Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March

Summary

Pardon My Take - Episode: Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March
Release Date: March 3, 2025

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1. Introduction

In this episode of "Pardon My Take," hosts Dan Katz and PFT Commenter delve into a range of sports topics, including updates on NFL quarterbacks, college basketball's March Madness, and debates surrounding the face of the NBA. The show also features insightful interviews with Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni and sports journalist Diana Rossini, offering listeners an in-depth look into their perspectives and experiences.

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2. Main Topics Discussed

a. NFL Quarterback Updates

• Matthew Stafford Stays with the Rams
  Dan Katz [03:03]: "Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because the Rams were, you could make the argument like they, they played the Eagles the toughest in the playoffs."

• Aaron Rodgers' Future
  PFT Commenter [04:05]: "I've heard that he's trying to bring DeVonta with him again."

  Dan Katz [05:07]: Discusses potential destinations for Aaron Rodgers, mentioning the Giants and Raiders while expressing skepticism about the Giants' Super Bowl prospects.

b. Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott's Situation

• Franchise Tag Concerns
  Dan Katz [05:07]: "Dak Prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly $90 million. A restructuring could drop it as low as $51 million."

  PFT Commenter [05:56]: "If the team suffers for it, you should care."

• Cap Management Challenges
  Discussions around the Cowboys potentially restructuring Dak Prescott's contract to manage the high cap hit and its implications on the team's financial flexibility.

c. Debo Samuel and Team Performance

• Debo Samuel's Impact
  PFT Commenter [07:52]: "Debo's very fun to watch when he's in good shape."

  Discussions highlight Debo Samuel's contribution to team performance, noting a significant difference in win-loss records when he plays versus when he doesn't ([13:38]).

d. NFL Quarterback Shuffle and Team Strategies

• Franchise Tag & Player Movements
  Conversations about how Matthew Stafford's decision to stay with the Rams affects the broader quarterback landscape, including potential moves involving Aaron Rodgers.

e. College Basketball and March Madness

• Bracketology and Tournament Formats
  Hank discusses the Sun Belt tournament format, emphasizing the advantage for higher-seeded teams ([27:14]).
  Diana Rossini [85:05]: "We have a team that sponsored the team identity by doing these offensive and defensive moves."

  The hosts express excitement and skepticism about various conference tournaments and potential Cinderella stories.

f. Face of the NBA Debate

• Anthony Edwards' Statement
  Dan Katz [28:40]: "Anthony Edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league. Anthony Edwards doesn't get to decide that."

  The conversation explores the criteria for becoming the face of the NBA, debating whether championships are a prerequisite and discussing emerging players like Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

g. Oscars Recap

• Notable Moments and Performances
  The hosts briefly recap the Oscars, highlighting moments like Adrian Brody throwing gum at his wife ([113:13]) and discussing the overall reaction to the event.

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3. Interviews

a. Interview with Nick Sirianni (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach)

Main Points Discussed:

• Immediate Return Post-Super Bowl
  Dan Katz [49:02]: Inquires about Sirianni's quick return to work after winning the Super Bowl.

  Nick Sirianni [49:18]: "We had some coaching turnover... It's right back to work to try to put you in position to be able to do it again."

• Handling Emotions and Leadership
  Dan Katz [53:19]: Asks about managing emotions during pivotal moments like the national anthem.

  Nick Sirianni [53:26]: Attributes emotional coaching style to his Italian heritage and emphasizes the importance of selflessness and team sacrifice.

• Team Building and Player Appreciation
  Nick Sirianni [54:47]: Praises GM Howie Roseman's ability to build a championship team and highlights players like Saquon Barkley as exceptional individuals.

• Future Outlook and Coaching Philosophy
  Discussions revolve around maintaining team continuity, relying on strong coaching staff, and fostering a resilient team culture.

Notable Quotes:

• "Nobody in the NFL does their job as good as Dom does his." [54:03]
• "Coaching is not always seen. It's the burdens of leadership." [74:47]
• "You're excited for the play." [61:07]

b. Interview with Diana Rossini (Sports Journalist, The Athletic)

Main Points Discussed:

• Transition from ESPN to The Athletic
  Dan Katz [89:05]: Explores her decision to leave ESPN for a more challenging role at The Athletic.

  Diana Rossini [89:14]: "It's so much harder than what I was doing on TV. It's not even close."

• Reporting on New York Jets and MVP Voting Controversy
  Discussions about her reporting on the Jets' internal dynamics, Aaron Rodgers' potential moves, and the backlash she faced for voting Lamar Jackson as MVP over Josh Allen despite Josh's impressive season.

• Super Bowl in New Orleans Experience
  Diana shares her experience covering the Super Bowl in New Orleans, praising the celebration and player performances, especially Saquon Barkley's exuberant reaction.

• NFL Reporting Challenges
  Highlights the difficulties of sports journalism, including dealing with fan backlash and maintaining objectivity.

Notable Quotes:

• "I need to parent them in those scenarios. And what a great opportunity I have..." [54:47]
• "I've never seen [Saquon Barkley] like that ever. Like, even in some." [88:25]
• "I represent the stuff that bothers you, and I don't want to..." [95:25]

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4. Conclusion

The episode of "Pardon My Take" offers a comprehensive look into current sports narratives, blending lighthearted banter with serious discussions. The interviews with Nick Sirianni and Diana Rossini provide valuable insights into leadership in the NFL and the challenges of sports journalism, respectively. Listeners are left with a nuanced understanding of team dynamics, player movements, and the ever-evolving landscape of both professional and college sports.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Katz [03:03]: "Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because the Rams were..."

• PFT Commenter [05:56]: "He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach. This one might be even bigger."

• Nick Sirianni [53:26]: "That's emotion, right? That's emotion, right? And that's what makes me unique."

• Diana Rossini [95:25]: "I represent the stuff that bothers you, and I don't want to..."

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions and interviews that constitute the core of the episode.

Transcript

[Dan Katz]

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[Diana Rossini]

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[Dan Katz]

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[Diana Rossini]

And don't forget the fries and a drink.

[Nick Sirianni]

Sound good.

[Diana Rossini]

I participate in restaurants for a limited time.

[Dan Katz]

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[PFT Commenter]

Ski trip didn't work out for Tom Brady.

[Dan Katz]

Ski trip did not work out. Well, it did work out for the rest of us. Cause we got a reporter fight out of it. But yes, Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because the Rams were, you could make the argument like they, they played the Eagles the toughest in the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

So they almost won that game in the right quarter.

[Dan Katz]

And they, and they had a really bad start to the season. But then they played great down the stretch. It feels like they still have a window with Matthew Stafford. I think it's a two year deal.

[PFT Commenter]

I was listening Stafford's podcast.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And by listen to, I mean just like anticipating what she would say. My guess is she probably didn't want to leave la.

[Dan Katz]

I would say so. And you're on it. Like why would you if you're Matthew Stafford? It never made sense. Want to go to the Giants? No offense to the Giants, but the Giants aren't going to win a Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Dan Katz]

The Rams could conceivably in the next two years compete for a Super Bowl. It would be crazy to leave that situation. So yeah, he's, he's set. And now it's a question of where Aaron Rodgers will go. Giants. And he's Raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

I've heard that he's trying to bring devonte with him again.

[Dan Katz]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So he has a wish list. And I feel like if I were Aaron, I would just want to stay in New York and just go to the other locker room.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Run it back. Get that solar, those solar panels on your house in New Jersey finally, you know, get them fully installed.

[PFT Commenter]

Stretch your legs, lay down roots there.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And then it feels like the Raiders might be in the Sam Darnold market from what everyone is saying.

[PFT Commenter]

So I, I just love that there is a Sam Darnold market. Yeah, we need, we need a Sam Darnold market.

[Dan Katz]

And the Steelers are just gonna run it back. Run it back with Rusty. Yeah. And Kirk Cousins is going to be a backup. But this was the big. Because if Stafford had gone somewhere else, it would obviously had a, a chain reaction down the line.

[PFT Commenter]

Now a lot of people are saying, what are the Cowboys up to? Win horse. Oh, what are the Cowboys up to? Because Jerry Jones, he likes to talk. Jerry loves him. Some media. He did not talk at the combine this year.

[Dan Katz]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

He did not address reporters. And apparently everybody else from the Cowboys is being very quiet. So what's. What's going on in Dallas right now?

[Dan Katz]

Did you see that? Dax?

[PFT Commenter]

Ben Denucci back.

[Dan Katz]

Dax cap hit. I believe they'll probably restructure it and kick the can down the road. But I. I think I saw Florio report that Dax cap hit this year is $90 million. Dak Prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly $90 million. A restructuring could drop it as low as $51 million. They'll keep kicking the can until they inevitably take a massive cap hit after he's no longer on the team. $90 million. I don't understand the cap. That feels like a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

That could. He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach. This one might be even bigger.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

$100 million is a lot of money to pay anyway. Again, if you're a Cowboys fan, you shouldn't really care. Whenever you see somebody, be like, oh, you overpaid for this guy. Who cares? It's not your money. But if it runs into this situation where you're not able to pay anybody else.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I would say if the team suffers for it, you should care.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

And this feels like $90 million again. They'll probably restructure it. We need. You know what? Who's the. Who's a capologist that we can get on. We need to get a capologist on the show. Just explain it all to us.

[PFT Commenter]

So there's a guy. What's his name? Jason. Over the cap. He runs over the cap.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I follow that guy online. He's good.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, breaking moves. Breaking moves.

[Max]

O.J. simpson.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

Not in the memorial.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they didn't include him in the Oscars. Memorial.

[Dan Katz]

Chef is punching air.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he's the only one who respects O.J.

[Dan Katz]

Damn. We also had an awl.

[PFT Commenter]

That's okay. I almost could see the Oscars honoring OJ More than I could see Adam Schefter honoring him. Yeah, because he was.

[Dan Katz]

Say he was in movies.

[PFT Commenter]

Say what you want about him off the field, but on the silver screen. He was pretty good in the Naked Gun.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Way better person than he was. Actor.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. No, he was a good actor.

[Dan Katz]

I mean, he wasn't a good actor. He was an actor.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see him try to put the glove on?

[Dan Katz]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't fit.

[Dan Katz]

It's too small. True. That's true. Yeah. Just a Couple jokes about a double murder.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, when he said not guilty.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Somebody believed him.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So. Yeah. Shefty. By the way, thanks to Nawl, who found it? He did. He did put Aaron Hernandez in the in memoriam Shefty tweet, which now has become. It's the most important tweet I'm looking forward to this year.

[PFT Commenter]

If. If anybody on this show passed away, God forbid, they got to make Shefty sweet. Right.

[Dan Katz]

I think you and I would. I think Hank would.

[Max]

I'm on the Christmas list, Stephen.

[Dan Katz]

Che would. I don't know if Max and Memes would maybe have to put a little. We'd have to maybe text them and let them know.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think Shefty would do.

[Dan Katz]

Hey, Max died ingrown. Ingrown toenail.

[PFT Commenter]

It is kind of crazy that every time somebody dies, the first thing Adam Schefter does is he runs to the dock on his phone.

[Dan Katz]

Ye.

[PFT Commenter]

And then writes their name in. Yeah. Death doc Hit list.

[Dan Katz]

All right, so Stafford staying with the Rams. Pft. You got Debo.

[PFT Commenter]

Samuel got Debo.

[Dan Katz]

Big time got Debo. You got a little. You got a little upset in the group chat this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Little miscommunication, a little miscue in the. In the group chat and hand up. I think I was like seven beers deep at the bar on. On Saturday. I was watching some college basketball, watching some golf, and, yeah, I had a couple cocktails, and so the Debo news broke. I was pumped about the Debo news.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I love watching Debo play football. I think he won our first ever award on part of my take. For a guy who I like watching play football the most. Yeah, Debo's very fun to watch when he's in good shape. And a lot of people are like, oh, you got fat, Debo. You got. He's so fat. You're gonna hate that fatty. First of all, number one, let's not fat Shame. People agree this is not a James Harden situation. He looked a little slower last year. Yes, I agree. I may have even said at one point he was fat. Please don't look up the tapes. But if anybody has perfect information on Debo Samuel, it's Adam Peters, who I believe drafted Debo and worked around Debo for a long time in San Fran. He is now the GM of the Commanders. When I met, I sat with him at the combine. I told him, number one, if you need me to commit any felonies for the team, I'll do it. I'll be the fall guy. I'M your guy for that. Number two. I trust you. If you like Debo, I trust your evaluation.

[Dan Katz]

So he's like, I got it.

[PFT Commenter]

And he's like, okay, I have the support of the fan base. No, but I think he does know more than anybody what Debo is like right now. I. He's 29 years old. It's not like he's super old.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, he. He's on. He's definitely on the wrong side of his career. But it doesn't matter because you're signing him. It's not like you're signing him for the next five years.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Dan Katz]

You're signing him for this year. You just need him to be Debo for a year. Yeah, the contract's big, but who cares if he's good for a year? It doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Fifth round pick.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it would be one thing if you. If you sign him and you're like, all right, new long term contract for Debo. That's. Yeah, he probably has lost the step and he's not the same as he was, but it doesn't matter. You just need like 85% of Debo for a year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm pumped to watch Debo.

[Max]

So what was the anger about?

[Dan Katz]

So the anger. So here, I'll read it to you guys. So memes. So PFT said, 5th round pick fleeced. Meme said, Cowboys traded 4th round for Mingo. PFD said, okay, question mark. You traded a third to us for Dotson. Meme said, I'm not Max. I'm saying that's good. PNT said, I'm sorry. I saw the. The m. My bad. So memes Max. And then Max chimed in, said, we actually won a Super bowl though, so congrats on the off season win. We'll take the actual ring. Pit said, it's a. What have you done for me lately? League keep living in the past, Max. And Max said, well, lately I won a Super Bowl. You, on the other hand, lost in the conference championship. BFT said last month. Max said by a lot. Also, you want to take a look at those Miles Garrett's next team's odds thing. Things are changing. And psa keep focusing on that ring you already won. Loser. So I guess Miles Garrett.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, let's be honest. Max has been milking this fucking super bowl for everything it's worth.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, he took a vacation. Not on vacation week.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of a loser move to celebrate winning a Super Bowl.

[Dan Katz]

On to the next. We were about to talk to Nick Sirianni. I think my first Question was like, hey, dude, isn't it bullshit. You have to be at the combine? He's like, I've been working basically two days or a day after the parade. He's got a next man up mentality.

[PFT Commenter]

If I won a Super Bowl, I wouldn't even celebrate it.

[Dan Katz]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

My celebration would end the second that the super bowl concluded.

[Nick Sirianni]

Super.

[Dan Katz]

No Super Bowl Sunday. You get your Super Bowl Sunday. Midnight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, midnight.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, midnight. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

And whatever time. So, yeah, no parade. Midnight. I don't think I'd participate.

[Hank]

I didn't go to parade.

[PFT Commenter]

I wouldn't.

[Dan Katz]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But you. You're talking about being a winner this whole time, Max.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Miles Garrett, a month ago.

[Dan Katz]

Max, are you going to get Miles Garrett?

[Hank]

I don't know. Things are changing. Things are changing. The commanders were the heavy favorites other than the. Other than the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the Browns were the heavy favorites.

[Hank]

Correct. But for. If you were to bet on any team other than Cleveland, it was Washington, and now it's Eagles and Washington have the same. Same odds.

[Dan Katz]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so. But no one's a heavy favorite.

[Hank]

No.

