Final Four With Stanford Steve, Trouble In Paradise In Philadelphia, Picks And Preview For Saturday + Fyre Fest

Summary

Pardon My Take – "Final Four With Stanford Steve, Trouble In Paradise In Philadelphia, Picks And Preview For Saturday + Fyre Fest"

Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Max, Hank, Memes, Zach
Guest: Stanford Steve

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Episode Overview

This episode of Pardon My Take dives headfirst into Final Four weekend, exploring both the men’s and women’s NCAA basketball tournaments, current drama with the Philadelphia Eagles (specifically Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown), and the barstool hosts' usual blend of banter, sports analysis, and offbeat humor. The episode features an in-depth Final Four preview with guest Stanford Steve, fiery debates on NFL rumors, plenty of actual sports insight, and the traditional “Fyre Fest of the Week” segment to close it out.

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Table of Contents

1. Philadelphia Eagles Drama
2. NFL Headlines & Player Moves
3. Quick Hitters: Tiger Woods, Jaden Ivey, TV Ratings
4. Final Four Deep Dive
5. Interview: Stanford Steve
6. Fyre Fest of the Week
7. Notable Quotes & Moments

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Philadelphia Eagles Drama (04:10 – 17:10)

• Main Story: Tension surfaces in Philly after Jeremy Fowler’s ESPN article details locker room and organizational discord surrounding Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown.
• Discussion:
  • Hosts debate whether this is “just leaks” or an organizational campaign to sour perception and prep the fan base for a big move (possibly trading Hurts or Brown).
  • Max expresses concern:

    "There are some people in that still work for the Eagles...that authorized a hatchet job against their starting quarterback." – Max (06:24)

  • PFT suggests it's a "code red," referencing classic betrayal culture in Philly sports.
  • Memes clarifies play call controversy:

    “If you look on a lot of headlines on Twitter, it says Jalen Hurts made the call for four verts. He agreed to it, but he didn’t change the call at the line.” (07:32)

  • Big Cat’s take:

    “At best case scenario, you have some massive leak problems. Worst case, it’s a coordinated attack to justify moving on from Hurts.” (09:33)

• Philly Fan Dynamics:
  • Reflection on how Eagles fans rally against reporters, yet when a move happens, justify it after the fact.
  • Max on Philly fans:

    “They're at a crossroads...let's see what happens with Jalen Hurts.” (14:04)

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NFL Headlines & Player Moves (17:00 – 20:15)

• Kirk Cousins’ contract: Extended streak of fully guaranteed deals, setting an 11th year in a row milestone (18:00).

  “He has now made—if he plays out this contract—$343 million in his NFL career. Absolute legend.” – Big Cat (18:24)

• Kirk Cousins & Fernando Mendoza (LV Raiders): Emphasized as the NFL’s least “Las Vegas” personalities:

  “I feel like this is a very funny thing...but also in Las Vegas, the city that's like least—it’s the least Kirk Cousins city in North America.” – Big Cat (19:43)

• Oddball QB Room Discussion:
  • Suggestions for “wild card” third-string QB (Swag Kelly, Johnny Manziel).

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Quick Hitters: Tiger Woods, Jaden Ivey, TV Ratings (20:15 – 38:30)

• Jaden Ivey “faith healing” situation (20:18):
  • PFT with classic irony:

    “Far be it for me to tell him he’s wrong, like, try to play.” (20:39)

• Tiger Woods’ DUI footage:
  • Hosts briefly touch on the sad video, express concern for Tiger’s well-being.
• NCAA Tournament TV Ratings:
  • UConn vs. Duke game draws 19 million peak viewers.

    “People are watching. We are in a golden age of Duke choking.” – PFT (37:19)

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Final Four Deep Dive (38:30 – 81:30)

Men’s Final Four Preview

• Parlay Picks Segment (24:11): Picks for the weekend:
  • Hank: Arizona Moneyline over Michigan
  • Big Cat: Illinois/UConn first-half over
  • Max: UConn Team Total over

Key KenPom & Stat Notes:

• “19 of the last 21 champions had a top 10 KenPom offense—except 2011 and 2014 UConn. So the stat kind of is: 21 of 21 have either a top 10 offense, or are named UConn.” – Big Cat (26:10)
• Best Bald Coach in Sports Debate (26:44):
  • Hypothetical: If Danny Hurley wins a third national title, does he surpass Red Auerbach, Tony Dungy, or Pep Guardiola as “best bald coach in sports”?
  • Pep Guardiola’s trophy count discussed and compared (27:25 – 28:25); Scotty Bowman, Jim Calhoun, etc., name-checked for fun.

Matchup Analyses (66:04 – 80:54)

UConn vs. Illinois

• Stanford Steve:

  “UConn, when they get out of conference, is completely different...I think they're super dangerous.” (68:08)

• Both UConn and Illinois’ road to the Final Four praised for toughness, coaching, and versatility.

Arizona vs. Michigan

• Key Question: Will Michigan’s rim defense neutralize Arizona’s frontcourt advantage?
• Stanford Steve points to Karchenkov (Arizona) as a possible x-factor guarding Michigan’s Yaxel Lindeborg.

General Takeaways:

• These are “big boy” games with rare closely matched teams—expected to be tight, physical, and tactical (33:07).
• Quote:

  “I think America is the real winner. That's my take.” – Hank (36:39)

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Interview: Stanford Steve (50:15 – 95:31)

Topics Covered

• Regret at missing the Final Four with the PMT crew for family—which prompts classic dad banter and respect.
• Stanford Steve’s happiness hedge as a Duke fan (“I always expect the worst” – 52:14)
• Reliving UConn’s win over Duke, with social media self-preservation:

  “That’s why you don’t go on social media...you have to take a breather, it’s part of the grieving process.” (54:50)

• Candid discussion on Duke’s coaching, one-and-done culture, and why the loss stings.
• A humorous rundown of “disappointing” Duke exits.
• Final Four matchups: breakdowns of X-factors, likely strategies, coaching matchups (esp. Dusty May vs. Tommy Lloyd), and what to expect stylistically.

Women's Final Four

• Steve likes UConn’s women—multiple futures tickets recommended, Men's & Women's UConn moneyline parlay floated (83:53).
• Geno Auriemma’s experience and press conference bravado praised.

PMT Bachelor Party Invitation

• Lighthearted segment on whether Steve will attend Max’s bachelor party (85:22).

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Fyre Fest of the Week (96:00 – end)

• Classic Round-Robin:
  • Hank: Currently very sick with “not allergies” (100:14 – 101:22).

    “When I sneeze, it’s violent and loud...I have some type of bug.”

  • Max: Pulled his calf (then pulled the other)—contemplates walking more, vows “if I’m scrolling, I’m strolling” (103:57).
  • Big Cat: Admits he enjoyed golfing with PFT in Scottsdale, calling it a true "Fyre Fest" (109:47).
  • Zach: Roasted for misspelling "waste" as “waist” on an Instagram post, doesn’t realize why he’s getting flamed (111:07).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Philly, Hurts, and the Eagles:

• “This is wildly disrespectful to Jalen Hurts...it’s a fucked up situation he’s got.” — Max (10:55)

• “If I were an Eagles fan, the things I would be worried about from this article...it’s more about massive leak problems—or it’s a coordinated attack.” — Big Cat (09:33)

On Duke’s Tournament Loss:

• “I always expect the worst, even being a Duke fan. The whole second half...I’m just sitting there thinking: how’s this going to be bad?” — Stanford Steve (52:14)

• “Remember the old Patrick Roy quote? ‘I can’t hear you, I’ve got too many rings in my ears.’ That’s me right now with Duke.” — Big Cat (54:58)

On the NCAA Final Four:

• “These are two of the best teams in a long, long time to be matched up in a Final Four.” — Big Cat on Arizona/Michigan (24:28)

• “When you magnify things down for what UConn has done, it’s absolutely incredible.” — Stanford Steve (60:26)

• “I think the winner of UConn-Illinois could for sure win the national championship. The problem is — you gotta win this one.” — Stanford Steve (69:29)

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Memorable Banter & Running Gags

• The “best bald coach” bracket—Pep Guardiola, Tom Landry, Matt Nagy, Scotty Bowman, and others thrown into the debate.
• The ritual of “blocking” sportswriters—live on-air challenge to tweet at Jeremy Fowler:

  “Just say ‘fuck you, buddy’ to him…send it.” – Big Cat (13:39)

• Lighthearted eulogy for Duke’s repeated tournament heartbreaks, culminating in:

  “How greedy are you? ... multiple banners!” – Reciting a Duke podcast (62:41)

• Running discussion about attire at strip clubs (“gray sweatpants” bit) and sweatpants at fancy bachelor party events.

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Time-Stamped Highlights

• 04:10: Opening salvo on Eagles/Jalen Hurts situation
• 24:11: Final Four betting picks
• 26:44: “Best bald coach in sports” debate
• 50:15: Stanford Steve Interview begins
• 66:04: Final Four preview with Steve
• 83:53: Women's NCAA tourney picks
• 96:00: Fyre Fest of the Week

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Overall Tone & Style

As always, the PMT hosts mix sharp sports insights with unfiltered, irreverent humor and deeply loyal sports-fan energy. Personal anecdotes, extended riffing (especially on sports media tropes and fashion faux pas), and pop culture references abound. The episode is both a deep-dive sports commentary and a “hang out with the boys”—fun, self-deprecating, and designed for the true sports diehard (or those who want to feel like one).

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Conclusion

This episode delivers heavy Final Four breakdowns, a real-time diagnosis of Philly sports chaos, a Duke fan’s postmortem, and all the mishaps and triumphs of Barstool personalities. Standout guest Stanford Steve brings signature wit and expertise, capping an episode that’s part sports symposium, part group therapy for fans everywhere.

Transcript

[Dan]

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[Dan]

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[Max]

Yeah. Martin Mite.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Barn at my tank.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Barn at my tech.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Welcome to part of my take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, April 3rd, and, boys, it's Final Four weekend. But before we preview the games and talk the Final Four, what's going on in Philadelphia?

[Max]

Well, I got a question.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Is everything okay with Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown?

[Dan]

I don't know. Pft. There's a lot of smoke. This is the biggest story.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

Oh. What do you want to say? Oh, Tiger got it. Dude, the footage. The footage came out of Tiger's DUI arrest. He's pretty fucked up.

[Memes]

Yeah. I mean, you could go puking Nakua to rehab. That's another.

[Max]

That's a nice light story to get started with today. Max.

[Memes]

This isn't a light story.

[Dan]

That was April Fool's, right?

[Max]

I don't think so.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know it wasn't. It's just I noted that on Wednesday, like, imagine having a real story. Like, that's a brutal day. So, like, did you see Jerry Sandusky retired? Shout out Jerry Sandusky. He retired. Twenty years, working in football. Mm.

[Max]

So, football guy.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Jerry Sandowski.

[Dan]

Well, no, talk about Gerard Sandusky.

[Max]

The. The Ravens and the Ravens.

[Dan]

Oh, it's a good guy.

[Max]

Yeah, great guy.

[Dan]

Shout out Jerry Sandusky, by the way, for. For surviving after the other Jerry Sandusky and being like, I'm gonna keep doing my job in football.

[Max]

He's another victim of Jerry Sandusky.

[Dan]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Max]

Like, everybody looked at him sideways for the rest of his life.

[Dan]

Yeah, but. Yeah, 20 years. But he announced it on. On Wednesday, April 1st, and I was like, damn, imagine announcing your retirement 20 years as the voice of the Baltimore Ravens on April 1st and having everyone say, ah, April Fools.

[Max]

So when I woke up in the morning, the first article that I read, I saw online on the ESPN.com homepage. It was the Jalen Hurts Philadelphia Eagles article. And I thought it was April Fools. I was like, why is this article coming out right now? It seemed like it was just a mean April Fools to troll one person, our good friend Max Lente. And then I read it and. Did you read the article?

[Dan]

I read. I read most of it.

[Max]

Okay. Hank, did you read the article?

[Hank]

I did not.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

Zach, did you read the article?

[Zach]

I did.

[Max]

Okay.

[Memes]

And that's the longest art. This was the most words I've read

[Max]

in, like, 10 years yesterday. Max, you said that you hadn't read it yet.

[Dan]

It is like, that's why. Oh, I didn't read all of it. I fell asleep halfway.

[Memes]

Correct. Because it was a whole lot of nothing. It was a great point, Big Cat. Point. Big Cat.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

It's a big article. I. I'm going to do the. The wind horse.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

There were a lot of sources, a

[Dan]

ton of sources as well.

[Max]

My big takeaway from this is there are some people in that still work for the Eagles in the front office and the coaching ranks. The Philadelphia Eagles that authorized a hatchet job against their starting quarterback.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Max]

Not just your Patulos. Not just the guys that used to work there. Your Brian Johnson's. Not just your.

[Dan]

Your.

[Max]

Your former employees that might still hold a grudge. There's some guys inside those walls that gave the go ahead and the green light to run a clear hit piece against the guy, your Super Bowl MVP starting quarterback and the guy that should be leading you for the next five to 10 years. Why would they do that?

[Memes]

Yes.

[Dan]

So I had the exact same takeaway. The actual contents of the article is basically everything we knew. You know? Oh, he. The offense was stale.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He didn't want to let it rip, you know, the four Verts to end the season. All these things I feel like most people knew.

[Max]

We actually picked up on the four Verts conversation when it happened.

[Memes]

That was also misleading in a lot of tweets and what was actually put in that. In that article. Go on they said that Jalen Hurts was the one that made the call for.

[Dan]

No, he agreed.

[Memes]

He agreed to it. But if you. If you look on a lot of headlines on Twitter, it says Jaylen Herz made the call for. For V. For four verts.

[Max]

I think it was.

[Memes]

He.

[Max]

There's a couple options, and he selected four verts.

[Dan]

No, no, no.

[Memes]

They. It looked like N. Sirianni and Kevin Mulo didn't know what to do. And they were like, oh, Herz, what

[Dan]

do you want to do?

[Memes]

And he's like, I don't know. Four verts. Why? If you're the. If you are the play caller, make the call.

[Max]

Agreed. In that little description you just gave right there, Max, Jaylen Herz did make the call.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

And wrong.

[Max]

That's what you just said, though.

[Memes]

But like the way that you look it up online, it's like that he. That he changed the call at the line also.

[Dan]

Does it. In the way you just described it, does it make you a little nervous that the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles is Gus Duggerton? Because what you just described is literally every big moment when I've played the college football game, and I'm like, what the fuck do I do? What the fuck do I do? All right, I'll just do four verts.

[Memes]

He's. He wasn't the play caller.

[Max]

Well, there was that other play call at the end of the packers game, which we talked about. When that game went, when that game happened. That was. That was one of the worst games, Terrible football game. And that called the deep shot to AJ apparently when devonte was coming off the field, they asked him like, hey, what the. Was that play call?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

And he just said 1 in 11.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Which is Hertz and A.J. brown. So maybe they're. Maybe they're too good of friends.

[Memes]

Sure.

[Dan]

Either way, back to the big picture. And Max, I don't know if you. I don't think. I'm not trying to troll you. I'm actually talking about this article because there isn't a lot going on. We're going to get to the final four.

[Memes]

Kirk Cousins, also Kirk Cousins.

