Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

Summary

Pardon My Take Episode Summary
Episode Title: Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old
Release Date: January 29, 2025

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1. Welcome and Guest Introduction

The episode kicks off with hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter warmly welcoming their special guest, Jerry O'Connell, who joins them on the "Hot Seat." The primary focus is to evaluate Jerry's potential as their fantasy football coach. (01:01)

2. Super Bowl 59 Analysis and NFL Coaching Discussions

Big Cat and PFT Commenter dive deep into the anticipation surrounding Super Bowl 59, emphasizing the intense rivalry between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles.

• Sean McDermott’s Performance:
  Big Cat expresses confidence in retaining Sean McDermott as the Eagles' head coach, stating, "Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now the dust has been settled." (04:00)
  PFT Commenter concurs, highlighting McDermott's playoff performances: "He's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs." (04:03)

• Andy Reid’s Journey:
  The conversation shifts to Andy Reid, noting his career trajectory from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Kansas City Chiefs and his upcoming Super Bowl clash against his former team. (04:10)

• Defensive Strategies:
  Jerry critiques the Chiefs' defensive strategies, mentioning Vic Fangio's history against Patrick Mahomes and questioning the efficacy of certain defensive plays. (08:07)

3. Fantasy Football Season Recap with Jerry O'Connell

Jerry O'Connell provides a comprehensive recap of the fantasy football season, discussing team performance, key trades, and player statistics.

• Trade Decisions:
  Jerry admits to a pivotal trade decision that impacted his team's success: "At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight-up trade for AJ Brown. We had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down, and that is why we lost." (74:09)

• Player Performance and Draft Strategies:
  He evaluates various players, emphasizing the importance of drafting players who excel in multiple aspects, such as Derrick Henry and Mark Andrews. (76:03)
  Jerry also discusses potential future drafts, highlighting players like Tyreek Hill and Calvin Ridley, and stresses the significance of versatile players in fantasy football. (83:25)

• Managerial Responsibilities:
  Addressing his role as a fantasy manager, Jerry states, "I have to set boundaries. I won't work with someone else. It's just the three of us." (140:16)

4. NFL Team Analysis and Player Movements

The discussion broadens to cover various NFL teams, coaching changes, and player movements impacting the upcoming season.

• Coaching Hires and Strategies:
  Big Cat and PFT Commenter analyze new coaching hires, like Liam Coen, and their potential impact on team dynamics and performance. (23:12)
  Jerry critiques certain coaching approaches, suggesting improvements and highlighting successful strategies. (37:59)

• Player Trades and Acquisitions:
  The hosts discuss rumors of significant player trades, such as Kellen Moore potentially coaching the Saints and the implications for team structures. (30:00)
  They also speculate on the future of players like Josh Allen, emphasizing the Chiefs' dominance and questioning the NFL's integrity when discussing perceived rigging. (21:35)

5. Getting Old: Personal Reflections on Aging

Towards the latter part of the episode, the conversation shifts to personal reflections on aging, health, and maintaining athleticism.

• Physical Changes and Health Concerns:
  Big Cat and Hank share their experiences with physical ailments like plantar fasciitis and the challenges of maintaining athletic performance past their prime.
  PFT Commenter discusses the onset of more severe hangovers and increased anxiety associated with aging. (154:02)
  Jerry humorously engages in this topic, discussing the inevitability of aging and its impact on performance both in sports and personal life. (157:08)

• Mental Adjustments and Lifestyle Changes:
  The hosts debate the psychological aspects of aging, such as reduced enthusiasm for high-energy activities and the importance of adjusting expectations and lifestyles accordingly.
  They humorously touch upon topics like yoga, increased caution to prevent injuries, and the shifting priorities that come with age. (158:25)

6. Interactive Segments and Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, interactive segments like "Hot Seat, Cool Throne" and personal anecdotes enhance listener engagement.

• "Hot Seat, Cool Throne":
  This segment features playful banter about obtaining NFL playoff tickets through Game Time, emphasizing ease and guaranteed delivery. (39:08)

• Listener Stories:
  PFT Commenter shares a personal story about his wardrobe being stolen, leading to humorous discussions about fashion makeovers and dealing with unexpected life events. (52:00)

7. Closing Remarks and Future Outlook

As the episode concludes, the hosts reflect on their ongoing journey, the evolution of their podcast, and their commitment to providing entertaining content despite the challenges of aging and changing listener demographics.

• Continued Commitment:
  Big Cat expresses optimism about the show's future, stating, "I still love doing the show. I want to do it forever." (158:57)
  They acknowledge the varying ages of their listeners and the importance of adapting while maintaining their unique humor and perspective. (159:35)

Notable Quotes

• Big Cat on Sean McDermott:
  "Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now the dust has been settled." (04:00)

• PFT Commenter on Andy Reid:
  "Andy Reid... he was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles. Then he went to Kansas City, and now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl." (04:10)

• Jerry O'Connell on Fantasy Football Trades:
  "At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight up trade for AJ Brown. We had Joe Mixon and I turned it down and that is why we lost." (74:09)

• Big Cat on Aging:
  "I've been thinking about it because we've been doing this for so long. People have just gotten older with us." (158:57)

• Hank on Physical State:
  "I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out. I'm approaching my athletic prime." (162:28)

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This episode of "Pardon My Take" offers a blend of in-depth NFL analysis, insightful fantasy football strategies, and relatable conversations about aging and personal growth. With Jerry O'Connell's candid participation, listeners gain valuable perspectives on managing a fantasy team, navigating NFL dynamics, and embracing the inevitable changes that come with time—all delivered with the show's signature humor and camaraderie.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Jerry O'Connell in studio. He's on the hot seat. We're going to find out if he can be our fantasy GM or manager. No, coach. He's our coach.

[PFT Commenter]

He is. He's at the top of the food chain for right now.

[Big Cat]

For right now. Great time with Jerry in studio. We're going to talk a little introductory press conference around the NFL. Maybe a little early thoughts on the super bowl where Max's head is at. We have hot seat, cool throne and then we're do guys on chicks questions about getting old because this is the last show you'll listen to us as 39 year olds and that's scary. But you know what's not scary? The big game. The Super Bowl. It's coming up the same little itty bitty tiny bowl. This is the Super Bowl 59. Get in on the action. DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the Super Bowl 59. Scoring touchdowns is key to hoisting the Vince Lombardi trophy. And you have a shot to score big by betting on them at DraftKings Sportsbook, the number one place to bet touchdowns. Ready to place your first bet? Try betting on something simple like a player. To score six, go to the DraftKings Sportsbook app and make your pick. New DraftKings customers can bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get $200 in bonus bets instead instantly when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings Sportsbook, the crown is yours.

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's go.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I love guys who like football, and.

[Big Cat]

Guys who like football, they like me back.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I like them back.

[Big Cat]

And even guys that don't like football, they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football, football, football. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get 200 in bonus bets instantly when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings sportsbook, the crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, January 29th, and, boys, the dust is settled. From the championship Sunday, we got a Super bowl to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now the dust has been settled.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think he should be.

[Big Cat]

Fired, but that has been the discourse.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a. He's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those. Those losses. Just stay with a man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Andy Reid, you know what happened to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Big Cat]

You fired?

[PFT Commenter]

He fired him. Then he went to Kansas City, and now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. How are you feeling? Pft. I know. Obviously, Sunday sucked for you. Yeah, I think Monday probably sucked as well.

[PFT Commenter]

I. When I woke up on Monday, I felt better just from the second I opened my eyes and I. I posted a meme about it, and I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's two. The two guys on the bus meme.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

One is really pissed off, doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations. I than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. I said it to you right after the game. I was like the own. You know, I was. I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that. And I was like, the only spin zone is if it were a Bills situation or, you know, like a weird call or penalty or like a dropped ball, a Mark Andrews. That's. Those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks. This one, it's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm still not happy about the result of the game, but. And I'm also not doing the thing where I, I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look. Look at this team. That's the worst team Jaden's ever going to have. You never know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Weird things happen in the NFL all the time. So I, I've also realized, and this is my fault for not realizing before the game. That was the post Lions week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And every team gets their ass kicked. Post Lions. So the Eagles didn't really even beat us, the Lions. We just had delayed onset getting beaten by the Lions.

[Big Cat]

So the Lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it happened with the Vikings too. The Vikings beat the Lions last game of the season. Lose to the Rams.

[Big Cat]

No, the Lions beat the Vikings.

[PFT Commenter]

Lions beat the Vikings.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But they play and then they end up losing afterwards.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So congratulations to the Lions for beating us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, they. They actually won that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but you know, it. It's not a good feeling. Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah, I would say so. Well, I'm doing okay, Max.

[Max]

Yeah. I'm on the Kansas City, but I'm back on. On being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Oh, now it's bad.

[Max]

Now it's back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It sounds like there's another addition to the list.

[Max]

Yeah, no. Oh, yeah. Big time list.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh.

[Max]

Colin Coward said that. That the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the Chiefs defense is so good. That's mega list, by the way.

[Big Cat]

I've done some. We'll do a full preview next week. But I've. Our good friend Roan, I told him because we were talking about. He was saying like, you know, the Chiefs defense is really the chief's defense. A little overrated. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to dig into some numbers for You. But I'm going to say it.

[Max]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Big Cat]

Their rush defense has not been like incredible in the, in the back half. Now the problem is for the Chiefs, for you and the Chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better. Like, I don't think that. I think their defense is a little worse than people. I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average, and I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average. So it's still Patrick Mahomes. Does that make sense? That's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into. But I think their defense is a little bit worse. But their offense is a little bit better.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list because that's, that's what he wanted to have happened. He said that. So guys like you would be like Colin Coward. Let's talk about him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you fell for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you fell for it.

[Max]

I don't care. Mega list.

[Big Cat]

I did get tagged in a stat that you got upset about. Before I even said it, you were like, well, you're like.

[Max]

Your last big stat was that no quarterback.

[Big Cat]

That's not a stat. That was a curse. It was a potential curse. It was a 25 year curse. That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse. You don't believe.

[PFT Commenter]

Big difference, Max. For the, for the record, you do not believe in 25 plus year curses.

[Max]

I don't know where this. I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart man. Yep.

[Big Cat]

All right, Ryan. Hannibal did tweet and I got tagged in this. Max, it's not my fault that the awl's tagged me in this. They said something to note ahead of the Super Bowl. Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio has faced Patrick Mahomes eight times. Six with Denver, twice with Miami. His teams are.08 and Mahomes has thrown two 10 TDs and two interceptions in those games.

[Hank]

Now those prime Mahomes.

[Big Cat]

Well, also those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do.

[Max]

Denver was pretty good.

[Big Cat]

I mean, they weren't. The Eagles defense is very good, but. Yeah. Are you. Is that stat. Is that a stat worth jumping down my throat?

[Max]

I'm not worried about. About trends. That's a trend.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I got a trend. Big Cat. No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super bowl since 1985.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

But Max doesn't care about trends.

[Max]

But it's extra games.

[PFT Commenter]

I also have a trend.

[Big Cat]

Also have a trend. Every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the super bowl on this podcast that you. The Eagles have lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a trend.

[Max]

Incorrect. Incorrect. We beat them in the regular season last year.

[Big Cat]

Next. I said in the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Max]

I missed that.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it. I love that you're on edge.

[Max]

That was a little boy ass play game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Sirianni doing the tunnel thing and then it all fell apart.

[Max]

No, it was. No, it was Travis Kelsey little boy ass play.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. No, but. Yeah, but wasn't that the game when Sirianni was in the tunnel after being like, how do you like us now? And then they lost every game after.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Nick Sirianni. Good. Coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Have we got any media requests for Max during the week of the Super Bowl?

[Max]

Zero meteor.

[Big Cat]

Oh, come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, people.

[Big Cat]

Max. I'll also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on radio row as well.

[PFT Commenter]

And get two guests for the price of one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was not a weight joke. That was just two teams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Head, I have a question for you because there's a take that is. It's riling people up online.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had two defenders from the Kansas City Chiefs in his face?

[Big Cat]

Are you talking about Khalil Shakir?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. He was running the little merry go round play in the backfield.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't now. I didn't play in the NFL. It felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do. But I actually think Ben Solick is good at his job. And I like his. His film analysis. He. Holy shit. Was that an overreaction for people who missed it? He. He basically broke down the play and was like, josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the backside. But if you watch the play, it's like that's. He had a chief in his face.

[PFT Commenter]

Not if you simply flip your hips.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta flip your hips and make the throw.

[Hank]

But he did make the throw.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did make a good. He made an incredible throw.

[Hank]

He made the play happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's the real story is Dalton Kincaid, I feel like, is getting left off at least little bit too easy just because it's easier to be like, Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Mahomes.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he should have flipped his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown. Yeah, the touchdown was open on that play.

[Big Cat]

But. But. So Ben Solic did a film breakdown, and then it was almost like it was essentially the anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight, and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL. Linemen, quarterbacks, and. And then Ryan Leaf showed up and was like, ah, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote, quote, treating Ben Solic. He said, this right here is why, in full transparency, you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass. You work at espn. Call Alex, call Dan, call Timmy. H. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had. I'm serious, though. Someone go rough this kid up. See if he throws the orbit.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

It was like. It was. It was basically because it was everyone. It was, you know, like. And all these people I. I respect, and I. I think Ben probably did minimize how easy of. Or how difficult of a throw that was. But it's. It's also like you're having a discussion about a game. Like, that's. That's the whole point of Twitter. You talk about the game, you break down the game. But it was like, Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[PFT Commenter]

Fitzy was nice to him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I. I love your passion. Which is actually the meanest thing you can say.

[Hank]

But he was a horrible take.

[PFT Commenter]

He said it like he was like the proper Harvard man that he was. That's Fitz's version of saying, somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass.

[Big Cat]

But the correct take was that the Bills didn't slide their protection correctly because Spags was doing one blitz all game, and then he. And then he flipped it on him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think there were two things working against Ben Solak, and, yeah, he is good at what he does. But number one, he used the dots. His initial take used the. The overhead.

[Big Cat]

Use the dots.

[PFT Commenter]

They use the overhead dots and the overhead. I don't know who likes watching the dots. It's all the, like, film nerd people. You don't. You don't like football if you like watching the dots.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or maybe. Maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field. What's your favorite album of all time?

[Big Cat]

Big Cat probably. Oh, probably Third Eye Blind. Self titled. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Third Eye Blinds. If you hadn't heard it.

[Big Cat]

I was under pressure. I was under pressure. I was gonna maybe go sublime.

[PFT Commenter]

Sublime.

[Big Cat]

I was also maybe gonna go Good Choices, the band. Self titled. Okay, let's say that was hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's say. Let's say Prince, Purple Rain.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You've never heard it, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Sublime. Sublime.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Sublime. Sublime. You've never heard the Battle ballad of Johnny Butt? You've never heard Wrong Way. You've never heard Caress Me Down? I come up to you and I'm like, big Cat, I think you're going to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what looking at the dots is.

[Big Cat]

How sick was for football.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots. That's strike one. And then strike two. His profile pick that he had was a bat signal for football jocks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film. Dorks that are sitting at home, they're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before for.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think every film nerd should have to on video, let a guy just get right in their face.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like have a guy come in their face.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Like not, you know, like physically.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, physically.

[PFT Commenter]

Like impose their will on them in his face. And then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face.

[Big Cat]

Also just maybe grow a mustache.

[PFT Commenter]

That helps, too.

[Big Cat]

That always helps. The funny thing is Kurt Warner. Ever heard of him? Super bowl mvp. MVP of the league. He actually kind of agreed with Ben. Not that the. That Shakir was there, but more that it was. The discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been, how did the Bills not get the right protection, have a plan for that type of blitz? And again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw. Dalton Kincaid, I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you always say, Hank?

[Hank]

If you can touch it, you can catch it.

[Big Cat]

Yep. I do feel bad for Bills fans because that's. It's how we started the show. You were able to bounce back, relatively speaking, because of the ass kicking. Bills fans are going to spend a neck the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and every.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to Force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball is, where the first downline is, and then. And then replying to every popular tweet using my photoshopped lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong. Yeah, but you have to do that if you're a Bulls fan.

[Big Cat]

And again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached and they make big because I was also watching. So it was that Spags blitz, which was an incredible blitz, perfectly timed. And this is what the Chiefs do. They should make big plays. The other one, which I didn't notice, obviously in real time, but the Mahomes designed run for the touchdown to go up 7. It was very cool because they basically ran. They looked exactly like a run going left and all the Bills crashed left. I think they pulled a guard and then Mahomes just went right and it's like the. I think, I think it was. Rousseau said they had not run that play all year. The Chiefs had not run that play all year. I think Mahomes had one designed run all year. And he's like, we watched all the film that never showed up. That's coaching. That's Andy Reid being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's going to come down to one possession. We got to. We got to throw a few things at them that they've never seen before. And that's what they did. And that's why the Chiefs are in the super bowl and Mahomes going for.

