Masters Week, Jerry O'Connell As PMT Ombudsman, Boban Marjanović In Studio Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

Summary

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Pardon My Take – "Masters Week, Jerry O'Connell As PMT Ombudsman, Boban Marjanović In Studio Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week"

Air Date: April 10, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter, Barstool Sports
Special Guests: Jerry O’Connell, Boban Marjanović
Episode Focus: Masters Week in golf, the Diana Russini–Mike Vrabel scandal, Jerry O’Connell as PMT Ombudsman, Boban in-studio, and Fyre Fest of the Week.

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a wild blend of sports talk and chaos, ranging from passionate deep-dives into Masters Week at Augusta National, breaking down a major media-scandal involving Diana Russini and Mike Vrabel, to an in-studio appearance by the ever-joyous Boban Marjanović. The cast weighs in on golf’s tradition vs. modernity, NBA stats, sports journalism ethics, and the podcast’s own approach to tabloid-level drama. Special Ombudsman Jerry O’Connell challenges the hosts on their handling of the Russini–Vrabel affair, while Boban brings his signature joy—and soup takes—to the studio.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. Masters Week: Tradition vs. Modernity

[02:59 – 24:21]

• Initial Masters Takeaways:
  • Bryson DeChambeau’s early “meltdown” and Masters bad-luck
  • The Part 3 Contest and Augusta’s evolving image
• Discussions around Augusta’s strict traditions:
  • Mark Calcavecchia thrown out for having a cell phone; balancing tradition with tech advancements (e.g., sunglasses with cameras, Apple watches)
  • The rise of "chotchky" (gimmicky) elements at the Masters—Is Augusta losing its “specialness”?

"Augusta...the Masters is supposed to feel very different than every other tournament." – Big Cat [05:00] "I kind of don't like it when Augusta tries to market itself to me. I want the power dynamic to be like, I'm begging Augusta to let me watch the Masters." – PFT Commenter [06:23]

• Golfers playing Augusta:
  • PFT claims he “could break 110” at Augusta; heated debate on what the “drop dead score” would actually be for an average player.
  • Golf stat experts weigh in with projections and a reality check.

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2. Breaking News: Joel Embiid’s Surgery

[13:12 – 15:46]

• Joel Embiid diagnosed with appendicitis, will undergo surgery.
• The crew reacts, jokes about injury-prone label, and pivots into talking about tonsils, wisdom teeth, and vestigial human body parts.

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3. Masters Recap: Standouts and Golf Fandom

[16:52 – 24:21]

• Updates on leaderboard: Rory McIlroy, Max Homa, Brooks Koepka, Sam Burns, Fred Couples (the “every dad in America” favorite)
• Iconic ceremonial moments (Jack Nicklaus’ tee shot)
• Reflections on what it must feel like to be an aging Masters champion, always invited back

"That's got to be so awesome—every single year, just be able to come and play in the Masters..." – Big Cat [19:45]

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4. Sports Podcast Drama & Interlocking Hands in Sedona

[26:03 – 34:49]
(Leads into a deep-dive Ombudsman segment with Jerry O’Connell later)

• Diana Russini–Mike Vrabel scandal: shattering sports media Twitter, Twitter ratio, and memes galore.
• Big Cat caught in New York Post for “interlocking fingers” with a friend.
• The PMT crew’s candid take on being “caught” in compromising, but platonic situations—“It’s hard to do that and not have it be awkward or sensual.”

"It has to either be sensual, or it's awkward or super romantic." – PFT Commenter [27:45]

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5. Unbelievable Sports Stats

[31:16 – 36:41]

• Shohei Ohtani: Simultaneous on-base and pitching streaks
• Chet Holmgren: Has only ever been a 1-seed in every organized basketball season
• Nikola Jokić: Leads NBA in rebounds and assists. Current 10-game winning stats unparalleled in league history

"There have been over 1.4 million total 10-game spans...none of them did a player have as many points, rebounds, and assists as Nicole Jokić during The Nuggets current 10-game streak." – Big Cat [35:32]

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6. Transfer Portal Season & College Basketball

[40:21 – 42:17]

• The mass movement of players via NCAA transfer portal gets lamented, with personal anecdotes about tattooed players, school pride, and bracket tattoo debates.

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7. Jerry O’Connell as PMT Ombudsman: The Russini–Vrabel Breakdown

[48:16 – 94:00 (with coda)]

Major Points:

• Jerry enters, poolside (“not a special, $2,000-a-night pool, just a regular Southern California pool!”).
• As “Ombudsman,” he puts Big Cat, PFT, and crew on the spot for not going harder on the Russini–Vrabel “alleged affair.”
• The “Affair” Discourse:
  • Jerry pushes for real analysis on the scandal’s workplace implications, the journalistic and PR fallout, and the public’s expectation for PMT to “go there.”
  • Struggles with whether this is a “workplace relationship”—If you cover, but don’t work for, the same company is it a conflict? (General consensus: “adjacent, not coworkers.”)
  • Gender and accountability: “Don’t you think that whatever happens to Diana reciprocal equal thing has to happen to Coach Vrabel?” – Jerry [64:17]
• Ethics and Fan Reactions:
  • Hosts candid about personal discomfort when friends are involved in scandal: “It was a weird situation where if you’re real life friends with somebody, you don’t want to shit on them to score Internet points” – PFT [81:41]
• Who took the photos?
  • Wild speculation (rival teams, up-and-coming insiders, plant?).
  • “It feels like someone might have been tracking them.” – Big Cat [76:58]
  • “Those are the worst pictures that get put out. It feels like they were trying to find something, you know…” – PFT [77:11]
• Comedy returns: Jerry recites a custom poem about the scandal ("Rossini and Mike… fingies interlocked…tootsies…”), models custom Max banana hammock swimsuit as the segment devolves into jokes about his poolside shrinkage.

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8. Interview: Boban Marjanović In Studio

[96:58 – 138:10]

• Masters Week Boban on his Final Four adventure:
  • First experience in a student section and marching band (attempted—and failed—triangle playing)
  • Reflections on American college basketball’s booming international flavor and NIL deals: “What is your real price? ...what you can make in Europe, you make here.”
• NBA/EuroBall Talk:
  • Wemby admiration (“What he can do...nobody can do”)
  • Friendship with Jokic; defending Jokic’s brothers against “scary” reputation
  • European “fundamentals” and unselfishness vs. US basketball style
  • Fun facts: Serbian water polo supremacy, farm life, family tractors
• Comedy Gold: Soup power rankings, bizarre sport crossovers, and an open call to rejoin the NBA for “Year 10”

“You name it—same like what I said, but we have beef soup, chicken soup...I don’t know everything to translate, but we have a lot of stuff.” – Boban [115:36] “They don’t make big golf clubs for guys like you.” – PFT Commenter [125:17]

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9. Fyre Fest of the Week

[140:04 – end]

• A lighthearted airing of minor grievances:
  • Hank’s yogurt struggles & abstaining from pimento cheese
  • The “pimento cheese corner” consuming “six pounds” during Masters week [141:09]
  • Max’s epic mini-golf meltdown—yelling “meltdown!” while having a meltdown [150:46]
  • Max (Memes) outed as an adult man who starts his workday with a luxurious weekday morning bath (prompting utter disbelief from hosts) [152:54]
  • PFT reveals his back pain stems from being a “genetic freak”—only four vertebrae
  • Jerry’s poolside saga and the unheated pool

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I want the power dynamic to be like, I’m begging Augusta to let me watch the Masters.” — PFT [06:23]
• “Every year you get somebody that says something stupid about how they would compete at Augusta...You said you could shoot 110.” — Big Cat [08:57]
• “If you’re real life friends with somebody, you don’t want to shit on them to score Internet points in front of the world.” — PFT [81:41]
• “It has to either be sensual, or it’s awkward or super romantic. That’s not a first time handhold.” — PFT [27:45]
• “Soup power rankings: Chicken noodle, mushroom...butternut squash.” — Boban [115:17]
• “I love you so much but you’re just part of our life forever, which is what it is.” — Big Cat to Jerry [48:51]

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Tone & Language

• Wild, rapid-fire banter with self-aware breaks for genuine sentiment
• Chaotic, joke-heavy, irreverent, with heartfelt moments—especially when friends (or foes) are caught in the crosshairs of controversy
• True to the show’s style: honest, a little bit juvenile, obsessed with stats and sports minutiae, but ready to pivot to existential or ethical questions at a moment’s notice

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Takeaways for a New Listener

• Expect unpredictable, sometimes ADD-style pivots—but always with sharp humor and sports obsession at the core.
• This episode is a must-listen for golf fans, PMT diehards, and anyone interested in how sports media insiders handle scandal among their own.
• The PMT crew won’t shy away from uncomfortable topics, but if you’re looking for hard-hitting tabloid drama, expect it to be filtered through both empathy and sarcasm.

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For Quick Navigation

Major Segments:

• [02:59] Masters Week begins
• [13:12] Embiid’s surgery news
• [26:03] Sports Podcast Drama & Hand-Holding Fiasco
• [48:16] Jerry O’Connell Ombudsman Segment
• [96:58] Boban Marjanović interview
• [140:04] Fyre Fest of the Week

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This episode is a rollercoaster—entertaining, chaotic, and at times disarmingly honest, capturing the best of Pardon My Take and its unique place in the sports podcast landscape.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

It's Jerry o', Connell, Ombudsman, Capital M A N. At the end of that, yes he is.

[Big Cat]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, Martin might take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Martin mite

[PFT Commenter]

barn at Mike Tay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Bar, not Mike Tay. Welcome to part in my take. Presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, April 10th, and it's Masters weekend.

[Hank]

Boys.

[Big Cat]

Hello, friends. The Masters are here. We've already had a Bryson meltdown.

[PFT Commenter]

The bunker got him.

[Big Cat]

The bunker got him.

[PFT Commenter]

Intense to do that with some of history's greatest monsters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's great to see the Masters. We had a. We had a little bit of a controversy, Hank. I would. I would, as a golf purist. Wednesday, people were very upset at the Masters. They were very upset at Kevin Hart, Jason Kelce. They were upset at the hats, which we talked about on. On Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we addressed the hats.

[Big Cat]

The ma. The Masters has. Has it lost its luster because they've. They've opened it to too many things and made it too. Too chotchky, I would say.

[Hank]

I don't think so. I think the.

[Boban]

The.

[Hank]

The Wednesday Part 3 contest, it's. It's. It's fun. It's for the fans. Jason Kelsey's for the fans. Kevin Hart's for the fans.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Markel Covechia?

[Hank]

I don't know who that is.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Mark Calkaveci. He won a U.S. open, I think our PGA Championship. He's a major winner and he was at Augusta yesterday and they threw his ass out.

[Hank]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Because he had a cell phone. He brought a cell phone?

[Hank]

Well, yeah. That means Master still has it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that is. Maybe that was.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Big Cat]

We think that was on purpose. He won the Open Championship in 1989. Do you think that was a call in response Augusta being like, hey, we still got it.

[PFT Commenter]

One. My theory is that they. They talked to, number one. Either it's anti Italian discrimination and they like searched him because of his last name ending in aal. Or two, it was a behind the scenes situation where they said we begin. A lot of people are saying that we still don't have it. So we're going to throw your ass out. If you're okay with just saying that. You had a cell phone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think it might be a setup. I also think that Augusta is going to have to maybe take a look at his bylaws moving forward because people have sunglasses with cameras on them.

[Boban]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

That are attached to the cell phones.

[Big Cat]

Well, that shit is bullshit like that.

[PFT Commenter]

That.

[Big Cat]

That we can't have that. Because I do think I. People were very upset online on Wednesday, and I I get it. Augusta, like, the Masters is supposed to feel very different than every other tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But like Hank just said, it is the Wednesday Part 3 contest. Like, we in and we had, you know, Frankie Fleetwood. Gonna have to wait another year. He said, that can be a long year. Try my hottest. But yeah, it's. That wasn't the actual tournament. If it was the actual tournament and that stuff was going on, I would be like, yeah, that's crazy. We gotta. We gotta tighten it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think that it's. Yeah, Wednesday is okay, but still, I think you gotta send, like, a little bit of a message.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, tighten it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just tighten up just a little bit. I did. Like, how early in the week, the, the chairman of Augusta national, just out of nowhere, he was like, hey, apropos nothing, I. I do regret inviting. Dude, perfect. That was kind of weird that I.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you said that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just out of nowhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the thing is that did. That was the slippery slope. And people rightfully so, were like, this is. And guess what? I guess maybe that's why we're here right now.

[PFT Commenter]

We can. Yeah. Listen, if you let dude perfect start throwing Frisbees around, aiming corner. What's next, Mark Calculate putting a cell phone up his asshole and sneaking into the tournament. Yeah, like, you're, you're really opening the floodgates with that one.

[Big Cat]

I, I do, I, I, I do think in defensive, people who are upset right now, I, I get it. Like, the, Like, a lot of the things that we consume now in sports and media, they all kind of feel the same, where it's like, influencers, tick tock. It all just kind of blends together. It's all an event. This is a situation where the master should feel special and different. It should feel completely separate from everything else.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of don't like it when Augusta tries to market itself to me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't want any of that.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I want. I want the power dynamic to be like, I'm begging Augusta to let me watch the Masters.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm lucky enough to be able to tune in on television, and it's there.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Thank you, thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you, August.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Golf course.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah. So I have heard people, though, talking about, like, they have to do something about the, the, the glasses that have. The song that have the cameras that connect to. To cell phones.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

The Apple watches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Gonna have to do something about that. But people just keep finding a way like that. What's the.

[Big Cat]

The chess scandal, the Magnus, which I

[Hank]

think There's a buzzer in the ass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The vibrating ceramic anal beads. Yeah, yeah. Bringing those in so they can text at Augusta, we got to start putting in, like, body scans, but.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think there's a new documentary about Magnus. We got to watch that. Yeah, maybe. Maybe this summer.

[Memes]

I watched it last night.

[Big Cat]

Was it good?

[Memes]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

He's the best. He's a goat. Oh, no.

[Memes]

Tell me it was good.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he not the goat?

[Big Cat]

He's not the goat.

[Memes]

No, he is.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a different.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he. He doesn't come across.

[Memes]

He doesn't come. Come across exactly like the goat.

[PFT Commenter]

Why?

[Memes]

He does.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, that's not a. He does. That's. That was.

[Big Cat]

Let me down softly Here.

[Memes]

You want me to tell you what? Tell you what happened?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do a review. We'll do a movie.

[Boban]

All right.

[Big Cat]

We'll watch it. We'll watch it next week.

[Memes]

It's on Netflix.

[Hank]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Love that. Okay.

[Memes]

I also.

[PFT Commenter]

Great question.

[Memes]

I also watched the Lamar Odom one.

[Hank]

That one.

[Memes]

That one's also interesting.

[Big Cat]

Also. The goat. No.

[Memes]

Lamar looking like the best guy in that. In that documentary.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Why?

[Boban]

What do you do?

[Memes]

Just doesn't.

[PFT Commenter]

The movie's called the Life and Death of Lamar Odom.

[Big Cat]

He did die. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Which is, like, people are. Are wondering. Casuals are wondering. Non ball knowers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, why is this called this? Well, you need to. You need to get your weight up when it comes to reading about Lamar.

[Big Cat]

He and Nikki Six, Right.

[Memes]

Yep. Both of those are on Netflix as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Lamar Odom watched every single porn movie on the Internet.

[Big Cat]

God bless.

[PFT Commenter]

Famously. Yes.

[Big Cat]

God bless him.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is why I had to just get out. And he pretty much. Yeah, we'll. We'll do a review on the. On the chess one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So back to the Masters. I do. Yeah. I think it should be. I think they should maybe tone it down a little and make it feel a little more special.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

It's just it. Everything kind of sucks now. Like, the Masters should never suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. I agree.

[Big Cat]

It should never feel attainable. Guys like me should never be able to be allowed to.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm saying is, like, I almost don't want to ever get an invitation to go to Augusta.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I. It's like, I would never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, people are mad about. I. I did say, like, every year, you. You get somebody that says something stupid about how they would compete at Augusta national if they played the course. Yeah. I actually don't think that what I said was that stupid.

[Big Cat]

You said you could shoot 110.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I could shoot 109. I could break 110. I. I'm not saying I would do it every time.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I could do it.

[Hank]

I think a million years. I think it's a possibility playing from where they're playing.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, then I. I did have. There were people that. That hit me up, and they were, like, almost sucking the course off too much. Like, they were simping for the golf course and they were saying, dude, you couldn't do a hunt. You couldn't break 150.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's ridiculous.

[Hank]

I agree with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You're a core stand if you're playing

[Hank]

from where they're playing. Yeah. Like, if you're playing the course they're playing today, no chance.

[Big Cat]

What's the best you've ever shot? Ball and cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Ball and cup. It was, but it was at, like a par 70. I think I shot an 87.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Ball and cup. You're shooting 110 in Augusta. I'm saying I could. Not that I do it every time.

[Big Cat]

Well, I mean, but that. You got to say it with your chest. Anyone could say anything if they say the word could.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. 110. Yeah, I could do it. Yeah, I could do it.

[Boban]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

But not could. Like, I would. That's what you have to say.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, there's no doubt about breaking 150.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would, like, because it could. Anyone, you know, best day of your life.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm.

[Big Cat]

Could do anything.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying to be.

[Big Cat]

Hey, could dunk a basketball. I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm delusional, but I'm not trying to do. I'm not trying to be, like, super delusional. I don't think that I could do it every time, but I think that one time. No, let's.

[Memes]

Let's say you get one round at Augusta.

[PFT Commenter]

One round.

[Big Cat]

One round at Augusta. What are you.

[Memes]

Not every time. It's not one time.

[Big Cat]

And hold on. Before you answer this question, it's what are you shooting? And if you don't beat that score, you're dead.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, wait. My drop dead score. That's a different conversation.

[Memes]

I think that's a different conversation.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, I want to drop that score. Then we can go to the next one.

[PFT Commenter]

The drop dead score. Everybody should have their drop dead score.

[Big Cat]

Yes. You have to know your drive. My drop dead score. To Gus. 175.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Memes]

My drop in 300.

[PFT Commenter]

I think my drop. I'm gonna say 130 because I want to live a little bit. I want to feel like maybe, maybe if everything goes bad, it might. I might die on this course, you know, because that way I feel like I accomplished something. 1:30.

[Big Cat]

Okay. And then the follow up question is what. What do you honestly think if you go out and play your best, what are you shooting at Augusta?

[PFT Commenter]

My best. The best I've ever played up to this point in my life.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm probably shooting about 105.