[Dan Katz]

Did Howie do it again or did Howie do it how. He could do it again. I could do it again.

[PFT Commenter]

I think what's happening here is the commanders and the Eagles both want Miles Garrett just as much to have him, as much to keep him away from the other team in the division that wants him.

[Dan Katz]

Do you think the Eagles are thinking about the commanders, Max? Sure. Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all I ever wanted.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I'll get.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'll give you that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Have fun with fat Debo.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Okay, Max, come on. You're the.

[Dan Katz]

Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

You're the heaviest favorite on this podcast.

[Hank]

I'm not a favorite. I'm just heavy obese. Obese. That was from the Yak chat.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, the case. Race. Obese.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. I do love watching Debo when he has the ball in his hands. He's not. I don't know if you can call Debo like a number two receiver. I feel like he's, like, he's a Swiss army slot.

[Dan Katz]

He's just. Maximum violence.

[PFT Commenter]

Maximum violence. That's what. That's what I want.

[Dan Katz]

He seeks violence.

[PFT Commenter]

And you know what? He's a good blocker, too. That's very important.

[Hank]

Bubble screen merchant.

[Dan Katz]

Bubble screen merchant is some. Some people would say maximum violence or bubble screen merchant.

[Hank]

Shane told me he had the separation in the entire NFL last year. I don't know if that's true, but Shane said it.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not a Separation guy.

[Dan Katz]

Married to the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's a. He's a yak guy.

[Hank]

Bubble screen.

[Dan Katz]

There could. There also is a theory that he could be unlocked now that he is out of Kyle Shanahan's offense because Kyle Shanahan did try to force the Rock to Debo a lot last year. There's a lot of times where it's like they're just trying to get Debo going and it doesn't seem like the correct strategy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What's the stat with Deebo and the win loss in terms of like when he plays and when he doesn't play? They're 52 and 29 when Debo Samuel does play. I'm trying to figure out what they are without debut. 8 and 11.

[Dan Katz]

How many times was Trent Williams included.

[PFT Commenter]

In that this is Debo Samuel stuff?

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Because there were a couple times when Trent Williams and Debo were out.

[PFT Commenter]

This is lose purely a Debo Sam.

[Dan Katz]

Just a Debo Samuels.

[PFT Commenter]

52 and 29. When Debo Samuel. Pretty good, by the way. Senior. He's had sex.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Remember that 52 and 29 when he plays and when he does not play, they are 8 and 11. That's a pretty big difference.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. All right. So what else? Oh, Trey Smith got tagged. Franchise tags. So the Chiefs are keeping him. And then Kelsey officially, officially is coming back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Dan Katz]

As for the combine, I had some winners and losers and this is just based off of just tweets of videos I saw.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Dan Katz]

Loser Will Howard. Did you see the cut up of him throwing passes? That was tough. Very mean. Whatever. Whoever did that to him. Will Howard also has nine inch hands.

[PFT Commenter]

That's tough.

[Dan Katz]

So does Cam Ward. Winner Tyler show because he has nine and three fourths in chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Massive.

[Dan Katz]

Massive. Also winner Jalen Milro. Jalen Milroe at the Senior bowl, he measured his hands and I think they were eight and three fourths and he grew a half an inch on his hands to the combine. So now he's one nine and a quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Dan Katz]

That's huge. Loser Isaiah Bond, because he said he was going to maybe run a 4:1 and then he ran a 4:4 and he wasn't even the fastest. Texas receiver Matthew golden ran a 4 3. I don't know who's who in Isaiah Bond's camp is telling him what to do because you just. That's just simple like where you're putting the expectations. You got to go in and say, I don't know, I might run a 47 and then run a 44 but damn, I'm way faster than I thought I was. Because 44 is not slow, but it's not 4 1.

[PFT Commenter]

And it wasn't.

[Dan Katz]

It wasn't even close to the fastest wide receiver.

[PFT Commenter]

And he was. He was calling out his, like, setting his shot, being like, I'm going to be the fastest to ever do it. And his former teammate, Xavier Worthy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is way faster than. He posted something like, respect those who came before you. Young 1Y.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Also loser Will Campbell and winner Will C. I have him as. As a loser because his arm length is 32 and 5. 8 inches.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. There's a lot of arm length talk.

[PFT Commenter]

The general consensus for a tackle is 33 inches, so he's 3.8of an inch away from having tackle length, arms. And so some teams are like, well, got to move him to guard. I think the Patriots would be very happy to get him and put him at tackle.

[Dan Katz]

I think he's. I had him as a winner because he. He hurt himself early on in one of the drills and then powered through it and actually had a few of the drills. He dominated. Absolutely dominated. And he. He's gonna be. He's gonna be really, really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I think he said. I think there was a quote. He's like, go look at my tape of the couple of sacks I ever gave up. None of them had anything to do with arm length.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We're talking about 3.8of an inch here.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys lie about that all the time.

[Dan Katz]

And then I also had Tyler Warren has small hands in wing size, which I still would bet on him being a very good player, but. Loser.

[PFT Commenter]

How small his hands?

[Dan Katz]

I think it was like eight and three fourths. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty small.

[Dan Katz]

Pretty small. And his wing size. Shockingly small.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a winner again.

[Dan Katz]

I think I would. I would bet on Tyler Warren being a good pro.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. My winner, Mason Graham.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because smooth. He said, I'm gonna go to the combine, but I'm only going to do bench press.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which rocks.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like all this other. Just put me on the weights.

[Dan Katz]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch me move.

[Dan Katz]

Beast.

[PFT Commenter]

Loser Shador Sanders. His hat was three quarters of the way backwards when he addressed the media, so Coward's watching that like a hog. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Also winner Mason Taylor because he ran the line drill, where you catch it, catch it, run, run straight across the field. And it was actually, like, beautiful to watch because his. His steps never deviated from the line. It was a perfect, perfect drill. So winner.

[PFT Commenter]

That's one of those drills when you see somebody who's smooth and who's an actual athlete run. It's. It looks like the easiest thing ever. And then when you watch one of.

[Dan Katz]

Us try to do well, I'd fall on my face. Yeah, we already know that. Okay. Anything else from the NFL? I don't think so. I think that was pretty much it from the weekend. We have free agency starting soon. I think the cap or. Sorry, the franchise tag deadline is Tuesday. Yeah. So we're going to find out what the Bengals are going to actually do.

[PFT Commenter]

And then legal tampering starts.

[Dan Katz]

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[PFT Commenter]

Let's do it. This is March.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, this is March. Well, my first national sports podcast note was ovi. OVI scored another goal. So shout out ovi.

[PFT Commenter]

He did. And yeah, it was a nice goal. It wasn't. It wasn't your prototypical OV setting up in the office. Wasn't an empty netter. Nice little goal from the middle of the ice. Little wrister Top cheddar.

[Dan Katz]

11.

[PFT Commenter]

11 away. Is that what it is?

[Dan Katz]

I believe so.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's 11. It was 11. 11 or 12. And then. Yeah, it goes over. Daps up his son. I've got a new favorite Caps fan, though.

[Dan Katz]

Who?

[PFT Commenter]

Tuna. Oh, have you seen Tuna?

[Dan Katz]

I have not seen.

[PFT Commenter]

Bring Tuna's picture up on here. They showed this guy in the first period. Tuna rocks.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a kid and he's wearing, like, pit viper shades.

[Dan Katz]

Max is 0 for 1 on searches.

[PFT Commenter]

And a hat that just says, I just got it.

[Hank]

The OVI gold.

[Dan Katz]

Now we're just looking at a huge tuna.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, look up hashtag. Hashtag Tuna.

[Dan Katz]

This will definitely work.

[PFT Commenter]

It should.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, there it is. Tuna.

[PFT Commenter]

Tuna.

[Dan Katz]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't Tuna rock?

[Dan Katz]

Just a kid named Tuna.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Big Tuna.

[Dan Katz]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's our new unofficial mascot right now.

[Dan Katz]

Tuna. Okay. Yeah. This is March, though. It is March.

[PFT Commenter]

Big time.

[Dan Katz]

Had a great college basketball weekend, Hank. At what point. Let's just get this out of the way. At what point are you Gonna start fading. I have not lost in March yet. Just so everyone knows. I'm eight. No. In Betsy, I. I assumed Hank faded me when I got to like five or six. Zero. When are you. When are you gonna do it? Is it gonna be Monday? Is it gonna be tonight?

[Max]

It might be.

[Dan Katz]

It's gonna be tonight.

[Max]

It might be.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. All right. I know you're so in my head about it that I know that when you do actually fade me, that will be when I lose.

[Max]

I feel bad for this one, though. I. I wasn't. I. I don't. I think it might be too early.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Max]

I might just stay away.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. I think he knows. Pretty crazy. I haven't lost in March.

[PFT Commenter]

I know Hank's troll brain. He's gonna kick it in right during the conference championship tournaments.

[Max]

That's usually. Yeah, it's usually like, I don't wanna. I don't want to be in this spot for the entire month.

[Dan Katz]

I did feel very stupid explaining my wife that I was like, I might not lose a bet in March. And she looked at me like, that's the dumbest thing you've ever said. It's like I've said much dumber. But as of right now, yeah, I have not lost in March. So what if I don't lose in March?

[Max]

Probably another global pandemic.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Probably another global pandemic. All right, so college basketball Saturday was awesome. Tennessee.

[PFT Commenter]

That was such a good game.

[Dan Katz]

Buzzer beater. NATO's all time choke job. Just not two timeouts. Not calling a timeout when you're. When your team is getting a five second call. Taking his bigs out of the lineup on the free throw, just. Just choking it.

[PFT Commenter]

He lost that game more than Tennessee wanted.

[Dan Katz]

He. He said it after. He's like, I was not good in the last 30 seconds that game. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question for you about Rick Barnes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he on Ozempic?

[Dan Katz]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

He's getting skinnier.

[Dan Katz]

I think that's just also what old people do.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just. He's just wasting away right now.

[Dan Katz]

Old people just get skinny and they just waste away. So that could be. Could be bad. We also had no. He looks. He looks like normal Rick Barnes. There was a couple. He looks old.

[PFT Commenter]

There are a couple shots of him on. On the sideline when he was yelling at the refs and he looked like a ghost.

[Dan Katz]

He looks old. We also had Rick Patino, white suit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Finally came back. They actually struggled a little bit, but they have clinched. They won the Big East Congrats to coach Patino. The white suit looked awesome. They did a white out at the Garden. Auburn is just really fucking good. That's. That was my big. They. They went into Kentucky and they whooped the shit out of Kentucky. A game that Cal would have lost.

[PFT Commenter]

They feel. Yeah, they. They feel inevitable.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Well, it's Auburn and Duke. I keep trying to figure out. I keep trying to figure out who else could win and it's going to be Auburn and Duke.

[Hank]

Duke.

[PFT Commenter]

I like Auburn. Duke. I'm gonna put some money on St. John's and then Houston.

[Dan Katz]

Houston. Houston.

[Max]

And Bama.

[Dan Katz]

Houston. Bam. Oh, you're gonna be a Bama guy.

[Max]

I'm in.

[Dan Katz]

Also Kansas is very sad. Kansas lost the Texas Tech, who is very good team. But then they had a controversy after a Kansas player posted. It was some up things the fans were sending them. And then Bill Self had to release like a statement basically saying we're trying our best. It just doesn't feel good for Kansas right now. Which. Which also speaks to how good Kansas is historically because they are still a tournament team. They're probably a five seed, maybe a six and they have 11 losses. But it's still. It's time in. In. In Lawrence where they're releasing statements.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

And saying like this is really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

So right now they're saying the last four in Oklahoma, Indiana, Ohio State, Texas.

[Dan Katz]

I don't. If they. I'll say this pre Selection Sunday. I don't. We don't know how the conference tournaments are going to go. Texas does not to be. Deserved to be in. They're bad if like Drake gets kept out instead of Texas. If Drake doesn't win their conference, I'll be very upset. The bubble is like some of these teams are just bad teams that because some of the smaller teams haven't had great seasons. I'll be very upset. So I'm gonna say right now Drake deserves to be in no matter what. Absolutely deserves to be in no matter what. Yeah. Texas got smoked by Georgia and like that was the game they needed. All right, so yeah, they have. Drake is a 12 seed right now. What is. What do they have Wisconsin at 2 or 3? 3. Yeah, the Michigan State game was tough. Drake, Oregon, Michigan State's really good. I also. Let's see. Oh, shout out Omaha. The team. I don't know if you guys have seen, but they've been doing these wrestling themes all throughout the season and it's very cool. Like just small time basketball getting some energy. They did a.

[Hank]

What this was. This hasn't Leonardi. Oh, this was last updated February 28th.

[Dan Katz]

That's crazy.

[Hank]

He. He doesn't like his job. He's probably doesn't like to do his job.

[Dan Katz]

He only has one job. Can you find the Omaha video, though? They had. They won the conference, and it was very funny because they had the chancellor pop out of a garbage can with the belt. Yeah, and it was just a very funny visual because it's like a smaller Asian woman is the chancellor, and she just pops out of a garbage can for them. And they. They're. They're what I love about college basketball. Like these. These teams in the smaller conferences going on these awesome runs. They still obviously got a win to get in, but it's very fun. No, that's not it.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so Lenardi had. He did put out. Search Chancellor updated bracketology for Sunday, March 2nd.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Pre game. This is before the games today.

[Dan Katz]

Again, why? Like, there were some consequential games. Michigan losing to Illinois. Look at this. Yeah, I love this.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Dan Katz]

Omaha chancellor popping out.

[PFT Commenter]

So. Yeah, so he did update it. It didn't get updated on the website, but he posted it on Twitter and he says the last four in Georgia, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, now last foreign, first four out, Boise State, Xavier, unc. In Texas. Texas is now out, per Joe Lenardi.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, good. And then, no offense to Texas. I've just. I've watched Texas play. The SEC is so deep that, you know, what, does Texas have five conference wins or something? So that's the problem, is that we're getting to 12, 13, 14 teams in the SEC. It's like, all right, we got to stop some point Drake deserves. And again, Drake could just be in because they could win their tournament. But that will piss me off if we have some of these teams that were really bad, but they were in a good conference. I don't need that.

[PFT Commenter]

So they've also. People are upset that Oklahoma is one of the last four end. Why would you put Oklahoma over Texas?

[Dan Katz]

I wouldn't. I kick them both out. Xavier should be in.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Dan Katz]

Xavier's been playing hot. We will all work out. It will all work out. Yeah. Look, they have Xavier in as a first four.

[PFT Commenter]

Nova, next four out.

[Dan Katz]

I need Max to get all the way back in on Nova. I really need it.

[Hank]

They got the talent.

[Dan Katz]

By the way, congratulations PFT on winning the Sun Belt.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, yeah, Regular season. Yeah, pretty good. The second half of the season was a lot better than the first.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Looks like Stradlin's got the boys rolling, but now we have the Sun Belt tournament, which is insane.

[Dan Katz]

Insane.

[PFT Commenter]

The format of the tournament is the. The better you are in the regular season. That determines how many buys you get. So the one seed and the two seed get an automatic buy all the way to the semifinals. So if you're the last seated team, you have to win like seven games in a row.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Against a bunch of teams that are fresh.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. It's going to be an awesome tournament. Also, congrats to South Alabama, Arkansas State and Troy for winning the Sun Belt. It was funny watching all four teams. 30% of the league. One.

[PFT Commenter]

See, I don't. I don't celebrate co championships.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For my conference. Unlike you.

[Dan Katz]

Well, I mean, four. Four is a very funny visual.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is.