[PFT Commenter]

A three peat spin zone for Bills fans. The last time I remember this much. Breakdown of 1/4 down slash, 1st down slash, referees getting involved. And the spot might be incorrect. It was the Michigan, Ohio State game right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right. Well, there's a little bit of bottoming out. But then.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then. But then they were back. Yeah, yeah, then they were back big time.

[Big Cat]

We also might get a microchip now.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So the microchip. I love the chain gang. I love the sticks. I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines sometimes. That's always fun too. But I like the idea. I love it. If there's a close play, they stop the clock real quick. The chain gang comes out onto the field. There's that moment of anticipation. Then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down. It's like another play that's Built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about. I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be like, we can measure this better.

[Big Cat]

But again, it comes down to. And. And whatever. Throw that play. Throw. Throw the. Throw the refs out of that. It came down to. I saw the stat that the Chiefs. I think that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper on a QB sneak, like, in a lot of years. Three times they stuffed it. Why were you running that three times? Especially in a play that by design, you don't know where the ball is. The ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 50, 50 call for the ref. And you're leaving that up to it on a play that you aren't able to get those yards. That's where I was. I said it on Sunday night. Like, go ahead and blame the refs if you want to. That was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs. That just didn't feel smart.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just like talking about microchips.

[PFT Commenter]

It.

[Big Cat]

And I also like. Whenever someone's like, we were able to do this, but not this. It also get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's.

[Big Cat]

Those are my favorite arguments.

[PFT Commenter]

So the microchip would exist in the. In the middle of the ball. Right. So how would you know?

[Big Cat]

I thought. And this is. Maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it. I thought they would wrap it in a microchip.

[PFT Commenter]

The ball would be made out of microchip kind of. And shiny on the outside.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It would be one of those like. Like the tin foil. And then they heat it up and it. And it envelopes it.

[PFT Commenter]

If. If you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pig skin, he's going to try to eat it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So be on the lookout for that. But there. There should be a way if. If you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip. But I. I love the chain gang. It's one of the things about football that's just. It's tradition. And you shouldn't try to. Don't make the NFL into the NBA.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate.

[Big Cat]

And. And the Chiefs made a couple more plays than the Bills made.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's that's what it came down to. Yeah.

[Hank]

Going back to the beginning of the show. If this exact scenario had happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo situation, would you be saying the same thing about the mic?

[PFT Commenter]

I would.

[Big Cat]

That's not how fancy.

[PFT Commenter]

I would be me. I would be pulling a memes at the NFL front office right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would be in New York and ready for the.

[Big Cat]

If that happened to the Bears, I'd be writing letters to Congress.

[PFT Commenter]

I would never turn 40 if that happened.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I would. I would be letting. Writing letters to Congress and like self funding microchip data.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but I would. But my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls would be we have to replay that game. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would move to Taiwan and start my, my own semiconductor company.

[Big Cat]

I mean I, if, if that happened, if, if that, if I were a Bills fan, I would probably, I'd probably just walk around with a picture of the, of the, of the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me and I would just be. It'd be like showing like you're a picture of your kids or your dog. Just like, you want to see this? Did you see what happened years later? I'd be like, did you guys see this?

[PFT Commenter]

Remember that movie Psychic Pride? I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo that image onto his body so he had to look at it every single day.

[Big Cat]

I. I'd Clockwork Orange him. I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Severance. Make him apologize into a screen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. A thousand times to your future self, Roger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But yeah. Stop complaining, Bill fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, you can't.

[Big Cat]

No. I'm just kidding.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep complaining.

[Big Cat]

Definitely keep complaining.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep complaining. Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give that up.

[Big Cat]

I think it's more. I think Bill's fans keep complaining. I think non. Like if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs, fucking move on. And stop saying the NFL's rigged. Yeah. Again, you pointed out the NFL's rigged. Just bet everything on the Chiefs. It's rigged. If it's rigged. If you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every. Every single year.

[PFT Commenter]

And I love the people that, that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a sports company.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

And then that proved that, that it's, it's 100% rigged. Which if you're looking for, if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with. They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short.

[Big Cat]

We need Taylor Swift in the super bowl again. There was. There was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate one person saying, I'm going to give you too bad, Big Cat. I kind of give you a pass because it's your job. But at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt. It would be a big statement for all of barstool sports to take a stand here and boycott.

[PFT Commenter]

Boycott the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Boycott. I. I'll say this loud and clear. I'm. I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl. It's the last football game of the year. And anyone who says they're not going to watch the super bowl, you're a fucking liar. That's. You're just a liar. You're going to watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl. You're going to fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday. They literally named a Sunday after it. And you're going to open your eyes and you're going to watch that game.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was that that said that?

[Big Cat]

Tram 2022.

[PFT Commenter]

Tram 2022 is right. As a company.

[Big Cat]

Noted. Noted. Paul Watcher.

[PFT Commenter]

As a company, Tram. I think that we should all boycott the Pro bowl games.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We've done this, I think, four or five years in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm going to. I'm ready to do it, but I'm doing it this year for Tram. Yeah, I'm not going to watch.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Are they going to do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw?

[Big Cat]

I won't watch.

[PFT Commenter]

I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out.

[Big Cat]

I'll. I won't watch at least some part of the Pro bowl games.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that feels right. That feels right.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll show them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. We should talk about some coach introductions. So, Liam Cone. Whoa. That guy's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like him.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he's. He. I like him in the fact that, like, I can't look away when he did the Duvall and he did the double eyebrow raise.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that. We were hanging out in the gambling cave. He's like, so that, that Jaguars coach, he's. That was AI. Right.

[Big Cat]

Like, seriously, like AI.

[PFT Commenter]

He was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell, like, that was AI.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's, no, that's, that's him. That's Liam Cone. And it's, it's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every single Jaguar's loss.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media.

[Big Cat]

Negative aura.

[PFT Commenter]

That's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohen until I see him do something even weirder.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Shots, explosives, eyes. Like, there's a lot of things that, that if you do the first, your first press conference, if you say it, or your first introduction to the world. Dave Canalis book.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's just a lot of things, like he. And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up, Max. Of him talking about honesty is the best policy. That was very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because I, I, I said on Sunday, I, I have, I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled it better, but I think football is, like, everyone's got to look out for themselves. But it's just very, like, insanely unselfaware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you lied to the entire Bucks organization. Here it is. And that's, that's really what this is going to come down to, is honesty. I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths, be able to show you your blind spots, because that's really, like I mentioned, where growth occurs and when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror, knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right, and the results will speak for themselves.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of love the idea, though, of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just a guy that's, that's actually a snake. A guy that's dirty. Like, the perfect Florida man. I want, I want him to, like, go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr. Try to get 90 bucks for him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I want him to get paid in scratch off tickets.

[Big Cat]

I want to do a video with the, the Jags. The viral Jags woman.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, they need to do that. The. He also, he also dropped an acronym. That's always a no no in the NFL. I feel like that's just maybe a college college acronyms kind of work. But his acronym is FAST and it stands for fundamentally sound Attacking Situational Masters Tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Situational Masters is a good one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. I mean it, I, I, my acronym point. I mean, Matt Eberflus had a acronym, and it was the HITS principle and the T and HITS standed for the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, I remember that on the wall.

[Big Cat]

Situational Masters. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I want to know what that means.

[Big Cat]

Why could it be situational football?

[PFT Commenter]

Just why are you getting situational Awareness Masters? Because they want to be masters of situations fundamentally sound.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like just be fundamental. Attacking Situational football. Tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sounds better than Situational Masters and fundamentally sound Tough ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Then it would be S, A, F, T, B. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Can you pull up Saturday? I want to see him explain the acronym. The Jaguars posted it. And listen, I will, I will say this. In defense of the Jaguars, when Dan Campbell did his introductory press conference, people laughed at it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

People said that was crazy. They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot. Like, they're not going to win any games. He turns out to be Max. Is he a winning coach? A winning coach?

[Max]

I wasn't paying attention.

[Big Cat]

Dan Campbell, winning coach.

[Max]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so he turns out to be a winning coach. So you can't fully base every. It's like one of those. Every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press conference.

[PFT Commenter]

Really bad. I remember when, when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins, he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator before coach the game as the oc he was promoted to head coach. In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon and black of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Of the team. And so from that point on, you just were like, I don't really trust this guy. 100. But with Dan Campbell.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

He, he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference. But the first thing that people bring up usually with Dan Campbell is like, yeah, you know, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They still talk.

[Big Cat]

It became a positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was at the time it, it was laughed at for sure. Okay. This is, this is Liam Cohen's acronym. It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great offense, defense, and Special teams, how do we want to play the game? And that's fast, fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters and tough, both mentally and physically. You see players in the room right here, guys that I've had conversations with already. It will always be about you. So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his. His face was put on incorrectly.

[Max]

He sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he sounds like he's giving a TED Talk about coaching a football team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

If you play that back and think about a guy on stage in, like, a leather jacket with one of those microphones that attaches to his chin. And now listen to him. This is a TED Talk.

[Big Cat]

It's also. It's also just crazy because all you had to say was, we want our players to play fast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You don't have to do an acronym for it. Yeah, fast is good. Fast is.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the faster you are, the faster you're out of position if you're not a situational.

[Big Cat]

That's true. Good point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Think about TED Talk.

[Big Cat]

It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we want to play the game? And that's fast. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This guy's looking for funding.

[Big Cat]

This is. This is south by Southwest. They're going to be like, hey, we're going to do a presentation on football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

First we're going to bring out. Elon's going to host this panel about football. Guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, I'll say this. It works in the Jack for the Jags, just because it's kind of a. Hilarious. Just visual and everything. And he could be a. He could end up being a head coach. But if you were a Bucks fan that was upset feelings, hurt, crying, being a baby. Stephen Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you feel good. You feel good. But I hope it works out for the Jaguars. Max, I have a question for you about the Birds.

[Max]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Rumors on the street are that Kellen Moore might be the next coach of the Saints. How do you feel about that?

[Big Cat]

Will the Saints get a coach?

[Max]

I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago. It is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCarthy. What?

[PFT Commenter]

Alarming? Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, did they? I didn't even know they did a second interview with them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they flew into Philly. Yeah, they went there. Kind of a thirsty move by the Saints.

[Max]

No, it's.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[Max]

I mean, we Lose our coordinator. Jalen Hurts has had eight different coordinators since he's, since he's been in the league. And I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years. So it's. That would suck. But you know, you got to worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters.

[Big Cat]

Are you worried that he's going to be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the.

[Max]

He just did his interview. He just did his second interview.

[Big Cat]

Could have been using. He could have been using that time for the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that maybe Sirianni is looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews and he's like, you know what, maybe I should take a more hands on approach. Maybe, maybe I could call a few players for the Super Bowl.

[Max]

No, but anti stat for you. Vangio. Guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Vangio.

[Big Cat]

Vangio. You said that's a new. If we get a new. If we get a new Van.

[PFT Commenter]

So yeah, it sounds like a Vic.

[Big Cat]

Vangio is actually a great fan name.

[Max]

Last year, Dolphins face Mahomes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points. And Mahomes threw for 180 yards in that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, anti stat.

[Max]

Most recent time he played.

[Big Cat]

I never said anything about the stat.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you just got anti stat.

[Big Cat]

No, but the stat I said is.

[PFT Commenter]

Still correct as a clean.

[Max]

I know, but you know, contacts. I'm adding more context to your stat. Contact stat.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

I was looking up during that whole Bills talk. I was looking up. I was looking up anti stats.

[Big Cat]

So what was one of the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in. So if we just went to seven games, he's owing seven, 10 touchdowns, two interceptions.

[Max]

No, there's a couple others, but that was the best. That was the most recent one. So that's why I use that one.

[PFT Commenter]

You just got Van Geo.

[Big Cat]

I got Van Go.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys, you guys, what are we.

[Max]

Talking about before this?

[PFT Commenter]

You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangio.

[Big Cat]

It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that like you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you. Yeah, there was a clip.

[PFT Commenter]

He'll be. And he'll be pacing around the room while you're gone, think here's a stat.

[Big Cat]

And be like, all right, hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes. Then when you come back, he's like, all right, I found It.

[Max]

There was. There was another clip that was going that was, like, going around Eagles Twitter was like, Chris Canty, he, like, got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hurts, and his producer, like, stepped. Stepped in. In the middle of it and corrected him. And, like, awful announcement was like, wow. One of the craziest things on I've ever seen on espn. Someone's producer coming in and correcting those.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn.

[Max]

Imagine.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, that producer is definitely a Birds fan, by the way.

[Max]

I think he was just like. I think he was like, I had Jalen hurts top 10 before the year. And his producer was like, yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year. I was like, this is my guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a Birds fan.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Max]

The fact that all for announcing was like, I've never seen anything like a producer.

[Big Cat]

No way. Max, is Brandon Graham going to play in the Super Bowl?

[Max]

He's active.

[Big Cat]

Wow. And what about Cam Jurgens and Landon Dickerson?

[Max]

Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, good.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Do you like that you're wearing green?

[PFT Commenter]

Not you. The.

[Big Cat]

He's already rattled. Like, you're already in super bowl mode where you're fighting stats. I just. For the podcast listener, I said, do you like that you're wearing green? And Max looked down at his own shirt. I meant the uniforms in the super bowl, dude.

[Max]

Yeah. Memes brought. Brought that up.

[Hank]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Max]

It's okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's not good.

[Big Cat]

Put that on a quote card.

[Max]

It's okay.

[Big Cat]

Max's thoughts on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay. Yeah.

[Max]

Memes keep saying it's 21 jump street 22 jump street saying. Meaning it's the same movie.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Max]

And I just keep saying It's Rocky 1. Rocky 2.

[PFT Commenter]

Mm. All right.

[Max]

But I don't know about. I don't think.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Right.

[Max]

I don't think they wore the same stuff. The same. The same trunks in both of those movies.

[PFT Commenter]

But you guys are wearing the same trunks. You're wearing white.

[Max]

We are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in Rocky 1. Rocky 2, they're wearing the same trunks.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're wearing. They're wearing green that they wore the same green they wore in the last Super Bowl. Correct. I believe that was.

[Max]

Yeah, it's same exact.

[Big Cat]

Same exact uniform matchup. Okay. Other coach hiring news. The Cowboys brought in Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference. We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this, that is smiles and glory holes. Very low percentage. Talking about just the business, he clarified.

[PFT Commenter]

Himself when he repeated very low percentage of the glory holes. This is the second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes. Maybe even third. I think he believes that a glory hole is a Super bowl window. To him, it's the same thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So when he's like, I want to get back to the glory hole days, I want me some glory hole. In his eyes, he's talking about being a championship team. But you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or two.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let me see.

[PFT Commenter]

Might also just be talking about an oil well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he could be. So I'm looking at. Wikipedia says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition, often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side. They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral, sexual. Trying to find if there's any. No glory holes. Go back all the way to 1707.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis, the two Toms going. Going at it in the glory hole.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there where Peeping Tom came from?

[Big Cat]

Maybe. So is. Is it anything, let's see. In popular culture. No. So, yeah. Is it, Is it an oil well?

[PFT Commenter]

In his mind it might be like, that is a glory hole.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Holehunter.com. i'm not gonna click on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

You just go up, you stick your deck in a hole.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Miners would use it. Somebody searchable for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold, oil or whatever natural resource you look.

[PFT Commenter]

There we go.

[Big Cat]

That's it. That's what he's talking.

[PFT Commenter]

He's talking about oil, guys.

[Big Cat]

No one has told him that glory hole means anything else.

[PFT Commenter]

He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also, Stephen Jones is getting kind of lambasted because he did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones. He's going to be the perfect Jones heir to have the Cowboys not have any success as well. But he was talking about the drought, the 30 year drought, super bowl and championship game drought. And he did air quotes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's just quotes.

[Big Cat]

It's just like you guys, dude, it is a drought.

[PFT Commenter]

The media has been obsessed with this so called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But drought. But it's, it's one of those It's a bad stat. It's a misleading stat. We've won several off seasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer and the whole crowd clapped for him. It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones, the executive vice president, and nobody clapped at all. And then one guy started clapping and then three other guys kind of clapped and they pretend to laugh.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. You know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here.

[Big Cat]

That's nice. Yeah, the Cowboys are. Are a fun watch of just. I mean, it's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach search.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they did, and they. When they talked to Pete Carroll, he called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottenheimer as their coach. And then they said. We also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach, but it was just. It was a fact finding call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Peter was probably very confused about that.

