Jameis Winston, The Boys Are Back In Studio, Kevin Durant's Alleged Burners, NBA All Star Game, Olympics And Vacation Recap

Summary

Pardon My Take — "Jameis Winston, The Boys Are Back In Studio, Kevin Durant's Alleged Burners, NBA All Star Game, Olympics And Vacation Recap"

Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Jameis Winston

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Episode Overview

In this supersized return-from-vacation episode, Big Cat and PFT Commenter are back in studio (with Hank, Max, and the full crew), catching up on everything from the NBA All-Star Game and the wild Kevin Durant burner account drama, to Olympic curling scams and the sports-centric travels of the hosts. The episode also features a classic, energetic interview with Jameis Winston, who shares locker room stories, thoughts on his New York Giants future, standout NFL moments, and his perspective on the changing college and pro football landscape.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Super Bowl and Quarterback Banter

(02:30 - 04:05)

• The hosts kick things off by (mock) celebrating Sam Darnold’s elite status, indulging in classic PMT QB rankings satire.
• Hank’s “troll” voice is the subject of gentle ribbing, with everyone noting his vocal fatigue after a Disney trip.
  Quote:
  • "I'm happy for Sam Darnold. Good guy. Elite quarterback." – Hank (03:12)
  • "Elite. Elite. Top five." – PFT & Big Cat (03:16)

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2. NBA All-Star Weekend Recap & KD Burner Account Drama

(04:19 - 13:58)

• All-Star Weekend: Lillard wins the 3PT contest; Dunk contest seen as forgettable.

• Kevin Durant’s alleged burner accounts—“get off my Dickerson” and “get higher 777”—are dissected. The hosts speculate, meme, and revel in KD being “terminally online.” Quotes:

  • "The best part, in my opinion, was the nickname he gave Westbrook — ‘Triple Double Cocaine Bear.’” – Big Cat (05:34)
  • "It’s a little different when he's talking shit about his teammates in group chats." – PFT Commenter (07:29)

• All-Star Game’s low effort gets defended. Anthony Edwards’ social media absence is mocked with affection.

• NBA tanking: Adam Silver mulling a high-stakes lottery team tournament; hosts critique its logic and propose draft reforms, referencing both NBA and NIL/college sports changes.

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3. Olympics & Curling Cheating Scandal

(32:43 - 41:00)

• Olympic Curling controversy: Canadian team allegedly cheating by holding the granite past the hog line. The sport’s “gentleman’s game” ethos and lack of refs are discussed. Quotes:

  • "Apparently everyone knew Canada was cheating. Sweden had their own broadcast cameras...They called them out." – PFT Commenter (34:15)
  • "This is a bad look for Canada." – Big Cat (35:28)

• Team USA’s curling fortunes are hyped; hosts commit (half-jokingly) to getting behind Team USA Pride.

• The general Olympic experience: mascots (Milo & Tina the stoats), U.S. hockey excitement, infamous "Olympic Village sex" stories, and the pros/cons of various winter sports (with Cool Runnings and bobsled/luge tangents).

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4. Chris Paul’s Awkward Retirement and NBA Culture

(24:27 - 29:56)

• Chris Paul’s midseason retirement is panned. The hosts recount stories of CP3's intensity and inability to “chill,” making him a difficult vet and a poor fit for reserve roles. Quote:

  • "He was a pain in the ass when he was a great player, and now he's not a great player..." – PFT Commenter citing an NBA executive (28:17)

• The “no rings Mount Rushmore” is debated—Chris Paul, John Stockton, AI, Patrick Ewing, Steve Nash.

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5. Jameis Winston Interview Highlights

(84:52 - 123:58)

On Giants Tenure and Harbaugh

• Jameis is excited to return to the New York Giants, praising Coach Harbaugh’s culture and intent, and reflecting on New York/New Jersey life. Quote:
  • "I am excited to be back with the New York Football Giants and serve that organization to my very best." (90:13)

On Cam "Scatterboo" and NFL Locker Room Dynamics

• Describes rookie Cam Scatterboo’s intensity and rookie trash talk, giving insight into modern athletes' early confidence (“They just walk into the NFL locker room like they're certain of themselves...” – 86:45).
• Shares vivid details on his highlight TD against Detroit, including premeditated celebration and the joy of giving fans memories.

On Backup QB Life & Future Aspirations

• Jameis wants to start, but embraces his role and speaks candidly about the mental grind and team-first approach being the third-stringer. Quote:

  • "If I had to play tight end, I would. But I like playing quarterback." (89:27)

• Hopes for a starting shot: “This role with the dream that Sam Darnold is selling. Being connected with the right minds…” (101:16)

• Boldly declares: "I would love to play 12 more years." (102:02)

All-Time QB Proposal

• When asked if he’d sign up as “all-time QB” for boring NFL matchups, Jameis enthusiastically agrees. Quote:
  • "Yes, sign me up. I get to get on the field? Yes." (98:12)
• Refuses to “duck any wreck”—would never avoid targeting a lockdown defender: "Not ever in my life...A good throw beats great coverage, right?" (122:35)

On NIL, College Football and Family

• Discusses his brother joining Florida State, importance of family, and transitioning from old-school to NIL era. Laments past “scandals” (crab legs, tattoos) as laughable by today’s standards.

On Personal Growth

• Reflects on playing through injury, learning from adversity, and his team-first philosophy—even as a third stringer, referencing Drew Brees and Tom Brady’s work ethic.

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6. Hosts' Olympic Sport Debate

(42:45 - 51:05)

• Debates over which Olympic sports they could possibly medal in. Good-natured roasting of skeleton, luge, and bobsled skills; agree that “Cool Runnings” taught them most of what they know about sliding sports.

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7. Vacation Recap

(127:09 - End)

• Each host recaps their vacation: Hank golfed and lost his voice; PFT quit nicotine pouches (sort of), Big Cat relaxed but contemplates quitting pouches via chain of vice-swapping; Max did intense wedding planning; Shane returns from Hawaii with gifts—amusing necklace/“anal bead” banter.
• Hilariously questionable customs experiences; talk of bringing OTC drugs (Toradol) back from Mexico for future "tour episodes."

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8. Who's Back of The Week

(65:09 - 76:55)

• Anthony Kim and the Four Aces (LIV Golf) are back, with a detailed, tongue-in-cheek breakdown of golf drama.
• NFLPA team report cards: New York Jets’ owner Woody Johnson receives lowest marks; memes laments poor franchise culture.
• Michael Jordan wins the Daytona 500. Banter about viral (misinterpreted) videos of MJ with a kid, and the perils of social media scrutiny.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On KD’s Burners:
  "Honestly, he's rent-free inside all our heads right now." – Big Cat (06:47)

• On NBA All-Star Game:
  "If you get mad about the All-Star Game, like, what are you expecting?" – Big Cat (12:31)

• On Curling Cheating:
  "The fact that the Canadian guy said ‘fuck off’ was disgusting. Like, kids are watching." – PFT Commenter (34:16)

• On Jameis Winston’s Highlight TD:
  “A receiver has never caught a ball that's out of bounds. So he gave me a chance… I turned around, I gave him a little doo doo... I finished with a nice finger roll.” – Jameis Winston (88:32)

• On the Backup QB Mindset:
  "Tom Brady was talking about his opportunity at Michigan… every practice rep he was playing a game rep because he didn't know when was going to be his next opportunity. So I was… like, every rep that I have… we're gonna create excitement and guys are gonna want to love playing football when I'm out there." – Jameis Winston (99:02)

• On College Scandals:
  "It's that [crab leg thing] and the Ohio State, like, free tattoo stuff that we look back on. We're just so stupid as a society..." – Big Cat (115:53)

• On All-Time QB Proposal:
  "Yes. Sign me up. I get to get on the field? Yes." – Jameis Winston (98:15)

• On Olympic Luge/Bobsled:
  "99.9% of the world just doesn’t do luge. Why would we do luge?" – PFT Commenter (45:47)

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Timestamps for Memorable Moments

• Sam Darnold Top 5 Banter: 03:12-03:28
• KD's "Triple Double Cocaine Bear": 05:34
• KD Burner Deep Dive: 06:06-07:59
• “Gentleman’s Game”: Canadian Curling Cheating: 34:15-36:35
• Olympic Mascot Lore Discussion: 39:02-43:56
• Chris Paul Retirement/“Pain in the Ass” Story: 28:16
• Jameis's All-Time QB Pitch: 98:00-98:17
• Jameis on “Not ducking any wreck”: 122:35

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Overall Tone & Style

The energy is high, irreverent, and unscripted. The crew leans into inside jokes ("elite" QBs, endless NIL hot takes, Jaymes-love) and internet culture (KD's burner obsession). Jameis Winston blends humor, humility, and football philosophy in a way only he can, making for an uplifting, meme-ready interview. Banter flips effortlessly from sports analysis to vacation storytelling, always with sardonic PMT wit.

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Recurring Themes & Inside Jokes

• Quarterback Elitism: Mocking, reshuffling "top five" lists with a wink.
• “All-Time QB” Solution: The fantasy that both Jameis and Joe Flacco could rescue all bad primetime games.
• Vacation Debriefs: From "quitting nicotine" to "anal bead" necklace jokes.
• Nostalgia for old school scandals: The crab leg and tattoo cases as punchlines in the NIL era.

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For Listeners New and Old

This episode is a quintessential PMT blend: wild, meme-worthy sports news (KD burnergate, All-Star hijinks, Canada curling cheats), authentic NFL interviews (Jameis Winston at his magnetic best), and real-life bro updates (vacations, bad habits, and bachelor party planning). Whether you missed the games, the news, or just the chaos, this episode has it all—with plenty of laughs and big quotes to go around.

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Take.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Part of my take. Welcome to Part of My take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, February 16th, and we are back in studio. The boys are back. Everyone's looking a little more tan, a little more rested. We've got a lot of things we want to talk about. But I wanted to start with the most important thing. Pft. I think you know what I'm going to say. Hank, any words for Sam Darnold? Got anything you want to say to Sam Darnold?

[Hank]

Congrats to Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Because I feel like we didn't really. We didn't fully recap the super bowl. So anything you want to say about Sam Darnold?

[Hank]

No respect to him.

[PFT Commenter]

I just wanted to go to you first to hear your voice.

[Big Cat]

Hank. Did. Did Sam Darnold turn back into Sam Darnold?

[Hank]

I'm happy for Sam Darnold. Good guy. Elite quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Elite.

[PFT Commenter]

Elite.

[Big Cat]

Elite. Top five.

[PFT Commenter]

If we put. If we put Jalen Hurts in the top five. He's got to be in the top five. Has to be. Has to be.

[Big Cat]

Give me your top five.

[Hank]

Drake May. Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa.

[Hank]

Josh Allen. Caleb Williams. Jane Daniels.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's fine. I agree. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Way to appease us.

[Hank]

Turn it over. A new leader.

[PFT Commenter]

We're. We're. We had some technical difficulties. We had to pause for a sec. You said, I'm so over all of this.

[Hank]

I was over.

[PFT Commenter]

You're over it.

[Hank]

Getting. No, like I'm over getting mad.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Friendship. It's friendship time.

[Hank]

I did not say I'm over this. Like, I'm over this, you guys. I meant over, like getting mad about you guys trolling me about that.

[Big Cat]

There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And by the way, the. The troll was mostly because of your voice. I needed to hear your voice again.

[Jameis Winston]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Are you okay?

[Hank]

Same do. I was at Disneyland. I was at Disney World. I was riding roller coasters screaming, I lost my voice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The teacups.

[PFT Commenter]

Teacups.

[Big Cat]

Gotcha.

[Jameis Winston]

All right.

[Hank]

Splash Mountain.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you could. You could. You know, we could put you on a minutes restriction here. Load management. We are back though. Where do we want to. We have so many national sports podcast topics. Should we start with the fact that we had all Star game, a dunk contest, a three point shootout where Damian Lillard won. Who He's. He's not even playing this year. But really the big story was Kevin Durant might have had another burner exposed. And it's fucking awesome because while I. We have no facts to back it up that it's truly him, I'm just going to choose to believe it's him because he has said that he still has a burner out there. And if this is the one he's got a lot of. He's got a lot of relationships to repair.

[Big Cat]

He's got takes. I don't know that he's got relationships to repair necessarily. He's just. Listen the man. All he does is just talk. And if he's not going to do it behind his own account, the KD Trey one, you know, he's open at least about the fact that he's got burners. So the burners are get off my Dickerson and get higher 777 are the two that. That appear to have been allegedly exposed. I don't know that they're actually his. They sound like him. The best part, in my opinion was the nickname that he gave to Westbrook.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Called him Triple Double Cocaine Bear, which is the best nickname that I've ever heard. So, like, credit to Kevin Durant.

[PFT Commenter]

So you don't think he has anything to repair when he basically trashed the Rockets Ascension. Goon can't shoot or pass and it's your fault. That's your future. To the Rockets fans in this group chat. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Listen, he might not be a Shing Gooner. I am a Shing Gooner. It sounds like he might have some peace to. To repair with them. But listen, he. He's going to talk. Kevin Durant's going to talk online. I think you just can't put 100% stock in what he says.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The craziest part about this is that. So it all kind of broke during All Star Game. And again, we don't know if this is actually fact, but it's funny to run with it because it was a very funny story online. The fact that Kevin Durant, in every single shot, it felt like for three hours he was on his phone, maybe doing crisis management or. Here's another theory. I think there's a chance that Kevin Durant loves burner accounts and NBA Twitter so much, he might have been on a third Burner account talking shit about kd. Yeah, like getting in on the. On the free clicks of how, how. How idiotic KD is like kd.

[Big Cat]

Honestly, he's rent free inside of all our heads right now.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It's like we. Every rock we look under is that kd. Every person that replies to us online, that might be kd.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty awesome.

[Big Cat]

He's got a scene, ghosts and I mean, he's a prolific poster. He's not gonna ever give up the burner account life. That's something that we know about Kevin Durant. I don't think that he said anything too like Too mean. Yeah, he talked a little, but it's not like he was a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

That would, that would, that would probably be an awkward conversation. I think there was one that said like if ever since Steve Kerr got punched by mj, he didn't, he didn't fuck with dark skinned guys. That one. You know, like if you see Steve Kerr, he might have to have like a, if this, if this is truly him. Yeah. He did call Jabari mentally handicapped. So he, like again, these are his teammates right now. So again it, you, you may think that it might be nothing, but if, if it is confirmed to be him, I would imagine there could be a couple awkward conversations that take place afterwards. It's a little different than when his Burner account was kind of just going after like random people on NBA Twitter. He could be talking just a tremendous amount of shit about his teammates in group chats.

[Big Cat]

Go to that one about voting.

[Hank]

Why do people think this is true?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't, I actually don't know. That's a good question, Hank. There is the one. The, the. Get off. My Dickerson's profile picture is the same image that Katie tweeted like five years ago.

[Big Cat]

It's the owl, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Seow. Yeah. So that one is a little bit weird, but yeah, it could. It probably is just a Kevin Durant Stan who's pretending to be him. So that's most likely what the case is.

[Big Cat]

This one talking about Booker and Vogel. Two dictators, Stalin and Hitler, Mussolini and Kim Jong Un. That might be. Yeah. Calling a guy Hitler. You might have to have a conversation.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm saying. Like it's not. There's, it's a little bit different in that it. I'm sure Kevin will be just fine, but there could be some awkward conversations.

[Big Cat]

I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that friend would give me the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

The, the, the, the potential. Katie Burner said about what team was.

[Hank]

He on with Simmons, The Nets?

[PFT Commenter]

Shanguni said, I'm going to turn the ball over with this shitty ass team. I don't give a fuck. Your franchise player can't shoot or defend. That's a way bigger issue than my turnovers. Remember, these guys are your future.

[Big Cat]

I have to imagine that every, every NBA player is like this all the time. None of them seem very happy.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I actually like, I think there's no one like Kevin Durant. He is a one of one.

[Big Cat]

The only guys that seem like they're happy are the Oklahoma City Thunder. Everybody else seems like there's, there's something going on in their life. That makes it. In theory, being in the NBA would be the best job ever. Yeah. And. And you have nothing to worry about. But nobody is ever happy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's some guys are happy. Steph Curry seems pretty happy. Steph Curry. Shout out. Seth Curry. Good teammate.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see the report last week about the Kaminga trade? And there was like the, the entire. There's a big. I think it was on Yahoo. Where someone wrote about everything that like transpired in the last few years with Kaminga. And one of the nuggets in it was that there were complaints that Kaminga's family took too much food in the family, like whatever suite area.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And Steph Curry came out was like, that's ridiculous. This is up. That's good teammate.

[Big Cat]

That's also like family. That's the stuff the family would actually argue about.

[PFT Commenter]

We shouldn't be food shaming. The, the, the other, the, the other thought I had when this all happened because it, it came out before the All Star Game, which the All Star Game credit to them was kind of entertaining because a couple guys were actually trying. Anthony Edwards was trying. Wimy Yo Wemby was trying. Yic and and Luca were total zeros. They didn't even play in the last game. But the. All the talk going into this weekend was the NBA All Star Game has hit like a new low. It's so bad. The three point contest, the, the dunk contest has guys that are, you know, if it weren't for who's it. Jace Richardson almost dying off, hitting his head off the backboard and then getting concussed. There was no real memorable moment from the, from the dunk contest. And then they were doing a new format for the All Star game. So could there be a chance that they were like, hey, let's leak a KD burner account so that we can. If this All Star Game doesn't work out, we have something that people are talking about. It's not, it's not just the All Star weekend sucks and tanking is ruining the NBA.

