Houston Texans HC Demeco Ryans, Chargers Beat Eagles In Crazy MNF, Phil Rivers Back, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

Summary

Pardon My Take – Episode Summary (December 10, 2025)

Episode Overview

This episode of Pardon My Take is packed with raw sports emotion, heated group chat drama, heated Eagles-Chargers postmortems, and a high-energy interview with Houston Texans head coach DeMeco Ryans. Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Hank, and Max rock through the fallout of a chaotic Monday Night Football (Chargers beating the Eagles), debate cursed objects (the infamous positivity bunny), recap Jerry O’Connell and Shane’s on-site reactions, and revel in the absurdity of Philip Rivers’ NFL comeback. The guys also deliver their iconic Hot Seat/Cool Throne, field relationship and sports agony questions on Guys on Chicks, and let the banter fly... sometimes at Max’s expense.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Monday Night Football Recap: Chargers Beat Eagles (02:26–24:50)

• Emotional Fallout: The pod opens with Max’s defection from the group text after the Eagles’ collapse, setting the tone for an episode drenched in football heartbreak and trolling (“Was your big move to just leave the group chat?” – Big Cat, 03:32).
• Game Analysis:
  • Justin Herbert’s toughness lauded (7 sacks, battered, still wins), with a broken hand and all (“Justin Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend.” – PFT, 08:21).
  • Defensive Dominance: Chargers D all over Hurts, standout coverage.
  • Historical Oddity: The wild double turnover play—first time a player commits two turnovers on one snap in NFL history (11:06).
• Eagles’ Troubles: The Max therapy session: Hurts and AJ Brown “had the worst game of their career” (12:01), offense “broken,” Max despairing about the team’s playoff future.
• Stat Battles & Blind Resumes: Hank’s blind resume segment compares Jalen Hurts’ stats (w/out Lane Johnson) unfavorably to Justin Fields (17:46).

Notable Quote:

“If they had snapped the ball to Jalen Hurts on every single play and he had puked all over himself and on the ball and ate the ball and then pooped the ball out... they would have had a 39.6 quarterback rating.”
— PFT Commenter, (16:19)

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2. The Infamous Positivity Bunny & Group Chat Meltdowns (36:12–44:41)

• Max’s Meltdown: The hosts try and (fail to) cheer up Max with an army of “positivity animals” after the Eagles’ loss; instead, he destroys the bunny and storms out.
• Group-Therapy-as-Content: The studio transforms into a zoo of plushies, all named and used to mock/improve Max’s mood.
• Classic PMT Trolling: “What are we gonna do with the bunny in the Eagles locker room?” — Big Cat (37:00), as Max torches the last symbol of good vibes.

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3. Monday Night Football: Live From the Stadium with Jerry O’Connell & Shane (28:12–35:44, 104:47–107:58)

• Jerry’s Field Report:
  • Tons of Eagles fans (“It was basically an Eagles home game.” – Jerry, 28:32).
  • Saw Joe Buck and Troy Aikman in person (“Troy could play for the Colts tomorrow; best shape of his life.” – Jerry, 32:31).
  • Saquon looks cooked on the interior but dangerous outside.
  • Compares the Eagles’ inability to run with his own sense of Max's gloom.
• Shane’s Take: (104:47–107:58)
  • First Chargers home game, “unreal” atmosphere.
  • Defense dominated, offense ugly, “heart was bumping” on the wild double-fumble play.
• Big Takeaway: Eagles offense stuck, Chargers D relentless, and live venue made the loss feel even more personal for Max.

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4. The Philip Rivers Comeback & Colts Meltdown (47:40–50:57, 75:44–76:09)

• The News: Philip Rivers, at age 44, signs to the Colts’ practice squad to potentially start again.
• Panel Reaction:
  • Excitement (“He’s so back, I am so excited.” – PFT, 47:40), but some concern for his safety vs. Seahawks D.
  • Comparison to Colts’ chaotic “Jeff Saturday as HC” moment; “Colts chaos is our content.”
• Impact on Hall of Fame Clock: Rivers pushes off retirement and potentially puts his HoF eligibility on ice.

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5. Interview: DeMeco Ryans, Head Coach, Houston Texans (66:27–92:57)

Major Themes

• Texans as the NFL’s “hottest team” – Coach isn’t fazed, stays humble (66:48).
• Rat Poison/Coach Speak: D’Amico welcomes negative bulletin board material but focuses on constant improvement: “It’s about stopping people... you win by getting critical stops.” (69:30).
• Defensive Identity: Lists “tone-setters” on defense (Lassiter, Petrie, Al-Shaair) who spark attitude.
• Turning the Season Around: Stresses resilience and young team learning to close, not folding after 0–3 start: “All we have to do is make a play here or there and we could be undefeated.” (77:56)
• Texans Playoff Outlook: Big Cat’s “pinky bet” at risk if the Texans make a Super Bowl run; Coach Ryans promises fan access if it comes to that.
• QB Room Love: High praise for backup Davis Mills and his “big neck” (84:10).
• Player Mindsets: Will Anderson’s “Terminator mode” (88:41), and how Nick Chubb leads without ever speaking.
• Coach Ryans’ Looks: Earns top three “most attractive head coach” designation; reveals hair routine (71:15–72:31).

Notable DeMeco Quotes:

“You win [games] by getting critical stops... It’s exciting for me just to see it all come together.” (69:30)
“We make that Super Bowl, you can do whatever you want, baby. You’re welcome here. Anything.” – on Super Bowl pinky promise, (79:46)

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6. Hot Seat/Cool Throne (44:13–59:00)

Hank:

• Hot Seat: 76ers, now sliding in standings; Celtics rolling (45:26).
• Cool Throne: Mike Tyson, possibly prepping for another boxing spectacle (44:16).

PFT:

• Hot Seat: NFL (“Philip Rivers is back!” – 47:40).
• Cool Throne: Winning the breakup; [Notre Dame-ACC college football drama] (51:16–54:59).

Big Cat:

• Hot Seat: Colts GM Chris Ballard, under the gun for never winning AFC South (55:15).
• Cool Throne: Penn State (new coach Matt Campbell gets some positive spin – 58:49).

Zach/Max:

• Hot Seat: Oversharing on Twitter (Quentin Jammer’s “I played drunk” confessions, (60:15–61:40)).
• Cool Throne: Dodgers (after adding Edwin Diaz, world dominance discussed) (62:08–63:11).

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7. Guys on Chicks (94:03–101:38)

Sample Questions & Wisdom:

• “Why is my boyfriend so bad at keeping secrets?” – Breaking down the modern engagement process, the inevitability of spoiled surprises, and guys’ psychological weakness for immediate gifts.
• “Will I ever win the emotional sports battle with my fiancé?” – Advice for suffering sports fans and their partners (“Wait ‘til you have kids, then emotional stability matters.” – Big Cat, 98:43).
• “Why are my work jokes only funny when a guy repeats them a week later?” – Delivery, physical comedy, and gender in the office. (“It means you’re too skinny.” – PFT, 100:38).

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8. Lottery Ball & Outro Shenanigans (107:58–113:43)

• The usual chaos with lottery ball guessing, memes swapping favorite numbers, and the gang trying (and failing) to break the curse as Hank faces cancellation for a number “scandal.”

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Notable Quotes

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 08:21 | PFT | “Justin Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend. That's the first time that honor has been bestowed on a quarterback.” | | 12:01 | Max | “Two of your top three players just had the worst game of their career... and you still almost won.” | | 16:19 | PFT | “If they had snapped the ball to Jalen Hurts on every single play and he had puked all over himself... they'd have had a 39.6 quarterback rating.” | | 66:48 | DeMeco Ryans | “Maybe the hottest team, but it doesn't matter... you just got to keep going out, executing, doing what we have to do to continue to win games.” | | 69:30 | DeMeco Ryans | “It’s about stopping people. Everybody gets caught up in the offenses and scoring points... you win it by getting critical stops.” | | 71:15 | Big Cat | “We have you ranked top three most attractive head coaches in the NFL. Are you cool with that?” | | 79:46 | DeMeco Ryans | “We make that Super Bowl, you can do whatever you want, baby. You’re welcome here. Anything.” |

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Highlighted Segments (Timestamps)

• Monday Night Football Recap: 02:26–24:50
• The Positivity Bunny Meltdown: 36:12–44:41
• Live at MNF: Jerry and Shane: 28:12–35:44, 104:47–107:58
• Philip Rivers Comeback Reaction: 47:40–50:57, 75:44–76:09
• DeMeco Ryans Interview: 66:27–92:57
• Hot Seat/Cool Throne: 44:13–59:00
• Guys on Chicks: 94:03–101:38
• Lottery Ball & Outro: 107:58–113:43

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

The tone is quintessential PMT: part locker-room ball-busting, part therapy, part absurdist sports theater. Between memorable quotes (“Justin Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend”), inside jokes, emotional outbursts from Max, and the insightful presence of DeMeco Ryans, this episode is packed with both real NFL analysis and signature Barstool chaos. The Eagles’ pain is palpable. The Chargers get their prime time due. And somewhere, Big Cat’s pinky hangs in the balance.

For listeners: Whether laughing at the drama of group chats or genuinely learning about evolving NFL defenses from D’Amico Ryans, this episode is a classic blend of sports heartbreak therapy, top-tier trolling, and football nerd insights.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Today is Wednesday, December 10th and the Philadelphia Eagles lose to the Los Angeles Chargers on Monday night Football. So, so close to doing an emergency pod. But we are here the next day recording, ready to break it all down.

[PFT Commenter]

We have not talked to Max at all.

[Big Cat]

We made a rule last night.

[PFT Commenter]

He left the the part of my take group chat. He also left the group chat with myself, Big Cat and Jerry and he has been off.

[Max]

So we're, we're just talking about what happens in part of my take group chats. Now we're Just, we're just, we're just releasing screenshots now of you leaving.

[Big Cat]

That was funny.

[Max]

I thought that was okay that you.

[Big Cat]

Didn'T think that was funny. That's the, that's the angle you're gonna come with?

[PFT Commenter]

That's not, it's not.

[Big Cat]

Max left the group chat. It didn't have any other words to it. Did you think we weren't going to bring that up on this show?

[Max]

I always thought screenshots of the, of the group.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't, it wasn't a screenshot of anything that was said. It was just Max has left the conversation.

This is a, this is a wild. This is a sad stretch with. Listen, Max, was that your big move? Was your big move here?

[Max]

I didn't even thought about it until you brought it up again, but I was mad about it last night.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, let's talk about the game, Max. Let's talk about the game.

[D'Amico Ryan]

He also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, I, I don't think people.

[PFT Commenter]

Don'T listen to us bully you about the Eagles. They want to hear our analysis of the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, Max, real quick question, because there was a moment when you left. So you left the pardon my take group text, then Jerry o' Connell left you. We pft. Texted and said, did we win fantasy, and then you left that group text. I was thinking about starting to text every group text we were in together. Would you have left them all? Like, if I had texted in the Stella Blue group text, you would have left it? Yeah.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

You just would have left everything.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, there's a button on your phone you can press, and it is do not disturb.

[Max]

And then I turn that into.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you don't get any notifications.

[Max]

Jerry kept adding me back, so I did end up doing that to the Jerry o' Connell one.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You can do that for your whole phone, though.

[Max]

There's also a. I needed, I need.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a do not disturb option for life, which is just going to sleep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's impossible. Close your eyes. Go to sleep. Okay. So, yeah, let's talk about the game, because it was the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a crazy game.

[Big Cat]

Ton of credit. Justin Herbert, he just gets his ass kicked every time he plays. He was sacked seven times. The Chargers defense played phenomenal, and the Chargers winning was enormous because I was looking at it this morning. It. This is all under the presumption that the Colts nosedive, which we'll talk about Phil Rivers in a second. But the Colts are in some tough, deep waters because they have a really tough schedule, and Daniel Jones has officially a torn Achilles. So the Chargers winning means that if they just win one single game, which would be Week 18 against the Broncos, where the Broncos might be sitting everyone, they would get in over the Chiefs. So they're. The Chiefs have a path now that is very, very precarious. And the Chargers feel like they have a stranglehold on getting into the playoffs. And Justin Herbert, just an absolute gamer. Cameron Dicker, who I didn't realize was the most, is the most accurate kicker of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that's. That's changed like four times in the last five years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it was Justin Tucker for a while, I think. Then Young Way COO took it.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

It might have gone back to Justin Tucker. And then now Dicker's got it. It's just whoever the most recent good kicker is has that record.

[Big Cat]

And then we had Jim Harbaugh with a great quote after he said this just tells you how big this game was. He said he'd put it in the discussion of the birth of my seven children, my marriage, you know, in the conversation. Just joyful, joyous. And the biblical definition of that is just overflowing with joy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a gape that.

[Big Cat]

That was what he need. That's, that's. That's how he felt after this game. That's how much it meant for the Chargers have a tough schedule coming up. And winning this game was crucial for them to secure a playoff birth.

[PFT Commenter]

He was a agape. Agape as after the game when he saw Justin Herbert on the field after he looked at him. And I think in Harbaugh's brain, Justin Herbert is no different from his sons. The look that he gave him after the game was like a proud father. You did it, son. I'm so happy for you. And Justin Herbert is tough as playing with broken hand. He did. I. I think everybody that watched him that first quarter could identify with him. He had. He had like a cast on his hand. And if you ever have an injury, you just can't, like, stop touching it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And just like noticing it with your other hand. And he was just doing that to his own hand. Obviously in pain when he fell on it. But then in the fourth quarter, he was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to run with the football because he was having problems throwing it downfield with his accuracy underneath. He was great. I think he had like a perfect passer rating on throws that went under 10 yards.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Couldn't throw it downfield. But then at the end, he was like, I'm going to run with the football and I'm going to land on my healthy hand and we'll see if they can stop me. And they weren't able to do it. Now. The Chargers have a long history of chargering. It's kind of adjacent to falconing and Clemsoning. And Clemsoning. But now they've kind of twisted the narrative around because the Chargers have now won six straight games in prime time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is the longest streak in the NFL, by far the longest streak in franchise history. The Chargers are, they're just like a solid football team. They're a tough football team. I don't think they were spectacular last night. No, they actually, their defense was.

