Masters Preview With Shane Bacon, Max Homa, Michigan Wins The Natty, Bulls Fire Everyone + Hot Seat/Cool Throne And FAQ's

Summary

Pardon My Take – Masters Preview with Shane Bacon, Max Homa, Michigan Wins the Natty, Bulls Fire Everyone + Hot Seat/Cool Throne and FAQs

Episode Date: April 8, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Shane Bacon (Golf Analyst), Max Homa (PGA Tour Pro), Regular cast

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Episode Overview

This lively, wide-ranging episode of "Pardon My Take" celebrates the lead-up to the Masters tournament with in-depth golf talk, college basketball analysis after Michigan’s championship, NBA and Chicago Bulls drama, classic PMT segments (Hot Seat/Cool Throne, FAQs), and plenty of the show's signature humor and unpredictability.

Special guests Shane Bacon (golf broadcaster) and beloved recurring guest Max Homa join to break down the Masters, share behind-the-scenes insight, and keep things loose with stories from Augusta. The show also covers Michigan's NCAA basketball win, a Bulls front office housecleaning, viral sports news, Barstool drama, and more.

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Key Episode Sections & Timestamps

1. Michigan Wins the NCAA Basketball Championship

[03:00 - 16:49]

• Michigan defeats UConn to capture the 2025-26 title; Dusty May leads them to a crown.
• The hosts discuss the game flow (“never felt like UConn was in it”), Michigan’s rim protection, and several key moments.
• Praise for Michigan’s toughness despite not shooting well, and analysis of UConn’s valiant but ultimately limited performance.
• Discussion around the Big Ten’s dominance in college sports this year.
• Reflection on Dusty May’s coaching future, the Fab Five’s legacy, and Michigan’s transfer-heavy approach in the NIL era.

Notable quote:
Big Cat (about the transfer era):
“It’s so funny whenever someone says that because, like, if your team could buy a team, you would want that too.” [13:13]

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2. Masters Tournament Preview & Golf Talk

[76:04 - 114:40]
Guests: Shane Bacon and later Max Homa

Shane Bacon Joins

• Tiger Woods' absence from the Masters and how his personal struggles affect the PGA and Ryder Cup ([76:58]).
• Golf's reliance on Tiger as a solution for problems; pressure on him as a leader/ambassador ([79:30]).
• The rise of analytics and “stat nerds" in Ryder Cup captaincy, comparing to European success ([81:18]).
• Masters weather conditions: how a firm, dry Augusta will impact play (advantages to accurate, elite iron players; not necessarily bombers) ([83:18]).
• Scotty Scheffler’s "down" iron season—by his standards—and the new "second kid bump" ([84:22]).
• Assessments of popular picks (Scheffler, Rory, Morikawa, Jake Knapp as a “meditation”-level swing, Bryson's revenge narrative, others).
• Shane’s “Five Best Masters Scenarios” (from Patrick Reed winning to Brooks vs. Max Homa Sunday pairing, to Rory vs. Bryson drama) ([87:37]).
• Augusta traditions, Masters gnomes, food innovation (the new “Candy Bar”), and the annual media lottery to play Augusta.

Notable quote:
Shane Bacon (on who will win):
“I was kind of leaning heavily on Patrick Reed for a long time with the way he got out of the gate, but I’m just going to go Bryson. I think this is his year.” [100:12]

Max Homa Segment (Live from Augusta)

• Max’s expectations and mindset: “I feel like not winning is less fun than winning. So I’m kind of just going to go for it.” [120:03]
• Discussion of new Masters practice-range tracking tech (“I felt dirty doing that… there’s some things that guys just shouldn’t know about other guys”) ([121:04]).
• Course conditions: anticipation of a “firm, bouncy” Augusta and strategies for attacking it; the challenge of tricky angles and approaches ([123:34]).
• The evolution of Homa’s performances at Augusta: “I do think that you figured it out a little bit. It is one of the most amazing golf courses I’ve ever played, but it is goofy — it’s got some crazy golf shots that you’d never hit in your life.” [126:32]
• Playing with Carlos Ortiz, pre-round routines, and friendly games off the course.
• PMT lottery ball superstition and pre-round rituals for early tee times ([142:49]).

Notable quote:
Max Homa:
“I think this golf course also just very much suits what I do well and is honestly pretty nice to me on the stuff I’m not so good at.” [128:01]

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3. Breaking Moves & Sports News

Chicago Bulls Fire the Front Office
[34:00 - 47:27]

• The Bulls finally clean house, firing Arturas Karnisovas & Mark Eversley.
• Big Cat on the Reinsdorf family's legacy and what a good owner should do: “Just spend all your money on hiring the smartest guys to do everything.” ([44:00])
• Therapy session on being a Chicago sports fan and the endless hope for organizational competence.

NBA Coaching Carousel & UNC Hiring

• Michael Malone takes the UNC head coaching job.
• Speculative and comedic analysis of NBA/college crossovers and what it means for blue-blood programs ([32:06]).

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4. Virals & Barstool Drama

[19:12 - 29:43]

• Explosive viral news: Diana Russini and Mike Vrabel photo scandal (“toughest day of her life”). The hosts tread lightly, balancing friendship and the internet’s “joke economy.”
• Internal Barstool intrigue on who “leaked” the news, and a philosophical discussion about when to defend friends publicly.
• Parallels to past company drama (Riggs/Tiger, etc).

Notable quote:
PFT Commenter:
“If this was about anybody else, we would be making all the jokes… I’m just saying, like, from my perspective, she’s a very good friend, very close friend. … So if that’s what she’s going through, then I’m just going to try to be a good friend.” [26:48]

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5. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

[49:22 - 69:00]

• Hot Seats:
  • Roman Anthony (Red Sox outfielder’s fielding woes)
  • The Real Olympics (rise of the “Enhanced Games” for steroid freaks)
  • Flat Earthers (after record-breaking Artemis 2 moon mission)
  • Sabrina Carpenter (“hottest music video of 2026” — humor/bit)
  • PMT's ability to 'not get got' by online fakes
• Cool Thrones:
  • Space (humans traveling further from Earth than ever; Mars, anyone?)
  • Mock drafts (NFL draft season excitement)
  • Kansas City Royals’ Carter Jensen (overcomes a “slept in” scandal to get red hot)
  • Masters traditions and Augusta food drama (the “candy bar,” discontinued gnomes, etc.)

Notable quote:
Big Cat (on moon missions):
“I kind of just don’t care until we go to Mars… Call me when we’re at Mars.” [53:18]

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6. FAQs & Listener Questions

[148:20– End]

• PMT’s creative, loose “planning” process (“It’s like SNL… The minute we finish a show, we have to start prepping the next one - we literally don’t do that.”)
• The biggest backstage PMT argument: the infamous “dip spit” can.
• Show’s collaborative (but mostly improvisational) approach.
• Listener asks: “What do you enjoy more — a prime snarky Hank, or an all-time Max blow-up?” Both are celebrated.

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7. Fun Segment/Tradition Highlights

• Shane Bacon’s “PMT as Augusta Holes” Analogy ([96:04]):
  • 13th: Big Cat (“heartbeat of the program”)
  • 12th: Max (“simple yet complicated, can blow up anytime”)
  • 15th: PFT (“brilliant, history, gets cute”)
  • 14th: Hank (“underrated, stuck between superstars”)
  • 7th: Zach (“easy to forget, but growing”)
  • 18th: Memes (“all the memes come from 18”)
• Lottery Ball Ritual with Max Homa: Superstition for tournament success ([142:21]).
• “Skip the Ball on the Water” practice tradition: Max pledges to try it for the fans ([146:13]).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “For the most part, over the last three, four years, most of the [golf] attention… almost feels like the off season with the NBA, where right now we care more about where players are to get traded than the actual product.”—Shane Bacon ([79:59])
• “It’s a Big Ten world, we’re all living in it.”—PFT Commenter ([03:22])
• “Win by a lot, or do you want it to be stressful?”—Shane Bacon, on Brooks vs Max pairings ([89:11])
• “If you want to feel like you’re about to throw up for five hours, just have Spieth in contention with nine to play.”—Shane Bacon ([92:21])
• “I feel like not winning is less fun than winning. So I’m kind of just going to go for it.”—Max Homa ([120:03])

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Conversational, irreverent, self-aware: The hosts combine genuine analysis (especially in college hoops and golf) with Barstool’s trademark banter and inside jokes.
• Player access: Max Homa delivers relatable, honest talk about life as a pro golfer, Augusta’s quirks, and expectations at the Masters.
• Respect for traditions: PMT celebrates sports’ classic moments (The Masters, NCAA tourney) while also questioning their quirks (from Masters merch to NIL and portal).
• Self-deprecating and wide-ranging: The show never avoids a tangent, mixing deep sports chops with viral fun, gambling references, office drama, and lifestyle content.

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Final Thoughts

Listeners get a one-stop, high-energy sports entertainment show—mixing serious analysis (college basketball, golf) with PMT’s patented chaos, jokes, and guest camaraderie. This loaded Masters preview is a must-listen for sports fans, especially if you enjoy your tournament breakdowns with a side of mini-golf, space travel debates, and “would you eat the pimento cheese if you're allergic?” hypotheticals.

Recommended segments:

• [76:04] Shane Bacon’s Augusta preview & PMT-as-holes analogy
• [119:33] Max Homa live from Augusta—pre-tournament rituals & mindset
• [03:00] Michigan Natty reaction
• [49:22] Hot Seat/Cool Throne for classic PMT riffing

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Shane Bacon]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Big Ten. Dominant year big for the Big Ten. Indiana.

[Big Cat]

Ucla.

[PFT Commenter]

Ucla. Women's Badger.

[Big Cat]

Women's hockey.

[PFT Commenter]

Penn State wrestling.

[Big Cat]

Penn State wrestling.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just, it's a Big Ten world. We're all living in it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Monday night, the, the national championship game, I feel like people didn't enjoy watching because it wasn't great shooting. I had a question for you guys. Michigan was the better team. We all, we all saw it. It, it was, it was wild kind of watching a game where it was a 5 to 7 point deficit for UConn essentially throughout the entire game. But it never felt like it was in Jeff. Like, the only moment that I was like, oh, Yukon might have a chance was when there was like maybe five and a half minutes left and Mullins missed that three to cut it to four.

[PFT Commenter]

The one that went in and out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, cut it to four. That was the moment where I was like, oh, this could be something that didn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

It was that. Just never felt like it was that. And then there was the, the steal at mid court that turned into zero points on a breakaway.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then that would have been three.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Right afterwards. So like those were the two times where it felt it might get kind of close. But the irony is like Yukon probably played the best game that they could. Like this was.

[Big Cat]

Except for shooting.

[PFT Commenter]

This was. Yeah, but this was the exact script that they needed from Michigan. Like they, they out rebounded Michigan 4639 and they were, I think Michigan was minus seven actually on three pointers compared to Yukon. So like, yes, UConn didn't shoot great, but Michigan was like all time bad shooting threes.

[Big Cat]

Well, that was the thing though. That was it. It was. The pace was perfect. The, the. I know the foul. People are going to complain about the fouls. Yeah, I don't like when a national championship has a lot of fouls, but Yukon fouls more than Michigan. That's been the case all year. Like, yeah, there were a couple here and there, but I didn't think that was the prevailing thought. But yeah, it was Yukon. If they could have shot 38% from three, they would have won the game.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what we said, right? Yeah. On and I think last show.

[Big Cat]

It's got to suck knowing that you had that where you, you played great defense. You had the bad Michigan night. But that also is a credit to Michigan because the biggest takeaway I had from that game was. And I, you know, I watched Michigan all year, especially in Big Ten play. What they do at the rim completely changes everyone's mentality. They're the opponents. They're playing. UConn was scared. You like, and I'm not saying scared in a bad way. I'm just saying they. It was in their head that going to the rim was most likely going to get blocked.

[PFT Commenter]

There were little hook shots that they were putting up that they were missing. Long by like three feet, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it's like little things like that. That. It's just. They were. Michigan was such a force at their rim. Denial. And the Yaxel was hobbled. And they still, like, Morris Johnson was awesome. Mara was awesome. Elliot Cadeau. One's wins, mop. Like, they're just. They were the best team. They were the best team all year outside of Duke. Cause that actually was my other big takeaway was like, Duke just completely. Duke beat this Michigan team a month and a half ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I think if Duke plays in the championship game, they win by 50.

[Big Cat]

Easily.

[Shane Bacon]

Easily.

[Big Cat]

That was a. A wasted opportunity. But Michigan is a deserving champion. What they did in this tournament against the best teams in the hardest conference, I think we can all agree, like, the Big Ten was the best conference this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, easily.

[Big Cat]

And yeah, they. Dusty May is now. Is he. Is he next up in terms of, like, is he going to rattle off a bunch or is he going to go to the NBA?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so if he wants to rattle off a bunch, he has to kind of rework the team every offseason.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He has to hit the portal. He has to be active in the. Which he already is.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's always.

[PFT Commenter]

And Michigan, I think, is right now the favorites to win next season. Tough to win back to back. I. You know, I kept forgetting because they kept bringing the Fab Five out. I kept forgetting that Fab Five never won a championship.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I was like, Fab Five.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the way that they brought him out, it was like, yeah, we're bringing back that team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

From the late 80s at once. Like, wait. No, they actually got there right afterwards.

[Big Cat]

The. The. The Fab Five cultural impact. I totally understand. Imagine, though, if you were like Glenn Rice and being like, but I. I won. I won a title at Michigan. They don't never. They never bring me back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but he's got Sarah Palin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all that matters.

[Big Cat]

The. Yeah, but the Michigan team. We, we talked about it with, with Dusty May taking the picture of him scouting the Final four game. That's a, that's something you do if you know that you have the best team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We also had Michigan. I think there was players live streaming the night before the national championship trying to guess the size of Wemby's penis. Like these are things that you do when you're the best team and you

[PFT Commenter]

know you're the best winning culture. Yeah, that's, that's all that is. I, yeah, I think they did all this. And when we're talking about like Michigan not having the best night and how like that game script, if there was one that could have favored you. Yeah, that's kind of what it was. It actually, it is a massive compliment to Michigan that they're that good.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

That they can weather all this and still have a no doubt or championship out of it. That's how good a team they are. Also, Yaxel being very limited and to the point where he's, he's, he's telling Tracy Wolfson, like, yeah, I suck right now. Yeah, I'm not. I don't feel good. I feel awful. This sucks. I don't want to be out here. I'm not good at basketball. Yeah. Like, it was, it was a refreshingly honest halftime. He does clip farm though. Can we agree on that?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, big time.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Axel is a cliff farmer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Speaking to your point of the Michigan, the Indiana tournament teams that scored under 70 points, shot under 40 from the field and shot under 15 from three and got out, rebounded were oh and 50 all time. They're now one in 50. That's Michigan. That's, that's just what they, they scored all their points in the paint. They got to the free throw line. They were the better team. I never at one point thought like, I really didn't think. And I, I know that Yukon fans, I, I don't think you got fans are. Have to be like, there, there's a part of them probably is a little upset. Like we had the script. All we had to do was make a couple threes. But the other part is like, you've won two out of four. You've been to three out of four. This team was not the best Yukon team and they fought like as valiantly as possible. They went down fighting, which you, you have to be proud of them. But I, there wasn't a moment in the game where I was like, oh, Yukon is going to win this game. I really didn't Feel it. And I know that that's crazy to say because it wasn't a blowout and it never got to, like, balloon to, like, 15, 20 points, but I just didn't feel it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, also with Kado, like, he was a guy that going into the tournament was, like, a liability.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He was looked at as being like, if. If Michigan's going to get beat, it's because their guard's not going to be able to get done. And he was probably the best player on the court last night, and he was the reason why they won.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is pretty incredible. And that team is just stacked. I thought Mara didn't have as good a game as it, but, like, all the shots that he impacted where he wasn't plugged, it did feel like it. Every time UConn got in the paint, it felt like they were throwing a basketball into, like, four lanes of traffic and it was just going to get hit by a car. And they were some violent ass blocks.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, these were some, like, into the third row blocks. These were some. I want to break somebody's nose. I'm blocking the ball so hard. Like, they were not trying to keep the ball in play. No, they were trying to intimidate with the blocks. And it did. It actually. It worked. And Yukon, great season. I. They overachieved in the tournament a little bit, but, I mean, they were a good team. But.

[Big Cat]

Well, Danny Hurley remains 18 and one in the last four tournaments against the spread. How insane is that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they covered at the end.

[Big Cat]

Silly.

[PFT Commenter]

Great cover.

[Big Cat]

Furman is the only one that they didn't cover. That was the first round this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Great cover.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's just insane. He's just a great tournament coach. Dusty May now, in the conversation of great tournament coaches. Great coaches overall, I also love that Danny Hurley got everyone off the scent. Like, everyone expected him to do a press conference and complain about the refs. Yeah. And he went the exact opposite.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I love this crew.

[Big Cat]

He's like, if this crew was reffing every single time, I'd sleep well at night.

[PFT Commenter]

You see, he ran over. He was the first guy. He was a first responder after the ref got knocked over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Underneath the basket. He's like, let me help you up.

[Big Cat]

But that was. That was the high knees. Jeff Anderson. Yeah, that was the. That. That was my point about the rest. Like, I.

[Shane Bacon]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I don't want that many, many calls. But, like, I do think UConn plays a style that they're gonna call it. And like, yeah, there was a couple times. There's probably like two or three calls. It's like, all right, that might have been 50, 50 or there might have been a little bit of a flop there. For the most part, Yukon just didn't hit their threes. They just needed to hit a couple more threes. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I thought it was, I thought it was actually a pretty well officiated game. Yeah, yeah, you can, you can always make the case that, like, it's the championship, let the boys play a little bit more. But there wasn't really, like, they didn't affect the game. Yeah, Michigan was the best team by far in this tournament. I, I think UConn did a great job slowing them down. They didn't score 90.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But Michigan was just the best team all season, especially peaking at the right time. And now it's like, wow, how are we going to remember this tournament is this trailer?

[Big Cat]

Mullins, Duke.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, got it. I agree. That was the shot. That's, that's the one shining moment, I

[Hank]

think Big Ten supremacy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true. Good point, Hank. I know you love, you know, touting conferences.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You love that Big Ten greater than Big East.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true. Oh, Big East. I think everyone in Big east finished 100 top 100 in Ken Palm. Can we put it on this TV, by the way? It's not on, so we're just gonna. When we start to search. You could have done it, Hank. Nah, you make Max do it.

[PFT Commenter]

I could do it.

[Big Cat]

He. Max gave a look like. So you, you think Big Ten is the story? Yeah, by far.

[Hank]

Easily.

[PFT Commenter]

I think story of the tournament is pay to play. Probably Mullen's hitting that shot at the last second. I would say it's a pay to win tournament. Pay to win tournament. Like, basketball is ruined.

[Hank]

They should expand.

[PFT Commenter]

Unsustainable. Yeah, that's the new word.

[Hank]

That next year, the first year of expansion.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

They haven't decided yet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that would be the, the haters takeaway from the tournament is Michigan didn't have any. Michigan had 100% transfer.

[PFT Commenter]

Michigan bought their team.

[Big Cat]

They bought their team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's so funny whenever someone says that because, like, if your team could buy a team, you would want that too.

[PFT Commenter]

Every team tries to buy teams.

[Big Cat]

I will say, like, there is a world where, yes, it probably would mean a little bit more if it was all guys who had been there for three, four years. Like, if Purdue had won this year, there would have been a little bit more of sentimental. Hey, I watched These guys for four years, but a fucking championship's a championship. I don't care how it comes.

[Hank]

They did celebrate, like, the Thunder a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Well, it was like. It was like.

[Hank]

It was like a zero, zero celebration.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Actually had to shock the world. It's like you guys were. Yeah, it's Juan Howard. Very big. Very big favorites. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It was kind of weird having Juwan Howard around, too. Like, he just got fired.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I guess Dusty May, like, one of the first calls he made was to Juwan Howard and Joe. I mean, credit to. On Howard for. For being, like, the bigger man and. And being like, yeah, I got fired, but I still love my school.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like Dusty May. If they make a movie out of this season, he's definitely getting played by the guy from Billions, right? Bobby Axelrod. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Bobby Axelrod.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Dusty May also like. Bad night to be a Michigan State Spartan. Dusty May also might be next up with the horse voice.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he's always.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the last.

[Big Cat]

He's kind of cucked Tom Izzo going into the horse's voice in Michigan, going

[PFT Commenter]

to the term when they did the. Behind the. And he's, like, talking to the guys in the huddle, and you can't understand a goddamn word. No, but you can. But you know what he's saying. Yeah, you can feel it.

[Big Cat]

Just saying that's. That's a. That's something to just put on your radar, that Michigan State. It's got to be tough for Michigan State fans. They. Who's. Who's having the worst right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's January, February. Izzo. May.