[Dan Katz]

It's a very funny vision.

[PFT Commenter]

I just didn't take my shirt off and paint my chest.

[Dan Katz]

You also took your shirt off when. When we went to the Wisconsin game.

[PFT Commenter]

I got caught up.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. What are you talking about?

[PFT Commenter]

I got caught up in Bucky Fever.

[Dan Katz]

You were right next to me doing the same thing.

[PFT Commenter]

I know.

[Dan Katz]

I just thought it was funny. 30 is very funny. It was watching it. All of them post it. It's like. That's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

So, yeah. The bracket is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

The bracket for the Sunbelt tournament is going to be. It's going to rock. And then Hank, I guess we said it on the stream. Myself and Hank are teamed up again for the bracket Busters. Max is also involved. It'll be a real shame if we picked against Wisconsin.

[Dan Katz]

Dude. I'm pretty confident in their first round this year. They're not like last year where AJ stored or we just take the Dukes.

[Max]

I was never picking against Wisconsin.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, right, right.

[Max]

Rolling with jmu.

[Dan Katz]

That's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

But.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So zero happiness in my life.

[PFT Commenter]

There's the bracket right there. The bracket is just insane. I love this format.

[Dan Katz]

It is insane. And it's going to be great because we already started. I think there was a conference tournament game tonight. We've already started conference tournament week, so. But I need Max back in. We need to get Max back in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

All the way back in. The last thing I had for the national sports podcast. Do we. Can anyone make sense of the. Of the NBA debate? LeBron faces this league. Future face of this league. Can anyone make sense of what's going on other than I. I don't understand. Here's what I don't understand. Anthony Edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league. Anthony Edwards doesn't get to decide that.

[PFT Commenter]

No. And we get to decide.

[Dan Katz]

Well, not only that, but when has there ever been a face of a league that didn't win? Right. You have to win matters. You have to win a championship to be considered a face of this league. Agree. It's not. And obviously, if you win, that doesn't automatically mean you're the face of the league. Like, Jokic could be the face of the league, but he doesn't. He doesn't like the media. You could make the argument, you know, Tim Duncan won a lot. He was never the face of the league. I don't understand how Anthony Edwards saying, I don't want to be the face of the league. Like, dude, no one said you were. You haven't won anything yet. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, I mean, we don't really have a face of the league right now.

[Dan Katz]

Well, it's the old guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Is LeBron the face of the league?

[Dan Katz]

LeBron and his stuff. And I also.

[Max]

I think if the Celtics win this year, then. Then Tatum's.

[PFT Commenter]

Jalen Brown out of here, man.

[Hank]

Max, come on now.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, nice. Max, I see what you did there. Hit you with the.

[Dan Katz]

Out here playing the video right now. Do you want to talk about that at all, Hank?

[Max]

Yeah, I don't know what happened.

[Dan Katz]

For the listeners that don't know, the.

[Max]

Celtics lost on Friday night. They. Poor Zingus wasn't playing, so they weren't fully healthy.

[Dan Katz]

Wait, it says right here they were up 25 to three.

[Max]

Yeah, I mean, everyone knows the NBA. Like, a lead doesn't matter that much until probably four minutes left in the third quarter.

[Hank]

Jason Tatum said, fuck out of here, man. After being up 25.

[PFT Commenter]

He did say, get the fuck out of here.

[Max]

Yeah, that's what you do. Like, you want your face of the league to be cocky. You want them to say, get the fuck out of here. But then you lost a regular season game. Max, it's the regular season. Wake me up. In the conference championship, a fully healthy Celtics team is not losing to the Cavs. It was an absolute ref show. But it was. It was. I mean, it's good.

[Dan Katz]

It's.

[Max]

It's a. Missoula loves those games. He loves having things that he can use to motivate the team. And losing to a team that's going to have a better record than them going into the playoffs, like that. That's good. That's a good. That was a good statement loss.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's like what. What Patino was saying. Right? Like, you. You want to have these things to motivate your guys.

[Max]

Yes. And then they came out and beat.

[Dan Katz]

The Nuggets, so no issue.

[PFT Commenter]

But, Hank, you could also make the argument that the. The Cavs are the one seed right now. Correct.

[Max]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

So wouldn't the Celtics already be taking them seriously because they're the one seeing this?

[Max]

No, they're taking them seriously, but now they're really going to take them seriously.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Serious. Lear. Yeah, got it.

[Dan Katz]

Also, Joan beads out for the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's the knee of the NBA.

[Dan Katz]

I really need the Bulls not to make the playing game.

[Hank]

I.

[Dan Katz]

It's a race right now.

[Hank]

I'm. I'm act. I was watching the Sixers warriors game last night, just actively rooting for the warriors, and it's. It' weird place to be in, but you got to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Have they said if they're going to break his hip or if they're going to do the normal knee surgery?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. How are they going to do this?

[Hank]

He may never play again.

[PFT Commenter]

He might not walk again.

[Dan Katz]

But he did get that mvp.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

He's done so much for the city.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Peyton Pritchard might be the face of the NBA.

[Dan Katz]

He might be six.

[Max]

About to be six one.

[Dan Katz]

What do you guys. But it's become a big story because LeBron. I don't understand. And then LeBron said the media. You wouldn't want to be the face of Lee because the media is so mean. I don't. I don't think the media is that mean to NBA players. I think Twitter is like. Like the faceless Twitter trolls are. But the media. Yeah. Shaq and Chuck, they. They do a show that busts on people. But what. I actually think that, like, I think the NFL has way more of a media microscope on their players.

[PFT Commenter]

I would agree. It's just that people. I think players in the NBA are addicted to reading all the hate online.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just like you should never log on if you're LeBron James. You have nothing to gain by logging on.

[Dan Katz]

It's just. It's very weird to me because LeBron and. And it like talking about respecting the game and stuff. And listen, I think JJ Reddick's doing a great job. He's a friend of the program. J.J. redick also did say that the. You know, in the 50s and 60s, they were plumbers. So, I mean, he was part of that media at one point, but he also respects. I know he did a show that he was respecting the game a lot and how skilled these guys are. LeBron gets endless praise. I don't understand why he is pretending like he's Getting torn down all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

He does get on.

[Dan Katz]

He gets on, but it's not like it's. Again, it's by like idiots, like, like me and like idiots online that we don't mean anything. So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think trolls are the face of the NBA right now.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. He's basically saying the trolls run the show.

[PFT Commenter]

They run the league.

[Dan Katz]

It's barstool After Dark. Yeah. The chat runs the stream.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I feel like NBA players more so than any other athlete, they're just very, very un.

[Dan Katz]

It's crazy to me. I don't get it. I just. The face of this league. Again, you don't get to decide who's the face of this league. It's going to be whoever is a young, dynamic player who wins a title. Jason Tatum is. You think he's got the aura?

[Max]

Yeah. If you win back to back gets a final MVP in there. It's tough to argue. He's 27.

[Dan Katz]

It's also just such a funny thing to say. Like face. Who's the face of this league?

[PFT Commenter]

He might be the shoulders of this league.

[Dan Katz]

He does have six.

[Hank]

Shouldn't you have to win an envy. A Finals mvp?

[Max]

Yeah. So like one minute ago I just said that he said if he wins.

[PFT Commenter]

If he throws in an NBA. NBA Finals mvp.

[Hank]

What if Jalen Brown wins it and then it's the face of the league.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He wasn't even on Team usa.

[Dan Katz]

Can you play? The clip just keeps going whenever he's. When this, this discussion about face of this league has been happening pretty much non stop for five days now. And all I can think about is, is Scotty, Scotty Barnes, future face this league.

[PFT Commenter]

Giannis had like current face of this league 13 month span when he was the face.

[Hank]

Yeah, he was Scotty Barnes, future face of this league. People don't talk about this video as much as we talk about this video.

[Dan Katz]

No one talks.

[Hank]

I know, but the video is so good.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, let's find it.

[Dan Katz]

It's, it's the Raptors head coach, Coach Darko talking about Scotty Barnes, future face of this league. But yeah, LeBron, I don't, I don't get it. And he just. LeBron's also done active campaigns, like goat campaigns. He's, you know, he's actively trying to get people to be like, hey, you're the goat.

[PFT Commenter]

Status. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

So to, to then turn it around and say the media is the, is the problem.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why it's weird to start his own league.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. He's just listening to the trolls Too much. Scotty Barnes is gonna be all star. He's gonna be the face of this league. And what. What's happening over here during. He didn't say future business. Oh, we made that part up.

[Max]

Oh, no.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, Max.

[Max]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

He says face of this league.

[Dan Katz]

Future face of this league.

[Hank]

He's going to be the face of this league. It's total crap.

[Dan Katz]

Face of this league. Yeah. I don't. NBA players are upset. And then. Yeah. The LeBron went on S with SVP.

[PFT Commenter]

And prayers up for SVP. That. That Maryland loss was tough on him.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Last week. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Right in his face.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's do who's back. Then we have Nick Sirianni. Is anything happening in the Oscars that we care about at all?

[Max]

No.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry O'Connell was there.

[Dan Katz]

That was our Oscars recap. Good oscars recap. Jerry O'Connell looked hot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. No one got slapped.

[Max]

How many of these movies have you seen? Like, I haven't seen most of them, so I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

You saw Dune too? Two summers ago.

[Max]

I saw Dune 2. Came out in March 2024. For those wonder.

[Dan Katz]

I saw a complete unknown. I saw Concave, and I saw Moana too.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think I saw any of them.

[Dan Katz]

So I think there's a new Paw Patrol movie. Yeah, I. I liked Conclave. I liked a complete Unknown and Brutalist 1.

[Max]

Best original score should have been Dune 2 wasn't nominated somehow.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Max]

Best movie score of all time. That makes no sense.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, I'm still here.

[PFT Commenter]

What's that?

[Max]

That's international feature.

[Dan Katz]

What's that? What is that?

[Max]

It's a movie about what?

[PFT Commenter]

Who's still here?

[Max]

Not Stafford.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, that's our Oscars recap. All right, let's do who's back of the week. It's brought to you by our friends at Truly. Truly Unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. Drinks light, parties hard. With 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Find Truly Unruly at a store near you. Visit Truly Hard Seltzer.com Strawberry Smash. My absolute favorite. Truly Hard Seltzer.com it's getting warm out. It's going to be golf season soon, so go right now. Get your Truly Unrulys. Let's get unruly this summer. 8% ABV. It hits hard, but still tastes amazing, Hank. Who's back of the week?

[Max]

My who's back of the week is John Cena.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I had it as well.

[Max]

So, wwe.

[PFT Commenter]

So he turned heel Saturday night.

[Max]

He turned heel. The golden boy. Pretty boy of WWE for his whole career.

[Dan Katz]

Pretty up to do the week that Gene Hackman died.

[Max]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good point. Like, because he was a human being.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And his wife and he just decided that, like, oh, this is the week I'm going to do it. Gene Hackman just died.

[Max]

It's true. It was. It was a great. I mean, I'll get. I'm not watching WWE every week, but a heel turn like this and just watching the wrestling community freak out about it is. Can't beat it.

[PFT Commenter]

Because then he retire.

[Dan Katz]

No, he's doing a retirement tour.

[PFT Commenter]

And he turned heel on his retirement tour.

[Dan Katz]

Correct. So he said that he would never, ever turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel. And then in his retirement tour, going up to WrestleMania, he has gone heel pretty crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

How. How did he go heel? He beat up Cody Rhodes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, he.

[Max]

He's hugging Cody Rhodes and then he noticed.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Rock said, hey, do it. Rock's also heel right now. It's awesome. I mean, I. I don't watch wrestling anymore, but I. I think about moments when I was a kid watching wrestling. Like, when a good guy does turn heel, it is electric.

[PFT Commenter]

So is he going to change out the jorts for, like, leather pants?

[Dan Katz]

You know, go Hollywood Hogan on him? Yeah.

[Max]

So they're saying this is the modern, modern birth of the nwo.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's pretty cool. It was a shocking moment, and it makes WrestleMania great. And triple H is running basically WWE now, and he seems like he's doing a good job.

[PFT Commenter]

And didn't Travis Scott, like, smoke a blunt, put it out on somebody?

[Dan Katz]

He.

[Max]

Travis Scott, like, punched the fuck out of Cody Rhodes actually punched him.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it actually. I know people were saying, like, is it all time moment? And Travis Scott was there, which is confusing. I think it actually is kind of funny because they were, like, focused on Travis Scott being there, saying this makes no sense. And then you have the heel turn, which is shocking. So kind of elevated the shock factor of it.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Max]

I think the pick, like the. The heel turn picture where it's Cena, the Rock, and, yeah, Travis Scott, who's, like, the biggest rapper in the world in the ring. Like, that's a. That's legendary.

[Dan Katz]

Awesome. Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

This is quite a. Quite a slap.

[Max]

That Travis Scott, dude, he smoked him.

[PFT Commenter]

So is. Is John Cena gonna stop doing make a wish now.

[Dan Katz]

How.

[PFT Commenter]

How deeply is he going to be committed to being the heel?

[Dan Katz]

No, he's team cancer.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's got to be. I mean, I would like to interview him again and just ask the same questions and see if he remembers, but yeah. Gene Hackman upstaged by John Cena, turning heel. RIP RIP Gene Hackman. Awesome, awesome actor. Hoosiers Best Crimson Tide. Okay. Pft. My.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's back is Hard Knocks? Hard Knocks off season is coming back, but it's not going to be in the NFL because the Giants screwed that up last year. And I don't think any. I think we predicted that on the show, which is that no front office is going to want to have every move they make documented so that when it doesn't work out, it gets thrown back in your face. So every team opted out. They couldn't find a team to do it, so instead they're going to do it with Bill Belichick at unc. Tard Knocks with Unc.

[Max]

I don't know if that's gonna. I don't know if that has legs.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't think that one.

[Dan Katz]

Tard Knocks.

[PFT Commenter]

T A R apostrophe D. Hard Knocks. You don't like it?

[Dan Katz]

Nah, I like.

[PFT Commenter]

I like Tard Knocks.

[Dan Katz]

Are you pumped for this, Hank?

[Max]

Very pumped. It's hilarious. The Bill Belichick college story is the gift that keeps on giving. It's like everything that he didn't want to do and didn't seem like he would ever do in the pros, he's.

[Dan Katz]

Just, you know, doing all of it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you know how they always have, like, some behind the scenes stuff on the coach, like Matt Uber flutes. Got a haircut last year.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. That change everything?

[PFT Commenter]

You think we're going to. We're going to see Bill Belichick hanging out with his girlfriend. Like date night?

[Max]

I would say definitely date night with.

[PFT Commenter]

Bill and his lady.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah. Jordan is going to be all over that Mike Tannenbaum.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like. He's in the front office down there, right?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I imagine we'll get to see him a lot again.

[Dan Katz]

No, Mike Lombardi.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Lombardi.

[Dan Katz]

Mike Lombardi.

[Max]

You're still thinking Gene Hackman. Royal tennant bumps.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah. Royal tennant bumps. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, I'm actually excited to watch this. I want to see. It's going to be a giant commercial for unc. That's the reason why he's doing it, obviously.

[Dan Katz]

Smart.

[PFT Commenter]

It's smart. It's Very smart. You get a lot of publicity, guys want to come play for you. It's going to be good to have Bill.

[Dan Katz]

Great. Be so grumpy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, so grumpy.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. I had John Cena as well. I guess I'll pivot to my second one. Daylight savings back this Saturday. Finally getting the later sun. Sun. What is it?

