Knicks To The Finals, Wemby Domination, Saints RB Travis Etienne, Saints Safety Justin Reid, Who’s Back Of The Week And More

Summary

Pardon My Take - Knicks To The Finals, Wemby Domination, Saints RB Travis Etienne, Saints Safety Justin Reid, Who’s Back Of The Week, And More

Release Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy, take-loaded episode of Pardon My Take, Big Cat and PFT Commenter dive into a sports-filled long weekend, covering everything from the Knicks' historic run to the NBA Finals, debate over analytics and "loser quotes," Wemby's playoff brilliance with the Spurs, and a healthy dose of fan/celebrity antics. The show features packed interviews with New Orleans Saints RB Travis Etienne and safety Justin Reid, wide-ranging Who’s Back of the Week segments, and the usual mix of humor, wild analogies, and group banter that defines PMT.

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Key Topics & Segments

Knicks Advance to the NBA Finals

[03:23 – 21:11]

• Knicks Dominance: Knicks dominate the Cavs, advancing to the NBA Finals after an "11-game win streak" and “absolute destruction in game four.”

  • Big Cat: "It was over after the first ten minutes."
  • Memes: "Knicks are the best team in the NBA." [04:47]
  • PFT: "At this point, why not the Knicks? They are playing perfect basketball." [16:18]

• Landry Shamit's Heroics: "Landry Shamit is like the greatest shooter of all time," says PFT [05:05]; Big Cat credits OG Anunoby for defense [05:26].

• Coaching, Analytics & “Loser Quotes”:

  • Cavs coach Kenny Atkinson's claim that "analytically, we’ve won two of the games" [05:47] draws major mockery.
    • PFT: "That is the biggest loser quote that has ever been uttered in professional sports." [06:14]
    • Big Cat: "In basketball it’s worse... everything on the court happens because of what you’re doing..." [06:54]
  • Hosts compare “expected points” logic to golf, soccer, and absurd life scenarios.

• Fan/Celebrity Culture:

  • Dan Gilbert keeping celebrities off Cavs’ courtside as a “petty power move.” [12:50]
  • Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift cameo: “If you bring your girlfriend to watch the Cavaliers and James Harden... and she says, ‘yeah, that sounds like fun.’ That’s love.” – PFT [13:20]
  • Potential for the Knicks to become "America's team," unless facing the Spurs or media ruins the fun with overexposure [18:54].

NBA Western Conference Playoffs & Wemby

[21:55 – 36:10]

• Thunder vs Spurs Series:
  • Recap of Thunder’s resilience (“took punch, won convincingly”) and Wembanyama’s dominance (“Wemby was like I'm the best player alive”) [21:55–23:37].
  • Steph Castle called “an absolute menace” [23:05].
  • Big Cat: "When he hit that three at the end of the first half—game over. I knew it was going." [23:19]
• Atmosphere & Broadcast:
  • Praise for San Antonio crowd, NBC broadcast, and fan antics (e.g., fans with Oscars for flopping, the 'Jackals' section, nuns, and “perfectly framed” fans behind the bench) [24:25–24:52].
  • “Titties behind the bench” bit: PMT debates if guaranteed wildness would help sports streaming. “You don’t want to miss the titties in the wild. That’s the magic.” [25:18–26:17]
• Flopping, Hate & NBA Discourse:
  • SGA’s flopping and its viral spread on social media discussed; hosts emphasize overblown hate [27:15–30:28].
  • Thunder described as “awesome for the NBA,” because a “hateable” team adds passion to the playoffs [31:27].

USMNT Email Drama & EPL

[40:56 – 46:14]

• US Soccer Cuts by Email: PMT criticizes USMNT for cutting players via email instead of phone calls.
  • Big Cat: “I would also imagine maybe some people didn’t get the email—it went to spam.” [41:24]
  • Debate if it signals poor organization.
• Relegation, Soccer Fans & Momentum Bit:
  • Big Cat trolls EPL fans about “momentum” and West Ham’s future.
  • Notable stat: First top-flight English soccer season in 138 years without a team starting with 'W' [44:16].

Indy 500 & Enhanced Games

[47:14 – 71:14]

• Indy 500 Climax:
  • Recapped as "balls to the wall" and “incredible” (winner: Felix Rosenqvist).
  • Connor Daly “had the highest expected miles per hour.”
  • PFT digs into how weather (“cooler air”) affected race outcomes.
• Enhanced Games Bust:
  • The much-hyped ‘all-drugs-allowed’ sports event didn’t break meaningful records ("these guys just sucked"). [67:53–71:14]
  • “It turns out getting a bunch of guys who lost as regular athletes—they’re still not better than the best athletes.” – PFT [70:50]
  • Airplay for Brian Johnson (“umbrella guy,” “my girlfriend’s got the best vagina”): “He just likes the fame.” – Big Cat [70:09, 70:25]

Who’s Back of the Week

[66:54 – 87:01]

• Joey Chestnut: Returns to Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest after legal drama. “America’s back.” – PFT [67:08]
• Hamburgers/Cheeseburgers:
  • PFT declares the “Summer of burgers,” vows to eat 100+ burgers, possibly 200, by Labor Day: “I just love cheeseburgers, and I love grilling, and it’s fucking awesome.” [76:27]
  • Smashburger backlash: "I think smash burgers are fake. They’re not real burgers." – PFT [78:04]
• Oral Health Hack: Inspired by Bryce Harper’s technique (squirting toothpaste directly into the mouth), prompting a studio debate on dental hygiene [71:14–74:13].
• Johnny Manziel: Wins a celebrity kickboxing match (“Is he gonna fight again?”), with comedic commentary on the low skill but high entertainment. [87:01]

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Featured Interviews

Travis Etienne – New Orleans Saints RB

[92:25 – 125:07]

• Homecoming & Name Pronunciation:
  • On correcting “Etienne”: “I was trying to correct everybody... Then at that point, you just gave up.” [94:13]
  • Happy to be back in Louisiana, where everyone will say his name correctly. [94:56]
• College & NFL Journey:
  • Turned down LSU for Clemson (“formation/offense didn’t fit my body type”), was “never worried about what people outside thought.” [95:30]
  • Crushing LSU in New Orleans ("close family rooted for me, but extended family–more Tigers"). Only got "two touches in the second half" of the title game. [97:22]
• Transition to NFL:
  • Describes league adjustment: “NFL was the hardest football has ever been for me... Everyone gets paid millions to play.”
  • NFL is about “learning football above the shoulders.” [98:53]
• Jacksonville Pool & Family/Food:
  • On the in-stadium pool: “I wish I could get in that pool, honestly. It’d be hot.”
  • Favorite home meal: "Gumbo... or red beans with fried pork chops."
• Versatility, Career Accomplishments:
  • High school stat: “400 yards, six touchdowns, loss. 11 tackles. I was playing both ways.” [106:37]
  • "Running back position is making a comeback" in the NFL. [109:09]
  • Unique, duck-footed running style allows sharper cuts ("my feet were always like this growing up") [109:50]
• On Urban Meyer:
  • Skirted drama with “coach’s finger video”—"I ain’t gonna spend too much on that." [118:05]
• Keeping Game Balls:
  • Indifferent: “I appreciate them, but I want a Super Bowl.”
  • Names his son "Saint" before knowing he’d sign with the Saints. [115:51]

Justin Reid – New Orleans Saints Safety, 2x Super Bowl Champ

[126:58 – 170:03]

• Incredible Grit:
  • Tore his labrum in 2nd year, played entire season with a red "no contact" jersey during practice: “Anytime I made a tackle, my guy behind me knew to run on the field because I’d have to come out. My shoulder would go numb. Wait until I could do push ups...” [127:16–128:28]
  • Rehab involved “Frankenstein” surgery: "They couldn't fix it. They just took it out and did a Latarjet procedure." [128:34]
• Nerdy Interests:
  • Engineering at Stanford, “whole family went to LSU, but I wanted to make a name for myself.” [131:17]
  • Chess player, current rating: "A modest 1500." Reigning NFL Blitz Chess champion. [134:41]
  • Obsessive research interests: Planes, photography/videography, real estate (licensed in Florida). [136:40, 138:02, 154:28]
• Kicking & Versatility:
  • Emergency kicker, made a 65-yarder in practice: “Half of the kickoffs I’ve done, I’ve made the tackle.” [143:32]
• Chiefs, Mahomes, and the Spags Effect:
  • Stories on Andy Reid and Mahomes, defense’s role in Super Bowls.
  • On Spagnuolo’s defensive genius: “We’d install special plays for teams but not call them till the fourth quarter.” [146:09]
  • “Cranberry award”—best defensive hit wins pasta cooked by Spags’ wife. [146:44]
  • On Dolphins’ playoff loss due to cold: “You guys want to win pregame, you got it.” [148:12]
• Off-Field & Family:
  • Mom played linebacker/full pads for the Baton Rouge Wildcats: “She’d be the first voice I could hear. ‘Get up!’” [158:29–159:39]
• On Tyler Shough (Saints QB):
  • “Everyone in the locker room gets along with him... throws a bullet. Charismatic guy.” [167:28]

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Notable Quotes & Viral Moments

• On analytics excuses:
  • “That is the biggest loser quote that has ever been uttered in professional sports.” – PFT on Kenny Atkinson [06:14]
• On being a Knicks fan right now:
  • “Moments in your sports watching career where you gotta realize, this is your year and you just have to enjoy it.” – Memes [20:38]
• On Knicks’ bandwagon:
  • Big Cat: "I think that the Knicks might be America’s team." [19:30]
• On Wemby’s rise:
  • "Wemby might be just that good... they could win it all with a team under 25." – Big Cat [34:23]
• On USMNT email cuts:
  • “An email to get cut from the US men’s national team is a kind of ridiculous way to find out.” – PFT [41:08]
• On enhanced games’ failure:
  • “It turns out getting a bunch of guys who lost as regular athletes—they’re still not better than the best athletes.” – PFT [70:50]
• Travis Etienne on Louisiana food:
  • "No matter what, that food in there is gonna make me feel great." [102:01]
• Justin Reid on chess:
  • “If you start hitting like 1900, 2000, then you’re like intermediate master, you start approaching Grandmaster.” [134:56]

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Timestamps of Other Notable/Memorable Segments

• [56:05] – Cubs and Nationals baseball talk, “Booth boys baseball takes”
• [57:08] – Curse talk, Cubs “Billy Goat” anniversary
• [57:58] – TMZ “juicy fart” headline saga & cease-and-desist jokes for Hank Lockwood (“leg crossing, physics, not a fart”)
• [66:54] – Who’s Back of the Week intro
• [76:20] – PFT’s "burger summer" rant
• [87:01] – Johnny Manziel fight recap

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Segment: Who’s Back of the Week – Full List

• Joey Chestnut
• Enhanced Games (fail)
• Summer burgers
• Oral hygiene
• Johnny Manziel (celebrity fight)

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Final Notes / Tone

• Episode is classic PMT: chaotic, raucous, inside jokey, and loaded with running gags and sports/fan culture satire.
• The group is in peak “flow state” with marinated takes after a few days off; hosts encourage listeners to “put your poncho on” for the incoming overload.
• Several meta-threads: ad reads woven with jokes, in-studio banter about tech mishaps, and frequent riffing on what it means to be a “true fan” or “analyst.”
• Maintains the show’s trademark blend of irreverence, authenticity, and postmodern sports talk.

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Recommended Segments (for Listeners with Limited Time)

• [03:23–21:11]: Knicks Playoff Deep Dive + Cavs Coaching Meltdown
• [21:55–36:10]: Wemby, Thunder-Spurs, Playoff Energy & Sports Fandom
• [92:25–125:07]: Interview with Travis Etienne
• [126:58–170:03]: Interview with Justin Reid

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— End of Summary —

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, pardon my take, listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Okay, guys, it's grit week. This is the part of the football calendar where nobody's watching but everything gets built. Early mornings, pads back on conditioning, film reps. Spring training in football is all about putting in the work when nobody's cheering yet. And, and honestly, that's the same mindset behind the Chevy Silverado. This is a truck that is the definition of grit. Long days, dirty work and showing up day after day no matter the conditions. Strong, dependable, and built for the grind. Because grit isn't about being flashy. It's about being ready when it's time to go. Check out the current offers and build your [e-mail] that's Silverado. All grit, no quit. And you can build your [e-mail] today on today's part of my take presented by DraftKings. We've got a two for. For the people, our grit week interviews. We got two more incredible interviews. Travis a chain formerly Etienne and Justin Reed. Awesome talking to both of those guys. We also have. I'm gonna say it right now. I'm gonna call my shot. I'm Babe Ruth. I'm calling my shot. I think it's going to be an incredible part of my take today because we've got take build up. We've got marinated takes. We have an extra day off Memorial Day. We had so much sports the last four days since we last were together that we have take build up and it's got to go somewhere. So. So it's going to go into your ears.

[Big Cat]

I'm backed up. It's about to explode.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a lot of taste.

[Big Cat]

It's going to explode. It's going to be messy. It's going to be like, you know, smashing a watermelon in the front row. So put your, put your poncho on.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

My take.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Tuesday, May 26th, and the New York Knicks are off to the NBA Finals after a commanding two games to two games victory in the eastern conference finals. So congrats to the Knicks. Yeah. Teams. You did it. You won 2 to 2. How do you feel, Zach? The boys, they're buzzing. Absolute destruction in game four. H. We're. We're taping this with 4:33 left in the third quarter.

[Big Cat]

It was over after the first 10 minutes of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

It was over after the first game, which we sit correctly s credit to everyone in the world who said it, but when the Cavs blew the first game, this series was over.

[Big Cat]

But boys, I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was. It was over at that point. But then tonight there was a brief moment pre game where I thought they were going to get the gentleman sweep because they brought deli out and deli is the break glass in case of emergency grit level that I thought they would play with a little bit more pride for deli. They did not.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, meme, Zach, how we feeling? Your team is in the NBA finals again. Apologies that you only did it winning two of the four games. But still incredible. Incredible series.

[Zach]

Series almost wrapped here. They got three up, third quarter here. Boys are playing strong right now. Big cat, they're looking good. Like guys getting outclassed. Like guys getting out bodied.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Memes]

I don't think I've ever been able to say this. Knicks. Knicks are the best team in the NBA.

[PFT Commenter]

They are right now. They are the best team in the world. They've won 11 games in a row. This will be the 11th. They are basically playing perfect basketball. Everyone is. Landry Shamit is like the greatest shooter of all time.

[Justin Reed]

He's.

[PFT Commenter]

He just. They just keep on bringing him in in the fourth quarter. He just goes like 3 for 3, 4 for 4 from 3 and just ends games. It's, it's, I mean, Jalen Brunson, Mikhail Bridges, ever since the, the 2:1 deficit to the Hawks has been incredible. Josh Hart has had his moments like, where he's just been everywhere. They're just, they're, they're, and Mike Brown's been great memes.

[Big Cat]

And OG Anunoby has been playing, oh, gee, yeah. Really, really good defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Every single guy.

[Big Cat]

Now, I, I'm gonna wait for all the advanced analytics to come out. Big Cat, you alluded to it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think that the Knicks should be winning this game on expected points. I, I, I think I've got them actually up right now with my own proprietary analytics. I've got them up 88 to 87 in expected points.

[PFT Commenter]

So what we're referring to, if people missed it, I don't know if anyone could have missed it, but Kenny Atkinson, the coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers, said in the series that analytically, they've won two of the games. If you look at the shot quality, if you look at the expected wins, they've won two of the games. Now, I don't want to be hyperbolic here, but I think that is the biggest loser quote that has ever been uttered in professional sports.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

I really do. I do not understand. Find me a bigger loser quote than that. We've won two of the games. And that's a quote that you throw out there in like mid December, 12 games into the season, where you're like, hey, we're going to just trust our process. Like, the threes are going to start falling. Not game, game four of the Eastern Conference finals when you're getting your absolute dick stomped in.

[Big Cat]

I think it's one thing to do the expected. It's, it's loser talk no matter what. But in basketball, basketball, it's worse. I was actually going to say, I was going to say, like, you know, we hear this sometimes in baseball when they talk about batting average on balls, in play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When they play 162 games.

[Big Cat]

Look over, over the course of a season. And there is some truth to that. Like if you barrel up some balls and you happen to hit them to a left fielder, that sucks. It's not always, like, your fault. But in basketball, like, everything on the court happens because of what you're doing over the course of that play. And even though most teams might make a shot from that spot on the floor has nothing to do with playoff intensity, basketball and the defensive adjustments that are being made against you and for, for the Coach to say that he's had two hall of Fame loser quotes after games. The first one where he's like, I like to hold my timeouts. I like to keep all my timeouts and, and hold on to them and look at them and, and have them tell me how special I am. There was that quote and then the quote of like, we're up 2 to 1 unexpected points. And also I, I, I, I don't know. I don't think it's possible for a coach to be more of a pathetic loser than that.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, expected points is literally in, in the basketball sense is literally just saying if our shots went in and theirs didn't, we would have won the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is the point of the game is to put the ball in the hoop. And he's like, well, our looks were so good that normally if we, if all of our guys don't go 1 for 15 from 3, we'd win the game. No shit, dude. If you made more shots, you'd win the game.

[Big Cat]

Hey, do you ever around with like expected birdies? Like, you know, I, no, I actually had three expected birdies over the weekend. Now they all turn into bogeys. But I played some of my best golf ever.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I. Can I pause real quick because we're in, we're in a flow state. But memes and Max's faces are making me very nervous. I don't know what's going on. I'm very nervous. They're, they're making faces like cameras aren't working, that things aren't going according to plan. And I'm, I can read Max's face. He's looking, you know when, when, when a garage door opens and your dog gives the side tilt like, I didn't know. How did that happen? That's what Max is doing to the computer right now. He's looking at it like a dog that has never seen a garage door.

[Max Delente]

It's not a big deal.

[Big Cat]

That's a big deal based on your, on your facial reaction. Right now I've got you, I've got that booth at 2.5 expected pips.

[PFT Commenter]

You listen, I, I said in the, in the intro. This is going to be a all time PMT show because we've had all of our takes marinating. We're in a flow state and all I can see is Max just.

[Max Delente]

I'm producing the show.

[PFT Commenter]

What's happening? Talk us through it. What is happening? What is occurring?

[Max Delente]

Something's going on with pfd. The light. It's just the lighting. Is off with.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait, wait. In what way we. Do I look? Do I look pale?

[PFT Commenter]

We move the desk forward a little. Is that the problem? I don't know what it is, because we are, like, for. For being the number one sports podcast. We can be derailed by moving our desk six inches.

[Max Delente]

Maybe that.

[Big Cat]

Like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, this whole thing down. It's the beauty of it.

[Big Cat]

How bad is it?

[Justin Reed]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want us to move it back a little? You want us to move back?

[Big Cat]

Is it funny? Is it so bad that it's fun?

[PFT Commenter]

Ready? Pft. We're gonna move it back on.

[Big Cat]

Hang on. Yeah, I wanna send a picture to the group chat.

[Max Delente]

Well, we just keep. We just keep messing with it.

[PFT Commenter]

How's that look? Does that look better? Okay, sure.

[Big Cat]

Please tell me it either looks fine or it looks so bad that it's funny.

[Max Delente]

Hank, you want to come back here?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

They're calling Hank and bringing. Oh, yeah, bringing the lefty. Yeah, Hank just patted his right.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got it.

[Travis Etienne]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank is. Hank is the old man at the, at the pickup game where he's, like, stretching in the size, like, I don't know if I could still do this. I don't know if I can still produce Hank.

[Big Cat]

How's it look?

[Memes]

Yeah, he just looks bright.

[PFT Commenter]

Bright, bright.

[Big Cat]

Is it pale? Is it red?

[Max Delente]

I, I said it wasn't that big of a deal.

[PFT Commenter]

He's our shining star.

[Memes]

Look at these.

[Big Cat]

Is it red? What color bright are we talking about here?

[Max Delente]

You're just blown out.

[Big Cat]

It's just.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm blown out in the show.

[Memes]

I'm blown out, but all the settings are the same.

[Big Cat]

The boys just blew me out.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, but it's the desk memes. We did move the desk six inches, so that is a problem.

[Max Delente]

I don't, I don't know if maybe, like, the way that the lighting was set up before you moved it up yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

No, we moved it on Thursday's. On Friday's show, we had to move it up because we had the grit week stuff behind us.

[Hank Lockwood]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

So that.

[Max Delente]

Again, bring it down a little.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, bring it.

[Max Delente]

Bring it way down.

[Big Cat]

Bring it way down.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys agree it wasn't that

[Hank Lockwood]

big of a deal, like, shaking your head?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

You're just like, I know.

[PFT Commenter]

And I need memes locked in. We're talking about the Knicks, and he's worried about PFT looking too bright.

[Max Delente]

Yeah.

[Memes]

If he looks pale as.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys agree that it is the biggest loser comment of all time?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I don't Know how you can be a bigger loser than Kenny Atkinson?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Like, I. I laughed when I found out about expected goals in soccer and how, like, some teams were really relying on that. I was like, that's the biggest. To do it in basketball, where you're right. It's like, if your shot doesn't go in.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're like, well, that shot normally goes in.

[PFT Commenter]

We missed open shots, so if that

[Big Cat]

went in, then we would have. We would have dominated this game. Like, I'm gonna start doing that. Expected beers that I drank last night. When I wake up in the morning, you can do expected anything and feel better.

[PFT Commenter]

It. It's just. I don't know how he survives this. I don't know. Like, the Cavs, it's just a brutal way for them. Game one. It was game one. If they win game one, they. I don't. I don't think they win the series, but they at least have a little confidence and maybe things go slightly different. Knicks are the better team by far.

[Max Delente]

Even.

[PFT Commenter]

Even in. Even in my analytics in expected wins. But, yeah, that was. You're dead. You're dead after that. And Kenny Atkinson is to blame for that entire game one or at least the ending. And then to throw on that quote on top, how do you bring that guy back?

[Big Cat]

You can't. I don't know. You've got a couple silver linings for Cavs fans, and we're going to have a long time to talk about. About the Knicks because they're going to have probably, like, a week and a half off before the NBA Finals, but some silver linings for Knicks fans, One or for Cavs fans, number one. I think your owner did a pretty good job keeping the celebrities off the wood.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

That was a good move on Dan Gilbert's part. He was just like, no, I'm under no obligation to make sure that Ben Stiller gets courtside seats.

[PFT Commenter]

People were calling this petty or loser. I think this is a. If I were an owner of a franchise, I'd be like, guess what? You can buy tickets to the second row. You can't put your feet on the wood.

[Big Cat]

I want to find out.

[PFT Commenter]

Do that.