[Dan]

We'll talk about. Kirk Cousins signed an 11th straight year having fully guaranteed contract in the NFL. Congrats. Absolute God. In terms of contracts, Max. My. If. If I were an Eagles fan, the things I would be worried about from this article. Again, not the contents. It's more the fact that one at the best case scenario you have some massive leak problems.

[Memes]

We're all trying to find the guy who's. Do who's doing this?

[Dan]

Okay. And then the worst case scenario, there actually isn't a massive leak problem. This is a coordinated attack. Kind of like what PFT was saying, that they are trying to get ready, get everyone ready for a move that's coming to get rid of Jalen Hurts.

[Memes]

I would not be surprised if. How he.

[Dan]

Right.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because it did feel like a. Hey, we're not. We're getting everyone ready. In the mindset, we're basically giving you ammo. So when this happens, you can say, aha, it was because of all this. And, you know, we're dumb as fans. If you give enough reasons and anonymous sources and enough, like, talking points when they. If they make a drastic move, you could be like, well, yeah, you know, there was. There was some issues.

[Memes]

It's. It's the. It's. A lot of people are saying it's basically what they did with Carson Wentz and Jalen.

[Dan]

Right.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Right.

[Memes]

That, like, I would not be surprised if there's a day two quarterback that. That corrected correct.

[Dan]

Or.

[Max]

Or maybe a Ty Simpson or a Tanner McKee. I would be surprised with anything because Hertz gets paid a lot of money. I actually. I think it's Tanner McKee because they.

[Memes]

They were shopping Tanner McKee.

[Max]

Yeah, true.

[Memes]

If it was Tanner McKee, they wouldn't have been shopping him.

[Max]

Max, can take your headphones off real quick?

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Please.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

Hank, where you.

[Max]

This is.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

This is wildly disrespectful to Jaylen Herz.

[Dan]

I agree.

[Max]

Like, the guy is a Super Bowl MVP quarterback. He outplayed Patrick Mahomes in two Super Bowls. He had a bad season last year. The whole offense had a bad season last year. And for everybody to just like, turn and take their knives out and start stabbing this guy in the back repeatedly. It feels. I mean, it's a. It's a up situation he's got.

[Dan]

He doesn't have a lot of friends in that building.

[Max]

He doesn't. And I feel. I feel bad for the guy. He doesn't deserve this. But it does feel like it was according. They called in the code red.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

And they're just having a little sock party on him. Just beating the out, put a hit out. I feel bad for Jalen.

[Hank]

Hurts.

[Max]

He doesn't deserve any of this stuff. He's way too good a player.

[Dan]

What do you think, Hank?

[Hank]

I'm just wondering how this affects A.J. brown's trade value.

[Max]

I. I think it actually. It seems like.

[Hank]

I think it hurts it because I think it seems like he's gone no matter what.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So it might help, you know, Max, put on your headphones trying to. To acquire him, because the Eagles are pretty much. They've. Seems like they made the decision to move on from A.J.

[Memes]

brown.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Or Jalen Hurts. But I think Getting rid of A.J. brown is part of that process.

[Max]

I don't know. I think that this might make it more likely for them to keep AJ Brown and move on from Jalen Hurts.

[Hank]

That would be crazy, because he's a Super Bowl MVP that outplayed Patrick Mahomes twice.

[Dan]

Why not trade both?

[Max]

There's some propaganda from Hank.

[Dan]

Why not trade both?

[Hank]

I feel like if I was an Eagles fan, that would drive me insane to trade both. Yeah.

[Dan]

But A.J. brown's gone. In your mind.

[Hank]

I. That's biased mind. Yes.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

And where does he go in your mind?

[Hank]

New England.

[Memes]

I appreciate. I appreciate you acknowledging bias Bias.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I wish I. No, I appreciate that.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Max, do you think it's more unbiased?

[Hank]

He's still gone.

[Max]

Do you think it's more or less likely now that A.J. brown gets traded?

[Memes]

I don't know. I think I. I've thought AJ Brown was probably gone for a while now. I think it's just gonna. He's just gonna get traded after June 1st. The one he's not gonna. Yeah.

[Dan]

The one thing I will say that I. I do love about Philadelphia, and, Max, you could back me up. I'm PFT's division rivals with Philadelphia. Hank hates the city of Philadelphia. I think I've always been fair. I like Philadelphia. I think the fans are awesome. I think it's good for the ecosystem. They're going to spend the next, like, week trashing Jeremy Fowler. And then when they do trade Jalen Hurts, they're going to be like, jeremy Fowler, you were right.

[Max]

I think they're still going to hate him. Like.

[Dan]

Like, there's a chance that everyone. A lot of Eagles fans hate Jeremy Fowler. And then, like, come September, they're going to be posting Jeremy Fowler's article being like, this is why.

[Memes]

But what about when Jalen Hurts has an MVP year?

[Dan]

Then they'll be able to trash him still. But you see what I'm saying.

[Memes]

Yes, I am. I'm aware of that situation.

[Dan]

Are you blocked by Jeremy Fowler?

[Memes]

I haven't said anything about. Actually, no. I did say one thing.

[Dan]

I said, tweet him right now. Just say, fuck you, buddy. Just tweet him.

[Memes]

I don't know. I was fired up yesterday. I quote, tweeted some, like, random Eagles account that was like, why are we running this story today? But. And people were like, obviously, it's an Eagles count. They're going to post about it. But I wasn't talking about them. I was talking about Jeremy Fowler. I should have, quote, tweeted Jeremy Fowler himself.

[Dan]

Yeah, say you, buddy to him. Just say it. Just send a shot. Yeah, yeah, send it.

[Max]

They're at a crossroads. Yeah, they're at a cr. That's what Jeremy Fowler's reporting is. This is a crossroads. It could also be like, oh, you're going.

[Dan]

I. You don't even have to do. You could just do At Jeremy Fowler so it's not public. Like, it's. Oh, yeah, I'm not even if you want to go full.

[Max]

Full out there, but yeah, this could just be one season. And let's see what happens with Jalen Hurts. Like, he has to. Something has to change going to this year, and then if nothing changes, then they move on. Or it could just be this. This off season. I don't know.

[Dan]

He went with get. Yeah.

[Max]

I love it.

[Memes]

That's a memes line. Yeah, I was trying in my head, I was like, if I were memes, what would I. What would I say here? And I think get. Is that. Is that a good. Good play? A good move right there.

[Dan]

Perfect. Yeah, we'll. We'll follow up in. In 20 minutes, see if you got blocked. Because I think he was blocking some Eagles fans.

[Memes]

That is what it is.

[Max]

You gotta shoot the messenger sometimes. Yeah. If you get bad news, you got to shoot the messenger. Especially if it's. If it's an article that comes out early. April just. Hey, FYI, it honestly sounds like a way that me and Big Cat would start an episode, a part of my take in a dead week in April, just to. With Max.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, it came out of nowhere. I have no idea what. It sounds like something that's been planned for a long time.

[Dan]

And. And the. The fact that it's, you know, happening when the entire league is at the same hotel.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

In Arizona. Doesn'. It's just. The leaks are really what the problem is, Max. Unless. Unless, again, it's the. The plan is this.

[Max]

Is.

[Dan]

This was all planned out, and then they're gonna draft a quarterback or move on from Jalen Hurts.

[Max]

I don't think it was like six or seven guys just, like, independently deciding now is the time to leak.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

I think there's. There were a couple people that gave the green light and said, yeah, you can talk to Jeremy Fowler now saying

[Dan]

someone in the Eagles put a hit Out.

[Max]

I'm saying somebody at the Eagles might need to have a message sent to him.

[Memes]

Or maybe Kevin Matullo just has a

[Stanford Steve]

lot of buddies that one of the defenses, the staff.

[Memes]

I was trying to look into that. I think he is, because I haven't seen anywhere that he's not.

[Dan]

Okay, he's not. Not on the staff. He's not. Not on the staff. Yeah, that's fair. He's somewhere.

[Memes]

Oh, wait, that's a complete lie. He's passing game coordinator for the Miami Dolphins.

[Dan]

No,

[Memes]

I thought I looked into it. Yes, I did

[Max]

look into it.

[Dan]

Now we got the best researchers in the business here.

[Max]

He's down in Miami.

[Memes]

You know what probably happened is I. I think I googled it to look at this, and then I got distracted by something and follow. Didn't follow through.

[Dan]

You googled Kevin Patulo and saw the first picture of him in Eagles.

[Stanford Steve]

That hat.

[Dan]

And you're like, oh, I guess he's still on the team.

[Memes]

And here it still says teams.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

But then, you know, you got it. All you got to do is look over to the overview and it says Miami Dolphin. And I remember. And now that we talking. We're talking about this. I remember when he got hired by the Dolphins.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because I remember thinking, like, wow, what a loser organization hiring a loser coach.

[Dan]

Okay, that's it. Max. That was actually very. That. That wasn't. I think we all. That was good.

[Memes]

That was respectful all around.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I'm okay with all of that.

[Dan]

I think we all agree because we all kind of had the same takeaways. Like, it's not the Jaylen Herz bashing, it's the leaks. And is this something that they're trying to set up another play from?

[Max]

Like, if there's a guy that's that good, that's played at that high of a level, and you're not getting it out of him anymore. You have to look at your coaches first. There's something else that. That might be going wrong. The fact that they all turned on him at one time tells me they're. They're looking to get him out of there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

And some team would probably be looking to overpay for him. And how he. You know, how he sees a situation like that and he won't be able to help himself if the team's like,

[Memes]

that's another thing about the leaks. Like the. If he was trying to get rid of them now, his stock just went down after. After this. True.

[Dan]

Good point. Like, good point.

[Memes]

How he's very big on like trying to get the most out of all of their guys right now is not the most after this.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a fair counterpoint. Kirk Cousins, like we said Raiders signed built for million dollars. He has now made so he's fully guaranteed for again the 11th straight season. Shout out Kirk Cousins. If he plays out this contract, he will make $343 million in his NFL career.

[Max]

Yeah. Absolute legend. Good for him. Played it right. I mean going back to the first time he got paid, everybody called him weird for like they said the situation was messed up going into like back to. Back to back tagged years and then somehow his agent only picks up the phone for guaranteed money. Even going to Atlanta. The guaranteed money that he got there for not really working that hard. Pretty. Pretty legendary. Yeah. And then this contract with Vegas. It sounds like it's a. It's really a one year, 20 million dollar contract. And then they can, they can go back to it after the fact. I know the Raiders are saying that they, they don't want Mendoza to start this year.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Kirk might start. And it's also. I. I can't think of a better pairing than Kirk Cousins and Fernando Mendoza.

[Max]

Yeah. We were. We're live on Wake up Barstool when it broke and big T goes. They might build a mega church.

[Dan]

Yeah, they're, they're, they're the. They're. They're gonna be best friends. Yeah.

[Max]

It's gonna be great. It's. It's a perfect, perfect fit. And Kirk Cousins is going to be pretty much like a. Like a coach. Yeah, he's gonna be like a second coach trying to. I think he'll be a good teammate helping to bring Mendoza along. And probably they'll. They're just like brothers. They're the same guy. Just one's a little bit younger and a little bit bigger. But they're going to get along well. And I feel like this is. It's a very funny thing that there's such a great fit. But it's also in Las Vegas, the city that's like least it's the. It's the least Kirk Cousins city in North America.

[Dan]

I think it's at least Fernando Mendoza city.

[Hank]

They need a wild card third string.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Swag Kelly.

[Dan]

Yeah. Swag Kelly. Yeah.

[Max]

Get Kelly Kid Kelly in the mix there.

[Dan]

Johnny Manziel.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That would be so sick.

[Hank]

They could.

[Dan]

I think they little Heaven and Hell.

[Max]

Yeah. They need a little bit of in that locker room.

[Hank]

Right.

[Dan]

Well, Max Crou is still there.

[Max]

That's true.

[Dan]

Yeah. He's a dog.

[Max]

He is.

[Dan]

He's an absolute dog.

[Max]

Yeah. Christian Wilkins back in the mix. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

The. Okay. Any. Any other things before we do final four talk? The Jaden Ivy thing has gotten weirder.

[Max]

It's very, very weird.

[Dan]

It's also just everyone's picking aside and not I. The. The story was that he. I hope it gets Akr general manager fired, which he should. But the story that he. He basically said told the trainers that Jesus healed his knee and then he got an mri and they're like, no.

[Max]

I mean, I. Far be it for me to tell him that he's wrong.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Like, try to. Okay. Try to play.

[Dan]

Might. Might be.

[Max]

And then Jesus got. Jesus got crossed up too.

[Dan]

Yeah. The. And then Tiger, the. All the. All the videos came out. Did not look good.

[Max]

Yeah, the body. That's what happens in movies. Like after the. The good guy, the cop, like, wins at the end. They show up with the ambulance. They're like, here's a blanket to put over you and a little butterfly bandage to stitch up your face.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They save the kid out of the well.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

They give him a blanket.

[Max]

I don't know what that Tiger needed a blanket for that, but Tiger taking a knee that was like. He looked like Drew Brees. It was a solid knee that he was. It was a solid knee for a long. Yeah. I just hope. Same thing with Tiger and. And Ivy. I hope that they both are okay.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Mentally.

[Dan]

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[Dan]

Okay, boys, what are we thinking? Or should we preview it and then we'll do our pick?

[Max]

Let's just do it now.

[Dan]

Okay?

[Max]

Let's do the pick now.

[Dan]

Okay. What do you got?

[Hank]

I would like Arizona Moneyline.

[Dan]

Okay. Okay.

[Max]

I don't hate that.

[Dan]

I don't hate it either.

[Hank]

Plus 105 right now.

[Dan]

Plus 105. Arizona money line.

[Hank]

The fact that they're underdogs is crazy to me.

[Dan]

Michigan's really, really good.

[Hank]

Arizona has looked.

[Dan]

Arizona's really, really good. They're two of the best teams in a long, long time to be matched up in a final Four. Pft. I think you got to go with a total in this game.

[Max]

So I'm actually going to be not in Illinois this weekend. So does that mean that I could make my leg. The Illinois game?

[Dan]

I. Well, I. I was gonna do it because I'm gonna be an indie.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

Yeah. If you wanted.

[Max]

So I'll just.

[Dan]

Well, if you have something else, because I have. I was gonna take the first half over Illinois in Yukon.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

63 and a half, I believe it is. And we'll. We'll make sure it's updated. But yeah, that was gonna be mine. So you can go off that.

[Max]

I was gonna go with Yukon over 68 and a half points.

[Dan]

Love that.

[Max]

I don't think that they're going to start off shooting as poorly as they did in the Elite Eight.

[Dan]

Yeah. Okay. So there it is. I'm excited for these games. I think it's gonna be great. Great, great basketball.

[Max]

Very excited.

[Dan]

So. So if we're just going just quick, quick stats in facts. You. Everyone knows that the. They love the. The Ken Palm stats pre tournament. And, and so 19 of the last 21 champions had a top 10 Ken Palm offense. If that holds true, UConn's eliminated. It's Illinois 1, Arizona 4, Michigan 5. Those are the three that fit the profile.

[Max]

Now what was Yukon?

[Dan]

They're 28th. But here's the wrinkle to that stat. So like I said, 19 of the last 21 champions had a top 10 Ken Palm offense. The two champions that did not have a top 10 Ken Palm offense. Any guesses? Yeah, twice. Yeah, 2011 Yukon and 2014 Yukon.