[Big Cat]

He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Probably not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, all right. Do we have anything else before we do? Hot seat, Cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

We're just not going to talk about the fact that Cardi B. Has pierced her butt crack.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I mean, no, No. I didn't know that happened. Yes, I want to talk about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. She announced that on x dot com, the everything app.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yesterday. So dot, dot, dot. I got my butt crack pierced.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Your thoughts?

[Big Cat]

How? How?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here? So she got the top. Oh, I see how that's actually. It's actually cute. I think that's cute.

[Big Cat]

Wiping has got to be tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. She's got a front to back.

[Big Cat]

Like, I didn't want to think about this with Cardi B. But here I am. It does. Okay. All right. So she got her butt cracked. She should have just done.

[Hank]

So I did a thing then.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Some personal news. And there's a picture of her not.

[Big Cat]

Rushmore punishment butt crack piercing.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in.

[Big Cat]

Just think about it.

[PFT Commenter]

You say stink about it.

[Big Cat]

Stink about it. We also just had a crazy college basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking, which is nuts. I've never seen that much puke on a basketball court.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And there's so many towels. And then Caleb Love, who is not good at basketball, but then hit a 60 footer to be good at BAS. He was 1 for 11 from 3 and then hit a 60 footer to go to overtime and win the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got those games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's. Yeah. What was the. It was like he puked and then fan passed out.

[PFT Commenter]

What's going on in Cameron from seeing the puke?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

It's hot.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Hank, my hot seat. Is he culture?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely. It seems like they're going to trade him.

[PFT Commenter]

How many times is that? Is this second, third suspension this year?

[Hank]

Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And they've just been playing. That doesn't sound like hardball, but it sounds like the heat. Pat Riley, you know, he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top.

[Big Cat]

Sixers.

[PFT Commenter]

Shouldn't the guy with the bigger dick end up on bottom? On top? It sounds painful.

[Big Cat]

Sixers there Is a rumor out there.

[Max]

Oh, no, I don't. I don't want him.

[Hank]

I mean, he's old, and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer. Can't even win. Won 1. Eastern Conference finals. 2.

[Big Cat]

2.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the older. The older is the bigger part of the equation. I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler in his prime, you would love to have him on your team if you're the Sixers. Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team? You'd never let him go.

[Big Cat]

True.

[Hank]

Kevin Love also has been just putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what. Like, he just switched the flip and was like, it. I'm just gonna.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[Hank]

I'm just gonna get my way out through memes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I love it.

[Hank]

Very, very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

What about. What about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation?

[Hank]

Phoenix is the favorite right now to.

[PFT Commenter]

Land them, but Bradley Beal has no trade clause. And although, like, yes, you have no trade clause, you negotiate that for a reason. But come on, Bradley Beal does.

[Big Cat]

Is there any. Like, if you're GM or your KD or you're Devin Booker, is there any part of you that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get, like, five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys? It's so weird to me, whenever it's like, what's this? What's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

I also love that Matt Espia last year was like, I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward. And now he's trying to do the same thing. Butler, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just had another name that we all know. It's. They're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with fantasy football, where it's like, yeah, Tony Gonzalez. I drafted Tony Gonzalez, like, seven years after. He was good.

[PFT Commenter]

That guy was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I see his name.

[Hank]

The warriors of the other team.

[Big Cat]

Warriors are a mess. I mean, a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs. And I don't know what, like, Steph is. Let Steph be free. He probably. Probably doesn't want to. Maybe he just wants to be one Jersey guy. But I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he has. He retires.

[PFT Commenter]

It does feel like, this is the end of that era.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, definitely. Like, officially. Can you imagine jbut on that team with, like, trying to get along with Draymond Green?

[Big Cat]

No. No. And I don't even think, like, this is why this revisionist history. Just should have just resigned Clay and just gotten, like, you have to pick a lane. Like, just maybe just get old together.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And just be like, all right, it was fun, but everyone got to stay together. I don't know. I mean, it's not working.

[Hank]

Yeah, but they were gonna have to pay so much.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I know.

[Big Cat]

Stupid. I just feel like if you know you're not gonna win again, just go. Nostalgia.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's not that, but, I mean.

[Hank]

Any chance of winning again, not paying him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, I agree.

[Big Cat]

I agree. It was a dumb thought. I just think of this.

[PFT Commenter]

I know what you're saying, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is, if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together and then let them all. Maybe one day they all retire at the same time.

[Big Cat]

Or maybe they win one series again. Like, as 37 year olds, you're like, oh, that was cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's a dumb thought. I understand. It's a dumb thought. Really stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, a dumb ownership ship group would certainly do something like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But a smart ownership group would not.

[Big Cat]

Correct. Okay.

[Hank]

Cool throwing. I. I mean, this is where it's like, I. I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing it up on the show. So I have, you know, I don't.

[Big Cat]

Know where this is going. Any idea.

[Hank]

Again, this is going.

[PFT Commenter]

You fell into the trap again.

[Big Cat]

Are you gonna talk about the gun aside again?

[Hank]

Nope. I never talked about that once. My Cool Throne is the Paul brothers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's a good one. And yes, you're everything. You kind of said I don't. Didn't really fully go through, but, yes, I agree. But I know what you were saying, and I agree. I don't think it was.

[Hank]

I should have said it first. The Paul brothers in the Cool Throne. I say this every time.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

I don't want to watch it. I know it's gonna be rigged. It's gonna be bullshit. People are gonna walk away disappointed. Yet here I am, correct. Talking about it again. And I probably will. I definitely will.

[Big Cat]

And we already. I already have Max, the streaming app, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it's no additional money.

[Big Cat]

Max raises. I do have. I have multiple maxes.

[PFT Commenter]

Make the. I fell for it again. Award, Although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat, and all the. All the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights.

[Hank]

Yeah. They need. There needs to be, like, a knockout. Like, the purse needs to be, like, $5. $5 if either one gets a knockout. A hundred million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, agreed.

[Hank]

Who? Jake.

[PFT Commenter]

Look, Logan's bigger.

[Big Cat]

No, Jake's bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought Logan was taller, but Jake's beefier.

[Hank]

It's Jake.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it boxing?

[Big Cat]

Jake is the better box.

[Hank]

Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's on the wrestling. He's. And he's done, like, the faker.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we're talking about this, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Is it. But is it right? Is it a boxing match or is it mma? What is it?

[Big Cat]

It's boxing.

[Hank]

It also might all be a. It's all. It's all might be at work.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because, like, the wording of it is kind of weird.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Logan is. Yeah. Imagine they come out and just play rock, paper, sciss. Shoot. Logan is 62205, and Jake is 6 1.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

227.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Jake.

[Big Cat]

And they have the same exact reach.

[PFT Commenter]

So Jake also this time of year, be.

[Big Cat]

Have. Have your.

[PFT Commenter]

Alert your intent up high, because anything that you see that. That stirs your interest. Pretty good chance it's a Super bowl commercial.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Very good point.

[Hank]

This one has a date, but March 27th.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, still. But still.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Good job, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Good job, Hank. My hot seat is saying it with your chest. So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday. Our good friend Peter Schrager on that show. Love Peter. Kyle Brandt, friend of the program. We like Kyle Brandt. He went on a little rant about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there were all these people out there saying everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America. But let's not turn this into the Chiefs are some evil empire out there that is easy to root for, and it's us against them, and we don't want them to win no matter what. Kyle Brandt, also on Sunday, put out a hype video for the game.

[Big Cat]

I saw that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where he was literally Rocky as a Bills fan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And drago from Rocky 4.

[Big Cat]

Were the chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Were the Chiefs. The evil empire was literally the U.S.S.R. yeah. Where was Drago from?

[Big Cat]

Russia.

[PFT Commenter]

He was from Russia. He was from Russia.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

USSR and so he turned the. He. Now he's saying, like, don't act like you got a root against the Chiefs. And they're literally an evil empire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you got to Take down Big Red. You just did that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You just did that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You made the hype. But it was a very well done video.

[PFT Commenter]

And I. I understand that, like, Kyle, he is. He's not technically a Bills fan. He's like a. Yeah, yeah. You know, he's a hype guy for the Bills.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But still, like, you. You were actually doing that thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you were rooting for the Bills.

[PFT Commenter]

And also let people root against the Chiefs if they want to.

[Big Cat]

I couldn't agree more. I. And I also, like, I don't care if you want to say I'm rooting for greatness. Like, if you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like, I'm rooting for Graces. I respect greatness. That's cool by me. If you're just like, I hate the Chiefs. I fucking hate him. It's rigged. I don't like them. I hate Patrick Mahomes. That's cool by me, too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you want to root against the Chiefs because you think they are Satan, do it. Do it, please.

[Big Cat]

And Chief fans don't get offended either.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You. Like you're winning. You shouldn't worry what other people think about your team.

[PFT Commenter]

I think when you're winning, I think Kyle tried to do the neat little pivot from Bill's superfan to, hey, Chiefs, I love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's a. That's a hard move to pull off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I mean the. The Chiefs discourse. Like, I just don't. If you hate the Chiefs, you just hate the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, to be fair, maybe it was a bit. Because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching. Maybe they were playing in the background. The rocky montage that he did that. That would be a bit.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

In which case, hand up, I got it wrong. But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm. I'll put my hand right up right now. I'm not cashing out of my future with the Eagles. I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But I also respect his greatness. But I'm. I'm telling you right now, I'm rooting against the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

I respect greatness, unlike Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Are you going to be rooting for the Chiefs?

[PFT Commenter]

I think I have to.

[Big Cat]

I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

I never.

[Big Cat]

I just.

[PFT Commenter]

I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl. Big cat had literally $200,000.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was a big.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't want to be sitting next to him, rooting for him to lose $200,000.

[Big Cat]

I appreciate that.

[PFT Commenter]

So I bet eight grand on him. Lost that. Lost the doink bet to Hank. I was getting rods from all angles again that week.

[Big Cat]

Just bet Mahomes. I did it last year. Like, there was chief fans, obviously, you're like, you always root against us. I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans. I bet on the Chiefs, a very big bet against them in the 49 in the super bowl last year. Remember, we're sitting in the gambling cave. I think it was you, Dave. A couple other people were on the 49ers and I was just sitting there like, I got my homes. This is going to be easy. Like, it's going to. They're going to win.

[PFT Commenter]

I might have to go back to the no doinks. Well, get my revenge on that.

[Big Cat]

But what I would say If I.

[PFT Commenter]

Did 50 grand on no doinks at minus 500. What does that pay out?

[Big Cat]

Probably a lot.

[Max]

Elliot's been so shaky.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Elliot has been shaking.

[PFT Commenter]

You were gassing Elliot up last week.

[Max]

I know because coach Gruden told me I had to.

[Big Cat]

Pft. I'll say this. If. If I weren't. Yeah. If I didn't have this Eagles future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because it was a. It was a very calming super bowl watch of being like, oh, but Mahomes, he's got me. Like when we were just sitting there watching, like. Yeah, but Mahomes is gonna. He'll be fine. You know what? Figure it out. It's going to be in the fourth quarter and you'd be like, oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

One team has Mahomes NFL rigged. I think I'm just going to go with the rigged.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Why not?

[Big Cat]

It's a. It's a decent watch.

[PFT Commenter]

Betting on undertaker at Russell. WrestleMania.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm one in one in. In the last two Chief Super Bowls.

[PFT Commenter]

But wait. Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

Yes, I was there. I was there.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Max, that's got that. That's good for you, Max.

[Max]

That stat.

[Big Cat]

That's great stat. It's great stat.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Was it in your cool throne?

[PFT Commenter]

My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago. This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I. I get home on Sunday night. I sent my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of. Of clothes. I had jumpsuits. I had to watch Etc. Etc. 2 Giant. Giant Duffel bags of clothes. I get home, they had dropped it off on my porch. Somebody stole all my clothes.

[Big Cat]

Imagine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Being that burglar and opening it up and being like, what the.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Not to brag, but I think I have a pretty.

[Big Cat]

A Takis medium jumpsuit. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking, I'm gonna get some good clothes. They stole these two huge bags of clothes, got them in their car. They're driving away like, I made out like a bandit. Let's open this up. There's probably going to be Gucci in there. There's going to be Dolce and Gabbana. They unzip it and they see six different Darius Rucker themed Washington Commander shirts.

[Big Cat]

It just. It's basically like the robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. Yeah, the ink blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They actually did you a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits. Just clean out for Jumpsuit channel.

[PFT Commenter]

There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was. It was. Pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen. So now I don't really have any clothes. I went out, I bought. I mean, a bunch of socks.

[Big Cat]

We could just. There's a loss. I'm found at my kid's school. Yeah. I could get you a new wardrobe tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

You got any propeller beanies I can.

[Big Cat]

Put on elementary school?

[PFT Commenter]

But I. Now I'm looking at this, and I'm thinking, this could be. This could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40.

[Big Cat]

Don't change.

[PFT Commenter]

Could be time to start dressing like an adult.

[Big Cat]

I'll be so mad at you if you change. You have a style.

[PFT Commenter]

I was thinking about maybe getting some of the Tick Tock girls to give me fashion makeover.

[Hank]

I think she dressed like, high, like luxury.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Joe Burrow. Like I turn into Joe Burrow now back.

[Big Cat]

All right. I could be down with that.

[Hank]

I don't want you scum to just absolute like, yeah, yeah. But I don't want you to be like chrome hearts.

[Big Cat]

I dress plain, Hank. Dress. Dress plain. You're. You. You got to be the one. Max memes. We all wear the same hoodies. We need the guy who comes in and is like, hey, you guys see this jumpsuit? It's got croissants all over it. This.

[PFT Commenter]

This, to me, feels like a great opportunity, though, to. To. To turn a page. It's like the universe telling me maybe it's time to stop wearing f.15 onesies.

[Big Cat]

No, but I would be supportive if you wanted to do, like, a full, like, assless suit. Like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Like turn into super, super fashion.

[Max]

Did they have. Was the one jumpsuit that you look like a bunny rabbit? Was that in there?

[PFT Commenter]

It was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They stole my.

[Big Cat]

That was Christmas story one. Yeah.

[Max]

That's what I was really hoping. It's just right on top. The first thing he sees.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

I. That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but I can get over it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

They might return it.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I have. Well, I. The first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood anticipating that they open it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They were like this.

[Big Cat]

That's so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, maybe I'll just do the f. I think I might try the fashion makeover.

[Big Cat]

That's so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, I would love to get. Listen. If you're an awl and you're listening to this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits and commander's gear, no penalty. No. No crime will be committed. We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag.

[Hank]

Maybe just return it so we know it's you with, like a long note.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just saying, like, I want to open this bag. I was disgusted, and that made me change my whole life and realize I need to get on the street and narrow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe they learned a lesson. Crime doesn't pay.

[Big Cat]

That's so funny. All right, my hot seats. I got two. One is Jayla Milroe. And hand sizes being back because Jayla Milroe has insanely small hands.

[PFT Commenter]

What are they, 8 inches?

[Big Cat]

8 and 3ths inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any first round quarterback ever taken. And in 2022, only one starting NFL QB had his hand size under 9 inches. 9 inches. And it was Taysom Hill. Yeah. Not good. Especially because Jalen Milroe also does things like throw interceptions and not throw to the open guys. Yeah. Not be able to throw.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a very small hand. I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, Hank's got tiny hands.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Little hands. Little guy. Tiny little nuggets.

[Hank]

I have big hands.

[Big Cat]

Oh, actually, I have three hot seats.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

But did you see when, like when Josh Allen fumbled that Pedro Martinez fingers just picked it up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Off the Ground. Just palmed it.

[Big Cat]

That was a pig snack.

[PFT Commenter]

Like. Yeah, like a vacuum cleaner.

[Big Cat]

It was a snarf.

[PFT Commenter]

Hands mean something?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, actually, no. I'll switch one to a cool turn. So my other hot seat is Archie Miller. Archie Miller, head coach of the University of Rhode Island.

[Hank]

Andre the Giant.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference? Now I have to defend Archie Miller and the fact that I also get. Got a lot. But Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about what's the toughest league in. In the country. You want to play the press conference? Here you go. Here was his quote today.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you know, the SEC is the best league in the country, but, you know, in all games, they're like 54 and 54. Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate.

[Max]

But, like, do you know how hard.

[PFT Commenter]

It is in every league, you know, to. To.

[Max]

To win?

[PFT Commenter]

You know, it's just hard to win any game.

[Big Cat]

So the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting. I kind of find the guy's account. I apologize to him. I'll shout him out. Does he have it there? Shout out that guy. He tweeted something that was. It was basically joking. He was just saying, oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country. Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th? Obviously a joke because it's all conference play. And then Archie Miller went and took that stat and used it in a press conference.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because there's some bad teams that are at the bottom. When you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss.

[Big Cat]

Just very funny. Be like, I saw somewhere 54 and 54. And so that must. That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The NFL was 500 this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

As a league, the league is down. It's not getting done.