[Big Cat]

They actually weren't because Justin Herbert is the only NFL QB in the Super bowl era to complete under 50% of his passes, throw for under 150 yards, get sacked seven plus times, have multiple turnovers and still win the game. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And we'll talk to Dan Orlovsky about this at some point, but he had, he had a great take after the game. He said, the Eagles are in the shotgun way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way too much.

I think I said all the ways. I'll do it again. The Eagles are in the shotgun way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way too much. Herbert is an animal champion warrior legend. Animal champion warrior legend. That's a. I think that's the first time that honor has been bestowed on a quarterback. But I, I don't disagree with Dan. I think he's right.

[Big Cat]

Just, Herbert is tough as he also. We had a. I, I don't want to say controversy because I ultimately do not give a. But he did shake off Laura Rutledge after. On a lot, on a hot mic, being like, I'm trying to celebrate with my team. So there's obviously a lot of journalists, media members coming out of the woodworks being like, how could you do this? Laura is like doing her job. The media, you know, deals pay for this league. I thought it was just. He did the interview right after and he was fine in the interview. I had no problem with it. He was, he's, he was probably, he just got beat to hell on Monday Night Football, won an improbable game where it looked like they were going to lose. And he had one comment where he's like, yeah, I'm just looking for my teammates. All right, fine, I'll do the interview. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He realized, okay, total nothing Burger. That's right. I have a, I have an obligation to do this interview, like, I don't think 90% of players, I think, would probably skip that interview if they had. If. If it was their option, but it's mandated. So he was like, okay, yeah, I guess I'll do it. Thank you for reminding me. And then he did the interview and she was like, how does it feel? And he was like, it feels great to win a football game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So we got that information from him, which is. Which is very positive. I thought that the Chargers, they're. They're going to be the definition of a tough out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is what they'll be. Because I think, no. No matter what's going on with the injuries, if it's Herbert, if it's their offensive line or whatever, Harbaugh is just going to have him ready to play.

[Big Cat]

And it is such a bummer. I mean, everyone. Every team deals with injuries, but no Rashawn Slater, no Joe Alt. Like, this does feel like a team that could be super bowl worthy if they had both of their tackles. And because it is such a glaring issue to get sacked that many times, to be under pressure that many times, they're. They're just playing with one hand behind their back and they're finding a way because Harbaugh is that kind of guy.

[PFT Commenter]

And also the defense is really good.

[Big Cat]

The defense is playing well.

[PFT Commenter]

The defensive backs were awesome last night. They were all over the Eagles receivers. They got no separation. They were getting hands on the ball. Good job by the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

So the Eagles, Max, how Talk us through this game. It was crazy. It felt like there was 25 fumbles. We had the incredible Jalen Hurts interception and fumble in the same play.

[Hank]

First time it's happened.

[Big Cat]

First time that's happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's the first time since at least 1978 that any player had committed two turnovers on the same play. But the stats don't go back past 1978, so it could be the first time in NFL history that's happened because.

[Big Cat]

Lamar did threw a pick and then covered a fumble. Yeah, I think last year. But he didn't then fumble again, which is the crucial part of this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So, Max, how are you feeling?

[Max]

Bad. I mean, your. Two of your top three players just had the worst game of their career in the same night, which were Jalen Hurts and A.J. brown. Both had the worst games of their career last night. And you still almost won the game because the defense was absolutely insane. And credit to Vic Fangio and that defense for somehow keeping the Eagles in that game. But just no one could make a play no one could make a play. Saquon, I guess we scored a 50 yard touchdown on a. On a gimmicky play, but. And he had 122 yards. But if you take away. If you take away his top three carries, I think it was another very pedestrian game for Saquon.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think the point of running the ball with Saquon is you commit to running so that they ran it. He does have those breakout carries, but he had 2.

[Max]

He had two breakout carries in the first quarter and then they. They were trying to get him the ball and he was getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage every single time. Like, I get that he had. That he had the long run, but that was basically essentially a trick play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you can't.

[Max]

Like, that wasn't just like a run, like a run up the middle that are. That was like great blocking and we. And it looked like the Eagles of old last year. It was a trick play.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy watching Jalen Hurts because he threw that ball to A.J. brown that A.J. brown should have caught. If he catches that, none of this discussion is happening.

[Max]

Three of them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he threw that one to devonte Smith in the. In overtime. That was an absolute, like, rocket, perfect throw in coverage. So he had moments where he looked good, but he had four interceptions in a fumble and did it.

You did call Justin Herbert the big stupid pick guy.

[Max]

Justin Jalen Hurts just threw four interceptions and has half as many picks as Justin Herbert on the year. So I don't want to like, yes, Jalen Hurts threw a bunch of picks last night. He still has half as many as Justin Herbert on the year.

[Big Cat]

So in this game, who is the more big stupid pick guy?

[Max]

So I'm just asking, what about in the playoffs last year? Justin Herbert threw for four picks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So like, yes, he had a. He was. He had a big stupid pick game.

[Big Cat]

Do you think it was that? But Justin Herbert. The big stupid picks, though, because you had a big stupid pick guy. Justin Herbert.

[Max]

Justin Herbert also threw a stupid pick.

[Big Cat]

I understand, but I was there.

[PFT Commenter]

You said stupid picks. He threw a stupid pick last night.

[Max]

I said, I. I never said stupid picks. You said that.

[PFT Commenter]

Justin Herbert.

[Max]

I said big stupid picks guy. You are misquoting me.

[PFT Commenter]

How am I misquoting it?

[Max]

I never. It was always big stupid pick guy.

[PFT Commenter]

It was never big stupid picks guy.

[Big Cat]

But do you think.

[Max]

How many times have you tweeted it? Who's right?

[Big Cat]

Do you think, though, there was a passing of the torch on the big stupid pick guy?

[Max]

It was a bad Game. I mean, see, this is why you guys are pieces of shit.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Max]

Because how many fucking times do you guys do this bit of, oh, Jalen Hurts. Need to throw more interceptions. He needs to. He needs to go out. He needs to go out there and like, throw more interceptions. It actually be good for him. And then he goes and throws interceptions and it's like, oh, no, maybe Jalen hurts. He's got to stop throwing so many interceptions.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

If you had.

[Max]

That's what you guys fucking do every fucking time.

[PFT Commenter]

One of Those. Waited for 15 minutes.

[Hank]

Who is that? Is that just a combination?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's just a.

[PFT Commenter]

If you had waited for five minutes, I was about to say that this was probably a great game for Jalen Hurts because he was throwing picks. Yeah, he was taking shots downfield.

[Big Cat]

But you cut him off.

[Max]

I mean, Justin Herbert still has. Justin Herbert has 11 picks on the year. Jalen Hurts is six after he just threw four in a game.

[PFT Commenter]

But head to head, Head to head matters.

[Max]

I've been told that winning and losing does not matter in this for a quarterback. I've been told that for years.

[PFT Commenter]

That doesn't.

[Big Cat]

Are you.

[Max]

I've been told that for years that. That winning and losing is not a quarterback stat.

[Big Cat]

Are you down on Jalen Hurts?

[Max]

Of course you have to be down on Jalen Hurts. But I'm not Jalen Hurts. It's insane that. The way that people talk about Eagles fans, it's like spoiled Eagles fans, Spoiled Eagles fans, spoiled. Oh, you're going to boo your super bowl champion team. Oh, what a ridiculous fan base you are. And then as soon as your. Your quarterback, your Super Bowl MVP has one bad game, it's like, how can Eagles fans defend this guy? He's always fucking sucked. Well, are we the spoiled fans or. Or are we the delusional fans? Because he can't have it both ways.

[Big Cat]

Hold on. I've never said you're spoiled fans.

[Max]

No, I. But you know, you know, that's, you know, that's a narrative.

[Big Cat]

I always back Philly and the fact that I like that they boo and they're smart football fans and they knew this offense was broken before it became a big storyline.

[Max]

Yeah. Yes. But. But you know, that's. You know that that's a storyline.

[Big Cat]

And the offense is broken. They have scored the only team that has scored less touchdowns than the Eagles over the past five weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to guess commies.

[Big Cat]

Nope.

[Max]

Raiders. And they play on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a stat here from last night.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Jay. Yeah, Jalen hurts quarterback rating was 31.3 last night.

[Big Cat]

Oh, what?

[Hank]

That he could.

[Max]

That he could have spiked it every time and had a. Had a higher quarterback rating.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not what I was going to say next. That's not what I was going to say.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Next. Not what I was going to say.

[Big Cat]

Next to you, but he can't.

[Hank]

All right, next.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I have to finish my stat.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So we had a 31.3 quarterback rating against the Chargers. If they had snapped the ball to Jalen Hurts on every single play and he had puked all over himself and on the ball and ate the ball and then pooped the ball out onto the ground and then throwing the ball forward after he recovered his poop shit puke ball.

[Max]

So you're just.

[PFT Commenter]

They would have had a 39. They would have had a 39.6.

[Max]

The stat that I just said.

[PFT Commenter]

No, my stat. No. Was completely different.

[Big Cat]

His stat had puking.

[Max]

All right, Hank, Go blind.

[Big Cat]

Resume.

[Hank]

Blind resume. QB1. 17 games, 2700 passing yards, 16 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, 78.2 passer reading.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

QB2. 15 games, 2200 yards, 17 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, 85.2 pass rating.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I think I'd take QB2.

[PFT Commenter]

QB2 sounds. But he's only played 15. How many games?

[Big Cat]

15. Two less games.

[Hank]

15 games. One more interception, two less interceptions, and one more touchdown. Two less interceptions.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I. I take QB2.

[Big Cat]

QB2.

[Max]

I wasn't listening. Continue.

[Hank]

QB1 is Jaylen Herz without Lane Johnson. QB2 is Justin Fields in 2022.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow. That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

That is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a wild stat. Cool.

[Max]

You want to do the super bowl stats?

[PFT Commenter]

You got some.

Max resume, Max.

[Big Cat]

Blind resume and back.

[Max]

I don't. I don't come. I don't come to this. This fucking program with bullshit biased stats.

[PFT Commenter]

I was told that wins don't matter, Max. Now you want to talk about the Super Bowl?

[Max]

We don't have to go in the wins. Yeah, just go into stats.

[Big Cat]

Wait, Hank is right, though. Blind resume is. Is not biased by definition.

[Hank]

If it was.

[Max]

You also picked, like, specifically without his best offensive lineman.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

System quarterback.

[Big Cat]

He needs his. He needs Lane Johnson. He needs Lane Johnson merchant.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

He needs his Johnson Merchant.

[Max]

Max, I'm not looking up anything. This is Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question for you. Max, did the Eagles play with joy last night?

[Max]

That was bullshit. That was a quote.

[Big Cat]

Nick Sirianni said needs to. Yeah. What do you mean by that?

[Max]

Nick Sirianni said that. I guess it was at halftime.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

He said that he liked that the team was playing with confidence and joy in the first half and that they need to continue that in the second half.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think they continued playing with joy?

[Hank]

What was bullshit about that quote?

[Max]

Yeah, they were not playing with joy.

[PFT Commenter]

In the first half.

[Big Cat]

No, no.

What?

[Max]

Max, Jake Elliott also fucking sucks. Every week he fucks us on.

[PFT Commenter]

You have eight wins.

[Hank]

He was hitting bombs.

[Max]

It doesn't. This team is dead.

[Big Cat]

Nick Sirianni should shave his head.

[Max]

Nothing will save this team. It's.

[D'Amico Ryan]

It's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you're.

[Max]

The only good thing about. The only good thing about this team is that Kevin Matula will get fired. We'll hire a new offensive coordinator and make the super bowl next year because it's just.

[Big Cat]

That's just how it works cycle for.

[Max]

The Eagles right now.

[Big Cat]

Are you worried about missing the playoffs? Yeah. Why?

[Max]

Because you can't. You got to win football games to make the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

But you do play the Raiders. Yeah, the Commanders twice.

[Max]

We played the. And we played the two wins cardinals.

[Big Cat]

In 20, 24 wins. I did see that and that's a fair point because that was a game that was shocking at the time and was like holy nothing.

[Max]

Nothing would shock.

[Big Cat]

So basically, if the. If the Cowboys run the table go four and oh. And the Eagles go two and two, the Cowboys will win the NFC East.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing is not that crazy.

[Big Cat]

Well, I know it is a little.

[Hank]

Eagles play the Raiders 100% splitting with the Commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

No. No. I'd be shocked if the Commanders won another football game. I think we're going to lose to the Giants this weekend. I think the Eagles are going to beat us twice. Max. You're going to beat the Raiders. You're going to win three games.

[Big Cat]

You. You control your own destiny, Max.

[Max]

I don't care. What do you mean they're not going to do even if they make the playoffs. They're not.

[Big Cat]

But what about the.

[Max]

Not a good football. The defense is good.

[Hank]

All right, all right, all right, all right.

[Big Cat]

You're not going to.

[Max]

Hank is talking too much. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Next. Next. I'm about to help you next.

[Big Cat]

I' try and give you a spin zone. Max.

[Hank]

I'm trying to give you a fresh perspective.

[Max]

I just want the season to be over. I want it to be over. I was so happy just watching football on Sunday and not worrying about this garbage offense.

