DeAndre Hopkins, Shedeur In The Pro Bowl, Belichick Snubbed For Hall of Fame, Zac’s Stream List + FAQ’s

Summary

PARDON MY TAKE – EPISODE SUMMARY

Podcast: Pardon My Take
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Episode: DeAndre Hopkins, Shedeur In The Pro Bowl, Belichick Snubbed For Hall of Fame, Zac’s Stream List + FAQ’s
Date: January 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Pardon My Take" brings the classic PMT crew together for commentary on the biggest sports stories of the week, including:

• The chaos of NFL coaching searches (Browns, Eagles),
• The much-lampooned selection of Shedeur Sanders to the Pro Bowl,
• Bill Belichick’s shocking Hall of Fame snub at the hands of Bill Polian,
• Zac’s first draft of ideas for a grueling upcoming 36-hour stream,
• And a wide-ranging interview with NFL great DeAndre Hopkins.
  As always, the episode is laced with PMT’s irreverent humor, listener interaction, plenty of inside jokes, and a strong “football guy” energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coaching Carousel & Pro Bowl Absurdity

(00:00–15:30)

• Browns' Coaching Woes:

  • Nobody wants to coach the Cleveland Browns despite "a Pro Bowl QB," leading to speculation that the job’s on-field and off-field issues (ownership, forced staff) make it toxic.
    • “Why, oh why will no one take the Cleveland Browns job knowing that you have a Pro Bowl quarterback?” – Big Cat [01:47]
  • Jim Schwartz could become Head Coach by default; being forced to keep him as DC is considered a dealbreaker for many candidates.
    • “Come take the Cleveland Browns job. Oh, by the way, we have an interim head coach waiting for you to fuck up.” – Big Cat [08:11]

• Shedeur Sanders’ Controversial Pro Bowl Selection:

  • Shedeur makes the Pro Bowl as an alternate despite underwhelming stats, which PMT sees as proof the selection process is now a joke.
    • “The Pro Bowl, if you’ve been paying any attention, has not meant anything for a really long time now. This is the final nail in the coffin.” – Big Cat [03:20]
  • The hosts riff on how this further diminishes the value of “Pro Bowler” as a credential.
    • “Next year, when Shedor has a bad game—Pro Bowler.” – Big Cat [06:31]

• Eagles' OC Search:

  • Philadelphia can’t fill their coordinator role, with musings about why (Sirianni? Jalen Hurts? The city itself?).
  • Some tongue-in-cheek vetting of coaching candidates (“He looks kind of like a cop.” – [12:38]).

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2. NFL Playoff & Coaching Analysis

(15:31–28:34)

• Game Recap Takeaways:
  • Regret and debate over Sean Payton's infamous 4th-and-1 call (Should the Broncos have just kicked? Did conditions play a role?).
  • Appreciation of weather-impacted playoff football as part of the sport’s unique intensity—even at the risk of ugly games.
    • "There will be a day in 10–15 years where 90% of the league is in a dome. I think that will suck." – Big Cat [19:00]
• Cooper Kupp "Elevator Story":
  • Revisiting a viral altercation between Rams and Seahawks coaches in an elevator at halftime, and how it became a rallying point for the Rams.
    • “They used it at halftime as a rallying cry. Cooper Kupp...this is a redemptive arc for Cooper Kupp in this Super Bowl.” – Big Cat [21:04]
• Shanahan Coaching Tree and Special Teams Woes:
  • Data reveals Rams, 49ers, and Packers are all bottom of the league in Special Teams EPA—the “Shanahan family curse.”
    • “The Shanahan coaching tree just doesn’t give a fuck about special teams and it bites them in the ass.” – Big Cat [22:20]

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3. Super Bowl Preview, Betting Antics & Listener Drama

(28:35–46:00)

• Super Bowl Handicapping: Patriots vs. Seahawks

  • Heated, comic argument about which side has the edge—coaching experience (Patriots' Vrabel & McDaniels) vs. coaching talent (Seahawks' McDonald).
  • Hank and PFT renegotiate an escalating “double or nothing” Super Bowl bet, landing on a high-stakes $40,000 wager.
    • “I gotta be honest, Big Cat, I would gladly pay $40,000 for a Patriots Super Bowl loss. That’s how I’m looking at it.” – PFT [38:12]

• Belichick Hall of Fame Snub

  • The news breaks in real time: Bill Belichick will not be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, allegedly due to Bill Polian’s lobbying.
    • “Bill Polian has kept Bill Belichick out of the Hall of Fame as a first-ballot Hall of Famer in one of the biggest hater moves of all time.” – Big Cat [42:20]
  • This is declared an enormous insult and “unites all of sports media behind Belichick.”
  • Conspiracy theories swirl; later Bill Polian denies leading the anti-Belichick campaign.
    • “The plot thickens. Either Bill Polian is the biggest coward in the world, or there’s a deep-state plot.” – PFT [48:54]
  • Call for transparency (“televise the Hall of Fame vote!”), encouragement to email tips, and jokes about Patriots fans storming Canton.

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4. Zac’s 36-Hour Stream: The Idea List

(56:57–71:10)

• Zac presents a collection of wild and goofy activities for his upcoming 36-hour punishment stream (Max, as 2nd place, is forced to do 18 hours).

• Suggestions include:

  • Running a 10k inside the studio (over 10,000 tiny laps)
  • Spooky Booth (Ouija board session)
  • Chained Together video games
  • “Itch Golf” (playing golf while literally itchy)
  • Keepy-uppy balloons with weighted vests
  • Writing a children’s book called “Sleep Tight Saquon”
  • Karaoke while eating yogurt (“Yo-Yolk Karaoke”)
  • Charades, Pac Man with cheese puffs, sassy Lego builds, “Memo Men” (covering in Post-Its), brisket making, and many more

• Every idea is discussed and riffed on, with the crew tossing out taglines and tweaks (“tickle golf”, “wine and whine” painting, “puffman”).

  • “The last hour being Brisket Boys, we all join in and just do brisket boys.” – Big Cat [74:49]

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5. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

(77:10–92:56)

• Hot Seat Highlights:

  • Pro Bowl’s reputation, pocket-watchers (Alex Honnold only paid $500k for his climb)
  • Sam Schwartzstein, roasted by a Truth Social post (via Trump) about the new NFL kickoff being less “big time”

• Cool Throne Highlights:

  • PFT is officially taller than Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia (“five-nine and seven-eighths”).
  • Sydney Sweeney’s new bra line (leading to a protracted, pervy riff on bras and sports mascots, e.g., Benny the Bull).
  • Brisket and ice cream–the latter now (allegedly) proven by Ivy League studies to be “the healthiest food.”

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6. DeAndre Hopkins Interview

(94:55–133:36)

Topics Covered:

• NOT retiring, still averaging 15 yards/catch
  • “I averaged 15 yards a catch last year, man. I ain’t retiring off that.” [95:22]
• On Lamar Jackson: “Lamar is the sole reason I went to Baltimore…he talks to everyone in the building.” [96:40]
• Freshness of missing the playoffs:
  • “That shit’s still fresh in my head…it still sucks.” [97:35]
• What makes Mike Vrabel special as a coach:
  • “He’ll get down in the dirt with you … not a lot of coaches will actually get down and put on the pads.” [98:28]
• Hating the Steelers: “It didn’t take me long. Especially once we started off 1 and 5, I was like, I hope Pittsburgh loses every game.” [100:24]
• Dabo Swinney: Both “corny” and demanding the best, will “curse you out like the old Alabama football coaches.” [102:40]
• Iconic stories about playing for the Texans (with/against Andre Johnson, catch that never counted, catching TD passes from a comical array of QBs).
• Super Bowl week compared to regular season: “It felt like a regular week, just…the streets going outside, everything is Super Bowl this, Super Bowl that.” [113:15]
• Defensive back breakdown: Praises Jalen Ramsey and Christian Gonzalez as especially tough matchups.
• Enjoys watching Terry McLaurin (“Scary Terry”), a “contested catch machine…doesn’t get enough credit.” [117:11]
• What happens at the Met Gala? “People hanging out, eating food, and then there’s a concert. That’s it.”
• Nickname “Nuke” came from chewing up pacifiers as a baby; says, “I used to tell everyone they called me Nuke because I’m the bomb.” [132:18]

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7. FAQs and Grab Bag

(135:45–143:29)

• Listener questions about booth smell, Super Bowl pain (is it better to be blown out or to not make it at all), and gross party etiquette (what to do if you clog a toilet with no plunger—“I’ve used my hand in a trash bag.” – Big Cat [138:11])
• Team party stories; aging out of big Super Bowl parties.
• Wager talk – Hank and PFT joke/argue about hypothetical future Super Bowls and the pain of losing big.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Shedeur Sanders making the Pro Bowl:
  “Next year, when Shedor has a bad game—Pro Bowler.” – Big Cat [06:31]
• Pro Bowl as mockery:
  “Pro Bowler Shador Sanders or Pro Bowler Deshaun Watson—it’s almost like an embarrassment of riches.” – Big Cat [09:14]
• On Mike Vrabel as a coach “He’ll get down in the dirt with you, block you, try to run around on you at practice—there aren’t a lot of coaches that will actually get down and put on the pads.” – DeAndre Hopkins [98:28]
• Hall of Fame voting transparency:
  “Televising the Hall of Fame vote—tell me that wouldn’t do great ratings!” – Big Cat [44:22]
• Betting bravado:
  “I would gladly pay $40,000 for a Patriots Super Bowl loss. That’s how I’m looking at it.” – PFT [38:12]
• On Dabo Swinney:
  “He’s a religious man, but on Saturdays, all that goes out the window…he will curse you out like the old Alabama football coaches.” – DeAndre Hopkins [102:40]
• Sweeney’s bra line:
  “Sydney Sweeney’s getting into the bra game and it’s over. It’s a wrap.” – Big Cat [86:34]
• Great catch that didn't count:
  “That ref basically saying, you’re too good for me to be able to officiate this properly.” – Big Cat [108:23]

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Highlighted Timestamps

• Shedeur Sanders, Pro Bowl discussion — 02:47–06:37
• Browns coaching “poison pill” — 07:44–09:12
• Super Bowl bet negotiation (PFT & Hank) — 36:01–39:03
• Belichick Hall of Fame snub coverage — 42:20–51:56
• Zac’s stream idea list (comedy gold) — 57:42–75:00
• DeAndre Hopkins interview (career stories, NFL insights) — 94:55–133:36
• Sydney Sweeney/bra riff, Benny the Bull — 86:34–88:44
• Is it better to not make the SB, or to get blown out? — 140:50–143:29

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Tone & Style

The episode is high-energy, self-aware, and packed with goofball tangents, but beneath the schtick is insight about football, media, and sports culture. The hosts’ rapport, willingness to mercilessly rib each other, and the interactive, evolving nature of the show (real-time news, live emails/jokes among crew) make it engaging and enjoyable even for new listeners.

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For Listeners Who Missed It:

You’ll get:

• Hilarious analysis of how the Pro Bowl and Hall of Fame have become parodies.
• Candid NFL locker-room stories from DeAndre Hopkins (including career highlights, shoutouts to teammates and coaches, and reflections on high/low moments)
• A comically detailed, self-roasting brainstorm session for the most over-the-top sports punishment stream in podcast history.
• Real talk about (and jokes surrounding) betting, fandom, football pain, and the oddities of sports media.
• Classic PMT bits—inside jokes, out-of-nowhere rants about supermodels, mascots, and party etiquette.

This was a classic, wide-ranging sports pod episode: unpredictable, unfiltered, and full of laughs.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

It seems like it's A tailor made job for success. Shador made the Pro Bowl. What else do you. Hot young talent. I want to know how Shador found out that he made the Pro Bowl. Because usually the coach calls you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the Browns don't have a coach. I was hoping that maybe Jeff Ulbricht's son had to give him a call and let him know. As punishment.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

For what he did during the draft. This might be what kills the Pro Bowl. Yeah, we've been. We've been begging for the Pro bowl to die. It's. It's been on life support and it's been time to pull the plug for a while. And maybe the fact that Shador made it, that. That should be the end of the line.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So Shador Sanders. Yes. The Pro Bowl. I love this for the discourse. I love how mad people are getting. Because the Pro bowl, if you've been paying any attention, has not meant anything for a really long time now. And this is the final nail in the Coffin. Shador had 1400 yards, 7 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, and an 18.9 QBR. He makes it as an alternate because Drake May's in the Super Bowl. Josh Allen's hurt. Who else is. Who else is on the list? Lamar's hurt.

[B]

I went through the list and Herbert's hurt. Aaron Rodgers is old.

[A]

Trevor Lawrence didn't get asked.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's not.

[A]

That must have gotten asked.

[B]

He must have turned it down. Cause I went through the list in my head and it's like Bo Nicks is hurt. Geno would probably be one that did not get asked.

[A]

Which, by the way, we. When we did our losers on Monday, we forgot Geno Smith. Again, loser is a relative term because he plays professional football and he's a quarterback and he's made a ton of money. But Geno Smith got traded from the Seahawks and they immediately went to the super bowl and the team he went to got the number one pick. Yeah, that's as brutal as it gets. There's one common denominator between the Seahawks and Raiders for it to be potentially the best team and the worst team. And it's Geno Smith.

[B]

I would say maybe Pete Carroll. Yeah, he would be on that list too. But again, Pete Carroll never coached for the Raiders, so we don't have to talk about that. But yeah, I went through the list of every AFC quarterback yesterday and I feel like Gino is the one that did not get asked. Dylan Gabriel did not get asked. Brady Cook probably did not get asked.

[A]

What's the guy from Tua.

[B]

Do you think Tua turned it down? That's the real question.

[A]

Tua probably didn't get asked. Who was the guy? Oladunka.

[B]

Ola Dukai?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, He. He probably did not get asked either.

[A]

Flacco should have made it.

[B]

CJ Stroud should have made it.

[A]

She. CJ Shroud definitely should have made it.

[D]

Phil Rivers should have made it.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I think all these guys might have turned it down.

[A]

Yeah. Daniel Jones. I think he's injured, so obviously turned it out, but, yeah, it's.

[B]

What do you think? Cam Ward. Cam Ward should have made it ahead of Shador.

[A]

Absolutely. It's so funny, though. It is, because it really is. If they were intentionally trying to kill the Pro bowl, mission accomplished. I saw Sean Merriman, which, like, I didn't really think about this effect, but it kind of is the truth. He. He tweeted. I have a Pro bowl helmet that I walk by almost every day. It's signed by some of the best players in the history of the NFL. Legends, hall of Famers, and real goats. The Pro bowl used to be a badge of honor and respected. Things have changed for guys who made the Pro bowl and when they get introduced as 3, 4, 5 time Pro Bowler, this probably does hurt for everyone else. It's just very, very funny.

[B]

Yeah. And let's not act like the Pro bowl was a great game, because it never really was. It used to be better than it was at the very end when it was just obviously guys not trying to tackle and get hurt, which I also understand if you're in that game. But, I mean, you talk to anybody that played in the Pro bowl in the 90s, 2000, for the most part, it's like, yeah, we were in Hawaii. We were drunk during that game, which is. That might be a better version is just do a drunk football game.

[A]

Drunk Case race before the football game.

[B]

I would. I would enjoy watching that. Yeah. Case race, flag football game. That sounds like a great time.

[E]

But it.

[A]

It is just great, though, because no matter what, next year, when Shador. If Shador has a bad game. Pro Bowler.

[B]

Pro Bowler.

[A]

Hey, that's a Pro Bowler, right?

[B]

They'll never take that away from him.

[D]

Pro Bowler.

[A]

Yeah. What if you can't. If you can't love my. My Pro Bowler at my Pro bowl game, at Tyler Huntley, you don't deserve it. At Shador Sanders. Yeah, that's where we're at. The. The Browns thing, though, is weird because it looks like we're going to get the Head Nipples in Chief. Jim Schwartz back in as a head coach. No one else wants it. Everyone's just basically pulling out. I do have a theory that Kyle Long actually text me about last night, and he's spot on. This Steel Chase. We've got it. We've got another Tyler Schuck situation. What do you mean his name is impossible? I read it every time. I read it as Steel Chase, then it's Shield House. Then it's like, I. His name is confusing.

[B]

It's hard.

[A]

Should be Steel Chase.

[B]

It's hard. It's hard to. To. To read. But when you hear Shieldhouse, you just think, like, Brick House.

[A]

Yeah, but it's hard to read.

[B]

It's a badass name. Very hard to read. I don't know what the Browns are going to do. It does feel like Jim Schwartz is a guy, mostly because if they don't hire him as the head coach, they'll lose him as the D.C. well, which is a real problem because that's obviously the strength of the Browns.

[A]

I think that's actually what's making everyone pull out, is Jimmy Haslam is like, if we hire you, Jim Schwartz is our dc and every guy is like, I don't want to come. Which totally understand. I don't want to come into a job where you have appointed me a DC who's very good at defensive coordinating, but you're essentially saying, if things go wrong, he's going to be the head coach. You have. You're like, hey, come take the Cleveland Browns job. Oh, just. By the way, we have an interim head coach waiting for you to fuck up.

[B]

Right. It's like, you've got a great house, a perfect house, and a shield house. Shield House. And you just need to. You need to replace the deck on it. And then if that person comes in, the deck isn't what you thought, then you're like, well, this whole house is fucked up. I'll just hire the guy that built the rest of it.

[D]

Right?

[B]

So it's. Listen, I like. I like Jim Schwartz as a DC did not work out as a head coach for him, but he was in a tough situation there. Detroit. Right. He was the Lions head coach, and not many people have ever succeeded at doing that. So maybe you grade that on a curve a little bit. But the most important thing with Jim Schwartz is that his name is Jim Schwartz, which I don't think we talk about enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we have a man named Jim Schwartz that's coaching professional football. We should be mentioning that almost every single day. I don't know who's going to coach the Browns. I don't know who's going to want to coach the Browns. I don't know what haslam has in store for the quarterback situation because that feels like it's a major question mark. You've got. You're going to be saddled with one of two guys, either Pro Bowler Shador Sanders or Pro Bowler DeSean Watson or.

[A]

Pro bowl alternate Dylan Gabriel.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You have to imagine he's an alternate.

[B]

Almost like an embarrassment of riches there.

[A]

So what if she door lights it up in the Pro Bowl?