[Big Cat]

Maybe something kind of smart by them to share screenshots of online instead of Michael Jordan screenshots this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, Michael Jordan won the Daytona 500. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Big Cat]

He did. He did.

[PFT Commenter]

He won the Daytona has not done that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

LeBron's never done.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, speaking of LeBron. Not that we're keeping track of any of these things, but did you know that LeBron broke a record today?

[Big Cat]

Did not know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he, he's lost his 11th All Star Game. Most of all time. Wow.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Very impressive.

[Hank]

Yeah, but you got to get there. You got to get there. You're going to lose it.

[Big Cat]

So is it. Did every game today count though, as a loss?

[PFT Commenter]

I know, I know.

[Big Cat]

But so yeah, they did.

[PFT Commenter]

They didn't. They did not end up winning the.

[Big Cat]

Because they didn't win the overall.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. There were two losers, though. Stars or Stripes. And then the world got it. And then one of the Stars or Stripes won.

[Big Cat]

USA1.

[PFT Commenter]

USA won the good part of the US yes. Big time. Love that. Good for us. I did like Anthony Edwards being like, I haven't been on social media in three years. Yeah, we know. Yep, we know, dude. We know. But yeah, that was, there was a lot of weird shit that came out. It's very funny. Like the. Katie, you can basically just. Anytime there's a lull just hit the KD burner, you know, controversy and NBA Twitter just erupts in. In everyone just having a great time.

[Big Cat]

Like, I, I think we've been pretty consistent about the All Star Game recently where if you get mad about the All Star Game, like, what are you expecting? Yeah, well, you have. We have no real room to be upset with it anymore. No, I don't think it's so bad for so long. I will say that, that Mac McClellan not being in the dunk contest sucked. He should have been in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so he actually chose not to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he should. They should have made him.

[PFT Commenter]

So. I hate that I, I'm saying this, but I did read an entire feature on Mac McClung today and he, it kind of sucks. He basically decided not to do it because he's been almost boxed in to being the dunk guy. And it talked about his journey being in G League, being in two way contracts, how after he won the first one, you know, Reggie Miller was saying, you know, give this guy a contract. And his, his mom was talking to Adam Silver. He said, hey, this is finally going to be the moment. None of that happened. And after three in a row, he was like, this is not going to like help my, you know, help me get a contract. And you just keep working on my game. So I actually feel bad for. He's become a prisoner of the dunk. Yeah, but this happened multiple times in his career because he said in college he, he didn't dunk for an entire year because everyone wanted to talk about his dunks. Right.

[Big Cat]

But still, I think this show more than maybe any other show has talked about Mack McClung. Outside of the dunk contest. Probably more than every other sports podcast combined. Yeah, he should be on an act. He should be playing in the NBA. But I especially need him during the dunk contest.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I feel.

[Big Cat]

I feel bad excuse for, like, in the dunk contest, he said that if, if he goes in, then other guys will actually drop out because they know that he'll kick his ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we might have lost Jace Richardson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. These guys might be afraid to compete. No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

I felt bad for maclunk. He's like, everyone just sees me as the dunk guy, and I'm trying to make an NBA roster, and it's not helping me. So he, he, he did release the dunks that he would have done, which would have been sick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, I, I, I, I feel I'm happy that Mac McClung was like, you know what? You can't just use me for my dunks anymore. Because that was kind of what it was. It's like, hey, let's hit the Mac McClung button so that we can have at least something to watch on Saturday nights. Like, no, put me in the NBA and then I'll come back.

[Big Cat]

You know what? I'm going to join him. I'll go on strike from dunking until Mac McClung's on an NBA roster. Will you join?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm in.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely in memes, actually.

[Hank]

No, no promises.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. You're going to dunk again or attempt.

[Hank]

I'm just saying no promises.

[PFT Commenter]

Or talk about dunking for.

[Max]

I'm willing to promise that I will not be dunking.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely will not.

[Hank]

I'm not making any promises.

[PFT Commenter]

Not with that voice. The. We also had Adam Silver is maybe going to address tanking. Yes. There's going to maybe be a tournament among the lottery teams to determine draft order. I kind of like that. I also don't. My, My rule that I came up with. Or actually, I think our colleague and good friend Nick came up with it. If you. What they need to do for all sports is if you don't reach a certain level of win percentage in consecutive years, you have to sell the team. Which that would be awesome, too. If you win less than 20 games in the NBA for three years straight, you should have to sell the team.

[Big Cat]

I think that if. If they're planning on doing this tournament, they're going to have all the lottery picks play against each other, and then the winner of that then gets the first pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What is to stop a team that's going to be like, you know, bottom half the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

From tanking to get to the lottery and then dominating that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not well thought out.

[Big Cat]

I don't think that's going to work at all. I think this is actually one of the worst ide had.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What. No, what they should do. It. It feels pretty simple. Is that it should be like after March or whatever. Pick a random date and be like, losing does. No. No longer helps you. You know what I mean? Like, like the. The losses do not add to your right to your lottery balls at this point. Like, there's certain arbitrary date and be like, guess what? It's set. So I. Obviously that would just move tanking up maybe a little bit like earlier in the year. But yeah, it does suck right now that it seems like half the league is gonna. Or not half the league. But there's a quality. Like seven or eight teams are like, we're just not even. Jaren Jackson has knee surgery.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're trade to the Jazz.

[Big Cat]

There's certain teams that are. That are ethically tanking.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That are just honestly bad at playing basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Not because they're. They're manipulating their roster in any weird way. Those teams, I feel like they get. Absolutely. There's only one way that you can really establish, like a true turnaround in the NBA, and that's to either trade for a superstar, somehow have one fall into your lap. It would be to be one of the, like, handful of five destinations that a top tier free agent would want to go to to build a franchise or just luck out in the draft lottery. And it feels like this would be a really easy way for that to all kind of backfire and have like, average teams now tank just to get into the lottery, then beat people's asses to get the number one overall pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Adam Silver did say that he would also consider getting rid of the draft and making all rookies free agents. That would be fascinating.

[Big Cat]

That is like Florio's wet dream, right? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, Florio has been on this. He's been. He's been spouting this for a long time that every college kid coming into the NBA or the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Should be a free agent. And then teams can allocate what they like. Guys can come and be like, hey, I want to play for a winner. I'm gonna take less money because of the cap.

[Hank]

But they can circumvent the cap.

[PFT Commenter]

How?

[Big Cat]

Trees, Trees, Trees. Tree companies.

[PFT Commenter]

I forgot about the trees.

[Hank]

And then shoe deals.

[PFT Commenter]

Shoe deals.

[Big Cat]

If that tree money doesn't come through, then you can just find a judge in Alabama and lets you go back to school.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. Or a judge in Alabama that won't let you go back to school.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Judge in Mississippi, they'll let you go back to school. A judge in Alabama that won't let you go to school.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's a good point, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, it would be interesting to see how it worked out. I. I think it would make the league worse. This is like when everyone's like, we.

[Hank]

Should pay college players. Then Nil happened and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Now here we are having one of the best college basketball seasons we've had in a really long time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And football season.

[PFT Commenter]

Rock.

[Big Cat]

The playoff was awesome.

[Hank]

Never mind.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, there are some downsides. There's definitely some downsides strongly against that.

[Hank]

Like, I think n. It's.

[Big Cat]

But you think Nil's bad.

[Hank]

I think it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's reverse bootlicker, Hank. Let's go.

[Hank]

No, never mind.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no.

[Hank]

Greatest college football season ever. Greatest college basketball season ever. The star player of Kansas doesn't even play because it's like his agents don't want him to play so he can get drafted higher.

[Max]

That is not. That's because of drafting that. That has nothing to do with Nil.

[PFT Commenter]

And also, yeah, you can honestly argue.

[Max]

It would be worse if there was an Nil.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because they at least get paid now.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, there's a lot of guys who are playing really hard because they're making a lot of money now.

[Hank]

All right, I was wrong. Sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, it's okay. You want to talk with Sam Darnold again?

[Big Cat]

It is good to just be like.

[PFT Commenter]

Your voice is cracking.

[Big Cat]

You just use the term, you know, nowadays with Nil, and it just. It just covers like everything that you.

[PFT Commenter]

Don'T like about the sport. You're right. That there are definitely some. Some bad side effects. Nil. It. It. There are some. Some moments where, I mean, it's hard to root for your college team now because guys change non stop Nil. And basketball this year has like, it has been an incredible basketball season. But yeah, there's some downside to nil for sure. You're absolutely spot on. We're positive now we're friends.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what, Hank? I'd like for you maybe with Zach, I'd like for you to design counter programming for next year's barstool halftime show with Mincy. Do like your non woke barstool halftime show.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be cool.

[Big Cat]

The one With Mincy was too woke. It was like. It was hippie, hippie, dippy, drug use, that kind of.

[PFT Commenter]

What don't you.

[Hank]

I'm gonna be there.

[PFT Commenter]

What don't you like about it? Why are you gonna be there?

[Hank]

I'll be at the game, covering it.

[Big Cat]

The Super Bowl.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, we'll be back. No.

[Big Cat]

You want to bet? You make a bet.

[Jameis Winston]

Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, make a bet.

[Hank]

I bet you five bucks.

[Big Cat]

Okay, deal.

[PFT Commenter]

But, Hank, your point was correct, that NIL has some very big downsides.

[Hank]

Apparently not. Best college football season.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no.

[Hank]

It's actually wrong. You're right.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, no, no, no. This college basketball season has been incredible, but there have been some. Some. Some parts of NIL that are head scratchers and really annoying.

[Max]

You just use one example that didn't have anything to do with nil. That was the only thing that Players getting paid. No, you use the Kansas guy as an example, but that's.

[Hank]

Yeah, because he has an agent. I do think he's not playing because he has an agent.

[Big Cat]

I do think he's not playing because.

[Max]

He doesn't want to hurt his draft stock.

[Hank]

Who do you think is telling him to do that?

[Big Cat]

You don't think that these guys.

[Max]

But you don't think they've had. Yeah, they've had.

[Big Cat]

They weren't allowed to, but they're not really.

[PFT Commenter]

They were not allowed.

[Big Cat]

Not real agents, but they had guys that were telling them what they were going to do.

[PFT Commenter]

But.

[Hank]

Okay, yeah, but like, you're hype.

[Big Cat]

Like you're saying, here's why that sucks.

[Hank]

He has an actual agent.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

And it's agent who is looking out for his best interest to make money in the NBA is like, don't play.

[Big Cat]

Here's why I think that's not just.

[Hank]

Him independently being like, I shouldn't play.

[Big Cat]

Here's why I think that sucks right now is because the way that NIL is set up, you. You're relying on a bunch of donations from like, local business guys, famous boosters, alumni that are well off of the school that are going to try to pay to get you the best rosters possible. The second they start paying millions of dollars, we're talking like millions dollars for a quarterback, millions of dollars for a star, star basketball player. And those guys just take the money and don't pay, don't play, then that money's going to dry up for nil. So, like, that does affect everybody and it sucks. And. But it's not like guys weren't. They didn't have agents that they would talk to beforehand and they would sometimes. Like, we had guys sitting at bowl games because of college, because of the draft stock.

[PFT Commenter]

Covid was. Yeah, there were guys sitting out.

[Max]

Michael Parsons sat out the full year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Derek Stingley, didn't he sit out?

[Big Cat]

He might have. Yeah. I know Parsons did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Either way, back to the NBA. I just love that going into the All Star Weekend, it was just all negative talk. I feel like everyone was just tanking. All Star Weekend sucks. You just got to get through February, get to the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

We had the. The what if it was a black versus white game debate.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Nick Wright threw that out there.

[Jameis Winston]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

We've had that. Yeah. Who get. Who gets Steph Curry? Because if we can get him for the third quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I think if we just got. I don't know if we had him for the third quarter. I like our odds.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Were there. Were there American guys playing on the. On the world team too, today? Were there memes or the rosters? Somebody. Somebody was. Cat's from New Jersey. Yeah, he's been on the. Yeah, he plays on. He plays international. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, listen, it was actually better than I thought it would be. This, like, this one, there was guys trying and there were moments where I was like, okay, this is actually a. Somewhat of a fix. But yeah, to your point, pfd, like we. I'm done ever caring about the all. The only All Star game that still is cool or holds any relevance is the baseball All Star Game because you can still throw 99 and still try to hit a dong off someone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And even that we had the controversy last year.

[Big Cat]

Half the team left and we had the swing off.

[PFT Commenter]

And we had the swing off. Remember, everyone was mad because, like, Aaron Judge was gone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, yeah, they're not gonna care about.

[Big Cat]

All Stars All Star games. Their exhibitions are supposed to be fun. Kind of like that four nations thing that we had last year. Who exactly knows who won that? You're not supposed to remember who won these things. It's just it. It's something that will be on your TV to entertain you on a day in which there should not normally be sports on tv.

[Jameis Winston]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

So just be glad that you get to see a hoop and a ball and then some guys that you recognize from other games and be like, oh, okay, this is a sport. Yeah, I get to watch it, maybe even bet on it.

[PFT Commenter]

The other. The only other NBA story I had was Chris Paul retired when we were on vacation. Probably the Worst retirement tour ever. Because he got cut from the Clippers and then his rights sent to Toronto and he's like, I think I'm just done. I read another long. I had a. I had a flight today. So I was. I was doing some reading. No big deal. Not to brag, but basically what went wrong? And it just was an entire article about Chris Paul just being the most annoying guy in the world to be around because he was. He was brought in as a, you know, as a reserve player. And he just tried to coach everyone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And do team meetings after the first game of the season when they lost and, and telling guys that, you know, they're not trying switching defensive adjustments and all this stuff. I kind of understand why the Clippers are like, hey, we can't do this anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they were, they were like, Chris Paul has just become the coaches. Right, guys, let's all listen. Like, he was a. He was a narc. They never really trusted him.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it was the other way that.

[Big Cat]

Chris Paul was a narc.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but he was. No, he was going. He was going against the coaches.

[Big Cat]

But he was telling. He was trying to coach himself.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he was co. He was saying like, the coaches are wrong, trying to coach the players.

[Big Cat]

And then.

[PFT Commenter]

And the coaches were like, hey, we brought you in to just like be a reserve guy. Be like a good go with the flow. He was trying to hold like he. The one of the stories was they lost after the first. They got blown out in the first game of the season. And Chris Paul, they all get back to the locker room and Chris Paul wants to have like a discussion with the team about it. And everyone's like, no, dude, we don't want to do that. And then there was another one where it's like he's trying to get guys to work out or like telling guys how to play. Yeah, he just seems. I think it's more credit. I guess it would be credit to Chris Paul for having such a long career because he only knows one speed and that's to just be an insane competitive psycho all the time. And they brought him in being like, hey, can you just be a chill guy for your last year? And he couldn't do it.

[Big Cat]

I don't think anybody that said that much success would. Most people would not be good at accepting that role.

[PFT Commenter]

But. But there are guys like. So the story goes too that afterwards they had a three way FaceTime. It's him, Blake Griffin and what's the. What's the tall guy's name from those teams? DeAndre. Jordan and they. So like they had maybe had a. Not. They had a little icy relationship but as thawed recently, the three of them and they all were kind of having a laugh because they all got screwed over by the Clippers at some point and just laughing about it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it just like, like Blake Griffin or DeAndre Jordan, like he, they. They are able to play maybe not all like a starter minutes and be a positive influence to the team. Chris Paul can't. Like he just has to be Chris Paul.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At all times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean he just didn't. I don't. I don't know. I need to read this article and figure out about what he did and didn't do because it seems to me like if you're getting Chris Paul on your team, you. There's enough body of evidence to know what Chris Paul is going to be. Right. Like, it's not like this is something that just crept up.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

While he was on the Clippers, they.

[PFT Commenter]

Thought they had a plan.

[Big Cat]

He's been bad before and a bad fit on other teams recently.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

And they're like, this can work with us because of a reason, because it's his last year.

[PFT Commenter]

We want to send him off, you know, in a nice way and all that stuff. But yeah, it's. It just was never going to work. I think. I think one of the quotes was just like, he, when he was a good player, he's a pain in the ass. Now that he's not a good player, he's still a pain in the ass. You can't have that.

[Big Cat]

Right. Because I haven't seen much from Chris Paul that's showed any mellowing out over the last years.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. Correct.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Inside the ugly Chris Paul LA Clippers divorce. That was from Ramona Shelburne. It was. It was. It was extensive. Extensive. I just love reading any of these stories after the fallout.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And everyone being like, yeah, we saw this coming. I mean, I guess he was. This was from an executive. He was a pain in the ass when he was a great player and now he's not a great player.

[Big Cat]

I guess he was a good teammate when he was on Spurs. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think you didn't hear that much about him when he was in San Antonio.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think it's more just. It's hard to.

[Jameis Winston]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He wants to be very involved when. And it's hard if you're. It's a. The. The Clippers were a team with a lot of veterans who didn't need a Chris Paul telling like the spurs are young team. So probably worked better.

[Big Cat]

So embrace debate. Is he on. Is he on the Mount Rushmore of the greatest of all time to not get a ring?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he's one of the greatest point guards of all time. That's for sure. So I don't know. Yeah, he might be.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[Hank]

Basketball. Probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he probably is. I'm trying to think of who else?

[Big Cat]

Isaiah.

[PFT Commenter]

Isaiah. Which Isaiah?

[Big Cat]

No, you know what? Kd. Kd, kd.

[PFT Commenter]

Which Isaiah were you talking about?

[Big Cat]

I was about to refer to Isaiah. Thomas, but then I realized that he did win a ring.

[Jameis Winston]

Two of them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I. I had a mixed up with the dream team.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

Not on the dream team.