[Big Cat]

Hank, do you think this is. Help me out here. I don't.

[Hank]

I think. Yeah, I don't think. I think 130 would be a good score for you.

[PFT Commenter]

100. That's my drop dead score.

[Hank]

I know.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be a bad score. That would be a bad score.

[Hank]

I'm worried for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone should have a. A drop dead score and it should be tested at least once in your life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know. Pft. I feel like Augusta's pretty damn hard.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I respect Augusta. It was more so the people that were like, dude, you can break 150. I think everybody, everyone here should be able to break 150 at Augusta.

[Big Cat]

I would not put. That's not my drop dead course.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I'm not doing that.

[Memes]

No chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Zero percent chance.

[Memes]

Yeah, no chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it just tips at Augusta or do they have a spot for regular? I think they've got members, but there's this guy who is a performance coach at Acros Golf, and he's a. He's a golf stat pro, Lou Stagner. And he hit me up. He said, assuming that you're an 18 index, he. Your course handicap will be minus 31 at every skill level. People tend to average about three shots above their course handicap. So 72 plus 31 plus 3 equals 106. That's what he would project me shoot. But then he says, I'd add some strokes on top of that for the situation. Hard to say exactly how many. 109.5 is a good line.

[Big Cat]

And who's this guy?

[PFT Commenter]

He has golf stat pro in his Twitter name.

[Memes]

How many people said that you were crazy?

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't. I didn't read those.

[Memes]

Got it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm only reading the ones that agree with me. Max, do you know how the Internet works?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hank. Oh, breaking moose. What do we got?

[Hank]

Joel Embiid has been diagnosed with appendicitis and will undergo surgery this Afternoon in Houston.

[Boban]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

No guts.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Memes]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep.

[Big Cat]

Here we go.

[Memes]

Let's make more jokes about a guy. Guy's injury history.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, not really an injury. It's just.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right.

[Memes]

Oh, yeah. Illness. Yeah, that.

[PFT Commenter]

That sounds way better. I said ailment.

[Memes]

That sounds way better. An illness. I said he could die. He could die from this.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. Getting surgery. He's. He should be good.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank God.

[Memes]

Who knows what could happen under surgery? And you guys would be laughing, and this clip would look bad on you. I hope that he has successful surgery and everything's okay with Joel Embiid.

[Hank]

Same. Same.

[PFT Commenter]

Agreed.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's get back to math. So we all agree. So how long is he out for? Is it going to be better without it? How long is the. What is the appendix?

[PFT Commenter]

Do you.

[Big Cat]

Do you guys ever all have your appendices?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I've got mine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I got my taken out. You did?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did you have, like, almost die?

[Hank]

Did you, like, go to the doctor to get checked for it and they're like, we got to take it out now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I went to go. Went to the X ray room. Like, we gotta go.

[Big Cat]

And then she shot me to the surgery. No way.

[Memes]

Yeah. Serious.

[Big Cat]

So you guys keep laughing, but it is. No one has laughed. No one is.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's a miracle that they caught it. Yeah. Thank God.

[Big Cat]

And he's getting it out right before this playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

This is why it's, like. It's actually a good thing that Joel Embiid goes to see the doctor like, every single day, because that way, they caught it good. If he didn't have that injury history, he might have died today. So God bless.

[Big Cat]

We're happy this happened, that he's getting surgery. I mean, not happy that he has appendicitis. We're happy he's in good hands.

[Memes]

Me too. No one's happier than me.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. We all agree. We were the only one. Hank is really the one that sounded the happiest.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's the one who also alerted us.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'll just.

[Memes]

I'd already seen it back here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But if he doesn't alert, I can't say thoughts and prayers ago. Thoughts and prayers to Joel and beat.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hope he's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I would give him my appendix if I could.

[Memes]

Same.

[Big Cat]

I don't know how that works. Is that what. I don't even understand what the appendix. Appendix does. What does it do? Why. Why do we get it out? I think it's. It's. But then why do you. Why are you able to get it out?

[PFT Commenter]

It's one of those.

[Big Cat]

Why do we have it?

[PFT Commenter]

It lost its evolutionary use. We used to use it for digesting when we would. We used to eat, like, raw meat and stuff. That was, like, worse for you. And then as we develop farms and. And fishing, then we don't really need the appendix anymore.

[Big Cat]

So we don't. So we just don't have. We. We just don't need it. But we all have it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So she's sitting there, and then the only thing you could do that is bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's the. The wisdom teeth of the stomach.

[Big Cat]

Damn. Do you guys all have your wisdom teeth?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I got all four of mine.

[Big Cat]

I have mine out.

[Memes]

I got mine out.

[Big Cat]

And tonsils. What are tonsils? You get those out too?

[Memes]

Some people do, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But why? And what?

[Memes]

I don't know. That you eat a ton of ice cream after you. After that.

[Big Cat]

I knew that too, but what. So maybe I have got my tonsils. I've been prepping for my tonsils to be out. What does the tonsils do?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they can get infected.

[Big Cat]

Right. But, like, what is their purpose? No idea.

[PFT Commenter]

No idea what?

[Big Cat]

I'm just learning.

[Memes]

It's breathing.

[Big Cat]

I'm just curious about these things that you have. And then you can get them out and be fine.

[PFT Commenter]

First line defense for immune systems.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of like an air filter, maybe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. It is an air filter. You're right. All right, the more you know. What were we talking about? Masters.

[PFT Commenter]

Masters.

[Big Cat]

Rory.

[Hank]

Rory.

[Boban]

Rory.

[PFT Commenter]

Hatchard, Reed, Scotty. So far.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Max had a. Had a decent first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Brooks is out there doing his thing. Pretty much is. What was the. Hank, can you explain to me the. Everyone was buzzing about this guy who just sucks

[Jerry O'Connell]

pot.

[Big Cat]

Geiter or whatever his name is.

[Hank]

He has the yips.

[Big Cat]

So what's his deal?

[Hank]

He can hit bombs. Probably the longest hitter on the tour. Super young. Hits it like 350 yards. And he's got the yips.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Bad.

[Big Cat]

Like, how bad?

[Hank]

Like Frankie Borelli. He had like three of those shots where he just legitimately, like, scald shots to the other side of the green.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, can't chip.

[Hank]

He had 12.

[Big Cat]

Is he good otherwise? Like, if he didn't have the yips?

[Hank]

He had three, four triple bogeys today.

[Big Cat]

Yikes. Yikes. So. But is he good if he. If he didn't have the yips?

[Hank]

He's currently FedEx 44th world ranking, 77. He's young. Like, he. He won on tour last year. He's a Bomber. But Augusta is not.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, well, it's.

[Hank]

You gotta have hands.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds.

[Big Cat]

Gotta have hands. Do you have hands?

[PFT Commenter]

I got. I got two of them. It sounds like he's. He's really good. Is it just this week that he's got the yips or. Where do they have the yips? Like, coming into it.

[Hank]

This is the first. I mean, it's. I think today he just kind of. He fell apart.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I see. I'm different. I would. I would not do that.

[Hank]

12 over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Gross.

[Big Cat]

You would never.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that. I would quit. I would quit if it looked like I was gonna. I was gonna fail. I'm looking at the leaderboard right now. I see one name that I think would. It would. Every dad in America would have. Remember when. When duke lost to UConn the other week. Do you guys remember that game?

[Big Cat]

Wait, you're gonna have to explain it, because I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the buzzer? Pretty much at the buzzer. Like a couple tenths of a second were left afterwards, but 10 seconds left, and Duke inbounded the ball. It got stolen at midcourt, and then.

[Big Cat]

And then

[Jerry O'Connell]

went.

[Big Cat]

Now I remember.

[PFT Commenter]

Remember how you came your pants for that multiple times? Every dad in America would have that exact same reaction for probably a month if Fred Couples won the master.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. He always.

[PFT Commenter]

He always gets out to a great start.

[Big Cat]

He's tied for 13, smoothest swing in the world.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. He's 1 under, which is awesome through Boom boom. And he's still got that great swing. I think he's playing with a day glow yellow. He does, like, the high visibility yellow golf ball.

[Big Cat]

And he has, like, his. His golf shoes look like skateboard shoes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's. He's got unlimited swag.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because his swing is the sweetest swing possible.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And. And he always does get out to a hot start. He's tied for 13th right now. I. I would love to see that.

[Big Cat]

That's got to be so awesome to just. Every single year, just be able to come and play in the Masters even though you're not, you know, playing competitively day in and day out.

[PFT Commenter]

You see Jack Nicklaus's tee shot?

[Big Cat]

No. What do you do?

[PFT Commenter]

So every year, Jack Nicklaus, he comes out to do the ceremonial tee shot and.

[Big Cat]

Oh, did he spray it?

[PFT Commenter]

He hooked it a little bit. And this. I actually like this. I. I say keep letting Jack do it. Like there should be some element of danger when you go to Augusta National Golf course, and in this case, it is the patrons that are Lined up on the left side of the fairway. And so he stepped up, hit it, and it gave the cutest little sheepish, like. I'm sorry. After he hit it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch this.

[Big Cat]

Six time Masters runner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can hit wherever you want.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You can.

[Big Cat]

You can spray. Oh, yeah, that was fine.

[PFT Commenter]

And then his little. I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

I would take that drive all day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think most people that are there would like to get hit by a drive. Nicholas.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely. Yeah. Freddie. Freddie. Boom. Boom. That. That like winning the Masters, obviously the coolest thing ever, but I think the, the coolness just keeps going further and further the older you get. And the fact that you just keep getting to come back with a green jacket, go to the dinner and play in the tournament no matter what. That's. I mean, what, What a feeling that must be.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty excellent.

[Big Cat]

Just every single year. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna play Augusta. Won it in 1992.

[PFT Commenter]

It's you. You can pitzel in a vacation for yourself.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Every year it's like a new holiday.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You get your own. Yeah. Holiday given to you Midlife. Which, which rocks. Sam Burns, five under right now. Jason Days up there.

[Big Cat]

Hank, who'd you.

[Hank]

Who.

[PFT Commenter]

Patrick Reed.

[Big Cat]

Who are you rooting for outside of bets? Who would you want to win?

[Hank]

I like, I like Jason Dye a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's.

[Hank]

He's the lads. He's been doing a lot of YouTube stuff, so I've been watching a lot of him. Him and his boys. I like Jason Dye. Sam Burns. I like. I bet on Patrick Reed. Got her up. Akshay. Gary Woodland is. Is a. Is a long shot. I have him to go top 10. He's two under right now.

[Big Cat]

Is this, is this a weird assess this statement? I was definitely rooting against Rory because it was funny when he was a joke. Now that he's won the Masters, I think going back to back would be a cool story. Like I might be rooting for that.

[Hank]

I watched the Amazon did a great documentary on the. The Masters last year with. With Rory. They also. There was a. There's a documentary about Ken Griffith Jr. As a photographer at the Masters last year.

[Boban]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Hank]

The picture of Rory like that is a Sports Illustrated. The picture everyone uses. Ken Griffey took that picture.

[Big Cat]

Is that the one that he had the pencil drawing that took six months.

[Hank]

Different picture, but. Same similar, similar image, but. But that on YouTube, if you have time, it's like 40 minutes. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Watch. Because like the director of the Augusta photography is like some, some British guys like I was like, he was very honest. Where he's like, we got all this going on. We got Ken Griffey Jr. Coming to do photography this week. Like, I don't want to deal with this. And they. He kind of did reviews with them after each round. And like the first round, it wasn't great. He's like, you got to get better pictures. Got to get better pictures. And then he's going through his pictures after Sunday and he's like, wait, this is the. We're using these. He's like, send me these now. Like, we're like. Because he was like, oh, yeah. Hopefully you get one picture we can post. And then he's going through his pictures from 18 and he's like, wait a second.

[PFT Commenter]

I like, these are the pictures.

[Big Cat]

Wait, this was a documentary?

[Hank]

It's like, yeah, they did a. They've. They followed him.

[Boban]

A short.

[Hank]

It's. It's a. It's a 40 minute, like, it's a. It's on YouTube. It's like a 40 minute documentary. It's phenomenal. What was your question?

[Big Cat]

I can't.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, Rory.

[Big Cat]

The.

[Hank]

That was. I'm still rooting against Rory. It was a good.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[Hank]

It was a good story and it was a good doc, but like, it was such a tough. It was as a hate watch last year. It was brutal watching, rooting for him to lose and him winning. But I still. If push comes to shove and he's in it Sunday, I'll be rooting again.

[Big Cat]

See that? I just. There's something about going back to back that I just like, you have to tip your cat. Like, that was pretty awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if, if it's not going to be anything related to.

[Hank]

But if he's in contention, I would really like against someone else on Sunday. Do you think you're gonna be rooting for him?

[PFT Commenter]

I would like. I would root for Rose because it hasn't. Rose lost twice in. In a playoff at Augusta.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's a guy I would. I would want to see win now.

[Big Cat]

It depends on who he's going against, but. Excuse me. Masters watch all weekend. Best snap of the best snap of the year. And remember, Saturday, we're going to change our clocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[Big Cat]

It's always, always lines up with the Masters.

[PFT Commenter]

Good reminder.

[Big Cat]

I got you. I got you. Okay, let's do some national sports podcast topics before we do that. DraftKings. Every week in the NBA, stars rise. Legends are made, and one player rules them all. All season long, it goes down every Tuesday. DraftKings. Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner. The NBA bring your brings you king of the court. Here's how it works. DraftKings putting up 1 million in bonus bets each week. Opt in Apply your token and place a $5 pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday. If your pick fin the night leading the league in points, rebounds and assists, they're crowned king of the court and you win your share of 1 million in bonus bets. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE that's code TAKE to win a share of 1 million in bonus bets. If your players King of the court in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY RESET NEW YORK Call 877-8-HOPE and wire. Text HOPE and why Connecticut? Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org on behalf of Boothill Casino in Kansas. Wager tax pass through may apply. Illinois 21 and over in most states. Void in Ontario, restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources. See sportsbook draftkings.com promos Limited time offer. Okay, we're going to talk with Jerry Ombudsman about Diana Rossini and Mike Free will, but we should say that the taking awards are going to. It's going to be tough to beat ratio of the year because Diana did throw out a trial balloon tweet this morning about the NFL refs and it did not go well.

[PFT Commenter]

No. I think. What is it up to? 2,000.

[Big Cat]

It did not go well. It wasn't. I, I actually here's, here's my honest take of what she should do. PR101. I think she should just become like a Se Woo Kim tracker for the weekend. If she just, if she just tweeted every single golf shot of a random golfer in the Masters flood the zone. You. You kind of fight it off a little possibly.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, doing the fake hack thing would be great too if you just, just like every hour on the hour posted a new crypto currency.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just like. Yeah. Sedona coin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Sedona coin.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just imagine though, like on Saturday morning you wake up and it's just, you know, oh, Si Wu Kim, he, he sprayed his drive left on four.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure, I'm sure.

[Big Cat]

Up and down.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure nobody would. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But if you just keep doing it, it's every shot. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty long off the tee. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also I ended up in the New York Post because I got involved in the. In the interlocking of fingers. Look, friends sometimes go to a very romantic hotel two and a half hours from Phoenix, and they interlock fingers.

[PFT Commenter]

It happens.

[Big Cat]

Happens. Yeah. Kate and I got. Got set up in the interlocking of fingers.

[PFT Commenter]

I also saw Zach. Oh, like you were outdoors.

[Big Cat]

Kate and I went outdoors.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you in a dumpster, Zach? They were.

[Big Cat]

They're spying on me and Memes. We're not sure who it was, but they caught us.

[Memes]

We're out.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I guess the story is broke now. Yeah, we're. We're out in the hallway. We're down the tunnel. They caught us in the.

[Big Cat]

In the parking lot. It was tough. Yeah, it's hard to do that. The one thing I learned from doing the interlocking fingers with Kate was it's hard to do that not have it be like very awkward or sens. You. It has to either be sensual or

[PFT Commenter]

it's awkward or super romantic. Yeah, it's.

[Big Cat]

It's a very romantic way to hold someone's hands. Yeah, it's not a normal holding of hands.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not a first time handhold.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, I'm glad that we got Jerry on because Jerry. Jerry was texting us all night on. On Tuesday night, just like putting us to the fire before we even recorded anything. And we get into it, we. We address a lot of the concerns with Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, the, the bang bang of the. No pun intended. But the. It happened. And then we had to record right after that was. That had us a little. Little throne for a loop. I. I woke up on Wednesday morning. I was like, I will see what if. Whatever. Whatever else comes out. But this does on a rooftop in a romantic setting like that. I think it's. It's. It's tough to. Tough to wiggle out of that one.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a bad look.

[Big Cat]

It's tough to wiggle out of them. I did see you picture of you at the pool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I was really embarrassed. Dave. Dave, I guess has contacts at that same hotel. So he. He released a picture was myself, Diana Vrabel and the Boston guys. Yeah, the Boston guys were there just

[Big Cat]

all hanging out at the pool.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, they, you know, the speaker. The picture kind of speaks for itself. I think I'm. I might be massaging variable's feet in that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Will's got his. Got his knee brace on. Always gotta stay safe.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, I think what happened Here is pretty clear. Like, the Boston guys probably saw me and you hung out at the pool a couple weeks ago. And so they're like, oh, all right, let's do that. I want to hang out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we want to hang out at the pool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Listen, it could all just be a big misunderstanding of elaborate handshake. That was fingers locked hug memes is back there.

[PFT Commenter]

I just in full for full journalistic transparency. He was doing the blowjob motion with his tongue and cheek and the hands.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, tough one to get out of. I. It's a tough one. It's tough one to get out of.

[PFT Commenter]

It is. I.

[Big Cat]

The. The Sedona. What a. By the way, not shout out, but kind of shout out. The incredible photography, like, the backdrop was insane. The zoomed out one.

[PFT Commenter]

So there's a beautiful place that.

[Big Cat]

That is a. That's a frameable picture.

[PFT Commenter]

Beautiful spot.

[Big Cat]

It's a frame of.

[PFT Commenter]

I would almost say that that could be entrapment. Like, if you. If you go with a buddy to Sedona and you're in the presence of those rocks, you're gonna fall in love. Yeah, that's just how it is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's two buddies hugging in front of like the most idyllic. I can't backdrop. You could possibly have just two buddies.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't tell you how many bros trips and bachelor parties have gone to Sedona and then just turned into a gay orgy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would be funny if Rabel just did a press conference. Like, what guys can't have friends? Yeah, we can't bro out in front of the.

[Boban]

What.