[Big Cat]

For anyone who says the league is down, there it is. Yeah, he's down. Technically, how many games gets. Is it always finish? Oh, no, no, I'm stupid. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah. But the super bowl is a standalone game. Yep. I'm a. I just Archie Miller myself. But yeah, shout out the guy who.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess you could say, like, got him, got one conference, ends up with a slightly better record. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

That will always.

[Max]

Wasn't that the Stephen Che thing? He did a prediction for the whole league?

[PFT Commenter]

No, but he did it wrong.

[Big Cat]

Off by, like.

[PFT Commenter]

Because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just. I think that this team is going to win their division with 13 wins. This team's going to have 10, this team's going to have 10. This team's gonna have nine.

[Max]

Nobody did the whole, like, data thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's impossible.

[Max]

I went game by game, but it wasn't. It was impossible.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I found the tweet. Jacob Pickle. Great. Jacob Pickle. Shout Out. Jacob Pickle. He said, wow. The best conference in the history of College basketball is 54 and 54 since January 4th. ESPN once again showing their SEC bias. For some teams that can't even get above.500, that's great. And then Archie Miller went. Used it. Good job, Jacob pickle. Shout out pickle07. Also great username there. My Cool Throne. I have two. One is our guy, Tailgate Ted. So he actually hit us up pft and was like, thank you guys for the shout out. And he has a. If you go online, he has. He's trying to raise money for lung cancer. Lung cancer. Against research. Yeah, research. So Shout Out, Tailgate Ted. If you can donate to the GoFundMe. It feels like he's. He's handled it all very well. Like, he was obviously made fun of on the Internet a little bit, lost a big game. He's turning it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude. And you always have the Hard Rock. The Hard Rock, the Hard Rock. When all else fails, like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin, put your picture.

[PFT Commenter]

Up on the wall. The Hard Rock.

[Big Cat]

Tailgate Ted will just get back to Hard Rock and he'll just be around his people.

[PFT Commenter]

He does seem like a good guy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an Internet flashpoint, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, it's gonna be a while.

[PFT Commenter]

Future statements. It's gonna. It's gonna last for a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So. So everyone is. Twitter username is Tailgate Ted. And he's got the links there. So Shout. Shout him. And then My Cool Throne is Max and the Philadelphia 76ers for not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seater Quilter on.

[PFT Commenter]

Does that make sense, Josh Harris.

[Big Cat]

Well, not. Not really. Not really.

[Max]

Every other team in Philadelphia posted about that post about the game. The Sixers went radio sign.

[Big Cat]

Kind of. Kind of a salty move by Josh Harris. Like, the Sixers are Philadelphia. You have to separate those two.

[Hank]

And also, what would Philadelphia on the Sixers or does Josh Harris.

[Big Cat]

Well, I mean, the people. I mean, the people kind of.

[Max]

There's another thing.

[Big Cat]

It's their team.

[Max]

Jeffrey Lori wants to buy. Wants to buy the Celtics.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Everyone else but Hank. What would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like, good job, Eagles, on their Twitter account? That's one of those moves. Like, you just have to just ignore it, because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect. You're not going to. They don't post it, and then everyone's like, you're a salty, petty bitch.

[Hank]

Maybe he is.

[Big Cat]

He probably is. Which I'm fine with that. But just, dude, who cares? Let him post.

[PFT Commenter]

If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[Max]

No way.

[Big Cat]

I don't think anyone notices those posts.

[PFT Commenter]

Max would definitely be like, how your owner just congratulated the Birds.

[Max]

There's. There's no way. I would have known.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you would. Yeah.

[Max]

The only reason is because people were going to. All of the. Every other team in Philly posted about. About it. The water. The Water Dogs posted it. Shout out the Water Dogs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're an owner of the Water Dogs.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Max]

How about that?

[Big Cat]

That is true.

[PFT Commenter]

Bigger, man.

[Big Cat]

Way to go, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I decided that's how you fight back.

[Max]

I didn't even think about that when I said that.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yep, I decided to put, you know, my. My business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team.

[Big Cat]

I'm just more like, there's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own. Like, is Josh Harris even on Twitter?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think so. A lot of people are saying Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently. They. They point at. At what's happening with the commanders, and they say, he doesn't care about the Sixers. All this stuff feels like that's.

[Max]

Well, the Sixers suck in the command. Although the Sixers did just beat the Cavs.

[Big Cat]

It is crazy to, like, when you own multiple teams. I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time where if one of them's not good, everyone's like, why aren't you making that team good?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because they're like, you don't. We're not your priority anymore.

[Big Cat]

I just. I. There's no way he. By not posting it, you're just like, oh, he's bothered. Yeah, that's my only point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The. The commanders are to Josh Harris. That's Baron. The Sixers are like Eric. And then the Devils are like Don Jr.

[Big Cat]

If you want to put it in Trump terms.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You got that?

[Max]

Sure. I. I don't know. I don't understand what.

[Big Cat]

Also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me was like, you see Josh Harrison posters?

[Max]

Yeah, well, yeah, it was mad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You. So you actually care about, like, now I'm back on PFT side. Because, like, you can't actually be like, why the. Having the Sixers post.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I think.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, no.

[Max]

I didn't know about it until other people were talking about it. And then. Although realistically, I think it's probably like the social media manager who was. Who was like, I'm just not gonna post about this because I don't know if my ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris's death.

[Max]

I. I assume that's probably what it was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want my boss mad at me.

[Max]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And honestly, like, fair play to both sides, because if he had posted that from the Sixers, then I would have been like, what the dude. Like, his. His fans in D.C. would be mad or his fans in Philly would be. Would be mad if he doesn't post it.

[Big Cat]

You know what he should have done is he should have just posted from the Sixers account, good season commanders. You just ran into a better team. Like, compliment the commanders and be like, but the six. The Eagles are a better team. Like, this happens. That's what sports are.

[PFT Commenter]

Are the NFC east once again representing. Yeah. The NFC in the Super Bowl.

[Max]

Congrats, NFC beast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

NFC beast. NFC beast. They. They have not. Because usually teams will get bullied into this. They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl? They got to. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

If they win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they got to.

[Big Cat]

Also the real.

[PFT Commenter]

If they lose and they post something, that'd be very funny.

[Big Cat]

That. Yeah. Now that would be funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're like, oh, so close.

[PFT Commenter]

Great season, guys. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[Big Cat]

So close. Basically, like, you didn't win a playoff game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you don't win the whole thing. All right, let's get to.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess it falls on our shoulders now.

[Big Cat]

Let's get to J. O, C. We got our exit interview with him about the fantasy football season and what our strategy is going forward. Before we do that, we got a couple ads.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on one of our very, very dear friends. He's a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right.

[Big Cat]

It is Jerry O'Connell in studio. There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I say, when I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything. He just said, okay, what day works? And I was expecting to be Zoom. And he's like, all right, I'll. I'm going to land in Chicago at 7:00am Then I'm going to fly back out at 3:00. That's what you do for us.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You came in. You have the briefcase.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

What was the flight. What's the flight schedule today?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Flight schedule was. I flew out last night at 11pm okay. Landed five something.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Went to. It's great. They're a partner. Went to Planet Fitness.

[Big Cat]

You should have just come here to our new gym.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I should have? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We have a Planet Fitness right here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I would have come here. It's just like Hank is like all oiled up and stuff and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like waiting on the squat rack and you gotta go in the locker room with him and he's like, you want to do steam? And you're like, no, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And he's like watching you. And then. I didn't bring shower shoes. There's no way I'm going in that shower barefoot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I just went to my pf, man.

[Big Cat]

You went to your pf?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you went and got a breakfast.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I got a breakfast around the corner.

[Big Cat]

And. And then. When do you fly back?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I fly back today at 3pm There it is. My daughters have volleyball practice tonight and I've got to go watch them not start and not play well and act like I'm involved.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at? Because Jerry always sends us apartments. Usually on Chicago's Gold Coast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, look what you can buy here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's so funny. My algorithm is so crazy, by the way. Shout out to all the algorithms out there. They've really got it figured out.

[Big Cat]

Shout out the algorithms.

[PFT Commenter]

Red note.

[Jerry O'Connell]

My algorithm is. Well, I mean, first and foremost, it's usually like big tits.

[Big Cat]

I've actually, I don't know if you do this, but I. Because the algorithm always works and if you click on it, if you. If you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits. So now it's pretty much only big tits.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. It is just. It is a little. It gets a little awkward because I have, you know, two teenage kids and a wife, and if you say anything like, oh, hey, look at this text that so and so sent. And it's Instagram that usually comes up and I'm always like, whoa, what is this? I'm not following them. What is this?

[Big Cat]

Shout out to Algorithm Zuckerberg.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But it's that a lot of it lately has been Josh Allen crossing an imaginary first down Line on that fourth down play. I don't know if it heard me talking about it. It's in my thoughts. I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it. I've just been thinking about it a lot because I live at home with my wife and daughters and I'm the only one who watches football, so I have no one to talk to about it. So I haven't even been like saying anything out loud. It's just, it's been feeding me that. And finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area.

[PFT Commenter]

They are great deals. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I must have clicked on one and sent it to you guys. And now it's my thing. Oh, also, I have other algorithms. Like I have a giants friend. And anytime there's a giants meme or anything, you know, a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards. I don't know if you saw that one. Yeah. Like I said about jets, me, I have a few jets friends that I send jets memes to. And I mean, we should talk more. And I could send you some commander's memes and some bears memes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that'd be great. You send. You have free reign to send any tax.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, it's funny, I do. I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it, it's been sent to you one million times. So I try. I try not to waste your time. I do have a texting relationship with both of you, and I don't try to abuse it. I try to send you interesting things.

[Big Cat]

And you also have a texting relationship now with Max memes. And Pug got the whole. You basically asked for all the numbers and you've been texting with. I almost just threw you into the Pardon my take group tech.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, no, I haven't quite.

[Big Cat]

Then we would. It would turn to green.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, go green. And also we'd be talking about what dinners we're going to get a lot, and you'd be jealous.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group text and being the only green bubble just to with them hard.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it was a 15 person group chat. I tossed Jerry in. It immediately turned to the green bubble and everybody was like, who the is this? And Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And started sending shirtless pictures to the chat.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

You took it upon yourself to. To organize the draft order by taking names out of hat while shirtless well.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order. So I made a video of myself doing the draft order. And if you recall, there was a, a controversy, as they say in England, a controversy where we got the first pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And everyone said I cheated.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you got to take Christian McCaffrey. And thank goodness. Yeah, thank goodness. They just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it started, it started with a bang. People, I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get go, but then after like 1, 2, 3 months, they grew to love Jerry. And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league, which it goes to show if you keep Jerry around long enough, you're going to end up loving him.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, guys, I really, I'm, I, I feel like I'm, I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our, of our, of, of our league. Like, I really dropped the ball for you guys. I lost by. For those who don't know, I posted a few times on X, we lost in, in the game that would have taken us to the championship by point. 10 points, 0.10.

[Big Cat]

And that's on the manager.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, it is on me. I saw the manager. I got to tell you, hand up. I take full responsibility. I never admitted this to you, and I'm going to say it now. At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight up trade. Max, you listening? Max?

[Max]

I'm listening. I'm listening.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We were offered a trade, straight up AJ Brown. We had Joe Mixon and I turned it down and that is why we lost. I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed. He had single digit scoring weeks week after week after week. And you have to start Joe Mixon. And you know, I'm not defending myself here, but in my defense, you know, A.J. brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines. He was reading self help books in between plays. I just thought the Eagles were going to Eagle and I didn't want any part of that. And that was my mistake. And I want to apologize to your faces.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

Apology accepted a little bit.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Because I got to tell you that. Sorry, what were you gonna say?

[PFT Commenter]

I just, I feel a little bit like John Mara where it's like if I'm gonna, I'm gonna kill myself if A.J. brown beats us. Yeah, I'm doing this right now. I Is it fair to say, Jerry, you're. You're. You're not on the hot seat, but people are asking if you're on the hot seat.

[Big Cat]

I think. Yeah, I don't even think it's a hot. I think people are saying maybe he needs, like, you know, when a coach. Nathaniel Hackett, when he was at the Broncos, he had to bring in a clock manager. Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be, like, a senior analyst that can. At least you can talk things through with them when you're worried about a trade or a starter, sit. Just. Just an old head that maybe. Maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice that's just been thrown out there. Yeah. Not.

[PFT Commenter]

Not anybody that's above you.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But just, you know, somebody that you can. You can ask questions.

[Big Cat]

Well, they would. That person. If we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

And Jerry would have to report to them, but again, not above you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I. I would like to remain calling all the plays.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men. Wait, what did Syria.

[Big Cat]

Leader of men.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm a leader of men, and I think I can handle it. I just want to say, for the record, two years ago, we made it to the finals and we lost, and this year we came in third. So, I mean, it's a lot of numbers.

[Big Cat]

I mean, like.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, like, Josh Allen just. Just defended his coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know, but questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, have you. Has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since DeMarcus? Have you been the same fantasy manager since tomorrow?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I want to say, for those who don't recall, we went to the championship the week that demar Hamlin, say it almost died.

[PFT Commenter]

Prayers for demar.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Prayers for tomorrow went down, and we were losing by just a few points, and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Be a part of our total score the next week. And we lost. We. Look, you know what? I realized that my job is on the line here.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no. Listen. We didn't want this to be an accusatory. It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization. When we lose in the playoffs, we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process is the process what we want it to be.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be higher.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Standard is anything less than championship.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't want. We don't think about that. Our goal is to win championships here. And I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat. We're giving you a vote of confidence.

[Big Cat]

You're. You're our manager.

[PFT Commenter]

You are our manager.

[Big Cat]

You're a manager. Whether we add a general manager, who knows? But what would you say the standard is?

[Jerry O'Connell]

The standard is. I.

[Big Cat]

No, no. You already fucked it up.

[PFT Commenter]

What is the standard, Jerry?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Championship.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Jerry. What is the standard?

[Big Cat]

The standard. What is it?

[Jerry O'Connell]

What is the standard? The standard is winning.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

So close.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Your standard is defeat is impossible.

[Big Cat]

Just standard. The standard is the standard. There it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

That's our guy.

[Big Cat]

I don't like how long.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what?

[PFT Commenter]

See, we're culture guys.

[Big Cat]

I don't know how long. I don't like how long it took to get there.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, let me go through. I did some research. I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go through that and then you can.

[Big Cat]

I had a question for you before we go through that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's not the robot question.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not the robot question yet. Is your wife ever going to follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us, and she doesn't follow us. That's a. That's a. I'm just saying, like, locker room culture. I went and looked in. The last four tweets are directly at me and. Pft.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I mean.

[Big Cat]

And she does not follow us. Back Her. One of her tweets. Our daughter just sent me this video. She was simply doing her homework. On a Sunday night. They don't know who Dak is. This is Jerry's erratic behavior I was talking about on your sports podcast. Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening? Pft And Big Cat. Jerry will only talk about benching Laporta. It's bumming everyone out. Happy Thanksgiving. And then she said, so happy. Pardon my take. Fantasy football season is over. Big Cat. And pft. Jerry's torture on Sundays. And do you know why? Because he sucks at it. Loser. Get a new manager. This is your wife, supermodel, by the way, who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you. Is that winning culture?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Listen, I don't. I'm not in charge of her socials, you know, I'm not that ingrained in her career. It's not like a Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us. We do our own thing. But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone. And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image.

[Big Cat]

I don't think that's. Over and over and over.

[PFT Commenter]

I said I loved her in the swimsuit issue.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, but then you, like, did her weird, like, lip. You, like, licked your lips.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think I licked my lips.

[Big Cat]

We just said that her swimsuit issue was a very big part of our childhood.

[PFT Commenter]

I became a man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, but I would. There.

[Big Cat]

Right there. I'm saying that you're.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That you masturbated to my wife. And why would my wife follow you?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm saying I. She. I. I grew up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that could be anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Watching her.

[Big Cat]

That could be learning how to drive a car. That could be a bar mitzvah. That'd be a quinceanera. There's a lot of things that becoming a man is.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, but why? You know, my wife for decades has dealt with, like, weirdos and creeps.

[Big Cat]

Like, I will point us out to him. We'll. We'll handle them for her. Like, is Jerry bothering you, Rebecca? We'll help you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I will talk to her about following you. I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed also.

[PFT Commenter]

It's okay.

[Big Cat]

It's okay. But she's. Listen, she is, I would say, the perfect example of our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we want to hear from the fans.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Maybe we need to do a Jerry con where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face. Hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing because we answer to the fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, let me just ask you this. Stand by me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Great.

[PFT Commenter]

Great film.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Thank you. Classic.