[Big Cat]

You were in a very good mood. Yeah.

[Max]

Life would be so much better if I just wasn't a fan of anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right, Max. Shut the up.

[Max]

It's true.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, I get. Max, I've told you, I'm going to.

[Max]

Do is way worse than I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to do the thing that Big cat said.

[Max]

Way worse than the joy of winning.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't. You can't say that. Life would be so much better weren't. You won a Super Bowl.

[Max]

I get it. I've said this before.

[PFT Commenter]

On this program, this calendar year, you won a Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

But he. I, I understand what he's saying. That if you just didn't have any rooting interest whatsoever, you just enjoyed sport like you want.

[PFT Commenter]

You won a Super Bowl, Max. You were.

[Max]

I get it.

[PFT Commenter]

You were world champions in February.

[Max]

I get it. This year, I.

[PFT Commenter]

You're allowed to be mad about your team.

[Max]

I understand.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I. You cannot be this upset about sports in general.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you played like, five bad.

[Big Cat]

No, you can.

[Max]

Yeah, you can.

[PFT Commenter]

Five bad games, Max. You're. You're a world champion.

[Big Cat]

And Max did say it before the game. He said, this will decide my happiness for the rest of the year.

[Max]

Happiness gone. Whole year gone.

[Big Cat]

Diet gone.

[Max]

I went to the gym yesterday, had a really healthy day. And then I had like, 16 drinks. Twisted Peas during the Eagles. I was just anxious. I would. It wasn't even drinking out of, like. It was just anxious. I. I needed something to do. I. And I, we call that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's putting out the fire.

[Hank]

All right. I'll try and keep this short. I don't want to limit my word count here, but think about this, Max. Your season's over. You walk into the show, the. The two co. The two hosts just, you know, troll you.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you're a co.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Host.

[Hank]

And it's not fair. And it's.

[Big Cat]

I don't think we controlled. Rude.

[Hank]

And people in this office are mean and rude. Make the playoffs, beat the Bears.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Max]

Because. No, no. It's just that we're not the Bears. We. This team cannot beat the Bears at This team as it is right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on. Why do you say that, Max?

[Max]

Because they suck. We're all watching it. This is a bad football team. It's a bad football team.

[PFT Commenter]

You think your defense is bad.

[Max]

They were bad against the Bears.

[Hank]

You don't think you could beat the Bears at the.

[Max]

Yeah, no.

[Hank]

Actually, that wasn't even trolling.

[Max]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

You tr. Think that was a troll. Do we have. I, We're. I'm not. I haven't trolled yet on this show. Do we have anyone who was at the game last night, though, that we could talk to?

[Max]

He's not here.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you sure?

[Max]

Oh, I thought you were talking.

[Big Cat]

No, we have.

[Max]

Oh, we're. We're doing this. This guy doesn't. This guy doesn't even know what football is.

[Big Cat]

We're talking about Shane, dude. Shane was at the game last night. He's on his way back.

[Max]

Is this Shane or is this.

[Big Cat]

No, it's Shane.

[PFT Commenter]

It's Shane.

[Max]

This is Jerry.

[Big Cat]

It's Shane.

[PFT Commenter]

Shane had been waiting to go to his first game. He went to his first Chargers game last night.

[Big Cat]

Our guy Shane is ready to go.

[Max]

Zach, Zach doesn't know how to do this. I am doing my putting together my own troll here, by the way.

[Big Cat]

That's a. That's a hell of a producer right there. That's why we love you. You're doing a great job.

[Max]

The.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I do think the Eagles are going to make the playoffs, and I think that if they can figure out the offense in any form, Lane Johnson coming back, obviously would be huge. I. I thought that. I. I'll tell you, Max, like, when Saquon ran that, that touchdown, I was like, oh, the Eagles might be back. Like, this might be the Eagles being fully that.

[Max]

But that did not. That was not like a. Oh, this. This running game looks good. Again, that was a gimmicky play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but he had. Yeah, he had a few good runs.

[Max]

Yeah. In the first quarter, he had like two good runs under center and then they stopped.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't they go under center?

[Max]

I don't know. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Drastic change put them under center.

[Max]

I. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I.

[PFT Commenter]

You're going to make the playoffs. And honestly, you weren't that. That far away from winning the game last night. If A.J. brown makes that catch in the end zone ball game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

One of those three catches, you probably win the football.

[Big Cat]

All this doesn't matter if A.J. brown catches a ball. That was a perfect pass.

[PFT Commenter]

If Sully wasn't back there playing like prime Ronnie Lott.

[Max]

I was looking at. I was looking at someone on Twitter last night was like, jalen Hurts is basically like a baseball, like a home run hitter who just goes through stretches where he's unstoppable and then goes through stretches where he's like the worst player.

[Big Cat]

He's Adam done.

[Max]

Yeah, he's Adam done.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

By the way, which is fair.

[Big Cat]

Congratulations. Kyle Schwerber back to the Phillies.

[Max]

Yeah, that was. That actually was. That was nice of him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was very nice of Kyle Schwartz.

[Max]

I appreciate him doing that.

[Big Cat]

For $150 million.

[Max]

No, but he did he? The city needed that this morning and he delivered. Yeah, he could have waited a little bit more, you know, and then he was like, you know what? Philly needs this today.

[Big Cat]

Let's get it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

And he did it.

[Big Cat]

All time, guy. All time.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, did you watch any of the Monsters Inc. Clips of the football game last night? Did it make it worse? I mean, the animated graphics, picking you off also.

[Big Cat]

And then fumble.

[Max]

That was they. How the is. How the is Mike Wazowski supposed to compete with Sully?

[PFT Commenter]

He had a great run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's not Sully.

[PFT Commenter]

He ran with joy.

[Max]

Think about. You look at two football players and you look at between Sully and Mike Wazowski, who you take. Yeah, you're taking salt.

[Big Cat]

You're taking salt.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like to see the Philip Rivers game. He'd be the guy from up.

[Max]

Talk about Philip Rivers. Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll get to that. We'll get to that later. We have.

[Big Cat]

All right, I'll do that.

[PFT Commenter]

We have Shane joining us.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Shane, how was the game last night? We're talking to you, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. I thought you were talking to Shane.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, man, the game was crazy. First of all, I gotta tell you. Max, Max, put. Put your head up. Come on, Max.

[Big Cat]

Max, I can hear you.

[Max]

I can hear you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Ok, Max, just put your head up. Stop sitting there and sulking and stuff. First of all, I will say this. The birds travel so well. I mean, there is so much green in that stadium. It was basically an Eagles home game. And I will say Eagles fans are so fun. The atmosphere is just electric. That said, Max, chin up. Come on, Max, chin ups.

[PFT Commenter]

Mash.

[Max]

I'm listening. I am listening.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, but why are you like all hunched over and like staring down and stuff?

Okay, there we go.

[Big Cat]

Muted.

[Hank]

There he is.

[PFT Commenter]

There's.

[Big Cat]

There he is. There's a maxi.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That said.

Your team cannot run the ball at all. I. I watched with my eyes. Shout out game time app. Thank you for the tickets. 12 days of game time. Go to the barstool sports store. You can get all the game time credits and stuff. Great app. The tickets are the cheapest on game time. You can sell your tickets. I love it. That's how you do an ad. Hank, you like that, right?

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That said.

That'S. That said.

Saquon. Every time he runs into the interior, he just crumples. Sort of like you are right now. Like there's like a crumpling of him. He. It's not even. I don't know what's going on. If it's with Saquon, if it's with your line when they bounce it outside, he rips off a 50 yard touchdown.

Early in the first quarter. He ripped off three, like 30 yards.

[Big Cat]

Boom, boom, boom.

[Jerry O'Connell]

On the outside, on the, on the right side of, of. Of the Chargers. But if you can't run the ball.

If you can't hand the ball off to Saquon and get three. I'm talking three yards. Max.

[Big Cat]

You're.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You're done. Stop watching.

[Big Cat]

Move.

[Max]

I would. I. Yes, I agree.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this is good.

[Max]

I agree with everything that you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, I have a question.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You mentioned Saquon. Is Saquon on Our fantasy team, Dude.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Saquon is on our fantasy team. We needed, we needed just over 13 points from him last night to get into the playoffs. Oh, and I gotta tell you, I actually didn't bet on the game last night because I was like, I have too much.

[Big Cat]

There's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What more do I need? Do I need more at stake here?

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

And when he ripped that run off, it was. Honestly, I haven't felt like that since Hanky and I were watching game one.

Celtics, Knicks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And did you assault anyone last night too?

[Jerry O'Connell]

The guy I was with, I was grabbing him and like, whispering like, Saquon. Yeah, it was. He really showed up for us right when he needed to.

I, I, I just gotta say, like, getting back to Max and the Eagles, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's also what was going on because I wasn't watching on tv, so I didn't get any commentary. Oh, by the way, met Joe Buck Booth. Yeah, dude, it's so funny. I'm very respectful. He's doing live television. I'm sort of hanging off on the side, you know, he gets a break. He's there. Joe Buck makes a beine for me and goes, hey, you do your interview for the part of my take book yet? And I was like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe it.

[PFT Commenter]

We were laughing so hard.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's so funny. Like, all roads lead to, to you guys. What a great guy. Holy mackerel. He is the best. What a. He didn't have to say anything. He's working live television. Also met Troy Aikman. Not joking. I, I really believe, just judging him physically. Tomorrow he could play for the Colts.

Is in such. He is in, I'm gonna say it. He's in the best shape I've ever seen him in.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow, that's high.

[Max]

Wow.

[Hank]

It was your first time meeting.

[Big Cat]

Was this your first meeting?

[Jerry O'Connell]

First time meeting him. I met him in a bar, so that checks out.

[Big Cat]

But that checks out. That's the best shape you've ever seen him in when you met, like, I.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Actually saw him and I don't do this. I don't. You can ask Hank. I don't, like, touch people inappropriately. That's like, my thing. I respect people's boundaries, like their eardrums and stuff.

When I saw him, I was like, I gotta see if this is real or if it's like, like implants. So I went, oh, Mr. Aikman, it's such a pleasure to meet you. Shook his hand, and then with my left hand, like, touched his, like, deltoid. And stuff. He is. He could play. Honestly. Colts.

Get. Give Troy a call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But. Yeah, you have a problem. Those picks that Jalen threw. Oh, what happened in the end zone? Did. Was that a pass to who?

[Max]

Who?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Who was that a pass to?

[PFT Commenter]

AJ Brown? Are you talking about the. The drop?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm talking about the interception.

Did it hit Dotson's hands?

[Max]

What are we doing here?

[Big Cat]

He was at the game. He's. Recap. We always do this. We recap, guys. From the gate.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, dude, I just haven't seen it. I wasn't on tv. I was there live, so I couldn't see. And also, shout out to game time. Gigah map is awesome, but my seats were in one end zone and they were in the other end zone.

But I. I could have. I didn't want to spend all the money and get in the middle of the field, so. But they were still great seats. Game time is incredible. That's how you do an ad, Hank. Cheapest prices, easiest resale. Any notes for me on that ad? On that read, Hank? No.

[Big Cat]

You. You crushed it.

[Hank]

It was fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You were prepared. That's the big thing.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, do you have any last words of encouragement for Max?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, Max, honestly, Max, let it go. Start thinking about Phillies in spring training. It's over. Chin up, though.

[Big Cat]

Come on, Max.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Don't, like, hunch over, like. Yeah, There we go. There's that beautiful face.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I love seeing you.

[Big Cat]

Good.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you get a chance to see Big Dom on the sideline interacting with the guys?

[Jerry O'Connell]

So funny. I was looking for him and I was trying to get, like, a photo of him.

I gotta say, a lot of the coaching staff on the Eagles look like Big Dom. I mean, a lot of people I didn't and I didn't want to, like. I know Hank almost got canceled on Monday's show for you know what? But Italian, I didn't want to, like. I didn't want to film one person and then have the Italian American community be like, that's not Big Dom. We don't all look alike.

[Big Cat]

How dare you?

[Jerry O'Connell]

You're dead to us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. Better safe than sorry. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Well, Jerry, you're the best. Thank you.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we always do this recap from a game live. You're the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks for being our eyes and ears, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Otherwise you wouldn't have known.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Shout out game time map. 12 days of game time. Go to the Barstool sports store. They have just incredible deals right now. What an app. I love it. Just Seeing that green Marshall Sports go.

[Big Cat]

He's been. Yeah, he's been doing the.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The Barstool Sports Store is part of the 12 days of game time.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hank doesn't know that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because he doesn't read the ad copy.

[Big Cat]

All right. Thank you, J. Jerry, you're the best.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hank, you blew it. You blew it. You blew the game time read. You blew it.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

All right. See you, Jerry. Bye.

[PFT Commenter]

Bye, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

That was the best, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Max, let's. I. You're obviously, you know, ready to move on is we have one last thing we have to ask, because this is obviously the big elephant in the room. The bunny.

[Max]

I mean, we all knew what you. We tried to convince ourselves about that, but. Oh, my God.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We got.

[PFT Commenter]

We got you something, Max, to help you. Help cheer you up.

[Big Cat]

Max, look at that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a positivity rabbit.

[Big Cat]

A positivity rabbit.

[PFT Commenter]

It's actually the donkey from Shrek, but we drew a bunny nose and whiskers on it to make.

[Big Cat]

Isn't that awesome? Do you want it or no?

[PFT Commenter]

Do you feel better?

[Max]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

No positivity.

[Max]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

What. So what are we gonna do with the bunny? We're gonna rip it up.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess I have to destroy the rabbit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

What are we gonna do with the bunny in the. In the Eagles locker room.

[Max]

What's Hank doing over there?

[Big Cat]

I also got.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you should get another bunny.