[Big Cat]

May.

[Hank]

I didn't like what Dave did to you on Wake Up Bar, so that was mean about.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, you're bringing this up. You're doing it right now.

[Hank]

Well, we're talking about who had.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank's being a good friend. He's saying he didn't like. Yeah, right, right.

[Big Cat]

But you're doing it right now. Well, you're. You're doing what Dave did. Yeah, I'm not. No, no, you are.

[Hank]

I'm not gonna say.

[Big Cat]

That's fine.

[Hank]

Dave said we were in the building, which I was there for as well. In Indianapolis. Big ten school. Wisconsin lost to Duke. And then Dave said he vowed he did it to avenge your loss, which

[Big Cat]

I had not heard until Michigan last

[Hank]

night in Indianapolis got a win for the conference, and I did not like. I did not like that.

[Big Cat]

I also. My. My simple point back to Dave was that on Sunday, I texted Dave and I said, I have A future that I win $250,000. If UConn wins, you have a future that wins $500,000. Michigan wins. Why don't we come together and just say, let's go halvesies? No matter what, who wins? Would that. Wouldn't someone who's trying to avenge my death do that?

[Hank]

Yeah, he should have.

[Big Cat]

He should have. So I don't know where that disappears.

[Hank]

Not right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's not right.

[Hank]

Not right.

[Big Cat]

He was really trying to avenge my dad. He's gonna split it with me.

[PFT Commenter]

Dave's going through it right now.

[Big Cat]

And you guys agree? I. Like, I. If Yukon had won, I would have 100. Split it with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you definitely would, But, I mean,

[Big Cat]

I would have actually doubled.

[PFT Commenter]

People act like Dave has a horseshoe wedged up his ass just because he's won multiple NBA championships, a college basketball championship, a college football championship, like, 12 Super Bowls. Water pole. He's a U.S. open champion at Shinnecock, and he won the dozen. And everyone acts like all he does is what? His Red Sox are down bad. So I don't think that he can afford. I don't think he can afford to split that with you.

[Big Cat]

He actually. I know what he's betting every game on the Red Sox, and I. I actually don't think he can't afford it at this point.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

2 and 8.

[PFT Commenter]

As somebody that has bet every Pirates game and then every White Sox game and then every Athletics game over the course of a year, you run into a moment where you're going through a cold streak, and then you start to double the unit size. No matter what you say at the start of the year, you start to double, and then you get in trouble. And I think he probably had every intention of splitting that future with you. And then the Red Sox just broke his heart.

[Big Cat]

Double trouble. Okay. Hank. Yeah. What happened?

[PFT Commenter]

He's a. He's an emotional guy.

[Big Cat]

Yellow called him out.

[Hank]

Fiery dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

I don't know. They're. Dumpster fire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Dumpster fire. That early in the season. Dumpster fire.

[Hank]

I thought they were gonna be a dumpster fire going into the season.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Dumpster.

[Hank]

Remember Shane tried to dunk on me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, the Cubs are not much different in the fact that everyone's just hurt. Kate Orton. Nothing worse than the forearm tightness. That's got to be the worst. The worst. Because it's. It's like that's not a real injury, but it's coming. The real injuries coming anytime the forearm tightness is reported. Okay, before we get some more stuff including Michael Malone, UNC head coach, DraftKings. You know the place. Everything can turn in a moment in Augusta. One swing, one hole, and the entire leaderboard shifts. That's what makes this week perfect for live betting. DraftKings sportsbook, America's top sportsbook for live betting, has action from the first tee shot to the final putt. So you can react in real time as the pressure builds and the board keeps moving. And now you can take it Even further with DraftKings same game parlay feature. You can combine finishing positions with same round player props all in one bet. More ways to build your card. More ways to play the moments that matter. New sportsbook customers bet just $5. If your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app now. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE to turn five bucks into $300 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the crown is yours.

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[Big Cat]

Okay, breaking moves. Breaking moves. Give us some. Give us the moo. That's it. Is your mic even on? Is Hank's mic on?

[PFT Commenter]

Moon to the micing.

[Big Cat]

Breaking moves. Kate Horton is out for the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, damn.

[Big Cat]

It actually sucks so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

That's terrible news.

[Big Cat]

I love Kate Horton. This is basically exactly what happened to Justin Steele last year, beginning of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

But maybe the imaging's not like sometimes the imaging can be blurry and you're not sure what. You're not sure what you're looking at. And maybe the imaging, like once you get a clearer picture, it's gonna be fine.

[Big Cat]

Sucks. The the, the. The Cubs did win tonight. So when we're taping a little out of order because this is not the real breaking moves, which we'll get to but shout out that fan who was going for the foul ball and their entire ass fell out.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a tough scene.

[Big Cat]

That was an all time clip. Hank, did you see that clip?

[PFT Commenter]

I did not. I always.

[Hank]

I've been locked in on golf. I've been off the Internet.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Mini golf. I. You got to pull up that clip.

[PFT Commenter]

I always say you got to wear underwear to the ballpark.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That was it. The Cubs won tonight, so it wasn't. That would have been a perfect. This is the cub season. How it's going?

[PFT Commenter]

I thought it was Max.

[Big Cat]

Kate Horton being out really sucks. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It looked like Max out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hank, are you watching the clip? Give us a live reaction to the clip.

[Max Homa]

His ass.

[Hank]

His pants are down before.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, he moved. I'm, like, half nervous.

[Hank]

Fell down. Yeah. We're just down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All time. All time camera clip. I mean, how does that. Insane.

[PFT Commenter]

It's about as bad as it gets.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In terms of visuals. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

The real breaking moves, obviously. There was a report from New York Post about two friends of the program, Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel. The report essentially had them. I look like a. Like a camera. Like a person, like, in the bushes or something. I don't know who had got him. Paparazzi at a hotel in Sedona. Together. Yeah. Probably not the best look. And I know that every single awl, which I understand is like, these guys have to talk about it. And I agree. We do have to talk about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So when I saw this, I immediately I. I walked out of the studio, and Memes was cackling at the desk, and I did the Rigs. I was like, hey, I'm Riggs now. I'm Riggs now. I mean, not from the main account. And then Memes, he was. He was free to fire off from. From the personal channels later on. But I did. I did tell Memes not to put anything out for the man. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because I told Memes, I was like, fire whatever you want. It's one of those situations whenever something like this happens. Like, you could tweet whatever you want. If it's wrong later, it's gonna suck for you, but you could tweet, I told you, Memes. I was like, go for it. I also, initially, I meant from the

[PFT Commenter]

main part of my tea, because that feels like. Like they are friends of ours. I didn't. I didn't want to just, like, take a. On them as this was all breaking and we weren't exactly sure what was going on. It's a. I'm in an awkward position because Diane is a very good friend. I'm friends with her family, her family's friends in my family. So I feel. I feel bad that this is happening right now, and I Have. I don't wanna. I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I have been around her before when she has been accused of doing bad stuff that I. I have known to not be true. So she's been accused without reason before. I'm not saying that's what's happening this time. I'm just saying I'm gonna have her back. She's my friend. I'm not gonna talk about her because I feel like that would be just really a shitty thing for me to do as she's probably having the worst day of her life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, definitely.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not. I'm not gonna come close to doing that.

[Big Cat]

And Mike Vrabel's a friend of ours.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

My first reaction was like, so what's the big deal? Jake Laser had 25 dudes at his pool party. Like, he's probably hooking up with all of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Johnny Fanta insert himself into Coach's wedding before.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'll. I. So I am. I do consider Diana and Coach Rabel friends. And look, this is one of those situations. I don't. I, I'm gonna take their word for it. Like, they're, they're going through it right now and to pile on would make me a bad friend. I'm not going to. If, if it's, if it comes out that it was bad stuff and, you know, marriages are getting broken up, I'm not going to defend that. But like, I, at this point, I. There's. I'm going to go off of what I'm reading. And I get it. People have to make their jokes. Like, I'm not going to. I told memes when I came in, I was just like, dude, you could say whatever the fuck you want. I told Jerry o', Connell, say whatever you want. Like, you guys, it would be crazy for me to be like, you can't make a joke. Oh, if this. Guys that make jokes about everything. So everyone else is going to make jokes and I have no problem with it. If people want to blog it, joke about it, I don't give a fuck. I personally am not going to like, drag them and make it worse for them because I do have a relationship with both of them. But I'll say it doesn't look great. Like, no, just the pictures don't look great. But again, I'm not going to accuse them of something if I'm going to take them for their work. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I told Memes, not, don't fire from the main account. Your personal channel. Go for It. And then Dave put out the. The video where he did the rigs thing, too. And I think because Dave put that video out, I think everybody was afraid to blog it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because nobody blogged it. But we didn't tell anybody not to blog it. No, I just. I. Best case scenario, it's not what it looks like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, listen, we've been through this many times. Like, I remember it happened. I think it was, like, maybe probably nine or 10 years ago. It might have been. I can't remember if it was maybe Blake Griffin. Like, someone trashed him on. On the blog, and he was like, what is this? I was like, dude, I'm sorry. Like, I. He was like, yeah, I don't really care, but I was just wondering. And I was like, yeah, it's like, we're a big company, like, where people are gonna write shit, but we can control what we can say. And Memes, would you like to say anything? Because everyone. I think. I think this. When this story came out, it obviously was a huge story. People make jokes, but I think maybe the number one person who got tagged in everything was Memes. Every single person was tagging you. And, like, I saw the New York Post article. I was doing dinner with my kids, so I missed it when it first came out, and I saw it maybe, like, 45 minutes after, and I looked at the tweet, and memes must have been tagged a million times underneath. I was tagged in it right away,

[PFT Commenter]

and I saw it right away. So there was. There was one moment where Memes was reading the comments underneath one of the posts, and he was reading them out loud to me, and he's like. And then they're saying, like, how come memes hasn't responded? And then the other guy just said, memes is probably reading this right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

So I just like her articles.

[PFT Commenter]

I just read the headline. So I tried, quote, tweeting it real quick. I'm just like, oh, she's best friends with Mike Vrabel. Like, of course she hates the jets, right?

[Shane Bacon]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I also kind of think she leaked this article.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, go on.

[Big Cat]

I got my windy fingers. Fingers.

[PFT Commenter]

Go on.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, who.

[Big Cat]

Who. Who gives a fuck about Rossini and Variable? Like, going out in the middle of the desert? Who leaks that? You, Galaxy?

[PFT Commenter]

This is a meme.

[Shane Bacon]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

What better way to announce your hate for the jets than being like, I'm hanging out with Mike Van on a rooftop now.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I do.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think the best. The best thing ever would be if The Eagles traded A.J. brown tomorrow. She's back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then she leaks a net. A new article.

[Max Homa]

A.J.

[PFT Commenter]

brown was at the hotel, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Now you're doing the fanfic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Just let it go so it fly.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, big, big cat's right. Like, if this was about anybody else, we would be making all the jokes.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

I would be making every joke about the situation. So have at it. Do, do your jokes if you want. Like, I'm not, I'm not gonna whine or complain about just. No, I'm just saying, like, from my perspective, she's a very good friend, very close friend. And I don't want to, I don't want to look like I'm piling on or adding to a bad situation because, number one, I don't actually know what happened. And two, like, I'd like to think that I'm a good friend and somebody that, yeah, would absolutely try to help somebody if they go through a tough time. So if that's what she's going through, then I'm just going to try to be a good friend.

[Big Cat]

Right. It's like, you don't want to, you don't want to make it worse for your friends. And that, that's. And again, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It.

[Big Cat]

I, I, Anyone who walks, anyone who wants to tweet it and be like, or if I, you know, someone saw it on the street, being like, hey, what do you think? Like, doesn't look great. What do you want me to say? But I'm. They, they, they release their statements and I'll. I'll believe my friends. And if it turns out to be not true, then I'll be. Look like an idiot, but at least I'll say that, hey, I, I have my friends back. So, yeah, that's, that's kind of how it is. And yeah, people accusing us of being hypocrites for the Riggs Tiger situation. I mean, we're talking about it right now. It happened like two hours ago. We're on the podcast, we're doing an emergency breaking moves, talking about it. So we're not going to just, like, pretend it didn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's also a bit of a difference between, like, somebody's fourth dui.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where they also. You were.

[Big Cat]

You're like, I mean, I'm friends with Dan, but you've been friends with her for a decade.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, ye.

[Big Cat]

You know, so. But yeah, it's. And again, have it. You can make the jokes I think. I think they probably both know those are coming. And the Internet moves fast and, you know, the Masters will be here and life will go on.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, anyone that was panicking about Trump starting a nuclear war before the Masters just does no ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like that man is not ruining his weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Memes. Will you be. Will you be cooking up any memes going forward?

[PFT Commenter]

I had some, but those are.

[Big Cat]

Those are for the personal files. I will say this. There is a valuable lesson here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Like when I call out Diana, we.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes you just gotta let the entire

[Big Cat]

story come out and not just look

[PFT Commenter]

at these clickbait articles.

[Big Cat]

Right. Yeah. And take their word for it. I agree. Because, like, the.

[Shane Bacon]

The.

[Big Cat]

The worst case scenario is this is a. This is the. If it's the worst case scenario. There are marriages and kids involved, and that fucking sucks. And so it's like, that part is, like, shitty. And then if. If it's the best case scenario, it's nothing, then that's also shitty if. If you trashed them. So waiting it for. For the whole story to. To go through. I like that memes. What a lesson.

[PFT Commenter]

Good lesson. She's got so no more Jets Lander going forward.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure she would agree to that.

[Big Cat]

I'm sure she's listening this right now. And this is the most important, important thing that she's hearing is that, hey, if you could take one thing away from this entire experience is that please stop being mean to the jets for memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And the Eagles. And Eagles. Yeah. Max, what's your thoughts on this?

[PFT Commenter]

Max wasn't going to say anything anyways. He's not. He's not sitting in the chair.

[Big Cat]

He's doing the mini golf.

[PFT Commenter]

I will tell you exactly what Max's reaction would be. He would just cover his ears and. And like, wish himself out of the room.

[Big Cat]

Zach,

[PFT Commenter]

there's just not enough information. I wish everybody the best.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. There you go.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I actually did have a. I. I asked. So I talked to. To Jerry and I said, please give us. Because he was like, I don't think anything's going on. I was like, well, just give me a statement. So here's his statement. Wait, is this his actual statement? Guys, as the only real celebrity affiliated with Pardon my take, I can say I don't think these two are hooking up. I analyze the picks. It's a light hug followed by being lounge chair mates. After a brutal winter, all you want to do late March, early April is catch some vitamin D. What is Coach Supposed to do, strip down and sit on the other side of the pool. They ran into each other, laid out, ordered a burger and talked.

[Shane Bacon]

A.J.

[Big Cat]

i do not think they're banging. That's the Jerry Oconnell's official statement.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, because I, I, I was. I, I called Jerry and he's like, do I need to. Am I gone too far? I was like, no, dude, I don't. I, Jerry's. Jerry always is like, guys, he texted me, tft.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry's the king of going too far. And then being like, hey, did I go too far? And me and Big Gu was like,

[Big Cat]

nah, no, we don't care. Jerry's also the king. Which I love him to death, but he'll text me and pft being like, is this okay to post? And for one, the answer has always been yes. We've never said no. And two, we don't ever respond before it actually gets posted. Like, I, he, he texts us, and after he texts us, he posts it, and then we say yes, but it's already been posted for five minutes. So he's not actually asking us, but he does the.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he does the appropriate thing, which is he, in theory, checks with us. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which again, it's always yes, but it's always we don't control Jerry. It's always he's our fantasy.

[PFT Commenter]

Fantasy.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's kick it back to ourselves. Earlier in the day. We're talking Michael Malone. We got Bulls, front office, hot seat, cool throne. Shane Bacon, max homa. Guys, FAQs, incredible show emergency breaking moves ended. Okay. Michael Malone, congrats. He I. Michael Malone is the new head coach for North Carolina Tar Heels.

[PFT Commenter]

Very good basketball coach.

[Big Cat]

I believe that this was a direct response to the pressure we were putting on UNC with John Fanta. Now, the timing is not a coincidence.

[PFT Commenter]

But also I, I've seen multiple sources say that, that Michael Malone is considering bringing Fanta on as an assistant coach.

[Big Cat]

Tom Crean. Tom make a great guy.

[PFT Commenter]

There was somebody in John Fanta's pregame spaces said the exact same thing.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

And I, I think it's a great idea. Michael Malone, really good head coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Really good basketball coach. It does feel like, oh, shit. Dusty May said no. Tommy Lloyd said no.

[Big Cat]

Billy Donovan's waiting till the end of the season and the transfer portals open,

[PFT Commenter]

and Brad Stevens has said no five times. Yeah, we think it's actually no.

[Big Cat]

So the. I don't know how this way. I feel like it's either gonna go, I, I don't think it's Gonna go middle of the road. Does that make sense?

[PFT Commenter]

No. He's a. He's a really, really good basketball coach. But like, college basketball is.

[Big Cat]

I think it should be different. I think it'd be a disaster. Or they're gonna win a national title. I don't think they're going to make the tournament. Make a sweet 16 and like, he'll coach for multiple years and it will be like, kind of middle of the road. I just don't. Of all the connections that we. The stupid connections we like to do, my favorite was back in the day when. When Mark Tressman was hired by the Bears and people were like, do you know that Jay Cutler went to a QB camp that Mark Tressman was one of the coaches at when he was 17 years old? There was like, well, they probably know each. It doesn't. It doesn't matter at all. Hiring a guy because his daughter is the. Is on the volleyball team is quite something.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like he likes the university, apparently.

[Big Cat]

He. He. You know, that he's be. He'll be committed for at least the next two years. And maybe it's like, unc, like, hey, he's paying us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think it's. Technically, you're getting like a $20,000 a year discount.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On Michael Malone. On what Michael Malone on the street would go for.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy, though. It's absolutely crazy. I don't. I don't know if I. I don't think it's gonna work out.

[Shane Bacon]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

This. This also, if you're. If you're UNC fan, you got to stay optimistic, obviously. But there's probably also a part of you that's like, what is the. What is the. The final dying days of a Blue blood? It's hiring an NBA coach, Mike Woodson going to Indiana. So that was like the. That was like the death rattle of a blue blood.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah, yeah. But Coach Cal going back when he went back to Memphis.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, but he's like, he was always a college coach. I'm saying, like an NBA guy going to. You know, Cal was always college. That was. He was more. It was more weird that he went to the NBA than. You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Right. This is a. A big time Larry Brown move.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Michael Malone is a NBA coach. Woodson was an NBA coach. I know that there's college in there, but that's what they were known for. And then.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, I looked at his resume yesterday when they made the announcement, because I was like, maybe he's got a College pass that I was not. I was not aware of. Last time he coached in College was 2001. He was an assistant at Manhattan. He was also an assistant at Providence from 95 to 98. And then he was the director of men's basketball administration. Yeah. At the University of Virginia in the ACC in 1998. 1999. I have no idea what that job Description was in 1999.

[Big Cat]

I'll tell you what it was Michael Malone, if you want to. And again, we like him. He's a nice guy. I'm hoping it works out because I want UNC to be good, because I want them to beat Duke. I'm going to root for unc. I just have a little skepticism, healthy skepticism. But Michael Malone's college basketball coaching resume can be summed up in. That's a phone number that Rico Bosca would love to have back in the day. He would have definitely been chasing Michael Malone direct all around Final Four. You're the director of ops for. For what was the colleges virgin. And then what else?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he. He was an assistant at Providence, assistant at Manhattan, and he was dobo director of basketball operations at uva. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that would have been one. That would have been a prime Bosco.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's like he cuts up the film.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So he gets the blob sets before the coaches even get the blob sets. The one thing that I did see on his resume, I. I forgot this. He was the Serbian national coach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[PFT Commenter]

So maybe that's not actually right. Maybe he's going to spend some time.

[Big Cat]

Ooh.

[PFT Commenter]

They might be cruden.

[Big Cat]

Good catch. Pft. They actually think that. I think this might have just changed into. It might work.

[PFT Commenter]

I think UNC might be cruden over in Eastern Europe.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna have to think about that. I would love. Yeah. I want UNC to be good again. Colors are cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Colors are cool. I like that little ramp. Oh, I. I got a question.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Watching the Wolverine everywhere this week. All the old timey drawings of the Wolverine mascot, same type, deal with the. The old UNC mascot. What is that little hat that all the old mascots wear in the illustrations? It's almost like a navy hat, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, did people ever actually wear that hat, or was it only reserved for college mascots?

[Big Cat]

I feel like it's one of those things that, like, it was like the FCC back in the day. It's like you have to put this little hat so people know that the mascot is a mascot, so that they

[PFT Commenter]

know it's not real.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They know it's not a human.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it doesn't get shot if it's out in public.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because if you're, if you're, if it's like 1930 and you open the newspaper and you see that, you're like, oh my God.