[PFT Commenter]

How would you describe that? What is. What is the genre of film that is a buddy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

A coming of age film.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

Interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Rebecca Romijn was a coming of age thing for me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I understand what you're using the word coming.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

You started that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You. I. It was a long.

[Big Cat]

It was a long one of those.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, it was not German views with the two dots.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a cooming event.

[Big Cat]

He was zooming. He was zooming there. I would agree with you.

[PFT Commenter]

Of age.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Guys, listen. Let me get to my fantasy preview for you, what I can do for you as a manager. I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in. I don't want to bring anyone else in. I think I can Handle all the play calling duties. Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 20, 24, 25 season and what we have to look forward to.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You have the floor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is basically it. This is our exit interview after a tough season. What it is, that's what they do. Every team does this. After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the gm, talk about, hey, what, where, what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is this a performance improvement plan?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's not. No, no. That we only have. We only have one of those that we're allowed to use. And it's currently being used. It's like a franchise tag we're currently using on memes. So we, the Pip, can't be passed around like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, let me, Let me go through my preview.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So the exit interview, you're not exiting.

[PFT Commenter]

What would you say you do here, Jerry?

[Big Cat]

I didn't know that Joe Mix. I mean, that's also just. That's a transparency issue. Because you find out, yeah, like, the athletic is going to do a story about this being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part of my take fantasy league and be like, Jerry O'Connell turned down A.J. brown for Joe Mixon. And that's where the season, that's where he lost. Because imagine if you're AJ Brown or, sorry, if you're Joe Mixon and you know that Jerry is shopping you. How do you, how do you go play ball after that?

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be tough.

[Big Cat]

It would be tough. And you said that his, his, his season took a downturn major. Right after you had him on the trade block.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He. He actually fucked us. He fucked us out of, out of, out of winning the whole thing. Oh, guys, you want to see my Planet Fitness shorts? I was in sort of a rush. I had to go with the jorts.

[Big Cat]

Those are the Bing Bong jorts.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, man. How about Mr. Bing Bong? Can you believe I was in Stand By Me? I was a Jerry Maguire. And currently the thing I'm most known for is Mr. Bing Bong.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait for, for NBA playoffs. We got to bring him back.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, here we go. This is our fantasy recap exit interview.

[Big Cat]

You don't like that word, but that's what. They don't like it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's start with the AFC North. Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, hold on timeout.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Big Cat. I think we need to get somebody.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Afc.

[Big Cat]

I feel like that was a tough. I feel like Jill Biden. Now I have to be like, no, he's fine. He's of sound mind and body. He could still do this job.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help in decision making?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, but actually, I. Sometimes when I. When I gamble, I use. I look at fantasy defenses, how they're going to perform, and I was always looking for a system with gambling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I thought, oh, what if. I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet whoever the. The. The team that that defense bet against, the team that that defense is playing. And it didn't work. It wasn't a system.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I know that Brick is a listener of this podcast. Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with. Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, don't do it to me, guys.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he knows. Inside and outs of a NFL franchise.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Don't do it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So where are we starting? AFC East. Got it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's start with the Bills. The receivers have been a total bummer this season. I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number one receiver. Omari Cooper, they got hosed by the Browns. Man, that was. That was a bad trade. Kincaid has been a bummer. Of course. Josh Allen is a stud. Of course. James Cook, man, he was possessed so good on Sunday. Led the league with TDs, 16, but nobody else.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start. And then nothing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Nothing. He had one game against Tennessee.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend. All right, let's go to Miami. I want to apologize to you guys also for not making that. That A.J. brown trade. But also I did not see John who Smith this season, and that's something. If you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five in their position. That's.

[Big Cat]

That might even been a waiver wire.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It may have been. I just didn't see him, and I apologize. It was too late.

[PFT Commenter]

What happened with our wire this week or this year? Did. Did we make any big pickups?

[Jerry O'Connell]

We. You know, Jalen Warren was a waiver wire pickup. I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire because that's.

[Big Cat]

Do not recall, please. Noted in the. That's. I do not recall that big.

[PFT Commenter]

Can I have, like, Belichick? It's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And his answer was, I do not.

[PFT Commenter]

Do not recall. Not important.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But you know what? Tyreek Waddle and Tua hn is, of course, is incredible. But I got to tell you, my problem with Miami. Your head coach can't shiver on a sideline. That's not allowed. And I got it. I'm not even making a joke here. Like, refugees shiver. Like. Like dogs. Dogs that don't have homes. Oh, by the way, Max, way to be congrats on nola, Max.

[Max]

Thank you, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Billy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Whatever. Nola Billy.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

NOLA rescue dogs shiver. You know, head coaches can't shiver national television.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why I like a fat coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a good layer of insulation.

[Jerry O'Connell]

By the way. I think Tyreek Hill is going to go to Washington.

[Big Cat]

Oh, interesting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think Josh Harris is going to pay that 27 million, and it's going to open everything up, and I'm really looking forward to that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's a great player. He's still really, really good. I just don't know. You got to take a gamble on his, you know, some of the off the field stuff.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think. I think Coach Quinn can handle it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think that'd be fun. The jets memes, are you there?

[PFT Commenter]

Hello?

[Jerry O'Connell]

None of them ever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Again. Ever again. I think this team, this last season, is going to be studied for what not to do. By the way, this is part of my take. We have to have takes. I think the problem is Aaron, Okay? I think he's the problem, and I'm going to tell you why. I told you. I have teenage daughters. They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home, young men. And I make them say hello to me, and I shake their hand and I go, hello. Nice to meet you. I'm. I'm their father. And I look them in the eye. I look them in the eye to look for. To see if they're druggies. Yeah. And I gotta tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. And I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time. And I look. I look at them and I'm like, is this a druggie? Is this a druggie? You're a druggie. Get him out of here. Aaron Rodgers just has druggie eyes to me. And you know what? You don't want that around Brick. We mentioned Brick.

[PFT Commenter]

Impressionable.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Impressionable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, I. My jets buddy memes, are you still there?

[PFT Commenter]

Still here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

My jets buddy thinks that Justin Fields is going to come to the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Interesting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a name for you. Okay, what about Derek Carr?

[Big Cat]

That's a good name.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, it's a good name. I just. This season. Really? You're just off quarterbacks this season with him? I'm just not feeling it. I know he's a friend of the show. I listened to his interview. It was a great interview. He's must, he looks good. Good arms. Definitely works arms.

[PFT Commenter]

No druggie eyes. Maybe Prozac eyes. He's got the mascara.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He's got beautiful eyes. He's, he's a, he's got pretty dreamy eyes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, I do think, I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to. I think he'll go to Tennessee.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of perfect for him.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I could see that happening.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Maybe the Browns, maybe the Steelers, maybe. All right. The Patriots. Hank, are you there?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hank, man, can you believe that people actually get nervous when I'm about to.

[Big Cat]

Talk about their final judgment. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I can't believe it actually matters.

[Big Cat]

Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan. I, I, it's got to be said. Sorry, memes, we didn't have a coach all season.

[Big Cat]

See also Devonte Adams and Gary Wilson. You should take them.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, you know what I want to ask you memes? Aaron Rodgers, does he have druggie eyes?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's a full blown drug addict, but he had the second best season.

[Max]

In, in the franchise history.

[PFT Commenter]

Top five quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Top five quarterback, everything.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hank.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We're going to draft Drake May next season.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We're going to draft him. Let me tell you. Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

Doug Marone now, too.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I got to tell you. Hunter Henry. Hank, you're back. Not only that, I think that's the.

[Big Cat]

First time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hank is back. You guys are picking fourth.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, Let me say this. New York shit ball. Giants pick third. If they pass on Travis Hunter, the Giants and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter. I will be so. Because then we have, we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So we come.

[PFT Commenter]

Then he become Hank, becomes Hunter Henry. At that point.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's so scary. Oh. But you know what? I think you should, the Giants should take Travis Hunter. I think you guys at 4 should reach for that. I'm gonna mispronounce his name. Tet. Tet. McMillan. Tatoria.

[Big Cat]

Oh, from Arizona.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. That awesome wide receiver tattoo. Somebody helped me look it up. Max, you're good with accents. You're good with names.

[Max]

Max, you can just call him Tet. That's what I. That's what I've been saying.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, I want to say his. I want to say his full name. Look it up.

[Big Cat]

Tatoria. Tet. His name's name's Tat. Good one, Hank.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tatoria Tatara.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, Max. Guys, give it one shot. Max.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Go for it.

[Max]

Tyroa.

[Big Cat]

Tmac.

[Max]

Tyroa.

[Big Cat]

Tyroa. Tyro. Tetsu.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, T. Mac. I think you should draft T. Mac in that fourth spot. You should reach for it. But, Hank, great job, man. I mean it. Really good job.

[Hank]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Okay, we're gonna get Back to Jerry O'Connell in a second, but does everyone know what time it is, what season it is?

[PFT Commenter]

Hockey season.

[Hank]

227.

[Big Cat]

It is hockey season.

[Hank]

Basketball.

[Big Cat]

Basketball. But it's also tax season. That's right. It's tax season. Which we all know Hank is not a fan of. How you feeling about this tax season, Hank?

[Hank]

Guys, you're not going to actually believe this, but I feel really good about my taxes here. For once, I'm ahead of the game. All thanks to Tax Act. I'm not waiting till the last minute. And you shouldn't either. You shouldn't be like. You should be like. Memes and use. Tax act, they have expert assist. It's available to answer all of your questions. Every tax expert is based in the US So the ins and outs of the tax system, any questions you might have, they have easy, quick answers for you. Super helpful. And they have different levels depending on the help that you need. You should check out for yourself. Just go to taxact.com right now, check out the levels, get some questions answered. Go to taxact.com. all your tax help. Check it out. Taxact.com.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, let's head over to the AFC West.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The Chiefs, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, The Chiefs. It's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what? I know Mahomes had big games. That Carolina game, that Tampa game, a couple others, Houston, Pittsburgh. But he had kind of a blast season. He didn't. This is a fantasy recap. Obviously, they had a winning record. This isn't about records. This is about fantasy. Everyone on that team at a blast season. And watching them these last few weeks, I have a feeling these old heads wait Till the playoffs to start playing. Like, watching Travis Kelsey, it's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend. And that's not what we care about. You know? Like, we want regular. We want weeks one through 17. Oh, I have a non. Fantasy question.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Obviously, Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld. Steinfeld. Getting. Steinfeld.

[Big Cat]

Haley.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Haley Seinfeld. Tatoria.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Get engaged. Do. Do a. Travis. Does Travis and Taylor, do they feel that pressure?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they. I think she's waiting to propose to him. I think her fans would be like, how dare. How dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, isn't she sort of like a. I don't want to put anyone inside of, like, I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic boundaries. I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries. But isn't she sort of a mainstream? Like, aren't we waiting for, like, a formal, like, engagement from them? Like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Isn't that informal if the woman is engaging? Sorry to be.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I guess I was. I was thinking somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on Sunday. What if the. At the end of the super bowl, confetti coming down, Travis Kelsey gets on a knee and proposes to Taylor Swift? And we were saying that the Swifties would not like that.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment. So what if she proposed to him at like, the Grammys or at her big. Like a big concert that she was having? That to me, feels like that's. That might be the way that relationship's going.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Amas Grammys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, they become the tar. The. The number one tabloid story.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What are Travis and Taylor doing today?

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's got to be pressure. All they're. They're. They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings. And you know what? He. He's just given her a friendship recently. Like one of those concert. What do you call them? A friendship bracelet.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They give each other.

[Big Cat]

Yes. A Swift. Yeah. Friendship bracelet.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Friendship bracelet. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It better be the best ring ever.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Gotta be ever. All right, so. Yeah. None of the Chiefs. Okay. Chargers. Oh, you know what, guys? I want to thank you. In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Lad Lad McConkey.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you were right. That's how you win fantasy. He was a 10th round draft pick for us.

[PFT Commenter]

So let's see. The most important pick that our team Made me and Big Cat actually made that pick.

[Big Cat]

He just said that's how you win fantasy. And we didn't win anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Not winners.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Just ran that down.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, you know what? Part of my take gotta have a take. Justin Herbert for fantasy reasons kind of sucks. He's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they ran the ball a lot.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He's not really going to work for us. I gotta tell you too about the Chargers. That Quinton Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo. I. The circumstances. I think it was. Was it fourth? It was third or fourth down. They needed it. It was against Baltimore. Right. It hit him in the hands and he dropped it. That was some. That was some. Remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone? That was some butt fumble.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was some Cody Parky double doink. That was like. I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop. It's just one of those.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, Najee Harris might go there. That would be interesting.

[Big Cat]

That would be interesting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than Ladd, we're not touching anybody. Let's go to Denver. Okay, I have a kind of a take with Denver. Denver gets T. Higgins or Stefan Diggs. Cortland Sutton and Bo Nix are. Must drafts. Their defense. We played them so much this season. They're awesome. They could in that draft reach for that Matthew golden guy, that, that tall Texas wide receiver. Denver's running game. We're not touching it. Javante is old. Please don't tell me Aldrich estimate is good. But if they get T. Higgins, Bo Nicks, Cortland Sutton, must drafts.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so you think that if they get another really good wide receiver.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wide receiver.

[PFT Commenter]

Then their number one receiver gets better.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yes. Yes. Or their number. Or we go with whoever their number two two receiver is. But they, they just. I. I have a theory in fantasy that you need. You need. You need that Addison to help Jefferson. You need that Jefferson to help Addison. It opens it up and people score more points. I mean point. Look at the Lions this season. They all opened it up for everybody. You.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think that Bo Nicks is going to have a great year next year. Have you seen the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

And how long they are. They go on for like 15 seconds. Sometimes you have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in. Okay, here's what we're going to Check to. In case they blitz. The fact that Bo Nicks played that well his rookie year in Sean Payton season. I think he's going to be great in the second year.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I like it. Okay, let's go to the Raiders. I don't know what's going to happen there now. If they get Shador. Okay. Which they're saying they may trade up for to get Shador. They may trade with the Titans. That's a possibility. Then I have to tell you, Jacoby Myers and Bowers become must drafts. That if Russell Wilson is their quarterback. We are. I'm not even going to watch. I'm not going to watch a Raiders game. Not only am I not going to draft anyone because they're typically afternoon games because they're West Coast. I may not watch afternoon games next season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that to the Raiders fans, I want nothing to do with the Raiders.

[Big Cat]

Okay? Fair. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, speaking of Russell Wilson, AFC North, Steelers. Steelers are in the AFC North.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Man, like that Seahawks defense. You know what? Richard Sermon. Richard Sherman was right. They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs. Don't you ever talk about me. Remember that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I was at that game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sorry. Receiver like Crabtree.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Man, the Steelers are in for years of hurt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's just. It's going to be years. Yeah, it's going to be bad. It's going to be bad.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But you know what I will say from a fantasy standpoint, Najee Harris leaving Jalen Warren becomes a must draft. Good running back. Oh, George Pickens. Maybe the Commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know about that.

[Big Cat]

Why, that would be awesome. He's.

[PFT Commenter]

I love watching George when he's on a different team.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, Hank. Hank. Hank.

[Big Cat]

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.

[Hank]

Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

George Pickens to the Patriots. You don't think that Coach Rabel can straighten him out?

[Hank]

I don't know if anyone can straighten out George Pickens.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He's so good, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he's not.

[PFT Commenter]

But he's so good.

[Big Cat]

But he's also not.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right. Ravens AFC north, right?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, man. You know what I missed? Not drafting Zay Flowers. Fellas, that was on me. You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zay Flowers was small and it was just in my head.

[Big Cat]

That happens.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It just gets in your head.

[Big Cat]

You know, you get it taken. It's hard to get off it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But you know what I gotta say, man, I gotta pay you guys a compliment. When I came in here with my preview you said draft Derrick Henry because he's going to look good in a. In a Ravens uniform.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you were right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He looks really good in a Ravens uniform.

[PFT Commenter]

He looked big, strong.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let me ask you something. If you were in an executive position. We are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

If you were making decisions about players in the NFL, the answer is yes. And you use these rules.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what? He would look good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We'd be good in a uniform.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Do you think that would.

[Big Cat]

Uniforms are 50% of the game, but.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Do you think that sort of thinking would make for. Do you think vibes?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to go off vibes sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay, what if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer? That looks good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Derrick Henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. You guys were wrong. I think you said Andy Dalton was going to look. Be a good Bear. He was going to look good as a bear.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's. Listen, he did the new hair, so that was.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, maybe it wouldn't work.

[PFT Commenter]

I also love Derrick Henry's new hair.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We are definitely, if they're around, going to draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews. That man is going to be on a mission. He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it. What a bummer. No, that was so funny when you posted the photo on X of Stavi. I'm not going to say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You posted that photo. And I remember looking at it being like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that. That's not good. And then I watched it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

None of it wasn't.