[B]

He probably will.

[A]

Yeah, he probably will because he'll probably.

[B]

Run the play that we call for him.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know what's the Taylor Swift song? I'm. It's me. I'm the problem. It's me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that it?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm the problem. It's me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was my moment when, when the Jim Schwartz news was kind of, you know, bubbling up on Monday night and I was like, oh, shit, like we're going to get his nipples back. And I went to find a picture of Jim Schwartz's nipples and all the Google results were just me talking about Jim Schwartz's nipples, which is not fair.

[B]

Because he does objectively. The man's got rock hard nipples, dude.

[A]

He's got fucking diamond cutters. Okay, That' a fact. But yeah, I kind of maybe made that bigger in my head. It's just like the first result was just me talking to, asking Chris Long, hey, what do. What's. What's up with Jim Schwartz's nipples? Is this another, like, what are you talking about?

[B]

Is this another moment where you see a hot guy at the, at the tailgate? Yeah. And then you keep talking about that and you see Jim Schwartz's nipples one time and you're like, yeah, that's the guy with the big nipples.

[A]

Yeah. There it is. Me asking you, how are Jim Schwartz's nipples doing? That's what I asked Chris Long.

[B]

They do pop. They do.

[A]

They pop. So listen, Cleveland Browns fans, I know you're not feeling really awesome right now. Nipples.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You just know that you're in. You got nipples in charge. Now the other one. That's weird because the Browns, their quarterback situation is a mess. Their ownership, if you're up and coming head coach, you're like, hey, what's the ownership situation going to be like? All these things come into question. The Philadelphia Eagles can't find an offensive coordinator and that seems like a pretty good job.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is it? Is it not wanting to play in Philadelphia, is it not wanting to work for Nick Sirianni, is it not wanting to have Jalen Hurts as your quarterback? What is it, Max?

[D]

I'm not in the. I'm not in the meetings, all right? No one in this room is in the meetings, so no one knows what's going on and why we can't find a guy.

[A]

All right, maybe so.

[D]

I'm not going to sit over here and speculate on something that, I don't.

[B]

Know, maybe it's a little. Little turnaround. So maybe, you know, in the past, the Eagles have made the super bowl and people have immediately hired your coordinators out from under you. Maybe you're waiting for the super bowl to be over so you can hire somebody from the Patriots or the Seahawks.

[D]

No, what happens is when we don't make the super bowl, we hire someone good, and then they get. They just automatically get a head coaching job.

[A]

But it feels like we've broken that. That chain, you know, that's.

[D]

You don't know that.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Someone's going to be the offensive coordinator, and we're not going to know until after next year if they're.

[B]

If they're going to be a head coach. We're right at that stage in the life cycle where you're about to hire the guy that's going to get hired away from you next year.

[D]

And we're looking at this guy from the Packers.

[C]

Who.

[A]

He.

[D]

He's a guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Go on game.

[D]

Used to be a quarterback. I just pulled this up.

[A]

Okay, that's good. Keep going.

[B]

Played football.

[D]

He played football. He's a quarterbacks coach of the Packers.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

This guy. Okay, you're telling me this guy.

[A]

Sean Manion, Oregon State.

[D]

Yup. You're telling me that guy doesn't look like a good candidate for the Eagles. O.C.

[B]

It'S Kate's brother. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at that.

[D]

Come on, now. That's a good candidate.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[E]

That guy looks like he would file police reports of his. His house got egged. He would cry. That's.

[D]

That's a football guy right there.

[B]

He looks kind of like a cop.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

It would be kind of funny to, like, in the interview, just throw an egg at him and just be like, how do you deal with this?

[E]

Yeah, someone come in. Be like.

[C]

Sir.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Hey, sir, report your.

[A]

Your. Your child was just booed on the way to kindergarten class. Do you have anything to say about this?

[B]

This guy looks like he could be an Eagle.

[D]

Yeah, that could be.

[B]

That could be the guy.

[A]

How close do you think we are to maybe just promoting from within like a Kevin Petullo?

[D]

There's the, there's the quarterbacks coach, the Bowling Green guy that, you know, what name you know. I, I, I stated weeks ago that I don't care that I've opted out on this. As soon as Dable and McDaniel were gone, it was like, I don't know anything I don't know shit about. So let those guys figure it out and just hope that the offense is better next year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if you look at the quarterbacks coaches for the Patriots, you've got Ashton Grant, 29 years old. You've got Andrew Janako, Andrew Jonacco from the Seahawks. That sounds like a Philly name to me.

[A]

Can I throw out a name that maybe has misplayed his hand a little bit?

[D]

Matt Nagy that he's in, he's in conversations.

[A]

Yeah. Because he seems like that didn't really work out for him where he essentially, Andy Reid was like, yeah, we want him before the season. I think he's like, hey, you're going to be a head coach or a play caller somewhere so don't worry, you're going to move on. Oh, Eric B. Enemy, we want you back. And then the comments that about Eric B. Enemy being like, hey, he's going to give it to the guy straight. He's going to be a hard coach. That doesn't feel great for Matt Nagy.

[B]

Yeah, Matt Nagy. I don't know if he's built for Philly.

[D]

Maybe I've opted out. I, I'm going to trust Howie. I'm just going to trust Howie and Lori and Sirianni to find, find the guy.

[B]

Matt Nagy does have a history of helping the Eagles win first round playoff games.

[A]

He is from Pennsylvania because he played quarterback at Delaware. So maybe he's, maybe he's ready for it. Maybe Matt Nagy is the guy. I don't know.

[E]

What does Delaware have to do with anything?

[A]

I don't know. He just played. I just know that he played. I know people Delaware. And then I looked up and he's yeah, he's from Pennsylvania.

[D]

Most people who go to Delaware are from Pennsylvania.

[E]

That's not played football at Del from Pennsylvania. Dealt with Phil.

[A]

It was a backwards way. I remembered in my head that he was from, that he went to, to college in Delaware. And then I looked up and I was like, oh yeah, he's from Pennsylvania like Joe Flacco.

[B]

Yeah, it's a, Delaware is a satellite school. For Philadelphia, like south.

[D]

My dad went to Delaware. My uncle played football at Delaware.

[A]

There we go. See? Yeah.

[C]

That's it.

[E]

That's all I got.

[A]

That's. That was good. That was really good.

[D]

That was good. That was good analysis.

[A]

Yeah. All right, so Matt Nagy, maybe.

[D]

I don't how he's gonna find. How he's gonna find his guy.

[A]

Okay, clean up from Sunday. I had a couple things. One, I had a, I had a thought. This is when, you know, you're. It's football just takes over your brain. I just woke up in the middle of the night and I was like, do you think that Jared Stidham maybe regrets that he had to play in that game?

[B]

Oh, I thought that going into the game.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[B]

That this is a bad moment for him because he's maybe the high highest paid backup quarterback in the NFL.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you have to go out there, you have to prove it. It's the accidentally got important at my job thing.

[A]

Yeah. That sucks for him.

[B]

It's not a great scenario. Like, if he had gone out there and won this game, I would say Jared Sid, him at that point should fake an injury so he wouldn't have to play in the Super Bowl.

[A]

He'd been a legend for life.

[B]

You'll always be known as the guy that got the Broncos to the super bowl in a backup duty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, I, I agree with that. I think he's probably like, fuck, that sucked.

[A]

I also, I'm, I'm kind of, I've, I've leaned towards that. I don't think I have a problem with Sean Payton going for that fourth and one. Now that I'm thinking back because the, everyone's playing the game of after the game. Yeah. I know some people in the moment were like, take the points. But you were you never saying in.

[E]

The cave, take the point.

[A]

Yeah, I know, but I've been thinking about it more. It's like, you never were going to get back to the red zone. They never got back to the red zone. The play call, like PFT said on Sunday show was bad.

[B]

Yeah, that's the.

[A]

If you can't get one yard, you don't, you don't deserve to win a football game.

[B]

Also, it's, it's big time hindsight looking back. What you did on the couch, they.

[E]

Wanted a knockout punch.

[B]

What you did on that couch was. I thought bullshit. You were like, did they not know, like the weather was going to come in and the second half would be ugly? Like nobody knows that. That's going to happen. Like it's, it's about. If you get that first down right there, you increase your chances of winning the game almost exponentially if you go up 14 to nothing. I thought that was the right call. It was a bad play call. That's the issue.

[A]

Yeah. Touch push.

[B]

Yeah. And also in the moment, you didn't necessarily know that Jared Situm was going to suck for the rest of the game.

[A]

No.

[B]

He hit that nice bomb downfield. That was cool. You could have guessed he ran pretty good effectively. I guess you could say you did not expect the output to be what it ended up being in the second half.

[A]

Yeah. The weather police are also out in full force. Even more so than. Than we thought on Sunday night. Yeah. Being like that was just the worst. I, I can't reiterate enough though. The game was not good offensively before the weather showed up. And I do think that they're the idea that. And we actually asked if we could get Kurt Warner on for, for Friday show because we want to maybe talk to him about it and preview the Super Bowl. I like, personally, I like that football varies in terms of there's a dome teams, it's a track meet, and then a game like the AFC Championship game quickly becomes just a survival of the fittest.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And it becomes. And I know punts aren't sexy, but the. Just thinking back to the Patriots punt to the 33 yard line being like, holy shit, did that just swing the game? There's something about like, hey, we just have to find a way. We have a new set of problems. We have to find a way that the conditions aren't perfect. I don't really want to take that out of football.

[E]

Imagine if they had kicked the field goal and that game was tied and a team had to score to win.

[A]

Yeah. It would have been electric.

[E]

I would have had a heart attack. But it would have been an unbelievable. Like, how is a team scoring?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And.

[B]

And coaching is a big part of that. And I, I like the stress that it puts on coaches to figure out a way to win in unusual conditions. That's part of the game. Yeah. And. And I don't want them to take that personality away from the game. But it also reminds you of when you're a kid and you're playing snow football and everyone's had that experience and that's. That's fun. I like watching that. So Kurt Warner I'm sure is going to come on be like, yeah, every game should be played at SOFI Stadium.

[A]

And every. And and, and it, it feels like it's, he's getting, he's gaining popularity. Like his take is gaining popularity because of how bad that game looked in the second half. But again, I think we're going to be. In a day, it's going to happen no matter what. So it's kind of pointless to complain about. But there will be a day in 10, 15 years where 90% of the league is in a dome. And I think that will suck. I think that will suck.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we'll miss it. We'll miss having, you know, the, the weather elements impact a game, especially in the playoffs, where you have to be built in different ways. You can't, you can't just build the team one way and be like, no matter what, we're going to play this way.

[B]

Yeah. Also very important part of this is it gives losers an excuse to be like, that's weatherlock. Weatherlock. That's why these teams keep winning weather. And we need, we need every straw available to grasp on.

[A]

Yeah. The, the other story I had was from the NFC Championship game, the Cooper cup elevator story, which was quite something. The. So Michael Silver reported after the game that apparently when the Rams and Seahawks played in, in was a week 15 or 16 early in the year, that Thursday night game, Cooper cup had a costly fumble in the first half. And as both staffs were going down the elevator to the locker room for halftime, a Rams assistant essentially said to like, you know, said it to everyone but was kind of pretending to talk to only his guys, being like, which Seattle player was responsible for that fumble? And someone's like, oh, it's Cooper Cup. And then they, they snickered at the idea because they're like, yeah, he, he stinks. That's why we got rid of him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they were. The, the Seahawks and Rams coordinators and staff had to be broken up. They almost fought in the elevator. That's awesome.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

It's fucking awesome.

[B]

Good for the league. I'm sad that it took this long for that story to come out.

[A]

I know. And then apparently they used it halftime as like a rallying cry. Cooper Cup. And then it comes out. Michael Silver talks a little bit more about Cooper cup not not wanting to retire. The Rams basically trying to get him to retire, maybe possibly bad mouthing him in free agency. So this is a redemptive arc for Cooper cup in this Super Bowl.

[B]

And he had that touchdown catch. He had that big third down against the Rams. He had the, that was a great revenge game for him.

[A]

He had the bet that Zach made on him to score another touchdown when the Seahawks had the ball with a minute and 50 left. Up four.

[B]

Gotta take a shot.

[F]

It was a panic pick but gotta.

[A]

Take issue to shoot. Funny as fix.

[B]

Gotta take a shot. The.

[A]

The events that would have had to take place would have been. And we would have been an all.

[B]

Timer and Stafford has not decided on whether or not he's coming back next year.

[A]

He's.

[B]

I think he's gonna take some time.

[A]

He's got.

[B]

I think he should.

[A]

I also forgot the Rams have two first round picks.

[B]

Yeah. Falcons.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the Rams are. The Rams feel like they're in a situation where they're basically at everything that is just on Matthew Stafford. If Matthew Stafford decides not to come back, it's going to be a blow up situation. If he does come back, it's like, hey, we're this close.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And did you guys see the stat too? Which was kind of funny because there's been a lot of talk about the Shanahan coaching tree and all these guys and obviously there was the storyline of, you know, Ben Johnson and LaFleur and then Ben Johnson had to play Sean McVeigh. The bottom three teams in special teams EPA in the last five years are the 49ers, Rams and the Packers. The Shanahan coach retreat just doesn't give a. About special teams and it bites him in the ass.

[B]

Yeah, I know I, I didn't put that together but yeah, those are. Those are three teams that we've talked about on the show.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Consistently.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Not having good.

[A]

And they just don't. They, they, they. I don't know if it's not. They don't care about it but they clearly put an emphasis not on hey, special teams. Very important. We need to make sure that we have all this tightened up and it lost them the game on Sunday.

[B]

And I think all three of those coaches have had moments where their special teams, they know that it's a weakness and the only thing they do to fix it is they put like a star position player back there to return kicks.

[A]

Right. Kyron Williams.

[B]

Kyron Williams did that. They, they. They've done that in San Francisco a ton.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Over the years.

[A]

Here's the exact stat. It's the. Since 2020 playoffs included the EPA. I don't understand these numbers. Special teams EPA. The Niners are minus 86.83. They're 30th. Packers are minus 165. So dump almost twice as worse. And The Rams are minus 169 means.

[B]

They make a lot of mistakes.

[A]

And it means they're also really good at everything else to cover up for those mistakes.

[B]

And it's not a third of the game, but when you make a mistake on special teams, it ends up being disproportionately costly mistake. As opposed to making a mistake as a quarterback, maybe you throw a pick 25 yards down the field because there's only.

[A]

I mean, how many special teams plays are there in a game?

[B]

There's not.

[A]

There's nothing nearly as many, you know, compared to offensive and defensive snaps. So when you have one mistake out of call it 15. It's pretty apparent.

[B]

We saw then in the national title game too, college football.

[A]

Yep, yep. Special teams matter. We're here to tell you special teams matter. Mike McDonald, he's. There's gonna be a lot of stories about Mike McDonald. I saw this stat too. He is the first head coach to. To go to a Super bowl who never took a snap of college football.

[B]

So it's the new era of nerd.

[A]

Yeah, he. So Mike McDonald blew out his knee playing high school football and immediately started coaching, which. I love that he was that obsessed with football. Yeah, he was that obsessed with football, but I think it tracks.

[B]

Did you read the story about Mike McDonald and the way that he spent his week leading up to the Rams.

[A]

Game not hanging out with his kid? Yeah, yeah.

[B]

He said he gets. He gets about 30 minutes to an hour of personal time with his son Jack in a week and the two barely get to see each other.

[A]

So there was.

[E]

How old is his son?

[B]

There was a very funny graphic that said it was just Mike McDonald and it said only sees his son for 30 minutes a week.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know, dad. Yeah, that's. So that's not a lot of time. That's. That's. I would be bummed if I only saw my kids for 30 minutes a week.

[B]

What if you only play golf for 30 minutes a week, Hank?

[E]

Horrible.

[A]

The. I did see a follow up doesn't.

[E]

It's nothing.

[A]

I saw a follow up to it from. I can't remember. Oh, it was Mitchell Schwartz, I think followed up to it. He was like, people aren't understanding the NFL week. What he's talking about is Monday through Thursday is essentially the full install working endlessly. So, yes, he doesn't see him then, but he was like, I guarantee you sees him on Friday, Saturday, you know, before the game on Sunday. So not as bad as it. As the quote looked.

[B]

He's not.

[A]

And he also said that the kids, most likely the head coach's kids, are at the facility, too, during the week, hanging out.

[B]

He's not talking about, like, you know, he doesn't spend hours helping them with homework.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But he does have them helping around. Around the facility. Yeah. That kid's probably getting him coffee, probably.

[A]

Helping out, probably installs.

[B]

These could be memories that the kid's going to have for the rest of his life.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. That one was tough, though. I did see. I think he probably regrets that quote because it felt. But Mike McDonald's incredible, incredible coach.

[B]

His son Hank, to answer your question, one year old. Oh, so the kid's not going to remember. Doesn't count.

[A]

He's not going to remember. Yeah, that's kids. Kids become kids at like 2ish. Like, where they'll start when they start walking, talking. Yeah, he's good. Yeah.

[B]

That's more of a problem I would expect for. For mom.

[A]

He's a. He's a. He's going to be. If the Seahawks win the super bowl, he's going to be a headphones on the field kid. That doesn't count.

[B]

Yeah. You know, one of those memes. Can you explain. Can you explain this tweet that you had? What do you have about Adam Gase, by the way?

[A]

Mike McDonald.

[C]

Just.

[A]

Just to put a bow on it, his season this year, the Shanahan. Oh, no, this was actually last year. He took a. He just kills the Shanahan coaching tree, like every time he plays him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He just brutalizes.

[B]

He's an axe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Memes had a tweet. Mike McDonald sees his son for 30 minutes a week. They go on a Super bowl run. Adam Gay skips Thanksgiving dinner with his family. The jets lose 22 to 6 field to score a touchdown.

[F]

Yep.

[A]

To winless Bengals team. Yeah, that's right. He did skip his Thanksgiving. But if you're Adam Gates's family, aren't you kind of happy maybe that Adam Gates isn't around, maybe for Thanksgiving? That seems like a situation you'd be like, yeah, that's fine.

[B]

Yeah. What's he up to? Maybe next OC for the Eagles.

[A]

I don't know. He kind of ran out of. Ran out of gas after. Everyone's like, oh, so the whole just being OC for Peyton Manning was a good career move.

