Eagles Lane Johnson, Jameis Winston, Day 3 In New Orleans And Listener FAQ’s

Summary

Podcast Summary: Pardon My Take Episode Title: Eagles Lane Johnson, Jameis Winston, Day 3 In New Orleans And Listener FAQ’s
Release Date: February 5, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of "Pardon My Take," hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter delve into insightful conversations with NFL stars Lane Johnson and Jameis Winston. Set against the backdrop of Super Bowl week in New Orleans, the episode also features engaging discussions on team strategies, trade rumors, and answers to listener questions.

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Interviews

1. Lane Johnson: Future Hall of Famer

Super Bowl Appearances and Achievements

Lane Johnson joins the show ahead of his third Super Bowl appearance with the Philadelphia Eagles. Highlighting his illustrious career, Big Cat notes:

"[44:18] Big Cat: On Sunday, Lane Johnson will become only the third offensive tackle in NFL history to make six Pro Bowls, two first team all-pros, and start in three Super Bowls."

Impact on Team Performance

PFT Commenter emphasizes Lane's significant impact on the Eagles' success:

"[54:50] Big Cat: When you're not on the field, the Eagles are 15 and 23. When you're on the field, they're 102 and 55. That's insane."
"[54:57] PFT Commenter: Yeah, that's insane. It's like the defense turns into a steel wall when he's playing."

Leadership and Team Dynamics

Lane discusses his role in fostering team resilience and unity:

"[55:23] Chris: But no, man, we talked about it, but then like we had the year before AJ got hurt in that game. We had to go play Tampa and couldn't play. So it's like we wanted the record."
"[56:20] Big Cat: Yeah. Are you feeling healthy? Because I remember last time in 2022, when we came visit you Super Bowl week, you had, like, six different injuries that should have sidelined anyone else."
"[57:06] PFT Commenter: What's his vibe there, Man? I love Pittsburgh, you know, because I admire coach Mike Tomlin so much. You know, the first Super Bowl ring that I ever held in my hand was a 2009 Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl ring from Bruce Arians."

2. Jameis Winston: Overcoming Challenges and Looking Forward

Season Overview and Personal Resilience

Jameis Winston reflects on a challenging season marked by injuries and team dynamics:

"[85:56] Big Cat: So you would never have known that you, you'd already had torn your groin if you didn't tear the other part of your groin?"
"[86:00] Chris: How much money they got left."
"[89:16] Max: And that day wasn't a good day. And that was kind of like a precursor to the season, you know what I'm saying?"

Training and Performance Enhancement

Winston shares insights into his training regimen and efforts to improve his game:

"[94:03] Big Cat: So you gotta. So that's something we gotta still check off the list."
"[96:00] Max: But I don't wanna do this just to be able to have y'all on the show and say, hey, you know, I had, you know, Big Cat and PFT on, like, what y'all think about that? You know what I'm saying?"
"[97:05] Big Cat: Have you thought about like maybe doing a spring training? I know that you're. That kind of conflicts with, you know, where you're going to sign, but I'd love to see you back on our baseball."

Future Aspirations and Personal Growth

Winston discusses his aspirations beyond his current NFL career, emphasizing personal growth and family:

"[100:08] Max: Because what I do from what I do from an NFL perspective, from a father perspective, from a husband perspective, is small to the grand scheme of things, of the impact that I can have on lives everywhere across this entire world."
"[100:43] Chris: So you push the ball down the field, you're making the throws, and that's always what's so fun when you get in."

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Super Bowl Week and Team Discussions

Super Bowl 59: Anticipation and Predictions

The hosts engage in lively discussions about the upcoming Super Bowl, analyzing team strengths and potential outcomes:

"[33:47] Max: Patrick Mahomes does something that we haven't really witnessed be done from another quarterback this early on in their career."
"[34:17] Big Cat: We keep rolling."
"[43:00] Max: But no, he did it on me."

Trade Rumors and Team Strategies

Discussions around potential trades, including the high-profile trade request by Miles Garrett, highlight the strategic maneuvering within the NFL:

"[09:51] Big Cat: And we put. And we put on the back of helmets. And now racism's dead."
"[12:41] Chris: So."
"[14:52] Big Cat: Yeah. That was Cleo Mack was two first-round picks."

NFL Conspiracies and League Developments

The hosts delve into various conspiracy theories and league changes, including references to a potential flag football league:

"[05:54] Big Cat: So he said they're, they're working on it. And then Florio reported that they're not just working on it. It's like happening. It's already going to a league where they hit harder."
"[16:19] Big Cat: Yes, he just doesn't want to reply."

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Listener FAQs

Engaging Questions and Humorous Answers

The segment features a mix of serious and humorous questions from listeners, providing entertaining and insightful answers:

Q1: "Who would you set free if captured by pirates: Nick Foles, Jason Kelsey, or Big Dom?"
A1:

Big Cat: "Jason Kelsey's a pirate. He was born to be a pirate. He would probably enjoy being a pirate."
PFT Commenter: "Nick Foles would stand a better chance going toe-to-toe with pirates than Big Dom."
Memes: "I think Nick Foles would beat the pirates."
Hank: "If you don't answer them, they all die."

Q2: "How much do you think Max is going to give everyone if the Eagles win the Super Bowl?"
A2:

Big Cat: "I actually don't think he's going to be thinking about us that much."
PFT Commenter: "There's nothing that we can say to hurt him in that moment."
Memes: "He's gonna be the happiest he's ever been."

Q3: "Do you think the nuke sniffers alarms go off when Max farts?"
A3:

Big Cat: "I would rather prefer the nuke sniffer to be out there."
Memes: "Do you think the nuke sniffers would detect Max's farts?"
PFT Commenter: "That's a good question."

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Closing Remarks

The episode wraps up with the hosts expressing their excitement for the Super Bowl, reflecting on the insightful interviews, and maintaining their signature humor throughout the discussions.

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Notable Quotes

• "[44:18] Big Cat: On Sunday, Lane Johnson will become only the third offensive tackle in NFL history to make six Pro Bowls, two first team all-pros, and start in three Super Bowls."

• "[54:50] Big Cat: When you're not on the field, the Eagles are 15 and 23. When you're on the field, they're 102 and 55. That's insane."

• "[100:08] Max: Because what I do from what I do from an NFL perspective, from a father perspective, from a husband perspective, is small to the grand scheme of things, of the impact that I can have on lives everywhere across this entire world."

• "[141:02] Max: I think he's definitely should have stood on business."

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Conclusion

This episode of "Pardon My Take" offers a blend of in-depth interviews with NFL stars, strategic discussions on the Super Bowl, and humorous listener interactions. Big Cat and PFT Commenter successfully navigate through sports analysis and personal stories, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and fans alike.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

On today's part of my take, we have two awesome interviews. We got Lane Johnson.

[PFT Commenter]

For who?

[Big Cat]

For the people. Lane Johnson, who's going to be playing in the super bowl on Sunday. We went and visited with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Friend of the program, friend of the.

[Big Cat]

Program, future hall of Famer. Also special in that, in that Lane Johnson interview, Max's speech from Monday night from our dinner. Then we have James Winston, one of our favorites, who also stopped by. Great interview with him. We are going to talk a little more. Super bowl week, hot seat, cool throne FAQs. It's Super bowl week, baby, and it's brought to you by DraftKings. Have you played pick six from DraftKings? What are you waiting for? You better get on it. It's Super Bowl 59, the last chance to play NFL pick six this season. And as the official daily fantasy sports Partner of the NFL DraftKings, does fantasy sports like no one else play for better payouts on Pick Six? It's super easy to get started. Download the DraftKings Pick Six app, select two or more players and choose if they'll have more or less of a stat, like which QB will throw for more than two TDs, or which running back will rush for less than 100 yards or which linebacker will have more than one sack. It's just that easy. Pick Six is available in most states, including Missouri, California, Texas, Georgia and more. And DraftKings is making it even sweeter for first timers. New Pick 6 customers play $5 to get $59 in Picks 6 credits. There's no tomorrow. It's the last chance to jump in now to the new, most fun way to play fantasy sports this season. Download the DraftKings Pick Six app. Use code Take that's Code Take for new customers to play $5, get $59 and pick six credits only on DraftKings pick six. The crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-G GAMBLER Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut.

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[Max]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

On Monday night and what a night it was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Really the only thing that came of note from it, I think was there was a couple troll questions. Who would do that? Who would do a troll question? Disgusting. To Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. The Kelsey one, I think he was actually pissed. Did you see it?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I saw a couple questions. There was one reporter that asked him like back to back Taylor Swift questions. He was like, back to back. That's nuts. That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

He or someone said to him, what do you love more Taylor Swift or fan him? 15 yard roughing, the passer penalties. And he just was not happy about.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good question. That's fair.

[Big Cat]

And then someone asked Patrick Mahomes who his favorite ref was.

[PFT Commenter]

That's also good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And he said he's going to check and find out with the guys.

[PFT Commenter]

The NFL released, I think at the refs, the NFL Ref Association, I'm pretty sure they have like a union, they released a statement saying they, they take an enormous amount of umbrage at all the accusations that they've been favoring the Chiefs.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Roger Goodell said it as well. He's like, it's crazy. These conspiracy theories are nuts. Also we found out from Roger Goodell that we might get a flag football league soon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So he said they're, they're working on it. And then Florio reported that they're not just working on it. It's like happening. It's already going to league where they hit harder. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It blitzed the league.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What you should have said there, Hank, is flag football league. We already have that. It's called the NFL.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I listen, I, I'm not, I, I've always, I got a big head.

[Hank]

You don't realize that they're going to event like this is a long game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's true. This is what they're going to do.

[Hank]

You like flag football? They're going to be like, well, here's.

[Big Cat]

All I'll say is that if they do football, if they do it correctly, it would be like a perfect like I want to say may like just do like a three day tournament with all the players.

[PFT Commenter]

I would watch that for flag football. Yeah, yeah, I'd watch that.

[Big Cat]

If it was NFL players playing, I would watch that.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I like where Hank's head's at though. Maybe instead of a league where they hit harder, a league where everyone has weapons. Like you actually have a baseball bat as a linebacker.

[Big Cat]

They are, imagine if they do actual flag football league and they figure out a way to do, like, a roughing the passer from homes because they took his flag too hard. Yeah, it's max week.

[PFT Commenter]

Max week.

[Big Cat]

It's max week. Bird week.

[PFT Commenter]

My body is probably two thirds gumbo.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just swollen. We're feeling good. Yeah, we're exper. We're. We're sitting in New Orleans right now. What could be better than this?

[Big Cat]

The air was thick today. Just could drink the air. Feels good. Max and Hank, you guys were out on Bourbon street last night. How was that?

[Hank]

Fun.

[Big Cat]

Fun.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I love this place.

[Big Cat]

You're just locked in.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to win a Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all I'm thinking. So locked in.

[Memes]

He's.

[Big Cat]

He's basically doing the marshawn for us now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm just fine.

[Memes]

No, I said. I said I had fun on Bourbon street, but it's Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Other big story from Goodell's press conferences. We are. We have done it, boys.

[PFT Commenter]

We did it. Congratulations.

[Big Cat]

Racism.

[Chris]

No more.

[Big Cat]

End racism in the end zone.

[PFT Commenter]

It only took four years.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what's crazy. It's like, it should accomplish how. Since the end of the Civil War. What was that? 18. When that. 1865-65. 1865. Until 2021, we didn't have end racism painted in end zones. And then 2021, we decided, let's do something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's fix this. And we. We painted that shit in end zones.

[Big Cat]

And we did it, and we put.

[PFT Commenter]

It on the backs of helmets. And now racism's dead.

[Big Cat]

Done. Sea of racism. Now I think it's going to say.

[PFT Commenter]

It takes all of us to do what?

[Big Cat]

Anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

To continue to not be racist, to.

[Big Cat]

Continue to ignore all the freak events that are happening that Hank is not ignoring.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Takes all of us.

[PFT Commenter]

One of them says, like, you're the.

[Hank]

One sending them to me now. That's all you do all day. Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that another one?

[Big Cat]

Choose love is also gone.

[PFT Commenter]

Choose love is gone.

[Big Cat]

We're choosing hate.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I meant. But what about calling a timeout to hate? Oh, we're calling time out to hate now.

[Big Cat]

Well, when you call time out to hate, you're basically timing out and then being like, let's hate.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So that you can get better at hating when you get back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Time out to hate.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what Hank does.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Time out to hate would be great if it was. If they did that actually in the game where the announcers could just Be like, everything. This is.

[Max]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Time back in. All right. And we're back. And it's 14, 13. Great game being played.

[PFT Commenter]

My guys are a little bit winded up. We need a. We need to call a timeout. They're gonna go out there and they're gonna be really nasty.

[Big Cat]

The big news, though, the NFL news, is Miles Garrett has requested a trade. So Cleveland Browns fans. Sucks for them. They tried to do a protest. Two people showed up at the stadium, which I actually say, kudos to Cleveland Browns fans because you protesting a guy asking to be traded in the middle of February. Like, good job, Cleveland Browns fan. You're not going to just be like, oh. Because you know what would happen if a thousand people show up? Then it becomes like a viral meme of, look how stupid Browns fans are. So I am. I defend Browns fans in. This is like, don't show up to that. It sucks. I feel bad for Browns fans, but also Miles Garrett. He does probably have a few good years left, and he wants to win a Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say he's probably in his prime right now.

[Big Cat]

He's 29.

[PFT Commenter]

He's still really fucking good.

[Big Cat]

I saw someone did a stat of like, Aaron Donald. I can't remember who else was on it. Khalil Mack. And it was like, after 20, 29, 30, like, you might get, like, one or two really good years, but they will tail off.

[PFT Commenter]

But the crazy. He had, what, 14 saxes here?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he had it on a team that stunk offensively.

[Big Cat]

No, he's still very, very, like, he.

[PFT Commenter]

Was on the field in a lot of, like, you know, late game, pass rush situations. Yeah, he still got 14 seconds. I think he's, like, in his prime solidly right now.

[Big Cat]

Who's he gonna go to?

[PFT Commenter]

I think he might be. That boy might be commie. Yeah, I think so. I think so. You don't want that, Max.

[Memes]

Oh, we're talking about next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Talk about next year.

[Big Cat]

What are you talking about?

[Memes]

I'm still playing this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but. No, but a couple minutes ago, you were saying that he might be a bird.

[Memes]

Well, I mean, that's what people are saying, but I'm worried about this year. I'll let you worry about next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Where do you think Miles Garrett's gonna end up?

[Memes]

Probably Eagle.

[PFT Commenter]

That was way easier than I thought.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think it would make sense for the guy.

[PFT Commenter]

It would make sense for the commanders. It would make sense for the Bill.

[Big Cat]

It's Bills, commanders, Packers, Eagles. I've seen the Bears run. I don't want the Bears to trade for him. Not that he's not good, but the Bears have too many holes. But it feels like a team more like Packers, Eagles, Commanders, Bills, Patriots. You guys have a lot of holes too.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He can be a big, big fill for those holes.

[Chris]

He keep.

[PFT Commenter]

That man can fill the hole. I've seen him in the sweatpants.

[Big Cat]

He can fill hole. And also Cooper cup is getting traded, which that was kind of crazy that he just. I feel like they probably weren't happy that he announced that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, it was. The team decided to trade him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he announced it. And so he was like, they've decided to move on from me.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm letting you guys know. It's not my. It's not my call. It's your call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, I was looking at his numbers too. He obviously had that great 20, 21 season. One of the best seasons of any wide receiver of all time. Since then, hasn't really been a top.

[Big Cat]

Tier wide receiver and He's I think $20 million or something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how that's going to work out. I mean, I think he's still pretty good Commie. He could be a commie. Yeah. It spread the love around. Spread the wealth around.

[Big Cat]

What, Hank? Maybe Patriot.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe Patriot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Belichick's not the coach anymore. He would get Cooper cup in a second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I do feel bad for Browns fans though, because Miles Garrett, you. I don't. I mean, you went to the playoffs a couple times, but you wasted his prime.

[PFT Commenter]

It sucks. It sucks.

[Big Cat]

Or just once they go once. Yeah, just once.

[PFT Commenter]

It sucks if you're a Browns fan because it does tie into the desean Watson trade.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Everything they gave up for that guy and it was as bad a move as you could ever make.

[Big Cat]

And it's also, I don't know, the cap makes no sense to me. It never will. But they're way over the cap and if they trade him, I think he still carries like an insane cap hit.

[Chris]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know what the Rudolph about that. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how that works out, but I feel like two first round picks. That seems like a fair. A fair deal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That was Cleo Mack was two first round picks.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Two first round pick seems like a good deal. I would. I would love for him to be a commander. I would absolutely love that. I want Myles Garrett so bad.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so sign up.

[PFT Commenter]

Come to D.C. miles, I know you're listening to the show.

[Big Cat]

Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Appreciate you. Don't listen to your boy Chris Long. He's going to feed you a bunch of nonsense about the birds. Don't listen to him. He's high, he's stoned. He's not making any sense. Not me. I am. I'm clear minded of sound body and mind sober. Miles, come to D.C. we'll treat you so good, buddy.

[Big Cat]

We also had more reports from the Luca trade, and it just gets dumber and dumber. This guy should be Nico Harrison.

[Max]

The.

[Big Cat]

The big report came out, and they basically did what we predicted, where they were like, luca's fat, and he's so fat, and we can't have him signing, like, the. The quote that stuck out to me. They were like, yeah, we didn't know if he was going to sign the supermax, and we were kind of like, half hoping he wouldn't. It's like, what the. Yeah, it makes no sense. So, yeah, Nico Harrison did this all at a coffee shop with Rob Blinkin. Rob Polinka essentially just heisted him and pretended like, oh, man, I. I know this is so difficult for you. Like, we'll keep this under wraps, just the two of us, and like, whoops, we got the best trade ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, do you think that Rob Pelinka, in those meetings, the thought occurred to him that maybe this is an episode of Punk? Like, is this a hidden camera show? Like, I'm just gonna try to play it cool.

[Big Cat]

And Rob Polinka did, like, he's like, ah, he's kind of fat. You're right. Yeah. Nope. The whole, like, oh, well, the Chris Paul trade got out when David Stern, you know, you know, put a squash to it. The Anthony Davis trade got out. The first one from the Pelicans. And like, that ruined a lot of vibes. Like, we got to keep this tight. We can't let anyone know just for the sanctity of this trade. And Nico's like, you're right. You're so right. We cannot tell anyone. And then it hits the airways. There was like, they're. The Mavs are giving back $2,000 refunds for anyone who wants to cancel their.