[Big Cat]

I got you a positivity.

[D'Amico Ryan]

A bear.

[Big Cat]

A positivity bear. Do you want this one?

Let's get positive.

Max. I got.

[PFT Commenter]

We have another positivity reindeer for you.

[Big Cat]

Look at this. The positivity bear.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Help you feel better.

[Big Cat]

What do you have? Hank.

And a dog. What do you have? You have a dog?

[Hank]

This a bear. This is a bear as well. This looks.

[Big Cat]

Look at. Max, look at all this positivity we got for you. Do you not like it?

[PFT Commenter]

I feel better.

[Big Cat]

I feel way better. Max, can you at least talk to us? Because there's people listening to the show right now. He's destroying. Destroying my bunny.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't destroy the bunny, Max. Max, don't destroy the bunny. Max, put the bunny down.

[Hank]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

There's a positive.

Door. He just walked into another positivity thing. Max. Max, we're getting positive. What's wrong? This is.

[Max]

That was up. You had Pug out there doing that. Pug's an Eagles fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Max, I feel so much better.

[D'Amico Ryan]

What is.

[Big Cat]

What's this? Oh. Oh, look at this, Max. A positivity dog. Look at.

[Hank]

Oh, my bear's dying.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

Max, do you want any of these or. No. Can you put your headphones back on? We gotta talk.

[PFT Commenter]

He's hiding underneath the sweatshirt. He's disappearing himself.

[Big Cat]

Max, this is. Look at Zach. Tell us you feel positive, right?

What is pretty positive in this room? I mean, we just got. We got bunnies everywhere. We got quite a few different animals. Yeah, pretty positive. You guys feel positive? I feel really.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel great. I really do. I think that this is the best thing for Max right now. Mm. Just put a smile, turn that frown upside down. Max.

[Big Cat]

Max, look at all this positivity. Come on, man. This is where as positive as possible. What are you gonna do with the. The bunny, though? Do you think they got it? They gotta get rid of it, right?

[D'Amico Ryan]

What are your thoughts on the bunny, Max? They gotta get rid of it.

[Big Cat]

Max, talk, please. Talk for the people. Max is saying the bunny is gone. The bunny. Has it officially been gone? Is it officially gone? Can we at least agree?

[Max]

Yeah, the bunny is good. We all knew. We all knew what was going to happen with the bunny, but you got.

[Big Cat]

Mad at me for mentioning. Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

That'S okay, good, because I know that's. I got a positivity bunny.

[Max]

That's the best news I've heard in a long time.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't be mad about anything with this positivity.

[Max]

I hope that thing is fried, so.

[Big Cat]

It's so much water. It's so much water.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got, like, three more.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we'll be okay over here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think, Max, looking back at it, because you did get mad at me on Sunday night when I pointed out having to say we're not sad. Make sure that everyone knows we're not sad. This bunny is not about being sad. Was probably not a great side.

[Max]

I knew it wasn't a good sign.

[Big Cat]

But you fought me about it. Well, yeah, okay, but now we have a good sign here. We have so much positivity in this room.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we just get a smile, Max? You're so much prettier.

[Big Cat]

Just look up. Just look at the positivity, and then we'll be in. Plug them. All right, look at it.

[Max]

Look at it.

[Big Cat]

You see it?

[Max]

Yep. Done.

[Big Cat]

No, Do a full scan.

[Max]

I just looked up full scan. Yes, I see it.

[Hank]

Give them names.

[Big Cat]

Give them names. Give them.

[Max]

You said to look. You said look up and we'll be done.

[Big Cat]

I looked up with real quick, rapid fire. Come on, rapid fire. Names and we're done. Give them some names.

[Max]

I can't trust you.

[Big Cat]

You said look up and we're done. You're alive, right? You're right. You're right. You're right. That was up, but now I want some names for these guys.

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

Please.

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

Please. Pretty please. We're not.

[Max]

I'm not. We're not doing this.

[PFT Commenter]

Just do one.

[Max]

Let's talk about Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers. Oh, my God. He's going back.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's just do one, max.

[Max]

90 yard touchdown.

[Big Cat]

Woo.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, what is it? What is this guy's name? See this guy right here?

[Big Cat]

Just name one of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Max.

[Big Cat]

One of them.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Hope you're doing okay, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just here to help.

[Hank]

Five names and we're moving on.

[Max]

We will wait here all day. I'm giving zero names.

[Hank]

One name.

[Max]

We're not doing it. We're not doing this. I will. I swear. I swear to God, I will wait here all day.

[Big Cat]

We got a show about boys. We got a showdown.

[PFT Commenter]

I got nothing to do.

[Hank]

What about.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Big donkey.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's good. I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

I like donkey.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We got a bear.

[Big Cat]

A.J. brown bear.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I think we just have to. We have to wait each other out here. Shahan Dachshund. Oh, that's good. I like that.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's do a hot seat cool throw. We'll talk about Philip Rivers in the hot seat.

[Max]

Cool.

[Big Cat]

Should we un. Is this bad audio? Max, can you put on your headphones and let us know if this bad audio. All this stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, this is.

[Big Cat]

We got.

[PFT Commenter]

Look. Hey, Max. It's Nick Diriani.

[Big Cat]

BFT almost filled his water again, but I put a cap back on.

[PFT Commenter]

We played with tremendous joy last night. It's me, Nick Diriani. I'm so filled with joy, I'm happy as the dickens.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

I'm unplugging my Max look.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, stand down.

[Big Cat]

Standing down. We're gonna do hot seat cool throw. Look at. See? Oh, now I gotta say, this is kind of sad now. Oh, no. Look at all them deflating. This is really, really big time. Bummer. Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think we can keep the donkey on.

[Big Cat]

I agree. I agree. Okay, let's. Yeah, you keep. You keep donkey. Let's do. Let's do hot seat, cool throne. Hot seat, cool throne is brought to you, and we will talk. Philip Rivers and hot sea, cool throne. Hot sea, cool throne is brought to you by our friends at body armor. This segment is brought to you by body armor flash iv. Do we have a flash iv? Be careful. The snowman out there. Zach body armor Flash IV. Flash IV delivers faster, longer lasting hydration with over 2000mg electrolytes and no artificial dyes, flavors, or sweeteners like those other drinks. So whether you're training, traveling, or just feeling the heat, work hard, hydrate hard with Body Armor Flash IV and grab yours today at your local 711 convenience store. Body Armor Flash IV. If you take it, a bad loss. Oh, wait, did Max leave again?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he walked out.

[Big Cat]

Have you taken a bad loss? Body Armor Flash IV will help you out. Body Armor Flash iv. Zach is gonna bring it to me. He's. He's navigating all the stuff there. Okay. Body Armor Flash iv. Love it. I'm gonna take a sip right now, the tropical punch, and then we're gonna do Hot Seat, Cool throne. Where's Max?

[PFT Commenter]

Max, to quote himself, he. He hit the mute button on himself.

[Big Cat]

Where did he go?

[PFT Commenter]

He just left.

[Big Cat]

He's got to come back.

[D'Amico Ryan]

You assume bathroom.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would you assume that?

[Big Cat]

He walked towards the bathroom. He walked towards the bathroom. The bathroom. Okay. Okay. Let's do Hot Seat, Cool Thrones.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We'll. We'll.

[Big Cat]

We'll fill in Max when he gets back. Hot Seat, Cool throne.

[Hank]

All right, well, I'll start with my Cool throne then.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, that's a good idea.

[Hank]

My hot seat was. Was Max related? My Cool Thrones. Mike Tyson.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah, yeah.

[Hank]

I'm assuming. I think he fought one of the Paul brothers already. I'm assuming he's probably gonna fight the other one at some point. And, you know, he's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's.

[Hank]

But he got tips from Conor McGregor on. On how to box.

[Big Cat]

I saw that.

[Hank]

My Cool Throne is Mike Tyson in his next fight. Next inevitable fight versus Paul brother.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. It was also great camera work when that was being done because it was Conor McGregor showing off the striking. And then the camera pans over to who he's teaching, and it's Mike Tyson sitting there like, yeah, okay, I got you. I gotcha.

[Big Cat]

Legally, I would not. Not like to accuse anyone of doing anything illegal. Right. So we're not going to accuse anyone. All I'll say is I have seen people.

High on Josh Allen before, myself included. Every time I see a clip of Conor McGregor, he looks like he's just put another bet on Josh Allen to an mvp.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When was the last time there was a. A positive headline about Conor McGregor?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[D'Amico Ryan]

It's been a long.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like it's been a decade.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Your hot seat.

[Hank]

My hot seat. National sports podcast. Moving on from football, it's the Philadelphia 76ers.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what's up?

[Hank]

10, 10 games ago, they were top of the division, but Max, put your headphones. Celtics have gone 8 and 2. They beat the Pistons, they beat the Lakers, they beat the Raptors. Last night, they beat the Wizards, they beat the Cavs 8 and 2. No Jason Tatum. They're now second in division behind the Knicks, and the Sixers are in third place on five and five in their last 10.

[PFT Commenter]

Spiraling. And LeBron had, I think, 10 straight in the fourth quarter against him.

[Max]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

New streak.

[PFT Commenter]

New streak.

[Big Cat]

Max, can I say one thing to you that I was trying to move on from? You're gonna like. Well, maybe you won't like, but can I just say it to you? Can you listen to me?

[Max]

Sure, I guess this is just the entire fucking show.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not. All I'm gonna say is about the. The Positivity national podcast. Okay. Can I just say that we love you so much and we think about you so much that PFT and I, independently of each other, plan to get these blow ups?

[Max]

It was the most obvious thing ever.

[Big Cat]

Obviously you didn't expect the snowman in the hallway. Admit that when you opened the door and you ran into the snowman, you did not see that coming.

[Max]

Coming. I just took a knife to that snowman.

[Big Cat]

We love you, Max. We do. Okay.

[Hank]

Also, hot seat me, kind of because of the. The tan. Coach Missoula reached out and just said, tough look.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Oh.

[Max]

And then hot cheating me, the coach of the.

[Big Cat]

Good point, Max.

[Hank]

And then I had to explain Mount Rushmore to him, which I felt like. I felt like the loot most loser text of all time. Well, we do this Mel Rushmore competition in the summer where we rank things and the loser has to do a punishment.

[PFT Commenter]

I think a lot of his interactions with you come on the heels of losing some contest where you have to do a punishment. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft. Your house.

[Max]

We gotta get. We can't see PFT in the camera.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, I'll move it back.

[Big Cat]

Every time he talked, it was just Nick Diani. No, this is.

[PFT Commenter]

That's big Dump Donkey here. Put him up here.

[Hank]

That's the funniest Big Donkey's ever been.

[PFT Commenter]

There he is. My hot seat is the NFL because Philip Rivers is back.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's so back. He's 44 years old. I thought it was a joke. It sounded like something that we would have thrown out there on Sunday as part of my take. Just in terms of, like, wishing something that would never happen is going to happen. He worked out on Monday night for the Colts. Apparently that arm still works. He's a grandfather and the Colts have signed him. Tough scene, tough scene for the Ben Denucci's of the world. For anyone that, that did not make a roster this year. Maybe a young quarterback. They're just kicking the tires on Philip Rivers and he's coming back and he is now officially signed to the Indianapolis Colts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so excited.

[Big Cat]

I had the same exact feeling as you. I looked at it, I quote, tweeted it. I, it was, it was. I saw the check mark. But after I tweeted I was like, there's no way that actually was true. Right? Yeah, no way. But he's going to try to do this and it's, it's, it's exactly what we want. Instead of seeing, no offense to Riley Leonard or whoever they could pick up off the street, give us Phil Rivers now. He does have to. If he, he got signed to the practice squad, he is now. If he plays on Sunday against the Seahawks, who have quite a good defense. I thought that he would. I'm actually already so excited because when we were texting about it, my initial reaction was this is mean. Because I thought the Colts would sign him or the Colts would bring him in for a workout. They would see him be like, all right, you're 44 years old, dude, thanks for coming in, but no, no thanks. And I would have got my hopes up for nothing. Now they've. If now we're. It feels like we're in. Yeah. Feels like it might happen.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they, they sign him. This is, it reminds me a lot of the Jeff Saturday head coach thing. Yeah, this is kind of what they're doing just at the quarterback position. I hope he'll be okay. I am a little bit concerned about his safety because Philip Rivers is a grandfather and he's playing against that Seahawks defensive line. That doesn't seem like it's a good comedy. This doesn't seem like a, a fix that is necessarily set up to last for the rest of the season. Yes, they might just be going on a week to week basis and yes, they might honestly think they should sign Taylor Heinecke. He's a free agent right now.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty well.

[PFT Commenter]

And he would be fun, he would be a fun quarterback. He's good. He can be, you know, he, he takes some chances. Like Jalen hurts. It's not always a bad thing when you throw interceptions. But this doesn't. I, I'm optimist. I, I'm not optimistic, but I am hopeful. I want Philip Rivers to play for the rest of the season. I want him out there making his Philip Rivers faces. I want him out there pretending to cost while not actually cussing. The only downside to this, really, is that his hall of Fame clock has now been set back, which I was.

[Big Cat]

Like, maybe he did this on purpose because he was going to be in a class with Drew Brees and Eli Manning.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So maybe he's just going to keep doing this until he finds a class that doesn't have a lot of hall of Fame quarters.

[PFT Commenter]

Why not call up Eli Manning?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

See if he'll do it.

[Big Cat]

Has Florio said that Kaepernick is working out yet?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think that we've reached.

[Big Cat]

That stage because, like, it is a slap in Kaepernick's face that he's not getting a tryout out.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say, yeah. Yeah. If Philip. If we're doing the Philip Rivers thing, there's a lot of guys. Why not Brett Favre?