[B]

Yeah. Imagine if Jim Sorgi had gotten into a game that was probably his. His biggest fear, Right. Was Peyton Manning gets hurt before the AFC championship game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jim Sorgi would have been like, actually, I retire Badger legend. I'd like to retire on the spot.

[A]

Okay. Should we. Do we have Hot Seat, Cool Throne coming up, But I think it's time for the list. Yeah. Unless you guys have anything else. Hank, how you feeling? Now that it's Tuesday, you feel confident? Are you breaking down game tape? You were correct about the substitutions. I apologize.

[E]

It's okay.

[A]

Greg Olson and. And Coach Gruden. Did you say never wrong?

[E]

What?

[A]

You're never wrong. Okay. I was trying to give you. I was trying to apologize and be gracious, and then you just immediately spit my face.

[E]

I would also like to be gracious. I've been thinking about this, and. And my friend PFT over there, and I'm. I'm worried about him. I would like to give you a chance to take. Like, I feel like you might have got pressure, too, into the double or nothing.

[A]

PFT was the one who actually initially said it.

[E]

I know you probably thought about it. No, I'm not.

[B]

To clear this up, right after the game was over, we talked about it. I said to Max, I'm about to do something really stupid right now. Can you confirm?

[A]

Yeah, confirm, Confirm.

[B]

And I said, hank, you want to do double or nothing? And then Big Cat was the one that brought it up on the podcast.

[A]

But.

[B]

But I had made the offer already.

[A]

That. The only reason I brought up is I heard the offer, and I heard you'd be a chicken. And also, I donated the $5,000 to Pete Frates fund. So if you don't, double or nothing.

[E]

Did PFT donate a thousand?

[B]

No, because I knew that we were gonna have a conversation about this. You said, we'll have a conversation.

[A]

And if you don't. If you don't, do, you'll have to then double my donation.

[E]

I'm not scared of double or nothing. I am more confident than ever. I'm just. I'm just giving PFT an opportunity. It's gracious.

[A]

Where's your confidence coming from? I want you guys to.

[F]

To.

[A]

To negotiate. But where's the cops? Is it just Sam Darnold?

[C]

No, no, no.

[E]

This. There. There. There's a few factors. One, I think the defense is underrated. I think that the Seahawks have not played a lot of great offense. Like, they haven't played a lot like their schedule besides NFC West, Their schedule is not. Not that crazy.

[A]

I mean, the Rams were the best.

[E]

I know, but I'm saying take out the NFC west and look at their schedule. Like, there's not any crazy, crazy.

[A]

We're doing schedule talk. It.

[E]

It goes the other way. And I was like, let's look at the Seahawk schedule. And I'm like, this isn't that impressive either.

[B]

You did that with the Broncos, too.

[E]

Yeah, though that.

[C]

That.

[E]

It comes back to that. I. That I've been thinking about because I think Sam Darnold is a lot better. I'm not going to put the jets stink on him. The scene goes. Even though that is going to get brought up a lot. Mike vrabel and Josh McDaniels have been here before. They know what it takes and what they have to do in a week. Going up in the two weeks leading up to the super bowl, they know every single facet of super bowl preparation. They are going to have the Patriots more prepared than the Seahawks will. That is. That is what it ultimately comes down to. I think I saw the Gruden and Greg Olson clip where they're talking about finding the little edges and how Vrabel is that good at that. And I think the coaching, like experience in these games is going to be a huge factor. That's where my confidence is coming.

[B]

I agree with that. So I'm looking at their schedule. They played, obviously, the Niners. They played.

[A]

But he said, take out the good NFC west. The four good teams they played, forget about.

[B]

Okay, so we get the Steelers.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Well, no, they played four games. They played the Diners twice and the Rams twice. Take out that.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Okay, we got.

[A]

Take out the good team.

[B]

We got the Steelers, good team. Bucks, good team. You guys played the Steelers, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you beat them?

[E]

No.

[B]

The Jaguars, good team. Texans.

[E]

Hank, everyone's saying that the C.J. trout is horrible.

[D]

I'm looking at a website right now that has the Seahawks as the fourth hardest schedule in the.

[A]

No, but that. No, but Max, in defense of that, they didn't take out the four team. The four games they had against. Fair, fair, fair, fair.

[B]

The Vikings, not bad.

[A]

Sure. The Colts, that was Max Brosberg.

[B]

Not bad.

[A]

If we're. If we're being.

[B]

I'm just trying to skate over it.

[A]

Yeah. Falcons, Falcons, not bad.

[B]

The Colts, not bad. The Panthers, not bad.

[A]

But.

[E]

No, again, I, I didn't look at this.

[D]

This one says 15.

[E]

This one says 15.

[A]

I think that takes them.

[B]

I think they had a perfectly normal schedule.

[E]

But that, that, to answer your question, that is where my confidence is. Darnold's good. I think, like, that's a relatively even matchup. In terms of the quarterback, I think Drake May is better. He's just a little bit younger. Sam Darnold is more Experienced. Not in these big games or, you know, supposed to their first Super Bowls. I think the coaching is, is, is the key.

[A]

You know, Mike McDonald's a good coach.

[E]

Did you not listen to anything?

[A]

I just, I heard some of your things, but, like, Mike.

[E]

Has Mike McDonald. Has Mike McDonald won three Super Bowls? Has he been the offensive coordinator for like 100? No. This is his first Super Bowl. He's, he's going through his first Super Bowl. Mike vrabel and Josh McDaniels. This is just a walk in the park. They've been here before. They know what they have to do. Mike McDonald has not.

[B]

I agree. I agree, Hank. I think the coaching.

[E]

So it's not, it's always you always.

[C]

It's always.

[E]

Gotcha. You always.

[A]

No, it's not. I'm not sure. I just said that.

[E]

I'm happy that our coaches have more experience.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Your takeaway from that is you don't think Mike McDonald's a good coach.

[A]

I think.

[E]

That's not what I said. You just didn't listen to anything I said.

[B]

Hank. Here's why I, I, I take, I take your point, and I agree with it that the Patriots definitely have the edge in coaching based on experience.

[E]

You don't think Mike McDonald's a good coach.

[A]

But wait, hold on. You did your schedule thing and then you said, you said take out the Rams in the Niners.

[B]

I just said take out the Rams.

[E]

I don't even think the Niners are that good.

[A]

Their offense is pretty damn good.

[E]

They scored three points against them, right?

[A]

What are you talking about? The Seahawks defense is good. They're not against the Rams.

[B]

Okay, so, Hank, the, the, the only part that weakens this point that you're trying to make is last week you did the exact same thing against Sean Payton and against Vance Joseph when you didn't know who the coaches were. So I feel like that's your go to. That you keep going back.

[E]

No, but super bowl week, we got the coaching guys. Super bowl week's different. There's more. There's more time in between. There's. There's jitters.

[A]

And Mike Rival has not coached in a Super Bowl.

[E]

He's been to three.

[A]

I understand, but he's not coaching Super.

[E]

Probably been a more, but he's, he knows.

[A]

He, he knows it.

[B]

He knows the week.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with that.

[B]

He understands the, the schedule.

[A]

That part for sure.

[E]

And what it takes, not whatever.

[A]

No, I agree with that.

[E]

I can't, like, make a point. I say you guys are like, you're Wrong.

[A]

You're wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong. You're right. You're right.

[E]

I'm saying no, he hasn't coached in a Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, I was just pointing that out because that, that's, that is part of it. Super bowl is different than playing.

[B]

I agree that, that the Patriots have the coaching advantage.

[A]

I agree. Breaking Moose.

[B]

Joe Brady is going to break. Joe Brady has agreed to terms. He is the Bill's head coach.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I like, I like it.

[A]

That's, that's good.

[B]

I like it. I love Joe Brady. Joe Brady, friend of the hire. Joe Brady's been, he's been a guy that we've rooted for since lsu. So this is obviously speaks highly of his relationship with Josh because it felt like Josh Allen was the one that was making this choice for head coach.

[A]

Yes. Hank, back to what you're saying. You're right. I shouldn't have said do you don't think Mike McDaniel is a good coach? I'm. My point was I think Mike McDaniel. I don't think the coaching difference is that vast. Just like I don't think it's. Mike Vrabel's going is just so much better. He's a very, very good coach. I think Mike McDonald's is a very, very good head coach, too.

[E]

I agree.

[B]

I think it's prep.

[E]

I think it's just like getting the players ready, though. I think, like coaching X's and those, they're probably the same, but I think it's, again, variable. All the players talk about how tight the locker room is, the culture that he's built and all that. It's like, I think Variable is going to like, get all the players in the right mind.

[A]

Sounds like you weren't listening to the story about Cooper cup and everyone getting rallying around the elevator fight. That seems like they're pretty tight. That was a joke. I was trying to lighten the mood because I feel like it's going in a bad direction.

[E]

No, I just, it's like, it's, I'm just defense. I, it's like I, I, it is what it is. This is the. Well, no, it's against the world.

[A]

It's not the defense. No, but you bring up.

[E]

Everything you just said is wrong.

[A]

No, but you bring up arguments, the cherry pick. And then when I say, but what about this? You're like, well, no, I, my argument.

[E]

Was that variable and McDaniels have blended Super Bowls.

[A]

You're like Mike McDonald.

[E]

You don't think Mike McDonald's a good coach. Like that.

[A]

I. I took that part back. But, like, the schedule thing, we were like, take out the Rams and the Niners. Those are pretty big data points.

[E]

I was just saying. That was my observation.

[A]

Okay, how about.

[B]

I'm not a date.

[E]

I'm not. Like, if you take out, like, stat. I wasn't using statistics and data. I was just using my eyeballs.

[B]

How about. How about this, Hank?

[E]

I looked at their schedule. I was like, yeah, take these teams out. That's this. And that's. That's. Who cares?

[B]

Let's. Let's negotiate. What if I put a $40,000 bet on the Patriots money line in the Super Bowl? When it hits, you get $80,000. Then I keep the rest.

[A]

I guess that would be the same.

[E]

Nah.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Why would I do that?

[B]

Because you just said we could. We're doing double or nothing right now.

[E]

Yeah, I know, but like, that. You're just. You would win eight. How much would you win?

[B]

Well, you'd have to. You'd have the.

[E]

You would just not lose anything.

[B]

No, but you'd have the added luxury of. If the Patriots lost. If the Patriots won the super bowl, it's like I'm. I'd be out $40,000 no matter what.

[A]

Wait, no. If the Patriots won the super bowl, you would. You would have. You would have been out.

[B]

Or if the Patriots lose the super bowl, in this case, I would. I would be out $40,000. Whereas if we did double or nothing on the Super Bowl, I would paid no money.

[A]

If the Patriots win the super bowl, you would make $38,000. Right.

[B]

But if they lost the super bowl.

[A]

Right now, you would just lost $40,000, not 80,000.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Now, as we stand, it's double or nothing. Yeah. Meaning if the Patriots lose the Super Bowl, I don't pay a single cent.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

But if the. If we do this bet and the Patriots lose the super bowl, at least, Hank, in your eyes, I would be losing $40,000.

[E]

I would. Let's actually. Yeah, let's do that. Let's shake on that.

[B]

Okay. Oh, all right.

[A]

It's been shook on.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Why are you smiling? What did you figure out?

[E]

I like it. If.

[A]

Oh, I actually know. I actually agree. I know what you're gonna say, and I agree with how you're playing this now.

[E]

Get the clips of. PFT is gonna have no choice but to be rooting hard for the Patriots. I'll be fun to look back after the fact that. And the fact that he's actually putting out 40 grand is like, I will feel. I won't feel bad taking the money.

[A]

The 80,000 would also be thing to take from him.

[E]

This is like PFT is. It's not. He's not losing 80,000. It would be.

[A]

No, he's going to lose. He now is going to lose either 40,000 or win 38,000.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Or I guess he would. Yeah, yeah. Win 38,000.

[B]

I gotta be honest with Big Cat. I would, I would gladly pay $40,000 for a Patriots super bowl loss. That's how I'm looking at it.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's, that's, that's a great deal.

[B]

That's just good investing.

[E]

But I can't. I, I, I mean, I'll be at the game, but I can't wait to see how you end up having to root for this.

[A]

You do lose the rub it in factor.

[E]

No.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[E]

We'll see about that.

[A]

I. Well, do the initial rub it in factor of, like, now you owe me $80,000.

[E]

Taking $80,000 cash from PFT is going to be like, I, I disagree with that.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Because now it's not like, it's not like, hypothetical.

[B]

Right.

[E]

I feel bad taking.

[A]

It's like, no, you owe it to me, and you better pay right away.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Tuesday settle up day.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, Hank, Hank knew that I would have such a hard time taking even $9,000 from him that he just never did it.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

That's not, that's misremembering. Like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't make $5,000 worth of starlays. Like, the, the debt was $4,000, and then we bet it on golf. So it's like, it's not like I never paid anything. It's just wrong.

[B]

What happened after golf, though?

[E]

Then? It was the middle of the season, and you said, you, you said, let's wait till Super Bowl.

[B]

Did I say that?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You're like, I'm gonna have to owe you $50,000.

[B]

Oh, okay. I, I don't remember saying that. But I trust you. I trust you. I trust you, Hank. Hank's never wrong.

[A]

This is reminding me of memes yesterday when he said this. It's going to be a hostile work environment for the next two weeks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But when we asked him who. Who's making a hostile. He just said, me.

[B]

Yeah, memes, it is.

[A]

This is hostile. It's contentious. We're not even in San Francisco yet. Memes. Put on, Turn on your mic. I haven't said a word. Yeah. I know, but you probably like the hostility. I love it. Do you want to hop in on the hostility? What were you saying to Hank to make it hostile yesterday? Nothing. I just. You were just. You were just giving him a blanket statement of, hey, buddy, listen, it's gonna get hostile.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you nervous at all about that, Hank? I mean, it's not someone you want to have hostile towards you.

[E]

Memes has never not been hostile towards you, actually.

[A]

But what if he gets extra hostile?

[E]

I'm not worried about it. I won't hear him. I won't hear it.

[B]

Here's. Here's what?

[E]

Memes. Memes is extra hostile. Like, I know Memes talks trash on me behind my back 24 7.

[A]

So this is not.

[E]

There's not, like, extra hours. You can't add on to 24 7. So it doesn't really change anything.

[A]

That is true. When we go when. When this side of the desk, I.

[E]

Walk in all the time, and you guys are just sitting around our corner just talking about me.

[A]

When this side of the desk goes at you, you. We're not talking. When we leave the studio, that side of the. The booth is staying silent. And then when we walk out, they're like, hank.

[E]

Or their mics are just off. Memes is mumbling under his breath.

[A]

That's true. We're saying it's your face. You might.

[D]

I say plenty of shit.

[A]

Can you do me a favor? Can we do. Yeah, you do. Can we do, like, full immunity? Okay. Full immunity. You have full immunity. This is like international waters. You cannot be. You cannot be charged for any crimes or anything you're going to say. I would appreciate if you just took all your thoughts for the next 10 days and wrote them down. And then on the Friday before the super bowl, we could just do a memes log. Done. Okay. Love that. Just every mean thought you think of, and we'll just dump them all out on the Friday before Super Bowl. I love it. I did think about when you guys went to the car show yesterday, just breaking his lefty clubs. That's perfect for the memes log. I didn't do it. Yeah, write that down on the memes log. Look, things. You think any. Any thought, and you cannot be. You cannot be held accountable for any of it. Okay, let's do. Let's do. That was a simple question of how you feel, Hank, that we've got all the way here. Okay. Late breaking news. I have already left the office, but we thought we had to talk about it because Bill Polian has kept Bill Belichick out of the hall of Fame as a first ballot hall of Famer in one of the biggest hater moves of all time.

[C]

We.

[B]

We don't know who's made the hall of Fame yet and who hasn't, but the news was that Belichick did not receive the necessary votes. This is a disaster for all Patriots haters. You might think Bell, Bill Poland, you think you've won the battle. You lost the war, buddy. Because this is exactly how the next two weeks play out. New England Patriots fans have just deserved cause to feel like it's us against the world. Nobody likes us. And guess what? You can't argue with them about this point. No one believes in the Patriots. Hank, you got your wish. It feels like the Patriots are going to win the super bowl off this news, but this is. It's a. It's a travesty. It's mockery. It's a Travis Shay mockery.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, well, go ahead, Hank. What. What are you. What are your thoughts? I'm.

[E]

Me and PFT were doing some research earlier. I need to know, because it wasn't. Obviously it wasn't. Bill Pulling was the one lobbying for this, but there was other voters. Like, who are these voters?

[A]

There. There's some.

[E]

How are they NFL voters?

[A]

There's 50 voters in the room. You need 40 out of 50 to become a first ballot hall of Famer. I said right away, this needs to be televised because whoever, like, guys got to stand behind their votes and actually, like, stand up there in front of the camera and say, this is why I'm not voting. And. And yeah, pfd. There's an angle for the super bowl, but I think it's. Obviously the bigger angle is if there's not a. Whatever you feel about Bill Belichick, if there's not the definition of a Hall. First ballot hall of Famer, quintessential hall of Famer. It's Bill Belichick. The guy has six Super Bowls as a head coach. Another, what, two for the Giants. And like it. What it does is Bill Polian has basically made a joke of the hall of Fame because the hall of Fame looks really stupid being like, yeah, Bill Belichick's not a first ballot hall of Famer. It's like that one guy who voted against Derek Jeter. It was the dumbest thing ever when that happened. You just basically make a mockery of your entire institution. Like you hate him, but you've now made. Made it all look stupid. Right? For what?

[E]

It also makes the Robert Kraft Even more blatant where it's like Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones is in the hall of Fame and Robert Kraft has, you know, way more success in a way more recent time than, than Jerry Jones. And so Bill Belichick not getting into is like it's clearly just the NFL against the Patriots.

[B]

What is the day. What is the day of the induction ceremony this year? Patriots fans would not August. I could not blame them for doing a January 6th at Canton the day before the induction ceremony. I actually don't put it past Patriots probably led by people in this very office. Maybe our return to the NFL's good graces might be short lived because I would say early August there, there's going to be a ruckus and it's well deserved even like yes, you could Hank, you could accuse me of hating the Patriots or wishing I don't hate the Patriots. I just, I think you've had enough success which is why I root against you in, in many cases this season. But it's ridiculous that Bill Belichick is not a first ballot hall of Famer and it's ridiculous that Bill Polian did this seeming seemingly out of spite that he tried to rally the voices just because he's mad that he was the GM for the Bills and the Colts and they kicked the out of him for years. And he's tried to hold him down for a long time. And we do need to see what the votes are. And that sheep.

