Matthew And Brady Tkachuk, Seth MacFarlane, Duke Is Going To Win The Natty, NFL Free Agency Looms + AWL’s Remember 10 Years

Summary

Pardon My Take — March 4, 2026

Episode: "Matthew And Brady Tkachuk, Seth MacFarlane, Duke Is Going To Win The Natty, NFL Free Agency Looms + AWL’s Remember 10 Years"

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Brief Overview

In this jam-packed episode, Big Cat and PFT Commenter celebrate 10 years of Pardon My Take with their signature sports banter, sharp-witted debates, and plenty of laughs. The show features in-depth interviews with gold medal–winning hockey brothers Matthew and Brady Tkachuk, and Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane. The hosts dive into the state of college basketball—especially the dominance of Duke—upcoming NFL free agency rumors, recent retirements, memorable sports moments, and fond reflections on the podcast’s decade-long journey.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Duke's College Basketball Dominance & Tournament Hype

[02:21–10:46]

• The hosts open with bold claims: "We should cancel the NCAA tournament" because Duke is so dominant.
• Big Cat piles on stats: Duke hit a “plus 40” rating in KenPom—”first time since 1999” (03:09).
• Emphasis on Duke’s defense: “Their defense is ferocious... number one nationally... this team has it all.” — Big Cat [04:00]
• Hank and PFT push back, citing stats about Duke teams choking in previous years, but Big Cat doubles down, calling this the “biggest sports story of all time” if Duke loses.

  “Duke not winning it all this year would be the most consequential sports story of all time... Not our lifetimes—of all time.” — Big Cat [07:09]

• Side debates: PFT backs Purdue or Nebraska as possible bracket busters.

College Basketball Trends & Technology

[12:03–15:54]

• Discussion on the new Big 12 “glass court,” which can change home designs at the press of a button.
• Jokes about hackers potentially displaying porn on the court, concerns about injury risks on glass floors, and intrigue over the novel technology.

NFL Free Agency, Trades, and Retirements

[17:12–34:36]

• Franchise tags: Breece Hall tagged by Jets; debate over RB value and strategy.
• David Montgomery traded to Houston for what’s essentially a fifth-rounder; Texan’s O-line strategy baffles the room.
• Bears’ shock: Center Drew Dalman retires at 27; team’s offensive line suddenly looks shaky.

  “He was about to make a shitload of money… the Bears go into the draft, and it’s like, fuck.” — Big Cat [30:08]

• Chiefs, Eagles, and others speculated to draft new QBs—Max defends backup quarterback value: “Backup quarterbacks are a very valuable position.” [23:06]
• Trade rumors: Max Crosby to Bears odds spike, triggering a conversation about the fragility and manipulation of betting markets.

  “It’s really easy for one shithead to manipulate these markets.” — PFT Commenter [24:39]

Hot Seat/Cool Throne: Highlights

[29:28–47:00]

• Hank’s Hot Seat: All golf courses not named Inverness Club, which won the 2045 US Open. The crew jokes about prime-time golf and who might be playing then (“This might be Charlie Woods’s last major.”).
• Hank’s Cool Throne: Respecting women—discusses the Atlanta Hawks honoring Magic City strip club; Luke Kornet’s critical blog post and the morality of the event spark laughs and fake banter about wings, strippers, and bachelor parties.

  “You’re officially not invited to Max’s bachelor party.” — Big Cat to Luke Kornet [42:35]

• Max details Philly’s legendary—and defunct—Wing Bowl: wings, strippers, and wild fan culture.

10 Years of PMT: AWL Memories & Reflections

[136:33–147:48]

• Listener voicemails and written memories highlight the show’s cultural footprint: from helping with depression, to relationship-breakup solace, to classic bits like “ListerQuil,” “Car Stick,” and “BarbaCuffalo.”
• The hosts wax poetic about inside jokes, legendary interviews (Joe Buck, Bill Walton, Jim Harbaugh), and the pandemic-era pivot to pop culture coverage.

  “I want someday the goal for this podcast to be a detailed article—why are grown adults screaming ‘shoot the puck’ at games?… It’s kids who listened to us when they were 12.” — Big Cat [138:18]

• Favorite episode reminiscences: cheese color arguments, Mount Rushmore debates, and Beer Olympics’ infamous deleted scenes.

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Notable Interviews

The Tkachuk Brothers: Gold Medal Memories & Olympic Glory

[67:19–102:05]

• The “glow” of Olympic gold: Both brothers describe daily feelings of pride.

  “Every time I hear the national anthem, it brings me back to... standing with my brothers, seeing our flag above Canada.” — Matthew [68:12]

• Team chemistry: Compared to a bachelor party or summer camp.

  “That was the greatest three-week bachelor party of my life.” — Matthew, quoting Jack Eichel [76:27]

• Goalie Hellebuyck’s heroics: Team group chat still buzzing, ongoing reunions planned.
• Dealing with Canadian media post-win: Brady endured tough questions; the boys joke about PR strategies.
• Camaraderie: “Golden Brothers” group chat with the Hughes brothers, nightly “hot stoves” in the Olympic Village.
• On winning with 3-on-3 overtime: “They [Canada] won 4-on-4 in 2010. Nobody was complaining.” — Matthew [100:41]
• Song rotation and American swagger: “Free Bird, Courtesy of the Red, White & Blue, Dream On… all night, every time.” — Brady [93:22]
• Laugh-out-loud tale: Brady’s sleep paralysis night — “If it’s my time, it’s my time.”
• Future planning: “Hopefully we have a chance to compete in a few more [Olympics] and win a few more.” — Matthew [100:17]

Notable Quote

“We were America’s team there for a bit… whether they liked hockey or not, they were tuning in.” — Matthew Tkachuk [81:35]

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Seth MacFarlane: Animation, Music, & Behind-the-Scenes Stories

[104:43–134:45]

• The grind of junket life and podcasting: “You’re like, like, 39.5” interview of the day. [105:09]
• Family Guy origins: “It just seemed normal to me… shows get canceled, go away, and then come back. I guess this happens all the time.” [108:31]
• The “rules” of animated worlds:

  “I tend to subscribe to the Muppets philosophy… It’s a frog, it’s a pig—everyone can understand them.” — Seth [107:55]

• The technical grind: Animated episodes take 10–12 months to produce.
• Frank Sinatra’s music legacy: Seth acquired unreleased arrangements to record “Lush Life”; balancing reverence and creative pressure.

  “For me, self-criticism comes with Connecticut birthright, but it pushes you harder.” [113:40]

• Managing a creative career: Family Guy as the “mothership” enabling side projects.
• Favorite influences: The Far Side’s Gary Larson—pitched him on animating single-panel comics into stories.
• Hilarious diversions: Spontaneous penis song ringtone (Monty Python), and jokes about angry letters over old Family Guy gags.
• On handling internet outrage:

  “We shouldn’t be talking to each other as much as we do... Our species is equipped for 300 people, not a million.” [130:25]

• Closing in-character: Peter Griffin on Super Bowl halftime: “Why don’t they start with the halftime show? ... I’m unconscious by the time they hit the stage.” [132:01]
• Comic moment: Seth’s advice to horny Lois fans—“Picture me, guys, if you’re hot for Lois, picture me sitting there drawing her. That’s who you’re jerking off to.” [134:24]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Duke’s Potential Loss:
  “Duke not winning it all this year would be the most consequential sports story of all time... Not our lifetimes—of all time.” — Big Cat [07:09]

• On Back-to-Back Choking:
  “They’d be a dynasty of chokers… back-to-back all-time choking losses.” — PFT Commenter [05:35]

• On the "Glass" Basketball Court:
  “Is someone gonna hack into this? Because that would be very funny... Arizona State’s playing and it’s just porn.” — Big Cat [15:00]

• On Drew Dalman’s Retirement:
  “He was about to make a shitload of money… the Bears go into the draft, and it’s like, fuck.” — Big Cat [30:08]

• On the Hot Seat:
  “You’re officially not invited to Max’s bachelor party, Luke Kornet.” — Big Cat [42:35]

• On Podcast Memories:
  “Favorite episode? The next one.” — Big Cat [147:53]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [02:21] — Opening, Duke dominance/inflated KenPom stats
• [12:03] — New Big 12 "glass court" debate & jokes
• [17:12] — NFL free agency, trades, teams' O-line woes
• [29:28] — Hot Seat/Cool Throne kicks off (golf, strippers, Magic City)
• [47:51] — PFT’s Hot Seat: Stolen Valor (Kentucky Colonel bits)
• [67:19–102:05] — Interview: Matthew & Brady Tkachuk
• [104:43–134:45] — Interview: Seth MacFarlane
• [136:33] — "AWL's Remember 10 Years" and listener memories
• [147:53] — Favorite episode reflections & wrap-up

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Original Tone

• Sarcastic, high-energy, and irreverent.
• Self-deprecating humor; frequent playful jabs among hosts and guests.
• Banter segues quickly from stats to pop culture to completely absurd tangents.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a quintessential Pardon My Take experience—mixing genuine sports analysis, off-the-wall humor, inside jokes, and insightful interviews. You’ll get a pulse on college hoops’ biggest storyline, a primer on what’s next in the NFL, two of hockey’s finest riding their Olympic high, and a rare open interview with one of TV’s most creative minds. Plus, ten years’ worth of podcast memories and plenty of moments you’ll want to quote to your friends.

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In Conclusion

• Don’t miss: The candid and hilarious insights from the Tkachuk brothers (67:19–102:05), and Seth MacFarlane’s behind-the-curtain look at animation, Family Guy, and the creative process (104:43–134:45).
• This episode stands as both a raucous celebration of sports and a heartfelt milestone for one of podcasting’s most influential shows.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

Hey, pardon my take, listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings. We got a two for the people. We have three for three for American heroes. Brady Tkachuk and Matthew Tkachuk talking about the gold medal game. Everything after. It's been a whirlwind for them, the boys. It was great having him on and we break that all down. We also have Seth McFarlane of Family Guys fame. Ted season two is out. I believe it's actually out on Thursday, so go tune in. But Seth McFarlane, awesome to talk to him. We're gonna talk some college basketball. We are on the precipice of NFL free agency. You can feel the murmurings. I can feel the tampering, the rumors, the tampering.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we gotta. Guys getting tampered.

[Big Cat]

A lot of guys getting touched and tampered. Hot seat, cool throne. And then we are finishing the show with. What was it? Memes. What's the exact title of it?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Just 10 year anniversary FAQs.

[Big Cat]

Guys on 10 years.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

There we go.

[Big Cat]

Guys on 10 years should be great.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the anniversary again? Is it. Is it the wooden anniversary?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

10 year.

[Big Cat]

No, 10. 10, 10, 10.

[PFT Commenter]

10 year anniversary.

[Big Cat]

10 year anniversary. Someone thought they were smart when they did that.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys on 10. Is that the new one or is that the traditional one? Because now they. They switched up to make more money. Now there's two different gifts.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Patino award.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take. Presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, March 4th. And fellas, I think we should cancel the NCAA tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

It's over Covid 20.

[Big Cat]

Nope. Duke 2026. Why are we even playing this?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean Duke, it would be a massive disappointment if they lost.

[Big Cat]

They reached last on Monday night they played NC State. I thought, oh, this is a, this is a chance. NC State at home, they're desperate. They need a win. No, no, no, no. They were. It was like 1818 game. Then Duke just stepped on their throat. And this is the best team in the country. It would be an all time epic failure if Duke doesn't win the national title. I saw the numbers. They are the first time I believe that a team has reached plus 40 in Ken Palm since 1999. Duke, which was the best team ever until they played UConn in the finals and lost. But it's insane how good they are in terms of the ratings, the rankings, what they're doing to teams. They are absolutely killing teams. They are. If you just go points per game for the last three national titles or sorry, the UConn 2024 and 2023. Duke is beating them. Their defense is ferocious. Absolutely killing their plus 20.6 in terms of points per game. Number one nationally. This team has it all.

[Hank]

You're a gambling guy, Big cat. Though if they were that, that favored,

[Big Cat]

why they should be minus one. They're plus 320, minus 330.

[Hank]

That doesn' that much of a difference.

[PFT Commenter]

They played against a really, really, really, really, really good team last night though.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what you don't understand.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

The NC State Wolf pack.

[Big Cat]

What did I tell you?

[Hank]

Hank?

[Big Cat]

They. They reached the plus 40 point. Ken Palm. The. The again, the last time a team reached plus 40 was 1999. Duke. One of the best teams of all time. Again, they did lose the national title to Yukon. I hate that I have to keep bringing that up. But it did happen. And then the next closest team was actually duke last year. Plus 39.29. That team. If you play the tournament a thousand times, they probably would. It will 999 times, wouldn't you say?

[Hank]

Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So Michigan this year is actually better than Duke last year and Kim Palm.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but Duke this year is better than Michigan this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct? Barely.

[Big Cat]

But also there is maybe some noise to be said about Ken Palm. I love Ken Palm. It's great tool. They do do this based on the average college basketball team and because of nil and transfer portal, the average has gotten worse. So there will be maybe inflated numbers going forward, but that is irrelevant. That is. That is counter to my point. The best team and they're going to win it all. We should cancel the tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

And this goes along with what you're doing to Duke. But yes, if they lost, if they

[Big Cat]

lost, what am I doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, I'm, I'm tying in the narrative. If they lose this year, that would without question be the best two year like diet. They'd be a dynasty of chokers.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Like back to back all time choking losses in the NCAA tournament.

[Big Cat]

I hope that doesn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

We would have never seen anything close to this before. Like losing this. That's like Germany in wars in the middle of the century. Like two massive, massive favorites that just completely blow it.

[Big Cat]

And I, I hope that doesn't happen because I'm willing to stake the, the podcast reputation on Duke winning it all this year. Now if they don't win it all, will we have to say sit here and be like, hand up. We up. We got it wrong again when we said it was Duke's year again.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Hank should get a cat.

[Big Cat]

We would have to do that. But we're, we're, we will do that if we, if, if it, if unfortunately Duke does lose.

[Hank]

So all time choke.

[Big Cat]

Like, I think it would be the

[Hank]

biggest nine point lead in the championship.

[Big Cat]

I think it would be the biggest.

[Hank]

And losing the game level choke.

[Big Cat]

I think it would be the. Okay, Hank, has that ever happened there? I think the.

[Hank]

I gotta look.

[Big Cat]

Well, I get up.

[PFT Commenter]

See if that's happened in history, I

[Big Cat]

think it would be the biggest.