[PFT Commenter]

Spring back?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. So we're finally going to have a little more light out at night. Golf time. Ready to go? Wait, it actually is. Oh, Sunday, March 9th.

[Max]

I was gonna say this is.

[Dan Katz]

Missed it. Damn it. Although I was joking. I thought it was still another two weeks. If you.

[PFT Commenter]

If you. So you're. We're setting the clocks back correct.

[Dan Katz]

I swear to God. I thought that we had until like the second or third week of March and I was doing this. That might be. It might be over. The joke might be over. I up. What? This?

[PFT Commenter]

Actually.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I feel like every single year they say that they're. They're taking away daylight.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. It's just something that people like to say.

[Hank]

Why?

[Max]

Doesn't make sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it's easy. It's easy to complain about. Be like, this sucks in the winter time.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think everybody agrees that it sucks. But then if you. What was the thing?

[Hank]

I love it now.

[Max]

It would be worse. It would be worse if they got rid of it.

[Dan Katz]

We'd actually lose summer. Yeah, yeah, we'd lose. And people. I didn't. I always was like, let's not do it because I don't want it to go get dark at 4:30. And someone said once, they're like, well, what about kids going to school and pitch black? And I was like, good point. That's a fair point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Cuz like if it didn't. If we didn't do it, it would stay light out till 5:30 or 6:00, but the sun wouldn't rise till like 8:00am which would kind of be up. If you had kids having to go to school in pitch black and like walking on the streets, like getting on buses and stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're complaining about the clocks and how it works in the winter time, what you're doing, you're just complaining about winter. You're just saying like winter sucks. I wish this didn't happen.

[Dan Katz]

Wait, so this rocks. We made it. Yeah, we're back.

[Max]

That's huge.

[Dan Katz]

We're all the way.

[Max]

I actually. I got pre mad at you there.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, I know it's not because I. I really did think that it was not even close. I thought it was halfway through March that's huge. That's so huge. What are you doing? You're just looking at the weather, Max. I mean, I do it all the time. Yeah, how we. How are we looking?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it was not great. It was like 58 last week.

[Dan Katz]

And then we had a. But you know what? The sun was nice this weekend. What do we got next Tuesday?

[Max]

43, 62.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, I'm seeing 40s and 50s. We can deal with 40. Anything of anything in the 40s is fine. And 40s feel tropical.

[Max]

But once you see 60s, that's when. That's when it's.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, that's. Then it's on. Then it's on. Wait, is that Xiaomi? Lost Best Actor 63 on March 11. Put your circle it. That's gonna be a day, boys.

[Hank]

Saturday for Patty's Day. Rainy. That's ass.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, Sat. When St. Patty's Day is beautiful, there's just really nothing better.

[Max]

I. It's crazy. And I love it that Chicago goes hard. It seems like Chicago's harder for Saint Pais than like Boston. It's like the biggest day and of.

[Dan Katz]

Well, it's also the end of winter.

[Max]

I know. Yeah, I know.

[Dan Katz]

It's.

[Max]

It's crazy. It's like people go nuts for St.

[PFT Commenter]

Patty's you know, what a sneaky good St. Patty's Day city is Savannah, Georgia.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Savannah, Georgia. Fuck out for St. Patty's Day.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. I miss getting up on St. Patrick's Day. Should I do it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you should. I think I'm gonna do it this year.

[Dan Katz]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

And by getting up, I mean, I'll probably start drinking at 8am and then I'll go home at like 2:30. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Max]

Send the kids away.

[Dan Katz]

I just leave food out for them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's fine. Put a timer. One of those cat food distributors.

[Dan Katz]

We've got a. An issue in my house right now. There's an obsession with Max's. His butt. The cats family loves Max's butt. It was because of the combine on Thursday, which I fell. And then I came home and little kids just love any type of injury. And they just asked me a thousand questions about my knee. And then to get them distracted, I was like, look, here's. Here's my buddy Max. His butt was hanging out. And now all they. My daughter literally was asking two days later, like, can I see Max's butt? They just love.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, just.

[Dan Katz]

They're obsessed with. With the. With his butt.

[PFT Commenter]

It'll come out again soon.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Always does.

[Dan Katz]

Max is just a hit in my house. There's been a lot. I've sent him the videos. There's just been a lot of discussion about Max's butt. I need to see Max's butt.

[Hank]

Keep asking to see Max's butt. Can I see Max's butt?

[Dan Katz]

Can I see Max's butt? I want to see Max's butt. It's something about my genetics. Just got to see Max's butt. Yeah. All right, let's do our interviews. We got Nick Sirianni, Diana Rossini, and then we'll finish off with lottery balls.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Dan Katz]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is super bowl champion head coach Nick Sirianni from the Philadelphia Eagles. Does this. Does that sound good? Is that. Has that gotten old yet?

[Nick Sirianni]

That. No, never will.

[Dan Katz]

I. My first question actually, like, and I. You can, you can be honest with us. Like, I think it's that you have to go back to work only three weeks after winning the Super Bowl. Like, I was thinking about it. You're in Indy right now. You're doing work. Was there a party? Like, me personally, if I won a Super Bowl, I'd fuck off forever. I would, I wouldn't get that hunger back. But how is it? Like, it's, it's bang, bang. The NFL schedule doesn't stop.

[Nick Sirianni]

You know, it started right away because we, we had some coaching turnover. Right. And so this is not my first day back. We've been, we've been interviewing and trying to hire coaches and exit interviews with players, stuff like that. And, you know, takes what it takes. It takes what it takes. So, you know, obviously had. We enjoyed ourselves. You saw the parade. Yeah, yeah, we enjoyed ourselves. We had some other nights that we enjoyed ourselves. But it's right back to work to try to, you know, to go through the steps to put you in position to be able to do it again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the exit interviews after winning super bowl have to kick ass. It's just people being like, yeah, that was, that was awesome.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that was cool.

[Nick Sirianni]

One of the questions at the exit interviews is like, what do you think we went. Went well as a team? And they, and so like after the first three where they were like, coach, yeah, I got it. So I said so that I rephrased the question. Besides winning the super bowl, what do you think went well as a team? Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, those are, those are good exit interviews, but, you know, just love spending time with the guys and, and continuing the relationships and everything like that.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, so. So be honest with this one too. At what point during the super bowl, we were like, we got this. It's over. Because it had, I know the coach speak. You can be like, it's, you know, you gotta play 60 minutes. You never know. It's Patrick Mahomes. But I mean, come on, halfway through the third quarter, you're like, this is, it's over.

[Nick Sirianni]

We got this, you know, in 2022. We were up 2414 at halftime and they were getting the ball to come out of half and they went down and scored. You know, we were up 24, nothing at halftime there, and they were getting the ball coming out of half, and so we knew how important that drive was going to be. You know, I think at 40, when we were up 40 to 6, I remember saying to our staff, I'M like, I think. I think let's put. Let's. Let's take the starters out.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

And one of the coaches, like, coach, you sure? There was like, six minutes left? And I go, yes, I'm sure. We. We can take the starters out right now. Let's get everybody in the game and let's. Let's them all and all play. So I think it. It took a. It took a long time. That was. That's a phenomenal team. We played with phenomenal coaches, phenomenal players. Maybe one of the best players of all time on the other sideline. And so it wasn't, hey, until the fat lady sings. We knew. We knew at some point. Yeah, it was 40 to 6 with five minutes left to go. We could. We could. We could be there.

[Dan Katz]

That was very nice of you, but you. You beat their ass. You did.

[PFT Commenter]

It was an ass kicking.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You stopped them. Yeah, it was great. And now that you're a couple of years removed from the first Super Bowl, I think you can say without it seeming like sour grapes or like you're complaining about it, but the. The grass, the sod father from the Chiefs, he. You out of that Super Bowl.

[Nick Sirianni]

You know, the whole time during the parade and really a couple of the celebrate, you know, celebration. It really was the parade. I was like, it just. I don't know, it's just the way we're. The way it is. Sometimes you're like, man, I wish I'd have been able to do this in 2022. That, you know, and so that it was like, you're enjoying it, and the parade was awesome, and the people of Philadelphia are unbelievers, believable. And the celebration was great players, everything. But there are moments that you're having when you have the beer in your hand, you got to point it over to the. The crowd. Like, man, I wish I would have been able to go through this two years ago. So, yeah, we weren't. You know, they. They beat us and they had to play on that field, too. So I'll never. I'll never give an excuse on that. So.

[Dan Katz]

Can I tell you when I think you won the Super Bowl? When I was like, I think this is over. When you didn't cry during the national anthem, was there any part of you that was like, this time, don't cry, because that was also when you lost the Super bowl in 2022 is like, dude, you can't cry during the national anthem. Like, you got to save the tears for winning the Super Bowl. Was there a part of you in game prep where you're like, okay, I know they're going to sing this song like, don't Cry.

[Nick Sirianni]

Like, practice in front of the mirror. Like, have the last. Chris Stapleton last time singing it. And I just sit in front of the mirror like, don't cry. Don't cry.

[Dan Katz]

You're stronger than that.

[Nick Sirianni]

Don't do it. Football's an emotional game. You know, I. I would. I would say it's just an emotional game and all the emotions. Y. Maybe it was. Maybe. You know what? I'll attribute it to that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Good, Good. I love it.

[Dan Katz]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they had a crier, too. Chris Jones. He cries during the national anthem as well. I thought it would be just like an arms race. You guys would even cry harder this.

[Nick Sirianni]

Year should they had to stand, like, right next to each other. Yeah. Face to face and just look and see who cried first.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but it was a. It was a great season for you guys. How much credit do you give to Big Dom versus how much credit do you give to shaving your head?

[Dan Katz]

Oh, good question.

[PFT Commenter]

How do you balance that?

[Nick Sirianni]

So nobody. Nobody. Nobody in the NFL does their job as good as Dom does his. Let me brag on him for a second. Nobody is. Nobody wants to help people more like it is. What. In a. In a world that we live in where there's so many people about themselves and this and that. That's what I loved about our team, too. We're completely selfless team. No one cared how we won. They just wanted to win. And. Which is really special. I would. I think. I wish people were talking about that more, especially in the world we live in today. Our. Our guys wanted to sacrifice for each other and win for each other and be selfless with it. Well, that's how. That's how Dom lives every single day. Like, he. He. He lives to help other diamond here.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

He lives to help other people do their job. And it. And it's special. Like, it takes special qualities. And. Yeah. So that. That has way more effect on when I. I didn't have time to get a haircut on Friday when we normally get haircuts, and I'm like, you know what? Hair's a little long. I'm gonna. I'm just gonna do it myself.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

It didn't look great when I did it myself. So when my assistant had to kind of trim me up there. My daughter. I. I got. My wife hates when I do that. I do it. I do it in the summer every once in a While, like, you know, I don't. I don't. My daughter. So my wife. I know my wife hates it. And then my daughter said to my wife, like. Like, are you gonna divorce Daddy? Now that happened. I'm like, whoa, she's seven. She didn't know what that means. So obviously she heard that from somebody else. I don't know what's going on here.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Is that. Is you. You have three kids, right?

[Nick Sirianni]

Three.

[Dan Katz]

Which one is your favorite? Human shield?

[Nick Sirianni]

Well, if you look at when Howie got hit by the beer can at the.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

At the. And during the parade, it whizzes by my wife if there's. There's a couple angles, because it's like. Like they have a very different angle. Yeah, I. I really. I actually think I. I could. I could make a montage of all the angles of the beer can hitting Howie in the head. And there's one angle where it whizzes by my daughter and. And my. And my wife, and it hits Howie, and I'm like, you know what?

[Dan Katz]

Better. Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Howie. Than my two beautiful girls.

[Dan Katz]

And it would have. It would have been bad because, you know, obviously, after. It was at the Cleveland game where you brought your kids to the podium.

[Nick Sirianni]

That's where you're going with.

[Dan Katz]

Great move, by the way, that I tip my hat to you. I have three kids. Like. Like, I know that. Listen, I love my kids, but really, their purpose is, if I ever get into trouble, I'm just gonna bring them around, be like, look at my three kids.

[Nick Sirianni]

You know, it's so hard to win a game in the NFL that my moment was never to be like, I'm gonna shield him from a tough question. We just won the game.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Miles Garrett jumped over. We were up, what, 10 nothing. And it was about to be 13 nothing a half. He jumped over, someone blocked the kick, and they returned it for a touch. Yeah, it's hard to win.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

And so my. My whole thing there was like, let's.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's.

[Nick Sirianni]

Let's go celebrate the win. Some people in the media didn't take it that way, so I got it. I got it. So my wife said, no more. No more kids up at the podium anyway.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This. This year was kind of crazy for you, because it started out, things seemed to be like. It was. They were a little bit rocky at the beginning, and then they kind of turned around a little bit after that Saints game. Do you remember the ending of that Saints game? I think it was Dallas caught that long pass, right. Really broke the game. Open.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you feel like the season switched at that point? Point?

[Nick Sirianni]

No.

[Dan Katz]

No.

[Nick Sirianni]

I mean, because the next week. I think it was the next week we got our butts kicked by Tampa.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Nick Sirianni]

But that was a huge play and it was an awesome play. You know, as I remember it, we're like third and 16. Jalen puts a per. We had perfect protection up front. We hadn't been doing much on offense. The defense was playing their butts off, and we haven't been doing much on offense all day. We get great protection, protection up front. Jalen delivers the ball perfectly. Johan Dotson, you know, kind of gets Dallas Goddard open. I think, like, three of their guys ran into each other and then.

[Dan Katz]

And.

[Nick Sirianni]

And Dallas went and ripped it. But it is plays like that that you're like, yeah. I think there's so many moments in the season, you're like, man, that. That play, that play, that play, that play. And that's what's cool about it.

[Dan Katz]

Right?

[Nick Sirianni]

And there's teams that, that lost or didn't accomplish the goals they wanted to accomplish, and they look. That play, that play, that play. It just makes, you know how important the day in, day out work is. So the breaks go your way.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So we. We've defended the Twitch push on the show. I. I do have something and I say that as a Commanders fan. I, I am not going to complain my way out of getting my ass kicked. Like, that's not how football should work. Right. It's a football play. Other teams are free to use it if they want to. They're just not as good at it. I saw that you were insulted by the fact that the packers are trying to get rid of the rule that you should feel complimented by that.

[Nick Sirianni]

You know what The. The compliment that I do feel from it is that it's stretched to every portion of football. Right. It's showed in college football, pro football, high school football, peewee football. My son scored on it this year.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, hell yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That would piss me off. If I was like, if I had a son that was playing against your son and Sirianni's son is coaching on me, I'd be like, yeah, get that play out of football. It's bad for the game.

[Nick Sirianni]

Insulted. Because we work. We work hard at that thing and like, it's. It's automatic. Well, it's autumn. It's automatic because of the work that's put in and because of the players that we have that are performing it. It's not automatic, like, throughout the entire league. Right, Right. It's not okay, well, Steph Curry shouldn't be allowed to shoot threes. Only in the fourth quarter can Steph Curry shoot three. Like, what are we. What are we talking about? You can't. You can't just make a roll up because. Right. It's. It's benefiting one team and everywhere else, it's not quite as good. I mean, we saw it in one of the championship games. They got. One of the teams got stuffed on it and turnover and downs. Yeah. In the game over.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. It's also very funny because it's like, how do you stop the tush push? Like, don't let the Eagles get to fourth and two.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

There's three other downs. Stop them.

[Nick Sirianni]

No doubt.