[PFT Commenter]

Season tickets credit to them.

[Big Cat]

That's how bad this trade is.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good front office that knows how to take care of their fans.

[Hank]

If I was a Mass fan, I would. I would. I would never get over it. I would never get over it.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Like, the only way deserves to be in prison.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it was.

[Hank]

It's malpractice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The only way you can reasonably get over it is if, like, Luka ends up being like, £320.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you got to hope he gets real fat.

[Hank]

But you want to root against Luka.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to root, like, you.

[Hank]

Don'T have nothing against Luka.

[Big Cat]

It's also insane that everyone Keeps saying the 270. Isn't he like 6 8?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. 270. Not that big.

[Hank]

Yeah, no.

[Big Cat]

Right. You're worried about super, so you're worried about super.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, he's just upset.

[PFT Commenter]

I am. I'm upset. I am upset. Yeah. The Luca thing, the fact that that Dalton connect was even tossed out there, and the Lakers were like, no. You know, including Dalton connect, I think that kills the deal. And the Mavericks were like, oh, they're gonna walk away. Yeah, okay, I'll say yes.

[Big Cat]

Luke is 6 6, by the way, and his listed weight is 230.

[PFT Commenter]

He is not 230.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty awesome. But, yeah, he. He. He did his press conference. He was like, I was just as shocked as everyone else. I thought it was April 1st. There was that sad story that he just bought a new, like, 15 million dollar house. So, Luca, that's brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

It's really bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's gonna have to sell that house.

[PFT Commenter]

It did seem that the gm, Nico was, like, just trying to avoid doing more work this summer and next year. Yeah, you know, it's a. It's a hard conversation. Do you want to commit this much money to him? Didn't really feel like going through that discussion, so I just got him off my table.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Didn't want. Just didn't want him to gain a single more pound. There was a funny story that Harold Bob went on a podcast. He used to work for the Mavs, and he said his first time going to the Mavs facility, Luca was working out in a sauna suit. And then after the practice, they got catered by Tex Mex, and Luca filled up, like, a huge, like, jug with just sweet tea and lemonade.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the. The Burt Kreischer with Kool Aid, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it's just. You knew this was gonna happen.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you're gonna say queso.

[Big Cat]

No, I thought when he was telling the story, I thought the same thing. I was like, oh, did Luca just walk away with like a gallon of queso?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, they. They then banned sweet tea and lemonade from the practice after that. So they just. They don't want to let the guy live.

[PFT Commenter]

You Know, it's interesting, the double standard the media has. When LeBron James puts on nine pounds during an NBA game, we all talk about what a freak athlete he is. When Luca puts on nine pounds during a practice, it's like, oh, this guy's got a problem. This guy's got a weight problem.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's. I. I don't like the slander on Luca.

[Max]

He's.

[PFT Commenter]

He did wear a fat guy outfit today. He had the. The button up shirt and then the sweater over top of that. So the button up was holding his physique in and then the. The cardigan was covering it all up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be very funny if he just showed up day one for the Lakers. It was in the best shape ever. Like, chiseled six pack.

[Big Cat]

Apparently LeBron called him right away and said, I unders. He said, I understand what you're feeling. How does LeBron understand what he's feeling? LeBron has literally decided every. Every step of his. That's the opposite of what you're feeling. Like, understand.

[PFT Commenter]

How does.

[Big Cat]

There was a report the Lakers tried to trade him to the warriors last year, and Rich Paul was like, no. So I don't know how LeBron understands.

[PFT Commenter]

What Luke is feeling, I guess in the grand sense. Like, maybe he just has empathy or.

[Big Cat]

Oh, actually, you know what? It was this, because when the story broke, LeBron was at dinner, so he probably was like, I don't understand what you're feeling. I'm full too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. You and I were not so different, Luca.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, we. I have to take a. Luca, I understand what you're feeling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think if the Mavericks win the NBA title this year, that would be awesome. And then if the Lakers won the NBA championship, like, for the three years after that, that would be very funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, yeah, shout out Luca for the 15 million dollar house. That's brutal. You know, he just moved. I mean, moving does suck. I'll say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Even as. Even as a guy who makes, like, has over 200 million in the bank. It doesn't matter. Moving sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So $15 million. I thought it. I thought his house would be more expensive than that.

[Big Cat]

You think so?

[Hank]

It's cheaper in Dallas also.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Like, once you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What are mansions like in. In Dallas, Hank?

[Hank]

They're nice. There's a lot of them. Yeah. Better price for them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Hot tubs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, the drywall work is shoddy, to say the least.

[Memes]

Oil.

[Big Cat]

Oil.

[PFT Commenter]

Oil.

[Max]

Oil.

[PFT Commenter]

Good point, Max.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Great job, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that a fat comment for Luca.

[Big Cat]

No, I think he was literally meaning oil.

[Memes]

Like, oil money.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Chris]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He didn't complete the sentence.

[Memes]

Yeah, I was thinking about oil.

[Hank]

Big oil.

[Big Cat]

The dumbest. The dumbest trade ever. I. I don't really know how it's. How it could. It's just still, like, I thought that after two days, there would be a little more clarity, and it would be. I was expecting there to be, like, a Luca injury we didn't know about. It really just boils down to Nico Harrison's a moron, and they were scared that Luca was going to keep gaining weight.

[PFT Commenter]

It also could be trying to get a favor, and then they have to deal with it.

[Hank]

In the summer, the casino.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll try the casino that the Mavericks owner wants to build.

[Big Cat]

Ye. Yeah.

[Hank]

Or the ratings in LA thing makes sense, too.

[Big Cat]

There's also.

[Hank]

But that's a conspiracy, and I don't want to go down that road. But it's like, you trade. You know, league ratings are going down. There's issues. You trade the best player to the biggest market international. That helps. What was the conspiracy? That's bad. To go down those roads. Yeah, but it's not la.

[Big Cat]

It's not la. What was it? Casino conspiracy.

[PFT Commenter]

So the casino conspiracy is that the owner of the Mavericks wants very badly to build a casino in Texas, right? Like, at the site of the Mavericks.

[Big Cat]

I heard there's two casino conspiracy. Okay, So I want to hear yours.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so. So he wants. He's on the record. He's lobbying in the Texas State legislature, which means it meets for six months, once every two years. They do all their work in those six months, and then they just. They just go away and they don't do anything for a while. So if you want to get anything done in Texas, Hank wants to be a legislator, so. Yeah, you should. You should work in the Texas State legislature. Legislature, Hank.

[Hank]

I'm down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Are they on it?

[Max]

Are they on?

[Hank]

Indeed.

[PFT Commenter]

Step number one, get established residency in Texas. You know, any houses that you could live in. He's already got his in there.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. So, yeah, big footprint for Hank in Texas already. They do all their work in six months, then they go away and they off for a while. The owner of the Mavericks has been lobbying to get this casino built and to lobby for, like, legalized sports gaming and for gambling in Texas. The legislature's like, yeah, it. We don't really feel like doing that because we might lose some votes. So we're not going to do the whole gambling thing. That pissed off the Owner of the Mavericks. Now, the conspiracy is the Mavericks owner wants to send a good player to LA to get on the good side of the Lakers because they're like the most powerful voice in the NBA. So in a couple years, he could threaten to move the Mavericks to Las Vegas where they have legalized gambling.

[Big Cat]

So. So the conspiracy theory that I read kind of blends into that one where it's the Mavs are. The owners of the Mavs are basically trying to alienate the fan base so much that the NBA will eventually add two more teams, and the Adelsons, I think their name is, will move the Mavs to Las Vegas and then there'll be a expansion franchise called the Dallas Mavericks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, that's. That's pretty much the same thing. Yeah, but it's like the NFL used to do this until there was a team in Vegas. It was always great having Las Vegas without a team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because any owner, anytime they wanted money from, you know, when the billionaires, they don't want to pay for their own stadiums, you can bleep that out. They would say, yeah, well, we could maybe move to Las Vegas.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the local community be like, yeah, I guess we have to give you all the money for our schools.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, which. Yeah, the la. Yeah, like you said, the LA thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Which in fairness, would you rather have a good school system or a winning football team?

[Big Cat]

Winning football.

[PFT Commenter]

Winning football team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Winning football. I don't know why I paused for so long. I'm not thinking about my kids for a second.

[PFT Commenter]

And I was like, it's better if your kids are dumb. You can trick them.

[Memes]

Your kids can root for football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, just give them YouTube.

[Big Cat]

They learn football math.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, X. Just log them into x.com.

[Big Cat]

The better your football team is, the more numbers packets.

[PFT Commenter]

They are the media.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

My house is the mlb.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Hank]

And I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a conspiracy guy.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Hank]

I'm never chill. Just, you know, vibe out, bridge. Let life happen. Whatever happens happens. Ceste Lavie Dolph. But if you were a conspiracy guy, you might be like, this is insane. The MLB had to fire a ref because he was sharing a ref. Sorry, umpire. He was sharing a gambling account with another gambler who was gambling on baseball, including the games that he was on firing.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it his brother or was it just a friend?

[Big Cat]

I'll say it.

[Hank]

Professional poker player.

[Max]

I'll say.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this. They should fire him. You think sharing a gambling account is, Is a felony? Yeah, like, not even just legally. I'm just saying that's the most psycho thing I've ever heard. You having to track everything you bet and then all your. Everything your friend bets. That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

And then if you, if you hit a couple bets, then your friend tells people, like, hey, look at all these bets I hit. That's insane.

[Big Cat]

Pre crime.

[Hank]

But he said he never bet on baseball directly or indirectly.

[Chris]

Don't care.

[Big Cat]

You shared a gambling account. That's weirdo behavior.

[PFT Commenter]

But that account did bet on baseball games that he was reffing. Right.

[Big Cat]

But also, just like, you don't even if the MLB was like, we don't even care about the whole betting part or the baseball thing. We can't have people employed by us who think it's okay to share a gambling account.

[Hank]

Yeah. It makes no sense.

[Big Cat]

Makes no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

I think, I think it's like old.

[Big Cat]

School when, like, I, like way back in the day when my friends would text me, being like, can you put this in for me? I'm like, no, because then when you win, I'm just gonna have to pay you because I lose all the time.

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean, shout out to light switch Lou, because I used to not gamble as much money. So he would just let me bet on his account, but then I never really had to pay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Baseball umpires are frauds. Anyways, I used to think they were all fat because they wore the chest protectors.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they used to be fatter back in the day.

[Big Cat]

They did. They've gone a little bit in shape, but probably nothing. Yeah, probably nothing.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, no, I, I, there's something there. I don't want weirdos umpiring baseball games.

[PFT Commenter]

Was he the umpire for any, like, significant games.

[Hank]

I did not say in the article that I read.

[PFT Commenter]

We gotta go back.

[Big Cat]

It'd be funny if he shared the gambling account with Shohei or Ipe. Yeah.

[Hank]

And you're like, hey, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go umpire tonight. And I was like, yeah, hey, by the way, I'm betting the Orioles.

[Big Cat]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We did all kind of stop talking about the Ipe. Shohei thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Ipe. He's. He begged for leniency. I don't know. Justice for Ipe maybe possibly store more.

[Hank]

To come then My Cool Thrones. Kendrick Lamar.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

After we taped on. On Sunday. But he won five Grammys.

[Big Cat]

Five.

[Hank]

Zero. Not like us. Every Grammy that I was nominated for, he won.

[Big Cat]

Super Bowl Halftime.

[Hank]

Super bowl halftime.

[Chris]

7.

[Big Cat]

A hell of a week.

[Hank]

The whole.

[Memes]

The whole crowd sang a minor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

When they played.

[Big Cat]

This wasn't from a Drake song where he said, Kendrick opened his mouth. Give him a Grammy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's tough.

[Hank]

I'm gonna give him a Grammy right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He's wearing a Canadian tuxedo. It's really.

[Big Cat]

It really is.

[Hank]

And yeah, it was like, oh, he won five Grammys. Always doing the super bowl in a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Has there ever been more of a, like, blowout, subjective, loss, insane that. That the Kendrick Drake thing turned into like. Obviously art is entirely in the eye of the beholder, and different people can have differing opinions. But in this one thing where people can interpret it either any way they see fit. Like, this is as big of a blowout as you'll ever see a diss track.

[Hank]

The record of the, like, this is the best song of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

In. In the entire song in like two minutes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And here's the super bowl too.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Where you're going to have everyone say probably you're gonna have people sing the pedophile line.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It was like a 9 nothing soccer victory. And three of them were own goals.

[Big Cat]

He has to basically release the best song of all time.

[Hank]

I don't think it matters at this point. I don't think he's. I think he's just cooked. Disappear.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Drake needs to sue everyone that's listened to the song.

[Big Cat]

He needs to disappear and make the best song. Best album ever. That's like 10 of the best songs ever. And then maybe he has a chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Good job. Hank.

[Hank]

Are we gonna talk? But we're gonna mention the. The Max story before the Lane interview because he's on My Cool Throne too.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

Well, we Can Jalen Hurts.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. We went to the very hotel today. What happened with Jalen Hurts?

[Hank]

We were. We were going to do Lane Johnson in the.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we were gonna go do him.

[Hank]

Going to interview Wayne Johnson.

[PFT Commenter]

Sorry.

[Hank]

And Jalen Hurts was walk. Just happened to be walking by us in the hallway. And Max like, like, hid behind a column. Like, he was not supposed to be like, he's. Oh, chilling. And like, hid behind a column and then kind of peeked his head out to, like, look at him walk by.

[PFT Commenter]

You were like in the bushes.

[Hank]

It was so funny. So funny.

[Memes]

I was scared.

[Big Cat]

He's done merch collabs with us, but it's.

[Hank]

It was like he saw him and he was like.

[Memes]

I was nervous. I was expecting to see him. We were. We were standing, right. It started off I just stared at him, and then I think he saw me staring at him. I was like, this is awkward.

[Big Cat]

And you got the red eyes.

[Memes]

I just got. I just got scared and went behind this little pillar.

[Big Cat]

Max with his red eye. Where's your eye going to stop being red?

[Memes]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Case race, man.

[Big Cat]

So what you think when you saw.

[Memes]

Him, he looked strong?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, real strong.

[Memes]

Yeah, he was walking well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I analyzed the game.

[Hank]

He was walking, walking strong, walking, confident.

[PFT Commenter]

No sight of a limp.

[Memes]

He's going to up on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Wait, in a good way.

[Big Cat]

That's not really.

[Memes]

No. Like, I came here to up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but up could go.

[Memes]

No, I came here to up.

[Chris]

That's like.

[Memes]

That's like a saying.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna hand the out of the ball on Sunday and throw the football.

[Big Cat]

He can do both and run the football.

[Memes]

And run the football. He could do everything and score the football.

[Big Cat]

He said he wanted. He said it's not the tosh portions. There's a QB sneak. Yeah, that media night beast.

[PFT Commenter]

The packers president said he hopes that it gets banned.

[Memes]

Who? I think I was having this conversation with Jerry. Does he have the best goatee in sports right now?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Interesting. Embrace debate easily. We don't have a lot of relief pitcher goatees like we used to. No, that was like. It was part of the uniform code.

[Hank]

These are hard to pull off.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he really pulls it off.

[Big Cat]

He does pull it off. You just passed over what PFT said.

[Memes]

I don't remember.

[Big Cat]

The packers president is trying to get the tush push banned.

[Memes]

Yeah, they're.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Football.

[Memes]

Yeah. Be better.

[Big Cat]

Be better.

[Memes]

That's all I have to say.

[PFT Commenter]

If you don't like the push push, don't let him get in touch push situations. Or stop. Or keep.

[Big Cat]

Stop.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep breaking the rules until the referees threaten you with a touchdown. Yeah, that's what winners do.

[Memes]

Like that.

[Big Cat]

No, he didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Your hot seat. Cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

My hot seat is the birds. Birds are on the hot seat.

[Hank]

Ducks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because, like, 300 dead birds washed up ashore. Don't worry about Lake Michigan in Chicago know. They said it's bird flu, maybe.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, bro.

[Hank]

That's the circle of life, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is.

[Hank]

Comes for all of us.

[PFT Commenter]

Carson Wentz just hanging out. Do you think he just shot all of them? I don't know. That seems like a lot of dead ducks.

[Memes]

What if Carson Wentz has to play in this game this weekend?

[PFT Commenter]

You're insane. Max has gone crazy right now.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Hank]

That would actually believable.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Hank]

Despite the fact that, like, I need.

[Big Cat]

The Eagles storyline just dropped.

[Hank]

I would. I would root so hard just. And that's up to even say. But it would be so funny.

[Memes]

$30,000.

[Hank]

You said you in the super bowl would be. And it would also be like. Because then I could be like, well, it's not even Patrick Mahomes.

[Big Cat]

He's just sit.

[Hank]

Some quarterback.

[Big Cat]

We already taped FAQs earlier today, and you were like, it can't get worse.

[Hank]

Oh, that would be.

[Big Cat]

That would get worse.

[Chris]

I would come.

[Big Cat]

That would be worse.

[Hank]

You said that, like, in a good way. Yeah, man.

[Memes]

No, I was just thinking about it. You said Carson Wentz, and I was like, oh, yeah. Carson Wentz plays for the Chiefs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What if they roll that little freak out there and he just drops 300 yards on you?

[Big Cat]

What if he. What if Patrick Mahomes goes out in the first quarter, then Carson Wentz comes in and sprains both his ankles again and then still wins.

[PFT Commenter]

Tough guy.

[Memes]

Yeah, that would stink.

[PFT Commenter]

Would that be the biggest sports story ever? Ever, Ever, ever, ever, ever?

[Hank]

Bigger than Luca ever?

[Big Cat]

O.J.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that's not a sports story. That's crime.

[Memes]

It's kind of a sports story.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he. He was athletic and fast.

[Memes]

He's a football player.

[PFT Commenter]

Nascar maybe. Nascar, yeah. Max, that would be awesome. I hope. Now. Now that's what I hope happens.

[Memes]

Yeah. No, I don't. I hope that that doesn't happen. Sorry for. Sorry for interrupting you there.

[PFT Commenter]

Carson went super bowl mvp.

[Big Cat]

All right. What's your cool throne?