[Hank]

Oh, it did. 2015.

[Big Cat]

I think it would. Yeah. Because Coach K went and paid off the rest. That's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, against Butler.

[Big Cat]

One foul.

[Hank]

Actually against Wisconsin, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Wisconsin had one foul going into the halftime. Oh, yeah, we're gonna blow the whistle. I honestly, I don't want to be hyperbolic here. Pft. Because we don't make those type of statements. We're kind of, you know, middle of the road podcast. We don't make crazy takes. I think it would be the biggest sports story of all time if Duke did not win the national title this year. All time. All time story. Like I'm, I'm talking every name a sports story, even adjacent sports. OJ in the chase in the murders. That's an adjacent sports story. It would be bigger than that.

[PFT Commenter]

Bigger than Deflategate?

[Big Cat]

Bigger. Bigger than Leicester City? Bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

Aaron Hernandez.

[Big Cat]

Bigger. Spygate bigger. Duke not winning at all this year would be the biggest, the most consequential sports story of all time. Not our lifetimes of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the equipment manager from the New York Giants that kept throwing like practice helmets down the stairs to make them appear game worn. And then he got away with it at the end.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that one might actually.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a massive story.

[Big Cat]

That was a massive, massive story.

[PFT Commenter]

Nobody talks about that.

[Big Cat]

Who could forget that story? Listen, why.

[PFT Commenter]

I do. I do think if you look at the totality of the last two years, what Duke has, what they've put out on the court, it's crazy. It's. It would be kind of shocking if neither one of those teams won.

[Big Cat]

Hank, what do you.

[Hank]

It's March. All I hear is, this is March. Anything can happen. It's beauty of the NCAA tournament. The stats you just gave also like counter. Counteract your argument.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Hank]

Because you said they're the best team, but the other teams that you named also lost.

[Big Cat]

The other Duke teams also lost? Yeah. Oh, that's weird. I didn't realize that.

[Hank]

But that's proof that anything can happen

[PFT Commenter]

in March, I think.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so that means that two, two of the other best teams of all time were Duke and they lost.

[PFT Commenter]

It's almost like there's a system or a trend that we.

[Big Cat]

I'm just, I'm a numbers guy. You know that. I'm a stats guy. I bring the stats. You. This is what Hank does too. When I say a stat, he just picks it apart and goes crazy on it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that this might be the year for Purdue. How about that? I think that Purdue. No one's talking about Purdue. They've been hovering around the top. They. Every time they, they. They start to be discussed in the media, it feels like they lose their next game. I'm going to say Purdue. My money's on Purdue or Nebraska this year.

[Hank]

So also Wisconsin was better. Ken Palm rank rankings in 2015.

[Big Cat]

Then who? Then Duke, but not this year's Duke. We're talking about this year's Duke. I don't know why you keep going in the past.

[Hank]

I'm just, I'm just.

[Big Cat]

Historical stats.

[Hank]

It makes sense.

[Big Cat]

It makes no sense what you're talking about. The, the.

[Hank]

I'm just.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Hank]

There's.

[Big Cat]

But we're. Let's stick to. To right now, right here. Got it. We're talking about right now, right here. And I'm only talking about teams that are plus 40 or close to plus 40 in the Ken Palme error.

[Hank]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

And that would be Duke last year and Duke 1999, both teams that did not win the national title. But again, these are stats. I don't know why you're. You're getting upset. About this. I'm pro Duke here. They're going to win it all, Max.

[Brady Tkachuk]

You.

[Big Cat]

You watch college ball. There's no team that's even close.

[Max]

The one thing I really want to note is Zach had no idea. He turned to me while you were doing this. He's like, is Duke really that good this year?

[Big Cat]

They are. Zach. Zach. They're the greatest team ever, this Duke team. Better than the Zion team. What? Wait, no, that Zion team. Did they win a. No. Oh, shit.

[PFT Commenter]

They're really good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Cause they're going to this Duke teams and win a title. By the way, shout out Arizona as well. They clinched the Big 12 on Monday night.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty impressive.

[Big Cat]

Can I say, though, and this is stupid because it's. When our. And we don't do bits on this show, I think everyone agrees we give it straight to the listener. But, you know, we've talked about Mark Few before. Can't win the big one, can't get to the Final Four. Tommy Lloyd being a Mark Few disciple. Even though Arizona is really, really, really good. Yeah, I'm just like, that guy's getting choking marks.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that's. It's a good school to talk about with that. Like, you go back throughout the. The years with Arizona and you had guys that were legendary coaches there that. That could not get to the Final Four. It took them a long time. It's one of those schools where it's fun to be like, I don't know if Arizona could do this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But it would be. Would Mark Few get to share in the first Final Four if they went?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think so. I think that if. If Arizona goes to the Final Four, you have to give credit where credit's due. And that would be. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The Godfather, Mark Few and two dogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, his two dogs are sitting in the front seat somewhere.

[Big Cat]

Front seat for a deal.

[PFT Commenter]

They should do dui. Sniffing dogs. Like, there should be a dog that you can have chilling in your car. You get in, you're above a 0.08, your dog just like bites you and won't let you turn the ignition of the car on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm nervous. I. I don't. This is the point of the show where I don't know if Hank has. There's two options. Hank has one checked out, or Hank is deep in the lab of looking up stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I got.

[Big Cat]

He's trying to look up stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta be honest.

[Big Cat]

It's powerful. Which also could quickly turn into just checking out because you. You weren't able to find the stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think that Hank is locked in on college basketball. I don't think he is. Well, I think that's going to start like once tip off of Thursday, then Hank will.

[Big Cat]

But in Hank's defense, why would he be locked in? It's a for. It's a foregone concl win.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm locked in a college basketball. Hank.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Since the Super Bowl, I listen. I'm not a guy that has room in my brain to care deeply about college basketball. While college football and NFL football is going on, there's. It just doesn't work. I can try. Doesn't work. So my cycle, which I have every year right after the super bowl is over, I get heavy into college basketball. So, yeah, I am. I'm big time into college basketball right now.

[Big Cat]

Big time. It's big time.

[PFT Commenter]

I told you. I told you my picks. I got. It feels like the visualization pick of Izzo in his last year going back to Final Four. Feel like that's going to happen. I like Houston a lot. I've been timing the Cougars. I think I timed him perfectly. And then obviously you've got the juggernauts in Nebraska and the other juggernaut in Purdue. Purdue just winning cultures. All right, Hank, he's locked in. That's my Final Four right now. I don't care what the bracket says. That's what.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't matter if they're all in the same region.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't matter. They're gonna. Doesn't matter. Life finds a way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I actually think I should probably donate my ticket from Florida and Yukon because what's the point of having

[PFT Commenter]

it right with Duke? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's like, come on, just throw it out. The. The other. The other college basketball story that I saw. Did you guys see the Big 12 court, the Big 12 court for the conference tournament? Do you see it?

[PFT Commenter]

I have not seen it yet.

[Hank]

Pac 12.

[Big Cat]

No. The Big 12.

[Max]

Big 12 quarter sick.

[Big Cat]

The Big 12. Colorado's in the Big 12 in. Arizona State's in the Big 12.

[Hank]

Oh, I saw the Arizona.

[Big Cat]

I saw.

[Hank]

I saw. It was Arizona State.

[Big Cat]

It is a glass court. That was. That was perfect. In the. You guys had an art. You guys had a. Who doesn't watch. Who watches college basketball off PFD's like, I didn't see it. And Hank's like Pac 12 because Colorado.

[Hank]

Well, I saw Arizona State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're in the Big 12 for the record 12.

[Hank]

I also was not.

[Max]

That's been a big college story. Pac12 just doesn't exist.

[Big Cat]

Anymore does not exist. Well, it actually does.

[Max]

Well, yes.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And it's actually growing.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a pack.

[Big Cat]

Gonzaga. Yeah. Gonzaga's gonna be in the Pac 12 next year. Yeah. That was the last talked about regular season game. Yeah. Got you there. Hit him with the two. Hit him two of the forehead.

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So the Big 12 court, this new technology, it is glass. And. And they can change it in a click of a button. Like they can change it from one home court to the other. I. I hope and pray that they can play potentially like another game on the court while the game's being played. So if, let's say Kansas is blowing out, I don't know, West Virginia, and they're like, this game's boring. They can then play the SEC game on the court so you can watch tv. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And that would be. That would be perfect for our attention spans, would it not?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Or if you got two old coaches, the game sucks. Just turn into a pickleball court.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

While they're playing.

[Big Cat]

So I did see the funny joke. Someone said that they're gonna make it look like it's not a basketball court just so Darren Peterson will actually play.

[PFT Commenter]

Just hologram Darren Peterson.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. Trick him into being like, this isn't a basketball court. And then so he's like, oh, okay, I'm. I'm down to be on this.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, what they would have to do is they would have to have it be an NBA court.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And just he pretend that he was in the league now. But I don't understand if they put, like, if they put grass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or if they made it look like asphalt on the court.

[Big Cat]

I kind of want. I mean, is someone going to hack into this? Because that would be very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be very funny if. Yeah. Like Arizona State's playing and it's just porn.

[Big Cat]

It's just porn going.

[PFT Commenter]

It's hardcore pornography on the court.

[Big Cat]

And then you get. I also don't understand how it doesn't break. It's glass. I don't understand anything. Yeah, it's. How is this. Is it going to be slippery? It has to be. It's glass.

[Hank]

Yeah. The glass part doesn't make sense.

[Big Cat]

Makes no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Falls on it. It just shatters into your elbow.

[Big Cat]

I think it's pretty thick glass. But still, when I, When I hear glass, you're like, you shouldn't be playing on that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's the new Big 12 court. And they're going to use it for the Big 12 tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

They're trying to make Everything. The sphere. Yeah, that's what they're doing. Like this is the sphere just in basketball court format. They should. If they want us to watch, they should turn into a football field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like put the. Put the yard markers on there. Give us the yellow line.

[Big Cat]

That would be cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Give us the shield at half court.

[Big Cat]

That would be very.

[PFT Commenter]

I would. I would watch that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So we're. We're getting closer and closer. The. The brackets are.

[PFT Commenter]

Did Hank think that this is the Pac12 tournament?

[Big Cat]

He. He thought it was a Pack12 tournament because he still saw Arizona State in Colorado.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's okay. That's okay. He's still deep, looking into. I don't know what he's about. He's gonna hit us with something.

[Hank]

I'm looking up the ASB glass floor.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

They did it for the NBA all star game in 2024.

[Big Cat]

Is this the one that Luca was complaining about slipping on? So this seems like a problem because they're going to play a shitload of games on this Unders. I don't know. Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Or does that favor the. The offense?

[Big Cat]

I have no idea how this. Do we need a glass court here?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we do.

[Big Cat]

I think we do. We need to get the glass court.

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be sick if it was like NBA Jam Te where like a part of the court lit up and then all of a sudden that's a four point shot from around half.

[Hank]

Millie.

[Big Cat]

But our. But we have a smaller court. True. So got to be like more closer to two.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or high school. Oh, yeah. Look. See the. The all star game went over by. They scored almost 400 points. So we got to take the over glass courts. Okay. Congrats Memes. Br. Hall franchise tagged. That's a good move.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I think it's a good move.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So the Seahawks are moving on from,

[Matthew Tkachuk]

you know, the Super Bowl MVP running back.

[Big Cat]

But wait, are they officially Who?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

The Seahawks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, they're. They're not gonna sign them.

[Big Cat]

They're gonna sign Kenneth Walker.

[PFT Commenter]

Not gonna tag him.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

But you know, you got to keep good players.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So you're gonna try to tag Bree Saul and then try to negotiate while he's under the tag.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Extend him three years. The only question I would ask you memes about is it a good move? Is David Montgomery went for a kind of a nice haul for 28 year old running backs. Dave Montgomery got traded to the Texans was a fourth and a seventh. I think Rapport and Schefter got it wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a fourth and a seventh. Big Cat. It was, it was, it was pretty much a fifth. Okay, it was pretty much a fifth because Rapaport tweeted it out and he said, yeah, it's for a fifth round pick. And then he had to correct himself and said it was a fourth and a seventh. So yes, essentially fifth round value. Okay, so I was right about my wrong report.

[Big Cat]

Fifth round value yeah. And so, yeah, they both tried to rush to get it. This was, this was predictable in the fact that we talked about it during the season. That Dave Montgomery, like towards the end of the season, he, he was get. He was averaging like seven, seven carries a game and they just weren't using him. He was frustrated. He still has some good years left, I would assume. Good for the Texans. Although I don't understand the Texans strategy of just constantly trading away offensive linemen when they stink at offensive line. I know Juice Scruggs is, you know, is not going to be an elite. He's more of adept guy. But still, you would think a team that's like, hey, if you could point to one thing, the Texans need its offensive line and they've now traded offensive line in two back to. In back to back off seasons. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But Larry McTuns actually had a great year this year when they traded away. What do you mean they traded away? Laramie Tons.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but that's, that seems counterproductive for a team that needs offensive line.

[PFT Commenter]

If you. Well, a lot of the Houston Texas offensive linemen have been very bad at playing offensive line.

[Big Cat]

Right. But they keep trading them. Yeah, that's my point is like, so you want, you would think that you'd want to hold on to some of the things that you're really bad at

[PFT Commenter]

for just depth sake in order to, to hope that they get better. Like they can be as bad as they possibly have been in the past.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Max]

They also traded another one to the Eagles last year. I can't remember his name.

[Big Cat]

Right. That's.

[Max]

He got cut within like a week.

[Big Cat]

But that's kind of my point. I know that they're not good, but it's just very funny to be like, we really need offensive line help and yet we also are going to still keep trading them.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you just need to say if you're the Texans, like, the, the more people we have playing offensive line for us that haven't played for us in the past, the better because it hasn't worked out. Chances are anybody else will be better than the guys that we have. Breeze hall as Like a, as a franchise guy, do you think you're going to trade him or you're hoping that he gets traded? Memes.

[Big Cat]

No. If you sign him, you keep them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You want to, you want to hang on to Bree for the long term. He's one of the guys that I feel like, I don't know with the, the age of a running back in terms of when they kind of lose their window. If I was a Jets fan, I would try to get as much as I could for him and then have him go somewhere else. Like I thought that he was going to be traded last year.

[Big Cat]

No, I agree with you, but that's my point with the Seahawks. Moving on from Kenneth Walker.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good franchise.