[Dan Katz]

We've. We've been putting a lot respect on your name even before the super bowl, because it is, like, when you take a step back. I know Philly's a tough place to coach sometimes, but you guys, you know, you. I think you have the highest winning percentage of any active head coach right now. Four years in the playoffs, two NFC Championship games, Super bowl, and you've done it all. Coaching Italian. You're Italian. Is that hard where like, sometimes your anger, like, you want to bang on a pot and pan or, like, just scream and, like, like, that's got to be difficult. You're doing it all under the influence. Influence of Italian.

[Nick Sirianni]

I think that's emotion, right? That's emotion, right? And that's what makes me unique. It's my emotion. And it's all Italian right there. No doubt. I got. Yeah, you just try to be who you are. Players see through that if they're not. So the emotion of the game, the. The anger at times.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Nick Sirianni]

The celebrations at times, the talking with our hands at times, the, you know, whether I'm talking to a referee, whether I'm talking to a player or whatever it is. Yeah. I embrace that.

[Dan Katz]

Do you guys. Do you think you have too many Italians? You have a lot of Italians?

[Nick Sirianni]

You got a lot of Italians?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Can you ever have too many?

[Dan Katz]

I don't know. Like, it just gets combustible. There's so many Italians.

[Nick Sirianni]

No, no, no. You got Fangio. Now. Now, our coordinators. You got. You got Fangio.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

You got Patulo, you got Siriani, you got Dom, and you got Michael Clay.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

All right, Michael. Michael Clay is our special team coordinator.

[Dan Katz]

So many Italians.

[PFT Commenter]

There is one thing that pisses me off that you do, and I want to confront you face to face as a football viewer. When you. You line up to go for two to. In the first half, try to get them to jump off sides. They don't jump off sides. Then you call a timeout, then you kick the extra point. Anyways, as a fan of watching football on tv, that's a tough minute for me.

[Nick Sirianni]

You don't like it.

[PFT Commenter]

I get Matt. Well, it's because I think that there's about to be a play.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's no play.

[Nick Sirianni]

You're excited for the play.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just going to kick it.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Use the timeout. That's a very smart football move.

[Nick Sirianni]

But, you know, that's for you to notice. It.

[Dan Katz]

It.

[Nick Sirianni]

I love that. I love that you noticed that. We. That's what we were doing. Because it could be like, oh, they just messed it. Like, I don't think your average fan notices that that's going on. They're like, oh, they didn't have the right formation. They just banged the time out. It's very insight impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

But I mean, we get.

[Nick Sirianni]

Did I change your opinion on. No, I complimented you. Right.

[Dan Katz]

Just.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I appreciate the compliment. I think you're right that I am a very insightful football fan. But just the. It just delays. We get enough commercials already watching, I hear.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Point taken.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So just think of the fans when you do that next time. It's mildly annoying to a casual football viewer.

[Dan Katz]

Did you. This year, did you ever, like, go to Saquon and be like, hey, dude, can you just do that 60 yard run thing where you do.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, I think that's the game plan every week. It's like, yeah, it was. I mean, remember where you remember when you jumped over the guy backwards? Can you do that?

[Dan Katz]

Do the touchdown play real quick.

[Nick Sirianni]

Do that again.

[Dan Katz]

I mean, he was. It was insane. Was there a moment where you're like, this is. This is just not normal. That like every. It felt like every week he'd just rip along.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, no, that's. That's how it feels right there. Like, I think that the moment that. I love the reaction of our sideline when he jumped over that guy. And that's what we, you know, I think we saw that every day at practice. I mean, not that he was like, we're not tackling full speed and he can get jumping over guys. But like, you just see the athletic. The freaky athletic ability that he has, man. And, And I'll say this, like, what an unbelievable person. Like, if you, if we just. If you said Saquon Barkley, go know the first thing that would come out of my mouth is, this guy's an unbelievable person. This guy's an unbelievable teammate. This guy's an unbelievable leader. He's an unbelievable worker. And then we could start talking about the plays that he makes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

It's all those things that make him who he is.

[PFT Commenter]

You think he's a better human being than football player?

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

No, there's no chance. I think he's one of the best. You think he's a top.0001% human?

[Nick Sirianni]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Worldwide.

[Dan Katz]

No chance.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yes.

[Dan Katz]

No chance. He's. He's better at football.

[Nick Sirianni]

Look at me. Yes. Take the sunglasses down.

[Dan Katz]

Yes.

[Nick Sirianni]

If I had something like you have.

[Dan Katz]

But he's one of the best football players.

[Nick Sirianni]

That's how good in the world. And that's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

He's one of the best humans, like, probably. We're talking top 10 human being in the entire world.

[Dan Katz]

You're gonna say he's a top 10 human being?

[Nick Sirianni]

Well, I don't. Is that. If he's.

[Dan Katz]

He's a top 10 football player in the world?

[Nick Sirianni]

Top 10. There's a lot of people. More people in the world.

[Dan Katz]

Exactly.

[Nick Sirianni]

There is human beings, right? I'd say the top, like, thousand human beings.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so better football player than human being. You just admitted it.

[Dan Katz]

Thank you. Point us.

[Nick Sirianni]

He's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

He's awesome. What's it like knowing that at any given time, Howie could be working on something just insane that will make your life very complicated the next, like, 24 hours?

[Nick Sirianni]

Insane.

[Dan Katz]

He's all he's got. He, like.

[PFT Commenter]

No matter who is available, who's not even available. I feel like Howie is always cooking something up.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah. It's gonna make my life. The secret to good coaching is get good players.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

How? He does a great job of that. So it. It, it. It's. He's making my life easier and easier. Every move that he makes, it's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess just like, more exciting. Maybe complicated is the right word. But, you know, at any given time, he could surprise you with the present. Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

I love it. I love. It's the best. It's the best.

[Dan Katz]

It's.

[Nick Sirianni]

It's the absolute best. He's the. He's the best g. He is the best GM in the world. I have no doubt in my mind.

[Dan Katz]

He is pretty damn good. The proof is in the pudding.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to get Max involved?

[Dan Katz]

Well, let me ask you this. Coaching in Philadelphia is tough. I think you. It's pretty crazy. The swings you've had where, you know, like I said, you've been to the playoffs four years in a row. You've Gone to two Super Bowls. One. One. But you were also some of the fan base had you on the hot seat.

[Nick Sirianni]

Sure.

[Dan Katz]

At the beginning of the year, some people in this room had you on the hot seat.

[Nick Sirianni]

Who was it?

[Dan Katz]

That would be Max. You 100 had him on the hot seat.

[Hank]

Come on. That's not true.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Hank]

There's no proof of that here.

[Dan Katz]

And ask some questions also. Let me ask you this. This. So, yeah, Max, come on in here. Super Bowl. After the super bowl, you guys go to the party. You're at the hotel. I would assume, like, this is the pinnacle of your career. People are asking for pictures. You love taking pictures with people. Like, that's. That's a moment that, like, hey, this is what I want to do. Share it with the fans.

[Nick Sirianni]

Sure.

[Dan Katz]

Is that fair to say that you love taking pictures with people in that moment?

[Nick Sirianni]

I love taking pictures with them.

[PFT Commenter]

In that moment.

[Hank]

Perfect dancer. Perfect dancer.

[Nick Sirianni]

I think it's the right thing to do.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Nick Sirianni]

And it's easy way to. Here's my opinion on it. Do I love, like. And I got my son or my. Do I love taking pictures? I wouldn't say I love taking pictures, but it's such an easy thing. Like, it's such an easy thing to do, to show. To help somebody make their day or show gratitude.

[Dan Katz]

Right. But we're like. Was it. Let me phrase it a different way. Would it. It was an appropriate time for people to ask you for pictures?

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Now I had to. Like, I normally stop and take a picture with everybody.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Nick Sirianni]

But when that mask of, like, I had to. I had to keep going.

[Dan Katz]

So, yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Sorry to anybody. I didn't take a picture.

[Dan Katz]

No, you did. So. So you took a picture with Pug.

[Nick Sirianni]

Okay. Did I ice somebody in this?

[Dan Katz]

No, no. Max thought he was like. He was like, I'm. I'm so much better than everyone. I'm not gonna ruin this moment.

[Nick Sirianni]

You want to do a picture now.

[Dan Katz]

You do it after.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I didn't ask for a picture because I was like, you know, this is the best night of his life. I wanted you to, you know, enjoy the night and not get hounded by. By a bunch of pictures. So I thought, out of respect, he.

[Dan Katz]

Wants credit for that.

[Hank]

I don't want credit for that. I just got Rid one by not.

[Nick Sirianni]

Wait a second. Max, you wanted me fired, so don't. Never mind.

[Dan Katz]

That's not true.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not true.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, you did. You had him on the hot seat. But you had hot seat.

[PFT Commenter]

You had your eye on Sirianni.

[Hank]

People In Philly, you know, sometimes we get over emotional and we say things that we don't mean.

[Dan Katz]

Max is also very Italian. We actually are like the Eagles. We have our entire behind the scenes.

[Nick Sirianni]

Has there ever got Matt, Patricia?

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah, he cosplays Kelsey.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, he little Kelsey, a little Patricia. You guys see it?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah. But we have, we have all of our support staff is all Italians. So we're kind of modeling after the Eagles.

[Nick Sirianni]

Do you have too many Italians?

[Dan Katz]

I think we do. Not enough, but yeah. So Max is very Italian. He gets very emotional. He might have had you on the hot seat start the season.

[Hank]

Sometimes you say things you don't mean.

[Dan Katz]

That's all.

[Hank]

That's all.

[Dan Katz]

Okay, so.

[Hank]

All right, first question. Going off of that, that how does it feel now to be in this class of immortality in Philadelphia? Like going into the year was obviously a little, A little feisty with you and the Philly fans. And now no matter what you do, you're all like, you're automatically on the pantheon of like all time greats, you know.

[Nick Sirianni]

You know what I'd say about that? You know, if someone, a couple people have asked me like, why once you get up and be like, look at me, like, do something like that, right? And I'm like, you know, I'm actually grateful for this. I'm gonna.

[Dan Katz]

This.

[Nick Sirianni]

I know this is in the mood we're in right now, but like, because we're having fun. But I'm grateful for the criticism. I'm grateful for the adversity because it truly makes you and I look back at my entire life. The adversity has made me who I am. I have no doubt in my mind that it would have been hard to win the super bowl this year if we didn't finish the season the way we did last year. And I'm grateful for the adversity. I'm grateful for the criticism. And the reason I'm grateful for the criticism is because, you know, I, I got three kids that I'm going to raise in this social media world that they're going to get criticized. Right? And they're. And I'm going to have to be able to parent them in those scenarios. And what a great opportunity I have and a great experience I have of what we went through right. With the light on the other side of the tunnel. And then also, you know, we have a ton of players that get criticized. I love Brandon Graham when he talks about how he was criticized so early in his career. He put his head down, he worked his butt off he learned from the adversity, got better. And he has the 15 year career, you know, 15 plus year career that he's had, that he's had. And I love that. I love that. Now I'm able to share that too, with guys. And so I'm grateful for it. And. And, you know, it sucks when you're going through it, but grateful for it. Now let's get back to some fun.

[Dan Katz]

Well, I would imagine it makes it sweeter. Like.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

You know, like if. If everything's easy, then the. The great moments don't feel this.

[Nick Sirianni]

No doubt.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Nick Sirianni]

What 50 cents say in that one song, pain wouldn't feel so good.

[Dan Katz]

Or I'll take you to your candy shop.

[PFT Commenter]

It's your birthday.

[Nick Sirianni]

No, I think it was. I'll take you to the kitchen. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And then they did that movie with Old School where they remade it. That's one of my favorite lines, by the way.

[Dan Katz]

Another Italian has walked in. Diana Rossini's here. So we just. We're full of Italians. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a great room.

[Nick Sirianni]

This is.

[Dan Katz]

Is. We're close to having a RICO act on this, on this whole room.

[Hank]

All right, Max, go number one. That was great. I'm happy that you're in this moment now because, like, Howie Roseman is another one that, like, people really criticized him after, like, the Jalen Rager Justin Jefferson thing.

[Dan Katz]

I just say you. You criticized him.

[Nick Sirianni]

You see this pattern here? Bg, Myself.

[Hank]

It's good. It's good. And I'm happy. I'm happy. Philadelphia's turned on people who deserve to be turned on for the better.

[PFT Commenter]

You're turned on.

[Hank]

This guy just loves to twist my words. I try and say something right. Never works. All right, next question. Back to Italians. Is Kevin Patullo Italian? Because I'm seeing different reports.

[Nick Sirianni]

What are you seeing?

[Hank]

A lot of people are saying that. That it's actually a Scottish name. I'm.

[Nick Sirianni]

No, no.

[Hank]

I just want to dismiss those rumors.

[Nick Sirianni]

If he's been lying to me for. I've been working with him for eight years. Years. All right, all the way back to Indy and then here. Like, if he's been lying to me about being Italian for this long, he can't be. Who can. Like, who can hold a lie for that long if it's not because he's been lying to me for eight years? If he has.

[Hank]

No, I love it.

[Nick Sirianni]

He'd be like. He'd be like George Costanza. If he can hold a lie for.

[Hank]

That, I believe it. I just wanted the people of Philadelphia to know, coming from you, that Dom Italian certified stamped.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Follow up question to that, that. Let's get, let's get the boys fired up about.

[Nick Sirianni]

No questions on Fangio, though.

[Hank]

Well, I, obviously.

[Nick Sirianni]

We got another guy.

[Hank]

He's a nice Bison.

[Nick Sirianni]

If you have a question about this guy or, or one of our senior special teams assistant Joe Panunzio. Any questions? No questions.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Hank]

An excellent python. I know. I, I believe I believed it. I just want the people to stop, you know, putting out these fake rumors.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, good. I'm glad I was able to clear that up.

[Hank]

But following up on Kevin Patulo, can we get the Eagles fans fired up? Like, what's he going to bring to this offense? Tell me about Kevin Patulo.

[Nick Sirianni]

Kevin, I haven't made a decision over the, the last five years or really even going back to Indy without the assistance of Kevin Patulo. And that's just in whether it's offense, whether it's head coaching, whether it's something to do with anything. He's my, the guy I lean into the most. And that's really. You talk to Shane Steichen, you talk to Brian Johnson, you talk to Kellen Moore, they're all say the same thing. This guy is a star, you know, loves football, bleeds football, wants to do. Every, like, has a great look at all the, what the player, all the players said about him after he got, after he got hired. An endorsement that he gave, that every one of them gave him. He's special coach. And, and when you're able to, when you have a coach that you can keep consistency and continuity in the building for your offense, that can be promoted, you do that. And we had a guy that was there ready to do it, and I'm excited about his opportunity and I want him to do so well that he gets job interviews next year, but doesn't get him. But doesn't get. But doesn't get the. You know, because I don't want to move on. And then I hope he does so well again that he gets those job interview again and he strikes out on being a head coach again. And then maybe then the third year does so well again, misses out on it one more time. And then the fourth year of him being the coordinator, then he goes, that seems fair to me.

[Hank]

Yeah, let's get right to continuity.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a good plan.

[Hank]

All right, that's it.

[Dan Katz]

Good question. Apologize for putting him on the hot seat.

[Nick Sirianni]

I, he, he, he didn't actually apologize.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

He said that's just the way we are. You know, it's like I yell at the refs.

[Dan Katz]

That's just the way.

[Hank]

No, I'm Italian. I'm sorry guy.