[Max]

Makes sense.

[Dan]

So it's really. The stat is 21 out of the last 21 champions have either had a top 10 offense or been named Yukon.

[Max]

But. But also those are the old iteration of Yukon. Yeah. Not. Not like the current Danny Hurley iteration.

[Stanford Steve]

Correct.

[Dan]

But yeah, that was a Kevin Ollie Yukon and that was Jim Calhoun's last championship. But it is funny that the two. The two outliers are Yukon. Who is here.

[Max]

I think that it's a very important conversation that we should start having just in case does win another national championship. That would make it three for Danny Hurley. I think that would make Danny Hurley the best bald coach in sports history.

[Dan]

In sports history.

[Max]

I think it would. The only. I. I thought about it. The only other option could be Red Arbok.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

But he wasn't bald for his entire career.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

I think right now he's. He's up there. I think he's already on the Mount Rushmore of bald head coaches. But if he wins a third, that puts you in rare fight air with college basketball.

[Dan]

Well, wouldn't you under that same reasoning? What about Bill Self?

[Max]

No, no toupe like Danny Hurley. He wears it loud, he wears it proud. He owns it. He is very bald. There's no questions. Like we're not talking about Tom Thibodeau here. We're talking about Danny Hurley. Bald. Bald.

[Dan]

All right. I got a couple others that I'll throw out there.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

If we want to go talking soccer.

[Max]

Pep, Pep Guardiola.

[Dan]

Has he won a lot? I think he's won a lot.

[Max]

I honestly don't know that much about Pep.

[Dan]

I know that I'm look up Pep Guardiola winning.

[Max]

He's Hank's best friend's best friend.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's true. Hank, do you have any thoughts on Pep?

[Max]

Joe Missoula loves him.

[Hank]

I know nothing about him.

[Max]

Okay.

[Hank]

Who's call Man United, Some team.

[Dan]

I actually don't know either. I think he was man city for a while and then he was. I think he's somewhere else now. I don't know how much he's won.

[Max]

I think he's. He's very, very highly regarded.

[Dan]

How many trophies? Pep Guardiola, how many trophies? He's won 40 major trophies. They give out trophies for everything though. That includes 12 league titles, 16 domestic cups, 12 international titles, three Champions Leagues and four FIFA Club Club World Cups. That's a lot.

[Max]

It's a lot.

[Dan]

I. I guess a shitload of trophies.

[Max]

I think I'll. I'll make this a non soccer related.

[Dan]

All right. Non soccer. Tom Landry.

[Max]

Do we know? Because Tom Landry had the hat.

[Dan]

He did have the hat. So we don't know if we want to eliminate him. Yeah. Was Tom Landry bald? I think he was. I think he was very bold. I think he actually had like the perfect male pattern. Bald. This Larry David.

[Max]

He had the hoop.

[Dan]

Yeah, he was. Yes. I'm looking at a picture of Tom Landry. He was. He was very bald.

[Max]

But the hat, I feel like.

[Dan]

Yeah, I agree.

[Max]

That's a hat.

[Dan]

I'm just throwing out. Guys get the discussion going. Matt Nagy.

[Max]

Yeah, he's up there too. He has to be.

[Dan]

Yeah. He won coach of the year.

[Max]

I keep forgetting that.

[Dan]

He did win coach of the year. Tarkanian, I believe, is bald.

[Max]

Yep. Rick Majeris.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Dan]

Rick Majeris. Yeah, but I.

[Max]

If he gets.

[Dan]

You're right. No, I. I'm just throwing out names. Just throw out names. But I think you might be right.

[Max]

Like somebody. Somebody told me Tony Dungy should be up there in that conversation. I think as it stands right now, I have one. Danny Hurley's got two college basketball national championships. Tony Dungy has one Super Bowl. Yeah, those are equivalent, I think.

[Dan]

Okay, what about Scotty Bowman?

[Max]

Okay, now. Now we're getting in some territory that I'm not that familiar with some. Scotty Bowman, he won. He's a legendary coach. How many Stanley Cups does he have?

[Dan]

He won 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. 9. In certain. In some capacity. 9. 9 Stanley Cups. As a coach.

[Max]

As a coach, that's a lot. What about a head coach? That's a ton.

[Dan]

That's a shitload of Stanley Cups. I don't know. So that would be okay.

[Max]

I would. I would respectfully, I would put Scotty Bowman maybe ahead of Dan Hurley. But, like, what are. Who are the other coaches that have 3? Off the top of my head? Bob Knight, right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Roy Williams, I believe, has three. Who else?

[Dan]

Oh, of college coach.

[Max]

Yeah, it's.

[Dan]

It's Roy. Bob and I has four, I believe, College coaches championship. Roy. Who else?

[Max]

Jim Calhoun.

[Dan]

Jim Calhoun has four. Three. He has no. He has four. No, he's three.

[Max]

Three.

[Dan]

He's three. Jim Calhoun has three. We're not going all the way back there.

[Max]

Hank just wanted to shout out, Adolf.

[Dan]

Coach K. Roy Williams trying to think. Yeah, so, I mean, you're right. Pft. It's a good. It's a good.

[Max]

Just a little thought. Starter.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Maybe get this good thought.

[Dan]

And I don't. I don't hate the. The take that he would be. He'd be the. The best. Scotty Bowman probably hurts his case a little, but Bob Knight has three, Jim Calhoun has three, Roy Williams has three, and then Bill Self has two, Rick Patino has two. Cal still has one.

[Max]

Cal's got one. Yeah, but I mean, if Hurley gets this, he.

[Dan]

Wright's got two.

[Max]

He's young and still a lot of. A lot of meat left on that bone.

[Dan]

He's an incredible coach.

[Max]

He's a great, great head coach. I think sometimes, and when we talk to him, I was thinking about this. Sometimes he's such a psychopath that we just kind of fall in love with how funny is and how, like, how polarizing he is, and we forget the fact that he is a very, very good basketball coach. X's and O's.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

And a super smart guy.

[Dan]

Yes, yes. He, he's a hell of a coach. And I, I, we're gonna talk about it with Steve. But the thing I keep going back to is that UConn in the Big east versus UConn in the non conferences. Stark difference. They've lost six times in the last four years in the non conference and this is a non conference game now for Illinois. Illinois has been, it's, I would say they're the least talked about of the four teams just because UConn's been there. Michigan, Arizona. Everyone's saying that's the national title. I totally disagree. Illinois is so goddamn good. And Brad Underwood is such a good coach as well. Underwood is 75% against the spread win percentage in the more prep time rounds. So that's round of 64, sweet 16, final four. So that's tied for fourth best minimum 10 games for any coach since 1985. The top four are Chris Beard, Chris Mack, Dan Hurley, who's 10 and three against spread and Brad Underwood nine and three. So he's an insanely good coach and it's going to be an awesome matchup. I think I feel like Wagler is just going to be, I don't know, this might be his, he's already had his coming out party. But yeah, it's like even more so.

[Max]

I mean when, yeah, when, when he takes over games, he's the most fun to watch. Yeah, I, I have no idea. I. In either of these two games, I think they're both going to be awesome games. I think that's. My prediction is they're both going to be within five.

[Dan]

I would love it.

[Max]

I think they're.

[Dan]

The fact that both spreads are this low.

[Max]

I think they're both going to be close games. If, if you had gun to my head, I would say Arizona and I would, I think I would say Yukon. But Illinois is a great team.

[Hank]

Rowdy atmosphere too.

[Max]

Rowdy.

[Hank]

Oh, like Yukon. Illinois being there. Easy, easy trip for them.

[Dan]

Michigan always travels well.

[Hank]

Yukon powerhouse. Yeah, I think it's going to be one of the more rowdy Final four games.

[Dan]

They are also. Illinois is the just by point differential entering the final four. They're the fourth best team seated three or higher to make the final four. In terms of point differential, they're. They're plus 19.8 points in their first four games. The best three or higher was 2023. UConn plus 20, 2022 and a half and they won the title. So it's like yeah, these get in the game that they played early in the season. Just throw it out. Or Steve will tell you exactly why. The one thing he didn't mention. It was also a game that was played on an NBA cup floor.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it was brutal to watch. So I hated that I. I was contemplating BYU early in the season on NBA cup floors. Like this is just because NBA cup. You get it. But for a college game. It makes no sense. Yep. So that game's be great. And then Arizona, Michigan.

[Max]

Oh boy.

[Dan]

It's. It's gonna be awesome.

[Max]

Big boy basketball.

[Dan]

Big boy basketball. The only thing I'd be worried about if our Michigan is that they gotta stop giving Elliot Cadeau stuff that he's allergic to. Right before they leave.

[Max]

Yeah. So what happened? What was he allergic to?

[Dan]

I don't. Was allergic to. But he had to get medical attention. He was carted off during Wolverine's practice after suffering an allergic reaction. That's like. That's got to be. We're at the end of the season. You got to know what the guy's allergic to.

[Max]

This sounds like some. Some classic Tom Flurry, some Ohio State hijinks, some.

[Dan]

Some malfeasance.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Max]

I don't know. Like. Yeah. What are you getting allergic to in the middle of practice?

[Dan]

I don't know. But yeah, it does. It does feel like something's up.

[Max]

He is going to be okay though for the game.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think he's going to be fine. There was also. I think. I think I saw. There was the Yaxel was. Was live. Was he live streaming last night till like two in the morning. Did you see a story like that?

[Max]

Yaxel is. He's a. How do we feel about Yaxel?

[Dan]

Well, I said I, I.

[Max]

He seems.

[Dan]

He's. He's unbelievable player.

[Max]

He is a great player. He also seems to be like very easy to hate.

[Dan]

Yeah. All right. I don't know if he was live stream maybe I just saw that in passing. That was not correct. Yeah, well, I, I don't like the. We talked about it. I don't like that he was like calling out being disrespected by freshman guarding him when he's 23 years old. But man, I don't. Michigan doesn't deserve another title after football.

[Max]

Yeah. I mean it's. This is. We're living in the Dave Portnoy snow globe.

[Dan]

This would be his final boss. This gotten everything else.

[Max]

This is it. Like he's. But all he's focused on is how bad the Red Sox are.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

That's the only thing that he cares about right now.

[Dan]

Well, he did. He did decide he was going to bet the Red Sox every single game this year. Have they started? 0 and 6.

[Max]

1.

[Dan]

51 and 5. So that's a tough start. Yeah. He. Yaxel is very good. Michigan is awesome. This is going to be just Titans. I. I don't know. I don't know about this game. I keep going back and forth. You like Arizona a lot?

[Hank]

Love Arizona.

[Max]

Is this a classic length versus Strength?

[Dan]

I think it's just length versus length.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And strength versus strength.

[Max]

Yeah. I mean, I. I feel like Arizona's bigs might be more powerful, but not by much. But Michigan's bigs are great on defense. I'm excited. I. Again, I think it's going to be another close game. I think. I think, Hank, I would agree with you. I would say I would lean Arizona, but I think. I think America is the real winner. That's my take.

[Dan]

Absolutely. By the way, the. Did you see the. The ratings for the Duke Yukon game was like 19 million people watch. We're in a. It's proving true for all the. For all the naysayers and people said that college. College sports are. Are going down and. And the tournament is lost its luster. People are watching.

[Max]

We are in a golden age of Duke choking.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

The last five years have just been a hell of a run that America's been on. So that. Yeah. You said 19 million?

[Dan]

I think so. If you can find it. Max. I think it was 19. It was a lot of people. A lot of people tuned in late to see and what a game it was. Did we. Do we cover that game?

[Max]

I think we're going to talk about with Stanford Steve for a little bit. Yeah.

[Dan]

All right. All right, all right. What else? Oh, no, I was off.

[Memes]

No, you're right. Oh, peaked at 19.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Average 13.5.

[Dan]

I don't. Can I just say, I never will understand how any of this works?

[Max]

Oh, the, the like average rating and the one that comes out overnight. No, don't, Don't.

[Dan]

Do not get it whatsoever. You could sit down and explain it to me. How are they tracking it? The Nielsen rating makes no sense to me. I like, I get the concept of it that they just put it in average person's home and then they try to. But I still don't get it.

[Max]

Yeah. For a while you. You had to write it down. Like you would have to keep a log of everything that you watched in your house and like mail in a notebook.

[Dan]

Do you know that we have a person in this office who used to be a salesperson for the Nielsen ratings. He used to go door too, selling Nielsen boxes. Did you guys know that?

[Max]

If I were to guess, Stephen Che de. Oh, really?

[Dan]

That's classic.

[Max]

Yeah. I mean, Stephen Ch. Is the number one box guy that we got.

[Dan]

He is the number one box guy.

[Memes]

What does a Nielsen box like? Why would a consumer like to have that?

[Dan]

You get power.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Your views matter.

[Dan]

You get paid like 100 bucks a month or.

[Memes]

God.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Max]

The power you would have. Like, you. You could watch whatever you want, and then the powers that be that collect that data, they would think that whatever it is you watch is typical of like a hundred thousand homes. It's very powerful position.

[Memes]

I'd like to get a Nielsen rating in Zach's apartment.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah. Zach, did I give you an assignment this week? I can't remember.

[Zach]

Assignment this week?

[Dan]

Yeah, to research something. I can't. I'm vaguely thinking that I did, but I can't remember.

[Zach]

I think the last assignment was the fun facts for the group of 16.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

I gave you an assignment.

[Zach]

I. Yeah. Notes on the Eagles article.

[Max]

Yeah, I. I didn't ask you about those.

[Memes]

We don't have to. We already did this.

[Max]

No, no, we.

[Dan]

Oh, no. I asked you to look up.

[Max]

That's my fault.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We.

[Zach]

Fasting. I think we talked last week in the. Fast went well. Yeah, we were talking fast at the. In Arizona.

[Dan]

I ended it at 50 hours and I actually did. It was great.

[Zach]

Did you. Did you go blowout meal on the way back in or ease in?

[Dan]

I eased in. That's what I called an hour after easing and I went blow out meal.

[Zach]

What was the.

[Memes]

What did you ease in with?

[Dan]

Bone broth and some carrots.

[Zach]

What'd you blow out with?

[Dan]

Just a huge plate of spaghetti and meat sauce.

[Zach]

Oh, what an evening.

[Dan]

It was great. And then ice cream.

[Max]

Zach, National Sports System, national sports podcast. What. What were your notes that you took from the Eagles article?

[Zach]

You want me to share a couple?

[Max]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Just like some things that I noticed that were in the article regularly pushing back on things that would diversify the offensive scheme. Hertz may be scared of his own coverage. Not the most coachable. Also, poor body language maybe hurts. Maybe. Surrounded by yes men. And with the Eagles passing game breaking completely down last season, they may have to heavily rely on Saquon Barkley moving forward.

[Memes]

The yes men thing, this is exact opposite of yes men. This is.

[Zach]

I was just going off the article.

[Max]

He's just going off the report, but

[Memes]

this report in itself proves that he. There's not yes men because it's people that don't agree.

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That's.

[Zach]

That's why you tweet him.

[Dan]

Get.

[Max]

Okay, yeah, yeah, You're. You're being a yes man right now.