[Big Cat]

What are those? What's that mountain range?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know what those. The red rocks are. It's. Yeah, it's the foothills of the Grand Canyon.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. It's like. It's probably like Lovers Lane or something. If we're being honest.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. I. I kept refreshing and kept hoping that the A.J. brown trade breaking today would have been the funniest thing ever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. The Magolin rim. Well, that's not. You can't put rim in there.

[Hank]

Come on.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right.

[Big Cat]

National sports podcast. National sports podcast. I have some stats that I want to blow your guys minds. You ready for this? I have three. And we can. We can.

[Boban]

We can.

[Big Cat]

You guys can decide which ones are going to blow your mind the most. But I have three stats I wanted to throw out there, and we can go any direction we want on these. The first stat is a baseball station. You ready for this one? So this was yesterday. I don't know. The Dodgers are going to play today, so who knows if this stat stays true. But it was as of. Let me see. Let me get the date right. Just so you know, we never get stats wrong on the show. It was as of Wednesday with Shohei Ohtani getting on base and throwing six scoreless innings today. MLB's longest active on base streak is now up to 43 games. MLB's longest active scoreless inning streak among starting pitchers is now 28.2 innings pitched. Shohei Ohtani has both of them. That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

That's nuts.

[Big Cat]

He is the longest active streak of scoreless innings and longest active streak of, of games on base. Yeah. That's just silly.

[PFT Commenter]

What can you do? What can you do at this point?

[Big Cat]

It's, it's honestly, he's at the, he's at the like statistical point. He, he is like in the Barry Bonds range of. When you. Barry Bonds. There's two guys in baseball, Barry Bonds and Tony Gwynn. When you throw out a Barry Bonds or Tony gw, it just sounds so ridiculous. But it's the truth. And you're just like, holy, how's that real?

[PFT Commenter]

I think also you could put Greg Maddox maybe into that. There's a few, like some of the no hitters or some of the complete games that he had in like 80 pitches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are insane to read about. But yeah, shoehe Ohtani, he is, he's the best. He is a top five pitcher and he's a top one hitter in baseball right now, which is insane to think that somebody was able to get good enough at both those things. They should limit the amount of starts that he can have pitching.

[Big Cat]

In terms of fairness, I'm reading this. He did give up a run like after this tweet. So it ended that 28.2 innings.

[PFT Commenter]

Never mind. He sucks.

[Big Cat]

But 22 innings pitch in 43 games straight on base. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Shohei pitching fall off will be studied.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah.

[Boban]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Stat number two. What would you guys say? That's pretty impressive stat. Yeah, extremely pretty impressive stat. Here's one that I never thought I'd be like, wow. But it's pretty cool. Do you know that Chet Holmgren, in his entire basketball career has never been anything but a 1 seed while playing?

[Hank]

That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is kind of crazy.

[Big Cat]

So in high school in Minnehaha Academy, 2018, one seed, 2019, one seed, 2020, one seed, 2021, one seed Gonzaga. 2022. He was a one seed. 2023. He missed the. The NBA season with an injury. And then 24, 25. And now this year with the 26 Oklahoma City Thunder one seed. Every single team he's played for has been a one seed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I was trying to think.

[Big Cat]

It's nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

So the year he was out in the NBA. Yeah, that was that.

[Big Cat]

We're not counting that because obviously that

[PFT Commenter]

was the get ready year for the Thunder.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that's so silly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good for. But how many championships does he won?

[Big Cat]

One.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, I'm assuming he won some in high school. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably won somebody like state titles, I would assume.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he definitely won some in high school. If he didn't, then he's maybe. Maybe this is a reverse stat and he's a bust.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I was gonna say. Like if he. If he hasn't won, then you could look up. That would be what, four times as many years he loses when he has a one seed.

[Boban]

Mm.

[Big Cat]

I'm looking right now. He won at least two.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Three.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, four.

[Big Cat]

He won all four.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yeah. So he's just good. All right. That's how it works. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So really, it was the Gonzaga year. That's like. That's disappointing.

[PFT Commenter]

That's really. Mark Few.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. The only. The chat. The only chat stopper is Mark Few.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Who can stop. Who's stopping this man? And it's two giant German shepherds.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All time video.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, great video.

[Big Cat]

All time video. Those dogs were everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the dogs were drunk.

[Big Cat]

They were everywhere in that car. All right, last stat. That was impressive stat, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Last stat is a Jokic stat, which he is also. He's in the category of the Shohei Barry Bond stuff. So Jokic, there's three games left in the NBA season. He leads the league in both rebounds and assists per game. No player in NBA history has ever led both categories, even across different seasons.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Pretty insane. And then here's a really nuts one. There have been over 1.4 million total 10 game spans by players in NBA history, including playoffs, and none of them did a player have as many points, rebounds and assists as Nicole Jokic during The Nuggets current 10 game winning streak. In the 10 game winning streak that they're on right now, he has 252 points, 145 rebounds, and 127 assists.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm glad that you're bringing these stats up because especially with Jokic, we've become completely desensitized. Completely to how good he is. It's. It's kind of Crazy how desensitized we've become. Like the guy is doing stuff that has never been dreamed about again.

[Big Cat]

This is a 10 game span. Yeah. 1.4 million total. 10 game spans. Right now in his current 10 game span, he is averaging. Averaging 25 points. 14 and a half rebounds, 12. It's almost 13 assists a game. That's so stupid. He's so fucking good.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like we almost need to dumb the stats down more for us so that we truly can comprehend how crazy they are. It's because it's. It's. It's insane what, what he's been doing.

[Big Cat]

And I'm excited for the NBA playoffs because of guys like Jokic. It's going to be fucking sick to watch. He's the man. Yeah. Like last night or on Wednesday night, you could say he had kind of an off night because he only. He went 14, 16 and 10. Kind of a bad night. Yeah, kind of a bad night for pedestrian.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like the, the few nights ago he only had eight rebounds and 13 assists, which, like, that sucks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How many?

[PFT Commenter]

How many?

[Big Cat]

He did have 40 points in that game, but yeah, kind of a bum.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to see him get a quadruple double.

[Big Cat]

Oh, with blocks? Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't. He's not like the biggest block.

[PFT Commenter]

Blocks or steals.

[Big Cat]

Steals. Yeah, he had the. The two or a Monday night he had 35 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists and five steals.

[PFT Commenter]

It's still a great game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's an okay great game.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like to see the quadruple double. I would also like to see. You think he's ever gotten a triple double in the first half? I don't know. I wonder what the fastest triple double that Yokesh has gotten is.

[Big Cat]

Fastest triple double. Let's see if we can get it. Jokic. Nicole. Jokic holds a record for fastest triple double in NBA history, achieving the feat in just 14 minutes and 33 seconds.

[PFT Commenter]

What the insane. In. In just over a quarter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 14 minutes and 33 seconds.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

How is that possible?

[Big Cat]

The previous record was 17 minutes in 1955. That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's amazing.

[Big Cat]

Jokers broke his own record in a game where he did not miss a single shot until the triple double was secured. Often to referred as one of the most unbreakable records in modern history. Jesus Christ.

[PFT Commenter]

We talked to Boban about him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we did. So, yeah.

[Boban]

The.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The next closest in the modern era is Russell Westbrook did it in 17 minutes and 35 seconds. 14:33 I. You know what? And this is not because he's in the hospital getting surgery. I actually totally defended be being too scared to play in Denver. I. I do you beat. That's. I'm looking at these Yokage stats. I'm like, why? I would never want to do that. I actually wants to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

I would go one further. I'd say it's actually a plus mark for Embiid. Like, intelligence.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, he's smart guy.

[Big Cat]

You know when you're beat before you're

[PFT Commenter]

beat, thinking man's basketball.

[Big Cat]

Don't even go, like, right, Max. Thinking man basketball. He's. I think the booth just cut out. I think the booth just.

[Memes]

I'm done. I'm done with this discourse today.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, the smartest thing you can do in life is know when to walk away.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And know when to run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or when to get wheeled off the court.

[Big Cat]

That's facts.

[Memes]

You haven't had a basketball team ever.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not true, Max.

[Hank]

Next year.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's not true. Not true, Max.

[Big Cat]

Like, you're building a monster right now,

[Memes]

and you're a fan of the Wizards.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

It's actually really funny to say just the word Wizards.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Wizards. I gave. I.

[Memes]

All right, fine. All right, fine.

[PFT Commenter]

If.

[Memes]

If they ever get good.

[PFT Commenter]

No, next year.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Next year.

[Memes]

I'm not a fan of the Wizard Wizards.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I might be there. There has been one time that the Wizards were fun and then Earth stars tried to shoot each other.

[Memes]

I started to watch that one, too. Yeah, It's a good one.

[Big Cat]

That one is a good one.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a really good way. I mean, what could have been with Gilbert Arenas and that whole crew? It was fun. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys. So the other. The last thing I had was. It's just transfer portal season for basketball. It sucks. Everyone's getting. Everyone's in the transfer portal, Max. You've been ravaged by it.

[Memes]

We got one guy back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Badgers are currently big, big.

[Memes]

Get back. Shout out. Tyler Perkins.

[Big Cat]

John Blackwell. Maybe going to Duke is gonna. Is gonna crush me. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we had. We had Con Canipple on Wake Up Barcelona this morning, and I asked him for you. I said, well, first I asked him how many times he saw you coming your pants when Duke lost. And then he was like, yeah, I think he. He rubbed that in too far.

[Big Cat]

But no. In my pants.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't rub it in. No. Like, in his face.

[Big Cat]

Oh. Oh, Flowing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You didn't rub the comments. You rubbed. You coming into his. Anyways, I asked him if just like, maybe one of his brothers can stay in Wisconsin. Yeah, well, they're his.

[Big Cat]

We're recruiting. Yeah, we're recruiting. The next.

[PFT Commenter]

His younger brother is. Is talking to Wisconsin right now.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

I just tried to put it in his ear.

[Big Cat]

Like, got to get him on pmt.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep one canipple in house.

[Big Cat]

Was he fun?

[PFT Commenter]

He's a good guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. I'm happy that you. I mean, he did choke himself last year.

[Hank]

They showed.

[PFT Commenter]

He did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. And we also have. One of my favorite parts of the transfer portal is the guys who. I think this. This happened with when the Badgers lost Chucky Hepburn because he had a Bucky tattoo. But did you guys see the Nebraska player who got a tattoo of. He got 28 and 7, which is the record Nebraska had this year. Kind of a weird tattoo. Anyway, and then he went in the transfer portal.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, maybe that was his way of being like, dude, I'll always love you guys. What a special season that is. I'll even get it tattooed. All right, See you.

[Big Cat]

I feel like 28.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Seven.

[Big Cat]

You can't. That's not good enough.

[PFT Commenter]

Better than getting 187 on your arm.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. But, like, you got to be like 31 in 3. 31 and 4.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, 28. But you should just get the bracket tattooed.

[Big Cat]

I know. Like, you just skip Nebraska.

[PFT Commenter]

If I. If I won a college basketball national championship, I would get the entire 6018 bracket tattooed across my back.

[Big Cat]

You'd be like the Indianapolis Marriott.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. It would be the. You ever seen the movie Red Dragon?

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah. Great movie. Underrated movie.

[PFT Commenter]

Great, great movie. My entire back would just be covered with a tattoo of the bracket, and I would just circle. Circle myself in the middle. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach, do you have anything else for us before we get to Jerry o'? Connell? And then we're gonna have Bobon. Good game coming up tonight. We got a Celtics, Knicks, 6:30. Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Any predictions? I'd like to predict Knicks win.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Hank.

[Hank]

I'd like to predict the Celtics.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow. We got memes. Can you break the tie? I would also like to see the Knicks win, but. Okay. I think this is a feel out game for both teams. A feel out game. What happens in a feel out game?

[Hank]

Well, Dylan Brown's out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Stairway. So it's mainly for Tatum. Knicks haven't played Tatum this year.

[Big Cat]

Got it. You got to feel. You got to feel body on Body. Yep. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Touch hands.

[Big Cat]

Are we going to lose the Sixers Celtics first round matchup.

[Memes]

Are we on Sixers might not even get the seven seed.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So you got the flyers, though.

[Big Cat]

So we are going to lose it, is what you're saying. I don't want to lose it, but we're going to lose.

[Memes]

I mean, there's a lot of things that need to happen.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The.

[Memes]

The hope is not. The hope for it is still there.

[Big Cat]

But who do you guys have left?

[Memes]

We have the Rockets tonight without Embiid, and that'll put us in a tie for this, for the eight with. If we lose tonight, we'll be tied with the eight. And then we have two tanking teams.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't know, the tanking has, has somehow managed to increase in the NBA.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Like we, we talked about a couple shows ago, but their teams, they got caught fouling while they were up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the fourth quarter.

[Big Cat]

No, it's nuts. And yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm watching it because the, the Bulls are. They won a game the other night. It's like, why did you just win a game? That hurts us. What are you doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Big time. There's also. I don't know how to talk about this news, but the Department of Justice has opened a probe into the NFL over the TV deals that they have and the streaming rights. Oh, Zach, would you mind reading an article about it and then recapping it for us? Because I, I reached out to Florio to get a very dumb explanation that I could understand, and his explanation actually made me, like, not understand it at all. It made me more confused in it.

[Big Cat]

They try to grab some spark notes for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This is what. This is what Florio says. It's part of the NFL's effort to get the networks and Amazon to pay more for settled deals. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I get to the bottom of. For Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we need, we need a detailed dive into this act.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Head first, get to the bottom of it. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Jerry o', Connell, PMT of Budsman, and then Bobon. And we'll finish with Fire Fest. Okay. Before we get to Jerry O'. Connell. DraftKings DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner. The NBA puts you right in the middle of basketball's biggest star driven moments. The moments when the season is on the line, seating's up for grabs, and the stars who want it most. Takeover. Every game matters now. Stars are pushing harder playing longer, leaving everything on the floor. And with DraftKings, you're ready to move when they do. Bet Player Props bet live from the opening tip to the final possession. Every bucket, every dime, every late season takeover matters. And DraftKings sportsbook keeps you connected as the action unfolds. New Sportsbook customers bet just $5. If your bet wins, you'll get 300 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKing Sportsbook Abuse code take so you're ready for the moment. That's code take. Turn five bucks into 300 in bonus bets. If your bet wins. In partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours. We're also brought to you by our gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MYRESET New York Call 877-8-HOPE and wire. Text HOPE and WY Connecticut.

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Left facing technology. The cans are made for lefties. The box is made for lefties. It's the lefty Lockwood pack. Go get it today.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question, Hank.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Left hand up. If you're not a lefty, can you still buy the pack for like a lefty friend?

[Hank]

You can.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But yeah, it's a collector's item.

[Big Cat]

You could buy it for a lefty friend, but I would be worried about getting it into your car if you're not a lefty.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because like like picking it up as a non lefty. It's not built for right.

[Hank]

Well, you buy it online so you can only buy it online ship to you.

[PFT Commenter]

So lefties with your left hand reach. Reach across. Yeah.

[Hank]

And also like it's one of those things where you. You might not be a lefty now, but you can buy it and have it. And then if you ever.

[Big Cat]

Let me see the pack. Give me the pack. Oh, shit. I could be a lefty.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that. I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm holding it with my left hand right now.

[PFT Commenter]

You should try to switch to left handed baguette. Well, no good content.

[Big Cat]

See, I tried to. I tried to put in my right hand and I dropped right away.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not for right.

[Big Cat]

It's left handed technology. All right, so go get a twisted tea today. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Okay. Here he is, Jerry o'.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Connell.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our fantasy expert, Jerry Oconno, who has now gotten a new title. He is. Pardon my take on Budsman to tell us what we got wrong. This is. I realize this, Jerry, like something happened in the last, I don't know, probably six months where I'm like, jerry's just part of our life forever. And he's just. You're just. We're not getting rid of you and I love you so much, but you're just part of our life forever, which is what it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone should have a friend like Jerry o'. Connell.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that.

[PFT Commenter]

That tells you the painful truth sometimes.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's why we love you, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

And he's in his pool for everyone's watching on Netflix. He is in pool right now. He's having a great. He's looking great. He's maybe. How many laps did you do today, Jerry?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I do my. I do my 20 minutes. Every morning. I come in, I do 20 minutes.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm just getting ready for the. I'm getting ready for the bachelor party. It's just. Listen, guys, it's just a simple pool. It's a simple Southern California pool. It's not like an adults only, like, special spa exclusive, $2,000 a night. It's just a simple, not heated pool. There's no, like, fountain squirting around.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No hot tub.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

No hot tub.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No rooftops. Nothing. Nothing. Crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Guys, thank you. Thank you so much for letting me be a part of this. It's funny. It's been a crazy week. It's been a crazy week, obviously for everybody, but for some reason, it's been really crazy for part of my take, like this story. You. You have to admit, and I'm good. First of all, anything I say today is alleged, okay? When this is being read in a courtroom, I want it to be read that I said any, Any alluding we make to toward an affair or a relationship is alleged. Allegedly, there is an affair going on. We have no proof. There's just some finger locking.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's some dancing on a rooftop.

[Big Cat]

What if I say. Can I, Can I. I don't have to say alleged. If I say that, you know, just finger locking with your boys, you can say that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I'm saying if I allude to an affair today.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Jerry O'Connell]

When I. When this is being read in a courtroom. Yeah. Those guys are finger locking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hey, listen, who hasn't gone to a private.

[PFT Commenter]

This is what we do.

[Big Cat]

Hotel. A sex hotel two and a half hours away from Scottsdale to fingerlock.

[PFT Commenter]

And Jerry, also we can read into the record, you're a very successful famous actor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, this is a monologue that you're doing. It's a character.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This is, this is. No, guys, this is really me talking. I'm just. But I'm just saying it's an alleged affair. It is so funny. Guys, if you. If. And, And I should ask this of everyone in the room, especially people who are about to get married, okay? Because it's funny who's in a relationship there. Big cat is. Max is about to be married. Yes.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, remember you met my kids.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I know. I. I hung out at your house. I taught them. I was talking to them about what Nikki Smokes was doing at the summer.

[Big Cat]

The exact quote was in front of my four and two year old was, do you really think this Nicky Smokes guy's a rapist? And I was like, jerry, it's my four and two year old right here.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, guys, enough bullshitting. Let's. Let's get to the nitty gritty because it's been really funny. It's actually been. It's been fun hearing you guys this week because it's been really tough for both of you. It's been really hard. Like, you guys aren't allowed to talk about this. And Wednesday show was the most insane part of my take show because no offense to Max Homa, who was a great guest and very, very, very, very special guest. It was like I couldn't listen to anything else after that news dropped.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And while you guys have been really put in a tough position, let's just acknowledge who's really put in the tough position in this alleged situation that's happening meme, which is the what, fellas?