[Nick Sirianni]

I'm an emotional guy.

[PFT Commenter]

He said, you're thanking.

[Nick Sirianni]

That's an apology.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question from max 12 months ago. Oh, max 12 months ago would ask you.

[Hank]

No, no, no. Come on.

[Nick Sirianni]

This.

[Dan Katz]

This is.

[PFT Commenter]

This was a question that you had a year ago.

[Dan Katz]

I didn't.

[Nick Sirianni]

That.

[Hank]

That's a different. That's a different guy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

But let's just ask you.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you do during games?

[Nick Sirianni]

No, no, I just kind of hang out.

[Hank]

I just kind of hang out, making this up.

[PFT Commenter]

You asked it.

[Nick Sirianni]

I just kind of hang out during games. High five, people.

[Dan Katz]

That's what Max thinks.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yell at people. Yell people. High five, people. That's about it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Flip off a guy in the stands.

[Nick Sirianni]

I never. I didn't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

He encouraged you, right? He was like. He was like, we got to run Saquan more. And you're like, I will.

[Nick Sirianni]

And then you did it, and we did it. I'm like, did you like that? He said, yes, and I said, okay. And then it kind of became a little bit more of a topic than it was.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

The guy. Do you know that guy actually called in and said he wasn't talking to the whole family. He was talking to me, and he was having fun with me, and nobody went with that story. I know the evils of. I'm sorry. The evils of the media. We'll listen to what we want to listen to and not put out the other.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, yeah. Definitely spread that. You were yelling at a fan.

[Hank]

Yeah, not me.

[Dan Katz]

Absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I think we did read it, because I think he wrote online. He was like, hey, this is me. Yeah, the fan.

[Nick Sirianni]

He was talking directly to me. That's what the guy said. I was talking directly to him, and. Nope. And I'm like, nobody even went with it. It. The story was written the way it wanted to be written, and that's where it went from there. So.

[Dan Katz]

By the way, I think you misquoted Max. I think his quote was, what does he even do during game?

[Nick Sirianni]

I don't think.

[Hank]

I don't think that that's.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, that went. Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Well, it's good that they're making this up, huh?

[Dan Katz]

You got a Super Bowl.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah. No, these are the burdens of leadership. Right. It's. Leadership's not always seen. Right. It's not always seen. And. And you know what we. I know what I signed up for.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

I know That I know that there's criticism that. That comes when. When you don't perform the way that, you know, need to perform. And that's what we signed up for.

[Dan Katz]

I also think when Max said that, you're like, you know, immortality, I would say until we. Three and a half.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

One in four, you're gonna be back on Max's hospital.

[Hank]

That's incorrect. That's incorrect.

[Nick Sirianni]

Well, you know, the. The last. The last time I. They told me about this when I first got here, they said, you know, we won the Super bowl in 2017. I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that. And. And then they're like, well, the next year, in 2018, we went three and out our first drive, and they were booming. Bowing. Yeah, it may have been. And I may be exaggerating, and it also may have been. We were. We were. We didn't score any points at halftime, and they were bowing. I'm like, shoot, that's Philly.

[Dan Katz]

You better score some passionate.

[Nick Sirianni]

You gotta throw some points. Don't go three and out.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. All right, I had one last question. This has been awesome, coach. Really appreciate it. Roback question. R, H, O, b, a, c, k dot com. Promo code. Take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Promo code. Take our mutual friend Jason Candle. Why you got to hire him? I know he's killing it. Toledo. But he's. He's a hell of an offensive coach.

[Nick Sirianni]

He's a stud.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, he's a stud. And he's done awesome job at Toledo. Jason and I were teammates, right? Jason and I were teammates his senior year in 2001. All right. And my sophomore year, it took me a little. It really was like my sec. I had three more years after that because it took me some more time to graduate Italian. Yeah, him and I were the starting receivers for the first two games. I got hurt, and I was out the rest of the year. But then Jason was my coach, you know, in 2002 and 2003, he was my. He was my receiver coach. Right? So imagine the guy you drink a lot of beers with and hang out with a lot. Now he's down. Now he's yelling at you and telling you what to do and everything like that, but he's a great. He was. He's a great coach. Then fast forward to when I. Now I'm going into coaching, and I. And I take a job at Mount Union. Now, not only is he my roommate, my. You know, because I'm gonna live in his House. He's my roommate, he's my colleague, and he's my landlord because he's charging me money to live in a home. Right. Listen to this. A lot of coaches lived in that. There's about five coaches that Jason was making money off of, all of us, you know, charging us rent. I got the room because I was, you know, they were a little. They were all a year or two older than me.

[Dan Katz]

Me.

[Nick Sirianni]

And I got the room that was in the. That was in the living room. It was connected to the dining room. I had a sheet for a little bit of privacy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

No heat in that room, so I had a space heater. Oh, right. And so. And I was still getting charged the same amount of rent as everybody else, so.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

And so no Jason. Yeah, there you have it. You said it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Did he tell it? Did he tip you off last year, being like Quinion Mitchell? Like.

[Nick Sirianni]

Oh, yeah. He gives great, great insight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I just wanted to pump Jason Candle's tires because.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yes, he's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah, he's done. He's done a great job and really value his. His opinion on things and find myself checking in with him on what he would do in certain situations. And, you know, I know he's come and watch us practice and. And we share information and great relationship there and always proud to check his scores or watch his games and. And, you know, I don't shy away from telling people in the building, like, they don't see Mount Union scores.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

So I'm like, hey, do you see Toledo? Yeah, that's my guy.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Nick Sirianni]

Who won that game?

[PFT Commenter]

What is it about Mountain Union that real football guys know? Like, there's something special about that college when it comes to coaching.

[Nick Sirianni]

We learned how to win there, and the coach that we all played for, Larry Karras, taught us how to win, taught us. And then the guys that wanted to. That came back and coached for him taught us how to coach. In Jason's case, taught him how to take advantage of his tenants in his. In his. In his house with the. With the heat. No heat and everything like that. But, no, he just taught us how to win and taught us how to coach and taught us, you know, everything that he had to offer us to. To get better as football coaches. And, you know, how awesome is it for. For Coach Karras now to see, you know, Matt Campbell, you know, doing the things that he's doing at Iowa State and Jason and doing the things that he's doing at Toledo, and then, you know, obviously us winning. He's, you know, he's got another guy here on the Colts that's the tight end coach. He's got coaches everywhere that have played either played for him and coached for him, my both my brothers included that he's, that he's touched our lives and, and, and helped us reach our goals.

[Dan Katz]

Well, coach, thank you so much. Also, congrats on the new contract. I don't think it's happened yet, but winning a Super bowl right before a contract here, good, that was a good move. That's some good. Yeah, yeah, that's some good. I know that you've probably been like, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, congrats on that. Congrats on all the success and appreciate you stopping by.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah, thanks for having me. It was fun.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Dan Katz]

Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest, our good friend Diana Rossini from the Athletic. You can listen to her podcast, Scoop City. Great podcast, by the way. Podcast. Where's the invite?

[Diana Rossini]

I've invited PFTs. Come on. I've sent you numerous times.

[Dan Katz]

You did not send me an invite.

[Diana Rossini]

I never have. He wasn't very good. So my thought was, all right, I'm going to avoid these guys for a bit, let them find their rhythm again, and then I'll invite big cats on.

[PFT Commenter]

Your podcast in your little pod.

[Diana Rossini]

Our downloads weren't very good.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's not. That's. That's fake.

[Dan Katz]

You are. I'm a boycott in solidarity. Yeah, no, you were.

[PFT Commenter]

What she did was.

[Diana Rossini]

Well, I know you guys were so nervous about us, you know, jumping you guys as the number one sports podcast on the platform. It. So Scoop city. Yeah, yeah. S.C. city.

[Dan Katz]

We don't even. A lion doesn't concern themselves with sheep. Yeah. All right, so, Diana, we're here at the combine. What's the buzz? What's the biggest story right now at the combine?

[Diana Rossini]

The fact that you guys did not go out at all last night? That. That is the buzz, babies. You turned 40 and you lost all your stamina. That's fast texting with you guys. Like, no going to bed. It's 8.

[Dan Katz]

45.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I stayed up till 10.

[Dan Katz]

Also, I wanted on the record that I went home at 11 o'clock, but I didn't go to sleep till 1 because I watched New Mexico lose and not cover till 1 o'clock.

[Diana Rossini]

Fair. So I'm not 40 yet, so I don't. I don't know what that's gonna feel like. Yeah. So. But I'm learning that it hits you hard, huh?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

It comes at you quick.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah. And we're losers, so.

[PFT Commenter]

But do I need to fact check? This is going to get community noted.

[Diana Rossini]

What's that thing?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you're. You're 42.

[Diana Rossini]

Why would you do that?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, because you were talking about downloads.

[Dan Katz]

Oh.

[Diana Rossini]

42 is the amount of downloads I got.

[Dan Katz]

I believed it. All right, so Wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, will the team let him do the Pat McAfee show per year reporting?

[Diana Rossini]

I said that the jets discussed with Aaron Rodgers what this year would look like if he stayed a Jet. Right. How are we going to do this Pat McAfee thing? We would really like you to cut back on a lot of this stuff, the distractions, so we could all be one. Keep it all out. New chapter, New New York Jets. There was no ultimatum ever made. Aaron Rodgers is not New York anymore because he can't do Pat McAfee. That never even. It was never that hard of a conversation. It was just, look, I was giving the jets credit through the whole thing of, how about them taking their team back?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Hey, Aaron Rodgers, you haven't performed up to the level that we've wanted you to.

[PFT Commenter]

You're mad.

[Diana Rossini]

In rating tips we've given you.

[Dan Katz]

Rick is very upset.

[Diana Rossini]

We've given you every player, everyone that you want, and it's still not good. So we're going to start treating you the way everyone else should be treated. And I think Rogers appreciates that. Like, I think he's the type of player where maybe it appears that he wants that special treatment, but he lives in a space of the best coaches lead by holding the best players accountable, and everyone gets that same kind of treatment. And I think that's what the jets were trying to do. And in the end, I think both sides were like, yeah, no, this.

[Dan Katz]

This.

[Diana Rossini]

This isn't going to work. Not just because of that. I think there's a series of reasons.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Miles Garrett? What are you hearing with him?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. So, look, Cleveland is yelling from the rooftop. We are not moving him. But just. We. We've seen this a million times. They say that now, but I think when we get closer to the draft, we'll see some movement. I think Philly's going to try to go hard here. I think Howie is going to make some decisions here in free agency and determine who he can live without. And. And I think some of these guys that are up, he's going to be comfortable walking away from, despite the fact they obviously just had success with this roster. But I think you make those kind of moves and you. You take a big swing for. For someone like Miles Garrett. And Howie will tell you, and I'm sure Nick said it, too, when he spoke to you guys, like, they build their team, you know, through. Through their lines. So what. I mean, what better answer than bringing in a Miles Garrett?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Yeah. Was this the first year that you had an MVP Vote.

[Diana Rossini]

It was my second year.

[Dan Katz]

The second year.

[Diana Rossini]

It was the first year it was revealed.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

And I did not know that. And I was out to dinner and my phone was blowing up with people in football very angry that I voted for people that I voted for. So that stunk. I wish I knew that, because I.

[Dan Katz]

Think it would have changed your vote.

[Diana Rossini]

It would not have changed my vote, but I love Josh Allen, and I.

[Dan Katz]

Am avoiding him as much as I.

[Diana Rossini]

Do for a really long time. I'm a. Well, I'm well aware.

[Dan Katz]

I was really thinking about him winning the mvp.

[Diana Rossini]

I feel like I have to apologize. I still believe my vote was right. Like, I think I was. I was looking at it differently than. Than I think the other voters were. I felt like there were games in which the defense in Buffalo helped Josh more in winning those games where I felt like Lamar had to do it more on his own because he didn't have that type of defense this year.

[Dan Katz]

That.

[Diana Rossini]

That was kind of how I viewed.

[Dan Katz]

Was.

[Diana Rossini]

Look, there were days I woke up and I thought it was Josh. There were days I woke up that was Lamar. I, like, stressed about it, but in the. In the end, I did vote for.

[Dan Katz]

For Lamar.

[PFT Commenter]

What you told me, I believe it was the Tuesday of Super bowl week. Lamar Jackson, 100% winning MVP. And you knew that I had a future on Lamar to win that MVP.

[Diana Rossini]

Correct?

[PFT Commenter]

You said 100%. Don't worry about it. It's already done. That was very mean.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. I purposely lied to you because I knew how much you had on that, and I just. I thought it would just be fun to play games with you there.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very fun.

[Diana Rossini]

How'd that turn out?

[PFT Commenter]

It was not ideal.

[Diana Rossini]

The excitement in your face when I told you that Lamar was winning. That whole thing was. You're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. You were shaky. You're, like, freaking out about it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, winning a big bet in New Orleans. It's going to be fun.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I was just excited to have fun that week.

[Diana Rossini]

How'd you guys do in New Orleans? Like, just on all your bets, Eagles won the Super.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty good. I made money the super bowl, which is. It's rare.

[Diana Rossini]

Did you go to the casino?

[Dan Katz]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Did not go to the Seattle you.

[Diana Rossini]

Guys killed at the casino in Vegas.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Remember you guys were posting photos of, like, all these. That was a little gross showing off.

[Dan Katz]

Do you like New Orleans as a Super bowl city?

[Diana Rossini]

That was unbelievable.

[Dan Katz]

It was very fun.

[Diana Rossini]

That was the. I've done 12 Super Bowls. That was the best Super Bowl I've ever been to. Yeah. Everything from. From just the logistics, the excitement. There was something to do everywhere. It didn't. You didn't need a plan. You could just, like, go anywhere. And it was fun. And I just thought this. The fact that the Eagles just. Just absolutely destroy the Chiefs. The celebration afterwards was one of the best post games I've ever covered to. In any sport.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Obviously, you saw Saquon going berserk. I've never seen him like that ever.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Like, even in some. He's had success, obviously, in his career and that it meant so much to him. And I think it was such a. Yes. I. I knew I was this guy, despite the fact that New York didn't think I was.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

You felt it.

[Dan Katz]

Vindication. Yeah. Question for you, personally. You left espn. I feel like the bet has paid off. How. How is it going? Like, that's a scary thing for a lot of people to leave espn because it is kind of, you know, the mothership and all that stuff, and you've been crushing it in your new role at the Athletic. In your podcast, do you look back and you're like, that was an awesome decision by me because it's. It takes balls. Like it was, you know, that's. To make that jump. It does.

[Diana Rossini]

Thank you. Yeah, it was hard. And you guys are, you know, you knew what was going on with me. On the mental side of it, it was hard to say, I love my job. I love espn. I was having success there, but I. I felt like I needed to go somewhere to challenge myself. And this job is so much harder than what I was doing on tv. It's not even close. Like, to have to write what you know and the written word compared to what you can say in tv. I just feel like it lasts forever. And once you collect that information and you put your name on it and it never goes away. 1. I'm proud of it, but. But it's definitely challenging. I'm getting exactly what I wanted, I can tell you that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're a columnist.

[Diana Rossini]

I am.

[Dan Katz]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's big. And your column comes out Saturday, which. Great job figuring that out. Like, good job putting out your column one day before everybody else.

[Diana Rossini]

That is so funny that you say that.

[Dan Katz]

Very smart. Like, very smart.