[Dan]

Oh, update. See if Jeremy Fowler blocked you. I did have two other things. One, this is for upft, a pro Wemby stat.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Are you ready for this? The San Antonio spurs on Jan. 31 this year, or their record was 32 and 16. Their record on April 1, which was Wednesday, 57 and 18. They lost two games. Two games in the month of February and March.

[Max]

Yeah, they've been. They've been on a hell of a run. Also, our guy stat hole, he has put together a couple stats for me just to raise awareness to how good Wimby has. Has been, how effective he's been. He's got a new stat that he came out with. I love this stat. It's just called things. So it takes into account everything. Like, points are things, rebounds are things, blocks are things, steals are things. And Wimby leads SGA and things this season on a per game basis by. By quite a bit, actually. He's the number one guy in the NBA in terms of things per game. And also his defense is just so much better than SGA's. Wimby's number one by far in the entire NBA. B ball Paul is second, and then I think SGA is eighth on his own team in defense. So if defense matters, I feel like you got to go with that one.

[Dan]

You gotta. Yeah, you gotta. Okay, I've got two. I have two other things. Okay, go ahead. You go. Go ahead. No, you go. Well, I was gonna say, what. What do we think is a group knowing that LeBron James has most likely watched us? LeBron was on with our guys. Bob does sports.

[Max]

It's cool.

[Dan]

He probably saw Hank. Dave laughing, Hank's face when he was not allowed to play in the Internet Invitational. He saw you and Luke Kwan. Pft.

[Max]

He probably was blown away by me and nade shots. Camaraderie, though.

[Dan]

He saw. He saw me deny a bunch of appeals and do nothing else. That's pretty crazy.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, LeBron, like I said, I've said it. When, you know, we've talked about him doing the. The golf swings on the side, on the. On the sideline. It's like the. The farther we get, the more I'm like, I kind of love this guy. Like, we're. We're a lot more Alike than maybe I ever thought.

[Max]

That's you and LeBron.

[Hank]

He goes to work and thinks about golf. Then he goes home and watches. You know, Bob does sports in the Boys.

[Dan]

Like, yeah, same. Yeah.

[Max]

You guys are pretty much the same guy.

[Hank]

Pretty much.

[Dan]

Pretty much the same guy.

[Max]

He struggles to. To dunk now, too. Yeah, I. I think in the. In what I've seen so far from the video, he. LeBron might just be hilarious. He might just be a very funny guy.

[Memes]

I don't like you guys just switching up.

[Dan]

Like, I'm not.

[Max]

This is.

[Dan]

No, I'm not. No, no, no, I'm not. This is.

[Memes]

No, I. I've always liked LeBron.

[Stanford Steve]

This is golf. LeBron.

[Dan]

I'm not.

[Max]

This is golf. LeBron that we're talking about. LA golf.

[Dan]

LA golf. But I'm not. I'm not switching up.

[Max]

When he was talking about Memphis, that was very, very funny in the video. Like, he is. I've never seen LeBron do this sort of content before. I like it.

[Dan]

Yeah. I. Max, I want it on the record. I am very much looking forward to the opportunity for LeBron, and there's probably a.05 chance he actually competes in Internet invitational, but I'm looking forward to that moment when he's standing over a big putt. And I will say absolutely nothing, but I will laugh when Dave says something I like. I'm a pussy.

[Hank]

I was thinking about that as well. And I think in my head, in my imagination, it goes like, him being like, oh, I think I want to do the interpretational. And then someone on his team giving him a binder. Things that Dave has said and other people at barstool have said, and he's like, oh, maybe not.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. But imagine Dave standing over a LeBron putt. I mean, it would be a fever dream. It actually would be like, how did we end up in this. In this spot?

[Max]

Oh, LeBron and the Duke going out, day one as a team.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

By the way, incredible.

[Dan]

By the way, Tommy Lloyd, did you see his. His press conference? He's. I feel like he's the UNC head coach.

[Max]

I think he might be the UNC coach.

[Dan]

He said, I've got my full focus on this team. Nothing is distracting me. That's how I've decided to approach it. He's not a multitasker, and his wife would attest. I'm 100 locked in on Arizona basketball right now. I'm excited to see what this team could do. I have a real strong belief in this team, and this team deserves my Full attention. So what? That's what I'm giving them. I feel like when you. When you bring in your wife as a shield.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

As a character witness.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You're gone.

[Max]

Yeah. I think Tom.

[Dan]

Hey guys, I swear to God I'm not going to unc. Just ask my wife. Oh, she does? Oh, she's not doing a press conference. Well, if you could ask her, she would say the same.

[Max]

I think Ms. Lloyd might be very active on Chapel Hill Zillow right about now. Yeah, I think she might be cruising looking at some nice living rooms.

[Dan]

She's probably getting some tips from. From Jordan on. Yeah, she's probably getting some. Some. Some tips on where to brunch with Jordan.

[Max]

Oh yeah.

[Dan]

Let's look at Chap. Dude, Chapel Hill is one of those places that beautiful look incredible.

[Max]

Gorgeous there. Gorgeous. North Carolina in general.

[Dan]

Five million. Oh, you're going five milli.

[Max]

Top five state.

[Dan]

That's just land. We just got land for five milli. He's gotta. He can't be buying land. You can't be buying land. You got to be buying.06 that.

[Max]

That's what you can get for 6 milli. There.

[Dan]

Oh yeah. That's a nice house. That is pretty Tommy Lloyd. You're gonna like that.

[Max]

Yet two.

[Dan]

Oh, basketball.

[Memes]

Got a basketball.

[Max]

Basketball.

[Memes]

Basketball.

[Dan]

That probably was Tommy Lloyd's doing.

[Max]

Yep. Are they aided in to appeal to Tommy Lloyd?

[Dan]

I feel like though, I mean Arizona's a pretty nice place to live too.

[Max]

It is. But I mean you know, it's hot there.

[Dan]

It's hot in the summer.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But it's a dry heat.

[Max]

Swamp ass.

[Dan]

It's dry heat.

[Max]

The tiramisu sucks.

[Dan]

It's a dry heat. Okay, we got anything else? Should we get to our guy? Oh, anything. Masters Pre pre preview.

[Hank]

Sad pill's not playing.

[Dan]

Yeah. First time since that there will be at least one of Tiger or Phil.

[Max]

I'm sad about that too.

[Dan]

That is sad. I like seeing Phil out there. Oh wow. He's looking at a 13 million dollar Arizona house.

[Max]

You can get a better house in Arizona, but damn, the price is better in. In Chapel Hill. More bang for your buck.

[Dan]

Some of these houses on Zillow, when you get to that price point it's just. It looks like a museum. Like you. You would live in a house where you. You'd be worried that you'd break anything.

[Max]

And I think it's. They're the kinds of houses that you'd like still be finding out different features of your house after like two years of living there.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's just an insane Airbnb where it never feels like home.

[Max]

Yeah. I didn't know there was a fireplace in this room.

[Dan]

Just one time I would like. I would like for like a 13 million dollar house on Zillow to have in the living room just a lazy boy that looks like it's been farted in 7,000 times or just a room

[Max]

that's just a wall of TVs. Yeah, yeah, just give me. I wanna. I wanna know what normal house in America has the most TVs.

[Stanford Steve]

I got a lot.

[Max]

Yeah, you do have it.

[Dan]

Might.

[Max]

It might be you.

[Dan]

Might be. It might be me. Okay, let's get to our interview with Stanford Steve. And then we have Fyre fest to end the week before we get to

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[Dan]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest our. Due to the year he came on for conference championship week, we are not going to see him at the Final Four. Sadly, the tradition is. Is. Is broken. It is Stanford Steve. He's going to the women's Final Four with his daughters. Shout out dad of the Year due to the year and dad of the year. So because we're not going to see him, we figured, hey, let's have you on before the Final Four. What a Final Four it's going to be. Get all your thoughts. Are you going to regret not spending that Sunday with us though? Because that was. I think we did it probably six or seven years in a row. Sunday, Final Four. Go get wings with Steve. I'm sad.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, it's Indie Titus. Get him back off the mat. Get him out of the mud.

[Max]

Good luck.

[Stanford Steve]

See how he's doing. But yeah, I, If. If I'm gonna do trade. Trade you guys for something, it's got to be the family, right? Wifey and kids, Arizona. I figure it's a. It's a decent spot to go Scottsdale, but yeah, this is tradition that's broken and it's totally my fault. And I appreciate the lack of ball breaking on your part, Dan, but I know it'll. You guys haven't even gotten there and it'll probably pick up once a couple cocktails start flowing and that's how things go. But we're. We're big boys. We can handle things.

[Dan]

You hit my soft spot. Because I actually like as a kid, all I wanted to do was go to the Final Four and I, I am going to. I'm planning on someday. I actually was thinking about it this year, but my son's just. He's like. He's six years old. I don't know if he can do a full weekend. So in the future, I'm going to start bringing my kids to the Final Four. So you hit my soft spot. That's an excused absence. But let's do it. Let's hop in. What a Final Four. Oh, I totally forgot. Pft. Braylon Mullins hit that shot against Duke.

[Max]

Yeah, we should turn Off. We should talk a little bit about, about the Elite Eight, how we got here, Steve. So you were at the game, Steve, how close of a vantage point did you have of this shot?

[Stanford Steve]

If you see media, if you see Rob Dowster from field of 68, I'm sitting right next to him. Like he has a perfect video down the other end. I was on the other end, first row, saw the whole thing firsthand. So yeah, that was, that was an all timer. But I will say this, and people have their thoughts on what they do when their teams play and whatever, but this, you know, Dan has known me for a long time and I, I do believe in the happiness hedge. I do believe in the reverse jinx. Yeah. And that came to the all out fruition pre tournament. Let's just say Dan and I are in sort of the same pools and there are investments made in teams before the tournament and UConn is one of my teams for a possibility of some good finances. But to sit there and watch it, I, I always expect the worst, even being a Duke fan. And it was just sitting there the whole second half. Like Bill Raftery walks over to me at halftime of the game and we're just sitting there telling like, what's the line on this game? And I was like five. And he's like, who do you got? I'm like, the team that's down 13. He's like, oh, that's not good. I'm like, no, they'll make a run, we'll be fine. Like it's, it's it. The whole time I'm like, our house is going to be bad. How's this going to be bad? The history of Duke and UConn, you know, going all the way back. I think the last time in a tournament was that 04. But then, you know, you have the late in our years which really started up, I think Yukon's angst towards Duke and everybody has their story about Duke. So then Duke loses and it's always immediate. Like when it happens now because of the hatred and you guys are in this tier, it's like, all right, I'm not going on social media for like three days. So I get to Monday night, I get home, Scott and I do the show. It's probably three in the morning. We had Alex Caravan on the show. We, we did bad beats of the March college basketball season. We did something else. So I just go on to post those clips and the first thing I see is Dan talking about how he came multiple times on Sunday. And I'm Just like, this is why you don't go on social media. There's nothing good that's going to come out. You have to take a breather. I go back to the Packers super bowl with Brett Favre when they lost to the Broncos and I'm in college. It was like, all right, you can't watch SportsCenter for a week because that's all they talk about in that. And I think it's part of the grieving process. But to Dan's point, I still have this. Dan?

[Dan]

Yeah? What do you got?

[Stanford Steve]

And it's all I have to throw in your face.

[Dan]

Oh, 2015.

[Stanford Steve]

Yep, right there, buddy.

[Dan]

Listen, that's fine. Listen, I know that I've said this speech a billion times. I'll never get that back. But you know what I will get is a ring every time Duke goes out in tragic fashion. And holy shit, I'm like, remember, Remember the old Patrick Waugh quote, Like, I can't hear you because I got so many rings in my ears. That's what I got right now with Duke, because I got you. That was. I'm still coming, by the way. Like, right now, I'm coming.

[Stanford Steve]

I bet you are.

[Dan]

Wait. All right, so I will give you credit, Steve. You called this. You said Duke wasn't on your list. Yes, it was it because of the cause. Like, this is. This is what happened with them this year. They lost three games total, and all three of them, they had a massive lead and they couldn't figure it out in the end. My theory is this. And you could tell me if this is wrong. I think it's just the arrogance of Duke for these last two years, to hold on and kill Foster, obviously getting hurt hurts. But the arrogance of Duke the last two years being like, you know what? We don't need a true point guard. We don't need a guy who we can trust, who can get his shot off the dribble, who can bring. Who can break a press, who can, in those big moments, calm down the offense. They thought they could. They were better than basketball.

[Stanford Steve]

That's great that you look at that way. I'm sure they assess the roster, and I. I don't see how they're that hateable. I. I get everybody's Angstrom Sports K and how great he was. But, like, these guys, the last couple years have been just awesome to watch. What I will say, which I think is maddening, and it's got to be maddening for John Shire. And to your guys, point is, he was the point guard in 2010 on the national championship team. He was the guy that they ran a play for in that exact circumstance. Yep, give me the ball. They're going to follow me. I will go to the foul line and make the shots. And he did that throughout his career. So that, that's one thing. But, like, you know, you guys are football guys, and we say this all the time, whether it's college football or NFL football. And this is the way I kind of related to it is we have a rookie, say you got a rookie quarterback in the NFL, right? And he's going to the playoffs. And it's like, well, he's not a rookie anymore. He's got 15 starts and he's, you know, he's seen everything he needs to see, you know, as a rookie, goes, blah, blah, blah, all this. That's what Duke is, you know, relying on freshmen. You know, you say they're, you know, they're. They've lost two games. They've won 30 games. You know, they're not freshmen anymore. They're still freshmen. And the whole thing starts because Cam doesn't catch the ball clean. He gives it to Sar, and Sar gives it to Kaden, and that's what happens. So the, The. The. The presence of mind, too, of UConn in that instance, to not rush and foul or, you know, do something crazy and just take it in and wane it out, proved to be the best. And, you know, we had Caravan on. He talked. You know, you guys had Hurley on. It's really hard to simulate those kind of instances. And they said they do it in. In practice and they were ready for it. So all credit to them. It's. It's been an unbelievable run. But, you know, to that UConn point again, thanks for pointing that out, Dan. The list, it's 22 years in a row. All four teams are in the Final Four that were on the list. So it's, it's dicey at that point of the game, but UConn is a team, you know, what was say, three and a half weeks ago before the Marquette loss. They're on the one line.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

You know, like, they're like. And then, you know, they had a. I, I said alternate. They just. They were the number one team in the whole NCAA Tournament that just need to get out of their conference with the bullseye they have, how physical the Big east is, knowing the payback that was coming with St. John's in a collision course in the Big east championship to, to, you know, get back at them for the embarrassment that they gave them in Hartford. They just need to get out of the tournament. And it was, you know, one of my most disliked things with the brackets was seeing St. John's and UConn, two of the only two of three Big east teams. There was a third team that made it, right? Is there a third team that made it east 13?

[Max]

Was there a third team? Max?

[Dan]

Was there a third team?

[Stanford Steve]

I think that was.

[Memes]

You guys are the basketball guys here.

[Max]

Was there a third team?

[Dan]

All right, Matt.

[Stanford Steve]

Baseball.

[Max]

Hofstra.

[Dan]

Hofstra didn't make it.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

But to see those two teams in the same bracket, I honestly thought that they were going to meet in the Elite Eight to go the Final four. Duke beat St. John's yeah.

[Dan]

Duke whistle. Duke whistle.