[PFT Commenter]

Wasn't on the dream team. Listen, we're coming back from vacation.

[Big Cat]

Back from vacation.

[PFT Commenter]

Loan Charles Barkley, John Stockton, AI. Patrick Ewing. Yeah. Steve Nash. He's definitely in that category.

[Big Cat]

Chris Paul.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's definitely up there with them. Great player, great point guard. We'll maybe have Versilo on to do a full breakdown of how good Chris Paul was. He was 21 years in the NBA is crazy.

[Big Cat]

That is a very long time.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

I want to talk Olympics.

[PFT Commenter]

We can talk Olympics.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to talk about Olympics yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, we do have to talk about. We will talk about Olympics and those cheating from Canada.

[Big Cat]

We will talk about the Olympics. I want to talk about the Olympics.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Would you go ahead?

[Big Cat]

Curling.

[PFT Commenter]

Curling. Major drama.

[Big Cat]

I didn't see it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I didn't see it. I, who's to say?

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so here's.

[Big Cat]

I saw the replay. It seems unclear.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I did, I did some legwork again. Like I said, I had, I had a long flight today. So I was prepping for the show. I got our expert. I got a report from our expert. All business, Pete, on the curling controversy. So I'm going to explain it to you how he explained it to me, and I think it actually makes sense. So in curling, the first thing you got to know is it's a gentleman's sport in that you don't. There are no, like, umpires. There are no refs. There's no umpires. There are guys that are there to help, like, settle disputes and. And measure the rocks and all that shit, but there's no official ref.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It's, like community organized.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So you call your own fouls. You're supposed to. You're not supposed to call fouls on the other team. You're supposed to call your own fouls. All that stuff. Now, the hog line, I believe, is that green line.

[Big Cat]

That's the hog line.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the hog line. You are not allowed to touch the stone past the hog line. And this is something I didn't realize that Pete told me. That's very interesting, the whole. You're not allowed to touch. You're not supposed to touch the stone except for the holder piece. You're not supposed to touch the granite.

[Hank]

There's a handle.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the handle. Thank you, Hank. The handle. There's a sensor on the handle. So if you're holding this, the. The. The handle past the hog line, there will be a sensor that goes off. That's why he's touching the granite, because there's no sensor on the granite. And apparently everyone knew that Canada was cheating. Sweden had their own broadcast cameras basically set up on the hogline to catch them in the act. Then they called him out on it. And also, you're not supposed to swear. That was the other thing I learned. You're not supposed to swear during curling. It's a gentleman. So, like, the fact that the Canadian guy said fuck off was disgusting. Like, kids are watching.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I'm looking at this replay that they brought up. Yep. You zoomed in on it. Yeah. I mean, they cheat.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's to say they cheat?

[Big Cat]

And my. My understanding is that there's no actual cheating in the sport because there's no rules in the sport.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but there's. It's a gentleman's. It's same. Similar to golf. So they found you're supposed to call your own fouls.

[Big Cat]

They found a loophole, which is that if there's no actual refs, then people can cheat and get away with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. But now they look like absolute. And Canada cheats.

[Big Cat]

This is a bad look for Canada.

[PFT Commenter]

Big time.

[Big Cat]

Just Canada as As a nation, I thought that they would be better than this.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to make sure I didn't miss anything. But, yeah, it's. It's good. It's controversy. It's good. Listen, it's good for the sport.

[Big Cat]

The U.S. is good now, right at curling.

[PFT Commenter]

So the U.S. we need to get behind Team USA because that was the other thing I got from Pete. I asked him how we're doing. He said, the women's team has never won a medal, and they're actually playing really well. And the men's team was the ninth out of 10th team to qualify, and they're also playing really well. So he was like, it's tremendous. Team pride and country pride. I said, I don't root for losers. I want to win. He said, well, you have a national sports podcast. You need to get behind Team usa. Consider me right at this moment, officially behind Team USA and curling.

[Big Cat]

Why don't we just cheat harder than candidates does?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to make sure that I don't. I didn't miss any. He sent me way too much. He. And he said at the beginning, it's. It's really boring. So he. He. Pete's official call is for Canada to clean it up.

[Big Cat]

They need to clean up the cheating.

[PFT Commenter]

They need to clean it up. Just clean it up. Tighten up the.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, that's a fair call.

[Big Cat]

Why don't they just do fights like it's. It's hockey adjacent. You're on the ice.

[Jameis Winston]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Just settle it like men on the. Is it a curling arena? On the lanes?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the sheet of ice or something. I think I'm playing curling with Pete on.

[Big Cat]

Settle it on the lanes like a man. Yeah. They should just punch him in the face. He won't do it again. Just take that finger, stick it up his ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Even muttering the F word to yourself would be considered a faux pas. Curling. I just don't like the Canada sheets, I guess Canada hasn't won a gold in, like, 10 years, too, and this is supposed to be their sport, so they're getting frustrated.

[Big Cat]

It is a bad look for Canada as a whole, the reputation that we have.

[PFT Commenter]

And it matters because what he's doing when he. When he puts his finger on the granite is he's. He's correcting his release. You know what I mean? He's releasing the stone, and then he's fixing it a little bit with the. With the extra finger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I feel like we've had this controversy before in curling. Like, there There have been teams that have been accused of keeping the finger on the stone for too long. But it does seem like this was a setup by Sweden because they knew.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, they did advanced scouting of Canada and they knew where to. Where to put all the cameras. It's kind of like they could have told them beforehand. We know that you're going to do it. Don't do it. But they almost would rather catch them.

[PFT Commenter]

Apparently. Like, apparently Great Britain also had cameras set up. They all knew. So Canada cheats. And that's our curling minute. Do we have any other Olympic stuff? I saw the guy going backwards down the.

[Big Cat]

That was sick.

[PFT Commenter]

That was so sick. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I just assumed that's how all those, like, freestyle mogul races finish. You should have to go backwards at the end.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm ready for the hockey. I'm ready for the hockey, like, meaningful hockey games to happen. We.

[Jameis Winston]

We.

[PFT Commenter]

We won our first two games.

[Max]

Three.

[PFT Commenter]

Three games. Now we're in the. The bracket phase. I'm ready. I'm ready for Team Canada.

[Big Cat]

Austin. It's fun getting a root for Auston Matthews. Yeah, that's pretty cool. It's tough having to root against Tom Wilson. I'm gonna hate him.

[PFT Commenter]

It was funny watching Matthew Tkachuk say to Leon Draisaitle, always a bridesmaid. Also, Brady Tkachuk met Elmo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see that? He said it was a unique opportunity to meet Elmo. It is. I. I don't even understand how that. I don't understand what the context is of that.

[Big Cat]

They've already got their.

[PFT Commenter]

Why were they meeting Elmo?

[Big Cat]

Elmo and the. The Muppets, they show up around these things all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

They're just. They're just there. Yeah, Elmo's there.

[Big Cat]

Elmo's always around.

[PFT Commenter]

Brady Chuck called it a unique opportunity to meet Elmo.

[Big Cat]

Do we have a. A mascot for these Olympics? The official mascots for Olympics in Italy.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

They always crack me up. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just a big meatball.

[Big Cat]

Is it?

[PFT Commenter]

That would be funny if it was just like Otto, the orange meatball. What are you. Max, you gotta put on your.

[Big Cat]

Find me that.

[Max]

I feel like that was anti Italian discrimination by you not knowing that it was in Italy. How did you not know I knew.

[PFT Commenter]

It was in Italy? I just couldn't remember. What is it? Torino? No, Torino was the last one.

[Hank]

There's two cities. Oh, it's split.

[Big Cat]

Milan and. Where?

[PFT Commenter]

I haven't watched a lot of the Olympics. I'm waiting for the hockey to get good.

[Max]

The quad.

[Hank]

God, you See that us dominated today.

[Max]

This was the first one that I watched from start to finish.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But I want, I want the knockout phase. I'm ready for the knockout phase because it wasn't the beginning of the hockey is like we're gonna. We're gonna be in the knockout.

[Big Cat]

That's what I like about it, about the curling is the curling. It seems like it lasts from the very start to the very end of the Olympics. It's like it is always kind of on in the back.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's. It's like they. There's 10 teams and everyone plays each other and the worst. And then, then there's a final four. Yeah. On starting on Thursday.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we do have an update to that biathlete that apologized to his girlfriend for cheating on her.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

She said that she was not impressed and is not taking back.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for her. Yeah. Girl power.

[Big Cat]

Should have been a gold. She takes him back.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're playing Sweden or Latvia. That's our next, our next game on Wednesday.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna crush.

[PFT Commenter]

And then, and then if we get to the finals, it's Saturday morning or Sunday morning at 8am Kind of love that. Oh, love sports. Sunday mornings at 8am it's good.

[Big Cat]

It's real good.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially in foreign soil.

[Big Cat]

International.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

Pumped. It has to be U. S. Canada.

[PFT Commenter]

It has to be this.

[Big Cat]

If the Olympics, if they were anything like, you know, our, our fancy American sports leagues or like FIFA, they would rig it to make sure that U.S. and Canada played no matter what. I hope they do the right thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd agree.

[Hank]

Did you guys hear the crazy story.

[PFT Commenter]

From the Olympic village having sex again?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is a. Listen, there's a few different rites of passage that you have every single Olympic games. One is like a reporter complaining about their hotel room and like the, the faucet was just installed and it just shoots out brown water. And I'm gonna complain. Yeah, there's wolves walking down the hallway. There's usually. There's actually usually a curling controversy or an ice controversy like we've had this year. And then there's sex talk with condoms.

[PFT Commenter]

And then there's always some person being like, why is this a story every time? And there really is no reason other than the fact that it's a bunch of super athletic early 20 year olds living in a village. It's college. It's college with only hot bodies.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They're going to.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's asu.

[Big Cat]

They're definitely going.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all it is. It's asu so that's what's happening in. In Milan right now.

[Big Cat]

So everyone's just mogging each other.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, who are these two mascots here?

[Max]

That would be Milo and Tina.

[Big Cat]

Milo and Tina.

[PFT Commenter]

What are they? Otters?

[Jameis Winston]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

What the fuck are they?

[Max]

Milan and Cortina, some of.

[Big Cat]

I think that's where it's taking place.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're climate changing weasels.

[Big Cat]

Are they. Are they related?

[PFT Commenter]

Shame on you, Max. Climate changing. We. Maybe a ferret. Ferret climate. If they're climate changing weasels, they get hot and cold. It should have been a meatball.

[Max]

Little Italian flags.

[PFT Commenter]

Should have been.

[Big Cat]

I need to know more about the lore. But behind these two are they brother, sister.

[PFT Commenter]

We're third.

[Big Cat]

Why do they look different?

[PFT Commenter]

Poland's mascot is a pierogi. That's.

[Max]

They are brother and sister.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good, good.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

How come they look different? Different dad, different mom.

[Max]

Older sister Tina represents the Olympic Winter Games. Younger brother Milo represents the Paralympics and has a limb difference.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, so the younger one leg and.

[Max]

Uses his tail to. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for the parallel.

[Max]

This is from NBC.com.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so they're not laughing at him.

[Big Cat]

Right now, but the younger one is an amputee.

[PFT Commenter]

He's lost a leg.

[Max]

His motto is obstacles are trampolines.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

While the sister lives by the words dream big.

[PFT Commenter]

That seems more dangerous for a Paralympic. Right? Of all the obstacles were trampolines.

[Big Cat]

Do we know how he lost his leg? Is this a landmine?

[PFT Commenter]

Getting double bounce with only one leg?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On a trampoline. That can't be fun.

[Big Cat]

That could be how he lost a leg too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. By the way, the metal update. Norway's kicking everyone's ass. I don't care about the. The silver and gold bronze. I just want the gold. We're in third right now. Canada has one gold medal. Disgusting. That's sad. Yeah, really sad. Really sad. Milo and Tina. Tina could get it. Yeah, I said it. What are they technically? Stoats.

[Max]

A weasel like creature native to the Italian Alps.

[PFT Commenter]

They're cute as. I still do. They're. They're cute as. All right. Any other Olympic stuff? I. I still have yet to watch, like, a significant portion of the Olympics. I'm gonna do it this week.

[Max]

No, Their coach changed color.

[Jameis Winston]

Oh.

[Max]

In the summer, they are brown. And then in the winter they change to white. One way that stoats adapt to their climate. This is a. This is a fun article.

[Big Cat]

How come we celebrate Stokes, but then we. We lock Rachel Dolezal up in prison?

[Max]

Shout out to NBC.

[PFT Commenter]

Fun article. What? Hank's got a take. Hank's brewing on a take, and I.

[Hank]

Want to hear it.

[Big Cat]

Let it rip really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Go. I want it so bad right now.

[Big Cat]

You don't like. You don't like other countries.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on now.

[Hank]

This is something. This is a drunk. This is a drunk. Take that.

[Jameis Winston]

Let's go.

[Hank]

But the. The conversation. I think we did Summer Olympics. When we talk about Olympic sports, you can meddle in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Oh, I like this.

[Hank]

The skeleton.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Is a joke.

[Max]

Well, no, I think that's actually, like, proven fact that the average amount of person to take. They have three years experience.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I also think that the skeleton is terrifying.

[Max]

I also saw one tweet that said that. I have no idea if that's actually true. It's a reply tweet to someone being like, what?

[PFT Commenter]

Should I maybe get a skeleton or a loser on here to tell us we're so wrong?

[Hank]

How do you even train?

[PFT Commenter]

That's my. That is my biggest gripe with some of these sports. When you're watching Michael Phelps swim or Usain Bolt run, you're like, that is the greatest runner or swimmer of all time. Right. Like, he's better than everyone. When I watched the best loser win by a fraction of a sec second, I'm like, well, that guy just decided to do luge. 99.9% of the world just doesn't do loose.

[Big Cat]

It's like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would we do loose?

[Big Cat]

That dude's got a great helmet and a very fast suit, and he's like a jockey. Weighs the exact right amount and then he trains occasionally. It doesn't feel like it requires that much skill, but it does seem scary as fuck.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the only skill it requires is having a parent who's who who's hell bent on getting their kid in the Olympics and they just throw them on a luge when they're kids.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I don't know how you. I've never even been around a loosh. No, I. I haven't seen a loose track. Like, how do you get into the loosh? How do you get into the skeleton? Bobsled seems like a good time because that's just you and the boys just, like going down a hill.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. Also one of the greatest movies of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Bobsled is legit, so maybe that's the thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Luge has to get a, like, sick movie.

[Hank]

The skeleton. Is there a difference?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Luge's feet first, skeletons head first. But same thing.

[Big Cat]

Is it a thing that there's actually partners.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not right.

[Big Cat]

There's partner luge.

[Max]

I have no idea. I feel like it's all about your. Your equipment.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Like, that's not.

[Max]

And your ghetto.

[PFT Commenter]

We make jokes.

[Hank]

It's. Well, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we make jokes about Sprint.

[Hank]

It's just running fast to start. I mean, cool runnings proved it, right. Like, we've got a bunch of sprinters and almost won the whole thing.

[PFT Commenter]

We make jokes about, like, you know, LeBron.

[Max]

I think that that's true. I don'. They almost won the whole feel the.

[Big Cat]

Feel the rhyme. If they didn't crash, they had a better bob.

[Hank]

If they had a better bob's head, they were. They were breaking records.

[Big Cat]

But here's a. Here's a stone cold fact.

[Hank]

D. Bannock was flying.

[Big Cat]

If the University of Georgia wanted to correct. They could take their. Their guys that love to break the laws on the roads, put them on a bobsled track and become a dynasty.

[PFT Commenter]

Devon A. Chain would be the best loser of all time. Like, give me a. Not a tall guy who's super fast.

[Big Cat]

Tyreek Hill. Brandon Ayuk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

I think I also just realized all of our knowledge of this is based on cool runnings.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Max]

Like I was thinking. I. I was trying to explain it to Hank and we both were just saying that we were both going back to cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't put weights in the bobsleigh. Yeah, okay. Can't do that. Otherwise they'll bust up John Candy Webster.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna need you to bring up a video of doubles luge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Those guys just laying on double blues is wild. That is wild.

[Big Cat]

You talk about a wild sport.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that double lose.

[Big Cat]

I have to think that's got to be pretty hard.

[Max]

That's got to be harder than normal luge, at least, like the balance of the guy on top.

[PFT Commenter]

But I watched it, and I don't even understand. I actually did watch. I can't remember. I think it was women's luge. And they were all. They were all within like, US 0.05 seconds of each other. It's like I don't even understand how, like, oh, she took that turn wrong. No, she didn't. She went fine down the turn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Bobsled looks awesome to me.

[PFT Commenter]

That guy's got his face in his ass.

[Max]

I'm pretty sure that was AI.

[Big Cat]

Is there. Is there women's doubles lose?

[PFT Commenter]

There's gotta be.

[Big Cat]

I feel like it'd be faster if the guy on top was face down.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they should go 69. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They should 69 the double loose. For sure. They don't have women's double luge.

[Max]

That seems like a. I'm not seeing women's.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of fucked up big time. Miss.

[Max]

Yeah, I'm also searching Twitter, which is. I have a bad tendency to do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's been good Olympic talk. I feel like we've gotten a lot of women's double luge. Yeah, there's women's double loose. Italy one.

[Big Cat]

Good, good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's. All the European countries all win these because I feel like that's, like, their third biggest sport. Like, we have. We have football, we have basketball, we have baseball, they have soccer. Then like, some ancient sport where they hit each other with a stick and then loose.

[Big Cat]

I feel like the basketball should be a Winter Olympic sport.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't hate that take.