[PFT Commenter]

My cool throne is litigation because Pat Riley has struck a deal with the NFL. So the term 3 Pete is trademarked by Pat Riley from back when the Lakers did it. And anytime a team wants to use the term Three peat. They got to pay Pat royalties. And the Chiefs, as we know, they.

[Big Cat]

Didn'T get a three peat. By the way. He got it when they had two and they were going for their third and loss of the Pistons.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, so. But he did trademark it, so. Yeah, Hank, it is sick that anytime somebody uses that officially, it's crazy. You got to kick up to the big man, Pat Riley. So the Chiefs, obviously on the precipice of an unprecedented three peat in the NFL, and they struck a deal with the NFL that they can put it on merchandise. The term three. Pete, if the Chiefs win, does that make you do the fingers? Max, the NFL seems like they wouldn't do this if they didn't already know that Chiefs were going to win. What do you think about that, Max?

[Memes]

I don't know. I'm worried about winning.

[Big Cat]

And also, yeah, we shouldn't.

[Memes]

I shouldn't have said that.

[PFT Commenter]

My other cool throne is style, because I just downloaded the. The Temu app and you can just buy anything on there. It all costs like $12. And so I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna load up on the highest fashion sense ever.

[Hank]

And you're doing new stuff. I thought you're a new fashion.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but they got.

[Hank]

Sounds like you. It sounds like the PSD of old.

[PFT Commenter]

They got. They got high fashion haute couture on Teemu. Designer brands. I'm just gonna order memes.

[Hank]

What designers?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Hank]

The Gap.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they're not. Dude, you don't know about Timu. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna be so swaggy when I get back from vacation, I'm gonna look like a new man. New clothes.

[Hank]

Sean John.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, whatever. Echo Unlimited.

[Max]

What?

[Memes]

You're growing up.

[PFT Commenter]

Echo Unlimited. Get some. Yeah, some.

[Hank]

Like, what was Diddy's?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Oh, yeah, I'm probably not gonna wear that. Yeah, I did get oiled up the other day, though.

[Chris]

You did.

[PFT Commenter]

Smoothest man in the podcast biz.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Pmtv.

[Big Cat]

My hot seat. Pmtv. Watch it. My hot seat is college football because we have this from. There's a Twitter account called Board Geniuses, which is a great follow because they basically just get all the crazy conspiracy theories and everything from all the mess.

[Hank]

Dude, no.

[Big Cat]

Well, hot seat. College football, because I think this is from Pitt Panther. So it's from the Panther layer message board. It's called the underground talent railroad. Step one, self awareness. Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, BC and Rutgers all take an honest look at themselves and think, wow. As college football programs go we are freaking depressing. Step two, collusion. Well, individually, we make our fans want to bathe with electronic appliances. Maybe we can be something collectively. Step three, teamwork. Let's create a network where we're all transparent with each other. Every fifth year, each one of us can take its turn having the A team. In the first season, Pitt gets to have the 22 best players between the five programs. In the second season, Syracuse gets the best 22, and so on and so forth. We will use unlimited transfers to our benefit, and all players who commit to these five schools will be well aware of the deal in place. Playing on the A team in a given season will be a great privilege. Step four, Natty.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't hate it.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually don't hate it at all. I love it and love it.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So which is collusion even illegal?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Is it?

[PFT Commenter]

Who's going to enforce it?

[Big Cat]

I think you can collude.

[PFT Commenter]

You can do whatever you want.

[Hank]

Collusion and collabing.

[PFT Commenter]

Good point.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're just collabing. Yeah, it's just a hardcore collab.

[PFT Commenter]

The most ambitious crossover event of all time. Syracuse Pit. Who else?

[Big Cat]

Syracuse on it. Minimized it. I think it was Syracuse Pit. Rutgers, Rutgers and Boston College. And I don't know who the fifth.

[PFT Commenter]

Team was, but in reality, if you were to take, like, the all star teams from those schools and put them together on one team, I still don't think that they're gonna.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would still probably. You probably would just get, like, a.

[PFT Commenter]

Better bowl game, maybe get into the playoff.

[Big Cat]

Maryland was the other team.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

The underground talent railroad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know why they had to go there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just stick with, like, serious collusion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, here's another one for my cool throne. This just happened. Dennis Schroeder from the warriors said the trade deadline is like modern slavery. Luka Doncic deal shouldn't be allowed. I don't know what. How.

[Hank]

Because he's had to play. He's had to play with, like, six teams in seven years or five years. That's. That was part of it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not.

[Hank]

I've had to play for five teams in six years.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not a history buff.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

So maybe you guys can help me. Did slaves get paid?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Do NBA players get paid?

[Big Cat]

They do.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably not that much.

[Big Cat]

I do. Yeah. I don't know. How is this quote I'm trying to.

[PFT Commenter]

Find you get dunk settled?

[Big Cat]

No, no. It's on CBS Sports. It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's Quite a quote, I think. I think what he was trying to say is that it sucks to get traded.

[Big Cat]

It's like modern slavery. It's modern slavery. At the end of the day, everybody can decide where you're going, even if you have a contract. Yeah, of course. We make a lot of money. We can feed our families. But at the end of the day, if they say you're not coming to work tomorrow, you're going over there, they can decide that. They got to change that a little bit. I.

[Memes]

Isn't that part of the contest?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And that's also how trades work.

[PFT Commenter]

And there's also a thing. As if you're good enough. You can get a no trade clause.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Where you can control where you're going.

[Big Cat]

It's kind of crazy that the organization can tell you we want you to be team first, but you're going over there. It's a lot. I feel like Dennis Schroeder just figured out how sports work.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, that's. It's a fair point.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To be like, yeah, it personally kind of sucks when you get traded.

[Big Cat]

Here's another thing. If you. I mean, in the NBA, you have guaranteed contracts. So unlike a regular job where you can be fired and just not paid. The NBA, even if you get traded, you still get paid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's true. So it's not a bad gig.

[Big Cat]

Well, you're saying Dennis Schroeder, all time bag fumbler. All time what? Bag fumbler. Yeah. Yeah. He had the 12.4 million dollar deal.

[PFT Commenter]

With the Lakers and opted out and.

[Big Cat]

Bet on himself and got like a.

[Memes]

One point something million dollar deal.

[PFT Commenter]

That's got to be real. Kick, kick in the dick. When you're like, I'd like to bet on myself. And then the casino tells you, yeah, turns out you suck.

[Big Cat]

Oh, shit. Bet on yourself. Oh, you're a loser.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Craps.

[Big Cat]

Damn, Max, you have a hot sequel to him.

[Memes]

Yeah. Mine are bad.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Memes]

Should I say it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

We're doing a podcast. I actually will. I'm gonna say this in defense of Max. For the first time all week. I think he's actually locked in.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a little bit concerned about him.

[Big Cat]

You didn't let me finish. Locked in on trying to fight off his hangover.

[Memes]

That's not true. Not true.

[Big Cat]

I asked him to sport if you would outlast a goes. Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

End of the show. I was pretty. We did the end of the show this morning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I was pretty hungover.

[Hank]

You look great now.

[Memes]

Right now, right now.

[Big Cat]

I feel. Yeah, the red eye is. Is really healing well.

[Memes]

I have a red eye.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank has done thousands of podcasts with deep red eyes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah. All right, so Hawk seat. Kevin Durant might get traded. Oh, that's. That was my hot seat.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Per. Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

That's never happened.

[Memes]

No, they. They said that they're listening to phone calls on Kevin Durant.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Memes]

And there's. There's a bunch of guys that are doing that now.

[Hank]

The week of trade deadline.

[Memes]

Yeah, yeah, I know. Trade deadline weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll say this.

[Hank]

If I got a text from a random number that Jimmy Butler and Jay Rich are going to the Heat. Confirmed. Said this is a random source.

[PFT Commenter]

It's real.

[Big Cat]

He's on the.

[Memes]

On the heat.

[Hank]

I mean, the Suns. Oh, apologies.

[Memes]

But Bradley Beal has to waive his no trade.

[Hank]

Listen, this is what a random ass text sent me.

[Memes]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I trust that guy.

[Big Cat]

Kevin Durant. There's. There's. There's so.

[PFT Commenter]

So listening.

[Big Cat]

So, Kevin, it's the trade deadline, and Kevin Durant might be traded.

[Memes]

That's what they. That's what people are saying.

[PFT Commenter]

So Paul George.

[Memes]

Also, the warriors are trying to trade for Paul George.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

If Nico calls.

[Memes]

And Caleb Martin also got Caleb out of the East.

[Hank]

Him.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What? He just signed with the Sixers.

[Memes]

Yeah, they traded him.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[Memes]

Grimes.

[Max]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're just saying names now.

[Memes]

Quentin Grimes and the Sixers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Caleb Martin and the Mavs, but actually.

[Hank]

Making me feel better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he is. Are you cool to him if you.

[PFT Commenter]

Get a call from Nico right now, though? If you're a gm, you're like, so. You're so excited to pick up that call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, that would be the best time for Nico to get a great trade off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because everyone thinks he's a.

[Memes]

Everyone said he got fleeced. Quentin Grimes is, like, younger and better than Caleb Martin.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the big fleecing that they're talking about.

[Memes]

Celtic killer. True.

[Max]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Cool. Throwing us. Hank is right, because we're not what you are right now.

[Max]

Wrong. Cool.

[Memes]

Throne Giants. Jamis to the Giants. According to Saquon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's it. Done.

[Memes]

Benico, play the ads.

[Big Cat]

Let's get to our interviews. Lane Johnson and then Jameis Winston.

[PFT Commenter]

One very funny thing on the set. I don't know if you guys noticed this, but they made a license plate for part of my take in Louisiana. And just as PMT licks back there, because it's the Roman numeral.

[Big Cat]

Okay, before we get to Lane Johnson, A quick word from our friends at Chevy. Chevy has packed more capability into the Silverado Trail Boss so that you can pack more fun into your weekend. Have yourself a Friday, Saturday and Sunday with the truck that says no to nothing. Tailgates, spontaneous camping trips, DIY projects. Bring it on. What about a cross country road trip? Silverado was the perfect ride for last year's grit week out west. Recently they helped us give fullbacks the recognition they deserve with the low man award. Well, the Silver Silverado Trail Boss is built like a fullback. We're talking £495 of per foot of torque. Hold on to your sodas, Max. Plus the Trail Boss gives you an extra 2 inch lift. So maybe Hank can finally dunk. Silverado brings a grit. Then pairs it with the all the latest truck tech, inside and out. The result, A truck that can do it all. Then show up on Monday with a story to tell. So learn more about the Silverado trail [e-mail] Chevrolet together. Let's drive. We're also brought to you by our friends at Mountain Dew. Grab a Baja Blast. Max had a blast. A refreshing tropical lime flavor to your game day with Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Mountain Dew Baja Blast is part of my game day ritual. We get into the gambling cave every Sunday. We're gonna miss football Sundays. We're gonna miss the having the Mountain Dew Baja Blast with football Sundays. But we're gonna still drink Mountain Dew Baja Blast. It's the best way to sit down and enjoy a game. The big matchup, the tropical lime flavor Mountain Dew Baja Blast is as refreshing as hitting a parlay or a game winning kick or 98 yard pick six, max. Imagine this. Close your eyes. Super Bowl Sunday. You're in the stadium. The Eagles just got to pick six. And then you take a swig of your Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds.

[Memes]

Sounds like a dream that might be.

[Big Cat]

You might, you might reach nirvana in that moment.

[Memes]

Sounds like a dream.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm screaming at Jalen Hurts again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How much you love them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How much you love them.

[Big Cat]

How much you love them. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Ride the bottle endorsement.

[Big Cat]

Ride the Baja wave on game day and grab Mountain Dew Baja Blasts for you and your crew wherever refreshing beverages are sold. Okay, here he is, Elaine Johnson. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is future hall of famer Lane Johnson.

[PFT Commenter]

How's that sound?

[Big Cat]

How's that sound? That sounds pretty good. Future hall of famer Lane Johnson ahead of his third super bowl appearance here in New Orleans. Let's start with that. Three Super Bowls Pretty crazy to go to. You have one. You're one in one. This is the tiebreaker.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it's got to feel pretty crazy, especially the fact that you've done it with, like, I think I was reading, it's like you and Jake Elliott and maybe one other person.

[Chris]

BG and Rick. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And so it's just like you guys are the holdovers from the super bowl win, and then you've been to another one and now you're here the third. That's. That's pretty cool.

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, it's. The season takes so long to develop and play out, but, you know, by the December, you kind of know that your team's in a. In a good positive state. So. Man, we struggled a little bit early, but after that, man, we were off and off and rolling and. Yeah, man. Third, it's crazy. I mean, you don't plan on it, but hey, while we're here, let's have a good time and win this thing.

[Big Cat]

You mentioned the struggle because there was that story that during the bye week, you guys who was. It was you and. And a couple other guys went to Nick and were just basically like, hey, like, let's run the ball. We can. We can pound this. And we're like, let's get. Let's get this out of the mud.

[Chris]

Right? Yeah. I mean, I think it was like, similar to what we did in 21 when we played Detroit and went from like, really throwing the ball heavy to like, a lot of run play action, and then Saquon will bust for like, 70. It's like just. Just tossing the damn ball.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's gonna feel pretty good.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

First play from scrimmage in the NFC Championship game, it's like, okay, yeah, we're gonna do this. We're gonna roll up.

[Chris]

Yeah. No. Yeah. I mean, it's. You never planned on it, but his ability to just, you know, and my ability to just head straight to the bench and when it's not even done as an older guy now, so I get kind of criticized from laziness.

[PFT Commenter]

Your offensive line in that game, it was. It was impressive to watch. Like, you guys are some tough.

[Chris]

Well, some big. Like, I'm like the second smallest.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Juergens and myself. So we got some monsters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, the way that, that Cam was playing, the way that Landon Dickerson was playing, especially after getting injured in that first half, like, that was. You guys left it all on the field. It was. It was impressive.

[Chris]

Yeah, Landon, man, he might be the toughest guy I Know, he's had I don't know how many surgeries, but in college, and then he could do the splits and all sorts. I got a video. Y'all gotta see if I can have time to find it. Him at Jack Driscoll's wedding. Him doing the splits and the worm.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So, I mean, if we have time, maybe. Yeah, it's kind of not safe for work.

[Big Cat]

But wait, so when. When. When you see that, when like, Landon Dickerson and then Cam Juergens, who, you know, he. He's got the back injury, Landon goes out, does it make you all as, like, a unit, be like, we just got to be tougher than everyone? Because, you know, guys are playing like Cam Jurgens was. He. His back is, like, broken, and he's like, all right, I guess I'm in.

[Chris]

I've only seen him on a BOSU ball for, like, the past two weeks, like, sitting on the motherfucker, like. Yeah. Sprawled out at practice.

[Big Cat]

What' but it's got to make everyone feel like you got to just get even tougher.

[Chris]

Yeah, man, those guys. Yeah, they are. But I think just how with stout coaches and just guys in the past, like, Kelsey never missed a game, played lots of games, and he always had something that was going on, but almost part is part of the. It's part of the position, I guess.

[Big Cat]

Are you feeling healthy? Because I remember last time in 2022, when we came visit you super bowl week, you had, like, six different injuries that should have sidelined anyone else.

[Chris]

Yeah, I pretty much had a C section.

[Big Cat]

You definitely downplayed it, too. You're just like, no.

[Chris]

Well, no, it wasn't like, it hurt initially, and then after a few weeks of, you know, kind of died down. But when. After I had the surgery, the groin surgery was not good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you had your foot, too. It was. You had a foot injury as well, I think, going to that.

[Chris]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but it was. It was major up there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

A little bit north. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So are we good now, though? We're feeling.

[Chris]

Yeah, we're good, man. I feel. Yeah. No, no bruises, Dinks, dents. That's good.

[PFT Commenter]

So it was. You had a hernia?

[Chris]

Is that what it was growing? I tore my. Both groins, so my left groins. I tore my left one in Dallas, and they did the other side, and they said it was already. So it must have been torn. I didn't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I mean, but my right side didn't hurt. It was on my left.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like if you have two injuries, you can Your body only really focuses on one at a time, but right. Like, it's hard to feel pain in two places.

[Chris]

I took it one day at a time, I promise.

[Big Cat]

So, wait, so you wouldn't have known that you, you'd already had torn your groin if you didn't tear the other part of your groin?

[Chris]

I think because. Because I didn't, like, I wasn't in any pain, but when I felt the left one, it popped and I felt it roll up. It felt like a cramp. And then after adrenaline wore up, wore off. Hey, it's wasn't a cramp.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're feeling good now.

[Chris]

Feeling good now? Yeah, I still got scars.

[PFT Commenter]

But hey, would you lie to us? We're feeling good now.

[Chris]

No, I mean, other than this damn pinky I've had for three weeks. I don't. You know, I didn't get it X rayed, but hey.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you can't do anything for a pinky.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, tape it up. Give it a bunny finger.

[Chris]

Money. Tape it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

And are you. How many more years you got left? Because people keep saying, I don't know why that's a story.

[Chris]

How much money. How much money they got left.

[Big Cat]

Okay, all right, I like that. I like that. But you're not.

[Chris]

I'm not retiring after this game.

[PFT Commenter]

I said, yeah, what if you. No matter what, what if you get super bowl mvp?

[Big Cat]

That'd be pretty sick.

[Chris]

We'll give those guys a drug test and see.

[Big Cat]

That would rock, though.

[Chris]

Saquon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Saquon got three touchdowns, gets 250 yards. But you have like seven pancakes on all those runs. You just dominate people. Offensive lineman, mvp. That'd be fun to see.

[Chris]

Yeah, I might just take it from him eventually. From his house. You wouldn't even know. You know what I'm saying? He's got so many.

[Big Cat]

Was there a part of you that wanted Saquan to play week 18? You're just like. Because, I mean, it's pretty damn cool.

[Chris]

Yeah, no, we talked about it, but then like we had the year before AJ got hurt in that game. We had to go play Tampa and couldn't play. So it's like we wanted the record. But hey, if you go out there and get something happens to Saquon, they're going to be off with your head around here. So your decision.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, it's your way I.

[Chris]

See it, you look at. I feel like carries matter. So he would have had needed 30 something more carries to do what Dickerson did for yards. But either way, it's like we're at a point in the season, it's like, okay, now 2000 in front of us, as close, it's attainable, but it's like nothing that you plan on at the beginning of the season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

Until he runs for like 251 game, you're like, hey, he could really do this.