[Big Cat]

I want to find out where the line of celebrity was. Like, it'd be very funny if, like, Chalamet and Kylie showed up and Ben Stiller was there. And Dan Gilbert's like, you can't. You can't touch the wood. And then Michael Rapaport walks. He's like, what about me, Dan? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Go right ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you can go there. Also, Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift were at game three, which I have an announcement. I officially think that they're dating because if you, if you bring your girlfriend to watch the Cleveland Cavaliers and James Harden get the doors blown off them and she's like, yeah, that sounds like fun. That's love. So I take back everything I've said previously about PNV and all that stuff I officially, I should have said at the time if I could, if I could redo the PNV clip, I should have put a, put a disclaimer pnv. Or they go to a Cavs game where the Cavs are dead men walking and James Harden is there and Taylor Swift's like, yeah, this will be fun. Yeah, like that, that's a good girlfriend move. Fiance. Sorry. Fiance.

[Big Cat]

Also digging in her bag to share gum. Yeah, that's a big time girlfriend.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think Travis Kelce also had a moment where he's like, I just hit my bet. Which I love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, I, I, I like how she's like, oh God, you need me to go into my bag for something? That's, that's classic girlfriend behavior. I do believe it's real too. The other silver lining I was going to say is that this, this might just cause the Cavs to, in the James Harden experiment and it probably makes it a more attractive place if LeBron wanted to play there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like I, I feel like going out this way, it's like you've got really. They had one guy that was playing hard tonight. They had one guy and that's Donovan Mitchell and he's a fun player to watch, but man, they are just such a bummer of a team. When James Harden is ball dominant and he's just, he just does not give a fuck.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they have to give Donovan Mitchell a big time extension too. So that's, that's a tough pill to swallow because he's, he's a classic. Like, he's a very good player. Is he? Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Big Cat]

Probably not.

[PFT Commenter]

I, but, but also, what's the alternative? He's a very good player.

[Hank Lockwood]

You still need like two, two big pieces.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a very good player though. That's the, he's a very good player. And then the Cavs. Yeah, I, I did notice Game three, Richard Jefferson was trying to do anything to like make it, you know, hey, this, this in Cleveland does have great sports fans and, and they're, they're die hard Fans and this, this sucks to have to watch these two games. But Richard Jefferson was said something along lines of like, yeah, I've. I've played playoff games in this arena. Like, you know, these, these fans will always believe. You just got to give them something's like, dude, you. You played with LeBron James. Little different. No, I think fans had a right to, to be like, hey, LeBron will always find us away, especially in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

[Big Cat]

No, it's the intangibles of the, of the role players. That's, that's what the main difference was then.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes, are you good to talk about the Knicks now? Because this is, this is incredible. What I mean, like, it has gone from the Knicks started the playoffs, the down two one, and everyone's like, what is going on? There was, there was a moment where you said yourself, like, trade the whole team for Giannis. And, and that was. I'm not saying, like, as a gotcha, that. That was just down two under. The Hawks felt bad.

[Memes]

I did say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I did say, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then. But then, you know, every single moment from then, you, you, you are living and dying with it. You love this team. And like, I think most people have been saying in their head, well, the winner's going to come from the west, whoever comes out of the east, whatever. But at this point, why not the Knicks? They are, they are playing perfect basketball. They're so fucking good, and they have the best home court in the entire playoffs. And their fans, I don't know if they'll be able. I don't know if they'll go to OKC or San Antonio, but they take over every arena. So it's like, why not, why not the Knicks?

[Memes]

Yeah, I felt that. I definitely felt that way last year. Like, if they would have beat the Pacers, it was, it was, it was okcs to win. But this year, like every. Everybody says we're gonna get blown out.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't watch basketball. Yeah, I don't think they're saying that anymore. I think that they were saying, if you had asked like, a week ago, week and a half ago, I think there were some people that are just saying, like, whoever wins the Western Conference, they're going to win the championship. And if you look at the odds, it's still looking that way, too. But I think that the Knicks have been so good ever since that that, I mean, you can take the entire playoffs, including the losses, I think they've set all the records for offensive basketball for just team efficiency in terms of one team over the course of a single playoff. I, I think that what they've done through the totality of this playoff has never been done before so far in the history of the NBA.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's also. It's also the foot on their. On the gas. That's what's been most impressive to me. Like, you know, up to, oh, going. Going to, you know, Philadelphia, up to, oh, going to Cleveland. That's a. That's a place that usually the home team wins one. Going to game four, where it's like, hey, we have a chance to sweep and get more rest. Those get tricky. Where it's like, hey, we, We. We can win this game or we can go back home and win it at home. The Knicks have just kept their foot on the gas and absolutely wasted teams. They're so good memes. They're so fucking.

[Memes]

Yeah, they're the best. And Mike Brown deserves a ton of credit.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, dude.

[Memes]

He's been coaching for, what, 31 years now. He's won four championships. So, like, all that experience, he was talking about what he learned from Pop. He said, you save your players for the postseason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, basically that's a little shot of tips. But also, I mean, like, the simple things, like the. He's just been running circles around Kenny Atkinson where he keeps doing the move where he puts in Mitchell Robinson so that the Cavs go into bonus. Then they take him out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just. It's crazy. He's.

[Big Cat]

He's a foul magnet.

[Memes]

And they coached on the same coaching staff in Golden State like, two years ago, too, which.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Which also makes it pretty funny memes. I was thinking about this because the Knicks are fun. They're. It's. They're very easy team to love, but obviously, like, a lot of the country has a large amount of fatigue with, like, New York sports media bias type stuff. I actually think that if it's the Thunder against the Knicks in the finals, you're going to look at the map of, like, where people are rooting for which team. I think. I think that the Knicks might be America's team. I think that it would be, like, across the board, except for maybe Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, like the middle. The middle of the country. I think. Besides that, most people, I think, find themselves rooting for the Knicks.

[PFT Commenter]

Not if it's the Spurs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It just depends on whether. Cause with, With. With the New York media thing, they always have a chance to ruin it. And this. This has nothing to do with Knicks fans. All it takes Is like Stephen A. Smith coming out in warm up in the layup line in warm ups, which ESPN will try to do. You know what I mean? Like something like that where Stephen A. Smith comes out of the tunnel and he's literally take. He's throwing alley. Oops. Jalen Brunson. And they're like, hey, we're just getting a little synergy going. And everyone like this.

[Memes]

Yeah. There was what. Was there one Pacers fan who. Who showed up in the crowd last year and. And got garbage thrown at him.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody turned on immediately. Remember the Stephen. A preview of the. Of the Pacers Knicks game, and he didn't say. I don't think he said the word Pacers. Yeah. That's all it takes.

[Big Cat]

Stephen A. Smith did a walkout like

[PFT Commenter]

going out the tunnel and that again, that has nothing. Knicks fans are passionate. They're die hard.

[Big Cat]

It's a fun team. Yeah. And yeah, you're right. It would take like, they're probably gonna have Eric Adams on inside the NBA. Yeah. For a pregame show, and then everyone's gonna be like, okay, this team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Or Mumdani.

[Big Cat]

Eric Adams would be actually hilarious with that group.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so memes, now you get to rest.

[Memes]

Now we get the rest. I just think there's. There's moments in your sports watching career where you just have to realize like, this is your year and you just have to enjoy it.

[PFT Commenter]

Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the out of the ride, wherever it takes you.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you have a winning pedigree.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

What advice would you give Memes going into the NBA Finals?

[Hank Lockwood]

You just got to keep your foot in the gas. I mean, they're playing the best basketball in the league. They're just get rested, get healthy. You're the better team player game. I think it's Nixon 5. Doesn't matter who they play.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. That was a soundboard of cliches. Yeah, you hit them all.

[Hank Lockwood]

I mean, when you're, when you're making postseason runs, like, they're. They're cliches for a reason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, they're. They're. Dude, the Landry shame. Have you. Landry Shaman has like reached God level in. In the Prince performances.

[Memes]

He's been a stud all year. And then like the. The Knicks had a bad stretch when he went down.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Memes]

Like, he, he really. Him and Mitch are the key to this.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, those type of guys who have to come off the bench and be, you know, flamethrowers and. And give you that offensive burst. He's been more than that. This, this series, it's been insane.

[Memes]

Yeah, it's just the difference between last year and this year. Like they didn't play the bench and he was on the team. Like it could have been different, but whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay, well, congrats, memes. As for the other series, we have a classic brewing that we haven't had a close game since game one, but it has. It's two. Two spurs and okc. We had so since we last talked. Friday night was a quintessential championship pedigree night for the Thunder. Where they were. The San Antonio was absolutely rocking. I think this, the start of the game was 15 to nothing. Thunder just took that punch. SGA was getting doubled. He was, he was. Had dishes everywhere, took that punch, won that game convincingly. Then game four, it was the complete opposite where Wemby was like, I'm the best player alive. I'm going to take this game. I. It won't show up if you're a box score watcher. Steph Castle, I think he only had like 13 points. He was an absolute menace. Just like the energy that he brought to the spurs team was changed. The game and the physicality that the spurs had in game four, I think shocked the Thunder a little bit. And now we have a crucial Game 5 on Tuesday night. I'm very excited.

[Big Cat]

I don't think Castle had a turnover.

[PFT Commenter]

He was so.

[Big Cat]

I was watching him and it was like, this is. He is. He's taking care of the basketball. He was in command of that office. And Wimby was just nuts. That was. It was like, okay, that when he does that, it's not fair.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not.

[Big Cat]

There's nothing that you can do at all to stop it. When he hit that three at the end of the first half.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, dude, game over. I don't wanna, I don't want to be LeBron here, but I don't know if you guys had the same experience.

[Big Cat]

I knew it was going as he

[PFT Commenter]

was stepping into it. I was like, this is going.

[Big Cat]

I said, it's going.

[PFT Commenter]

It just. He had the perfect rhythm to it and it was, it just felt like he had hit that higher power of basketball. He's averaging 30 and 13 in this

[Big Cat]

series and I think the, the Thunder just couldn't hit a 3 to save their lives in that game. So it was, it was over. And would Wimby playing like that, you're not going to beat him. And then the crowd getting into it. I. Hey, I think the crowd in San Antonio, that was the best crowd of the Playoffs so far.

[PFT Commenter]

So I want to talk about that, because I thought the NBC broadcast. We. We. We on broadcast. I thought the NBC broadcast was awesome because it was just. There was a moment, and I might have. I might have been a little high, so I might have also just gotten stuck in the moment. But it was like, somewhere in the second quarter where they did a very long. Not feature, but extended conversation about the Jackals. The fan section loved that. Then it was like. It was like, Jackals, Wemby. Incredible dunk. Something about nuns.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the nuns were there.

[PFT Commenter]

Chet's dog. And then right back to the big old fat titties behind Mitch Johnson. Yeah, it was like, dude, this is awesome. Like, this is a great broadcast.

[Big Cat]

There's the two sets of titties now behind Mitch Johnson, and they're. They're perfectly framed. Like, the artistic setup of that shot, like, cinematically, is a beautiful thing to look at. And the guys in the truck, the boys in the truck know they got some gold because they'll, like. At one point, they cut to the nuns and then back to the tips.

[Max Delente]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

And it's like, nuns, they got a little something for everybody.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so this. This dumb idea, but I actually think it's. It's not a dumb idea. We. We've talked at length that sports in 2026 have been difficult to follow because of the streaming.

[Big Cat]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And there's. You have to have a app for everything. Why don't all the streaming services just guarantee titties behind the bench? You would buy the stream. Like, you don't want to miss the titties in the wild. And listen, we're.

[Travis Etienne]

We're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're watching this on Netflix right now?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

What if we just put some titties up? Look at that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

You like that. Is that.

[Big Cat]

Is that the coach or is that Max?

[PFT Commenter]

That's Mitch Johnson with Max faces on it. But the titties are right behind him. So we just have the titties right over my shoulder.

[Big Cat]

I think that the titties like, you.

[PFT Commenter]

You tune in.

[Big Cat]

The titties are great, but counterpoint. I actually think that Hank's staring at titties in the wild.

[Travis Etienne]

Is.

[Big Cat]

That's the magic.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

But if you were guaranteed titties, then it's like, no longer the wild, and it's. It's part of the stadium.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I think you just say, hey, look, like there's gonna be a good chance there's titties if you, you know, tune in for.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah, like, you have to watch Every

[PFT Commenter]

shot we'll get some titties. And at some point in the broadcast, you're gonna need this subscription because there will be some titties.

[Big Cat]

I think you encourage the fans like, hey, no, no shame in the game. Like, it's hot outside. You. We know that building. Occasionally the AC has gone off in the playoffs, you're going to want to wear something comfortable for any. Any temperature.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then. Yeah, just listen. It was a great scene. I also think that the. The fans that were taunting SGA did a great job.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

This one lady had an Oscar trophy that she brought with her front row, presenting him with the Oscar award for flopping and for acting. And then there was a whole group of people, I think, behind the basket that would hold up signs like it was figure skating judges. When. When SGA would hit the deck, they'd be like, okay, that's a 7.0. That was. It was a good home court advantage. Yeah, Very good home.

[PFT Commenter]

What were you gonna say there, Max?

[Max Delente]

When did you get my face on there?

[PFT Commenter]

I texted memes at halftime in the Knicks game. I said, can you put a face on there? Got it.

[Max Delente]

I was gonna say I. That was a new. That was a new. That was a new face switch across your desk. That one hadn't crossed my desk. So I was wondering.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a cross. The rare cross racial face swap.

[Max Delente]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You like it, right?

[Big Cat]

He just looks very Italian.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm looking at the titties. Hey, you know how I know you're gay? You're looking at your face. I'm looking at the titties.

[Max Delente]

Well, you know, it's my face.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so more tast. All right, so I have a. I have a take that I wanted to throw out to you guys about this series, and it actually is kind of similar to what you said. Pft. About the Knicks and the Thunder. Because on Friday's show, I was talking about how I don't like SGA flopping. But I also think that it's gotten to a point where every single one of his flops is. Got a 10 billion views on social media. And if you only consume the NBA over social media, you would think that SJ, like 100 of the time flops. And he doesn't.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He does flop more than everyone else

[Big Cat]

and twice as much as the.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't like it. I don't like it. But you would. If you. If you just scrolled social media, you'd be like, that's all he does. That's. And. And my. My greater Point was. Was more that it's exhausting that we've gotten to a point where it's like instead of watching the basketball, we are spending or a lot of people are spending the post game watching in slow motion. Sga. And I think it was de' Aaron Fox get in his landing zone. Whether it was a foul or not, who the fuck cares? Okay, that was so. That was distilled into I love SGA and I want. I love. I have no problem with him flopping by people who hate sga. And it dawned on me the Thunder have such a white hot hate for them right now that what I said on Friday quickly became I'm just an SGA apologist, which, again, I don't like his flopping. I think, though, the white hot hate for the Thunder, I think the Thunder are awesome for the NBA. What do you guys think?

[Big Cat]

Because people hate them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I don't think

[PFT Commenter]

Very hated. They're not unhateable, though.

[Big Cat]

I agree. I think that people are a little bit sick of them. And that's why I'm saying if the Knicks and the Thunder play in the finals, I think most of America would be rooting for the Knicks. And there's fatigue. Anytime that you see a team that wins one championship, you don't want to see them back.

[Max Delente]

What the problem is, it's Oklahoma City.

[PFT Commenter]

I understand that

[Max Delente]

there can't be like the real, real hatred.

[PFT Commenter]

I get it. I get it. And it's.

[Max Delente]

Fans are from Oklahoma City.

[PFT Commenter]

I get it. I get it. I'm just saying there's a lot of hate for this team.

[Max Delente]

And there's a lot of hate for flopping.

[PFT Commenter]

I get it. And there's a lot of hate for. No, but there's a lot of hate for Lou Dort. There's a lot of hate for Crusoe. There's a lot of hate for how they play.

[Big Cat]

Nobody's hate. I don't think anybody hates Caruso. They. They do hate Lou Dort occasionally. And Lou Dort hasn't been good. Lou Dort's been bad. He's been very bad in this series.

[PFT Commenter]

Hold on a second. We love Alex Crusoe. He's a very good friend of the program. There's a lot of hate for Alex Caruso. I don't think so. Yes. Oh, other NBA fans definitely hate him. He play. I mean, the way he plays. He plays hard all the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think. I don't know. I haven't seen.

[PFT Commenter]

We're a little blinded on that.

[Big Cat]

I haven't seen nuclear Levels of hate for Caruso. I do think that the SGA stuff, it's just annoying as that's the thing. Like you were talking about how sometimes he flops and they don't call it and then who cares? But I. I think that's still annoying as to watch when you have a superstar that's embellishing, trying to draw calls, and then when he doesn't get it, it still sucks to look at on TV and it makes it worse to watch. That's all I was saying. And yeah, if you only consume it via clips, then you're like, yeah, okay, then you would think that all SGA does is hit the ground. But he does fall to the ground twice as much as the second leading guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

So he. He is on the ground a lot now. It's not every shot. It's like, what, 27% of the time.

[PFT Commenter]

And some of them flops, though, they aren't. They're just. He's just. He's just falling that way. Like he's not fully flopping. But I. So my greater point though is that in sports, the. The best thing is when there is a truly hateable team. The Chiefs, the Patriots, LeBron when he went to the Magic, the Katie, when he went to the warriors, when everyone truly hates one team. I understand that it's limitations because it is okc, but I think there's. I think, to your point, pft, if it was Knicks versus okc, I think America would be rooting for the Knicks, which is a crazy statement, but that is the hate that OKC, like, generates. And I think that that hate is awesome for the NBA because a lot of the discourse is OKC is bad for NBA because of the style of play and their floppers and everything. I think they're great for the NBA. You want a team that everyone can galvanize behind and be like, we hate them.

[Big Cat]

I still think that they're a fun team to watch. They play, I think, a very fun brand of basketball. It's just when they do the flopping, that's p. That pisses me off just as like a. Just somebody that likes to watch the game, you know? Like, you don't want to see guys that are trying to bend the rules and trying to like pulling over on the ref. That sucks to watch. But besides that, because again, it's not. You're right, it's not every time. And when they're dominant, they don't need to do that stuff. And they're still fun to watch when they don't and they're still very, very good when they, when they aren't trying to draw all those calls. Now, I think that there's definitely. There would be a large percentage of America that would root for the Knicks. It was Nick's Thunder. I think that it would be the other way around if it was spurs versus Knicks in the finals. And that's. That goes back to what I was saying.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why we need the Thunder.

[Big Cat]

I kind of want the Thunder to win because I'm not ready to start the clock on when I have to start hating the spurs again.

[PFT Commenter]

And the hate for the Thunder will go up even another level if they win again. As for the flopping, I. I've. I always just think, like, it's a NBA problem. It's not as much of a player like people want to put on the players. I get it. It sucks to watch, but it's the refs. The. If the refs don't. You know the same thing when James Harden was. Was doing it like the rest don't reward it. Or if there's some type of, like, punishment after the game where they can review these and be like, hey, this was a flop. You're getting fined. It would be out of the game.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's not sg. I'm not mad at SGA for like, a competitive advantage, trying to find one. I'm mad at the NBA for not being able to figure that out.

[Big Cat]

They got to do. You got to be able to do text after the game too. Like, if it's egregious, yes, tee a guy up if it's a flop. If it's like, if it's one of the, one of the crazier ones, that there's absolutely no discussion about whether or not there was contact or anything. If it's egregious, issue them a technical foul after the game. You can do it. You can do it. Upon review.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, I don't know where the series is going to go because the Thunder are running out of dudes too. Like aj Mitchell and Jada being out. They don't chat. Needs to be way better and SGA needs to be better. SGA needs to prove that he's the best player and Wembley's the best player. That's the problem. He's. He's. He's trying to prove he's the best player against the best player.

[Big Cat]

The spurs also had Pop coming out of retirement to give him some, some words of wisdom after game three. Went into the locker Room and custom out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's been all around. He's been around. Remember when Wemby elbowed? He was the first one to meet him off the plane.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a superpower. The spurs organization, and they have just. It's crazy that they're doing that. It. Because I always go back to. In the NBA, you can't. You can't climb the mountain. I mean, you can't get to the mountaintop before you've done a couple climbs up. And you've seen it every. Every single time, every era where a team, you know, will take their lumps and then they'll get over the top. Wemby might be just that good that he's that different, that they could go with a team that is all, like, under 25 years old and potentially win the whole thing. It's nuts.

[Big Cat]

We're starting to get, like, little trickles of the. The, like, urban legend of Wimby growing day by day.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, little trickles of. Of nuggets from the time that he spent at the monastery and the different assignments that he had. He was on, like, doing the kill bill, walking up and down a mountain, dribbling a basketball. I. I can't wait to hear more about it. He's fascinating to me as a player that's that big, that skilled, and that, like, much of a competitor, too, and that coordinated for being that size. I. I want all the Wimby content. I love watching him play. I just don't want to start hating him until I have to start to hit him.

[PFT Commenter]

I might never hate him because he's. He might not even be French with how much of a dog he has. Like, he. He hates his opponents, and he wants to embarrass his opponents, and it's awesome to watch.

[Big Cat]

He hates Chad. That's what I love, too, is, like, I know him, and Chad has so fun. Some actual hatred. And it's good.

[PFT Commenter]

It's also fun just watching a series where I. I truly don't like Caruso aside because we root for Crusoe, I don't really have a dog in this fight. Like, I'm just watching this series, and it's fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

I like the Spurs. I. I really.

[PFT Commenter]

Who doesn't like Wemby?

[Big Cat]

They're. And I. I like their guards. I like a lot of things about the spurs, but I just.

[PFT Commenter]

Steph Castle, dude. Dog.

[Big Cat]

I want Absolute dog. I want to see Nick's thunder in the finals. And I want memes. Memes. I want you to take it home. There'll be a lot of orange and blue.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Be.

[Memes]

It would be a horrible Jersey matchup.

[Big Cat]

It'd be the orangest and bluest NBA finals of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be. Yeah. That'd be a really tough matchup for the eyes.

[Big Cat]

And also, I don't think that Ben Stiller can hang with Thunder Princess and Thunder.

[PFT Commenter]

No. That's a fact.

[Big Cat]

I think they get him out the paint real quick.

[PFT Commenter]

Ben Stiller probably can't hang with the Jackals or the Titties.

[Big Cat]

Probably not.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot going on for that. The Knicks are just. They're gonna win. They're winning this game by 42. This is. Chalamet's having the best time of his life. Shallmate.

[Big Cat]

Does he.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he have, like, one. One life right now?

[Big Cat]

It's pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Who?

[Max Delente]

Without question.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I was just thinking about it. Yeah. No, I, I, I did. He does. I guess maybe being a professional athlete would be cooler.

[Max Delente]

Nah.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Because he gets to go to the games.

[PFT Commenter]

Spike Lee, he's in the third row.

[Hank Lockwood]

He's so, so big as an actor, too. He probably just gets to tell. He's like, I'll do your movie. We're not doing it.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

During playoff season.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think Spike Lee has a little bit of resentment towards Chalamet? No.

[Big Cat]

Because that used to be a tiny bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, he. It was his thing, and now Xiaomi's got a little bit of it, and the Knicks are going to the finals.

[Big Cat]

Like, he didn't put in. He didn't pay his dues.

[PFT Commenter]

Just a tiny bit. I'm not saying. I'm not trying to cause a wedge. Just a little bit.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah, probably.