[Big Cat]

I love it so, so much.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, bring all these guys back. What's Tebow up to? My guy Cudi, Johnny Manzel.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot of guys that Johnny.

[PFT Commenter]

Man, He threw for 300 yards in the game.

[Big Cat]

He also.

[PFT Commenter]

People act like he doesn't have an arm. He can play football.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Okay. You're cool. Tron.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hank, do you have anything about that, about Philip Rivers? You're itching to talk about him.

[Hank]

Was I?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. My cool throne is winning the breakups.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Notre Dame is now going scorched earth on the College Football Playoff and more specifically, the acc. So the athletic director, Pavakwa. Is that how you say his name?

[Big Cat]

I just think of Matthew Bevalacqua.

[PFT Commenter]

Me too.

[Big Cat]

The guy from Sopranos.

[PFT Commenter]

Bevacua. Bakwa has been doing a bunch of interviews. He's been talking the ACC and saying that the ACC absolutely them over that they did. I think this is direct, quote, irreparable harm to the relationship with Notre Dame. Now, Notre Dame is not in the ACC for football.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But they have, in Bavakwa's terms, a business relationship together. That business relationship might be done because the accident seem to have been advocating for Miami to get in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Over Notre Dame. So this is like more Notre Dame. A lot of sour grapes coming out of South Bend right now. And I. I get it. Like, they're a good football team. And are they one of the best 12 teams in the country? Yes. Without a Doubt. They are one of the best.

[Big Cat]

Will you apologize?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not going to apologize for getting in. Never. You will never hear me say I'm sorry that JMU is in the College Football Playoff. And guess what? We probably broke it. You should be. They should be thanking us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Notre Dame should be kissing my ass because JMU getting into this playoff. They will rewrite the rules for the playoffs so this never happens again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you'll be fine. You've got your little memorandum of understanding. You'll be okay in the long run. But they're very upset that the ACC did not advocate strongly for Notre Dame despite the fact that they are not in the ACC for football.

[Big Cat]

Got it? Yeah. I mean, it's. The super conferences, super conferences have. Have screwed. This is how we've. We've led all the way down here and end. Having a big hand in this and. And having a super conference where you have two teams that didn't play each other, that didn't play more than they played two common opponents.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The dumbest tiebreakers. And they also set this up because they never thought that The. The. An ACC, a Power 4 conference champion, would be ranked lower than a group of five team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, they set this up when the Big 12 and the ACC. That was what everybody was looking at.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. It's so stupid. But. Yeah, you shouldn't apologize. Yeah. I, like. I would. As a full. As a neutral observer, I would rather see Notre Dame and. And Texas or Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, by the way, like, they just got forgotten in all of this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But Notre Dame, Texas, Vanderbilt. Yeah. I would rather see those games.

[PFT Commenter]

Respect to Vandy, though, for trying to schedule another game.

[Big Cat]

Yes. But at the end of the day, I. I won because I. I'm happy for you. And two, it's like a reap what you sow situation. And I'm like, all right, yeah, you guys fucked this up. Deal with it now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, listen, there's a very good chance that I have a very bad time watching the JMU Oregon game. And it becomes. See, I told you. This is why we don't let JMU into the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a very distinct possibility that happens. So I'm just on a mission to cover. That's all I'm looking at. Let's cover the spread.

[Big Cat]

Let's cover the spread.

[PFT Commenter]

Physically, Oregon is a much bigger team. I. I'm not confident at all. I'm not saying JMU is one of the best 12 teams in the country. I think that that would be an insane Take to have. I'm just pumped that we're in it and I'm glad that the CFP was so short sighted with everything that it put the entire sport in this situation. But football is going to be fine. College football will be fine. They're going to change the rules. Notre Dame, you're going to get in. Next time this happens to you, we'll all forget this ever happened. And just. But what if Jamie won, though? Which is what if we want. I'm eating duck every day for the next 12 days.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're doing it.

[Big Cat]

Is that your cool throne?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Your cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Winning the breakups.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah. You should eat duck every single.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. I had duck. I duck last night. I'm gonna have duck gumbo for lunch today. We're gonna do duck every day. It's healthy, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Duck is very.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm Carson Wentz. I'm out here just assassinating ducks.

[Big Cat]

Duck. Duck has to be healthy. My hot seat is so the one thing we didn't talk about with the Philip Rivers thing. And obviously it's the Colts. I want Philip Rivers to play. My hot seat is Chris Ballard. I'm putting back on the hot seat. The GM for the Colts, I have to remind everyone, has been the GM for the Colts since 2017. Nine years. He has never won the AFC South. Yeah, he's never won the AFC South.

[PFT Commenter]

They looked like they were in a good spot when Daniel Jones was healthy, but were they? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yes, they were. But they also were also like, Daniel Jones getting hurt gives you a nice excuse. I don't know if they were going to. They were already falling down a little bit before that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he had a broken leg.

[Big Cat]

But when did he break his leg?

[PFT Commenter]

It was like three weeks before. Two weeks before he reported it.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so it was. But what game was it? Do we know what game it was?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Daniel Jones, three weeks ago.

[Hank]

I called them frauds. And it was before all the fibula stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When did he break?

[Hank]

And I was ridiculed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm wrong. I apologize.

[PFT Commenter]

In terms of being frauds. I don't. I wasn't saying, like, Super Bowl, I don't think. But they were a good team. They were. They were by far the favorite to win that division at the time.

[Big Cat]

But they also had a really, really hard schedule coming up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What. What week do we know when he actually broke his or her first hurt his leg? Was it the Chiefs game? I think it might have been four weeks ago.

[Hank]

And it came out three I think.

[Big Cat]

It might have been the three weeks ago.

[Hank]

Came out two weeks ago.

[Big Cat]

Either way, Chris Ballard, hot seat because not winning the AFC south nine straight times is. Is pretty crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I also feel like if you're crisp out, you. You have to call some other quarterback too, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't pin the rest of your season on Philip Rivers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Zach, are you looking it up for me? No. You are. You're trying to find it. When did he first get hurt?

I would like to. To. To find out when he. I think it was the Chiefs game, I believe. Because if it was maybe the Steelers game, I don't know.

[Shane]

They.

[Big Cat]

They had lost the Steelers. That was obviously when he went Seth. When Seth went Savage.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Either way, their schedule has been very. Is very difficult going down the stretch. And it was always going to be very difficult going down the stretch. Not to say they weren't a good team before that, but they also were beating some bad teams. So this is a nice excuse that they were right there, but I don't know if you want to fool yourself and say you were right there.

[PFT Commenter]

They were, but they. They were in a good position to win that division. Yeah. Is what I'm saying. Like the. The roster as it was. And also Anthony Richardson breaking his eye in a pregame warm up with the band. Not saying that Anthony Richardson is necessarily like the future of that team, but it would be nice to. To put him out there. It would be nice to not have to pick up the phone and. And call Philip Rivers.

[Big Cat]

It would be Hank.

[D'Amico Ryan]

I.

[Big Cat]

By the way, you were right.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so glad that they did call Philip Rivers. Don't get me wrong.

[Big Cat]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so excited to see Philip Rivers play football.

[Big Cat]

I guess I should. Yeah. Reverse it and put Chris Ballard on our cool throne because he's doing something we really are in.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Of.

[Big Cat]

In calling Philip Rivers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The first thing that I thought of though was how. How mad I got at Kyle Shanahan for telling us that if the 49ers had beaten the Eagles to make that super bowl when they had Brock Purdy go out with the elbow thing, that he was going to call Philip Rivers to be their quarterback on one week practice for the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How incredible would that have been?

[Big Cat]

It would have been insane. All right. My cool throne is Penn State. And Max, we didn't talk about this on Monday. Max. Matt Campbell's a good coach. That was a good. For a coaching search that couldn't have gone worse. It ended up in a decent place.

[Max]

Yeah. He Had a good press conference, too.

[Hank]

So are you.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Whatever.

[Big Cat]

Okay, we. We've lost them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What do you think about his hat game, Max?

Where's hats?

[Big Cat]

Big.

[PFT Commenter]

Big bend in the bill. Big curve.

[Max]

Couldn't. Couldn't tell you that. I've thought too much about it.

[Big Cat]

Max, are you least excited that big Game Max takes a week off because you're playing the Raiders this week?

[Max]

We're gonna lose the Raiders?

[Big Cat]

No, he's got. He's got a big.

[Hank]

Big game.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

College basketball.

[Big Cat]

Big game math.

[Max]

17 and a half point dogs.

[Big Cat]

No, the big game Max is when. When Wisconsin plays Villanova next Friday.

[Max]

Yeah, I'm going to that game, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Big game, Big game Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Little game Max. This weekend.

[Big Cat]

Zach, your hot seat, cool throne. Do we ever get an answer for when he. We can't find it.

[Max]

It's impossible. Everything you look up, it just talks about the Achilles.

[Big Cat]

When did he first fracture his fibula? I don't. I don't know. I can't remember what week we talked about it. I think it was after the Chiefs game.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what it was? The news came out the week of Thanksgiving, so that was.

[Big Cat]

We. Have.

[PFT Commenter]

We recorded earlier in the week, but the news was also that he had been dealing with it for the last several weeks.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

So I. I'd say two weeks before the Chiefs game sounds like it would be the right track for it. Which would be. Would that be the Steelers game?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, I. They probably would have made the playoffs if he stayed healthy. I just didn't know this. This. It coincides with the stretch of their schedule. I would have liked to see a healthy Daniel Jones play this stretch and see how good they could have been. Okay.

[Max]

Before this past week.

[Big Cat]

It was two weeks.

[Max]

It was two weeks that he was playing through.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it was the Chiefs game.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Zach, you're hot seat cool. Tom, My hot seat this week is going to be oversharing on Twitter. Okay. Did any of you guys see a former NFL quarterback, Quinn Jammer, on Twitter last night? Yes. Did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, all the time.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Just.

[Big Cat]

True story. In 2011, I played completely shit face drunk at least eight games. Mm. Did you guys see the replies? Yeah, he's ripping in the replies. Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Open book.

[Big Cat]

And it's crazy.

[Hank]

And video clips are so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

I haven't seen the video clip. I saw somebody pulled up his stats and they were like, yeah, you were like the fifth worst cornerback in the NFL that year.

[Hank]

There's. There's a couple Videos of him just, like, running without a care in the world. Just kind of like taking long. No angles and just, like, looping around. Almost looks like he's, like, trying to run and do like a hell, like a plane run.

[Big Cat]

Is he sober now? I would assume. I feel like that's something you don't say unless you're sober now.

[PFT Commenter]

Or it could also be something that you say if you're definitely not sober.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I hope he's sober because. Yeah, that was quite. Quite something to say. Just outright admit.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He was replying to people being like, yeah, I just have a couple tequila bottles.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Tequila bottles on the sidelines. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He said he's ripping drinks through the game and the way home. Yeah. Just never stop drinking. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, who was the coach of the. Of the four of the Chargers at that point? Would that be. Is that Norv. Marty?

[Big Cat]

It might have been. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How do you not notice that your starting cornerback is hammered during games?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, he played a long time in the league.

[PFT Commenter]

He was. Yeah. He's a good player.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So maybe they're just like, hey, he's a vet. He handles differently. He's got. We're not gonna. We're not getting involved here.

[PFT Commenter]

This is Quentin.

[Big Cat]

It was Marty and North.

[PFT Commenter]

Marty.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what year did he say? 2011.

[Ad Voice]

2011.

[Big Cat]

That was north. Yeah. All right. Your cool throne. My cool thing this week is Dodgers, because MLB might just be over. Oh, yeah. Edward Diaz to the Dodgers. Three years, $69 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. What do you think?

[Big Cat]

It's over. Dodgers won the World Series again. Just like that. Don't even. Don't even do the season start to lock out now.

[Max]

It was the one thing that. It was their one weakness, and they.

[Big Cat]

Just got the best. Yeah.

[Max]

Closer in baseball.

[Big Cat]

But even last year, when there. It was their weakness, they're like, we just have a bunch of starters. We'll just make relievers.

It's bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

But now they got. They got the guy. I went to two Mets games originally last year, and he was. He was just the best player. Is he gonna bring the trumpets with him?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It would be nice if. If I actually think, like, I'm. I'm secretly hoping the Dodgers doing this type of stuff will just lead us to a salary cap, and then it's all solved so the Dodgers could save baseball while breaking baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the thing is, if they had won the World Series more. More decisively, we'd be having that conversation right now.

[Max]

Strike.

[PFT Commenter]

Salary. Yeah. Salary cap means strike. Which Means no baseball.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Salary cap. Slash floor, high floor, same thing. Very high floor.

Same thing. What if it's just like, like a very short building ceiling? So you've got like a six foot ceiling. The floor is so high that the ceiling doesn't really feel like it's. You know, I'm saying that would just.

[Max]

Make a small room a small ceiling.

[PFT Commenter]

Which would players wouldn't like unless the floor is also. It's like a skyscraper. And the only floor that is lived in on the building is at the very, very top with the go to.

[Big Cat]

Really wide salary cap to kind of.

[Ad Voice]

Spread the money around and come to a compromise.

[PFT Commenter]

Go super wide with the floor.

[Max]

Whatever.

[Big Cat]

Max, I'm watching you stab this snowman. That was sad. Why did you stab him? That's holiday cheer.

