Coach O]

You know, first of all, all the pieces came together. You know, there's a lot of stories that stuff came together here and there. And Derek and I, man, we had planned this for five years, man. Just this is how we're going to do it. You know, I had a blueprint from Jimmy Johnson, I had a blueprint from Pete Carroll. Now was my time to do it. You know, I went to Ole Miss and I made a bunch of mistakes. I tell everybody, don't worry about my mistakes. I did them all miss. So I'm ready to go here. But when it was third down, I think it's 17 in Texas. Yeah, we should have went four minute offense to run the clock down because Texas was hot, they were scoring. It was third down to 17. There's zero blitzes. Clyde picks up the linebacker, Joe slides to the left and it gives time for Justin Jefferson on the crossing route to get over open. Other quarterbacks would have got sacked. Justin gets open, he hits Justin, he gets hit, he throws Justin a great pass touchdown. That's when I knew we had a great team. Because, you know, the bottom line, you can coach all you want. Playmakers got to make plays in the big game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. So you say you had a plan. Obviously Joe Burrow was a big part of that plan. What was it like recruiting him and getting it? Because that's a, I mean, Joe Burrow story. Winning a Heisman, being the number one overall pick, being so good in the NFL. That was not the Joe Burrow that you recruited. That was, you know, the guy you recruited was the guy who couldn't get the starting job at Ohio State and, you know, was a good football player, but maybe wasn't the guy that ended up being everything, all world, everything.

[Coach O]

He developed. Thank God we had him for two years. Yeah, we needed that, you know, you know, having, you know, going to Miami, having the great quarterbacks we had at Miami. Then we go to usc, Carson Palmer, Matt Leiner, all those great. So I had a, a vision in my mind what we needed. So we had our spring spring ball. Back when spring balls, spring game was on tv. Now they'll put Them on TV because they post their players, right? Yeah. And our quarterbacks didn't play well. I got a son playing at Magnie's. He called me, said, dad, our quarterback sucked today. I said, I know, I know. I get it. He said, daddy, there's a guy named Joe Burrow. Burrow transferred from Ohio State. You ought to look him up. So I went out the coaching staff. Bill Bush had been at Ohio State. I said, bill, you know Joe Burrow. He says, coach, if we get Joe Burrow, we're going to college football playoffs. I said, let's go get him now. Joe's coach, who recruited him, was at Cincinnati at the time. Joe's girlfriend was going to Cincinnati when Joe came on a trip. Guess where Joe was to going? Cincinnati. Ain't no doubt, right? So Joe gets Derek. I never had a recruit tell me this. Joe gets here, and I say, joe, come on, office coach, I don't want to talk to you. I said, what? He said, coach, I know you're a great recruiter. I don't want to hear all that bull. He said, I want to eat crawfish and I want to talk football. And you know, if I didn't need a quarterback so bad, I wouldn't have responded this way. I said, okay, okay. So left them alone. The next day we had a football meeting. Jerry Sullivan was in there, who developed. Justin Jefferson had been in the NFL. Stevensming, Joe's daddy, Joe's brother. We had about 10, 15 people in there. Derek was in there. It took me five minutes to figure out that Joe Burrow was the smartest guy in the room. No doubt. So, all right, number one, he's a smart quarterback. Jimmy Johnson told me that. Get a smart quarter quarterback. So we go to eat crawfish. Y' all might have hit the story. And Derek comes to me. Sharon comes to me, say, hey, Coach, there's no crawfish. You gotta think on your feet, man. You gotta just on the move, right? You gotta be from Louisiana. Do this. Hey, call Boudreaux. Boudreaux ball and crawfish down to the other restaurant. Bring 40 pounds of crawfish ball and put it on the platter and. And give it to Joe. So he ate crawfish. So we go out, we have a meeting. I never told nobody about this. We had a private meeting. I said, joe, if you tell anybody this, you're lying. You're going to be my starting quarterback, but you got to earn it. I said, by the way, I got two receivers, man. Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. You haven't heard about them yet. So the next day we have a big breakfast. Derek's there. Coaches wise there. So when the parents leave, we all stay and we say, okay, Is he coming or not? Cincinnati. He's going to Cincinnati. But Joe said something. He said, I'm not taking any phone calls and I'll decide on Thursday. Do you think I was going to wait till Thursday not to get in touch with Joe Burrow? Right when my bus on the line. Well, we made a connection with his brother Dave. Dan and Dan talked a lot more than Joe. So I called Dan. Me and Derek called Dan the next day. I said, dan, are you talking to Joe? Yeah, yeah. You answer your phone? Yeah. I said, you got to be my voice now. Okay? I said, dan, where do you think? Come on, Dan. LSU or Cincinnati? Ain't even close. Dan gives me this old. Well, Coach, you know, I said, dan, f that. What do you want? You love your brother? I said, dan, do you? Hey, grab down there, son. I said, grab down there in your pan. Oh, you. You got two of them, Dan. He goes, I'm doing. I'm grabbing them, coach. I got him. I got them. I said, dan, squeeze them. Son of a gun. Yeah, Coach, I'm squeezing. I said, call your brother. Tell him to calm down the shoe. If you got two of them down there, boy, we tell that story. He. He was like, I got him, coach. Squeeze. I'm got him. I got him. I got him. He actually did it, man. And Dan was our voice. Yeah. To call Joe. Now, Joe said that wasn't his deciding, but I wasn't. You know, how's a recruit going to tell you you need him? And he's not going to talk to nobody through somebody. Go talk to him. Right? You got to compete.

[Big Cat]

If you're not talking to the other guys, somebody's competing.

[Coach O]

You got to find the back door, man. You got to get on the ground. But, man, what a story. Then just out the blue on Thursday, I got a call. Joe Burrow said, coach, I'm going to be LSU tight.

[Big Cat]

Oh, unbelievable.

[Coach O]

How about that?

[Big Cat]

Dan Burrow is also. Also the guy who got Joe in with us.

[Coach O]

Is that right, emt? Yeah. Well, Dan's got two, man. He got two. He squeezed.

[Hank]

Yes, proven. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta recruit the brother sometimes. Yeah, good word, right.

[Coach O]

You gotta know the champion, who's the decision maker. That's what I always thought that who is the decision making? The process. I recruited the champion harder than I recruited the recruit.

[Hank]

So I think Joe. Joe is probably the decision maker in that. But also having like a trusted guy, his brother put in a good word.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's like every little bit helps.

[Coach O]

That's right.

[Hank]

I love the fact that he just wouldn't talk to you when he got there. He gave you this stiff arm.