[PFT Commenter]

There's got to be a little bit. It's like, I'm. I'm Mr. Nick. And now Chalamet is just smooching with a Jenner on the on on the wood, and everyone wants to be friends with him. He's the coolest guy ever. Spike Lee doesn't probably know the Mac Football Conference like Chalamet. Us.

[Big Cat]

Definitely not.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Justin Reed]

Two.

[PFT Commenter]

Two. Well, no, I'm saying it's 1:1 in the series, and the Golden Knights just own the Avalanche. I think that's seven in a row in the playoffs for them. And v. Oh, sorry, VGK. I don't know if you guys caught that McDonough on Saturday night or Sunday night. Just kept on calling him vgk. And I was. I was. I was getting a little upset, but they down three zero in an instant. McCarr back. Doesn't matter. Knights. Knights are so good. They're absolutely rolling.

[Big Cat]

And Blutman cranking the alarm was so good.

[PFT Commenter]

Too happy ever.

[Big Cat]

So I'm rooting for vgk.

[PFT Commenter]

Vgk.

[Big Cat]

Vgk. Stand right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go, vgk. We have a hockey guest for Friday, so we'll talk. Oh, the goal was. Was taken off, so it was offsides. Canadiens fans very upset. 2. 2. We'll update that as it goes. All right.

[Big Cat]

That was a great overtime game on. Was that Saturday night?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That was an awesome game. Yeah, it was in Carolina, Montreal.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you guys want to talk about? We have so many things.

[Big Cat]

I mean, there's a lot to dip into here,

[PFT Commenter]

so let's start with pft. Big Cat, what do you have to say for the U.S. men's National Team? Sending an email to all the cuts today.

[Big Cat]

How. How would you recommend that they do it? I don't know. I don't feel strongly one way or the other. I saw some people got upset about

[PFT Commenter]

it maybe calling, like, yeah, maybe give him a call.

[Big Cat]

A phone call would be good.

[PFT Commenter]

An email to get cut from the U.S. men's National Team is a kind of ridiculous way to. To find out.

[Big Cat]

I would also imagine that maybe some people didn't get the email. Like, it went to spam.

[PFT Commenter]

This is because. Yeah, you'd also have to, like, I don't. I don't know about you guys, but I don't check email constantly. So you probably get a text being like, hey, did you get the email? Then you go check the email. Oh, I didn't make the team. Just give them a call.

[Big Cat]

So are we sure that there were no phone calls made? I. I did see that the email was sent out. Some guys had a problem with it.

[PFT Commenter]

The big.

[Big Cat]

The big news is Diego Luna was not put on the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Huge news.

[Big Cat]

Our guy Joe Scally is on the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Thank God Joe Scally made the team. There was a lot of, you know, Joe Scally.

[Justin Reed]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's pretty poor form to send the email. Just. Just give him a call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, it'd probably be pretty easy to do.

[PFT Commenter]

So do you disavow the email? It sounds like you don't.

[Big Cat]

I don't. I'll be. I don't really care about the email.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think that it's. Maybe it's indicative of us not running a very professional organization.

[PFT Commenter]

That's kind of the bigger. The underlying point here that could.

[Big Cat]

That. I see that argument. But as of right now, like, listen, we Got one goal in the United

[PFT Commenter]

States, and that's to get it out of the first.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, it's the goal. It's just. There's one.

[PFT Commenter]

One goal. Well, no, there's two goals, but one. Defend one of them.

[Big Cat]

One that we're going towards. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to defend.

[Big Cat]

We're trying to achieve one. One of the goals.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't forget about the one we're defending.

[Big Cat]

We know the. The very, very bottom line for what we could consider to be success, I would say, is if we win one elimination game, that would be okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Still not that great considering that this was supposed to be the best generation that we've ever had for us soccer players. So, like a year ago, I would have said reaching the quarterfinals should be the expectation. We haven't played that well. You know, I'm just gonna stick with it. Reaching the quarterfinals, that's okay. That's what success is for this team.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Staying with soccer real quick because it's so important. We're such a big soccer show. Tottenham not relegated.

[Big Cat]

Not relegated. They.

[PFT Commenter]

Not really.

[Big Cat]

They got an impactful result. They won one nil, I think. And then West Ham, my beloved Hammers, they. They did win three to nothing. But I think the gold, first of all, they had to win. Tottenham had to lose because on. If they had tied the gold differential, I think would have favored Tottenham. So I made a lot of European soccer fans upset with my take on West Ham, pretty much saying that English soccer fans don't understand sports. They don't get momentum. And winning your last game of the season, three nil, you're going to have all the momentum going into next year in the epl. Yeah, like, you should contend to be at the top of the table. And these idiot soccer fans don't understand that you can build off of a win at the end of a bad season. It's like rollover and then come out the next year and then, yeah, you're the hot team. And everybody believes you get full buy in in the conditioning programs in the off season. So I, I expect, I expect West Ham, my Hammers to finish in the top 10 of the table next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Kenny Atkinson starting the next year for the Cavs with an extra timeout. Yeah, it's the exact same thing.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be great.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's a stat that really I don't care about, but I saw it and I was like, oh, that's fucking interesting. This came from Richard Osman. He said that with West Ham relegated, this will be the first season in the entire 138 year history of the English top flight without a team beginning with the letter W. That's pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

That is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, I don't really know what teams other than West Ham, Wrexham Rex, but are they even top flight?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Then top flight. The. The Rangers. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Wolves. The Wolves also got relegated.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wolves. Wow. Winchester. Winchester. United.

[Big Cat]

Weymouth.

[PFT Commenter]

Weymouth. Yeah. The Whackers.

[Hank Lockwood]

Is that a team?

[Big Cat]

Is that Boston City?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. Max. No, no. Search what W teams in the epl.

[Max Delente]

Well, I'm trying to find the. The efl. I'm trying to find who's going up from the. From the.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Find us. That.

[Max Delente]

It's so hard.

[Big Cat]

Are you trying to think of the word promoted?

[PFT Commenter]

This is so hard. This is so hard.

[Max Delente]

I just don't know. I just don't know what that league is called.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, there we go. West Brom.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. West Brom.

[PFT Commenter]

Wiggin.

[Big Cat]

Good food in Wigan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Standings. Okay. Again, we're probably spending so too much time on this, but I. Walsall. Walsall.

[Max Delente]

But they're not. They're not going up.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not going.

[Max Delente]

They're not getting promoted.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Delente]

The. The Dons.

[Big Cat]

M.K.

[PFT Commenter]

don.

[Hank Lockwood]

Wes Bromwich.

[PFT Commenter]

West Brom.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, I'm kind of in on the MK. Don.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds like a designer drug.

[Hank Lockwood]

Wolverhampton Wanderers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay, so that was. That was our EPL that was talking soccer.

[Big Cat]

I just need the World cup to get here. Yeah, we need that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we do. When is the start date? June.

[Big Cat]

Something mid June. At some point, Gio Reynold also made the team. That was the other piece of big news.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, thank God.

[Big Cat]

Well, he's. He was a guy that had real problems with. With Burhalter.

[PFT Commenter]

Last time I did like that, the athletic wrote the story about the emails and for some reason it was like, wait, I'm gonna. I'm gonna find the exact. The exact phrasing because maybe this is just an accident or they're like, hey, we want people to click on these stories about soccer in America. But it was. It was like all the guy. It was like two guys that made it and then Messi was just in the picture. So Messi didn't make the US Team?

[Travis Etienne]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

What I found out.

[Big Cat]

No, even though, like, I. I was hoping that our coach, being a fellow Argentinian, was going to persuade Messi to switch. His would have been nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, would have been real nice. Okay, other stories. We got incredible Indy 500. That's about it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, incredible. There was like, there were a few cautions at the end. And then the last 15 minutes or the last 15 laps were just pretty much like balls to the wall.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

With a restart. I like that. I like having a restart right before the very end of it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was badass. And the. The move. I don't. I don't understand the move, but it seemed like a couple sick moves by line.

[Big Cat]

Who was it who won not paddle awards? Not Connor Nyquist.

[PFT Commenter]

Who? Max is stuck on this table. He's stuck on.

[Max Delente]

It's so confusing, the soccer.

[PFT Commenter]

Who won the Indy 500? Max. Give it to us. Ronquist. I'm gonna say Ronquist.

[Hank Lockwood]

Wreck some Felix Rosenquist.

[PFT Commenter]

I was close.

[Hank Lockwood]

Qv Q R O S E N Q V I S T. I think

[PFT Commenter]

the guy who finished second finished second last year, too.

[Big Cat]

That's tough.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was American Chicago, kid.

[Big Cat]

It was like a super close finish, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Brutal.

[Big Cat]

The move at the end was. Was sick. The guy was just like, I'm gonna hit the gas.

[PFT Commenter]

I think.

[Big Cat]

I think that's what they call it. Just like nas, you hit the gas.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hit the nos.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was. It was tough because I thought that Connor Daly got boned. He was in third place with what, like, 50 laps remaining? And then I heard one of the announcers say, like, you'd rather be in third place than you would in second or first because you can save gas. I was like, okay, so Connor Daley's gonna win. Cool. And then somebody with his mirror. We're still looking into. That might be an inside job. Somebody towards mirror off.

[PFT Commenter]

I also read one Twitter thread that said essentially that because the air was cooler, unseasonably cool for the Indy 500, drafting was a lot easier, and that's why he was able to do that move.

[Big Cat]

Ah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that was cool to learn that I had.

[Big Cat]

Connor Daly had the highest expected miles per hour. So he technically gets a banner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We should give him some expected milk. Hank, the Byron Nelson. Do you have anything to say about it, cupcake?

[Hank Lockwood]

Shout out to Wyndham Clark.

[PFT Commenter]

Should we shout him out? Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

1. Everyone was playing the same course, right? Joke of a course.

[Max Delente]

But Wyndham Clark made some. I mean, are you deep putts in that back nine?

[Big Cat]

How are we feeling Sexual. The way you just described.

[Max Delente]

There were some deep putts.

[PFT Commenter]

How are you feeling about, you know, the. On tick tock. Like, when girls are like, oh, I got the ick. And it's just like, one thing a guy does. I got the ick from Wyndham Clark.

[Travis Etienne]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see the quote about how he's gonna celebrate.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

A little grape. Open up some grape, dude. Well, who says that we're gonna open up some. Great.

[Big Cat]

He goes, we're gonna open up.

[PFT Commenter]

A stepbrother's quote.

[Hank Lockwood]

He goes, it sounds like the dad from stepbrothers.

[Big Cat]

Open up some grape and see where the night takes us. A direct quote.

[PFT Commenter]

I read it and I went, ew, gross. Come on, Hank.

[Memes]

Grape.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You gonna open up some grape? I might Max. Open up some hops. Yeah, we're gonna open up some tea. That'd be sick to say a little bit of grape. Open up some grape. I'm gonna open. I'm gonna open some grape and see where the night takes us.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna open up.

[Justin Reed]

What?

[Big Cat]

Open up some bag.

[PFT Commenter]

See where we go. Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

Open sack.

[PFT Commenter]

Open some grape.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna open some cocoa leaf tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Open some grape. Okay, Other stories. I don't want to burn everyone's who's back, but do you guys have. I have a couple others. If we want to talk about the Jason Williams. Mia Williams saga at the college softball World series super regional was incredible. Jason Williams, our co worker, White Chocolate, his daughter played for Florida, transferred to Texas Tech. Texas Tech and Florida, playing in the super regional, they hit Mia Williams five times in the series. She hit two massive bombs. And then everyone lost their mind because Florida didn't. They did the Detroit Pistons, they didn't shake hands. And people were saying, yeah, this. This tweet. Zach Moore. I'm sorry, dude. You're probably a student journalist. You're probably trying your best. But calling Jason Williams doing the Gator chomp an ugly scene, it's quite something, man.

[Big Cat]

That's the thing. If you have a signature celebration for your school, it goes with that responsibility that when you get your ass kicked, other schools are going to do your celebration to you in a mocking way.

[PFT Commenter]

And the best.

[Big Cat]

The horns down. Like the. The lamest thing that I think has been done in college sports is a long time is how the University of Texas tried to make that like a. Like an obscene gesture.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Like it's. It should be protected symbol and you should under no circumstances demean the. The pinky index finger horn sign of a cow. Yeah. By pushing it down. If you have a chomp. If you lose, people are going to chomp you.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's very chomped because Jason Williams is a Florida gator.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Which makes it even better. But yeah, his. His daughter Mia is a stud. Like to get hit five times in. In three games and then hit those Bombs. Pretty damn cool.

[Hank Lockwood]

His video, he posted like a long video explaining his side of the situation and it was so funny because he's obviously an all time talker and he basically was just like, things got really heated. I said some things I regret. They say some things we regret. He like didn't really say sorry. He was basically like, yeah, that happens, you know, like that's how sports go. I was talking, they were talking. Maybe got a little out of hand. He like kind of said sorry when he's like, but not really. Let's go Tech.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The best moment was I guess an old lady threw something at his younger daughter and he didn't say. He was like, I got no ill will towards that old lady. She's going to die soon. Yeah. It's just like God's going to take care of her, so whatever. But yeah, I, I like that he's standing on it where he's not apologizing. He's like, yeah, it's a heated rivalry and we're talking each other and my daughter's a stud and she transferred. Love it. College sports. College softball. Our LSU Tigers did not advance.

[Big Cat]

I saw that. I feel like maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

New vlog out, by the way.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We might, just might have ruined.

[Max Delente]

There will be.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll be out today. Yeah. New vlog will be out today of us playing with. On the LSU softball field with some of the coaching staff, which was very, very fun. Okay. Any other thing, Any other stories before we do who's back? Does anyone have anything else monopowery?

[Hank Lockwood]

Who's backs?

[PFT Commenter]

The Cubs stink. I should just say that they're. I, I don't. I'm. They have two 10 game winning streaks and then they're working on a 10 game losing streak all before June.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of crazy though.

[Justin Reed]

That's fun.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's just a. Yeah. A wild team to follow the season for. I, I'm really excited about the Nationals. The Nationals have the best offense in baseball. It's insane what they've done like with a young group like this. Everybody thought that they would be absolute dog this year. The Nationals, if they had, if they had slightly below average pitching, they would be the best team in baseball. But they've got atrocious pitching.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So they're just like one game over.500 now, but right out of the wild card. I hope, I hope that we don't trade C.J. abrams. I hope that he sticks around. I have a bad feeling that we're probably going to try to trade them because we don't want to extend them because we're trying to sell the team. And instead of looking at a player like that that you have under contract as being an asset, especially if you sign the contract before the new cba, I think they're going to look at that as we don't want to sign a guy to a contract because that'll make it harder for us to sell the team, which I think is misguided. I have a feeling that we're probably going to try to trade him this year and then kind of restart everything from scratch. But this is a very fun Nats team. If you haven't watched these Nats play, they are dynamic.

[PFT Commenter]

Booth boys, do you have any baseball takes?

[Max Delente]

Yeah. Christopher Sanchez, the most underrated athlete in professional sports.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go. Okay, that's a good take.

[Max Delente]

I think he's up to 37 straight scoreless innings now. He's the favorite to win the NL Cy Young over. Over Paul Skeens. The rest of the world will never would never know it with the amount of time people talk about Paul Skeens compared to Christopher Sanchez. He's an excellent pitcher. He's an absolute stud. 16 era right now. Christopher Sanchez, most underrated athlete in sports.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I have. I have a question for you guys. Curse question. Because people are saying that the Cubs are now cursed because of PCA saying suck my dick to the White Sox fan.

[Big Cat]

The curse. Curse.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't curse. It can't be a curse. If it happened after they started their losing streak. No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They had already lost a traditional curse or a traditional good look omen like the. Like grimace for the. For the Mets.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

It has to coincide with the. The tide turning.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. So PCA said this on I believe it was May 17th. They had already lost May 16th. That was when they're losing streak started. Now maybe like so. So you agree that it's not the pca.

[Big Cat]

We don't know. Did he tell anybody? Suck his dick on the 16th?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. But would it be more appropriate and just something I'm monitoring. The last time the Cubs won a game was the day that the original Billy goat curse guy died. That feels like. That's more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

The Cubs may never win again. That's more in line. Sam Sianis, he passed away on 5-15-91. Incredible life. He was a billy goat curse guy. He. He. That was the last time the Cubs won a game. That feels like the more appropriate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, listen, curses are real in baseball for sure. I don't think that curses really apply to football. I don't think they apply that much to. To basketball. But curses. I. I'd say that a vast majority of major league baseball games are won and lost based on superstitions and curses.

[PFT Commenter]

Who. Who is the rapper that cursed James Harden? That one's real. Yeah, that's. That is.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Real.

[Big Cat]

I think it is. I also feel like I have not looked into LB's whereabouts. He might be one of those guys that we look back on and we're like, that. That was very problematic that Little B was famous. But again, I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to run a foul of the lobby curse.

[Hank Lockwood]

Sounds like you were destined for it.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank Lockwood]

You're coming at him.

[Big Cat]

I know. I've already overcome the lobby curse.

[PFT Commenter]

True.

[Big Cat]

He tried to curse the. The Caps against the Penguins.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

And then afterwards he said, curse lifted. Lil B, Congrats.

[PFT Commenter]

There we go. Hank, I do have one last thing before we do. Who's back? Would you like to say anything about Friday? TMZ shot at 80.

[Hank Lockwood]

Multiple blogs, triple the last hole is playing really good golf.

[PFT Commenter]

TMZ wrote multiple stories about Hanks air out of his butt during the Kellen Moore interview to the point that I had our lawyer shout out Paul write a cease and desist to TMZ to stop.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

They called it a juicy fart at one point. So we sent a cease and desist saying. Stop saying that. It was clearly just the physics of his leg crossing and air coming out of his butt.

[Big Cat]

Wait. First of all, it was a shared facility with pelicans. You have to start there.

[PFT Commenter]

You're right. You're right.

[Big Cat]

We can read the headline.

[Hank Lockwood]

I got the hat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's how I got the hat.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Right. That's important detail.

[Big Cat]

We could just read the headline.

[Hank Lockwood]

The hat was important. The hat. That people needed to know I was wearing the hat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure. Part of my take interview derailed by Hank Lockwood fart. Would you say it derailed the interview Momentarily? Maybe a little bit. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely.

[Big Cat]

Derailed the interview. And we had. But it wasn't a fart.

[PFT Commenter]

It was not a fart.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's part of my take interview derailed by air coming out of Henry Lockwood's.

[Big Cat]

But normally.

[PFT Commenter]

Normally via physics.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

A lot of people were saying that's. You just described a queef. I did have. I was at. I was out like sitting on a patio on Friday outside a bar and I was basically like on the Corner of a street. Like, the street sidewalk is right there. And a woman just walked up on the sidewalk, very like. And like got so close. She just said it out loud. She's like, oh, are you the guy from tmz? And I was like, yeah. And then she walked away.

[Big Cat]

No, the guy from tmz, the fart guy. I guess people calling you the fart guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Jeffrey Epps. Seen the financing.

[Hank Lockwood]

Everybody farts, everybody shits, everybody farts. I don't, it's, it should not be a news story. I appreciate you ceasing, assisting. If they do continue, I'll sue them. Jerry is just obviously farming for clout. Has nothing else going on.

[PFT Commenter]

Our good friend Jerry, ok, he did

[Hank Lockwood]

a seven minute interview, which I didn't watch one second of because I just saw the video TMZ posted out. Like, hey, we've talking to like legal representative Jerry Oconnell. And it was a seven minute interview. So you didn't watch it talking about the fart? No, I did not.

[Big Cat]

I think he was being very, he was being very understanding the situation.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, of course.

[Hank Lockwood]

I don't, I, I, that's all he does.

[Big Cat]

But Jerry is like, I skimmed it.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I won't, I didn't watch all seven minutes.

[Big Cat]

I, I'll be honest, I don't think anybody did. I think if you were to look at the analytics of that video, I think most people like maybe watch the first 15 seconds and then, yeah, they saw the time at the bottom. It's like, wait, there's six more minutes of this. And then they clicked to the end and they said, oh, he's still in the car. Okay, cool. Now I can close it out. I think Jerry, Jerry is just like the neighbor that shows up when somebody in the neighborhood gets like, arrested for being a serial killer. It's like, yeah, you know, like I, I knew the guy. I went over to his house a few times. Like, he seeks out the cameras.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the part of, the, part of the video I watched, he did actually say almost exactly that. He's like, I played golf with him. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you, if you didn't know any better, you would think that Hank just got arrested for something terrible. And Jerry's like, listen, he's a good guy. I know, I know this guy. I've been to his house.

[PFT Commenter]

Juicy fart was too much.

[Hank Lockwood]

Way too much. Was not juicy at all.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Hank Lockwood]

Zero odor.

[PFT Commenter]

It was actually, yeah, it was actually dry. Extremely.

[Hank Lockwood]

It was, it was, it was also

[PFT Commenter]

not credit to you being in New Orleans. Like you would most likely Have a juicy fart. But you had a dry fart.

[Hank Lockwood]

It wasn't even a fart. That's why, like, juicy farts are farts. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This was just your dry air. You were basically. You're, like, in the desert. That was. That was a. Air. That was an exit of air that would be akin to Scottsdale, Arizona.

[Hank Lockwood]

It was like, you know when you, like, dap someone up and sometimes it makes, like, the popping sound, like, you just randomly get the. The right dap. It was kind of like that. Like, I just moved my leg, and I just hit the right pocket of. Of air with the chair. And.

[Big Cat]

And what are you saying? That you're like, your two butt cheeks dapped each other up?

[Hank Lockwood]

It was. It wasn't even that. It was just like. It was my butt. It doesn't matter. This is. This is. Yeah, we've gone too long. There's so much to talk about.

[Big Cat]

Such a great.

[PFT Commenter]

We went through a lot of stuff.

[Hank Lockwood]

You want my. Who's back?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. I mean, but that. This. TMZ writing multiple times about it on Friday. Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

They got nothing better going on. Like, they. They clearly are desperate for clicks any way they can. They're. They're leeching and. And forcing, like, forcing narratives that aren't true just to get clicks.

[Big Cat]

It's disgusting, right? Instead of forcing them out, they should just kind of just move their legs and then let them come out naturally.

[PFT Commenter]

TMZ should just reposition them themselves and then just see what. What comes. Oh, another. Another Henry Lockwood blog came out. They like that. Don't. Don't press the button. Don't press the far button. I know you didn't push the button. It just came.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. My favorite was the sub headline, Hank blames physics. That.

[Hank Lockwood]

That did make me laugh. Like, I. I was kind of. I was just like, you got to be kidding me. Open it up. And I got a chuckle.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Hank Lockwood]

And then using the picture, that's where.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Hank Lockwood]

That also is where I draw a line. 45.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

That is so far over the line. And, like, I actually. That. That.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

That was insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to cease and desist that one?

[Hank Lockwood]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, we'll do that.

[Hank Lockwood]

We should become, like, the. The. Like the. I might become one of the people that sues media. Like, people we get sued for using pictures illegally. Like, I never gave rights to that picture.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. They did update the blog. That was. What was the. What was the update? It was just like, they said something like, we. We've been. Cease and desisted. And it's not an actual fart.