[Big Cat]

The finger lock.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Not memes. No. Who is in the toe? Who is in the worst position here, Guys?

[PFT Commenter]

Diana, hey, physically, Max.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Children's children.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that. I agree with that. That part is sad. I agree.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. So let's just acknowledge that.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Good acknowledgment.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. That said, if you guys ever see my wife finger locking with Todd Monkin or Bean Steichen or Kevin Stefanski, I want you to go full. Full in. None of this. Oh, we know Jerry. We know Rebecca. We can't. Yeah, we don't know.

[Big Cat]

We don't know Rebecca. So she.

[PFT Commenter]

You've.

[Big Cat]

You've banned her from talking to us.

[PFT Commenter]

What would.

[Big Cat]

What about you interlocking with someone famous?

[PFT Commenter]

What.

[Big Cat]

What would you want us to do there? Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Like.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, great question, great question. I gotta tell you, and this brings up a very interesting point, okay, Because I found the finger locking. I didn't see the finger locking photos until later. I just saw the. I just saw the pool ones.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is finger locking more intimate? Okay, let's. Let's just bring up another similar example.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Coach. Coach. My coach, Coach Meyer, was filmed in a bar putting, not interlocking fingers, but maybe putting a finger in a young lady's anus. Remember that?

[Big Cat]

Knuckles deep.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the old Chinese finger trap.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. But it was actually in. It was in the pants. It was, like, in the.

[PFT Commenter]

It's wedged. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

In the anus. Right?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if it was in the pants. It was on the. It was brushing the anus.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a coed's anus. Yeah. It was being touched.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is very funny, too, because Urban Meyer, I, like, always forget.

[Memes]

Like, stop sniffing your fingers.

[Big Cat]

Urban Meyer is a co worker now.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, is he really?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, so you guys can't.

[Big Cat]

No, I just said. He didn't.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hold on a second. I'm doing work, dude. I'm doing work. Just give me a second.

[Big Cat]

Was that your dog?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, gosh, yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, well, I have another dog, too here for. For those on Netflix, if you want to get your money's worth. Come here. Come here, Come here, come here. Come, come, come. Come here.

[Big Cat]

Train your dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Your dog doesn't respect you. Yeah, gotta work on that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Anyway, okay, what is more. Let me ask everyone in the room, what is more. Internet? I mean, what is more. What is more intimate? The finger locking or what Urban Meyer did? Because this is a very good question. It seems this alleged affair. Alleged affair was premeditated, meaning someone made a reservation. Two people drove out, they met up, they went back to meetings. That's what the timeline Allegedly seems to Be if this alleged affair actually happened. Or is it less offensive that you just happen to be in a bar in Ohio and you put a digit in somebody's anus.

[Big Cat]

What is more.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What is more to you as a spouse? What would be more offensive? Because I gotta tell you, I think the premeditation for me would be more offensive.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I actually, I tend to agree with you on that one. Like, anyway, everyone's been in a bar and, like, fingers slip into places that they normally don't go to. That's, you know, spur of the moment. You have a couple. Few, you know, a few too many twisted teas. Who amongst us. But yeah, the premeditation to, like, planning it out, like, getting online, if you have to, like, book a reservation and then. Yeah, that. That, to me, does feel like a bigger patrol.

[Big Cat]

It'd be like. It'd be like, you know, we. You know, Jerry, that some of us on this podcast struggle with our weight. Like, if we're on a diet and we happen to walk by a cookie and eat a cookie, it's like, well, you know, you slip up. But if. If. If we're on a diet, and it's like, hey, guys, I actually spent five hours last night baking a cake, and then I ate the whole thing. It's like, come on, we know what. You were doing it. You were planning it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, let's. Let's get into this, guys, because you really haven't talked about it. And if you feel uncomfortable with anything, just say, I feel uncomfortable with it. First of all, shout out to Sedona. It looks beautiful.

[Big Cat]

Incredible.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Those shots are. I mean, it's like prehistoric energy. By the way, I want to go there with my wife, maybe revitalize, do some fingy locking, like dancing on a roof. It looked. It didn't it look gorgeous?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's really. I drove through there a couple years ago, and it's. It's as advertised.

[Big Cat]

It looks like the perfect place to meet up with your bros.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, here's the big question. Here's the big question. Allegedly, if this wasn't alleged, if this was at. If this was a physical relationship that we've seen photos of, is this considered a workplace relationship?

[Big Cat]

So this is an interesting topic that you were texting with PFT and I about the other night, and you kept on saying that the NFL was going to get involved in and fire Diana, but she's not employed by the NFL.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, no, no, no. I did not say that. I did not say that. I said the NFL is going to get involved okay, you actually haven't answered my question. Is this a workplace relationship? Anyone can answer.

[Big Cat]

I think adjacent.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're not co workers, but they work. They work in the same place.

[Big Cat]

It's adjacent. It's adjacent. They don't have the same boss.

[Hank]

It would be like if you were just banging another actress, but not on the same. You guys weren't working on the same show.

[PFT Commenter]

Would that be absolutely right? That would be a workplace. Oh, not on the same show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That would be completely arbitrary.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that's exactly.

[Big Cat]

If you were just to like another actress.

[Hank]

Allegedly.

[Big Cat]

But not. But it not be the same show. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like if you and Glenn Close had a thing. Yeah. You're not. You haven't worked with her, correct? Close.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I've met her at an event.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

In Sedona.

[Jerry O'Connell]

An event? No, I met her at an event in New York, actually. Christopher Reeves son's event. It's a. It's a wonderful organization. I met her at an event.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds like you guys have spent a lot of time together.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, let's just say. Let's just say that night. And this is. This did not happen because I don't want to offend. Glenn Close has children. I have children. I don't want to get anyone in trouble here. Let's just say Glenn Close and I finger locked hard that night. Just knock to knock. Knock to knock. Would that be considered. I was being paid that night?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Would that be considered. Would that be considered the workplace?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say, no, I don't think so. It's somebody else's workplace.

[Big Cat]

I don't. If you don't have the same employer, I think it's. It's hard to say that that's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's adjacent and relationships with, like, reporters and. And the people that they cover. I don't. I don't think that they're co workers. They. They share the same space sometimes, but I. It might be each person's workplace, but not a shared workplace.

[Big Cat]

Right. Like there's, you know, you share. Reporters and sources share space. Like, whether it be stadiums in the venue and sex hotels at Sedona. Like, they share. They share places.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right. You guys really didn't answer that question, but that's okay.

[Big Cat]

I think we didn't want it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Let's just be serious for a moment, because this is like some serious. Okay, okay. Does this. It. Let's just say I'm HR and I look into this situation. Does the disclosure. Hey, guys. This Isn't a laughing matter.

[Big Cat]

You're wearing a Speedo in a pool right now. And you don't understand. They don't have the same employer.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Does they? Kind of. Are they the NFL, I believe, under that umbrella. Okay, okay. Hey, guys. Answer this. Answer this. Does this. Does this alleged affair. Alleged affair hurt their companies that they individually work for?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yes. You can make sure that argument.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I just. I think it's fun. Jerry, I'm laughing because there is a lot of bad parts of this story and you're very hung up on, like the HR part, which I. They don't have the same employer.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It is an HR situation, Big Cat. It is a work.

[Big Cat]

It might be.

[Memes]

There's a conflict of interest.

[Big Cat]

For sure.

[Memes]

For sure. Allegedly.

[Big Cat]

But it's not two co workers.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, okay, okay. And answer this. How does this. Because this will make a little more sense maybe to all of you.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tell me how this would hurt their potential. How would this alleged affair hurt their employers?

[Big Cat]

Bad. Yeah. No, I agree. It's embarrassing. It's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Spell it out for me.

[Big Cat]

Spell it out for Diana. It's like, you know, her job as a NFL insider journalist. Like, there's a lot of conflicts of interest for Coach Rabel. Same thing. Like, there's a lot of conflicts of interest if they're having a relationship like this and they didn't disclose it. So you're right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right. Maybe we should ask Max this question. How is this going to affect. They also. They're not possibly next season.

[Big Cat]

They did say they're not. They said they were just. They just finger locked next season.

[Memes]

I. The one thing that I think that will affect, I think Diana will be doing a lot less reporting of A.J. brown to the Patriots going forward. Yes, that's the one thing that I think it will affect.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think she could do more, though, so.

[Memes]

Correct. But I think it'll now turn to.

[PFT Commenter]

To zero. Probably zero amount Patriots.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's probably a fair. A fair assumption. Yeah. But Big Cat was making a good point. It's like they. It's. They don't. First of all, they work for two different companies. And if you're saying, like, what would the impact on her if there was an alleged affair, what would that be? It would. I guess you could make the argument it would affect subscriptions to the New York Times if people are. To the Athletic. If people don't believe what she's saying. That would be like the business implication, if that's what you're looking for.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, I'M just looking for an HR person who works at a company.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm very confused about what you're asking.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This is what I'm asking. Is this an HR situation? Is this a workplace relationship?

[PFT Commenter]

The athletic is. The athletic has also said that they like have her back. So I don't think that, I don't think that the athletic HR department is involved yet.

[Big Cat]

Do you want us to make it an HR because we have an HR rep at Barstool. We could get her involved.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I, I think this is. I, I can't, I can't imagine that HR is not involved in this situation. Now listen, here's another big thing. Here's another big thing. Whatever happens to. Who do you think with. If this alleged situation is real, who do you think is in more trouble?

[PFT Commenter]

Probably Diana.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, definitely 100% Diana. Because it's a, it's the NFL Insider journalist part of it that is very much in question.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Now, I'm really sorry to get a little deep here, but we do have to bring gender into this because there's two different genders that are here. Okay. Don't you think that whatever happens to Diana reciprocal equal thing has to happen to Coach Rabel?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

With this alleged affair.

[Big Cat]

But can I ask, can I just ask a follow up question before we get to that?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You said two different genders. Your wife and your, your two daughters. Are they going to be upset that you said that?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, you're making a joke that to a podcast I did with Bill Maher. I'm sorry I cheated on you. I'll never do it. I already said I'm never doing a podcast again. Oh, gosh, it's so funny. People text me all the time, will you do my podcast? And I just get to write back. I don't do podcasts anymore, by the way.

[Big Cat]

You know what you should start doing? You start having. You should send them to Zach. Zach can screen them for you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I am never, I'm never doing a podcast again. They now on the Everything app. Call me a fw. Guys, I swear, let me just tell like the MAGA people. I swear, I don't like to watch Zach. My wife. That's not what I'm into. Okay? I've never been into it. You can stop calling me an F word cuck. It's just not my thing. Okay? My thing is. Pardon my take.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

To answer your question, which you again didn't answer.

[Big Cat]

I think it should be. Yeah, absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think if you're just talking in terms of like, what would the right thing to do be. I think equal punishment. If. If it's like a workplace violation like you think, ideally people would be judged the same way in this alleged situation, regardless of their gender. Ideally.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, hey, listen, I don't think there should be any punishment. I. I believe live and let live. And if people want to do this, they have to deal with their stuff personally. But what do you foresee. As if any. Any. Any reactions by their employers? What do you. What do you think is going to happen?

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I was saying that the athletic. They made a statement in that article. They had her back. So I don't know that the athletics going, like, unless there's something else that happens. I don't know that they. Because I'm not a lawyer. But if you take action against an employee and you're found to have done that prematurely without enough evidence, then you could get sued by that person. So the New York Times has a legal department that I'm sure is like, way bigger than I could even imagine. So they're probably taking things super slowly. And same thing with the Patriots. I think that like. Like, if. If there's like a punishment or whatever you want to call it, it would probably have to be if there was something else that happened that corroborated

[Jerry O'Connell]

is. I mean, Max sort of touched on this. Like, can Diana cover the Patriots ever again?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. It's going to be tough for her going forward. Like, just being honest. Like. Like, it's. It's not. None of this is good. So. And I think if you're a. If you're asking, like, what exactly is next, I think they're probably going to try to just keep going and hope the Internet keeps moving and they'll have to deal with jokes forever.

[PFT Commenter]

And I mean, Hank, I don't want to point any fingers at the Patriots organization, but given what Vrabel has told to busting with the boys in the past, if you guys had won the super bowl, this wouldn't even be a question.

[Big Cat]

True.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's Hank's fault.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, you know, this is actually an interesting point. And Hank, you've got to say something here because this really affects you.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you've been a little quiet on this whole thing. That is a great point about winning the Super Bowl. Let's just say the Patriots have a tougher schedule than last season. Some people say they had an easy schedule last season. I'm not one of those people, but let's just say they go 02. Okay. Like, Hank, what Noise. What noise is happening now after this situation?

[Hank]

02, it would be no noise. My. My real issue or concern as a Patriots fan is is

[Big Cat]

who hired a

[Hank]

photographer to get these pictures.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get.

[Big Cat]

Because that's all, like, there.

[Hank]

That took these pictures.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Painted them in a light where it looked as bad as it could possibly be and blasted them to the world.

[Big Cat]

He's being evasive.

[Hank]

Jared cares that much and has that much, like, memes.

[Big Cat]

Memes talk.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's your only concern as a Patriots fan.

[Big Cat]

Oh, let me stop questions.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm running this. No, Hank. No. Answer my question. What happens to the noise next season if the Patriots go, oh, and four, it gets louder. Does this become a distraction? Answer the question.

[Hank]

No, this will not. This will be an afterthought by the time the season starts.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't get Hank to admit it. I'm just gonna. I'll let you know. You can keep pushing, but Hank's already dug in on the no answer. But. Yeah, I think that this is a non story. Vrabel said this is out of context

[Hank]

characterization, and I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank always knows that. He's got the they hate us because they ain't us button that he can press.

[Hank]

Jerry, my coach said that this is a bad representation of what. What the situation was, and that is my stance as well.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, can I ask a question real quick of you?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What would you say is the impact? And could you maybe give us a little fantasy preview of the AFC East? What's the impact there?

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's a reference for those who maybe. For those who are maybe just like new listeners because you have Netflix and you're like, what is this show? Who's the shirtless guy in this pool? Is this. Is this euphoria? Season three? I'm their fantasy expert, and every time I come on, I do a two hour. I do a two hour breakdown of the league, but we have. We have more. We have more pressing things to talk about here.

[Big Cat]

The fantasy always.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what, Hank, Let me. Let me ask you something, and let's see if Hank can answer this question. How does. Because the Patriots seem to be. Seem to have a lot of these distractions, how does this compare to the orchids of Asia situation?

[Big Cat]

Well, that one was confirmed.

[Hank]

That one was confirmed. You know, that was.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, we never saw the tape.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Jerry, we have a long standing policy on this show. Before we believe anything, we got to see pnv.

[Big Cat]

I've always said that.

[PFT Commenter]

Or H on P or HRP is fine, but.

[Big Cat]

Or H. H until hand in hand.

[PFT Commenter]

Until we see that. Well, H and H could be it. That could be just Italian rebellion.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm actually surprised that Max hasn't defended Netflix.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Now you can say hand on penis. You're on Netflix. There's no more. We're not on YouTube anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. It is true that.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

Max. There's an easy out here. Well, I don't even know where Max lands on this, but, like, what if that's just. That was just an Italian hello. The Italians just are. They're touchy, sensual people.

[Hank]

Also, we won the super bowl that year, so this could be, like, you know, start a championship DVD situation.

[Big Cat]

Do you think this picture makes the championship dvd?

[Hank]

Yeah, maybe like a pre. A precursor.

[PFT Commenter]

Starting the championship dvda.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wow. So, Hank, you have nothing. Like, what's your final answer with how does this compare to that situation? It's.

[Hank]

That was worse because it was in the playoffs. This. That was more of a distraction because it was in the playoffs. This is. We're in. We're in April. By the time the season starts, we're not even going to be talking about this.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I'm gonna bring up something that's. I'm gonna bring up something that's kind of a bummer here. For those who aren't familiar off the

[PFT Commenter]

lawn, Jerry just had Olivia Nuzzy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Olivia Nuzzy was a reporter for Vanity Fair that got into a digital relationship with rfk.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you mean digital as in fingers or as in online?

[Jerry O'Connell]

So many fingers. So many fingers, so little time. No, an emotional. Like, I think they were just texting each other.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And she was let go.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think it was more than that. Yeah, I think it was more than just texting each other.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Jerry, was it. Was it. Was it physical?

[Hank]

The senator of South Carolina.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Also the governor of South Carolina. Yeah. There's a couple guys. She was involved. I know where Jerry's going. It's like a, like, breach of trust, journalistic thing. I think we can all agree that sports is not politics. So. And there's going to be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So this situation is different because that deals with politics and this is sports. So sports aren't serious.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's a little bit more serious if it's, like, the people that are running the country. I don't think that's crazy to say that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. But let's talk about who took these picks, because I really do want to know who took these picks, and I want to get to the bottom of it. And I studied them a lot. And the question is, and I want everyone, including Max, including Memes, to jump in here. Who benefits from these photos getting out

[Big Cat]

the Eagles? Maybe a.

[Hank]

Someone a. A upand cominging NFL insider.

[Boban]

Yeah. Huh.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wouldn't they have put their name. Hey, Hank. Wouldn't.

[Hank]

They're trying to take Diana off of her. There's. There's two. You're either going from the who wants to take down Rassini, the brave one.

[Big Cat]

I don't like who wants to take down variable.

[Hank]

As bad as it is, it. I don't think it's going to affect his job the way it's going to affect Diana's job. You know what I'm saying?

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's up, Hank. Hank, that's up.

[Big Cat]

Up.

[Hank]

It's not.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not saying what you're. I'm not saying you're up. I'm saying in society, that's up.

[Memes]

It is up. It's definitely.

[Big Cat]

It's up.

[Memes]

It is.

[PFT Commenter]

Why is that not up, Hank?

[Hank]

Because Rabel's job is to coach football players.

[Memes]

Yes, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Hank]

Diana's job is to get inside sources and like be an ins. Like that part is.

[PFT Commenter]

That is.

[Memes]

But if. If d. If what people are saying

[Hank]

about Diana, one of his players, that would be. That would be in the similar.

[Memes]

You know, he's using the media to his advantage. That is fucked up.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The A.J. brown. So the Eagles.

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

There's a theory out there. The Eagles could have maybe taken the pictures because the A.J. brown trade rumors was, you know, A.J. brown's trade, his value was getting deflated recently. He's thinking.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But, but wait, are.