[Big Cat]

And it's crazy because you. Your rookie year, Lashan McCoy.

[Chris]

Yeah. And it felt similar like that. But I didn't know they had a Russian record title or. That was a big, A big deal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Until he bought us some watches. Yeah. I was like, hey, it's pretty big deal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And to get he. How many yards did he finish up with?

[Chris]

16 something, I believe for that year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, it was like a little over 1600.

[PFT Commenter]

What about for this year?

[Big Cat]

For the Sean Shady 2013?

[Chris]

Yeah, 2013 Saquons would be what, 2003 yards or whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's right.

[Big Cat]

Stephen Chase 16. 2005.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. It is cool that he got in 16 games too. So you can say like, hey, you can stack this up. This is an incredible season.

[Chris]

Didn't they really just mess with the record book holders at this extra game?

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Chris]

I mean, damn it, everything. If it's about to be moved. 18.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So they.

[Big Cat]

That's when you got to get out.

[PFT Commenter]

They announced. They announced the super bowl dates today. And in 2027, I think it's going to be in LA and it's going to be on President's Day weekend, which means probably 18 games at that point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

They were scheming.

[PFT Commenter]

They're scheming. They care about player safety though. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Number one.

[Chris]

Hey, I do have to wear that. The. The mushroom.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

The guardian cap over whenever I'm in practice, but in games I'm good. Does that help scientifically? Probably.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I don't know, it.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe in practice it reduces some of the like small hits that add up.

[Big Cat]

But. Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But in practice, I mean, we all, I mean, run days like Wednesdays when we pad up, will hit and other than that, it's mostly using hands.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So if you were to compare this Eagles team to the other two Eagles super bowl teams, who wins, like if this team against the Nick Foles team.

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Chris]

It's hard to.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not really a good question.

[Chris]

It's hard to compete with a man who speaks soft and carries a big stick.

[Big Cat]

Well said. Do you. Do you want some crazy Lane Johnson stats? Sure.

[Chris]

Hold on. I gotta finish how they stack up. Well, I feel like we had like a blend to be great for all three teams. I feel like we may be more talented than last year's Super Bowl. I don't know if this is talented at 17, that's still the best team until, you know, if we win this one prove otherwise. So that's how I see it. But both you had like older vets, a bunch of young, like, you know, like Q's, like just super freak rookies and Cooper. So.

[Big Cat]

And this is also, I mean it's kind of similar. I know that it was a little different that the Patriots won a Super bowl, then lost to you guys and won a Super bowl, but that would have been a three peat and now you're trying to stop another three.

[Chris]

Yeah. But either way they're, they're, they're in the super bowl every year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It seems like of the last six years. So. Yeah, man. With all those teams, they don't make, they don't make very many mistakes. Yeah, they, I mean, you guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

What are you going to do?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I remember we was it week one against the Ravens, the Chiefs, they were calling a lot of those false starts on the Ravens, on the tackles.

[Chris]

It was mine and Juan Taylor's fault for all this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's true, that's true. Do you think that the refs are going to be out to get you?

[Chris]

Well, hell, I told him to go talk to my, my pro officer, Jason Peters. He's the one that told me how to read this now. Just called his number.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Big Dom on the sideline. Just looking at the reps. That'll take care of a lot of that stuff.

[Chris]

Yeah, just go talk to Dom.

[Big Cat]

All right. You ready for the Lane Johnson stats?

[Chris]

Let's go.

[Big Cat]

On Sunday, Lane Johnson will become only the third offensive tackle in NFL history to make six Pro Bowls, two first team all pros and start in three Super Bowls. And the other two guys did it like 40 years ago. So you're the first guy to do it in 40 years. And then the crazy one. I'm sure you've seen it and I know it's a team game, but since you, since you got to the Eagles, when you're not on the field, The Eagles are 15 and 23. When you're on the field, they're 102 and 55. That's insane.

[Chris]

And I'm pretty good.

[Big Cat]

That's insane. It's like the. So there's 6, 650 win percentage with you playing 395 without you playing.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty damn good. Do you see those stats? And you're like, oh, okay.

[Chris]

The stats I care about is the hurries, the. The pressures, which you don't give up any. Yeah. But you do whatever you do, they're tallied. Oh, look at that. So it's like. It's like I'm not even trying to press that no more. I'm trying to get my pff grades so I can party, you know, like, party like I want to.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But no, man, I feel like I just. Especially over these last few years, like, I felt like when I had the injury, like when I was 29, 30, if, like, I had some really good years taken away from me. So, like, my sense of urgency the past few is like, well, I'm in my 30s now. Let's fucking. Yeah, it's now. Never. So, yeah. Yeah, man, that's really what it is. And we. And we have a lot of fun, but we have a lot of talented guys in the room. Like Makai. Being that big inside makes passing off stunts so much easier. Landon Jordan. And in our style of offense this year, like, so much run play action versus just, you know, straight shotgun rushing the snapper, it's. It changes things for us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you enjoy pass blocking?

[Chris]

Yeah, when they call it quick protection, some boots. No, I don't mind it, but I do. It's like going to a boxing match. A pass block is you dodging punches and making sure nothing happens. And then run blocking is, hey, I'm throwing a haymaker back. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When you get space like a big angry dog and you just start running down, downhill at somebody, that looks like that's fun.

[Chris]

Yeah, it is. And especially when we're organized and everybody's on the same page and it just looks like a wave on film. And then Saquon just, you know, he does his own crates, his own waves and lanes. But, yeah, it's fun, man. We have a lot of fun with Stout and I was telling you about him earlier, but he. He's the catalyst to. To everything. I feel like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Were you guys mad at Saquon when he jumped, when he hurled someone backwards? I mean, that was. It was the coolest play ever, but it also was like, don't do that. That's a bad idea.

[Chris]

I've never seen that. I mean, I've watched all the Barry Sanders highlights, but that's about the only thing I think I haven't seen Barry Sanders do was do that. So I wasn't mad at it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I was on the other side of the field, and I saw it, like, obviously after the game, but I was looking at the scoreboard, and I was like, holy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Did you guys happen.

[Big Cat]

How many times you guys watch it and film?

[Chris]

Oh, so many times it's like, how'd you see this? But now it's crazy, man. And he's a lot of fun. He's a great locker room guy. He's loves golf. I don't know if you know, he loves golf, and that's all he wants to do. So really, the first day he came in, we all went. A bunch of guys on the team and went golfing, and it went from there.

[PFT Commenter]

What's his game like that day?

[Chris]

He played pretty well. There's times where he struggles. He gets super critical of himself, and he comes back the next day like nothing happened.

[Big Cat]

What do you get you guys this year? What Jalen get you guys?

[Chris]

They got us. Nice watch.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Chris]

They got us the golf carts.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the golf course. That's sick.

[Chris]

Yeah, sick.

[Big Cat]

You got it. You got it at the Bro Barn. How's the Bro Barn doing?

[Chris]

It's doing good. Baldies in there. Deadlifting about every Wednesdays and Wednesdays.

[Big Cat]

Awesome.

[Chris]

So Sean comes over there a lot. Sean Brady, he trains a lot. So during the season, like, I'm not. I'm in there sometimes, but mostly I'm at the. You know, working out. But my trainer, Gabe. I don't know if you. Gabe wrangle. But anyways, he trains a bunch of guys in there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like Baldy watches more film than most coaches.

[Chris]

That's all. He. He loves it. He's like. He's like Gruden.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

He's like one of those guys that. He's not going to watch the weather. He's not going to watch Netflix. He's watching Outside Zone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, coming up with nicknames for guys. The. With the Saquon hurdle. Did you go up to him the first time you saw it on the video board? Were you like, dude, you just jumped over that guy backwards. Did you?

[Big Cat]

Like, that's what I'm saying.

[Chris]

Like, I know in the past I would have definitely. I think I dapped him up, but I probably just went to the bench and just sat down and like, I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

Glad he's on our team.

[Chris]

Yes. Because I was on the other sideline a lot when he did that. I remember his first time we played him. The first time we played him in New York and he had a hurdle over one of our guys. And I was going, he could be pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good call. Good scouting. We have.

[Chris]

That was a good. Yeah, it's a good scouting moment by me.

[PFT Commenter]

There are some. Some NFL analysts out there that said that Saquon was not a top tier running back going in the season. What would you say to those people?

[Chris]

Put your name to where your quote is, buddy. I hate the anonymous. Just say it. Hey. Who you work for?

[PFT Commenter]

His name's Stephen Che. He works in sports.

[Big Cat]

He said don't draft him because he's only had one season in his career that he's gone over a thousand, one thousand and five yards. And I don't know why he picked a thousand and five. Makes me think maybe he had a couple seasons where he had a thousand and three, but then he had a thousand yards more than that.

[Chris]

So now he's got two or three thousand yards.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So this is also the same analyst that said that the tush push should be banned.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that he hopes that Jalen Hurts gets injured during the choice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Well, when I can't find my car keys, you know, after 20 minutes of searching for him, hey, I kind of agree with him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you. When they call it or you're just like, oh, here we go again. But you know it's gonna work.

[Chris]

No, not when they. It. It's like when you have a Washington go line situation that rocked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And they're just jumping over.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, jumping.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we.

[PFT Commenter]

We saw a loophole.

[Chris]

No, it. It is fun. But if you do get rocked or sometimes where you just.

[Big Cat]

Do you like, though, watching other teams try it and fail because you're like, this is. That's. I think the. The. The part that people miss is like, people say, oh, we want the tush push band. No one does it like the Eagles. Yeah.

[Chris]

Well, like, mulatto is really good. I'm okay at it. But like, it really starts like the center, the wedge. And having guard like Landon's. You've seen Landon land. It's a monster.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Makai is a monster. And. But I feel like Brady was really good with it with the Patriots.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was really like Josh Allen. They were doing. The Bills were doing it. They were getting stuffed.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You gotta watch out for Chris Jones.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Big stick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yes. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I don't speak much.

[Big Cat]

No, no. The.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Landon just got lower than everybody.

[Chris]

Yeah. Like I said, after I show you this video, I'll show you him getting about as low as you can get.

[PFT Commenter]

So when. When Frankie Luva was Jumping over. And he. He was doing it a couple times. What was he saying after. After he would let.

[Chris]

Hey, I'll tell you what. Like, they. They'll talk something to Lyman, but it's mostly like everybody has their fuse going, and, like, the DBs and receivers, they got their own fights out there, and I don't get to hear any of the conversations. And then, like, the running back, Saquan, Frankie, him, Bobby, like, they have their own dialogue going in the game, so. That's a good question.

[PFT Commenter]

What would it. Yeah. If. If the refs had said, we want to award you guys a touchdown, would you have done the honorable thing and say we decline. We'd like to settle this on the field like men.

[Chris]

I decline that. I like to sell it with a new, freshest, fresh new set of downs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe if you do the same penalty, like, four times, we'll give you the first down.

[Chris]

Go change that in the. In the rulebook in the new cba.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we asked you this last time before the super bowl. What color Gatorade do you guys like to drink? Just curious.

[Chris]

I like the one with all the red threes in it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Chris]

I'm trying to get them all in me before RFK gets it about here. That goes for the reds. It goes, I guess for the purples.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Max]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But typically on the sideline. What's in that cooler?

[Chris]

Yeah, what is usually, like, I think, lemon, lime. Oh, yeah, Usually.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very clear, though, as well. So there's just water?

[Chris]

Yeah, no, there's definitely water. Then you have Gatorade, and then you have. Thing we called leveling. It's like. It's a hydration specialist. They put, I guess, more salt in it.

[Big Cat]

But if you were to, like, grab one. Yeah. The game and, like, dump it on someone, would you do, like, the lemon lime?

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, that's what's going to be on the cups. I'm not sure what's going to be in this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, Big Cat brought up all those great stats about you and. And your illustrious career.

[Chris]

You give me some blue Kool Aid mix or whatever. I can make it blue for you. I'll go. I'll go do that.

[Big Cat]

Make it a color no one's ever seen.

[Chris]

We can't even identify this. All bets are off.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I. I told you this when. When we were texting, but I have a. I was texting along a wrong Lane Johnson number.

[Chris]

How long?

[Big Cat]

I think it was. It was a year. It was January 9, 2024. So. But the reason why I. I thought I was still texting you is it started with. In January 9, 2024, I released. Well, my computer released the power rankings. Okay, so there's computer power rankings. The Eagles were in the super ass category.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And you replied on Twitter, dang, bro. And I was like, he's pissed at me. I don't want Lane Johnson pissed at me. So I texted you, and I said, thanks, Brian. I was like, I didn't think you'd see the power rankings. Maybe the start of the championship dvd. And the person replied, this is no longer Lane's number. And I was like, oh, he's just fucking with me.

[Chris]

He's an asshole.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he just doesn't want to reply.

[Chris]

He's salty.

[Big Cat]

And then. And then it went on where I was just, like, texted you some more. And then on. On NFC championship game, I said, congrats, seeing Noah. And I sent you a video of Max spitting on the camera. And the guy. And the guy just replied, this is not Lane. And I was like, wait a second. He. I've just been texting the wrong Lane Johnson. And then I texted Chris, and he was like, yeah, he's. He had a new number a year ago, so.

[Chris]

Did the guy identify himself?

[Big Cat]

No, he's just not lame.

[Chris]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Does the guy. He must get a lot of texts for Lane.

[Big Cat]

He must.

[PFT Commenter]

If he's ready.

[Chris]

I just brought a son of a. This is the last time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right?

[Chris]

You're gonna ask.

[PFT Commenter]

Send him a picture of Lane.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I will. Hey.

[PFT Commenter]

Having a lot of fun talking to you right now, Lane. Work my name.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna send him a text right now and be like, time hanging with you.

[Chris]

They didn't put Lane on. They put David Johnson, my first name.

[Big Cat]

So.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think I'm a fake.

[Big Cat]

All right, here, Just. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna text him right now. I'm gonna say, great. Great time hanging out today.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, your first name's. Your first name's David.

[Big Cat]

Great time hanging out.

[PFT Commenter]

First name's David.

[Chris]

Yeah, they probably spent about two minutes thinking of that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

No, no, my dad's David. His middle name is Earl, and so they. They built mine up a little bit with Lane, so.

[PFT Commenter]

Lane Johnson is a much better name for an offensive lineman.

[Chris]

Yeah. David Johnson would have been 1970s.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, 1980s. Yeah.

[Chris]

That's an oil field name.

[Big Cat]

So have other people. Have other people said they've been texting the wrong Lane?

[Chris]

I got about 500 messages. I don't it is the biggest stress.

[Max]

But you.

[Big Cat]

It's so funny because it's like, normally that happens where people have to change numbers, but the fact that it happened right after the power rankings, and I was like, oh, he's fucking with me. No, it's just pretending to not know who I am.

[Chris]

It's happened with. With some friends, and they're like, you. I've been trying to get a hold of you for two or three years, and you don't ever reply. They see me and they're super pissed.

[Big Cat]

I love it. I love it. I just was like, damn. I really up Lane Johnson's mad at me. Turns out it was just some random dude who I've been bothering, and he's still mad.

[PFT Commenter]

So when Big Cat's computer released those power rankings, you were actually mad, though. Like, super ass is not good.

[Big Cat]

Not good.

[Chris]

I don't know if you're gonna air this, but I don't run my Twitter. I don't have the password or. So all that stuff is beat Brian Brackey, my. My marketing guy. So he run. He actually runs that as me.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so Brian was pissed at me, huh? Brian was pissing me with the dang. Also, he.

[Chris]

He understands traction. He's trying to get it be a part of the algorithm.

[Big Cat]

In defense of my. In defense of my computer ranking, he's in the matrix. In defense of my computer rankings, you were. You guys were. The computer said super ass, and then you lost to the Bucks in the first round. Like, the computer was right.

[Chris]

Right. Last year, dead ass.

[Big Cat]

You guys contenders all year this year? Last year, the computer was right.

[Chris]

Yeah. No, the only time I, like, gotten mad with art was a couple years ago. Like, ESPN was like, he gets credit for being a noisy player. So for the whole next year, I didn't talk to the media once. Luckily, he didn't find me. But I didn't say I didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

What does that mean? Noisy player.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

He gets credit for talking a lot.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if you're in the media, you should want guys like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like ESPN should want.

[Chris]

Well, I didn't think I was. I mean, yeah, I talked a lot of. Way back in 17 when I made some stupid comments.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, that. By the way, we'll have your. We made those comments. You got screwed by us. It's a testament that you still come on with us. Because I. We played that back. We basically said, like, isn't it more fun to play for the Eagles? And then everyone just took it and we're like Lane Johnson would rather win.

[Chris]

One super bowl six years later, whatever it is.

[Big Cat]

So that was our fault.

[Chris]

I'm sorry about all the nasty things I said. Patriots nation. I was an undisciplined child who. Whose tongue got the best of me.

[PFT Commenter]

Even if you had said that, what's the big deal with saying that? Like, we had fun.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, they probably had fun, too, putting the rings on. But I don't know, it was my. It was probably because the first time we've. We've done it. And who's this guy to say anything about having a championship mentality when all he has is one?

[Big Cat]

I, I.

[Chris]

Hey, we still only have one.

[Big Cat]

Listen, you know, I want.

[Chris]

I had to eat some crow, but, hey, so, you know, it didn't taste too bad.

[Big Cat]

It was our fault, though. If I want a Super Bowl, I'd just talk for an entire year.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd probably retire if I was a rookie and won a Super Bowl. See you.

[Chris]

Yes. Yeah, until you get home and your meemaw's there. Damn, those bucks beat the out of you.

[Big Cat]

Big cat's computer was right. You're super ass.

[Chris]

This woman. I'm going back. I'm playing next year.

[Big Cat]

You're not retiring after this game. That'd be fun. Well, not funny, but if you just waited till, like, preseason game one and then retired.

[Chris]

That would be funny. It's just. Yeah, you got to let the guys upstairs know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So coming in this year after being super ass last year, when did you realize that you were no longer super ass?