[Coach O]

He's like.

[Hank]

He's like, I know you're going to convince me to come to lsu, so I can't talk to you.

[Coach O]

You're too good at. Yeah. You know what? You got to respect that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, when Joe came in, he was the fourth string quarterback and I went watch him. We were running tails with Tommy Moff, who, by the way, y' all know Tommy Moff did a great job for us, man. And I couldn't coach the players in the summer, but I could watch Joe ran every 110 and won every 110.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And after that, Joe and Foster Morrow, who was Joe's host, went out throw ball and the rest of the team went with the quarterbacks that were there, obviously. Right. But all of a sudden, Joe starts. Joe never lost a 110. Then all of a sudden see a couple guys go catch bastards with Joe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And Joe won the locker room himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

What a tremendous job. Now, having two years with him helped.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because I was gonna say that we were talking about it before, but the first year was, you know, he was good. He wasn't Heisman. And we went to the game. There's our. Actually our first game that we went to lsu and it was. It lived up to the hype in terms of the crowd, the atmosphere. But you guys didn't score a point. You lost the Bama. You didn't score a point. But you said that that was probably the most important loss that you had because it changed everything.

[Coach O]

Through adversity, you learn the most. You should. Right. And after that game, I went to Steve Ensmaker, who's a stud. I think we won like 80% of our games with Steve. He's like John Wayne. He's a great guy. I said, steve, we got to go to sprint. He goes, I agree. Well, we had a young guy named Joe Brady who came, talked to us about RPOs in the summer, and we had some guys in the Saints. I said, hey, let's start working, Joe. I said, steve, are you receptive of me bringing in another guy? Him teaches the spread and y' all work together. And he did, and it worked out perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

How would you get you guys up for a game against Nick Saban in Alabama, because they, they seem to just crank them out in terms of recruiting. They were great at player development too. And for a while, lsu, it was always the story of LSU was you can't beat Alabama. You can't reach that top pinnacle.

[Coach O]

That's right.

[Hank]

How would you get. How did you get you guys prepared, especially after an ass kicking like that, that. That you can actually go out there and compete with them?

[Coach O]

Yes. Well, first of all, as a head coach, I knew the benchmark was at the beat Alabama. So everything that we did every day, I didn't say we had to beat Alabama, but I knew that they said they set the benchmark high and we were right there and we had to get past them. First of all, I thought you had to match their physicality. I was wrong. We spread them out. And that day we went to Tuscaloosa, we really ripped them a good one, right? Yeah. They came back. Give it to Nick Saban, his team who's stuff and great coach. But we really had a great game plan. I remember, you know, I'd go home Thursday night and Joe Brady would stay in the office till four in the morning. And the next day on Friday, he just looked at me say, coach, we got him. And I remember getting on the plane, it was like I was going with my buddies. We were going to a fight, man, we were going to win. And there was no question we were going to win that game.

[Big Cat]

But it's, I mean, it's a testament to you as a, you know, like the, the being in charge of the whole program to be like, hey, we lost this game. We got to change. We got to adapt. And finding a guy like Joe Brady, who's a young guy who a lot of teams probably wouldn't take a chance on, to put into that elevated role for a huge team in a huge conference.

[Coach O]

Yeah, yeah. You know, recognizing talent, I mean, that's been one of my strengths as a recruiter. When Joe came and he spoke to our staff in the summer, I knew this guy was going to be a great coach. I mean, Ray Charles could see that. You know what I mean?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So I'm looking at a picture right now of, of your famous binder. Actually, Derek tweeted this out back In, I think, 2016 when you made your pitch to LSU saying, you hire me as the head coach, I'm more than an interim guy. I can, I can lead LSU back to greatness. You had a binder. Do you remember how many pages were in this binder that you made?

[Coach O]

Made. I think we had two or three binders.

[Hank]

So it was a multiple. Multiple additions, multiple volumes. What was in that binder? I got to know. Do you still have a copy of the binder plan?

[Coach O]

Derek got it. I probably got it in my mind, but I'm not. I'm not. I don't keep all this, but I'll tell you. Let me tell you what happened that day. Okay, so we go to Texas A and M, right? And we tear them a new one. There is guys ran the football up and down the field. And I get back on the plane and Derek's sitting in front of me and his head is down like that. And we just won a big game. I'm like, what's going on, alumni? Come coach. Too bad. I said, what? He did a good run. They're going to hire. Who was it? Jimbo Fisher. They're going to hire Jimbo Fisher. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, the next day I go to meet with the athletic director, me, Derek and, and Austin Thomas. We got the binders, we got everything ready. AD comes in, who was a great guy. He looks at us, he has his head down. He goes, he takes the binders and he pushes them. He don't even open them. I'm like, what's going on? I'm kicking Derek. I'm kicking all. So what's happening? He says, guys, I hate to tell you I'm going to meet with Tom Herman tonight. We had a good run. I said, derek, Eric, Austin, you gotta leave. Hey, you know Eminem, one shot. You know, he got one shot, right? Like the time I hugged Sandra Bullock. I'll tell you, one shot to do that. I pulled a chair, I said, joe. And I was hitting him right here, you know, in your heart and your belly. I'm the best man to be the head coach of the LSU Tigers. I shook his hand step. I said, I look forward to being the head coach of LSU Tiger. And I walked out of there. I go, okay. I was living in a hotel. We moved out the hotel. We go home. Anyway, things happen, you know, Tom Herman. Lane Kiffin texted me, 1:30, Tom Herman's going to Texas, all that stuff. And all of a sudden I think it's like 5:30, 6 in the morning. I missed a call from Joel Levy Ad what the going on? He called me, said, hey man, could you be in Baton Rouge an hour? I said, hell yeah, man, I'm coming. Look, I'm going down. I12 playing more than by you as hard. And I'm going about 120 miles an hour. Then all of a sudden, I make a call, say, hey, they didn't offer me the job. Somebody told me, I don't think they want to meet with you and tell you that offer job. So I get to lsu, and Joe's standing near the Tiger, man. I pull in there. He said, well, you want the job or not? I grabbed him, I gave him a big, let me down, you big boy. So we went talk. And we're talking there. We was talking about things that are going to happen on. He said, hey, I got to tell you something. I said, what? Joe? He said, you know when you hit me in my. My stomach like that? He said, you were right. He said, I went to bed at night, I had a knot in my stomach, man. I said, put that Cajun gree GRE on your ass, boy, what a story, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's great.