[Diana Rossini]

You think I planned it that way? I did not. Okay. So I was doing it on Sunday, and, you know, it wasn't really getting much traction because Adam and Ian, you know, they're so great at what they do, and they were putting out news. And I was putting out the same stuff. So it was like, why are people gonna read my column if they've already seen it on tv? So I was trying to one weekend just get ahead of stuff because I wanted to go to an actual game on Sunday. So I was like, you know, why don't we just publish this on Saturday? I just threw it out there thinking it wouldn't really result in anything. And it was the best decision I made because. Cause I got ahead of the news cycle. Whereas, like, Saturday can put out all the stuff about the games and obviously people want to hear it and read it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you. So it comes out Saturday. When you write it, do you write it like Friday night?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I write it like midnight sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

That sucks.

[Diana Rossini]

No, so. No, my Friday nights are horrendous. I remember you used to write a column on Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Monday morning.

[Diana Rossini]

Remember that stress you used to have writing that?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it takes a long time to write.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, Okay. I think there's a little difference in what you're writing about.

[Dan Katz]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, my shit was good.

[Diana Rossini]

No, no, yours is. It was good, but. But it wasn't. It wasn't journalism.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I broke some news, but yeah, that's.

[Diana Rossini]

That's fair, you know, so it's stressful when you're putting information out that you know is going to piss people off too. Right. Because that's the other part of this is when, when you report stuff, I think people, you know, people just take the information and run. The rest of my day is filled with taking calls from agents, players, PR people. Hey, I didn't like the tone of that. What do you mean by this? Even when I wr following reports about teams or a coach or a player, someone's always mad. So I publish Saturday morning at 10am I spend my whole day dealing with the memes of the world. Yeah, right.

[Dan Katz]

Right there. Someone's always mad. He's right there.

[Diana Rossini]

I can feel it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

What memes? Why are you so angry?

[Dan Katz]

Memes. Get out. Get out of here. Let's go. Let's.

[PFT Commenter]

Why are you angry?

[Dan Katz]

You're. You. You have a lot of. A lot of hate in your heart. Heart.

[PFT Commenter]

Let it out. Let's, let's. Oh, he's got a document ready to go on his phone.

[Hank]

Uhoh.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the group chat.

[Dan Katz]

The group chat.

[PFT Commenter]

He's going to ask questions.

[Dan Katz]

You passed off the from chat. The.

[Memes]

The text from Jack Mack said you did report the ultimatum.

[Diana Rossini]

No, I didn't. I never said the word ultimatum. She did report that you can write back here. Take a video of me. Ready? I didn't report that. Listen to Scoop City.

[Dan Katz]

Hi.

[Diana Rossini]

What's his name?

[Memes]

Jack Mack, inventor of Scoop City.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, he actually invented Scoop City. You stole the name from him.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, he was the one with the original.

[PFT Commenter]

With the TikTok.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm so sorry I took the name. Either way, the jets never made it an ultimatum and I never reported that. I'm sorry you took it that way. And who cares at this point?

[Dan Katz]

Oh, jets fans care. Jets fans care a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

So here's the thing. Here's the thing with memes is memes can. You can look up and see if she used the word ultimatum.

[Diana Rossini]

You can listen to the podcast and you can read my article and you can see what it says.

[Dan Katz]

Now, reading a headline and basing all your facts on that is actually the correct way to do it means, what do you have? What? Let's, let's. Let's get it. Let's get it. Here's my question.

[Diana Rossini]

Why are you guys on such a hunt to find out or discover if my reporting's wrong? It's never been inaccurate. Not one thing I've ever reported about the New York jets has been wrong.

[Memes]

Well, I think your reports. The problem is the aggregators take your report and the way you word your report make it seem like you're coming directly after the Jets.

[Dan Katz]

Feelings are hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

So your. Is your problem with the.

[Dan Katz]

With the.

[Diana Rossini]

Not really. So that's not. So we don't really have a beef. No.

[PFT Commenter]

She is Dove Kleinman also. That's her.

[Dan Katz]

That's her own football. Yeah. So. So what's your beef? Memes?

[Memes]

The ultimatum. That's pretty. That's my beef right now.

[Diana Rossini]

What else? Did the Madden stuff bother you?

[Memes]

The what stuff?

[Diana Rossini]

The Madden stuff.

[Memes]

No. Well, yes, because the Ravens also use Madden radio.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, okay, so you should have put that in context.

[Diana Rossini]

But I didn't criticize it. I didn't have an opinion about it. I just said here the fact you.

[Memes]

Had the report that got. Got it out there. They were like, hey, we have an 18 year old running the team, which is a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

But so again, your problem is not with her or her reporting. It's the fact that.

[Dan Katz]

The fact that she's reporting it.

[Memes]

There's 31 other teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's be even with it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, so you want dysfunction on it? On every other team?

[Memes]

You want me to go find that there's dysfunction everywhere?

[Diana Rossini]

Not as much as in New York. Look, I think, oh, my gosh, I broke your heart. I didn't mean it that way. Look, I think things are going to get better. Like, how about the fact that Woody Johnson came out and said I need to be a better owner? I thought that was awesome. That was self awareness. I don't think the article caused that. I think he's looking at his body of work going as an owner. This isn't good. This isn't good at all.

[Memes]

He got an F today. But if your reporting helps get Woody Johnson out, that's fine.

[Diana Rossini]

What else can I do?

[Memes]

If you're taking down the new leadership.

[Diana Rossini]

The head coach, I. I can't win with you. That's how I realized.

[Dan Katz]

No, he's gonna be mad at you. I think it's really just like the. Don't shoot the messenger. Shoot the message. He's just gonna shoot the messenger every time.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. I represent the stuff that bothers you, and I don't want to. You realize I love the Jets. Like, I grew up a Jets fan.

[Memes]

No, you. You hate the Jets.

[Dan Katz]

I don't.

[Memes]

I don't know what the jets ever did to you, but you hate the Jets.

[Dan Katz]

All right, so memes, do you have anything else besides the ultimatum that is bothering you right now? No.

[Memes]

We could be friends if you're reporting gets Woody Johnson out.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, okay. So there you go. You've got your mission.

[Diana Rossini]

No, I'm good there. I don't want to be friends. I just want to be cool. I feel like there's just so much tension between us, like because Max and I used to have a little tension because of our situation, but we've now worked.

[Memes]

That reporting could have been a lie.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all called into question.

[Dan Katz]

Wow. Now I think that reporting was incredible.

[Diana Rossini]

Wait, you are questioning my.

[Hank]

We don't have to talk about that report.

[Dan Katz]

That reporting is fine.

[Diana Rossini]

We don't need to bring that back up again. We are not going through this again. But I can tell you stand by. I will stand by that one for.

[Dan Katz]

Also stand by that reporting. That's a fact.

[PFT Commenter]

What if she just reports occasionally better stories about the Jets?

[Memes]

That could work.

[Dan Katz]

What if you guys win games?

[Diana Rossini]

It's a start.

[Dan Katz]

That could also work.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, if you go through a season where you fire a coach without like a plan in place to replace him, and then the guy that you used to replace him, his unit goes to, and then your quarterback has like the most drama filled year ever where he's talking about running for vice president. I feel like he didn't.

[Memes]

Oh, he didn't talk about that. That you talked about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, it was you.

[Memes]

You were the first person to bring that story.

[PFT Commenter]

I was the first person. True. But it was true.

[Diana Rossini]

Dan. I wrote some stuff about the Bears.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

How did, like, did you.

[Dan Katz]

They're a dumpster fire.

[Diana Rossini]

Did you call me like, no, they're dumpster fire.

[Dan Katz]

No, it's usually I actually appreciate reporters because they bring to light things that should be brought to light. So it's like when there's a problem, I want it reported so that they can be embarrassed by that problem.

[Diana Rossini]

So that's what I thought fans wanted as well. I thought that type of reporting and journalism was something that was missing because there's a lot of outlets that are doing that type of reporting. But I found in New York, the fans actually don't want to know. They don't want.

[Nick Sirianni]

It's good.

[Diana Rossini]

Just say it's awesome.

[Dan Katz]

Like memes. You would rather like the, the fact that the Brick Johnson playing Madden as the shadow gm, that's a good story to come out because then the jets might look in the mirror and be like, oh, this is stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

We should stop doing this.

[Dan Katz]

If they don't. If Diana doesn't report that, they just can keep doing that and no one will ever know.

[Memes]

But did you hear what I said that the Ravens do that and they're.

[Diana Rossini]

One of the best organizations except the. The Raid and Maddening Madden. The Madden ratings are looked at by the adult general manager, not. Not the child, the owner.

[Dan Katz]

A very, very important distinction which we stand by.

[PFT Commenter]

Brick. Yeah, Brick, probably Brick is our guy.

[Diana Rossini]

I hope Brick turns out to be an awesome owner. You know, we'll. We'll see. He's getting his feet wet.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So what are, what are some storylines that you're working on this week? Besides Miles Garrett means you're good. Matt Stafford.

[Diana Rossini]

Well, the receiver market. Right. The whole Bengals situation, like, how are they going to do these guys?

[PFT Commenter]

So they're going to. They're going to. If they. I have a prediction. This is bold, but if they franchise tag T. Higgins, I think maybe the hamstring injury might crop up once or twice next season.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, he doesn't want to be tagged. Like they came out publicly and said. What I've been hearing is that they do want to work on a long term deal. But I can tell you teams that are interested in T are operating like, like he's not leaving Cincinnati. They. They. Most elite thinks he's going to get tagged in the end, as, as you said. But I don't think that's going to be the good play. But I just have a hard time, like, doing the math of how this can all work, of. Of how they can bring all these guys back when they. They're claiming it's going to be done soon, too. And look, if, if they do, that's awesome. But. So I'm keeping an eye on that one. And then just Kansas City, you know, like, we saw what the Eagles did to them. They got to get better on the offensive line. They're trying to get Trey Smith done. I think he was going to hit free agency, too, but then they saw what would happen to Patrick in the game and they're like, like, we probably need to bring him back. Right. So I just. I, I like this idea that the Chiefs are going to revamp here and try to fix it the way they did after Tampa, because it looked almost identical.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

You know, I felt that same panic. I think we saw it in Patrick right after the second play was like, oh, this. This is not the normal chill. Mahomes with some time, he sees the problem. You know, Jalen Carter.

[Dan Katz]

Right. So is there a team that you talk to and you're impressed and being like, maybe they haven't taken that step and been a playoff team or like a Super bowl contender, but you're like, they're doing things the correct way and it's coming.

[Diana Rossini]

And it's important too, because. To differentiate. Because I think a lot of teams talk about what they want to do, and there's those that are actually doing. I think the Denver Broncos goes. Are on their way.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, right.

[Diana Rossini]

You know, I think Sean Payton's got one of the best, like, grips on a team. He's so good at knowing what's best for them. He's hard. Like, you go to their practices, they're brutal to watch. He. He's a little bit like Andy, where they, you know, they just go hard. All. All suburb. But just the fact that he hit on Bo Nix and, And they're just going to continue to build around him and they've got him on a young rookie deal and they've. They've got a little swag to them. Like, they want to compete. They want to play the Chiefs. So I. That they're. They're a team. And New England right now, I'm probably most excited to see what they're going to do. This is a gigantic offseason for the New England Patriots for the future. Like, I don't. I don't think they're going to be that great next year. Like, I think they'll probably Win seven, eight games. Well, actually, that's probably good considering where they came from, but. Or where they were last year. But I think it's the next. It's 26, right where. I think that's. That's where it's going to. They're going to be. They're going to be contenders. They're going to be guys that are going after giving Josh Allen a problem.

[Dan Katz]

What are you hearing about the draft in terms of their teams that are. You expect to be aggressive, possibly moving around, possibly trading up? It's a weird draft because it doesn't. It doesn't feel like teams are totally sold on both quarterbacks, but we know that both quarterbacks are going to get drafted really high because that's just how it goes. But how is. How are teams approaching it?

[Diana Rossini]

I know it's. That's. It's funny. It's that idea of, like, you don't go to the grocery store hungry. Right?

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Nick Sirianni]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

I always.

[PFT Commenter]

Every single time, it's the worst. Why else are you going to the grocery store?

[Dan Katz]

And then I start eating when I'm at the grocery store.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I need seven types of Oreos.

[Diana Rossini]

I was gonna say, why do you always crave weird stuff when you go to the grocery store?

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm like, I'm eating Twizzlers, but I really want to. I want eggnog. I think it's like, that makes no sense, you know?

[Dan Katz]

Well, that might be because you're pregnant. Not right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait.

[Dan Katz]

But you were. Do crave.

[Diana Rossini]

See Dan last night, he goes. He. Right. By the way, what an observation by you.

[Dan Katz]

I got the eye for that because.

[Diana Rossini]

I walked up to the table drinking water, which I guess in Indy nobody's drinking water. And I'm definitely never drinking water. But I was like, I need. I need to take a break. I've been going so hard from New Orleans to now. I need to just. I need one hour. And I just happened to see you, and I had that water and you gave me that look. I was like, you looked in my soul like, you went for three.

[Dan Katz]

There is context because we have discussed. Discuss the difference between two and three and. And how much it changes everything.

[Diana Rossini]

So I was like, I can't do it physically, mentally. My husband is the happiest I have ever seen him right now. Because of the Eagles winning. Yeah, that. I. I don't want to rock the boat. I don't want to shake things up in my house because, like, even good vibes, like, you guys know how it is. Like, I'm on the road. I got the two little guys back at home. Kev hasn't even texted me one thing since I've been here. No, actually, he did. Did. He asked me about something with Jalen Carter. Just a stupid football question, but no, like, he's just.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, he just uses you as like anything.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh. Constantly. But in terms of, like, the happiness, the joy in our home right now is better than it has ever been. It wasn't like this after we got married. Not after Mikey, not after Joey. Like, it, it is so good. And I, I, we gotta squeeze this thing out, birds. Well, when I, every time I see Howie, I just, like, hug him. Like, you saved my marriage. Like, things were so rough right there, especially when they, you know, when I wasn't too sure what they were going to be.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. And Max had Sirianni in the hot seat.

[Diana Rossini]

Max had Syria. I, I was doing the same thing because there were, there were people around the league looking at it the way I think the fans were looking at it, which is with all of this talent and all the pieces that Howie has put to assemble this, this championship team, the coach can't be the reason this doesn't happen.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

You know, and so credit to Sirianni for, I think, growing in all of this. And he even sounds like he's, he's grown from it. He was tremendous. I, he talked to me right after they won right on the field. And he was so reflective of just owning that it hasn't been perfect. And I love that about him. I'm like, yeah, like, I wasn't good. I was too emotional.

[Dan Katz]

Wait, so we went on a tangent back to the question. Who's going to be aggressive?

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, I think the Giants are going to try to get up to trade out with the Titans. I think they're going to be aggressive in this. They're, you know, they're obviously also keeping their eye on Stafford, and Tennessee is open for business. Like, I think the approach that they are going to have headed into this is we need to get some picks. We need to continue to build because they were, they were the worst team in football last year after having a free agency, spending, you know, they went crazy bringing in players, but they didn't really find any pillars. You know, they didn't find any blocks that they're going to use to continue to get better in the future. So that's really where I'm keeping my eye on. And I think the Raiders are going to be making moves. I have my eye on them outside the Stafford thing. As I mentioned before, Tom Brady has a lot of influence on what's going on there, and he wants to shake it up there. They want to do it that way. So we'll see what happens. Max Crosby is obviously a player that tons of teams are interested in if he'd be made available. But I think Brady's smart enough to know you. You don't. You don't move a guy like Max Crosby.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's up with his contract? Isn't it non guaranteed? He's got two years left, no guaranteed money.