[E]

It's the. It's who like Bill Bullion. Yeah, he's a salty whatever, but who are the people that heard what he said and said. You know what? You're right.

[A]

Yeah, you're. You're right. Hey. Because it's more than just him, but he obviously is the ringleader. It's crazy too because it's the most short sighted move I think in the history of. Of like spite moves because Bill Polian has united all the sports media behind Bill Belichick. This is like his glow up is. Is now back where everyone's like, this makes no sense. And Bill Polian, you look like the saltiest. If you had to do one spin zone for Bill Polian hater of the year and like waiting this long, that is like a hat tip move. But other than that, Bill Polian now looks like a joke and his legacy is a joke.

[B]

Now if you found out that Jordan was behind this and she told Bill Polian to do this against Bill, knowing that there would be backlash against Bill Poley and pro Bill Belichick, I would say PR Move of the century for her.

[A]

Easily, easily.

[E]

No Instagram stories from Jordan.

[B]

Oh, set alerts. Her next Instagram story is going to be a fucking banger.

[A]

Yeah, like, I. I agree, though, Hank, we need to get these names. I don't know why it's the league that televises everything. We have made the NFL draft. An entire circuit traveling circus, the combine. We watch guys run around in. In, like, tight shorts. They. They have a night to release the schedule in late May. Give us the hall of Fame vote on television and let us see it. Let us. Because, like, tell me that wouldn't do great ratings. And it also would be interesting to see everyone state their case, because all I understand from the hall of fame voting is 50 dudes who sit in a room in a hotel lobby and they argue back and forth. And, like, every single person has their own bias and they lay their bias out there and they all just go back and forth, and then we get it spit out in a shifter tweet saying, these guys got in. These guys did.

[B]

Yeah. It's. The issue is it's the Pro Football hall of Fame, not the NFL hall of Fame. So.

[C]

Right.

[B]

The writers and everybody would have to agree to that. Not like the NFL could. Although I'm sure the NFL could say, hey, we need to televise this, and probably strong arm them into doing that. They did reach Peter King for comment because he retired from the committee. Peter King walked away from the committee, and so he's saying, like, it's not on me because I'm not voting anymore. Peter, you could have stuck around if you had stuck around, maybe put a stop to this. He said, quote, holy f dash, dash, dash. I'm not sure what word he used to. Could have been holy fart. Could have been the other bad F word. Or it could have been fuck. I'm very, very surprised. A lot of things happened in that room that are unexpected. And, of course, this is a big surprise to me. It's. It's ridiculous. I. If Robert Kraft gets in and Belichick.

[E]

Doesn'T, I have some breaking moves.

[A]

Okay. Shador Sanders was a pro bowler before Bill Belichick became a Hall of Famer.

[B]

Yep. Cash your tickets. Hungry dog. Matt.

[A]

Breaking moves.

[E]

Vet Verderame. I'm going to go with this is how you pronounce his name. Writes for SI Said. I just spoke on the phone with Bill Pollian. Asked whether he was an influence on Bill Belichick. Being snubbed by the hall of Fame is quote, that's totally and categorically. Untrue. I voted for him.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

The plot thickens. So either Bill Polian is the biggest coward in the world, or there's a deep state plot to undermine Bill Poland.

[A]

Bill Polian. Bill pulling. Read that statement again.

[E]

I just spoke on the phone with Bill Polian and asked whether he was an influence on Bill Belichick being snubbed by the hall of Fame. His quote, that's totally and categorically untrue. I voted for him.

[A]

So that was really smart by Bill Polian. He lost Belichick and then voted for him. Yeah, like, hey, it wasn't me.

[B]

Or I thought of another possibility. Could this have been led by somebody from Robert Kraft's camp for craft to get in and then he pins it on Bill Polian?

[A]

Yeah, that would be. I don't know. The plot does thicken. We got. We got to get the names. We got to get the names.

[B]

I want people in that room.

[A]

This is one of those.

[E]

Need people in the room.

[B]

Speak up.

[E]

Need people in the room.

[A]

Need. Need people in the room. We. Hey, you can. Anyone who wants to. Not who's in the room. Who wants to anonymously hit up. Pardon my take. Zach, what's your email?

[B]

Say it again. One more time.

[A]

That was a mistake. That was a mistake. So many people. Zach, we will hit up Zach. If you were in the room, Zach will read all the people who hit him up and were in the room on Friday's show.

[D]

Pmtbacherpartymail.com okay.

[A]

Pmtbacherpartymail dot com now we'll use that here email. We'll bleep out Zach's email.

[B]

Okay, Smart. But we need to know the real story.

[A]

We need. We will get. We. We will. We will. Zach will go through all the emails and he will find the people in that room. It's crazy. It also big picture. It's like, it's one of those situations that everyone's gonna get really mad about for, like, 12 hours, and then we're gonna forget about it, and then he's gonna be in the hall of Fame next year.

[B]

Well, yeah, but this is like an actual piece of damage that you can do to Bill Belichick because he's not a first ballot. He's such like. And he cares deeply about things like the Football hall of Fame, that this is a way that you can hurt him by not making him a first ballot hall of Famer. So whoever did it, I guess. I guess good job in figuring out a way to hurt your nemesis. But this had be Very careful. It does feel like we're all now, like, rooting for Bill Belichick. As you should.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

As you should, as football guys.

[A]

Internet has. Has decided the guy who. Who everyone hated forever is now. They're like, hey, he's. He's the victim here, which he is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's crazy. It just. It is. It's. The hall of Fame should stand as it's. It's our same argument that we make every single year about the baseball hall of Fame. And Barry Bond should be in. It's a joke to have a Hall of Fame and not have the best baseball player on. It's a joke to have a Hall of Fame and not have the best coach of all time in, like, this is a joke. This. The hall of Fame is a complete joke now. So Bill Poland. Or maybe not Bill Polian. You fucked it up. We got to find out who's in that room, Hank. You got to get some digging.

[E]

I'm on it.

[A]

You are?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. What was the hesitation?

[E]

I'm just, you know, I'm on it.

[B]

Hank. What are the odds that the Brady Four ride together again? The Belichick for.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

I'd say.

[E]

Hi.

[A]

Can I. Can I throw out a hypothetical to you, Hank?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Saturday, let's say, like, 12:30. You're at hole eight at Spyglass, and you get a text, and someone says, hey, I'm a trusted source. I have all the information. Call me right now. It's going to take about 45 minutes to break it all down, but you can report it first on. Pardon my take.

[E]

Yeah, we'll catch up on hole. Catch up on hole 11.

[B]

This is.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

It's a business trip for him, Hank.

[A]

That's huge, Hank.

[E]

Yeah, so it'll be good for the video.

[B]

But wait.

[F]

Hank.

[B]

But this would be. That we're filming, but we're gonna be working. So you'd say that you'd stop working on Saturday? I would take a personal phone call.

[E]

Yeah, I would. This Bill Belichick and the Patriots, Tom Brady, whatever you want to call it, that it goes above work. That's like my family. When people are like, family comes first.

[B]

Like, above your golf family, all the holes.

[E]

Yes. This is my. Yeah, this.

[A]

So you. So you would throw your kids to the side.

[E]

I don't have kids. These aren't like you're golf holes. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're the new Mike McDonald.

[E]

I would kick the kids away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I only see my. I only see my 13th hole for 30 minutes a week.

[A]

Yeah. All right. So. So what? What's the email again, Max? PMT Bachelor.

[D]

I think it's PMT Bachelor party dot com.

[A]

No one said it was easy being journalist. You gotta. Part of. Part of being a journalist is the people who want to anonymously tip us, they have to figure it out.

[B]

Or you can just DM the part of my take accounts.

[A]

Yeah. Give us the inside scoop. We'll tell us who, and Zach will. Will give us his findings on Friday.

[B]

Show, and we will keep you anonymous. If you wish to remain.

[A]

And if you wish to not rename remain anonymous, we will shout out your Twitter and Instagram handle.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Found what? Yeah, no, I was right. PMT bachelor party at Gmail dot com.

[E]

Nice.

[A]

What? Hank.

[D]

Nailed it.

[A]

Hank. What?

[E]

It's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot.

[B]

Well, we want to know.

[A]

We're going to get a lot of tips.

[B]

We're willing to go through all. All the fake sources and fake tips if it means that we get the good one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is important journalism. I think we can do it.

[A]

Hank, you don't seem like you're bought in.

[B]

Can I give you some advice?

[E]

You guys do your thing. I'll do my thing. I.

[B]

Okay. What thing are you doing?

[E]

Having p. Our fans. There's email. Whoever's going through that's going through hell.

[B]

What thing are you doing?

[A]

What?

[D]

Pmtbacherparty.com.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

That is hell, dude.

[E]

That's hell.

[D]

Zach. Look at Zach. Zach, are you ready for this?

[F]

Journalism's got a journal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yep. And listen, listen. I'm gonna ask respectfully, don't email the fake scoops no matter what. If you have a fake script, do not email Zach. He's going to get very confused if you do. So please. Only 100 authentic scoops coming through that pipeline.

[A]

Let me just throw in one more thing. Authentic scoops and titties. That's it.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

We will not accept anything else. If you want to send Zach some titties, you can do that, but authentic scoops as well.

[B]

Completely.

[E]

Fine.

[B]

Yeah, Hank. And you got to put a deadline. You got to put a deadline. Like, they need to make this right by this.

[E]

I think they will. I think they're gonna have to reverse this.

[B]

Give them a deadline.

[A]

By.

[E]

By Monday. They gotta get. It's gotta be. It's gotta be done before media day or.

[B]

Or else. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, or else. Okay. All right, let's get back to. We're gonna do an ad, and then we'll get to Zach's list. Let's do Zach's list, though, before we do that. DraftKings.

[E]

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[A]

Okay, so what we're gonna do here, Zach, just to refresh, everyone, Zach lost the picks competition. The year long best bets picks competition. He has to do a stream for the awls on our YouTube for 36 hours. We're gonna probably do it sometime. I would guess if we had to pick a week, it's probably going to be two weeks after the super bowl, like the third week in February. Somewhere in there, we'll. We'll figure out. Exactly. Easy. 36 hour stream. Max has to join him for 18 hours. He has created a list that I've told him, no bad ideas. We will not be judging bad ideas. Max actually did say. He said, yes, bad ideas. I will be judging bad ideas.

[D]

No, I'm. I'm gonna be supportive.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I. To be fair, I think that Max is being treated very poorly because he finished in second place. And we never make the second place person do a punishment. And for some reason, we're just singling Max out.

[D]

That's untrue. It's just funny that last year.

[B]

Okay, all right. Okay. Sorry.

[D]

Just saying, you're right.

[A]

Five people.

[B]

Max is right. You.

[D]

Everyone keeps saying that, like, someone doesn't finish in second place with five people.

[A]

But it's like five people. It's what? It's odd numbers.

[D]

No one finishes in second.

[A]

Do you understand? Way less.

[D]

I finished like 10 games above 500 in this game, in this picks conference.

[B]

Max is right. It's fair.

[D]

And I'm.

[E]

And I'm.

[B]

Thank you, Max.

[D]

And after we abolished the second place thing last year, we're bringing it back because you abolished.

[A]

You want it to be the NBA where like, like half the league makes the playoffs.

[D]

We abolished it. You want to. You want me to use a different word? It was accurate. It was an accurate word.

[A]

Abolished it.

[E]

Abolished is a great word.

[A]

Okay. So.

[D]

But I'm going to be supportive. I'm supportive. I'm happy.

[A]

All right. So Zach's ideas. We. We tease it on Sunday. He. The first idea was run a 10K inside the booth. Which. How many. How, how many times back and forth did we say it was?

[B]

I think it's about 12, 000 times back and forth.

[A]

I love that idea.

[B]

I might have done the math wrong on that.

[A]

I love.

[B]

But it's thousands of times.

[A]

Your mic's not on.

[F]

It's a bad idea.

[A]

No, it's not.

[F]

It was an early idea.

[E]

We're one for one.

[F]

Yeah, this, this list is so. The streams are so many weeks away. This list is so early. There's going to be some fun ideas, some terrible ideas, and we move from here.

[A]

We also.

[E]

You guys can also like. It can be. You do 5k. Max is 5k.

[A]

Yeah, right. I'll chip in a K. Yeah, same. I'll do one K.

[F]

That a lot of K's thrown around.

[A]

Yeah, we got.

[B]

I'll do a K. Okay.

[F]

It is a little bit.

[B]

We got three K's over here.

[F]

The square footage of this.

[B]

I will say coffee with content cam.

[A]

What do you got?

[F]

The square footage of the booth is a little smaller than I was writing this list outside of the studio. In my head, the booth seemed a little bit bigger. When you like stand in here and think about it, it is tiny.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, well, there's no bad ideas. And I also want.

[E]

I might watch that guy do a 10k on a dishwasher the other day.

[A]

So wait, what?

[E]

It's like a guy on Instagram, he does he. That's. His whole thing is like running 10Ks.

[B]

10K anywhere you run.

[E]

Do you run a 10K on a toilet?

[A]

How.

[E]

Just circling it.

[A]

Oh, running around it.

[B]

Yeah. How big is this guy?

[A]

So that's not on a toilet. He's running around.

[E]

No, no, no, no. On the seat. Oh, his, His. He's like. It was like. I think he did a post ranking the worst ones he had to do, and he was like, total was the worst because they kept slipping in.

[A]

Oh, that's incredible. Okay, so, Zach, I also think that everyone here who's not Max or Zach, we should all volunteer to maybe do one of these ideas, because we do want it. We will help out with the stream.

[F]

We'll be involved, and who knows, maybe we may. We pivot different ideas and add ideas later.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Okay. The first one I have on here is a spooky booth. Max and Zach play with a Ouija board.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

In the booth. Spooky Booth.

[B]

I like that.

[D]

You know that we're not doing the stream in the booth.

[B]

No, he doesn't.

[D]

We are making a streaming setup inside of the studio.

[F]

That one felt like.

[D]

But two for two on Boo Things where the stream is not being held.

[A]

Spooky Studio does not hit like spooky Booth is.

[F]

That's just a coincidence.

[A]

Yeah, like, there's a. I just want.

[D]

To, like, we're making you a setup for you, like, your streams going forward, and this is going to be the first one of that, and that is not in this booth.

[A]

I love spooky back to back.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I'm just.

[A]

I'm just.

[D]

I'm just letting you know.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

It was Booth coincidence. That's on me.

[C]

We're going to do what Simple Booth coincidence.

[F]

I was also thinking, you know, made me and Max try to be chained together, which is a game they have on steam. That could be fun.

[A]

What do you. What, you just chain each other together?

[F]

We're chained. So in the game, you're chained together, and you try to climb this, like, big. You try to. You go from, like, hell to heaven, and you. You climb just a bunch of structures.

[E]

You.

[F]

It's great idea.

[E]

That's a great idea.

[F]

I think that could be fun.

[A]

Yeah. How does the booth come into that one?

[F]

That one was besides booth.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[E]

Can we chain you guys together in real life?

[D]

Yes. We will be chained together until we finish.

[E]

Chain.

[A]

Yes. Okay.

[D]

That's entertaining to the viewers.

[A]

That.

[D]

That's good.

[B]

It's called the co op game from hell, so it's really hard.

[F]

It's pretty difficult.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

It's funny.

[A]

It's good.

[E]

That's a good idea.

[F]

We talked about the 10k. We'll skip that. I got a week one time capsule. Me and Max make a couple picks for next week one NFL season. We bury them in the ground, and then Week one, next year, we dig them up.

[A]

I love it.

[F]

But there's two lists, so we don't know which list goes in the ground.

[E]

What do you do that on the stream.

[A]

Wait, what do you mean there's two lists? You don't know which one goes in the ground?

[F]

We make two lists of picks, and they get shuffled, and so we don't know which list is in the capsule.

[D]

Are these, like, futures for next year, or is this week one plays? Because we will not know the schedule.

[F]

This is an early development, just a brain dump.

[C]

Just.

[E]

What if you just pick all your games for next year against the spread? You just say a team.

[F]

Just whatever.

[E]

Because whatever their spread is, and then. No, no. Just like, you can just be like, the Bears, week two.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And then whatever their closing line is. Okay. That's what you get.

[D]

I. I kind of like that. I kind of like that.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Or like on Thursday when we tape the show, that's the line that we use.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Well, no, but this is. No, it's like, you just. You just. We look at. At the end of the year, and it's like whatever their closing line is. See how you did?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[F]

This next one is itch golf. It would be the opposite of scratch golf. Max and Zach competing 18 holes on the PlayStation. I think that could be fun.

[A]

Where's the itch come in?

[F]

It's the opposite of scratch golf because we're bad golfers.

[A]

You guys should do scratch and itch.

[B]

I think there should be an itch. There should be an itch.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think there's gonna be, like, itching powder in your pants. Yeah, like you itching while you're golfing.

[F]

That wasn't on here.

[E]

What about. What about Zach? We golf on the big screen.

[F]

We got big screen. Could play as well. There's a couple different. We got PlayStation, big screen. We got the alternate reality golf, and with the golf cave, we got a couple different golf options.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. We're not gonna do it like the last time, where you guys are locked in a room. You guys can use any space. We're gonna make it good for the viewer.

[B]

We got to figure out something to make you itchy, though.

[A]

Yeah. I think the itch part.

[D]

We should just play real golf, though. Then they're like in the simulator. Zach and I are the golfers in.

[A]

This, but you got to be itchy.

[E]

You guys. You guys should play golf as a scramble till you get a par.

[A]

They'd get a par.

[D]

No, we would.

[A]

Depending on how itchy. I Think we're. I think.

[E]

But that would be.

[A]

I think the problem.

[D]

No, birdie, I think would be the. That would be the.

[A]

I think Zach and Maxo are. Are kind of losing the whole. We got to figure out the itchy part. Part.

[F]

The itchy part is scratch. Golfers are good golfers. We're bad golfers. Right, Right.

[A]

Gotta be itchy.