[Hank]

It worked out. It worked out really, really well. And then you fast forward a couple years. The championship season was just. It was. It was incredible. So much fun to watch. And then the way things ended there, I actually thought you had a really good perspective about the whole thing. Is when they said, okay, we're going to fire you. Here's your buyout. Would you say, like, which door you want me to walk out of? Yeah, just write the check.

[Coach O]

Yeah. What time you want me to go, what door you want me to walk out of, brother? Yeah, but you know what? Hey, man, I'm a positive guy. I'm never going to let people know they got me. You know what I mean? Deep down inside, I may be hurting, I may be burning. We don't show it. We have a saying. Big chest and big eyes. We look forward, we work through adversity, and we keep on going.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you, I mean, you've. You're a football lifer. You know how it works that, you know, everyone gets fired. That's just kind of how it works.

[Coach O]

And you. I understand the, the standards. Lsu. Yeah, I get it. I mean, we weren't meeting the standards that we were supposed to meet. Okay, give me $17 million to walk out the door. Good luck. Yeah, I'm still getting paid. LSU people actually say, coach, you mad at lsu? No, I love lsu and I'll do. It was a great opportunity for us and a great time.

[Big Cat]

What. So you, you are an incredible recruiter. Obviously, the recruiting games changed, but do you think, you know, if. If you get back in it, you still got it in terms of getting in the living room and being able to, to win those recruiting battles got even better.

[Coach O]

Okay, I'm fresh. Ready? Yeah. Yeah. That. That's what I love to do. And, you know, it's. It's kind of because of our exposure. Like, I want to speak at the Texas Football Clinic. All the recruits come up to me, you know, hey, Coach, what's up? The mamas, they want to take pictures with me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, I mean, it's just because our notoriety and, you know, because of Joe Burrow and Justin and Jamar, the success that they have, and people know us all over the country.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Now, are you still, like, able to get, you know, put on your, you know, hard hat and your work boots? Like, the time you had to eat, was it five? Five. Five bowls of bison chili at a chili? So what? Tell that story. Because these are my favorite. Like, Coacho will do anything. Get a recruit. He'll just eat the house out of chile if he has.

[Coach O]

So we may have had, I guess you've been in New Orleans. You eat a lot of gumbo, right? So we may have had, I guess, five, six home visits that day. And everywhere I went, they had gumbo for me, right? And I ate. I mean, I must have ate. And look, they fixed me a big bowl. I'm a big eater. I'm going to eat. And it's the last. It's the last home Visit. It's about 9:00 o'clock at night. Okay. And so we get there and the mom says, man, I made some chili. And because I was full, she goes, what's wrong, Coach? You don't like chili? Oh, no, I love chili. I love chili. I love chili. Yeah. So we get it and we eat, and it was actually good. And I said, man, what's in there? I said, bison. Oh, okay. I never ate bison chili in my life. I ate about three or four bowls, man. I went home. You know, my Uncle Pish used to say this. He says, you know, I wear a size 38 pants, but a 40 feels so good, I buy me a 42.

[Big Cat]

Wait, did you say your. What's your uncle's name?

[Coach O]

Uncle Pish.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I thought you said piss. That's a great saying, though. Yeah, we're the 42. Yeah. So. All right, so what other? What other? Great. Because I love hearing the recruiting stories. You getting in there, like, you know, being like, hey, I gotta eat all this or I gotta go out in the back. Did you ever have to go out in the backyard and, like, draw plays and stuff?

[Coach O]

Oh, man. We went to Apu's house in Salt Lake City, and it was us in Alabama. And Apu's a big nose tackle, man. And his father was very, very instrumental middle. His father wanted me to go to Alabama and I knew that. And I had to get in the living room. The alpu is about 3:30, right? And I had to get in the living room and show his father for about 45 minutes every technique and we had every blocking scheme that we had to. Now I got a thighs and I stir me like that. But I'm telling you what, I was getting after it, man. And that won over to dad right there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're just blocking them up, blocking.

[Coach O]

Them up, showing them what we're going to do. And the dad goes, you know, nobody's ever come in my house and do it. I said, I don't think anybody ever will, brother.

[Hank]

Yeah, Coach B told us that. I think he said that the. You got to look at the mom's brothers to see how, how the boy is going to turn out. Like in terms of like how much weight they're going to put on how big of a person. Was there something that you would look at when you went to visit a house to see how the recruit was going to turn out?

[Coach O]

Well, you got to bet on the jeans, right? I mean, I think yo, Lofa Tatupu, okay, who was a great linebacker for us at usc, right? He comes with Moshi, right? Moshe was a great player, great fullback. And me and Peter sitting there and Moshi's in the door and we say, where's Lofa? He goes, here. Lofa was behind him. You couldn't even see Lofa from. He looked small, you know, Great player. We bet on the jeans. Great player. First game against Auburn, that was 23. So Jason Taylor's son, Mason Taylor, who's in Florida, and I knew Jason because a great defensive lineman, studied his long arm, the best that ever been. So he's going to bring Mason over to campus. Now. Derek and I, we always do our homework on people right now, Jason Taylor and Katrina, who is in excellent shape, who is a wonderful lady. When you look at those two guys, those two people, they're going to make some pretty good athletes, right? So we go, Mason Taylor goes to three plays for me. I said offer him a scholarship. Jason goes. Really? Not a school in Florida. Miami, they're still pissed about that. Florida, Florida State offer them. Mason Taylor ended up being maybe one of the best tight ends in LSU history. Yeah, because of the that history that I learned from Jimmy and Pete Battle. The jeans, man.

[Hank]

So what about your recruiting stories when you were coming out of high school. What was that like?

[Coach O]

It was great, man. You know. You know, my dad, My dad was like my coach, you know, man, back then he drink a little whiskey, you know, and I, I had coaches come and I'd be at the house. They, they had going through one or two fifths of vo. It was crazy at the table. But I remember I was going to LSU from the get go. That was it. So the coach from Alabama called and I was talking to me back then, you signed an SEC scholarship and then a national scholarship. He goes, don't sign that scholarship. He didn't make one. He said, I want to bring Bear Bryant to your house. I told my dad, he said, that coach of Alabama wants to bring Bear Bryant. He said, tell that man not to come over here. We're going to lsu.

[Hank]

Did he try. Did he try to do what you would have done, which is like reach out to a brother, reach out to your dad, Try to get a word in?

[Coach O]

No. No.

[Hank]

Just stayed away.

[Coach O]

No. Back then we only had one phone in the house. You going, my dad. My dad would answer the phone. That was it.