[Big Cat]

He was down bad.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was funny. The Bengals, man, I gotta say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown. I didn't. The more I go through, this is.

[Big Cat]

A lot of misses.

[PFT Commenter]

This is under the bus.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like we drafted a perfect team.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You were right about Chase Brown. I missed on that one. Kaseki kind of sucked. You know, T. Higgins, wherever he does go. Something to think about. Last two seasons, he's missed 10 games, so that's something to think about when drafting him. Obviously, all the. All the Bengals, they're great. And you know what? I think they're gonna. I think that Al golden guy is their new defensive coordinator.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't know anything about him, but he Looks like a football.

[Big Cat]

He's a good defensive coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that with T. Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract, protecting himself?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No. I think some players just get injured more often. Browns. This is interesting. If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns at the second. If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft. Okay. If the Browns. Because Coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins's offensive coordinator. If Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns, Jerry Judy will be a must draft.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Ford and Chubb, it's. It's. We're not drafting them, but if they get a quarterback Cam or Kirk draft Jerry Judy, we're drafting Jerry Judy.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And when Chubb. When he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited, and it's always the guy that you don't have. Always.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Exactly. Bummer. AFC south is dead to us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I was going to say skip the whole entire division.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They're just cursed. What is the word in. Hey, Max, Max, Max.

[Max]

Here, here. Present.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What's the Italian American term? It's the malochio. It's a malochio. It's like the curse, right, Malloy?

[Max]

Yep. Malachi. Malochio. Sound sounded right to me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's malochio. I think it is. It's like the curse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tutorial, tattoo. We got to get that. I want to apologize to Mr. McMillan. T. Mac. I'm sorry. Once I. Once we get it, we'll get it. But the malochio, they. The AFC south just has the malochio. CJ Stroud. Let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man. What a bummer. I got to tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe, was more successful than C.J. stroud this season. I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

In terms of fantasy points, possibly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't even care about fantasy points. Just in terms of expectations.

[Big Cat]

That's a take.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. I'd like you to go on.

[Big Cat]

That's a quite a take.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just in terms of expectations. CJ Stroud was a possible, like, super bowl contender, and he did not have a good season. You know? I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe Mixon and that trade and how the Texans finished their season. Look, Nico's great. I get it. Tank. Get. Get well soon. Mixing did have a good season, but I got to tell you, weeks 15, 60, 14, 15, 16, 17. It wasn't okay. Schultz sucked. None of Them. They got the Malochio. The Colts. Oh, man. I gotta, I gotta take ownership of this too. We drafted as our QB1 Anthony Richardson on our team and that was a mistake. It will never happen again. I actually, I'm, I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

What did we say about that? When Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richards.

[Big Cat]

I was like, I don't, like you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Said, don't do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Guys, don't fire me out.

[Big Cat]

We're not.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I paid for one third of it too. I did. The driveway suffered and it was pricey. It was, it was a hit. But I, I've. Yeah, the Colts, the Malochio. Pittman was bad. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. Could you imagine if we had. If you had him on your team and he rips off that 41 yard run and at the one yard line drops the ball. And I want to tell you, I wrote down what he said in his post game interview. Okay. He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50. It could be a playoff game. It could be the first season. It could be the first game of the season. That should just never happen. That's.

[Big Cat]

But he also, he did have incredible games down the stretch.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I understand that. And he was out to prove a point after that. But, but, but it's still. I want someone to say, I'm changing my. After they drop, after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball and by the way, lose a game that they should have won, they should say, I need to change. I need to change major things in my life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Something major has to change.

[Big Cat]

That's rock bottom.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Something major has to change. Not just like that. Just can't happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he, I. This is about you, Jerry, not about me. But I was in three fantasy leagues. I won two out of three of them and I had Jonathan Taylor. So again, it's about you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jonathan Taylor. You, you won with, with him.

[Big Cat]

I mean, his last two weeks of the season, he had insane games in the playoffs. In the fantasy playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

It's more about that one yard for you though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I do agree.

[Big Cat]

Winner, loser, how you decide to get there.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like to see a little bit more like. That's the, that's the worst thing that I've ever done in my life after that game. Yeah, I would like to, I would.

[Big Cat]

Like to see somebody say that accountability, Accountability matters.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what we care about for us.

[Big Cat]

Standard is the standard. Yep. Yeah. He weeks 16 and 17, he had 218 yards and three touchdowns. And then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like so, Big Cat, if. If we're looking at one of our employees and they dropped the metaphorical ball at the one yard line, I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life. Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you.

[Big Cat]

He literally. He dropped the ball and then he scored six touchdowns in the last three weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good point.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Titans do we do even. Do the Titans do.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We don't have to do the Titans. I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought. Yeah. I'm sorry, guys. I.

[Big Cat]

It's okay. Keep going. Keep going.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I dropped the ball at the 1.

[PFT Commenter]

People drop the ball at the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, man. You know what else months we had about the Colts? Oh, who is the Colts number one tight end? Tell me that.

[PFT Commenter]

Number one tight end.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Who. Who was their leading tight end?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just going to say Mo Ali Cox for.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, it was someone named Kylan Granson. Kylan Granson. Mo Ali Cox and their other tight end, Drew Ogletree, had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long. That's not okay. Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Colby Fleener, Tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs.

[Big Cat]

Jesus.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Malochio, the Titans. Oh, I. I do want to say. I know if we were going to draft anyone in the AFC south, and we're not, because they're dead to us. Pollard's got some gas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't hate Pollard.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We. We did draft Pollard on our team.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Good work.

[Big Cat]

Good job.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. And if the Titans do not make that trade, trade spots with the Raiders and take Cam Ward, Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft. If that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there. Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft. If we were drafting AFC south players. Oh. Cam Ward goes to the Titans. Their new general manager, Nick Borghazi. Not Nick Borghazzi.

[Big Cat]

Nick.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Nick. Nick Borgonzi. Nick Borgonzi is their new general manager. He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs. Okay, so Cam Ward on the tight.

[Big Cat]

Watch out.

[PFT Commenter]

Best quarterback of all time.

[Big Cat]

Watch out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jaguars, I guess. Brian Thomas Jr.

[Big Cat]

He's pretty good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He can't draft Bigsby or Tetian. Do they have a general manager yet?

[Big Cat]

No. No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tell me about Ian Cumming. Who is Ian Cunningham?

[Big Cat]

He is the assistant general manager for the Bears and I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get two picks in the third round. Compensatory picks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wow. So you have no.

[Big Cat]

I'd like the picks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You'd like the picks over I.

[Big Cat]

He seems like a pretty good, like, guy that's trusted and, you know, but I would like the picks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right. Anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AFC South, NFC East. We're in the nfc.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's go.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's the Eagles, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, Max, next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles? Max?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard is Godered Goddard.

[Max]

You were right the first time.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just Goddard.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, but it's spelled G O E D. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So it's spelled Godert, pronounced Goddard.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, Goddard.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We're drafting all the Eagles, man.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Every single one of them. And if I am offered a trade for A.J. brown, I'm just gonna click accept trade.

[Big Cat]

That feels like something we shouldn't telegraph, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Smokes. Yeah, we're just. We're putting out some disinformation right now.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For anybody listening in our. In that league.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You understand why I didn't make that trade, right? I mean.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the book. Yeah, because he read a book.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Man. Remember that? Max, I just want to say, I know everyone talks about Goddard, and by the way, I believe. Don't quote me on this. Leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles, but you know, when he won me over that triple stiff arm in the wild car weekend, man.

[Big Cat]

Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Incredible.

[Max]

Went back for more. He could have just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, I got to give you another props now that we're on the Eagles. I was staying at a. I don't know if they're a partner of the show. I was staying at a Marriott Bonvoy Hotel. Sorry if.

[Big Cat]

No, that's okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And there was an. I was just sitting in bed and there was like a Marriott channel and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial on because he's the spokesperson.

[Big Cat]

He's not usually on tv.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He was great. He was really good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I thought he had a really good personality.

[Max]

Talented guy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I watched that infomercial. It was like a 20 minute infomercial and I was riveted. Yeah, but it was good stuff. I mean, he's not playing anymore.

[Max]

Are you sure it wasn't just he has. He has a TV show. He has a late night show. He does Friday nights. Was it a Friday night?

[Jerry O'Connell]

What is it on espn?

[Max]

Espn.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sorry, guys, this is the. This is the only sports. I get all my sports.

[Big Cat]

You're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Love that, love that. Good point. Good point. Because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel.

[Big Cat]

Do you ever think like, do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man, if my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me.

[PFT Commenter]

Good question.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Good question. Good question. No, I try to just worry about my own lane.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Yeah. No, hey, listen.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, I'm. I'm here. My.

[Big Cat]

Good point.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Blew here, coach last night, middle seat.

[Big Cat]

Good point. That's. Good point.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Did you Raw Dog Fitness?

[Big Cat]

Did you raw dog it?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, I put on noise canceling headphones.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. I went to a Planet Fitness. I took a shit, I showered.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I came here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Living the dream.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fantasy team again next season? Isn't that something that he aspires to do? Why should he just like Mario Lopez.

[Big Cat]

Probably would be awesome as a fantasy.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a good looking guy too, isn't he?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Ageless.

[Jerry O'Connell]

NSC east commanders, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Still in the nfcs. Oh, man, I know I've said this before. If Scary Terry gets one more receiver, maybe Devonta Adams, maybe Tyler Lockett, who doesn't want to be in Seattle anymore. Tyree Kill, he would have a jamar chase. A jamar chase, like season.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. I think we will get a wide receiver. I think you can, you can bet on that going in next year. If we draft somebody in the first round or if we, we, we sign somebody in free agency, I think we will have a very good number two.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That Zach Ertz is so awesome too, man. So good. Hey, anybody see that video? I didn't hear you guys talk about it. Where Fletcher Cox. Max, you on Max? Max, Max.

[Max]

I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zachary Cox hugging Zach.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Ertz, man, that was. That was emo, man. Yeah, that was because it was like so. Because it's Fletcher Cox and he obviously can't pass the line and he's going, zach, Zach. It's like calling someone from the stands, you know, Zach. Oh, man, that was really emotional.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That moment.

[PFT Commenter]

I really like that Ertz not retired. He wants to make that very clear.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He shouldn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He was awesome, man. God, I love a Washington tight end. As well, Cooley, Vernon Davis, Logan Thomas, love him. Yeah. Maybe they draft that Matthew golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy. Or Savion Williams.

[Big Cat]

College football expert.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Ohio State.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody. Jaden and Terry. Oh, the Cowboys. Okay, this is interesting. I guess Dak is staying there because Coach Schottenheimer is now the head coach. Right. So I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think he really can move Dak. I think he probably has a no trade clause, right?

[Big Cat]

Oh, what would it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You could trade Titans.

[Big Cat]

Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach?

[PFT Commenter]

Zach Prescott?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Zach Prescott.

[Big Cat]

Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, I think Dak has the no trade, so I don't. He does know that he would leave.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, so he's staying there. I, I gotta tell you, that makes me not want to be a part of the Cowboys. I, I And by the way, you know, Jerry Jones is gonna, Jerry Jones, you know, T. Higgins is probably going there. Stefan Diggs, he's going to get Aaron Jones over there. Water is wet. The Dallas Cowboys are going to go 6 and 11. It's just, it's going to happen. I don't care who is over there. It's. We'll draft Brandon Aubrey. He seems to be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Very good their whole offense. All right, see. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Good job.

[PFT Commenter]

The best kicker of all time.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good kicker, Jerry O'Connell.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, okay. Let's get to the Giants. Still NFC east, right? I think the Giants have the most intriguing off season of any team in the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't mind the Giants. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Earlier, I think you called them the New York shitbag Giants.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, they had a terrible season. They were unwatchable and it's been that way for a couple of years. They have the third pick, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. I said earlier, they've, they've got to take Travis Hunter. There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterback.

[Big Cat]

No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy high.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's been on some, it's been on some mock drafts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. People talk about it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, they get Travis Hunter. Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants. He's got Travis Hunter, Malik, and that quarter, that running back, Tracy. Max, they're winning the NFC east next.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know about that.

[Max]

Wow, that's hell of a take.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Max, you hear those bells? Bing bong. Yeah. You hear footsteps? Maxi? Sam Darnold comes there. Travis Hunter, Malik, Tracy. They're winning the NFC East.

[PFT Commenter]

It's always a different team every year.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But they better not take that. Jalen Milroe. I've seen some. I've seen some mock drafts with them up there. Let's go to the NFC West. The Seahawks, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, God. All right. To prepare for this, I listened to about 20 fucking hours of Locked On Seahawks kill me now, because I really didn't know what was going on with them. And I'll tell you, if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went 10 and 7 last year. And I want to tell you, the only reason why that team went 10 and 7 is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach. All right, after my 19th hour of locked On Seahawks, it seems like Tyler Lockett is leaving, which leaves Jackson Smith, Najigba. I said that correctly.

[Big Cat]

I did.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was a little scary one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jackson Smith.

[PFT Commenter]

Ninja. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Max, if I memes, if I said anything, just beat me out. Okay? I'm really toeing the line there. Jackson, Smith, Najigba.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Say it three times fast.

[Big Cat]

No way, man.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No way. You're. No way. You're not gonna Michelle beetle me here.

[Big Cat]

No way, no way.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jsn.

[Big Cat]

How about just jsn?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No way, man. No way. Max, have your finger on the button. Okay. He's really intriguing. If Tyler Lockett leaves, okay, but you got to be careful. He only scored six touchdowns this season, and we need touchdowns if. If I'm going to be your fantasy manager and if we're going to win. Also. Gino Stain.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean, if? We said. We said that you were.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's. You're not getting fired. You just might have a boss.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The Cardinals, Kyler. I still love him. He's great. If he's around, we're going to draft him. Trey McBride is awesome. Michael Wilson was a real bummer. Thought he was going to do a little better. Yeah, Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something. I don't know what's happening there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're a pro. Marvin Harrison podcast. Just for the record, in case he happens to listen. Big fans.

[Big Cat]

Senior and junior, of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, both.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Love him.

[PFT Commenter]

Great family.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He had a mediocre fantasy season, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it was good.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. He's great.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm just saying, if he's Marvin Harrison.

[Big Cat]

All the Sherry O'Connell talking right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Lives in California, not in Chicago. Marvin Harrison.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I'm your fantasy manager and I want to say if she's there and we have a choice of another receiver, we're probably going of a great, cool sort of standing.

[PFT Commenter]

But we're trying to protect you. But if it's going to be you or us, it's. This is you saying that we're a team.

[Big Cat]

Sound mind and body.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We are a team.

[Big Cat]

He is consenting to anything Marvin Harrison Senior wants to do. Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We are. We are one. We are a team. So if someone's here in Chicago and I'm not here, they can come see you.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And our team.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no. Would you take a bullet? Force.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You? Probably let me, wouldn't you?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We'd throw you in front of it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's go to the Rams.

[Big Cat]

Not Mario, though.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Man, he looks so good, that guy. What does he do?

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, are you going to get into any superhero movies?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You should try to do that.

[Big Cat]

You should try to.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm the voice. I'm the voice of Superman in the animated Superman movies. A few of them. You can DC animation.

[Big Cat]

Okay. But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent, tell him Jerry's going to Marvel.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I mean, I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies.

[Big Cat]

Push a little harder.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I know, but you can want something all you want. It doesn't mean it's going to happen.

[Big Cat]

You know, it's kind of like us in a fantasy championship.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Jerry O'Connell, the Rams. We're taking all them. That receiving core, that Puka cup. And I gotta tell you, Robinson. Robinson had two, two TD games. Say that again.

[PFT Commenter]

Robinson.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I won't say Jackson Smith, Najigba fast, but I will say two. Two TD games. Two, Two TD games last season. Weeks eight and nine. Man, Robinson, he may be suspended a little bit. He did have a dwi, but, man, that receiving core is awesome. You know, I know.

[Big Cat]

I told you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I listened to 20 hours of Locked on Seahawks to do research of this. I also, I wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was, and I couldn't really find out any information, so I listened to about five episodes of Kelly Stafford's TimeOut podcast.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You got any Kelly Stafford as a podcast? Kelly, Matthew Stafford's wife. It's actually an interesting podcast. It's sort of. It's from the point of view of is. Is wag. It's not offensive.

[PFT Commenter]

Wives and girlfriends. Right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wags of football players. So it's sort of interesting. But I think the sixth episode I was on, Kelly got to talking about next season with her husband, and Kelly Stafford said this was exclusively on the TimeOut podcast. You don't mind if I mention others?

[Big Cat]

No, go for it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That Matthew Stafford texted her, let's talk about next season. So it sounds like he's coming back and Kelly is preparing herself for him to come back.