[Hank Lockwood]

So I had to send my grandfather the article. We were talking about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Why'd you have to send him?

[Hank Lockwood]

He was like. He was interested. He's like, oh, there was an article. I was like, yeah, so could you send that my way? I was like, of course. Here you go. That was embarrassing. But it's.

[Travis Etienne]

We.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Hank Lockwood]

It's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

Time to move on.

[Big Cat]

Update 245, Barstool is taking umbrage with TMZ's use of the phrase juicy far. And in a cease and desist letter, claims we've mischaracterized what was simply Hank's butt releasing an odorless pocket of air due to physics of crossing his legs. Translation, it was a S and D. Silent, not deadly. Duly noted.

[PFT Commenter]

But it wasn't silent. No, we got.

[Big Cat]

Not silent. Not that it was nsnd.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Super loud.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Super disruptive. No smell.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely no smell.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely. Was there a smell?

[Big Cat]

There could have been a smell, but too far away. There was not.

[PFT Commenter]

There could have been a smell because it was a fart.

[Big Cat]

We'll never know.

[PFT Commenter]

But it. At no point was there a smell.

[Big Cat]

It was not a fart.

[Hank Lockwood]

It's been legally classified as not a fart.

[Big Cat]

Legally not a fart.

[Hank Lockwood]

It's in legal. Legal documents.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think it's disgusting that they use that picture of you from the workout. Like to try to monetize your face when you sent that to a group chat. I think is the lowest of the low. And anybody that tries to do that should be ashamed of themselves. Buy a Hank dog toy for sale in the Barstool store, by the way. Oh, we should. We should definitely do the thing where we make it where you squeeze it and it farts or you pull the string.

[PFT Commenter]

Farts, but tickle me Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you take them and. And just physics.

[PFT Commenter]

Anytime you're in the middle of a bad interview, just squeeze your Hank toy.

[Big Cat]

Does your kid want to learn physics? Well, get the new Hank dog toy. And when you move its legs, it doesn't fart, but it makes a sound.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that was enough, right? Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You sure anymore?

[Hank Lockwood]

Sure. Got a show.

[PFT Commenter]

You are a co host. Shout out, Gaz.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did he have your back, at least?

[Hank Lockwood]

I don't. I didn't really go. I kind of stayed on. I haven't been online.

[PFT Commenter]

Shot in 88. Yeah, but, well, Stu Finder, he got

[Big Cat]

upset with me for glazing you.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

Because I said. I said Hank is the funniest Guy at oh. On this podcast. And Gaz was like, what? What's up with all the glazing going on? It seems like he might be turning on you. Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You are the funniest guy.

[Hank Lockwood]

Now it's you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

No, now you see fart so funny.

[Big Cat]

It's your butt.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think you're being so fine. All right, let's do who's back of the week. It's brought to you by Twisted T. Summer is right around the corner, and Twisted T is coming in clutch. To turn our day drinking up a notch, their new summer party pack has a brand new twisted tea lemonade made with real lemons and 5% alcohol. It's got that refreshing taste with a little kick, no carbonation, and goes down smooth. Whether it's hitting the course for a round, pregaming a ball game, or inviting the guys over for some backyard grilling, the new Twisted tea summer party pack is perfect to keep the good times rolling. We had some twisted teas with Blake Bortles. Go watch that vlog. We released it on Saturday. We did some construction work, and nothing better than hot construction work. Getting out of the sun, cracking open a twisted tea. So grab a refreshing twisted tea today, and let's activate the summer with twisted tea.

[Hank Lockwood]

Okay, Hank, who's back of the week is Joey Chestnut.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. He.

[Hank Lockwood]

He's good to go. For July 4th. He will be competing in the Nathan's hot dog eating competition.

[Big Cat]

America's back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Hank Lockwood]

Huge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what was said to Joey. I'm gonna say that Joey probably. He was. He was right to slap him. I'm gonna say that allegedly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We stand with Joey.

[Big Cat]

No idea what was said, actually. But I'm going. I'm gonna go out on that limb.

[Hank Lockwood]

I mean, that's a sign, like, you're a high level sports athlete when it's like, you know, if you're good. If you're good enough at what you do, you can get arrested. And if you're that much better than everyone else, like, you're still probably gonna be able to compete.

[Big Cat]

That's true. Yeah. Some guy was probably like, you. You probably can't even eat that many hot dogs, Joey. And he just slapped.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, what does five fingers say to the face? Bang.

[Hank Lockwood]

I haven't. I pftm. Probably has the other one I was gonna do. What you got enhanced games?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be one of mine.

[PFT Commenter]

They sucked. Sucks.

[Big Cat]

Sucked big time.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad.

[Hank Lockwood]

I don't know if it was just a bad, like, the weekend to do them, it seemed.

[Big Cat]

It was. It was so underwhelming. They had all these freaks just roided up to the gills and they were trying to present it. Remember, Hank, when we were talking to that guy and he was like, this is actually like, biologically very important to study these people medically to see, you know, the future of human physiology. These are guys that are out there experimenting on themselves like heroes. And they just. No records got broken for the most part. There was one swimmer that broke a record, but that's because she was using, like, one of the suits that's banned.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In competition.

[PFT Commenter]

Torpedo used. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then there was the 100 yard dash. And then I think the person that won that, it would have been the world record in, like 1965.

[PFT Commenter]

So these guys just suck.

[Big Cat]

They just suck. They just sucked. And then the swimmer was the funniest. The guy named Magnuson. The best part to come out of these enhanced games is the before and after of the swimmer Magnuson, like pre steroids and then post steroids. And the absolute just hulking freak that he turned himself into.

[PFT Commenter]

But that wasn't even this guy. And that wasn't even. That was what he became. And then he then lost more weight

[Big Cat]

because he got too big. He got not buoyant enough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, so he started to sink when he was swimming.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, that guy who's trying to live forever. What's his name?

[Big Cat]

Oh, Brian. Brian Johnson.

[PFT Commenter]

Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Okay, we gotta stop giving this guy. I'm out.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, cool, man. You're trying to live forever. You know what's not worth living forever? Every time you go in the sun? Having to hold an umbrella. Did you see his umbrella?

[Big Cat]

I did. I. I think this guy is playing

[PFT Commenter]

I'd rather die than be like, hey, I could never look. I can. The sun again.

[Hank Lockwood]

Did he, like, drink his son's blood? Making that up.

[Big Cat]

He monitored his son's nighttime erections.

[PFT Commenter]

And he also keeps tweeting about his girlfriend's vagina.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, her. Well, her vaginal biome.

[PFT Commenter]

She's. She's got a. Like a. A.001% vagina.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's the top of the.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's the creme de la creme of vaginas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You wouldn't get it. No.

[Big Cat]

Hot. It's the best.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's the best vagina of all time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's. These enhanced games are very, very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

It's actually really funny to, like, simp much. Dude, he's just. He's just walking around Being like, my girlfriend's got the best vagina. Well, okay, dude, I think, sure.

[Big Cat]

I think everything about this guy is just engineered for us to talk about him. When I saw him with the umbrella this weekend, I was like, okay, he's. This is just like the latest attention thing that I, I don't think he's actually going to try to live forever. I think this is all part of his plan to just get famous. I think he just likes the fame. He.

[PFT Commenter]

He looks. Yeah, he's just. He's a freak. He's. He's the. He was. The story of the Enhanced Games.

[Big Cat]

There we are. There's the before and after right there of this guy Magnuson. That's. That's awesome. That rocks. Good for him.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, Enhanced Games, total bust. Turns out. Turns out getting a bunch of guys who lost as regular athletes, they're still not better than the good athletes, like, the best athletes.

[Big Cat]

I couldn't believe that there weren't more weightlifting world records.

[PFT Commenter]

That.

[Big Cat]

That should be the one sport that, yeah, would be, like, very easy.

[PFT Commenter]

But no, I think, I think I saw that the fastest. The guy who won the hundred meter dash would have finished last in the Olympics.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the final,997. Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think that might have been. It might be the, the women's world record, 9.97.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay. So they got something.

[Big Cat]

But that's still crazy. Like, yeah, these guys just weren't very, very good. Also, my. Who's back of the week. Is dental health oral hygiene important? You know, we've talked a little bit on this show about the importance of flossing. But I also think that we should probably let our audience know because I found out today. You guys might have found out, too. I've been brushing my teeth wrong my entire life, and I just found out about it today. Bryce Harper put out a video just like him calmly talking to the camera about God knows what. And he squeezes the toothpaste directly into his mouth like he Bukakis himself with toothpaste.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And then he puts the toothbrush into his mouth afterwards and then brushes from that. Honestly, it makes a. It makes a lot of sense. I, I thought it was weird when I first saw it, but the more I think about it, like, you're not wasting any toothpaste. You just suck it right in. It's never going to fall off the brush that way. If you put it under the water after you put the toothpaste onto the brush, the water's not going to push it off. It feels Like, I think I've been brushing my teeth wrong my entire life.

[Max Delente]

I love the way you're going about this. Pft. I was ready to go. I was ready to go to war, but you're. You're basically doing my war for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Delente]

And I appreciate that from you.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you want to go to war? I think it's stupid.

[Max Delente]

Have you ever tried it?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I cannot say I have.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you going to try it tonight?

[Max Delente]

Tonight, I will be trying.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, you. You only brush your teeth in the morning, right?

[Max Delente]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

I thought that. That Memes told me that your only morning guy.

[Big Cat]

No, he brushes teeth at night. Then in the morning when he's in the tub, he just.

[Max Delente]

He.

[Big Cat]

He takes a big mouthful of tub water and switches around.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. That's what it was. Sorry. Yeah, I just. I. For some reason, all the guys told me that you brush your teeth once a day.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max Delente]

I don't know where.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what they said.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait to go back to the dentist for the first time in my life. I've been flossing. I've been flossing like. Like, oh, twice a day. I'm just. I'm gonna walk in there with, like, so much confidence. Have you ever done that? Gone to the dentist when you're like, I know. I've been really good for the last, like, six months. No, never happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Not six months. Like, I'll put together, like, a hot, like, 10 days. Yeah, when I. When I see the calendar coming up, I'm like, yeah, you know what? Let's get serious for a second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but Bryce, I think he. I think he just hacked dental health.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna keep an open mind about it.

[Big Cat]

What's the problem with this?

[Zach]

The dry paste in your mouth? There's no way dry paste is to play.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, but then you put the water on.

[Big Cat]

You put the water.

[Max Delente]

The water gets in your mouth at

[Zach]

some point, but it's so separated between pace and what. You need unity there before you go

[PFT Commenter]

in mouth, you know?

[Big Cat]

But your mouth should be wet. Like, I've got a top point.01% of mouth biome. And so it's like good lubrication. That's. So when the paste goes in, I feel like it just. It becomes the foam memes.

[PFT Commenter]

What's going on in your head right now?

[Max Delente]

Just said, what if they never lose in the middle of this conversation?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, yeah, yeah. Memes, you need to get. I feel like because of the whole snafu with the camera. You didn't get your moment as much as you should have. Like, this is sick, dude.

[Memes]

I mean, they just showed on the TV every team that had an 11 game win streak wins the finals.

[PFT Commenter]

How many teams were they?

[Memes]

Five teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. That's pretty good.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I. Yeah, I would imagine that teams that win a shitload of playoff games in a row tend to.

[PFT Commenter]

It was just a good graphic. Yeah, it's good graphic and like, what

[Memes]

if they just never lose again?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, listen, I. Everyone's like, there's people who think, you know, the Eastern conferences, it's obviously not as good as the west, but who cares? There's wasting teams.

[Memes]

Yeah, I would debate that. It's just as hard as the West.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know about that.

[Big Cat]

But you've won 11 games in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

You've. You've done it in a. What I'm saying is I don't think the east is as good as the West. I don't think it matters with how good the Knicks are playing. They're killing teams. Like, these are playoff teams.

[Memes]

Yeah. We just. We just dominated the highest payroll team in the league.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What are you guys?

[Memes]

Two.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, It is crazy to go back to being down two under the Hawks. It was scary hours because it did feel like a fork in the road because you guys, you guys traded all these picks for. For Mikhail Bridges and the cat trade. It's like you got to just do it with these guys. And you have.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, that was. That was frightening.

[PFT Commenter]

But now, now you're here. Is C.J. mcCollum's not walking through that.

[Memes]

Well, C.J. mcCollum turned into God for two games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right. My. Who's back of the week is the. I have two. I have the San Francisco Giants. I don't know if you guys saw, but they had their celebration get banned. Where they were. They were humping each other. But now they have a new celebration, which I think is under the rules. But it's awesome. One guy humps and it's like a kill shot to the other two guys. Watch this.

[Big Cat]

It's just a.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a quick boom and then he kills them. It's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Oh, like he's shooting a laser dick. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's sick. I love the Giants. That's. That's a cool celebration.

[Big Cat]

I don't know why they weren't allowed to touch tips.

[PFT Commenter]

It I. Something about the kids and he's just boys having fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then my other who's back is Hamburgers cheeseburgers Because I'm. I've declared. It's the summer of burgers. I'm gonna eat 100 burgers, probably more. I actually want to eat 200. But I'm also. My wife gave me a look like,

[Big Cat]

what are we doing here and how many days.

[PFT Commenter]

The summer. Summer just started.

[Big Cat]

So. Summer started.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It goes and then it ends.

[Big Cat]

Labor Day.

[Zach]

Labor Day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. About four this weekend. I just. I'm tired of. I'm tired of, like, you know, pretending that, like, there's other things that we should be eating besides hamburgers. Hamburgers are the best. Cheeseburgers are the best. I don't need a chicken skewer. I don't, you know, like, I like a hot dog. I'm a hot dog guy. But cheeseburger is just the greatest. You know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna eat so many cheeseburgers. And I'm. And by the way, I'm grilling them. I'm not talking about ordering them from restaurants. I also. Yeah, I went trust Tree Grill. Twitter sucks. I was like, listen, I'll. I'll take my ball and go. I'll take my burger and go home. I'll just eat these burgers for the love of the game and not even tweet about them.

[Big Cat]

Post them in black and white. Yeah, they love that shit.

[PFT Commenter]

But I also have a take. I've been thinking about. Do you guys want to hear it? I'm. I'm a little. I'm a little nervous to say this out loud because I think people are going to get very upset about them.

[Hank Lockwood]

It's only 10 burgers a week, by the way, for the summer.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot of burgers. You can do it. No, I didn't say.

[Hank Lockwood]

I'm doing 200.

[PFT Commenter]

I double up every time. I'm going to probably. I pro. I'm really in my. In the back of my head. I'm going for 200. And I'm not ashamed to say that. I just love cheeseburgers, and I love hamburgers, and I love grilling, and it's fucking awesome. What do you say, Zach?

[Zach]

Is that per patty or per sandwich on the count?

[Hank Lockwood]

Oh, good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Per patty.

[Zach]

Got you.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yeah. But I'm not gonna double up, because that's where my take goes. I think smash burgers are. I think they're fake. I don't think you can. I don't think those are real burgers. People are like, oh, you got to do smash burgers.

[Big Cat]

This.

[Max Delente]

This takes hot on the streets right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it is. Okay, good.

[Max Delente]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so I have some back. I have some support.

[Max Delente]

You have a lot of support.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. I think smash burgers, like, I like

[Max Delente]

smash burgers, but there are a lot of people online.

[PFT Commenter]

They're fine, but they're just like, everyone's like, oh, you got to do smash burgers. You got to do smash burgers. What happened to just a good old fashioned American hamburger, Right? Nice, juicy, no cheese. No, no cheese. I say, I kind of interchange the hamburger. I'm almost always putting cheese on it. Yeah. Every now and then I'll be like, you know what, I want to just, I just want to eat some meat. It's like one in, I don't know, 20. But yeah, smash burgers. Get out of my face. I'm just not.

[Hank Lockwood]

I like smash burgers a lot.

[Big Cat]

I like them, they're thin. They're like a little more crispy. Sometimes I just think they're, I think,

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're not real burgers. For burger guys.

[Big Cat]

I'll eat any kind of burger. That's me. I just, I like, I take all burgers.

[PFT Commenter]

Well. No, I also think that the burgers have gotten, the people have gotten away from what makes a burger great. You just need the meat, the cheese, maybe a little ketchup. You don't need all the fixings. Just a good old fashioned grilled burger.

[Big Cat]

I've been getting into hot dogs, but hot dogs cooked like on a stick, like campfire style. Oh, I like over an open fire.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

I did that two nights this weekend. If you have like a fire pit and you got the, the like skewers, it's hard to make any other decision for dinner. If you've got the hot dogs right there and it takes you two seconds. It's really good. I love a good old fashioned weenie roast.

[PFT Commenter]

Would anyone like to join me on my journey? Anyone want to eat 100?

[Hank Lockwood]

A lot of bread.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to be married to the burger. I, I love burger. I'm going to eat a lot of burgers.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to eat so many.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to eat burgers. More hot dogs probably.

[PFT Commenter]

I also like to, I also like to make my own burgers. Like, I like to get the ground beef. I don't like to just get the pre made patties.

[Max Delente]

What's your fat percentage?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't care. Probably a lot.

[Max Delente]

No, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, are you talking about me personally?

[Max Delente]

I'm saying

[PFT Commenter]

34.

[Max Delente]

Are you going 80?

[PFT Commenter]

34.

[Max Delente]

Are you going 80?

[PFT Commenter]

20 technically, obese. I.

[Max Delente]

8020 is the, is the real conversion for a true burger.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's 80, but if you. 85, 15 is. Yeah, that. Yeah, because 80 20. I like 80 20, but it also sometimes starts fires.

[Max Delente]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I also, if you're going

[Max Delente]

for 100, like, you could go, you could go 90 10, and that's like,

[PFT Commenter]

yeah, I don't know, 90 10, but

[Max Delente]

that's, I mean, that's, that's a hell, that's a healthy meal.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I also think I might be. I might be my grilling prime. I might have just entered my grilling prime. I think I've decided that I think this is summertime finally there. No, but, like, in life, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm going to look back in 40 years and be like, yeah, somewhere in your early 40s, you were in your grilling prime.

[Zach]

Is your weapon of choice propane or.

[Hank Lockwood]

I still got time, though. There's a lot of time.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of time. But eventually you get to a point where it's like, I don't want to do the grilling anymore.

[Big Cat]

That's a fair question by Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a, A, A propane.

[Zach]

Propane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't think you can be in your grilling prime if it's propane. I think to be in your true grilling prime. You think that you're in it right now. No, but right now you think that you're in it, but I think later on, you're going to become such a grill guy. You're going to get the charcoal grill, and you'll be like, now I'm in my prime.

[PFT Commenter]

Takes too long. Set it all up. Takes too. I get it. It tastes better, all that stuff. I have a back patio. I like to go out there. I like to turn on the grill. I like to grill my burgers, and I'm gonna do it all summer long. I'm gonna eat so many burgers. 200 is the real number. I just want that on the record. 200 is the real number. What. What are you looking up, Max?

[Max Delente]

I was just looking up charcoal grill.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, I like charcoal grills. It's just, it is so much longer, and you have to, like, prep it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to be like, hey, you couldn't do 100.

[Max Delente]

You couldn't do 100. Yeah, charcoal grill.

[PFT Commenter]

I like to just be.

[Max Delente]

We're going, we're going for quantity over quality.

[PFT Commenter]

And I've just got, I've got it down right now. I got My new grill is just great, and I got it. I got the timing down. I got ever. I've been just. I'm on a hot streak where I've just been hitting perfect. Perfect grilling. You know, there's nothing better when you cook a huge, like, huge, like, everything, and you just nail it all and you're like, yes.

[Max Delente]

Can we get a grill for the office?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, absolutely. I actually was thinking about that if I'm gonna hit this goal, I'm gonna have to eat some weekday burgers.

[Hank Lockwood]

I'm down with that.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, that should be for lunch every day. Yeah, that's easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, then I'll blast through my goal, but I gotta do some. I gotta mix in some weekdays.

[Max Delente]

1. One burger for lunch every day. That's easy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good. I might lose weight. Yeah, I know. If I just eat burgers, it might be bad for my health overall, but my weight might go down.

[Max Delente]

90.

[PFT Commenter]

10. 90 10.

[Max Delente]

I'm not even saying 96. 4. You could go 96 4.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to do that.

[Max Delente]

I made 964 burgers.

[PFT Commenter]

Are they good? I don't think I'm. I don't think I've ever touched 96 for.

[Max Delente]

Nah, 96 for you.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the point of eating them?

[Max Delente]

Because it's like a. Hell, it's like a healthy weeknight meal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know, but, like, does it even taste good? It's like jerky.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, no, jerky's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerky is great, but jerky's jerky not. I don't want jerky burger.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm not doing any of the fancy stuff. Everyone's like, hey, what are all the top. Listen. Right down the middle. I like to make. As our good friend Billy Football always said, let the beat talk. I like to let the meat talk.

[Big Cat]

But you put. You put salt on it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, no salt. Pepper. A little crushed red pepper. But I'm saying, like, you know, people being like, oh, you got to put an egg on it or peanut butter, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the egg on the burger. One person, one guy was really hungover. He's like, oh, it's so good. The burger egg makes the burger worse. I'm not afraid to say it. I like pickles and I like eggs. Eggs on the side. If you're going to get an egg, don't put it on the burger.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that take. Strong take.

[Big Cat]

I like the tomato. I like the lettuce. Sometimes. Sometimes the onion.

[Max Delente]

Pickles.

[Big Cat]

Pickles. Ketchup, Mustard. Pickles.

[Max Delente]

And onions is.

[Big Cat]

Is a. I'm a simple man when it comes to my burger.

[Hank Lockwood]

Sometimes Summer burger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone join us.

[Big Cat]

I'm a very serious burger guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's bring back burgers.

[Big Cat]

I'm a solemn burger.

[PFT Commenter]

We, as. We as men should not be ashamed to be like, hey, you know what? Oh, you're grilling. I'll take three burgers. That should be a.

[Big Cat]

That's why I like that. Everyone can say, that's why I like the hot dogs. Because with the hot dogs, you can regulate your, like, I.

[Hank Lockwood]

Three burgers is a lot.

[Big Cat]

Three burgers a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's what I'm saying. I don't want to be shamed anymore.

[Big Cat]

And then you can also have another side. If you got two dogs.

[Hank Lockwood]

That's just.

[Big Cat]

Then you can go three dogs. And then that's the equivalent of one burger.

[PFT Commenter]

That's burger shaming.

[Hank Lockwood]

No, that's fat shaming. No, Three hot dogs. That's fine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Three burgers. Everyone should be like, hey, you know what? Yeah, that guy rocks.

[Big Cat]

The equivalent.

[PFT Commenter]

He's going for 200 burgers.

[Big Cat]

Three hot dogs to one burger.

[Max Delente]

So the 100's out. Out the window. You haven't said 100 in, like, 10 minutes. It's 200. Also, your wife is going to be disgusted when she hears this segment.

[PFT Commenter]

It's also dawned on me that, Hank, you were very much alike in this one respect. We are streaky eaters. It dawned on me as I was driving, and I was like, what if I'm just sick of burgers in, like, two weeks? We do do that.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where we hit something hard. Real hard.