[Hank]

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[Coach O]

Yeah. You know, I was a really good player early. Both ways. We made all state. Good player. I love playing defense, but I was a better offensive player. So when I went, you know, that was my strength. Like, you know, you take defensive linemen and move the offense and they put me at center. LSU did. And you know what? That was the best thing for me. But I hate to say it, man. I left LaRose, Louisiana to Baton Rouge is 2 hours, hour and 45 minutes. I got homesick. I'd never been Away from home. I went home. The best thing my father ever did to me. I thought I was going to chill out, you know, go drink a couple beers with my buddies. The next day, hey, you home? Scholar. Uh, knock on my door, six o', clock, let's go to work. What? Yeah, he put me digging ditches, so I'm digging dishes on the side of the road. Now look, you sign with another shoe, you on top of the world. Right? Right. Okay. You quick. You're in the outhouse. Crap. Right? Yeah, they pass it. They passing. They're rolling down their window. I'm digging ditches, you big pussy. You couldn't take it. What the hell you doing? 1. And you know, my dad said, dig. I'll never forget that day. Dig. And then about, about two months later, Bobby Aver called me. We had, y' all had an show. Who's my teammate? Solid food. Say, hey, man, they want you to come up here to Northwestern, give a scholarship. I said, I'm coming. I don't know where it's at, but I'm getting out of this ditch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, getting yelled at on the side of the highway.

[Hank]

I love how you came into the office and you saw Max, our producer, and first thing you said, like you played. What did you say you played? No, no cycle, no stack. Yeah, you do you just size people up like that Always. Do you see them and you can tell, should they be.

[Coach O]

Yo, we, we going down the boardwalk, me and my wife. Yeah, I think I was an athlete. A skinny tail. Look at they got stiff as a board. I'm sure that girl's an athlete. She goes, how you tell that? You know, you just learned the traits and the traits of, you know, we used to put the traits of alignment how you ought to look and all that stuff. Stuff. Just the pictures that I have in my mind. Think about this. One of the best guys we ever recruited at any place was from Chicago. His name was Russell, M.D. was at, at Miami. Russell came in at 350. I think some, some small schools up here recruit recruit him. Russell got down to 285 and was the first player picked in the draft. So I, I, I saw that transition. Cortez, Kenny, Warren Sapp came in as a tight end. We moved the defensive line. So all that, all those stories and everything that happened, we got to put that together at lsu.

[Hank]

What about the Rock? Could you tell the Rock was going to be a superstar?

[Coach O]

I never, I'm so happy that he's doing what he's doing. I love him. His nickname was Dewey a great guy, you know, but look, man, he's playing behind Warren Sapp, okay? So, you know, he's not Warren Sapp's capability, but one day, Bob Cornelis, who's a good friend of mine who passed, recruited Dwayne, and Dwayne was at practice and he had a bad day, man. It just wasn't good. And back then, you know, I was a little vocal. You know, I said, hey, Dwayne, you ought to be a f' ing wrestler like your uncle. He took good advice. I love it.

[Big Cat]

I love it. So you mentioned Jimmy Johnson. You were there when, you know, when Miami was coming. You know, it was. It was great days for him before he goes to the Cowboys. What was it about Jimmy Johnson that made him such a great coach and had everyone so dialed in there?

[Coach O]

Everybody believed in Jimmy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Jimmy was the man.

[Big Cat]

Is that just swagger? Is that just, you know, you know, the results and then people follow the results? What is that?

[Coach O]

Psychologist? Yeah, he used it. He got into you. Everybody drank the. To you. I love them. I love them to that. But let me tell you something. Everybody feared them too, now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And you knew. You knew, hey, you stay within the lines, you cross the line, you going to get it. Yeah, and the players did, too. The players loved him, but they feared them. And practice was fierce. Man, the university of my. When I. I tell people this nowadays, you know, when you go places, you smell the grass. Well, I left. It's been 30 something years I've been in Miami. When I went on, they call it green tree practice for when I smelled the grass. It's the same damn smell I smelled in 1988. And I stepped on that field in 1988 with Jimmy Johnson, Dave Wanstead, Bush Davis, Tommy Tuberville, Gary Stevens, Dave Campbell. And I saw the way they coached. That was it. Nobody had to tell me again. That was my style. That was it. And that was a great, great time for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's some incredible names. What about Pete Carroll? Did. Did players fear Pete? Because I feel like he's more of a player's coach.

[Coach O]

Yeah, well, Pete had everybody drinking the tea, too. Now, you know, everybody believed in Pete, but it was Kumbaya with Pete. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Pete can walk in a room. Everybody feel like they've known Pete for a long time. But the things people don't know. Pete's a strict disciplinarian, and he'll give people a chance to let them think for themselves himself. But he ain't gonna take no crap. And at night, Pete was the best coach. We would go get there at 6, 6:30, we start the film and we watch every film, every piece of practice, and he would critique. I remember one day, man, I love this story. Pete and I were close now, but no favorites, man. I remember my five technique got reached. It was Kenichi of these, and Reggie Bush just went down, busted for about 40 yards. And he looked at me. I sat in the corner right there. What's wrong, Eddie? You can't teach the reach block. What? Looked at him. Okay, Right after we finished filming my Cole Kennchi, he was practicing the Reid's block till midnight. And then I had him in the office at 6 o' clock practicing the damn reach block. Now here's Pete Carroll. You talk about accountability. He's going to find out who you are now. He's going to test you. The next day, we have inside run. We have the same play. Kenichi gets reached. He beats the reach block. He hits the tail back about seven yards deep in the backfield. We go in, there he goes. Hey, Eddie, I repeated that play. I wanted to see if he was going to fix it for me. Thank you. How about that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

That's accountability.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And you know, we held it, everybody to that standard. LSU.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, we had a saying and Greg McMahon was on our staff. We attack people. We attack. Excuse me, we attack problems, not people. And if you do that in the situation, everybody. Everybody signs on and you say, hey, we got this problem here. How are we going to fix it? People can take that, but when you go attack their personality, I think they start shying away from.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's really.

[Hank]

I think sometimes we have a problem with that. What would you do if, like, the problem was one of you guys just played golf all the time and didn't come to work that much? How would you solve that problem?

[Big Cat]

Well, you're not attacking. Not attacking the person, which we sometimes attack the person, but we get.

[Hank]

We got to work out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Well, the first. First of all, we had. We had a set standard. Everybody knew what they were going to do. Now if he's doing this on his off time, good. I mean, I'm not going to tell a grown man what he can do, but if he's doing that on our time, the first time, I'm going to bring him in. That's all. Hey, man, you can't be playing golf here, okay?