[Diana Rossini]

They keep saying that they're going to be extending him or at least working on it. But until you have a deal, right? It's like, sir, until you got a deal. You know, deal.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

I think his situation is different than like Miles Gary, where my. Look, Miles wants to get paid. Of course he's. He wants to be paid the highest in that position, but he really wants to win. Like, he, he's got this attitude like, it's not happening here in Cleveland. Like, I don't plan. And I think we could all agree that the plan's not great. Right. I don't even know what they're going to do in terms of quarterback here. I mean, I think they're going to wind up drafting one probably. That's definitely on the table for them. They poked around on the Stafford stuff a little, but they're not as aggressive as the Giants and the Raiders at this point. But I, I think for Max, he, he, he just wants to win too. Like, but, but he's. He's going to get paid.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you do you miss at all the, the Sunday morning routine of going, you know, freezing water? Yeah, yeah, that, that was clip. Love that. When you were like, look how cold it is at Foxboro. You turn the water upside down and it was, it was cold water that you didn't point out that it was cold water. You were just like, oh, it's still liquid, but it was really cold.

[Diana Rossini]

I know it doesn't shock you guys cuz you know me for so long, but I, My dad said this to me once. He's like, you're the smartest dumb person I know. Like, I have moments where I think.

[Dan Katz]

That'S a good place to be.

[PFT Commenter]

That's really good, actually.

[Diana Rossini]

Like that you were the poster child.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it's a great spot.

[Diana Rossini]

You have some brilliant, like just, you're a talented human being and you say things. But I've heard you say things where I'm like, yeah, Dan is dumb.

[Dan Katz]

Well, because you never Know, you can keep people on their toes. Like, we did a Pope watch on Monday, and people were like, dude, you just said a bunch of, like, St. Louis Cardinals prospects. He's like, I did that on purpose. But I also could have made a mistake. Kind of never know.

[Diana Rossini]

There's a good way to keep people, you know, ready for. Or unready for. For. For what? For what you got.

[Dan Katz]

So, yeah, a team we haven't talked about in a while. I feel like the Cowboys was the league shocked when they went with Brian Schadenheimer in that entire coaching search. Cause it didn't feel like they did a coaching search.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I'd heard they did a little bit. I'd heard that they did some backdoor stuff. They weren't sure they were really going to move on from Mike. So let's start there. Right. So there was obviously not some big plan. Right. Because most of these teams know, all right, we're going to. We're firing this guy. Let's start putting the feelers out. Let's. Let's have a. Let's meet and think about what it is that we're looking for in this next head coach. But I think for Dallas. Dallas, they weren't sure how that was going to go with Mike. I think they thought he'd stay. I thought that they'd be able to knock out a contract. They obviously were not able to do that after. After having conversations with him. And at the time, Belichick was. Was already kind of doing the North Carolina thing, and I'd heard that Dallas had some feelers out to him. So if that's their search, I mean, they probably could have been better. Probably could have gotten more opportunities with other coaches if they made the call earlier. Right. So you could be critical of that.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, it felt clunky.

[Diana Rossini]

I. Very clunky. And I. And I can tell you, though, from the perspective of the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schottenheimer had to be a piece of it. Whether that meant head coach, OC they were not parting ways of Brian Schottenheimer. So, yeah. Surprised that he's the head coach, but not a surprise. Knowing that that was part of the formula for what they wanted in next.

[Dan Katz]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They also had a phone call to Deion Sanders. Yeah, right. You talked. Jerry Jones talked to him.

[Dan Katz]

Film.

[Diana Rossini]

I remember. So that that story came out, and, you know, you. You make. You as a reporter, you start making calls like, is this real? Like, this is crazy. And everyone that I trust was like, this. This is not real. This is not. Like, I'm like, I'm gonna go hard on this. If I go hard. You know, the chance of Dion tweeting about are probably good. Like, if I'm wrong on it. So I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna go for it. And obviously panned out to just be light flirting. Maybe not even like a call. Like, how are. How are the kids?

[PFT Commenter]

He batted his eyes at Dion.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

And ultimately.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. All right, I had one last question. It's a Roback question. RHOB.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. So we had Chef on. On Friday's show. I'm going to ask you a similar question. The NFL can't do a Super bowl abroad. Can you make sure that doesn't happen?

[Diana Rossini]

Why not? Why don't you want to suck?

[Dan Katz]

It's arg. Don't do that.

[Diana Rossini]

I mean, look, coming off New Orleans, it's hard to imagine, like, the, the travel, like, if you took the logistics out of it.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Into it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no.

[Dan Katz]

It's our game.

[PFT Commenter]

It's America's game.

[Dan Katz]

You can't give the game to another country.

[PFT Commenter]

The food in London sucks.

[Diana Rossini]

It doesn't have to.

[PFT Commenter]

The teeth are bad. You're going to have media members just complaining all week.

[Dan Katz]

Teeth are bad.

[Diana Rossini]

You think the teeth would affect the.

[Dan Katz]

Your teeth are bad in London.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad teeth.

[Diana Rossini]

Okay. What if it was in Italy and we got to eat really well?

[Dan Katz]

Too many and what are the teeth like?

[Diana Rossini]

Are you calling Italians perverts?

[PFT Commenter]

I just. I don't think that the intellectual NFL should do an overseas game for the Super Bowl.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm open to it.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

I don't like, I, I like.

[Dan Katz]

We can't. We can't rely on.

[Diana Rossini]

You can't depend on me to say.

[Dan Katz]

Memes are starting to. I see what you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad, bad opinion that you have as.

[Diana Rossini]

Somebody who is complaining about the travel to every Super Bowl. You're right. Like, taking a ten hour flight for. For that week would be miserable.

[PFT Commenter]

Imagine being stuck next to Max on the flight over to London.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Not.

[Diana Rossini]

Not great.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Literally talking about that. He'd gas you out.

[PFT Commenter]

I do have a complaint.

[Diana Rossini]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

It seems that you've turned your back on Washington, D.C. what? You used to be. You used to dabble in D.C. homerism.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm all. I, I tweet every time they win. Like, I can't imagine what it's like in Washington. Holy crap. Jaden's amazing. Like, Dan Quinn, coach of the year. Like, what are you talking about?

[PFT Commenter]

Used to gas up the Capitals occasionally. Talk about the other day.

[Diana Rossini]

How is he still playing?

[Dan Katz]

It's crazy.

[Diana Rossini]

You want to talk about us being old? Like, he is old and he's out here chasing. Look, I think what. This. It's almost unbelievable. I think that's what it is. It's. It's been so good, and if it appears from ownership down and the way they're building it that it's almost hard to fathom that it's real, you know? So it's not that I don't want to jump on it. It's just.

[Dan Katz]

Just.

[Diana Rossini]

I need. I need one more year to be like, okay, they're really good. This. This is great. Because my hopes now are high. My hopes are high for the Bears if. If they can improve Caleb, get him an offensive line, get a couple weapons on defense. I. I think it's a lot of.

[Dan Katz]

Things you just said.

[Diana Rossini]

It's a lot. But Ben Johnson seems like he's the guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I think so. I think he is in this.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, man. All right. Well, Diana, thank you, as always. You're the best. It's great having you on full Italian podcast with you and Nick Sierra so much big time.

[Diana Rossini]

You need to bring food.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why I need that house. I get those numbers up on Scoop City. I think you need rebrand to the Diana Rossini podcast featuring Diana Rossini.

[Diana Rossini]

You think that's how you came in?

[Dan Katz]

Memes called it. Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

The Diana Racini podcast.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

So you don't like Scoop City?

[Dan Katz]

No, I like Scoop City. He stole from Jack Mac, but I like Scoop City. Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

I told you how people were asking me in football if it was a podcast about ice cream.

[Dan Katz]

That would be cool.

[PFT Commenter]

I would listen to.

[Dan Katz]

You know what? I'll break my boycott and I'll come on. If we only talk about ice cream.

[Diana Rossini]

Perfect.

[Dan Katz]

That's it.

[Diana Rossini]

No questions about nothing else.

[Dan Katz]

Just ice CRE talk.

[Diana Rossini]

Have all the Bears fans tune in thinking that they're going to give the hot takes about Chicago.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Even call it like the Sunday Mailbag, but it's spelled S U n D A E. Oh, that's smart.

[Dan Katz]

I'll take my shirt off and eat somebody. Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Another good idea. So I'll take it. I'll take it and run with it. So thank you.

[Dan Katz]

All right. Thank you so much, Diana.

[Diana Rossini]

Should I have. Should I have a third?

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, yeah. I. It's a lot, but it's also going to be awesome when they're all a Little older.

[Diana Rossini]

Let's just go for two. Back to back. Super Bowl.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm.

[Dan Katz]

And you'll have. Then you'll have the third after you.

[Diana Rossini]

Win a second Super Bowl.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

Super bowl, baby.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, exactly. All right. Thanks, man.

[Diana Rossini]

Thanks, guys.

[Dan Katz]

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[Max]

Brutal.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. Why?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Dan Katz]

Because he had to go up and.

[PFT Commenter]

Give a speech and he threw his gum at her.

[Dan Katz]

He was. He had gum in his mouth and he tossed it back at her. This is some high level Oscar stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

I would never do.

[Max]

Will Smith has been topped.

[Dan Katz]

Yes. What? Just search Adrian Brody. What are you doing? Best Picture.

[Hank]

I don't know, Shane.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, that's weird. Max searched Best picture and it was just a highlight of Cooper De Jean's pick six.

[Hank]

No.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, it was Devonte Smith. Sorry. All right, thank you to Nick Sirianni and Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers. We got to get it. Someone's got to get it. It's been a while.

[Hank]

I think memes are gonna get it today.

[Dan Katz]

Pug, are you a little upset at yourself because someone pointed out that if you had continued your working backwards from 99, you would have gotten on Friday at 93. Yeah, I would have kept getting it if I kept going down from 98, but I couldn't forgive myself if 99 did show up and I went like 94 or something. Yeah.

[Memes]

So I just got to stick with it.

[Dan Katz]

Brutal. Okay, say the numbers again.

[PFT Commenter]

3, 6, 27.

[Dan Katz]

I'll go 77 for Luca. 99, Pug, 24.

[PFT Commenter]

Luca might be the chins of this.

[Hank]

2111 memes.

[Dan Katz]

You ever gotten this? Nope. Are you ever gonna get it?

[Hank]

I think meme's gonna get it today.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you pick three?

[Hank]

Here comes three means.

[Memes]

That was so sick.

[Hank]

Memes birthday, by the way.

[Dan Katz]

30. Happy birthday me.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday me.

[Dan Katz]

Wait, today's your birthday?

[Memes]

Well, not today.

[PFT Commenter]

Today, people.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Which is today.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, so I didn't miss your birthday? I Got all day to. Which is today throw gifts at you.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. I got your present.

[Memes]

Did you?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Cool.

[PFT Commenter]

It's flight simulator. It's getting delivered to the office.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, you. 32.

[Hank]

There's a three in there. Memes.

[Dan Katz]

You know what? For memes birthday. Let's run it again. This count.

[Nick Sirianni]

Three.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go.

[Dan Katz]

Come on.

[Hank]

11.

[Max]

I'll go 30.

[Memes]

Glad that wasn't 33, cuz that was the other one. 33.

[Dan Katz]

I'll go 33. Memes.

[Memes]

Damn it.

[Max]

It's your birthday, memes. 30th.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll go 5.

[Dan Katz]

99.

[Nick Sirianni]

Po 77.

[Memes]

Jack pick 77.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, you dick. Jack. He did 77?

[Memes]

Yeah, 77.

[Dan Katz]

Right after I did what it was. He didn't even know.

[Hank]

He doesn't have headphones.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, he didn't even know. What was your number last time, Jack? Number?

[Hank]

Last time?

[Nick Sirianni]

24.

[Dan Katz]

All right, I'll go 24.

[Hank]

Wait, so. So you're out on 33.

[Dan Katz]

I'm out on 33.

[Hank]

I'll take 33.

[Dan Katz]

All right, everyone say their number. 5, 30.

[Hank]

11.

[Dan Katz]

3, 2, 8. White's max. 99. Put 24.

[Nick Sirianni]

77.

[Dan Katz]

People are going to think from the time timestamps that someone got it. Let's go. Yes. Memes are the only thing memes had over you. You've now erased Jaden on his birthday. Happy birthday.

[Max]

I thought you were gonna say I got some view.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? You know what?

[Dan Katz]

I. I got.

[PFT Commenter]

I got Memes a present. It's the number five Memes. I'd like you to have this.

[Memes]

I'd like you to go.

[Dan Katz]

He said he meme said I'm taller than him, so technically I have everything over him.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. That's good. Memes. I. I want to award this five to you.

[Memes]

Not gonna get angry.

[Dan Katz]

Wow. Am I.

[PFT Commenter]

Am I allowed to do that? Can I give Memes mine?

[Max]

No, you're not.

[Dan Katz]

But it's a nice.

[Max]

Jess.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah. You can't do it.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I wanted to.

[Dan Katz]

I wish. Wait, hold on.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm literally trying to do that right now.

[Dan Katz]

Hold on. Let me pull up the bottom bylaws.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, real quick, because I. As it stands, this five that I just picked for myself, I would rather memes have it. I want to give that five to Memes. I want Memes to get his first hit.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. All right, I'm finding it. Under section 17, rule number 84, it says that no lottery ball participant can give their winning ball to anyone else, even if it's their birthday, even if it's Memes birthday is actually what it says.

[Hank]

Except for that one.

[Dan Katz]

Well, no, that wasn't. That was different. That wasn't it Before. That was before the selection.

[Memes]

Yeah, Some stupid fucking rule.

[Dan Katz]

But now, Memes, you got no. You got nothing. You got nothing.

[Memes]

Yeah, I got nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday, Memes.

[Dan Katz]

Memes, you know what? One more just for you. You're the only one who can say the number.

[Memes]

It's gotta be three.

[Dan Katz]

Okay. Yeah, it does, doesn't it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, memes. Got to be three. So, dude, are you sure?

[Memes]

It has to be.

[Dan Katz]

Are you sure, Memes? I don't think it's going to be three. You should pick another number right now. No, it's going to be three. You should pick another number right now. It's not going to be three.

[PFT Commenter]

I believe he's never gotten this.

[Max]

Come on, Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so easy.

[Max]

You got this.

[Dan Katz]

Oh, six. You're so close. Damn.

[Memes]

Didn't Hank pick that before?

[Dan Katz]

I did.

[Max]

I pick six.

[Dan Katz]

Memes, I told you to pick a different number. You want to do one more, Memes? All right, one more Meme.

[Memes]

Yeah, we'll keep going.

[Max]

Memes, there's an obvious.

[Dan Katz]

Never gonna get it.

[Memes]

There's an obvious number. Is it three?

[Hank]

No, seven.

[Memes]

Five, six, seven. But I'm gonna pick seven, and then three's gonna pop.

[Dan Katz]

No, you got it. Memes, pick your number.

[PFT Commenter]

Seven.

[Dan Katz]

Okay.

[Hank]

I hope it's three so bad.

[Dan Katz]

I want it to be three so bad. Nothing would be better. Ah, 81. Not even close. Not even close.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes, you're going to get this.

[Dan Katz]

No, he's not. He's never going to get it. Happy birthday, though. Happy birthday, tard.

[Memes]

Knox was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys. Love you, Memes.

[Dan Katz]

Yeah, off.