[Big Cat]

Are you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Are you talking to me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we were trying to.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Were you talking to Hank?

[Big Cat]

We were trying to answer your question.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, sorry.

[Hank]

Teams, Teams, coaches, agents, always leverage. Try and leverage reporters as best they can.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Hank]

That's a tale as old as time.

[Memes]

Yes, but that's not.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let me just say.

[Memes]

Not.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let me just say right now. Let me. Let me just say right now because I've seen the. I've seen the memes is out there and everything. There is no way that someone at the Eagles organization that is a very, very, very special guest would ever have done this. I've seen those doctored up memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's just no way. He's a paisan. I'm not joking. Max. He ever take. He would never take photos of another man with another man's wife. It's something I never. I don't know him personally, but I can Say, without a doubt, there is no way he had anything to do with those photos. That's not how he would play, period.

[Memes]

Correct.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Was it. Was it just. Here's the thing. At first I thought, oh, it was just someone at the pool who maybe was an Eagles fan who was like, holy fuck, that's Ray Bull and Rossini in an alleged affair. But by the way, these things were fucking set up. There's photos from inside the restaurant. There's photos from outside the pool. There's photos when they're walking away. They. I, I believe they realized they were being photographed, and they've left separately from the pool, fully clothed.

[Big Cat]

And.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it's.

[Big Cat]

It's not like it's two and a half hours away from. From Phoenix. It's not like it's not, you know, oh, we just happened to walk by and see this. It feels like someone might have been tracking them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And also, I. I think Hank's kind of right in the fact that, that if you look at all the pictures that they have, if somebody's watching and observing them for hours, and those are the worst pictures that get put out. It feels like they were trying to find something, you know, And I don't think they found exactly what they were looking for. Like, no smoking gun.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You don't think they found a smoking gun?

[Big Cat]

I think they did. I don't know if you're locked.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that smoking gun?

[Big Cat]

I think the private. The private roof. Yeah, yeah. Was bad.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It was crazy. You know, I. I wonder if it could have been just someone because it is an exclusive hotel.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not something. I agree with him. It's not. It's not smoking gun. It's a gun. It's a gun. Someone is. Someone's got a gun. We're not sure if it's been fired. You would think that over the course of a few hours, they would have found something that's like. Like a little bit more salacious than the finger locking.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Pretty, pretty salacious. Pretty, pretty salacious.

[Big Cat]

I agree. Jerry, Is it. Would the setting, the rooftop. Beautiful rocks, by the way.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Gorgeous. I mean, by the way, like,

[Hank]

It's bad PR for the hotel. Maybe it was like the hotel trying

[PFT Commenter]

to like, subliminally advertise we're the affair hotel.

[Big Cat]

Look at this.

[Hank]

Look at these views we offer.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They were. They were staked out. So crazy. So crazy. You know, I do have to say, oh, God, I'm gonna be a little. A little rude, guys, and you should probably cut this part out. I just have to do it. Go off the. The. I will say the bummer this week, guys, I'm gonna be a bit of a bummer. Was the reason we really tuned into. Part of my take is that you guys talked about the. That none of the other mainstream media would talk about. And on. And on Wednesday's show, we sounded pretty mainstream, guys. I'm so sorry to say that.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, can I ask you a question about this? Because I. I've thought about it a lot and, and you know, I. I do think Wednesday, the. The immediacy. Like, it happened at 6pm we recorded it at 9pm It's a story where we know both people. I agree with you. Like, we should have joked about it more. We have joked about it since. But like, if you saw two people you know personally in this story and then like, were asked to comment immediately after, it would be a little awkward. Like, it was. It was a little awkward for us. Well, hand up.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think because all the parties affect everyone in that part of my take room except for the bears. It doesn't affect the bears, but no one gives a. About the bears.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're right. What's funny about the story, it's. It's like it was designed in a lab to make everybody in this room have a very strong, interesting reaction to it. And I think what we did on the show was we. We suppressed all the interesting reactions because we're so close to some of the people and it was immediate. When it happened, I. I told Big Cat the next day I came in, I was like, I think our big mistake was we should have joked about it right up front and then like, said our piece about why we won't dig too far into it right now. Yeah, we should have done. We should have done Soggy Sorrows. That's what we should have done.

[Big Cat]

It also would have been funny. Yeah, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's. It's a good thing that we can let, like, remember for the future. It's like in a weird. It's hilarious that this situation happened and our little podcast is so like, the tentacles reached so far into this story, but it also, at the same time makes it something that we felt very uncomfortable commenting on, like, right after it happened.

[Big Cat]

And Jerry, I think you actually went through a similar reaction when you. Because it took. It was a delayed reaction for you with the fingies. I. I read the story and I was like, oh, this isn't that bad. And then when I woke up, I was just like, what am I saying? Like, this is. Is. They're they're finger locking on a beautiful. Allegedly, Allegedly. Allegedly at a romantic hotel and hugging. And it's, it's, it's bad. You just have to admit it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's a bad. Look, I probably came off like a

[PFT Commenter]

little, a little on the white knight side of things, but it, it is because like, I don't know, it's a weird position for me to be in and I hope that it's not true. I really, really hope that it's not. Because I, I, I consider her a very close friend and she's definitely going through it right now. So it made it and it's all from her own doing. So it's not like I'm absolving her of anything, but it's just a weird situation where it's like if you're real life friends with somebody, you don't want to on them to score Internet points in front of the world. And so I felt like I needed to like just give it a couple days before I started.

[Big Cat]

I know. Which has happened on a non show day because I feel like our reaction would have been a little bit better.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This I understand and I hope that both of these parties know that we're not on them. Things happen. We completely understand. I really hope that nobody gets in trouble. I mean, obviously there's going to be some explaining to do, but I, I hope that nobody gets in trouble. Pft. You can cut this out. Have you been in communication with any of the parties?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I just sent a text to her after it happened. Just checking in on her, like as a person because I'm sure that she feels like everybody has abandoned her. So I just want to be like, hey, hope you're okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, we, I'm not friends with her. We follow each other on X. Whatever. But hey, Diana, we love you. Like, we love you. Okay? Nobody's, nobody's angry here. You too, Coach Rabel. You know, I mean, like, we're human. Happens, you know, I mean, it is a tough thing to ask human beings to not. Things happen, everybody, you know.

[Big Cat]

Have you worked yourself into a spot where you have to give a statement?

[PFT Commenter]

I think Jerry's put himself right in

[Hank]

the middle of this.

[Big Cat]

Put yourself in a play in a terrible spot where you're giving some statement. You don't have to say anything, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, I try to empathize.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, I agree.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, I mean, like, I try to empathize with people and I also

[Big Cat]

think there's an element.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It is, it is.

[Big Cat]

I was to say there's an element of you know, jets fans, Eagles fans have had a ax to grind for a while, so that they. They, they. They. They feel a form of vindication that they want. Want expressed on. On the show.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think we have a big, big representation in our audience of jets fans and Eagles fans.

[Big Cat]

So they're like, what the. Why didn't you go after him? And I get it. I get it.

[PFT Commenter]

I get that as a sports fan. Yeah. It just.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw people pointing out, too, that, like, as the show grows, we develop friendships in certain places, and then that limits what we feel comfortable joking about. We were going to joke about this eventually. It just is. Big Cat's right. Like, the immediacy of it made it very tough. But also, I feel like we've been pretty transparent in the past about, like, we're not going to. On Josh Allen. Yeah, we have. We. We're open about our biases, at least at time.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, I. I do. I understand from, like, a. An Eagles fan's point of view. This thing goes down and they're like, oh, yeah, can't wait to hear what the guys say about that. And we probably fell very, very short of what they were hoping to hear.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, you're mainstream. Whatever. It happens to the best of us. Jokes, everybody. Hank, let me ask you honestly. And please try. Try and answer this question. Let's answer one question today.

[Big Cat]

Make it the robot question. Jerry. Make it the robot question.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, because I have a. I have a couple more questions. You can cut this up.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't play Jerry o'. Connell.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but I was saying, like, if

[Jerry O'Connell]

you have to be up late tonight.

[Big Cat]

But, Jerry, I'm saying Hank has to answer the rollback question. You can't not answer the rollback question. That's legally binding. So if you make it that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, Hank, We. We've seen in the. Oh, you know what? I'll make this about golf. We've seen in the past golfers who have been busted in infidelity situations, and we've seen it negatively impact their game. Okay. I'm someone whose initials are Tiger woods comes to mind. Will this alleged situation affect Coach Rabel's game?

[Hank]

I mean, it probably will to some degree. It happened. Yeah, I would say it might.

[Big Cat]

Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

[Boban]

Hello.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hello.

[Big Cat]

His answer was it might.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's the end.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's as much as you're gonna get from. Hey, I was shocked that he said that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't.

[Hank]

The thing is, Jerry, like, I. Again, like Coach Rabel said, that this is a misrepresentation of the situation. And until he says otherwise, that's what I'm going with. So based off of his answer, I would actually say no.

[PFT Commenter]

So you just talked yourself out of it.

[Memes]

But you already said it was a good. Yeah, you had it much.

[PFT Commenter]

Talked his way out of it. You should have cut your losses, Jerry. I guess. Walk away while you're ahead.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I gotta tell you, we. We record this on something called the Riverside app, which is an app I have to download every time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Because I'm sure it's like taking all my information from. Sorry. And I won't turn it off. Max, I. I know how this goes, but I thought for sure it froze up, but I forgot I'm talking to Hank and he's gonna freeze up on me. Okay.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Coming from.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Thank you for being Jerry.

[Hank]

No pro. No, no, no problem.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is he making fun of my stutter

[Big Cat]

or my wi Fi double.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a double punch.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, sorry, I'm at home. I gotta tell you also, I don't heat my pool and I'm free. My nipples are never been so hard. I'm freezing. I'm like shivering.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Giving the Netflix people a little something. Memes. Memes. Tell us, what's the one post that you wanted to just rip away, but Dave Portnoy wouldn't. Wouldn't let you rip it?

[PFT Commenter]

I started photoshopping just like a bunch of memes with Vrabel sweater on. So like Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods. Like Tiger Woods.

[Big Cat]

Dan.

[PFT Commenter]

I had a bunch of other videos, but they're just saved. Sad.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know the crazy thing about memes? You got to do them at the moment or sort of over. Send them to me. Will you send them to me?

[Boban]

We have a.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We have a texting relationship. Okay, Max, Because I know it. I know you're. Max is going to figure out a way that this is going to him over. How has this situation you over Max?

[Memes]

I. This situation hasn't. Definitely hasn't me over at all.

[Big Cat]

Max, if anything, this is a positive for you.

[Memes]

Listen, I don't think. I don't think any of this is a positive. It's a very. It's very different.

[PFT Commenter]

Max is family first.

[Big Cat]

Can I speak for Maxo real quick? Can I just.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Can I get a. Can I defend my. My guy Max for a second? Say one positive. Do we believe the two sodas was. Was real?

[Memes]

There's a lot of people that wanted me to comment on that.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, you do have to. It throws things into question.

[Memes]

It throws things in question of Course, I don't know. I still feel, like, uncomfortable talking about it because. Because we know Diana and there's. You know, we talked about it at the start, the family and the kids. Professionally, I'm speaking, it's.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Memes]

Eagles fans are. Have a little bit of vindication, and I agree with Eagles fans on that. But I. I still don't like joking too much about it because it's personal, and I don't like joking about things that have, like, so many family implications of that.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Memes]

You know, is under control and every and everyone is happy. I don't know. It's a. It's an awkward thing for me to joke about.

[Boban]

Out.

[Memes]

But pers. But professionally, vindication for sure. For the. For the Eagles. I don't really care about the two sodas thing. Eagles for sure. Eagles for sure.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So vindication. So. So you don't feel over? You feel vindicated?

[Memes]

Yeah, no, nothing about it was definitely not over. It's like a lot of Eagles fans were texting me, being like, oh, this is why. This is why. This is why. And whether that's true or not, that's just the public perception right now.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, guys, listen, now that we've done all that, I wanted to get into something. I want to start with the AFC East. Let's start with the Jaguars. Okay? Hey, guys, I actually. This is a little roback thing.

[Big Cat]

I have.

[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Big Cat]

Max took off his head. Max took the head. He's got his hands over his ears.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. You created the PMT story that has us all rocked. Racini and Mike Racini, Mike Racini and Mike. Wasn't sure much was happening until we saw them. Fingies interlocked. Rossini and Mike. Rossini, Mike. Rossini and Mike. Yeah, this all does not look great. Seems you both made a big whoopsies. Allegedly. Rossini, Mike. Racinia, Mike. Rossini, Mike. Although in those photos, we got to see both your tootsies. Thank you. Rossini, Mike. Rossini, Mike Racini. Mike. Yes. These are tough times for you both. Things are about to get a little rough. Ricinia. Mike. Racinia. Mike. Racinia, Mike. But we still don't have an orchids of Asia vid where we would both get to watch you getting jerked off. They destroyed that tape. Rossini. Microcini. Micronium. Mike.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Somebody snuck pics of you. Some paparazzi. Some dirty rat. Racini. Microini. Micro. Mike. And while the images were shocking, still haven't heard much from PFT and Big Cat Mainstream. What happened to Huey?

[Big Cat]

Shut up.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Here on pmt, we encourage all to live their lives with no regrets. Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. Grassini and Mike. Let's hope after all the dust settles, this means AJ is going to the Jets. All right, guys.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, you're the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, you're the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Arm Budsman, we love you.

[Big Cat]

Great job.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you for holding us accountable, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, guys. Guys. Hey, guys. Hold on a second. I gotta show you. I have a special. This is a preview for Max. I'm so excited for your bachelor party. Hold on a second. I'm sort of freezing because this pool is so cold. I gotta show you this bathing suit, but.

[Boban]

Oh, no.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hold on one second. Just like my. My pee. I gotta get some blood flowing. This water is freezing. I swear to God, my dick is bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we gotta.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Make it an accurate representation.

[Big Cat]

We'll make it bigger.

[Boban]

On.

[Big Cat]

Oh, look at that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tiffany Gomez. Tiffany Gomez. Tiffany Gomez. Sedona. Sedona. Tootsies.

[Big Cat]

Hanks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Tootsies. Okay, here we go. Finger locking. Finger locking. Okay, here we go. I got some blood flow. Check this bathing suit out. You ready?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Memes]

That's my face.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I swear my dick is bigger. I swear my dick is bigger.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. For people who are listening, it's a bikini. It's a.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a, a.

[Big Cat]

It's a small bathing suit. What do you call this? The nut huggers? What do you call those Bungee smugglers? That's a banana ham. Banana hammock. With Max's face and the pigtails all over it. He got a custom made. Jerry, can you get one of those for all of us?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we need to. We need to bring those to Vegas.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I ordered. I ordered three. Should I get more?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, get all of them. Get like 20.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How many?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we need 20. We're all gonna have to get in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, unfortunately, we're also gonna have to start selling those on the barstool store.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, guys, I do have to tell you, my dick is bigger. This water. I don't heat my pool. I can't afford that. It's freezing. My dick is way bigger than that. Yeah, like for those on Netflix. My dick is bigger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, remember, Jerry, all this was alleged.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, you saw my. You saw my dick. It's just it's very small because it's like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's like your dick size right now is alleged.

[PFT Commenter]

It's an alleged penis. It could have been a clit.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not sure.

[Big Cat]

All right, Jerry, we love you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I love you.

[PFT Commenter]

I love you, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

See ya.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest in studio. Recurring guest. We had a great time. When you're on the show last year. It is Bobon in the flesh. Great to see you. How you doing?

[Boban]

I appreciate. I'm doing great because I'm here first time it was on Zoom right now we are here and I love it. I love it. I love it more. I love it more personal.

[Big Cat]

And you've been on a crazy. I feel like I've seen you everywhere in the last week or so. You were at the final four. You were at the championship game. You were in the student sections. What was that experience like? Because you didn't go to. You know. Had you been around any college basketball before?

[Boban]

Look, first time. First time I was like. I was like this year first time on the college game. Like I was one time before this. But you know, it's not really like this serious college college student section. It's really cool. Like you know, like you have all this. All this like cheating they have like when. When the guy get the ball everybody clapping. They have on their own cheating their own. Their own. They're all like place what they call the only name sign. How. How they're cheating with how they're cheating for their teams. And it's amazing amazing like when you learn all this type of stuff because I I changed couple student section and it's really tremendously amazing. Yeah. Like not like. Like I know a couple people get offended because I changed too much. But the point like I want. I want to discover what is the. What is the best one. That that's. That's everything point about that. And of course yesterday. Yesterday we was like. We was on much better final game game. What is like a first time ever see like 70000 people watching one game basketball game. Yeah. And it was like I couldn't believe that stadium stadium like this big arena exists.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

And like so many people come to watch that really big important game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you playing the. The triangle? I saw you in the Arizona band.

[Boban]

Oh, I killed there. Look. That's my band. Like you know like Arizona band have the best band. I know you guys. I know everybody have their own band. But this person my personally favorite because I was play. I was playing my first ever instrument in a band on college game. And I have the best. The best time of my life. You know. Like I played triangle. I was not good. I was terrible. We during the national anthem we supposed to stay there and I supposed to like. You know, you hear. You hear the drums and I want like. I want to put the spice with the triangle. But it didn't work well.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Because I'LL see the. I see the guys when the laughing. Laughing in a bed. But I saw the. I saw the sign like other people like, like this.

[Big Cat]

Did you curse Arizona? No, that was the worst game they played. No, wait, was it in the Final four? Oh, you was before.

[Boban]

I was before.

[Big Cat]

Well, you might have cursed them.

[Boban]

Look this, they lost. They lost couple games before I come. I. I go there after that I show up and they play the best they can. They play the best basketball ever. Of course, one game. One game is something like you can change if they play four games. I don't think they will lose like that. Let's go be honest. And they will compete to be. To beat them. Like if you play playoffs like in NBA. But one game change everything. Like somebody have bad day, good day, sickness, stomach problem, headache. Look, there's not excuse. But I know because I play sports. I know how, how you can feel how you can feel sometimes when you step on a court sport a lot of publicity, a lot of cameras, a lot of media, a lot of people talk. Oh, people talk bad stuff, good stuff. You know, somebody like somebody want you to feel like special than. Than basically like go from your comfortable zone or do tick tocks live before the game. That's not good. But you know, like, you need to get focused for the game and, and be. And be the best you can be. Because this is one time cap happen or maybe this year, maybe next year. Yeah, the same thing. But you know, like for some people, like first time ever and maybe last time ever, they will be like, they'll be like they have opportunity to. To take championship. Yeah, the ring.