[Big Cat]

What. What if the off time and the on time, like, they. It gets blurred where it's like he is doing It. On his off time, but then he's maybe a little tired when he comes in. For the. The.

[Coach O]

Yeah, for the. For the work. Yeah. Well, you know, if his performance is being affected, I would talk to him. But you know what? Here. Here's. Here's where I learned. I don't miss. Okay, look, when you a defensive line coach at the University of Miami and you walk in there, you better be a man. Now, let me say this thing, and Warren's going to hear that, and I love the debt. Warren Sapp thought there was one person on campus that could whip his ass, and that was me. And I'm glad he thought that. Now, I probably couldn't have, but he thought that. Right? Right. You had to walk in there and you had to be a Marine sergeant and not give them no slack, man, because those guys are different. You know what I mean? They just. You got to channel their energy in the right direction, but you can't coach everybody like that. And like at Ole Miss, I'd go and I would chew a coach's butt out in front of the players. Lost it. So now when we went to lsu and they know I get in early in the morning, my notepad, grade every play, walk down. They were waiting for my. They were waiting for me right down the hall. Right there. Hey, Coach, come here on play 13 here. How we gonna fix that left tackle? It goes. Here's the drill I'm gonna do. Here's what we're gonna do with them, and we're gonna get it fixed. It worked out perfect. You know what I'm saying? Instead of blurring out stuff on the field and attacking people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So with. With Pete Carroll, I know that you use some of his stuff that he used to implement at usc. Was it Mondays? Tell the truth. Tell the truth Mondays, Right. What were the other days of the week?

[Coach O]

Tell the truth. Money. Competition Tuesday. Turnover Wednesday. No, repeat. Thursday. Focus Friday. And went on Saturday. All right.

[Hank]

What happens on. Is it turnover Wednesday? Yeah, what happens on turnover Wednesday?

[Coach O]

Well, you know, we focus on. Well, we have third down, which is good, but we have a turnover circuit. We focus on turnovers. You know, we. We compete. Who has. If the office has less than three, they win. If the defense has more than three, they win. And I put it up on the board. Our guys love competition. And, you know, there's another thing I used to do. We used to grade the one on ones. You got to grade the one on ones, man. You got. You got to watch the film. And I used to put the one on one, grades up on the big screen, and everybody would see it. I didn't have to say a word. They would get on each other's butt. Now, look, you got Derek Stanley going against Jamar Chase. You know what I mean? You got Patrick Queen going against Clyde. There was a little there. You got some stuff going on there. Yeah. And they competed for it.

[Hank]

So with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, how did you recruit those guys? First of all, when you didn't have a great quarterback, I feel like that's the easiest way to do it, Right? Like, we got a great quarterback that's going to throw you the ball. Tell me about how you got them on campus, because they're obviously some of the best players in the NFL right now.

[Coach O]

Yes. Well, let's talk about Jamar first. Okay. Jamar, I think get committed to four different schools or something like that. But what happened is, is. And no offense to the other staff. Someone on the other staff before me told Jamar in front of his mother that he has to play cornerback. No way, man. So Ms. Dalia was totally against LSU. So his daddy, Jimmy, who's a great guy, brings jamar to camp. Ms. Delia would come to campus, and she wouldn't say a word. Word. And there you go. You got to recruit the mama. She was the champ. And Jamar was. We kept the best players after. And Jamar was going one on one against an all pro that's in the. In the league today. And he tore him up. And I looked at his daddy and I said, jimmy, Jamar Chase, he was committed to Florida at the time. Jamar Chase is coming to lsu. You. He ain't going anywhere. Over my dead effing body. Jimmy looked at me, you got to get the mama. And one of the best things I. I did, and Derek recommended is. Is hiring Mickey Joseph. Mickey Jones was a great coach, great recruiter. So Mickey did a great job of getting Mr. Leah and recruiting Jamar, and we got him. And one of the things, you know, was gratifying. You know, you go to the green room and you got your guys sitting there, there. And Mr. Leah came up to me. She says, coach, I got to tell you something. Everything that you told me, you did for my son. Thank you. But to answer your question, to get those guys, I told him we were going to the spread, and I told him we're going to get a great quarterback. We have to be a salesman there, because we weren't doing that then.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

Have you ever thought, like, how good of a cornerback he might have been if he had played cornerback.

[Coach O]

Never Jamar Chase.

[Hank]

Pretty good. You never know.

[Coach O]

You're probably right. Pretty good. As soon as his mama didn't want to play quarterback, I didn't even say the word, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

That's crazy to think about it now that he. It was that close for him to be a. To be a college cornerback and then maybe a professional cornerback instead of being possibly the best wide receiver in the NFL right now.

[Coach O]

Yeah, they wanted to play cornerback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coach O]

Quarterback, you know. Now look, Justin Jefferson, right? So his brothers had come to lsu and then you bet on the jeans, right? And Justin had a great, great camp, man. And the coaches liked him a lot. He was only 160 pounds. And I'm good friends with the coach at destroying. Coach Robichaux. And my nickname's Baby. So I go down there, I said, coach, kind of like Justin. He said, baby, he only got a scholarship off Nichols State. He's not going to be. He's not going to be eligible. I said, coach, we got a scholarship for him if he's eligible. He said, let me get working on eligibility. And he did. And he did it the right way. Way. But Justin did not get eligible. Sam Nader did a great job of correspondence course and getting. He got eligible in July, and we kept him a scholarship and he came, he came to campus. And one of the best things that happened to Justin is Jerry Sullivan was with us. And Jerry walked through every route, taught him how to run every route. Now give it to Justin. He did the work. He's the smoothest route run up ever. So. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Incredible.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It is. It is insane to think about, like, these guys on your team and what they're doing in the NFL right now. And they're the best. I mean, it is. It's the conversations, like, who's the best receiver? And two of the guys are LSU guys right up there.