[PFT Commenter]

They, it's an invasion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What are these Wolverine looking humans running around? Nope. Look, the mascot hat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're like, oh, is that, is that the Irish? Are they here? No, no. Don't worry. It's got a hat, darling. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Other news, the Bulls cleaned their entire front office out. Firing AK Firing Mark Eversley. The Bulls. So here's where we're at. The, the Bulls deserve credit. Michael Reinsdorf, Jerry Reinsdorf, the Bulls ownership, they deserve credit for doing the most obvious thing possible because they're such bad owners that there was actually some doubt that they might not fire these guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So I, I, before you go any further, I got a question for you because it seems like in the past when they've been good enough to make the playing game, that's when you wanted everybody fired. Yeah. Now they're bad enough where they are going to get a lottery pick and now they're firing everybody because they tanked.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, these guys deserve to be fired. Just for the record, AK was one of, if not. No, he was definitely the worst GM right now in the NBA. That's, I think that's actually, you can't dispute that fact. The, the, the, the moves that were made and he, he had three months where he put together a roster that was number one in the east and then for the next five years talked about that roster with Demar DeRose and Zach Levine. He traded a first round pick in Wendell Carter for, for Vuch. He drafted Patrick Williams and then signed him to $90 million. He basically is, he, he, he. All these guys that were on the team, he traded them too late and got nothing for him. Like they traded DeMar DeRozan, VCH, Zach Levine, Alex Crusoe, and the only one number one pick they got back was their own. They got their own pick back from the King. Just absolute disaster of a front office. Terrible scouting, terrible at trades, terrible at timing, everything you could ask for. They just didn't deliver any of it. But my point is that they're so bad that it should have been, it should have happened like a year ago or two years ago. And the fact that we got to this point and they finally did it, there's a lot of people congratulating the Bulls and like, being like, hey, you did it. I don't know if I can do that because the, the Bulls are still owned by the Reinsdorfs and they're cheap and they're not going to do the right thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Not even on, like, the second Derrick Rose night. You're not gonna go.

[Big Cat]

It's like seventh right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's, that's the one thing they've done.

[Big Cat]

Well, here are my, Here are my wishes for. Because this is the thing that always drives me nuts when, and I think most people would agree with this, when you have an ownership, like, I understand with a salary cap in a league and there's, you know, taxes and all that. I get that, right. Like, NFL, there's a salary cap. Major League Baseball, there's not. So owners should spend money. The one thing that you're never capped on is how much money you spend on your front office and your scouting department. Like, you should be spending all your money on that and being like, let's get the smartest guys to do the smartest thing. And so the Bulls should go out and try to say, Sam Presti, here's any amount of money. You name the number Brad Stevens got to make Brad Stevens say no. They have to. The Bulls have to make Brad Stevens say no. I think you guys all agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, always.

[Big Cat]

First, first thing they got to do for any job is make Brad Stevens say no.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What they're probably going to do is they're probably going to make Billy Donovan GM and then find a new, cheaper coach, and they're going to do it that way. They're going to go help this happen again.

[PFT Commenter]

They're going to go the Brad Stevens route.

[Hank]

Yeah, that worked, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What? Brad Stevens? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're just turning Billy D. Into the new Brad S. I like Billy D.

[Big Cat]

But the idea that, like, we have to save Billy D. Like, we got to do everything to keep Billy D. Happy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What are we doing?

[PFT Commenter]

So that, that is what was so confusing for me is like, Unc, did they reach out to Billy Donovan and he.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think so. He. The, the story is that Billy Donovan was not going to do it till after the season. And Unc felt pressure after Dusty May said no and Tommy Lloyd said no and the transfer portal was opening. They're like, we got to do something.

[PFT Commenter]

But if this happened earlier, like, I don't know, I, I, I feel like Billy Donovan probably doesn't want to stick around this organization right now.

[Big Cat]

Well, unless I give him a promotion.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which they might and he, like, it's just. I'm happy that these guys got fired. They were the worst GMs possible. They were so bad. They. They never had their plan change constantly where, like, we'll have old guys and try to compete right now. Oh, no. We'll get young guys and. And basically just dra. Pick. Try to trade for anyone who was a lottery pick four years ago. I mean, the Jaden Ivy thing is one of the most embarrassing things you can do. And maybe that's the reason, like, thank you, Jaden Ivy. You actually got them fired.

[PFT Commenter]

But again, are these guys worse than Garpax?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Which is crazy because, yeah, I didn't

[PFT Commenter]

think things could get worse than Gnific. You would take Garpax back in a second.

[Big Cat]

I wouldn't take him back. But, like, those guys at least could scout. They put together some, like, good players. They drafted some good players. Like, Patrick Williams was drafted and then given five years, 90 million. That is the. That might be the worst contract in, like, all sports history. The guy is not good. And it's like, you drafted him, and then you're like, you knew he wasn't good. And they're like, yeah, let's make sure we give him more money. So. But at the end of the day, it's still the Reinsdorfs. And I don't understand if you're. If this is what I will never understand. Jerry Reinsdorf is 90 years old. 90 years old. You can't take it with you, Jerry. Why wouldn't you just spend all the money right now?

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't get rich by spending money

[Big Cat]

in the next five years and try to make one good last run at it. Like, offer Sam Presti a Godfather. Offer him ownership. You just got money. You just got a big chunk of money from selling the White Sox. You cannot take this with you. And Michael Reinsdorf is like. He's now. He's now in, like, very firm fail son category, where he's got to start making moves. Hopefully, that's what it is. Hopefully Michael reinzed or feels the need to be like, I'm not. I'm gonna have a better legacy than my father. I gotta prove everyone wrong. And that will propel him to great.

[PFT Commenter]

Does he have any. Any irons in the fire? Is he up to anything, or is he just kind of waiting on his old man?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's. He's running the Bulls. He is running the Bulls.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so he's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he is the. He's in. In charge. And the Bulls are, like, the third I think they're the third. The third or fourth most valuable NBA

[PFT Commenter]

franchise just based on Michael Jordan and.

[Big Cat]

And. And being in, you know, the third biggest city. What? Like, you have so much money, dude. Just. Just spend it and make a team. Good. I don't. I just cannot understand. If I owned a team, I would spend all my money in hiring the smartest guys to do everything.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like this is. This is setting up for the Bulls to get a great lottery pick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it might be.

[PFT Commenter]

This is setting up for reset.

[Big Cat]

Would you guys not do the same? Would you not be like, hey, I'm gonna hire the smartest guy?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, no. Initially, I would Everything up real bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I would be. I would be terrible at. At owning a team for probably about 10 years. And then after 10 years of everything up, I'd. Yeah, I'd probably just say, hey, I. I'm gonna delegate basically my entire job, and I'm just gonna show up and go to games.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But it would take me 10 years to know Jerry Ryan's roof has had way longer than 10 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The one. The one problem with what everything I said is that a lot of the owners, Majority of the owners have huge egos. And you see it all the time where guys don't want to have someone else. Like, the owner doesn't want to be the guy who's like, oh, yeah, he's a great owner, but really, it's just the GM that he hired, and he's the genius.

[PFT Commenter]

But I wouldn't care.

[Big Cat]

I wouldn't either.

[PFT Commenter]

I would not care.

[Big Cat]

I wouldn't either. But it always happens. It always. Like when Theo came to the Cubs, that's what happened at the end of that.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, who gets credit would not care.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

At all. Like, that's kind of the. That's kind of the goal of the entire thing.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

If you're an owner, you're not a gm. That's not. You can. You can take credit for, like, running a good organization like Robert Kraft. I'm sure one day he'll. He'll get into the hall of Fame.

[Big Cat]

But that also, like, how that ended.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Big Cat]

That was like, yeah, who's. Who's gonna get credit?

[PFT Commenter]

But I feel like, yeah, the owner usually does. If the team's good, the owner will get the credit. Be like, he runs a good organization, good for them. But nobody will ever be like, yeah, the owner did a great job of assembling this roster. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I just wish the Bulls had done this before the season and actually tanked correctly.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, because they essentially did.

[Big Cat]

They. They started five and.

[Shane Bacon]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

And everyone's like, oh, how far off?

[PFT Commenter]

We might have to do another sim.

[Big Cat]

We're. We're, I think, going to. We're the ninth, but it's just, like, so stupid. You have this incredible draft. You're going to have to strip it down to the studs. You let these guys fuck around and put together a good enough team that wasn't fully tanking.

[PFT Commenter]

Do another sim.

[Big Cat]

Do one more.

[PFT Commenter]

Bull's got nine bad Sims, really bad. Wizards, nine for the.

[Max Homa]

It's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Shut up, Hank. Oh, Maverick's good. Mavericks got the first pick. Yeah. Good for them. Good. No, leave it there.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's gonna. That would be such.

[PFT Commenter]

That's gonna happen January 6th.

[Big Cat]

One more, one more.

[PFT Commenter]

I swear to God, one more. Okay, you take that bft. Yeah. Take second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, one more, Boozer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just do it till the Bulls get, like, top four.

[PFT Commenter]

How many times it's gonna take? No, no. There you go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. Third. I take third.

[PFT Commenter]

Who'd you pick?

[Big Cat]

Third? Acuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to watch fun basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

I call it. Hey, Memes. I call him Darius A. Cup because he's still developing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But yeah, you guys, you guys understand what I'm saying? When it, when it, like when your bad owner does something good, you want. You want to give them credit for doing something good. Someone likened you last night. They're like, it's, it's. It's essentially like your four year old peeing in the toilet and not peeing it all. Peeing all over the. The toilet seat and on the floor. You're like, great job, but really, that's what you're supposed to do.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, here, here's the real job of an owner. This is really all you have to do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Have an exhaustive process where you hire former general managers that have had, Yeah. A lot of success, and you hire them to hire your general manager.

[Big Cat]

Y.

[PFT Commenter]

After you get that recommendation, you hire a general manager and then you let your wife start a charity that you then support, and that's all you do. And then you go to games. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that is the job. And then you let the general manager take care of everything. You make up. You invent jobs for your children, and then your wife runs the charitable foundation, and you just go to dinners and you go to every game and you make. You look at your bank account once

[Big Cat]

a year, and you go on a cruise every winter for a month and you're like, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my basket. Honey. My basketball team just appreciated by 75 million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This year. That's nice.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's get to hot seat, cool torone. Thank you for letting me vent, guys, but I, you know, it's like, hey, we took one good small baby step forward now. You got to keep going. Just keep doing it. Keep doing it. All right. Hot seat, cool throne. Okay, before we get to hot seat, cool throne, Twisted tea. Twisted tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends, Twisted T is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. We love twisted tea. It's delicious. The half and half, the original.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that half and half twisted tea, man.

[Big Cat]

It hits the spot. Go get a twist of tea today. Summer's right around the corner. The weather's starting to break. Sunny days goes perfect with the twisted tea. So go grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Hank. Hot seat, cool throne.

[Hank]

My hot seat is Roman Anthony. Oh, we talked about the Red Sox struggles a little bit earlier in the show. They're 2 and 8 as of this recording. Our guy Shane tried to. Tried to dunk on me during the season preview about me being down on the Red Sox going into the year. I would turn out. I was right. There's, you know, sell the team chance going on John Henry. There's a video of him, like, reacting where he was trying to figure out what the fans were saying. And then he goes, oh, sell the team. Which I was just.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he, like. He mouthed it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

He was like. You could see him, like, kind of listening. And he goes, oh, sell the team.

[PFT Commenter]

He was not ready to. He did not think that's what they were saying.

[Big Cat]

That's very funny.

[Hank]

And then Roman Anthony, World baseball classic hero. But he has been.

[Shane Bacon]

He's.

[Hank]

He's become a meme, basically. If he can't. He just can't throw anyone out from left field.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

Everyone's just running on Roman. Shane tried to tell me he was. He was great last year, but he was playing right field. Now he's playing left field. He's probably going to be getting a lot more DH reps so that it's just not good. When you're this early in the season, early April, and like the One of the main things. Maybe it's just because my algorithm, but all I see is just don't run on Roman.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just.

[Hank]

As a joke. Because you can. Anyone can run on Roman.

[PFT Commenter]

You are also. Max said it.

[Hank]

There's a. There's a throw he had last night where he threw it like Billy Football at Stu Finders.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. And you also are anti Italian. So you were true. Predisposed to hate a guy named Roman.

[Hank]

No, I love. I'm pro Ro.

[PFT Commenter]

But are you?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It doesn't seem like you are. I am.

[Hank]

I'm saying he's on the hot seat. I'm just saying.

[Big Cat]

Let me see this again. Go back. Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

[Big Cat]

Terrible throw.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you rather have Manny playing defense?

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, even. I'm not talking about with the bat. I just mean like defensive Manny.

[Hank]

Yeah. It's fun.

[Big Cat]

That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

It is funny. Like, I used to love it when Manny Ramirez would just.

[Hank]

And you could play. He could play the monster. He was good. He was good at playing the monster.

[PFT Commenter]

He would, like, be a Cutoff man, like 10ft away from a guy in the outfield. Just a legend.

[Big Cat]

So bad vibes all around.

[Hank]

Bad vibes all around.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that they're going to sell the team?

[Hank]

I don't. Because it makes money.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Why would you. If you're them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would you sell it? That is the only way. I. I talked to Dave, but he was. He was trying to pick my brain the other day about like my. My battles back and forth. Dan Snyder and how it eventually happened. I was like, listen, the bottom line is you just have to hope that they start to lose money somehow. And with Boston, I don't see. I don't see fans like, stopping going to Fenway Park.

[Max Homa]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it was like a 10, 15 year process, maybe even longer than that, until it started to hit like Snyder's pocketbook in D.C. but eventually he got there. I don't.

[Hank]

Money wasn't really the issue.

[Max Homa]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. It was double. It was like he was.

[Hank]

Scandal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Sex Pass serial scandal. And. But also the money. Like, the money does make a difference to these guys.

[Hank]

But if the sex Pass serial scandal didn't happen, he probably still owns the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Possibly.

[Big Cat]

If the. Yeah, yeah, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good possibility. But it did get to the point where, like, he had. He had sponsors pulling out. That had to do. I don't think the sponsors would have pulled out if it was just the sex stuff. And the team was making money like they had good ticket sales. Yeah, it's like a combination, but, yeah, it does. It sucks because it. It feels like the Red Sox just don't want to. They don't care about winning. And as corny as it sounds, I do think that baseball is better when the Red Sox are competitive, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

My cool. Throwing to space.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I was. It was on my hot seat, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Shout out.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead on here.

[Hank]

Everyone's talking about the. The Artemis 2.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

They're. They. They traveled farther than any mortal being has ever traveled away from Earth. So that was cool. The. The pictures are cool.

[Big Cat]

Was it? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a hater? Are you a space hater?

[Big Cat]

I kind of just don't care until we go to Mars.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Mars is cool. This.

[Big Cat]

I want to go to Mars. Like, I don't know. I just get. Call me when we're at Mars.

[PFT Commenter]

I cared a little bit because we got progress.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I guess we got.

[Hank]

You got to go farther and farther and farther.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to go to Mars.

[Big Cat]

I want to go to Mars. I want. I want to appreciate what's in front of us. This is cool, but I would like to see Mars. I don't know. I just want to see Mars.

[PFT Commenter]

This picture might also be AI Okay.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not. It's from the NASA account.

[PFT Commenter]

I think this one's from puberty. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think that might be a. Oh, no, Max. I don't know. Maybe. This is not a video of the moon. It's close up.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Camera movement on a flipped image of the moon.

[PFT Commenter]

So I, I. Maybe I think it's kind of cool because we are as far away as we've ever been. I think it's cool because we have gotten to see, like, a new generation of flat Earthers trying to figure out how to explain their way out of this one.

[Big Cat]

Those pictures.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty funny.

[Big Cat]

I'm. I'm down for that. I'm just saying, like, maybe I just. Maybe I just expect more out of us. I'd like to go to Mars.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It would be fucking badass if we got to Mars. This one's from the White House.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's also a picture.

[Max Homa]

The photo. Photo.

[Big Cat]

NASA. This. That's a cool picture. All right, fine. You know what? Cool, cool pictures. I just also. All right, here's my problem. Go to Mars or go back on the moon. I thought they were going on the moon.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we're gonna go back to the moon.

[Big Cat]

All right, so if we go Back to the moon. I'm in.

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna do a base.

[Big Cat]

I want to see us on the moon again. We've never been back on the moon. How is that possible that we went on the moon in the 60s and we just never went back on it?

[Hank]

Maybe we could never went in the first place.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, Hank. That's what I'm saying. I want to see us on the moon.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we won the space race, right? It was like, suck at Russia. In your face, Khrushchev.

[Big Cat]

Let's see. To fly by. I want to see. I want to see us on the moon.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think there's a lot happening on the moon. Is a thing like.

[Big Cat]

But it's still. But don't. Like. Isn't it crazy? We just went on it, never went back.

[PFT Commenter]

We should build a golf course on the moon.

[Big Cat]

That'd be sick too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, I'm gonna take NASA's man card for. For sending this expedition up during March Madness. Like, wait until the end of the tournament.

[Big Cat]

I guess I'm just a dreamer. Sounds like you're not the only one.

[Hank]

Sounds like you're not.

[Big Cat]

No, I am. I want to go. I want to go deep. I want to go far.

[Hank]

This mission was to test the ship and find the landing area.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so then when. Then that'll be sick. When we go on the. On the. On the moon, I'm. I'm in for that.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't really understand any of what they're doing or how we're getting there. But it is kind of cool that it's the furthest that it's ever been.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That humans have ever been, you know, be further. Mars. Mars. I would like to see Mars too. Hank probably wants a football game on Mars.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he does. He wants super bowl on Mars for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Roger Goodell would definitely be like, Jaguars. You're going to Mars. Oh, yeah. And then you have. And then you got to play the Chiefs on Monday. Football the next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, can you imagine?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No. The Chiefs playing a home game on Mars.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good luck.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Good hot seat. Cool throne, Hank.

[Hank]

Thanks.

[PFT Commenter]

Great job, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Great job.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, my hot seat was going to be flat Earthers, but instead, I'll pivot. My hot seat is going to be the real Olympics because we have an update on the enhanced games.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

One of my favorite topics of the last year. Oh, yeah. It's real. It's real. Real.

[Hank]

Did you see that? The vaping protein was fake.

[PFT Commenter]

Ah, that was a Fake story. I got got.

[Big Cat]

That's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's a good idea. I got got. It's not real, but I would, I would like for it.

[Big Cat]

What? Max, how come it's okay if PFT gets got? But it's, but we laugh at Max. We're old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm dumb. Yeah. Okay, that's fair point. Fair point.

[PFT Commenter]

All around.

[Big Cat]

Old and dumb.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, all around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I, I'm standing.

[Big Cat]

Just say like, as a, as a podcast, because I, I got got a couple weeks ago, the Rick Patino quote was fake.

[PFT Commenter]

Which one?

[Big Cat]

About digging the graves.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna go in it. I just want to say as a podcast, like, maybe this is a disclaimer at the start. We get caught. It's okay. That's just what we do.

[PFT Commenter]

I get got, like hourly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we should just be like, be okay. Like, I'm okay with just being a guy who, like, if you, if I read something, if someone tells me something, I'm just gonna take it as face value. She's like, yeah, okay, that's real. And then I'll just tell it to everyone else. Let's just get. God, you don't like that? No.

[Hank]

I'm kind of with Max, though. Like, I, I, I, I posted what I thought was like a really heartwarming video.

[Big Cat]

Oh, well, that was really stupid. The whales getting cleaned. Yeah, that was really dumb. That was. You just went, really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. A guy was driving.

[Big Cat]

That's totally different.

[PFT Commenter]

He's driving like a front end loader on the face of an orca.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's totally. I mean, I, Rick Patino quote was like, he could say that. You, you had a John Deere on top of a whale.

[Hank]

It looked like it really needs it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Rick Patino's done weirder stuff than that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Come on, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

But so I guess I got got by the vaping thing. I, I still think that somebody should make it. I think that's a great idea. Like, joke might be on them for inventing it as April Fool's gag. And then somebody else steals their billion dollar idea. Actually, let's have our product team just take a look at that. I feel like barstool sports could. We got a good demographic for that here. But the Enhanced Games just got valued at $1.2 billion. And the enhanced Games, you might recall, are the, the steroid users alternative to the Olympics. The all Steroid Olympics, where anything that you can do to your body is fair game for, for bodybuilders, weightlifters, swimmers, sprinters, etc, it's being run by Peter Thiel. So it's definitely not a scam and it's absolutely good for the world. And our guy that we did the podcast with, Hank. Remember that, boss?

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Boz was telling us about enhancing the bodies and how it's like a gateway towards future scientific innovation. So first you get like little implants in your eyeballs so you can read greens better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And next thing you know, we're half man, half cyborgs, and we're breaking 50 on the golf course.