[B]

Yeah. We gotta do something.

[D]

Maybe every time we don't get. We have to put a little bit of itchy powder.

[A]

Oh, what about. What about shirts off?

[D]

Nope. Right there.

[A]

No, no, no. But it just. Shirts off, you guys. Golf. On the simulator, we get a giant feather. So while one of you is hitting, the other one is tickling the other one on the small. The back with the feather.

[F]

That's tickle.

[A]

It's golf. Oh, that's tickle. Go.

[B]

What about this?

[A]

You guys got the rules to tickle golf?

[B]

You guys get a haircut like, an hour before, and you don't take your shirt off. You don't take a shower. You'll be itchy.

[D]

Yeah, no, that does suck.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[F]

We wear a lot of Velcro.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Sure. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

I got another one on here. It's. Who's going to carry the balloons? That's running back the balloon up game. But we wear weighted vests to make it.

[C]

Oh, a little bit different.

[A]

Love that. So keepy uppy. But you have weighted vests on.

[F]

But we're weighted vests. So, like. Yeah, after a while, I feel like.

[A]

I could get definitely. That's good. That's good.

[B]

I thought.

[D]

Would it be vests or would it be the. The wrist. The wrist weight?

[A]

I think. Yeah, you could do both, though, because, like, moving around in a weighted vest gets tiring.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

We just wait, you guys up.

[B]

I thought they were talking about, like, wearing weighted vests and having a bunch of helium balloons and then just trying to stay on the ground.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like an up.

[A]

How long do you think you could keep.

[D]

I don't think a hot air balloon would.

[C]

Would keep me.

[A]

If we did a balloon in this studio and one of you was blindfold, the other one had to tell him when to hit. How long do you think you keep it in there?

[D]

I think I actually. I like that.

[A]

That could be fun.

[D]

That could be fun.

[F]

I can add that one. That would be a good time. Okay, this next one is Sleep tight Saquon. Max and Zach riding eagles bedtime story.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Done.

[D]

I like that one. Sleep Tight Saquon is a great.

[A]

That's. I need it. It. I need it.

[F]

Next one you got. Place your aids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Also, Zach has.

[E]

I'm in for that.

[D]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna hop it on. Sleep tight, Saquon. Zach has to write it out without using spell check.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Max, you're. You're an artist, right? You draw?

[D]

Nope.

[B]

You should. You should illustrate it.

[A]

Can I do that? Can I have one change on the charades booth?

[F]

Definitely.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

That feels like a perfect booth activity. Booth boost charades, where one of you is in the booth and the other one's out here so you can't hear them.

[F]

So it transcends booth because you can. Yeah, that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[F]

This studio might be set up for charades.

[A]

Yeah, this might be a perfect charades. We. We might have built a charades arena without knowing it.

[F]

I've got a goop, goop, goop on here, which is a teacher. Max. Me. Max Planar craters.

[A]

Okay, nice.

[E]

That's. That's middle. That's good for, like, middle of night. Yeah, people.

[D]

Yeah, people are gonna. I mean, people are gonna want to see that.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's 10 hours.

[A]

Goop, goop, goop.

[F]

This one's bad. We can toss it. It's. It's called a hot brush. It's kind of like wine and paint, but we drink hop. Hot sauce. Bad idea.

[A]

What's the wine and paint part?

[F]

A lot of girl. A lot of ladies do wine and paint, so they paint. Photo. They paint murals and drink wine. We would be painting murals and. Oh, terrible idea.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

No, I like that idea.

[E]

Yeah. It's like hot water.

[B]

Hot ones. With art.

[A]

With art and just hot sauce and just drinking hot sauce.

[E]

And no question.

[D]

Our.

[B]

Maybe we get Sean Evans to stop by.

[A]

Can I. Can I go off of that? What about wine and paint? And you guys paint, but the whole time you just whine about, like, oh, my. Oh, this stream stinks.

[D]

I could do that.

[A]

That would be funny. We abolish second place. Yeah. They're gonna get rid of. They're gonna make me take off my shirt for.

[D]

No, they're gonna keep the tush push now because the eagles are bad at it now. Now they're gonna keep it.

[A]

But wine and paint would be good, where you just whine the whole time.

[F]

That could be fun. And you get some stuff off your chest. You know, you kind of just like. It's good to vent.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

This next one is a karaoke. It's.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Sold.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't need to go. You don't need to go.

[F]

Is it.

[E]

Can I guess on what it is. Yeah. Singing and making eggs.

[D]

No.

[B]

Oh, yolk.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I like.

[F]

I like. I like making eggs, though. That could be a lot of fun.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

That's better than this. This is. This pales in comparison.

[A]

Okay, so what is this?

[F]

This is just me and Max do karaoke, but as we're trying to sing karaoke, we have to finish a. You'll play yogurt.

[A]

Oh, okay. No, I love that yogurt. While you karaoke, what about you yo yo, yo yos. One of you eats the yogurt.

[F]

Yo squared.

[A]

What about you got to get through.

[B]

An entire song keeping the yo yo.

[A]

Alive while the other person feeds them. Yo yo play. Yeah. Triple yo.

[D]

These are so much better than. These are so much better than 10k that you started with.

[A]

No, 10k is great. We're doing the 10k. Okay, keep going, Max.

[F]

Exact checkers rematch. That's just. That's personal.

[A]

I didn't know there was a first game.

[F]

There was a. Max smoked me and I want.

[C]

I want my.

[D]

We also. We also didn't you guys.

[E]

Three rows of checkers, not checkers.

[D]

We did. There's supposed to be three rows of checkers. We only did two rows of checkers.

[A]

People also said Zach through the game.

[D]

I think it was early on in Zach, and I think he was beating me. And then all of a sudden, I think he lost on purpose.

[A]

He didn't want to scare. He want a big dog.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Is it possible to actually play chess against checkers?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Like, one guy gets checkers pieces, one guy gets chess pieces.

[A]

I don't think so.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, because the bishops are on different colors, so that wouldn't work.

[D]

Yep. That's it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

What if you play.

[A]

And also everything.

[D]

What if you play the goal of the game?

[A]

All parts of it.

[B]

But it'd be funny to watch you guys figure that.

[A]

But it's bishop.

[E]

What if you play chess using the checkers pieces? And then everyone in the chat will be like, it's checkers. And then you guys can be like, it's chest on checkers.

[A]

And you have to just announce. What? What? What? You're like. You. You move it. And you're like, that was my horse. Yeah, I like that.

[B]

Every piece would just be your queen. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. We'll figure that one out.

[F]

This next one is part of my antipast. Max. Zack at appetizers.

[A]

Love it. That was just a lunch break. Yeah.

[D]

Hell, that. That's a good one.

[A]

That we should get the Slicer going.

[D]

Yeah, we can do that.

[A]

You should get the slicer going for it. That's a great one.

[F]

This next one is memo men. We see who can cover themselves in post it notes quicker.

[A]

That's great. Okay.

[F]

Yoga with an instructor.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Maybe get a little loose, you know?

[A]

Oh, you know an instructor.

[F]

There's gonna be tons. I, I, Some guys know some. Yeah, there's. We got instructors.

[A]

Okay. Do you have one you could maybe text?

[F]

Yeah, guys. No. Instructors. Yeah, all sorts of guys.

[A]

What was the last text?

[F]

I, I don't know. I got it. I'd have to check.

[A]

It's been a while.

[F]

Are you. Are you smarter than a fifth grader? But we go until we graduate high school.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

I've got hiring a drill instructor for boot camp, but it's memes.

[A]

Oh, like that.

[F]

Max and Zach competing cup stacking. Okay, Puffman. So you can complete a Pac man maze quicker. But it's cheese puffs.

[A]

Wait, talk me through that one real quick.

[B]

You just.

[F]

I was. You duct tape a small maze on.

[A]

The ground and you try to eat it yourself.

[F]

You try to pac man it.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[F]

That one's tough, but it could be fun.

[A]

You guys are Pac Man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Love that.

[F]

This next one is sassy Lego. So we're gonna try to build a LEGO set with acrylic nails on.

[A]

That's gotta be done.

[D]

Sassy. Sassy Lego.

[C]

Good.

[D]

Sassy Lego I like a lot.

[A]

I might sign up for sassy Lego with the boys. Oh, maybe a.

[F]

A break in the world record for most T shirts worn at once.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

I've got a.

[A]

That's got to be.

[D]

We would need. We would need some big T shirts.

[A]

It's also like, I bet you that record is like 800 or something.

[D]

And it has to be from a very small person.

[B]

Final boss is just grab one Colton shirts.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

We do know a guy with the biggest shirt.

[A]

We do. He has the biggest shirts.

[F]

We've got a. What's it where. My bad skipped. This one is called Silent Socks. While blindfolded, you have to put on a sock filled with something, and guess what it is.

[B]

That's a good idea.

[D]

I like that one.

[A]

I like that one.

[B]

I can tell whether or not these ideas are good or not just by the names. Yeah, Like, Zach's got some banger names.

[D]

Hank.

[A]

I haven't.

[E]

I don't have the name for it, and I also don't. I don't know how that would work visually on the stream, but I've always had an A Competition idea of. Of trying to plug in something in the darkness.

[A]

Oh, I like that. I also. This. This silence, like you're in a dark room and whoever.

[D]

How would that look visually?

[E]

That's what. Yeah, that. I. I did preface it with that.

[D]

But you can just blindfold. We usually be blind.

[C]

True.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[F]

Glow sticks.

[A]

I also. Do you guys ever watch the videos of. It's like Chinese guys in a room together and the rubber ducks taped to their feet, and one of them's blindfold and has a belt, and if you move, they whip each other. We should play around with that. Okay, I. That. That I think we should all do, because it is very funny. So, like, you, like, everyone's just silently, like, crouching, and then if you move a little bit, the duck goes, and then he just turns around and tries to whip.

[B]

Okay, I like that. I like the Sox idea, though. So that's a winner.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[F]

I've only got two more on here. Last couple. One of them is just giving the pimp mats a real attempt, you know, just trying to really become more aligned, Zen, relaxed.

[A]

Okay. The mats. Yeah.

[F]

And then the last one is brisket boys, which would just be everybody enjoying brisket sandwiches.

[A]

Love that. Brisket boys might be the conclusion of the whole stream.

[D]

Yeah, well, the antipast. Yeah, that goes.

[A]

Yeah. No, but the last hour being brisket boys, we all joined, and we just do brisket boys.

[F]

So hopefully we can build from there. But a couple. Couple could play.

[B]

Zach, you're a big brisket fan.

[F]

I would. Yeah, I would say so.

[A]

Ooh, Max, what if you smoke some meats? You have a lot of time. You could just make. You could start the brisket when the stream starts. So the end of the stream is.

[D]

I could try and do that. That could be fun.

[A]

That would be really fun.

[D]

Bread, I could bring in. I could bring in chef Diesel. The bread boys could get. That could make some bread and some briskets.

[A]

Yeah, get sandwiches. That would be good.

[B]

Sounds like a great stream.

[A]

I'm excited.

[B]

I'm glad that Max agreed to do second place.

[D]

Yeah, no, I'm.

[C]

I'm.

[D]

I'm excited. I'm excited. I think that. I think the people like it. It'll be good.

[A]

It's gonna be great. And I. Like I said, I'm already signed up for. I gave you a K, so I'm in for a K. And I'm definitely in for sassy Legos.

[F]

Awesome.

[A]

It's gonna be.

[F]

Should be a good time.

[A]

Legos. Have you guys. Was the last time you Guys legoed.

[F]

They're sneaky hard. They are fully equipped.

[A]

I do it with my son sometimes. He asked me for help and I'm just like I don't think I got it.

[B]

I'm excited about Puffman.

[A]

Was Puffman again.

[B]

Pac Man.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

We call it something Puff Daddy maybe.

[A]

And also itchy golf with you guys having your shirts off.

[D]

Well that we're workshop that one.

[F]

We'll workshop.

[A]

Drop it.

[E]

But yeah.

[A]

A huge gigantic feather. Oversized feather as you swing.

[D]

This is great that you did this Zach. Because now for all the people that need to know of the tech and everything, we're just gonna send him.

[A]

What? What? Yeah. You said figure this out.

[D]

Yeah, figure this out. How can we. How can we do all of this?

[A]

Decipher this? Okay, let's do hot seat Cool Throne. Then we have DeAndre Hopkins on the show and we'll finish off with the faqs Hut seat. Cool Throne is brought to you by Pizza Hut Big games this weekend. And here's the move. The big New Yorker. It's Pizza Hut's biggest pizza for the biggest games. The big New Yorker is massive and it's just 10 bucks. Order the big New Yorker ahead of the game. 10 bucks for a limited time. Don't forget to pizza before the hut@pizza hut.com or in the app. Listen, we all know weekends Pizza Hut big New Yorker, big games, pizza hut.com. go order it right now. Pizza.com or in the app. Hank, what's your hut seat?

[E]

Cool throw my hut hut seat is. It's.

[B]

It's. It.

[E]

It was Alex Honda. I think it's more just pocket walk watchers.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Because people are mad or upset, surprised that Alex Honnold only got paid 500k for doing his climb. But there was.

[A]

Why?

[E]

Because I don't know, I think they see Jake Paul gets like 100 million. It was a big event. Everyone was talking about it. He probably could have got more. But in an article he's. He was. He said, I think it's just Alex Honnold. This is just how he is. He said like I would have done it for free if the bill. If the building let me. I would have done it for free.

[A]

Right. He's. He doesn't seem like a guy who's got a ton of expenses.

[E]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And yeah, it's definitely. It was a huge event. It was probably one of the most talked about things of the weekend. Besides, you know, the playoffs probably had hundreds of millions of viewers. But.

[A]

But that's just.

[E]

That's Just how he is like, that's it again. And it's like he would have. He said it's tough to negotiate when you're like, they probably went to the tables like, can I do this? They're like, yeah, we can get you the clearance.

[B]

He's like, okay, what would it take for you?

[E]

He's like, oh, I'm getting paid.

[B]

What would it take for you to attempt this?

[E]

Also other hot seat would be there, there. There's a couple videos I saw because I, you know, was watching videos that caught on my algorithm and there was. There's videos of now people in Taiwan like starting to try to do it on that tower.

[A]

Bad idea.

[B]

Very bad idea.

[E]

But no one can make it. No one can make it one story.

[B]

I guess the only argument that you can make against Alex Honnold would be like other people that do free solo, he's kind of set the market right now for all their attempts I have.

[E]

But I don't think people shouldn't be free soloing.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

No, agreed. I have a question though. If he slipped and died, would they have kept it live?

[B]

No, they had a 10 second delay.

[A]

Okay. So then I'm out on this whole thing. Thing. It's like the Willendas. And I know that's very up of me, but I also, I can't watch something without knowing there's actually a fear or. Oh, a world where someone could die. Counterpoint. Yeah, that would have been nuts.

[D]

If, if the, if the, if you're watching live and it just cuts out, it's like, oh my God, something just happened.

[A]

Yeah, then you would.

[D]

There would be videos.

[A]

There would be videos. You're right.

[D]

You would still get that like, holy, something just happened.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

It should be been 500,000 if you make it and then like 3 million if you die. Goes to your family that you could just slip. Right. But he didn't. But he obviously wasn't trying to die. It would have been very funny if he had started it and gone. Gone up like 10ft and then intentionally slipped off and been like oops and fell to the ground. Be like, okay, let's try this again. Let's try this again.

[A]

Yeah, I just, I don't know. There's. It's the same thing as the Willendas. I got out on the Wallendas, the stream. So I was like, they're not going to show if he falls. And I know that's fucked up, but isn't that. Yeah. The whole idea of watching is like he could fall and you could see this.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it makes me uncomfortable.

[A]

I'm not rooting for him to fall, but the idea of it is, like, for the viewer.

[D]

I still think you would get that effect, though. And then you would have the choice of whether you wanted to watch it or not, because you know that it would be everywhere on.

[B]

On.

[E]

On.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

On x dot com. The everything app. Because it is all happening on.

[B]

Especially, like, snuff films. Yeah. They don't want to watch.

[A]

I just recently, I don't know what happened. I had videos I just got back into.

[B]

Wait, what?

[A]

Ukrainian drone strikes on. Personal drone strikes on Russians.

[B]

Not good.

[A]

That just got back in my feed. I watched. I saw like five of them last.

[B]

Not good. What kind of head videos? We talk about good head videos.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[E]

But like, I was watching like an all 22 video and then, then the IT auto played ahead video, and then I scrolled up and up and it was like four in a row.

[A]

Yeah. Fasoli's video got in the porn algorithm.

[D]

Yes. I was just about to say that I was watching the Fasoli video and, like, out loud at my desk, and Zach was right next to me. Just immediately after. Just middle of deep, deep penetration.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And it was like. That makes sense. Twitter thinks this. This is porn.

[A]

Fasoli has always said that if he was a hot chick, he would do.

[D]

Only fans on the record. He's always been on the record.

[A]

If everything about him was different, he would make a lot of money on only fans. Okay. Cool tone.

[E]

My cool tone is pfd.

[B]

Oh, why is that?

[E]

You're taller than Diego Pavia. Yeah. 1 8th of an inch.

[B]

Let's go. Love that. How tall is he?

[E]

He's five, nine, and seven eighths.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

He was listed as six feet on the Vanderbilt media guide.

[B]

He was? Yeah.

[D]

I should do that for the combine official height listings. People would.

[E]

I like that idea.

[A]

Some people would be very, very, very upset. Yeah.

[B]

What do you mean, official height? Oh, for, for the Barcelona.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or listen, I'd like to get ahead of the story. I'm also five, nine, like Diego Pavia and seven.

[E]

And how many eighths?

[B]

I've not measured my eighths.

[E]

I thought you're perfectly average height.

[B]

Yeah, it's per. That is average globally.

[E]

I thought 510 was average.

[B]

No, no, globally, 5, 9. It might even be 5, 8. That's the average height. Asia worldwide. I, I, I Have you never.

[E]

What if you take out the NFC West?

[A]

Yeah, right. That's. We're doing the. Hank.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We never do we take all the shortest countries out?

[B]

When we say globally, we mean globally. Right. So 59. Yeah. A lot of great people in history have been 5, 9. A lot of bad people, too. A lot are actually more bad. The. The worst. The worst people ever, I think, have been five, nine, Diego.