[Max]

I don't hate at all.

[Big Cat]

It should.

[PFT Commenter]

Just to get us another.

[Big Cat]

It should give us something to care about during the Winter Olympics, because right now we got hockey, and that's pretty much it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you know what?

[PFT Commenter]

Long jump as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

You can do long jump in the snow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Max]

Gymnastics is also inside. That could be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Why is fencing a summer Olympic sport?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's good Olympic talk.

[Big Cat]

Good Olympic talk.

[PFT Commenter]

Good Olympic talk. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna watch some Olympics this week. I'm gonna really get into it. I think I'm gonna become a big curling. And when I say that I'm gonna watch, I'm gonna. If I remember to turn it on, I will.

[Max]

Curling is tough. I started to watch it this morning.

[PFT Commenter]

It's bocce without the Italians. Without a fat Italians having, like, busting each other's balls. That's really what it needs.

[Max]

Bocce would be fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Just some, like, old Italian guys just, you know, having the same bitter argument they've had every single week for 40 years straight.

[Max]

Bocce should absolutely be in the summer. Now that's a summer Olympics. That's a definition of a summer sport.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

So curling, to me, seems like it's a. It's a sport that's normally played with a beer in your hand, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe.

[Max]

No bocce you're thinking about.

[Big Cat]

No, but I know. I know for a fact bocce, but it seems like curling would be the indoor equivalent.

[Hank]

How would you hold the broom?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you gotta.

[Big Cat]

There's definitely some guys that. That can hold the broom and the beer. Or maybe you put your beer down While you do it.

[PFT Commenter]

What if we did. What if we did an Olympics, but it was all beer games.

[Jameis Winston]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

And then you have, like, different teams competing against.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

What would you call it?

[PFT Commenter]

Beer Olympics. Get like, Bert and Shane to come. Be sick. Be so sick.

[Big Cat]

I'm down.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Any other national sports? Should we talk some? College basketball was actually not the best Saturday. Although Texas Tech awesome win against Arizona. I. I'll just say this. I. I made. Oh, I have two. Two topics I want to talk about, but I did make some future bets. I tweeted it out when I made them, but I bet Florida 19 1. UConn 15 to 1 and the Badgers at 150 to 1 because the Badgers keep slaying Giants and have had quite the week. And Max is the biggest Badger fan out there, which is great.

[Big Cat]

Max's.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, because Villanova beat Wisconsin in December. We have every time good wins. So, like, it's better for the better.

[Max]

Wisconsin does.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like I was told that Maxwell texted me.

[Big Cat]

I was told. I was told Villanova solid in. In a. Locked to get in.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Badgers are solid in now.

[Max]

Yeah, we're. I think we're both at an eight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Eight seed right now, which is still. Is that solid in.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it was awesome.

[Jameis Winston]

That was.

[Max]

Got 20 wins.

[PFT Commenter]

Kicking the. Out of Michigan State was very, very fun. The other one was that foul in the Providence St. John's game. I. Providence is. I. They got to get rid of Kim English because it feels like. I love. I love Providence Twitter, but it feels like Providence Twitter and this is not their fault because it's the fans. But Providence is a program has become way more about getting revenge than actually winning basketball games. Like, can't wait for Ed Cooley to come back to the dunk. Can't wait for Bryce Hopkins to come back to the dunk. And they just haven't won basketball games. Again, that's Kim English's fault. But we gotta. We gotta get back to winning basketball games.

[Big Cat]

But when they. When they lose, it's like they've got the real game coming up, dude. It's like, how are we going to get revenge for this loss?

[PFT Commenter]

That was. That actually was a crazy file because it wasn't. It was bad. The picture is. Is so much worse for people who didn't see it.

[Big Cat]

The picture of.

[PFT Commenter]

Of bright. Of Powell taking down Bryce Hopkins by the face. And then they just. They had a brawl and they let Powell just while the rest were figuring out, they ejected him. And then he just stayed out on the court for, like, 20 minutes, whooping up the crowd. So that was an interesting move.

[Big Cat]

And listen, if you have that picture, if you have that haircut and you commit that foul, just understand it's going to look a million times.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

You're not going to get the benefit of any doubt, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Ready? Nil. Back to your take. Good take. This was Duncan Powell, who is on Providence for the first. This is his first year playing for Providence. I think he's played for three more. Three other schools seeking vengeance because Bryce Hopkins transferred from Providence to St. John's and he's on his second school or another school, so they never played together, but he's getting revenge. Makes no sense.

[Big Cat]

It was a double reverse revenge game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was a hell of a foul.

[Big Cat]

Hell of a foul.

[PFT Commenter]

Hell of a foul.

[Big Cat]

And then I'm Tang.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerome Tang. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

See ya.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't really understand the with cause part. It feels like it's gonna be. So, wait, Duncan Powell, that was. That was his. This is his fourth team that he's playing on, so he's gotta. He's gotta make sure that for the Friars, he.

[Big Cat]

He. You know, this time it's personal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This time it's personal. He's been on. He's been on profit.

[Big Cat]

He's bought in for.

[PFT Commenter]

For over four months. And that was. That's Bryce Hopkins, third team.

[Big Cat]

This dude's bought in.

[PFT Commenter]

Classic rivalry.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Fourth team guy versus third team guy. They never played together. The. Yeah. Jerome Tang. The with cause part is going to be interesting to see what happens with cause.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like they were saying, hey, Jerome, you might want to. You might want to resign soon.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then he was like, no, I don't think that I will. And they said, okay, well, we have four cause. And then Tang was like, I don't believe that you do. And then they said, okay, we'll call your bluff. And now it's going to go to court.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that'll be fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is gonna be.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be a lot of rumors that float around out there.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. It could just be as simple as him trashing all the players the other night in the press conference.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then we also, the language is anything that brings public disrepute, embarrassment, or ridicule to Kansas State.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which I guess could be. How many in conference wins do they have right now?

[PFT Commenter]

They're not very good.

[Big Cat]

One. Yeah. One Ain't that. That brings ridicule to Kansas State.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they. We have the, like, Ultimate. The reason why this college basketball season is good. It's two parts. One is that there's like 10 teams that you could make the argument are national title worthy teams. Maybe not ten, but eight, let's call it. And the other part is just some of these teams are just picking off each other left and right in the funniest way. It's like Iowa State just. Kansas beats Arizona on big Monday, which was an awesome game. Iowa State then loses to TCU on Tuesday. Then they play each other in. Iowa State kicks the shit out of Kansas. Big 12 has been madness. Arizona's now lost two in a row after starting the season undefeated. It's fun. I'm having fun. What'd you learn about the bubble there, Max?

[Max]

You just did a little right now, according to espn, Wisconsin is a should be in.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, we have. Two of you could make the argument.

[Max]

Two of the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Two of the best wins. We've beaten three top 10 teams, two of them on the road. Michigan's only loss. And then Villanova.

[Max]

Villanova lock accordingly.

[Hank]

Lock.

[Max]

I'm not saying that, but down, huh? Yeah. Only three teams are. Three teams are locks. Zero teams are. Should be in. Seton hall has work to do and that's it.

[PFT Commenter]

Poor Pug, I hope.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, really poor Pug.

[Max]

They started off so hot. They started off so hot.

[Big Cat]

Guys, I was so bummed out there was no football today.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw Pug's tweet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I saw that too. And it made me sad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, really sad. Yeah. Although it's good to have a little break.

[Big Cat]

It is. It's good.

[PFT Commenter]

If you told me next week was week one, I'd be in, but I needed one weekend.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Absence makes the heart grow fond. Where's Miami? Of Ohio. Where are they ranked right now?

[PFT Commenter]

They are 23rd, I believe. They're in the weird spot of being a Mac team where I. They should be okay, but it's going to be bullshit because if they trip up and don't win the conference tournament, it's just going to be bullshit. I'm already pre mad about it. They're fun team. I'm pretty mad about it.

[Big Cat]

Big Ben won't let that happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Big Ben turns out he might not be the best guy.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't. I don't want to hear that.

[PFT Commenter]

Why. Why was that such a story other than, I mean, jerk Joey Porter, he. He said something that we all know and it doesn't. And then it just got the message. Got weirdly changed to like, Big Ben wasn't good Big Ben was really good.

[Big Cat]

Big Ben was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Really good at football.

[Big Cat]

Like until the last, I'd say two, three seasons. Big Ben, he was incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

So much better of a football player than human being. And we all knew that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And nothing changed. Yeah, I know there. A lot of people are doing the. Big Ben got carried to a Super Bowl. His first Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure his.

[Big Cat]

That's true. His first Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. No, but I'm. I'm pretty sure he balled out in the games before the actual Super Bowl. Yes. But I'm pretty sure the games before that he balled out pretty.

[Big Cat]

Like he was pretty damn good game against the Seahawks, he did not play well and he had that. But he did have that game saving tackle against the Colts. Remember that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he went. I mean he went seven touchdowns, one interception in the three games leading up to the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That tackle that he had.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

After that goal line fumble that got. That was everything for the Steelers.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the championship game, he's 21 for 29, 275 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And the, the second Super bowl against the Cardinals. Incredible game. That was one of the best games ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. So Big Ben though, not a good guy.

[Big Cat]

So Big Ben, we do need to have you stand up for Miami of Ohio just in case things go off the rails. We need Big Ben. Stand back. Stand by Big Ben.

[PFT Commenter]

Definitely. So he went to this bull riding thing in Pittsburgh this weekend. He definitely went to it just to do a little pulse check. Be like, people still love me, right? And they do in Pittsburgh.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. And just like to talk.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think it's a problem.

[Big Cat]

He probably did it just to talk to the other Cowboys and be like, so what, what injuries do you have? Yeah, Yeah, I had that. Yeah, I had that. Yeah, I had that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it seems pretty easy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I had that. He just wanted to swap war stories.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do we have any other stories before we do who's back the week and then we'll get to James. Oh, congrats, Hank, on the four aces.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that your who's back of the week shit? All right, so then congrats, Hank, on us not being mad about the Australia game because it might be on a Wednesday and we're down for that. So they might go Wednesday, Thursday to start the NFL season.

[Max]

If it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, college Saturday, NFL Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like that would be awesome. I don't think they're gonna do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

[Max]

Why not?

[Big Cat]

I Don't know.

[Max]

Why wouldn't that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they would. They already do Thursday. Friday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's a little Wednesday?

[PFT Commenter]

I just think they'd swap the Friday to the Wednesday.

[Big Cat]

Wednesday Night football is Friday.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't. Friday isn't the best for ratings.

[Hank]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree. I would love it.

[Max]

Better than zero.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Start the season without the champs.

[PFT Commenter]

That would piss me off. Yeah.

[Max]

No, but they do Thursday. They. They can do Thursday in Australia.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. But then is that also bullshit that Wednesday is for the. Is for the Seahawks? Would you feel a little slighted?

[Max]

No, that'd be great. You get an extra day of rest.

[PFT Commenter]

For True week two, but in terms of like, circumstance of, you know, Wednesday Night Football now.

[Big Cat]

But no, here's the thing. If you. I feel a little slighted, I think with whichever teams. It's going to be the rams and the 49ers playing over in Australia. Right. In Melbourne. That game has to be on on Wednesday night. It has to because they're going to be playing it Thursday night Australia time. It'll be on Wednesday. And then the flight back for those two teams is 16 hours.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So they talked about they're going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Need to start the season with it.

[Big Cat]

They're going to need to give them plenty of rest. I don't think that they're going to put the Seahawks on Wednesday and then move them to one day later in Australia.

[PFT Commenter]

I think this is guaranteed. Yes. So then that's bullshit for the Seahawks. They don't open the season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That would be bullshit. I think this all. I could be proven very wrong, but I think the Bears are gonna.

[Big Cat]

I think they're gonna put the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

Seahawks because now if The Rams and 49ers are playing in Australia, it would make sense it was Ram Seahawks. But we're on the Seahawks schedule in Seattle, so I think they're gonna do.

[Big Cat]

That Cowboys maybe just get ready for.

[PFT Commenter]

All the prime time games, which I do not want. Yeah. Look up the. They love. They love. I know that patients are on their schedule as well.

[Big Cat]

Super bowl rematch.

[PFT Commenter]

Super bowl rematch. You'd have to. We'd have to ask you about Sam Darnold.

[Big Cat]

I'm betting the Patriots because you guys ran out that fourth quarter from. From Drake May was unreal. Just starting to heat up.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, well, no Chiefs because my home's not going to be back. So yeah, it's. I think it's be the Bears.

[Big Cat]

So it could be the Cowboys, the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think they'll do super bowl rematch because super bowl wasn't like, great. The Bears wasn't like an instant classic.

[Big Cat]

Cowboys, Chargers, Bears. Those are, those are my three picks.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to pick one.

[Big Cat]

I'll go Cowboys. I'm gonna bet that they smash the Cowboys button.

[PFT Commenter]

They might Sunday Night Football.

[Big Cat]

That's true. They love doing Cowboys, Giants, Sunday Night Football.

[Jameis Winston]

They love.

[Big Cat]

They love that shit.

[PFT Commenter]

They love that. Here we are talking about, talking about football. Feels good. Okay, who's back of the week? Let's do who's back of the week, Then we'll get to Jameis. Good. Good Olympics talk. Maybe we'll come. How about everyone, for Wednesday's show, let's all come with a fact on a certain sport specific sport from the Winter Olympics.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what I'm saying? But we'll divide it on the group text. So. So there's no but let's, let's all come with, with a maybe a little story about whatever sport you choose. So no double dipping. No double dipping. What are we doing? We're gonna do a little homework. Wednesday show, everyone come with a little something about a sport, a Winter Olympic sport. You pick one and you just dive in for a minute.

[Jameis Winston]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, don't have to do a lot.

[Max]

It has to be one that is, is currently still going.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Yeah, that's coming up for let's, let's say it's going to be on Wednesday or Thursday so that we can preview it.

[Jameis Winston]

Metal.

[Max]

Like a metal match.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We're going to need a schedule to, to figure this out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can handle that.

[PFT Commenter]

Homework assignment. Almost crushed.

[Jameis Winston]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

Just look at Jeff D. Lowe's Twitter. He's gotcha.

[Hank]

I put in a bunch of bets before I went to Florida and none of them have happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love when that happens.

[Hank]

Like, I was like, all right, I'll have some action.

[PFT Commenter]

I once did that when I had a, when I had a bookie, like 15 years ago, I put in a cricket game that was like a year away. What it. I thought I was, I thought I was betting it, like, overnight to wake up to it. Oh, this sucks. Okay, who's back? The week brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing, hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day Up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today, Hank. Who's back of the week?

[Hank]

Who's back of the week is Anthony Kim and the Four Aces.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't know he was on the Four Aces. Oh, Hanks.

[Big Cat]

He's impact free agent.

[Hank]

Yeah. Patrick Reed left very. Oh, this is tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Thanks. Getting choked up with emotions for his beloved got. Finally did it. I mean, honestly, this is one of the coolest stories in the history of sports.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't you take tomorrow off?

[Hank]

Patrick Reed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Left.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

Two weeks ago. Same time as like, right. Right after Brooks. He's not going back to the PGA Tour. He's trying to go DP Tour route.

[Jameis Winston]

I've.

[Hank]

This has been happening to me every day. The more I talk, my voice is.

[PFT Commenter]

When did you lose your voice?

[Hank]

On Thursday.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a long time ago.

[Hank]

Friday. I didn't talk much, and then I started to talk a little bit, and then I lost it. Same with yesterday, same with today.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, Nick. Should we slow clap for you?

[Hank]

This is Anthony Kim's first week as a four ace.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

He's replacing Patrick Reed. So it's Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed, and then the two Toms, the Tom Towers, Thomas Peters, Thomas Dietre. And Anthony Kim won. He beat John Rom Bryson. Shambo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

And he had to grind his way back to even playing on the live tour, right.

[Hank]

Yeah. He got kicked off basically for not performing well enough. And then they have their version of Q school where it's like, you know, 60 golfers, three guys. If you finish the top three, you get your card.

[Jameis Winston]

Right.

[Hank]

And he won or he came in third just to keep his card. So he was a very close, you know, a couple shots here, a couple shots there. He's not even on live. And then he won this event.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for him.

[Hank]

All time comeback story.

[Big Cat]

Very cool.

[PFT Commenter]

All time.

[Big Cat]

Huge for the four aces.

[PFT Commenter]

What. What is he coming back from?

[Hank]

Cocaine.

[Jameis Winston]

Okay.

[Hank]

And an Achilles and some interest.

[Big Cat]

Achilles. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But mostly and being retired for like.

[Hank]

10 years because of the Achilles injury.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, got it.

[Big Cat]

That's what an inspiration.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It is inspiring.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he.

[Hank]

He has, like, there's. There's. I read. I read an article on. On the way back about, you know, his pass and when he quit golf and why he stopped and his, like, substance abuse issues and getting sober. He had a daughter, and, you know, his daughter basically gave him a purpose in life and.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. Interest.

[Hank]

You know, he post.

[PFT Commenter]

So golf wasn't his purpose. His kid was.

[Hank]

Yeah. Well, he had a dad. Like, he had a tough childhood where his dad was, you know, kind of. Kind of he.

[PFT Commenter]

Kid over golf.

[Hank]

No. Having a kid made him want to golf more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, that's a great point, Hank. The kid made him want to focus on life to improve his golf game, to provide a better life for his own kid.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Hank]

Yeah. Very cool story.

[Big Cat]

Very cool story. And it's. It's interesting. People are asking, like, are the four Aces better without Patrick Reed?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I, I don't want the other guy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Dustin Johnson, or is he still on the aces?