[Coach O]

Yeah. And you know, you know, look at our background. And we knew what we had to do. We knew we had to go to spread, and we knew we could get great receivers in Louisiana. But Joe was the key.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, for him. For us to get a great quarterback and for us to. We developed Joe and he did the work. And Joe Brady comes in. Now, Joe was very smart. I'll give you. I'll give you an example. We, you know, we run into spread. I'm on the head, says, look, man, I'm not going to call offensive play. I never will. You know me, I'll screw it up. Yeah. But Joey told Joey, should have thrown the hot. Should have thrown hot because the nickel was coming from the field. The only time I ever coached up Joe Burrow on football on the field. Hey, Joe, come here. Why you throw the hot? He says, coach, I looked over there as a dirt freshman, he can't catch the ball. So I went to Jamar. Think about that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

The guy snaps the ball, he sees the center, he sees the hot. Now, you know how fast you got to think, and you got to he. Think on your feet. The guy's the best. Best. Look at him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

He is so smart. And the tangibles that he has. Has the leadership, and he's like a general. Look here. All state basketball player, right? Dad's a coach, Mom's a principal of the school. Right. Graduated from Ohio State in three years. Think about all the signs that he had to be a great quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so going into this college football season, if you were coaching a team and I was like, hey, you get any player you want, what quarterback would you want to be coaching?

[Coach O]

Ultraman.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's the real deal.

[Coach O]

No doubt.

[Big Cat]

What makes you say that?

[Coach O]

You know, I had an opportunity to go to Texas and speak to the clinic and speak at their clinic, and I watched practice. Now, we knew Archer Manning as a young kid from Louisiana. He liked Joe Brady. We watched him, but I watched his practice. And I'll say it as conservatively, okay, And Garrett, we recruited Garrett. Garrett's a great player. You know, it's not, you know, they got some great quarterback, but Arch is as close to, or maybe as good. Good as Joe, as I sing.

[Big Cat]

Really?

[Coach O]

And I. I've never said that about anybody.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's.

[Hank]

He's fast, he's athletic. He seems to be really smart.

[Coach O]

Smart?

[Hank]

I guess we haven't seen him compete against the highest. I actually like what Sark did. It might not have been the best idea for the team last year, but he definitely told Quinn Ewers, like, hey, we're bringing Archie in, but I'm gonna stay loyal to you until the end. Like, this is. I'm giving you my word. And then everybody else that's in the building saw that happen when the fans were all asking for Archie.

[Big Cat]

Archie.

[Hank]

I think that's going to end up being a good thing for Sark moving forward.

[Coach O]

You know, it's credibility.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Your players love to trust you. If you tell them something, do it. Yeah.

[Hank]

So what about. What about defense? As a defensive guy yourself, is there a defense in college football right now that you see and you're like, they're doing it the right way.

[Coach O]

I like Ohio State last year. Yeah. I love that defense. I love what they were doing. Bringing the safety down, mixing thing up.

[Hank]

He might be the best player in college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Killed downs, no question. And I love the way they attacked. Their defensive line was phenomenal. What's the. The big white guy. That sack. Had a sack. Fumble.

[Big Cat]

Jack Sawyer.

[Coach O]

Oh, my God. I love the way that boy played football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

I mean, they, they were very, very impressed. You know, on Saturdays now, I live on Miami beach and I'm on that boardwalk and on the beach every day checking out all the sites. You know, my head, my head is always on a swivel, you know, a beautiful sight down there and I love it. But on Saturday, I get up, I get a good workout in the morning, and I'm on that sofa till 10 o' clock in the morning, till I fall asleep. 12, 1 o' clock. And I watch living. I love, watch football as I can. I love it.

[Big Cat]

What coach would you say right now is like, this is the guy that's, you know, we obviously know the Kirby and. And there's some certain guys that are very established, but is there a guy that you're like, this guy, what he's doing, how he's got the program going?

[Coach O]

Well, you know, two guys I work for, you know, I think Atlanta's a great coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, look, I was at Ole Miss. I didn't have any success. And for him to do what he's doing in that school is phenomenal. And I love the coast of Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

I'm good friends with him. I've been there a couple of times. He's a great guy. The players love him. He runs a tough practice. And I'm going to tell you now, Mario Cristobal has done a tremendous job. The talent level at Miami, I've been there for three years and I've been to a bunch of practice. The talent level that he's brought that program to right now is phenomenal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And then Sarkeesian. Sarkees is one of the best offensive minds. He's done a great job. I don't like his play. Call the goal line against Ohio State. I'll say that I'm a go forward guy. No go, go sideways. I think those guys are doing a great job. And the guy in Indiana, I got to give him a daddy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

He was at jmu, so I went to school at jmu and then I saw what he did at that smaller and he Left for Indiana, seemed to. He talks a lot, though. He's not afraid to. To speak his mind. I think he. If I were to imagine what's going on in his head, he knows that Indiana is, you know, a second tier Big Ten school. To get people talking about Indiana, he has to be the one that puts his balls on the table and be willing to wear that. Right.

[Coach O]

Smart selling. Yeah. But you know what? He backs it up. Yeah, he backs it up now. He. And, you know, I. I think as a coach and. And y' all seen that podcast with Pete Carroll? Like me, it's a good one. I'll send it to you guys.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Coach O]

And he talked about, you got. You got to figure out who you are, man, write it down, look at it, put it on paper, and you got to make sure you true to those values and then go with the plan. He said when he first started, he said I wasn't really worth the crap. You know, I was doing this and doing that till I finally got fired enough to write down to figure out who in the hell out that mind. Just like me. I'm going to be me and that's it.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Coach O]

And I'm not getting out my lane. You know what I mean? Now I was just, if I have to, especially with my wife every once in a while. Better than that Ed Oon. That's it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Because when you saw it, obviously you mentioned your time at Ole Miss didn't go so well. That was probably you not being you.

[Coach O]

That's right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Yeah. And you know, I didn't. I didn't know how to be the head coach. I knew how to be a defensive line coach. Look at Ole Miss, my coaches went ice tubs and IVs. The doctor called me, said, hey, it looks like a mass unit in the hospital. He said, can you lay off of the guys? But I didn't know as a head coach, you got to know how to lay off the pedal a little bit. You can't coach the kicker the same way you coach Warren Sapp the quarterback. You can't. You know what I mean? So you got to break every. Everybody. So it was really easier for me to be a head coach and lay off the pedal a little bit and let everybody do their job than being the Hammer and try to do everything.

[Hank]

I can't imagine that you. That you talk to the kickers that much or just words of encouragement.

[Coach O]

Oh, yeah, here's the job. Okay. Get your ass on the sideline and shut up. All right? And when you called on get out there and make death and kick. Yeah. Come back and get on the sideline line and shut up again.

[Hank]

That's good advice. I mean, that would be the best kicker of all time, right?

[Coach O]

That's right.