[Big Cat]

Because I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you would say, let's talk if it was. He's walking away.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But since he brought in next season.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, let's talk about it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So that means that next season exists.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Interesting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Brady didn't send that text, did he? No, no, he just did it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's. I mean, maybe he should have sent that text.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, I do want to say I did have a revelation in my seventh hour of timeout with Kelly. Kelly Stafford. You gotta admit, I do work for you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, I. Yeah, you put in the effort.

[Big Cat]

Effort is important.

[PFT Commenter]

It can take you so far. Also important, but it also takes you so far.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I was thinking, as your sort of fantasy expert here on part of my take, some people say to me, after they yell like, bing bong or stuff like that, or yell like maxi, they say like, hey, when are you getting a podcast? And, you know, I was like, yeah, like, when am I getting a podcast? Like, and then when I told you I was in the seventh hour of. Of Kelly Stafford's timeout, I was like, you know what, guys? I think. I think we've reached the end of the earth. I think we. I think there's all the pocket. I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, we've hit them all.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, be interesting, though, is like, if there was a WAGS podcast, but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers, and if there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying, and you want to start a podcast, I think Barstool Sports would probably be interested in producing that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, I might be in for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Hypothetically.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Bet you guys would like that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Follow me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But, yeah, just think we've hit critical mass with podcasts. You know, I just think it's over.

[Big Cat]

Y. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

BFFs, that's all about chicken fries, NDAs, armchair talks about everybody's sober, good. It's healthy, smart lists, actors talking, laughing at each other. I mean, Rogan's got the Ivermectin. What would. My lane. I don't even know what my lane would be.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, what saves America is Biden's all good. I mean, I don't even know what my lane would be. Yeah, I think that's it.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

49Ers. Man, how funny that we dodged that Christian McCaffrey bullet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we could have. We could have.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, I almost had the first.

[Big Cat]

We could have not won the championship.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But you know what? I got a problem with the Niners. And you know what? John lynch, obviously great at his job. They've been to two Super Bowls. Great at his job. What's going to happen with Brock Purdy?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Probably pay him money.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I understand that, but is John lynch going to John lynch and not. Is he not going to show up to camp. Like, remember the whole I. Because I think that whole Brandon Iuk thing tanked their season, set him on a bad path. Yeah. What happens there?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a. It's a. Interesting question because you would. You would think that he would want to be paid, like, more than Dak Prescott. In fact, Prescott is the highest paid player in the league. But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock your team's already making. You've got a lot of questions about who you keep around. And also you kind of owe Brock Purdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of Brock Purdy and all of the. All the picks you gave up to move up.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To get Trey.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. It's funny, I didn't even think about that. Look, I'm always just pay the players. You end up paying them anyway, so why keep them out? But John lynch plays hardball also, so we're. So we're going to stay away from the Niners also. I got to say, I don't know if it's like my age range, but, like, makes me think of the early 80s and I get, like, the colors. It gets kind of depressed. Like, I think of, like, cigarettes and earthquakes and just like, I don't know, they kind of depress me. It's always an afternoon game. All right. NFC North, Lions, all of them. The fact that Jameson Williams went so off weeks 16 and 17, it just opens up that entire offense. Just all of them. All of them. Every single one of them. I do think Coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17. I thought that was a big mistake. I thought it was a big mistake. I think it's why they're not playing in the Super Bowl. You know, it was so funny. I was thinking when Saquon watched Shipley score touchdown on Sunday, to see how pumped he got. Max, are you still on?

[Max]

I'm here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm here to see how pumped he got.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry's like Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety. He's like, max, Max, Max.

[Max]

He can also. I'm right here. You can. You can see me?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's cute, though. You get afraid that Max left.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think it would have pumped the whole team up, and I think they would have performed better against in the postseason. You know, I think it has a lot to do. I'm not kidding. And this is. This is part of my take. I gotta have a take.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think a lot of it has to do with Copenhagen. I Don't know if anyone has ever. I know we have, like, fans of Zinn out there and stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Lucy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, Lucy. Apologies.

[Big Cat]

That's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You want one?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, no, no. Let me. Let me try that again.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you should have one.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, no, no. Thank you. Thank you. I'm off the nick. You want a lip pillow? I know we're all fans of Lucy here.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Dude. Again. Three, two, one. Like, you know, Mario is like a super professional.

[Big Cat]

He does takes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He goes like this. He goes.

[Big Cat]

Well, he wouldn't that up.

[Jerry O'Connell]

3, 2, 1. I know we're all fans of Lucy here, and I gotta say, because Coach Campbell is a Copenhagen guy, I think that's been established in knocks, right. And if you don't know if you ever dipped, Copenhagen is like, it's the main line of chewing tobacco. It's not like strands. It's not like long. It's like fine bits that go right to. I mean, you're mainlining nicotine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's almost like drinking like, dark black Stella Blue coffee and throwing in a Lucy.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

Good job.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I think because he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going. No rest, all gas, no breaks. All gas, no breaks. And it. You don't have a natural sense of like, take a. Hey, fellas, let's take a break for a week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Take a beat.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I think that all gas, no brakes doesn't work. Vikings. What's going to happen there? Is JJ. Is JJ McCarthy going to be in good?

[Big Cat]

I think he's going to be good. I think Kevin O'Connell will make sure he's good.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. All right. I just. I just don't know. I mean, we'll wait till the preseason. Oh, Kirk Cousins maybe going there, going back.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. I think it's be JJ McCarthy maybe.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold Packers. Oh, Big Cat, this is going to excite you. Their receivers suck so bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think it's the receivers. I think it's the receivers. I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it. I mean, Kraft is good. You know, we're just staying away the Bears. Big Cat, you ready?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. None of them.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Are you ready?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How do you feel like do when you. When you're about to hear my. My take on. On your team?

[Big Cat]

I think you're gonna say none of them. So anything over none of them is a success.

[PFT Commenter]

He's 6 out of 10.

[Big Cat]

6 out of 10. Excited.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, it's so funny. I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever changing, especially these days with like hirings and everything. We were going to say none of them. Yeah, that they were poison. That they.

[Big Cat]

I expected that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They infected your team, Mr. Smith. They were the monkeypox of. They're the human papilloma virus of fantasy.

[Big Cat]

These are all fair.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But now that your coach is Ben Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, all of them. Oh, he fixed everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Turned around quick.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Roma Dunes A.

[Big Cat]

He's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The antidote is going to be Jameson Williams 2.0. He's going to have two. He's going to have a rushing and passing and he's going to have three touchdowns a game.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Shit.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's talk about drafts. The person who should have won the Heisman, Ashton Genty.

[Big Cat]

Is he.

[PFT Commenter]

Travis Hunter had a pretty good season.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if you could do. Should have Travis Hunter won the Heisman?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is this. What is this show called?

[PFT Commenter]

Part of my take.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm going to have a take.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Should have won the Heisman.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is he going to be a bear?

[Big Cat]

Possibly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

If he is a bear, can you imagine all the things that said about.

[Big Cat]

Him and having to interview him? Yeah, I've imagined.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Can you imagine what Coach Johnson is going to do with Ashton James?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's going to freaky with it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What happened with DeAndre Swift this. This season?

[Big Cat]

It was the offensive line. But also he's. He's not very good, I don't think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's a. There's a. A big difference between running behind the Bears offensive line and running behind the Eagles offensive line. I think that's what that showed us.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Maxi. NFC South Falcons. Okay, I have a question for you guys. If, by the way, I'm gonna. I'm gonna say it right now. I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager. I have to set. I have to set.

[Big Cat]

He's trying to flip it on set.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Boundaries. I won't work with someone else.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's just the three of us.

[Big Cat]

That makes our decision a lot easier here.

[PFT Commenter]

Do. Do not get along well with others.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I just. I don't want to be stuck with Brick. Isn't that Woody Johnson's kid?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

[Big Cat]

I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if it's Brick, you should have to Accept that.

[Big Cat]

It's Brick. We get Brick to do the. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hot flash.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's taking off. Do you still have that weird tuft of hair in your back?

[PFT Commenter]

Ah, it's getting hot in here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I just had a hot flash. You guys are making me go through menopause. I won't do it. I won't work with someone else. It's the three of us.

[Big Cat]

We'll take that into consideration.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Go call Mario Lopez. Go call the guys from Smart List.

[Big Cat]

They have a feel like Bar Lopez would be pretty damn good as a fantasy manager.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Go call Kelly Stafford. Go call my wife. Have them all we want to.

[Big Cat]

She doesn't follow us.

[Jerry O'Connell]

NFC South. Oh, here's a question for you guys. Yeah, I should probably start to wrap this up, right? This is going.

[Big Cat]

No, that's okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, let's start with the Atlanta Falcons. If a quarterback week 18 against the Panthers goes off, I'm talking two passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown goes off. Looks amazing. Are we drafting him in the 2025 season?

[Big Cat]

Talk about Michael.

[PFT Commenter]

Michael Pennix. I thought he looked pretty good.

[Big Cat]

I would maybe hold off maybe a late round backup guy. He's not your fantasy starter.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

What'd you see from him?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just that. See, here's the thing. It was week 18. It's like the last taste in your mouth. So you're like, oh, this guy. Yeah, I'm targeting him. No one else is watching this game.

[Big Cat]

I don't think we should base our projections on week 18.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is week 18. That's a pretty important fantasy week, right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Kyle Pitts is never going to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. That's the best point that you've made.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Starting to come around.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's growth.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Bucks man. Stephen Che is going to get so excited right now. Is getting some blood flow. All of them, Every single.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Baker, Evans, Chris Godwin before he got injured was like just having a record breaking season. Bucky, Irving, Cade, all of them. Oh, they have an offensive. Do they have an offensive coordinator yet?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're working on it.

[Big Cat]

They're working on it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is it that, that, that Grant guy from Minnesota they're working on.

[Big Cat]

They're basically calling anyone who's talked to Kevin O'Connell or.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Because if it's that Minnesota assistant. Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The Bucks are must traps, all of them.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They're about to have a lot of fun. Oh yeah, it might be that Marcus Brady guy too, who was the passing coach at the Chargers. Whoever it is, they're going to have Fun. All of them. Saints, none of them. Could you imagine a world where Alvin Camara is actually on like a team?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Be nice.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, what's. What's his contract situation? Why is he there?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they just didn't. They give him two year extension.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's just not happening.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think about Spencer Rattler?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No. No.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right, good. That. Good answer.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Panthers wrapping this up. Guys, can you believe Adam Thielen is still doing it?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's still doing. Out there doing it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, gosh, I know this has been a bad pronunciation. Chuba Hubbard, right? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's Chuba.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, Chuba.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Chuba Hubbard. Not Chubba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard is a must draft. He just, he's next season. If I'm still your manager. Not working with anyone else. I know in the past I've said we're old school, we got to get some running backs in the first like three rounds. We're going to wait till rounds four, five and six to get our running backs. And Chuba falls right into that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And my final take. I think Bryce Young is going to have a really good year.

[Big Cat]

Okay, I like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So that's it, guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So. So we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. We. We're going to need some time. But you're not allowed to interview anywhere.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing.

[Big Cat]

O. Yeah, yeah. We're going to block all interviews, but we're going to need some time to. To figure this out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

By the way, guys, I loved your take on that Jaguars hiring and saying like, hey, man, anything goes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's the NFL.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's. There are no friends.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Weird guy, though. Yeah. All right, so I have one last question for you, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, hold on a second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, no, my last question might be what you're going to do.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just hold on one second.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Are you all right? You hold on.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hang on.

[Big Cat]

Okay, I'll hold on.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, I gotta tell you, I don't think you're seeing much leadership from me. And I want to show you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're trying to strong arm. I like that. I like that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So what I have here is a roback poem.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Big Cat]

Take love that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What is a Q, zip quarter, zip, quarter, zip.

[Big Cat]

The HESI hoodie is incredible. The new Roback Hesi hoodie.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This is the Roback poem. This is a poem for memes. Memes, you there?

[Big Cat]

I'm here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Been a long time coming. That memes got his own poem. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But it's tough to compete with that TV setup you've got at home. It's got three TVs. Memes, he means he means he. Yes. All those TVs and stimulation could put people into sports media comas. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But we can say for certain Max won't be watching any college football with Tiffany Gomez. He blew it. Yes. The man has three TVs. His sports coverage one could not strengthen. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But maybe on one of those TVs, Max could watch his favorite show, the Penguin. Oh, he loves that show. Memesy means he means he.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Your shenanigans with Maxi are always such a hoot. Memesy, memesy, memesy. You're always a good friend to him. Making sure his toes stay warm in his walking boot. Tootsies get cold. We love hearing your electric voice. Never do you ever sound gassed. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Always bringing the energy for this national sports podcast. Memes. He means he means he. Such an essential part of the show. You truly are the can do man. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Always staying ready in case this sweatshop hits you with that important performance improvement plan.

[Big Cat]

Pimple these guys.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Memesy meansy, meansy. Yes, you're one of the greats like Mattingly, O'Neill and Mat Sui. Memesy, memesy, memesy. And you've lasted here way longer than our old friend Huey. Nothing, huh? No explanation. Memesy meansy, meansy. Speaking of things up PMT that we abruptly bid adieu to. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Whatever happened to that song Electric Avenue? Nothing, guys. No explanation. You're not gonna say anything? Huh? Nothing. Just. Just ignore it.

[Big Cat]

Means he means it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Means he. We kid the staff here. We don't want to be a total hater. Means he means he means he. We also don't want to set off alarms like you threatening to strap a bomb to your chest and go full Al Qaeda. You can't do that, Memes. You can't do that. It's not a joke. Memesy, memesy, memesy. You are pmt secret weapon. You're the glue. You're the special sauce. Memesy, memesy, memesy. And if you play your cards right, soon you can play golf all summer long and call yourself the boss. Thank you. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Yes, it'd be fun to call all the shots from the comfort of golf carts. Memesy, memesy, memesy. More fun than watching someone for a whole weekend just throw darts. Cool content, bro. Means he. Means he.

[Big Cat]

Means he.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yes, we love to hear you and Maxi in the booth with all the back and forth needlings. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Like what to do with Max and pft's hair. But careful around pft's. Brand new seedlings. Expensive. Memesy, memes and memesy. For so much of this show, it is you that we have to thank. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Even if you're continually threatening to physically fight Max and Hank. Memesy, memesy, memesy. To the man of many talents and those talents you love to lend. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Perhaps that anger would abate with the presence of a girlfriend. Hope she likes TVs means he meansy. We all know you are capable of showing affection toward a special girl with a sense of humor and perhaps long, luscious hair. Memesy, memesy, memzee. That has been evident in the love and care you've shown Mr. Pear. You love that turtle. Memesy, memesy, memesy. You take such good care of Mr. Pear and all the pets that we neuter and we spay. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But if you start dating that young lady chicken fry, don't ask her to sign an NDA. Don't do it. She doesn't like those. Memesy mezy meansy. We love hearing your optimism regarding the jets even in a season filled with strife. Means he, means he, means he. And I want to thank you for being the only one here who hasn't talked about jerking off to my wife. Guys. So memes. He means a memezy. We love you, your wit and your delivery that is oh so very dry. Memesy, memesy, memesy. You will always be. Pardon my. Takes number one, turtle guy.

[Big Cat]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's great, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

That was a beautiful poem. You're the best, Jerry. So you're the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Me and big cat need to have some discussions offline. Yeah, put a pin in it. We'll circle back. You've given us a lot to think about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you know, I'll say this. No matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team, I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together. And I look back at it and think of nothing but positives.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tell me to grab my playbook and go see coach.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no, no, no. But I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I gotta thank my friends Richard and Ryan, who helped me write that poem. They're huge awls.

[Big Cat]

Sony exec.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Don't. Don't say where it works.

[Big Cat]

Shout out Richard and Ryan.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We're big fans. I love you guys. Whatever you guys decide to do, I'll be okay with. You know, well, maybe BFFs has a fantasy team that they want me to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Not win a championship with. We're results. We're results. All right. Love you, Jerry. You're the best.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Third place. Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Max]

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[Big Cat]

Congrats.

[Max]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Max]

It could be.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

I am looking at them right now.

[PFT Commenter]

What are we looking at with the game Time picks feature right now?

[Hank]

I mean, it's still early, but right now I'm looking at the cheapest seats you get in for around 4, 200 bucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, well, it is the big game.

[Hank]

The biggest game.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Nice.

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's wrap up the show. Guys on chicks with a wrinkle. Guys on chicks about getting old. Because this is the last episode you'll be listening to with us in our 30s. Yeah, it's basically been. This show has been basically the entire decade of our 30s.

[PFT Commenter]

I've been, I've been worried about turning 40 since I turned 30. And then I was so worried when I turned 39 that I feel like now I'm not. I've. I'm already there.