[A]

Yeah. But Hitler was six feet in his media guide and.

[B]

Media guide. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's what Goebbels put out.

[A]

Propaganda Max just googled Hitler height. Yeah.

[B]

Look up. What was Mussolini's height? What was he weighing? He was a thick boy.

[A]

Yeah, he was bad.

[B]

BMI from Mussolini. Mussolini only 5, 7. Stalin.

[A]

Stalin was 5, 5.

[B]

Oh. Even short boy. What about Genghis Khan?

[A]

Genghis Khan.

[E]

Shockingly, there's no definitive historical record.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Most estimates are between 5, 6 and 5 8.

[D]

Hoss, though, absolute horse.

[A]

Big time.

[E]

He was a horse.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What about Kevin Petullo?

[A]

Kevin Petullo. What's your hot seat?

[E]

Pft.

[B]

Oh, he's big boy six two. My hot seat is our good friend Sam Schwarzstein. Yeah, it's back on the hot seat. It feels like every six months there's a. There's a personal attack made against Sam Schwartzstein by the President of the United States. And he had the most personal one against Sam. Yesterday.

[A]

He.

[B]

He posted on Truth Social. I can't watch the new NFL kickoff. Like many others, I just turned my head. Who has the right to make such a change directly aimed at Sam Schwartzein. So, just so disparaging to the game. The original was big time, big time. Strong, glamorous, and exciting. He's right. Donald Trump is right. The former kickoff was big time. That was a big time play.

[A]

I liked the new kickoff, but yes, it was a big time.

[B]

It was a big time play. I started thinking about other things that are big time in sports.

[A]

Slam dunks.

[B]

Slam dunks are big time.

[A]

Big time.

[B]

Heavyweight bouts are big time.

[A]

Big time.

[B]

Penalty shots in any sport. That's big time.

[A]

Big time.

[B]

The final round of the U.S. open. That's big time.

[A]

That's very big time. Any.

[B]

Any other big times? Hank.

[A]

Master Sunday big time.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Or is moving day big time?

[B]

I'd say. I'd say bombing one down the fairways. Big time. Like the first tee.

[A]

That's a big time.

[B]

The first tee at the Masters is big time.

[A]

Big time.

[B]

Pro bowl, big time, Big time. Big time used to be big time. Who has the right to change the Pro Bowl?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Brian Dable hired his offensive coordinator for the Titans, so there we go. Okay.

[C]

The.

[A]

The, the. The. Everyone, everything Is the dominoes are falling.

[B]

They are.

[D]

Feels like, I guess he's still opened up.

[B]

He.

[D]

He's still. The contingency of not getting.

[A]

Not getting the Raiders. What is this new thing they keep doing this. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. I think Clint Kubia's gonna be the Raiders coach right after the Super Bowl. Could be. Yeah.

[B]

Seems like that's probably what they're waiting for.

[A]

The Cardinals interviewed anyone? I feel like that's one I haven't heard.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. To be honest, I forgot about the Cardinals.

[A]

Yeah. Michael Floor interviewed. Okay. So they've interviewed someone. Michael Floor.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There has been an interview. Good. For the Cardinals.

[B]

All right. Max, did you. You interviewed Brian Dable, right?

[D]

Sure did. Didn't want to come.

[B]

Why not?

[D]

I'm not in the room.

[B]

My cool throne was going to be Diego Pavia. Yeah, I guess. My other cool throne is 80 for Brady because they're going to have to make another 80 for Drakey.

[A]

Are they.

[B]

Are we going to get another movie, Hank?

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

They.

[B]

They should.

[E]

Depends on if four women, you know, make that truck.

[B]

Yeah, they should. But yeah, Diego Pavia was my. My cool throne. That is. It's a big difference between being five, nine and being six feet. Trust me, it's a massive difference.

[A]

Massive.

[E]

What about 5, 9 and 5, 10?

[B]

Not that big of a difference.

[A]

Even.

[B]

I'd say 5, 8 and 5, 10. Pretty much the same height.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is. I don't even like Victoria's Secret. I don't know who else sells lingerie. Because Sydney Sweeney's getting into the broad game and it's over. It's a wrap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Probably the most. No doubt. It's. It's similar to when we started selling cheesesteaks. Like, duh. Why wouldn't you do that? Sydney Sweeney selling bras in for all sizes, all sizes.

[B]

Love that. Love that very much.

[A]

For. I might buy one.

[B]

This is a creepy. This is an amazing advertisement.

[A]

I might buy one for myself.

[B]

Can we. Can we show more of these?

[A]

The Sydney Sweeney bra is going to crush the guarantee.

[B]

I think she's going to tap into. Dudes are going to buy these bras.

[A]

Just because I just said I'd buy them one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Myself.

[B]

Because Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

Yeah. No, I want to buy one. I want to look at it. I know that's up and perverted, but I don't care. Call me a up pervert. Damn nipples.

[B]

If she. If she personally tried on every bra.

[A]

Jim Schwartz should get one.

[B]

How much. How much would they Go for.

[A]

I don't know. I don't want to answer that one. I do not want to.

[B]

Was that a bon?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It's a fact.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Sydney Sweeney bras. This is going to be. She's going to do well. Congrats to Sydney Sweeney becoming a billionaire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My cool throne is Betty the Bull all time respect move. Benny the Bull has announced he's going to retire his number number one now that Derrick Rose's number one has been retired in the rafters.

[E]

That's classic.

[A]

That's so class.

[B]

That's big time.

[A]

Like, that's a big time move.

[B]

Yeah. Credit to Benny the Bull. Why did Derrick Rose have to negotiate to get number one from Benny the.

[A]

Bull when he became a Chicago at the same time? But he's saying, hey, you know what? What? My time has passed.

[B]

Because that's. That is a all class move for Benny the Bull. If Derrick Rose came in, took his number, then retired, and then Benny says, you know what? You earned it. You get to keep it for forever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what's Benny gonna wear?

[A]

I don't know, Mikey.

[B]

Betts are 23.

[A]

He said 99, 77, or 42 would look great. 42 is so fire, though. Gotta keep it open for Future Superstar in 2046.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So the rhinestone is definitely going to do a Betty the Bull retirement night.

[B]

I think 50 would be good on a bull, right?

[A]

50 would be good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Zach, your hot seat.

[B]

Cool throne.

[A]

My hot seat. Max is just looking at Sydney Sweeney pictures now. And it's just like, dude, stop. We're. It's hard to podcast.

[D]

Use whoever brought this up.

[A]

I did, but that's because it's in the news.

[D]

Yeah. Now my job is to bring the news to you guys.

[A]

Oh, Zach, do you remember my hypothetical I throw out to you last week? What was the hypothetical about if Sydney Sweeney ever came in the office, do an interview on pmt?

[F]

Oh, yeah. Trying to help support. Yeah.

[A]

Sydney Sweeney came into this office and did pmt and she was like, hey, I forgot to wear a bra today. Do you guys have a pair of hands that could just support me during this interview? And Zach had to do that. What are you doing it? And he got very uncomfortable.

[B]

It'd be a gentleman.

[F]

Anything for the team, but do it.

[B]

Maxine, you go back to that. The dress that she wore, ironically, maybe the most iconic picture of Sydney Sweeney is not involving a bra whatsoever. No, the. The. The other dress further up. You know the dress.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The best dress ever worn by anybody.

[A]

The Best dress of all time.

[B]

That. That.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

That dress, I don't think has bras.

[B]

I'm gonna say.

[A]

Although I don't understand. Sometimes women wear bras and they're like, I'm not wearing a bra, but I am wearing a bra. I don't get it. I don't get any of this shit.

[B]

I'm gonna say it. I don't think she should get in the bra business.

[A]

No. Because she. When you put on the bra.

[B]

Bras for thee, but not for me.

[A]

No. She. That was just one dress. She wears bras.

[B]

But I don't think that we should encourage. Just go back to the dress again.

[A]

We don't eat a cheesesteak every meal.

[B]

That is true.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

It's good dress.

[A]

It's a good dress. All right, Zach, go. Go ahead.

[F]

My hot seat. This week's gonna be a former Olympic snowboarder Ryan Wedding. Love this story's going on there.

[E]

Yeah, I love this story.

[B]

He's the new. He's a new El Chapo.

[F]

Yeah. FBI saying, like, modern day El Chapo.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

They're saying, like, roughly estimated 60 tons of cocaine trafficked a year for numbers. Olympic ski boarder, Canadian, former Olympic snowboarder.

[E]

In like, the early 2000s.

[A]

That's awesome.

[E]

And then switched to trafficking drugs for the cartel Pablo.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

Pablo s. Snowbar.

[F]

There's, like, conflicting reports that he turned himself in at the Mexican. Mexican embassy.

[E]

He did turn himself in.

[F]

There's like. Then I saw a statement where the lawyer is saying that he didn't surrender and that he was apprehended. So I don't. I'm not sure which one it is. There's, like, people going back and forth on that.

[E]

I'm on his side.

[A]

So he was, like, a badass.

[B]

He also snowboarder.

[A]

And then he's like, you know what? More badass. I'll be a drug runner.

[B]

He also, yeah. Murdered a bunch of people.

[A]

Oh, not cool. That's totally not cartel. That's actually not chill.

[B]

That's just snowboarder now. He needs to chill out a little bit.

[A]

Snowboarders shouldn't be doing that.

[E]

That's not chill disavow murder if you're in the cartel. That's just the cost of doing business.

[A]

That is true. It is the cost of doing business.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

And then my cool. See, this week was going to be.

[A]

Get Sydney Sweeney off the screen.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's distracting. You brought it up, but you kept it. Thank you.

[B]

We also brought up Fasoli and you haven't shown that video on repeat over and over.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

[F]

My cool cool through this week was going to be ice cream enjoyers. I don't know if you guys seen.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Ice cream might save the planet.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Wait, like the healthy fats and ice cream can protect you against so many things.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Ice cream is actually the healthiest thing you can eat. That's what they said.

[F]

Lipid lowering fat burning, cancer reducing.

[A]

Oh.

[F]

What are our thoughts on those things?

[A]

Love it with ice cream.

[B]

I hate lipids.

[A]

I. I hate lipids.

[F]

Get them gone.

[A]

Scoop up ice cream.

[B]

Does it matter what kind of ice cream? Soft serve, traditional.

[F]

As long as you got those healthy fats in their pft. Like your method of consumption, man, you got to get those healthy fats.

[B]

Where are we seeing this?

[A]

Some report.

[F]

I was seeing it on their the everything app. But it also has there's some journals in the. If you check out the thread intensively, there's accredited colleges being like, hey, look at this study. This study goes crazy. And we're talking. We're talking about colleges that aren't easy to get into.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Maybe some Ivy Leagues talking cream.

[D]

Shout out Dalton. This guy's name.

[F]

50% reduction in diabetes.

[B]

I believe a day. I believe it.

[A]

Okay. Good job, Zach. Let's get to our interview with DeAndre.

[B]

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[E]

Soupy.

[A]

Chunky.

[E]

Soupy. But besides that, nice weather.

[B]

So it said Campbell's Chunky has the food covered. So what else are you.

[E]

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[E]

Hell yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is DeAndre Hopkins from the NFL. Five time Pro Bowler, three time first team all pro, two time second team all pro. One of the best receivers in the last decade in the NFL. DeAndre, thank you for joining us. Let's start with an easy question first. Are you, are you retired yet?

[C]

I am not retiring.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

I averaged 15, 15 yards of catch last year, man, before retiring off that.

[A]

I agree. So, so do we know where you're gonna, are you gonna go back to Baltimore? I know obviously free agencies is still a couple months away, but have you had any thoughts?

[C]

I've had some thoughts, of course, A lot of thoughts. A lot of thoughts. But you know, I mean, I love Lamar, I love Derek, loves a flower. So who knows, man? But you know, they, they have a new, new head coach which will bring on new offense coordinator and you know, let's see if, you know, let's see.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, the hands are still there. I don't think those are ever going to go away. Do the hands feel as good as they've ever been?

[C]

Oh, man, I think even better, man.

[A]

Oh, even better.

[B]

Get better with age?

[C]

Yeah, man. You know, it depends, man. You know, I learned, I learned a couple little, little tricks to the trade, you know, as I got older, man, how to, how to keep these things at up to par.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, you're a lot of fun to watch. I always root for you when you're playing because you, you do still have that ability where you can Catch anything that' by which is. It's great to see. I'm always curious to know you're. You're in Baltimore this past season. What's Lamar like as a, as a person? Like, what is he a main reason that attracted you to Baltimore? And if so, like, what's that relationship been like as it's grown?

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I mean, Lamar, I think, is the sole reason I went to Baltimore. I mean, I don't think I could have after playing with Pat, you know, went many places. You know, I think that was, that was the first option. Lamar is dope, man. Lamar is cool. He's, he's, he's. He's the player in the locker room that talks to everyone. He's the quarterback that goes around, talks to the rookies, talks to the equipment staff, talks to everyone in the building. Lamar talks to and loves them and he loves them. So you know Lamar, man, you know, he's a guy that if you know him, you know, he loves to talk and he loves a joke. You know, he's just like a down to earth cool dude about his religion about football. That's it.

[A]

Yeah. Obviously the, the ending of the season wasn't great. With the Week 18 game. How long, just curious, like, how long does it take to mentally flush that out or is it still kind of fresh in your head?

[C]

Honestly, man, that. That shit's still fresh in my head. You know, it really is just to know that we could have been in the playoffs and the team that we had, but I feel like everyone knew that if we got in the playoffs then, you know, this is a team to watch out for. And we felt that as well. Kind of how we started off and how we ramped up towards the end of the year. So it still sucks just knowing that we built that momentum starting off 1 and 5 to, you know, be. To, to be in the playoffs and you know, be that close. So. Yeah, man, that. It's tough.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of the playoffs too, your former coach, Mike Vrabel, I know you're only there for a year with him, but, but he's in the Super Bowl. What is it about Coach Rabel? Because the turnaround is insane. They lost so many games last year, now they're in the Super Bowl. What does he do that's. That's different than other coaches that has that, that the Patriots back in the Super Bowl.

[C]

Right. I mean, I would say what he does different than other coaches is he's, I mean, some co. You know, some coaches, I'm not going to say he's different than every other coach, but what separates him is just how relatable he is to players. He played ball, you know, and not a lot of coaches. I can, you know, say we're actually out there in the field playing ball, but Raybone knows football. He'll get down in. In the dirt with you. He'll. He'll block you. He'll try to run around on you at practice, you know, He'll. He'll. He'll put his hands on you, you know, and so I, you know, I run a lot of coaches that will actually get down in the dirt and put on the, the pads and, And, And. And meet you, you know, right there on the field. But I was in. I was in Houston with Brable also.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Was in Houston and, you know, then later, my head coach. So Brave will not have a long history and a long relationship. He's. He's like a father figure to me off the field, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you notice at all that his strength is. Is his strength still the same from when you were in Houston with him to Tennessee? Because we know him fairly well, and every time we see him, like, he'll give you, like, a slap on the back or a shake, and it's just like, kind of break your hand. You're like, dude, just chill out a little bit.

[C]

Yeah, no, I think. I think verbal strength is still there. He works out all the time, man. He. He thinks he's a player a little bit, you know. You know, if you ask him, he probably think he can go out there and. And still catch a touchdown. But. Nah, man. Brave but very works out still. That's my guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you saying Andy Reid never did that? He never tried to light you up in practice?

[C]

I mean, you know, you know, with his eyes. With his eyes just, Just, Just. Just piercing. Just piercing through you when you. When you don't do something.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

So I got a question about. About the Ravens. So you signed with the Ravens March 13, 2025. And you get. You have to learn about the, the rivalry with Pittsburgh. You have to, you know, become a part of that lore, part of that history. How long did it take you to actually hate the Pittsburgh Steelers?

[A]

It.

[C]

It didn't take me long. Especially once we started off 1 and 5, I was like, I hope Pittsburgh loses every game.

[B]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[C]

No, but especially towards the end of the year, where we needed Pittsburgh to lose a couple games for us to, you know, have that advantage and, and win a division, but obviously, you know that that wasn't the case. So, you know, I would say I've always been a fan of Mike and, you know, a Rod. So, you know, for me, it was kind of hard for me to be like, man, just. Just Pittsburgh, because I love the players and some of the coaches over there, but towards the end of the year, when we needed Pittsburgh to lose some games, I was definitely like, man, yeah, let's. Let's. Let's go, Dolphins. Come on. Let's. Let's.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of that they brought the priest out to. To bless that side of the end zone where you guys ended up missing the kick. Isn't it, like, that's not fair.

[C]

Oh, man, I. I hope they get investigated. That guy never needs to come to a Pittsburgh game again, man. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that. But. But, you know, Loop obviously missed the kick, man, but, you know, there are a lot of things that went into that, man. You know, he's a rookie, man. You gotta. You gotta take it easy on the guy.

[B]

Yeah, he'll be okay.

[A]

How. Speaking of coaches, your coach in college, Dabo Sweeney, you now. You helped build Clemson because obviously they go on to win national championships. It's. Now, actually, let's start here. How are you feeling about Clemson watching that offense the last couple of years? Cause I feel like it's not been great, man.

[C]

You know, I'll be honest, I grew up in Clemson, so I can say this, but it's been horrible. It's been terrible. You know, I'm happy that they got back to the basics, bringing Chad Morris back in, the guy who evolved Clemson offense, to where we were averaging 30, 35 points. They brought Chad Morris back this year, if you guys didn't know that.

[A]

But.

[C]

So I'm. I'm happy that. That we kind of got back to the basics and, you know, that kind of offense, but it's been terrible, man, to watch. Horrible.

[A]

Yeah. What about. So Dabo, when. When he's recruiting you and he's bringing you on and he's, you know, your three years with him, what is. What is he different as a coach, like, because we all see the outside and dabble. He can be a little corny, but he obviously gets guys to play hard for him. So, you know, what's your. What was that whole process like with him?

[C]

Dabo demands the best out of you.

[A]

You.

[C]

You know, obviously, as you see the corny jokes, as some of y' all say, you know, the. The funny country stuff, you know, the Dabo Says and does. But Dabo legit pushes everyone to be the best. And he's, he's a coach that will. He's. He's. He's a religious man. But on Saturdays, all that goes out the window. You know, Dabo will, will curse you out like the old Alabama football coaches and you know, know that this is who he is. You know, he's, he's that guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You, you, you know, he, he will hit you with, with every curse word he can, but you know he loves you.