[Stanford Steve]

Beat St. John's Got it.

[Max]

Okay, Steve, I want to jump back something you said about John Shire. He's been in that position so many times as a player.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Max]

Does that make it worse for him as a coach, the fact that, that he allowed this to happen?

[Stanford Steve]

I go back and forth. I'm sure he. It's. It's a rough one, you know, because you, you know, look at Tennessee. Great story. Elite 3 Elite Eights in a year and they get run out of the building by Michigan. And then you have Duke, who's, you know, was the one seed put in the toughest region and is right there on the Cusp 2 point lead with 10 seconds left. I think that's the art of coaching, right? Pft. Like you have to hand it off at some point. Like you can only put your guys in out there in certain situations. I, I think they would take that scenario back in a second. If that's what you got to do to go to the Final Four, they would take it. So I feel like the difference there,

[Max]

though is like Tennessee, Tennessee overachieve big time. Duke underachieved big time with the players that they have.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, that's the expectation thing. And I get it. Everybody wants a championship or the season sucks. Like Nebraska basketball. I know it's not in the same tier, but like they lose to arrival in Iowa, but they made, you know, they won their first two NCAA tournament games of all time. Good season. I'm not saying it's a. It's a successful season for Duke, but that's how hard it is to win, man. And when you magnify things down for what UConn has done, it's absolutely incredible. It is 17 and one for caravan on teams. It's. It's nuts with. And that's all you ask for right. In the NFL, you're playing all season to get in it. You know, they call it the tournament now, the, the playoffs. You want that opportunity. And what UConn has done with the opportunity has been unbelievable. And then you look at Duke's opportunities with double digit leads the last two years in a final four, in an elite eight, it's it, it hurts for sure because you're at that point, you put in all the work, you did everything you were supposed to do, and you can't close the door. But I thought this one was more of UConn making place because I go back to watching that in the first half. Yeah, the last 324, Duke doesn't score, they're up 19. And if you get that in thing into the 20s, you never know what's going to happen. UConn's got to change their style of play. They got to, you know, pick up pace and all that, and now you're really up against it. But the last 324, Duke, not so I think, you know, Sarma's two free throws and there wasn't too many field goal attempts, but that sort of weathered the storm. And then in that building, you know it, you guys both know it, that the, the 5050 fans, which, I mean it's a great basketball area here in D.C. and a lot of Maryland and Georgetown and anybody that's 50, 50, that's at that game is rooting for the underdog. And against Duke. Yeah, so it went from like 60, 40, I would say at the beginning of the game when Duke's rolling to at definitely 50, 50. And the momentum swung it even more. So it was a frenzy for sure.

[Dan]

And I want to have your back. Steve, you, you are right. Duke didn't have a bad year. I know that you were off, off social media, so you probably missed it, but I, I listened to a bunch of Duke podcasts on Monday morning and so you probably missed this, but this is from the Duke basketball roundup and they summed it up perfectly because you guys did hang banners. So this is the guys. It was the first time in Duke basketball history the duke teams won 35

[Max]

games in consecutive seasons in back to back years, folks.

[Dan]

How greedy are you? Yeah, are you really going to lament

[Max]

a lost season or something like that

[Dan]

in a year where we won 35 games and hung multiple banners? It was the first time. Multiple banners.

[Max]

Hardware.

[Stanford Steve]

And you just came again?

[Dan]

I just came again, Steve.

[Max]

I, I got one, one more question about this because like, you know, Big cat Played. You did, you did win 35 games back to back years. How.

[Dan]

Multiple banners.

[Max]

How greedy are you? Multiple banners. Where would this stack in terms of the disappointments of the last like six seasons for Duke basketball? So just to, to run it back, there was the loss in the final four against unc, which was Coach K's retirement. There was one season where Duke didn't even make the NCAA tournament as well. There was a loss against Tennessee in The round of 32, the loss against NC State in the Elite Eight, and then last year the loss in the final four against Houston. So I guess what I'm saying is this might not even be in the top four.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah. And when you're in the tournament that much and you go that far all the time, then. Right. It's really hard to rank still. The all timer is 95 with Grant Hill, Scotty Thurman in Arkansas making that shot at the end that, that, that really hit. Losing to Jason Kidd in 93 for Bobby Hurley not to go back to the lead eight. That one really hurt. So. Yeah, it's up there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

When you make it as a lot, it's, it's hard to decipher.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

I appreciate you bringing up all those great times. Yeah.

[Dan]

All right.

[Stanford Steve]

Well, friends do.

[Max]

People do forget the time that. Yeah, people forget the time that Duke didn't make the tournament. Yeah, we don't talk about that.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Who won it that year?

[Max]

That's a, that's a fair question, Steve.

[Stanford Steve]

Anybody put up a banner?

[Max]

It's a fair, the very fair question.

[Dan]

All right, Steve.

[Max]

China Wuhan.

[Dan]

Thank you for, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. No, I'm just kidding.

[Max]

Thank you. I want to say something nice, Steve.

[Dan]

As soon as you texted me, I said it. You did. He, Steve, said how much you could just do. Duke, you got. I was like, just a little touch. Just a tiny touch.

[Max]

Steve. Thank you. You gave, you gave out a very sharp pick at, at, at the, the start of the tournament. On the women's side, you said it was Texas and usc, South Carolina to make the final four. Parlay them. It was I believe, -125. I got it at. So thank you, Steve. That was a nice little nest egg I squirreled away from myself. Now I got some bullets ready to fire. Hope a lot of people out there took your advice.

[Stanford Steve]

I appreciate it. I, I woke up, I forgot about it too. Woke up the next morning to some text of people that put it in. I guess the day they listened.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

And woke up with a plus, buddy. So that's always great to do. But yeah, we're, we're trying. Yeah, if you listen, you could have had Duke not to win the region.

[Max]

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[Dan]

Okay, let's talk Final Four. I, I, I, I want to push back on something. That's the narrative that's going around right now, that the national championship is the late game on Saturday night. I think that's so disrespectful to UConn in Illinois. Two teams that absolutely can win this whole thing. And so I'll start with UConn. We just talked about him. But just to put it in perspective because we, we think alike a lot and we said this conference championship week when we were talking about it, that UConn is just. They get beat up in the Big East. In the Big east, they always have moments. The Marquette loss, all that stuff. Just to put into perspective, in the last four years, Yukon, UConn is 56 and 6 in their non conference and their losses are 1 at Allen Field House. Tough place to win. The absolute disaster in Maui where they lost three games and it was just a total shit show. And then they lost to the national champions last year by two points in Florida. And this year they lost to Arizona. Early in the season when they were down a couple starters, they lost by four. This team, when they get out of the conference is completely different. And so I think that like, discounting UConn in this game and possibly Monday night is crazy to me. How do you think this matchup is with Illinois? Because Illinois is also like, they're just so good. They're so big. They do everything. They play great ball. They, they spread the ball around. Keaton Wagler might be the best bang for a buck freshman we will ever see in the, in, in college basketball.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, and I made a mistake of going back and watching the first game when they played. Guys, it's even. Don't even bother.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

I mean, Kai Boswell leads Illinois in scoring 25 points. He handles the whole. The ball the whole game. Wagglers had foul trouble. I think he took three shots in the game. Terrace Reed was off an injury. UConn was still finding themselves, but UConn boat raced him solo. Ball was making shots, they made threes. Rybay played 22 minutes. I think he scored more. The terrorist Reed. So that's a waste of time. Illinois looks like a totally different team now. But I. To your point, Dan? I, I totally agree.

[Dan]

I'm just.

[Stanford Steve]

I think we should be fortunate that we are getting Arizona and Michigan to play like we're getting that game. And I said before the tournament we need to see like the combination of Arizona, Michigan and Florida, like maybe two games. But like those teams need to see each other. And then the way the bracket breaks out, we do get Arizona and Michigan in the final four. But I'm totally with you, Illinois, I mean, the fam. A two hour drive, I believe, from Champaign. You're a Chicago guy, you would know that and how orange goes and travels. There'll be. I never doubt Michigan because of the army that they have as a fan base, but there's going to be a whole hell of a lot of orange there. And then you got UConn, which when I think about it and what makes Hurley and that program so special. They're not afraid of a goddamn thing. Yeah, they go play Russia right now like they don't care where the game is. They're going to show up and play. So I think they're super dangerous. They still have versatility. Demery's not healthy at the point guard position, but Malachi's got plenty of experience and he was the guy that finally made a three for UConn. He was the first guy to make a three for UConn. Whoever had that in your player props of your. You cashed in big time. But this the winner of UConn. Illinois could for sure win the national championship. The problem is you got to win this one.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

And you mentioned the re. You know, the rematch aspect. It doesn't mean anything. You know, Wagler has been unbelievable in what he's done. And I, I think it was Stan Van that was calling his games and talk about the way he decelerates going to the Hoover and the way he has size and length in his ball handling and the overall size. I went and saw Illinois play Maryland here and I just couldn't believe, like starting lineups. They Come out how big they are. But I look at what UConn did to Duke and their size. They made guys run off screen. They made the bigs and all that size run on the, and work their asses off on the other side. So I think UConn does the same thing. I do think Mullins has a lot on him, like the social media aspect of today's game. A kid from Indiana going back, a kid that made the shot, I mean, doing the Today show, how does he handle that? There's not a better staff to handle that than Dan Hurley staff. So you have that factor in. And Solo ball is the guy that looks like there might be a wrist issue. But, you know, he's, I think he's under 30% now from 3. That doesn't bother me. He has plenty of experience. So I like UConn in the game. Illinois has been the most impressive team to me in getting here. And what the road was, having to go to Houston and do that, having to play, you know, everybody's favorite story in Iowa and, and, and having a game against them and arrival from your conference to get to a Final Four. That road is, is pretty darn impressive. But I, I, the experience of UConn and what Terrace Reid has done, we put up a graph.

[Dan]

Crazy.

[Stanford Steve]

Last night on SportsCenter. I just was thinking off the top of my head, you know, 31 and 27 against Furman being at the Michigan State game. You know, Michigan State comes back, takes the lead twice in that game. And Bo, every time after that happens, Hurley calls timeout, they run their offensive set. Where does the ball go? Down to the block. Reed gets a bucket. He's in the tier of Akeem Olajuwon and Bill Walton when it comes to points and rebounds and what you're averaging in an NCAA tournament. That's how special this run has been in the four games that he has played. So there's more trust for me in what UConn does. And with that, and I, I, I believe UConn wins a really, really close game.

[Dan]

I think Terror Street's going to be the big, big thing in this, because I don't, I think Illinois is going to let him shoot a lot. Like, I think they're going to say, hey, yeah, if you don't hit your threes, we're going to be fine. And, and we're going to make sure that you don't hit your threes and get comfortable. And UConn hasn't been hitting threes and be like, hey, Terror street, you can take 20 shots in this game. We can live with that. Especially with the, the size that Illinois has and on the glass like they, they will not let you like pound them on the glass so that it's okay, you know, Terrorist Reed, if he's getting the ball down low, it's not as much. Terror street has been awesome. As long as he can't get a couple shots. You know, he's getting a lot of his own rebounds. If they stop that. Illinois is just so tough. It's such a great game. It really is.

[Stanford Steve]

And like to your point too, they, they, they have so much size where they could just play behind Reed and say shoot over us.

[Dan]

Right?

[Stanford Steve]

But he is that. I mean his footwork is unbelievable. He was the best player on the floor against Duke and watching it was just so damn impressive. And the other thing, what UConn does is they run all that stuff at the beginning of the shot clock to get you out of position. Whether it's a switch, whether it's a, you know, a backdoor cut, you are out of position to defend different things. And we haven't really seen those back. You know, that caravan made great with clinging when they won the back to back titles. That stuff's still there. So Illinois has to be buttoned up. But to their point, they have been very, very improved defensively and that's why they've gotten here. They buckled down. Not many team people thought they could go to Houston and win an ugly game. They did that because they made threes, as you mentioned.

[Max]

So on the other side, Arizona, Michigan. I think everyone's going to be talking about the, the bigs in that and like will Michigan's defense, will they be able to stop Arizona's bigs? It's like a, that's, that's where I think most people's eyes are keying in on. But from your perspective, who is the most important player, Maybe not the best player in this game, but the most important one?

[Stanford Steve]

I think it's Karchenkov for Arizona because when you look at matchups and who's going to guard who, I really like the idea of Arizona having buries and Bradley to put on Cadeau being here in D.C. and going to the Duke, Michigan game. Duke beat them because they control the glass against all that size and Cadou couldn't make shots and now you have two guys that could trade off on guarding Cado. So I think, or I believe Arizona can frustrate Michigan offensively. And then in Karchenkov you have a guy I'M not saying he's gonna do it, but he can match size with athleticism against Yaks. You know, Lindenborg has been the best player, you know, in the tournament. When you look at, from moments and flashes and, and ones, alley oop throws and he's. I believe he's 6, 9, 2, 20, which is, which is some size going up and down the court. But Arizona has a guy. Del Orso is a guy who could come off and make threes. And if it does get tight, my favorite thing about Arizona is they don't care who scores. You know, co op had some big baskets while Purdue was making a run and, and buries can make threes. Bradley's as good as it. As it gets as far as, you know, having the ball in your hand late in a shot clock and getting a basket. So it. I favor Arizona. And then my, my biggest issue is the coaching matchup. I favor Michigan. I think Dusty May has an edge there bringing FAU to a, to a Final Four and then also handling. You know, we talked about expectations earlier. Like FAU had everybody back from that Final Four team. They didn't even. I don't even think they made the tournament. Yeah. And you have that. But he's had success with Michigan. He's got what he wants in that roster. And both teams are really capable of like a tidal wave, an avalanche in that, like in the Tennessee game, What was it, 22, 0 run in the first half. That puts that out. Arizona comes out in the second half and shuts down Purdue. So both teams get a lot of easy offense off their defense. Who, who has the bigger spurts in that? And they're not great three point shooting teams. And now you're going into a football stadium. And that also makes me weary of points and I hate doing it. And Dan, you'll probably hate even more. I think you got to take the under.

[Dan]

I. Listen, I'm going to be at the game.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I can't take an under at a game I'm at, but I actually.

[Stanford Steve]

Have you ever, like. Can you make a list of unders you've taken in person?

[Dan]

Never.

[Stanford Steve]

That's unbelievable. Start it. Just start it.

[Dan]

It'd be fun. Yeah. Never going back to Indy.

[Stanford Steve]

You've had great moments there as a fan.

[Dan]

I'll go to you. I'll go to you. Don't make us go back to. What angle did you like the most about the Braylon Mullen shot? What?

[Max]

The.

[Memes]

The.

[Dan]

No, I've. I've. I'm so stupid. I'll take Like I'll go to an early season Cubs game at Wrigley and see the flags blowing in and I'll be like over six and a half. Gotta do it. And then watch like a one nothing game and be like, fuck. Every, every ball hit hard, you know, ends up 20ft from the, from the ivy. The. So Michigan. Let me. I'm gonna push back on you. I kind of like Michigan in this game.

[Max]

Okay.

[Dan]

And here's why. I just. And maybe this will. This is why the matchup so fascinating to me. Michigan is the best team in the country at rim. Denial and letting team score at the rim. They don't let you do it. They just. They have the size to stop you at the rim. That's where Arizona wants to eat. It's a true best on best and it's kind of like a. It's a gamble of which best is going to win. I. I think it's we. Michigan's. I don't know.