[Big Cat]

Just won a Super Bowl. He was your super bowl mvp. They're letting him go because they, the

[PFT Commenter]

value of the running back isn't that important. Yeah, I, I heard a, a wild take this morning on the way into work. I heard that the jets should trade three first round picks to move up one spot and get Mendoza.

[Big Cat]

I feel like that works.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you do that?

[Brady Tkachuk]

You do that?

[PFT Commenter]

You would. Okay that Memes.

[Big Cat]

Three first round picks.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

With the, with the QB draft next year. Yeah, I mean the thing about the

[Matthew Tkachuk]

QB draft, every ne.

[Big Cat]

Every QB draft is the best one. That like one year later. No, but this year's like not a strong one.

[PFT Commenter]

You got one guy.

[Big Cat]

Next year is going to be a strong one.

[PFT Commenter]

But they said that about this year.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Last year they said this year is going to be the best.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but a lot of guys come out the best one. Arch didn't come. So Memes, you're saying Club Nick stinks? Yeah, stinks.

[PFT Commenter]

Nussi with Sassy Nussy stinks.

[Big Cat]

I mean, they all just kind of stunk. I guess your, your point is correct. That they could all stink again. Like next year's crop could stink.

[PFT Commenter]

So Memes, you're saying that you would give up the second pick this year and then you're. What's your second first round pick? Is that like number, what number is that this year? Yeah. 16. So you give up number two, number 16, and then your first pick next year to trade up and get Mendoza, move up one spot? I would do that.

[Big Cat]

Because you still have two first round picks next year.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I, I think I probably would too if I, if I was the Jets. I just don't think that the Raiders would ever do that. No, it's like the Raiders, they need a quarterback and they have their guy.

[Big Cat]

They're there that's also a, like a job security situation where Fernando Mendoza is really good. Then you're screwed. Oh yeah, you're absolutely him away.

[PFT Commenter]

There's, there's also a quarterback that's moving up as he threw at the combine and he looked good. He impressed him. Scouts Ty Simpson is now being talked about as being a first round pick. I, I, it's always the guys that get better at football, the further away they get from playing football, that, that make me scratch my head. I, I don't think I would use a first rounder on top.

[Big Cat]

Can I throw someone out for Ty Simpson who might draft him? Maybe hits her team out?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Philadelphia Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

Interesting.

[Big Cat]

I think they might draft a quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

You think so?

[Max]

You think they're gonna take first round?

[Big Cat]

No, probably not first round but, but

[PFT Commenter]

what if you fell to the second.

[Big Cat]

What if he fell to the second match?

[PFT Commenter]

Like there's been a history in Philadelphia of drafting guys in the second round when you don't really necessarily think that they're in the market for a quarterback.

[Max]

Teams draft quarterbacks every year.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a fact.

[Max]

Backup quarterback.

[Big Cat]

That is a quarterback fact check. Correct.

[Max]

Backup quarterbacks are very valuable position in football.

[PFT Commenter]

Why are you trading yours away then?

[Max]

Because starting quarterbacks are more valuable. So if you can get started quarterback value for a backup quarterback, you take it.

[PFT Commenter]

Now it's like you got two quarterbacks.

[Max]

Yeah, but then, but then if you lose, if you lose your backup quarterback, you got to replace a backup quarterback.

[Big Cat]

The, the report came out that the Eagles are looking for a first round pick for A.J. brown and a top 100.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Two picks. That seems pricey.

[Max]

That's the price.

[Big Cat]

That's the price.

[Max]

That's price.

[Big Cat]

How he set the price.

[Max]

If you don't, if you don't want to pay that price if you keep. Oh no, we have to keep them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I like that. That's a good, that's good, good thought process.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the odds have shifted on Max Crosby. So Max Crosby now odds on favorite is the Bears.

[Big Cat]

So I don't understand these.

[PFT Commenter]

Minus110 to play for the Bears next year.

[Big Cat]

I don't understand these markets because it feels like I saw it on Bears Twitter. There are a lot of people being like it's gonna happen any minute now. Is that, does everyone just go rush and bet it? Because it can't be. It feels like the next team. Markets can be manipulated. Not manipulated, but they are very, very fluid. Based on just like one tweet can

[PFT Commenter]

just change Everything or it can just be one bet. So after we had Rossini on, I did bet the team that we edit out and then that team just shot up in the rankings.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After one bet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it does feel like they're, they're, they're very, very fluid.

[PFT Commenter]

It's really, it's very easy for one shithead to complete. Yeah. To manipulate these markets.

[Big Cat]

I would be pumped if it was Max Crosby to the Bears. I'd be very, very pumped.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's amazing.

[Big Cat]

Really, really good at football and would be instantly make the Bears a really, really good defense.

[PFT Commenter]

And he knows the area. He knows the Midwest. Yeah, I've seen people say that. Like he could look for him to go to the Lions potentially because he knows the Midwest and him and Caleb

[Big Cat]

doing a podcast together that he went on. Caleb went on Max's podcast.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

So everyone's like, well they're friends.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're actually friends with everyone who's come on this podcast. Seth McFarlane.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a fact. Great friends. Great guy.

[Big Cat]

Fact. Okay, anything else before we do who's back of the week or sorry. Hot sequel Throne. Do we have any other. Oh, I guess we can get to it on Hot Seat. Cool tone. Because I was. The World Baseball Classic is coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, people kind of forgot about that.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys see Aaron judges speech?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm ready to roll man. I'm ready to fucking go.

[Big Cat]

That was one of the worst speeches of all time. If they're what? Don't put that out. If your World Baseball Classic don't put that out. I think they're trying to get a little bit of the buzz from the Olympics. Team USA would have lost the gold medal game if, if someone stood up and gave Aaron Judge's speech.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing is what was the exact quote in baseball it's like you don'. You don't need a guy to give you a rah rah speech three days before you start playing a baseball game.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's a get me pumped up so I can run through a brick wall and then go stand with my hands on my, on my knees. Yeah, for, for innings at a time. While the ball doesn't get hit my way. You're sacrificing for the brothers.

[PFT Commenter]

And when does. When is their first game?

[Big Cat]

Friday. Friday. Brazil.

[PFT Commenter]

So this was, this was four days before their first game and Judge giving a pop up speech.

[Big Cat]

Well, you don't want to get the guys too emotionally out of control close to first pitch.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what, the more I think about it, if this is the speech he's giving on Monday. Imagine how great the speech is going to get by Friday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, did you see that? Canada just is so desperate for a win in anything that Team Canada's playing against the Toronto Blue Jays on Wednesday as a warm up. So they can just get a win. They need a win some. Canada will win.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very sad.

[Big Cat]

One way or another, Canada will win.

[PFT Commenter]

It's extremely sad.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

We got a retirement.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Saw it.

[Hank]

Bad bear center, bad. 27 years old.

[PFT Commenter]

Hibernating or retiring? He's out.

[Big Cat]

He retired. Drew Dolman.

[Hank]

Drew Dahlman.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Retired. Shocking news.

[Hank]

Four seasons in the NFL. Was he good?

[PFT Commenter]

Very good. He's a good player.

[Big Cat]

Really, really good. One of the best centers in the league. Pro Bowler. What's up with Stanford? Listen, I. Well, there's two things.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's talk about it. What's up? What's up? Are you talking about Sam Schwarzene?

[Hank]

I'm just saying, like, the. The early retirements of the NFL. Stanford.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're too smart.

[Big Cat]

I. There's like two. Two things. Go. The first instant reaction was then you have to be a human about it and realize, like, hey, the guy's able to walk away while he still feels healthy. That's awesome for Drew Dahlman. And then it's right back to. Because the Bears, a month and a half ago or whatever. I don't know how long the. I don't know how long the season. What is it, two. Two and a half months ago? The offensive line was a significant strength with Tropillo still playing left tackle. He. Torres Pateller in the. In the game against the packers and Drew Dahlman at center. And now they go into the draft and it's like, fuck. We need not only a lot of help on the defensive line, but we also. One of our strengths. The strengths of our team is now something that needs a lot of holes filled. And the center position, very. It's very important in every team. But Ben Johnson had a really good center in Detroit, and he had a really good center in Chicago. And now. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it's. If you had to pick a time for him to retire, this isn't the worst time. It's like the start of free agency. So you know what you have to do for free agency for the draft.

[Big Cat]

Oh, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Then he didn't like hold it out until. But it was later on when maybe some guys get off the board.

[Big Cat]

If he's 27, you're like, oh, we finally have a really good center. We have a really good interior offensive line. The Bears have something that you need to have a strength at. They finally did it right. That was the entire focus of last offseason. They nailed it with an awesome offensive line this year. And now you're back to. I mean, you still have Tuney, you still have Jonah Jackson, you still have Darn O. Wright offensive line issues this year. No, we had very good offensive.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty good line this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the left tackle was a position that was kind of. I mean, we were. Ozzy Travilla was a rookie and he was working his way in and then he got hurt. But yeah, the interior of the offensive line was like the strength of the team. That's why we were able to run the ball so well down the stretch.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, so there's some good centers that. That could be available. One is Beatish. He was on the Commanders last year and you said that the Bears are talking to him right now.

[Big Cat]

He's. He's at Hallis hall right now.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a good player. He's a very good. I was surprised that the. The commies moved on from. Because I thought he was a. He was a great asset for us up front. And then obviously the. The Ravens haven't had an extension with Linderbaum yet.

[Big Cat]

He's gonna cost $20 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Is going to be an expensive, expensive replacement. I personally would love the.

[Big Cat]

The other part, and I don't know how this works, but it does feel like you were maybe gearing up to get Max Crosby and now with another hole that you have to fill via the drafts of free agency. Like, is that. Is that. I don't think it's one for one that Drew Dahlman retires. You can't do the Max Crosby trade, but the picks become that much more viable or valuable because you have another hole that you have to fill and that sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

They got extra homework. They got extra homework dumped on their desk the night before free agency sucks.

[Big Cat]

Happy for Drew Dahlman, but damn, maybe please come back.

[PFT Commenter]

You're still definitely in the bargaining phase.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, maybe if we just tell him like, hey, we love you. I texted, don't you love football? Ask him if he loves football.

[Big Cat]

I texted Sam Schwarzenegger right away. Our friend who knows all the Stanford guys because he went to Stanford and I said, could you please, in the nicest way possible, ask Drew Dahlman to

[PFT Commenter]

think about unretiring if it were me.

[Big Cat]

I just. That was nice. It was a nice way of asking.

[PFT Commenter]

If it were me, I wouldn't. I would never quit football man. Never sucks.

[Big Cat]

He was about to make a shitload of money. I don't know how Caleb Williams potentially. What?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just asking. I'm just trying to. A sinner killer.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you think that's what happened?

[Hank]

I'm not sure.

[Big Cat]

He said his tweet was damn Hulk with a crying face. So I think. No, I don't. I don't think so. I think he was the. From the reports I've read, this has been something he's been thinking about for a while. So.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think what Hank said, maybe he loved him too much.

[Hank]

Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that what you're saying?

[Hank]

We don't know. It's, you know, it just happened and it's ready to ask all the questions.

[Big Cat]

Let me grieve for a second.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't say pause when he went under center fast enough. Is that what you're saying?

[Hank]

I'm just asking questions.

[Big Cat]

I would say the only, the only small silver lining is that he wasn't. When we fixed our entire offensive line, he wasn't one of the guys we traded for. For. So we signed him. So he didn't trade up trade picks. If Joe Tuni retired.

[PFT Commenter]

What he was.

[Big Cat]

He was on the Falcons, he was on the Falcons. But if Joe, Joe Tuni retired, that would be like, hey, we also traded

[PFT Commenter]

for that and good for Dalman also.

[Big Cat]

Joe Tun's the man, so please don't retire. Please don't have this.

[PFT Commenter]

If I remember, I think Dolman, that that was his second contract. Right. So he was under his rookie deal for his entire time when he was on the Falcons.

[Big Cat]

He was on the Falcons for four years.

[PFT Commenter]

He got paid a decent amount there. But then last year was like the first year that he made big league money, correct? Yeah. So I guess he's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he made $18 million last year.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just ready to walk away. And then. Yeah, the other news, Daniel Jones transition tag, which is my understanding, the transition tag is you get the average of the top 10 players at your position. So he's going to be making a lot of money on a one year deal for the Colts. But other teams have the opportunity to negotiate with them and then the Colts have the opportunity to match any offer that he gets. Yeah, I think that's what the Transition tag means finally. Did I get it? You're a catalogist.

[Big Cat]

You got it.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're spot on.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Final. Final thoughts. One more.

[PFT Commenter]

My final thoughts.

[Big Cat]

Gotta. Gotta find a center. Maybe Linderbaum. Hopefully still Max Crosby, but it feels.

[PFT Commenter]

My final thought. That's baseball.

[Big Cat]

That's baseball. That's porn.

[PFT Commenter]

What's that?

[Big Cat]

That's the other one they say.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, porn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I know when I see it. Yeah, that's baseball.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Hank Hot Sey. Cool throne.

[Hank]

My Hot Sey was going to be Aaron Judge.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I apologize.

[Hank]

I. I'll go with any. Any golf course. I was in the running for the 2045 US.

[PFT Commenter]

This is tough. I thought it was going to be congressional.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's going to be the inverness club. So 2045, Toledo. Clear. Clear. Schedules.

[Big Cat]

Book your stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

They got it. That's tough. It's like college football announcements where they schedule out a conference and, like, 2000 and 50s these tournaments that, like, 2046 is a year that I don't think is going to happen. That's, like 20 years from now.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

And the announcement was there's, like, the return to, like. It's like the. It's. It's not returning there forever.

[Big Cat]

So 2045. How old are we gonna be 20 years from now?

[PFT Commenter]

So 61.

[Big Cat]

19 years from now?

[PFT Commenter]

61. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

60. 61. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you'll be 50.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh. Oh, man.

[PFT Commenter]

You should be able to bet on these.

[Hank]

On what?

[PFT Commenter]

On who's gonna win.

[Big Cat]

2045 is. So. My kids are gonna.

[Hank]

What's Scotty's kid's name?

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be in their 20s.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, this. This feels like it's.

[Hank]

Or Max's kid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Maybe Brooks's kid.

[Hank]

Blake Kapka.

[PFT Commenter]

Blake Kapka.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Maybe one of my kids would be in it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or, you know, standing with me in the gallery, watching.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you just imagine Tiger, like, in the grandstands, like, walking up hugging his kid on 18.

[Big Cat]

This might be. This might. This might be Charlie's last major.