[Hank]

What about. We've seen a lot of coaches, especially some of the older guys, that in the last couple years, the game's changed a little bit. Recruiting's change, the portal, all that stuff they've kind of said, all right, that's enough for me. It's. It's changed so much. I don't feel like I want to stick around for this next era of college football. If you're coming back, I feel like you're. You're a great hire because you. You're always going to be a good recruiter. And now it feels like there's more people than ever who are saying, yes, I'd like to be recruited. Even players that are, you know, at a school right now. You think you could. You could adapt to that environment?

[Coach O]

No question. No question. You have to. I told my kids, you have to do it. Now, there's. Is there some things that I disagree with maybe? Yeah. I think players ought to be paid. I'm all for that. You know what I'm saying? But I think the transfer portal and you being here and you getting paid and you leaving, and I think there needs to be a little bit more loyalty. But look, whoever adapts and adjusts and maneuvers through the system is going to win. So I want to win, so I'll adapt and adjust.

[Hank]

Yeah, I believe it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

All right.

[Big Cat]

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[Coach O]

Take.

[Big Cat]

I know you're a robot guy as well.

[Coach O]

What?

[Big Cat]

Tell us your. Your number one. I can't believe I got that guy. Recruiting story, like, the guy that you're like. I look back, I'm like, man, I did it all. I hit all the O buttons. I. I did. I did the thing.

[Coach O]

You know, I gotta say, you know, there's a lot of. But Reggie Bush.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know, Reggie. Reggie was going in northern name or Washington or something like that, but we didn't have a good connection with him for some reason. And I was the recruiting coordinator. I wasn't recruiting that area. I wasn't recruiting the running back, but I kind of felt that we were losing ground with Reggie, so I called his dad, and I said, hey, man. And we were practicing for the Bowl, Orange bowl against Iowa, and I called his dad. Hey, man, can I buy you a steak this week? Weekend? Y' all doing anything? Bring your wife, bring Reggie. Come on, man. It's just gonna be us. Coach Carroll, the staff, y' all can spend the weekend with her. He said, coach, I'm coming. They came. It was just Reggie. We had a great weekend. Then all of a sudden, you know, we go to Iowa. I mean, we go to Orange bowl, we play Iowa. It's a tough game. Orange bowl, we win. Me and Coach Carroll working. We call in recruits after the game, and coach gets a call. He said, it's Reggie. He said, coach, I watch y' all play. I want to be a Trojan. Wow. Just like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know what I'm saying? And one of the greatest players I ever met.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Was that always weird, though? Like, going from, like, winning a big game and then being like, well, I have to get right back to work. I have to use this big game to then go and call people.

[Coach O]

Yes. When you win, that's when you want to do it.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Coach O]

Right. Man, I remember we. Our first year, we went to the Las Vegas bowl, and we lost. Okay. At usc, and we lost Utah, I think, something like that. And I was coming home. We drove home. Everybody's down in the dirt. I said, coach. Yeah, Eddie. I said, hey, let's meet in the office, man. Let's go call recruits. He was like, okay. And that's the best thing we ever did that night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

You know what I mean? We got the taste out of our mouth. Out. We called the recruits. And then you use as a tool. Say, man, you saw the game. We need you to come in and play for us. Right there.

[Big Cat]

Be the fix.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

And you got it right fresh. And then you get that stuff out of your mind. You go into road recruiting, and we end up signing a great class. So it works both ways.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

Are you.

[Hank]

Are you still spending time with Ray Baker?

[Coach O]

Me and Ray. Now, look, there's a time in my life I thought about this with y' all guys. There was a time in my life I'd whoop Ray Baker's ass. You know? Hear me?

[Hank]

And by the way, Ray Baker is the son.

[Coach O]

He's the son.

[Big Cat]

You name.

[Hank]

You name the son.

[Coach O]

Ray Baker. He's the son.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

But can I tell you the story about R. Baker? Yeah. Okay, so we had Northwestern State University, right. And back then, you know, practices are not the Same. But back then we, we, you know, we going. And Bobby will tell you, we going like 30 days straight a camp, man, it's just grinding, you know, and it's a Saturday and we're on the turf, it's hot. And back then we huddled. Right, Right. Freeman Thomas was my buddy. About 511, 330. That's a big pads on big guy, man. And baby. Yeah. Ray Baker gonna get us today, man. I look in the huddle on offense. We ain't got nobody named Ray Baker on the team. He goes, uhuh. Look up there. Them reds gonna bake our ass today, baby. And ever since then, for my friend Freeman Thomas, I've been called the son. Ray Baker.

[Big Cat]

Ray Baker. Hey. What do you bench? Do you still bench?

[Coach O]

You know what? I'm going to tell you all the truth. I haven't benched since lsu. I tore boat rotator cuffs and it still kills me. It's not. I work out every day. Yes. But I never wanted to get my rotator cuffs fixed because I couldn't see myself in a sling for six months. So yeah, to answer that, the bench press is out. But if I could. Hell yeah. 315. I'm not going to get up and buckle my pants if I can't be 350.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Coach O]

Healthy. No way.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Coach O]

I ain't doing it.

[Hank]

I think you could. Even with the torn rotator. Go.

[Coach O]

What about.

[Hank]

You're running. Running. Every day.

[Coach O]

Every day. Every day.

[Hank]

Do you do squats anymore?

[Coach O]

Every day. Yeah, I still squat.

[Hank]

What are we squatting these days?

[Coach O]

Yeah. You know, I don't go heaven now. I got to be honest.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Coach O]

I don't go heavy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But still squatting, I mean, six or four years old. Yeah.

[Coach O]

Ready to go.

[Big Cat]

There's not a lot of people who.

[Coach O]

I'm in good shape. I'm ready to go. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ask the grass.

[Coach O]

What was that?

[Big Cat]

You're going all the way. Ask the grass. All the way down.

[Coach O]

Oh, well, I don't parallel. Let's go. Okay. All right.

[Hank]

That's fine.

[Coach O]

Parallel.

[Hank]

I would recruit you right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

As I. I would like you to coach at my school. I hope that there's somebody out there listening that says we are. If our defense needs a shot in the arm, let's bring in coacho this year.

[Coach O]

Yeah, it'll be good. Yeah. But we'll see after the season what happens. And the best thing's always going to work out. It always does.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well just know that we are massive fans of you and you've always been great to us. And like I said at the start of it, you can't. You know, we're writing a book now. Ten years, so we've been doing like, a little trip down memory lane and getting nostalgic and, like, your. Your friendship to us and being so welcoming for us to come into the LSU program to see one of the best college teams of all time up close and personal, like, that's big for us. You know what I mean? That's a big part of how we got to where we were going.

[Hank]

And it was also just a hell of a time to.