[Big Cat]

Not me.

[PFT Commenter]

We had cheese steaks for, like, every meal for, like, 10 days straight. Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

I just go all in for, like, all in. 10 to 10. 10 to 14 days. And then take.

[PFT Commenter]

Never touch it.

[Hank Lockwood]

Three months off.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank Lockwood]

At least.

[Max Delente]

When was the last time we got those wings? Yeah, we were getting those every day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, so this could be a big mistake. But guess what? I'm. People remember, you know, Hank, you remember what? 2014, when I ate hot dogs. Ate a hot dog every day. Trying to get Carmelo to the bulls. Didn't work, but I ate a lot of hot dogs. Also found out it was, like, the equivalent of smoking, like, four packs of cigarettes a day.

[Big Cat]

What kind of hot dogs were you eating?

[PFT Commenter]

I was just eating a whole pack of hot dogs every day, guy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, like the. Yeah, that's too many. That's too many.

[Max Delente]

Burgers are healthier than Dogs. Especially if you're making them.

[Big Cat]

Not necessarily. Yes, you can get, like, a real good dog. A real good dog. Handmade.

[Max Delente]

Handmade.

[PFT Commenter]

I like it. We're having a new nutrition debate here. Handmade. I don't know. I'm just saying. I don't know the answer to this.

[Max Delente]

If you're making burgers. If you're making burgers at home, it's pretty.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. I could not tell you which one is.

[Big Cat]

Well, if you.

[PFT Commenter]

If you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, if you grill the burger yourself and you cook off a lot of that fat. You don't have carbs with a bun. Are you gonna go buns every time?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I gotta go buns every time.

[Max Delente]

Yeah. You get some of the keto buns?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, I'm not doing that. Come on.

[Max Delente]

I'm just trying. I'm just trying to.

[PFT Commenter]

Trying to bring back being a man. Okay, I'll take four burgers now.

[Max Delente]

We're at four.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me. Hit me with four burgers.

[Max Delente]

Four burgers is a lot of burgers. Three. Three. Four burgers. A lot of burgers.

[PFT Commenter]

See how I'm sliding the negotiation? All right, Zach, who's your. Who's back?

[Zach]

Who's back? This week it's gonna be Johnny Manzo because he's back winning in a different arena this time. Yeah, Johnny Manzo. First round victory. Or Bob Menery. I didn't know Johnny Menzel could kick like that. He got in the ring, got it done. Brandished 14. It was actually a lot of fun to watch. I don't know if you guys saw any of the clips or anything, but

[Big Cat]

is he gonna fight again?

[Hank Lockwood]

It was funny. It was funny fight. I. I did say there was no chance in hell this fight happens, so credit to them for actually following through and fighting the kickboxing. I think it's like when we do sports and stuff, it's like watching non kickboxers trying kickbox makes them look so unathletic.

[PFT Commenter]

So unathletic.

[Hank Lockwood]

But it's funny to watch.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, the mouth guard was so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Menary was. Dana White said that he had. He had seen him at like 4am at the casino where the tunnel of chaos was the. Like the night before. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

They kicked him out the red rocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Max Delente]

Did you see the mouth guard thing?

[PFT Commenter]

No. What do you. Spit it out.

[Max Delente]

Bob Menary's getting. Getting his kicked in and his mouth guard falls out. And the ref notices that the mouth guard is out. And he picks up the mouth guard and puts it in Menary's mouth He's getting. As he's getting his kicked in and then Menary almost immediately. Immediately spits the mouth guard back out

[PFT Commenter]

because he thought the fight would get stopped.

[Max Delente]

Like, I don't know what the plan was, but it was. It was very funny watching the ref like. Like squat down to try and get this mouth guard back in his mouth.

[Big Cat]

I think like, if you can't breathe, if you're having a hard time and, and you don't have great cardio, it's an instinct to just like spit whatever you've got out of your mouth. That's with the. The divers. Yeah, that go down below. Like, you go down super far, you panic and you just have like a natural urge to pull the mouthpiece out and then you try to breathe in. That's what Bob Memory did. But he was just. He just breathed in some hammer fists.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was. That was tough. It was. It was not a good fight. Oh, by the way, I think we have. Oh, breaking moose. Breaking moves. The Houston Astros have thrown a no hitter.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Another one that was in.

[PFT Commenter]

That's incredible, Max. Then he thought something. Houston Astros throwing. How many hits did the Rangers get, Max, by the way?

[Max Delente]

Zero.

[PFT Commenter]

I bet on the Rangers, which. That sucks.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Max Delente]

How's that feel?

[PFT Commenter]

Really bad.

[Max Delente]

Good.

[PFT Commenter]

How many hits did the Rangers get?

[Max Delente]

0.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's a no hitter.

[Max Delente]

0.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be a no hitter.

[Max Delente]

Fake as.

[PFT Commenter]

Proud Ranger fan. Ranger apologist said, if the Rangers get no hit, I will delete my account, never return. Whoops. Sorry, dude.

[Max Delente]

Good thing he can keep his account.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he can't. They got no hit, Zach. Anything else?

[Zach]

Also, I guess from the same event, professor or professional actor? Ray J. He. He thought they had something set up pre game and I guess it didn't fall through.

[PFT Commenter]

Professional actor.

[Max Delente]

Yeah, he's been great filmmakers.

[Big Cat]

I've seen him in a film.

[Max Delente]

Five walks by the Astros, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that has nothing to do.

[Big Cat]

Do you know what a no hitter is, Max?

[Max Delente]

Fake as.

[Big Cat]

Are you taking perfect game Max? Fake as perfect game Max. That's what we call him.

[Justin Reed]

The guy.

[PFT Commenter]

The guy pitched.

[Max Delente]

The guy pitched six innings. 97 pitches. Six innings starter.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max Delente]

Terrible.

[Big Cat]

All right. No hits, no hits. That's kind of crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That's no hits, Max. That'd be no hits. Okay. Good job, Zach. Should we get to our interviews?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is now New Orleans Saints running back, former Jacksonville Jaguar, Travis A chain. I think I screwed that up. Did I screw that up?

[Travis Etienne]

No, you. You got it right.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay. So we asked this. We're on Grit week right now. We asked us to start every single interview on Grit week presented by DraftKings. What does the word grit mean to you?

[Travis Etienne]

Grit. What grit means to me is just. Just the ability to keep going, not give up for real, just keep fighting. No matter circumstances, no matter how far you might seem out of it, just maybe to just grind and keep going.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. I like that.

[Big Cat]

Is there one part in your career where, where you felt like it was harder than most to, to keep going and to keep grinding where you wanted to quit?

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, I would say to pinpoint something. Maybe, maybe My rookie season when I had season end of injury just to be able to come back. But nah, I never wanted to quit. I would say. Best way I could put it is like we played the Steelers one time and I rolled my ankle real bad and I might. Didn't want to go out there and have to play anymore, but I just taped it up and just fought through after and fought through and we won a game. So just being tough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

I never wanted to quit now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

So we started. I started, I think, saying your name right, but it's crazy. You've been in the NFL for five years now and people just weren't saying your name correctly. What was going on with that? Would you tell them? And then they just wouldn't say it.

[Travis Etienne]

No, no. Honestly, it started in college. Okay. It happened in college, in my freshman year of college. That's when I was trying to correct everybody for like a year and like two years actually, just trying to correct everyone. And then at that point you just gave up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's not gritty. You should have kept it.

[Travis Etienne]

That wasn't great. But. But you gotta understand, at that time, if I had nil, I probably would have spoke up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

So I was just trying to just get my name out there, honestly, become a high rated college athlete, really just boost my driver ratings. I wasn't really worried about who knew me outside the building. I feel like all my friends, all my close friends, my family, they all knew who I was. So that's the only thing that really mattered to me and the outside world. I never really cared, honestly. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's got to feel good coming back. You're a Louisiana boy coming back home. Now everyone's gonna say your name correctly because everyone knows how to. I feel like every name in Louisiana is, Is said differently than how it's spelled. Is that fair to say?

[Travis Etienne]

Oh, yeah. No, most definitely. My friends, like, they give me. They give me a crap about it. Be like, man, they say your name wrong because you let the. The state. You should have never left the state. Yeah, they always tell me that. So what?

[PFT Commenter]

So here's a follow up question. Were you close to going to lsu? What happened there? Because it does feel. We were. We were in Baton Rouge yesterday talking to Coach Kiffin and also Coach O. And we're talking about how, like, Louisiana, Louisiana is one of the only states, maybe Ohio, where kids from Louisiana go to lsu. Like, that's just what they do. Was that a hard thing for you to be like, I'm going to Clemson.

[Travis Etienne]

No, not really, because at the time, man, I was going to lsu, like for two years, like my junior and senior year, I was there every weekend watching the football games, watching guys, watching Fournette. And so I feel like I already had the LSU experience in some sense. And then the formation, the offense they ran. I kind of knew my body type, my body style, and for what I wanted to be. My goal was to get to the NFL. My goal wasn't to be just a college player. You know, my dream is to be in the NFL. And I felt like I knew I had to develop ways, I had to develop my game, ways that LSU probably wouldn't have been able to develop my game at the time. Because Dolphins that they ran the corners they had, it didn't really fit my scheme, my style. So I just let it from, like a business standpoint, even back then, it wasn't no hard feelings, man. I'm still an LSU fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it worked out business wise. You had a great career. Signed a new contract with the Saints. The national championship game, though, being in New Orleans against lsu, you're on the other sideline. Were you like, like that? That. I mean, you probably had family who were probably close fan. Was it close family rooting for you? But then maybe some extended family being

[Travis Etienne]

like more Tigers, close family, always rooted for me, but like, maybe like extended family, cousins, they'll let you know, like, they're going for that shoe. But, I mean, it was a tough game, man. Just looking back on it, cuz, I remember like, like, man, just, just when Joe and just threw that ball at Jamar and they got clicking and then we go out and have three and out, this three and out. I'm like, man, we keep giving the ball back to Joe, you know, And I was like, man, you got to let them boys keep doing what they do. I felt like I'm not going to get into that, you know, a long time ago. Yeah, they won one, I won one. That's how I look, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you walked away from it. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You took down Alabama and then obviously,

[Travis Etienne]

like that, that game, I. I want to say I probably got the ball like two times in the second half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

And like one. One for a touchdown. So it's like I control what I can control in that moment. So that's how I look at it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what you got to say. You should be like, if they gave me the ball more, we would have won.

[Travis Etienne]

We would have won.

[Big Cat]

You just ran out of time. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You gotta lean on me. Opportunity and then you get to the NFL. What was the process like coming to the NFL? You talked about, like, going to Clemson because it was a scheme that, like, you knew that you could be successful in, that they could work with you to prepare you for. For the next level. When you get to the NFL, was it harder than you thought it would be? Or was it what you thought it'd be? Or was it maybe. Maybe it's like, oh, yeah, this is easy. I can do this.

[Travis Etienne]

Nah, it definitely wasn't easy. I feel like when I got to the NFL, that's the hardest football ever been for me. When I got to college, football was fairly easy. But when I got to league, you learned out real quick that they get paid millions of dollars to play play football as well. And once you just lock in, you have to just learn a game, just learn a different style of football. But once you lock in and understand who you are as a player and just build your confidence back up, because just going to the league, just being a rookie again, you just got to start all over again. That's really what it is. You're just a freshman. You got to work your name up, work your way up, and just. Just believe in yourself. And I feel like the confidence in the game, speed, the very fundamentally sound like it just. It just, you know, it's a different game. Everyone's here for a reason. Everyone takes their craft seriously.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Is it harder to adjust to the speed of not only the defense, but, like, your own. Your own blockers on the offensive line? Like, everybody's a little bit bigger, everybody's a little bit f, and you have to figure out where they're about to be so that you can make your cuts accordingly. Did that take you a little bit to adjust to that?

[Travis Etienne]

I would say, I'll say, yeah, it took me a little time to adjust because as a running back, you kind of just. I know in college I didn't have to watch film. Like, I didn't have to, like, be in there all day, know the blocking schemes and things like that. But when I got to the league, I had to learn those things. And once I learned those things and once I just started playing football above the shoulders, that's when I was able to get better in the league. Because you do have to know those things, like the docking schemes, where they're going, who they're targeting and stuff like that, and just knowing what the players designed to get. And most guys, you know, I feel like that separates the good and the great people. Like, you got, like, Tom Brady, like, he's a prime example. Like, he played a quarterback position, but he was always great at just taking what the defense gives him. You'll never see Tom Brady go out there and try to force things. No, he just played the game the right way consistently over time, and that's why he was one. He's the greatest of all time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When you were on the Jaguars, did you. Were you. Whenever you were on the sideline? Maybe it's a blowout. Maybe the game's like, in the fourth quarter. Would you ever look up and be like, why are people in the pool?

[Travis Etienne]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. It'd be like, the first quarter, I looked at them like. Like, I wish I could get in that pool, honestly. Because it'd be hot, right? It'd be hot. Especially beginning of the season. Nah, it was steaming, bro. But I feel like that's always the cool experience, you know? And I feel like. You don't say nowhere else.

[PFT Commenter]

We just love. We love, like, every time they show it on TV where just be, like, you know, they'll come back from commercial and they'll be like, people, like, having a vacation in the pool in the

[Big Cat]

NFL games, wearing, like a. Yeah. Wearing, like, jeans, like. Like a hoodie dress. And they're in the pool just, like, having this 55 degrees. But I'm going to get in that pool while I'm watching the game.

[Max Delente]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

No, no, no. I feel like that pool is a great. Is a great idea, huh? Honestly, I feel like when I retire, I get older, I definitely got to catch me a game in that pool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you should.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. Yeah. How awesome is it, being back home?

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, man, it's the best feeling, honestly, just. Just being back home, like, being around my family, I feel like my family is real important to me, and I really. I didn't realize how much I was missing them because I was just always so busy with work. I was always just able to just. Just distract myself with my job. But whenever I got home, it's like, I still got my job, but I just got, like, this feeling of just, like, comfort, I guess, or just like this sense of just. I don't know. I just feel whole again, really. Right to where I may be. Like, I call my mom, tell her I'm coming home this weekend. She cooked me something up to eat to where I'm in Jacksonville, man. I ain't making that. Yeah, that on the weekend ain't no coming home.

[Zach]

What is she.

[PFT Commenter]

What's her. What's the best meal she cooks. Cooks.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh. I wouldn't say she have a best meal, man. I. I feel like that would be a. A disgrace to her cooking skills, man, because.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's all good.

[Travis Etienne]

It's all great.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your favorite?

[Travis Etienne]

I would say my favorite. I feel like I go through phases.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

If it's like, you're having. You're having a bad week, and you're like, mom coming home for a meal,

[Travis Etienne]

if I'm having a weekend, I need something to pick me up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

To make me feel like a football player again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

I need that gumbo.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's the same. Same for me. That's why two gumbos a day when

[Travis Etienne]

I'm down here, all that red beans with the fried pork chops on the side.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

That's pressure, too. But it don't matter what. It don't matter what it is, man. That food in there cooked. It's gonna make me feel great.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it like an actual. Maybe it's not a concern, but, like, you're gonna have to watch your weight being back home, because that. The thing about being Louisiana, it's like every time we come here, it's like, this is the best place on earth. The food is so good. You can eat everything. Is there a little bit of you? Like, I gotta. I gotta make sure that I watch this because, I mean, it's so good.

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, honestly, not no more, but I feel like if I would have got drafted here and I didn't, like, learn things, I learned just being in the NFL, I would have been terrible because I would have just been eating like I ate in high school and still trying to do things, still trying to go out there and be a great football player, where I understand now that your diet is very much important, just like everything else is inside of your game. So I'm grateful that I learned that over the course of five years in Jacksonville to Where I ain't got to learn that discipline again.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And that's so true. Like, if you get drafted anyone, I think to New Orleans, you better have a good head on your shoulders. There's some opportunities to make some. Some. Some bad decisions in the kitchen, some bad decisions at the bar here. I want to eat and drink everything in the state whenever I'm here.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And if I'm, like 22 years old with. With $30 million in my pocket, I'm probably gonna fuck up quite a bit if I'm here, but. Yeah. So. All right. It's great that you're back here. How Much of a draw was it that you get to play with Tyler Schock?

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, I feel like Tyler's amazing, man. I feel like I was excited, but I was really excited once I met him. Once I met him, I feel like I understand why everyone has this just belief about what he can do and who he is as a person. And that's because he is a great person first. And he's a leader, man. He's not shying away from it. And then he's been through adversity, man. Like, just his journey to get here to the league. He's been through adversity. So, like, you know, he hungry. He. You sense that hunger on him. And he wants to be great. He wants to win. He loves the city. He embraces the city. So I feel like that is all things that make a great quarterback now. It's just for him to just show that week in and week out. And I feel like this would be a great year for him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. I mean, catchable ball. Ball, like real catchable ball. We love watching Tyler shot.

[Big Cat]

Did you. Did you used to go to the Dome growing up, man?

[Travis Etienne]

No. So I went to the Dome. I went to the Bayou Classic. That. That was really it. So this, whenever I play, that'll be my first game in the Dome.

[Big Cat]

First game in the Dome. That's gonna be an amazing feeling.

[Travis Etienne]

Well, professional championship.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, I. I forget about that.

[PFT Commenter]

You should have gotten the ball more. Well, it's go different if you get the ball more. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Everyone always says, like, trap, he's in that building. He's unstoppable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Not gonna lie. I suppress that memory. I don't even think about that.

[Big Cat]

I suppress it too. But that was mostly because we had like 16 hand grenades afterwards.

[PFT Commenter]

We were ignorant that game. We were very drunk.

[Travis Etienne]

Now after that game, I'm gonna have a hand grenade myself.

[PFT Commenter]

All right? So I asked coach more. This because we just taped with him. You're from a small town with 10,000 people. Jennings, Louisiana. At what age did you realize you were the man?

[Travis Etienne]

I don't think I ever looked at it like that coming out of Jennings. Just because it wasn't that many people, you know?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but what age were you, like, football wise?

[Travis Etienne]

That I was going to the league.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, that's different. Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

I would say I didn't realize that till my freshman year of college.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Travis Etienne]

Until I got around other guys and who wanted the same things as I did. Cause growing up in Jennings, man, like, not everybody has Old dreams and goals to get to the league or even get to college. So I wasn't even. I was just playing football in high school just to be with my friends, just to hang out, be cool, kick with the guys. Really nothing else to do. And then when I got to college after my freshman year, really, man, we played Alabama Sugar bowl, man. Yeah. That stadium was bad to me before I got here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

But before I changed into Caesar Dome, it was no good memories in there. But after that year, and then, like, just going through my freshman season and then being able to get the opportunities to play and make a splash, and I was maybe like a 180 pounds, right. And just. Just knowing and just seeing the other guys lay the blueprint out for me and then seeing those guys get drafted. So I'm like, man, if I just do what they do, I can get drafted, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

And I feel like that's when it clicked for me, my freshman year of college. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. Do you have a game or a moment from high school, though, where you were just like, do you have a. A crazy touchdown, like, amount of touchdown game or yards where you just put it on another team?

[Travis Etienne]

I mean, we played West Feliciana, we played West Luciana. One game. I probably had like 400 yards, six touchdowns and loss.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Travis Etienne]

No. So, like, that year of football, in my life, we had the. We had the best offense in 3A and we had the worst defense in 3A.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Travis Etienne]

Like that game, I had 11 tackles as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, geez.

[Travis Etienne]

I was playing both ways.

[Big Cat]

11 tackles, six touchdowns, 400 yards, 400 yards rushing. How many yards receiving did you have?

[Travis Etienne]

Nah, we ran. We was in a split back veer. Okay. So we probably had like two pass plays the whole game.

[Big Cat]

How is it possible that you gave up that many points on defense when you were running the ball every down on offense, man.

[Travis Etienne]

Cause they. They had really good players, too. They got one guy, he played for the. The Chargers. Now he's a punt returner.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Travis Etienne]

He played for. He played for them at that time and had a couple guys went to college. But like I said, I was playing with my homies, man. I was playing my friends, right? Like, they're not getting D1's looks. They're not getting scouted. Like, these my guys I play with in the backyard, right.

[Justin Reed]

We're really good.

[Travis Etienne]

Cause I'm here, honestly, like, that's why we was winning games.

[PFT Commenter]

11 tackles, 400 yards, six touches. You had to have been so tired.

[Travis Etienne]

Now, that year, that's that was like my. That year I probably scored like 50 touchdowns and I was 30 yards away from 3,000 yards and only 11 games.

[PFT Commenter]

And how many tackles in the season?

[Travis Etienne]

I probably not that many tackles, but I did have a pick six that season.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Big Cat]

Did ever you ever think about playing defense in college? Or was it always, I'm gonna be running back?

[Travis Etienne]

No, I was always. I was gonna be a running back, but if I knew what I knew now, I probably would have played a little defense. I probably would play a little defense.

[Big Cat]

You just miss it? You miss hitting people?

[Travis Etienne]

No, not that. It just from like, just from a career aspect, a longevity standpoint, just, just the way they treat defenders, the way they treat running backs. Just from that holistic approach to where I know I could have been a great DB if I worked at it tirelessly every day and just put my. Put effort towards it. And like, you see guys, like guys, I mean, everyone is great, don't get me wrong. But. But I feel like if you train and work hard on defense, it reward you better in the end to where you could put all your life in work into a running back. And we really just starting to transition the position back to where it was when I was growing up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was about to say, I think I feel like it's made a slight comeback the last couple years.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh, yeah, it's making a comeback for sure.

[Big Cat]

But were you on that zoom call, the running back zoom call where you

[Travis Etienne]

got together and I don't think I made enough plays.

[Big Cat]

I think the zoom call was just like, hey, man, this sucks. Yeah, I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Yeah, let's see if we can do something about it. But yeah, I do feel like, you know, there have been some very, very high profile running backs that have gotten good contracts now, so it might be on back on the come up. I got a couple friends that are Jaguars fans and they, they loved you when you played in Jacksonville. I remember it was like 2022. It was a few seasons ago. I was talking to one of them. They're like, hn has a unique ability to cut and. And we think it's because of his feet. Are your feet different than other other running backs?

[Travis Etienne]

Hey, now, somebody Devin Neil told me a damn practice, man. You say you were like, you're a figure skater. Yeah, and I was like, man, because like my feet, I just always, my feet was always like this growing up. I just always had a duck feet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they go out to the side.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, you go out to the side. And I kind of Just learned to just. It's always been natural to me. But. Yeah, I guess it's not natural, but I just always. How I ran. So I.

[Big Cat]

And I did see a video where you were running and you're going really fast, but your feet are, like, pointed out, and then you cut it out.

[Justin Reed]

Like, I'm.

[Big Cat]

How do you make that cut? I didn't see that cut come. Oh, yeah, it's because his foot was already pointed out.