[PFT Commenter]

This is Charlie. This is Charlie.

[Big Cat]

This is Charlie Woods's last major.

[PFT Commenter]

Charlie can. People are going to be asking if he can win the big one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Going into Inverness. And then Tiger's going to be there watching him.

[Hank]

Maybe he's gonna be breaking his dad's, right? Or.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This will be the one he breaks.

[PFT Commenter]

What a moment.

[Big Cat]

Why did they announce it? So do we have all the way till 2045? Yeah, we do.

[Hank]

Yeah. Rip off some US Open.

[Big Cat]

I know. We Shinnecock is coming up again. I think it's this year. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

We've got a couple Pine Shock.

[Hank]

It's going to be at Pebble Beach. Good segue. Pebble Beach. 2027. The Pebble Beach. Our me and PFT spyglass video is coming out on. I think we're going to do it on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Wing foot.

[Big Cat]

So there's 20. All right, 28 is Wing Foot.

[Hank]

29, Pinehurst.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

30, Marion.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

31, Riviera.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, watch out for those 32.

[Hank]

Back to Pebble Beach.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

33, Oakmont Country Club. Hopefully it doesn't rain this time. Faster greens. 2034, Oakland Hills. The south course.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Back to pioneers in 2035. Back to Shinnecock. 36, Pebble. Pebble's hot.

[Big Cat]

Pebble's hot.

[Hank]

2037, Pebble. Oh, Boston. The country club. 2038, Matt Fitzpatrick, Los Angeles Country Club.

[Big Cat]

People didn't like that one.

[Hank]

The North Course.

[Big Cat]

Okay. They didn't like the South.

[Hank]

No, that was. They. They let the people in. That was the problem with that one. Back to Marion. 2040, back to Pinehurst. 2041. Oakmont. 2042, back to Pebble. Wow. 2044. And then Inverness. 2045.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we have 2047.

[Hank]

Oh, and Pioneers.

[Big Cat]

2047 and 2049. Oakmont.

[PFT Commenter]

It goes all the way to 2051. 2051, back to Oakland Hills.

[Hank]

All right, so 2046, you're on the clock.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to get merch from the. The Open that is scheduled right now in like 2050. 20. They already sell hats for sure. Right. For these tournaments that won't happen for another 25 years.

[Big Cat]

So. Okay, the. All right, so we're ready. I actually like the west coast ones because remember the LA Country Club. It was. It's nice when the final round was at like Sunday night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you get prime time.

[Big Cat]

It's awesome.

[Hank]

Pebble. Pebble next year will be fun.

[Big Cat]

Pebble next year will be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

A great tie in for the video, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Great job, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Okay. When your cool turn.

[Hank]

My cool throne is respecting women.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

The Atlanta Hawks announced this week that they're hosting a Magic City Monday honoring the iconic Atlanta strip club at their March 16 game against the Magic. It's kind of crazy honoring a strip club. Well, the Lemon Pepper Wings TI will perform. They'll serve their world famous wings at the game. Limited edition merch. And then NBA champion Celtic legend Luke Cornett went on Medium sounded off. He said allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA Community specifically being complicit in potential objectification of and mistreatment of women in our society.

[Big Cat]

What if it was just about the lemon pepper wings?

[Hank]

But it's not. It's not a wing place. It's a strip club.

[Big Cat]

All right, so Luke Cornett. Fine. Message. No problem with the message. You are not on the Magic. You're not on the Hawks. I thought when this. When I saw this, he was, like, somehow traded to the Hawks or was playing in this game. He's got nothing to do with it. Keep it. Keep your nose out of this, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I did.

[Brady Tkachuk]

What do you mean?

[Hank]

Use your platform.

[Big Cat]

No, keep your nose. I can't go to strip clubs.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't think he was on the Hawks. Well, what do you say? He said, the NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many of whom work diligently every day to make this the best basketball league in the world. Yeah. We should promote an atmosphere that is protective and respectful. The daughters, wives, sisters, mothers, and partners agreed with that. That we know and love. Allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. I think. Listen, I. I respect Luke Cornett for using his platform for go logging on to medium.com and setting up an account and getting back in the blogging game.

[Hank]

He writes a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

I would just. I would just counterpoint and say that, like, it's okay for people to be horny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, also none of your business, because you're not in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing about being horny is, like, yeah, but it's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

The people have been putting in the

[PFT Commenter]

league, like, literally for the entire history of the world. Guys have been like, tits are great.

[Hank]

Yeah. But they're not allowed to promote certain places. Like, but if he was playing in

[Big Cat]

this game, I would. I would totally understand it. I'd be like, all for it. Hey, man, you don't really want to be in a game. What about the kids?

[Hank]

Would you bring your kid to Magic City Night? And they're like, hey, dad, what's Magic City? Yeah, can we go? These ones are so good.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't think they're gonna.

[Hank]

Like, what if they go. What if a kid goes? And is like, these are the best wings I've ever had in my life. Can we please go get these wings?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then I'll be like, all right. Ask your mother.

[Big Cat]

All right, so here's where we're gonna land. Let's let's, let's. Let's be, you know, reasonable about this. Good message. Luke Cornett. Kind of not on Luke Cornette. I will do one thing, though, and it will be the first thing we've done because we. We've done the reverse a lot. Luke Cornett, you're officially not invited to Max's bachelor party. I think that's fair. Like, yeah, we can't have him banned. We cannot have him.

[PFT Commenter]

And I get him out.

[Big Cat]

The guy. Ban him. We can't have him. Hank, do you not agree? I get.

[Hank]

I mean, he probably has a game anyway, but you can't have.

[Big Cat]

Right, Max. You can't have him.

[Max]

No, that. That's not a bachelor party guy. Are there going to be strippers at the game?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think that would be. I don't think I'd be on L. It's not going to be nipples at the game. I would like to maybe do Magic City Day on part of my take.

[Hank]

Yeah, but if they have a Magic City night, you're not going to invite the.

[Big Cat]

Well, it says right here, special live recording Hawks. So it's. It's Matt Kitchens world famous Wings. They're talking about the Wings. You're actually a pervert, Hank. This reminds you and Luke Cornett are perverts for thinking it's about the strip club. It's not the wings.

[Max]

You guys know about the Philly Wing Bowl?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, of course.

[Max]

It kind of sounds like this. It's basically wings, wings and boobs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they're doing Wings, a podcast, and they're. Yeah, but if you look at Magic

[Hank]

City Premiere, they're doing Wings, a podcast,

[PFT Commenter]

and they're selling a hoodie. Those are the three things that they're doing. I don't see anything on there about adult entertainment.

[Hank]

Similar Magic City.

[Big Cat]

No, but similar to 11, maybe Magic City. I've never been, but maybe it's a wing place with strippers, not a strip club.

[Hank]

Magic City dot com. Magic City Premier Atlanta strip club.

[PFT Commenter]

And see, Magic city dot com. Let's just see.

[Big Cat]

I have no problem with Luke Cornett should use his platform wherever he wants. I happen to disagree. And he's not invited to the bachelor party. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Big Cat]

It's like a handshake. Like you. You think your thing, I think my thing. We can disagree. Great.

[PFT Commenter]

There's no nipples on the website. I think no nipples, no Luke Cornett. What he's doing is he's actually drawing more attention to the strippers.

[Big Cat]

Do you think he's Getting paid by Magic City.

[PFT Commenter]

This could be.

[Hank]

I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Viral.

[Big Cat]

I think that might be it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's literally viral.

[Big Cat]

Luke Cornett. I. My real problem with all of this is I just assumed Luke Cornett was playing in this game, and then when I figured out he wasn't and. Are the Hawks going to have Magic City on their jerseys?

[PFT Commenter]

They probably will, and they're playing the Magic.

[Big Cat]

That feels like bad planning.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see.

[Big Cat]

Magic City feels like crazy planning. Does it not be the Magic City versus the Magic.

[PFT Commenter]

We should really do Magic City Day. I'm part of my take.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Just.

[PFT Commenter]

Just for the Wings.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we'll just get some lemon pepper wings.

[Big Cat]

Super Bowls in Atlanta in two years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We'll do a podcast. If Magic City wants to reach out, we'll do a podcast for Magic City City 100. Yep. For the Winx.

[Max]

I still feel like there's a stolen valor of the Wing bull.

[PFT Commenter]

Why?

[Big Cat]

Why? This has nothing to do with.

[PFT Commenter]

You think Philly invented wings?

[Max]

They invented wings and boobs.

[Big Cat]

Wings and boobs.

[Max]

I was just. I was just explaining to Zach what the Wing bowl was, and he said. And he still doesn't believe that.

[Big Cat]

That it's a real thing. It's actually kind of like. For the people that don't know, the sad part of the Eagles actually winning the super bowl, they stopped doing it.

[Max]

They stopped doing the Wing Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

For the people that don't know the Wing bowl in Philly, once a year, I think right before the super bowl, they would have a wing eating competition at the Sixers Stadium. And for some reason, there would just be strippers also in the stadium, like, going up and down, like, the aisles. And if they. It was also kind of like Mardi Gras that the. That if the Jumbotron cut to a girl, they, like, they basically had.

[Hank]

Had.

[PFT Commenter]

Had to.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Or.

[Hank]

Or.

[Max]

Or else it would be like, boo.

[Big Cat]

Visceral boos from the crowd.

[Max]

So.

[Big Cat]

And they did this because the Eagles had never won a Super Bowl.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then. Well, they won a Super bowl and they stopped.

[Max]

I mean, it's. It's insane that that was a real thing that happened.

[Big Cat]

But.

[Max]

But it was. It's probably good that it got canceled.

[PFT Commenter]

But listen, I think that it's more offensive to women that they would be there watching a Hawks Magic game. That's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be the real tragedy. But I think it's in our best interest to just wait for all the facts to come out. And I. By that, I mean, let's wait to see what Charles Barkley has to say. And then whatever he says, people will be like, yeah, that makes sense, don't you think, Hank?

[Big Cat]

It's a little demeaning of. Of Lou Cornett to be like, this is disgusting. What these strippers like, strippers have the right to do whatever they want to do. Like that's, that's. You're demeaning their profession.

[Hank]

Of course strippers can do whatever they want to do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but. But Luke Cornet's.

[Hank]

It's more the team. It's the team endorsing the team. Endorsing it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mostly have a problem. I have a problem with.

[Big Cat]

I can't a cancel culture guy right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm offended on behalf of Magic City.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the Atlanta Hawks to put their brand on it.

[Hank]

I'm thinking about that.

[Big Cat]

It's like we strippers there.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to go to Magic City and not think about the Atlanta Hawks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's offensive that you make me think about that back.

[Big Cat]

I'm with you. If they. If they were like, hey, we're gonna have stripper like, you can't bring a kid to. To that. This is about the wings.

[Hank]

It's not.

[Big Cat]

Okay, it is. It says world famous wings things and a ti. Performance and a ti.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Bring the community together.

[PFT Commenter]

You ever have the lemon pepper wet?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

You would like it.

[PFT Commenter]

You should wait until you have the lemon pepper wet, then open your mouth.

[Big Cat]

That was a really good discussion we had. Okay. I still can't believe he's not playing in the game. Was that not shocking to you?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yes, it's a major.

[Big Cat]

I thought. I thought for sure they were playing the spurs or like I said, that Luke Cornette had been traded to the hawks.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a major. What is Ja Rule thinking at this moment?

[Big Cat]

One.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta know any. Any controversy in the NBA now. Gotta rush to medium.com and see what Luke says.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft. Your hot seat. Cool. Toronto.

[PFT Commenter]

My hot seat is stolen valor.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Because me and Big Cat just stole some serious valor. We did. And it's pretty incredible.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty incredible.

[Big Cat]

So we did.

[PFT Commenter]

We had forgotten about this, but these just appeared on our desk yesterday. Don't call me PFT commenter anymore. Don't call Big Cat Big Cat anymore. I'm now colonel commenter, and this is Colonel Cat. We are officially Kentucky colonels as licensed by the state of Kentucky.

[Big Cat]

Signed by the governor of Kentucky, Andy Beshear. Yeah. Insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty crazy. Now this, it might be from last year. It does say 2025, but we just found these certificates yesterday.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really? I didn't realize that.

[PFT Commenter]

I just saw it in the year of our Lord 2025. In the 233rd year of the Commonwealth. Yeah. February 21, 2025. Big Cat and I officially became Kentucky Colonels as. As signed off on by the governor of the state for our work in reuniting Rick Patino with Big Blue Nation.

[Big Cat]

Incredible. Hank, would you like to apologize to pft And I now knowing that you were talking to two colonels.

[Hank]

No. What does that even mean?

[Big Cat]

Put you in.

[PFT Commenter]

We're a colonel, dude.

[Hank]

What is.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you know what a colonel is? It's a rank higher than you. What are you?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, what are you? You're a colonel.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you Private?

[Big Cat]

What are you?

[Hank]

What are. I'm a human.

[Big Cat]

We're journal. Yeah, we're humans.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm a human kernel.

[Hank]

So you're Popcorn.

[Big Cat]

Respect Pre pop popcorn.

[PFT Commenter]

Respect the bat. That's your thinking. Red and box.

[Big Cat]

We should get badges.

[PFT Commenter]

We should. Gotta get bad guns. We should get guns and badges and those little, like. We need to get stripes to put on our shoulders.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we gotta. We gotta get badges. We gotta start flashing badges, people.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know what this means, but I'm pretty sure that we can just go to Kentucky and do whatever we want.

[Big Cat]

Yep. And. Oh, we got a trick, Hank, into going to Kentucky with us. Then we arrest them.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you have power of arrest, where you can be judge, jury, and executioner.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

In the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Thank you to the state.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I've always wanted to be a colonel, but I didn't want to sign up for the military. This is way easier.

[Big Cat]

Dude, you're tank.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You're on.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

You're so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You better stay out of Kentucky, buddy.

[Big Cat]

You are.

[PFT Commenter]

So far, I wouldn't say Frankfurt. Stay out of Louisville.

[Hank]

It is a lifetime commission. So you're good there.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right, done. So we always can fall back on that. So what if gets crazy? It's like, hey, we're still colonels.

[PFT Commenter]

What do colonels get, hank?

[Hank]

There are 350, 000 living colonels.

[Big Cat]

All right, how many. How many people are in the world, Hank? Seven billion. So three. Good odds.

[PFT Commenter]

350,000 and two. Yeah, update that.

[Big Cat]

So what do we get with it? Do we get chicken?