[Big Cat]

I got. I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, it's 1.2 billion dollar valuation, which is. It sounds like it's a fake valuation because it just sounds good to say $1.2 billion. But they're trying to find a home for like, broadcasting it this year. I'm excited to see these freaks and like, how fast they can run, how high they can jump. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pay at least a little bit of attention to it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, absolutely. I want this. I. This, this would be like, must watch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, absolutely. Now, the, the funniest part is when you look on the website for the enhanced games, they changed the website a little bit in the last couple months because there was one page that was like a guide to coming out as enhanced to your parents because they're saying that people that have been doing steroids have been living in too long.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it was like a guide of how to explain to your folks. Like, like, almost like you're coming out of the closet, but you're coming out of the closet being like, hey, yeah, I take steroids. Mom and dad, I hope you still love me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's a very funny website. Very funny concept. I will be watching some of it.

[Big Cat]

Yes, absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

And my cool throne, I'm gonna go with mock drafts. Mock drafts is mock draft season officially?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is.

[PFT Commenter]

As, as the, the seasons change and we close the page on college basketball, a new page opens up and that is 2026 NFL mock drafts with trades, which is a great time of year. Getting mad at mock drafts this early is so fun to do and. Yeah. So let's see on espn. We got Sunny Styles.

[Big Cat]

This is Schragers.

[PFT Commenter]

Schrager. Oh, well, I mean, Schrager, Zer guy, he hangs out with every coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sonny Styles to the commanders. I would like that very much. Who do we have going to out on this? Caleb Downs to the Cowboys. Do we have a problem? Ty Simpson creeping his way back up into the first round.

[Big Cat]

Jets take Omar Cooper Jr. At 16.

[PFT Commenter]

You like that. How do you grade that memes? I'll take it. I give Sonny Styles an A.

[Big Cat]

Also, who got the Bears taken? Eagles get denzel Boston at 23. Brown gone. No, it doesn't mean that. Yeah, it's us.

[PFT Commenter]

Wide receiver factory.

[Big Cat]

Okay, keep rolling.

[PFT Commenter]

Denzel Boston sounds like an awesome nickname for Proctor when he's on the Patriots.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Massive humanity. I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So there's been. How tall is Proctor? Like, six, seven.

[Big Cat]

He's a massive humanity.

[PFT Commenter]

I loved it when. When he would just get the ball, they'd throw, like, a little wide receiver screen to him. But anyways, I'm excited to look at all the mock drafts because it means that football's coming back, and it means that the draft's getting closer. Shout out. Pittsburgh not making the kids go to school. You get to stay home when the drafts in town, baby.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, we. I've seen a number of mock drafts. Stephen Shea put out his mock draft as well today. It sucks. Don't read it. But all the mock drafts are coming out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm reading all of them. And it was funny because last year, I was not at all into reading mock drafts. And I think at one point, Big Cat, I said to you, like, is it just me, or like, this draft doesn't have the same juice as it normally does? And then you realize it's because maybe your. Your favorite team was good for one season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you get the top 10.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And now I'm all the way back in.

[Big Cat]

Now.

[PFT Commenter]

Now I'm like, this is the most exciting draft maybe ever, maybe in the history of the NFL.

[Big Cat]

All right. My hot seat. Funny that we were talking about it, because as I was. As we were talking about getting got. I was about to do a hot seat where I got got.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, what was it?

[Big Cat]

It was the master's hats. The ones that. That are going that, like, it looks like the master. It's like masters merch hats. And it just had, like, one that just had pimento on it. One that said now driving. I was gonna say, like, it's crazy that the masters are selling. Are selling these type of hats, but I don't think it's real. It is.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, was it, like, the giant block letters?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this. So look, I don't. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's real.

[Big Cat]

They're real. I don't like that.

[PFT Commenter]

I think those help me out.

[Big Cat]

The master shouldn't have hats that you could like. This is, like, peach on it, right?

[Hank]

Pimento?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Azalea.

[Big Cat]

Maybe they are real. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think those are real. It'd be funny if they were not driving one's funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But that's like not a Master. Like, you put.

[PFT Commenter]

Not if Tiger's wearing.

[Big Cat]

Somewhere else. No, definitely not.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't want him wearing that thing.

[Big Cat]

You like those hats.

[Hank]

I don't personally, but.

[Big Cat]

And I just feel like the Masters is like above that. Is that not. Is that.

[Hank]

Yeah, but they just want people. They. They know people are going to be shopping.

[Big Cat]

True.

[Hank]

Women be shopping.

[Big Cat]

Women be shopping. Masters guys be shopping. That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

I only saw one fake one.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It was like I got my ass

[Big Cat]

eaten at a corner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was real.

[Big Cat]

That one is real. Yeah. 100 real. Either way. I guess. I mean, I shouldn't hate. Because I've never been to the Masters. I don't know. I just don't know. I'd want.

[Hank]

I'd have to go see for myself to. Really?

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You do a judgment.

[PFT Commenter]

Boots on the ground. Yeah. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

The Masters has such a cool logo and they're so, like, strict with it that, like, that's all they need.

[PFT Commenter]

So, you know, they don't have any of the, like, giant block letters that you see for most of the golf courses now. These are, like, kind of tasteful and scripted, but still. I kind of agree with you. It's like this seems like they're doing a little bit too much.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The I. Yeah. Like, I guess we're. We're. It feels like we're one. One Masters away from them doing the upside down letters. And then I. Him fully out.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's the guy that. That wore sun devils upside down at the Masters last year?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. People were so pissed.

[PFT Commenter]

He took a piss in Raised Creek. Right. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm actually like, the Masters. The Masters might be the one.

[Hank]

No, he's a fireball.

[Big Cat]

The Masters might be the one tournament where I. I kind of love everyone really hard, you know?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, for the most part, like a guy taking a piss on a golf course. Like, who cares? But I just kind of love the Masters. Like, you cannot do this.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I love it. Reading about the Masters every year I do this. I remind myself of, like, the different traditions they have there and how they do things just, like, completely, completely differently from every other golf course. They've got a team of, like, their staff wanders around the grounds just looking for people that are about to throw away trash.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, as you crumple up a hot dog wrapper or whatever. A sandwich wrapper they intercept. They come up to you and they're like, hand that to me, please. I love that they have a zero trash policy. I love that.

[Big Cat]

And then my cool throne is also the Masters, because I. I saw this tweet. It was very funny me. It's a little Wednesday reading for you. This. This just tells you how special the Masters are. This comes from JC Hoops Jackson Collier on Twitter, he said, my dad got tickets to the Masters one year and took a friend of his. Apparently, they were walking around the grounds, marveling at Augusta's beauty and what have you. Normal stuff for a really cool experience. At some point, they got hungry, so, of course, went to get some food. Everything was inexpensive. Great, Great part of the charm. My dad told his friend he had to get the pimento cheese because that's the thing to do with the Masters. His friends just said, okay, got a pimento cheese, wolfed it down, and that was the end of it. That night, back at their hotel, the friend got ill. Like, deathly ill. Getting sick. Fever, hives, the whole thing. They went to a hospital, and the friend recovered enough for them to drive home. To this point, my dad still had no clue what in the world had happened. By the time my dad drops his friend off at his house back in Arkansas, he said to my dad, those pimentos will get you. This man was allergic to pimentos. Ate the pimento cheese sandwich anyway. And when my dad asked why in the world he ate the sandwich anyway, the friend responded with, I wanted the full Master's experience. Yep, that's beautiful.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Like, I know I'm going to maybe go to the hospital, but we're at the Masters, and I have to eat it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Respect. I had a buddy that did that with shrimp. He was allergic to shrimp, but once a year, he loved it too much, and he would just eat a shrimp and then just stab himself with the EpiPen. Be like, I got to take. I got to take one for the team.

[Big Cat]

You got to do it. You got to do it. So, yeah, Masters. I mean, Masters week is the best we have. Shane Bacon and Max home are coming up.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It is the absolute best.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. I. I heard a stat that the last, like, three or maybe four years, the person who won the Masters was the person that was in the lead in the FedEx cup points at that time.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, this is. This has happened with the Masters now. The. It's. It's. It's like the NCAA qualification of. Of the Masters, where I've seen a lot of people just be like, your master's winners are going to come from these nine golfers and no one else. It's like. But you still got to pick one of the nine pretty tough.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, this one is kind of a weird stat because it's. It's, like, based on the FedEx cup points, which isn't, like, strokes gained or anything like that. Jacob Bridgman, he's a really good putter. That's all I know about the guy. And then I think it's been, like, years and years since the person who won the last tournament before the Masters ended up winning the Masters. It's been, like, a very long time.

[Hank]

I feel like that one's tough, though, with. With Bryson, John Rom, and Patrick Reed not factoring into that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And Camp Smith.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, also, hot seat, since we're talking

[Hank]

about Masters, and Brooks hasn't been able to play in all the events.

[Big Cat]

Sense Irish cuisine, because Rory was asked why he didn't go more Irish on his menu, and he said, I want to enjoy the dinner as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, there's not enough cabbage.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Beans. Franken beans.

[PFT Commenter]

Beans, toast.

[Big Cat]

Whole, whole tomatoes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just beer. You should have just done beer.

[Big Cat]

A beer flight.

[PFT Commenter]

Beer and potatoes.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Zach, my hot seat this week

[PFT Commenter]

is gonna be Sabrina Carpenter. Have you guys seen any of the new Sabrina Carpenter music videos out? No. No. She may. In the most respectful way possible, Sabrina Carpenter may have dropped the hottest music video of 2026.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so why is she on your hot seat?

[PFT Commenter]

Because I think it's appropriate to put

[Big Cat]

her in the hottest seat possible.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, before we go any further, how old is she?

[Big Cat]

Old.

[Shane Bacon]

A full adult.

[Big Cat]

Like, full adult?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right.

[Big Cat]

Full, full adult. Like, been an adult for at least three years.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

That's correct. Yes, sir.

[Big Cat]

She's been an adult for, like, five, seven years.

[PFT Commenter]

Eight years, almost. Happy birthday.

[Big Cat]

That's a lot of adult. Almost.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday.

[Big Cat]

Tons of adult. Yeah. Oh, you missed little Sass's birthday, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he didn't fill out the Excel spreadsheet, so tough.

[Big Cat]

Zach, how. How much. How many times have you watched this video?

[PFT Commenter]

Probably three.

[Big Cat]

Okay, That's a good number. That's a healthy number. No skips.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the best part? Top to bottom, full video as far

[Big Cat]

as the video goes. Video range, like, we're talking first, second to, like, three minutes, 20 seconds.

[PFT Commenter]

Is the top of the video better, or is the bottom you bottom guy. I think I was more so center. I was center. Focus frame. Okay, that'd be that. Probably mid screen.

[Big Cat]

You're what? You're like. You're like middle school basketball. Like, guard the belly button.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Can't go anywhere without his belly button. You ever have a coach tell you that?

[PFT Commenter]

We're talking abdomen fall.

[Big Cat]

The abdomen lock in, guard the belly button. Can't go anywhere without it.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a good looking video. I gotta, I. I gotta agree with you on that one, Zach.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's good. She got. She got good looking friends too.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out to women. It looks like she's having fun.

[Big Cat]

Shout out women. They're also famous.

[PFT Commenter]

We love women who are famous friends.

[Big Cat]

Madeline Klein and Margaret.

[PFT Commenter]

Quality.

[Big Cat]

I knew that. Dude, you didn't let me fucking finish. Madam Klein and Margaret Qualley.

[PFT Commenter]

Can I tell you something? They. They both look a little jealous of Sabrina. It's like they know that energy. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They kind of like wish that she wasn't so hot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If I saw those three, I would go up and I'd only talk to Sabrina.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the other two be like, what's this guy's deal?

[PFT Commenter]

It is a house tour. It's a pretty sick house.

[Big Cat]

Just kidding. I wouldn't even go close to any of these women because.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd be very afraid.

[Big Cat]

Very, very afraid. Good. Hot seat. Cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Throw my cool throne.

[Big Cat]

This week is going to be Kansas

[PFT Commenter]

City Royals player Carter Jensen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because earlier in the week or in previous days, he did oversleep, but since then has hit two. Two home runs and he's five for eight.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

So he used it as fuel and kind of figured out how to contribute to the team moving forward.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

So sleeping in, not the end of the world. A lot of guys have been there and he was able to bounce back.

[Big Cat]

And I wish nothing but prosperity for

[PFT Commenter]

him in the future. So, Zach, how many times did he sleep in? On record? They've got one in this press conference.

[Big Cat]

One time in this press conference. He slept in.

[PFT Commenter]

That's correct. All right, now, was it an alarm issue? Do we unpack that at all? Was he all night gaming?

[Big Cat]

He did say that it was just.

[PFT Commenter]

It was just an oversight with the alarm. He didn't wake up. And then he's gonna, you know, he recognized his mistake in this press conference,

[Big Cat]

that he's gonna move forward.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna make sure it doesn't happen again, is what he said.

[Shane Bacon]

You.

[Big Cat]

You did a very good video, Zach, explaining how this could happen. I sent it to Vinnie. There's a chance Carter Jensen saw Your video. And we're going to try to get him in the office when the royals come to town.

[PFT Commenter]

If he does see it, I hope that he was able to watch it and realize, oh, I'm not alone in this. It's going to be okay. And then you can move forward from

[Big Cat]

this and you can grow. Representation matters.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

There's guys out there of all shapes and sizes. Guys have done it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Guys who can hit. Guys who can hit. You haven't done it in a while. No. We're due for one. It's Q2. Spring's creeping up, but we're just trying

[PFT Commenter]

to best of our ability. When was the last one?

[Big Cat]

It was, like, sometime in February, maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're due. We're due. We're doing. Seasons changing. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Can we talking.

[PFT Commenter]

Weather's changing. No, we're due. We're due April.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Q2 started April 1st. Yeah. And I think you did have one in Q1. Yeah. So we're doing. And you said.

[Shane Bacon]

You said.

[Big Cat]

You yourself said once a quarter. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Worst case.

[Big Cat]

Yes. But not show days. He's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's figured out show days.

[Big Cat]

Love that. Zach, do you have any other. Did you have any that you had on the list? The other rest of us was Roman, Anthony and space.

[PFT Commenter]

So we got. Oh, got all of that.

[Big Cat]

Same wavelength.

[PFT Commenter]

Very nice. Also, shout out Jacob, he hit up the group chat with a little bit more explanation of what's going on with this moon mission.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're going back to the moon in 2028. This mission is to test the ship, find the landing area.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're scouting. We're.

[Big Cat]

All right, so. All right, so you know what? I'm back in. I'm back in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're going back.

[Big Cat]

Because I. I didn't. I thought we were just going for a drive by. I didn't. I wasn't interested in a drive by. I want to go on there, and then I want to go to Mars. Is that fair?

[PFT Commenter]

Completely. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. What are you watching, Hank? Oh, I thought you were watching something. I thought maybe it was like, I'm very nervous about Frankie Fleetwood, so I

[Shane Bacon]

thought it was maybe the part three.

[Big Cat]

Part three is Wednesday.

[PFT Commenter]

Wednesday. Yeah. Now, one thing we got to talk to Max about later. That you're able to see everybody's practice range session. Like, I can go up. I can look up Max Homa's, like, every swing that he took on the practice range today.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

That feels a little personal to me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That feels like an invasion of privacy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll Have a word.

[Max Homa]

Can you hear?

[PFT Commenter]

No, but it tells you, like, the ball speed, how far it went, where it went. He was leaking his drives a little bit to the right.

[Max Homa]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

Maybe intentionally.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe intentionally. Yeah. I don't know what he's aiming at.

[Big Cat]

That. Yeah. It's like when I was doing mini golf, I was trying my hardest. Try my hardest. Try my hardest. Try my hardest. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Shane Bacon and then Max Homa.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest recurring guest. One of our favorites this time of year because golf is back the majors are back. Masters week. We have Shane Bacon on the show and he is going to be part of the feature groups on masters.com this week. So definitely tune in, Shane, before we talk about golf, apologies to you. You're an Arizona Wildcat. That was disgusting.

[Shane Bacon]

Not great. Never great. Whenever they play their worst game of the year on that level of stage, I will say the. The Bacon curse, if you will, is over. I went to Arizona in OH2. And I went there between there and Syracuse because of the basketball team. If you remember, that was the year Syracuse won the national championship. And as Arizona had, had still never made a Final Four until. Until this year. So it was finally nice to see them get to the Final Four.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they got back and now. Now the coach doesn't have a boss anymore. So that's good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're good. Tommy Lloyd.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he can just do whatever he wants.

[Shane Bacon]

I heard some rumblings in the background about that, that it hasn't. Wasn't great. So I. I'm very happy Tommy's staying around and the hopes that maybe next year we can keep the run going. But, man, I love this team so much. It was such a bummer they got smoked like that.

[Big Cat]

It is the worst when that win a season, a special season, ends like that. All right, so Masters week and now I. That's not about Masters week. But it's obviously the biggest story right now in golf is Tiger Woods. Obviously, we saw that he's going to get hopefully some help. He gets arrested for the dui. He's also become the most popular meme in the world. That meme has him. Him. The. I was just talking to the president. All of it, it's got. It's got shelf life. Like it's going to be around for a long time. But my real question is, I heard all this stuff like Tiger was about to be the Rider cup captain. Ty Tiger had, you know, he's going to play at the Masters this year. Is all that just on pause or is it maybe more significant that it's like, hey, he's no longer going to be the Ryder cup captain. He's no longer going to be doing all these things?

[Shane Bacon]

Well, I mean, the rumors about Tiger being the Ryder cup captain. He's got a really good relationship with the guy that owns Adair, man, or where they're playing next year in Ireland. I mean, they've been friends for a long time. So I think there was a little bit of kind of a handshake in the background of maybe Tiger being a big Part of that, because obviously that brings more eyeballs to an event that already has a ton of eyeballs. But I'd heard Tiger didn't really want to do it. I mean, there's a lot of commitments. You see how involved Luke Donald is on the European side. It's basically become his life. Right, right. I don't think Tiger wanted to do a lot of the background media stuff, things like that. So I don't necessarily think he was going to do that anyway. I think he was definitely in the conversation potentially to kind of be the face of it, maybe have some people in the background kind of doing the workings that Luke Donald does on a day to day and week to week basis. But I think, to your point, I think the pause is happening right now with the golf. I mean, obviously he's not going to play this week, and he's taking time away and getting out of the country to work on himself and everything that's going on. That's not to say he won't play golf later this year. I mean, there's been a lot of talk around him potentially playing in the U.S. senior Open with an opportunity nobody's ever won, the U.S. junior Amateur, U.S. amateur, U.S. open, and a U.S. senior. And Tiger is a big history buff in terms of the golf stuff. So I think there's a focus on potentially playing in that at some point this summer. But right now, just the focus on, you know, working on himself, getting better, and obviously dealing with everything he's been dealing with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And I do feel like for the last couple years, if there's been any problems in golf, the solution has been like, we'll just get Tiger to do it Right. Like, whether it's, you know, like bringing the live golfers back, figuring out where the PGA's next direction is, TGL or even the Ryder Cup. It's just like, Tiger's gonna help out next time, and everything will be perfect after that happens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's still such a force. So it's like, as much as it's. We want him to get better, it is. It does leave a void in the golf world when he. When he's taking some time.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah. I mean, I think there's a level of pressure on his shoulders right now to make sure you're continuing to do this stuff. I mean, he went from the guy that hit the golf shots now being the guy that's kind of making the decisions in the background and all of that attention and kind of background movement with the PGA Tour and everything that's going on in terms of new scheduling and money moving around and signature events. I mean, you think about professional golf, I mean, this week, you know, is actually an outlier in terms of the focus simply being on golf and who's going to win and the excitement of watching a great golf tournament. But for the most part, over the last three, four years, most of the attention, it almost feels like the off season with the NBA, where right now we care more about where players are to get traded than the actual product on the court. And I feel like right now with golf, there's been a lot of pressure with living the PGA Tour. And now obviously that pressure has moved into what's the PGA Tour going to look like in the future and how's the schedule going to lay out. And I think so many of these eyeballs and players kind of focus on Tiger to lead the charge. And we joke a lot about this in the background. I mean, you guys know this. You can be an excellent golfer or basketball player. Doesn't mean you're going to be a great coach. Doesn't mean you're going to be a great gm. And we've seen plenty of superstars fail in that department. And so you are leaning on a guy to be this, you know, business savvy dude to do all of these things when maybe it's not what he's great at.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So. So let me ask you, when it comes to like the Ryder cup, like to use a football analogy, if you wanted to revolutionize offense, you want to find like the next wrinkle in the game. You don't necessarily hire a guy that was a former quarterback or a great player. You like Sean McVeigh, he was that young guy that had a different brain, you know, now a lot of the disciples from like his coaching tree into that analytics mode is there. So who's the golf nerd that has like the forward thinking analytics brain that could do for the United States with Luke Donald's done?