[Big Cat]

Hell of a time.

[Hank]

Yeah, it was great to be around that team, but it was.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we can't thank you enough because those are the ones. When you look back, it's kind of fun doing this expert. You know, this experience of writing a book where we look back and we're like, oh, yeah, if that hadn't happened, if that hadn't happened, if that person wasn't cool with us, it might have gone different.

[Coach O]

And you.

[Big Cat]

And you're. You're in that list, so.

[Coach O]

Well, I thank you for saying that. But you know what? Immediately when I met y', all, I. I tell my wife, I can tell the person in the first 30 seconds, and I knew y' all were winners and I knew y' all good. Guys, man, you speak from the heart. You all who you are, and look at the success you have. So congratulations to y', all. And if I can never help, I'm there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, you're gonna have to write a chapter.

[Coach O]

I will be. Okay. Okay, Good, good, good. I need somebody to help me, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's fine. We'll put it together, like out a.

[Hank]

Chapter, like the binders.

[Big Cat]

We got a ghostwriter. He'll call you, you just say a couple stories and then he'll write it. And that's all you got to do.

[Hank]

That's the secret of writing a book, is you just ask all your friends to write part of the book for you.

[Coach O]

Yeah. All right, Coach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you're the best. Great to see you.

[Coach O]

Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys. Thanks, coach.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Very cool guy. Arizonan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Give us a little. Give us a little background, Colton. Give us. Give us a little something.

[Colton]

Yeah. I am an Arizonan, as you said. I'm very, very stoked to be here. I'm gonna try and live up to the hype that Pug has built. I hope he's having fun on his honeymoon right now. But, yeah, I come from a pranking background.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Colton]

New to podcasts, so.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what? What?

[Colton]

I come from the world.

[Coach O]

Oh, yeah?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach O]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was like. I was like, dude, were you raised on pranks?

[Colton]

Kind of. I. I did a few pranks in my day.

[Hank]

What was the best prank?

[Colton]

Oh, man, my first one went super viral. I went around asking kids where the G spot was. Tough to explain. I did a blow.

[Big Cat]

No, that's not tough to explain.

[Colton]

I did a blind rollerblader prank one time that turned out pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

What was the name of your friend that Danny Conrad pranked you with?

[Colton]

Oh, Zane Galpin.

[Coach O]

Yes. So pissed.

[Colton]

Powerful, man.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You don't know. You don't want to fuck with Zane.

[Colton]

Not at all.

[Big Cat]

All right. You are a vibes guy, so.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You got a lot of tattoos. You wear oversized shirts. You're from Arizona. Like, you're cooler than all of us.

[Coach O]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

That's a fact.

[Colton]

That's what I'm going for.

[Big Cat]

What teams you root for?

[Colton]

All Arizona. Unfortunately, there's.

[Coach O]

Right.

[Colton]

Hey, Kevin Durant.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You blame. Do you blame Kevin Durant?

[Coach O]

He is.

[Colton]

Yes. Him and the spurs are the main reasons for the downfall of the sun.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, the Spurs.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Spurs were. That was Bad day. Yeah.

[Colton]

Yeah, that's me. Stoked to be here.

[Coach O]

Clocks look great. Thanks.

[Big Cat]

Just using the word stoked just upped the coolness of this podcast.

[Hank]

How many different extreme sports have you played?

[Colton]

Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

Four. Okay.

[Colton]

Like an extreme sports. Like action. Like I. Snowboarding.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Colton]

Motocross.

[Hank]

Motocross. Zach's. We already got a motocross guy.

[Colton]

I so jealous of that Travis Pastrana jump. That was. That was crazy. Yeah, probably four.

[Hank]

Did you freak out when you saw the orange hat?

[Colton]

Yes, I asked him all about it. I shook his hand. Travis shook. Really jealous, but very, very deserving guy. I don't know if I'd have the guts to do that.

[Big Cat]

I think the best way to explain Colton to our audience is when we played. We played pickup here at Barstool hq. Chicago hq. And the first time we played pickup, he was wearing a full.

[Memes]

That was his first day in the office.

[Big Cat]

First day in the office. Played pickup in a Randy Johnson Diamondbacks.

[Hank]

Jersey.

[Memes]

In a leg.

[Hank]

Sleeve.

[Coach O]

Sleeve.

[Colton]

Shout out Randy.

[Big Cat]

Randy Johnson baseball jersey.

[Coach O]

Crazy.

[Big Cat]

Just shooting some hoops.

[Colton]

3 XL.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Wait, are you in Arizona guy or Arizona State?

[Colton]

Northern Arizona, actually. But ASU was my. I. I root for them harder than U of A.

[Big Cat]

Okay. And what size shirt are you wearing right now?

[Colton]

Just 2x. I had to start out with something, like.

[Big Cat]

Because you're not a 2x. No, I.

[Colton]

My mom says I'm a large. She says that I have a lot of potential to be handsome if I would just wear large clothing.

[Hank]

But you do wear large clothing? Clothing, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Extra large.

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Colton]

My. My go to is a 2x tall.

[Big Cat]

All right, so are we gonna see maybe like a 3 or 4x in these next two weeks?

[Colton]

Yeah, I just got a new forex Alvin Kamara shirt I'm really hyped on, so I'll be breaking that out soon. Keep your eyes peeled.

[Big Cat]

I cannot wait to see that. I'm very excited. All right, let's do it. Numbers three, 22.

[Zach]

Oh, my mic was.

[Hank]

Oh, no. I hope Colton gets it first. Holding. Choose.

[Big Cat]

Choose wisely, Colton, go ahead.

[Colton]

I'm going with 10.

[Hank]

All right, good pick. I'm gonna go with.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna go 85, 42, 99 memes.

[Hank]

Oh, 26 memes. You're a piece of.

[Big Cat]

I said it.

[Hank]

16. That's Jack taking nine. 17.

[Big Cat]

That was shame.

[Zach]

I said it like, a full second before you said it too.

[Hank]

That's check the mics.

[Big Cat]

That looks like 96. 96.

[Coach O]

Sorry. Are you sure that's not 99?

[Big Cat]

That's 96.

[Hank]

Go check.

[Big Cat]

That's 96.

[Hank]

You want to check?

[Coach O]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You want to check? It's 96.

[Hank]

I can zoom in. That's 96 memes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's 96. 96.

[Big Cat]

Don't say wait.

[Hank]

96. Official. Official ruling. 96.

[Big Cat]

Couldn't be more 96. That's not so close.

[Coach O]

Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

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