[Max]

You guys wanted. That's what you guys wanted. And it was.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I did not. I wanted you to cheer up. That's why we got it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's get to our interview. We have d' Amico Ryan from the Houston Texans.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest very, very, very, very special guest. It is Houston Texans head coach d' Amico Ryan's. The hottest team in football right now. I'm going to say that. Does that make you uncomfortable though? Just let's start there. Giving you guys the hottest team in football moniker because I, I truly believe it. The way you guys are playing ball.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Right now, now doesn't make me uncomfortable. I think the guys deserve. They're doing a really good job but understanding that, you know, maybe the hottest team, but it doesn't matter, right? You just got to keep going out, executing, doing what we have to do to continue to win games.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a believer in rat poison though? Would you like us, would you like us to say some mean things about the Houston Texans so these guys don't get a fat head walking around?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Please give it to me. What you got?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, let's see. What can we say?

[Big Cat]

Your offense still hasn't been very good.

[D'Amico Ryan]

There we go. Yeah. We recording this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Okay. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Congratulations on figuring out how to run an offense inside the five yard line. Yeah, we could be mean.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Now you, you guys are great. Like we, we want. We've actually been saying very nice things about you guys, but if it helps, we're happy to give you guys all the, all the bulletin board material that you need.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, I know all the stuff you guys say is for me, man, as I watch film and as I go through it, always keep our guys. You know, I keep them even killed. Understand there's still a lot of things we have to clean up. Even though guys are doing a great job of doing the most important thing and that's winning. But there's still a lot of lessons to be learned even in the wins that we have. And I'm always seeking that improvement. So I appreciate that. You guys, you guys are spot on. We're working on getting better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So this last game against the Chiefs, it was a great game. Playoff atmosphere, you know, the defense was incredible. What you guys did to the Chiefs in terms of Patrick Mahomes throwing three picks. The game, though, felt like it turned on that fourth and one call by the Chiefs. Now, you used to play for Andy Reid. Were you shocked on the sideline that they went for it on their own 30 yard line in that like with 10 minutes left, or were you prepared for it and like, hey, they're going to do this all the time?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, you know, going into the game, I was, I was prepared for just seeing the comments and things that they said throughout the week of how this was a huge game for them, knowing like their season. Everything was on the line. So anytime it was fourth down, I was just throwing my hands up, making sure the defense stayed out there, stayed alert, making sure we were prepared. We had a call ready for the moment. So it didn't surprise me because a lot of times, you know, Patrick Mahomes has done a ton of his career of making guys pay in those moments. So I see why, you know, Andy would go forward. Just he's trusting his players, believing in his quarterback to make a play.

[Big Cat]

How much fun are you having right now watching your defense play? Because I. There is something about defensive football where it's, you guys are so violent, you're so aggressive that it's like, it's, you know, everyone wants points in this league, but there's something about playing defense at the level you guys are playing at that is like, it brings me joy to watch because it's just what you guys are doing in attack. And do you feel that when you're watching your defense out on the field?

[D'Amico Ryan]

And I definitely, I feel the joy, I feel the excitement. I wish I can get out there and play with these guys because they make. It looks like so much fun out there playing, but they're playing together, man. That's what I truly believe in. Like, it's about stopping people. Like, everybody gets caught up in the offenses and scoring points and everybody want to see more points scored. I get it from a fan perspective, but for me, how do you win games? You win it by getting critical stops. And that's what's fun about watching our Defense on third down, the way they go out, they perform, get off the field. It's exciting. It's exciting to see and excite. It's exciting for me just to see it all come together.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[D'Amico Ryan]

To see guys truly play for each other.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What are those battles like in practice when you've got the ones on the ones and your defense going up against your offense and I, I have to imagine that, you know, your defense can stop anybody. So what's that dynamic like between the two, Two parts of your team?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, we do a, we do a competitive period where we do a third down compete period every week. And it's been pretty lopsided for most of the year. Our defense has been winning a lot of those. But when CJ came back for the past couple weeks, he's, he's gutted us on a lot, a lot of plays. So it's balancing itself out now. So it's very competitive when we do those periods. And I love it when you go just good on good in season to make sure the competitive fire, the competitive spirits are still up with our team. Always enjoy watching that.

[Big Cat]

I got a dumb question for you and I hope you take this the right way, but I. Well, it's a compliment, but I would assume that most of your beat reporters in Houston are not doing the same thing, asking these questions. We have you ranked top three most attractive head coaches in the NFL. Are you cool with that? Do you think that's a fair ranking?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Oh, man. Hey, I'm in the top five. I'll take it. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

You're top three. You might be one. You honestly might be one. And like, I don't know if it's like, listen, guys should be able to compliment guys like you're an attractive guy, good looking dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's Matt LaFleur. Andy Reid, demo Ryan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Let's go, let's go. Yeah, Miko, let's go, baby. Top three. I love it.

[Big Cat]

Do you, do you like prep your look when you're going out for a game or you're not even thinking about that because you're just so good looking? It doesn't matter.

[D'Amico Ryan]

You know, I have to do a really nice job of cutting all this hair off my head and making sure I'm looking really nice and clean out there. So it takes a lot to keep up this look.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I told Zach before we did this interview, I wanted to, I actually did want to ask you about the hair. How often do you. Do you bick it?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Oh, man, it's Probably a couple. Couple times a week. Probably two, three times a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Because I've never seen you once with any sort of growth. I didn't know if it was an everyday thing, if you had done it twice in a day before. There's never been a five o' clock shadow there.

[D'Amico Ryan]

I try to eliminate the five o' clock shadow. I tell my kids, I'm gonna grow it out. And my daughter, she's like, daddy, don't do that. Wait, if you did, I'll keep it fresh and clean.

[PFT Commenter]

If you did grow it out, do you have a full head of hair?

[D'Amico Ryan]

I do not. Man, it won't probably look about the same. So it's.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, that's. You know, we always hear coaches and sometimes podcasters saying if. If your team wins a Super bowl or a championship, you'll shave the head. You should do the opposite if the Texans win the super bowl, grow it out for six months.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah. I probably should just, man, be somewhere, just relax and grow out the full beard, the full head of hair. See what I look like then.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I do have another question about your defense in terms. Because it seems like you got a lot of leaders and a lot of guys that take, you know, responsibility and pride in playing hard and hitting hard. Is there one guy that you look at that sets the tone for the rest of the defense out there?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Man, it's. It's hard to really say. And that's. That's a good thing. It's a compliment to the entire defense. But, you know, I would say it's probably three guys. So I can. I can go to the number one being Kamari Lassiter. Like, even from the corner spot, he can set the tone. You got Jalen Petrie at the nickel safety position. He can set the tone. Then you got Aziz Al Shair. So those three guys out of. Out of one of those guys, I know somebody's gonna pop it off. Somebody's gonna lay a physical hit, somebody's gonna make a big play that's gonna spark our entire defense and make the energy just go through the roof.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. It's crazy. Watch you guys play. Like, even that Thursday night football game against the Bills, you guys beat the. Out of Josh Allen. It's like, it's the physicality that's just. It pops off because you don't see that as much in today's NFL.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, it's. It's really hard to do. Right? It's so many rules protecting the offensive player. So you got to do it and do it in a legal way. But I love that our defense is showing people that you still can play a physical brand of football. You can do it clean and people are still or people can still be excited about defense. Making big plays, making big hits, kids. So I, I love the way our guys are playing.

[Big Cat]

Quick break from d'. Ameco. We're bringing coach Doug's back in the lead up to the playoffs and they're gonna play through all the math matchups with each school in college football 26 to see who will bring glory home. Each matchup I'll be having different coordinators from the office help me get to the natty. The first stream is going to be on Wednesday night. Tonight if you're listening to this 7:30 Central, 8:30 Eastern on the part of my take YouTube, bring glory home this holiday season with college football 26 for less. Just in time for the College Football playoff. Take the reins of your favorite team or lead this year's underdog to the championship. The playbook is yours. Gear up for playoff glory with 50% off the College Football 26 Deluxe Edition for Xbox at www.ea.comcfb26 and tune into the Doug Stream tonight, 7:30 Central on the Pardon My Take YouTube Again, go to www.ea.comcfb 26 for 50 off with the College Football 26 Deluxe Edition for XBox. Okay, back to D' Amico Ryan's. Are you. So I know you guys, you know, most coaches are, it's week to week. You're going, you know, you're focused on Arizona right now. But have you taken a little peek at the schedule and are you nervous about Philip Rivers?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Is he back?

[Big Cat]

He's back. He's. He's signed with the practice squad for the Colts today.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Man, congrats, Philip, man. I just. That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Phillip's older than me, man. I think he's gonna do a great job there though. You know, Shane, he's been with Shane before so I can understand why, why Shane is getting. He knows how to run the offense. Right. He knows how to, you know, go out and make great decisions with the football. So, man, I'm excited to see see Philip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you guys have any battles back in the day?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, he probably got the best of me every time. He's such a, such a gutsy player, man, such an elite performer. You know, back in the day you had Antonio Gage, Darren Sprouls, man, those guys were unstoppable. So, you know, it's, man, I'm excited to see A guy like that be able to get back into the league.

[PFT Commenter]

You were saying earlier about how you're looking critically about your team figuring out what you need to improve on every week where you're lacking. What's the. What's the main key this week?

[D'Amico Ryan]

The main key is and watching the Cardinals and watching them play. I mean, it's. It's a really good team. Good offensive team, good defense. They've been in a lot of tight battles. So it's not a game, I would say, for our team, where you just. Sometimes you look at the record. I know I go home, my daughter's like, oh, yeah, they only won this amount of games. It's like, no, baby, it's not that easy. Like, it's the NFL. And Jacoby present is playing really great football. Really, like, the way he's playing the quarterback position, he's doing a great job. So for us, a key for this team is we got to be on our details. A lot of things to clean up for us offensively from our last game, also defensively with some communications, coverage identifications and communications. So things that we definitely have to clean up and we have to be on it, because if we're not, this is a really good football team, despite their record.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So the. I want to go back to the beginning of the season. Oh, and three start. I. I know that, like, you know, coaching staffs have belief and they don't get deterred. And I understand that. We're. We sit on the couch and watch the games. We're humans. So when a team starts owing three, we're like, oh, they suck.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Suck.

[Big Cat]

They're done. Was there any part of you that had a little doubt in your head were like, oh, like, this is not going our way.

[D'Amico Ryan]

It. It never. I never had a doubt in my mind because if you really look at the games that we lost, like, we're right there in those games, and we lost those games in the fourth quarter, like, all of them. Like, the last drive of the game is where we lost those games. So for me, it's like, no, man, we. All we have to do is just make a play here, make a play there, and we could be undefeated. So that's how I was looking at the 03 start. I wasn't looking at it as a. A down year. We sucked. I was looking at it, man. As coaches, as players, everybody find a way to make that one play. If you find a way to make that one play, our record could be flipped. And the guys have just stayed the course no matter how it's looked throughout the season, no matter how games have looked, guys have stayed the course, made the plays we needed to make, and we finished games the right way, which has allowed us to be in a position we're in right now.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I was definitely in the doubters camp. Every year for the last nine years on this show, a team that starts 02 with Super bowl aspirations, I call, I say it's done. They're done. They're not going to win the Super Bowl. And part of me saying that is that if they do win the Super Bowl, I'll cut off the tip of my pinky. You guys are my pinky team this year. Year. It's. I'm very nervous. So the only times I think the. The 20. Was it 2017 or 18 Texans.

[PFT Commenter]

It was 20. Yeah, maybe 2017.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, 2018. They were a pinky team. Last year's Rams team was the pinky team. So I've only. I think out of the nine years, only two of the teams have gone to the playoffs. You guys are. Look like you're going to go to the playoffs. Like, if you win the super bowl and I have to cut off. Cut off the tip of my pinky, will you at least let me do, like, a. Make a wish, like, come down to camp and like, you know, like, put on the pads and run a play with the boys, like, do something for me.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We make that super bowl, you can do whatever you want, baby. You're welcome here. Anything.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I mean, just think about it, though. Like, when you're. If you're in the super bowl and you're, like, getting ready for the game, you'd be like, there's. There's a podcaster who's. Whose pinkies at stake here. Maybe think twice. Like, I'm a father as well. Like, just think twice about it. I don't know.

[D'Amico Ryan]

We'll let you save that pink and you still come down and run some plays. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Or at least send him, like, a get well assumed card while he's in the hospital.

[Big Cat]

Oh, maybe. Maybe we could. Maybe we could figure out a way, like, if I. If I pussy out of the pinky, maybe, like, Will Anderson gets to blindside sack me.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Oh, you don't want.

[PFT Commenter]

Or maybe send him a ring. Yeah, send him a pinky ring.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, send me a pinky ring.

[D'Amico Ryan]

That's a good one. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm officially nervous, though, because I thought you guys were. Were cooked. I'm. I'm an idiot. I'm a.

And yeah, that's at stake right now. So you guys are my pinky team. And it's, It's, It's. It's very scary with the way you guys are playing football.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, man. It's the beautiful thing about sports. Right. That's why we all love sports. Like, no one truly knows, like, what's going to happen. Everybody has their opinions on how things are going to go, but that's the beauty of it, man. You don't know what's going to happen. Like, that's why you continue to stay locked in throughout a game, throughout a season. So many variables that plays, man. That's what makes it so exciting. That's why I enjoy the competition of sports, because it may look like you're down and out, but, man, you keep punting, you keep swinging no matter what, and things can flip for you at any given time. And that's where our team is right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After the SEC title game, were you, like, alabama's down and out, man?

[D'Amico Ryan]

That was, that was. It hurt us. I mean, for me watching that game, I thought. I thought they were out, but they found a way to get back into the playoffs, and now, hey, they have new life. You're in the playoffs. Oh, and o. Wreck like, let's go see if they can go and beat Oklahoma. Be a great matchup. No, Oklahoma is going to be a rowdy place, but see if can turn the tide and find a way to get a win.