[Hank]

Trying to find some other notable ones.

[Big Cat]

We get a horse.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying to look this up right now. The historic. That also might mean, like, in history.

[Big Cat]

Hank, is this the first podcast ever done by two colonels?

[Hank]

Might be probably Kentucky Sports radio, maybe.

[Big Cat]

You think they're colonels? No chance.

[PFT Commenter]

I bet Matt Jones is. He probably had something to do with this colonel.

[Big Cat]

Are you in a official. Is this like being kned?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're kned in Kentucky. This is like. It's better than a key to the city. We got. We can do whatever we want in the entire state.

[Big Cat]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. We've got. We probably get free bourbon. Every governor decides a selection process. A number of colonel SES that are issued. The process has previously required a nomination from another colonel. Our direct recognition. I think that maybe Matt Jones might have nominated us to be colonels.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's were on par with the Indiana Sagamores of the Wabash.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

The Nebraska Admirals.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

The Ohio Commodores, the Rhode Island Commodores, the Texas Admirals and the Arkansas Travelers.

[Big Cat]

We should collect them all.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Next time Bill Clinton's a colonel.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Great.

[Big Cat]

Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Good guy. Part parts of him had a lot of fun.

[Big Cat]

We're good.

[Hank]

Bobby Knight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Legend.

[Big Cat]

Well, no. So take one off the 350. He's dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Arkansas Traveler. That feels like the next one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like to be an Arkansas travel.

[Big Cat]

What was the Texas one? Admiral.

[PFT Commenter]

Texas. I think it's an admiral in the Texas state Navy.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Love it.

[Big Cat]

We're in. Okay. What's your cool throw?

[PFT Commenter]

I was just too excited about the. About that. My. My cool throne is going to be. It's actually more of a hot seat. But cool throne is, I guess.

[Big Cat]

Hank, he's not a colonel because.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he kind of turned his back on. On live golf not too long ago. And now there's like an international diplomatic crisis brewing with the live community and the live tour because you've got eight players that are in the live golf league that are stuck and doesn't look like they're going to be able to make it to Hong Kong for their next event of the year because of the war.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

So all their planes are grounded over there.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

And so now you've got guys like Lee Westwood and Sam Horsfield, real legends of the game that won't be able to make it to the next live golf event.

[Big Cat]

Potential four aces.

[PFT Commenter]

And this is why you get involved with the Saudis in general is so that you can make sure to get your way out of war zone. They're really good at that type of thing. And it seems like they're taking their eye off the ball a little bit. Are any of these guys aces? Hank. Tom McKibben. Caleb Surratt. Oh. Thomas Dietri.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

The twin toms.

[Big Cat]

Twin tom.

[Hank]

Twin Thomas.

[Big Cat]

So you lost the four ace.

[Hank]

That's not good.

[PFT Commenter]

You've got an ace that's stuck without

[Big Cat]

an ace right now. You look up colonels.

[PFT Commenter]

He's looking up if there's any, like, death penalty for killing a Kentucky Charlie Chapman. Okay.

[Hank]

Chris Stapleton.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Yeah, we're colonels, dude. Yeah, used to. And you will address us as such.

[Big Cat]

Enjoy it. Enjoy our colonel.

[PFT Commenter]

So I would like to see. I would like to see you salute us, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, why don't you salute us, Hank?

[Hank]

I will not be doing that.

[Big Cat]

Just come on. You just do this, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

Give us a little salute to the forehead.

[Big Cat]

Look at that.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

That's a good soldier. Thank you. Hey, thank you, Max. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Everyone here is respected colonels except Hank. He is not saluted.

[Hank]

Dick Smothers.

[Big Cat]

Awesome name.

[PFT Commenter]

Very cool.

[Big Cat]

Great name.

[PFT Commenter]

Also cool throwing memes. Happy birthday, memes.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday, memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody wants to know about memes. Birthday. Happy birthday memes.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Good guy Memes.

[Big Cat]

I hope you memes.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

30. I'm turning 30. Till I turn 40.

[Max]

It's 31.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Happy birthday, memes. We love you.

[PFT Commenter]

You do anything fun? Memes.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

No. Might get a blowjob.

[Big Cat]

Oh, memes. Don't say that around Hank. Play some ncaa, Rebuild the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

You act like it's a good night. It's like picking up a six pack from the store job tonight.

[Big Cat]

I love it. Okay, my hot seat is Floyd Mayweather, because I'm starting to think Floyd Mayweather might not have a lot of money left. So he's fighting Manny Pacquiao in September, which we already talked about. He's also fighting a Greek kickboxer in June in Athens, Greece. It feels like Floyd Mayweather shouldn't be fighting this much at his age.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I mean, I'm. I'm respectfully opting out of all Floyd Mayweather content. Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna watch a single. I. I don't want to see Floyd Mayweather do anything. I wish he would just go off and kind of be peaceful, live his life. Respectfully, Floyd. We had a long time when a big part of the sports attention economy was dedicated around Floyd Mayweather and all the weird that he was up to. I thought it was past that, so I would like to remain past that.

[Hank]

There was a first lady named Lady Bird.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Lady Bird Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's going to be Johnson's fun fact why do you take over after JFK got. She's a crown ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

She's a. They have woke colonels now.

[Big Cat]

I always wondered this. If you're Floyd Mayweather and you were running out of money, why wouldn't you do one of these last like the Pacquiao fight or something and then save it?

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean? Save the money or save the money?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Because if you are. Because they don't learn like super insane rich and then you go broke, but you have the ability to basically like get out of debt with a, with a one time fight, wouldn't you just do the one time fight and then be like, all right, hey, I'm going to just. I'm gonna live normal now.

[PFT Commenter]

You would think that that would be. He's in debt. What they do, he's trying to get

[Hank]

back to zero and then he's gonna accrue more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But every time they, they have a fight like this and they get paid off it, they think, oh, I still got it. People still care about me. So I can do another one next time. Yeah. Just, you know what he should do? He should do like let. Okay, Floyd Mayweather for one night only. I'm just gonna take on the first 20 guys that want to fight me. Just like off the street. Random dude, step into the ring, Bonnie blue, one by one. Yeah. He should be the bot. Yeah. Bonnie blow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Max, would you like to say anything correct yourself from Sunday, Queen Elizabeth? Go ahead.

[Max]

Mayweather. Yeah, Mayweather.

[PFT Commenter]

Pacquiao.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

I said it was the first ever sporting event in this fear. It's the first boxing event in the sphere. There was a UFC card there, which I don't remember at all.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But it did happen. Thank you. Because people were very.

[Max]

People were mad at me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I. That one slipped my mind.

[Big Cat]

It's very funny, the idea of someone in awl, you know, the 10 year anniversary, listening and still being like, how do they fuck this up? We fuck up everything. Literally every show there's. We're littered landmines of errors and mistakes.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a pretty easy one. Yeah, that's a pretty. I'd say let that one slide.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Let that for the 10 year. You know what? Take a couple pictures every now and then. We up a lot of things. Some of them we got to just, you know, take a pitch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Also, if you're gonna, if you're gonna have that energy for Max, save that energy for Memes. Memes is right. Seahawks not expected to tag Kenneth Walker iii.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes got it right. As first reported by memes on this

[Big Cat]

podcast, Teddy Two Gloves Colonel Matt Jones is a colonel.

[Hank]

Lamar Jackson, not a colonel.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like to nominate Lamar Jackson to be a colonel. As a colonel, I'm entitled to do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you like to nominate Hank to be a colonel?

[Big Cat]

Big Cat? Absolutely not. He didn't salute us. My cool throne is Vincent Trocheck's son. Because I don't know if you guys saw this, but. Oh, so it was Matt Jones who made it happen. Oh, wait, maybe he said yes. Who made that happen. I think that's him. Thank you. If it was you, Vincent Trocheck's son had the quote of the NHL trade deadline. By the way, I love the NHL trade deadline. They do it right, like a month before the end of the season. That's what it should be. It shouldn't be halfway through. You should be able to keep the hope alive.

[Hank]

I like the baseball. I like the baseball trade deadline.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

It's like, just enough time to make a run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. That's closer. I. I'm saying, like, yeah, like the NFL and NBA. It's like, why are we doing this? So, you know, give us a little bit. Go a little bit deeper. But anyway, Vincent Trocheck said that he was. He talked to his kids about the possibility of being traded to prepare them, and his son, who is seven, replied, well, I'll stay because, you know, I have a hockey team here and I didn't get traded. Good thought by the son.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, he's right.

[PFT Commenter]

He is 100.

[Big Cat]

You didn't get right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like he. Yeah, the family doesn't get traded.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Only daddy gets traded.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I read an article about the trade deadline in the Athletic the other day, and it was like, here's what we expect teams to do. And pretty much every team was just like, we expect them to make a move. Just like, it's wide open, this trade deadline. A lot of teams, nobody knows what's going to happen. I. I saw that the abs might get active with it, get back in the game. I saw one thing that was kind of fun to look at. Goldie Bob maybe. Maybe goes out to Edmonton.

[Big Cat]

That would be fun.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be a fun thing to look at.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. It feels like there's going to be a chaotic trade deadline.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Zach finishes off my hot seat this

[Matthew Tkachuk]

week is going to be Rams fans.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Los Angeles Rams fans.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

More specifically, because Pugan Cool might be

[Big Cat]

focused on everything but football. Right.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he seems like he's having a good time. He's on an elite bachelor run.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

We're talking Sarah Safari at the mall, undercover.

[Big Cat]

We're talking ice side overtime. Meg, I think I know.

[PFT Commenter]

I know what all these words mean, but Hank doesn't.

[Hank]

The. The overtime Megan picture is so funny. I'm gonna send it to you.

[PFT Commenter]

It or I.

[Big Cat]

It's. I say what you said again. I side with the overtime Meg said a courtside. You know, they're at the Kings game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Ringside. Eyesight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're right there.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

But it just. It looks like a great time and.

[Big Cat]

But I think you should be worried if you're a fan, because he's. He's.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

He's focused. He's not on. He's not focused on the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He did have a good line to Cindy Sweeney the other day, though. I guess that was a couple weeks ago where she said she was looking for a risk taker, someone who goes skydiving. And he just quotes me and said, I love skydiving.

[Big Cat]

Playing the field, crazy. But he's not playing the football field.

[Hank]

So they're at a hockey game, and they've showed him on the Jumbotron and they had the name tags. It's like Puka Nakua. And then in small font above it is his, like, at, and it's whatever. Puka. Puka is dead for Megan. They put overtime Megan as like, her official name, and then her AT is like her actual real name.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's great. That's great. By the way, Zach, I would counterpoint Puka doesn't have a game.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I know, but I just. When you're on this kind of heater, I think it's.

[Big Cat]

It's going to transcend, and this is going to bleed into the regular season. This feels like. This feels like Sean McVeigh sitting in his office being like, you know what? I'm going to. I'm going to give him, like, two more weeks, and then I'll give him a call.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Okay. So he's got time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's got a little more time. He's got a little.

[Hank]

Guys can't go to sports games.

[Big Cat]

I agree. That's what I'm saying. Sean McVeigh's going to give him a couple more weeks. Then he's like, all right, hey, OTAs are going to be here sooner than you think. Let's, you know, let's just get back in shape.

[PFT Commenter]

What would Luke Cornett think about this?

[Big Cat]

He'd be disgusted.

[Hank]

Scott.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At a hockey game. Going to a hockey game, say, about the NHL?

[Big Cat]

Think about the. What if he went to. What if he went to Detroit and he went to a Wings game? Gross. Luke Cornett can't be around Wins. Crazy. What we've heard are your cool throne,

[Matthew Tkachuk]

but my cool throne this week is

[Big Cat]

figure skating fans, okay?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Because Stars on Ice just dropped.

[Big Cat]

We had a great run watching all

[Matthew Tkachuk]

the figure skaters in the Olympics, and now we're. If you wanted to see them compete or kind of skate around, all the.

[Big Cat]

All the hitters are going to be there, okay? And there's like, several dates. Quad God there. Nope.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

National champion there.

[Big Cat]

Go there. I told this story on the act, but I felt a little bad about it. So our. Our good friend Nick Tranny got engaged and he had a little engagement party at a bar on Saturday. So I stopped by and KB was there with his fiance. And I was sitting there and KB was like, hey, my fiance had a question for you. And because she was like, you know, like, she likes sports. She was trying to bond over sports, and she was like, what did you think about the quad God and the figure skating? The Olympics? And I just went thumbs down. That was my response. So I. And I was like, after. I was like, that wasn't. That wasn't an appropriate response. That was. I was acting like an idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's appropriate.

[Big Cat]

But that's how I feel like I don't care about figure skating. We. We cleaned it up. We had a further conversation. But, yeah, I felt bad in the moment where I was like, how did. That's not normal life is not to react to someone's question with.

[PFT Commenter]

When it's Olympic figure skating and it's after the Olympics, I think it's. That's appropriate. Oh, yeah, no, listen, our brains. We changed the channel after the Olympics. It's like, let's move on.

[Big Cat]

Oh, she was asking if I cared during. And it's still.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, my. My brain. I. I don't. I don't regret the how I feel about it with the thumbs down fart sound. It's more. I should have probably preface it with, like, hey, I don't really care, then

[PFT Commenter]

hit her with the what Also seemed like you were trying to embrace debate, and I don't think she was ready for a debate. She was ready for a discussion. Yeah, Like a proactive, cheerful, like, positive discussion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Not banter. Now, Zach, I got a question for you. Back to overtime. Meg.

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

She's not the one that was hanging out with Ab before he went nuts.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Was it was she. No, that was falsely reported. They were trying to say that was overtime Meg. But it wasn't overtime Meg.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Because then I was gonna get back on board of like, yeah, Pooker should stop.

[Max]

Overtime Meg used to date Kyle from Nelk.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Max]

But then she called it. She caught him maybe. Maybe cheating in the background of a TikTok, and then they had a public break.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no. This is where I selectively turn off half my brain so that it's like I can't accidentally absorb any of this information.

[Max]

That was good.

[PFT Commenter]

That was good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I don't want. I don't want that to stick because I don't have enough. I don't have enough storage.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, that was correct.

[Big Cat]

You know when you have to delete. When you have to delete some, like, photos in your photo album to get the storage to download something? If I took that information and. And held on to it, I'd have to delete other things.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, about college basketball during football season.

[Big Cat]

It's not worth it.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, I have very limited storage. My brain right now that's gonna. That's in danger of pushing all my clavicular knowledge out, and I can't.