[Travis Etienne]

Was already like that. So, like, I'm messing the picture and like, I was a. Caught the ball and I'm taking off and my foot was legit pointed sideways and I'm going straight. Yeah, it just happens, man. I just.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's a great ability that you combine that with all the hard work that you've put in. I feel like you were meant to play the running back position.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh, yeah. Not for sure. I mean. I mean, growing up, I always wanted to be a running back. Like I said, LSU actually offered me a. A safety. They offered me a safety. Cal offered me a safety position to play both, whatever. But I always wanted to be a running back, man. I love offense. I love scoring touchdowns. I never. I never was one. I always wanted to keep my jersey clean after the game. You know, I didn't want nobody to touch me. I wanted to go out there, be clean. Touchdowns, bring the. Bring everything you want. You know, you see the guys celebrating, man, I was a big Odell fan, so just watching those guys just. Do they. Do they dance whenever we get in the end zone, man, that just kind of just always what I wanted to

[Big Cat]

do and worked out for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Can we talk about the. The playoff game? Come back against the Chargers? Because that was insane. You had. You had a huge game, and I get over 100 yards rushing.

[Travis Etienne]

What.

[PFT Commenter]

Was there a moment at halftime where, like, what was said in the room where it's like, hey, everything that could go wrong has gone wrong? There's been. I think it was like three interceptions or something. It's like, but we're not out of this. And then just piece by piece, how did that all go down?

[Travis Etienne]

Nah. So I feel like the moment we kind of knew that game was changing, it was going into halftime. I think we scored a touchdown going into halftime. Maybe like. Maybe like with 17 seconds left or something like that. And then when you get in the locker room, you just looking around, you know the score is the score, but it's like, man, this is our season. We have on the line. So, like, just go out there and just Play your hardest, man. Like what you got to lose. Literally. Really? Yeah, like wishing got to lose. And I feel like Trev locked in, man. He came out laser focused. Really, man, I feel like he just put us on his back. Whenever he gave me the ball, I do what I do, you know, help him out. But Trev, Trev really, he locked in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

And he wrote all his runs from that first half and he would us a victory that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it was also like kind of like the Jaguars and Chargers are both similar organizations. Like the, you know, they haven't had super bowl wins, but they're, you know, some good seasons and some bad seasons. But I think you also probably looked and you're like, the Chargers are a bigger loser organization than Jaguars. So like, we gotta just win this game.

[Travis Etienne]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he's a Chargers fan, our guy.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But it is kind of true. Like, you stare in the mirror, you're like, we're the same. But you are. You're bigger losers than us.

[Travis Etienne]

I feel like when I, when I. When I think about the charges, like, like you said, I thought you got tears of NFL team. And I don't, I. I don't put them over there in that top tier, you know, But I mean, great, great, great organization. I feel like every, every organization is great. I feel like with the Jazz organization, just real young.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Being started in 95, this is a young organization. But I feel like we were able to transcend things or just able to like, just build a. Build a foundation. Just build like a. A standard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's going the right way. And what, what? It was the reaction amongst the guys when Liam Cohen was introduced and he did the juval thing because it was weird.

[Travis Etienne]

No, no, no, it was funny. I mean like my sister, she must have sent it to me and she was laughing, but I feel like he just didn't know. So I feel like. No, no, no one really took it against him. We always laughed at it. You know, it was funny to us at the time. But I. It just show you who Lynn, what Liam was, I feel like. But, but, but if you ask him to do it now, he gonna do it the right way. You feel me?

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, he's practicing.

[Travis Etienne]

It's like. It's not. He just didn't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

So. But, but nah, everybody was happy when he got Lim. Man, I don't know. Just when you meet Lim, his energy is just different. Yeah, his energy is very contagious. He's just one of those guys and he just able to just he able to just meet you where you are, no matter where you at.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

And I feel like as a coach, that's what you have to have. And he was a great motivator as well. Like, he will find things to just kind of use to help motivate us to be better on Sundays. And I feel like that's one of his greatest attributes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did he ever give you a game ball?

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You had a couple game balls?

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, I had a couple game balls.

[Big Cat]

I heard that your coach here, Kellen Moore, he. He gives out game balls to everybody. If you show up on Sunday, you have a pulse, you get a game,

[PFT Commenter]

there's game ball inflation. So don't feel so special when you get a game ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they don't. They don't mean as much.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You'll look around and everyone will have a game ball. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like you said, the kicker will have one. Be like, he did as much as me.

[Travis Etienne]

N. I feel like I treat every game ball.

[Big Cat]

Do you keep them?

[Travis Etienne]

I appreciate them all. Yeah, I got them all. I don't have them, like, hung up or anything, but I got them all. They just be laying around. But you're going to need.

[PFT Commenter]

You're going to need.

[Travis Etienne]

You don't.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't appreciate them?

[Travis Etienne]

No.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You haven't thrown them away?

[Travis Etienne]

I haven't thrown them away.

[Max Delente]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

They're somewhere.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah. Like, it's a game. Like, I don't know. I. I guess I just always been, like, an impactful player. So, like, when you get to this level, like, I feel like that's my job to go out there and to pack the game. And, like, I understand it's a game ball, but it's like, I want, like, I want a Super bowl, man. Like. Yeah, I feel like that ain't some. I throw down, you know, I want a Super Bowl. I want. I want, like, things that's going to, like, make you be remembered forever.

[Justin Reed]

Like.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, nobody's going to remember those game balls. In 20 years from now, I'll be showing my son, like, it'd be a great accomplishment. Accomplishment. But, like, if I get a Super bowl, man, like, they go talk about that forever.

[PFT Commenter]

That's facts.

[Travis Etienne]

People go tell my son about that. I ain't got to tell my son about the game balls.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's your son's name?

[Travis Etienne]

Saint.

[Big Cat]

Saint.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty cool.

[Travis Etienne]

That's amazing.

[Big Cat]

How old is he?

[Travis Etienne]

He just turned 1 April 3rd.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Travis Etienne]

He's probably, like, 13 going on 14 months.

[Big Cat]

That's right. And he. Is. He named After.

[Travis Etienne]

Nah. So I named We We.

[Justin Reed]

We.

[Travis Etienne]

We picked his name out before I was even like, officially a free agent. So, like, I had no idea I was even coming to this thing.

[Big Cat]

Saints. Yeah. That's. That's so cool, though. But now, now you're here and like, imagine if you did win a Super bowl and you got Saint right there.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

That's a pretty cool moment.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, that'd be greatest feeling ever. Yeah, I feel like that's what we're working to get to right now, you know, so just gotta. Just dreaming. I feel like you dream big enough, God can make it happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you say greatest moment ever. Like, let's just do like a thought exercise. Let's say week nine, you guys win 24, 21 against the Falcons, and you and 15 of your other teammates get a game ball. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that might happen.

[Big Cat]

At that point, you're going to be looking around and if you don't get a game ball, you're going to be like, my job.

[PFT Commenter]

What's wrong?

[Justin Reed]

Not going to lie.

[Travis Etienne]

If I don't get a game ball, then I feel like I appreciate them more because I'd be like, dang, I didn't do enough.

[PFT Commenter]

You should actually tell coach before. Be like, I don't want a game ball a year. Just be like, just because. Just like, then everyone. Someone else can get it, you know, because you are the way it sounds. Like if you score a touchdown, you get a game ball, you score a lot of touchdowns. That's a lot of game balls.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, No, I feel like I. I don't score touchdowns and not got a game ball before.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's usually how it works.

[Memes]

Not here, though.

[Travis Etienne]

Not here, though. No, no.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just be like, coach, get my ball to taste him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

But now, I mean, the league, I feel like, like if you win, I thought everybody deserve a game ball, I feel like, because I didn't been to where we didn't want three games the whole season, you know, so it was no game balls going around there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

When you lose.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Your coach was a little, Little different there. Urban Meyer. Yeah. Co worker of ours.

[Big Cat]

Now, what was that. What was that moment like in Jacksonville where you're coming home after that Thursday night game and somebody takes out their phone and they're like, is this, Is this his hand? That's coach. Is this coach's finger that I'm looking at right now?

[Travis Etienne]

No, no, no. It was crazy. I. I ain't going to spend too much on that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, because he is a co worker of ours now. So, like, we should also not talk about it.

[Big Cat]

I don't care. Because it was one of the funniest moments ever.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta understand, for guys like us in the show, we do. It was gold.

[Big Cat]

It was funny.

[PFT Commenter]

It was better than a game ball, you know, it was insane. Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

I'm sure he appreciated that night more the game ball. That's the best guy

[PFT Commenter]

here. Your other coach, Dabo. Is he weird?

[Travis Etienne]

No, no, Coach William is not. Nah, he's not weird. He just. He's just a God for him, man. I feel like he's a very loving guy. And I feel like to someone who don't know him, probably take him as weird because he's just very caring. Like he's loving. Like, I feel like he's a coach. Like, he'll call me on FaceTime, just randomly to see like how I'm doing and checking up on me. Just my mental spiritually. And I feel like most coaches don't go that in depth with players. And not that he won't do it with me, but he does with the players who aren't making plays. He just. Anyone he recruited or anyone that came to the organization, he's. He has a relationship with.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, but what about when he runs down the hill before everyone else? That's a little weird.

[Travis Etienne]

I feel like. I would say I. I feel like that's how he. Tapping back into his young self, I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Travis Etienne]

I don't know. I feel like as we get older, we start searching for them adrenaline rushes and I think that hill gives him one, you know, I feel like me running down the hill, my biggest fear was falling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

So I feel like how he runs down the hill, I would never run. I never ran down the hill like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Like, I would just skip because like, running down the hill is not happening. Because, like, you hit that, hit that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

He wanted to. He. That was his way. It's his way of getting amped up for the game and to run out of the field, feel like he's still like physically a part of the game, not just like mentally on the side.

[Travis Etienne]

You know what I'm saying? But if you really want he run

[PFT Commenter]

down that fast down that hill, he makes sure the camera follows him too.

[Travis Etienne]

Like, I'm surprised that he hasn't fallen down here. It has to be like a.

[Big Cat]

That'd be a real shame.

[Travis Etienne]

I'm surprised he hasn't though, because, like, he runs so fast. Like. Yeah, you're only speeding up and he's getting older. So it's like he's gotta be careful.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep those knees.

[Travis Etienne]

You start trying to slow down, needs to go back.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you ever go down the slide?

[Travis Etienne]

I went. Honestly, I go. Went down the side a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

I went down the slide. I got yelled at.

[Travis Etienne]

You got yelled?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was only for players. I just went down the slide. In the Clemson facility. They have a big slide and they were getting a tour and I just went on the slide and some guy was like, hey, you can't do that. Well, what am I gonna do now?

[Big Cat]

I'm down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're already down. You're like, I'm on the other side. We won't take it.

[Big Cat]

Climb back up.

[PFT Commenter]

That facility is insane though.

[Travis Etienne]

You know, that facility is nice. And then when. So I was the first class inside that facility. So, like, it was really amazing. Just like seeing that and just being in that building and being able to see things go up, I was just real cool. And like, at that time, it was one of the nicest facilities out there. So I'm grateful for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How much of a. Of a difference maker was it for you going to the free agency? And obviously you got family in New Orleans.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

You're very familiar with the city and the team, but was it like a 10 difference maker that you get to play more games inside now and air conditioning? You don't have to be in that sun all the time. I would think about that if I was running back, I'd be like, it sucks to be. To be hot.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, it sucks to be hot, but for me, it sucks to be cold. So I feel like I wasn't worried about the heat as much as I was worried about being somewhere where I'd just be freezing all the time, you know, not all the time because, like, when the season starts, it's great weather, great football weather, but once you get around that the December, January playoffs, man, that's when things get freezing. Like, it's a difference. Going. Traveling out there to play a game for four hours or. Whereas I'm out there all week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Inside the cold. Gotta go to work every day. Freezing.

[Big Cat]

You know, what's the coldest game, coldest game you ever had to play in?

[Travis Etienne]

For me that I could. I could remember, it was in Virginia Tech. I think we played like on a. It was in college. We played like there on Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving Day, man. And my froze, like, my froze went, like, numb. Like, my frozen. Like my toes, they were like bricks. And I think, I think I. Well, honestly, I think I definitely Subbed myself out that game. But not luckily. No, but luckily he was up. Yeah. So, like, coach wasn't looking for me, you know, so. But yeah, I was definitely done by the second quarter, man. It was like. It was no bueno. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Travis, it's been awesome. I got one last question for you. It's the Roback question. R, H, O, b a c k.com promo code. Take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take this is Zach. Zach's a Bucks fan.

[Zach]

How you doing, man? How are you today?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, what's up?

[PFT Commenter]

Doing well.

[Zach]

I was curious with your brother Trevor being on the Panthers and you now here with the Saints kind of in the same division, is there any pressure with game, like when game day's coming up to like show low, bro, kind of how it's done and perform, or is it all love in the family? Group chat leading up to the game?

[Travis Etienne]

I definitely got to show them how to perform, you know, because I feel like I can't take these moments for granted to show them that I'm the bigger brother. So I feel like I'm definitely going to just continue leaning on that. And then I played him already. We want to know. I think I had maybe like over 150 yards, so I definitely started great. But I got to continue to go and just. And now I get to show them twice. So now I'm the bigger brother. So I feel like there's nothing better than that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd love to hear that.

[Zach]

Setting a good example. And then also, it was cool. You're maturing. You got 94 jelly and 94 speed. I was wondering on an off day if you've ever maybe hopped on the game and just like absolutely cooked somebody playing as yourself.

[Travis Etienne]

All the time. All the time. Let's go, like, all the time, man. And honestly, I'm so excited to get on Madden this year because my friends, they always talk bad about the Saints, but now I'm on there, so I'll be able to, you know, get some stuff going and I definitely see them all in Madden this year.

[Zach]

That's gonna be unreal feeling. I love that for you. Thank you for your time, man.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, well, Travis, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate it. Best of luck this year and love watching you play football and. And you know, go, Tyler. Shuck is our guy. So you guys go kill it.

[Big Cat]

And if you run out of space for all the game balls that you're going to get this year, you can send them to us.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll take one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we'll take.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we will. Absolutely. We'll display.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you'll have. By, like, week six, you'll have, like, 10 games.

[Big Cat]

We would actually do, like, an HN museum in the corner, like, in our weight room at the office, which is every game ball that you get. If you don't feel like you've got the.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Big Cat]

The space or the. The shelving to handle all those game balls, we'll take care of it for you.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, yeah, no, no, I got y'.

[Memes]

All.

[Travis Etienne]

Probably. Probably next year. I might keep all these this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't think you understand how many game balls you're gonna get. So we'll talk maybe mid season, you'll be like, yeah, you know what, guys? I'm running out of space. All right. Thanks so much, man.

[Travis Etienne]

Appreciate y'.

[Memes]

All.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is two time super bowl champion, now New Orleans Saints. And it is grit week. It's Justin Reed. It is grit week presented by Chevy. So we start every grit week interview the same. What does the word grit mean to you?

[Justin Reed]

Grit. Grit to me is about tenacity. It's about being able to handle adversity. Like, hey, things get dirty and you just kind of dig your way out of it. You know, it doesn't need to be pretty. It just needs to get done.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that answer.

[Big Cat]

What's. What's a time in your sports career that you've had to battle through something where you've had to demonstrate high level of grit?

[Justin Reed]

Oh, man. I mean, that's kind of what sports are. I mean, nobody, nobody has the perfect story. But my second year in the league, I tore my labrum in training camp and I played the entire season with a busted up shoulder. I didn't practice through the week. I had a red jersey on. I was non contact. And the only time that I, I actually, you know, hit somebody was when we were playing the games on Sunday. And my guy who was behind me knew that anytime I made a tackle that I had to dive to my right and like overextend. Like he already started running on the field before, you know, I even got up because I'd have to come to the sideline. My shoulder would go numb for a little bit. It'd probably take like 30 seconds a minute to come back. I'd wait until I can do push ups. Like when I knew I could do push ups again, then I knew I can go back on the field. When I could do a push up, I'd run back out, out. And he kind of just did that over and over again for a whole season.

[Big Cat]

Did you get a surgery?

[Justin Reed]

I'm gonna say that, yeah, yeah, yeah. The doctor said Laborman ended up looking like string cheese.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

It was like they just, they couldn't fix it. They just took it out. And I ended up doing what's called a ladder jet procedure. Yeah, some Frankenstein stuff, bro. They cut off your, your coracoid process and they drill it into your shoulder.

[PFT Commenter]

Holy.

[Justin Reed]

As a bony block.

[Travis Etienne]

That's correct.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What was the rehab like from that?

[Justin Reed]

You know, first two months is. Is not much, and then after that, it's just a whole lot of range of motion, just a ton of bfr, a ton of stability stuff. Band work. Yeah, you just kind of. Just got to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty. So, yeah, this is. This is. You're. You're kind of underselling this. You had a torn labrum for an entire football season, so I'm assuming every single time you made a tackle, it was just excruciating pain.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it sucked. I mean, I was. I was getting loaded up on the turtle and everything else, too, to, you know, make my way through the game.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So was there any part of you, like, when you. When you get the torn labrum? There was no part of you is like, I got to get surgery now because. Was it because you were in your second year?

[Justin Reed]

My second year. Right. And it was a year that I really wanted to come onto the scene and, you know, earn my stripes and, you know, have some pelts on the wall. And, you know, I was supposed to be. You know, I had a really good rookie season. I was supposed to be the guy that year, and, you know, I wanted to show up for the team and start making a name for myself. I didn't want to, like, damn, you

[Big Cat]

know, so was there. Was there a guy that you'd have on the sidelines, like, you'd make a tackle? I'm assuming your shoulder would dislocate every time you would hit somebody.

[Justin Reed]

Okay, so sublux is, like. Not dislocation comes all the way out. A sublux is like a. A quick shift in and out, which hurts a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it would just do that. It would go numb. And, you know, I wouldn't. I really would. I wouldn't even be able to lift it. But, you know, it's temporary.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Temporary. Over and over and over again.

[PFT Commenter]

Over and over and over again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know, and, you know, I was, what, 22 years old? I wasn't thinking about it. I just wanted to go out and, you know, play football.

[Big Cat]

Did you keep that to yourself, or did, like. Did spags know?

[Justin Reed]

No, this was the Texas.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

The whole club staff knew.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Like I said, I wore a red.

[Big Cat]

I wore the quarterback.

[Justin Reed]

I wore a red penny the entire week of practice. Practice.

[PFT Commenter]

That kind of rocks.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, the entire. You know, I mean, I was still running and everything. But I. I didn't get. I didn't live with the team. I would be out there on the field, but I wouldn't touch anybody the whole year. And then, you know, you just show up Sunday and go play.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's great. I think that's a. That's a. Qualifies as grit. Yeah, we. We oftentimes talk about, like, we get kidney stones because we're old and fat, and it's excruciating. But I'd say the torn labrum for an entire NFL season and probably a little bit more pain. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna give you that one. I'm gonna hand you that one. Are you a nerd?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, I say so. I like to learn.

[PFT Commenter]

So why'd you go to Stanford? Over lsu.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, that's a. That's the classic thing. Because I'm a Louisiana boy through and through.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Justin Reed]

My whole family went to lsu. My dad was an All American track guy there. My brother was an All American there. Mom went there, sister went there. But, you know, when it came time for my time and I. I grew up on lsu. Heavy.

[Max Delente]

Heavy.

[Justin Reed]

Right, heavy. Like, I was going to Death Valley, like, every other weekend. And, you know, the expectation is if you play in Louisiana, you have a chance to go play at lsu, you go play there. But the situation just unfolded that my brother was playing for the 49ers at the time. My mom was travel nursing. Two weeks in Louisiana, two weeks in Oakland, California.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

So it ended up being like a little pod. A little pod out there. And then part of it, too, was I wanted to make a name for myself. You know, I was. At this point in my life, I was always Eric Reed's little brother. And, you know, I wanted to, you know, be called by my first name and make a name for myself. So Dwayne Aquina was over there, Coach Shaw's over there, was in love with those guys and, you know, pulled the trigger on it and haven't looked back.

[PFT Commenter]

And you. And you got. You. You studied. You got a degree in engineering. Like, that's. That's insane to be an engineer and a football player. Yeah, you're a nerd. But also, I wouldn't with you because you told me that.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, man, it's fun.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Justin Reed]

And, like, I kind of see. I kind of see football from engineering background in a way. Like, I see everything as puzzle pieces, and, you know, just the way I like knowing how the entire system fits together. I feel like I'm a better player whenever I know, okay, this guy's doing this responsibility. This guy's doing this responsibility. This guy's doing this responsibility. If we get a play that we didn't practice, then I know that, okay, he has to get that one. He has to get that one. That means I'm covering his back by going here. You know, that's kind of the way I see football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How did you have, like, how did you have enough time in the day when you're getting an engineering degree from Stanford and playing D1 football? What did you. How did you do that?

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah, man, you.

[Justin Reed]

You just squeeze every. Every second out every day. I don't really watch tv. Yeah, I never really watched TV or shows. Like, if I do find a good show, I'll probably binge it in a day or two. Like, I'll just watch the whole series in two days. But I'm not a casual TV watcher or whatever. I'm just always, like, you know, doing whatever's the next thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Are you a documentary guy?

[Justin Reed]

I'll buzz through a documentary.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like, when I hear you talk about things and I hear you say, like, I don't really watch tv, I just think, like, yeah, you know, I'd probably have all the same skills you have if I just didn't watch TV either.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd be in the league. Had.

[Big Cat]

Even the way that you're talking about, like, the injury that you had, I, I. You might be one of the only people that can describe the different bones and how they were in conflict and how it would sublex repeatedly that would also put themselves through having that injury happen to them over and over and over again.

[PFT Commenter]

That might.

[Big Cat]

You might be A1 of 1 When it comes to that.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I read that you're. You're a chess player, too.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, yeah. I actually, I started playing chess because I had a teammate. I don't remember when I learned the rules, but I had a teammate named Philip Gaines, and we used to call him Grandmaster Phil because he was always in his locker playing chess. And I want to relate to all my teammates. So I challenged him to a game one day, and he whooped me, Right? He smoked me. And then my competitive side came out to where I was like, no, Phil, you're not gonna do me like that, bro. So then I started, you know, watching YouTube videos and stuff. And, yeah, I got to a point now to where I won, you know, NFL Blitz champs the last two years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's your pretty. What's your rating? Do you have a.

[Justin Reed]

Do you have a 1500. Modest. A modest 1500.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that good?

[Justin Reed]

It's decent.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't know what the ratings are.

[Big Cat]

You score higher or lower than your.

[Justin Reed]

You're over a thousand. You're pretty decent.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Over a thousand. Pretty decent. If you start hitting like 1900, 2000, then you're like interim master. You start approaching grandmaster. Yeah. That type of stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's your goat in chess?

[Justin Reed]

My goat?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I got to be my coach, man. James Canty.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. No, that's our wrong answer.

[Big Cat]

Magnus Carlson.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Oh, Magnus Carlson.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we've got him on the show.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, Magnus too.

[PFT Commenter]

But he's the goat.

[Justin Reed]

Goat. He is. He is the goat.

[PFT Commenter]

And he's cocky about it.