[Chris]

Probably after about four wins after we started. Two and two. But those games, like, you know, the Falcons game was very close. One against Washington was really close there. So, I mean, everything was really competitive for the most part, but we found a way to get out of our own way and hand the ball to Saquon and score some touchdowns.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And that Bucks game at the end of September, you guys, I think that was the last time you guys lost a game that Jalen played the full game. Like, so you guys ripped off a ton of wins. Whereas, like, yeah, now they're healthy, they're ready to go.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's part of it. And, you know, other. Other parts of the season. I mean, you don't know what you don't know far as running play wise. So you got to see what the team's most, you know, comfortable running. And after a few weeks, you kind of find out, you know, what you're doing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Is there a moment in a game where you just know that, like the defensive line is so gas and you're like this fucking rocks. Like, I.

[Max]

They're.

[Big Cat]

They're done. They're cooked.

[Chris]

Yeah. When we're running it, like, especially like four minute, we're trying to run the clock out. We. They know we're running it and we had to get a new fresh downs so we can, you know, nail it or take it down. So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What was that? Was it the Steelers game where you guys had the ball for like.

[Chris]

Might have been. Might have been a Steelers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 14.

[Chris]

But it was a battle. I mean, TJ's out there just fucking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, bringing hell on earth. But their whole. I feel like that game physically was probably the most like tired I was all season.

[Big Cat]

You guys ran a drive that I think was like 15 plays, 11 minutes.

[Chris]

But we actually do the ball a lot that game too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So we were. Yeah. You got Cam Hayward and her big and Highsmith, so pretty good. Yeah, really good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I went back and looked at some of the stats because we always talk about Dan Campbell as being like the fourth down guy or Dan Quinn too, sometimes. It's like the Dans are known for being super aggressive in fourth down.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Your coach, Nick Sirianni is right up there with anybody and he actually, if you look at, when he goes for it, I think he's secretly a nerd. I think he, he knows, like, he's got the analytics, he knows the numbers and percentages. So, like, does he communicate that to you? Like, here are the exact scenarios where we're going to end up going for it?

[Chris]

Yeah. Well, I think this analytics, their purpose is to be there for those when those calls come up. So I feel like they do a good job communicating, especially when the calls up. Headset. Hey, let's go. Let's make that decision. Sometimes it's risky, but, hey, that's what makes it fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, and it's got to be until you lose.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, and you can also do the tush push twice in a row if it's like third and five.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just do it twice down.

[Chris]

We should do it first down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think, do you think you go up and down the entire field just to push? Like if you had to. If you had to.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's say aj, he, like, he rotate.

[Chris]

The guys in, just doing a line, just a rotation. But yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I feel like you could if you had to ball, start a tush push.

[Chris]

Bow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

That's all you can do.

[Big Cat]

That's all.

[Chris]

That's all you can do.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I told you before the backstory of this video. I'm going to play you. We went out to dinner on Monday night.

[Max]

All. All.

[Big Cat]

Like a bunch of people. I took a bunch of people out. 25 of us in a room.

[Chris]

25 bar.

[Big Cat]

People. Yeah. Yep. Two women.

[Chris]

It was a big moment.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was a big moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Two women.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, two women. It was a great ratio. So we had. We played a game where we put everyone's name in a hat and we pulled the names out, and if your name got pulled, you had to give a speech. And we did this for, I don't know, probably like nine or 10 people first. Nine people, like, all their speeches really heartfelt, like, love barstool love. Like, this is a dream job. Love everyone in this room.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just real nice stuff.

[Chris]

Just pouring their hearts out.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right. We're all a little drunk. Sappy stuff. Then max is the 10th person, and he decided to just give a pump up speech for the Eagles. So I want. I want. I want you to. I'm gonna play it, and then you tell me how you feel about Max's pump up speech.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

However, every single person could say that they were bested by Patrick Mahomes.

[Max]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Every team in the NFL could say that.

[Memes]

However, it only takes one night to beat Patrick Maho.

[Big Cat]

Why not this Sunday night? Yeah, we have the better trenches. We have the better running back. Yeah. We have the better defense. At the end of the day, defense wins championship. All right, so Sunday night.

[PFT Commenter]

We will.

[Big Cat]

Fight, and the Philadelphia Eagles will return as super bowl champ. Let me get a Goldberg. This is a room full of people that don't care about the vehicles to.

[Chris]

The room that hates the Eagles. But I thought it was crisp. There was no stutters. Yeah, it was right to the point a little bit.

[Memes]

I was rambling. I was rambling.

[Big Cat]

It's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought the pauses were good. He's like, we got the better trenches.

[Big Cat]

And then people were like, amen.

[Chris]

He was educating them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. On Sunday night.

[PFT Commenter]

And he didn't. He didn't know cameras were rolling or anything. He was just where he got the hand gestures from.

[Memes]

I'm an Italian guy.

[Big Cat]

I'll send you the video. So if you want to play. If you want to play it for the boys. Boys, on Sunday before the game, I'll.

[Chris]

Have Brian retweeted from.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Max felt like he was playing in the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

No, no, I'm. I'm. This week is a work week. This week is a week to Win the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Business trip.

[Memes]

It's a business trip, but, like, Sunday is the business.

[Chris]

I feel like they should do like, for each team, if there's like a two point conversion, they should have some random fan called out of a section. You have to be the tail back and you're getting the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I like that.

[Memes]

I'm in, I'm training.

[Chris]

So everybody, everybody can kind of be on watch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know.

[Big Cat]

All right. So, Max, you got a question?

[Memes]

Yes, I have one. Or I have two questions, actually. First question. You've been mentioning him a little bit today. I. I've been wondering this. What makes Coach Stoutland the best coach, Best offensive line coach in the NFL? Because I feel like he's getting these guys and he's like resurrecting careers here in, in Philly that other teams just aren't doing.

[Chris]

Yeah, he knows. I mean, obviously he knows football in and out, but I felt like he's interested in like how people learn. So he knows that like we learn visually so we can accomplish like a lot more. Doing like walkthrough stuff versus, like a 30 minute walkthrough will beat a two hour, you know, classroom section, you know, covering Charles Dickens, tell two cities type. So that's how it seems to me. And he makes. And so he understands that. But he's just really. When we go in there, it's like pop quiz time. Every time he asks guys, what three plays do we have out of this formation? Fred Johnson. And he'll. He asked the question and he points out who he's going to ask it to after. But that's like every day. And he's like, yeah, we're going to find out who knows this in here. Hey, I guess we are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Seems like the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Good question.

[Memes]

All right, second question. How does Brandon Graham look in practice? Is he going to be full go on Sunday?

[Chris]

He looks good. He looks like. What's the guy in, in Scary Movie three that passed the mashed potatoes with that arm? Hey, he'll be jabbing. He'll be club ripping with that thing. He's ready to go. All right, I know. He used it on me.

[Hank]

Let's go.

[Chris]

I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that feeling.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Memes]

That's all I got.

[Big Cat]

All right, good job, man. And then. Wait, hold on. You know, I'm gonna try to call the fake Lynn Johnson real quick. Let's just see. It'd be so funny if you picked up. We'll cut it.

[Chris]

God damn it. I told you, son. This ain't him.

[PFT Commenter]

You Want to leave a message?

[Big Cat]

No, he's. He's definitely. I feel like he hung up on me there.

[PFT Commenter]

Or send him a voice memo. Yeah, I used to have that number and come back for it one day.

[Big Cat]

All right, Roback question. Last question. Rhobac.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rollback.com promo code take. We got our guy Ron here. Roan, get up here. Get up here. Get up here, Ron. So Ron and Max are going. They went together to the Super bowl in 2022. They going again on Sunday. Hopefully you'll see them later that night. We already. We already told Big Dom, hey, look out for him.

[Max]

So I overextended myself in a similar way that Max did, and I sent you a DM.

[Big Cat]

On Sunday.

[Max]

I'm going to read it out loud, brother.

[Chris]

You don't have. You don't have my number either.

[Big Cat]

You are a beast.

[Max]

What you're able to do day in and day out is legendary. Others rise and fall. You are the mountain. Year after year, you are that. No one wants to see you impose.

[Big Cat]

Your will be great sponsor will not fall.

[Chris]

I like that, man.

[Big Cat]

That was awesome. When we're doing this interview, you just realized that you just sent that to Brian.

[Chris]

Funny story, I guess Grant, we both went OU for a little bit before we went to smu, but he was, I guess, hitting me up that summer about, you know, can't wait to see you in Philly B. Teammates or whatever. So I guess Brian, like, texting him a few times back and forth. First day you come in the. In the locker room, I just breeze past him like, who the are you? He's like, bro, you're a dick. I was like, what the are you talking about? Same situation. Hey, it haunts me. Here it comes again.

[Max]

Well, the only question is, like, how did that. Did that land? Do you know what I mean? Did you get fired up from that? What kind of stuff do you like to hear from fans that fires you up, you know what I mean? How can we serve you? Yeah, we do whatever you want, bro.

[Chris]

What do you like, man? I see. I see everything you said is passion and all that energy and hopefully some. So in some way it can radiate to me and it can. I can use it for the benefit of this Eagles team.

[Max]

Yeah, I'm just trying to put some battery in the back. I'm just trying to put some gas in the tank. But my. My X's and O's question is so you look at the Lions this year and you see the crazy installs that they do. They have like, penny, so we'll get in the ball and stuff like that. As an athletic guy, is there any part of you that's like. Like, hey, it'd be cool if I. You know what I mean? We get a swing pass to me, or are you just happy, you know.

[Chris]

Better be at the goal line for that? No, I. I would like to have. Where I could just launch this across the field to AJ and hopefully it's not into a safety that's going to pick it. But you used to play quarterback. That's what I'm saying. I would love to just like, I missed my last shot and just. And just fling it.

[PFT Commenter]

You still got the cannon.

[Chris]

Yeah, it was. I don't know what they call it now, but if I can. And we'll see.

[Max]

I'm ready for it, bro, if you do it.

[Big Cat]

Let's go. I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

I like. I like calling him a mountain. Stands the test of time. Mountains don't go anywhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Have you seen what they've done in China?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, well, Lane, best of luck, man. We really appreciate you coming on.

[PFT Commenter]

I hate how much I love the Eagles. Like, they're. You guys are great. I. I have to hate you.

[Chris]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

But you and Big Dom make it very difficult.

[Chris]

Hey, Big Dom. Yeah, he's got to get in this chair.

[Big Cat]

No, we're coming. We're coming for. So you can't retire because we're coming for training camp. We're gonna do grit week. We're gonna get Big Dom on. We'll all go out to dinner. So we're pumped for that.

[Chris]

He's the best. Like I said, he's. Yeah. He's been in years of obscurity, but. Yeah. We known about this national treasure for.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Does it. He's got a stack of cannolis in his. In his office.

[Chris]

His office has. If there's an earthquake in Philly, he's fucked because he has just. All the. Just history of the Eagles on the wall in his office. Everything.

[Big Cat]

Cannolis everywhere.

[Chris]

Canolies. Yeah. Everything they send, they just pile his desk up with.

[Big Cat]

Have you ever seen him not in a tracksuit?

[Chris]

No.

[Big Cat]

He said he had a hundred. He said he just paired it down.

[Chris]

I've never seen his legs. Hey, hey. This mother. This could have steel legs like Lieutenant Dan and I wouldn't know because I hadn't seen them.

[Big Cat]

They said.

[PFT Commenter]

He said 131 tracksuits. He's got formal ones. He's got casual.

[Chris]

In a track meet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, is he. Is he. Is he throwing the shot?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he said he was like, I cleaned out my closet. I'm down to 131 tracksuits.

[Chris]

He actually said he went to Penn State originally. Yeah. So.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And so he was the ball player himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, Lane, best of luck, man. You know, really appreciate you coming on. Future hall of Famer.

[Chris]

Yeah, man. Hey, let's get a win, man. Yeah. Let's make this weekend complete, man. Man.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, man, this is the tiebreaker for you.

[Chris]

Yeah, man, it's the tiebreaker. It's, you know, just like I said, the roan. Hey, we got to get this energy going and.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Lfg. Let's go pump you up.

[Big Cat]

Ron will. Ron will get you going, and we'll.

[PFT Commenter]

Send you the max.

[Chris]

Send me a. Don't send me another text, but just text it to Brian and get my number from Big Cat. Now you get my wrong number from Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'll give you the wrong way.

[Chris]

Let's go pump him up some more.

[Big Cat]

This guy's gonna be so mad. All right, well, thanks so much.

[Chris]

Lee.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

He's East Mid East Midi. East Mid Eastman.

[Hank]

What happened to Beast Mode?

[PFT Commenter]

East Me. Well, he got rid of the B and the. Oh. So he's just east mid. The scissor lift reminds me of. Did you ever see the injury cart? That bar Sean drove around?

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Ghost ride. The Whip Classic. Yeah. He was in college. They won that game. He celebrated. He hopped on the injury card, took it for a little spin across the field. Fast and the Furious. So check it out. Let's see what Marshawn's going to do next. Check out Marshawn Lynch's Instagram and find out for yourself. And now, here's a good friend, Jameis Winston.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Recurring guest. It is Jameis Winston live and in the flesh in New Orleans, his city. Can we say New Orleans is your city? It is.

[Max]

We. We can say that. My family, definitely.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. So you still got your house here. It's going to be incredible super bowl week. You're doing some stuff for Fox, which I'm very excited to see, because it feels like we need more Jameis Winston in our life. And you're going to give it to the people, I'd assume.

[Max]

Absolutely. We're gonna have some fun, but it's just gonna be showing people the culture of the amazing New Orleans. Like, it's gumbo. Gumbo is popular here for a reason. I'm gonna give them a little bit of everything, but I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying to eat 15 gumbos.

[Max]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

In the time that I'm here. So I've already had one. We're leaving on Friday or Saturday, so I'm trying to figure out the best places to go. So if you got any recommendations, like, lay them on us, because I love gumbo.

[Max]

I had to put a list to you, but if you. One of my favorite spots is B spot. It's like Beyonce inspired. I gotta get the street for you. But if you're gonna be having 15 gumbos, like, we gotta make sure we get you cup sized.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Because they're very filling. But I think with. With anybody, Herb saying as well, when I think about food, but when I think what anybody say, like, what can I get the best gumbo? They're gonna say my grandma house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'll eat at a grandma's house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because any awls that have a grandmother that. That actually will sit down, make the room.

[Max]

I got. I got a cousin on the west bank, and she makes the. The best gumball I ever had. So I would definitely get you a bowl because she knows that super bowl is a big wheat, and it's Mardi Gras season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

So a bunch of gumbo being made right now.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, we're very excited for you because this is a great thing I think, that Fox is doing, is bringing Jameis Winston on. So you're going to take people around, show them some food and things like that. What other stuff are you going to do this week? How are they going to be using?

[Max]

Well, for the most part, it's. It's going to be like a bunch of lifestyle pieces. I'm just going to get a chance to show everybody the culture that New Orleans has. Like, we going to go to Cafe Dumont and we're going to do a nice segment there. Like, when you think about coffee and beignets, you think about that spot off the rip. So what I'm, what I'm doing, I'm giving them the best human experience they possibly can have in the city of New Orleans.

[PFT Commenter]

I believe that you will be able to do that.

[Big Cat]

Yes, absolutely. All right, so let's, let's talk about this past year when we've last had you on. You were a free agent, signed with the Browns. You get to play. We thought you should have played more. How, how was this season overall in your career? I mean, we, we need you get signed somewhere. We need you to be a starting quarterback because the Jameis Winston experience is our favorite thing. You had that big snow game that was so much fun to watch. How overall, though, would you say, like, this season went for you personally, professionally, and where you're at going into next season?

[Max]

Let's start with personally, just because I think, like, I can get sometimes so wrapped up into what I do that we kind of speed past the whole experience that you actually had, the presence of actually being in the Cleveland Browns organization, witnessing some of the things that I witnessed, going through some of the things that I went through. So personally, I would say that it was a season of resilience because we had some unfortunate injuries. We had some people that I poured myself into because my expectations going to Cleveland was to be there to serve DeShawn and be there to provide this support and leadership for him. And it hurt to see him go down quickly. And then the way that people reacted of him going down like me being the person that I am, I had to recalibrate some things and have a complete paradigm shift because of the love that I have for him and also the love and respect that I have for the game and that city that I just chose to go to. Right. So that was challenging because football gives us so much. I mean, shoot, it's giving me everything that I can even dream or imagine. But that moment where I had to get just real, like, from a human experience with, like, some fans, the people that I love the most, the people I like making smile, and that just hurt, because we all are humans. We all have this experience. We all have ups and downs, and I think we all are trying to find a way to cope with those days. And that day wasn't a good day. And that was kind of like a precursor to the season, you know what I'm saying? Because what I was looking forward to was getting that opportunity, being back on the field. And we had some wins early, but at the end of the day, I didn't finish. I didn't finish the way that I wanted to finish. I didn't have the story that we all wanted at the end, so that's how I was personally. But the whole process of being with Cleveland Browns was amazing because this was the first time my family got up and moved out of the south, right? So we were in Cleveland, and Cleveland was way more than what. Way better than what we expected. Obviously, we knew it was going to be, like, gritty. You know, we're gonna see a lot of iron and steel. But being from Birmingham, like, I figured that that's how the terrain would be. But the place that we stayed was. It was in Chagrin Falls, man, in, like, beautiful place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, bro.

[Max]

For a good 90 days, we experienced some of the most beautiful weather.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

That you only could imagine. So it was good for my family in that end. But football wise, man, I'm still focusing on eliminate one thing from my play so that I can be all that I'm capable of being in this league. Yes, I like the new personality stuff. Yes, I like hopping on with y'all. But where I want to be in this league is somewhere where the greats stand. And for me to be where the greats stand, I have to consistently execute and eliminate one thing from my play. And. And that's. That's just fun. That's. It's. It's another resilient side to, like. Like, hey, man, like, you got Lasik now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, what. What. What else. What else do we have to do? What else do we have to learn? What else do we have to overcome and. Or. Or take out for us to be everything that we want to be?

[Big Cat]

Lord, deliver me from pick sixes.

[Max]

And the Lord did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. I was gonna say. Were you? So you. You said that after a game where you had I mean, I think it was one or two pick sixes. It was the, it was the Monday night key.

[Max]

Yeah, it was true.

[Big Cat]

And then the next game, you didn't throw a pick six. Were you like, oh, shit, God, God, he's got me here.

[Max]

Absolutely. I know he, I know he had me off the rip. When I, when I say that publicly, that, that outward confession, like, like that really was like a. Obviously it was funny, but it was, it was a cry. I was like, lord, like, hey, like, I need you stop these pics. Like, you know, and unfortunately I should have. Honestly, that's why it's so important to be impeccable with your word, right? Because I, I should have said pics.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know, because he gave me.