[Stanford Steve]

I just love the bracket and how we got here with these four teams. And we get here and we have a what, one and a half point spread? And a two and a half. Two point spread. Yeah, maybe that's one. That's one's. One and a half. Two. Like, it's amazing how it all works out. I. Max is in a research guy. I was going to say. I want to say the last time UConn was an underdog in the Final four was in Detroit and they lost to Michigan State.

[Dan]

But anyway, no, they were probably an underdog with Ollie, weren't they?

[Stanford Steve]

Oh yeah, that was before.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's 24.

[Stanford Steve]

Sure. They beat Florida.

[Max]

Steve, do you think that Dusty May might be distracted, like actively trying to recruit Arizona's players during the game?

[Dan]

Good question. Pft. Yeah, really good question.

[Max]

Maybe he's talked to these guys and he's like, hey, I'll let you get 20 and 10 if you promise that you're going to be a Wolverine next year.

[Stanford Steve]

Oh, I thought you maybe because he was going to go to North Carolina.

[Max]

Oh, well, that too. Yeah. So he's probably taking the phone calls on that side. But then I think during the game he's gonna be like, I need. I need. I need this guy to be a Wolverine next year.

[Stanford Steve]

You can't doubt him with how he's gotten. Guys. Yeah, he's. He's hit. He's hit a pluses in the portal.

[Max]

But that is January, February, Izzo. May, May, May.

[Stanford Steve]

Hurley.

[Max]

That's. Yeah, there you go. That's the calendar.

[Stanford Steve]

Hurley's at the end of March.

[Max]

I, I am excited to see this matchup because I, I don't know if, if Arizona goes down, do you think they try to shoot the ball? You think they try to like, catch up, trying to hit threes, or do they just keep it up and say, we're going to pound you on the inside it?

[Stanford Steve]

I, I think officiating is huge. As to, you know, we've seen Margaret, you know, files early in games. A Walker got in file trouble against Purdue, who has plenty of size and he's not the biggest guy. He uses his girth to, to move guys around. So Arizona shoots open threes. I don't think they'll shy away from those. It's just a matter if, if you get down like, you know, UConn, if they get down double digits, We've seen that before. They're not going to shy away from anything. Arizona tends to stay with it. You know, I mentioned co op in that run, making those like 12 footers in the lane. Those are, those are shots you don't see anymore because it's, it's three pointers or dunks. But I don't see either team tense enough because both teams, I think big cat's a bit Ken Palm guy. What do you got for Ken Palm on these teams?

[Dan]

For what?

[Stanford Steve]

Michigan's what they gotta be top five offense, top defense.

[Dan]

They're. They're five offense, one defense.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, when he got in Arizona and

[Dan]

Arizona is for offense to defense, it couldn't be a better matchup. And by the way, the back to the over under, I actually like the under in the first game too. Yeah, I wouldn't bet it. But I think that those two teams

[Stanford Steve]

are going to like the trend and step up and take it under.

[Dan]

The way UConn and Illinois play, they are, they are very methodical with their possessions and they're, that's why they're so efficient. Especially Illinois is so efficient is they get the best shot and they're not, they're not trying to, you know, make it a track meet. They're just going to get great shots.

[Stanford Steve]

You should just like next year, you know, when all those playoff expectations come for the Bears, just take all under Caleb Williams player props that way wouldn't

[Dan]

have hit this year.

[Stanford Steve]

I was just saying if he doesn't play well, then you win money.

[Dan]

Which under, under, underarm props. Yeah, no, listen, there's a time to take unders. It's in a movie theater.

[Stanford Steve]

When, when, when have you movie unders.

[Dan]

You go to a Movie theater. You put it. You spray the board on the unders. You watch the movie for two hours. You come out and you say, oh, I won. I lost. I won. I lost. You go down the board and you're like, okay, I didn't have to sweat any of these out. I have to worry about.

[Max]

It's on games you don't watch.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Playing, but watching. I'm with Big Cat on this one. Watching a game live. If you're at the game and you took an under on it, that you might as well not go to the game.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Max]

It's like going to the game, be like, well, I'm. I'm signing up to have the worst time ever at this game.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah. But you could put yourself in a position where you can win really early.

[Max]

No, but that doesn't matter. No, you can't win early because with an under, you never know. Like, it's, It's. It's always alive. Like you can. The possibility of losing that bet is. Is always looming over you.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah. I think the Chiefs for the last super bowl they played in had that under him, which was dead lock. And Mahomes didn't come out of the game and threw touchdown.

[Dan]

Oh, so you're saying life's too short to bet the under sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Max]

Steve, while we have you here, you're also a football guy. What do you think's going on with Jalen? Hurts.

[Stanford Steve]

You know, I said on Sports center last night when Scott offered just the idea of Philadelphia and what it brings to the table, I think the medicine everyone in the world needs, whether you root for the Eagles or you don't, is a 4 and 13 season for the Eagles. It'll be great for everybody because it'll manage the expectations for Eagles fans. And then everyone else can remember what it was like back in the day when the Eagles were not a good football team. So I think that's. That's a great. A great synopsis. If they just want to go 4 and 13 and let everybody else in the. In the NFC east have a piece of the pie and, and everybody else that doesn't root for them, root for their teams, and they. We don't have to, you know, cover every waking second of that football.

[Max]

I'm sick of it.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, it's, It's. It's. It's. I mean, and we don't even live there, right?

[Dan]

Yeah, they are the economy, right, Max.

[Max]

I don't want to keep talking about them all the time, and. But they, they're just constantly shoved in my Face. And I don't want to keep bringing up Max because Max has health problems when he talks about the Eagles with his blood pressure. And I don't want to do that to him. So I'm just. I'm. I agree with you, Steve. I think let's. Everybody just. Let's take a step back and let the Eagles do what the Eagles are going to do.

[Dan]

Leave the. Max, you should recreate the Leave Brittany alone video.

[Stanford Steve]

And what's a. What's the flyer. I never see him anymore. Get him at Eagles games.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Flyers are fighting for a playoff spot.

[Dan]

Let's go. The lamp. Steve, what do you got for the women's. Do you have a. Do you have a bet? It was it. This is. I'm excited for the Women's Final Four. The tournament has not been great. It's just been buzz saw after buzz saw with all these teams.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, just look at the point spreads and what they did. And now we actually have point spreads in the single digits, which is mind blowing to me. I have like seven different bets on UConn to win it all from the, you know, beginning of the season. I got it. I think it was minus. I went and saw him play. They played in Annapolis here against Louisville. I think it was first game of the year. Bet him. I think it was around minus 190. It got all the way up to 280. I have. And now they're minus 180. And I think that. Just do that instead of having to worry about laying the six and a half.

[Max]

Okay.

[Stanford Steve]

I do like them. How about a UConn men's women's parlay? Moneyline parlay. That could be profitable money. I just don't see anyone untouching them. South Carolina doesn't shoot the ball well enough. I think Texas and UCLA are gonna have a battle. Texas beat UCLA. That's UCLA's only loss. But I just don't think they had. The winner of that game has enough to keep up with UConn offensively, you know, UConn, the Elite Eight got strong and Az Fudd taken away and the role player stepped up. It's just what Geno does. He grooms these players for these kind of moments. I love this press conference talking about the. The atrocity that the tournament is having to come do media at 7am in the morning and have a shoot around at 7pm they went from Fort Worth right to Arizona, so you got to assume they're locked in. And I just. I don't like the matchups right like as. As we see the tournament, the matchups for UConn. I don't like any for the opposing team and I trust Geno in this scenario. I think Sarah Strong and Az Foot are that good and I. I believe they cut the nets down.

[Max]

Are you going to be taking any unders at these games?

[Stanford Steve]

I was actually thinking about the Texas UCLA under.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Familiarity with that and you know, those teams seeing each other and you know, defending the three point line, that's what you got to do when you're rooting for that under.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

All right.

[Dan]

Yeah. All right, Steve, I got one last question for you. It's a Roback question. R H O B A C K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. No, it's a good one. Roback.com promo code.

[Max]

Take.

[Dan]

We made the bet before, before the tournament that if Duke wanted all you'd come to Max's bachelor party. Is it. Is there a chance you could still come to Max's bachelor party?

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Max]

Okay. Due to the year. That's why he's the dude of the year.

[Memes]

Be a great get.

[Dan]

Be our.

[Max]

The number one guy.

[Dan]

That'd be our 11 pick.

[Stanford Steve]

We could go through some contract negotiations.

[Dan]

Okay. Listen, all you gotta do is show up. Everything's paid for.

[Max]

Yeah. Steve, you would be. You'd be first overall out of the list of invites we have. Well, fanta, Fanta number one.

[Memes]

So many invites out there.

[Max]

Yeah. Kevin Willard. Well, he's good. It's a package deal.

[Stanford Steve]

What about Scott?

[Dan]

Scott? I haven't invited Scott. Should I invite Scott? There's zero.

[Stanford Steve]

He's a big fan of Max's. After the Maryland Philadelphia discussion.

[Max]

Oh. What do you say?

[Memes]

I just said what I was feeling. That's all I did.

[Stanford Steve]

I understand. I understand.

[Dan]

You gotta understand something about Scott's moments here. Yeah. Steve knows this obviously better than anyone. Scott Van Belt is literally like a Jack Jekyll and Hyde when it comes to like the. The. The part that you see and the nice. He's the nicest guy in the world. Like, such a good friend. But when Maryland basketball comes up, you don't want to be anywhere near him. Like, don't even admit that.

[Max]

Don't joke. It's not. It's not funny to him when you bust his balls.

[Dan]

There are no jokes about Maryland.

[Memes]

I agree. I don't think it's funny when you guys bust my balls every single day.

[Max]

Yeah. The difference. The rest of the world begs to differ.

[Memes]

Yeah, but I don't find it funny.

[Dan]

But we Do.

[Stanford Steve]

It's funny. It's hysterical.

[Dan]

All right, so it's.

[Stanford Steve]

It's not enough if you see Scott at Augusta this week when he's got the suit on and he's all like, don't bring up Maryland.

[Max]

No, no, don't. And we'll have him on the show after. After the Masters, as this tradition. Yeah, Max, you can. You can invite him face to face.

[Dan]

Yeah, we'll invite him in.

[Memes]

I. I have nothing bad to say about Maryland basketball.

[Max]

Yeah, that's my whole point.

[Memes]

I. I'm not sorry that I stole his coach. I. I just said that I don't think about Maryland basketball.

[Stanford Steve]

That's all.

[Memes]

That's all I was saying.

[Dan]

All right, I'm gonna face some right now. Let's see if he'll answer, because, like, imagine if we. What is.

[Memes]

He also can't hear me because I'm in the. Yeah, that won't even work.

[Stanford Steve]

When he said Butler's cabin. That's a perfect place to answer your face.

[Dan]

Yeah, but imagine, like, because there is the. You know, everyone's been in this spot where you over invite, and then if everyone says yes, what if Scott and Kevin Willard are just sharing a cabana on Saturday? Tops off just having some. Some drinks with the boys? That could be good.

[Max]

Yeah, that could be good. Men, fences. I like that.

[Memes]

I like that idea. Maybe we could find some unity between Maryland and Kevin Willard.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Steve, one last. Last question. You mentioned earlier, before we started taping, you might have a. A draft nugget for me. So I. I guess you're an insider now.

[Stanford Steve]

No, no, you guys, I was just doing some homework around here, down here in the district, you know, what are we, 400 days away from having the draft here?

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

But for this year's draft, who do you want the commanders to get at seven?

[Max]

All right, so I think that it. If the physical and the medicals check out, which is a big if, I don't have access to any of that information. Caleb Downs, I think. I think he might be the best player. I think he might be the best player in the entire draft. It's just about like, do you want to spend that pick on a safety, number one, and then number two, is he healthy medically? And then I've heard a lot of smoke about love recently that if love is available.

[Stanford Steve]

That's what I wanted to get. Love is always available.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Just remember that.

[Max]

Yeah. Keep an open heart.

[Stanford Steve]

I didn't like that Caleb Downs didn't run a 40. I'll just say that. Oh, anywhere I did not. I. I don't like that as a safety. Like, just run it. I mean, they say. They say the field, they run on at pro day, at Ohio State's 39 yards, too. So you're gonna have a good time.

[Max]

I mean, I've seen enough of him playing football that I know he's fast as shit. Like, I'm not worried about his speed.

[Stanford Steve]

Okay. As far as the running back goes, the last running back drafted in the top 10 to win a Super bowl with that team is the last running

[Max]

back drafted in the top 10 to win a Super bowl with Washington team, obviously.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Max]

With the team that they. That they picked drafted. Yeah. I don't know.

[Stanford Steve]

It's gonna be like Reggie Bush, but he didn't lead that team in rushing that year. Thomas led the Saints that year. And so you go back even farther. It's Jamal Lewis with the Ravens.

[Max]

Wow.

[Dan]

Wow.

[Stanford Steve]

So that's what scares me about Jeremiah Love, because I hate to admit it, but we kind of need a lot of pieces on the. On the roster here.

[Dan]

Well, that's the thing. It's like, if you draft a running back top 10 as a team, that's not one piece away, and a running back is one piece way. I think Jeremiah Love is incredible.

[Stanford Steve]

And I think guys like ezekiel Elliott was one.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Todd Gurley was one. Obviously, Barkley changed teams. McCaffrey changed teams. So it's just something. Just something. While you're watching, are you guys going to the draft?

[Dan]

No.

[Max]

No. No.

[Stanford Steve]

Remember when you used to go to the draft?

[Dan]

It's not that great. The problem with the draft is it's made for tv. And it also, like.

[Stanford Steve]

And Friday and Saturday are way. Are way more fun. As a fan.

[Dan]

Yeah. And. And you can't, like, no one's going to do an interview right before their biggest night of their life.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You know, they're not going to fuck that up.

[Stanford Steve]

And the teams aren't there.

[Dan]

Right. And the teams aren't there.

[Stanford Steve]

So, like, would you guys go to the draft if you were getting drafted?

[Max]

Yeah. Would you go fishing with your.

[Dan]

Fishing with my dad and Wisconsin Thomas?

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

If I was so Styles, would I go.

[Stanford Steve]

If you were Sonny Styles, would you go to the draft?

[Max]

Yeah, if I was. So I would try to be on camera as much as possible with my shirt off. Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

What if you were Ty Simpson?

[Max]

Yes. No, no, I would have Ty Simpson. That's a big. Like, when is this guy going to get picked? Possibility.

[Dan]

No, but I would. Here's why I would. If I were Ty Simpson one Orlovsky has been doing a great job of boosting up Ty Simpson and also we're going to have Ty Simpson on in a couple of weeks. So as soon as he comes on pmt. Look what we did for Josh Allen. Ty Simpson, top 10 pick. Might want to bet it right now before he comes on pmt. That's insider trading. That is insider trading.

[Max]

I think I, I, I'm excited that Pittsburgh gave all the kids in town the day off school. I think that's great. It's like, yeah, the NFL's in town so the schools aren't going to be a thing. Don't worry about that. I was, I respect their respect for the game of football, but I'm not going to go to the draft anymore. I don't think it's just like there's, it's so, it's so much better on TV and it's not even that good on tv.