[Big Cat]

Can't have that. Cannot. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got two great interviews. We have the Tkachuk brothers and then Seth McCarthy Farland. And it's brought to you by our friends at Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters, every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game. The room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time. You stop checking the time. Suddenly small talk escalates to laughing so hard you can barely catch your breath. That's the Cuervo effect. A signal everybody understands. A moment that anyone can enjoy and a good time that just grows. All you have to do is keep it Cuervo with Jose Cuervo. So go get some Jose Cuervo. Today, we also brought to you by our friends at Morgan and Morgan. When a coach goes forward on fourth and two at midfield in the first quarter, that's a power move. Just like how hiring Morgan and Morgan is a power move. Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. You want to know what a power move is being? Kentucky Colonels power move.

[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

American heroes.

[Big Cat]

American heroes. They also have a podcast which everyone should go listen to. It comes out every Wednesday. It's called Wingman with Matthew and Brady Tkachuk Boys. Thank you for joining us. I think the first question is like, how, how does it feel? We're a week after does, do you still have the glow? Do you still have that feeling of. Because it was a moment that I think we can all agree having the entire country come together and just embrace you guys and no controversy whatsoever. It was awesome. Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Well, first of all, thanks for. Thanks for having us. If to answer your question about the glow, I've got some serious glow on me right now and I have since last Sunday. Like it's, it's at a kind of that all time high feeling that it doesn't matter what's going on in our days or whatever. Like, like, for example, like we're playing, we're playing in the island last night and I hear the national anthem and every time I hear the national anthem right now, it brings me back to having my arms around my brothers, listening to it, seeing our flag go up above Canada. Like it's just the little things that bring you back. It seems like every day there's some moments that just continue to bring me back to this amazing few week journey in Milan and just so lucky I could do it with Brady. And I'm not gonna lie, I've worn this pretty much daily.

[PFT Commenter]

Metal stays on.

[Big Cat]

I love that. Brady. You feel the same way?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah. Oh, I've got the McGregor strut going around Ottawa right now. So right at the rank this feeling pretty good about myself. But no, I Mean, it's just, it's still like. Feels like you're in a dream and, and somebody's got to wake you up. And I mean, the fact you're still wearing that. Matthew, your neck's got to be as strong as ever because that thing's heavy.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, it's like, it's like you doing the. I gotta start doing the neck warm ups that you did. Gu. I got a quick story to add about this. So Brady. So we were crying, laughing at Brady's warmups at the Olympics because nobody plays in Ottawa other than Sanderson. So we don't see like the, that he does. And he comes in for a warm up one day, his hands all taped up like he's about to go fight Rocky. He's wearing a sleeveless shirt that like, he cut himself and he's doing these like, neck stuff on the bench and guys are like, this is insane. So I think it was, I think

[Brady Tkachuk]

it was all hard.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, I think it was all part of the, all part of the culture that, that the characters on the team built. I mean, there were some insane characters on that team and I think that's what helped make us successful.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the more patriotic national anthem, the one after you guys won the gold medal where you see, you know, the flag up there right above Canada's, or the one that you guys sang at 11? Because that seems like I said that every strip club should play the national anthem, and I know that 11 is

[Big Cat]

not a strip club. Yeah, we had your back while we were on the show.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a nightclub with naked women. It's different.

[Big Cat]

We had a whole, like, we're like, we're like, listen, everyone's, who's, who's upset about this 11 thing. It's not a strip club. It's a club with strippers. It's a big difference.

[PFT Commenter]

I just love the idea of playing the national anthem before you see some tits. I think that every, every person should do that. So tell me, tell me about that moment and how wonderful that was.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Hey, all champions. It's all roads lead to 11. Yeah, we've done it the last few years. Indiana did it when they won, but I don't know, Brady, you could, you could answer. I gotta throw in another one though, because one was really special too. Was. Went to Elbow Room on Wednesday, the day I got back after the White House, and they sang it a few times there. And that was pretty patriotic too. So that's, that's a pretty good one, two, three. I, I don't know. Brady.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I don't know. That's.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I didn't really expect it at 11, so that. I think that caught me by surprise. But it was pretty cool looking around, seeing everybody singing it. We got the flags waving and. And, yeah, that was something I didn't expect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got a question about the actual game because it was so awesome. And, you know, we as sports fans, as Americans, we felt the glow, too. Like, I was walking around feeling like, you know, a little. Little extra something for a few days there. But the actual game was incredible. Game. Did you guys. Going into the game like, before the game did you know, you're like, hey, this is going to be a war? And it's also going to be probably one of like, the. The speed on the ice is going to be on another level. How are you, like, mentally preparing for that as you get ready to go on the ice against Canada?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, I mean, I think that we were preparing like it was going to be the 40 best players in the world on the ice at the same time, which it was like the. The talent on that ice was insane. The speed, the skill, the physicality. And what people don't realize in those types of games is with that much skill, like, it's never going to be a 5, 4, 6, 5 game. Like, it's always going to be a 1, nothing, 2, 1. Because the guys take so much more pride and not giving up a goal than actually going out there and scoring one. So we knew it was going to be tight. We didn't know we were going to need the best goaltending performance of all time, but we got it. And Brady, it's probably. That's actually a good reminder. We should probably send out our daily text to Helly. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so. So Helly, obviously, incredible performance. Is there a moment in early in the game where you knew he was locked in or maybe it was pre game where you're just like, oh, this is different. Because I think I realized it probably somewhere, you know, late because I'm. I'm not as, like, dialed in, but like somewhere in the second period, I was like, oh, this is like, this is him putting the team on the back here. Like he's gonna. He's gonna fucking do this.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I think some point in the second when everybody on the bench kept saying, this is their best. Let's just get back to our game. And then they just kept getting better and just kept shooting the punk and kept saving it. That I was like, okay, he's he's locked in back there. The breakaway, I think, with McDavid, was in the second and just kind of outweighed him and was super, like. That's what I noticed, just how calm and super patient he was. And to be patient against McDave, you have to be truly confident in yourself. So that was the moment there. And then we get into the third period, and those three grade A chances that don't know how they didn't score. I was on the ice for all three of them, so I was like, all right, well, this is meant to be. We're winning this game. Like, those three should be in the back of the net. They're not. I come back to the bench. All right, boys, here we go. There you go.

[Big Cat]

Somebody's.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Brady. How about Brady? How about him? Before overtime, too?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Like, he's like. Like, we're just going over, like, somebody's gonna be the hero. And then he's just like, look. He's like, is it gonna be. Is it five on five?

[Big Cat]

No way.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, no, it's three or three. He's like, all right.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Sweet. And I just carried on. Like, it was. I was, like, looking around. I'm like, oh, boy.

[Big Cat]

But that's. Oh, boy.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

It was a beauty.

[Big Cat]

That's a testament to how locked in he is. Like, the. Like, old stories of, like, Tom Brady taking naps before the super bowl, where it's, like, almost the guy who's. Who's, like, so calm. It's weird. Is usually the guy who's so locked in.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, I think he was like. I think he was, like, exactly what you want in a starting goalie, like, in the magnitude of that game. Because they did a great job of. Not really. Like, we knew how big of a game it was, but they did a great job of, like, controlling, like, how much we knew, like, people were watching. Like. And then we come back to the US and it's like a mad house, but, like, we knew it was big, but they kept it pretty calm. Ish. And then seeing heli and, like, seeing him on the bus and, like, he's taking naps, like, on the way to games on the bus. Like, just hanging in the. In the. In the bus. Like, it's just. It was crazy. It was exactly what you want from a starting goalie. And, I mean, obviously, we don't have this gold medals without him, so we're very lucky.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Thank you. Helly.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You mentioned the. The group chat. Do you guys still have the group chat going?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Oh, it's firing all day.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

It's still all day. Every day since. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love that. I love that. No, has anybody, like, added somebody from Canada to the group chat just to with them?

[Big Cat]

My bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Connor, didn't mean to put you on here.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, no, that. That hasn't happened yet. But I've. I knew this was like a special group when, like, just the times that we're having, but everybody after, there's like, this group chat's gonna stay alive for a very long time. So it's the amount of text that. It was just absolutely a gong show that, that we have going on, a bunch of inside jokes and shit like that that guys are still doing. And. And no, it's. I mean, I truly miss it. I miss the boys. I miss representing our country. It was such an unbelievable experience.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The. I was listening to. To your guys podcast Wingman with Wingman, which. Which comes out every Wednesday. And I was. It was funny because I was listening to it and I was like, these guys sound like guys who just went on the greatest bachelor party of all time and they also happen to win a gold medal at the end because, like, like hanging out with the boys. You guys are talking about it how, like, the camaraderie was there and it's got to be just like, it has to be something just totally different because in the NHL, you're traveling city to city and y' all are like moving around and everyone. You know, when you have home games, you're all staying at your own house. Did it feel like it was like. Like almost like summer camp or something when you guys were there?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

That's. That's so funny you say that because Ike's Jack Eichel actually said the exact same thing. Like, towards the end of it, he's like. I think he was shaking his head on the way to the airport that Monday morning. He's like, boys, that was the greatest three week bachelor party of my life. That is the best way to describe what just happened. What I think is so special about the whole experience and just like, how. What made it so great is everybody kind of crossed paths with each other at some point. Like, the USNTDP was huge. Youth hockey tournaments. I mean, some of my best friends were on that team that I grew up playing with. You know, just like, besides Brady, like the guys that in my hockey career I've played with the longest, like, on that team. So I think it just helps so much to like, the chemistry, like from the start, even from the start of four nations last Year was at an all time high and it just continued to carry it over here. And then we're staying in the village, which I really think was like our, I don't know, ace of spades. Like that was our like trump card on everything because. Because we spent every second with each other and had every meal with each other, team meals, playing cards every single night, hanging out, you know, with the women's team watching events or other athletes, speed skaters, figure skaters. So we just got to enjoy the whole experience and the camaraderie with the group. Like, I don't know if there will ever be a group that is that tight or that has that much history, you know, with. Throughout the whole, the whole squad. So I truly miss it too. And I'm honestly already looking forward to

[Brady Tkachuk]

this World cup in a few years.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Got to keep playing good so we could be on that team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, the energy that you guys were giving off was basically like someone turns to everyone on the last day being like, why don't we just fucking. Why don't we all leave our families and just like play in the Olympics forever? Like that one day at a bachelor party where everyone's like, this is sick.

[Brady Tkachuk]

We should.

[Big Cat]

We just get a place together. And then you're like, ah, probably can't do this every day of our lives, but it would be sick.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, that, that would be unbelievable. That conversation probably happened multiple times in Miami. We should just, we should just do it. Hey, let's just do it.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I think we, I think we have like literally five, like sets of dates planned this summer for reunion. Like, there's like a World cup soccer game. There's. Chelios is giving us his Malibu place. He said for the week, a weekend. We've got a golf trip and, and now everybody wants the first weekend of August locked in every summer for like the boys weekend. So we'll figure it out. But there's a lot of great ideas floating around right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I love that. Probably a lot of promises made under the influence. Like, yeah, next free agency, we're all, let's just all play together in the NHL. Let's just like do this for the rest of our lives, boys. It was, it was awesome to watch. And going back to last year with the four nations, we saw like as a start of it, we, as American hockey fans, we, we fell in love with this team in that match against Canada where we were out there chucking nuts from the get go and I. It seemed like you guys brought like an element of physicality to the team last year that I wanted to see in the Olympics, you weren't allowed to fight, though. Like, how did you get all that aggression out? How did you make the team become even that much tighter when you're not allowed to get in these line brawls?

[Brady Tkachuk]

I mean, that was definitely. I mean, such a great experience. Like, the four nations. Like, that was kind of realizing how impactful that was. But, I mean, I know for me, it. It almost gave you a free. Just run around and you don't really have to answer the bell. So it's like I'm just going there, try to. Try to put. You put. Put your toe caps touching the ceiling and. And then just kind of run around with knowing not to fight and knowing that. But I think it just showed, like, the way we played, just the way that we had each other's backs and just the unity and just how we were willing to do whatever it takes. I think everybody played that way. Everybody played super hard. And, I mean, there's a couple scrums where you just kind of have a free for all. But I know Matthew and I had a fun one in Slovakia that didn't turn into anything but some good pictures in the hallway after.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you tell me about the gold medals? How does the gold medal feel? Is it heavy?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

It's. It's heavier than people think, but it's. It's insane. Like, what it. It almost is. It almost rivals the Cup. Maybe not quite the cup, because the Stanley Cup's only one of them, but, like, I brought this. I actually brought this to the rink yesterday, to the Islanders, to the game against the Islanders. And my sister came with one of her. With her best friend, and we had to do a few things, like, behind the scenes with. With the metal, like, some pictures and showing some people with the Islanders organization. But I'm like, taren, like, I'll give it. I'll have somebody bring it up to you and you can wear it for the game. And even she said, like, the amount of people that are coming up just to take a picture, just see if they can, like, hold it or touch it. Like, it's. It's one of the most amazing things, like, ever, like, what it does to people. Like, people just freak out over it, and I mean, rightly so. It is the Olympics and it is a gold medal, but it's. It's just amaz. Amazing to see and kind of goes, like, back to what we were talking a little bit, you know, over the last week. It's just like the Support we've gotten has been incredible. Like, we almost felt like we were like America's team there for a bit, where everybody, whether they liked hockey or not, they were tuning in and they were cheering for us. So it just makes a whole. It makes everything so much more special just knowing the support we got.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Did you guys get the Olympic ring tattoos?

[Big Cat]

Need them.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to get those.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I know the boys are talking about

[Matthew Tkachuk]

it, so that was the 11 idea, too.