[Max]

The P. And I promise you, in my quiet place, I promise you, I'm saying pics.

[PFT Commenter]

But he works in mysterious ways. Maybe just makes you better at tackling. So when you do throw an interception, you knock the guy out, he doesn't score, you're like, I, I should have specified.

[Max]

Lord, I'm sorry, bro, I'm tired of tackling. You know what I'm saying? I didn't have to tackle too many people.

[Big Cat]

But that game, was that also, I mean, that game, like, that was like, we should have James play Monday night football. All time quarterback. It was electric. I know that it was the pick sixes, but you also made some insane throws. You had what, 500 yards?

[Max]

Yeah, I'm grateful for that. But you know, Sean Payne was on the other side. A young bonus Knicks from Alabama. Like, he was the opposing quarterback like in, in my documentary. Like that was supposed to be the time where I'm like Michael Jordan standing right there. Because I got Sean Payton a young buck that I always love. Watching him grow up. I mean, he, he was in Alabama, he won, he won a state championship. I never won a state championship. Being from Alabama, seeing him go to Auburn, he was the kid that went to the hometown school, got to experience all this stuff and went off to Oregon and, and now he's having an amazing year. So I'm just like, well, I gotta show this young buck a lesson, you know? So I'm happy that he had, you know, he had a game like he had that rope to Mims down the middle of the field. So I was like, okay, I want you to do something good. But we also, we got Jerry Judy back coming back to this time, and Sean Payne's on the other side. Like, I want to give it to them. You know what I'm Saying pause. But I want to make sure that we win this game, you know, But. And that's obviously the love and the preparation that goes into that. Like, you obviously can see that competitive side between me, Sean and boy. But I think winning is the biggest thing. Like when you at quarterback, I think that's so important. Like, yeah, you have some turnovers here. Yeah, you have some ups and downs. But eliminating negative plays and winning, it takes you so far because, man, I had the best four weeks of my life just talking to more people, you know, getting those interviews just because you're winning, not because you're having lights out games, but winning.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, record, James, we'll talk to you whenever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it doesn't matter. You go 17, you're on the show 100%.

[Max]

No, I'm grateful for that, but you know what I'm saying, Like, this is my dream.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know, like football, like football is. I'm so grateful that God has given me this sport to steward with what I got, you know, And I want, I want to be the most at it, be the best at it.

[Big Cat]

Lord, deliver me from pics.

[PFT Commenter]

That Thursday night game that big cat brought up in the snow, that was a lot of fun to watch too. And seeing it was. I forget, was it Tracy Wolfson? It was somebody that was interviewing you in the pregame and they start talking to you about the snow and you were locked in, very serious. And then all of a sudden it's like something hit you and you just got this big smile and you started looking around at the snow. It's like you got transformed and turned into. I don't know if it just took you to a different place mentally where it woke you up, but watching you just embrace that environment on that Thursday night and go out there and play an excellent game of football was so much fun for America to watch.

[Max]

Yeah. You know, I have to commend the NFL for their deal with, with the broadcasting networks to have that segment now because that was relatively new to me. Like, typically, like when I go back into the locker room, like, I'm getting ready, I'm focusing on, I'm going over my notes, I'm going over my plays, and I'm putting myself in the place that I think that I need to be for this game. So when I was having those interviews with Tracy and others, like, I was already getting to that place. I was already getting to that place of just presence and preparing for the game. So for me to come back out and just be like, okay, now I gotta talk about who knows what you're gonna ask? Like, I already know what. The notes that I'm going over in my head, so I'm gonna repeat those to you because that's the mode that I'm on. I think I rewarded them with some wise words.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was great.

[PFT Commenter]

So you'd never played in the snow before in your entire life?

[Max]

Never in my entire life.

[PFT Commenter]

What was it like?

[Max]

It was fun. Like, I think it's like any kid that experiences snow for the first time, like, you don't know what to do. Right? Like, you really don't know how to build a snowman. You know what I'm saying? You want, like, I'm happy YouTube is available, because that was one of the first things. Like, I didn't know how to build a snowman. Like, it was awful. Like, because I tried to build the snow while it was fresh. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's a story for another day, bro.

[Big Cat]

You gotta pack it in. Yeah.

[Max]

Literally, like, I was so enamored with the snow that I was just like, man, can I just. Like, do we have to play? You know what I'm saying? Like, can we play a snow? But we did. We did play a snow. Best snow version of football. But, yeah, it was amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

It was so, so, so cold. Your helmet exploded.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was crazy.

[Max]

My head hit the ground.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Frozen tundra fro. Not the frozen tundra, I guess, but the frozen Cleveland Browns.

[Big Cat]

Browns. Wait, so did you. Did you build the snowman?

[Max]

So let. Let me tell you about the story about the snowman. I actually didn't even build the snowman in Cleveland. Oh, I built the snow in New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

You did. When it snowed here.

[Max]

Snow here. Right. So during Cleveland, when it. When it snowed, like, I was away from my babies. My babies were like, they were at school. We didn't have time throughout the day where it still was light weekend. You gotta go outside and build the snow. Right. But God bless us with snow in New Orleans. So I'm outside there trying to build a snow, and my kids. Oh, my baby. He's suffering because we didn't have, like, the. We had all of our waterproof material up in Cleveland. We just got him some gloves from Costco, and we just, like, these are gonna work. Work my portfolio. Like, he out there shivering in the snow because he's trying to. We obviously having a snowball fight. Like, the instance. We're gonna have this. But the snow. Like, these aren't waterproof gloves, so they're freezing his head. So after one good snowball fight, like it's the Winston's, like, we in trouble, right? So we're. So we're trying to make the snow. And right now, like, I just. I'm just making a whole circle in the snow. I'm just like putting snow together. But it was like a blizzard snow. It wasn't like. Yeah, it had stopped. Like, typically people build snowmen, like when it's. When the snow stops and the snow hardens up and you can like, get it on the ground. So I'm trying to build this snowman and I just did an awful job. And it rained in Alabama. And my assistant Nadia, she showed me a picture of her snowman. And like, she had like my trainer, my famous trainer, Otis Leverette, his wife, the one who does all the position specific workout. So he had. They had his football helmet on, like, had like a glove on, like a stick that they had. They had like one of her scarves on. So it was a good looking snow, like, snowman. I have to show y'all this so y'all can have this clip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So I was looking at my snowman and it just looked like a snow heel. Like, and it just kept like, it was just not good.

[PFT Commenter]

You put eyes on it?

[Max]

I did put eyes on it. So my. My cousin again, she. She gave my wife, like. My wife went over to get some gumbo because she prepared us where she was like, you can't be in the snow without no gumbo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So she went over there get the gumbo, and she gave us a fake carrot nose and some things to put on the snowman because she knew that we were gonna build a luxurious snowman. She didn't know that I had no idea how to build a snowman. And I'm calling Nadia. I'm like, Nadia, like my babies, they gonna laugh at me because I don't know how to build no snowman. YouTube, I got this, this Wi Fi not working. I can't look it up on YouTube. Like, chat GPT ain't working. So I'm just like, I'm gonna build this now. She said, just build a ball and just roll it in the snow. Do you know I was. I almost had frostbite trying to roll that ball in the snow because it was too soft. It kept coming off and I couldn't build a snow. And my child, he just looking at me like my oldest Malachi, he just looking at me like, dad, I can't even tell my friends I can build a snowman because you don't know how to build a snowman. I'm like, well, you supposed to be helping. All right?

[Big Cat]

So you gotta. So that's something we gotta still check off the list.

[Max]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Maybe if you get signed. So what are we thinking?

[Max]

Where.

[Big Cat]

I mean, there's gotta be people who want Jameis Winston. You have to stay in the league. You have to. I want you starting.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You need to start.

[Max]

Yeah. What. That's what I. That's what my heart desires. Like, I'm. Obviously. I'm looking for opportunity where it's kind of like bridge opportunity, where I get to go in there, lead another young guy and, man, go in there, have opportunity, dominate. Where I'm supposed to dominate. Win some football games and have a GM and have an organization. Hey, like, man, we believe in you, James. Like, but I need that opportunity to show that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Because that's why I feel like I'm in that position again where, like, man, I have to get in that position and show that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because I, like, your game is not. You know, there's a lot of backups in the league where they come in and it's a lot of checkdowns. It's a lot of, like, hey, we're going to just, you know, try to tread water.

[Max]

You.

[Big Cat]

You push the ball down the field, you're making the throws, and that's always what's so fun when you get in. Like, I even think about that Ravens game where you're throwing the ball downfield and you beat a really good Ravens defense.

[Max]

Right.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Max]

But that stuff that I do, I can do in my sleep. The biggest thing is winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I. I try to shift away from the interceptions because, like, those matter, but those also accumulate to not winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So whatever I need to do that's required to win and be focused on winning, if that's going 20 for 28 for 17 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions. But a win, like, that's doing it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know, whatever is required for us to win the game is, like, my focus, because obviously, I get hyped up and I place so much trust into my teammates, into my coaches, and we're out there executing this thing together. But at the end of the day, the quarterback position, I got the last say, so with that peel in my hand.

[Big Cat]

Do you. Have you thought about, if you do throw a pick, maybe bringing back the squint and being like. People like, oh, the lasik maybe isn't working anymore.

[Max]

It gives you.

[Big Cat]

Buys you a little Time.

[Max]

Yeah, well, I try to eliminate any thoughts about picks.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

You know what I'm saying? And focus just on winning every single rip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Max]

You know, like, because I tried to create humor with the picks. Right? Like, hey, like, it's still a completion. Yeah, not really.

[Big Cat]

Well, listen, I. I just played the video game, which I brought up to you last time, how I might have thrown some picks with you when I played the video game back in 2020, but I just played a full college football playoff and I threw nine pick sixes in four games.

[Max]

Well, yeah, well, not with me though, right?

[PFT Commenter]

We're eliminating that.

[Big Cat]

No, not with you. Not with you. But I'm just saying, like, still won the national title, so you can still find a way to win.

[Max]

You can, like, but it's all that matters is winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

And that's you playing the game. So, like, maybe when, when you playing the game, start visualizing me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

And record me doing that. Winning the National. Winning the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

With that Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

We gotta do the Super Bowl.

[Max]

That' that's what got me because I won so many Heisman trophies, so many national championships on ncaa. When it was out, you know, I never really played. Maddening.

[Big Cat]

Gotta get it. We should start playing Madden, like literally visualizing it.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll record the entire season.

[Max]

You better ask my wife. Like, I got Madden.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, and I'm visualizing and like my brother is whooping my butt religiously and Madden every time I get on the sticks.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you thought about doing the VR thing? Virtual reality, man.

[Max]

So I've experienced that what Jaden.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Was doing. So I, I experienced that. I'm curious to see what brand he had.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a German company.

[Max]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know the name of the brand, but they, they found him at Louisiana.

[Max]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They were trying to sell their technology to any school that wanted it. And LSU was like, yeah, we want this. So I don't know if it's like an exclusive thing that he gets. I, I don't know what it is, but it seems like it's a great idea.

[Max]

I remember when, like, when I first got to the Saints, I believe they tried to bring that to us. And like they talked about building. I think they were gonna build a room for that because they had it, they had it in Louisiana. But we should have did at lsu. We should have did it. Yeah. But I believe at Tampa we did an experience like that where I did have some virtual reality related training at Tampa early on in my career. But I'm sure That the. It's better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would love to see what kind of training exercises you can meet them up with while wearing the virtual reality helmet too.

[Max]

Me too. At Cleveland, we had some. Some type of virtual reality type sensors, but it was not like I wasn't immersed in the game. It was just like take mobile players moving around like slow motion.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna get you on the good stuff.

[Max]

Like, this is not gonna work.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're a German VR company. Listen to. Right now you have a potential client here in James Winston.

[Max]

Whatever's required.

[PFT Commenter]

We were talking to Andrew Luck earlier today, and he had very nice things to say about you. And he asked us to ask you about how close you were to going to Stanford.

[Max]

Man, I was. I was very close to going to Sanford in my mind, right? Like, Sanford was the dream school that I've always thought that I would be at playing baseball and football. Because you just think about John Elway, right? So academically and football, athletically, I thought that was the epitome of going somewhere and playing football. But I knew that I could not be that far away from Alabama, you know, so Stanford, Florida State and LSU were. Were my options. Like, they were my final options. I wanted to go to Texas. I feel like Texas, like, like Texas Longhorns. I feel like that would have fit me well. Like, I even had like this. My mama got me this Fossil Texas watch because I told her that's the school I wanted to go to. It's cool. I still had a watch to this day, but back to Stanford. Stanford was. Would have been an excellent opportunity for me because Nora Davis was there. Andrus Pete, Aziz, Shazur, he was there. So I built some great relationships with. With some of the recruits that still were there. So I really was close to going. If I would have had the courage to take that trip out west.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Long distance to go for sure.

[Max]

Well, it was like more of a dream. Like, when I went out there on my official visit, Coach David Shaw was there. I got a chance to speak with Condoleezza Rice. Like, the experience was unmatched.

[PFT Commenter]

What was that like, talking to Condoleezza Rice?

[Max]

Well, it was. It was amazing just to get a chance to know that she was from Alabama. I didn't get a chance to have a meeting with her face to face, but having to be able to speak with her and hearing them talk about how her office had only looked some place on the campus, I think that was amazing.

[Big Cat]

How was the. Were you injured at the end of the year? We just kept on being like. Like, put Jameis back in. I know that the last couple of games, they gave other guys a shot, but how is the injury now?

[Max]

It's good. I did something to my SC joint, and that's kind of like my inner collarbone because of the callus of my AC joint. I require movement from there in a way. So for a period of time, it was very challenging for me to throw the ball. And if you can't throw the ball. Elite in the NFL, it's just.

[Memes]

Just.

[Max]

It's not really gonna work out. So. So it was. It was kind of. It was after the Kansas City game. So I'm. I'm good now. Like, I can. I can spin it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So. Yeah. When does that happen in the NFL? When do. When do teams start to reach out to you?

[Max]

I. I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to get you in trouble.

[Max]

I think. I think the period is going on. Not now, but I think as they're. As agents are talking about other prospects getting into the league, especially the draft, senior bowls, the strong bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

I believe they, like strategically placing in some of their free agents for this upcoming year. But I believe it starts. But when. When you really released, like, the first part of March.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'll just say some cities. I think we might have done this last time. Yeah, but just. Just cities. Random cities. And you tell me what you think about each city. New York City, or I guess northern New Jersey, but really New York City.

[Max]

I mean, I love it. The Big Apple.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You look. Is it. Is it big? Is it giant? Is it the giant apple?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Would you fly there on a jet?

[Max]

I love it. I. I would do. I would do both.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That actually would be awesome. If you were.

[Max]

I would fly on a jet. Apple.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Italian, you know, at that.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Pittsburgh? I know they were kind of, you know, rival city to Cleveland, but what about Pittsburgh?

[Max]

What's your vibe there, Man? I love Pittsburgh, you know, because I admire coach Mike Tomlin so much. You know, the first super bowl ring that I ever held in my hand was a 2009 Pittsburgh Steelers super bowl ring from Bruce Arians. So that is definitely aligned with my vision. But. But I don't know. I don't know what my Browns fans would say about Pittsburgh. That'd be challenging. But, you know, it really doesn't matter. Honestly, that opportunity presents itself. Yeah, I would love. I would love to team up with coach Mike Thomas.

[Big Cat]

What about. And I know we want you to be a starter, but there are some teams that it Feels like maybe they should invest more in a backup. What about Miami? Like that city, man, I would love.

[Max]

I would love Miami. And you know what? But again, back to my whole Cleveland Brown story, right? Just how it was. Like, how about Tyler Huntley? I'm just gonna give him a shout out, man, because he was with like that was the quarterback room in Cleveland. Tyler Huntley, Dorian, Thomas Robinson, desean and myself, right? That, that was a training camp. And for him to have a situation where he and Dorian are competing and to stay present and go back to Baltimore and then go to Miami, where he from, down South Florida, that area and play some good games for Miami. I'm so proud of him for that. But Miami would be good because I got a lot of respect for Tua and his family. And if it's one man that I would like to serve, it would be him and his family because his dad and my dad have developed a great relationship. So I'm definitely pulling for him and his health to remain, to remain strong and to remain in a healing state because he works a lot to stay healthy. Yeah, like, and he's a tough, he's a tough player. So he gonna be good. But I would like to go to Miami.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what about.

[PFT Commenter]

How about Nashville? Country music guy?

[Max]

Nashville, man, listen, I do, I do love country music. Like back to the days when Jake Owen and Luke Brown used to come and visit Tallahassee. Like I've always had that, that southern drawl. I'll be able to, to break down the country music album soon.

[PFT Commenter]

But you would make so much money from CMT if you were in Nashville.

[Max]

You think so?

[PFT Commenter]

You would be a correspondent. Yeah, immediately.

[Max]

Man, I would love it. Nashville is, it's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What about playing baseball, man?

[Max]

If, if I can get Colorado Rocks signed up, man, I gotta call my guy. David Dahl, like he played for the Colorado Rockies. But wherever.

[Big Cat]

Have you thought about like maybe doing a spring training? I know that you're. That kind of conflicts with, you know, where you're going to sign, but I'd love to see you back on our baseball.

[Max]

Yeah, I would love to have that opportunity. But when my focus is focused on, you know, football and OTAs and whatever's required in that, I don't believe that I will be able to. But man, like, like I can just go to the band cages like somewhere down to the Yankees in Tampa Bay. Yeah, like, and just hit some BP there.

[Big Cat]

Did you know, have you done like batting practice against like 95 mile an hour fastball since you got Lasik, have you. Do you?

[Max]

I have not.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you might. What if you're just. What if you're Barry Bonds and you.

[Max]

Don'T even know it, man? I'm definitely not Barry Bonds.

[Big Cat]

But what if you're a righty?

[PFT Commenter]

You might be. You might be Shakespeare. Better, like, if he was also a great football player.