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah. I mean, the Europeans have Eduardo Molinari, who's probably a name you occasionally hear of, but I mean, a former professional golfer that has kind of become the stats guru for the European side. I'm not sure right now who that is on the American side. I think Paul Azinger was that to the previous generation. And I think the fact that they didn't keep bringing Paul back was a bit of a miss in terms of what the PJ of America could have done on the American side. You know, Zinger leaned heavily into people away from the game to kind of guide him in terms of coaching, but I'm not sure who that player is right now. On the American side. I think we've kind of stuck players in their position. Obviously going with Keegan last time. I mean, there's a lot of talk around guys like Brand Snedeker and Stuart Sink potentially in terms of Adair Manor. I wouldn't hate if they brought Zinger back and put him in that position to see what he can do now. But the one problem is the older you get, the more kind of distance you get from this generation. I think Zinger had a great relationship with those guys like Boo Weekley and Anthony Kim and those types of players. And I'm not sure he has that same relationship with these young 20 somethings that would in theory be on the team next year.

[Big Cat]

Right. Okay, so this week, let's start with big picture. The weather looks incredible. I feel like this is the first time in a long time that it looks just immaculate. But the story I've already heard, it's going to be very dry. So break that down. Who's, who is that going to help and what does that mean when, when Augusta dries out? What, what type of players are going to have the advantage?

[Shane Bacon]

I think more accuracy off the tee is going to be very, very big. I mean, that's not always the case at Augusta. You can spray it and get away with it, you know, Tiger, not the straightest hitter off the tee in terms of driving the golf ball even in his prime, obviously had a lot of success here. Phil Mickelson, much of the same. Even Jordan Spieth, who got off to such a great start early in his career here, not a, not a really straight driver, the golf ball. So I look at players that can hit it straight and find a lot of fairways because you're going to get that 15, 20, 30 yard run out when you do find the short stuff. And then I think it just goes back to iron play. This is always a second shot golf course. This is always the guys that are the most styled and most confident with their iron play. Guys like Scotty, guys like Rory, guys like Colin Morikawa, obviously, if he's 100 healthy, I look at that level of player that'll have success because it's not necessarily going to be a birdie fest this week. I think this will be a lot more. Somebody shooting two, three under par is going to be a great score. And so I look more towards the great iron players and the guys that can find fairways over the type of players that can Overpower the golf course.

[PFT Commenter]

So you mentioned Scotty Scheffler being a great iron player. He is. But he's been bad this year. His irons have. Well, bad for Scotty.

[Shane Bacon]

Very bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. He's been, like, pedestrian.

[Shane Bacon]

I. Pft. I'd say. I'd say bad for a pro golfer. 82nd right now. Yeah. I mean, like, he's. He's average on the PGA Tour this season with his irons. I mean, barely picking up shots against the field. In terms of the strokes gain metric with the irons. This is a stat that he's led each of the last three seasons on the PGA Tour. I keep equating it to if Steph Curry started to miss free throws, and you'd kind of be looking around going, what's going on here? But the fact that he has been this inconsistent with the irons has been an issue, and it's the reason that the inconsistency has kind of followed him since that first win this season. So for Scotty to play great this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Week.

[Shane Bacon]

The irons have to at least get a little closer to what we've seen in previous iterations. He doesn't have to be the best in the field, but he's got to be top 10 to have a chance to win this.

[PFT Commenter]

But he does get the new kid.

[Big Cat]

The kid bump Remy days ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Remy might be a winner.

[Shane Bacon]

So much.

[Big Cat]

Remy's less. There's two weeks old and already gone to. To the Masters. She. Remy's at Augusta. What's.

[Shane Bacon]

What's perspective like? What's the second layer of perspective? Big cat like, you have three kids. What was your perspective after two? Mine changed after two.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think two is. Two is definitely, like, less stress. Like the. Cause you.

[Shane Bacon]

You.

[Big Cat]

You're just. You just know the routine a little bit more. So there's. I think that it's maybe not as much of a pop for him, like, life changing. You know, you already have a kid. You have your second. It's awesome. But it's also like, all right, we've done this. We know the playbook, so it might not help him that much.

[Shane Bacon]

I would agree with you on that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Remy's probably the youngest.

[Shane Bacon]

A minimal boss bump.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Minimal bump.

[PFT Commenter]

You think Remy's the youngest patron in the history of Augusta?

[Big Cat]

Has to be, man.

[Shane Bacon]

That's. That's a great. That's a great question. We're saying, yeah, two weeks, nine days.

[Big Cat]

I mean, 10 days.

[Shane Bacon]

I'll dive into the history books.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe. There's probably been a baby that's been born at Augusta. I would imagine that's happened one time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely happened.

[PFT Commenter]

And you got to name that baby T. Olive. So out of the. Out of the field this week. Tell me if I'm crazy, but I have to bet on, you know, my friends. I always bet on Max Homa, always bet on Brooks Koepka. I've developed a fascination with watching Jake Knapp swing a golf club, so I have to continue to bet on him. Does he have any chance at all? Because his swing, it's like. It's like you're meditating when you watch it. It's like Freddy Couples. It's beautiful to see. Does my guy, Jake Knapp have any shot this week?

[Shane Bacon]

You know, I think he has a. An opportunity. Do I think he's a five top five favorite of mine? No. But I think he's definitely potential to do something. I do feel like we are trending towards a quote, unquote, random winner here at the Masters. You think about the recent trend in terms of all these superstars winning around here. I mean, you have two Scotty wins. You got John Rahm in there. Obviously, Rory last season. There's kind of been this incredible run over the last few years of kind of big names winning here, much like what we see at the players. And we have seen at times random, you know, random players pop up and win. I. I like Jake Knapp a little bit. I like Oxe in terms of players off the board. I like Patrick Reed a lot. Again, to potentially pick up a second green jacket. I actually have for you guys. I wrote down my five best case master scenarios if you want me to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love that.

[Big Cat]

I love this.

[Shane Bacon]

Okay. I thought about you guys as I did this. So at number five, I have Patrick Reed winning. I mean, funny, yes, it would be interesting. It would be fun. But I don't know if we've talked enough in terms of golf, especially with you guys about, you know, some of the players leaving. Liv. I was doing the math. Liv, at one point had 13 major champions on their tour. I mean, obviously they've now lost two with Bright, with Brooks leaving and with Reed leaving, and this guy leaves live, and then he's just absolutely dominating the European Tour. He's won twice, lost in a playoff. He's leading the race to Dubai right now, which is basically their version of the FedEx cup up. So he's been the best player in Europe, and he also has the best resume at Augusta, basically, over the last five years. When you look at where he's finished. Came close last season. So Reed at number five again. I. It just. It would just be funny. Rory, given Patrick Reed the green jacket, I think that would be something people at home would be interested in.

[Big Cat]

Agreed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Check your pockets, Rory, after you put the jacket on them.

[Big Cat]

Yes. All right.

[Shane Bacon]

Number four. I thought of you guys. This is my all PMT final round. Brooks versus Max in the final pairing. PFT's got his kind of Donna, Donna Kelsey jersey going.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

As he's watching the final round. I think that would be fun. Book Brooks trying to win a third different major. Max trying to exercise the demons from 2024. Is that best case scenario for you guys?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think I could watch like you talked about. Donna Kelsey. I. I would be too nervous to see.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Best case scenario for us is just one of those two wins. Like, I don't.

[Shane Bacon]

I haven't got him to win by a lot. Or do you want it to be stressful?

[Big Cat]

Win by a decent amount. Because then I would say actually win by a lot because then we can make T shirts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good point.

[Big Cat]

No, I mean, Hank would have the T shirts ready to go before the term.

[PFT Commenter]

Shane, are you familiar with that?

[Big Cat]

When.

[PFT Commenter]

What year was this? 2020.

[Big Cat]

Whatever day, whatever year it was. The rain, rainstorm. John Rom's year. Yeah, the year John Rom won.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the rain. Us. And I think Brooks was in the lead during the rain delay. And then Hank, Mike made up. Congrats, Brooks T shirts. And from that point on, just nothing could happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did. He jinxed it.

[Shane Bacon]

Do you have those shirts anywhere? Like, is there anyone left?

[Big Cat]

I can find them. I don't know.

[Hank]

Like, this. The way barstool works is pretty much any team that wins a championship or as close, like, you kind of have to be prepared. So I was just, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was round three, but yeah. So, yeah, Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it wasn't Saturday.

[Big Cat]

No, it was.

[PFT Commenter]

The rain was on Saturday. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was Saturday.

[Hank]

He was in the final group on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

It was Saturday. I know it's Saturday. And we all had futures on it.

[Shane Bacon]

Either way, I like that you guys are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Shane Bacon]

I was just gonna say I like the way that you guys are on Hank for doing his job. I mean, Hank's doing his job.

[Hank]

Thank you, Shane.

[Big Cat]

Can't exist.

[Hank]

Do my job in trouble. Don't do my job in trouble.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. This is. I feel like something's up here. No. Either way, I. I think. By the way, I got.

[Shane Bacon]

I got something. Something for Hank in A little bit. I got something for Hank a little bit that he's gonna like.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Shane Bacon]

But, yeah, just get the shirts made now. Why don't you just get the shirts now? Brooks 2026 Masters champion. And you don't have to sleep on it on Saturday night.

[Hank]

Yeah, easy enough.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so that eliminates Brooks number number three.

[Shane Bacon]

I got Gary Woodland winning, obviously. I think this is the one that would be the most emotional. I'm sure you guys followed the whole journey at Houston with the brain surgery and ptsd. He obviously opened up about that. This guy is second on the PGA Tour in driving distance this year at the age of 41. He's averaging 324 yards off the tee. Obviously played great last time out. Said it's the best he's played in his career. And a fun little sidebar for Gary Woodland. If you want a major, if you wanted Augusta, he'd have a major at Pebble. In Augusta, only Jack Tiger and Tom Watson have done that. So Gary Woodland, kind of the feel good story in my list. Number two is Speed being tied for the lead with nine holes to play on Sunday. Now, this is just. I just want it. I want it in my bloodstream. Big Cat, do you ever do stuff with your kids and you think back to when you were young and you think, like, how the hell did I just do this stuff? I think about the trampoline a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

In this world, like, how was I so, like, easy going on the trampoline? And now it makes me so nervous.

[Big Cat]

Yes, definitely. Big time.

[Shane Bacon]

Time.

[Big Cat]

Big time. Yeah. Trampoline is a big one. Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah. It's in, like, I do it a lot, and it makes me. I feel uncomfortable. I used to do flips. Now obviously, I don't. I'm 42 years old. I feel this way about Jordan Spieth being in contention at a major championship. Like, that's kind of like jumping on a trampoline as a kid. Like, how did I go through this emotionally? How was I able to handle it? How did I go through the swings? And I just feel like this new era of golf. Fan needs to feel that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

At a major championship. So Jordan Speed, with nine holes to play, understanding what all that feels like, because it's not easy. It's not like he shoots even on the back and wins.

[Max Homa]

Right.

[Shane Bacon]

He'll make two birdies and an eagle and a triple, and it'll be completely crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you were gonna go with the angle of, like, for Jordan Speed, like, when he was younger, he was not thinking about how nervous he should be. And now when he plays, that's where his brain goes. He's, like, become a dad to himself on the course,

[Shane Bacon]

probably in some regard. He probably thinks a little bit about it. He's actually played pretty good golf this season. By the way, I think Jordan Spieth is. I mean, if there's such a thing as a champion, as a sleeper, I think Jordan Spieth is a relative sleeper, considering it's been more consistent. It hadn't been great, but there's been more consistency. And then my number one scenario is Rory versus Bryson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Sunday, Bryson wins. Yeah, I just think that's a lot of fun. Bryson again.

[Big Cat]

I had a question about that, because I actually think now that our beef is over with Bryson. It's been, you know, a couple years now. I actually kind of like Bryson in this tournament. He was close. You know, he kind of blew it last year. He didn't finish second, but he blew it last year where he had a little stretch. It was like, hey, Bryson is. Is going to maybe be contending here. And it was, you know, the Rory story took away from everyone else who finished below him. I feel like this is a revenge spot for Bryson, and maybe the dryness helps us. His shot game, his profile.

[Shane Bacon]

I mean, if he. If he's in it straight off the tee, it can very much help him because he'll have. You know, he'll have short irons into the par fives, which will be extremely beneficial. Typically, you got to dominate the par fives around Augusta national to contend and win, but I'm with you. I think Bryson's my pick. Big cat this week. I mean, yeah, the way he's played this season, couple of top six finishes in his last two starts. Obviously came close last year, but felt what Sunday at Augusta feels like when you have a chance to win. But, I mean, he's won twice on Live, and one of them was the playoff over John Rom, where He hit a three wood from 290 to 12ft in the mud to win. I mean, Bryson's playing great, and I'm with you. I think Bryson has a real opportunity to come back out and get it going once again.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that the fact that. That Rory won last year makes it more likely that he'll be in contention again this year because he's kind of, like, playing free? He doesn't have to think about it all the time, or do you think it's going to be more like. Like a victory lap for Rory?

[Shane Bacon]

I think it all comes down to Thursday pft. I think with Rory, it's how he plays in the opening round. I mean, he's been dreadful, if we're being honest, on Thursdays in his career at the Masters. Hasn't shot in the 60s on a Thursday since 2018. His scoring average in the opening round in his last seven Masters 73.14. I think Thursday tells us a lot about how engaged Rory is. Obviously, he wants to win. I mean, not many people have won back to back green jackets at Augusta. The last to do it was Tiger in 01 02. I mean, I think he understands the history of it, but I think we'll see. Obviously, the back injury, who knows how he feels in terms of terms of health wise. He'll tell us he feels great, but obviously when you get under the gun, we'll see how he's feeling in terms of the physical nature of it. I kind of like Rory a little bit. I kind of lean a little bit on. Could he freewheel it a little bit more? Obviously understanding? If he plays terrible, who cares? I mean, it's not like we're going to be grinding Rory on Sunday night if he doesn't get himself in contention. But I think going out there and just being able to hit driver all over the place and maybe try to make a lot of birdies in an eagles on a tough golf course could play into his hands a little bit more.

[PFT Commenter]

Have they checked his driver? Is he going to be allowed to use an illegal one like he did last year?

[Shane Bacon]

I, I, I, I'm hearing, I'm hearing it's, it's legal at this point, but I mean, this is, you know, we're recording this on a Monday, so who knows how bouncy it'll be on a Wednesday. I have something else for you guys if you want to hear it. You let me know if you're ready for it.

[Big Cat]

No, I love it. Let's go.

[Shane Bacon]

So, so I wrote this today. These are holes at Augusta national that fit the personality of y' all show.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

So I like this shape.

[Shane Bacon]

I thought you guys might be into this. So we're going to start at the 13th. Obviously, everybody knows the 13th. Fame par 5. One of the most famous holes in the world. This hole is Big Cat, Kind of the heartbeat of the program. Keeps it on the tracks for the most part. Makes some incredible points at times, can make some horrible points at times. But I'd say for the most part, people look forward to 13. They love having Big Cat around. And he's just continued to rise in terms of popularity over the years. I think the 12th is max. Simple yet complicated. Can blow up on anyone at any point on any given day. You know, I think you look at it and you see kind of this sweet little boy, just like you look at 12 and you think it's a wedge or a non iron, yet all of a sudden you're making a seven when you walk away. So 13, big cat. 12 is max.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Shane Bacon]

Pft. I got you at 15. I got you as the 15th, the par five, if you're okay with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. I thought you were going to pick a one, but that's fine.

[Shane Bacon]

Well, no, no, that's. I think that that's low hanging fruit. I wasn't gonna do that. The 15th is. Is a brilliant golf hole and. And I find you a brilliant human being. Half the fairway is. Is basically a no go if you miss it on the left side. We saw Rory battle that last season. The green is really enticing. If you get cute, you can make a bogey. And there's a ton of history of 15. You think about the bridge. Pft. I know you're a big history buff, so I feel like 15 is you. A couple of par fives of the big boys on the show. And then, Hank, I look at you as the 14th hole, kind of stuck between two superstars, yet you have your moments all the time. I think the green is extremely underrated, Much like I find you extremely underrated on this program. And I think there's some great stuff that happens at the 14th each and every year, Especially with some of the whole locations over the weekend. So Hank is 14, I got. Zach is seven. Kind of easy to forget about seven.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

I feel like Zach, I mean, I know a lot of people don't sleep on this guy anymore, but early in his career, kind of easy to sleep on him. It's a sneaky hole. It's got better over time, much like Zach has. It's actually gotten longer and, and kind of more creative over time. I feel like Zach early on was. Every now and again, maybe once a week he'd pop in. Now obviously he's on like these on YouTube all the time. I mean, I'm assuming he's probably got his own brand at this point. Probably got an agent. Zach, you got an agent or. No. Agentless.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Happy to be on the team. Yeah. Well, for now, wait.

[Shane Bacon]

Wait till we get through this week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

You know, I mean, people gonna be blowing up the. Blowing up the Phone. So I got Zach is the seventh hole. I. I find Zach one of my. I find the seventh one of my favorite holes at the golf course, and I find Zach one of my favorite characters in sports podcasting. And then the 18th is memes, because.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[Shane Bacon]

A lot of memes come out of the 18th.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Think about Scotty sitting down at 18 last year. All the winning moments, both the good ones and the awkward ones. The 18th is memes. So those are my breakdowns of the holes at Augusta national as. As you guys on the show.

[Big Cat]

I love it. And also, I want to say thank you, Shane, because you should have seen memes smile there, because he was, you know, in the back of his head, he's like. And he's going to forget me. Is he going to. To make me, you know, the Hooters parking lot at Augusta? No. You get 18 memes. There you go. So that was great. I love that.

[Shane Bacon]

Where all the action happens.

[Hank]

Hardest tee shot in golf.

[Big Cat]

You basically just did, like, a children's book for how to learn about Augusta for us. You talked to us like we're four years old, and we loved it.

[Shane Bacon]

My daughter dumbed it down. I talked to her a lot.

[Big Cat]

Like, you.

[PFT Commenter]

You are.

[Big Cat]

You truly know this show. The two ways to explain something to us is dumb it down and compliment us, and we'll. We'll be like, oh, shit. We know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, like, maybe show a picture of boobs while you're saying it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, that was great.

[Shane Bacon]

Tough to do. Tough to do this week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's. Let's. Let's break down real quick. Can you maybe give us, like, so your pick amongst the. The. The favorites and then a couple long shots and why. Maybe state a case on why they could potentially win it.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah. So I mentioned Bryson. He's going to be my pick this week. I was kind of leaning heavily on Patrick Reed for a long time with the way he got out of the gate, but I'm just going to go. Bryson. I. I think this is his year. He's one of those guys that seems to get better as he understands golf courses. He played great. I mean, you forget how good he played as an amateur. You know, when he. When he won the US Amateur and then played here alongside Jordan Spieth, I think that was 2016. I mean, he had a chance to be near the top of the leaderboard through 36 holes. I think he made triple on 18 on Friday afternoon to kind of lose steam. And then he finished low amateur that Week. But Bryson is a history buff and loves this place and understands the importance of it. I think there's added incentive to go out there and do it, considering what happened last season, you know, to exercise the demons, if you will. I mentioned Patrick Reed, though. You know, listen, we love watching dudes bomb it off the tee. Brooks, Bryson, Rory, guys like that. That Patrick Reed's a bit of a throwback in terms of the way he does it. Doesn't hit it really straight off the tee. As I mentioned earlier, kind of important to find fairways this week. But I go back to the Zach Johnson Masters when he won this golf course played really, really tough. You've got to pitch the ball well if you're going to get around Augusta when it plays firm. And I think Patrick Reed has some of the best hands in the world. And I think the way he's played this season, he's got a ton of confidence. I don't love the new sponsorship. I don't love rolling into a new week week with a new sponsor hat, but I don't think that stuff affects Patrick Reed. I like Patrick Reed with the potential to win. And as I mentioned, Akshay, you know, he hits a lot of fairways. Akshay's not super long, but he drives it incredibly straight. He's a left handed golfer. A lot of lefties have had success around Augusta national, and the putter this season has been incredible. Even outside of the victory, he's playing some of the most consistent golf of anybody in the world. So I'd say OXJ is kind of my pick. Kick down the board, if you will. And Reed and Bryson are near the top. Who I like this week?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I. I like it a lot. I have a question for you about a controversy at Augusta this year. The gnomes. This is the last year that they're selling the gnomes at Augusta.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

What happened? Why. Why are we taking gnomes off the market? I thought they were wildly popular guys.

[Shane Bacon]

You know what? You. You present them to people, you see them get popular. People love them, they get obsessed with them, Then you move on to something else. That's what the Masters does. Great. They don't stick with one thing. They're always introducing new food. They got a candy bar this year. I haven't tried it yet, but I'll try it out and let you guys know how it is.