[Big Cat]

Boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone gets the Olympic tattoos. I feel like that's the next step. That's what you guys do on the boys trip this summer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't, I, I. The camaraderie sounds incredible. I don't, I don't mean to maybe cause a rift, but, like, are we a little. I mean, the Hughes brothers are kind of taking your guys Shine. Like, you guys were the brothers and now they're on snl. Maybe they're just the pretty boy brothers. Is that what we got to call them because they're on SNL and stuff?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Hey, they're the brothers that show up and score the big goals were the brothers that just cause absolute shenanigans. So they absolutely deserve everything that they're getting right now. I mean, Quinn. Nobody's talking. Like, Quinn had probably the biggest goal of the tournament versus Sweden.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Just to keep us alive. And, and of course, Jackie boy, just what, like, I mean, I just still go back to the goal of, like, how. And I don't know how if you felt this way, Matthew. I don't even know if we've ever, like, just how much our brain froze in that moment of like, yeah, holy. Like, did that go in and then like, I, I don't remember a single, like, the next five minutes.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, but, yeah, but it's just a pure. It's a pure, like, you just black out and you just hug. And the amount of I love you thrown out there, it's like, yeah. The most insane few minutes. And I think that. I think that Jack and Quinn, honest to God, are maybe at their positions, the best 3 on 3 player. I'll throw McDavid in there too, obviously. But, like, for a forward and for a defenseman, like, they have to be the two best in three on three, like in the NHL. So, like, I think that everyone talks about all the skill and all the talent on Canada in a three on three or a four on four situation. Like, we have just as much if not more in those situations. So we were very confident going into both overtimes that we are going to get it done. And those two are obviously going to be at the, at the forefront for it.

[Big Cat]

And I think one of the coolest things is like, you guys know, all of you pretty much know each other at some point through like youth hockey. Because I read this story that Brady, you lived with Quinn lived in your house when you were in high school. Right? And. And what was the story about him not liking your dad's packed lunch? Because that, that seemed like a crazy, like a 16 year old Quinn Hughes being like, I'm gonna stand up to Keith Tkachuk, like, that's a bad idea.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, yeah. He. I think the story was. Usually it was a couple days a week we'd like get food. Like my dad would go pick up like Chipotle or something like that. And. But I think this is the one day that we brought leftovers from the night before and just Quinn wanted no Chipotle instead. So he, he didn't eat the leftovers that my dad gave him and then went to practice once they came back and then realized he still had it, but he didn't want to be like disrespectful and like, be like, I didn't like it or didn't eat it. So he tossed the food like from the container out the window, like by the house. And then he just put it, put it back on, like with the utensil still, like the plastic utensils on, like still in its wrappings. Comes up like puts up the lunch box up there. Then my dad was like, how was lunch? And was like, oh, it was, it was really good. Like the leftovers are really good. And he was like, my dad was like, well, how'd you eat it if he didn't take the utensils out from the bag? And then I think he like doubled down again. And then finally he was like, he admitted that he needed to eat it.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I didn't eat it.

[Brady Tkachuk]

And then the next day, like, we're wait. It's like we're waiting for our lunch and then all of a sudden we see my dad's car pull around. Like this little like circle doesn't stop, rolls down the window, just throws our. Just a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for the both of us just on the ground. Like, I was like, all right, well, thanks quid. You effed. I love it.

[Big Cat]

I love it. But that's so cool that you guys like win a gold medal with guys that you've known for that long. It makes it probably extra special. I also saw like, speaking of extra special, the, the Picture was going around of you guys at the 2006, I want to say Olympics, which is pretty cool. Full circle. I gotta ask though, the. The first picture, the first thing I thought of was like, holy shit. Keith's got an absolute whopper in his lip there. What was it? Was it Copenhagen? What's he. What was he doing?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I think back then, he's often now. I think it was Copenhagen. Just long, long cut.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I think it was grizzly.

[Big Cat]

Just. It was such a dad. You don't want to with because it's like, you don't. You obviously, you know, he. You know, he's Keith Tkachuk. But if you just show someone that picture, it's two little kids and then a guy, a dad, which is a hammer in.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

You're like, oh, man, just what a dad of the year.

[Big Cat]

That's a guy who's throwing peanut butter and jelly at you. Yeah, yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Going. Going back quickly to Quinn and Jack. We have on top of, you know, the team chat that is flying 24 7. Or in another group chat that might buzz a little bit more. And that's me, Brady, Quinn and Jack. And it's called the Golden Brothers. And it's probably one of my favorite group chats of all time. And it's just a great way for us to like, literally, we're staying in touch. Just like we were at the Village and every single night. Village or sorry, every single night before game. Did we go after games too, Brady? I feel like we did both, actually.

[Brady Tkachuk]

We did it all after the loss.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, we would have a little hot stove in the Hughes's room. So they were the room. They were 302. We were 301. Right across the hall from each other. And those hot stoves were gonna miss forever. And honestly were like, some of the highlights of that tournament for us is just hanging out with them, shooting it, talking about nothing. And we did that pretty much every night. So the Golden Brothers chat is alive. It's well and it is buzzing.

[PFT Commenter]

That sounds incredible. It sounds like the best time ever. Matthew, I gotta ask you, do you think that Connor McDavid wants to kill you? Do you think that he sits up at night thinking about you? Are you his sleep paralysis demon? Does it have your name written on any lists that he just stares at all? Because it's like. It's like you can't get rid of you.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Every time he's. He's close, like, you show up and you're just like, hey, remember, I got you, man.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I don't say that. I mean, sometimes I definitely walk around with the chest out more than I should just because of the last couple years, but, I mean, if roles were reversed, I'd be pretty rattled. So maybe he. Maybe he hates me. Sure, he hates my teams more, but he's just such an incredible player that it's pretty crazy that, you know, he's been that close and hasn't got it. But eventually, when you're that close and, you know, playoffs, especially with the best of seven, eventually, someday, you know, you got to think he's going to get it done. So I. I can't stop thinking. You said sleep paralysis. I can't stop thinking Brady. Of some roommates with Brady. Not to change the subject. Away from it, but you just said that, and it triggered the story. And I know Brady thought about it immediately. Brady had a sleep paralysis night in the Village, and I was his roommate. I literally thought it was over. And Brady. Brady kept going, like, just tell doc I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna make it. And it was like after. After one of the games. It was just so funny. But, Grady, you can tell that I don't even remember.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, no, I remember. I mean, it ties into kind of everything. It ties into, like, we were in the Hughes's room, and. And then I came back. I was exhausted. But then, like, the lights were on because you were still wrapping up the conversation. Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna die right now. Like, I'm gonna fall asleep. So then I remember I sat in bed, the lights were on, and all of a sudden, like, felt my body just shut down. I was like, okay, but my mind was still going. And then you walk in the room and you're like, hey, what time are we waking up? Like, what do you.

[Big Cat]

What.

[Brady Tkachuk]

What time we wait? And I just, like, like, tried speaking. I tried, like, turning my head. Nothing. So I put all my might, do it.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I'm like, call doc.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I think I'm dying.

[Big Cat]

And then.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Then I could tell, like, he started freaking out. My head's still buzzing. Like, I'm still there, but, like, I can't move. And I said it again, and that's like, you seriously want me to call him? And I finally accepted in my head, I'm like, you know what? I can't keep fighting this anymore. I finally busted up all my strength. I just said, but if it's time, it's time.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

And I went back to bed.

[Brady Tkachuk]

So some boys on the team thought

[Matthew Tkachuk]

that was literally the funniest story of the tournament.

[Brady Tkachuk]

I slept great. I can't imagine Matthew slept too good.

[Big Cat]

By the way, Brady, we now that you guys are, you know, kind of in media, doing your own podcast. We have, you know, been doing this for a long time. We used to do a thing called PR101. I want to say you, you guys, you guys can always hit us up if you need help if you find yourself in a little controversy. Because listen, I know you weren't the one who said close the borders, but that was so easy. You should have just gone in front of the media in, in Canada and just been like, yeah, I said close the borders. Cause I don't want to go back home. I love Canada so much. You should. That was such a layup for you. Be like, yeah, I meant I love it here so much. I want them to never let me back into America.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, yeah. That was an eventful media session after. So I don't know if you guys saw that one, but yeah, yeah, I took it on the chin a couple times.

[Big Cat]

But that had to be. Was there like you guys talk about it like the, like the Sunday scary, so to speak, for the guys that had to go back to Canada and the guys that didn't because, like, it is probably a little different. You have to go face the media in Canada after you just rip their guts out. Whereas Matthew gets to hang out at the fucking Elbow Room and go back to 11.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, he's on a four day bender. I'm sitting there just under the microscope. And yeah, that was. I, I mean, me and Austin are in the same position, right? Like being captains of Canadian teams. And I remember we were Texan and he watched my media because he hadn't done it yet. So just been like, all right, man, like, this is what happened to me, so good luck with yours. But yeah, that was, that was an experience for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys ever, like, when you're, when you're dealing with that, with a media up in Canada, I feel like you guys should just be like, listen, I play hockey. I'm a hockey player. You're asking about like international relations right now. It's like, I play hockey. I won a gold medal. I had the time of my life. Like, if you're looking to me for any sort of like, political analysis of this situation, you are so far gone that it, that we're, we're off the planet right now.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, I mean, it's just, I always came back to like, just unfortunately we just achieved our childhood dream.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

It's like that's what we should be talking about.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, you know, you should have hit him with. You should have hit to. To quote Dana Beers, you should have hit him with the. That's baseball. Stop. Yeah, just one of the. You know, everyone. I bet you the Canadian media watch and subscribe to the Yug station just hit him with what? Quick. That's baseball. And they're like, oh, I get it. That makes sense.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Hey, Brady, I'm not using this as a recruiting tool because I don't want to get fined for whatever it's called, but we don't get asked those questions down in Florida. Just nice, easy questions. Just go about your business and just hang out. Play the game. That's baseball.

[Brady Tkachuk]

That's baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to Beers.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys. Did you guys end up loving the song Free Bird as much as we do?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Oh, yeah, we heard Free Bird courtesy Red, White and blue. Dream on in rotation, four in the US in a row. Born in the USA at 11. All night, every time. It just kept getting better.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

DJ job.

[Brady Tkachuk]

It just kept getting better for us. But I could only imagine people be like, all right, I've heard this song 15 times. Like, enough. But all like Free Bird. Like, I still listen to it every day. Like, I'm listening to all those tunes every day just to bring me back. So I will say it worked out.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I listen. I listen to two songs every single day. But now, like, not the whole day, but there's two videos that I watch pretty religiously every day. Right now. It's the Dream on video that our team sang in the locker room after. That's the video that I don't think anybody's seen. And we're gonna keep that.

[Big Cat]

That.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

We're going to keep that pretty tight because it's. I mean, it's just a legendary video. But the one video that I've watched a lot, that a lot of people have seen is J.T. miller singing courtesy of the Red, White and blue at 11 with no music in the background.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Majestic voice.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I think that is the funniest video ever. And I just. I think. I mean, he's a legend, too, so that was a hilarious time.

[Big Cat]

The. I was like, I said, when you guys did your podcast recap, I was laughing. Brady, you said that you and J.T. miller were sitting next to each other in a pregame when coach said what was the exact quote? Like, play with, play smart or something.

[Brady Tkachuk]

He's like, we're gonna have emotional control. Like, he did it, like, expecting to, like, go across the room Just stopped right at Milsy. Emotional control just kept hovering like, hey, Miley.

[Big Cat]

Was he talking about us? Couldn't tell.

[Brady Tkachuk]

That's the, every day, like something like that. Like even random like points and meetings, like we were just laughing about, about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. What was the, what was the pregame speech like before the gold medal game? Is that something that you guys have talked about? Like, I, I, I wish that there had been a camera in the locker room that I've seen to like really get the sense of, of what that moment was like. Was it heavy? Was it tense? Or was it like just, you know, free ball and loose?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I think it was, I mean, I think it was pretty emotional in the sense, like him talking about that. We're talking about Sully here. Just talking about the, like the support we have from home. He mentioned that Torts is Torts's son who's in the military. You know, all of them were watching. Just the millions at home that have reached out. And I just remember him always hitting like us with the American swagger. I mean, we're built different. This team. Use it like the whiskey drinkers. There's no milk drinkers. We're all whiskey drinkers. Which I still, I think he met more like the, just the crazy personalities we have and still try to figure

[Big Cat]

out what he said.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I'm assuming he means like we're just a bunch of animals that would just do everything possible to win and some serious, serious ultra competitors. And I just remember the American swagger. The American swagger and then his speech before overtime, just saying, guys, who's going to be this hero in here? Who's going to be the hero that everyone's going to talk about? And I remember him just mentioning, you know, before the game. Our lives have a chance to change forever after this game. And it just, all the emotions were, were hit. You know, the excited there was still nerves, but just the excitement after that speech, going out and play. I mean, I don't know if it was necessarily like the, the Herb Brooks miracle one that you, everyone sees in the movies, but it was, it was pretty close and it was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, boys, I got one last question. Rollback question. Rho B A C-K.com promo code take 20 off your first Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. Like I said, we got Matthew and Brady Chuck. Awesome interview. You guys have a great podcast. Go listen to it. Wingman with the two of them. You mentioned the miracle. Dave did say before the gold medal game, he's like, you're a loser if you watch Miracle. You know, leading into the gold medal game. Did anyone on the team pop it on during the week?

[Brady Tkachuk]

I think some guys watched a documentary, the one that just came out. And I know we watched it before we got there and that was unbelievable seeing the behind the scenes,

[Matthew Tkachuk]

wasn't it? Trojan Charlie, maybe?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah, didn't see it and they watched it and I think that got the juices flowing by watching documentary. But there's. There wasn't a watch party for anything. But I mean, and just we had Rizzo there the night before. Mike Ruzioni at dinner and he just, he talked about like how this is just for some guys, a once in a lifetime opportunity ahead of us. And he's sick and tired of being the last team in 1980, even though business is booming.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

That's what he said.

[Brady Tkachuk]

He's like, it's your guys time and it's our time to change the game in USA Hockey for future generations. Yeah, he got us fired up.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys don't have to name names, but as you go back to your teams, is there one person that hit up the group chat was like, boys, I am so hungover still. I know I have to play hockey tonight, but like, I don't know I'm going to be able to lace them up and get out there.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Oh, there's multiple.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I don't know if we're gonna name names, but I think the common thing that's being said in the group chat right now is I missed the good old days. That's a common. We kept, we kept saying that. We kept saying that line like obviously from the office, but we kept saying that all tournament, like, boys, these are the good old days. Like, and we would just laugh.