[Big Cat]

Do you think you would have played college basketball if you were like, you know, the timing didn't work out, but now you see like Illinois. I don't know if you had a chance to talk to any of the guys on the team. They had guys from, you know, Serbia. They had guys from Baklin.

[Boban]

Yeah. Croatia. Croatia. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like in like that's kind of the trend now. Arizona, same thing thing. They had guys from overseas where like guys from overseas are. Are able to come and make money and play college basketball. It's pretty cool.

[Boban]

Yeah, pretty cool. I agree with that. Like, you know, make, make all this money on beginning of their life, you know, like, of course. What is your real price? Their price is real price. How much you can get in Europe is not even, it's not even close. It's not even like I think 10 of that of that. What you can make in Europe, you make here. What is Good. What is good for them? And I think you start.

[Big Cat]

Start.

[Boban]

Basically you start your career with some. With some money in your pocket. There's not some money. It's starting your career rich.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a lot of money.

[Boban]

You come from nothing, but you like get rich for. For two years playing in college. And what is a good part? You study. You study your knowledge and. And you put your education on high level. Even they pay you fortune to like.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Boban]

To like you can put you. You learn. You learn that all stuff to make a fortune. But basically they pay you to. You learn their stuff so you can make even more fortune. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

There's basically no rules now. You could probably go back and play college basketball in America.

[Boban]

Can I do it?

[Big Cat]

You might be able to.

[Boban]

No. Please. Check this.

[PFT Commenter]

Where would you want to go to school?

[Boban]

I don't. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you'd go to Purdue. You'd be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You'd be a Purdue center. No, I'll.

[Boban]

I'll go in Arizona.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. Arizona's a better choice.

[Boban]

Like you know, if coach don't put me in a game, I'll go with my band to. To. To. To like play triangle.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Because I think I'm. I'm practicing and be better. Better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What did you think about the like Michigan especially with Mara like that guy. You know, their rim denial was insane. And watching the game, how it just becomes such a big part of the game is that rim defense and having a guy who is your height or Mara's height standing there and being able to block all those shots.

[Boban]

True. You know, like our present by the height. It's for first, it's first, it's not easy second, when you have. When you have the skills to like to can move and change the shots. I remember, I remember when I was. When I was in San Antonio when Tim Dunk tell me Tim Duncan tell me he was like we're not here to block shots. We're here to change shots.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Like it was not about the. That's a part when you. When you play good defense. Not about. It's not about how blocks you have. It's about how. How many times you change that shot when they supposed to shoot over you. Because it's account the same same. They miss or block the same thing. Of course for your statistics, not the same. But contesting. Contesting shots. It's like same like almost like block shots sometimes they were so good. Like you know, he make good job. Congratulations. We continue move forward. But him there, him there, he have a present it's really not easy to even like, that paint is a little bit smaller than regular paint.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

What I figured out when I stay there and even like, they make. They make him more leveraged. So they can. They can. Can they can like play the defense? Of course not just for defense. I think for offense too. Like he have against Arizona, he have tremendous game. Like. Yeah. I was like, is this guy really exist? Is this, Is this real happen? Of course finals. Everybody here get nervous. You know, like, everybody. Everybody put their own efforts. But, you know, like, he really played good. He really played good. And. And I'm so. I'm super happy for him and for his team because they, they. They won national championship.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He had a great Final Four. And it's interesting you brought up your time in San Antonio. I feel like you were Wimby before Wimby doing the first Wimby.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When we came up in your footsteps.

[Boban]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Hey, I give. I give credit to myself. No. When we. It's like something. Something else. I can never see something like this in my life ever. Like you. I. And I like to watch because I play in Europe and every time when I. When I. I wake up, it's. It's basically the play middle of night. Every time I wake up, I check in game. I Checking of highlights, what he do, how he play and not just statistics like how he scored the bucket. For me, this is like. This is what he can do. Like, that's like. I think nobody can do. Like. Like really nobody can do. That's really like what when we walking do. Nobody can do. Like, that's, that's really. That's really that. That for him.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I feel like you. You have a better perspective than just about anybody else in terms of like looking at Wimby and seeing what he's doing and. And how hard it is to do what he's already done at such a young age. So, like, what is it about his game that you're most impressed with?

[Boban]

With everything. Like, with shooting, with all movement, how he. Like how he get low when he dripped the ball. Like, nobody really like, really steal the ball from him like that easy. Like how he put the ball on, like up on air, nobody can touch. And he dunked it so easy like, like. Or what surprised me the most. Okay, every. Every. Everything is else. Like, you know, like, like top people can do. But like, he like dunked behind the back alley. Oop, like running in fast break and just turned the head and they. They pass him the assist and he, like, behind. Behind the back, like, dunking. That's. That's crazy. Or between the legs, like, you know, never mind how I try to dunk between the legs. Like, they're never going to. It's. I. I try a couple times, but, you know, like. And I did a couple times, but I feel like it's not that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it looks different when he does.

[Boban]

When he. Do he look, like, really, like, really good?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

When I do. Don't look good.

[Big Cat]

Did you. Have you been able to watch, like, the other day, it was Jokic versus Wemby. It was so fun to watch. Obviously, you're rooting for Jokic. You're a friend of his. Did you see also the. Have you met Jokic's brothers?

[Boban]

Of course.

[Big Cat]

How scary are they?

[Boban]

No, they don't scare it all day.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but you're a friend. Did you see the clip? There was a clip where a guy, A fan was yelling, and Jokic's brothers were in a suite. And he. He basically, Yok's brother's like, sit your ass down right now. And the fan was like, okay, I'm sorry, sir.

[Boban]

I. I saw. But, you know, I think just. Just, like, they just. They just. He just protected, you know, like, he was like, just. Just because of the reason of that. They're super nice. They're super cool. They're super friendly. They're really good people. They're all family. It's really nice family. Family, you know, like, they just. Maybe they just, like, you can tell because you see two, three clips when they happen like that, but they're so protective, you know? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he's on your side, though. He's your friend, so that's.

[Boban]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, he's a good guy to have on your side.

[Boban]

No, he's a good guy to. To know. Okay. Yeah, he is good guy. When you. When you met him, you will see. You will see why I say that. It's the both of them, all three of them. Because, like, three brothers, all three of them, they're like. They're really good people. They come, of course, they're coming from great family. Family, and they just. They just protect him. Protecting their. His brother. This is. This is on. This is only maybe like, because in Serbia we used on that. Like, you're yelling on somebody that was like, yelling on you. That's, like, normal, like. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like just because of that and nothing else, I think, like, they. They're really good people.

[Big Cat]

Do you. Do you hang out with Jokic every summer when he comes, when he goes

[Boban]

back, of course we hang it out. We're friends.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do you go to horses?

[Boban]

Yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw he. Horses.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Yeah. But I never go to the race, but I saw the horses.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he. Yeah, I want to go to the races with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like the best time ever.

[PFT Commenter]

He likes the, the chariot races, right? The ones where you sit down.

[Boban]

When you sit down and behind the

[PFT Commenter]

horse, that poor horse gets back there.

[Boban]

I. I think he just. He just chilling and practice, but he don't, he don't race.

[PFT Commenter]

That's probably. It's probably good for the horse if it practices pulling him, then the jockey gets on. It's like super light fight.

[Boban]

No, but you know, like, he cannot, he cannot throw his career because of that. Like, he's just cheating and supporting his horse and of course his jockey.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So wait, how have you not gone to the horse racing with him? You just don't have any.

[Boban]

I didn't, I didn't. I didn't have time for that. And I gotta go. I need to go. I need to go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

This summer. This summer. Need to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It seems like the best time ever. Like, there's just once a summer we'll just get a clip of Jokic in like a tank top, drinking a beer, watching races. It's just been like this looks like.

[Boban]

And enjoying his life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, enjoying the hell out of.

[Boban]

Of his life. I love when I see him like, with a smile on face, enjoying that. This. You really see him, like, he really enjoyed that moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think. Do you think he. He enjoys playing basketball? Because there's been a lot of discussion about him because, you know, in the playoffs, the season drags on super long, and I think a lot of NBA players, by the end of it, they're ready to go home. They're ready to call it a season and, you know, take. Take a little break. But a lot of people look at Jokic and they say, like, oh, does he love playing basketball or does he just kind of tolerate rated?

[Boban]

He. He loved play basketball. He. He really enjoy. You can, you can tell on the game. You can tell on the game. Like, he really enjoy play basketball. All his shots, what he. What he make, all. What he do, all these triple doubles, what he, what he make. He's not easy to make.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Boban]

And. And like, never mind how, how like how hard you want to. You want to deny that on his face, but he really enjoyed to play basketball and he really good in every sports what he play? Like, we play video games. We play this. Like, he always. He always has have nice touch for everything. A nice and nice. Nice, like momentum use his brain to. To beat all, like, games, video games, basketball games, soccer games, water polo. Every. Everything what he touched, he want to play. He's really good in. In that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's a water polo player too.

[Boban]

He can play everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you played water polo?

[Boban]

Yes, I walk to the pool. No, I play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I heard it's.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like the hardest sport in the world. The world to play.

[Boban]

It's harder sport, but it's hardest. But I guess we. I think. I know we think are we the. We're the best in the world. Like Serbia it's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really?

[Boban]

Team on the world. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty sick.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it's. That. That's one sport that will make you very, very strong if you start playing at a young age. Right?

[Boban]

I believe I never. I. I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

When you were growing up, were you. Were you allowed to play with kids your age, like in. In the youth basketball league?

[Boban]

You know, I really want to know how. I really want to know if I have. If somebody have the clip about me, how. How I played basketball before, I really want to see it. But yeah, I don't know. And when I asked the friend, I talk about that, how I play basketball when I was. When I was kid, he was like, hey, you was good. He was good. Moving good. You was. Your touch is good. I was like, okay. I was like, I know. Let's, like, tell me. Tell me the truth. Don't tell me the. Don't tell me, like, fancy true. He said, no, no, you. You was good. You was not. You was not, like, moving like you're moving right now, but you was okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Was there a moment in your. When you're growing up, you're like, oh, I'm. I am good at basketball. Like, I am actually feeling confident that I'm. I'm getting better at basketball.

[Boban]

You know, I feel like. I feel like you never have that in your life. You know, like when you. When you work out because you want. You won't put your goals up, like, all the way to the sky, and you always. You're always missing something.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh.

[Boban]

Oh, I'm not good in this. Oh, I'm not good in this. Even, like, you start to be better in this. Practice on the summer and get better. Better, like, get your power, get your shot, get your movement, get your dribblings, get your footwork. You get better in everything and you're on the end. You're not satisfied because you always. You always think can be better. And on. On the end of the game, you. You will have like, really good game. You say I should have one more assist, I should have two more rebounds. I should make that layup. You know, like, we always. We always searching about that. Like how we missing little bit more. That's why. That's why the. The problem we have with comparatives. Comparatives with everything. Like, you put your standards little bit every time a little bit higher just to find. Just to find something to can fight for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What? So right now you're still. You're still playing as a goal to get back in the NBA. You're playing in the Slovenian League, right?

[Boban]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

How is that? What is it like?

[Boban]

It's very fun. We play. We play Slovenian league, and I believe league, it's like, it's like league when you play like ex Yugoslavia, okay. Like, you know, the Bosnia, Montenegro, Croatia, something from Romania. They play. They play one team from Dubai, which,

[Big Cat]

by the way, Yugoslavia. If Yugoslavia. I think we might have talked about this last time, but if Yugoslavia didn't break up, they would be the best country for sure in the world in basketball. Like thinking about all the guys like the Jokic and Luca.

[Boban]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And like everyone combined mind.

[Boban]

True. And we. And we were second. We were second in a world championship. We were second in. In Olympic games. Yeah. That's basically like. I think this is it. This, like, small missing tool we become first.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So. So the league is good. And are you like, your. The goal is to get back to the NBA or are you. How many more years do you think you're gonna play?

[Boban]

Until I feel good. You know, like the goal to become to NBA, you know, like, I have nine years. Nine years. I already talked 700 times about that. I have nine years. I need. I need one more year. I need year 10.

[Big Cat]

You should do a whole thing about. Yeah, year 10 in the pros.

[Boban]

Year 10 in the pro. I need. I need to do that.

[Big Cat]

He's raising his mic.

[Boban]

Okay,

[PFT Commenter]

so we. We have a. A couple NBA GMS that listen to this podcast. So what are you working on now? We can try to sell you. Let's sell back to the league. Year 10.

[Boban]

Let's go year 10.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you working on right now? What's. What's, what's the next evolution of your game?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Game.

[Boban]

Three point shots. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How many? Three pointers. If we gave you like an empty. I. I Like how we're just going through this with this with Max just sitting there.

[PFT Commenter]

Max's butt crack is out.

[Big Cat]

We're not really helping Max out.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. I'm just messing with Max. No butt crack. No butt crack. If I gave you.

[Boban]

Don't worry.

[Big Cat]

They're playing if, if, if you were in an empty gym, like, how many. And I gave you 100 threes. How many are you making?

[Boban]

You know how many?

[Big Cat]

Three. Yeah.

[Boban]

100. You know who is Pedro Stackovic? Yeah, yeah. I'm right now, like, him. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

How are you making. Are you making 80?

[Boban]

80.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No defect.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't mean it. You just heard him say 80, so he said.

[Boban]

Yeah, okay, okay. Sorry. My fault. 85.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's more realistic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, good.

[Boban]

I think 85 is realistic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Boban]

I would say 88, because I'm born year 88, but, you know, like, 85. I would take 85.

[Big Cat]

Five.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's get you back in the league. The, the league's more fun when Bobons run around out there.

[Boban]

I, I believe in that. Thank you very much. I, I, I. Sharing thoughts with you.

[PFT Commenter]

We. We. We got to talk a little bit about soup. Last time I know that you're a big soup.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a soup freak? Is that a fair way to put it?

[Boban]

You can, you can say you're a freak. Hey, look at me. I'm freak.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have, do you have, like, top three soups?

[Boban]

Top three soups? I have three top three soups.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Soups.

[Boban]

The chicken noodle soup, obviously. Mushroom. Mushroom soup.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Boban]

And you always. You always can add butternut squash soup.

[PFT Commenter]

Butternut squash soup. Those are three pretty healthy soups.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[Boban]

I tried. I try to be healthy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do they have. Do they have any soups or stews in, like, the former Yugoslavia, any of those countries?

[Boban]

Oh, we're killing with the soups.

[PFT Commenter]

What kind of soups?

[Boban]

Everything, like, you name it. Same, like, same like what I said, but, you know, like, like, like, we have beef soup. We have chicken soup. We have some. We have like, like cabbage, but we use, like, a soup. We have a. We have bean soup. I don't know everything to translate, but, you know, like, we have a lot of stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love soup. It's the perfect meal.

[Boban]

It's a perfect meal. Yeah. Basically, they feel you eat beginning. They fill you up, and after that, everything else, what you eat, it's like, you can be smaller, like, small and like, smaller salad, smaller dessert. But dessert. Dessert need to be on the end of the meal.

[PFT Commenter]

How. Have you ever tried to eat soup at the end of the meal?

[Boban]

No, no, always beginning.

[PFT Commenter]

I do that sometimes. Try it end of the meal. It's good. It fills in all the cracks from like all the food that you ate. You finish it up with some soup, basically. Yeah, yeah, it fills you up basically.

[Boban]

Like chocolate or ice cream. They just fill out, Just fill out the gaps.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you don't have to like it, but just try doing it one time. It might, it might change your perspective. Perspective on things.

[Boban]

Okay, okay, I'm on it. I'm on it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

What about the, the Balkan breakfast that it became like it took over Tick tock. Is that a real thing? The, the guys with. I don't know if you. It's like just tick tock. It's really guys with just like meats and, and vegetables and like tomatoes and they're just biting the tomato, then biting the bread, then biting the meat. Is that a Balkan breakfast? What do you traditionally have for breakfast? Bulky breakfast.

[Boban]

It's not Balkan breakfast, but you know, you can eat. Basically we use a lot of bread. We use a lot of bread. We use a lot of, A lot of pie, cheese pie, cheese pie, meat pie, yogurt. We use same like, same like everybody in the world. Like, you know, eggs, eggs, bacon and, and all other stuff like vegetables. But I think a lot of bread, a lot of, A lot of yogurt, a lot of, a lot of everything. What you get in. And basically breakfast. We do bakery breakfast. Me personally, I go to bakery, buy something, buy some like, you know, like some things. What you have in bakery.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but not like a muffin or.

[Boban]

Yeah, yeah, something like that. Or something like salt, like with the cheese, with the meat, with like pizza roll or something like that. And this is it like this how I do my breakfast. But we do eggs, we do like ham, prosciutto, cheese, yogurt.

[Big Cat]

So the Balkan breakfast might be a little bit, they might be doing a little bit of like a caricature because it is. Yeah, it's like guys sitting out there and they like have full tomatoes or take a bite tomato. They take a bite of the, the, you know, they take a bite of a carrot, then they take a bite of a salami stick, then a bite of the bread. I don't know.

[Boban]

We depends on the person. Somebody that. Yeah, but somehow, somehow some, some back of the day, we do that too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This, this bella corba looks really good.

[Big Cat]

Good.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that, is that a Serbian dish?

[Boban]

What is bella cor?

[PFT Commenter]

B E L, A C O R, B, A. It says it's a. It's a Serbian dish.

[Boban]

Do you have photo right here.

[Big Cat]

Let's get.

[PFT Commenter]

This looks like. This looks like something I would eat. Almost like a. A lemon chicken soup soup thing.

[Boban]

Okay. Chicken soup, I guess, huh?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, like a lemon chicken soup. That looks awesome. Oh, I would house. Oh, we got what?

[Big Cat]

Just everything just falling off.

[Boban]

Wait, this is the.

[PFT Commenter]

That's where.

[Big Cat]

How would you rate our studio and set up here? It's.

[Boban]

It's not the.

[PFT Commenter]

You can lay down if you want.

[Big Cat]

You saw it. You were kind of like, oh, okay. Like this.

[Boban]

I say I read you like.

[Big Cat]

Like my apartment when your wife's out of town. Yeah, that's the part that hurt a little. But it's the truth.

[Boban]

Like it's okay. You know, there's nothing. Everything on perfectly on perfect place. But everything. It's clean. Yeah, everything is clean and it smell nice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

What is important. Important?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Everything else. Like when. When some. When wifey get back from the city, you guys can back everything on place which should be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Have you been watching a lot besides Wimby, you've been watching a lot of other NBA getting ready for the playoffs?