[PFT Commenter]

They're making their own candy bar.

[Big Cat]

Back up. You can't just go, how did you

[Shane Bacon]

not leave a new food item?

[Big Cat]

Candy bar.

[Shane Bacon]

They made a candy food Item called candy bar.

[Big Cat]

It's called candy bar. It's a candy bar?

[Shane Bacon]

No, no, no. It's called candy bar. That's the name of it. Candy bar.

[Big Cat]

But is it a candy bar?

[Shane Bacon]

Candy bar bar.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Candy bar named candy bar.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Shane Bacon]

So. So here's what I'll do.

[PFT Commenter]

How come nobody thought of that before now?

[Shane Bacon]

I mean, you know, I mean, the.

[Big Cat]

The.

[Shane Bacon]

The. I think the. The peach ice cream sandwich is such a. Such a winner every year that they don't lean heavily into the. The sweets. But I'll see if these things can ship, and if so, I'll. I'll grab a few and ship them to the fellas, and you guys can let me know how the candy bar tastes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it would be amazing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's dark chocolate. I don't like dark chocolate. Oh, dark milk chocolate blended with caramel rice crisp and hazelnut.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't.

[Shane Bacon]

You don't like milk chocolate?

[Big Cat]

You know, dark.

[Shane Bacon]

I don't like dark chocolate.

[Big Cat]

I said dark chocolate. Dark chocolate. I don't like. I like milk chocolate.

[Shane Bacon]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So I like dark chocolate.

[Shane Bacon]

And you eat dark chocolate, though.

[Big Cat]

Even I will eat it. I'm not saying I'm not going to eat it, but I just don't.

[PFT Commenter]

It's basically dark chocolate will, like, cure you of a heart attack. Yeah, it's super healthy.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah, it's very healthy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So we had a candy bar.

[Shane Bacon]

No Nome.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw that the gnome was being sold for like $10,000 on eBay Bay. So my thought was that the popularity

[Shane Bacon]

of these things is wild.

[PFT Commenter]

My. My theory was that the. The fine people at Augusta national saw people freaking out over this gnome so much, and they said, let's. This is a bit much for Augusta National. People are acting like wild animals for these things. It's too popular, so we're going to take it away.

[Shane Bacon]

I think. I think it blew up. I will say that the. Did you guys see the umbrella? Like, comes off and you can adjust it for the 20, 26 iteration of the gnome. Yeah, that's attention to detail. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think you can only get one this year as well. I think that's. That's a new rule. So they're obviously kind of. They understand the popularity. Listen, they've got their finger on the polls with. With what's going on in the merch area.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, Hank, I'm sure you've got some questions. Yeah, I was just going to ask

[Hank]

about out the lefties and you and you talked about auction a Little bit. But, but between him, Bobby Mack, Harmon, Matt McCarty, I don't know, Bubba Bubba and Mike Weir I think are the other ones. What other Bob. Bobby Mack was my, is a, is a dark horse that I'm looking at. Does he have a path?

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah, I think, I think he definitely does. I mean, I think he's one of those guys coming off his best major season of his career. A couple top tens came close, obviously at Oakmont. When you look at players that play well at Oakmont, typically similar players that play well at Augusta. And Bobby Mack has been a guy that, I think in tougher conditions he seems to shine. So. So I think Bobby Mack is a really great sleeper pick. Hank, I've said a lot of compliments to you today. I probably need to insult you as I get off the show. I like Matt McCarty as well. You know, Matt played great last season, first Masters. For him, I think it's a golf course he likes a lot. I've talked to him a bit about Augusta and how much he kind of fell in love with the place. I mean, it's easy to love the golf course, but as a player, I think sometimes it takes a little bit of time to understand it. And he was, you know, near the top of the leaderboard on Saturday. Had a chance to, to really get himself in contention. He missed out on the auto invite last year by one shot and then plays his way into it this year. So I like McCarty as well. I'd say, I'd say if you went auxay, Bobby Mack, Matt McCarty like a three play in terms of one of those guys winning, I think you'd probably get good value on that. And I like all three of those guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Nice.

[Big Cat]

Good question, Hank. Any other questions? Do you have something else for Hank?

[Shane Bacon]

I mean, just, I just, I mean, I love, I like Hank a lot.

[Big Cat]

Lefty Lockwood, do you hear? Here's a question.

[Shane Bacon]

So are we lefty 100% now, Hank or no question.

[Big Cat]

Good question. Great question.

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean mentally, yes.

[Big Cat]

So you'll be putting lefty?

[Hank]

I will never. I am, I am swinging left handed clubs and a right handed putter. So I'm not 100.

[Shane Bacon]

My dad did that for a while. The other way my dad went righty golf or lefty putter for a while. Didn't work out great for him.

[Big Cat]

Him.

[Hank]

Why?

[Big Cat]

The putting lefty, the putting righty, it

[Hank]

just doesn't like when I switch, when I, when I switch to swinging lefty, that felt natural kind of from the beginning, putting never felt Natural. It doesn't feel natural at all. And I. I just, like, I don't see the vision long term of switching to lefty. Like, it just feels very weird in the opposite of the way that, like, swinging lefty feels pretty natural and. And putting ready.

[Shane Bacon]

It's not power as a lefty golfer. Sounds like the power. That's the hardest thing when you switch.

[Hank]

It's way stronger. Like, I hit it farther.

[Shane Bacon]

Really?

[Hank]

Yeah. Since the beginning.

[Shane Bacon]

Wow. Interesting.

[Big Cat]

Well, he didn't hit that far as a right.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't know how to move his hips when he was hitting right handed. He's unlocked.

[Shane Bacon]

If you talk to, like, have you talked to, like, Tron Carter at. No. Laying up about this?

[Hank]

No, I've seen. I've watched his videos. Like, I watched his videos in some of the. Did he do this, the podcast, Cass?

[PFT Commenter]

He did, yeah.

[Hank]

He did it for, like, a year. He's really the only one. Like, I've done a year. I've done a lot of research, and he's pretty much the only person who's, like, done something similar.

[Big Cat]

He. How'd it go for him?

[Shane Bacon]

Well, there was a guy named Mao Grady. There was a Mac. Guy named Mac o' Grady back in the day that tried to apply to qualify for the US Open as a righty and a lefty. I think he tried to apply as a lefty as, like, Mac O' Grady 2, and the USGA wouldn't allow him. But the rumor was he was an incredible lefty golfer, obviously was a very, very good righty golfer. And then Vijay, apparently is a scratch golfer as a lefty. So there have been people that can dip there. I mean, obviously pro golfers can dip their toe in it, but in terms of the. The everyday man. Yeah. I mean, there's not a lot of guys that will fully commit to the opposite side.

[Big Cat]

You got this, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to fully commit as a man, though, to the opposite side.

[Big Cat]

Including starting this week with our mini golf tournament. I don't.

[Hank]

I'm not putting lefty. I don't know what to tell you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you're not fully committed, so. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

As a man. You're a boy.

[Hank]

That's fine.

[Big Cat]

Lots of people. There's so many people that do that

[Hank]

putt the opposite way.

[Shane Bacon]

Boys.

[Big Cat]

A lot of little boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Boys are fine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

Now. Yeah, Now, Hank, has there been any thought to the Nota Bay thing where you have the bullseye putter and you putt lefty and righty, depending on how the putt breaks there?

[Hank]

Not that many not, not that. No, I, I, no, there hasn't. Sorry, I'm stuck on pft.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Pft just said he's attracted a little.

[PFT Commenter]

Did not say that. I, I said it's fine.

[Big Cat]

Boys are fine.

[PFT Commenter]

I was saying it's fine to be a boy like Hank and not a man like us.

[Hank]

And then he said, boys. Boys are great.

[Big Cat]

No, he said little boys are fine.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I didn't say. I never said little. I don't think. Yeah, I think I just said boys are fine. It didn't sound good. I'm not here to argue in favor of saying boys are fine. You should not say that. But I didn't say little boys are great.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so you're just saying little is the.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm saying that Hank is being a little boy. And that's okay.

[Hank]

It's fallen.

[PFT Commenter]

It's okay.

[Shane Bacon]

Have you guys ever been to the Masters? Have any of you guys been to the Masters before?

[Big Cat]

No. I got to go.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. I don't think they would appreciate this type of conversation.

[Big Cat]

No, the problem is we do our mini golf tournament the week of the mass. We, I do want to go. We, we have to. One year. Just say it. We're going and do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I, I would like to go. But also, it's. I don't know that they let us.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what that means.

[PFT Commenter]

We've said a lot of things.

[Big Cat]

No, they'd let us.

[Shane Bacon]

I mean, but you guys are also, like, you love, you love the golf tournament. You guys are golf fans. I mean, Hank's, like, the biggest golfer I know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

By far.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I have a question for you, Shane. What would happen?

[Hank]

Literally cover golf? Shane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, if, if, if. Hypothetically.

[Shane Bacon]

Fair enough.

[PFT Commenter]

A guy that's, like, favored to win the tournament. What if he slept in and missed his tee time on Thursday?

[Shane Bacon]

I mean, I mean, Dunzo.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it. Immediately.

[Shane Bacon]

If you're one minute late.

[PFT Commenter]

One minute late. Disqualified for the entire day, Entire weekend.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah, for the entire, for the entire tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

You miss your tee time. I mean, that was the whole Ryder cup thing with Rory where he got the police escort and was rushed into his tee time. I mean, if you, if you miss a tee time, it is. You're done. You're done for that tournament.

[Big Cat]

Wow, that's crazy. All right, Shane, I got one last question for you. Rollback question. Rho, B, A, C, K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take I think they actually have the Azalea collection right now on roback, so. Go roback.com said it's golden right now. Last question for you. Have you ever won the media raffle to play?

[Shane Bacon]

No, I have not.

[Big Cat]

Have you entered every year?

[Shane Bacon]

I. I haven't in the last few years, but early in my, like, writing blogging days, back in the. In the blogging era, I would enter, but no, never. No, I never got the tap.

[Big Cat]

Have you. At this point, did you enter this year?

[Shane Bacon]

No, I have not.

[Big Cat]

Oh, come on. Get yourself in there. I didn't.

[Shane Bacon]

I didn't. I didn't even bring my sticks down. That's. I know that's sad to say, but this is a busy time of year for me. I've got two little kids, you know, like, I mean, my wife called me today. Kids got pink eye already. Like, oh, an extra day. Even with this on the. On the horizon, it's like I. I need to get back and. And be a human in the household.

[Big Cat]

So that's fair.

[Shane Bacon]

As much as I. I'd love to. To get involved, I feel like that's. I. I've learned. Big cat, even if you're in the golf space, telling your partner that you're staying somewhere to play golf doesn't. Doesn't play well, so.

[Big Cat]

Facts. Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

And I learned that that's not a. Doesn't go over.

[Big Cat]

I just love the media lottery. Just when someone wins who's, like, never golfed and everyone gets so upset, it's like, well, that was the point of the lottery.

[Shane Bacon]

Like, you.

[Big Cat]

You go in the lottery, and if you win it, you get the lottery. Like, you can't be mad at someone for winning it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's awesome.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah. And there's a. There's a second lottery this year, I believe. The new course that they just opened, the. The municipal course here, I believe it's called the Patch. There's a second lottery for players, for media to get an opportunity to play that. And I think those have already. The names have already been announced, and. And they're saying there's going to be no kind of overlap, if you will, but it'll be interesting to see if somebody gets both, you know, gets the double dip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And another big story, maybe bigger than the Masters tournament itself, is Wednesday. Will Tommy Fleetwood's son be able to clear the water this year?

[Max Homa]

Year.

[Shane Bacon]

It's a great question. You got to get the quote right. I mean, you got to get the mic in front of him. Just have him part of the broadcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, he is. He is a quote machine.

[Big Cat]

He's got to get over.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he might be a couple years away.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's got it.

[PFT Commenter]

You think so this year?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

When is Charlie woods going to play?

[Shane Bacon]

So what, is he going to college now? I mean, you know, I mean, he wins. Win a U.S. amateur, make a championship of U.S. amateur could get him in. So know, let's say over under four and a half years, maybe. It's probably your assessment.

[Big Cat]

Easy.

[Max Homa]

Is he.

[Big Cat]

Is he on track to be just a pro in your, like, people talking about it or.

[Shane Bacon]

No, I mean, it's, It's. It's hard to say. On track to be a pro. He's a really, really, really good junior golfer, obviously getting an opportunity to go play at a very good school. And he's the one AJGA tournaments, you know, I mean, the AJGA is the PGA Tour junior golf, and that's where the elite of the elite compete and play. And winning AJGA tournaments is a great sign. I mean, dominating them, obviously is a better sign. I mean, guys, you know, I do the Korn Ferry Tour, you know, all year long, and you go through, like, every KFT player's bio, and they're like, ajg, AJGA Player of the Year won five times in college. Right. I mean, all these guys, right, are absolute studs and their respective areas of the world. But, I mean, I think he's on a great trajectory to be a very good golfer. I mean, to be a pro is another sign. And who knows what a pro means? You could play Corn Ferry Tour golf, mini tour, you could pop up and down to the PGA Tour. But I definitely am very impressed with his ability to play, considering the weight on his shoulders of his name. And I think he's got a great kind of mindset about it. Like, he even, you know, he finished last at the Invitational, which is the biggest junior tournament in golf at Sage Valley. And I love the post he wrote where he was congratulating his teammates on winning it, saying how. How pumped he was to get the invite and obviously didn't play great. So, I don't know. I mean, I'd love to see him play it. I mean, obviously, the, the weight of it is going to be heavy, but I love that he's kind of committed to this and he's going to go play college golf.

[PFT Commenter]

And what's the deal with the. The amateurs that can regain their amateur status? How does that work? Because I read about a couple guys this year where, like, you can be A pro. And then you can say, psych. I'm not good enough to be a pro, so I'd rather just play as an amateur. That guy's from Chicago.

[Big Cat]

Pro.

[Shane Bacon]

All right, so, so, so let me, let me say this, I need to preface this by saying this. I played pro golf now poorly, but I played mini tour golf for two or three years back in my, my twenties in Arizona. So I actually had to go through the process of getting my amateur status back. And it took me a number of years to do it. I mean, I didn't, I didn't make any money as a pro. So it wasn't like I, you know, was some PJ Tour winner, but they had. The USGA has made it easier to get your status back. It's basically like a six month to a year process of asking for reinstatement and committing to playing amateur golf. But if you look at the, like, for instance, the USGA Mid Am, which if you win that event, you get an invite into the Masters, that is a ton of players that were pro golfers that are now back to playing amateur golf. So it's a little iffy, if you will. I wish the process was a little bit longer. I wish it was a couple years still to get your amateur status back. But it is definitely making amateur golf a lot more competitive, especially like the Mid Am golf life where you're playing Wing Foot and Pine Valley and Seminole and all these places that have these elite, elite Mid Am golf tournaments there.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you have to do to prove that you're, you're an amateur now? You have to be like, hey, I'm, I'm not as good as I thought that I was. Like, you have to post scores that aren't that great.

[Shane Bacon]

I think it's more money earning. I think it's more like I'm not earning money now, now, and I'm committing to not earning money going forward. I think that's a little bit more of, of that space and taking a time break between playing pro golf and then playing amateur golf. But like I said, that window is a lot shorter now than it used to be.

[Hank]

No, there's a guy in the Masters this year that won the Mid Am that's like from Illinois, that's a real estate agent. He's like 40 years old.

[Big Cat]

That's sick. And he saw this?

[Hank]

Yeah, he was, he kind of did

[Shane Bacon]

a sim so good.

[Big Cat]

And yeah, he doesn't eat. Yeah, great story.

[Hank]

The guy does not look like a golfer.

[Big Cat]

No, I saw nothing about him is

[Hank]

like, what looks Like a guy that's playing in the Masters. Yeah, I'm a real estate agent.

[PFT Commenter]

Basketball.

[Hank]

Yeah. I put my clubs away for four months a year and like. But I think it was a similar thing where he was a pro very. A long time ago, didn't make any money and now he's just like a real estate agent that's sick at golf.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Shane Bacon]

Brandon Holtz is his name, I believe. Yeah. He won one one in true. True north or true country club Club this past season in the. In the mid am. Yeah. Played college basketball, I believe, and then got into golf. And obviously that was kind of the outlet for competitiveness, which I still find amazing that people can. Like Steph Curry, that's like a scratch golfer and it shot, you know, under par in a professional event. I find the crossover stuff is something maybe we don't celebrate enough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

When guys are able to be relatively elite at something else outside of what they grew up playing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Shane, you're the best. We love having you on. Thank you. Also, incredible job giving us those holes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We really appreciate it and have a great Masters week and we look forward to talking to you for the rest of the major tournaments. So we'll, we'll talk to you in a month

[Shane Bacon]

anytime. Love you boys.

[Big Cat]

Thanks, Shane.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

I love the Buffalo ones. I eat them all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Breath.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest on a very, very special week, and he's our very good friend. It is Max Homa Masters week. Max, we're pumped up. I'm sure you're pumped up. Up. How are you feeling mentally ready to go? Are you. Are we gonna. Are we gonna win this thing? We might win this thing.

[Max Homa]

I. I say we shock the world and win the thing. I've been thinking a lot about it. I feel like. I feel like not winning is less fun than winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

So I'm kind of just gonna go for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what you should do? You should be like, michigan basketball, shock the world. I don't know if you saw.

[Max Homa]

I saw shot.

[PFT Commenter]

They shocked.

[Max Homa]

They shocked everybody.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Let's shock. Let's.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's.

[Max Homa]

A team with a massive nil, who was the best team all year, won. And I was utterly shocked.

[PFT Commenter]

Nobody believed in him. It was just.

[Max Homa]

It's amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

The nine starters in that room, they're all we got.

[Max Homa]

I wonder if they'll still be talking about this in a decade when they're all first team, all NBA, saying, man, remember when we shocked the world championship?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I don't want to sound like a stalker or anything, but. But the Masters now has a new feature on the app where you can watch somebody's range time. Does that feel like an invasion of privacy? Because I. I went and I. I found the balls that you hit, and I could see every shot that you hit today. And I felt. I felt dirty doing that. Like. Like I shouldn't. I shouldn't know. There's some things that guys just shouldn't know about other guys. And to me, like, the range session seems sacrosanct. I don't. I don't know if you give any thought to that.

[Max Homa]

It does a little. Now that I know. Like, now that we know that it happens because they do it somewhere else as well, I think maybe the players. But you start to worry a bit about your spreads. Like, if you just hit, like, one stinker, you're like, ah, that's gonna look like an outlier. Like, the end of my practice today, my coach was having me, like, pick different targets. So, like, one was, like, very far left, one was very far right. And I was. In the back of my mind, I was thinking, I was like, some people are gonna think I'm sucking pretty bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we don't have access. Like, it's the guys that try to, like, break down quarterback film on Twitter, but they don't know what the playbook is. There was, There were a couple shots when you were hitting your driver. There's, like, those two channels that you can hit into.

[Max Homa]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

You were going down the middle. Sometimes I don't know if that was leaking right or if that was the target.

[Max Homa]

It was absolutely. That was the target. Okay, maybe not all the time. That's a lie. Maybe not all the time. But we had, like, three. Yeah, we went, like, right, fairway, middle fairway, left fairway a lot, and then tried to hit in the left two bunkers a few times. So that's what I'm saying, dude, I can't promise you that that the one you saw wasn't, wasn't a bad one. But, yes, we were hitting all over the yard. And now I am even more self conscious to know someone was seeing all this.

[Big Cat]

It's just. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just me. It's probably literally just me. No, there's a lot of sickos out there that I'm sure. Like, I was doing it just for the novelty of it, and I felt kind of dirty, and I was like, I, I, I closed my phone, like, real fast, and I put it across the room. I was like, icky. Yeah. I don't want to do that again. But it is. It does feel like it's too much information at times, but we should spin it.

[Big Cat]

It's, like, comforting. Like when, when you think you're alone,

[Max Homa]

your friends are there, my boys are there. See me hit a bad shot, you pour one out for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Thinking of me. That sounds actually kind of nice. I will say there's a. Some app my friends have, and I guess you can, like, every time you upload a golf score, they, like, share. And I didn't know anything about this, and my buddy Stephen was, like, telling me all about it, and, you know, they share their scores, and he's like, it's pretty creepy. Because, you know, every time someone golfs, like, Hank would have four a day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

And, but it was great because he showed me our buddy. I think it was Warner played like, whatever, post his score and shot in the 90s or whatever. So he didn't know I was with Steve. And I just text him, hey, dude, you suck at golf today. It was perfect. He's like, oh, Steven showed you my scores. Like, that felt icky to me. I, I, I shouldn't have been privy to that information.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just helping out your friends.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like big brothers everywhere. The surveillance state has infiltrated the Masters now, but, but it was, honestly, it was kind of interesting just to see, like, the different shots that guys were hitting to warm up.