[A]

Do you think it's a little weird that he runs down the hill first before the team?

[C]

I like that. I like that. I think he does that to make sure he still has it.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Because I. Every now and then we're like, hey, dude, just wait for the team. I mean, have you. When you were on the team, did anyone ever fall down the hill?

[C]

Oh, man, the guy actually broke his leg. And I think after I left there, someone else did something also. But yeah, God basically just like up his whole knee, man. Messed up his whole knee, man.

[A]

Did he have to swear?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Did he have to get carted off the, off the hill? Like, what happened?

[C]

I think, I think they truck. Yeah, he definitely got card off the hill. They. Well, they, they carried him off the hill, but yeah, he was, he was in bad shape. I think he was a walk on man, so.

[A]

Oh, that's brutal.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, if it was the NFL, he might would have got a settlement.

[A]

Yeah, you can't be getting carted off the field as a walk on, though. You got to find a way to just get off the field.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was bad. I'm pretty sure his girl was probably over there.

[B]

Like, damn, that stuff. You almost, you almost have to take reps to that in practice before you do it live.

[A]

And that's like, that's basically if he's not playing, going down the hill is everything. That's your whole Saturday. Yeah, you just gotta get down the hill without blowing out your knee.

[C]

Come on, man. That, that's, that's the reason he came to Clemson, man. And you know, unfortunately he got cut short.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I got a couple questions about your, your career and time spent with the Houston Texans. First of all, I, I do a podcast with Arian Foster and whenever I ask him who the best player that he's ever played with was, he always says it was. It was Andre Johnson that he. He's the best that he's ever seen do it. So you come to the league and Andre's Right there on the team. What was that like, getting to play with him and watching him work close up?

[C]

Oh, man, was crazy. Seeing Andre as big as he was, I was like, damn, how's somebody this big, this fast? You know, that was, that was my first take. I'm, can I come from college where everybody's, you know, we're, we're in the, the 200. We're trying to hit 200 pounds. But then I get to the NFL and I see a 220 pound receiver running the four five, four, four. At that age, I'm like, damn, man, is, is, am I, am I meant for this? Just because physically Andre is, is a specimen, but man, seeing him work, the dude never, never took off practice. He never missed reps unless he was actually hurt. And he was competitive. So, you know, it was dope. But Andre was, was my biggest critic. You know, I would go out there and, and have like a catch on the sideline. I have, I would have one foot in, one foot out, and obviously that's not good. You know, come from college as a rookie, I'm like, you know, I'm thinking I'm doing something. Andre's like, man, what the are you doing, man? That's, that's not good enough. Like, you got to have two feet in. He was like, if you want to play in this league, like, you got to learn this. And he would make me breath that after practice. He would make me go out and do stuff and I'm like, damn. Like, man, this. I thought I had a receiver coach, you know, I'm like, damn, I got, I got, I got two, you know, but it was dope, man. It was funny. He made me a better player.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then second question. About time with the Texans, you had a lot of great highlights there. Just a walking high highlight reel. Maybe your best catch that you ever made ended up not counting. We always talk about, like the greatest plays that you forget because they didn't count. I think it might be you. I think you might have the best catch in NFL history. That did not count. It was against the Dolphins. And can you walk us through that play? Because I love going back and watching it.

[C]

Yeah, man. I would walk you through that play and I would tell you later that that reflect apologized because he knew that wasn't a pass interference.

[B]

Good.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Which is, which is messed up because that was a crazy catch in from that angle, I could kind of see how he thought. But you know, when you do things sometimes so spectacular on the field, the ref just really don't doesn't comprehend that, like, this is a spectacular catch. This person didn't do anything to. To alter the other person. And it was one of those where desean. And I knew that he was coming to me. It was no matter what. I was like, desean, throw this ball, however. And he threw it and gave me a chance, so I knew it was going to be in a certain position, and the defender was. He beat me towards the route, and I knew it was a back shoulder, so I kind of caught it with my left and as I was falling, brung it through my legs.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And somehow I got called for a pass interference.

[A]

Yeah, I'm watching it right now. It's bullshit. That wasn't pass interference.

[B]

Did you have a moment where you thought, like, before you saw the flag, you're like, yeah, I just did that shit. That's the best catch that's ever happened.

[C]

Yeah, I did. I did, obviously. And I was like, what? Like, I'm like, man, this. Oh, yeah, this is. To myself. I was like, how the. Did I catch it? But, you know, when you're in that moment and you're playing you, you know, you're just taking it in. But once I saw the flag, I definitely almost wanted to pick that flag up and throw it back at the ref.

[A]

But, you know. Yeah, actually, it sounds like you got, like, the ref basically saying, you're too good for me to be able to officiate this properly. Like, that's really what it sounds like, is you're. You made such an incredible play. The ref was like, there's no way. This can't be a penalty. I have to throw something.

[C]

Yeah, basically. And, you know, I think as the game evolve, maybe they'll start challenging referee calls. Who knows?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, on one hand, it's good that he apologized, that he said, like, hey, I'm sorry I blew that call on the second.

[F]

That.

[B]

That almost makes it worse where it's like, you know, yeah, okay. Yeah, I. I already know you screwed up.

[C]

Yeah. Like, I knew it. And I think their sideline knew it too, because their whole sideline was like, oh, yeah, you usually the sideline, if they. If they think it's a PI, they're like, push off. Push off. But they were just like, yeah, and now.

[A]

But now it lives forever being the. The best catch that never counted.

[B]

I think it should be.

[A]

So that's even better almost, in a weird way, now that we're removed from it, be like, hey, that's the number one catch that never counted.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Do you. So you. So playing on the Texans, Cardinals, Titans, Chiefs, Ravens, can you name all the quarterbacks that threw you a touchdown? I think there's 15. A lot of Texans.

[C]

All right, is. Is that like top or the most? I'm not sure.

[A]

I don't know if it's tied for the most, but it's a lot. Like I was looking at the list, it's a lot. And it's also some very funny names. Games.

[C]

Masha Case. Kingdom. Deshaun Watson. Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson. Pat brock. Oswald.

[F]

Yep.

[A]

5.

[C]

Matt Shop. Did I say Matt?

[A]

Yeah, you said Matt Shop.

[C]

Okay. Did I say. I said Case Kingdom? Did you put Case on?

[A]

Yeah, I think you said Case. You're going to struggle with some of these.

[C]

Oh, oh. Will Levis.

[A]

Yep. I don't know if you said desean Watson. So Will. That. That's your number one.

[C]

Will Levis. Deshaun Watson.

[A]

You're missing some legends.

[C]

Brian Hoyer.

[A]

Yep. In our eyes, legends. I should clarify.

[C]

All right, all right, all right. Oh, man. My guy from Pittsburgh. Freak. Come on. I'm blanking.

[A]

You got this.

[E]

Shoot.

[C]

Where. Where are we? We had like seven. That's it. We're.

[A]

We're at like nine. Ish. I. I know the names that you're missing.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. All Texans right now.

[E]

Actually, one.

[A]

One Titan you're missing, but the rest are Texans.

[C]

Oh, Ryan, obviously. Yeah.

[A]

Ryan Tanil. This is my favorite list of like, just guys that it's. It's basically the ultimate remembering dudes. So I'll give you. I'll give you a couple.

[F]

Ready?

[A]

You forgot TJ Yates.

[C]

Oh, man. Come on.

[A]

Seven from him. Ryan Mallet.

[E]

Rip.

[A]

Tom Savage is who I think you were looking for.

[E]

Tom.

[A]

Tom Savage. And then the last one is you caught a touchdown pass from Brandon Whedon. Yeah. Wow.

[C]

You know what I think the Brandon Whedon story. What? I mean, if I'm not mistaken, it might have been against the Titans, but I think Brandon Weeden threw me the ball back to back. I had a. It was the crazy. If I'm not mistaken, it was against Titans and it was a go ball in the red zone. I caught the first one and the ref called a penalty. Brandon goes. I'm throwing it to you again. Just don't push off those. And it's touched out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When you got back, when you got backup quarterback, sometimes it's the best because they're just like, like, look, the play just get open up the leader.

[A]

That's. Yeah, you were probably a backup quarterback's Best friend for that reason. Yeah, I'm watching right now. You're exact. You're exactly right. It was against the Titans. He threw you like a 60 yard go ball to get down to the, the. To the 15 yard line. And then he's just like, I'm spamming it, I'm throwing it again. Like, be ready.

[C]

Just back to back in. And. And the offensive coordinator at the time was George Gossey, who just went to Georgia Tech.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Offensive coordinator. I was with him in Baltimore. And George Gossip would tell the quarterbacks if hop is one on one or if there's two people on them throwing the ball.

[A]

I. I feel like that they probably were like, also, if there's three people, maybe throw him the ball as well.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You. You had a couple. I think there was one in Arizona where it was like three on one and you just jumped up in the air and grabbed and just looked at all three of them. You're like, like, why are you guys even trying?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was against the Bills. Not. Yeah, that was against the Bills. I've had some great catches against the Bills last year. My first, My first touchdown catch last year was against it. My first catch was against the Bills last year.

[A]

That's gotta be a good feeling. So the speaking of the super bowl obviously didn't go your way last year, but what was it in like super bowl week? Did it feel very different? Did the. Did the game, you know, starting the game, being in that moment, how. How could you describe it versus just like a week 15 game?

[C]

Oh, yeah, it's. It's a big difference. You know, obviously you go outside and you see the whole street is paraded with all NFL stuff. But I would say, you know, those guys been there before. Two years.

[F]

Well, shoot.

[C]

You know, with two years back to back, they won. So I would say the whole staff, the whole organization, you know, knew what to do. You know, obviously there's a couple, couple guys on the team who are new to it first time, like myself. But I would say it. It felt like a regular week. Just, you know, the streets just going outside. Everything is. Is super bowl this, super bowl that. And, you know, I think I thought it was kind of interesting how half the hotel is fans and half the hotel is us, you know, so, you know, I'm thinking like, all right, we're going to go somewhere separate, be far out and come in. But, you know, we were like right in the middle of it in New Orleans, which I thought was cool too, because you fans could see us walking throughout the hotel and in places like that. But yeah, man, it was, it was, it was, it was. It was cool. You know, you got Pat Mahomes, obviously, who is the leader of that team and made sure everybody was ready to go. But, you know, we, we faced a. We faced a Philly team who was hungry, man. And, you know, you saw the results.

[A]

Yeah, and, And I love the, the story about wearing the, the coat for your dad. Can you tell that the. The for the super bowl you're wearing. Was it a mink coat coat?

[C]

Yeah, it was a mean coat that my dad had in the 90s. He. He passed away in 1992, so, you know, with 1993, but it was just, you know, just a, A jacket that was passed down from, from him to me that, you know, I was like, man, if I ever get a chance to, to play a Super bowl or a special moment, you know, I want to wear this jacket, you know, just to kind of, you know, give, give, give, you know, honor to my dad. But yeah, even though we lost, I still think it was. It was cool that I got got, you know, a chance to play in the Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, that and giving every touchdown ball to your mom.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's really cool. I. I hope that she has the Brandon Weeden one in a special place, man.

[C]

She. She might.

[E]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't. I don't. I don't know. I don't know if she. She has it out. It might be in storage somewhere, but she has it.

[A]

We got to get the Brandon Whedon ball in a real nice spot.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, seriously, man. Seriously, someone has that ball.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, when you were playing for the Texas, you guys were, you know, a good team and the playoffs come around every year. Did you, did you even check the schedule or you're like, we know, we. Saturday afternoon.

[C]

Yeah, I never, I never checked this guy. I knew we was playing Saturday. It was. Yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was definitely one of those. Where. It was. It was tough, man, for us to get that first round by.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, you got.

[C]

You gotta think. I mean, back then it was afc. It was, it was. It was the Patriots, man. You. You're not getting that number one seed, man, unless you. You're going through the Patriots back then, you know, and Alex Smith was putting us out the playoffs too, so.

[B]

So, yeah, yeah, it would have been nice to get Saturday night or, or Sunday, you know, at some point on, On Sunday. But instead it was always like, yeah, the Texans or the Bengals. Those two teams are always gonna be playing Saturday afternoon.

[C]

Or the Coats, you know, the Colts. Yeah. Or the Coast.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[C]

Yeah, you're, you're right. Yeah, the Chargers. The charges was, was almost there. Sometimes they might get in once every couple years as well.

[B]

Yeah, I, I, I. This might be a dumb question, but you've played in a lot of different NFL stadiums. From a, from a receiver standpoint, are there some stadiums where it's harder to track the ball for?

[A]

Sure.

[C]

For sure. Especially the new stadiums where they think that the, the concert lights are, you know, the best. Man, it's, it's actually a disadvantage. Yeah, but, yeah, no, especially more, More so the newer stadiums where they come in and, and they want to add the lights for the prom games and, you know, the concerts and all that stuff.

[A]

Yeah. I know this is a little weird question because you're still playing, but is there a receiver that you watch right now and you're like, man, that guy is just different, and, and people don't give him enough respect?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I would, I would definitely say, man, there are, there are a couple, but one of my favorites that I love watching who doesn't get credit, I would say Scary Terry. Terry.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[B]

Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, he's awesome. He's, he's just contested. Catch machine.

[C]

Yeah. Scary Terry. Mascara Terry. Ever get on the team? Well, you know, with, I mean, obviously, you know, what the Redskins did a couple years ago was, was amazing, but, you know, Scary Terry is, is going to be a good one.

[B]

Would you, would you like to play with him at some point in your career?

[C]

I like Washington, but, you know, I like Washington as a city. You know, good food, good restaurants.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Yeah. But, yeah, I, I, I'm not sure about, you know, I grew up a Redskins fan.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I think that might be enough for me.

[B]

So, so that's a maybe I'm hearing a maybe from.

[A]

No, I think.

[B]

Is that a maybe? What if I said please? What if I said please? We would love to have you in.

[C]

D.C. oh, man, you, you guys, you guys got enough receivers? You got Debo, you guys, Scary Terry and y', all, Y'.

[E]

All.

[C]

Yeah, y'. All, y', all, Y' all good, man. Y'. All, Y' all don't need this old guy over there.

[B]

Debo might not be back next year. I think he's a free agent. Does that. I feel like I'm begging you right now. This is sad.

[A]

Don't make him.

[B]

This is sad. You know, we don't want you. We don't want you. Good luck.

[C]

Listen, listen. I think. I think I'm. I'm below on the free agent priority list, I think. What about Isaiah Likely over there? Or, or, or. Or a top free agent signing.

[B]

I like how you don't want to go to D.C. so much that you're trying to. You're trying to give other guys to me. You don't want a guy like me, future hall of Famer. How about. Can I interest you in an Isaiah Likely instead?

[C]

Yeah, man. Come on, man. Hey, I'm just saying, man.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, I got a non football question. What happens at the Met gala? You've been there, you. You've attended. What. What the hell happens? You guys just go and do nothing inside?

[C]

Yeah, man, We. We go in there, we. We. We sacrifice the goat. No, I'm. No, no, no, honestly. Honestly. It's just people hanging out, eating food, and then there's a concert.

[A]

That's it.

[C]

I mean, it's simple as that. You know, you have the. The hangout where people can, you know, chill. There's, you know, food. You got the orders, you got the caviar, you know, all the fancy stuff, and then there's a concert. And basically, you know, that's. That's. That's the Met Gala, man. It's. There's nothing too crazy to it.

[B]

Yeah, it's a lot of pressure, though, trying to figure out what you're going to wear to that. Right, Right.

[C]

Yeah, I know, man. Just. Just. I think. I think. I think it's more pressure just. Just trying to eat the caviar, you know?

[E]

The best.

[C]

No, it was cool, though, man. N. But it. It was fun. A lot of pressure. I would say more so on the designers, because that walk up to. Into it is. That's basically the Met Gala.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. It's not inside.

[B]

No. It's a good point, though. Like, once you get in there, everyone's wearing the most fancy clothes they have. They have to design that food to spill.

[C]

Right. That's what I'm saying, man. You're like, I'm not. I can't mess this suit up, man, or mess these clothes up. So let me stay away. But no, it was. It was cool, man. Cool experience. Jerry Lorenzo is one of my friends. He's. He's the designer who I went with, and he chose me to go, which I thought was cool, but Fear of God Essentials, his clothing line.

[B]

Yeah. Can we talk a little bit about the super bowl and. And how you see this matchup Playing out because I feel like most people are looking at and saying Seahawks have been. Been maybe the best team in the NFL all year. If you look at a big picture, the Patriots, Mike Vrabel, really well coached team. Drake Mays had a great year. They got some good weapons at wide receiver too. How do you, how do you see this playing out?

[C]

Man, I think it's gonna be a good one. I think right now everyone has the Seahawks to win if I'm not mistaken. But you know, Rabel is, is one of the best coaches at situational football. And what, what Drake May is doing right now, now not turning the ball over is how you win the super bowl and just going out letting your defense, you know, control the game. And right now is I think, I think the Patriots is playing some of the best defense in football far as the back end, the front line. And then you know, you got the Seahawks who is explosive. You know those guys are taking shots. They got a running back, they have a couple receivers, you know. But for me I think the key moments who, who win the super bowl is, is going to be the guys that you don't talk about that you don't think about the Cooper Cups, the Mac, the Mac Hollins. You know, I think those guys right there can you know, really determine this game because of course you got your JXs, you know, and you got Stefan who, who all odds are going to be on. But you seen this past game, the trick play to Mac, you know, stuff like that. I think is, is. Is going to be you know those plays that kind of separate greats, you know, who win because both, both are. Are well coached teams. So you know, I don't see it just being a blow away game, but who knows. But variable I think is one of the, if not the best situational coaches in football. And you know the Seahawks obviously is a great offense and a great defense. So it's going to be a good one.

[A]

What do. When you guys played the Patriots this year, did you match up at all against Christian Gonzalez? Because he feels like, like that defense for the Patriots, a lot of it is goes because of how good he is and how he can take away a team's like top weapon.