[Justin Reed]

He is the goat. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he'll show up, you know, timer start. He'll show up like 10 minutes late or whatever and then still just go, yeah, everybody.

[Big Cat]

You don't like it, then beat him.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

As simple as that.

[Justin Reed]

Exactly. Well, you know, there was that documentary that just came out too, on the whole.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think?

[Big Cat]

Where do you stand on the ceramic anal beads?

[PFT Commenter]

That was.

[Big Cat]

That was mercy.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a hit piece on mag.

[Big Cat]

If, if an NFL player did that, Roger Goodell would suspend them for like 10 days.

[Justin Reed]

Hey, man, pretty much good luck figuring that out. You know what I mean? Two buzzes is cover two. Three buzzes is cover three.

[Big Cat]

That I think in. In one of our dumber episodes that we had last year, we were trying to think of ways that like Indiana football could be cheating. Cuz everyone was. Was suggesting that they were cheating. And I thought, like, what if a quarterback did have the ceramic beads and the offensive coordinator is up in the booth and he just buzzes when there's a guy coming. The blind side. Get rid of the ball immediately.

[Justin Reed]

That'll. Well, that'll catch your attention.

[Big Cat]

It could work.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So what is, what is the nerdiest thing that you do? Is it chess?

[Justin Reed]

The nerdiest thing?

[Big Cat]

I know that you're into photography.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. The chest. But I. I'll go down these rabbit holes of just like research and information. Like latest thing, just random. Like I started like getting interested in planes, so then I started watching the whole series hours on hours, you know what I mean? Like just, just the different mechanics of planes and how it works. Pig. Different. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's your favorite plane?

[Justin Reed]

You know what my favorite would be the. I was actually looking at a TBM980. But my favorite if we're going to probably be like M2.

[Big Cat]

The M2 is pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

You know the TBM.

[Big Cat]

I'm not familiar with the TBM 980. Yeah, I'm more of a. I get interested in military. Yeah, yeah, I'm a jet guy.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I like the F22 I think. But obviously the F15C is the goat 1040 lifetime. Never got shot down. Yeah, it's some bad, some bad press clippings out there. It's. It's bastard cousin, the F15EX had some bad incidents recently, but F15C, that is, that's the gold standard for most.

[Justin Reed]

See that? I saw a clip on online like a couple days ago. Like two. They're doing the Flighter show and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they went together.

[Justin Reed]

I look like everyone got their money's worth at that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was the E18G growler, the electronic warfare planes. And one dropped in on the other because it has a blind side underneath the cockpit so it doesn't see. It dropped in and then they got. It looked like they were mating. Yeah, like two horns kind of stuck together. It was actually. It was kind of hot. Yeah, it felt. Fell to the ground.

[PFT Commenter]

I took my pants off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, of course you just, you. You bounce from like interest to interest and it sounds like you, but you

[Justin Reed]

go dive deep into it. Like I love, I love asking every question. I love getting nitty gritty on the deep details.

[PFT Commenter]

What other rabbit holes have you gone

[Justin Reed]

down the photography, videography route? Like, I got injured last season and I had to miss a game. Like I would come in early, like 6, 7 o' clock a.m. but I finished my rehab by 12. But I wasn't. I had a knee thing, so I wasn't allowed to go outside when the guys practice. So when the guys were out there practicing, I had to stay inside and I just kind of found ways to fill my time. So I went and hung out with the staff upstairs and I had them teach me all about all the different cameras. Sony products versus Canon. And then, you know, started talking about the A7R, V and FX3 and different lenses and you know, then. Then I started getting educated on Adobe Suite and Lightroom versus Photoshop versus Premiere and you know, keyframing and all those different things. And that's.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

The best part about that was you. You said you missed a game. Yeah, that wasn't, that wasn't like a month that you're rehabbing. It was a game that was one week.

[Justin Reed]

And you're like, yeah, but I die deep, man. When that fire gets lit, bro, I just, I go I pour all of myself into it.

[Big Cat]

Okay, when's the last time you just, like, sat on your couch and just chilled, just, like, watched TV all day?

[Justin Reed]

Years ago. I mean, I watch, like, a series. Like, if it's like, you know, the playoffs, whatever, whatever. I watch a game or something like that. But, like, someone had to really tell me there's some series that came out that's really good or whatever. I heard something about, like, Nemesis lately or whatever. And usually I watch the first two episodes and if I don't like it and whatever, move on. If I do like it, I probably watch the whole thing in, like, two days, and then, you know, I just move on to the next.

[PFT Commenter]

Move on.

[Big Cat]

What about vacation? When you go on a vacation, do you just chill out?

[Justin Reed]

All of my vacations are work trips, so it's work trips that turn into vacations. So, like, we were talking about all the travel that I like. Each one of those things will be okay. I'm going there to do some type of work. But I might stay an extra day and play around a golf or go see somebody that I know in the area and, you know, that'll be. That's my version of fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, let me ask you a nerd question, then. Would you ever punt from the opponent's 34?

[Justin Reed]

Would I ever punt from on the 34 yard line?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I mean, the only play I could think of is, like, say there's. I don't know. This is like mad scientists, maybe. There's 10, 15 seconds on the clock.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's first quarter.

[Justin Reed]

First quarter, I was about to say, because I would take the ball and I would run back to my own end zone. Yeah, I just zigzagged my own end zone. Just kill the clock all. That's the only way.

[PFT Commenter]

So first quarter, though, would you punt from. Okay, so why the. Did David Shaw do it against Northwestern, 2015 when you're on the sideline?

[Justin Reed]

That's a great question.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. I'm sorry I had to bring this up, but anytime I find anyone who's, like, even 12 steps away from David Shaw, I'm like.

[Justin Reed]

I mean, the guy loved to punt.

[PFT Commenter]

He loved to punt.

[Justin Reed]

We had Jake Bailey as a kicker that year. Jake's in the league right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Maybe we need to ask Jake why Coach Shaw didn't have fake faith in them to go out and make that field goal.

[PFT Commenter]

He loved to punt. Did you ever say anything like, dude, can we stop punting all the time?

[Justin Reed]

That was above my pay grade.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys love to punt.

[Big Cat]

Big guy was having this conversation with somebody a couple months ago and he was like, no, I think it was. I think it was a bad punt. And he looked it up and when he said the 34 yard line, yeah, I. I gasped. Yeah, that's. That's a wild pun.

[PFT Commenter]

He punted from the 45 yard line. The series before in that game.

[Justin Reed]

Game, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was just. You guys were just moving it down a little bit, then punting, then. Then moving it down a little bit.

[Justin Reed]

We ended up losing that game, too. Yeah, I remember the running back, Justin. His last name. Slipped my mind.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't remember any players. I just remember the punts.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Drove me nuts.

[Big Cat]

That's Big Ten football.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, listen. I mean, David Shaw, good coach, but he. The guy just punted so much, he would just punt like. Like, you know, fourth.

[Justin Reed]

And I think that was a rose

[PFT Commenter]

boy year, though that might have been.

[Justin Reed]

It was that same year, though.

[PFT Commenter]

We ended up during the country 2015. Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So you punt to go to the Rose Bowl.

[Big Cat]

I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I guess it worked.

[Big Cat]

So were you. Were you also kicking on the Stanford team? Or was that just. Was that just a hobby? This is another hobby that you picked up.

[Justin Reed]

Soccer. Soccer is my first love.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

I tried too hard. But at that point, they're like, no, I mean, you had Jake, who is playing professionally right now. We had some other studs. Kyra Yucaprina was the 2015 guy. But, yeah, I tried to, but never had that chance. And then, like, I've just always kept up with it. Like, I'll go out to practice early and I'll go mess around with the specialist and just kick and stuff. But that ended up being good practice, you know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You ended up keeping me fresh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because you are the emergency kicker, right.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. I wear that badge with pride.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy how good you are at kick kicking, like as good as you are at. Sounds like actually everything else might be.

[Justin Reed]

It might be. You know, I mean, we might have added some years to my life. This new kickoff rule. The dynamic kickoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

So the longest that you've ever made was it. You made a 65 yarder?

[Justin Reed]

I made a 65 yarder in practice, yeah. In the game, the longest I made was like a 45 yarder.

[PFT Commenter]

But that one was good. Was that the one in 2022? I want to say, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

That was Chiefs training camp.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that, like, that one was good. From deep. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You can. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you. I mean, it Would be. Wouldn't it be a benefit if you could have your, like, defensive back be the kicker as well? Like, from a roster standpoint? Have you ever said that to.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, kickers are probably writhing right now, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I mean, listen, I'm not trying to take anyone else's job, but if you're that. Have you ever just said, hey, look, I can. I can kick.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Seriously. I mean, the kickoffs that I have done, I think I have, like a 50% tackle.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

It's a numbers problem.

[Justin Reed]

Half the kickoffs that I've done, I've made the tips. I'm just running down unblocked one man show. I'm starting safety, you know, I mean, I know how to tackle. I'm just going to run down scot free.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah. Damn.

[Big Cat]

This guy's better at kicking than me. Knows more about planes than me. I hate this guy.

[PFT Commenter]

So we were talking to Kellen Moore. How many game balls did you get last year?

[Justin Reed]

I don't know if I got a game ball last year.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He gives game balls to everyone.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, he does. But unfortunately, my best games, you know, we didn't. You don't get. You don't get game balls when you lose.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I also feel like, you know, that Atlanta game and everything. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He might be, as an offensive guy, he might be focused on those guys a little bit more.

[Justin Reed]

Nah, he shares it, man. He's like Oprah, man. He's giving him out.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, okay.

[Big Cat]

He said. I think, think one time he gave out eight. Was that the most that you've seen him give out? That's a lot.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a long time in the locker room.

[Big Cat]

The other places that you've been, what's the, like, NFL standard? Like, the normal amount of game balls.

[Justin Reed]

Chiefs give out three.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Maximum one offense, one defense, one special teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

That's it. It's never really more. It has to be like, you know, a guy and a guy made a record or something. It has to be really special. When I was with Houston, Bill O' Brien area era, it was about 4ish, 5ish, maybe. Yeah. So, like, if it was. If it was, you know, worthy of it, he'll give them out. But it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Candy.

[Travis Etienne]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Playing for the Chiefs winning two Super Bowls, what was it like playing for Spags? Because it does feel like he is one of the. The underrated parts of the Chiefs, you know, dynasty that they've had where it felt like every time you guys were in a big moment, he would have the answer to whatever made a whole

[Justin Reed]

T shirt about him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You were the one who made.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, yeah, I designed. I created that and made that. So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, man, He.

[Big Cat]

He, he.

[Justin Reed]

He was a fun guy to play for. And his big thing was he loved. He loved doing things with the secondary, which made it really fun on my part. And all the ways that we, you know, spun around and guys switching positions and we just tried to, you know, wreck some havoc. And then, you know, half of the plays, too, was basically just to let Chris Jones get a one on one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know, so that. That usually works. Same thing we do with Chase Young here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Did. Did it feel, though, like going into games that you guys had a superpower where it's like we just, like, he. We know he's gonna put us in a spot that. Yeah, the other team's not gonna.

[Justin Reed]

Well, one of the things. One of the things we did too is we would. We would install special plays for teams we played, but we would not call it till the fourth quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah.

[Justin Reed]

You know what I mean? So they're playing against us this whole time. You know, we're throwing stuff at them, and then when it is that critical moment, the play that we installed just for them that they haven't seen all game, it's the first time they're seeing it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's smart.

[Justin Reed]

We throw it at them in a. In a high stress situation and, you know, nine out of ten times they crumple.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the high leverage situation.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We heard this, this last season a lot about Vic Fangio in Philly and the meatballs that he would pass out as, like, his game balls.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did spags have any sort of, like, secret Italian recipe that he would share?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, he did. He did. We had what was called a cranberry award.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

That was basically whoever had the nastiest hit of the game. And it can be taken on a block. It could be a hit on the ball carry, it could be whatever. But, you know, whatever. Whatever was the biggest cram. His wife Maria made this killer bowl of pasta. And guys. Yeah, guys will fight over one to win this. This. It was a big honor to win this bowl of pasta from Maria. So did you.

[PFT Commenter]

How many times did you win it?

[Justin Reed]

I wanted a good bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, nice.

[Justin Reed]

I wanted a good bit. I wanted at least six, seven times.

[Big Cat]

Do you remember. Do you remember the hit that. That won you your first one?

[Justin Reed]

You know what? No, I remember some of them. One of them was like that the first time we played the Eagles in the Super bowl and it was like the fifth play of the game when I hit Devonta Smith on the sideline. That had one. Me one. I think I hit.

[Big Cat]

You had super bowl cram.

[Justin Reed]

One of it was Jalen Waddle when we played in. In Germany, that I caught him on a bang route. We were in quarters and I was sitting on it, and I was just waiting on that route to come the whole time because they just loved running bang routes. They'd run outside zone and they run a bang route off of it. They just did that over and over and over again. So we're just waiting on it. We just did double edge pressure and waited on the bang eights. And it was like the fourth play of the game. Smashed it, and they didn't run it the rest of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

That's gotta feel good.

[Big Cat]

You beat the play at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Speaking of Jalen Waddle, that, that, that playoff game against the Dolphins, how quickly were you. Like, they're too cold.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know, they came out with their shirts off and everything. And like, that's always a town. I was like. I was like, hey, guys, you guys want to win pregame? You got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I mean, you guys can win that. I. I had on, like, I went to the hunting store and I bought thermal layers from, like, hunters, and I was putting that on under my jersey.

[Big Cat]

Cold. Did you see their shirts off?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it just felt like it was one of those sometimes just we're. We're stupid how we watch football, but, like, we really did. Like, going into that game, we're like, the Dolphins are just going to be too cold. Like, it just. That's. That's the entire handicapping of this game is, yeah, the Dolphins are gonna be too cold. And it turned out. Yeah, it turned out to be exactly true.

[Big Cat]

When McDaniel walked out there and he had, like, six coats on and like, a scarf fogged up glasses. Yeah. It was like, this guy. This man is too cold to think, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then Andy Reid was, like, wearing shorts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, yeah, I got this. That was. Yeah, that was easy.

[Justin Reed]

But wait, that game ended up being like, like when. Wind chill of, like, negative 20.

[PFT Commenter]

It was crazy.

[Big Cat]

Like, deadly. Yeah. In the Super Bowl. So you want to. You won the bang Award. Is that what it's called?

[Justin Reed]

Cram.

[Big Cat]

Cram award. The Cram award in the super bowl, which is, I imagine, the. The best dish of pasta that you've ever eaten. That was the. The Sodfather game.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Things were a little bit slippery. So was it. Was that it practiced in, like, install on Tuesday. That week where he came in, he was like, I'm going to make the field slippery in this spot. That spot. That spot he had.

[Justin Reed]

He kind of made it the joke to where he had, like, seven stud cleats. And it'd be like, you know, you do installs, you have a slide, and you go through the slides. Like, every third or fourth slide, he will flash a picture of the seven stud cleats. So we're talking about, you know, oh, we're going to put in this play, whatever. Next slide. Oh, seven studs. How did that get in there?

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean?

[Travis Etienne]

Boom.

[Justin Reed]

Another play. Watch two plays, three plays. Boom. Seven stud cleats, you know, so you really, really drilled it in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Get ready.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You guys had better footwork than the Eagles that game.

[Memes]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was. I mean, that was a hell of a Super Bowl. Was it? What was the moment in that game? Because that was you. You guys were getting kind of torched for a little bit there once.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Jalen hurts, like, he was. He was, like, balling out. Was there a moment that you're like, all right, we figured this out a little bit. Like, we've. We've got this.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Probably when we finally got a lead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know, but I mean, that. That's when they're doing the whole, you know, whatever they call it, brotherly shove, tush push, whatever. But they were just killing us with that play as they were doing everybody else for that whole dynasty. But, yeah, I mean, we. We felt like we had a good calling card. If we can get them in longer than third and five, then we felt pretty good at it. But if we hadn't, like, third and two, then they would just run that play twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I mean, they would just get it and they just keep on rolling. Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And going into the. The rematch with the Eagles, I. I think I saw you say, like, we just weren't. We weren't ready for. Or not. Not ready, but, like, it just felt.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, that D line just ate. Yeah, their D line went crazy. We had some injuries on our old line, too. It's where we had guys playing in different positions that they normally do. And, I mean, they. They took advantage of it. They jumped on the game so quickly that before you looked up and the game was already out of hand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you constantly in conflict as a defensive player playing with Patrick Mahomes, where you're like, he just keeps getting flags for going, like, not going out of bounds and stuff like that. But you're also, as a defensive player, you're like, hey, this is.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. I mean, no, like, like, but you think about the two years prior, right? So this is us trying to go for the three peat at that point. But the first year, I mean, we won because Patrick was going crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know, I mean, that was. The offense had dominated, and the refs. Yeah, you can call it what you want. I still got the ring. And then the next year, though, next year was really about the defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You know what I mean? And in that second year, Patrick actually humbled himself, and instead of trying to be Superman, like, they leaned on us on the defensive side of the ball and punted a little bit more, you know, and it was like, hey, we'll let our defense, you know, come back, put us in good position, and we'll just go finish the game there, you know, So, I mean.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's done it all in every single one.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So there.

[Justin Reed]

There was never a conflict about it. And Patrick is a. Is a great teammate, too, so, you know, it's hard to get mad at him for.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Almost anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it. Was there ever a moment where you're like, hey, maybe people are right, and the refs are just giving us all the calls.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. You know, you watch. You watch another game, and then everyone's saying, oh, they finally get what they deserve. You know, they finally get what they deserve. And then the next week, if things go our way. Oh, the refs are cheating. Yeah, he does.

[Big Cat]

I saw a picture of Patrick Mahomes kissing a ref.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I did, too. Yeah, Andy Reid, too. Andy Reid was doing the Lambo leap and into the ref's arms.

[Big Cat]

And then I saw another one where one of the refs is holding up Travis Kelce's uniform after they get. They did a jersey swap after the game.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it was a ref. And he's like, oh, cool. I'm a big Chiefs fan, so how

[PFT Commenter]

can you explain that?

[Justin Reed]

I'm a plead the. Plead the fifth on AI. You know, AI is crazy these days.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

From a fan's perspective, we always make this argument because there's like, you know, people talk about robot umps and. And the refs becoming just all digital. It's like, you can't do that because then from a fan's point of view, what are we going to do when our teams lose?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We have to admit that our team's worse.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's terrible. We need to be able to say it was the ref's Fault.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. I mean, you ever watch wwe?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

There's always something scandalous that happens that, you know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Hey, my guy didn't really lose.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Right.

[Justin Reed]

This guy hit him with a chair, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

The referee wasn't paying attention. Then somebody just. Just came in and, you know, RKO'd. Somebody then ran off and, you know, so.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Deniability. Plausible deniability.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, exactly.

[Travis Etienne]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So. So what are you. What are you getting into this offseason? Do you have anything, like, any new hobbies planned? Any new places you're gonna go? Like, I know you mentioned you're going to go on, like, trips for the foundation, but, like, any places that you've already circled, like, oh, I get to go here. Get to do that? Like, what do you have? What do you have?

[Justin Reed]

Sorted out a couple of them. Well, I have a good relationship with pga, so I do some PGA stuff. I got to go commentate on the Zurich when it was down here and then. And I'm going to do some promotional content for him coming up.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

What's your name?

[Justin Reed]

Like, Medina. And then Coach Staley's. Coach Staley has a twin brother, by the way. I don't know if everyone knew that. Twin brother.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. I'm very interested.

[Justin Reed]

Who lives in. In or near Pittsburgh, and he has a plug at Oakmont. So at some point, I'm actually going to a wedding that's out at Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts. And I was like, okay, why? I'm up there there. I already talked to Coach Staley about it. We're gonna go bounce over and go see if we can swing a few at Oakmont. And, oh, I'm getting. I do commercial real estate, too, so I gave my real estate license in Florida because that's where I do a lot of projects at. And so at some point, I'm just going to go to Tampa and. Already did all the online training or whatever. Just need to get the. The final exam done in person.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that sounds like a. Yeah. Loaded off scene. So how's your golf game?

[PFT Commenter]

Game?

[Justin Reed]

I'm pretty decent. You know, on a good day.

[PFT Commenter]

This is gonna be so annoying when you say pretty decent. All right.

[Big Cat]

What's your handicap?

[Justin Reed]

Pretty decent.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a four.

[Travis Etienne]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was annoying.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

You're awesome.

[Big Cat]

You're awesome. What's the lowest round you've ever shot?

[Justin Reed]

Lowest round ever shot was a 74.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Was that an easy course? Like, par three course?

[Justin Reed]

No, I actually did that. I Did that at tpc, Louisiana.

[Travis Etienne]

Oh, my God.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, I did it from the tips.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I shot a 72 at Shinnecock, so.

[Justin Reed]

Well, that's wildly impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Better than you.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, that is.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't actually. No, I. I literally just. I realized.

[Justin Reed]

Oh, did you play all 18 holes or was this, like.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I realized after playing golf and playing really shitty golf for my entire life, you can actually just, like, give yourself whatever score you want.

[Justin Reed]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty cool.

[Justin Reed]

The eraser is the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Not even a race. I just literally just wrote down what I wanted, and I wanted a 72 that day, and I got it.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. My girlfriend plays by those same rules.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's awesome though. Golf is. People are always like, like, oh, golf's so frustrating. Golf's so hard. No, it's not.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just fill out what you want.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Hey, one of two things. Either play better or drink more.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

I always think that the. The best level to be at in golf is, like, around 90, like, shooting around 90.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. That's when golf is still fun. Before you get mad at yourself for all the mistakes.

[Big Cat]

Exactly. At that point, if you hit a good shot, it's a miracle. It's like the most special thing that's ever happened to you. And, like, the world is perfect. And then once you get better, then

[Justin Reed]

you start to expect every shot. Yeah, you start expecting it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you just get down on yourself after bad shots.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're.

[Big Cat]

You're four handicap right now, and I'm assuming. Wait, when did you pick up golf?

[Justin Reed]

I'm a Covid golfer.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, pretty recent.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that was a question.

[PFT Commenter]

So you have a really awesome coaching.

[Justin Reed]

I see coaching, though. You know what I mean? I love having, like. I love information. I have a sim in my house. When I got my house here, I actually took a tape measure in a club and I measured the room because I wasn't going to get it if I couldn't put a simulator inside of it.

[Big Cat]

Smart.

[Justin Reed]

And then. Yeah, I just have. I have some. Some great coaches, man. Like, Michael Watson is one of my. I actually texted him this morning. I sent him some swing videos, but he is son of Tom Watson.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

You know what I mean? So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. They live in Kansas, and he's one of my swing coaches, as well as some other guys, and I just shoot him clips and they give me feedback,

[PFT Commenter]

and that's pretty nice.

[Big Cat]

What are you working on now? What's the. What's the next evolution of this thing?