[Boban]

Yes, yes and no. Depend. Depends. Depends which game. Depends with which team, depends where and what. Yes, but yes. Yeah, let's go say yes.

[PFT Commenter]

You have any. Any feelings one way or the other about like. Let's talk about like the Eastern Conference Conference, because I know that people are talking about Boston a lot and they got Tatum back, which is kind of crazy that it came back this fast. Who do you like out of the East?

[Boban]

Detroit maybe Right now. Right now. They place. They play so good. They never. They like they beat a lot of games. They come. They come back on the track. Like when they missing when they miss a long time ago. I know because I was there. And. And they have. They have good chemistry and they have Toby.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

You know, they have Tobias and he's back. He's back in Detroit. They play good. They have. I always watch the. I've always. Always watched their highlights because they always have good chemistry. I. That's how I feel. And they're good competitors. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And what about the West? You still root for the Rockets at all?

[Boban]

Yeah, I always look. I always rooting for the teams where I. When I've been there and I always cheering for the people who was like. Who was my teammates and who is there. Who is there when I was there and. And all people like all people, all fans there because I. I have so much fun there. And basically this is a team. This team. What I left. When I, when I left, they left there and they continue, they continue to. To build their legacy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I forgot to ask this last time, I think, but you played, I assume you played some pickup basketball with Adam Sandler when you were filming.

[Boban]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

How is he as a basketball? Every, everyone. All the clips I've seen everyone talk like he can actually hoop. Is that he can actually hoop. But there's levels to this and, and playing against, you know, NBA players. We have to take it easy on him. How is he?

[Boban]

Good? He's good. He is. He's very good. He's good. Great passer, a good shooter, like passionate about basketball. Know the game, know like where he need to be. Because it's not about. Not about how skill you are. It's about like you. Because you play with more people than, than one. It's not like one on one.

[Memes]

One.

[Boban]

Basically you need to be on the perfect place, perfect moment. And he know he. Because he's good. He's good passer. He know to find you. And of course he know, he know to score, he know to shoot. He basically have nice touch and understanding about basketball. He's good. He's good. It's not about, it's not about the clips when they're showing. Yeah. You know what highlights of the, of the person. But it's really. He's good.

[Big Cat]

We should get you. So we did this stream. It'll be awesome if you could, could, you could, you could participate next year. We did a pros Vers Joe's stream in the office. So we had a bunch of guys who were like Jason Williams. We had a bunch of guys who were really good in college.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Play against us.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And the rule was it was five on five. It went one on one, two on two, three on three, four on four, five on five. Once they finished the five on five, okay. We got to add a player. But the pros didn't. So it got all the way to 15 on 5.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And the pros were still winning. It went all the way down to 15 on two and then the pros finally lost because it was like, it was. Oh, that's the levels to it. Like people don't realize just how good you guys are at basketball and just how skilled everyone, like even the, even the last guy on the NBA bench is an incredible shooter.

[Boban]

Yeah, of course. All shooter or skill or, or like, like athletic. Like athletic like dunk, everything, whatever. Like, yeah, everybody's so professional because we do all we do that all our lives.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

And you, and you. Sometimes you don't work. You don't work every day. You don't shooting every day on basketball skills. You don't practice two times a day. You know that, that, that's a point. I think they make difference, but I watch that. I really want to participate.

[Big Cat]

You're in. You're in.

[Boban]

I want to participate next time. But the point. I watched that. I watched that for the soccer. They have like, I think maybe like.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, in like Japan when there's like a bunch of little kids and

[Boban]

they play against professional 11, I think 11 professional soccer players and like they really can beat them. And a bunch of kids.

[Big Cat]

I think there was like, it was like 200 like 5 year olds or something.

[Boban]

It was like a lot of kids and there was like. They said they can beat them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

No way they can score the kid. The kids won. That's why I feel like it's like when they have too much people, like, you cannot like control everything.

[Big Cat]

You protecting the rim, though, would be awesome.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Nobody would get a rebound. You would get every single.

[Boban]

Yeah, true. That's the only thing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We better not miss any shots. It was hard.

[Boban]

Better don't miss the shots.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. It was too many people to play offense. It got. It got too jammed up in there. And then no spacing. No spacing whatsoever.

[Boban]

Like next to 1.1meter or 1meter.

[PFT Commenter]

I was trying to coach the team. I was the coach and he was the coach. Nobody was listening. Nobody was listening. They just. They were all.

[Boban]

Because you have so much people.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Too many people. They all want to make the game winning shot too.

[Boban]

Yeah. They want. Everybody want to be mvp.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Boban]

Everybody wants to become Jokic or Luca or Shea or Vendor Be. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We need role players out here too. We need. We need some Matthew Della Vovas out here.

[Boban]

Yes. And we need. You guys need Boban. You guys need, I don't know, bring anyone over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Year 10. I mean, maybe you put together a little highlight reel of you dunking on all of us.

[Boban]

For sure. That. That will sell me out for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'll make a nice little edit for you. Get bot. Get Boban back.

[Boban]

We put the sound on like boom.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, oh, yeah, we'll make. We'll make a sick mix tape for you. When we were walking through the office a second ago, we showed you the. The putt putt tournament that we have set up.

[Boban]

Yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Or do you play golf?

[Boban]

I don't play golf. I. I try one Time. But the club is so, like, small. I need to basically, like, focus to hit that ball. And it didn't. Didn't work.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it probably hurts your back, too. To have to.

[Boban]

My shoulder, my hip, my. Everything.

[PFT Commenter]

We gotta.

[Boban]

I miss that hundred times. I swing in air. They don't make the ball still there.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't make big golf clubs.

[Boban]

They don't make for guys like you that maybe they make, but I don't know. They make it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When was the last time that you met somebody and you were like, damn, you're tall,

[Boban]

Wendy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Boban]

Yeah. When we. I was like, I remember when we play against them. We play against them in. In Houston. I walked down the tunnel with him and I was like, okay. I don't know. To watch him like this because I always watch down. Always watch down. But this time I was like, okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's got to be a new experience.

[Boban]

Yeah, it's great experience.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It is crazy just seeing w. I got to see him in person.

[Boban]

Because I'm sure you never met him in person.

[Big Cat]

No, it's probably just insane. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he's just.

[Big Cat]

And he's so good. He's so skilled.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

I. I don't know if he could stay healthy. It feels like he's going to just terrorize the NBA for a really long time.

[Boban]

It's really amazing. Really amazing. It's same like. Like I saw Shaquille o' Neal yesterday. He was like, same come out from elevator. I was like, oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Boban]

Like, strong, powerful, like, tall.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you. Have you talked to Luca recently?

[Boban]

Yeah, I talked with Luca recently.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's unfortunate that he's hurt right now, but he. He looked like he was in really good shape this year. Like, he.

[Boban]

He looked amazing. Like 40, 50, 60. I don't know how many points more like he was like. And. And the Lakers played amazing. Like, the Lakers play really good with him team. And I know they lost. They lost other night, but I didn't. I didn't watch. I didn't watch. I didn't watch too much game, but I was like. I was. I was. I was Watch the score on the end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but.

[Boban]

But I hope so.

[Big Cat]

He'll.

[Boban]

He'll back. He'll back soon and help them because to. To. They can have. They can have nice run on playoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Until about a week ago, I. I was starting to think that the Lakers could do something. And then Luke is out and Austin Reeves is out too. Right. So it feels like like, maybe not this year, but Luke, I was really impressed with Luca this year.

[Boban]

They look really good. Like, little focus. Like, he always. He always. For me, he always look good. I don't know. Like.

[Big Cat]

Like maybe he looks a little fat every now and then. No, just a little bit, tiny bit fat.

[Boban]

No, no, he's.

[Big Cat]

He's a little tiny bit fat.

[Boban]

No, he's just strong and powerful. Like, hey, trust me. How he.

[Big Cat]

You're a great friend.

[Boban]

No, no, no, I'm. I'm honest. I was. I spent time with him and like, he's really strong. He is really strong and powerful. They're just like, they're just. People like talk about that, but it's not. It's not really true. Yeah, like, I can confirm that because. Not true. He's very strong.

[Big Cat]

Like.

[Boban]

Like, I give you example. We was. We was have. We was have the. Like without warm up. We have some bar set up, trap bar set up set up. Like with the. With the speed. We have machine there and we have like, we need to do a couple sets like of the speeding of speed. How. How fast can a trap bar go? Like from the. From the dead position to the highest position when you can. When you can do it and you have the numbers when you can reach, you know, like, like maybe I'm just made up right now. Story always like 1.2, 1.1, 1.11. Like without heavyweight. Without warming up. Like, without warming up. He. He hit the record, I think 1.8 something that. And like no one from us is not even close. Like with this from the speed trap bar power. Like it's. That's. That's insane.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

And you cannot. Like, that's a. That's a. So powerful. Like his leg, his legs, his body. It's so powerful and that's. I never see something personal in my life after I tried to reach the number. It's not even. I don't even close. Yeah, like, I cannot get the double.

[Big Cat]

No, that is. Yeah. I mean that's a big part of his game is like his. His strength and being able to keep guys like at a distance and get his shot up is.

[Boban]

But brain too. Like, you know, like him and Jokic have the. Have the mental like read the game and see everything. Like, you know, he. He know. He know. He need to tell you because he. You. You open on a court and he'll find you like both of them. Like both of them. We find you every time when you open and you just need to like put your hands or like make Good play running right, right. Time. And the ball will be in your hands.

[Big Cat]

Is that, is that partially like, like European basketball and like how you guys are taught to play basketball when you're kids?

[Boban]

I, I, okay, they have skill. They have skill. No, like nobody else. But I think like they help a lot because from beginning, from beginning we go fundamentals. We go pass on the floor, pass on the floor, floor pass on the chest. We go step side pass with right hand, step left hand, over, over pass. And on the end when we shooting like you and me shooting, it's not about, it's not coaching passing the ball and you and me just shooting. It's about like I passing ball to you, you're passing ball to me. And I feel like you can get more feeling about like, about like about where is the ball bounce, like for rebounding and how you, how you want pass to be passed to you because like that pass need to be good. Good because you want that pass back when you shoot the ball. And I feel like how we development your game on the, on after that. Like you like you will just, you just pass the ball perfectly because you already adjust. You already pass 100 times a day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

To the, your teammate and he passed to you. That's why I think his element better like the passing skills.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because the unselfishness too in like the European game, you can, you can notice it sometimes. And I think it also helps that like when you get into the Olympics and stuff, a lot of the guys, it feels like, have been playing together on the Olympic team for like many, many years. Whereas Team USA maybe it's, you know, guys know each other, but they don't play together all the time.

[Boban]

True. But they, they're so powerful. Like basically even they don't do that exercise. They still powerful. So they can do, they can win. So they can win easy. Like Olympic games or world championship.

[Big Cat]

Who's the, who's the best player that you've ever played against or with? Like, just like day to day where you're just like that. I just don't know how they're that good.

[Boban]

Like, I, I cannot, I cannot even like the player who is not famous like, or you guys doesn't know him. He's still hard to play. Like, he's not about, it's not about like the name. You, you, you, you say one name and say, wow, I never defend nobody like this. Everybody.

[Big Cat]

Oh, give us a, give us a like a legend in the Balkans.

[Memes]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

Who's maybe not even in the NBA. Never Been in the NBA, but you're like, this guy's really, really good.

[Boban]

No, no, I will not give name from no one. But, you know, like, I. I remember. I remember, like, to be honest, I cannot remember the name, but one time we played the third. Third Serbian league.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Boban]

And one guy coming, like, he have normal. Normal job. Like, normal job, working job. Like, you know, he just played for that team because, like, you know, on this. On. On the weekend, he want to work out. He. He come, you know, street. Street basketball game, like, end one, but like, for big guys. Yeah. Like, he's. He was. He's so skilled. If I feel like, if he practice, he. He can be like, really, like, good basketball player.

[Big Cat]

So he was just a regular guy who didn't play professionally, who just, like, on the weekends be like, oh, yeah, I'll play in the Serbian third league.

[Boban]

Yes. He's a little bit taller. He's a little bit taller. He's a little bit chubby, but skill and smart and nice.

[Big Cat]

Amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Escalade. You remember Escalade?

[Boban]

Yeah, I remember Escalade, but this guy is a little bit tinier and taller.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. You watch the N1 mixtape when you're growing up?

[Boban]

Of course. I think. I think everybody watched it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that. You were like, that's what America's like.

[Boban]

No, no, no, no, no. But I think everybody. Everybody watched that. Everybody tried that fake, like, you know, hit the ball, like, go there between the legs. Like long, long shorts today and like a bigger T shirt. You put the ball. You kick the ball. The ball spinning around. It was like. It was like so, so much. I think everybody watched it.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It was worldwide. The professor. The professor joined and he just didn't get off the tour.

[Boban]

Yeah, it was amazing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do you have a. Do you have a. I. I was looking at your Instagram before. Do you have a farm at home or is that.

[Boban]

It's. It's my village. It's a farm. You know, like back. Back over the day when my. My grandfather and grandmother have it.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Boban]

Of course, back in the day, we dropped just. I try to. I try to help my parents and everybody ask me why you don't buy your dad new tractor. We have new tractor, but he don't. He don't use it, really. No, we. We. He always use the same tractor. That tractor is old, but he always use the same tractor. And I don't know how and why, but, you know, the new tractor is staying there, but the old tractor is working, working around and he and he love to use all.

[Big Cat]

What do you guys grow?

[Boban]

We grow everything. Like basically only for, for, only for, like personal stuff, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

For, for, for your farm.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

It's not for selling. Like, you know, we don't, we don't, we don't do for selling. We just do for basically our, our community, basically our family.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so for the record, Bobon has bought his dad a new tractor. He just doesn't use it.

[Boban]

No, I, I just said because I read all the comments like, hey, buyer, buy your dad or buy your father new tractor. I was like, okay, okay, thank you guys. I'll, I'll, I'll buy new tractors. Whatever. Don't bother me at all. I just, I just said for no reason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, dads have their own tractors that they like. They know how. They don't want to have to learn how to use a new one. They'll fix this one if it breaks.

[Boban]

But the same tractor, the similar. Just new one. But the problem because like if you want, you have machine who is like who is attached for the, for that type of tractor. If you want change the bigger tractor. You need to change all machines when they, when they compare it to that. With that tractor. That's why, that's why you keep, keep. You keep that size of tractor.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys grow? Like, do you raise animals for meat?

[Boban]

Yes, but before it was much more. Right now it's a little bit less.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Was that ever hard? Like as a kid you have to raise an animal and then you have to, you have to eat it later

[Boban]

hard. It's all everything hard is nothing easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, same.

[Boban]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I can say more about that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Well, Bobon, this has been awesome. We, we really appreciate you coming by. I have the robot question. Rho b a c k promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take last time you're on. It was before Happy Gilmore 2. Which great job in that movie are you. Do we have other movies on the horizon? Bobon the movie star.

[Boban]

Yeah. So right now, Right now we. We keep that one. We was, we was do recently Robin Hood.

[PFT Commenter]

Hood.

[Boban]

And it was the, it was the. It was a TV show. I was a 9 and 10 episode. I was like, I'm like a bad guy with not talking guy, but you know, like guy tried to kill little John.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

And of course, of course Robin Hood. But you know like, the. The point. I have so much time, so much fun time. Because we filmed that in Serbia, and it's MGM production and Lionsgate.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Boban]

I say, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And.

[Boban]

And this is like. This is like, really good. Good stuff to work on it. Of course. Happy Gilmore. Happy Gilmore is something else because, like, it's like, different, you know, like, I run naked. I was like, dude, this. I was there. I was there. But, you know, and all this. All this celebrity. What it was that movies. But this is like this, like something else. Like this, like I fighting. I am like bad guy riding the horse. First time riding the horse in my life.

[Hank]

And.

[Boban]

And it was like. It was the. It was the great experience. I remember when I. When we filming that, I was on a horse. And of course, one more actor. He's. He's from. He's from London. I was on the horse. And the horse, every time they hear action, they start. They start, like, sprinting. And I didn't expect that because before that, I never ride a horse. But we have, like, I have only two classes horses, right. And I'm the horse. I hear hammer in one hand and a horse, like, horse in other hand, like. And I'm on the horse and they say, action. The horse start to running. I was like, hitting him with the legs. Stop, stop. I was scared. They said, oh, let's go one more time, Boban. Don't. Don't do that scary face. I was like, okay.

[Big Cat]

Actually, again, the horse just goes. Takes off again.

[Boban]

They take off. But it was good. I'm. I'm like now used to. To. You know, he. I think he'll just start to walk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Because then you. When you hit him a little bit with the. With the foot and, like, show him to go. That was like. He'd start to walk. Yeah. But, you know, that's why. That's why I didn't expect he would start to run. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so more movies.

[PFT Commenter]

Back in the NBA, I. I think I figured it out. I think you might be getting blackballed from the NBA because the owners are mad that you gave away free chicken.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this one.

[PFT Commenter]

You probably took money out of their pocket, and they're like, we can't sign Boban. He's just going to give the people chicken.

[Boban]

He was like, yeah, I don't know. Sorry for that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, don't apologize. That was the nicest thing you ever did.

[Boban]

I appreciate. Thank you very much. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Well, it's great having you here in the office, and we really appreciate you stopping by.

[Boban]

I appreciate guys, thank you for everything. It's amazing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

Great time.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Me.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you're our MMA expert. How do I pronounce Yuri Prochaska?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Fire fest of the week, Hank.

[Hank]

Nothing crazy. It was good. Good week. Fun week. Mini golf, Masters weather.

[Big Cat]

Nothing better than mini golf week for you.

[Hank]

Yeah, I mean, the. I. I went back to yogurt for the first time in like eight months.

[Big Cat]

You say yogurt?

[Boban]

Yogurt.

[PFT Commenter]

What flavor did you get?

[Hank]

Almost died.

[Big Cat]

Dasani.

[Hank]

It's embarrassing.

[Boban]

No.

[Big Cat]

What's the.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[Big Cat]

Dasani's water. What's the Chobani?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a thea guy, but it's always

[Hank]

Going to be hard the first time

[Big Cat]

you do granola in it.

[Hank]

I do. Yeah. Yogurt, granola, blackberries, honey.

[PFT Commenter]

You ever do honey honey?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't like the honey. Overpowers it. A little syrup, that overpowers it. I just like the crunch and a little yogurt.

[Hank]

Had some yogurt today. Yogurt?

[PFT Commenter]

You were just telling that story.

[Big Cat]

You got back to yogurt.