[Stanford Steve]

Wow. So you're saying you could be better?

[Max]

I'm saying it. Well, yeah. I mean the draft is like essentially they call names and then you, you get excited about the name that you hear for your team.

[Stanford Steve]

You don't booger on the desk. Is that what you're saying?

[Max]

I'm just saying like the, the spectacle of the draft is not, I, I don't love watching it. I love finding out the information from the draft as it happens. But like, I don't know that you can make that a must watch TV endeavor.

[Stanford Steve]

They did cut down the time in between picks, so that's good.

[Max]

They did. Bad news for the Vikings.

[Dan]

I think we're do draft in the middle TV and then we'll have just Yukon Duke, last 10 seconds on replay on both sides. Steve. I, I'm not joking. We sat in the gambling cave. We, we rewatched it like seven times.

[Stanford Steve]

I bet you did.

[Dan]

Yeah. It was so good.

[Stanford Steve]

I'm coming in charge of that remote to keep rewinding.

[Max]

I think that it was unanimous. Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Who actually did it because I, that I always wonder about the games because I, I tune in. Like I said, I was not tuning in after that game. But you have. You guys had two separate cave, like one New York and one Chicago.

[Dan]

No, we just had the one here. We, I just, we just have a guy who actually was, I think it's been my assistant. Dom has been remote guy all, all March. He's done a good job. So he just has him in his hands. Do you know what we did too, Steve, is because of the stupid, you know, first two Rounds the. The scores are ahead. We put. We taped the TVs this year.

[Stanford Steve]

Love it. Great job.

[Dan]

Dom taped all the TVs for us.

[Stanford Steve]

That's a hell of a job because you had. I got. When I was at home, the off nights not being at the games, I had to put the game that was first on the direct cable.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

Tv. But then that game sped up.

[Dan]

The.

[Stanford Steve]

The second game that started, I think it was Iowa. Nebraska sped up. They were literally at the same time of the game in each. So. Yeah. You had to not look at the top of the screen. Great job by Dom getting the tape up there.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

It does seem like the easiest thing for them to fix.

[Dan]

Yeah. It's makes no sense. Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

There's. I can write a book on how we could fix the tournament. Yeah, it could be so much better.

[Dan]

Okay. Steve, you're the best. Enjoy the final Four in Arizona.

[Stanford Steve]

Everyone at JT's, you said hi?

[Dan]

Yes.

[Max]

Yeah. Please do.

[Dan]

Yes. Yeah. Are you going?

[Stanford Steve]

I believe so. You know, three kids under 12, I feel like JT is the best. A great spot to go.

[Dan]

That's fine.

[Max]

Get the medium, get the spicy, and then get the. The works.

[Stanford Steve]

I'm just gonna get like a variety and I'm just gonna call that the Titus.

[Dan]

Yeah, Crack the. Crack the window. Leave him in the car.

[Max]

It's not that hot in Arizona.

[Dan]

Hey, I'll be right back. I'm gonna eat 30 wings. Oh, imagine Steve.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

He's got.

[Dan]

He just leaves the car on with the ac. It's got the. The sign that people put for their dogs, like, don't worry, these three little girls have air conditioning. I'm just inside eating board.

[Stanford Steve]

Adane S. All right. You didn't go to Wrigley for that Angels game, did you? That was 10 degrees.

[Dan]

No, no.

[Stanford Steve]

Oh, my God. That looked cold.

[Dan]

The fact that we had to play five games in March in Chicago, the scheduling making makes no sense.

[Stanford Steve]

Every year, Major League Baseball.

[Dan]

Every year, Major League Baseball. Opening day should be literally today. That's when it should have been. It shouldn't have been last week. They. It just felt off. It should be right before the Final Four, so. All right, Steve, you're the best. Enjoy your trip.

[Stanford Steve]

Appreciate you guys.

[Max]

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[Dan]

Okay. Fire fest of the week. To wrap up the show, Hank wearing the Morgan and Morgan sweatshirt.

[Hank]

Morgan and Morgan.

[Dan]

That's a company man. Always, always, always.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Nice sweatpants. Thanks. Going to a strip club later.

[Stanford Steve]

What?

[Dan]

As a call back to our inside joke about Shane showing up to the bar on Friday with sweatpants on. And he said he was going to strip club later.

[Max]

Those exact sweatpants, the gray ones.

[Memes]

It was like. It looked exactly like you were.

[Max]

You wear gray sweatpants to a strip club. You were a brave man.

[Hank]

I know. Shane is rolling his eyes.

[Dan]

He's so bad right now.

[Hank]

This is not. This is not, not. I'm not.

[Max]

You fixing it bolted.

[Hank]

I don't want it.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't think he ended up going. But he did show up to the bar.

[Memes]

No, he went home and got changed after.

[Dan]

Yeah, it was a tough one for Shane. He had the exact same sweatpants on. And he's like, yeah, I'm thinking maybe we'll go to strip club tonight. And we always like in gray sweatpants.

[Hank]

I don't want to.

[Dan]

I would not have brought this up.

[Hank]

And I. I don't like to be the one to expose the boys. I would have brought it up unless it's topical. We did. We did. Also, I took the boys, the Airbnb boys out to dinner on Wednesday and he just came down wearing sweatpants. I was like, I don't think you can wear those. He's like, I didn't bring any of their pants.

[Dan]

Yeah, he didn't. I don't know what happened.

[Memes]

He's like the fifth time that's happened on a trip.

[Hank]

I was like, I don't like, you can try. I just don't want you to get turned away.

[Dan]

Right.

[Hank]

And then he kind of was like, I didn't bring other pants.

[Max]

I was like, why I'm gonna stand up for Shane. Sweatpants are. They're comfortable, but if you're packing for

[Dan]

a trip, you gotta.

[Max]

Yeah, you gotta pack.

[Memes]

At least you're also a crazy outfit guy, too.

[Max]

That's not necessarily true all the time,

[Dan]

but yeah, that's all right.

[Max]

I do pack. I always pack one pair of jeans. At least

[Memes]

you got to have one pair of jeans.

[Dan]

Next year on spring break. We. We got to get. We got to get.

[Hank]

Shane, you might not tell a story about your friend.

[Max]

What's up?

[Hank]

Can I tell a story about your

[Dan]

friend now that we're on the. Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

I was with 15, his two buddies from high school.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And same thing. We were going to dinner and his buddy from high school was wearing red capital sweatpants in a Washington commander's T shirt. And his other buddy's like, dude, you

[Max]

can't wear that to dinner.

[Hank]

And I was like, this is, this

[Stanford Steve]

is where you get it from.

[Hank]

People's like, yeah, come on, man. Like, you gotta at least wear some nice clothes.

[Max]

Come on. Yeah, take off those Washington capitals comfy sweatpants. No. Who, who gets dressed up like that?

[Hank]

Like, PFD is literally basically what you're wearing right now. I don't know what pants you're wearing.

[Max]

Yeah, no, he. Yeah, 99 of his. His is like team issued gear. But. Yeah, listen, I get it, Shane. Like, you want to be comfy, but like going to a strip club and sweatpants is. That's kind of wild.

[Dan]

That's.

[Max]

That's a wild boy.

[Dan]

I almost could.

[Max]

Great.

[Hank]

So I'm think black sweatpants.

[Dan]

Yeah. Say dark sweatpants and. But gray sweatpants. We, you know what around shoved up

[Max]

with you know what?

[Hank]

We.

[Max]

Instead of doing like matching shirts for Max. Max's bachelor party, we should get matching gray sweatpants for strip club night.

[Memes]

No thank.

[Max]

Get juicy written across the ass. Yeah. All right.

[Hank]

No, I am, I am just, just casual today.

[Dan]

I'm.

[Hank]

I'm I'm sick. I've got.

[Dan]

You actually are sick.

[Hank]

I've sneezed. I don't know if it's allergies. Like, I don't. I'm not an allergy.

[Dan]

No, it's not allergies.

[Hank]

I'm not allergy guy.

[Dan]

Don't have allergies.

[Hank]

I'm not allergy guy. I've never had allergies in my life,

[Dan]

so why would you say I don't know if it's allergies?

[Hank]

I have sneezed rough estimate, like, a hundred times in the past day and a half.

[Dan]

I can't stand max.

[Stanford Steve]

Does it.

[Dan]

Did this a couple weeks ago. Remember? You were sick? Yeah.

[Memes]

It was one day.

[Dan]

Yeah, but you were like, oh, it's allergies. Like, no, it's not.

[Memes]

It could have been allergies, but allergy

[Dan]

people use it as a. They're sick. And also, how could it be allergies? Still none of the changing of season, but none of the trees are starting.

[Hank]

It was nice on Monday. That's the thing. It was nice on Monday. And Tuesday. It was warm, and it got cold maybe some. I don't know. But I.

[Dan]

How do you get allergies when the trees aren't bu.

[Max]

Anytime the weather circ. Circulates, like, 25 degrees or 30 degrees back and forth, they're like, oh, it's the allergies. Changing the temperature.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's called spec. Allergies.

[Max]

It's called night and day.

[Hank]

I'm not blaming the allergies because I don't typically get.

[Dan]

You don't have aller. You're not allergic to anything. That's why you can't blame it. You're sick. But I just.

[Hank]

Yeah, I have some type of bug that has caused me to sneeze and, like, not sneeze once. It's like, when I sneeze, I sneeze, like, six times in a row, and I've had, like.

[Max]

You're sick.

[Hank]

Every hour or so.

[Dan]

You're sick.

[Max]

You're describing having a cold.

[Hank]

Yeah. So I got a cold.

[Dan]

Okay. Is that your fire vest?

[Hank]

That's my firefight. Well, like, you guys know when I sneeze, it's like, it's. It's violent and it's loud.

[Max]

It's worse than your Zach.

[Hank]

I mean, I was doing front of Zach, and he was like, what the is wrong with you? And it's like, there's nothing. I mean, we've said this before, but there's nothing worse than, like, sneezing is like, the worst thing that can happen to you sometimes it feels good.

[Max]

I like to sneeze, but what if you're.

[Hank]

When you sneeze and you don't have, like, a tissue or napkin snot rocket, and you're in front of someone and you just have to, like, sneeze, but then if you sneeze into your sweatshirt,

[Max]

it's like, oh, I hold it in. If I don't have something, I'll. I'll just straight up, like, plug my nose, you guys.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, my seas are way too powerful for that. You can't plug up, like, my brain, I think would explode if I tried to.

[Dan]

To.

[Hank]

To hold in that power.

[Dan]

Do you guys not rock it?

[Hank]

No.

[Max]

No.

[Dan]

I love snot rocking outside. It's great.

[Hank]

I don't really have. I don't have that in my arsenal.

[Dan]

Oh, it's. It's awesome.

[Max]

I'll miss it. Like, gets caught on your face.

[Dan]

You gotta really blow.

[Max]

Yeah, I really gotta let it have it.

[Dan]

Yeah, blow.

[Zach]

All right.

[Dan]

Pft.

[Max]

Feel better, Hank.

[Dan]

Yeah, feel better.

[Max]

We're all rooting for you.

[Hank]

Thanks.

[Max]

Get well soon. Appreciate it. My pretty good week for me this week. I did forget a birthday on April 1. I thought it was worse. I thought I forgot my dog Blake's birthday, but I got mixed up. It was actually Leroy's birthday on April 1, so happy retroactive birthday to Leroy, my dead dog. And then I also. I was actually just talking to Zach about this the other day, and before we came in here today, I decided that right now, if you've been watching the barstool State Farm basketball league that we've done, which has been a great series, I did. I pulled my calf on the first day of. Of warm ups and the first day of the games. And so I haven't really been able to exercise since then. And then when I started to do rehab on my calf, I pulled my other calf trying to exercise that. So I haven't been able to run. And I'm. I'm worried that I'm going to get really, really out of shape, even more so than I am right now. So I decided that would just start walking. I'm. I'm taking a page out of Frank the Tank's inspirational journey, and I'm going to try to get as many steps as I can in. One way to do that is with those, like, little walking pads. And I told. I. I told the fellas I was going to get one. And then your assistant Dom said, we actually have some that have been ordered that have never Been used. I was like, okay, let's get it set up. So Zach reminded me that I'm going to get it set up. The rule I came up for myself with is if I'm. If I'm scrolling, I'm strolling.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Max]

So I'm not going to let myself just mindlessly scroll through my phone.

[Dan]

Right.

[Max]

Unless I'm on the walking pad and I feel like that's gonna. My steps, they should be like easy. 10,000 a day, 12,000 a day. Like, I could check emails and stuff, but if I'm. If I'm scrolling, I'm strolling and.

[Dan]

But it's crying.

[Max]

It's really just started to. To occur to me how much strolling that's going to be a lot of stroll.

[Hank]

Like how many steps yesterday?

[Max]

Yesterday? 8,000 steps. 8,000. I forget the exact. I was strolling for a little bit, but I haven't got the pad set up. I just.

[Dan]

I got it.

[Max]

I strolled on my own. But I also. We did sit down and watch the baseball game yesterday for a little bit, and I was on my phone for that. But yeah, that's. If you look at your screen time. Just imagine if you took every second you were on your phone and you were walking somewhere. I feel like that's a great, crazy, great diet.

[Dan]

Yeah, I like it. I'll try it. I'm gonna get a couple pads set up, like randomly around the office.

[Max]

You're scrolling, you're strolling.

[Hank]

I'm trying to make a video right now. A compilation, I think. I literally didn't make a single shot in three games of the Barstool Basketball Association.

[Max]

Yeah, but you had that great block on Max.

[Hank]

I did that.

[Dan]

And also you don't take it that seriously. No. Right. So it doesn't matter.

[Max]

You made that layup against Katie.

[Hank]

I did make that.

[Max]

You yourself.

[Hank]

I made the layup.

[Dan]

Yeah, you yourself.

[Hank]

Well, I mean, I didn't like, bail out. I didn't pretend I was ready to go and then fake an injury like right when it started so I'd have to play.

[Max]

So at least I had that guy.

[Hank]

I wish at least I had that going for me.

[Max]

This is good, actually. This is progress because yesterday Hank told me that I was just retired from

[Hank]

all sports because my answers soccer thing, he's like, oh. I just. I'm not going to say it, cuz I. I support.

[Dan]

I know what you're going to say.

[Max]

Say it. Say it.

[Hank]

I support you.

[Dan]

I don't.

[Max]

I don't.

[Hank]

I don't want this to come. I don't want us to call less.

[Dan]

Just say it. He's injured a lot.

[Max]

This last year's been bad.

[Memes]

Never injured for golf. That's right.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I didn't say that.

[Hank]

Max said that. Max said that.

[Dan]

It's true.

[Max]

That's. No, that's not true. My back was up during the Ryder cup last year.

[Dan]

Yeah, but you played.

[Max]

Yeah, played through it.

[Dan]

Right.

[Max]

But here's. Okay, here's what it comes down.

[Dan]

Else you're too in. You're in a wheelchair is like, literally.

[Max]

I was literally in a wheelchair with, with the calves both being pulled at the same time. And I, I told you guys, like, a year ago. Is it golfing?

[Hank]

Well, so it's like, I think it might.

[Max]

Whatever's.

[Hank]

Whatever you got going on, it's working.