[PFT Commenter]

You think Alabama can win the championship this year?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Take it one game at a time. And I think, you know, with this team, you again, you never know, like, what can happen. Can they win a championship? I think, yes, they can. Every team that's made the playoffs, they're deserving of it, and they have an opportunity to win it. You just got to go out, you know, and make those. Make the plays. You need to make the winner.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that you do coach speak even for teams that you don't coach. Like, is there. Do you have. Do you have an NBA team that you root for?

[D'Amico Ryan]

We're rooting for the Rockets, man.

[PFT Commenter]

So if I were to say, like, do you. Do you think they can win the NBA championship this year? You'd be like, we got to take it one game at a time. You can't overlook anybody. Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

No.

[Big Cat]

Why.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Why would you overlook anybody, man? You got to go out. You got to take that approach every single time with me as sports, because who are you overlooking? Like, that's. To me, to overlook somebody is disrespectful to the. To Your opponent, like, we're all professionals. All those guys play hard. They want to win the game. So you don't have anybody to overlook. You got to go out and play your best.

[PFT Commenter]

Every single time you overlook somebody, you might end up cutting your pinky off. It's a good life lesson.

[Big Cat]

No, you not want to do that. So it does feel like your season, you know, obviously the 0 and 3 start, but it really turned on that Jaguars game that when you guys were down 19 and Davis Mills brings you back, was there anything shared in the huddle or, you know, before that comeback where it's like, oh, it's Davis Mills time. Because he was, he was phenomenal and he did a great job as a backup in those three games that he started.

[D'Amico Ryan]

And Davis was outstanding, man. In that stretch of games, Davis were able to win three games for us. I mean, that's why we are where we are right now. Now it's because of what Davis did for us. And especially in that Jacksonville game. It was nothing said. It was just Davis going through his progression. He saw an open there. He took it, was able to run the football in and it was the, the huge play that we needed to flip our season. So I mean, this season can't be talked about without talking about Davis and the job that he's done for our team. Just being a backup quarterback, going in, handling your job, handling business the right way and winning games for. So man shouts out to Dave, he's done an outstanding job and, you know, exciting to have your. Excited to have a backup quarterback of his caliber. Quarterbacks are hard to come by and let alone to have a guy, you know, sitting in a ringer who can go out and win a couple games for you, man, that's. We can't be. We couldn't be more happy with Davis.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just how big is his neck?

It's big, right? Like, we don't know. We've never met him, but we see it on tv. Is it. Are you ever like, whoa, that is a big neck, dude.

[D'Amico Ryan]

You should meet him, man.

[PFT Commenter]

We know. We, we appreciate him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're Davis Mills fans.

[PFT Commenter]

We're in Mills mafia.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And yeah, Mafia.

[Big Cat]

I like that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When we start scouting quarterbacks, we, we measure up to the eyes. We don't measure above the eyes in terms of how tall they are. And by that metric, he's got a very efficient body in terms of maximizing his. His eyes height. So we, we appreciate him coming right out of the draft. Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

That's awesome, man.

[Big Cat]

Wait, but you didn't answer the question. How big is his neck?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Bigger than mine.

[Big Cat]

It's a big neck.

[PFT Commenter]

There was a, there was another moment this season that I thought I may have been a pivotal point for you guys, too. Maybe you can share with us. But when C.J. stroud said that we have to have hard conversations with each other, we're having hard conversations now, and we tried to, to kind of pick up that mantra and we, we now have a lot of open, hard conversations amongst ourselves here at Barstool. What, what type of hard conversations were happening after that? 03 start.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, it's no hard conversations. It's. It's a conversation about being a professional.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Just as you guys are. You. You're expected to do a job and do it to the best of your ability. So it's nothing hard. I guess it's hard nowadays to hear the truth.

[Big Cat]

Truth.

[D'Amico Ryan]

And that's a lot of things, you know, that everybody has to, you know, be able to accept. Just in our society, like hearing somebody tell you the truth, hearing someone criticize what you're doing as a professional, like, that's our role. And so for me, I always tell the guys the truth on. It's either you did a good job or it's not good enough. We got to find a way to get better. Some guys accept it. Well, some guys don't. If you feel like that's, you know, that's a hard conversation and maybe it is hard for you, but you have to get over it. Understand, we're all men here. We all have jobs to do.

[PFT Commenter]

Some people can't. They don't like the truth sometimes.

[D'Amico Ryan]

No. You know, everybody likes to be told how great they are, how great a job they're doing. And the criticism sometimes can come off as an attack, but it's not. We're all here looking to improve. We're all looking to grow and get better.

[PFT Commenter]

It's because we care about each other that we're able to tell the truth. Right, Right.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Exactly. Do you guys have those conversations?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we do hard conversations a lot. It happens all the time.

[Big Cat]

Like, hard conversation. Let's do a hard conversation right now. When you had, I can't remember what game it was, but you guys couldn't score from the 1 yard line like 10 plays in a row. Were you like, this is hard conversation. I don't know if we can play football anymore.

[D'Amico Ryan]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a hard conversation.

[D'Amico Ryan]

It's a hard conversation when you can't get in for the one yard line. That's A tough one. It's a tough one to take, but it's true.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Different ways to figure it out.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I'm sure Nick Chubb is probably really good at. At listening to the hard conversations, but is he capable of being a guy that has a hard conversation with somebody? Because I don't think I. In all the mic dubs that I've ever seen of Nick Chubb, I don't think I've ever heard him actually say a word. I think he's just like completely silent. We love watching him play and he's a beast. But yeah, I guess really what I wanted you to do is just talk about Nick Chubb and. And what he's like, his presence on your team. Because he's one of our favorite running backs.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, one of my favorite guys too, man. Really? Like you said. I said on the mic up, he's a quiet guy. He doesn't. He doesn't say much, but he doesn't have to say much. Like, you watch this guy work. Like, man, when guys are not even supposed to be in the weight room they're done with, he's in there still working, still finding ways to improve his body, make sure he's ready to go. Like, he's just one of the hardest workers I've seen. And he does talk to guys on the side. I see him chatting with guys during practice on the sideline, talking to everybody, rookies o line receivers. He's talking to everybody on the side, but he's more of a one on one conversation type of guy. He's not a me guy. It's never about him. It's truly a team guy who's is one of the most competitive guys I've been around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I saw clips. There was a clip, I think it was yesterday. Will Anderson, who is an absolute game wrecker, unbelievable player. There was a clip from Sunday Night Football that after the game, Rodney Harrison was like, hey, why did you walk by me and not even like, give me a head, Like a head nod or like a hello? And Will Anderson explained that when he gets on the field before a game, he gets in such a zone that he'll even ignore his own family trying to say hello to him. Him. Does he acknowledge you when he's in that zone or do you just leave him alone?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, it depends on the game. Sometimes I have to leave him alone. He's so locked in. He's gonna. Sometimes I. But then if we are locked in, sometimes he shakes my hand so hard, I'm like, dang, I don't wanna. I better not do that again. I better avoid this guy on game day because he is so locked in. We're doing a team drill and on game day and he goes against our tight ends, and I'm like, oh, my goodness. This is the most violent play ever in warm up. So he is completely locked in. But when, when that's what you want from a guy like him, man, he's always dialed in. You want your guys locked in like Will on game day because that's the most important thing that matters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The way he described it was scary because it's like he goes to a different place. The fact that he's like, yeah, I ignore my family sometimes. And then you watch it on the field, you're like, oh, that makes sense. He's just absolutely destroying quarterbacks, destroying games. He's. He's, he's just a weapon out there.

[D'Amico Ryan]

He's the Terminator, man. That's why, that's why he has that nickname. He's the Terminator. He goes. He's ready to destroy anybody. He's not worried about family. He's not worried. He's worried about destroying his opponent.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I thought that, that you guys might be a little intimidated going into last Sunday night's game after Andy Reid's comments that they were going to tickle your tonsils. When, when you heard him say that, what was your reaction?

[Big Cat]

Action.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Right. What I'm doing now, just smiling like.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, all right, Andy.

[D'Amico Ryan]

All right, man. I guess they're throwing everything at us.

[PFT Commenter]

Were your, Were your tonsils tickled at all on Sunday night?

[D'Amico Ryan]

They were not.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[D'Amico Ryan]

They're pretty cold.

[PFT Commenter]

Good to know. After last year's loss, I was against the Chiefs. Was there any message that you took from that loss into this most recent Sunday night football game that you brought back up?

[D'Amico Ryan]

You know, I, I didn't mention at all our game from last year, the playoff game. I thought it was something that was understood for most of our guys, and it, it didn't need to be stated like, we understood, you know, how our season ended there. But I, I don't. I didn't want to make it a big deal. Like, to me, I truly tried to make it, like, as you guys said, a coach speak like it was the next game. Like. And that's what I wanted our guys to focus on. I didn't want us to put Kansas City on this pedestal. I just wanted to go out and like, let's just play good football. I don't care about the names on the jersey I don't care who we're going against. Let's just go play how the Texans play, and let's just play relentless versus whatever happens. Like, just be relentless and let's just finish in the fourth quarter. That was my mindset. That was the approach. Had nothing to do with last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Coach, I got one last question for you. It's the Roback question. R H O-B-A C K.com promo code. Tate, take 20 off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take the Bills Thursday night game. I noticed something in that game and. And we actually were doing a case race during the game, but I rewatched it after the next morning. That end of game, Dion Dawkins gets a false start. And I was like, I don't remember the Houston crowd having this much of an impact before. Have you noticed that this. This, like, the crowd and you guys have a true. Do you notice that you have, like, a true home field advantage now? Maybe it's because of the way the defense is playing, but it's credit to the fans. Like, it just feels different this year than it has in the past for the fans and the way the team's playing.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah, our fans have definitely improved. And that game right there was one of the best I've been a part of where our. Our fans truly, they affected the opposing team, and that's how it should be. You know, we're in a dome stadium. It can get pretty loud here when our fans are loud and into it. And I think it does have a lot to do with, you know, it was an exciting game. Like, our defense was playing really well, and our fans felt that. And our guys actually felt the energy from our fans. So anytime we can make it difficult, man, we need that all the time. And we need, you know, NRZ to be a difficult place to play in. And they. They proved it the last time we were out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. It's crazy. Well, good luck the rest of the season. Not too much luck. Just think about my pinky again. I'm a father of three. I'll never do it again. So you can win a Super bowl next year. But just think about it. Just have a little thought about it. Okay?

[D'Amico Ryan]

I got you, my man. Really appreciate you guys having me on.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's wrap up the show with guys on chicks. Max. We taped the show in in two different parts. So we did the first part of the show earlier this morning and now we're in the afternoon. Are we good? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You stabbed a snowman.

[Big Cat]

That doesn't sound like it's good.

[Max]

We just did a hug.

[Big Cat]

We just did a huge.

[Max]

This doesn't need to be like an entire show.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm just curious if you're feeling less stabby.

[Big Cat]

I love you.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I also think the Eagles are make the playoffs.

[Max]

I don't. It doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

They're going to get blown out first round, win the super bowl next year or make at least make the super bowl next year.

[Big Cat]

With the new oc.

[Max]

With the new oc.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

This is just how it goes. Get blown out in the first round Super Bowl. Blown out in the first round super bowl this year you just have to get blown out in the first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Next year Super Bowl Max. Would you rather not make the playoffs and get a better draft pick?

[Max]

No, I want to get. I want to first round blowout so that next year could be Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Would that be more embarrassing though, if.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

If they didn't make the playoffs? I feel like that would show.

[Max]

No, you're not understanding.

[PFT Commenter]

I get it. I get blown out, preferably by the.

[Max]

Bucks, but I don't think it's possible to play the Bucks in the first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you like to apologize for stabbing the snow?

[D'Amico Ryan]

No, man.

[Max]

Absolutely not. I wish I.

[Big Cat]

If the.

[Max]

If more were close to me, I would have stabbed them all.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[Max]

I just didn't like the one I did. I let you guys do your thing in your. In your room over there. Whatever you think that good. I'm happy that you guys had your fun. I didn't like it being so close. I just didn't like it close to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Max Verstappen.

[Max]

Yeah. Max be stabbing you.

[Big Cat]

You are right.

[D'Amico Ryan]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It's four. It will be four years.

[PFT Commenter]

That'll work.

[Big Cat]

Four year trend.

Four year trend. Go to the Super Bowl. Get blown out in the first round. Go to the Super Bowl. Get it blown out in the first round.

[Max]

It's a good. It's a. It's a good track.

[Big Cat]

You'd sign up for that. Anyone would sign up for that trend.

[Max]

I'm signing up for that trend.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, guys and chicks.

[Hank]

Why is my boyfriend so bad at keeping secrets? I know almost all of my Christmas presents and I know he's proposing soon.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you like him to keep secrets? That's the real question. Like, would you prefer that he just keeps stuff from you?

[Big Cat]

Also, the proposing thing is all girls know because they tell their friends and then their friends tell the. The guy what. What ring they want.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of people just go shopping for rings together now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which I feel like that takes a lot of.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The surprise out of it.

[Big Cat]

So this is not like you wanted him to know. Because the alternative is he surprises you in a setting you don't like with a ring you don't want. Think about that.

[PFT Commenter]

So actually, yeah, I think it's just that women overall have such little trust in their guys to. To do a good job of picking a venue and a ring even present.

[Hank]

Like you'd rather just get the Christmas present they want then.

[Big Cat]

Correct. I also think there's something that. And this is just like our dog brains. If I buy something for someone but I plan on giving it to him in like three weeks, I still want to tell them right away. Be like, oh, I bought you this.

[Max]

My engagement was full surprise. No idea.

[Big Cat]

The ring was.

[Max]

The ring was not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But the, the time.

[PFT Commenter]

The time location.

[Max]

Yeah, time location.

[PFT Commenter]

But were there any parameters that were set for you?