[Hank]

Don't repeat yourself back on the yogurt, off the bread, off the snacks in this office.

[PFT Commenter]

You should start exercising more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What about the pimento cheese? Because the boys the. Yeah.

[Hank]

I haven't had any pimento cheese. I don't know, Memes. I, I feel like he might kill me because he keeps offering it, and I have not had some yet.

[Big Cat]

Memes. Colton and. And Shane have, I would say, have gone through, like, six pounds of pimento cheese this week. Every time I walk by, there's just a new tub of pimento cheese to the point where I have. Have pimento cheese. I ordered lunch today, and I saw that pimento cheese was on the menu, and I just ordered it for the boys because I was like, well. And I'm sure they probably didn't need it. It was like bringing sand to a beach. The pimento cheese corner is getting a little out of control.

[PFT Commenter]

We just decided it's pimento week because of the Masters.

[Big Cat]

Okay, fair. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm down with it. It's delicious. We're just making sure you guys get some pimento in you. Yeah, they're a good teammate. What do you think it is that about Hank that makes him not to want. Want to eat your cheese? Well, he's dieting, but, I mean, so am I. But it's just polite to stop by and say thanks, Memes. Yeah. You think a guy who likes golf also likes pimento? Yeah, I'm going to have some.

[Hank]

I just haven't yet, and I'm worried, like, I might just wake up with cheese getting stuffed down my throat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you better eat the pimento.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a real danger.

[Big Cat]

Who just. Who just had a bad shot.

[Memes]

I would never hit a putt on this course ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I. Yeah, so I, I, I did see a guy. He four putted from, like, three feet that you talking about Spider last night, Lowry? Yeah, maybe three putted from three, three, three feet. But I saw that, and I was like, maybe the haters are not actually hater. Maybe they're just realistic and I'm delusional.

[Big Cat]

They got it. Yeah, they got it, right?

[PFT Commenter]

They could. They could, but 150.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft. Your fire fest.

[PFT Commenter]

My fire fest. I. I think I told some of you guys this yesterday, but I went to the doctor finally to look at my back because my back. Back and my calves and hamstring have been really up for the last, like, year or so. Off and on with the back especially. They gave me an X ray and I'm a freak. I'm a genetic freak.

[Big Cat]

Well, I already knew that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, I'm a. I'm a freak. My. I only have four vertebrae. Most people have five vertebrae. Four verts. Four vert. Four ver. There you go, Max, let's go. We're back.

[Big Cat]

You love to talk.

[Memes]

Even though I just dominate. Like, I dominate, dominate you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you do.

[Big Cat]

That would be so funny if it was just. If they did a mri. It was just a picture of Kevin Patullo.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Got the dog in me. So I. I got. I got four verts instead of five verts. My fifth vertebrae is. It's fused. It's completely fused to my tailbone. So, like, it's there, but it's not like a separate vertebrae. So that means that all the other discs that I have are getting, like, pushed at weird angles and. And getting herniated. So I was actually happy to find out that there's a reason why my back is feeling up and it's not just in my head. And that's why, like, the nerve things going. That's why I continually have been tearing muscles in my calves for the last, like, eight months.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's good to know that there's an issue now. We got to solve it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm actually feeling pretty good about that. But it was funny because when he showed it to me on the X ray, initially, I was like, is this guy. I. After the whole stum thing, is he going to tell me that I have a tail?

[Big Cat]

Oh, wouldn't that be something?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, but I just got. I'm running four verts.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's like 5% of people have that. You're.

[Big Cat]

You're free. Few the proud. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Five percenter.

[Big Cat]

Few the proud. Four verts. All right, so I also have a doctor story because I went to the dermatologist today. Have you guys ever been to a dermatologist? Yeah, I. First time. Ever thought it was a chick doctor. Like, not. The doctor's a woman. I meant, like, only women go to dermatologist.

[PFT Commenter]

You're correct. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And listen, shout out. My wife, I think she. She likes me enough that she wants Me to, like, live for a long time. Because she made this doctor's appointment. I didn't even know. I literally, like, Wednesday morning, I woke up, and I was just looking at my. Ahead of my calendar. I just see dermatology appointments appointment. And I said to my wife, I was like, what is this? And she's like, yeah, I. It, like, takes forever to get and see this doctor. I made this, like, six months ago. You have to go skin cancer screening. So I went. Yeah. So they basically. I had no idea what was going on. I go in, I show up. They. It's a doctor, and then it's a person taking notes, and they just look at your entire body and, like, mark everything that. Like, you know, moles, whatever. So that in a year, I'm gonna have to go back and make sure that nothing has gotten bigger. Whatever. Fine. Right. She opened up my butt crack.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Didn't think that was coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, check the. The credit card slip.

[Big Cat]

It was a double butt crack open. She opened up the top, and then she went down and opened up a little lower. And I was just like. I had no idea that was gonna happen. I didn't know that that's what they do. No, it was a way. Was she great professional, Incredible job? No, no. Great doctor. Yeah, she just, like.

[PFT Commenter]

They just.

[Big Cat]

They flip you over. I had my boxers on. She all in one motion, was going down my back, looking all the stuff pulled down my pants. Like, pants me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Boop, boop.

[Big Cat]

And I was just like, before I even knew what was happening, my butt crack was just open to a woman at 8:30 in the morning and very uncomfortable. And then when I flipped back on my back, she was like, you. You got anything in the penis hair? I was like, there's literally nothing going on there. So we skipped that. Thank God, Because I did not need her looking for moles in my dick and balls. And I also would have just been so embarrassed with the size.

[PFT Commenter]

You could have just like, gone home and been upset with your wife. Been like, she looked at my butt crack.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's your fault.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. She. I'm probably gonna have to explain this. Like, look, we weren't in Sedona, but there were fingers and butts.

[PFT Commenter]

This sounded like it's more of an Urban Meyer thing, but, yeah, it does feel like this is a situation where the impractical jokers might have been next door.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, now go. Now. Now swipe up.

[Big Cat]

So you guys go to. Go to the dermatology guys. Go to the doctor also. She did Give me one recommendation that I basically laughed in her face. She was like, you know, you're at the age that you should maybe start wearing a sun shirt. And I was just like, no, absolutely not. Like, you can't. As an adult man, you can't wear a sun. Unless you're a ginger. Understand that? Unless you're a ginger. And you. If you wear a sun shirt, you just look like a toddler. You look like a toddler at the pool. You can't be doing that. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

What if you got tattoos that, like, you're not super comfortable with showing off with strangers? Hypothetically.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Then maybe. Maybe sunshine.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe sunshirt, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Boban]

But the.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I feel like sun shirts, toddlers, gingers, 50 plus. Well, I was gonna say deep sea fishing. If you're wearing on deep sea fishing, that's cool, because you're just like. I mean, you're a man, you're holding a big fish, you got a sun shirt on. Who cares?

[PFT Commenter]

I'd say, like, even, like, construction workers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

People that work outside.

[Big Cat]

People work outside. Totally understand. But if you're just a regular guy at the pool and you got this. The sun shirt on, people are going to be like, what's going on here?

[PFT Commenter]

It's an effective tool to make people not realize that you're overweight.

[Big Cat]

True. But then I never know. But then everyone knows you're overweight because you're wearing the sun shirt.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And also sneaky. Actually, sometimes a worse look because it sticks to your body, and then you have. And then, like, your. Your. Your fat and your breasts kind of pop. It's. It's. It's. It's better to just go into the pool. Hope the pool's a little cold so you can look like you.

[Boban]

You're.

[Big Cat]

You know, do a little flex. Far better. Before we do, Zach, Memes and memes and Max. You guys have firefest. Memes, you have a fire fest. Just thought I'd ask.

[Memes]

I.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This is like a great week.

[Memes]

I have two.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you have two.

[Memes]

I have two.

[Big Cat]

Two.

[Memes]

One. I got a little too angry at mini golf yesterday.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't think so.

[Memes]

No, I got a little too angry at mini go golf.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, which are you talking about? When you threw the putter, when you punched a hole in the body armor thing.

[Big Cat]

Or you charged at me. Oh, yeah, you charged at me.

[Memes]

A little charge. A pfd.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You did it. Well, it's sometimes animals, like, you'll see an elephant or a rhino, they do the. The false charge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is they take A couple steps just to buck at you.

[Big Cat]

That's what you did.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. That's what Max.

[Memes]

We were on different sides of the

[PFT Commenter]

basketball, and to be fair, I. I was trying to help Max out. I. I literally went up to him because he was feeling low and feeling blue, so. And I went up with my hands to do the chin up thing that you see, like, the basketball player helping his buddy out. Like, I want to see you carry yourself with dignity and don't be too bad. I think sometimes your own worst enemies, you. And you get too, too down on yourself. And I was like, max, chin up. And then he almost killed me.

[Memes]

Well, I'm the anchor for tonight, and this is going to come out after the fact, so I'm sure all.

[Hank]

It'll.

[Memes]

It'll end swimmingly.

[Big Cat]

It'll be great.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what anchors usually help you do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Be granted.

[PFT Commenter]

Great.

[Memes]

Y. Got it. Great Y.

[Big Cat]

You're Max. You listen. You're a passionate Italian.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

We all expect it. So it's not like I actually watched it back last night. And it's very funny because you. You did a good job of removing yourself from the situation and calming yourself down. But then you came back to the scene of this, the crime, and when you started screaming, meltdown. I had a meltdown. You had a meltdown while having a meltdown. It was so fucking perfect. Accusing another man of a meltdown while having a meltdown was very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, can you. Can you just walk us through the 18th hole? Because I. I had a front row view for it.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Memes]

The answer to that question is no, I cannot do that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Do you think it's a little funny in retrospect? Screaming, you're the one who had a meltdown while having a meltdown.

[Memes]

Well, you're just. You're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're the worst.

[Big Cat]

I actually was the worst in that moment. Going back and showing how easy the hole was was. Was a dickhead move.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

Is it.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it unfair for me to be like, hey, you should lighten up a little bit. It's literally a mini golf competition.

[Big Cat]

Well, you want to touch me?

[Memes]

Yeah, That's. That's a no. That's a no touch zone.

[Big Cat]

Also, it's not just the mini golf competition. This is life or death.

[Memes]

And I just. And I. For some reason, I've gone last every single round. Yeah, I've been. I've been. I've been all eyes on me every single round so far. Luckily, Hank just went nuclear yesterday. We didn't even have to Worry about it in the second round, but whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your, what's your. If you don't make it, you die. Number.

[Memes]

For golf.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for mini golf.

[Memes]

I can't even like begin to. No, I, I don't, I, I can't do that math right now. No, like, I, I don't know what. Like a par.

[Hank]

Gotta get to the 13th hole tonight.

[Big Cat]

Smash play the gator hole is, is a problem.

[Memes]

There's a lot of problems.

[Big Cat]

Gator hole is like.

[Memes]

There's a lot of problems.

[PFT Commenter]

Sand hole is a problem. Pizza hole.

[Memes]

Pizza hole is a problem. Yeah, there's, there's some problem holes. My, my other one was that I got caught in the bathtub this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

No. All right, go on.

[Memes]

So we had, we had some great interviews this week. Shane Bacon we recorded at 10:30 on Monday. And then Bobon was 10 o' clock in person on Tuesday. For some reason when I woke up Tuesday morning, I had 10:30 in my head from Monday. So I was like, all right, yeah, I have to be at the office at like whatever, 10:15, I'll be fine. And then I got like a Google Calendar alert. I was looking at my phone while in the bathtub. Oh, at 9.

[Big Cat]

Time out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're taking Tuesday morning baths.

[Memes]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Memes]

I love to start my day with a bath.

[PFT Commenter]

But wait, not just Tuesday morning, but Tuesday morning baths where. I know you didn't understand what time the interview was going to be, but, but it was still going to cut you short within like 30 minutes. You were going to have to rush out of the tub.

[Memes]

I had. No, no, I had a, I had an alarm set at 10 o'. Clock. It takes me five minutes, five minutes to get to work.

[Big Cat]

This is an unheard of.

[Memes]

This, this, that got the, the exact same reaction from the boys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. A bath is supposed to be a luxurious end of day decompression, not a. I'm just waking up on a Tuesday morning with a busy week week. Let me take 30 minutes out of my day and hop in the bath.

[Memes]

Well, that's what I needed that Tuesday morning.

[Big Cat]

I don't, that's crazy, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think my body would know what to do if it took a bath before noon. I like, if you take a bath before noon, you better have the flu.

[Big Cat]

I, I have never, I can confidently say I have never done this in my life.

[Memes]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

On a weekday morning.

[Memes]

I don't know what to tell you that, that's, that's what I was Doing at the time?

[Big Cat]

Bubbles. Were you bubbles?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Are you kidding?

[Big Cat]

Is there is jacuzzi tub?

[Memes]

Oh, no. This is very standard. Half of my belly is outside of the tub when I'm laying down in this.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you have like breakfast in the tub or coffee?

[Memes]

No breakfast, no coffee.

[PFT Commenter]

Just bought. Did you have something to read?

[Memes]

No, I had. I had just your phone, the iPad, up, watching Netflix, chilling. Had my phone. It's a good way to start my day. It's like, all right, take a deep breath now.

[Big Cat]

Go.

[Memes]

Go about the rest of my day.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. It's definitely a crazy move. But I. I kind of want to try it.

[Memes]

It's nice. It's nice. But regardless. Well, this one wasn't nice because I got the alert 10 minutes before, like interview starts. 10 minutes I jumped out of. Jumped out of the tub. I don't even think. I dried myself, put clothes on, came in.

[PFT Commenter]

What got.

[Memes]

I got probably pretty wet. I. I went. I almost left without un. Like unclogging.

[Big Cat]

What do you.

[Memes]

What do you call it? Undraining?

[Hank]

Draining.

[Memes]

Yeah, draining. Undraining is stupid. Stupid by me draining the tub. And I somehow did get here by like 10:01. And Bobon walked in at like 10. Like walked into the studio at like 10:03. So it did work out. But I was 10 minutes from tub to studio, like on the dot.

[Big Cat]

That's incredible. I mean, I'm actually. I actually feel violated. I feel violated knowing that I was talking to you. 10 minutes post. Tub. That's not enough.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Exactly.

[Memes]

10 minutes post.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's not enough.

[Memes]

I got to my car within five minutes and then it was a five minute drive.

[Big Cat]

You gotta. You. If this ever happens again, you need to alert me because I can't. We can't be conversing. 10 minutes post.

[Memes]

I. I told Memes this, then he was like, you have to say, you have to tell that story on the show.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, how many times a week would you say that you take a bath?

[Memes]

Three or four.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. That's a ton of baths. That's a lot.

[Memes]

I don't know what to tell you. I've really liked.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there any rhyme or reason to it? Are they all on weekdays?

[Memes]

Mostly weekdays.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Memes]

Mix up whether it's morning or night. But it's.

[Big Cat]

You're an adult man and your body's pruned three or four times.

[Memes]

Yeah. I love it. I absolutely love it. It's like, it's my favorite. It's my favorite place to be.

[Big Cat]

We Gotta get you an upgraded bag.

[Memes]

No, that's a. That's what I was gonna say. Like, I'm looking to move, and, like, a deal breaker for me is, like, a nice tub.

[Big Cat]

A big Jacobian, big.

[PFT Commenter]

Nice tub.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

I also feel like I had a

[Big Cat]

pretty good week this week.

[PFT Commenter]

My firefest would have to be. We did do, like, preliminary rounds for the mini golf to try to get

[Big Cat]

into the tournament on stream the other day.

[PFT Commenter]

Later in the evening, I thought it was going to be pretty. Pretty cut and dry. Like, hey, you perform well in golf. Maybe you get in. And then somehow I just ended up in, like, a Illuminati humiliation ritual out of nowhere. They brought out the handcuffs.

[Big Cat]

They brought it. A blindfold.

[PFT Commenter]

Dante was wrapping around me by the

[Big Cat]

hips, guiding me through a whole.

[PFT Commenter]

Through a course. I thought Max had my back.

[Big Cat]

Max somehow lines me up on, like, this big blue penis on the course.

[PFT Commenter]

Looked like it was just sodomizing me.

[Big Cat]

It was tough.

[PFT Commenter]

It was bad. It was bad luck.

[Big Cat]

Do you feel a little bit like this? The spongebob meme. Watching all your friends play golf this week? Oh, it looks like so much fun.

[PFT Commenter]

It does.

[Big Cat]

It look like competition in golf, and,

[PFT Commenter]

like, you get to get to.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, it does look fun.

[Memes]

It's not always fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Max doesn't have a lot of fun, but out.

[Memes]

If yesterday afternoon was fun, second round was fun. Shout out, Hank.

[Big Cat]

But when it's not fun, it's intense, and that intensity is still, like, it's addictive. We can win this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Good show, boys. Sunday night with our guy, Scott Van Pelt. Let's have a great Masters weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Get your big Texas excited.

[Big Cat]

Hank, are you playing golf this weekend? Yeah, you got to, got, got to before the Masters.

[Hank]

Not right now. I'm playing Saturday.

[Boban]

Okay.

[Hank]

Potentially Sunday. Probably not, though.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You got to get around it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

You think the courses are more or less full during the Masters?

[Big Cat]

I feel like it's like, it.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, see it on TV and it. Yeah, it's also something up.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's trying to get.

[Hank]

Just really going to be really nice.

[Big Cat]

Well, but also everyone's trying to get their rounds in before the Masters before it starts. So, yeah, it's got to be packed on Masters, and you could also just

[PFT Commenter]

watch the Masters on your phone.

[Hank]

True.

[Boban]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good point, Memes.

[Big Cat]

Good point, Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, numbers. 76, 31.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, thank God. 66. 23, 32, 24.

[Boban]

4.

[PFT Commenter]

18.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Great.

[PFT Commenter]

Couples minus two right now.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go, Freddie.

[Big Cat]

62, anyone? Let's go. One more. 62 numbers. 23.

[Memes]

56.

[Hank]

71.

[Big Cat]

Same numbers.

[Memes]

Same numbers.

[Big Cat]

Same.

[Jerry O'Connell]

74.

[Big Cat]

Anyone close?

[Boban]

Who was close? Me.

[Hank]

Would you have 71?

[PFT Commenter]

Max is bummed out. Happy birthday to John Madden, Steven Seagal and Haley Joel Osborne. The big three. Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

No one else.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday, Colton's brother. Oh, Colton's brother. Happy birthday. No one else, Is there? Am I missing one?

[Big Cat]

Brandon Walker.

[PFT Commenter]

Today's Brandon Walker's birthday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I'm just kidding.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Sa.

[Memes]

Sa.