[Hank]

Dustin Johnson's the captain, okay?

[PFT Commenter]

He's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

What are you talking about?

[Big Cat]

He's the ace of spades.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, there are five aces.

[Hank]

There's four.

[PFT Commenter]

Anthony Kim, Tom Powers, Tom Peters. No, I know, but it's the Tom Towers and Anthony Kim and Thomas Teacher. He's part of the Tom Towers. Two Tom, Dustin Anthony.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

How many minutes do you think we've talked about just the four aces?

[Big Cat]

A lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's got to be over 100.

[Hank]

Well, now that, now that Brooks is gone, it's like, I was, I was. We were actually watching live a lot this weekend because it was on at night, and Brooks not being in his.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Staying up late ruined the. Less the, the luster nose on, like, you know, sports time. Sports watching time.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

What's sports? Well, sports watching time never ends because we got international.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Nighttime and morning.

[Hank]

Yeah, but, like, for. I like to watch sports at night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well, and morning.

[Hank]

No, I'm done.

[PFT Commenter]

NFL. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right.

[Big Cat]

And you can tell that Hank just recently, like, the Tom Towers, that's a new thing that he. A mnemonic device he came up with recently to try to remember.

[PFT Commenter]

How do I remember both times?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No, yeah, because one of my friends asked me, and I forgot.

[Big Cat]

You're proud of the Tom Tower, so I can tell.

[PFT Commenter]

We cannot have either of these Toms leave the four Aces.

[Big Cat]

Also, we need to find out. I need to know how tall the top towers are. Like, are they actually tall?

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, if one of the Toms leaves the four Aces, Hank is gonna be. So six. Five. Okay, that's towers.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the other is Thomas Dietri. Let's get him.

[Big Cat]

He better be tall.

[PFT Commenter]

Both from Belgium.

[Hank]

Peter Uline was a four ace for life. For me. Like him, because I said that, and.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, it's not your grandfather's four Aces anymore.

[Big Cat]

This is four aces, but louder.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay. Pft. Your who's back of the week?

[Big Cat]

My who's back of the week is the NFL union report cards. Yeah, NFLPA report cards because. So the judge ruled that the report cards were too mean and they were being very, very disrespectful and unfair and nasty to Mr. Woody Johnson. So they're not allowed to put out the report cards this year, at least not through the media. But the upshot of this was through the arbitration and the deliberation, the guy in his decision ended up quoting directly from the upcoming 2025 NFL Team Report Cards in his decision to not allow them to release the report cards. Okay, so we did get some of the report cards.

[Jameis Winston]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Even though they're not allowed to put the report cards out.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

Does that make sense?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't even know if that makes sense, but that's how it happened. So, memes, you were upset because you thought that they were going to silence all the players talking about Woody Johnson. Not the case. We've got some Woody Johnson content for you if you'd like to hear.

[PFT Commenter]

How did the jets do?

[Jameis Winston]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

New York Jets. The union said players complained that management responded to feedback from the prior team report card by making conditions worse, including cutting the food budget, not retaining a long time dietitian after poor food grades the prior year. The union also graded owner Woody Johnson and F the lowest owner rating in the league, 5.58 out of 10. Which according to players, resulted from his perceived unwillingness to invest in facilities. Players cited perceived top leadership issues, with some describing issues as top down problems reflecting ownership concerns. So Woody Johnson took all the stuff that he got made fun of for last year and he responded by, by being like, oh yeah, you haven't begin to see how shitty I can get. I'm gonna make it all worse. Okay, so at least he got some, some notification of Woody Johnson being a giant out in the media. Anyways. Me memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Feel good.

[Big Cat]

Memes. You okay? Memes.

[Jameis Winston]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Woody Johnson just, you know, he's gotta go. He's gotta die. He's gotta die. He's gotta.

[Big Cat]

Memes. I thought you'd be. I thought you'd be glad. I mean, not really.

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing's going to change.

[Big Cat]

But isn't this what you wanted? You wanted more people talking about this? He's in the Epstein files. You want people to talk about that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but nobody's talking about that.

[Big Cat]

We are. Right now they're only talking about Tish national sports podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to talk about it. More people are only reporting on Tish from the Giants.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're only reporting about food for the Jets.

[Big Cat]

What else should they be reporting on?

[PFT Commenter]

He's in the files. Yeah, he's in them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There was one email that was like, Jess just lost his dog. But it's so clear that Memes has gone through all the files. He's seen every file just to look. He's doing control F for Woody Johnson. I think the funniest one was the, the email was like, jets just lost to the Dolphins on Woody's birthday and.

[Big Cat]

He'S, he's not happy right now.

[PFT Commenter]

And like that's just how the decisions.

[Big Cat]

Get made in the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're like, he'll just take the food away because they lost to the Dolphins. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And somebody's just letting Jeff know about this.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of listen Memes. It sucks because jets, it's your team. But I, I would. If I was an owner of NFL team, I don't know if I'd run it much differently. Like, I think I'd probably do kind of like that. Like. Yeah, you know what? We lost, you guys. Ice cream machine closed for the day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. When you put it that way, they are.

[PFT Commenter]

All they do is lose.

[Big Cat]

So you got to take stuff away.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Exactly. Like, I think I would probably do like that. Or like, you know, have my son decide the coaching decisions based off his Xbox season. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But Brick Johnson, to his credit, Devonte Adams, good wide receiver. Fair. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Very good.

[Big Cat]

It's a great decision. What about the other guys on Aaron Rodgers wish list? They're pretty good too. Yeah, but that's Aaron Rodgers. That's not for Johnson.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's.

[Big Cat]

Whose idea was to get Aaron Rodgers?

[PFT Commenter]

That was probably Brick.

[Big Cat]

It's probably Bob. We'll go Bob with that one. We'll go Bob. You Bob. Yeah, you. We also have some stuff in this report from the Eagles. The union highlighted that players are frustrated that meal times overlap with the organization's business staff leading to crowding and limited seats and feel they should get first class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff. What do you think about that, Max?

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of agree with that. Why aren't.

[Max]

I don't understand why that coaches story.

[Big Cat]

Guess what? It's in your name. You sit.

[PFT Commenter]

Coach, I got a question.

[Big Cat]

Pretty cut and dry.

[PFT Commenter]

Why. Why don't the team plane. Why don't the team owners just have planes that are just all first class?

[Max]

I'm not. I thought that's how it went.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I don't think it does. That makes no Sense to me though have it be. Make the whole plane out of first class.

[Big Cat]

You can't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Why not?

[Max]

There's no way they're going three deep.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they're not going three deep. I bet you they all get their own rose.

[Max]

What's the difference between that and first class?

[PFT Commenter]

A big difference. Because of fucking. If you put the your seat back, you're fucked. You're still scrunched.

[Big Cat]

Nobody would ever put their back in coach and then lay across.

[Max]

There's like a scrunch. There's no way.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a huge difference between.

[Max]

We're looking at this like it's like the United from Chicago to.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it is New York.

[Max]

There's no way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think it is. Is.

[Max]

There's no way.

[Big Cat]

I think it depends on which.

[PFT Commenter]

Which team Eagles team playing.

[Big Cat]

I think if you're. If you're doing well like Robert Kraft has a nice jet.

[PFT Commenter]

Phil. Philadelphia.

[Big Cat]

Real nice jet.

[PFT Commenter]

Philadelphia Eagles utilize American Airlines as their official charter partner for team travel frequently using large aircraft like Boeing Triple 7s.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're just using regular planes. That's crazy to me. I don't understand how it NFL.

[Max]

That does not look like a regular plane.

[Hank]

They're expensive.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because it's got Eagles.

[Big Cat]

How.

[PFT Commenter]

How much?

[Max]

It's two.

[Big Cat]

It's two all the way. Yeah. I think I could probably get you triple seven for. I'm just gonna guess 55 mil.

[PFT Commenter]

Triple seven cost 450 mil.

[Big Cat]

That's. We got one for free from Qatar pre owned.

[PFT Commenter]

You can get it for 15 mil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there you go. Of course I'm not talking like straight off the assembly line. Take me down the boneyard.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll get you on the new variant is. Is 440 mil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're not getting a new.

[PFT Commenter]

Make the whole plane first class for the boys.

[Big Cat]

You're not getting a new plane for a football team. Those guys are just going to chew it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, true. Okay. My, my. Who's back is Michael Jordan because he won the Daytona 500. No big deal.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Good job, Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he, and then he happened to know a young kid who is probably his friend's kid and he grabbed his shirt a few times and people are freaking out. Grabbing his shirt. Max is sitting there watching it with his just disgusting allegations.

[Max]

I mean he's putting a finger up this.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he's not. He is not. He's grabbing his shirt, Max. And it's probably a kitty nose. It's like you.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's cool.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but Listen, if you have. If you have kids and you have friends who have kids, you wrestle with the kids, right? Grabbing his shirt. You guys are being weirdos.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I. I under. I understand the horseplay excuse. I don't know that it seems like aggressive horseplay.

[PFT Commenter]

He's grabbing his shirt, and you don't think it matters that it's his friend's kids? It's a kid he knows. Definitely mad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If it's a complete stranger. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. That's like that. That's got that guy's son. He's grabbing his shirt also. Shirt.

[Big Cat]

This kind of sucks for that kid that this video is now out there.

[PFT Commenter]

MJ touched him. What are the boys doing in here? It's way too early to be in here, boys. Way too early to be in here. Way too early to be in here. But they can be in here if they want to be in here. But it's way too early.

[Big Cat]

No, this is like.

[PFT Commenter]

This is still got Zach to do who's Back. Then we got to do ads and we could do vacation talk, but you can come in.

[Big Cat]

This is like the worst thing to happen to this kid. It's bad that that this video is everywhere. Like the kid that was on the Nirvana album cover, he says that's the worst thing that's ever happened to him in his life. All the kids that hung out with Michael Jackson, that they even said nothing bad happened to them.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, now we're getting crazy compared to Michael Jackson.

[Big Cat]

Michael Jackson was never convicted of anything.

[PFT Commenter]

This is. This kid. His dad is probably a billionaire. He's gonna be okay.

[Big Cat]

I'm just saying. Not a great day for that kid, all things considered. You would rather not have. It's like four that video out of you as a kid.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't even know that. Everyone will know. He's like, Four. Okay, Max. Max was like, hey, did you see this? MJ's guys.

[Max]

People were talking about his ass.

[PFT Commenter]

And I watched it. Not even close.

[Max]

People were talking about it. Had to be talked about.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we talked about it.

[Big Cat]

It's a bad look.

[PFT Commenter]

He's grabbing his shirt.

[Big Cat]

It's a bad look.

[PFT Commenter]

He's grabbing his shirt.

[Big Cat]

I don't think he's actually.

[PFT Commenter]

He's grabbing his shirt.

[Big Cat]

He's trying to be. But Wild Uncle Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

He's grabbing a shirt. All right, Zach, my. Who's back of the week this week are just giving me an update for you guys.

[Big Cat]

We talked.

[PFT Commenter]

We talked Golden Auction a couple weeks ago. You guys remember that? We're talking about PSA 10 Pokemon Illustrator cards.

[Jameis Winston]

We have finals.

[PFT Commenter]

Said that word way too fast. Oh, which we. After the Golden Hawks show.

[Jameis Winston]

Oh, the.

[PFT Commenter]

The PSA 10. There we go. Pikachu illustrator card. Yep. WWE wrestler Logan Paul.

[Jameis Winston]

We.

[PFT Commenter]

We just had to find the.

[Big Cat]

The sale went down.

[PFT Commenter]

How much? 13 million.

[Big Cat]

Holy.

[PFT Commenter]

And he bought it for, like, 5.1 in 2022.

[Hank]

Didn't he scam a bunch of his fans?

[PFT Commenter]

I think those are. Those might be different controversies.

[Jameis Winston]

I think those are digital scams.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jameis Winston]

That was an nft situ situation.

[Hank]

Did he not sell ownership of this exact card?

[PFT Commenter]

Like the digital NFT ownership?

[Jameis Winston]

I believe, but not the physical, tangible ownership.

[PFT Commenter]

Was. Was Logan Paul the one with the. The clip with Brady?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, very.

[PFT Commenter]

That was the most choreographed, fakest clip ever. That people were like, oh, my God, look at this. They have a flag football game in. In Saudi Arabia.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, listen, I'm an athlete, Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't believe people actually thought that was a real conversation. Wow.

[Big Cat]

Tom Brady just pressed Logan Paul. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. So he sold it for 12 and a half million.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah. I think the auction went in, like, over to a little bit overtime for, like, 13. Who.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's buying this? That was. That's my biggest question is, like, where do you put this? Like, do you. Do you buy it to then go sell in a couple more years and think you're gonna get, like, 36 million? Yeah, I guess.

[Big Cat]

I think you just buy it knowing that you can scam a lot of people with this card with, like.

[PFT Commenter]

With counterfeit ones.

[Big Cat]

No, you can do. So you can run back the same scams that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Same playbook that Logan Paul was running. And now you're making money every year on the old scams. Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a. Zach. Are you a card collector?

[Jameis Winston]

I'm not a card collector.

[PFT Commenter]

I enjoy doing, like, the pack of rips. My. My brother's a card collector. I. I'll, like, open the packs with them.

[Jameis Winston]

I like the chase of it, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Not the collecting aspect. It is fun. It is fun. Like, the blind box are so much fun. So much fun. Because you just. It could be anything.

[Jameis Winston]

Anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Literally anything. It could be a Pokemon illustrator. It could be the worst thing ever. Or generational wealth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Good job. Good job, Zach. And just a digital scam. So not a real skit. Yeah. I think a lot of it was digitally scamming. Not physical, not hard copy scams.

[Jameis Winston]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So it's not. It's that. Not a big deal. And digital.

[Jameis Winston]

And it might have been like.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's like, like blockchain scam. So it's like deregulated scam. Got it, got it. Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think that's still scam, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, it is.

[Jameis Winston]

No, it doesn't make any better.

[Big Cat]

We're just, we're just clearing up the. Yeah, right, Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But if you say digital before pft, it's fine. Yeah, it's a digital scam. Okay, let's get, let's, let's do a couple ads and we have Jameis Winston. Like I said, I teased it. But some news that will make everyone very happy with J. And coming up after a couple ads.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest, one of our absolute favorites. It is Jameis Winston here with us. It is. We're taping this on Thursday before the Super Bowl. We're running it after the super bowl. But you're here with Madden. Let's start with that. Who's going to be on the COVID and why? Should it be you? It should be you.

[Jameis Winston]

I wish I did have the opportunity to be on the COVID First of all, I'm so happy and grateful to be with you two yet again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Jameis Winston]

Every time we unite, we make masterpieces.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Jameis Winston]

And I'm grateful for that Glasses too. Thank you. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Are those new?

[Jameis Winston]

These are metas.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they are. Are you taping us right now?

[Jameis Winston]

I'm not. I'm not taping you.

[PFT Commenter]

You can if you want.

[Big Cat]

I'll tape you. You tape me.

[Jameis Winston]

Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, let's do it. It's a tape bang.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, I gotta put this in. Mine's. Mine's dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Jameis Winston]

I need my charger. Yeah, but you still can record me. Okay, thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so you're not gonna be on the COVID You should be on.

[Jameis Winston]

The COVID I would love to be on the COVID but I don't know who's gonna be on the COVID Like, this year, I feel like Jameer Gibbs was the most exciting player that I've seen, like, with my two eyes. But outside of that, like, I don't. I'm not just gonna say, hey, put Stafford on the COVID because he's like, in the MVP running. Like, I feel like back in the day, like, the COVID used to actually mean something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You got to get it. Yeah. So we got to get. I mean, Drake may would probably be if he wins the Super Bowl, JSN.

[Jameis Winston]

JSN would be a good one.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, because he Been balling a guy.

[Big Cat]

You know, Camp Scatterboo.

[Jameis Winston]

Oh, my gosh. Already?

[Big Cat]

That'd be a fun.

[Jameis Winston]

He's definitely going to be on the COVID very soon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

All right. But six games and make the COVID Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But it was an impactful six games.

[Jameis Winston]

I feel like it was the most impactful six games ever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to sit down. I want to play with Cam Scott as like my running back.

[Jameis Winston]

He should definitely probably get a 99 just because the energy and violence that he.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like he is.

[PFT Commenter]

So what was he like when you first met him? And you're like, oh, man, this. This cat's different, man.

[Jameis Winston]

One thing about him and Jackson and, and Abdul, they were the most confident kids. And I say kids because they look like freaking kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right.

[Jameis Winston]

Like that I ever met in my life. Right. They just walk into the NFL locker room like they're certain of themselves. Cam is yelling at people already. He doesn't really care if you a 12 year vet or if you're a rookie with him. I just remember him and Abdul Carter about to get into a freaking fist fight because of draft status.

[Max]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

Because Cam thought he should be drafted higher and Abdul was. He wasn't worried about Cam because he wasn't drafted in his position. Right. So it was just, it was a beautiful thing to see, seeing the new wave of football with all the nil. And I feel like the, the young athlete is. Is being blessed with so many early opportunities. But to have three rookies that were. Are very good come in and be obsessed with football like I was, I was taken away by that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And listen, I, I'm not joking when I say you should be on the COVID And I think you know exactly the moment you should be on the COVID for the touchdown against the Lions, which was. I wish I. We gotta find the clip in the gambling cave because we were losing our minds. Can you walk us through that play? And like, it was the best touchdown of the year, I'm gonna say right.