[Max]

So I trained baseball last year. My brother's head coach, his name is. Man. It's removing right now, but my brother's head coach, who is a scout for the Atlanta Braves. We actually trained for the first five weeks in after the Super Bowl. Every Thursday, we hang ground balls. We were over at Gerard park in New Orleans, hand in the cages, like training, like catching fly balls, feeling ground balls. Because I think that is a direct correlation to playing the quarterback. When you see how Patrick Mahomes does it and Josh Allen, how they come up from these different angles. Even Jalen and his wing, his RPO games. Being able to throw from different angles is so important. And being able to squat down and move around the pocket. You see how extending the play is as big as it's ever been in the NFL nowadays. Like, if you can't extend a play, like, from a regular routine play, like, you're gonna have a tough time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What about. What about right here? New Orleans?

[Big Cat]

Got a house here.

[Max]

Oh, my gosh. I would love to be here.

[PFT Commenter]

Just family.

[Max]

Not. Not just family, like just this city, man. You know, And I. And I. That's why earlier, I didn't say it. I. I don't feel worthy enough to say this is my city because this is this Drew Breeze city. You know what I'm saying? That's true.

[Chris]

That's true.

[Max]

Because what he did for this city with this champagne. Champagne city. This is Mickey Loomis city.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know what I'm saying? I had put making out there because, Mickey, if you listen to this, I will. But no, like, I would love. I would love to be a New Orleans saint, man. Because, like, just. Even the energy here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, it just. It's the same energy that I. That I possess.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know, and. And I love. I love my people. So I ain't gonna say, you know, my. They might feel like these my people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Down here. And then you can it. You gonna definitely see it on fox. You'll see me with my people, in a word, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

With.

[Max]

In the words of some. A Baton Rouge legend with me, you know what I'm saying? I got my people with me.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you. Do you Visualize where you're going to be next, at your next stop in life. Like, do you sit down, close your eyes and let the vision come to you?

[Max]

Man, I'm still, honestly, my vision, my visualization and desire is still with being a Super bowl winning quarterback for NFL franchise, you know, and that's where there are times where in my quiet time where I think about, you know, what my heart would desire. And one of those things right now is just becoming a better father to my children. My oldest is about to be seven now, and me and my dad always discuss how the age of seven would be that time where I would have to bunker down putting more intentional time into to lead my children, lead my son to what his heart desires. Because he felt like my aunt, she always told me that the age of seven is when the kids, they lose their subconscious and they start to really take in every word that you say and they start making decisions on their own. So when I'm in my quiet time, that's the things I'm thinking about. Like, man, how can I serve my son who's about to be seven, because I know it's his own time. Like, I can't be like when he cry. Like, I can't be like, oh, baby. Like, like I'm gonna be pushing him to the limit, you know, but also loving him and guy him. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But is that true about the age seven?

[Max]

Yeah. I mean, I know there are a lot of pediatricians out there or people that process this information.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

The age 7. I don't know the scientific term, whether they lose their subconscious, but seven is a prominent age for child development. And in terms of how they think, how they learn and how they go about.

[Big Cat]

So I got like another year and a half that I can keep swearing around my oldest.

[Max]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay, then I gotta stop.

[Max]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Because I do. I do find myself having to.

[Max]

Well, you just gotta develop a swear jar.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, my problem is my, my kids, when they repeat swears, I laugh.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then they're like, very funny laughing. I'm like, because you shouldn't be saying that. And then they're like, he's laughing. So then they, they keep hitting the or the button and I'm just like laughing. I'm like, no, stop saying that.

[Max]

My wife would be mad at me because she did an experiment to just see how, how far our children would go with, with those words.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

And, and it wasn't, it wasn't the experiment that we thought that we were going to be getting. We realized that our children, they do listen to us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My son thinks stupid is a bad word. He's like, don't say the S word. I'm like, he's like, no, stupid. Oh, whoops. Right now we got two that we got to work about. Right? All right, so. So we gotta find you a job. Here's an idea. What if Jameis 1 of 1 became your agent? I think you'd probably get a max deal, man.

[Max]

Listen. I don't know Jameis101, but I really appreciate him. The time he's fighting every day, the work, the energy that he puts into, like, repping me. Like, if you are my long lost cousin or something, man, Brother, I love you.

[Big Cat]

I do. Imagine one day you'll meet him and he'll just be like, hey, I'm genius 101.

[Max]

I know I am. But this is. I feel it. Like, you gotta have people that fight for you. Yeah, like that. Like, and, and, and. And I view it from a terms of just my prayer angels. I have so many women in Tampa. Miss Connie, my. My. My mentor. Got Cynthia Hob, my auntie, Aunt Vonda, my mother, my aunt, my aunts. That's Loretta White, Auntie Bernice, Auntie, like my. I have so many prayer warriors that are showering me with prayer, lifting me up all the time. So I don't want their prayers to go as they're unnoticed. But when you have people that fight for you and that lift you up and that are there to encourage you in your toughest times and are consistently doing it, like, man, you just got to get them they flowers and you got to be grateful for them because you don't know how much their energy or what they're doing is actually keeping a lot of things away from you and provide a better opportunity for you in some way, shape or form or fashion.

[PFT Commenter]

And then in turn, you don't wanna let them down because you know that they have this deep belief in you and you're like, I gotta prove them right. If anything, you know?

[Max]

Absolutely. And proving them right will only just do it more justice for the fact that, like, man, that's your people. You know what I'm saying? You.it doubles down on. It's bigger than you. You know, what we do from what I do from an NFL perspective, from a father perspective, from a husband perspective, is small to the grand scheme of things, of the impact that I can have on lives everywhere across this entire world. Right. Obviously, within my household, like, that's the most important thing right now. How I go within how I'm doing, treating my own family is how I'm gonna go about doing the rest of the world.

[Chris]

Right.

[Max]

Because what I want for myself, I want for everyone. But I think it is important when you are around people that are giving you positive energy to just give them their flowers and be grateful for them.

[PFT Commenter]

You impacted Big Cat and myself when we did those drills with you. Keep the ball high. Yeah, I think about that all the.

[Max]

Time, because that was our dream, y'all. I always wanted to be there on that arena.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So what are you. What are you doing? You got any new. Any new workouts that you've been working.

[Big Cat]

Like a dog that's gonna attack you or like some.

[Max]

No, no, no. No dog is.

[Big Cat]

There's been dogs.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There was a Belgian Malinois, my dog.

[Max]

My sister.

[Big Cat]

She.

[Max]

She is one of my best defenders, and she's not going to attack me.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

Right. She just.

[Big Cat]

But you have had dogs in your videos. The big ball. What was that thing, the machine you were running in that was like. It was like a big. I don't even know what it was. You got so many crazy videos out there.

[Max]

Well, it's intentional.

[Big Cat]

These are. I like it.

[Chris]

I want.

[Big Cat]

I want your. I actually would love for your trainer to come up to our office in Chicago and send us through something.

[Max]

I know you would love that, but I don't know if you're ready for it. I'm ready for it. I don't think y'all ready.

[Big Cat]

All right. So does he have anything new this year, you think?

[Max]

No, we. We don't. We don't have anything new.

[Big Cat]

That's such a lie. I'm gonna. We're gonna see a video in, like, a month.

[Max]

It's gonna be. It's gonna be new to the world. It would not. It would not be new to us. We. We don't. We don't function in surprises. We don't. We don't function this in, you know, in conspiracies. We just go. We just put the work in and we lock in and do what. What's required to. To be done.

[Big Cat]

Is there ever a day, though, that you show up and it's like, you know, maybe it's, you know, the backyard, and it's like, there's a bat. There's, like, boxing gloves. There's, like, a bunch of towels, and you're like, what. What's going on here? What are we doing today?

[Max]

So if. If you want me to get you a picture.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Of that exact setup. I can give it to you.

[Big Cat]

I got.

[Max]

I gotta. I got a heavy bat right here. I got. Got a Bosu ball in the middle. I got a trampoline right here with some towels on there, and I got some boxing gloves and a half round.

[Big Cat]

I need that picture.

[Max]

We got to get you that picture. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How often do you work out? Do you work out like five days a week?

[Max]

So in the early process is just three days a week. In the early process means like directly after the season, toward the super bowl when I get the opportunity to play in an extended long period of time. I'm continue to do what I've been doing in the season. But three days, three days a week, sometimes five. If I'm just like, man, like, I gotta get it. You know what I'm saying? If my. If I didn't got a big stomach just sitting around.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta watch what you eat.

[Max]

Yeah, absolutely. So after the season, like, I really. I really. I eat what I want. Yeah. For the most part. And once I got here, it being Mardi Gras season and King Cakes opening up on my birthday, you know what I'm saying, On King's Day, and I got a granddaddy that always wanna give me praline and stuff like that. Like, it's just too much. Too much good food.

[PFT Commenter]

When's your birthday?

[Max]

January 6th.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

January.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday. We missed it.

[Big Cat]

We're January guys as well. Yeah, our birthday was last week. Yeah.

[Max]

Well, happy birthday. Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, 30th. He's the 31st back to back.

[Max]

And my cousin birthday is my favorite cousin, the 29th. I can't forget y'all birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

There are gonna be some other cousins that listen to this, that think you're talking about them. That's not my birthday.

[Max]

Everybody know I'm talking about Tay Tay. Everybody. All my family know who I'm talking.

[PFT Commenter]

Ok. Why is Tay Tay your favorite?

[Max]

I think what he has overcame, man, when we grew up, he was always the person that people didn't mess with. But in terms of school, he was always misunderstood, whether it's from grade school all the way up. And I took just a leap of faith because he had numerous medications to like, hey, Tay, when I go to Tambolite, man, you coming with me, like. And actually it ended up like this. It wasn't like you coming with me. It was more like, hey, Tay, you come on down here, spend a good time in Tampa.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Then Tay ain't want to leave. You know what I'm saying? And then I was just like, man, nah, you deserve this. You deserve to experience this with me. And like, man, he doesn't take all those mans that he's been taking, man, he's. He's finding him a job. Like he has a one bedroom apartment. Like, he's living a life that, that a lot of people would have never thought that he would be able to live through sustaining himself. That's awesome. So I'm just proud of him. And that's why I'm a firm believer, like, you never let people place limitations on you, right? There is a right situation for you, There is a right scenario for you. But as long as you continue to desire that, no one trying to place that hold or that lack on you can stop.

[Big Cat]

Shout out. Tayta.

[Max]

I appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

Hey, I got a random question for you.

[Max]

Happy birthday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Happy birthday. Who'd you vote for? For the Heisman?

[Max]

Who did I vote for? Well, I voted for Shador first. No, he was, he was, he was on there. I voted for Travis and I. I voted for Cam Ward. That's. That's who I voted for. No, no, no. Order. But I know Shadur was. He was just high on my mind just because of what he has encompassed with throughout his whole collegiate career. And it's similar like to Bo. You right, because I got a chance to be in the same state as Bo and see him show up. But we all got to witness like Shadour's maturation process, even when Dion was coaching the high school team in Dallas. Like they had a TV show back then. Because I'm. I mean, I know Prime Time is some of y'all favorite athletes out there. So just all he encompassed as like his whole collegiate career, we got to see it. And he never played a bad game. All he did was ball. You know what I'm saying? He had a few losses here and there, but he balled out for the most part. So I had to make sure that he got him a trip up there to New York. I don't know if he did, but I'm glad Travis won. I'm glad Cam Moore had the year he won it. I just wish he would have went to Florida State with this stuff is crazy.

[Big Cat]

Probably good that he didn't. That was a bad season for Florida State. At what point in the season were you like, oh, man, I never.

[Max]

I never lost faith.

[Big Cat]

You should have.

[Max]

I never. I never lost faith. I just. I just refused to text anybody back that was talking to me about Florida State.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, did you hear about the guy that wouldn't eat the dog poop?

[Max]

He Would.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you did this. This is why. This is where me and big cat lost faith.

[Max]

Florida State.

[PFT Commenter]

He said he would eat poop if Florida State lost to Georgia Tech in Ireland. And.

[Big Cat]

No, it's Boston College, second week. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They were like 17 point F. So they lost week one in Ireland, and then they were 17 point favorites week two. I think there was that Monday night game, and he was like, if we lose outright, I'm gonna eat. I'm gonna eat dog poop. On camera. Camera. And then he didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he didn't deactivate. Left the Internet. And then. Yeah, just loss after loss kept piling.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's why your season went so poorly.

[Max]

Oh, my gosh.

[Big Cat]

He should have eaten the dog.

[Max]

He shouldn't have said that he was gonna eat dog poop.

[Big Cat]

But don't you agree that he should have eaten the dog poop?

[Max]

But don't we all agree, like, when we're walking our dog, like, Tussie just did this today and she sniffs other poop and bites the poop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

I'm just like, why did you do that?

[Big Cat]

Like, she's probably trying to get Florida State back on track.

[Max]

She. She. She did it for the nose. But I'm just saying, like, do we not think about that with our dogs?

[Big Cat]

Like. Like, I'm on the lips.

[Max]

You know what I'm saying? I'm in your face, and I just witnessed you eat dog poop.

[Big Cat]

But for the record, you think that guy should have eaten the dog poop, right?

[Max]

I think he definitely should have stood on business.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Max]

I think he's definitely should have.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man. We didn't ask you about this last time. We were. We were, like, getting to know each other. And then after we got done with the interview, you said, I thought you were gonna ask me about the crab legs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So we didn't do that last time.

[Big Cat]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

But I feel like now we have to. We've always had your back, by the way, on this. There's never been any judgment coming from us.

[Max]

No. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

To the crab leg story. But if you want to. If you want to speak on the crab leg story and educate people about the truth behind some misconceptions.

[Max]

I just want to educate everyone about the new addition of nil and the things that it allows our young athletes to do or not to do. And before nil, if you did anything illegal, you would get suspended, you would lose your year of eligibility, and your career would be over. You know, So I don't condone anything bad happening from a collegiate athlete. That was done between 2016 through before that, you know, but when Nil started, a lot of opportunities and doors that were already open were reopened with the birth of a collective saying, we gonna give you money to do that. You know, so that is the best political way that I can put that situation. But, you know, I am grateful that the crab legs have provided me with so many opportunities to talk about crab legs. Get crab legs thrown at me. And you know what? Get free crab legs from Fulton Fish Market.

[Big Cat]

There we go. There we go.

[Max]

That's the biggest thing you would have.

[Big Cat]

Made so much money in nil.

[Max]

Oh, my goodness. Like, that crab leg thing would have never been like, oh, my gosh. Like, I would have had so many crab legs.

[Big Cat]

You would have been living in crab legs.

[PFT Commenter]

You think back to, like, Ohio State and the huge scandal, the massive scandal. It was the biggest story in sports at the time because some guys got tattoos, right? They got free tattoos for giving their jersey to somebody. And that was the only thing that we talked about for, like, three months. And if that happened now, it's like, not. Nobody cares at all. Nobody would care. And the same thing, I think with the crab legs, it's like, okay. By the way, there are worse things to be thrown at you for the course of your life than crab legs. Yeah, crab legs are delicious, but I.

[Max]

Can eat them in my uniform. It's not really fun to be thrown when you walk into the tunnel, you know? Crab leg. Oh, I'm hungry. Thank you, Lord.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So we. We hope you have a long, fruitful NFL career. We hope that you fulfill your dream of being a starting quarterback, winning a Super Bowl. Hope all that happens. But when the time comes to hang them up, I predict that you will have a massive podcast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hopefully a partial sports.

[PFT Commenter]

Hopefully. Yeah. But if. Yeah, if not you, we have to be invited on occasionally because we're. We're going to need some shine from the Jameis Winston podcast.

[Max]

I don't think people that me and.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cat are still out.

[Big Cat]

You better at least call us.

[Max]

I want to give y'all. Yeah, like a lot of people talk about, James, you should do this. You should do that. I don't think people know about the sweat equity that you guys put into this, that your team puts into this. Yeah, obviously, big names can get a mic and say their opinion, you know, but the intentionality and precision that you have, the thought of y'all. Guess what y'all doing, what RC Is doing with the pivot like, it's unbelievable, and it's really changing lives. You know what Jay Shetty's doing with own Pro? Like, this is a new wave that our fans are able to really get the quality information that they need from what they want. And y'all do that with the best of them. If not, y'all gotta be the best, because that's why I came on here first. Appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Max]

But nah, man. I don't think people know the sweat equity in the team that you gotta have to produce something great. Like, yeah, I can get a mic, but I wanna be great, you know, I just don't wanna do this just to be able to have y'all on the show and say, hey, you know, I had, you know, big cat and pft on, like, what y'all. What y'all think about that? You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

I'd listen to that. Not even with us. I'm just saying how you intro that. It could be anyone. I'd listen.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I just watching film. You've been studying podcasts.

[Max]

Well, I've been studying y'all. Right. Because y'all are great. Right? And I think that's one thing that a lot of great people do. They study greatness. So if this is one avenue that I decide to take, like, y'all are gonna be a part of it, because y'all great.

[Big Cat]

You better give me a call. I listen the Fox thing, I'm happy for you. I didn't like that I found out on Twitter because I was just like, I just. When you do decide to hang them up and you're like, this is my next career, just give us a chance, okay? Give us a chance to make an offer.

[Max]

Well, thank you. I'm. I'm grateful that you.

[Big Cat]

You and Gruden in a podcast together, the Elite.

[Max]

I'm happy to say that online.

[Big Cat]

Gruden, oh, my gosh.

[Max]

That really mean that you care about me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, I need. I need to get. I need to get a call. Being like, it's time. And then we just. We hit the button. Jameson Gruden, and it just go to the moon. Oh, James Strap in.

[PFT Commenter]

James Gruden and Fred Smoot.

[Max]

Oh, man. Do you know one of the first football camps that I went to was Sam Shade and Fred Smoot?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did he talk in kids?

[Max]

He did, but that put something in us. And another fun fact. Me and my wife was at the same camp. Oh, that's crazy. So it's. That's how destiny work, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, nothing is done by coincidence, the fact that we sit here again on the pre Super Bowl Sunday, you know, and with a beautiful background, beautiful cast, like nothing is done coincidentally.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you say you. You met your wife at Fred Smooth's football camp?

[Max]

Oh, my gosh, please don't put that out there. No, I didn't.

[Big Cat]

She just happened to be there as well.

[Max]

No, she. She was a camp.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay. Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

So we are here for the Super Bowl. Max is. If you talk about, like sweat equity that you put into a podcast. Max has been sweating this entire week. He's very nervous. Give us a preview for the game.