[Justin Reed]

Working on Right now, I actually posted a video yesterday on my Instagram about it. I'm trying to work on ground force, having my back to target a little bit longer, and then ground force with my lead leg to really square the club and get my hips open.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're going to be awesome. You're going to be like a. You're going to be a plus handicap.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's going to be.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What was the last time you picked something up, something new up, and you were terrible at it, and you're like, screw this.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, most of the time I start off shitty, but you know what I mean? I. I am motivated by improvement, though. Like, I don't mind starting off shitty because it's like, hey, I get a little bit better. Like, the camera. I was horrible at it, knowing I didn't know anything about what I was doing. Everything was super grainy and pixelated and fuzzy, and then, you know, you just keep doing it over and over, and I get motivated by getting better, and that fuels me to keep wanting to get better. And then.

[Big Cat]

Then three days later, I. I'm a great photographer.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, something like that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I read. And maybe this is wrong, but. But your mom was a really good football player.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, my mom was a linebacker. Yeah. And tackle football. Full pads, Baton Rouge wildcats. That's like 2003, 2005.

[Big Cat]

Ish.

[Justin Reed]

Something around there. I was, like, maybe five years old.

[PFT Commenter]

That's so cool.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So she. She was a linebacker and also tight end, maybe.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I read tight end, too, probably.

[Justin Reed]

I'm sure they probably played both ways.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. My mom grew up with six brothers.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, it was just. She was the only girl. Grew up in Opelousis, just out of Lake Charles, so. Grew up in the country, man. And they just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's so. That's so cool. So would she like the driving force in your love for football, bro?

[Justin Reed]

Like, when I was playing sports and everything, my parents let us all choose whatever sport we wanted to play. They didn't, like, push us one way or another. It's whatever we gravitated towards. But, yeah, it'd always be like, hey, are you hurt or are you injured? You know what I mean? Because, you know, if you're. If you're injured, you better stop complaining, get back out there. If you're hurt, you know, then that's different. We'll handle it. And then she was also in the medical field, too, so she really, like, knew when something was actually wrong or not. And, yeah, like, my mom would be the first Ones. The first voice I can hear just like cutting through a crowd, bro.

[Big Cat]

Like, get up.

[Justin Reed]

You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Have you watched tape of her?

[Justin Reed]

I haven't. Yeah, I want to be some tape out there.

[Big Cat]

I want to see that. Like, has she told you about some of her best games that she said that?

[Justin Reed]

No, but I'm sure she would love to tell everyone about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, so did you go to her games when you were a kid?

[Justin Reed]

I was five.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

I don't. I don't. I'm sure. I'm. I actually know that we were there and we were just like playing off to the side, like. Like kids do like a little whatever.

[Travis Etienne]

Football.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, something off to the side.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's awesome. Just going to mom's football game. Yeah, that's really cool.

[Big Cat]

We want to get Zach up here. We got. We got our new guy, Zach. He's asking questions. Zach is a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan, so just a heads up, he tried to extract some intel from coach Moore earlier.

[Justin Reed]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But he's probably not going to ask you any secrets.

[Zach]

No secrets today. Justin, great to meet you. Thank you for your time today. I do appreciate it. Hearing that you do enjoy playing a decent amount of golf. I saw you did compete in the American Century Championship.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Did you participate in the karaoke night? And if so, did you have like, was there already a go to song you knew right away, like, this is the one, or was it more of like a game time decision?

[Justin Reed]

Game time decision? 100%.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

100%. A game time decision. I did. I did a Shaboozi song.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, the tipsy crowd favorite.

[Zach]

That's a strong choice. Great choice.

[Justin Reed]

You know what I mean? You got to play to the crowd, you know, entertainer at the day.

[Hank Lockwood]

Awesome.

[Zach]

Thank you for your time, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

Appreciate it. So you got a follow up question?

[Zach]

A follow up question. If I were to have a follow up question, I was curious, would you run that same song back or would you kind of get into a new one?

[Justin Reed]

No, I think you got to keep the creativity. Everybody wants to see something that's already all over the Internet. You know, you got to do something new.

[Zach]

Also, you might be being a little bit too coy with the chess score. That's an insane rating on chess.com.

[PFT Commenter]

oh, yeah. You're a beast.

[Travis Etienne]

Appreciate that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well done. Congratulations on the board.

[Zach]

That's crazy.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. I didn't realize that you play chess.

[Zach]

I'm very bad, but I.

[Justin Reed]

But hearing the ranking and everything.

[Zach]

Yes, sir.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your Rating?

[Justin Reed]

Oh, I'm.

[Zach]

I'm like a 405.

[Justin Reed]

Oh, you're better than 405?

[Big Cat]

Is that good?

[Zach]

No, no, it's bad.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, that's not good at all. That's, like, better than that.

[Zach]

May have just downloaded the app, and you can get there in a couple days. I've had the app multiple.

[Big Cat]

Multiple years, so.

[Max Delente]

Damn.

[Zach]

Just isn't for everybody.

[Big Cat]

Chest is for everybody. Just. Yeah, you gotta just always be improving a little bit.

[Justin Reed]

I.

[Zach]

They just get. There's so many new strategies. PFT guys just come out. It's like, oh, you gotta figure out how to block this, how to. How to get into this one opening first.

[Justin Reed]

Don't try 100 different openings.

[Big Cat]

What's your opening? You want to play E4.

[Justin Reed]

If you play E4. Am I E4?

[Big Cat]

I'm playing E4.

[Justin Reed]

I'm playing the Sicilian defense.

[Big Cat]

I'm dead.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, I'm playing either Sicilian. Salmonov. I'm playing the bishop.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds delicious.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

And otherwise, I like playing. I like playing. If you did Queen's Pawn D5, then I would play king's Indian defense. Whichever one you play, I always do the same thing. Always the same thing over and over

[Big Cat]

just to frustrate me.

[Justin Reed]

No, just because that's what I know how to play against. You do D5, I'm playing the King's Indian. You do E5, I'm playing a Sicilian. It's automatic. I don't even think about my first, like, eight moves. Like, it's all memorized.

[Big Cat]

But you can recognize all the openings that your opponent's doing against you.

[Justin Reed]

You know, all of them, but the. The normal ones. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Play me a rock, paper, scissors, shoot one time.

[Justin Reed]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Ready?

[Justin Reed]

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. All right. Look at. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm the man. Hell, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's a good opening.

[PFT Commenter]

Felt good there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, felt real good. Who's.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's the hardest guy to tackle in the NFL that you've had to deal with?

[Justin Reed]

See Nick Chubb when he was with Cleveland. Like. Like, really. The running backs that have really wide hips are all extremely hard to tackle. You know, I mean, running backs with small, narrow hips, easy to tackle.

[PFT Commenter]

Why is it just being able to get your arms around.

[Justin Reed]

You can't get your arms around them?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

It's just hard to hold on, you know, like. And then if you. You bounce a little bit off. Words. Like you're slipping off. Like, guys with narrow hips, you can just kind of wrap them up and fall down. But all those guys. So Cream Hunt was on my team when I played for Kansas City, but I just saw guys slipping off of him left and right. All the, the running backs with thick waist, always the hardest guys to tackle.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Who's the easiest guy to tackle?

[Justin Reed]

Who's the easiest guy? Everyone else.

[Big Cat]

What's the, the hardest hit that you've ever had?

[Justin Reed]

That I have ever had. So Eric Ebron is actually a buddy of mine. We golfed like, like three or four weeks ago, but when he was playing for the Indianapolis Colts and we're playing them in the playoff game and I think this was my rookie season and then come over the top and Andrew threw him a ball and I hit him in the end zone. I got the ball out, but in the process I jacked my own self up. They had like a cracked rib from it or whatever. I was done for the game. Ended up having to. I got sent out in the ambulance. Oh, hospital. I was fine, but I was like. I had a cracked rib though.

[PFT Commenter]

This hurt? Yeah, yeah.

[Justin Reed]

So that one and then let's see, I hit Jarvis Landry pretty good on the sideline with Baker Mayfield, threw him a ball. We're in cover two. I got a nasty picture of that one too. Of course, the Devonta Smith one. The Jalen Waddle, I think Jalen Waddle. The Jalen Waddle one. Yeah, man. But I like being an old school safety, man. I like bringing in some of that, you know, hey, this is psychological warfare. You know, at the same time I want guys to expect that, hey, don't throw me into a hospital ball because this guy is going to like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Tenacity. What's your favorite interception?

[Justin Reed]

That probably one of the two pick six ones. So that Atlanta one was fun, but I really like my rookie year one that was 101 yards garden a tight end playing Alex Smith. He runs the out route. I think it's supposed to be a seven stop, but I guess Alex thought he's going to keep running the seven. Threw it right to me and I was just high stepping along the sideline.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you tired after that, bro?

[Justin Reed]

What? Yeah. You're so tired.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't understand. I feel like you guys shouldn't be tired after that.

[Justin Reed]

Really. You know what's really tiring is a celebration though. Like the run is fine, but the celebration is what really gets you though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like listen, I'm not in great shape, but I'll say it right now when I'm on my couch and I see like a hundred yard touchdown and then the guy just gassed I'm like, he kind of like, he probably should be in better shape. Like, I don't know. You're a pro athlete. Like, you should be able to run 100 yards. Yeah, I'd be gassed. You shouldn't be.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's. Yeah, but it's. No, I'm gonna end up on that gas tank, bro. Yeah, you do it. You celebrate with the guys everyone wants to. You know what I mean? Trying to give energy to everybody.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see the celebration because you gotta. Yeah, there's a lot of high fives, a lot of.

[Justin Reed]

A lot of jumping.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And now I'm thinking about getting like, I need the gas tank for when we high five in our, like, gambling cave where we watch you guys games. So.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, okay.

[Big Cat]

We actually did. We did that for a little bit. We bought the, the canned oxygen for when we watched you guys play football.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like this is an exhausting, exhausting game to watch.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll stand up too fast and I'll get a little starry eyed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Does that ever happen to you? Like you're getting off the bench and you, you jump up and you're like, well, I need to sit down again.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. Like that light hit it. Yeah, yeah. Don't mess up like vertigo or something.

[Big Cat]

Careful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The bends.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. You surface too quickly.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And now you're hearing this. Actually, people talk about the altitude in Denver. They never talk about the altitude in New Orleans. Like, you guys playing some thick ass air down here. You get all the oxygen. You're like saturated with oxygen down here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

All the, all the indoor stadiums, though, if you're playing indoors, always dry. You're playing an indoor stadium, it's always going to feel dry. It's going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

Dehydrated pretty quickly.

[Big Cat]

Do you love Tyler Shock as much as we love him?

[Justin Reed]

Absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

Cool.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, he's got that. He's a charismatic guy, man. He's got that it factor. He talks a lot of, you know, but I love him for it and. Yeah, good dude. Everyone in the locker room gets along with them. Throws. Throws a bullet. You know what I mean? You can just see the velocity with the ball comes off of his hands. It's fun to play with.

[Big Cat]

Is it more catchable for you too? Because we always say, throws the most catchable ball in the NFL for a receiver.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like as a defender is like, damn, this ball. So I just stick my hand up there and I get an interception against

[Justin Reed]

we're going to find that out shortly when we start getting in the training camp. Yeah, you know, when he came in. It isn't a fair swing to talk about him. Training camp is rookie year and everything else. You know what I mean? I never judge a guy on their first year because you don't really know what you got. You know, guys is trying to figure out their way. But yeah, we're going to, we're going to try and get after him here in training camp and see what he's got.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Travis Etienne]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Justin, it has been awesome. I got one last question for you. Roback question. R H O-B A C K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase purchase Q, zips, polos, hoodies, jogger shorts. Roback.com promo code take. You ran a 44 at the combine.

[Justin Reed]

438.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know, that's so fast. Are you. Can you still. What would you be able to run if you ran right now?

[Justin Reed]

If I ran now, I'm probably like four, four, three. Four, four, three.

[Big Cat]

You're faster. Oh, no, you were four, three, eight before.

[Justin Reed]

I was four, three, eight before, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Justin Reed]

I was four, three.

[PFT Commenter]

And you were out of breath from running 100 yards. That's crazy, crazy fast.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah. There was only one guy, Troy Apkey.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

He was the only safety that ran faster than me in my class. And I remember like, he was like, just like the white knight, bro. He was rolling. It was like, where did this dude come from? Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But I mean, look, you two time super bowl champion. Do you ever put on your rings?

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, on special events. Special events or occasions. Places where I think people would like to see them. See, I would wear casually though. Not really.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd wear them every day. Me.

[Justin Reed]

You, you'd get annoyed with them though, bro.

[Big Cat]

Not me.

[Justin Reed]

Like, honestly, like, it's kind of a lot to deal with. They're clanking around everywhere.

[Big Cat]

No, that's how much winning super bowl means to a guy like me.

[Travis Etienne]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I would never take them off.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You take your Super Bowls for granted.

[Big Cat]

But we wouldn't do that. We actually deserve it more than you.

[Travis Etienne]

Okay.

[Justin Reed]

Because we care more. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I would just go. I would be ordering a drink, like getting a coffee.

[Justin Reed]

The only one that doesn't deserve it is that, you know, know the Tampa gate. The Tampa Bay fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man, that's true. Well, also 405. Chess. I. I'm. I gotta look this up. I gotta look. See how bad that is. I'm Gonna download.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna download the chess app, and we'll get after it.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll see. Yeah, we got you.

[Justin Reed]

Yeah, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Justin, thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. So much.

[Justin Reed]

Appreciate you guys.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Good show, boys. Anyone want to guess row two for the Knicks first finals game. Price for two tickets, I think it's for. Let's see.

[Big Cat]

I'm guess. 10,000, 71,000. What?

[Max Delente]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

I like.

[Hank Lockwood]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

105,000. Shut.

[Justin Reed]

The holy.

[Memes]

Cheapest ticket. 3,500.

[PFT Commenter]

3,500.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm looking like row three. $60,000. Holy.

[Big Cat]

That's nuts.

[Max Delente]

That's why they gotta travel.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why they gotta travel. That's crazy. That is crazy. Okay, good shows, by reminder, we have a show. Our next show will be Friday. Friday.

[Big Cat]

What do you think's gonna happen between now and Friday? That's a lot of show. That's a lot of days during a week to go without.

[PFT Commenter]

No more Easter Conference final. Yeah, Wemby. Maybe we're gonna have hockey guests on Friday. Very special hockey guests. Very special. Excited about that.

[Big Cat]

Maybe LeBron to the Wizards before Friday.

[PFT Commenter]

LeBron to the Wizards.

[Big Cat]

Crazy story. Yeah, Crazy story and reporting.

[Max Delente]

Is that even possible?

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I'd like to say, for the record, I don't want LeBron on the Wizards. LeBron.

[Max Delente]

Yes, you do.

[Big Cat]

Keep your. No, I. I'm rejecting LeBron James. Right.

[Max Delente]

You're not allowed to do the tweet where, I can't believe this is my life.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Max Delente]

When you, quote, tweet it and then be like, oh, LeBron.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Justin Reed]

I.

[Big Cat]

You know what? That's more about the fact that there's now articles coming out about LeBron possibly joining the Wizards. The fact that we're talking about the Wizards.

[Max Delente]

You're talking about the Wizards.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[PFT Commenter]

It was all trying to find the

[Big Cat]

guy who did this meme, sent that to us.

[Memes]

Well, we're the number one Wizards podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

We are. We are. And also, also, it's funny because BFD was like, damn, it's gonna be crazy when LeBron wins the title with the Wizards. Went from eight seed to title. Haven't even played a game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, with. With LeBron.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, I'm saying it would be a tough day for the Jordan. The Jordan fans outside.

[PFT Commenter]

He went that fast.

[Big Cat]

It was like, if LeBron became a wizard, then wins a championship with the Wizards. Which Michael. Michael Jordan got fired by the Wizards.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know how.

[Big Cat]

How down you got to be to get fired by the Washington Wizards.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, LeBron's got any. He can go anywhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but again, for the record, I do not want LeBron. You. You stay away from my. My young core. Get out. Get. Get your ass off. My young.

[PFT Commenter]

Minus Anthony Davis.

[Big Cat]

He's part of the young core.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. That was the minus. The.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's part of the encore, physically, in terms of game minutes played.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually think he's got a. Like, a really old core. Yeah. Doesn't he always get abdominal injury?

[Big Cat]

He's had some. He's had some sports hernias.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, good show, boys. Show Friday.

[Big Cat]

Numbers 11, 16, 5, 56, 14.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the last time the Knicks won a title? Memes. What year?

[Big Cat]

88.

[PFT Commenter]

69, 72.

[Big Cat]

3.

[PFT Commenter]

Knicks title. Find it for me. Find it for me. 73. All right, I'll go 73. Oh, good, they got a robot on. 38. Anyone got 38? 38.

[Max Delente]

38. 38.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, one more.

[Memes]

The Knicks win by 38.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they?

[Memes]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

They did not. Wait, what did they win by? What are the next.

[Max Delente]

37? Oh, 37.

[PFT Commenter]

Very close. Memes. What an ask.

[Memes]

Shout out to Mavericks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Nice work. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

36. Whoa. 36.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday to Jack Kevorkian. Dr. Kevorkian and Michael Parsons. And a Wednesday. Happy birthday to Harambe.

[Hank Lockwood]

Those are big birthdays for the show.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday, Harambe. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Patrick Ricard, Frank Thomas.

[Hank Lockwood]

You're really scraping really good. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday.

[Memes]

Nobody else.

[Justin Reed]

Again.

[Big Cat]

If I.

[PFT Commenter]

If I. Kavorkian.

[Big Cat]

If I don't wish Kavorkin happy birthday, you be like, oh, you forget somebody. If you. You forget Dr. Death.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you forget someone?

[Big Cat]

I'm not done yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday to Frank Thomas. Happy birthday to Patrick Picard. Vonte Davis, Daniel Jones.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, when are these birthdays?

[Big Cat]

That was Wednesday.

[PFT Commenter]

Because this is Wednesdays.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're not gonna have a show until Friday, so then on Thursday, also, shout out Craig. Kimberly. Happy birthday to Kirk Gibson. Happy birthday to Jerry west. Rip.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday to Percy Harvin. Okay. As well.

[Memes]

All right. Good list.

[Big Cat]

Did I miss anybody?

[Travis Etienne]

Great list.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You miss anyone. Great list for this show. You didn't miss anyone. Harambe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Wednesday. Wednesday. Harambe.

[Max Delente]

Great list.

[Big Cat]

Our sweet prince.

[PFT Commenter]

You're the birthday guy.

[Big Cat]

Wait, was.

[PFT Commenter]

Was he.

[Big Cat]

Did he get murdered on the same day that he got killed on his birthday?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Travis Etienne]

I don't know.

[Justin Reed]

Stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, stuff.

[Big Cat]

Stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

You're the birthday guy.

[Max Delente]

Birthday guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Birthday guy. What I miss Max. Happy birthday today.

[Max Delente]

Thank you.

[Travis Etienne]

That was very kind of you.

[Max Delente]

Thank you for wishing me Happy birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

31st birthday. Huge day today as we're sitting here. Is it really today? It's his birthday.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday, Max.

[Max Delente]

Also, I've been looking forward to this day for the past month just because I knew that we were going to be recording. I. Oh, I texted every single person here separately, being like, do not tell PFT it's my birthday.

[Big Cat]

That's up.

[PFT Commenter]

That's up.

[Big Cat]

Intentionally not telling me as up as

[PFT Commenter]

you not following your Instagram. Oh, that was the other thing that I heard. I don't know why that came up.

[Big Cat]

I think I probably follow like 60 people on Instagram.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it. So it was like, yeah, PFT forgot Max's birthday. And then. And then someone was like, he doesn't follow Shane on Instagram.

[Max Delente]

But you. You miss.

[Big Cat]

You misheard that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, why?

[Hank Lockwood]

I was talking about his girlfriend because his girlfriend posted on her, like, happy birthday to him. So I was like.

[Max Delente]

We were trying to cover all of our tracks on how PFT could have found it.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's. That's some bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

That's some bullshit. It's not even listed on your Twitter.

[PFT Commenter]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

Did you delete that?

[Max Delente]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, pft. That's his.

[Big Cat]

Basically, Max hid his. His birthday from me and now is upset that you're the birthday.

[Max Delente]

You're the birthday guy.

[PFT Commenter]

You claimed you're the birthday guy.

[Max Delente]

You also said that you had a list of. Of all the employees. Birthdays.

[Big Cat]

That's the. Yeah, the producers. I don't think that.

[PFT Commenter]

What? He is a producer.

[Big Cat]

I don't think you were on this list, though. I'll check.

[PFT Commenter]

But it. It is tough when you're the birthday guy.

[Big Cat]

It's very tough. I'm trying to be. The whole point of this exercise was to try to become better about wishing people happy birthdays. I don't think I've gotten any better, Jack Kevorkian. Wait, we don't appreciate the medical professionals anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

I appreciate my guy Max.

[Justin Reed]

Thank you.

[Max Delente]

Thank you, big cat. I appreciate that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, Real.

[Max Delente]

That's a birthday guy right there.

[Big Cat]

See, look. No, no Max.

[PFT Commenter]

How could this possibly be?

[Big Cat]

There's no Max on the bar school.

[PFT Commenter]

Let me check a look.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no Max on there.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man. Yeah. This list has failed you like a bunch, don't you? Maybe we need a new list.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's. I think it's missing a lot of people.

[Max Delente]

Memes was on. Memes was on top of it. He was go. He was going to call you out on the last show if you didn't do it.

[Big Cat]

I looked up Max Delente birthday, and it says, Max Delente celebrates his birthday on January 31, a day that he has publicly shared and celebrated with peers like pft. Commentary.

[Max Delente]

Sir.

[Memes]

His name is Christopher.

[PFT Commenter]

His name is Chris.

[Big Cat]

I'm aware.

[PFT Commenter]

I was looking for September 18th there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man. This list is all over the place.

[Big Cat]

I know. I didn't make it.

[Memes]

I think he should retire.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, it's Greer's listed under here.

[Big Cat]

It says.

[PFT Commenter]

It says email address, what is your name? And it says Greer. And then what is your name? JJ9. McCarthy. That's what he put in his name.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Hurricanes up 2 1.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Overtime goal.

[Big Cat]

That's got to be a quiet barn, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

The Hurricanes. I feel like there was a moment there where the Hurricanes were facing like the. Is it the same old. Yeah. And no commanding 21 lead. Back to back overtime winners. Wow. Good for them.

[Justin Reed]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of wanted a Vegas of all the teams and franchises to take the cup from Canada. Vegas beating Montreal would have been sweet.

[Big Cat]

That would be fair.

[PFT Commenter]

It would have been very funny to be like this expansion team having two cups.

[Big Cat]

They have a medieval times show before their games.

[PFT Commenter]

We're in the desert.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. A Southern state at one of the more Southern teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. By far. All right. Happy birthday, Max. You deserve it. You're the best. We love you.

[Max Delente]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Hank Lockwood]

Birthday, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Delente]

Thanks, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

So close.

[Big Cat]

I already wish him a happy birthday, Spft. I'm not doing it again.

[PFT Commenter]

Packing up his.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Out of here, you.

[Big Cat]

I hope you have a terrible birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's already over.

[Big Cat]

I hope it was bad. Hope you didn't get any presents.