[Jameis Winston]

Now, yes, it was the best play of the year. NFL owners, you should definitely acknowledge that. But anyways, I, I just. When the play was called, I looked over to the sideline. I was like, I've been waiting for this moment, Right? So we called a double reverse pass. And I see the, the linebacker, he has his eyes on me, so he's playing really good. Like he, he's having great eye discipline. But as I get behind him, like, I throw my hand up because I'm like, Gunner, like, the ball should have been up by now, not knowing that he's extending the play back there, he throws the ball up. One thing about a quarterback position, you give your receiver a chance.

[Big Cat]

Yes, yes.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. A receiver has never caught a ball that's out of bounds. And when he don't have a chance. So he gave me a chance. I came back to the ball, I turned around, I gave him a little doo doo, you know what I'm saying? That little one, two. I put him in the dirt, and I finished with a nice finger roll.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you were ready for that.

[Big Cat]

I was upset because the camera cut away from your celebration too soon on that.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah. I mean, it was something that was premeditated. I knew I was gonna do that celebration. I practiced that celebration in the dinner room the night before. I got confirmation from my Detroit brothers, Devin Funches and Nick Jones, that I could do this celebration. Cause it was really a Detroit dance called Motown. The Boss up. The walk was Motown, you know what I'm saying? Walking down the Soul train line. But the dance was called the Boss Up. So I was bossing up on the Detroit Lions.

[Big Cat]

It was great. It was a beautiful moment. We loved it. And then afterwards, you're like, I'll play tight end if you want me to.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, I'll line up.

[Big Cat]

I think a lot of guys would say that. I think you actually would line up at tight end.

[Jameis Winston]

Man, I have clips training running routes. Like, this is not something that I'm just talking about. Like, I'm. I'm obsessed with this game. I love what I do, and if I had to play tight end, I would. But I like playing quarterback.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, we need you to. We need to get back that out there on the field. Who knows what the next couple months is going to bring. I think that a lot of people are talking about you as potentially being a free agent again. Have you thought about that? Have you thought about what you're. What you would ideally like to do next year?

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, start. That's. That's ideally. But I'm. I'm locked in with the Giants for one more year under contract, so. That's exciting to go into a year primarily for family. Right. Like my wife, my kids, understanding that, like, daddy gets to at least compete at a place that we're at.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

Because I think one of the most challenging things about for any athlete, that family is important to them is, like, the moving and the uncertainty of what's next. One thing I'm certain about is my abilities, but I am excited to be back with the New York Football Giants. And serve that organization to my very best.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you talked to Coach Harbaugh yet?

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, he's the man. He's elite, man. Like in the weight room at five o' clock in the morning with yoga pants on. Yeah, like lifting. Lifting heavy. And I asked him. No, not, not really. He said they were yoga pants. They look like slacks. Yeah, like chinos. I'm like, coach, like, why are you working on chinos? You know, he's like, oh, they're yoga pants.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a good, and he's a good culture builder. It feels like things, you know, are going to start turning in the right direction.

[Jameis Winston]

Well, he's, he is, he is certain about his approach. Like every, like one of my best friends who's the past game coordinator for the Cleveland Browns, Danny Breyer, will always rave about like his intent in the meetings. He always had intent with what he was saying. He wasn't just coming from left field trying to speak to the, to the teammates. It's not a real rah rah guy. Everything he did was calculated and intentional. And that's what we need for the football Giants big time.

[Big Cat]

I like it when you say football giants. I feel like we need to bring that back. More of Chris Berman used to always remind the New York football Giants, you gotta put some stank on it. How do you like living in New York work?

[Jameis Winston]

I live in Jersey. Jersey. But I love being able to wake up and we got to, we're right on the Hudson River. Got the city behind us, Hudson Yards. Like it is. It's unbelievable. Like me and my wife say, like it don't get old.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Every, like even with the snow coming down like ice hills piled like 20ft in the freaking air. It's iconic. Like me and my son, like freaking like we're climbing Mount Everest to get to the top of this freaking ice hill. And then I get into the facility and one of the local, I think our video guy, Carm, he asked me, he's like, did you take any trash can lids off? What am I gonna do with the trash can lids? You go sledding, you take your kids. And then I felt like a failure because I didn't know about trash can lids. You can't know until my kids sledding. So when that opportunity presents itself, next time I'm be pushing my kids down that hill just ready to go. Yeah. But no, I just think the city, I've always wanted to be a part of something that's more right and what New York provides the athlete and really anybody that's there, right? Because it's probably the most diverse place in the world is like, you really see the American dream when you're able to look at that skyline and you see like, man, one of the funniest things I ever seen. Like I'm, I'm going to my first Yankees game ever, right? We're staying in Harlem, right, at the Renaissance Hotel. And like, I'm trying to do it right way because I'm like, hey, we could stand in Harlem Renaissance, you know, we're going to take the subway to the Bronx, right, And watch the Yankees play my first game ever, man. As we walk on the street, we walk to like a little deli down the street. I see like this Latino baby, like 6 years old on the phone walking in a full conversation. I got my 4 year old at the time, who's taller than this 6 year old that's walking on the phone in a stroller.

[PFT Commenter]

Because he's asleep, right?

[Jameis Winston]

And I'm just like, this is New York City.

[PFT Commenter]

New York. Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

This is the American dream.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

This six year old Latina kid is already having Fortune 500 business calls on his track phone, like in, in the streets of Harlem. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, how Apollo Theater is right there and I see this little, this little Latino kid like, on the phone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's so good.

[Jameis Winston]

I'm just like, good. That is iconic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's closing deals.

[PFT Commenter]

It is true. New York has got like, just characters and everything everywhere. You also, it is a city of opportunity. You had what I would say is the greatest opportunity ever in that you got to have dinner with the Rizzler. So tell us all about the dinner.

[Jameis Winston]

With the Rizzler, man. It was the, the greatest, greatest rated G dinner that I ever had in my life.

[PFT Commenter]

Was there a moment where you're like, I'm having dinner with a seven year old or I don't even know how old the Rizzler is.

[Jameis Winston]

He's not. He's nine.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay? He's nine. He's nine.

[Jameis Winston]

The moment was when I, when I saw him, right? Because the Riz has this aura about him where, like, everyone knows who the Riz is, right? So as we're walking into the restaurant, like, I'm getting my coach checked and everything. And like, you can see the host is like, she's laughing like, because she knows who the Riz. I'm like, hey, can I get my, my coat checked? It's freezing out here and you're laughing at this Little kid right here. So we walking up to the restaurant and like, everybody wants to shake this guy's hand. And like, he's a little kid. So he's like, he knows how to handle himself around adult. But his presence is so grand, bro. Like, I'm just like, I'm sitting here having dinner with him. We talking about caviar. I'm just like, have you ever had caviar before? He's like, no, I never had it. And I was like, well, you know, it's. It's fish eggs, right? Like, we talking about sushi. I was like, do you like sushi? You know what I'm saying? He's like, I like sushi. So he had this meal where he tried the Japanese oni, right? And uni is acquired taste. You know what I'm saying? Like, it looks like yellow paste, but you gotta know what you're eating. So he's like, yeah, I love uni. I said, do you know what uni is or is? He's like, yeah, of course. And you see those chubby cheeks just looking like. Oh, like he might know because I don't know where his palate tastes him. But we sitting there having conversation. The uni comes out and he's like, I love this. I'm just like. I'm like, do you really love this? He ate one bite and he ate the risotto. He didn't eat the oni. So I'm just like, you got me wasting money on a meal. So that's when I realized, like, okay, I am with a kid. But the unique thing was, like, my 7 year old was right next to my 7 year old and 5 year old, they were sharing jokes back and forth.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They got to be big Rizzler fans.

[Jameis Winston]

It was unbelievable. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did he at least reach for the check at the end of the meal? They pretend like I got it.

[Jameis Winston]

I would not let him do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's no way I'm gonna let a nine year old reach over. Listen, I got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Might have more money than all of us.

[Jameis Winston]

He might.

[PFT Commenter]

He could. That. That's definitely on the table.

[Jameis Winston]

But I do, like, I was very grateful to meet his. His pop, you know, because in this world, like when you have kids who work as hard as him, like, in terms of. Have the fame, you see their parents pushing them and like, everything, and they're trying to create all these moments. But his dad, Brian, was so chill. Such a vibe. Like he was sharing, like, the moments that they actually have at home, like, he was. He was geeking out because, you know, he was from Staten island. And, like, his, His. His love for the Giants, man, like, it was really cool just to see the child come out of his father. Right. And to see that connection that they had. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The. The most starstruck you've been since you've been in New York.

[Jameis Winston]

Had to be.

[Big Cat]

Had to be big time business dinners.

[Jameis Winston]

It was unbelievable.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, because, like, I'm, like, sitting next to this icon and, like, he's a quarter of the age I am.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

So I'm just like, what did I do wrong?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Not to be able to be like this kid.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I was on my grind when I was nine.

[Jameis Winston]

Like you.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

I wasn't working like him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The 401k for that. If you. If he's putting stuff away every year, like, he's gonna be a billionaire by the time he's like, 40 years old, bro.

[Jameis Winston]

But have you seen this Cribs episode?

[Big Cat]

I know, I haven't seen that one, bro.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, he's freaking. I think he's like seven in the video and he has, like, stuff in there. I'm just like, what? Like, who has this type of stuff? Like, how's this kid? He's got these iconic pieces.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I got an idea I want to throw at you because we're going to need your consent to be able to pull off this idea. But it's a long running idea on our show. When we get into a football season, there's always a bunch of injuries that happen in the quarterback position. It sucks. It's part of the game. But then we get to like, week 10, and there's a Monday night game and it's a backup quarterback, and it's like, all right, we don't really want to watch this guy. And we've always said that Jameis Winston should just be like, all time quarterback for any prime time game that doesn't have a good matchup. Do you think you could pull that off? We like, hey, Monday. It's like, hey, Jameis, you got to go to Arizona. We're gonna need you. They're playing Monday Night Football against the Cowboys. We need some jamis. Could you do that?

[Jameis Winston]

Oh, Jacoby played an excellent game.

[Big Cat]

He did.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah. But yes.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Jameis Winston]

All right, good.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Jameis Winston]

To playing in everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Literally, I feel like we playing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

I get to get on the field. Yes. Sign me up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Because it's like, we. There are those bummer games, the standalone games later in the season. It's like, you know what this game needs? It needs more Jamis.

[Jameis Winston]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

I really appreciate it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was you and Joe Flacco. We just have James and Joe Flacco, just the country, wherever you need to go so that we can watch some fun football.

[Jameis Winston]

It would be electric because you always give.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, the thing with you is that. And I love watching you play, especially this part of your career where it's like, you know, maybe you're not a starter every year, but when you get in, you always give your guys a chance and you're always going to actually like throw the ball downfield. Because what happens a lot with backup quarterbacks that get in, it's a, you know, a lot of like five yard passes, trying to be safe. You're giving your guys a shot every single play.

[Jameis Winston]

Well, that's the NFL receivers, they deserve a chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Jameis Winston]

Right. Like, we're not playing fearless. But this was, this year was fun. It was very unique because of the dynamic that we had in our quarterback room with having a Super bowl winning champ and having a first round pick and having myself who threw for a gazillion yards. So starting off with Russ being a starter, man, I'm literally, I'm just like, I just remember the day like the back of my hand where I'm excited. Like, just signed with the New York Football Giants. Two weeks later, I see Russia, big smile, like, what Russ, I already know they gonna draft a young kid. Like, now I gotta, I gotta go through him. And then training camp gets, gets here. Dave's gives him the position. And to see how Russ and Jackson were like, just being nurtured in this, in this system where I'm just like, man, like me and Tommy DeVito who's with the Patriots now, I'm just like, man, like, am I gonna get enough reps? Like, because one, he's learned. Russell learned the offense. Jackson is a young rookie, so he's learning the offense. So it's not, it's not enough reps for everybody, right? So it really was a very unique experience for me competing, right? Like, I remember reading Tom Brady's kind of novel with his, his sports psychiatrist in Michigan where Tom was talking about his opportunity at Michigan as the backup, how like every practice rep he was playing a game rep because he didn't know when was going to be his next opportunity. And then eventually he ended up overtaking the starting position next year, starring and leading him to win Rose bowl. Right? So I was. Had to. Had to like, kind of get into that mode where like man, every freaking rep that I have, like, I don't care if I'm throwing the ball to Gunnar Olsef Shige or some undrafted rookie from, you know, the Opelika Mountains. Man, we're gonna make something happen, and we're gonna create excitement and. And guys are going to want to love playing football when I'm out there on that field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And we still do. Every time we get out there, it's. It is exciting to watch. I. I hope that you get another chance to start. I think that you had. Well, I know that you definitely have the belief in yourself, and I got the belief in you, and Big Cat has a belief in you that you can do it again. Do you. Have you got the sense from other GMs that there could be an opportunity, or would it have to be the right backup?

[Jameis Winston]

I think. I think this. This role with the. The dream that Sam Donald is selling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Now with being connected with the right minds and being in a good system and being able to take advantage of his opportunity and showing it over and over again. Right. I think that is helping so many of the quarterbacks that, you know, get deemed journeymen. Right. Like, it's really just making the most of your opportunity when it's presented. You saw it this year with. What's his name? Mac Jones. Right. Like, he got. He got his shot to spin. He went out there and he did what was required. Yeah. So. So I know it's gonna, like, it's gonna. It's gonna come around again, you know, like buses, 15 minutes, you know, it's gonna come around, and I'm gonna make the most of it.

[PFT Commenter]

How many more years do you think you can play?

[Jameis Winston]

I would love to play 12 years. Right. And that's just. 12. Wait, 12 more years or 12 more years?

[PFT Commenter]

12 more years.

[Jameis Winston]

I'm gonna be on 12 this year. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're gonna play 24 years.

[Jameis Winston]

Yes. I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. The great. I was so nervous asking that question. You could be like, I got three more years. No, you got 12 more years. Yeah, we're halfway.

[Jameis Winston]

In terms of my arm, like, it's just. I'm. I'm blessed. Like, I'm really grateful that that guy gave me this arm. And in his mind, right? So, like, I'm growing every year. Constant growth. Right. And just the fun of being able to increase the people that's around you. Right. And that's why the tough thing of this year in terms of our team was, like, man, going into training camp, like, I had a feeling that this was going to be a great squad. Like, just the tenacity of our defense. Right. How offense with Malik Neighbors and young Cam Scatterboo. Tyrone Tracy doing his thing. We had a elite officer line. Great O line coach Mike Kafka had to him calling plates like, I knew it was going to be good, but it was those fourth quarters, man, it was four quarters where we didn't finish.

[PFT Commenter]

Sign me up for 12 more years of chance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're just scratching the surface.

[Jameis Winston]

Start the petition now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. 12 more years.

[Big Cat]

We can say this is the end of act one.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We're just at halftime.

[Jameis Winston]

It is. Yeah, we are.

[Big Cat]

So you gotta, you got any adjustments that you're making at halftime?

[Jameis Winston]

The biggest adjustments is just more, more tv, you know I'm saying I'm probably gonna have a few Broadway appearances, have a rap album out, you know what I'm saying? Just depends. Some Christmas carols, you know what I'm saying? Gonna team up with some AI Frank Sinatra, just to get the brand up and moving, you know?

[Big Cat]

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[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, with Russ, it was, it was very challenging with him. And, and I, I like balancing helping Jackson stay prepared and keeping a future hall of famer, super bowl winning championship uplifted every single day. I Felt like it was a blessing in disguise, man, because I was able to share Russ. Like, Russ, you've never been in this position before. You've never been in a position where, you know, you felt like you didn't play like you wanted to and you got benched and the young quarterback is coming in and he's playing good, he's bringing excitement. So, like, I'm here for that because I've seen that happen, right. I've been injured and I've been having to watch freaking Andy Dalton lead the ham with the New Orleans Saints. Like, I've seen it, right. I've had to get, have his back and support him because it's always about the team. And I think Russ's mentality of his leadership paid off tremendously because he know the importance of the team. Right. And as a quarterback, we know we're the only person out there. So it's tough, it's tough to swallow that pride when you know that you're capable and you're able to still spin and rust and still play. Don't get me wrong, but he grew more this year because he had to be in that humble state than he did over all the other places. Like, because, you know, Denver, like, it was, it was bad. It was bad out there in Denver. Right. Pittsburgh, he led him to the playoffs. You know, it was, it was okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

Like he, but he stepped back on the scene. But this year was supposed to be like, he won his first super bowl in New York. Like he's supposed to be back. Right. But God challenged him in a way that he's never been. He's probably been challenged before because people doubted him coming out of freaking college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. So I think it is igniting something within him to allow him to have the greatest comeback of his life. And I'm praying, I hope that he has that. But I, I just commend his leadership in his consistency of continuing to pour into Jackson, continue to stay like, relevant and active man. Russ was buying team dinner every Thursday, every Thursday. He picking up the tab he, he bringing in from Lunello's, feeding the whole, the whole building. Right. Like, so nothing, nothing fell off. Like, he stayed consistent and he was a great teammate.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you're a great teammate. And any, any GM that's listening to this is like if this is how Jameis acts when he's a third string quarterback and cares about his teammates in this way. Imagine the Jamis you're going to get if he's your starter.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, actually it's probably going to be the same guy. I don't think that that would change anything, but it does show because a lot of guys, if they're in that role, they would just kind of, you know, check out a little bit and worry about their future. And, and you were dedicated to all the guys on your team. And can we just, can we refresh people on the, the time that you were starting in New Orleans.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The season that you were putting up, the numbers you were putting up. Can you just. I don't know if you know those off the top of your head, but can you describe how you felt in.

[Jameis Winston]

The league in touchdowns?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

And I was leading the league in touchdown interception ratio, which everyone gives me hick about.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Jameis Winston]

To this day. Yep. Right. And we were 5 and 2.