[Shane Bacon]

But I think it's cool.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What is. How's the course look? I know the weather's gonna be beau week is. Does the course look any different to you?

[Max Homa]

It is, like, no, it doesn't look different. It's like, it's pretty dry. It's one of those things. Augusta likes to trick every, like, the players even into, like, this false sense of hope. And with the weather, I have a feeling that tomorrow will be a little bouncier. And then I think Thursday is going to be aggressively firm by the end of the day. They have a way of doing that, and they've gotten, like, very good weather for it. So I have a feeling they're kind of like, waiting, waiting, waiting. And then, you know, we. They close the course tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday afternoon, around, like, two or three, so nobody can see it really late. And I think that's when they start, like, sucking the water out of the ground.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And it's gonna be dry. I saw that. Like, it's perfect weather for the next four days. What is that? What does that do, like, in terms of your approach? Because I, I'm an idiot. I don't really understand golf. Like, the, Is it. It higher shots? Is it like having knowing that, like, you hit the green and it might roll off? Like, how do you approach that stuff?

[Max Homa]

I think angles start to matter way more when it's firm like that. Like, you look at holes like, we're gonna get real nerdy, but you look at holes like two. If you have, like, a left pin on two, you and you. Even if you can't get to the green, you gotta go, like, way right. So then when you pitch it across the green, you have a chance to stop the ball. Obviously, high is going to help. I mean, the reason, like, Rory and Scotty and Rom have Played so well there is. Because they are, you know, really obviously great golfers, but they hit the ball really hard and high, so that helps it stop. But I also just think in general, with the lack of wind, because the last year has been super windy. The lack of wind, I think, will make it. You'll see, like, a good, like, a spread of, like, who's playing really well and who's playing not well. Because you can't, you can almost fake it easier at this golf course when it's really hard because, like, nobody can play it well. So it's just really difficult.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

But when it's playing with, like, kind of the wind down, really good shots get rewarded way more. But with how firm it is, they better be really good shots. So I think you'd see, like, a lot of great iron players play well this week, just given how it's going to be a bit like target practice in a way, but, like, how it's got to be really, really sharp target practice.

[Big Cat]

Right. So we, we've had having you on before the Masters for, I think, since 2021, when I, when I asked the kind of mean question where I was like, can you win it?

[Max Homa]

Yeah, I wait for it every year.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, no. But this is. Let me land the plane here. That year you, you, you didn't make the cut. Then you finished 48th, then you finished 43rd. I feel like people don't give you enough credit. You finished third at the Masters.

[Max Homa]

Almost had it.

[Big Cat]

And last year you finished 12th. Like, does it feel like you have at least. Least figured out the course a little bit? Because this feels like everything I've read about the Masters, it's like you have to play it a few times before you can actually get good at it. And if you look at your career at the Masters, it feels like you have gotten to a point where you feel comfortable on this course and you're putting up really good scores and competing for first.

[Max Homa]

Yeah. I will say that my third was awesome, but last year I was playing like dog nuts coming into it, and I played awful here. But I like, definitely, to answer your question, think I, like, learned where to leave it and learn certain golf shots that you could take on and certain that I, I wasn't going to if I wasn't playing well. So last year's 12th was, like, significantly more shocking than the year before's third. So I do think that you figured out a little bit. It's, it's a, it is the. One of the most amazing golf courses I've Ever played. But it is goofy. Like it's, it's got like some crazy golf shots that you'd never hit in your life. So I do think that, like, getting some familiarity with it is good. But at the end of the day, like I said, when you're hitting those second shots in the greens, like, you just got to hit them good. So you can make all this think you want about how you got to know it and be comfortable and this and that, but there's just so certain golf shots that you just gotta execute on. It's hard as. But I do think that getting more comfy being here is helpful because it's a, it's an intimidating place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Walking around in green jackets that, you know, have billions of dollars.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Max Homa]

You know, it's just a wild spot.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And do you, do you have more confidence? I would assume this is the answer, but do you have more confidence going into this year knowing, like last year, like you said, like you, you were coming in a mess and you were able to fight your way through it and you fought your way through the whole year and like, I think everyone admires the hell out of it because you were very open about it. Like, I don't know where my golf game is right now and it feels like you're on the other end of that where it's. Does it feel like you have more confidence because you went through all of that?

[Max Homa]

Yeah, I think if you can blend like a bit of the strategy of when you're playing shitty that you, you can make something still work, work, plus playing a lot better if you can marry those two. Because I think sometimes I've talked to certain athletes about this, like when they have a warm up that's just like otherworldly. They're like some, A lot of those games they say they play like, because they're like almost like overly confident. So they take on everything. And they say that a lot of the times they're bad warm ups, you know, like in basketball, like, they'll get to their spot and like, be way more specific about what shots they're going to shoot and like ease their way into it. So I think when you blend those two, it works really well. So I do think that no one last year, year I played awful, but could still make a score. Could help this year when I won't play nearly as awful. But if I can keep those two minds like in the same brain, it could be good. Yeah. But I definitely, I mean, I think this golf course also just like very much Suits what I do well and. And is honestly pretty nice to me on the stuff I'm not so good at. So that part definitely gives me some confidence. I mean, you still gotta go out there and do it, you know, you're playing a lot of really good players, but I definitely think for four days, I could get. I could get warm and. And give myself a chance.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you ever been in the zone at Aug Pasta?

[Max Homa]

In the zone? Yeah. I think the year I got third, there was a bit there on Friday where it just felt like if I pulled the club back, I was going to hit it pretty close, and if I pulled my putter back, it was going to go in for a little bit there. So that was quite fun. Golf has a funny way of just smacking you right in the face about that, because I came out Saturday, it was a pretty good round, to be honest, but I made no birdie, 17 pars and a bogey. So, yeah, right when I thought I figured out the game kind of caught up to me a little bit. But, yeah, you. You do not take for granted those moments are in the zone. It's the greatest feeling in the world, especially in golf, when you typically just make bad swing after bad swing or lip out a putt or whatever. So it feels nice when the hole feels like a bucket.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I honestly think I would cry if you won the Masters. I think that's how emotional I would be. Oh, yeah.

[Max Homa]

I'll come on here and it will just. Just cry.

[PFT Commenter]

A big cry together. Yeah. Be like, Danny, just imagine. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe have to fly down there and, like, streak on the.

[Shane Bacon]

On the course.

[PFT Commenter]

If you. If you win the master, I might. I might get a private jet down to Augusta.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I think.

[Max Homa]

Come on down, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys. Meet you down there?

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I thought you're gonna. It said you were gonna get a max homo Masters champ tattoo because I might do that.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I probably would do that. Yeah. I might get a green jacket just tattooed on my body.

[Max Homa]

Same dude.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Max Homa]

There will be no limit of the dumb. I would do.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I was looking at. I was. I was looking at the holes because that's what you do once you hit the. Probably the vagina.

[Max Homa]

And you really needed Zach here because I've been playing in that question for him all day.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Zach's not in the booth, is he?

[Big Cat]

No, no, he's doing mini golf. We got guys qualifying for our Augusta. The mini golf. Yeah, it is actually Hanks Augusta, the mini golf tournament this week at Barstool hq.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a little tease. We'll get. We'll get Zach. Once he gets in the booth, you can try to get him.

[Max Homa]

If he's just somehow says Mouth, I'd be so happy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So I was looking at the 12th, because that's what you do when you turn 40. You get really into, like, the. The mowing report, and then you get into the. Obviously the. The hole placement from above, and then you just, like, do the flybys of all the holes and you visualize them. I was looking at the 12th hole.

[Big Cat]

Hole.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's. That seems like it's the ultimate. People think this hole over way too much. They think too hard.

[Max Homa]

I 100 agree.

[PFT Commenter]

And, like, have you. Have you changed how you approach that hole at all? Or is it, like, you know, going into the weekend, here's the shot I'm going to hit. No matter, like, you know, where the pin's going to be. Here's what I'm going to do. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[Max Homa]

I've changed how I think about that back right pin, which is the Sunday pin, because the year I. I had a chance, I made a really good par on 11, and Scotty missed the green, and he was gonna. I think I. He had a so. So chip, and I knew he was probably gonna make bogey, so I think I was going to be one back going after. After I teed off on 12. And I did the thing that you, you know, you hear about. You know, you aim over the middle of the left center, that front bunker, when you're being safe, and you just hit it in the middle of the green or whatever. And I hit this nine iron, and I'll never forget it. Right as I hit it, it was. Was just like one of those where I said, oh, man, I did it. Like, I was nervous. It was the shot you've seen a million times on tv, not go well. I was like, oh, I did it. And you just hear this groan from the crowd, and it flew a little too far, hit the hill, jumped up into the ivy, and I made double bogey.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Last year, I got to the same pin. I like to cut the ball. So back right pin's good for me. I got to that hole, I was. I needed to get top 12 to get back in this week. And I just remember, I was like, what am I so afraid of? Like, if anything fits me, it's this. So I was like, just aim a couple steps left of it and hit the nine. I. And I did it, and I hit it to you. Know, 12 or so feet. And I was like, that's how I'm playing this back right from now. Unless I got a five shot lead. I'm playing it like that because it was not. It didn't. It's like you're sometimes too passive. Now I understand why people do it, but at that point in time, it was just like, let's play the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you know, do we have the pairings yet? Do you know who you're pairing?

[Max Homa]

Yeah, I'm playing with someone. I don't know from a. I did. Okay, I'll move, I'll move your car. All right, they're here. All right. Tell Pete I'm talking to big Cat and pft. He, my friend Pete is coming in right now and he's the one who got me hooked on your guys podcast.

[Big Cat]

What's up, Pete?

[PFT Commenter]

How's it going, Pete?

[Big Cat]

Hell yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you're playing with.

[Max Homa]

I also block my wife with my car. I did get the babies to go to bed though, so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. D of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

You're playing with Nuki Kata Kata Oka and Carlos Ortiz.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, Carlos. Carlos plays on live We. I miss him so much. Carlos. Little Carito. He is my guy. I miss him. We had Q school together our first year, man. So it'll be fun. He is, he's the best. Dude is, he's just like a, he's like a bubbly person. So it's kind of nice to hang out with him for a while.

[Big Cat]

Do you like playing morning Thursday afternoon, Friday? I feel like that would be better because then Friday you kind of know where you stand. You're like, hey, here's, here's where the cut's going to be. I, I can go attack jacket.

[Max Homa]

I've danced back and forth. Hey, we're not thinking about the cut this year. Big cat.

[Big Cat]

No, I know. Jacket or bus?

[Max Homa]

Yes, we're jacket or bus? We're Sunday party.

[Big Cat]

I was going baby steps. I was like, you know, make the cut, then moving day, then Sunday. Yeah, yeah.

[Max Homa]

But, you know, I, I, I've danced back and forth. I think this week will be good to be early, late. Plus the fact that my late's really not very late. They gave me a two very middle tee times, so I think it'll be good. Typically late, the second day is harder in a major because they make the course like slowly fir. So morning, the second day is usually better, but both tea times are actually pretty solid. So I do, I like getting off early and like playing well in the morning typically. And Then you get to just, like, enjoy yourself for, you know, 15 hours instead of. Sometimes you play well, sometimes you play like in the afternoon, and then it's just like straight to bed and straight up and you're just like, I'm not even. I'm still not in a very good mood. Sometimes it's like. It's the same sound can be good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So a, after you play, if you play early in the morning on Thursday, what do you do for the rest of the day?

[Max Homa]

Oh, well, this week helps. I have all my friends here, so I'll go work out after and then probably practice a little bit. And then we come back and we just play married people games.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's good.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, you're. You're, you're. You're at 10 o' clock on Friday. You're good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Oh, yeah, it's not bad. 11 o'.

[Big Cat]

Clock. Oh, yeah. 11 o'.

[Max Homa]

Clock. 10 o' clock your time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Central time right now.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. What about, what about, like, on course meals? What are you having for breakfast on Thursday morning?

[Max Homa]

I'm an omelette guy. Omelette, potatoes, bacon, and then on the course. I don't do a good job eating on the course, but. Sounds amazing. I do love an uncrustable. Yeah, they're hard to beat. Hey, Pete. Hey, Leah. Sorry.

[Shane Bacon]

Pete.

[Big Cat]

What's up, dude?

[Max Homa]

Big Cat says what's up? Do you by any chance, Big Cat, if there's anybody in the world that would know this name? Name? Long Beach State 2013 makes March Madness. Casper Ware's on the team. Who else on the team? James Ennis. And there's a white dude my height named Peter Papa George. Do you by any chance know that name? Because Stucky does and he hates him.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. I was with Stuckey on Saturday. That was hilarious.

[Max Homa]

With Stucky on Saturday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. At the final, Stuck.

[Max Homa]

He once tweeted, he goes, you ever see a. Just a punchable face? That's Peter Papa George for me.

[Big Cat]

Dude, I love those teams because they would have the, the, the jerseys that just said the. Be him.

[Max Homa]

You're the beach. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

It's the greatest. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so he hoops. All right, wait, so when you're playing these married people games, are. Are people taking it easy on you? No.

[Max Homa]

God, no. We actually have had to start swat.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[Max Homa]

That's a good friend.

[Big Cat]

We got to let Max win this.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of the reason why everybody's there swapping.

[Max Homa]

We start swapping like partners because everyone gets a little too mad at each other. Yeah, I didn't really. I. I almost said just wives, but then I realized that sound sudden even when I said partners.

[Big Cat]

Partners.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you get the. You get the upside down pineapple. You start swapping pineapple.

[PFT Commenter]

You crack the garage door a little bit. Yes.

[Big Cat]

No, don't do that, Matt.

[Max Homa]

Do what?

[Big Cat]

We already addressed. We already addressed that. We already addressed that in the run of the show. Oh, this is good. I'm having fun. Oh, man.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I'm just excited to watch you.

[Big Cat]

Have you.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you hung out with anything? The fellas there? Like, who are. Who are the guys that you look to. To hang out with when you get to Augusta every year?

[Max Homa]

Justin and Jordan I play practicum with. I played practice on Monday. We're playing part three tomorrow together.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't win that.

[Max Homa]

And then. No, I know you're not supposed to win that. My son putts for me, so I'm immediately disqualified, so that's nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, what, you don't think that your son can do it?

[Max Homa]

No, they just disqualified because it's not me. But.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

No, also, he can't. He is liable for about a 42 putt. He's also obsessed with people in the water. He asked me every single hole if I'm gonna hit it in the water or the other person's gonna hit in the water. So, no, I won't win that at all. And then. Yeah, so. So the curse will. Will not be on me. I think now we officially have a chance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love it. Also, I was reading about Augusta today. Are you familiar with the. The 19th century hole?

[Max Homa]

Are you?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. De. Dead ser. It doesn't actually exist.

[Max Homa]

There's no way they really have a 19th hole there.

[PFT Commenter]

They were going to build one when they built the golf course, and it was going to. It was going to be like a 90 yard par three. That was in between, I want to say, the ninth hole and the 18th hole.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

And they. It was during the Great Depression, so they ran out of money and they didn't build it. And they kept saying, we're going to build it once we get our. Once we get our paper. Right, right. And then it became, like, so much of an institution that when they got their money and the economy was doing fine, they were like, yeah, you know what? I don't think that Augusta needs another paper.

[Max Homa]

Was too. Right. Yeah, it was too good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

The boys were like, you know, I'm just gonna pocket this.

[PFT Commenter]

It would have absolutely killed the vibe of Augusta.

[Max Homa]

That honestly really would not have been a good idea.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But just look at it. Next time you walk by, be like, oh, yeah, that's where the. That's the 19.

[Max Homa]

Don't tell Zach that, because I feel like if you say, ask my question, he's just gonna cop out and say the 19th.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, definitely. Do you.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

Do you ever eat the food at Augusta? Like the. You know, that's the thing, that pimento

[Max Homa]

cheese and all that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Do you ever had the chicken sandwich? I'm not a big cheese guy, so I skipped that. My friend Josh last year, who you guys made famous because he's the one who wanted to bring his Xbox to the house.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

He said a hundred people came up to him. We're like, are you. You know, are you Max's friend, the one that wanted to bring the video games? Yeah. You're an idiot. He's. I think he went through, like, 50 Ham and Jesus last year, and one wondered why his stomach hurt for like a month. I love that this guy worried that the tournament's over. Over stock to him and cheese. Because he's not here this year.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. Yeah. They, like, did all their calculations, and

[Max Homa]

now they're gonna have all these extras, 100 extra.

[Shane Bacon]

What happened?

[Max Homa]

They're not even gonna sniff it.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you tried the candy bar yet?

[Max Homa]

No. How do you know? I don't even know what that is.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Shane Bacon was on the show,

[Big Cat]

told us about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

And he would know. Yeah. He's gotten to go around, like, the grounds and see a bit more than I do.

[PFT Commenter]

A new menu item. This. This year.

[Big Cat]

I think you're okay.

[Max Homa]

I gotta go try it. The candy bar.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, the candy bar. Dark chocolate, crispy rice. Just magic. Apparently.

[Big Cat]

It's just a candy bar. They just named it a candy bar. It's pretty sick.

[Max Homa]

What?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'll give it a shot. It looks awesome.

[Max Homa]

I. I know that people love the pimento cheese. I kind of wish I like, like cheese to give it, like, a taste test, but.

[Big Cat]

Wait, you don't like cheese? Oh, I know what I was gonna ask you. Are you. Are you too tan?

[Max Homa]

I think I am. Yeah. I need to cool it.

[Big Cat]

I think you are too.

[Max Homa]

My head.

[Big Cat]

We were watching you the other day on the. So white on. On the whatever tournament. What was it last week? Were you in last year? Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you came across the screen. I was like, I. I think Max is too tan. It's just a tall by a Guy

[Max Homa]

today, and he goes. He goes. I could hear him talking to whoever he's with. He goes, man, he's got a nice base. I might need to stay inside for a. Need to play better so I can get three months off at the end of the year, and I just won't go outside for a month.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Save the skit.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, dude, Arizona. You guys are just there.

[Big Cat]

Dude.

[Max Homa]

It's just the size closer to me.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it gets nuts. Do you have the. Do you have the sock tan? Probably not, because you wear pants a lot.

[Max Homa]

No, I have a nasty sock tan. It's off. I got it. It's all bad, dude. It's terrible. And it doesn't help. I got the darkest and hairiest arms, so it makes it look even darker. It's bad. It's. It's terrible.

[Big Cat]

Her bowl. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, so. So what is the goal? Do you have a number in mind for Thursday?

[Max Homa]

Man, I think Something in the 60s would be great. So I'm say I'm taking. I think. I mean, dream world. You're looking like. Like mid to low 60s. But I think ideally, I would love to start with something with the six.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That's what I'm going for.

[PFT Commenter]

We can do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can absolutely keep the theme

[Max Homa]

of this podcast going. 69 would be a great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we could definitely do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what? I'll. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do a lottery ball right now, and that's what you're gonna score.

[Shane Bacon]

Do you.

[Big Cat]

Do you. Do you agree to this?

[Max Homa]

I would love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

This is a rush.

[Big Cat]

Is shaking his head.

[PFT Commenter]

Nobo. I don't think anybody's ever shot their lottery ball. It's never happened.

[Big Cat]

If we get, like, a nice, like, 60.

[Max Homa]

Tug had to have shot a 99 at some point.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true. Imagine we got, like, 64, right?

[Max Homa]

God, I'm now nervous. Nervous. If it's a 59, I'm winning.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, since you have the early tee time on Thursday, what's your protocol for how many alarms you set?

[Max Homa]

I usually set two. I've never really needed the second one, but I get real anal. Actually, for the master, I might set three.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would be nervous about that.

[Max Homa]

Oh, yeah. It's the one thing I just can't have happen. I've had nightmares about that.

[Big Cat]

We could have Zach call you if you need him to. That actually would be why you miss.

[PFT Commenter]

You miss.

[Max Homa]

Maybe I'll go with the bomb alone.

[PFT Commenter]

Another number yeah, that one was a practice one.

[Max Homa]

What was it? What was it?

[Big Cat]

That was practice round, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Max will say it after you hang up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it was a practice.

[PFT Commenter]

So don't go back and listen.

[Max Homa]

Tell me after.

[Big Cat]

It was a practice. That was the practice. You always got to do one practice.

[Max Homa]

Everyone knows everybody. Yeah. You go, Parks Rounds it a one. All right. Are we over two?

[Big Cat]

We're not doing the lottery ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it broke. The machine broke.

[Big Cat]

Y. Yep. We're not doing the lot.

[Max Homa]

Start it. What. What number did it start with?

[Big Cat]

The first one was a seven. The second was an eight.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, I'll take it.

[Max Homa]

I was scared. It was a nine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right.

[Max Homa]

Super hard.