[Max]

I think I said this on the show, like, a year ago for some reason, in the mornings when I wake up, both my calves have been super tight. That was like, a year ago. I started to notice it. Then I pulled one, like, four times. Then I pulled the other one when I was trying to recover from the first one. I'm deathly afraid that unless I do, like, months worth of physical therapy, that it's going to be the Achilles.

[Dan]

So why, why don't you do physical therapy?

[Max]

I have been doing that.

[Dan]

Oh, you have. You've been going to a physical therapist?

[Max]

I went to one physical therapist. I got the exercises, and then I'm doing those on my own. That's how physical therapy works usually.

[Dan]

I think if you're actually afraid, you should go see the physical therapist like, two or three times a week.

[Max]

Well, I went to the physical therapist, and they said, here are the exercises you can do. And then I'm doing all those exercises. But, Hank.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, you're, you're, you go to the

[Memes]

physical therapist once a week, and then you do those on your own throughout the week, and then you go back.

[Max]

I'm not gonna go, though. I, I, Yeah, you're surprised.

[Memes]

You're just, you're just, you're, you may well just looked on YouTube, like, how do I do.

[Max]

I got this. Which I might have done.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, there's. Did you actually see a physical therapist?

[Max]

No, I just looked up. I, I did it, but I did. On YouTube. Yeah, I, like, I had an appointment. No therapist on YouTube.

[Dan]

This is the part with injuries, like, because, I mean, I do the same thing as you, where I was like, I, I think I got. When I hurt my calf. You did do the same exact. Yeah, no, no, I'm saying I hurt my Cat. But I. I know that it won't be. I know that I'm going to. I should be going to a physical therapist. When I hurt my back, when I threw up my back, I went to a physical therapist three times a week for, like, two months. That was the only way it got better. You can't get better unless you just go.

[Max]

I do have an appointment.

[Dan]

I. I fully understand. I. Fuck. I did the exact same thing of just not going.

[Max]

I do have an appointment that I didn't go. Next Tuesday morning, I have an appointment with. With the back doctor.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Max]

So that's locked in. And then I'm doing the physical therapy that I got from the doctor that I basically saw online. And I've been doing those exercises, and I'm walking. But I know that if I play in the soccer thing, it's like, this would be a bad time to pop the Achilles.

[Dan]

Agreed. Yeah, agreed. Very bad. I don't think it's a good time.

[Max]

There's not never a good time. But I'm. And I think the fact that I'm thinking about it makes it more likely that it's going to happen. So I got to get the Cavs back to being strong again, and then I can do your little soccer tournament.

[Dan]

Tank, by the way, speaking of doctors, I think I. Have you guys ever seen a dermatologist?

[Max]

No.

[Dan]

My wife signed me up for that. I don't want to go. You got good.

[Max]

You got good skin.

[Dan]

I know, but they're going to be like. They're probably going to be like, don't go in the sun or something.

[Memes]

I still got to find a primary care doctor. I haven't had.

[Dan]

I got one. He's good.

[Stanford Steve]

Years.

[Dan]

I got one. He's good. He's good. Yeah, he's a nerd. Like, big time nerd.

[Max]

Good.

[Memes]

We need it.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's.

[Memes]

I. I want my.

[Dan]

He's the one who, like, was like, what do you do? Like, remember I told the story that he. He asked, like, how many drinks I have a week? And I was like, I actually don't really drink. And then I caught myself. I was like. But I used to, like, get up because I was like, I don't want to look like a loser. He's like, yeah, I don't. Why are you telling me this? He was very honest with me. It's good. I don't care. All right. My firefight. Ready for this, Hank?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It is true. Fire fest. So last week, we went down to Scottsdale. Awesome trip. We're gonna do it Again next year. It was great time. So, like, I was with my kids for 90% of the trip. Then we did the show. And then on Friday, I played nine holes with PFT and my friend. I enjoyed golfing on Friday. He did.

[Max]

He really did.

[Dan]

I'm scared.

[Max]

We had a really good time.

[Dan]

I actually enjoyed golfing, and that is my fire fest.

[Hank]

It's a fun sport.

[Dan]

Like, we had a. It was me, BFD and my good, good friend, and we had a good.

[Max]

Very good. We had a blast.

[Dan]

It sucks.

[Max]

We had such a good time. I. I feel bad even saying this, but since you. You brought it up in the fire fest, we started playing some holes in the back nine as the. As the college basketball games were tipping off.

[Stanford Steve]

I said it.

[Dan]

I said to pfd. I was like, hank would it. Because I had the. I had the game out. I was watching it.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We were about the first five minutes of St. John's Duke. I was like, if Hank saw this, he would. Would. He would be killing me.

[Hank]

No, see, I. I'm. I'm. I'm supportive. Nothing but support.

[Dan]

Appreciate that.

[Memes]

This is. Yeah, this is Hank's. This is.

[Dan]

The fact that I was playing golf and enjoyed it is his dream. It's his last infinity stone. Me being like, hey, will you take me out golfing? I actually asked him to golf tomorrow. Yeah, because we're not scheduled. No. Yeah, because I have to go to Indy. But I was like, hey, maybe we'll find a. In my stupid brain. I was like, we'll find a course, like, halfway to. To Indianapolis. Stupid.

[Max]

Just stop on the way.

[Dan]

Yeah, it was stupid.

[Zach]

Okay, Zach, my firefights this week is. I think people on the Internet might just be too in on grammar. Too in on spelling. I've been attacked, unfortunately.

[Dan]

Spell protein.

[Zach]

We. We did this pro. All I have is pro. T I, N, E. I don't know. I don't have the other one.

[Max]

Wait. P, R, O, T, I, N, E. Yes.

[Zach]

Which is not correct. We just did this at the desk. That's not right. But I would. I don't. I don't have the other spelling.

[Dan]

Why are people attacking you?

[Zach]

It was. This is what happened.

[Max]

Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean you don't have the other spelling on you?

[Dan]

So I got the correct one. Matt, let Max tea this story. Okay. Go ahead, Max.

[Memes]

So we're sitting back here this morning. Zach shows me a bunch of replies to a comment that he had on Instagram. It was Gary Breca.

[Dan]

Tedx did a. Yeah, he did a

[Memes]

video of Himself throwing out a bunch of McDonald's being like, you don't need this. And Zach was like, I'm getting roasted by fitness people online right now. Because I said, what a waste to the. To this guy throwing out all these McDonald's. And it's bullshit. It's like everyone's roasting me because it's all just fitness guys. Memes pulls up the actual comment and he says, smh, what a waste. But spells it W A I S T. So no one is roasting him for his fitness. They are roasting him because he spelled it W A I S T. The

[Zach]

seed oil guys and the hydrogen water guys were coming after me and I just thought it was via them being fitness pilled. They knew waste was waste. That's one of the things I don't understand with spelling is. Or grammar is.

[Hank]

Were you trying to. Are you trying to smash.

[Dan]

When they read that, Can I see some of the replies?

[Memes]

They actually don't. Because in this scenario you could be talking about. Yeah, his weight.

[Max]

It could be a great compliment.

[Memes]

Those are two different things.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, you should.

[Memes]

You could be saying, wow, what a waste on Gary Brea.

[Zach]

That's a good point. Never mind. It sounds like I'm hitting on him now.

[Dan]

Complimenting his waist because he's throwing out the McDonald's.

[Zach]

That didn't click.

[Hank]

Damn.

[Max]

It is a double entendre. You actually sneaky made a great joke.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Max]

These people are being very mean to you.

[Dan]

Yeah, they are.

[Zach]

I just don't understand the oh, I

[Dan]

love this guy saying 1010 rage bait. Like, you did this on purpose.

[Zach]

That one felt good, but I didn't have the. I didn't have the courage to reply to me like, it was not on purpose.

[Dan]

Yeah, that was actually totally true. It was already.

[Max]

Oh, man, they are fitness pilled.

[Dan]

They're big time fitness build.

[Zach]

We've got a bunch of red light guys just going in on grammar.

[Dan]

Yeah, some of these guys are crazy, man. Like, they're just like, oh, yeah, alcohol is actually. No, I saw that. That. I think it was Grant Cardone, 10x. He was like, there's no good benefit to alcohol. It's like, okay, yeah, there is. What about, like hanging out with friends in college and partying and having a good time and like being able to talk to chicks.

[Max]

What about. What about getting drunk?

[Dan]

Yeah, that's.

[Max]

That's a pretty good orange right there.

[Dan]

Yeah. What about having a nice twisted tea on a backyard, Middle of July? Yeah. Fucking sick. Great times.

[Max]

A lot of benefits.

[Dan]

Love it. Good show. Hey, Are you guys streaming?

[Memes]

Zach, take the floor.

[Zach]

We're gonna be streaming on Friday.

[Dan]

What are you streaming or.

[Zach]

Me and Max gonna play the rewind game. We're gonna build a dynasty of vhs. Dynasty. We're gonna play retro rewind.

[Max]

You're opening a.

[Memes]

We're opening a video store virtually. And we're gonna start. Start this right after the act. We're gonna go for a couple hours. This is. This is the first week of the weekly Zach streams. I'm gonna join them tomorrow. We're gonna do it together.

[Stanford Steve]

It's gonna be funny on Zach.

[Memes]

Hop in the PMT YouTube chat.

[Dan]

Sign me up for. Probably not in the next two weeks, but after that, we still got to win with Oregon. We. That's. That's. We still owe a national title with Oregon.

[Zach]

It slipped away. It was right there. His fingertips.

[Hank]

I also just was playing fall guys before we did the show because it was up already on the computer, and I got to the final round and it said the graphics weren't updated for the final round and booted me.

[Memes]

That's a problem.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Shane, are you wearing sweatpants?

[Dan]

I think he's mad. He's not looking.

[Max]

Put the cans on. He's not looking.

[Hank]

Yeah, he rolled his eye roll that. He just did. I know. The second I got brought up is what he did.

[Max]

Shane, are you wearing. Are you mad at us?

[Dan]

I'm wearing sweatpants. Are you mad at us? There's nothing sacred anymore.

[Max]

What? The credit to me.

[Hank]

I said I didn't want to do this and I wasn't gonna do it.

[Dan]

Credit to me. I did say we did go. Yeah, it was you. You were having fun with it on Friday night. Maybe not. H. You thought it was funny, and then you didn't think it was funny. Definitely didn't think it was funny. Pft. Got you the t. The tiramisu was awesome.

[Max]

No, you were very.

[Dan]

No, like, the move to get me tiramisu was awesome.

[Memes]

I don't.

[Max]

Well, I don't need. I don't need a pity. Thank you. No, but I don't know what you want from me.

[Dan]

Do you want me to be legit with my reviews, or do you want me to agree?

[Max]

No, I agree with that. Yes, I do. But don't say you enjoyed the tiramisu. I enjoyed the move, but, like, I could gesture.

[Hank]

It was a terrible order.

[Dan]

Yeah, I just. I want to be 100 real with these. I can't be a joke here, you know, for the tiramisu. No, this is not.

[Max]

This is the farthest thing from a

[Dan]

joke right now, Shane. For the tiramisu crawl, we will all wear sweatpants.

[Memes]

Fair.

[Dan]

I was gonna anyway. Yeah, yeah. We will all wear the same gray sweatpants.

[Memes]

And we. We probably will be going to nice restaurants.

[Dan]

Yeah, let's do it. Maybe we finish tisu crawl with the strip club as you're all puking up.

[Max]

Teru got a lot of lady fingers at the strip club.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah. All right. Good show, boys. Let's finish it off with numbers. 23, 3, 16.

[Hank]

Because Max Homa just missed a birdie on the 16th. 16.

[Max]

I'm gonna go with 90.

[Memes]

56.

[Max]

9, 0.

[Zach]

19, 10.

[Dan]

Max is 69. Very 10.

[Max]

Super 10.

[Zach]

99.

[Stanford Steve]

Oh, it's.

[Hank]

When you're in, it's magic. Imagine living where we were last week.

[Memes]

I got tan last week, and so. And someone asked if I was on the peptide tan.

[Max]

Oh.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Which is an awesome compliment.

[Max]

Did you see that guy's. That guy's video?

[Memes]

What guy?

[Max]

The peptide tan guy.

[Stanford Steve]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

Someone sent it to me and it was.

[Dan]

And it was actually spider.

[Memes]

Spider sentence.

[Max]

It looks like it to me.

[Memes]

He was like, I know you're taking peptides. You looked really tan this week. Are you on the peptide?

[Max]

It looks like that. That picture of Hank.

[Dan]

35. 35, anyone? Anyone?

[Memes]

Anyone?

[Dan]

No? All right, let's do one more.

[Hank]

Gonna spread my wings.

[Dan]

23.

[Memes]

56.

[Max]

Sweet 16. 90.

[Memes]

Same number. Same again.

[Hank]

It's my chance.

[Dan]

Someone's getting it. Sweet 16. 73. 73. 73.

[Memes]

We just had 73, right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Max]

Numbers hot. The hottest in the world. Happy birthday to recurring guests of part of my take. Frank Kaminsky and Eric Andre.

[Dan]

Oh. Oh.

[Max]

Love you guys.

[Memes]

Also, Brandon Graham.

[Dan]

Happy birthday, Amanda Bynes.

[Max]

I'm retracting the.

[Dan]

Brandon, what is Frank's birthday?

[Max]

No, no. Happy birthday. What is Frank.

[Memes]

Happy birthday.

[Max]

Well, you can't.

[Memes]

Why are you being so rude to Brandon Graham?

[Max]

This is me and memes segment.

[Dan]

Yeah. When is Frank's birthday?

[Memes]

Well, memes. Brandon Graham.

[Max]

Wait, April, wait.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Max]

I think I looked up the wrong. It's.

[Stanford Steve]

It's Saturday.

[Max]

It's April 4th. Right.

[Hank]

Okay, so it's April 3rd.

[Max]

I know, I know. This show's remarkable how bad you are.

[Dan]

April 4th.

[Max]

I think I'm allowed to wish Frank Kaminsky a happy birthday on Saturday on a Friday episode of part of my team.

[Dan]

You're a joke, but I agree.

[Max]

Thank you. Memes with Hank.

[Dan]

Oh, man, that was good.

[Max]

When is Amanda Bynes birthday?

[Zach]

Third.

[Dan]

Same with Eddie Murphy and Al Balw. Oh, man. Frank Goodall. It is.

[Max]

It's. It's April 4th. It's not April 3rd. I'm sorry that I'm a day early.

[Memes]

Brando.

[Max]

Let hey, let me be the first to wish Frank Kaminsky and Eric Andre happy birthday. Love you guys.

[Memes]

Oh, Robin. Adam Scott. Oh, there's a bunch of birthdays today.

[Dan]

Adam Scott.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, and Luke mccaffrey. Happy birthday to Luke mccaffrey.

[Stanford Steve]

We already got.

[Dan]

Audio's going. Audio's going.

[Stanford Steve]

All right.

[Max]

Yeah, keep that in. Happy birthday. Luke McCaffrey looked up the wrong date. I am. I'm terrible at this. I'm trying.

[Memes]

All right, we're keeping it. All right, we're keeping it now.

[Max]

Every day I try.

[Dan]

Hi.

[Max]

I love you guys.

[Dan]

Hey.

[Zach]

Love you guys.

[Dan]

Love you guys. It.