[Big Cat]

5 and 2.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, so we, we, we were on a up and up, up, you know, but things happen and then.

[Big Cat]

But the stuff that you played through.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't think people know no broke back. Broken back.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. A rupture preventing your longest.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

People don't even know what it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what that is, but it sounds.

[Jameis Winston]

That's a muscle that runs right down the side of your cab that wraps around and attached to your big toe. Right. So like in, in quarterbacks know this. Like you do whatever. And I saw Drew Brees do this the year before.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like he did everything he could not to come off that field. Right. He wrote in his, his book, in his memoir about how Doug Flutie, his relationship with Doug Flutie, like if Doug flew, was hurt, he'll never come off the field because, like, man, I, I can't come off this field because the, the backup quarterback come in and freaking take my job. Right. So just learning that, understanding that, man, I got a freaking broke back. Like my plant leg. I can't freaking move. And then I had to fly to freaking London.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

On a nine hour flight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

With a freaking bone stimulator wrapped around my back and try to play.

[Big Cat]

What's a bone stimulator?

[Jameis Winston]

It's like a, it's like a PMF machine that they give you.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. Well, we bought those pads.

[Jameis Winston]

The, the PEMF is like a halo that you wrap around those work to try to heal. Try to heal your bone. I, I think, I mean, I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

In pain though.

[PFT Commenter]

He bought them because I ain't never two about it for his offensive line lineman and we were just like, maybe they'll work.

[Jameis Winston]

No, no, this one was different. Like this was like a bone pmf. So like, okay, it looked like, you know how, like it looked like a back brace.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. Imagine me sending my Virgin mobile little.

[Big Cat]

Slot like, I hope my bones are improving right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Virgin Airlines get these bones better. Did you do you as a backup, do you this year, do you buy your offensive lineman a gift?

[Jameis Winston]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you get them?

[Jameis Winston]

So I had like a, I had a moment of gratitude for the office lineman because I got like this chrome hearts hat, right? And the plan was I know a young guy was gonna get the hat because none of the OGs, office linemen, they're not gonna, they don't care about a 1200, 1200 dollar hat. Yeah, right. So one of our young rookies had got the hat and my main thing was like, are you grateful? Are you grateful for this hat? The hat couldn't fit his head, right? Like, and like everybody's walking around with freaking projectors, Prada bags, Cartier shade. He's walking around with a chrome hearts hat, right? And he's looking at me like, James, you got me this hat. I can't even wear this hat. Jackson trying to try the hat on, he was like, man, hopefully I can get it. You can have my gift. Right? So that's kudos to Jackson, but I end up giving him a nice Louis bag with some Lewis shades. But all my office alignment. Got steaks like Snakeville Farms always look out for me, man. When it come to stakes, like, I gotta get them. No punishment. I gotta get him some meat, man. I gotta feed my old lives.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, definitely, definitely. What's, what's, what's going on with Florida State?

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Other than is the fix as simple as just having your brother there?

[Jameis Winston]

Yes. Them having a Winston on the roster is definitely going to be, yeah, huge. But I tell you, with this new wave of football, athletes are more privileged than we were in the past. So being able to recruit an athlete that really loves football and also their family wants their child to be a football player besides a millionaire or entrepreneur or whatever, Right. With all this money coming in, I think that's very important. So the challenge is not really the kids, it's the parents and the guardians to keep them focused on why they're even getting this blessing of money. But in terms of forsaken, I believe they're, they're hitting on the right track. I went down for my brother's official visit, spent some time, just saw how they were doing anything. We just like Florida State just got their own football facility.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Jameis Winston]

October 2025, one of the most iconic football programs was working out in the gym. I was working in the gym with the swimmers, bro. And swimmers grind. They in there early, right? Like, I'm doing the set and then the swimming girls, they're doing the set, like in the same gym. And I go to Florida State, I'm sharing. And look, I know, sorry, guys if I sound spoiled, right? Because HBCUs don't have nothing.

[Hank]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

They don't even got a trainer. But anyways, I'm sharing treatment tables with the tennis team and I'm just like, look, man, okay, look, I know your injury is just as important as our injury, but it's football season. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And also football is, I mean, is the main money driver.

[Jameis Winston]

It is, right? And it was just. It was tough being on the baseball. Baseball, we had on weight room. We had everything accessible to us. Right. On the baseball team. But football, like, we're sharing things. Like, you know, I love the fact that Doak Campbell is connected to the hospitality, like the school of hospitality at Florida State. Right. So you see so many different faces coming in. It's connected to the testing center and everything. So it's a lot of people in there, but, yeah, student athletes. But we come in there to play football.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, right, right.

[Jameis Winston]

And if you come in there to play football, how can you attract these top players when they're walking in the facility and you don't even have something that caters to them and they go.

[PFT Commenter]

To other places and they cleanse it as a slide in a barbershop.

[Jameis Winston]

So we overcame that hump in terms of the. The I factor. But in terms of our head coach, in terms of our program, I still believe Florida State has that traditional program. Program. But however, we have to put behind the past, whether whether the championship that we had, whether that season that they left us out of the playoffs, we have to put that behind us and find a way to move forward and start winning football games, because that's all that matters.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Are you talking to your brother a lot? Are you, like, advising him or is he like, I want to do my own thing. I want to be my own man.

[Jameis Winston]

So his entire high school career. Right. Middle school, I wanted him to have the same experience that I had with my dad. Right. Just one on one coaching, growing, not having multiple voices in his ear. But when he signed with Florida State, I had to be there there. I had to be there on his official visit. I had to be there, like with his official signing. Because now I feel like I'm Passing the torch to him. And I cannot not be there for him when I know, honestly, it's relatively very new, but I know the ins and outs of the campus, and we finally have a similarity in terms of. Yeah, we love football. But now he's at that age where his receptiveness to another voice. Because my dad is elite, like, I'm blessed. We blessed to have our dad in our life. But his receptiveness to me now at this age is way more receptive than what he was when he was younger, because, like, he just, like, man, my brother in the league, like, I'm trying to get there. I'm putting my head down. I'm working my butt off, right. My daddy, he. He created one of them, so he created me. Right. So I'm gonna have this opportunity. So I'm excited to. To even have a deeper relationship with him. Right. Because talking to him about going to Florida State, man, it had me in tears, right? Because I'm just like, man, Joe P. Like, I was a part of building this. And now you gonna go and you're going there for you. You're not going there for me. Right. You're not getting a scholarship because I did this stuff. You get a scholarship because you earned this. Right. So don't go out there and try to separate yourself from me. Go in there and be the best Winston that you possibly can be and keep doing what God gave you and your talent.

[Big Cat]

And I. You know, a lot's changed since he went to school there.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Some of this stuff is not against the rules anymore now. Now that he's there. So he won't run any of those problems.

[Jameis Winston]

No, he won't. He gonna get sponsorships.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's the difference. It's like, he's gonna get paid.

[Jameis Winston]

But, you know, like, I feel like it is, like, it's a. It's a saying in the Bible about, like, everything is permissible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

But not everything is beneficial.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. So, like, yes. All these. These partnerships and stuff, like, it's. Yeah, you can do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

It's there, it's out, It's. Everyone can get it. But, like, you still have to be looking for the strategic beneficial partnerships.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Right. That you can get, and that's what he looking for. So he probably won't have no crab leg sponsorships in his future. But you can talk with me, because I got some crab leg QR codes that I love. That fish market.

[Big Cat]

That is one of those, like, we. I'm gonna put air quotes on scandals.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's that and the Ohio State, like, free tattoo stuff that we look back on. We're like, we were. We're just so stupid as a society for treating those like they were the biggest issues that we had for. For young football players coming up through.

[Jameis Winston]

The college system, man, I. I feel like the scrutiny that amateur athletes, right. These are. We were high school players, right. The scrutiny that. That we get is huge because of the platform that we have in terms of. Everyone's watching us. You saw the excitement with freaking Indiana winning the college football national championship this year. Just the excitement of Miami being able to play in their home field. So those viewers obviously bring a lot of eyes, but at the end of the day, these are still amateur athletes. Like, these are kids. I was a kid in college. All of us, like, the people. The people that's on Twitter that's tweeting like, this guy sucks. He's a bad person. You're talking about a kid, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jameis Winston]

So, like, I. I always encourage, especially men, right, to have a point of view of, like, how are you? When you were 18 years old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, big time.

[Big Cat]

I was an idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Still a moron.

[Jameis Winston]

Then the height of the social media wave of cameras been like, I remember me and my boy Joe, man, we used to walk into Coliseum, and I promise you, it was just like we were at a freaking glow party. Everybody had they phone out, lighting us up, recording. Like, as I'm walking through, like. Like, I remember, like, my walkout song for baseball was I'd be feeling like the man when I walked through, right? So, like, and I felt like the man when I was walking through, like, everybody got their phone out, like, light me up. I'm just like, man, like. Like, can I just not come and party?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

In peace. Right? You know, you can't. We had. We had to start having house parties, man. It was. It was not. It was definitely fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Is there. Is there anybody that's. That's playing college ball right now that you watch and you say, I. I. Maybe it doesn't remind you of you, but the way that we watch you play, we get excited.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is there a player that you watch and you're like, I love watching that guy play.

[Jameis Winston]

I. I did enjoy watching Fernando Mendoza compete this year because I. I was looking, I was like, man, like. Because I know Florida State, like, we beat Cal last year, and he was the quarterback. I was like, man, man, like, this kid continues to show up every single week, right? And how's he doing it with Indiana? Because I'm still, like, in my mind, I'm just like, this is still Indiana. Like, when they beat Ohio State.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

I was like.

[PFT Commenter]

It took a long time for people. I mean, the Rose bowl was like. I. I was like, indiana's gonna kill Alabama. But a lot of people were like, it's Alabama. It's Indiana. It's gonna be Alabama.

[Jameis Winston]

Indiana looked like Alabama.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. They. They absolutely dominated.

[Jameis Winston]

They didn't have IU on the side of the head. You. If you were watching that, those teams you like, oh, that's Alabama and that's Indiana.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, and that's. That's just the program that Coach Signetti has developed and the players have bought in. And when you look at Indiana, those players look like they love football. Yeah. All of them are 23 years old with big old beards, and they are there for football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, I found. I found the clip. Let's watch it. I hope we don't say anything stupid in this, but this is you scoring the touchdown down. This is us every Sunday, just sitting there. Oh, j. Oh.

[Jameis Winston]

That play was epic. Jam.

[Max]

That was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Jameis Winston]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. You threw that guy off more. Oh, man, Look how dead this play was.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that was how we were reacting in the cave. We love you. We love watching you on Sundays. That's like the. The. I mean, there wasn't a Giants fan in that cave, and we all were just like you had. I think we might have put you on main TV for that one.

[Jameis Winston]

Appreciate it, man. The funny thing about that game, like, so behind me, like, you can hear the fans heckling, right? Like, hey, Jameis, throw us one.

[PFT Commenter]

Throw us one.

[Jameis Winston]

I know it's coming. And, like, after that play, even the Lions fans, they were like, good job, Jameis. W. Jameis.

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa.

[Jameis Winston]

For you to get the opposing team to stop hating, enjoying you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

That was exciting.

[PFT Commenter]

It's good football.

[Big Cat]

If you heard all the different voices in that room that were all yelling, Jameis. I kind of like, like, six or seven different guys that I heard. We all root for different teams when we're watching football on Sundays, we're all yelling at each other. It's like the most combative viewing experience that you could have, and you brought that room together.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

To all cheer for you, because that's how much we care for you.

[Jameis Winston]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

And you need to be. We need to see James starting in the NFL. And I absolutely need.

[PFT Commenter]

I guarantee you that if we had, like. If that clip was, like, 20 minutes long, 20 minutes later, there was probably just stray like, like, oh, Jamis, that was so sick.

[Big Cat]

Remember that?

[PFT Commenter]

James still saying it. Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Over and over, man. That was iconic. I'm gonna give a fans memories, I'm. Give everybody memories when I'm out there on that field. But the memory that I want is to be that super bowl winning quarterback.

[Big Cat]

That's what I have for you.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it. All right, I got one last question. Roback, roback.com which by the way, you're. Yeah, we were in an ad together. Yeah. Roback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code Take. I assume you should be a 99 in Madden, but who, who do you think? Who's the. Let's say, let's go from this. A defensive player that's giving you fits that you're like, that guy should be 99.

[Jameis Winston]

Well, from watching, man, will, Will Anderson had an amazing year.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good one.

[Jameis Winston]

Defensive end, he, he did an incredible job. Christian Gonzalez, man, he was locked down this year. Like nobody was catching. Like when you watch the AFC championship game, you're like, oh my goodness, like they catching the ball on them and then I don't know where he gets that pick. At the end of, the end of the game you like see like can't nobody mess with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

One person that a lot of people not going to talk about, but I feel like he's like low key. One of the best defensive players in the league is Devon Witherspoon.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Jameis Winston]

Spoon is, he is the heart and soul of that Seattle Seahawks defense. Like he is coordinating everything back there. He doesn't miss tackles, he makes plays on the ball. Like he is a true football player out there, man. And, and he definitely deserves a 99 on defense.

[Big Cat]

Do you have any rules? I know that sometimes quarterbacks are like, I'm not throwing it at Spoon. I'm not going to challenge them. Is there anybody, is there any quarterback that's, that's ever made you say, I'm taking away? I'm not gonna look that way.

[Jameis Winston]

Not ever in my life.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Never.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a good throw beats great coverage, right?

[Jameis Winston]

It does. But I feel like that's the competitive side. Like, obviously as you're planning for a week, you're looking at who we gonna be attacking for the majority of the game. But when, when that time comes, you have to be your best against their best. Like that's football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Like, so I ain't ducking no wreck, dog. Yeah, I ain't running away from.

[Big Cat]

No, it's almost like a challenge. Like, Spoon's good, but what if I beat him?

[Jameis Winston]

I'm gonna attack him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

I ain't get him on his heels. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Well, Jameis, always awesome to have you on. We're. We remain your biggest fans. Can't wait for you to get another shot at start the Super Bowl. I mean, listen, I'll say this. When you do get to the super bowl as a starting quarterback, you have to come on the show that week, if that's okay.

[Jameis Winston]

No, we would do a zoom call because I'm gonna be. Oh, y' all can come to the.

[PFT Commenter]

No, we'll be at the Super Bowl. We'll be at the Super Bowl.

[Jameis Winston]

We'll come wherever you come. To the hotel.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, no problem. No problem. We want you locked in. Yeah, but we'll, we, we just, we needed. We did a Super bowl week.

[Jameis Winston]

James, y' all will get anything from.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, all right.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah, maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe some seats.

[Jameis Winston]

Y' all get anything?

[Big Cat]

Okay, I gotta sign jersey afterwards, party after.

[Jameis Winston]

Not my signatures. Wait, wait till we make another one. Okay. All right. That one's going.

[PFT Commenter]

We party with you after, definitely.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[Jameis Winston]

Y' all are in.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jameis Winston]

Done.

[PFT Commenter]

Done. James, you're the best man.

[Jameis Winston]

No, thank you. Y' all are.

[PFT Commenter]

Appreciate you.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's wrap up with some vacation talk. By the way, I just refreshed Twitter while PFD was doing a couple ads, and it's got to be Katie's burners. The way he's walking around with his phone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just panicking. It's so good. Like, that's a guy who's. We've all been on that side of.

[Hank]

It, leaning into it.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know, man. We've all been on that side of it where the Internet's coming for you and you're just kind of pacing around looking at your phone. You know, you think he's leaning into it or you think I. He looks pretty concerned when he's like. He had his phone out on the court. When guys are, like, taking warm ups, he's just.

[Big Cat]

He's just scrolling. That's KD is. What would he be doing fully into that life?

[PFT Commenter]

Just, I don't know, refreshing. Everyone talking about it, getting text messages, like, from people.

[Big Cat]

This is a big part of.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This one.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that. I mean, he's just all. He's just walking around on his phone, Hank. Look at that. The guys are shooting around.

[Hank]

That's what. Leaning into it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I guess he knows that he's gonna listen, but he doesn't look.

[PFT Commenter]

His face doesn't look like he's leaning into it.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, no, relax, champ. No relax. When I'm on Twitter.

[PFT Commenter]

He did.

[Big Cat]

On 10. Until the second I close the app, you relax.

[PFT Commenter]

He did go after Shams the other night for being on his phone during. During a game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he was on it all night tonight.

[Big Cat]

Kevin Durant is never going to log off. And. And it's a. It's a fool's errand to try to even get him to try. So just let the man cook.

[PFT Commenter]

Like I said, Hank, he might be. There's a chance he's got a. He's on his third burner roasting Kevin Durant's second burner as a burner. He's like these. There's free jokes to get off.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's wrap up the show. How is everyone's vacation? Hank, you want to start?

[Hank]

Yeah, I will start. It was awesome. I was. I was on a golf trip. Seven. Seven of my. My childhood friends, guys I've known for 20 years. I showed up on empty from the super bowl week, had a blast, got to play golf. Saw our friend Ricky Elliott.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Hank]

Played around with golf with him. One of the most. I mean, he's just. He's the best. One of the most enjoyable runs of golf. I've played. Played some sick horses, had a great time, lost my voice.

[PFT Commenter]

Great time.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Excellent.

[Hank]

Nice weather.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, you. You basically. You went San Francisco straight to Orlando. You're. You're cooked.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I was home for like, I got home at 11:30. When I left the next morning at like 10.

[Big Cat]

You get sunburned.

[PFT Commenter]

You're cooked.