[Big Cat]

I, I'm in a. I. I definitely like starting to feel it. Just like physically. I think I have plantar fasciitis, which sucks. Didn't even know. My heel just hurts. This is all self diagnosed. I'm not gonna see a doctor. I think I'm just gonna get a shitload more tattoos. Yeah, I think that's just kind of how I'm gonna deal with this. Not gonna. I don't really have any other outs.

[Hank]

I was actually getting a little sentimental last night because I realized I'm gonna do a little bit longer. But I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. For.

[Hank]

Yeah, 10 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

On the dot.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Pounded Mad dogs. Now we're drinking malort.

[Hank]

We've said it on the show before. I have, I know I have and obviously I'm 30 now. But I do remember like Big Cat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday. I was like, damn, he's 30. He still got it. Like, he's old.

[Big Cat]

Don't got any.

[Hank]

And now I'm older than that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also very funny because of 21. The first time David PFT met, I think my. My words. I think I said, I was like, this is pft. He's super talented. Like, he does the misspellings and. And like, he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff. But you're serious. He's joking. And it was just like, what I don't get.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't get it.

[Hank]

We got to do it for 50 now, too.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[Hank]

Well, I'm saying now it's like 10 every 10 years.

[Big Cat]

Wait, but what are we doing for 40?

[Hank]

Case race.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, Case race it.

[PFT Commenter]

I've been.

[Big Cat]

I've been retaining this right before the case.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm pre hungover for the case race since Monday.

[Big Cat]

Oh, me too.

[PFT Commenter]

Anxiety going into it. I get real bad anxiety when I'm hungover. Very, very bad. Yeah, crippling. Now, I used to be able to. Yeah. Until I was 34, wake up the next day, feel okay. Now it's like I have that hangover anxiety. But I had it on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night.

[Big Cat]

I'm just happy the whole. The whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, pft, myself. You can watch the yak case race on Friday. It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this. And. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm miserable already about just thinking about it. Although I did find out I have a steam shower. Been living in my house for a year and a half. Just figured this out.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

Pretty cool. So I'm gonna steam it up tomorrow morning.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna hit the sauna. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

[Big Cat]

I, like, I pressed the buttons, like, does this do anything? And then steam just started coming out of my shower.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a question for you guys.

[Max]

This is the richest shit ever.

[Big Cat]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Max]

Like, I have this sick feature of my. In my house.

[Big Cat]

I didn't know for a year and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a glory.

[Big Cat]

I got a worse one. When I moved into my house, I. My wife was like, do you. Do you like our house? Like, any complaints? Like, I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor. And she's like, two's not enough. And I was like, where's the second? She's like, you idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

I. When I moved in, I was like, yeah, what's what's this hole in my wall in the shower for? I just found out last week. You can come through. It's pretty good. I got a question for the young kids. Young kids on the show. So the booth, not you, Hank, you're old. What is over the hill is over the hill 40? Or is it 50? Or is it 30 now that the Internet, like everybody online, is under the age of 20?

[Max]

I thought I was about to go over the hill.

[Hank]

30 was the energy shift. 30 was like, I'm old now. It's. It's impossible to even, you know, go through the motions as I did, because I've, you know, know, been going through what feels like the same motion since I was, you know, 18, 19. Once you hit 30, it's like I. I should be doing something else. Like, I'm over the hill.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But I. I remember when I was growing up, I think 40 was over the hill. And then I thought 50 might have been over the hill, But I think now 40 at least, maybe 30, I.

[Big Cat]

Think, because I've thought about this way too much, and it's probably better.

[Hank]

You having kids changes things, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm, like, actually providing, and I have three things that are gonna be my future, so definitely changed my perspective. But the. I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like, you know, someday people are just gonna stop listening to us. But I love doing the show. I want to do it forever. I think what I've come to grips with is, pft. You can follow me here. I think, for the next. I think we still got it for about four or five years. Then I think it's going to be a tough couple years where people just on us. And then I think in our late 40s, we're gonna get funny again by saying stupid and forgetting it. And people like. But, man, they're so funny because they're so old and dumb.

[PFT Commenter]

We're speedrun the league. Horso R. Yeah, right, right.

[Big Cat]

I think that will be our late 40s. And also I get in my own head. Like, we obviously have listeners of all ages, and I appreciate all of them, but it is crazy to think about, like, we've been doing this for so long. Like, people have just gotten older with us.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think one thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show, it wasn't just people that were younger than us that listen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of people that are.

[Big Cat]

Older, but they also all like if you were 25 when you started listening to this, you're 34 now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean? Like that's, that's a little comforting. Like people have grown up with us.

[PFT Commenter]

I just like the idea of a 70 year old out there when we turned 45, listening. Be like, these guys are so out of touch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I still feel young. I just.40 is definitely. It's more the fact. Fact that I don't think I'm going to live much past 70, 75, so I'm past halfway. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess what, that's what's. That's what over the hill means.

[Big Cat]

That's what's me up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Where it's like, I do the math and I'm like, oh, I'm on the. I'm on the 11th hole.

[PFT Commenter]

Can somebody.

[Big Cat]

That's where, that's where I'm getting a little up.

[PFT Commenter]

Can someone explain to me, Give me something to look for. What's sort. What are some things that you get better at that after you turn 40?

[Big Cat]

I think, I think the number one thing is giving less of a. That's the number one thing with age that is so much better. Where it's like I start dressing better, but it's like, I don't care. I got kids, I got a good life. I don't give a.

[Max]

Playing bingo.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's a good one.

[Big Cat]

Thanks, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, what'd you say memes? Don't you guys have to get your.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Finger up your ass now?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, memes actually like rooting for us to die. It's. It's crazy. No, I think is.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The prostate check.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think they got technology down now where they can just do like a laser.

[PFT Commenter]

Stick a laser up your ass.

[Big Cat]

No, I think they just shoot a laser at your body and they're like, you're good or you're bad.

[Max]

I also old school that the 9 is worse than the actual like turning 29. Turning 39.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm saying.

[Max]

Than the actual.

[Big Cat]

Well, if it's anything like turning 30, turning 30 I was scared about. And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again. Because everyone is in their late 30s and I'm in my early 30s.

[Max]

Since I've turned 30 or since I've turned 29, I've just been like, oh, I'm 30.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

But like once I was 28, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 20s. But then once you turn 29, it's like, oh, yeah, I're in my 30s. And then once you actually turn 30, it's like, oh, yeah, I've been in this mindset for a year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. It hits and you're like, it's exactly the same.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But we're gonna.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think we're gonna, I think it's gonna suck for like a week. And then we're like, you know what it. And also, you can, you can just be like, I can't go. I, I'm not going out and I'm not getting drunk. I'm. I'm 40. I'm old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I still feel like I'm like, we're gonna get a young, we're gonna young buck. I was thinking maybe I, I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday's show. I'm thinking more like, like 13.

[PFT Commenter]

Adopt, break some laws. Let's adopt a child.

[Big Cat]

I want some 13 year old takes. All right.

[Hank]

Is being a football fan better when you get older, or was it better when you were younger? Obviously you have gambling now, but you had so much time to potentially win a Super bowl as a kid. Is the, your team winning a Super bowl window the male equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up? Help me out here. I just turned 27.

[Big Cat]

27 is the perfect age, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think we talked about this one before. If you're a kid, if you're like 10 years old winning titles, it's like, that's the center. That's all you care about. Like, Hank, you were saying that when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball. Right. That's got to be sweet if you're a kid. If you're like in your 20s, you can party, you can celebrate, you can, like quit your job, essentially, if your team wins a Super bowl because you're like, I'd kind of like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate in your 30s. I don't think it would be as fun.

[Big Cat]

I think the kids thing then comes back in. Yeah. Yeah. Where like, if you can, if you have kids and you can share it with them, that's cool too.

[Hank]

As someone who won a dynasty as a kid and a dynasty as an adult, I would, I would, I would have to say the adult one was.

[Big Cat]

You were on Joe Missoula's duck boat.

[Hank]

Yeah, well, no, I'm talking strictly dynasty.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. That was pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

You've got 2D. You're in different dynasty areas.

[Hank]

All I care about was baseball. The Red Sox had the greatest comeback in.

[Max]

I got history, all this.

[Big Cat]

You got to win a Super bowl this year.

[Hank]

That was fun, too.

[Big Cat]

Got to win. It's tough.

[Hank]

It's a tough question.

[PFT Commenter]

I also think that if you're like, 95, then it becomes great again and.

[Big Cat]

News story on you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then.

[PFT Commenter]

Then you cry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Max, you got to win a Super Bowl.

[Hank]

High school, senior. End of. End of senior year. Bruins. Won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable. Love the Bruins.

[Big Cat]

Max, what's going to change about you if you win a Super bowl this year?

[Hank]

You're not winning a Super Bowl.

[Max]

I'll be a winner.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, are you going to, like. We won't be able to. To. To make fun of you the same way.

[Max]

I know it'll be great. It'll be awesome. It'll be the best, but it's not gonna happen. It's just.

[Big Cat]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

It.

[Max]

It's just the same.

[Big Cat]

I'm so. I just want to flash forward to Sunday.

[Max]

If I get another. I can't get another second place.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you gonna let Hank just dump.

[Big Cat]

On you like this future on the birds.

[Hank]

And I know it's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a donation.

[Max]

It was a one and a half point spread. That's what I just keep telling myself.

[Big Cat]

Then cash out, Hank.

[Max]

It's a one and a half point spread.

[Big Cat]

Cash out so much.

[Hank]

No, fuck that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I want the birds. But I just know, like, I just know.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's going to happen after the super bowl if you win and how happy you're going to be. Have you. Have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose?

[Max]

Yeah, I'm very familiar with that place. That's the thing. It's not like it's going to be some. Something that I can't imagine. I'm there. I'm there, like, every 18 months. So, yes, I. I have thought about it, and I know exactly what it's going to feel like, and it's not going to be good.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Why is it that as I get older and get into my first real job working around adults, they care more about what I do with my outside life than when I was in college. Yeah, I thought as you get older, people care less about drama and petty things, but it's the total opposite.

[Big Cat]

No, it's vicarious.

[Hank]

Well, yeah. The less you go out and have a social life, then you just spend your time. Time talking about other people.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they also get to lie about what they used to do when they were younger. So they hear you be like, oh, yeah, I went out and I partied on Friday night. They're like, yeah, I used to, you know, start Friday night in Sunday night, sometimes some beers, Monday morning going into work. They like to just exaggerate how, how much action they had when they were your age.

[Big Cat]

Stanford Steven Rossillo had a very funny conversation about this, about how they would like go for the show when they were doing with svp. And SVP would always like, go back to the hotel and they would go out and then SVP the next day would just be like, tell me everything that happened. And I remember listening to that and being like, oh, man. And I'm that guy. I'm the go to the hotel and then just be like, give me.

[Hank]

You don't really care, though.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't care as much.

[Hank]

Like, you're not, you're not nosy or like.

[Big Cat]

No, I just want to go to bed.

[Hank]

Yeah, more than you're not gossipy?

[Big Cat]

No, because it's like, I also can't keep track of anything. I always find out the gossip in the office. Absolutely. The last person, like, the last person. I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me.

[Hank]

At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime? Because it feels like every time I throw a ball on of any kind, I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out. I'm. I'm like approaching my athletic prime.

[Big Cat]

Are you? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought your athletic prime was like 27, maybe yours.

[Big Cat]

I don't think it's like, there's nothing. I mean, obviously there's a lot of shit I can't do when I, when I do throw. Yeah, that, that's definitely one where it's like, if you throw like we had a mound out there for opening day last year, and I threw as hard as I could like four times, and I thought my arm was gonna fall off. I think for me it's more. I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday and I just stand at the three point line. I'm just like, I don't really want to go. Go down low and get elbowed and bang around. That's a big one.

[Hank]

I think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called. But the skiing for me, like, I used to like skiing, but I, when I was a kid and younger and young adult, I had a very. I Have a very reckless ski style where I just bomb down the hill, not a great stopper. And it was always like, just go straight and eventually you'll get a, you know, you'll slow down. But speed was never a concern. Now when I even think about skiing, I'm like, like, I don't, I don't want to do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But I know how I ski and how I've like always skied.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's like you can't, you can't be scared if you're gonna do it like that.

[Big Cat]

Here's the big one. The big part of getting old, I've noticed for athletic stuff is you're just way more conscious of getting injured.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you're scared. Yeah. That's what you're explaining right now. Like, I am so scared of getting injured because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25 is so vastly different. Different.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it's. At this age you collect injuries. So if you get injured, that's going to be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where you, you break a leg and you're like, well, now my leg is never going to work the same ever. Whereas if you get injured when you're 25. Yeah. Give me, give me a month. I'll be back.

[Big Cat]

I still hold out hope that someday I'm just going to. When I'm like, not working as much, maybe like start doing yoga and just get like, just really flexible.

[Hank]

Yoga's impossible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So the real.

[Big Cat]

I want to go to that stretch lab place. Have you gone? Yeah, yeah. Wait, where they just stretch you?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

My real answer to that question, though was when, When I first had my back injury. When your back hurts for the first time, that's when you know, way past your athletic prime.

[Big Cat]

Kidney stones too. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kidney stones is an old guy thing. Yeah. When I was doing the, the kicking thing at the, the barstool bowl and all I had to do was make a 35 yard field goal and I was training for it. I was kicking like 36 yards. And two years ago I was kicking 45 yards. At that point I was like, it's never coming back.

[Big Cat]

Also, I'll say it, just standing up for a really long time is just like, I, I want to sit.

[Hank]

I took 40, 000 steps during the dart stream. That was one thing I didn't mention.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Thanks for mentioning it.

[PFT Commenter]

Beast.

[Hank]

Also almost threw my arm out, so. Yeah, I guess that's a sign too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Maybe. Athletic peak.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the comments from the people calling you a for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours.

[Hank]

Throw darts for 10 hours, tell me how your arm feels. And then if you still feel like I'm A, I will accept it.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna.

[Hank]

Until then, I'm gonna defend the chat.

[Big Cat]

In this, in this case, just that every time I watch someone else do something hard, I'm like, that's so easy. Yeah, your brain just says that like someone does, like an eating challenge. I'm like, I could do that. And when you're sitting and watching, start. Yeah.

[Hank]

Like if you sit and watch someone for two hours, not you do nothing, but if you're standing and doing something for two hours, like, like it, it takes a toll. Tired.

[Big Cat]

When Jerry did his first hole in one stream, I was like, how is he so sore? Swing a club 2,000 times and find out. But in your head you're just like, this looks so easy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, big cat.

[Hank]

Pft.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[Hank]

And America's team Max. Someone who recently graduated college. How do I figure out what will be my career? When will I know? Also, how come as soon as I finished college, hangovers instantly became so much worse? Course, thanks for all that you guys do. I'd love to throw my hat in the ring for your next intern.

[Big Cat]

Looks like he wants a career.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Get ready, buddy, because the hangovers are.

[Hank]

Gonna get us up. Five years ago, before you entered college.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean that. I think that's a very personal question. Depending on who you are, like, how will you know when your, your job is the one that you want? I think if you just, if you enjoy it, if you truly like it, if you like thinking about it when you're not working there, that's, that's probably a pretty good sign. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

My only advice for someone like that is you have, have more time to figure it out than you think. Because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college, especially because there's going to be a couple of your friends that go right into some high paying job or, or crushing it. And you're like, I'm behind. You can, you can switch jobs and find, try something new and, and do different things. You have, you have, you have time to up in, in, not like up up, but like, like you have time to do something for a couple years and be like, you know what? This isn't for me. Yeah, you might have to take a step back, but that's where the time comes in. Like taking a step back when you're in your 20s is not as hard as taking a step back when you're in your 30s or 40s and you have kids and a family and a house and all that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of your life.

[Big Cat]

Pretty much, you don't figure it out. So you have kids because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Would Robert De Niro say in here, he never gets so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less? That's how you should feel about your job until you're like, 27?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Robert De Niro, look at him. He's still having kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And she had a great ass.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Why is it so far away from the stream yesterday? Ah. Okay, I got it. No, no, I got it.

[PFT Commenter]

He can still. He can still do this. Hank, I got it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're trying to.

[PFT Commenter]

That was an old man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Let me get that for you, sir.

[Big Cat]

All right, numbers.

[Max]

3, 11, 99.

[Jerry O'Connell]

POG. 40.

[PFT Commenter]

92.

[Big Cat]

What'd you guess last time, memes?

[PFT Commenter]

3.

[Big Cat]

No, no, you guessed something else.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess 3.

[Big Cat]

Was it 11. Who gets 11?

[Max]

I always guess 11.

[Big Cat]

59 for the Super Bowl.

[Max]

44.

[PFT Commenter]

Make your time.

[Big Cat]

54. That.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Is that the super bowl you won, Max?

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[Jerry O'Connell]

The P54.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys. Sa it.