[Big Cat]

It was actually. I think I read it wrong. It was a 57. That's what it was. It was 57.

[Max Homa]

We could. We could climb back from a 75.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, we 57.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think a 75. Killer kills you.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, it doesn't kill me. I'm still in the fight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's 57. That's fine. That's what? That's what? Imagine if you put up a 57.

[Max Homa]

Could you imagine you might just have to fly down Thursday.

[Big Cat]

57.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. Yeah. If you broke six.

[Max Homa]

I honestly think I might be too. It might be too much.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that a thing? Like, if you. If you shoot, like, the round of your life in a tournament, is it super rare to follow it up with another good round?

[Max Homa]

Yeah. Okay, so that gets talked about a lot in, like, the golf thing. It's like they always say. Say, you know, these, like, stuffy, you know, golf commentators, you know, it's so hard to back up a really good round with a really good round. And I always think. I mean, like, yeah, sure, like, statistically, but also, it's just. You had a really good round. Of course, it's hard to do that again, like.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Max Homa]

That's why it's considered really good. It's like if somebody scores, you know, 50 points in a. In a football game the next week, they don't. It's like, God, they just can't seem to keep it together. It's like. No, that was why we're so enamored

[Big Cat]

by the 50 points.

[Max Homa]

Points the game before, because it's really good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

So, yeah, that's why I will say that the. The hardest thing I've done, winning a golf tournament is in college, but I shot a really low round the first day, and we had three more, and everyone's, like, congratulating you after the round. Like, you won, and you're like, this would just be way worse if I lose now, so can I just, like, can you leave me alone and wait till, you know, Sunday so that it gets kind of hard? But it's so uncommon for somebody to win wire to wire in golf, so. So not to say I wouldn't take a 57. I don't want to put that out there. I'll absolutely try to win wire to wire at 57.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's do a 57.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like. ANNOUNCER getting mad at. At Bam. Out of bio for not scoring 84 points the next night.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, back it up. What's going on? Are you out celebrating?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. One hit Wonder. Bam.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, Max, I got one last question for you. Roback question. Rho, B, A, C, K dot com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, 20 take. First of all, thank you for coming on. I really. It really does mean a lot.

[Max Homa]

Favorite tradition.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it's like you're. You're in the Masters week, and you still fuck around with us, and it's. It's very, very cool of you. I have one request, and I don't know if you can do it, but. Can. Can. Can you. Can you do one of those skip the ball off the water shots tomorrow?

[Max Homa]

Yeah, I'll do it tomorrow. Play the back nine super early. So I'll do it.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Like the par three. Like, I, I. Those are the coolest shots ever. Yeah.

[Max Homa]

They're so sick. That's so fun. I've only hit the green once. Rom. Made a hole in one once with it, which is. That's got to be, like, top five ever golf shot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Doesn't get enough run, but, yeah, I'll. I'll do it tomorrow. I got to figure out. Bones told me that you got to take a six iron. It needs to slam into the water right in front of you and then take a mega big bounce. So it only needs, like, two more to climb the hill. So I'm going for that tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Will you do you see the caddy

[Max Homa]

missed the whole water and hit a fan today. Or, you know, crowd today.

[PFT Commenter]

A page Patron.

[Big Cat]

A patron.

[Max Homa]

Good job.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll bleep that out. We'll edit that for you.

[Max Homa]

Dude, don't get me in trouble.

[PFT Commenter]

If you. If you get a hole in one tomorrow, you gotta jump at the lake when you skip it across.

[Max Homa]

Oh, if I skip.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, but we have the part three contest, which is very lucrative for me with the group. I'm in if I can make a one. So as much as tomorrow's practice around Skip matters a lot. The nine holes with Justin and Jordan means a whole lot more.

[Shane Bacon]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That'll be a good one.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Max Homa]

I'm terrified every time somebody it.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, Max, you're the best. Best of luck. We're rooting for you. Everyone's rooting for you. Let's go. Let's go do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go, Max.

[Big Cat]

Just go do it.

[Max Homa]

Remember, let's do it. I'll see you guys Sunday night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will.

[Shane Bacon]

Yeah, you will.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll bring the beers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you will. We'll get hammers. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, I think Zach is still playing mini golf right now, but he says that he loves you and misses you.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, I love Zach, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Max Homa]

We had a. We had. By the way, before I go for Zach, we had a. The guys in the locker room day had a more wheels or more doors debate, and I almost brought up the trump or something.

[Big Cat]

You should have. Maybe I'll do, like, get out of here, dude.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, he said Tomorrow they're doing MJ or LeBron to get everybody pissed off.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. That's. You gotta be Kobe guy.

[Max Homa]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll throw that in the. In the mix.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe steer clear of Vijay Singh's goatee because he looks like he might be a super villain.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if you've seen that thing. It's terrifying.

[Big Cat]

Pretty sick.

[Max Homa]

It's strong.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Sick.

[Big Cat]

All right, see you, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Bye, Max.

[Max Homa]

Love you guys.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, see the flawless briefcase.

[Hank]

We're looking for. Our rookie QBs. PFT is looking for a Jaden.

[PFT Commenter]

We got a Jaden.

[Shane Bacon]

Last time.

[Hank]

I'm looking for a Drake. Mitch May. Big cat's looking for a Caleb Williams. Max is looking for a nine. And you can download whatnot today. Get free shipping on your first order and join in on whatnot Card Show 8, the biggest card show on Earth from April 30 to May 3. That's WH a T n o t download now. Huge moment.

[Big Cat]

A flawless pack. Is that right, Max? I'm taking out the flawless pack.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

The pack first. Open the pack first. Okay. Okay. And I'm going to go through this real quick. Let's see what we have. Ooh, we have a Jim Kelly with a jersey. That's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

Zach, you go sleeve. Sleeve it. Oh, we got a dual diamond. Don't stand in front, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Here, Zach.

[Max Homa]

You're right in the middle of the camera.

[Big Cat]

Here you go.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got it.

[Big Cat]

Okay. A dual diamond. Now, this one will be interesting because. Because I think there's someone on our team that would want this one. It is a Justin Herbert. Quinton Johnston.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, memes.

[Big Cat]

Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

You do love Justin.

[Big Cat]

We'll get that to you. That's got their jerseys on it. Andre Tippet. We got Isaac Bruce. These are cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Billy Tibbets.

[Hank]

Isaac Tippett.

[Big Cat]

Andre Tippett.

[Hank]

Andre Tippet.

[Big Cat]

Isaac Bruce. These are cool cards. They have some hefty to him. DeMarcus Ware.

[PFT Commenter]

Both.

[Big Cat]

Both jerseys. Broncos and Cowboys. We've got Xavier Leggette and, ooh, this one's rare because he's no longer on the team. Jalen Waddle. This is a sick card. They all have their jerseys in there. All right, and then do I pull out the other ones?

[Max Homa]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Okay. There is a. Wow, this one's sick.

[PFT Commenter]

It's intense.

[Big Cat]

Derrick Henry.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, tractor sito.

[Hank]

Tractor sita.

[Big Cat]

Devin Singletary. Devin Singletary. And then finally, Memes. Another huge get for Memes. Memes. We've got puna. A flawless 6 out of 10. Justin Herbert for Memes.

[Max Homa]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I love Justin Herbert. Wow, you're in luck.

[Big Cat]

Incredible card. Okay, thank you to whatnot.

[Hank]

Thank you to whatnot. Love whatnot.

[PFT Commenter]

Both up. Memes bolt up.

[Big Cat]

All right, Zach, you want to take the case? Sleeve the cards. Take the case. Great work, Zach. Okay, he's taking them. Here's this box. And then let's finish off with FAQs. Oh, by the way, before we get to FAQs, tune into the barstool mini golf. Golf, which will be Wednesday. So today that you're listening to this right after the yak. We're gonna start around 223 0. We're doing two rounds, Ryder cup style. The old heads in the offices versus the young guys in the office.

[Hank]

And girls.

[Big Cat]

And girls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Young team looks stacked right now.

[Hank]

Young team looks that doesn't even have a team right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they got almost an embarrassment of riches to choose from.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So we'll be doing that and then tune in. Thursday night will be the sing for the match at 7pm Central. And it's Gonna be a cash prize. It's gonna be awesome. We also are doing a special Stella Blue hole, where every $5,000 we sell in Stella Blue Coffee, you can buy it on Stella blue coffee.com or on Amazon. Try the new ready to drink cans. Every 5,000 we sell, I'm gonna give away $300 to the chat. And then there also will be. The Stella Blue Hole will light up. And if you get a hole in one, you get 200 cash. That's five for people in the office.

[PFT Commenter]

That rocks.

[Big Cat]

So pretty cool. So go to Sell Blue Coffee and buy it or on Amazon and let's get some money going in the chat.

[Hank]

Stop ignoring the obvious question. Is nudity on the table now that you're off of YouTube and on Netflix?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's actually a good question.

[Big Cat]

I didn't think about that.

[Hank]

We have a meeting. We can ask. We can find out.

[Big Cat]

Definitely.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna get to the bottom of that for you. I'm going to.

[Big Cat]

Wow, man. Zach nude. Nude Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

New Zach.

[Big Cat]

Dude. Zach in the booth.

[PFT Commenter]

We could do like a subathon.

[Big Cat]

Nude Zach in the booth.

[Hank]

Are you for the live show?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach.

[Hank]

No phones. We just sit naked.

[Big Cat]

Nude Zach in the booth.

[PFT Commenter]

Full nude Guys being nudes. Chris in the booth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah,

[PFT Commenter]

full new. That you guys don't want. No.

[Big Cat]

I mean, well, no, we can't see. See it because you're the angle we're at. We're not.

[PFT Commenter]

Think about.

[Big Cat]

People at home will see everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Sabrina would see everything.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

Think about that.

[Big Cat]

So we're gonna put a disclaimer at

[PFT Commenter]

the top of this.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay.

[Hank]

Hey, pmt. What was the biggest disagreement off air you guys ever got into? And how Is it resolved? P.S. let Hank exist by the book.

[Big Cat]

But it was the dip spit.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably the dip spit. The mystery dips. The dips that will never get to the bottom.

[Big Cat]

Who had that dip spit?

[PFT Commenter]

It's one of those unknowable riddles.

[Hank]

Yeah. We're on the air so much that, like, not that there's not that many disagreements that happen off air.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. You know what I actually think kind of just has.

[Big Cat]

They happen on air as all.

[Hank]

Like, if you've heard it, they happen on air. They bleed off air. And then.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think what. What resolve on it typically would happen would be like, if we start to get into it, there's somebody that shows up with a camera.

[Big Cat]

It. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If they hear an argument and then it becomes something that exists in content. Correct. And it kind of. It honestly kind of helps that way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And it's all, it's always like, I think the, the one thing that saves us is that everything's always like with a veil of we're just around. So it's like, oh, is this serious? No, we're just around. It's kind of mental torture for all of us. Yeah, it's just a lot of like

[Hank]

the worst it gets is just, just like serious passive aggression.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's just mental torture constantly.

[Hank]

Yeah, that was on air.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, it was.

[Hank]

How much time like legitimate planning goes into what you guys talk about with each show and all. Are all of you collaborating on this at once? I love how seemingly off topic you guys can get with Breaking Moves or promoting Johnny Fanta as the next era for unc. Long time listen to the show. Thank you for all giving me some joy and laughter even on the slowest of days is Bing bong hanky and go Birds. Max.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we've got, we've got a Google Doc that we use and we start prepping at about 6:30 every morning and Zach does like the topics that we want to get into. So if we want to get on like a 10 minute discussion about if you can dunk a free throw, he'll write that in there. We'll bounce back and forth, do a little bit of improv.

[Big Cat]

Then don't forget there's the, the rehearsal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we do table.

[Big Cat]

We do, we do a two hour

[PFT Commenter]

rehearsal before every show and then we have our stand ins that come in. They get the lessons lighting. So we do like one run through of the show with our stand ins so we can get everything just right on camera. And yeah, then we kind of come out at about 11am and it usually takes about three takes through the show and we stitch together the final product using only the best things.

[Big Cat]

It's like snl. The minute we finish a show, we have to start prepping for the next one. We literally don't do that. The idiot jazz does. Job a great come from scripts.

[PFT Commenter]

I think all of us, we, we know what we're going to talk about because we know what's happening in the sports calendar. We all kind of know the same sports topics that are going to be interesting for all of us and then just sit down like do whatever your hot seat, cool throne is going to be.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

PFD gave me homework last week. What was the homework that I had to read?

[PFT Commenter]

The full, the full Jaylen Herz Herz article.

[Big Cat]

Oh, did you make it? No.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't do it.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you?

[Big Cat]

Hey, did you get blocked by Jeremy F $? No. Really? I don't think so. Send him another one. No, I already did that. Give him another. You. Just so you know. You again, buddy. I already. I already did it.

[Shane Bacon]

And it got.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so good. Zach, did you do your homework from a couple weeks ago? Were you talking about taking notes on the same article? No. When. That was one assignment.

[Shane Bacon]

We talking laser tag?

[PFT Commenter]

No. When. When Trump put out the executive order for how to solve college sports.

[Big Cat]

Sports.

[PFT Commenter]

Because we didn't pay any attention to what that was going to be. When Trump put out the executive. Yeah, he did an executive order for fixing college sports. We can push that. We can push that.

[Big Cat]

I don't think he fixed it off.

[PFT Commenter]

That'll be post masters. Don't stress out.

[Hank]

Don't.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to focus on golf this week.

[Big Cat]

Don't stress, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think he fixed it though, because any. Isn't everybody staying so that the transporter broke Basketball. No, I think. I think he fixed everything. I think it's all good. He may have. I think it's all great.

[Shane Bacon]

Damn.

[Big Cat]

21 retweets on the get Fox. That was also. That was. That was basically a private message. Also the four bookmarks. Who's coming back to that one? People could use that.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That is a bonk.

[PFT Commenter]

He probably. Yeah, he. Jeremy Fowler might have bookmarked it. I'll remember this.

[Hank]

All right, last one. I got a question for PFT and Big Cat. Which of these do you guys enjoy more? A prime Hank show of passive aggressiveness and snarky comments or an all time Max crash out?

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't make me choose.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, choosing your favorite children.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it's the best when it happens at the same time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true.

[PFT Commenter]

And that. Well, it's the best once a year we get that.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, it's the best when it. When you get. When we could just kind of sit back and you get passive aggressive snarky Hank about Philadelphia and then Mad Max at Hank. Yeah, that's my personal favorite.

[PFT Commenter]

When Hanks.

[Big Cat]

When they just like take the wheel and they're just. They're going back and forth at each other and they just. And Max is just like, shut the up. All you do is sit on that couch, coach.

[PFT Commenter]

And Hank's wearing the big the hater jacket.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he got that eating grin on your face. Nobody's had more of a eating grin than Hank does when. When he gets to relish in Max's misery.

[Big Cat]

I'm not trolling. They Were at the six. Now they're back. We need six, seven. We need the Raptors to win.

[Max Homa]

There's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's a lot of basketball. It's a tentative seven.

[Big Cat]

It's a tentative seven because they have more games played than the Raptors.

[PFT Commenter]

Raptors got to win tonight, okay?

[Shane Bacon]

They gotta win. Raptors have to win three out of four.

[Big Cat]

I don't think the Sixers are gonna

[PFT Commenter]

beat the Rockets, which would put them at the seven. That would put the Sixers at seven.

[Big Cat]

I mean, beat the Rock.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we can't. We can't just say we don't think that they're gonna beat the Rock, and

[Shane Bacon]

then we play two, Tank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but then you need to. But then you need. Then we also need.

[PFT Commenter]

So go Rockets.

[Big Cat]

Go Raptors.

[PFT Commenter]

Why? Because Rockets beat Sixers, then the Raptors

[Big Cat]

have to win three out of four,

[PFT Commenter]

and then to go to six, and that gives us. Us what? That gives us six.

[Big Cat]

Terrified of the Sixers. But then the Sixers 15. Zero against the Raptors after trading OG and Nobi. I would rather play the Raptors. And then the Sixers, though, need to win the play in.

[PFT Commenter]

If.

[Big Cat]

If they're in the seven, they have to win the play. Incorrect. The only problem is, I was looking at the schedule. Then the Sixers and the Celtics would have to go seven games for it to happen on your bachelor party.

[Hank]

That'd be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

There's just no chance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Shane Bacon]

You would sign up for that.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

You would sign up, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

When you're right, you're right.

[Big Cat]

That'd be awesome. Yeah. No, I. I would sign up for. No, I don't even know if I would sign up for that. Oh, my God.

[Max Homa]

And no, I would sign up for that.

[Shane Bacon]

For a chance to win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. A chance to win game seven.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because we all know. And think about it, you'd have strength in numbers. Your brothers would be there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you get triple teamed by the delenties.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, a lot of partners.

[Big Cat]

And Jerry.

[Max Homa]

And Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Big Dom. And Navy. Big Dom.

[Max Homa]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Max this. You have nothing to lose. Like, nobody expects the Sixers to do anything. No.

[Big Cat]

Game seven would be sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see that step back three that Joel Embiid took?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You see it? The one where he took, like, six steps? That.

[Hank]

That's just.

[PFT Commenter]

That's just the NBA.

[Big Cat]

You don't know ball.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's perfectly legal play.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you seen this?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The one where he whopped a three in Wemby's eye. Yeah, Saw it.

[PFT Commenter]

You see this? Very funny. I love the NBA.

[Max Homa]

This is.

[Big Cat]

This is a bad take this.

[Shane Bacon]

You're gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a.

[Big Cat]

This is a non ball nowhere. Take right here. Wait. So memes that. That. That just backfired so hard in your face. That was an awesome play from Joel.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a great show shot. He also right in Wy's eye.

[Big Cat]

So we could have Sixers. Knicks is the other alternative. Very possible. Be great. Be great. That.

[PFT Commenter]

That might not be great.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Because memes would just. Memes would go to a dark place.

[Big Cat]

Whiz would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be great. Where we beat him three games later left.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just excited for the bachelor party.

[Big Cat]

Three games left. Season end Sunday. Season end Sunday. Damn. Wait. And then the live show in la.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the play in game is. Yeah. Then that week.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn.

[Big Cat]

They really got this sports schedule down. Great. We just go Masters into playoffs. They nailed it. They really did.

[Max Homa]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Numbers 2, 3, 78, 56.

[Big Cat]

8, 24, 72, 39, 10, 92. Anyone? One more, one more, one more, one more, one more. Everyone stick with their numbers. 10. I mean we got it. 31.

[PFT Commenter]

31. Anyone?

[Big Cat]

We suck. Can't believe only one person's got this. You didn't accept it.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't take it. Happy birthday to Matt. Matty Healy. Great, great entertainer. Big fan of everything you've done. Maddie. CD Lamb. Everything. I don't know everything he's done.

[Big Cat]

Everything.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Actually. I don't know anything that he's done.

[Big Cat]

Is that the guy who dated Taylor Swift?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Happy birthday.

[Shane Bacon]

Big justice.

[Big Cat]

I think he's. I think he's got some bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he problematic?

[Big Cat]

I think there's maybe some bad things. I know the Swifties didn't like him, but that also they don't like anybody. That actually means he's probably cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I. To be determined. But. Happy birthday. Everybody deserves a happy birthday.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday, Maddie.

[PFT Commenter]

Matty Healy.

[Big Cat]

Everyone deserves it. I really don't want to get to 420.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone has a special day. Hitler killed Hitler. So. Happy birthday, CD Lamb. Happy birthday to Joe Adele, the home run thief.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys. Maddie, is Maddie Healy. Is he just a dick or is there something. I don't know if he's just a dick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he might just be a dick.

[PFT Commenter]

Even dicks have birthday days. They deserve to feel special.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They had a brief intense romantic fling in May. 20. I'm gonna.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I. I just saw the Swifties didn't like him, but I don't. I actually think that probably means that I like him.

[PFT Commenter]

Standby real quick. I'm just gonna call Mad Dog and see if I should retract. And if. If she says yes, I will issue a formal attraction on the air.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but she's a Swifty, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So she'll tell me if he did anything really bad.

[Max Homa]

Hello?

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Mad Dog. You're live to tape on part of my take. Oh, hi, Matty Healey. It's his birthday today. I wished him a happy birthday. Should I not do that?

[Max Homa]

Maddie Healey, as in the 1975?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Is he not a good guy?

[Max Homa]

He is not taken well in the Swifty community.

[Big Cat]

Oh, then we love him. Yes. All right. Yeah. Happy birthday, Maddie Healy.

[PFT Commenter]

Just a good songwriter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, he.

[Max Homa]

He is a good songwriter. I like his songs. I like the 1975. I don't think I like what he and all right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good, good.

[Big Cat]

Shout out, Maddie.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday, Matty.

[Big Cat]

Come on board my teeth.

[PFT Commenter]

It's your day. Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Sa.