[Big Cat]

You look 10.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You need to sleep.

[Hank]

I was. I was putting on some sun.

[PFT Commenter]

When did you get back? Back today?

[Hank]

Like 7.

[PFT Commenter]

7Pm tonight. Damn, you're cooked.

[Big Cat]

Hanks in big time. I need a vacation for my vacation mode. Oh, yeah.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No, I just need one good night of sleep and I'll be good.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Ish.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you'll be fine.

[Hank]

I'll be on the road back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Your voice will be good by Tuesday.

[Hank]

Show all my friends, like, they have Monday off, and they're like, oh, yeah. Like, get home tonight and recover. Then we have tomorrow after recover, take tomorrow off.

[PFT Commenter]

Take a personal day.

[Max]

What's the weather like tomorrow?

[PFT Commenter]

It's beautiful, like 60 degrees.

[Big Cat]

60 here in Chicago.

[PFT Commenter]

Beautiful.

[Hank]

I will not be golfing tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft. How was your vacation?

[Big Cat]

My vacation was great. Thank you for asking. I had a blast. I got some nice sun. I saw a bunch of whales. Nice, like whales jumping out of the water and just real relaxed. I basically woke up every morning, started drinking beers and margaritas at about 10am and then sat by a pool or by a beach and then went back to sleep. And then I had to go and it all up. Maybe the most relaxing vacation ever on. On Friday. I just decided after breakfast. And I've been thinking about. I brought it up to you one time, big cat. A couple of months ago, I just quit pouches. Quit decided. Nick, I'm out on nicotine pouches. I'm out on all nicotine because I was in that zone where I was like feeling my pockets all the time. Like I couldn't go anywhere without knowing that I had some on me. And I just said, you know what? It. I'm just. I'm just not gonna have another one after my lunch today. And then I just kind of rode that. And so now I'm like, what would that be? Like, two days? Yeah, about two full days. Two and a half days off. It's not easy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna be more in on Lucy's to make up. Have.

[Big Cat]

Have enough for me. Yeah, yeah. Have enough for me.

[PFT Commenter]

Issue.

[Big Cat]

So my. My resolution is that I'm just gonna smoke cigarettes. That's it. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You've done this a million times. Vape to cigarette to.

[Big Cat]

I did that one time.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's how I quit vaping. I quit vaping.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank's resetting the play clock right now.

[Big Cat]

I did it one time, and I can tell you exactly when it was. I quit vaping by smoking cigarettes. Now I'm quitting all nicotine by. I only smoke. The only time I'm allowed to have nicotine is if I'm smoking an actual cigarette.

[PFT Commenter]

You quit dip to vape and then vape to cigarettes.

[Big Cat]

I'll give you the entire how it worked out. I quit dip to vape. I quit vape by smoking cigarettes. Right. I quit smoking cigarettes by nicotine pouches.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

And then I stayed on nicotine pouches.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

And now I just non stop stop. I. I usually fall asleep with one end.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

So I'm like, I'm out. I'm just gonna go cold turkey.

[PFT Commenter]

Except for the cigarettes.

[Big Cat]

So I'm going cold turkey. I haven't smoked a cigarette yet, but I'm saying, coming. I will smoke a cigarette, and that will be my. My release. But right now, I'm definitely. I'm in the throes of nicotine withdrawal, which you want to see some scary. You look it up online and you're like, people are telling me it's going to last for three, four weeks. Nah, all this stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

You're fine.

[Big Cat]

I'm just fine. I'm just fine.

[Hank]

You're smoking cigarettes.

[Big Cat]

I haven't smoked yet. I'm still. I'm. I'm telling you, I'm allowed to smoke a cigarette if I want one, but I don't want one or vape. I know I can't vape.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Can't vape, can't dip. None of that. But, you know, an occasional.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Marble red from time to time. It's not going to kill anybody.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

It is like the headache, jaw ache portion right now. It's not easy.

[PFT Commenter]

You'll get to it. You're built different. You're built different. How's the booth doing? How's everyone's vacation.

[Max]

Mine was. I had one day of vacation.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because you went to get ready for your wedding.

[Max]

Yeah, I just did wedding planning. I was there for like four days and I think I did three days of wedding planning. And then one day that I really. I really did vacation. Well, the one day that I got though. So that was nice.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, Max, it makes you feel a little bit better. I have. I've secured multiple pieces of your bachelor party and it's gonna be. We're gonna do a pmt, Max. Bachelor party in Vegas. I've gotten the suite in the rooms and a suite at the Sphere. It's gonna be sick.

[Max]

I'm. I'm excited.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna get some golf tee times. It's gonna be fun, Max. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Max]

I'm excited. I'm excited for the boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Bosco.

[Max]

The crew is so funny right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I've. I've. I've over invited knowing that people will say no. Like, I just threw an invite. I just threw an invite to Kiddo. When I saw him last week, he's like, I'm in. I was like, great. And I think I. I think I. My exact words were to Kittle. I was like, just bring all the boys. Like McCaffrey. He's like, yeah, man. The invites right now are Rosillo, Jerry o', Connell, Rico Bosco, Roan. I think Jerry o' Connell and Roan are your strongest yeses.

[Max]

I think Jerry o' Connell is my strongest.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry o' Connell already said that. He was clearing his hole.

[Max]

Yes, Jerry o', Connell, Roan. Out of none Barcelona employees. Jerry o' Connell will be the only one.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry o' Connell will probably like get there a day early.

[Big Cat]

But you're telling me that Jerry Okana, who's not allowed to watch like a full game of football is going to take.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he's gonna.

[Big Cat]

Multiple days. I hope so. I hope you're right.

[Max]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

You're calling him out or he's gonna.

[Hank]

Come to this office for the championship. Like last week of fantasy football, he.

[PFT Commenter]

Had to go to South Africa.

[Hank]

He left some. Or his wife laughs. And.

[Max]

You'Re going at him right now.

[PFT Commenter]

What's this? I like this.

[Big Cat]

What he did.

[PFT Commenter]

He had a tweet.

[Hank]

He tweets at me every day.

[Max]

He had a tootsie tweet.

[PFT Commenter]

I miss Jerry so much.

[Hank]

You guys act like he doesn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, you're right. He antagonizes Patriots went toe to toe with Seahawks and loss, Tiff went toe to toe to toe to toe. And Henny's finally won. Thank you for showing the tootsies, T. Tiffany. All right, so he's not gonna make it. No, Zach was.

[Max]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a good vacation? I did tons of quality time with the family.

[Jameis Winston]

Beers with the boys is a good time?

[PFT Commenter]

Hell, yes. Yeah, I did. I'd set no alarm. I drank all day, and then I had four straight days of ice cream Sundays.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you got to do. I do vacation gelato. It's like every night. You got to do gelato.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. I. The last night, I was on a Sunday streak and they didn't have it on the menu.

[Big Cat]

So you.

[PFT Commenter]

And I asked him, I was like, can you do anything for me? He's like, I got you.

[Max]

I was talking to Pft. I was like, I actually ate pretty well. Like, when you're on an island, you just have a ton of fish and, like, you go to nice restaurants and you just eat healthy things. And then he was like, how many pina coladas did you have? And I was like, well, that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like I had ceviche for lunch. I had like a nice yogurt parfait for breakfast. Yeah. And then I didn't really eat so much at dinner because I'd been out in the sun drinking all day and. And only had, you know, like a small steak. But then you think back, oh, yeah, I went, beer, margarita, beer, margarita, beer, Margarita for about 11 hours today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. I also.

[Big Cat]

Listen, it worth it.

[PFT Commenter]

I also almost ended up in Cayman island jail, which would have been awesome for the pot.

[Big Cat]

Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Going into the Cayman Islands. I think I got. I think I got. Can you get racially profiled for being a chill ass dude? Because I think that's what happened to me. Me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I get that in airports a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, The. The guy going through customs just went deep into my bag. And I had the double whammy of him first asking. He was like, do you smoke weed? And I was like, yeah. Like, I'm not a loser, dude. And then he's like, it's very illegal in the Cayman Islands. And then he asked me what I do, and I was like, podcaster. And it. At that moment, it clicked in my head. I was like, I could be in some deep right here. Yeah, that combo is not good. It.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you don't want to say podcaster to a. A foreign agent. They don't really understand or respect the profession.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he went getting the deep. The Deep into the bag search is scary just because you're like, I don't even know what. Like, it's a back. You know when you have a backpack that you just carry around, you don't know what's actually in it half the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I had one of those moments, like, I don't know what's in this. Like, well, let's just find out together, dude.

[Big Cat]

I found a couple gummies in my backpack. But no one. No one searches your. For bringing stuff into Mexico, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was fine. What I did.

[PFT Commenter]

When I searched your. Going into Cayman Islands, I had no idea. When I held up my pill bottle that had maybe some gummies in it. And if he had opened it, I could have been in jail, which would have been a hilarious story.

[Big Cat]

When I went to Qatar, I bought new luggage before that trip just for that exact reason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because I was like, that's. That seems like a country where you might just die in jail.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you get caught. So I've carried a lot of stuff in my bags over the. Over the years. So let's just. Let's take a clean one. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It did feel like entrapment, though, for him to be like, do you smoke weed? And I was like, yeah, dude, of course I do. He's like, do you know it's very illegal? Like, that was. That was not fair.

[Big Cat]

Did you know it's actually not that cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What the hell? It's like, imagine if I said no. And then he laughed in my face. Was like, you don't smoke at all, loser. You're looking for the Cayman Islands underneath Cuba. Yeah. I had no idea where it was either. I was sitting in the front seat of the. They drive on the wrong side of the road. Always you up, up. When you sit in the front seat.

[Big Cat]

They gotta find Cuba first, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Cuba. Cuban.

[Max]

It's right there. It says Cayman Islands.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But waking up with no alarm is the best. I. I haven't done that in a very, very long time. And it was.

[Max]

I had an alarm every day.

[PFT Commenter]

Also Pet a shitload of stingrays. I still got it. Went to, like, a stingray where they. Like all the boats. Basically the most touristy thing you can do where all the boats are just. Just anchored and they're just feeding the stingrays and stingrays just everywhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Petting them left and right, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't go anywhere. I did nothing.

[Big Cat]

It was the best.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. I love that for you. I actually love that for you.

[Big Cat]

You went on a Couple walks, though.

[PFT Commenter]

I went on so many walks. Yeah. And Shane, you went to Hawaii. What's up? You went to Hawaii? Yes, sir. And you brought back gifts.

[Big Cat]

I did.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so we got a little something for everybody. So first thing, I don't know if Hank's wearing it right now. I got him a. Yeah, the whale tail necklace. Nice. I got.

[Big Cat]

I'll just go in order here for what I pick up.

[PFT Commenter]

I got Colton these. I asked Colton and the others kind of like what they like. I got Colton to two spam stickers from, like, a local artist. Okay. Stickers. Yep. From a farmer's marker. Name is Peachy, underscore kawhi. All right. No free shout outs. We'll bleep that. She's really nice. I got, I got Zach. He loves. He, he liked to collect, like, playing cards. So I got him two different types of of cards. One's an actual deck of cards. One I thought was a deck of cards. It's just like a Hawaii card game. It just pictures of Hawaii. That's sick. That's like basically going bolt up.

[Big Cat]

I got, I got Max a passion.

[PFT Commenter]

Fruit wasabi dressing.

[Max]

Love that he randomly texted me the other day and was like, do you like jelly or dressing? And I was like, this sounds like, this sounds like a bit of like a game that you were playing with your girlfriend. You drew a card of, like, text your boss a thing that, where you can be like, like, can you jelly this dick down your mouth or something.

[Big Cat]

That's a good thing.

[Max]

So I just said, I refuse to answer this question.

[PFT Commenter]

Instead, he used you're. Are you the only person who got food?

[Max]

This is salad dressing.

[PFT Commenter]

I got jack cookies. Oh, okay. Some chocolate chip.

[Max]

His reasoning was, he was like, I, I, I could see you eating salad more than I could see you eating jam.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, well, I've just seen him eat salad more than I've seen him eat, like, toast with toast with jelly. I got pft. The, the necklace that he's wearing right now as well. I got him a pretty sweet shirt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the shirts and a shirt. You said the most colorful one they had.

[PFT Commenter]

I, yeah, they were selling like eight dollar shirts. I was like, I'm just gonna pick out the most colorful one there is.

[Big Cat]

Colorful shirt. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I got big cat. Can I run this into you? Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

I got a necklace and a shirt.

[Big Cat]

What's that shirt that you're wearing right now?

[Hank]

Just a necklace.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft's been wearing anal beads. This whole shit. Joe, these are not, these are not an dude all right, I got. I'm opening this. All right.

[Big Cat]

These are beetle nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's a. It's a hook. Like Moana. Maui. Maui's hook.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[Jameis Winston]

That's.

[Max]

That's great game.

[PFT Commenter]

Maui's hook, huh?

[Jameis Winston]

Shane.

[Max]

Maui's hook.

[PFT Commenter]

Shane from Moana.

[Big Cat]

And boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Love it. Yes. Moana. Maui to the Pope. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's going up. Speaking of Po, where the is my.

[Jameis Winston]

We're having the pope on.

[Max]

We're having a pope game next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Villanova, Notre Dame.

[Big Cat]

Guys, I got you guys a present.

[PFT Commenter]

That's by the way, the lottery ball machine. That sounds like a lawnmower.

[Big Cat]

I got the boys a present in Mexico.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So in Mexican pharmacies, they sell Toradol, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And so I got. I got the boys some Toradol. I don't know if it's actually street legal to have back in the United States. Don't care. Brought it back. We've only got four capsules.

[PFT Commenter]

What does meme say? No. He's saying no to Max. Max. No. Mac. Wait, is it four capsules is one shot for no.

[Big Cat]

Four servings. Oh, yeah. So what we're gonna have to do here is we're gonna save these and whoever the guys on the podcast to have the first four bad injuries.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, we're going. We need to determine whether or not it's a tortoise worthy.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we should do. I think we should do one episode where we all take Toradol and the listeners have to figure out if it was a tordol episode.

[Big Cat]

That's also not a bad idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, we'll just randomly do a tour at all episode. We're not going to tell you. And you just got to be like, yeah, that was Tortol. And then if it's such a good episode, we just have to become addicted to it.

[Big Cat]

But then I was thinking, like, what if we do that? Something like that. We take it recreationally and then the day after we both get kidney stones. We're like, I really wish we had the Torah.

[PFT Commenter]

All true, true. I think we should do blind Tora doll.

[Big Cat]

You think we should all up to all episode.

[PFT Commenter]

You should save it. Actually, we should save it for after the bachelor party.

[Big Cat]

For the bachelor party, someone's gonna. Someone's gonna need this. If I know something about this podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe for the bachelor party when we play golf that Sunday, we're gonna need it.

[Big Cat]

But I feel like. So there's four of these. We need people to sign. Like, we have to agree Like, Hank can't be like, oh, I have a sore throat.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

I might as well take the Toradol. Makes you feel good. Yeah.

[Hank]

I'll just. You tell me if I need it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. You kind of need it right now. Put it in his neck.

[Big Cat]

Right you are, Dr. Hank. Thank you. I want one right now.

[Hank]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you won't. Sleep Mechanics, will you be wired.

[Big Cat]

Anyways, you can just buy this stuff in Mexico. Rocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Great to be back. Let's do numbers 56, 1, 23 for MJ. Grabbing that kid's shirt that he knows well. 29, big dump. 47, 88, 86.

[Big Cat]

That scared me. 93.

[PFT Commenter]

And I did get Memes coffee. Oh, you got Memes coffee, right. Thank you, Shane. Thank you, Shannon.

[Big Cat]

Memes. What kind of anal beads do you use? Pretty thick. These would be giant anal beads.

[PFT Commenter]

37.

[Max]

37.

[PFT Commenter]

Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

[Big Cat]

Denny Woodhead?

[PFT Commenter]

N. Anyone? You have one more? No, I kind of like that we none of us have. It's going to be. No, I like it. I like it.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday to Jerry o'. Connell.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's his birthday today.

[Big Cat]

On Tuesday.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

There's not gonna be a show on Tuesday. Happy birthday, Jerry. Happy birthday, Jerry. Hey, Jerry, we'll see you in just a little bit for Max's bachelor party.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you want to say happy birthday? It's Shane's birthday, too, apparently. Shane, your birthday's today? Yeah. Sunday. Yep.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday. What the.

[Max]

Shane, it's today.

[PFT Commenter]

Today.

[Jameis Winston]

Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, Happy birthday, dude.

[Jameis Winston]

Thanks, bro.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday. Hey, Shane, thanks for the gift on your birthday.

[Big Cat]

I got you some Torah at all.

[Jameis Winston]

Perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys don't celebrate each other's birthdays. That's what we don't do. We don't do that as men.

[Max]

I. I say you got your decades.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Absolutely. Happy birthday, Shane.

[Jameis Winston]

Thanks, fellas.

[PFT Commenter]

That's kind of on the birthday guy. Not. Yeah, it's your fault. That's all. PFD's fault. That's his fault.

[Big Cat]

That's my fault. That's the birthday guy.

[PFT Commenter]

You're doing birthdays from two days from.

[Big Cat]

Now as the birthday.

[Jameis Winston]

Right there.

[Big Cat]

I wrote down this Jerry o' Connell one, like, a month ago. I was like, I don't want to forget the Jerry o' Connor one. And I forgot about my guy Shane. My bad. Shane.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's all good. Understandable.

[Big Cat]

That's why you're a great guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Hope you like those beads.

[Big Cat]

I do love these beads. You ask your chair, they smell funny. Love you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

It.