[Max]

Zero.

[PFT Commenter]

She didn't say, like, not at a bird's game.

[Max]

No, I just knew that that'd be a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart guy.

[Big Cat]

What did you. You didn't even. She didn't even know you were gonna be there, right?

[Max]

She didn't even know. She. I said I had. Had had to work that Thursday, and then I went to her. To her family's home in a different state.

[Big Cat]

Wow. What a guy.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That's a.

[Max]

She was so surprised. She was so surprised. Her sister asked her to get her nails done with her, and she was like, absolutely not. I don't feel like going to get my nails done.

[Big Cat]

Oh, she should have been. She should have known. Getting nails done.

[Max]

Stupid. Stupid. By her. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Will I ever win the emotional sports battle with my fiance? We were going to get married next fall, but after two years of watching his Saturdays be truly made or destroyed based on how the Tennessee balls perform in football, I've given up. We're getting married in May. When they lose, he's mad. When they win, but don't play great, he's mad. When they win and play great, he's happy. But now all he talks about is the next game or some player. And now I'm mad. I'm a Mississippi State fan, so I'm used to disappointment, but I don't let it ruin my days and weeks. Please advise.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, fortunately, it's about to be Atlanta Brave season and Tennessee Volunteers basketball season for Big T. So I think she should probably be able to cheer up soon.

[Big Cat]

The real answer to this is also.

When kids come. Then, yeah, you'll have it will. It will lessen a little bit because you can always drop on him something my wife hits me with that hurts every time. She'd be like, like, your bad mood. Like, the kids notice your bad mood. And then you're like, oh, all right. You're right. Like, I can't be this upset about a game. And then you. Because, like, you can't. That's crazy. Like, a little kid being like, why are you in a bad mood? Oh, the Bears lost. Like, it's. You can't do that. So that will be your. Just hit him with that when you have kids.

[Max]

I. I think the kids should learn, though, that you need to be in.

[Big Cat]

A bad mood when your team loses. But you can't have it. Yes. But you can't have it, like. Like, instantly. Yes. I don't get that comment. But, like, if it's like, a day after I get like, hey, it's Monday. We're having dinner, and you're still in a bad mood.

[Hank]

Why did Daddy stab Santa? Stab the snowman?

[Max]

Well, that was. Santa was. Was a troll.

[Big Cat]

It's. It but it is. You're right. Like, I. I'm allowed to still be in a bad mood right after a game. It's when it carries over. You can't be like, you can't be. This game has. Has ruined my entire week.

[PFT Commenter]

When it comes to.

[Big Cat]

And your kids make you happier.

[PFT Commenter]

When it comes to just being a guy, though, we bottle up our emotions so much. I do think it's. It's kind of healthy to be able to. To be angry after something, to be excited after. If you're mad, if you're sad, you can be like, I'm so pissed off at my coach. I'm so mad about that. Call the refs. The refs. I hate the refs. I feel like any emotional release for guys is a good thing. Overall, all.

[Hank]

Why is it that I can make a joke to my co workers and they look at me like I'm stupid, and then a week later a dude can make the same one and it's the funniest ever.

[Big Cat]

Say that again.

[Hank]

Probably delivery. Why is it that I can make a joke to my co workers and they look at me like I'm stupid?

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Then a week later a dude can make the same joke and it's the funniest ever.

[Big Cat]

You're not funny.

[Hank]

Delivery.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all about the delivery. Also, maybe your male co workers are. Are heavier than you. Yeah. And when heavier people say things, it's funnier. It's actually a compliment that they don't think that you're funny. It means you're too skinny.

[Big Cat]

I'd have to see a. A test case of how she's delivering this. And. And if she's funny. But this. This. This reeks of, like, why is no one laughing? I'm so funny. And everyone's like, she keeps making these uncomfortable jokes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

So my recommendation would be put on, like, £50.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Yeah.

[Hank]

And if it's a dick, it's probably like a dick joke. Could you gotta.

[PFT Commenter]

If you. Yeah. If you're making a dick joke, culture.

[Hank]

Is not your costume.

[Big Cat]

That's right.

[PFT Commenter]

It also might be kind of hot.

[Hank]

Or like a fart joke. Oh, she talks.

[Big Cat]

Take a huge no.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I just blew up the bathroom.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Oh. But if the dude said the guy. Dude says, that's hilarious. Like, yeah, you did, bro. Let me go check.

[PFT Commenter]

But wait. It sounds in this situation like there's a male co worker that's actually stealing your jokes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Doing the same jokes, but better.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, like. Yeah. Aping your material. That's an issue right there. I would go to hr.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely.

[Max]

All right.

[Hank]

This isn't a guys on chick, but it's a good one to end on in the nightmare scenario that is the Texans and Packers make the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Jesus.

[Hank]

Who will Big Cat and the rest of the crew be rooting for? A pinky being snipped or packers get another one before the Bears?

[PFT Commenter]

I think I would have to root for the Houston Texans.

[Big Cat]

I won't even watch.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I would have to go for.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna get. I think I have to start talking to like a doctor or something again. Remember I did that that year? I like, talked to. I think I'm gonna have to talk to someone.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if it's. What do you think about this, Big Cat? Texans Patriots, first round of the playoffs. How are you feeling going in that?

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna be nervous for every Texans game until they're eliminated. It's gonna be the same as the Rams. They can win the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like.

I think they can. Absolutely.

[Hank]

What's their percentage to make the playoffs?

[D'Amico Ryan]

High.

[Big Cat]

Very high now. And they have no one playing. They're playing no one at the end of the season. I think they play the Raiders. I just have to hope their offense isn't good enough. That's really all it is.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I would have to root for the. For the Texans because I would like to see the. The way that you would manage to get out. Not get out of it.

[D'Amico Ryan]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sort of like abandoning it, but, like figuring out a way to have it done.

[Max]

1.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm more curious about that.

[Big Cat]

It's the tip of the pinky. It's like. Right. I think I could just get it cut off right before the tip of the bone.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I might actually. What did the packers trade for Micah Parsons?

[Big Cat]

Two first rounders.

[PFT Commenter]

So those first round picks are. They're both tied into Green Bay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'd probably root for the packers then so that the Cowboys get a slightly worse pick.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. That'd be nice of you. Yeah. I would just. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to think about it, but I'm definitely thinking about it. I mean, I didn't. I didn't tell. I didn't want to ask d' Amico Ryan's. Because he's probably. Can't talk about it. But I. I said this a couple weeks ago. I like. I looked up, like, is Tank Dell gonna come back? Because I'm nervous about that. But that's really. Is their Offense, their offense does is not good. So you just hope that their offense stays not good.

[Hank]

I think.

[Shane]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Right. I don't know.

This is the most wide openen AFC is a gauntlet.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it a gauntlet?

[Big Cat]

You just, you said you're not scared of like any. The only teams you're scared of in the AFC are not in the playoffs.

[Hank]

Still a gauntlet.

[Big Cat]

It's not a gauntlet. Your only scary teams are the Chiefs and the Ravens, so welcome.

[PFT Commenter]

Matt, you've been, you've been trash talking the entire conference. Still a gauntlet.

[Hank]

Someone's got to win it though though.

[Big Cat]

I, yeah, I, I need like a good old fashioned.

Like give me.

Rams, Jag, Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

That be fun.

[Big Cat]

That be great. Be something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just I definitely root for the Jags.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean the whole America would probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Root for the Jags. America's team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, you look good by the way.

[Big Cat]

You look great.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the tan looks excellent. Excellent.

[Big Cat]

You look great. Shane is back. Shane.

How you doing? Tell us real quick that was your first ever Chargers. You're a Charger super fan. How was it?

[Shane]

It was unbelievable. So far is insane.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I have nothing really to compare it to, but it was, it was crazy even.

[Big Cat]

Have you been in any other NFL stadiums?

[Shane]

I went to a T AT T for like Wrestlemania, but it's like a different vibe.

[Hank]

Vibe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What'd you think about the. The way that the defense played?

[Shane]

Defense was unbelievable. It was offense, super, super ugly game, but just unreal game.

[Big Cat]

A lot of ups and downs.

[Shane]

Dude, that, that double fumble play was like the craziest up and down. Like my heart was bumping through my chest.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think that's the first time that's ever happened where you've had all that occur on the same play in NFL history.

[Shane]

It was, it was like, it was almost like we already did this.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we're talking to Shane. He was at the game.

[Max]

Well, the listener has already heard this conversation.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't speak for the listeners.

[Max]

They have.

[PFT Commenter]

Not with Shane.

[Max]

I didn't, I didn't. I just told you what the listener heard.

[PFT Commenter]

Shane, from your perspective, how do you think the Eagles played?

[Shane]

I think the Eagles, I thought, I mean they were unbelievable on defense. Like Herbert before overtime was pressured 72% or something like that, which is just I guess like a record breaking number. Just defense is unbelievable. Offense, it was just like nobody was open for any team.

[Big Cat]

Did you say hello to any of the players?

[Shane]

I did not. We were on like the Eagle side and so. Yeah, so we saw the Cooper DeJean and stuff like that, but didn't, didn't really say what's up?

[PFT Commenter]

What's up to Coop, did you, did you get a chance to see Jerry o' Connell at all?

[Shane]

I didn't know. Okay, I was looking out for him, but I didn't, I didn't catch him.

[Big Cat]

It's a big stadium.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you say that the defense played better or that the Eagles offense blew a lot of chances from your perspective at the game?

[Shane]

I think the defense played better there like wasn't chances like the. There once the. Both scores, both touchdowns were from like massive broken plays that just happened.

[Max]

What about when they got the ball? It was first and goal from the two.

[PFT Commenter]

What about when they got the ball is first to go from the two?

[Shane]

Shane, when was that?

[Max]

Yes, the Eagles got the ball first and goal from the two. They got stuffed on a run and then, then hurts through with touchdown to A.J. brown. They got called back by a holding and then it was a field goal.

[Shane]

Yeah, what about it?

[Max]

You said there was no chances.

[Shane]

Well, yeah, but I mean like he got you there. Look at Dallas Goddard.

[Max]

How about Dallas Goddard? How about when A.J. brown dropped the ball in the end zone? Was that a chance?

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, you know what I mean.

[Max]

Like you said, there were no chances. I just gave you two chances.

[Shane]

I don't know what I brought hostility towards you. I don't know what this is about.

[Max]

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not bringing back, I'm not bringing.

[Big Cat]

He's just, he's just stating fat.

[Shane]

But like those are if in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of plays where there's chances, it's like it was like 2%. Like there's nobody open at all either team.

[Big Cat]

There was chances.

[PFT Commenter]

And, and to Shane's point, what if 50 of Max's chances that he brought up were not touchdowns, Right? It was getting stopped from. From first and go from the two yard line and you got stopped, dropped and then you committed a penalty, then you kicked a field goal. What about that chance, Shane?

[Max]

I didn't say that.

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[Big Cat]

You want me to do it?

I don't want to do it, Memes. I don't want to do it because you keep getting it in it like this.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Come on.

[Big Cat]

Number three.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that was Hank.

[Big Cat]

I was Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna cancel Hank.

[D'Amico Ryan]

How did you.

[Big Cat]

How did you get. Fall for that one?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna get. I'm canceling Hank.

[Big Cat]

You canceling him?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm canceling him personally.

[D'Amico Ryan]

No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Just blasting that photo out.

[D'Amico Ryan]

What.

[Big Cat]

What number are you gonna pick now? I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just focused on canceling Hank.

[Big Cat]

Okay, this would be insane if it was 100. I like that pick Memes. You have a number or. No.

[Max]

99.

[Big Cat]

Poke memes. You got a number. You're gonna pick a number.

[PFT Commenter]

48.

[Jerry O'Connell]

16.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[Max]

Also, there's a big fear that.

Memes gets it on the one time he doesn't pick three. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. That's. That's a dangerous game. Of the. Of the three that we play.

[PFT Commenter]

Play it is.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna go 57.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll go 15.

[Max]

31. Like, 48 seems like such a better number than three.

[Big Cat]

It does. It does.

[Max]

Like, I can see 48 popping up there, right?

[Big Cat]

You wanna. You wanna swap memes? You want to swap back?

[PFT Commenter]

With what?

[Max]

With three.

[Big Cat]

Hank is.

[PFT Commenter]

It is on the table.

[D'Amico Ryan]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I don't want to get canceled.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead. Means you are swapped. Yeah. Yeah. Officially. Officially official swap.

[PFT Commenter]

This.

[Big Cat]

This counts. No. Canceled.

[Hank]

Let's go.

[Max]

Oh, what if. What if it's 48 then?

[PFT Commenter]

Does he.

[Max]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

All right, I'm going 57 for shout out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Awl.

[Big Cat]

Mike Davin. He said, my girlfriend just watched the pod for the first time and guessed 13 for the lottery ball and said, wow, that was so easy. Then I explained to her how important my memes has never gotten it. How he's never got it, she said. How has he never gotten it? She said. And then she gets 57 for this one.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. Guys on chicks question. Probably cheats on.

[Big Cat]

Does everyone else guess?

[Max]

8. 48. 48 coming up would be a problem.

[Big Cat]

57.

[Max]

3 coming up would also be a problem.

[Big Cat]

Now.

34. You want to do one more? How many? He's 44. 3 guesses away from beating.

[Max]

No, now he's 42.

[Big Cat]

42.

[PFT Commenter]

I already guess it. So you got same numbers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, same numbers.

[Max]

You didn't get.

[Big Cat]

You didn't get it. Did. Did. Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Nope. Nope, Yep. Nope.

[Max]

So this is 3.

[Big Cat]

74. 74.

[Hank]

You guys.

[Big Cat]

Sam.

It.

Sam.

Dance.