[C]

Yeah, N. Christian is good. I went against him a couple times but it was more so towards the end of like the end of a half. So he really wasn't playing, you know, pressed up. I think it was an out route. But you know. Yeah, I would definitely say watching film on him from this past year. Christian, Christian definitely does A good job of taking away, you know, key guys, but he does it in a way that he doesn't get a lot of holding calls. He doesn't get a lot of penalties. And I think that's what really separates him from a lot of defenders. He doesn't panic when the ball is in the air. And you see a lot of other guys who can make the play on the ball, but, you know, instead of turning around, they'll kind of just panic a little bit. But Christian does a good job of being composed.

[A]

Yeah. Who's the one cornerback that always gave you the hardest time where, you know, you. You obviously have had an incredible, incredible career. One of the top wide receivers, like I said, at the top. But is there one guy that was like, man, he. Something about him, he just. He was always a matchup, you know, issue for me.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey and myself, I would say we've had some of the best battles I've. I've had. He went to Jacksonville when he got drafted, so play him twice a year for a couple years. And, ah, man, I think it was the first. His rookie year, it was a slant to win a game at Jacksonville, Jalen's rookie year. And after that game, I remember his off season, him talking about it somewhere in the interview. That. That play right there basically changed his game and made him realize that in order for him to be one of the best receipt, best defenders that he has to stop me, who was. Was the reason that Jacksonville brought in a db, because Houston at the time was one division and I was one of the best receivers. And so, you know, his technique and everything, I would say changed after that one play. So I would say, you know, we kind of made each other better because after that I saw his game change and it made me step my game up and do things different also because I knew that Jalen was a guy that I needed to win against or beat to continue to. To, you know, I would say stay at top of the division and, you know, be. Be one of the best receivers in the game at the time. So Jayla and I definitely, we. We groomed and I would say changed each other's game, but, you know, he was one of the first defenders that could go out there and. And run with you and jump with you, tackle you. You know, he's six two. The guy. I basically could be a receiver if he wanted to. But that game at Jacksonville his rookie year, it was a slant that I won. It was big third down to win the game. And he knew the ball was coming to me, and he.

[F]

He.

[C]

He. He talked about that in the interview somewhere. I'm not sure which quarterback I had at the time, but, yeah, that game. That game right there kind of, I would say, changed, you know, the way that Jalen win, you know, went about gardening receivers.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So you played. You played basketball in college, right?

[C]

I did. I played all of two seconds, but I played basketball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

10 minutes and seven games. Never got a point. But you. You've got some teammates that said that you could have been a starter on that team if. If. If basketball was your primary focus.

[C]

Well, to my credit, I would say we had a senior point guard, and I knew I wasn't going to play. I knew I was coming in kind of to learn the offense. I didn't have an off season with the basketball team. I went straight from football to basketball. So it took me half the season to learn the offense, to learn everything. And so, yeah, the next year, I was going to be the starting point guard, to my credit. But, yeah, you know, Dabo was like, nah, man, this. This isn't it. This isn't for you. Come on over here. And I had the realization that there's not many six two point guards in the NBA. Yeah, there's more. Six two wide receivers. So, you know, I just had a realization that. Yeah.

[A]

How awesome was it in high school, just dominating everyone and everything?

[C]

Well, you know, I wanted to play soccer, so I would say I was a little dis. No, it was n. Basketball, football. It was cool, man. I didn't win a state championship in football. 11 in basketball, though, which is, you know, kind of like a bittersweet thing because I love football. But I did want to play soccer and I wanted to play goalie, and. And the high school coach kind of told me not to come out because they had a goalie who's been there three years. So I was trying to. I was trying to go for the trifecta, man.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like you would have been a really good goalie.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, me too, man. I was like, come on. Like, how hard. How hard can it be? Even though, you know. Know, I. I can't say I was. I was the best at. At juggling the football. A soccer ball.

[B]

That's fine. Yeah. And you don't even have to catch the ball. You just have to deflect it if you're going.

[C]

Yeah, right. And I could. I could have rolled it every time. I didn't have to, you know, kick it. Just. Hey, just Come, come over here.

[B]

Come now. Did you play, Would you say that you played basketball like a football player or that you played football like a basketball player?

[C]

I play football like a basketball player. I would say, okay, yeah, I had more, I had finesse. I was a point guard. You know, I wasn't. Even though I would say my highlight of my, my college 10 minute career was being the sixth man off the bench to guard Ian Shumper at Georgia Tech. And I shut him down because they wanted me to play basketball like a football player and go in there and basically foul them and, and, you know, get, you know, give them a little elbow here and there. And I did my job. We won the game.

[A]

Locked him up. Up. Hey, do you know, do you know what a catch is?

[C]

Sometimes. Sometimes I don't.

[A]

Yeah, so what we've had it. We had the Cooper cup yesterday. We had obviously the Khalil Shakir in, in the Bills Broncos game. When you're watching this games, can you tell like, oh, that's a catch, that's not a catch. Because it feels like no one really knows play to play, what actually a catch is.

[C]

Yeah, I think, I think the one that should really be reviewed and the NFL should look at is the Isaiah likely situation.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And the reason I say that is because, you know, those guys got a hard job up there in New York. Obviously, you know, you, you know us as, as, as a player and watching the game, we can say, oh, this is catching. It isn't. But I think certain, certain ones there should be like, it should, it should be solid, more solid than it is. And I say Isaiah likely catch. Well, touch. Well, the one that wasn't a catch, they said because he was in the end zone, he had possession beyond the point of the end zone and he got 12ft down. But they said he needed a third step. So the reason I say that is if a guy crosses the end zone with the ball, that's a touchdown. So why not having possession of one two in the end zone being a touchdown. So I think that that one right there is one that New York should really think about, about the end zone, not, not the end zone and really making it, you know, simple. But I think this year really it woke up the rule changes and the people that go about all that stuff of what is the catch and what isn't a catch. Because some people jobs on the line and some, some teams, playoff hopes are on the line with, with these, these catches and not catches. And I thought that it was corrected back when DEZ Bryant caught the ball and also Calvin Johnson, you know, so it's been going on for years. Obviously, you got the Internet now. You got, you know, tick tock. You got Twitter, where it's, it's more vi. You know, it's easier for people to see.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Then back then when Calvin Johnson and DEZ Bryan, you know, we just talked about it or we had to find it, you know, ourselves. But now it's, it's in your face. And so I think the NFL should change it for sure to, to whatever they change it to and just let it be that. Where it's not black and white.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When they make a rule change like that, do you sit down? Do you, like, do you open up the rule book and you're like, okay, so here's what I need to do to make a catch?

[C]

Nah. Yeah, you, you talk about it going into the season. You know, we have meetings every season about the new rules, so. So, you know, every team has to do it. This is a new rule. This is that they changed this. And so they'll kind of give us a little seminar just to kind of, you know, make you think about it. But you don't go into the game or, or, you know, practice, like, all right, this is this new rule. Unless it's a special teams rule. I think special teams guys and coaches have to kind of go over that more often than, you know, a receiver, you know, practicing, you know, certain things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. DeAndre, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate you coming on. I'm gonna ask you one last question. Roback question. Rho, B, A, C, K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. I don't think you get enough credit for having one of the coolest nicknames as well, Nuke. So how. So it was. You got it as a baby. Like, that is a very cool nickname.

[C]

Yeah. Come on.

[A]

It is. Do you, do you at least, like, was that something when you were growing up that you were not ashamed of? Or, like, hey, that's not my name? Because I do think it's one of the coolest nicknames you could have.

[C]

Yeah, man. I used to tell everyone they called me Nuke because I'm the bomb. I'm the.

[D]

Nah.

[C]

But no, but, yeah, man, I, I, you know, for a while, you know, I didn't know my name was DeAndre because everyone would call me Nuke where I'm from. So. So that's just. That's some people where I'm from doesn't know my real name is DeAndre. Some people just know me as new. So, yeah, obviously, my mom said that I had a little problem as a. As an infant. I wouldn't. I wouldn't suck the pacifier. I would chew it up with my gums and. And my. In my. In my two teeth that I had. And she said it became a problem to where it was the only brand pacifier that I would use. But, well, unlike my other siblings, she said I would just chew it up, up. And she knew then that, you know, I was meant to take football hits.

[B]

Yeah, that's going through mouthpieces. Yeah.

[A]

Nuke is a great nickname. That's a cool ass nickname.

[C]

Hey, man, it's not bad. It's not bad. We gonna stick with somebody asking. I got it. Because I'm the bomb, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I like that. You're gonna go nuclear on people.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Come on, you know? Yeah. Basically.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Well, DeAndre, thanks so much, man. Really great to have you on. We'll definitely have you on again because this was fun. Fun.

[C]

Yeah, man. Appreciate it. Looking forward to it, fellas.

[A]

All right. Thanks, man.

[B]

Good to meet you, dude.

[A]

See you.

[B]

Have a good one.

[A]

Later.

[B]

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[A]

Okay, Hank. FAQs.

[E]

Yes, FAQs. Memes sent these to me and just added in the middle finger emoji for no reason.

[A]

Okay. Nice meme. Slogs going. How big the booth?

[B]

How big the booth?

[E]

It looks like it's pretty small and cramped. That being said, how bad does it smell?

[B]

Well, oldie is here this week. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we got to get him on on Thursday.

[B]

Oh, Max just had a flashback to the oldie booth.

[A]

Oh, man, the oldie booth was. Was something. How bad is the best? I walked. I was.

[C]

Well, we're.

[A]

We're. Yeah, I was walking out of the office yesterday and Oldie was talking about the strip clubs in Canada. You just suck on the. He was like, you just suck on the jugs forever. Like what?

[B]

All right, so two part. Question one, how big the boy booth? Question two. I know it smells crazy in there.

[A]

Booth small. Booth small.

[D]

Right now it doesn't smell. There are times where it does smell bad, but right now it's not. Not so bad. Although there's no ventilation. Yeah, we're just in it. So sometimes.

[A]

What happened to the clocks? We just stopped.

[B]

That's good.

[D]

Great question.

[F]

Yeah, I'm not turning 40 today.

[A]

My birthday is in three days.

[C]

We're in.

[A]

Clocks are in shame.

[F]

There's a vacuum incident, but we're back today.

[A]

What was a vacuum incident?

[F]

Somebody was vacuuming and there's outlets got pulled, plugs got pulled. But we'll be back better than ever.

[E]

The Super Bowls, right? You're one for.

[A]

Yandel's birthday's in three days.

[E]

You're one for eight.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Wait. Yandel have the same birthday as me? I don't know. That's just what the clock says.

[B]

Let's see.

[E]

Where's y.

[A]

No, I think his birthday's in.

[B]

I think the annual birthday.

[A]

Maybe it is. I'm September 9th. Way off. Way the off. That might be my birthday. And it says PFT's birthday's in 224 days. His birthday's Saturday.

[F]

Your birthday was a victim of the vacuum. But you'll be back. You'll be back strong.

[E]

Okay, if you plug a toilet at a get together and no plunger is available, are we using our hand to unplug or asking the host for a plunger clog?

[B]

I think it depends on the size of the get together.

[A]

I have used my hand. No, hold on. Whoa, whoa. That was judgy.

[E]

That's disgust. Oh, yeah. The judgent was a. A disgust.

[A]

I've used my hand in a trash bag. You put your hand in a trash bag.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

You go outside, find a stick.

[A]

The trash bag works. If you're in a. I mean, I guess in a home it might be tough, but you just. Whatever the little trash is next to. Everyone's got one little trash next to the sink. You just get the trash bag out of there, dump it, hand in, unplug.

[B]

You got a pre flush, though.

[A]

Yeah. No, if you're. If you're watching a road game, you got to be flushing flush halfway through. You got to just be. I'm flushing as I'm.

[B]

Yeah, you gotta let. Almost let the toy toilet pull some of the poop out of your butt as it's going down.

[A]

Yeah, you got to be all on. You got to be on top of that. Yeah, that's actually. You get to a certain age where it's a hundred percent your fault because you know the rules. The rules are flush after every.

[B]

Like just every log.

[A]

10 times.

[B]

Every log gets its own flush.

[E]

Hey, fellows with the talk about Sam Darnold looking for Hank at Josh Allen's MVP party. I was curious, what are the.

[B]

Some.

[E]

Some of the best events and perks you've attended, received thanks to success of the show. Thanks.

[B]

Well, I wouldn't say that that Josh Allen's thing was necessarily a perk. It was along the lines of something else. But yeah, I Mean, those parties are fun.

[A]

They're fun.

[B]

We don't really do that many of them, though.

[A]

Yeah. How can I say this without sounding j. We're just getting old. Like, it was. I think it was more fun eight years ago. Super bowl week was a little more fun.

[B]

Yeah. If you're in your going out early 30s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a really fun time to go out at the Super Bowl.

[E]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

But it is. It's. It's more fun just to see people we don't see. Like, that's really the funnest super bowl events we do is, like, you know, going out, like, going out to a dive bar with, like, Rossillo and Stanford, Steve and Chris Long. That's by far my favorite part of the Super Bowl. So I haven't gone to, like, one of the big parties in forever, I.

[B]

Would say, though, so. At the Vegas super bowl, doing a bunch of mushrooms and then going out to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, the wild parties with. With Chris Long and Steve that night. That was because just seeing Mark Davis on mushrooms was an experience. That was.

[A]

He was.

[B]

He was. I was. I was very much.

[A]

He might have been.

[B]

I think he was stone cold. So Taki from PF Changs, he seemed like he was just living large and in charge, but, yeah, those are fun moments, but it's usually based around who you're with.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

All right, last one. Would you rather your team not make the super bowl or make the super bowl and get absolutely embarrassed for the whole world to see?

[B]

Good question. I'd rather not make the Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah. Depends on the embarrassment. I think that embarrassed, like, some of those. The.

[C]

The.

[A]

Like third and fourth bills ones in the 90s.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When it was just a blowout. Blowout. Or like, people don't talk about how.

[E]

The Chiefs got embarrassed last year. Like, that gets. That gets.

[A]

You're right.

[E]

Kind of, like, forgotten.

[B]

You're right.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

They did good.

[D]

Good.

[E]

Point, Hank.

[F]

Point, Hank.

[A]

I'm thinking of, like, the Raiders against the Bucks. That's pretty. Or the. The Niners and Chargers.

[B]

Yeah, that was an ugly one.

[A]

That one was ugly.

[B]

Steve Young pieced up the. The Chargers.

[A]

That line was, like, 14. That was not. Not even supposed. Like, it was ugly, but it was supposed to be.

[B]

Yeah. If you make this, I guess at least you have.

[E]

Have there been other embarrassing ones recently?

[A]

Recently, we've. We've been on some pretty good, like, Super Bowls in terms of. Actually Bucks. Chiefs was kind of embarrassing. The Chiefs didn't score a touchdown.

[E]

Chiefs are a joke.

[A]

Chiefs didn't score a Touchdown.

[B]

Yeah, I would say it's, it's. You do get the two weeks where you get to enjoy your team leading up to the Super Bowl. That's a fun, that's a fun period of time where you just like, like embracing the idea that you get to go to this party, reading all the national media stories about your team.

[A]

It also, I think the embarrassment can go two ways. Like, if you get embarrassed, I would choose not go to the Super Bowl. If you get embarrassed from like the jump, like the Broncos Seahawks. That was embarrassing for the Broncos, literally from the beginning of the game. They got a safety, right? Yep. Yeah. If you get embarrassed like a. You're down, down 10 at halftime and then you end up losing by like 24, I think that you can be like, hey, we were in it for a little bit. But yeah, if you get embarrassed right.

[D]

From the beginning, we're gonna say memes a thousand percent. Put this in.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

So that we could revisit this.

[A]

If the Patriots get embarrassed, what would you say, Hank?

[E]

I'd rather make the Super Bowl.

[A]

What about like really embarrassed?

[E]

I mean, this year it's like, yeah, we gotta. It's our first year coach with a 23 year old quarterback. We'll be back.

[A]

I wasn't talking about you specifically. I'm just saying if you got really embarrassed.

[E]

Why would I get embarrassed if it wasn't me specifically? What? What?

[A]

It could be anyone. It's a hypothetical for anyone.

[E]

But you said ask me specifically. What about you, Hank?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

You're part of hypothetical.

[E]

Oh, it's hypothetical. I'd rather make the Super Bowl.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I mean, Dan Marino never got back.

[E]

True.

[A]

That is true.

[E]

He also lost. Yeah, we don't want that. We want to win.

[B]

Correct, Correct. So wouldn't that be awful if you never got back and you lost? That's part of the.

[E]

Hypothetically. Yeah. That would suck.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hypothetically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Good show, boys. So, Hank, you think you'll get back in pfc? You don't think they'll get back?

[B]

What?

[A]

You should do another five year bet. You should do another five year bet.

[B]

Let's finish this bet first.

[A]

Say.

[B]

Okay, numbers 7, 14, 160, 69, 8, 66.

[A]

I'll go 98. 21. New lottery ball machine coming after Super Bowl.

[B]

Very excited about that.

[A]

Can't wait to break it in. Oh, wait.

[B]

Nope. 66.

[A]

I thought it was 99 for a sweet pug.

[B]

Happy birthday to Michael Greer. He initially entered his name into the database as Michael Greer for today's birthday. And J.J. mcCarthy for today's birthday. It's not J.J. mcCarthy's birthday, but it is Michael Greer's birthday. Happy birthday.

[A]

Love you guys. Happy birthday, Greer. Happy birthday, Greer. Oh, good show.

[D]

Wait, wait, wait. Jack. Jack had 66.

[B]

Jack, you got it.

[A]

Why did you speak?

[D]

Why did you say anything?

[B]

I can't see.

[A]

I can't see what it is. Jack, you've gotten it before, right? Yeah.

[E]

This is my second.

[A]

Oh, okay. Nice. Good job, Jack.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Colton, have you gotten it?

[D]

Colton, you got it.

[A]

How can't you kiss my ass, dude? I like that. Kiss my ass, dude. Good job, Jack.

[C]

Back.

[A]

Way to go. Do you need glasses? Although I need new contact. You're standing up. I'll say this, of all the ones to get it, this might be the like getting it right before we get the new machine is just a waste.

[D]

I've already said that.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Once Memes got it, it was like time for new machine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the chair. Yeah. So actually you. You lost, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Here. Because I. I was trying not to get it. I should try that next time. Mission accomplished.

[B]

Accomplished.

[A]

Good job.

[D]

Impressive.

[A]

Love you guys. Sam. It. Sam.

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