[Max]

Man, I'm. I'm in a win, win for this situation because we, we're. We're witnessing Patrick Mahomes do something that we haven't really witnessed be done from another quarterback this early on in their career. So I'm so proud that he is executing to the level that he' executing with his team. And we all get to witness Travis Kelce have the most beautiful, popular woman in the world win the super bowl with them. I think that's amazing as well. Just a storyline, just what everything the NFL encompasses, I think that's amazing. But we also. I grew up a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Right. I've always admired Jalen hurts and what he does from the quarterback position because I think a lot of people shortchange him. And what he does and what he does is he does the most important quality of a quarterback, and that is to win. So I'm excited to see him step onto this stage. Him being four hours down the road in Houston, Texas, this being a home like game for him, you know, two Texas boys with their second matchup together in the dome. The city of life, the city of resilience. Will Jalen make the most of his second opportunity? Will the king rise again? And how was the halftime show be this year? Yeah, like, how about.

[PFT Commenter]

How about that when Drake tried to sue, he tried to sue everybody to make them not do not like us. Yeah, he's gonna play that song, right?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, man.

[Max]

You know, I'm a huge Kendra Lamar fan, but like, I, I think, like, I don't want. I want to know what y'all opinion would be about if Lil Wayne brought the culture of New Orleans and all the artists in New Orleans and perform. Because most of the fans there at the super bowl, like, they're not. They probably not Kendrick Lamar fans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know what I'm saying? They probably not Lil Wayne fans. But I think understanding the culture and experience of this city, what Lil Wayne would have been able to do. I know Kendrick is gonna rock the house. I know that for a fact. But I think, like Lil Wayne, he wanted that super bowl experience to be back home.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a no, I'm a no limit soldier.

[Max]

Yeah. You don't die. Yeah. That's all.

[Big Cat]

We keep rolling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, I know.

[Max]

The block would have been hot for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

It's going to be a great performance. I kind of agree. I like to see a little bit of the local flavor wherever they're at. Like when it was in Los Angeles, that was incredible what they did there. It would have been. It would have been cool. But also when. When not like us drops, it's going to be the best.

[Max]

People are going to like that. I think that's definitely the most popular song. Song that we've been accustomed to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like that's. That's Summer Heat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know, but I don't want no beef with any of them. I just want. I just want my franchise quarterback opportunity.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

To be the winning quarterback that I'm capable of being.

[Big Cat]

Yes. I love that. All right, so last question. Roback question. R, H, O, B A, C K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. I'm wearing it right now. Roback.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. So we said, Max, he's a die hard Eagles fan. Last time in the super bowl two years ago, he drank champagne the night before and he got a little ahead of himself. Can you give Max just some words, some James Winston words of wisdom on how he needs to act going into this super bowl knowing that, like, you can't lose twice to him. You can't have that happen.

[Max]

Max, I promise you, it wasn't the champagne that lost the game.

[Big Cat]

But it might have been.

[Max]

But Max, one Eagles fan to another Eagles fan. We gotta get this one. Okay? So lock in, do whatever's required for you to have the best day that you possibly can have. Okay?

[Big Cat]

He's not locked in. I'm locked in. I'm locked in. He drank champagne and lost his phone the night before the Super.

[Max]

Oh, you lost your phone?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, it was that time. Oh, my. My goodness. Well, please don't drink no champagne in New Orleans because I promise you, it won't be pretty.

[PFT Commenter]

He got sick all over himself in the back of a cab, too.

[Max]

In the back of a cab. Oh, my gosh.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, Jamis, you're the best man. Love having you on. And let's. Let's hope someone gives you that chance. We want to see you starting in the NFL. And when the day does come that you hang them up, you better give.

[Max]

Me a call, man. Thank you, brother. All right. I appreciate y'all.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

That's my favorite.

[PFT Commenter]

Strawberry Smash.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Having a few ice cold trulies here in New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

Shout out Truly for supporting the boys.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm very pumped.

[Big Cat]

Yes. So let's support Truly. All right. Let's do FAQs. Before we do that. It is the end of the show. So, Max, super bowl score update.

[Memes]

What was the last one I did?

[Big Cat]

How you're feeling right now? How are you feeling?

[PFT Commenter]

Minute.

[Memes]

All right. 3,000, 824.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

So that actually has got. So it was 3,224 on. On Monday's show. We're now. The Eagles have gotten better from Monday to Wednesday. They have gotten significantly better. I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

So what is that? Another touchdown misstep point?

[Memes]

Something like that?

[Big Cat]

I think it's actually. No, because 32. We got 32 from four touchdowns and four two point conversions. Yep. I think the Eagles just tacked on three, six safeties.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that. Yeah, I like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It was a safety fest.

[PFT Commenter]

Patrick Mahomes, zero awareness in the pocket.

[Max]

None.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, none.

[Memes]

Jalen Carter, just eating back there.

[Chris]

Eating.

[PFT Commenter]

Just eating.

[Big Cat]

How you feeling, Max?

[Memes]

I feel great. I feel great. I'm ready to go. I'm ready for Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Lane, it's only Tuesday.

[Memes]

We haven't. We haven't interviewed Lane yet, but I'm sure he was great. I'm sure he was dialed.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you read that article today? I think it was on MMQB about. About Italian culture. And the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Memes]

No, but it sounds like a good reason.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

They did not mention Max, but they mentioned, like four coaches on the team. How they all go to this one restaurant with this paisan that kisses them on the lips, sits them down. They yell at each other. But some people are like, oh, they're fighting. No, we're just Italian. Yeah, this is how we communicate.

[Memes]

Did they mention Big Dom?

[PFT Commenter]

They did. Big Dom was, was featured heavily in this.

[Big Cat]

Max should have been mentioned.

[Memes]

No, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Dom's father, bricklayer.

[Big Cat]

Love that blue collar. He's the best. Use his hands. All right, FAQs.

[Hank]

Long time listener, first time caller. Question for Dan and Eric.

[Chris]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's a bit familiar.

[Big Cat]

What government names, what tabs do you.

[Hank]

Generally have open for every show, Max?

[Big Cat]

The ads I have usually espn and it's usually like, like NFL standings because I just forget what every team's record is.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'll have one page that's open to some league standings.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Usually not the NFL, but I'll just have like the random NBA standings pulled up so I can remind myself, oh, yeah, the Rockets are somehow good.

[Big Cat]

And then I'll. I'll usually have Twitter because I've been starting to bookmark tweets that I want to bring up, which has been very handy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's smart.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'll have X.com the everything app, and really that's the only app that you need to have open. Open at any time.

[Big Cat]

It's still Twitter on my computer.

[PFT Commenter]

Bleep that out. Okay. Don't say the T word. Yeah, we. Yeah, I. I'll have the ads pulled up and then I'll have a Google Doc that has like links to the tweets and stories.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That I want to talk about.

[Big Cat]

Not a lot of stuff. Not a lot of high level stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Or if it's like a Friday show, if it's a preview show.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I'll put my notes.

[PFT Commenter]

I have my stats that are. That are pulled up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

DraftKings odds.

[Big Cat]

DraftKings odds. Yeah. Friday show will be. DraftKings will be all my notes. Notes. But I do like writing notes by hand. That's what I do on Sunday nights because I think I just, I absorb things better when I'm writing them down.

[PFT Commenter]

I also have flight tracker pulled up sometimes.

[Hank]

So have you got simulator.

[PFT Commenter]

No, not flight simulator. Flight tracker. My. My laptop doesn't have the gaming power to process flights.

[Big Cat]

You have to only place flight simulator on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's when there's A squadron event. I have to contribute to my squadron.

[Big Cat]

And he used to have a guy named KKK in the squad.

[Max]

Roger.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. I was. For a while. I was afraid that I had somehow gotten into a white supremacist flight simulator group. And that. That took some years off my life trying to think that through. Eventually the guy named KKK made him change his name.

[Big Cat]

Got it. Got him kicked out. Yeah. Pfd.

[Memes]

You told us you got him kicked out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you said you got him kicked out.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if he left or if he changed his name. Yeah, I. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I was like, that's my boy. He got him kicked out by way to stand up. You know, if. If you stand up even in the small spaces like your flight squadron.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That making a difference.

[PFT Commenter]

I took a stand. Yeah. He might still be a white supremacist. That is in my online flight community.

[Big Cat]

Just change it to White Lives Matter.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just undercover right now. Yeah. But. Yeah, that was a. I don't have that. Pulled up during. During the games. But you know that there's been that helicopter that's been flying real low this week. I think it. It was like flying over the Yak yesterday or flying over. Brandon Walker was pissed off about it, but I've noticed it a few places.

[Big Cat]

That's not saying much off about everything.

[PFT Commenter]

I looked it up. You know what this helicopter is?

[Max]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

They call it a nuke sniffer.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a radiation detection helicopter that's been traveling back and forth across the city of New Orleans every morning.

[Hank]

Just chill out, man.

[PFT Commenter]

It's scanning for nuke. Would you rather not have that?

[Memes]

Nah, dude.

[Big Cat]

I want the new.

[Hank]

Don't worry about it.

[Big Cat]

What are you doing? Doing?

[Memes]

I don't know. This is.

[Big Cat]

Do you think.

[Max]

Wait.

[Big Cat]

Can I ask a question that's mean. That might be an insult question. Can I ask the insult question? Do you think the nuke sniffers alarms go off when Max farts?

[Memes]

I knew.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good question.

[Memes]

I knew that was gonna come.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good question.

[Memes]

I knew that was coming.

[Big Cat]

Okay. What was this?

[Memes]

I don't know. Some of the conspiracy theory. So I was looking at Hank and doing this.

[Big Cat]

I would rather prefer the nuke sniffer to be out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's here. It's checking.

[Big Cat]

I. I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like it too.

[Hank]

There's nothing to be worried about.

[Big Cat]

What, you don't want the nuke sniffer?

[Hank]

Nah, there's nothing we're worried about, dude.

[Big Cat]

Well, we never said there's nothing to worry about. Are you.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, are you so woke and you're thinking that the, the helicopter is there to make us scared and make us think there might be your guys advice.

[Big Cat]

No, no, you keep it moving to our advice. No, the advice is the world is shitty and shitty things happen, but if.

[Hank]

You don't worry about them, if you.

[Big Cat]

Spend all day thinking about a bridge that collapsed six months ago, would I.

[Hank]

Don'T think about anything.

[Big Cat]

We know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just keep it moving, Hank.

[Hank]

Yeah, just keep living, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep it moving. If there's a nuke here, who cares?

[Hank]

Yeah, exactly. This is crazy. This guy should probably be arrested.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Hank]

I live in Philadelphia with three other diehard Eagles fans. We've been dealing with a.

[Big Cat]

That's the arrest.

[Hank]

We've been dealing with a rat issue out front and on the back patio with our trash cans, which we have to leave out there. If the Eagles lose, we decided we would massacre them to take our anger out.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yes.

[Hank]

How should we do it?

[Big Cat]

Don't.

[Hank]

It won't matter. Cuz we will win by a lot. And should we feed them a big meal if we win?

[PFT Commenter]

I think yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, of course.

[Big Cat]

Italian food.

[Hank]

Your thoughts?

[PFT Commenter]

Here's what you do. If the Eagles win, if the Birds win, you need to reward those rats, and they are your, your new God right now.

[Big Cat]

Party sub.

[PFT Commenter]

If the, if the Eagles lose, party sub out there, you just got to get some cats.

[Big Cat]

Rats. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And just let nature take its course. I don't think that you should, like, kill the rats.

[Big Cat]

Are the worst.

[Hank]

No, I know, but like, just saying like, thinking like a rat massacre, that's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Just, just, I mean, that's what they do every time they nuke the alleys in Chicago. That's a rat massacre.

[Hank]

But do they say, we're gonna go massacre these motherfuckers?

[Big Cat]

I mean, if you look at the signs, it says like, this alley has been like carpet bombed with poison. Yeah. So, yeah, I, I, I'm kind of okay with it. Rats suck. True massacre, though. Please take video and send it to us.

[PFT Commenter]

That implies that you're using your hands. I don't think that you should use your hands.

[Big Cat]

I think you should use your hands. I think that's the only way that you're allowed to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

If you can catch the rat with your hand and choke it out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Rats never tap hypothetical.

[Hank]

For Max, you're out at sea with Jason Kelsey, Big Dom, and Nick Foles.

[Chris]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Who you first.

[Max]

Oh, wow.

[Hank]

When out of nowhere, they're all captured by pirates. You Must choose one to set free, one to live out their years as the pirates hostage, and one to be executed on the ship.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Hank]

What will you do? Nick Foles, Jason Kelsey, Big.

[Memes]

So one to let free?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

What does that mean?

[Hank]

Let, like captured, and then they're no longer captured.

[Memes]

So I'm a pirate in this.

[PFT Commenter]

In this scenario, you're the spokesperson.

[Hank]

Your friends are captured by pirates. You're negotiating with them, and they said, you can set one free. One of us is staying with us forever. The other one's dying right now.

[Big Cat]

I think this is easy. I think this is easy.

[Memes]

Why?

[Big Cat]

I have an answer.

[Memes]

Give your answer then.

[Big Cat]

Jason Kelsey's a pirate. He was born to be a pirate. He would, like, probably enjoy being a pirate.

[PFT Commenter]

I think also if we just. If we got rid of Jason Kelsey, it eliminates competition. The podcast game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Nick Foles, you'd unfortunately have to kill Big Dom. You set free, and then he'll get vengeance.

[Memes]

Big Dom is. Big Dom was for sure being set free.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He'll get vengeance. Yeah. Yeah, he will find.

[Memes]

That was the only thing I knew the other. I couldn't figure out the other do.

[Big Cat]

We'll figure it out right now.

[Memes]

I think this is good podcasting.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Memes]

I don't want to answer this question. They're my guys.

[Big Cat]

I love all those guys. Answer the question.

[Memes]

I love all those guys.

[Big Cat]

You have to answer the question. Huh?

[Hank]

If you don't. If you don't answer them, they all die.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So I have to kill one?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're giving.

[Big Cat]

Not killing them.

[Hank]

The pirates.

[PFT Commenter]

Telling the pirates. Execute. Execute him.

[Memes]

But the pirates. That doesn't necessarily. They could beat the pirates.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[Memes]

I think Nick Foles is such a winner, he would just beat the pirates.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so you. So you're executing Nick Swoles, the one guy.

[PFT Commenter]

You think that Nick Foles would stand a better chance going toe to toe with pirates than Big Dom would?

[Big Cat]

Oh, I actually have his number. Should we call him right now and tell him that you executed him?

[Memes]

I didn't execute. Was he. I mean, he beat Tom Brady.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true.

[Memes]

You would have said the same thing about that.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, Tom Brady didn't punt in that Super Bowl. That's crazy, huh?

[Big Cat]

You just executed him.

[Memes]

I didn't execute him. I said I. I believe in him to be a winner.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Defy all odds.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good faq. Nick Foles, very frequently asked question.

[Hank]

All right, last one. If the Birds win, how much do you think Max is going to give Everyone. For finally being a champion while on pmt.

[Big Cat]

I actually don't think. I think he's going to be so happy with himself that he doesn't. I don't think he's going to be thinking about us that much.

[PFT Commenter]

There's nothing that we can say to. To hurt him in that moment.

[Big Cat]

I think it's going to be more like a residual thing, like two months from now. Aside, comments made, and he's like, super bowl champion. Like, that's where you're going to see it.

[Memes]

Two months, full year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not going to do back for like a year.

[Big Cat]

Two months. Like, I don't think you're going to come on. If the Eagles win. I don't think you're going to come on just, like, straight talking. You're going to be so happy about the Eagles, and then, like, in two months, there'll be, like, a random comment. You'll be like, I'm a Super bowl champion. I don't know what you're talking about, but, yes, that will last for a long time.

[Memes]

It'll change everything. Or it would change everything.

[Big Cat]

And what happens if you lose?

[Memes]

It's the same.

[Max]

We've been.

[Big Cat]

We've. Now.

[PFT Commenter]

It's worse. It's worse.

[Memes]

Why is it worse? It's just the same thing.

[Big Cat]

It's worse, but it's.

[Memes]

Again, I'm already looked at as second place guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it re.

[Memes]

And then it just. Yeah, that's it.

[Big Cat]

No, but you get even more second place.

[Memes]

Add another one to the tally. It's fine. Like, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

You're underestimating how bad it will be.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it'll be bad. I hope you win for your sake.

[Memes]

No, you don't.

[PFT Commenter]

You're right. I don't.

[Memes]

You don't at all.

[Big Cat]

I hope you win for my sake.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I hope you win for my sake.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Bad.

[Memes]

No, it'll. It'll just be. It'll be the same song and dance.

[Big Cat]

Should we cash out and just bet the cheese? No, No.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I. The one good part about the Eagles winning this would be Max just constantly shoving it in Hank's face all the time.

[Hank]

That's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Memes]

I wouldn't. Hank. Hank is my brother and my brother. And birds.

[Max]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Way to use your words there, Max.

[Memes]

Think of what I was. I was gonna say brother and arms and. I don't know. Brother and birds.

[PFT Commenter]

So birds. Yeah. Max, if. If you lose, it'll definitely be bad. I think it'll be worse. You're underestimating how bad it's going to be. But if you win, you're going to do that thing where you get so happy that you're angry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you'll be screaming no matter what. Screaming. But you'll be the happiest you've ever.

[Big Cat]

Been in your life, no matter what. Monday's show is going to be incredible.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Monday show is going to be. We'll just see. Okay. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. We got lottery ball. There was actually a. AWO tweeted me today, said that he's been. He's been guessing the number since the beginning of the lottery ball machine. He's never gotten it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy. Do you have anybody like that?

[Big Cat]

Well, memes. Listen, credit to Memes, he didn't guess it for the first what year. So this guy is somehow worse. This is Chris. CM, Marcia51, shout out. He said he had to come clean because it was bothering him. Him. For the entire history of the lottery ball machine, he has never gotten it right.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty crazy.

[Big Cat]

Let me know if you ever get it right, because I. I am now invested in this. So. All right, let's kick it to ourselves. Okay, Numbers memes. If you get the number during super bowl week, I mean, this is Max's week, but if you get. No, we've upgraded from Eagles week to Max week. Oh, okay. Max week. I like that. It's Max versus the Chiefs numbers. 80.

[PFT Commenter]

85.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna guess 2.

[Memes]

11.

[Max]

I'm thinking of players on the.

[Big Cat]

Come on, Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Eagles.

[Big Cat]

You're not gonna get it. All right?

[Max]

77.

[Big Cat]

You're never gonna get it. 30. 30.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you.