[Brady Tkachuk]

We had the countdown going. All right, boys, we have five more days of the good old days of it. Two hours. We have one hour.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you. Have you guys thought about maybe showing up 40 years from now? We're in the Olympics again and now you guys are the old guys giving the message, hey, you boys can do it. I believe in you.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah. I mean, hopefully. Hopefully it doesn't take another 46 for, for the United States to win. But you know, I think really all we're thinking about right now is like how great of an honor it was and hopefully we can plan a few more. The best on best. I mean, it's been a shame that this was all of our first time going. I think they, they completely missed out on a few opportunities with that. I think everybody, especially from the outside watching, like out best on best is how it should be. So hopefully we have a chance to compete in a few more and, you know, can win a few more. But I think we have talked about it like just the honor and what this meant for USA Hockey that they'll be talking about our team for, for generations. So I'm sure in 40, 50 years, they'll, they'll, they'll love for us to, to come talk to that, that group of players. But it really was a life changing tournament, a life changing game, a life changing gold medal. And we're just so honored to represent the greatest country in the world. And with that group of guys that made it that much better.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I, I forgot I have one last, last question. Cause I have to ask is people. We really final? Yeah, final. Really? People really pissed if we don't. They'd be like, oh, you're, you know, softballs, all this. Do you guys want to apologize for winning on 3? On 3? Because there was a lot of Canadians who were very upset about that. Would you like to apologize for having it be three on three and winning the gold medal that way?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Listen, they, that, listen, they won four on four in 2010. Nobody was complaining.

[Big Cat]

Good point.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, good point.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

They had it. They, they have Makar, McDavid, McKinnon out there. I'm sure they would have taken that at the beginning. I'm sure they were so confident going in.

[Big Cat]

You got to do. Listen, I'm going to give you the PR101 again. What you got to do is anytime there's something that you can't actually change yourself, you got to say that if you could, you would change it. So right after we won, when I saw the Canadians crying, I was like, hey, just a heads up. If I could go and change it to five on five, I would. Unfortunately, I'm just a guy sitting on my couch right now, so there's nothing I could do. But just so you know, I'm would. That's winning with class. So anytime that happens, you guys should just be like, yeah, listen, we would change it if we could, but we can't.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah, that's almost like adding fuel to the fire.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Of course they know you're messing with them. That's something Brady and I would do.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

I don't know. I don't know. I think they, I think they hit it. I think they hit it pretty good. Whole tournament was crazy. It's just, it's so different though. Like, I don't know, like Brady, what you think, like, especially after playing playoffs last year, like, like the, the difference between that and a best of seven is just like night and day. Like, it's just such a different type of game, different type of tournament. They're all game seven. So I really enjoyed it though. It was a blast. I. I'm really looking forward to the next best on best.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So are we.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you guys. It was so much fun to watch you guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was. It was. It was such a blast. And, and Brady, when you're in Chicago at the end of March, you got to come by again. Again.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

If we're there, I'm there. I had a lot of fun last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you guys are the best. Thank you everyone. Go listen to wingmen and hopefully we see you guys soon.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is the creator of Family Guy Ted 2, which is out on March 5th on Peacock Ted Season 2. Excuse me. Out on Peacock March 5th. And he's created a bunch of stuff that we absolutely love at Seth McFarland. Seth, thank you for joining us. What number interview are we today?

[Seth MacFarlane]

You're like, like 39.5.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay. All right. Because I was gonna say last point five.

[Seth MacFarlane]

The last one didn't go so well. I walked out or he walked out. One of us walked out. It was just a catastrophe. But now we're moving on to pardon my take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Seth MacFarlane]

And it's a chance to reset.

[PFT Commenter]

I.

[Big Cat]

Because we've been doing this a very long time and we could tell when it's one of the junkets where you're just going down the line. Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

When did. When did you begin? When was the first. Pardon my take?

[PFT Commenter]

10 years ago.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Take pilot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, 10 years ago. We've been doing it for 10 years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty much today. Yeah. Almost 2016 on Leap Day. So we're not really sure how. How old that makes us because it came out February 29th.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Every day on a weekday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Wednesday, Friday.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's a nice schedule.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Cause people, I mean, we're. We're pretty dumb, so people don't want to hear us that much.

[Seth MacFarlane]

You know what? Join the club.

[PFT Commenter]

So this will be perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so you're on like the. You Know, hour, whatever, of doing all these interviews. What's the dumbest question you've gotten so far? So I don't ask the same question?

[Seth MacFarlane]

The dumbest question I've gotten so far. Where you, where are you guys broadcasting from?

[Big Cat]

Chicago.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Chicago. The dumbest question I've got is, what's the capital of Chicago?

[Big Cat]

Okay, the bean. Okay.

[Seth MacFarlane]

And I said, my God, guys, Chicago's a city.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Okay, Chicago is the capital of, of Wisconsin.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got a, A pretty. I've got a dumb question, but I think you might have a smarter answer than the question is, because I've always wondered, when it comes to animated shows like you've created throughout the years, how you come up with the rules for who can hear who and what characters can hear other characters and understand them, but then some characters, they can talk and we can understand them, but the other people can't. How do you come up with those rules? And is it, is that a fun part of the job?

[Seth MacFarlane]

No, it's not fun at all, because there's always a situation where you want the person for whom you've established a rule to be able to hear somebody who they cannot hear, and then the rules forbid that. It kind of evolved. Initially, nobody could really understand Stewie. And then we were like, okay, Chris can understand Stewie and Brian can understand Stewie. And that was.

[PFT Commenter]

We gave ourselves a little bit of

[Seth MacFarlane]

leeway in that regard. I'm not huge on the. I tend to subscribe to the Muppets philosophy that, like, look, it's a frog, it's a pig, it's a bear, it's a gonzo. Everybody can understand them. This is the world you live in, and just kind of go with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah. I had a question about Family Guy because we're of the age. We're, we're both 41, so we were in that sweet spot where I, I distinctly remember almost feeling like it was illegal getting the DVDs of Family Guy after you'd gotten canceled. Be like, you got to check this out. You got to see this stuff. You got to get the good stuff stuff, and then having it come back. How did it, how did that go down where they were like, hey, our bad. Because that doesn't really happen in, in show business. In, in, in that industry where something gets canceled and then gets brought back. It's like, hey, we kind of screwed this up because it's actually a really good show.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah,

[Seth MacFarlane]

I, I, I, I don't know that there's any precedent or, or whatever you call The. The. The thing after. The precedent for that. I think Family Guy is sort of. It's a unique case. I was so young when that happened that I was. It just seemed normal to me. It's like, oh, I guess this happens all the time. Shows get canceled and they go away and then they come back. I was under a deal with Fox, with 20th the whole time, so there was never a point where I was out on the street. And right before that deal ended, they said, listen, this thing is doing very well on dvd. That's how long ago it was.

[Hank]

We're.

[Big Cat]

We're.

[Seth MacFarlane]

We want to kind of sneak it back into production, was the way they put it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

And. And here we are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Many, many years later, and you're. Now you have all these, you know, other project. I almost said side project, but do you feel that way where it's like Ted. You know, movies. And now it's the show that season two is coming out. But is it like, hey, the main thing was always Family Guy, and I get the. I'm lucky enough to be able to do all these other things. Or how does that. How does that kind of work in your brain?

[Seth MacFarlane]

100% exactly like you just described it? Yeah, it's. It's like Family Guy really is. It remains the mothership that allows me to experiment and to try things. You know, there would be no Orville if Family Guy hadn't allowed it. Family Guy, it is the. It's the safety net that allows me the luxury of Up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is great to have, like, you get to really experiment with it.

[Seth MacFarlane]

It is. It's a gift.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you. Do you find yourself ever, like, saving stuff? You're like, man, that's a. That's a really good joke. I just wrote. I don't know if I want to use it on, like, a new series that I'm not sure if it's gonna. Are you, like, maybe that's the best time to use it?

[Big Cat]

It.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Not.

[PFT Commenter]

Not especially.

[Seth MacFarlane]

The only thing that I. That I keep in my. In my quiver is the Family Guy movie.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's the one thing that, like, if things ever get so bad that I really need this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's going to be there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I have a question about your music. I. The idea that you were able to, like, revive Frank Sinatra for a lack of better terms.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Term.

[Big Cat]

And all the music that had sat and waited and that he wasn't able to make before he died. Can you explain that process? Because it is so awesome for people who don't know. You made an album. It is you. You were basically like, not given, but you were. You worked with Frank Sinatra Jr. You're able to access all of. All of his, like, old files and everything. All his old music. That's so cool. How did that all, like, transpire?

[Seth MacFarlane]

You know, that was. I mean, Frank Sinatra Jr. Did several episodes of Family Guy and he became a great friend to the show. And when he passed away, the stewardship of all of the orchestrations, all of the charts that Frank Sinatra had in his library fell to his Frank Jr. Sister Tina. And she called me and she said, would you want to. To acquire these things? And I said, hell yeah. And this is like 1200 boxes worth of stuff. And most of it is things you've heard. And some of it are fragments of television recordings from the 50s and 60s and 70s that are 30 seconds long. But a very small part of that library consisted of songs and arrangements that he never recorded that were right in that sweet spot. There was a song that was cut from the Come Fly With Me album that was in there. There was a song that was cut from the Only the Lonely album, which, if you're a Sinatra fanatic, is probably his greatest ballad album. With the exception of We Small Hours. Don't Me. There was a treasure trove of about maybe 60 songs that were. You know, it's like, if you're a Beatles fan, it's like when, when, when they wrote Revolver, there was a song and they cut from the album and here it is.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

It's that equivalent. So, yeah, to re record. To record those songs that had never been touched was. Was a gift. And we, I mean, we were very serious about it. We brought in a combination of musicians from London and a combination of musicians from LA and recorded at Skywalker Ranch at their studio up there, which is one of the best studios in the country. And really, you know, treated it with a. With an awareness of what it was that we had and, and, yeah, and that became Lush Life, the album that we put out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, kind of a lot of pressure to be recording Sinatra songs too. Like, I imagine that you were very critical of your own performances, wanted to get everything perfectly because they were, you know, Sinatra songs that you were breathing new life into.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, yeah, that, that's, that's. That's. I mean, I'm. I'm from Connecticut, so self criticism kind of comes with the, with, with, you know, was with me from birth. Like you're conditioned to think that nothing you do is good enough. And so that pushes you harder and harder and harder. So that. That all worked out pretty well.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You seem like a. Like a very busy guy. You've got so many projects, and ideally, if you start a new project, it will be successful and you'll work on that. But then you are also, like, you've got that creative side to your brain where you want to come up with something new, and at some point your plate gets totally full and you're like, how can I. How can I even find the time to come up with a brand new idea with all these series being successful that you're working on? Like, do you have any free time right now or is it all dedicated to. To figuring out either the. The next thing or just keeping all the plates spinning?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Gentlemen, there's a little number I tossed up recently in the Caribbean.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't it all be nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dog? It's well to have a stiffy, it's divine. To earth, from the tiniest little tiger to the world's biggest.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so sorry, guys.

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah,

[PFT Commenter]

what was.

[Seth MacFarlane]

What was the question?

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[PFT Commenter]

What was that music about? We were listening to Penis, the music musical.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's Monty Python's the Meaning of Life.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You had that just on. You have a soundboard that you're sitting on.

[Seth MacFarlane]

No, no, that's somebody calling me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

That's your ringtone.

[Big Cat]

I was like. I was like, is he. That was his answer to the question about, like. Because it kind of fits. The Meaning of Life.

[Seth MacFarlane]

If I had planned that, I couldn't have planned that more perfectly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I was like, this guy is so sharp. Harp. Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

I was gonna ask you what your favorite Monty Python song was.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Go ahead, ask me a question one more time so I can answer.

[PFT Commenter]

Responsible. Yeah. What is your favorite song about? Penises.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I mean, it's. It's the penis song from Monty Python the Life.

[Big Cat]

Good answer. Good answer.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know that there are that

[Seth MacFarlane]

many songs about penises.

[PFT Commenter]

My Dingling by Chuck Berry comes to mind.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's true. My ding.

[PFT Commenter]

A linguist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a good one. The penis song. Detachable penis. God.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Well, I guess there are a lot, aren't there?

[PFT Commenter]

There's a few songs about dicks. Yeah, no, it's been. Everyone's got one. All right, not everyone, but we've had dicks for forever.

[Big Cat]

Like, half the people do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, we have.

[Seth MacFarlane]

We have for a long time.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very true.

[Seth MacFarlane]

A Long time.

[PFT Commenter]

I see you're, you're a student of history as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

And since the first primordial organism crawled out of the ooze, we have had dicks.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you, have you thought about doing a Black Mirror episode?

[Seth MacFarlane]

What do you mean doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I don't know, what do you, what would you like to do with a Black Mirror episode? Like, writing, acting, producing.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I don't know, man. I. I've met Charlie Brooker on two occasions and he's, he's an awesome guy. Look, I'll do. I mean, Black Mirror. I'm a huge fan. Of course. I'm a huge fan. I would, I would, I would be willing to entertain any kind of offer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Are you ready for the dumb question that you probably have gotten from anyone else today?

[Seth MacFarlane]

The best part of the day? Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Animation. How?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Animation?

[PFT Commenter]

How?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, how, how do you do it? I don't get it.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Very, very slowly.

[Big Cat]

Was it very, very. Has it gotten easier? Obviously with technology and everything, but like, how, how, how long does it take to do like an animated show?

[Seth MacFarlane]

It has not gotten. I mean, if you're, if you, if you're into CGI animation, it's gotten easier. But I bet even then it has, certainly with something like ted. Yeah. Do you have to draw each in between and then ink each in between? No, but no, animation itself has not gotten any easier. It still requires the human brain to make a judgment call every few frames with regard to what's right for the moment.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so how long does it take to do an episode, like a 22 minute episode of an animated show? Because I.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

I think that's one of those things we just are like, oh, yeah, of course, the animated show, that takes a lot of work.

[Seth MacFarlane]

It takes about 10 months to a year to do each episode of an animated show for tv.

[Big Cat]

Jesus, that's, that's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot longer than I, than I would have thought that it would have taken. Like after you design the characters and you've got. I guess it's not as simple as, like you've already got them built so you can just make them move around. You have to, actually, because if you're,

[Seth MacFarlane]

if you're an actor and you go like this, then you do that and that's it. And camera captures it and you're done. If you're an animator, is it. What's the tone of the scene? Is it I'm pleading with you like this or I'm dismissive? Those are two different things. And each of those versions has to be timed out on what's called an exposure sheet. And that tells the animators, like, it tells them how many frames from here to here is this, you know, 48 frames or is this 12 frames?

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. I never would have get animators need more credit. There we go. That's the big.

[Seth MacFarlane]

They most certainly do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

By the way, let's get animation directors into the dga. How about that? That's a good start.

[PFT Commenter]

I like it. Yes. I'm on board. What's the dj?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're gonna have to explain the DGA first.

[Seth MacFarlane]

But we're on board.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, it's been.

[Big Cat]

It's been too far.

[PFT Commenter]

They've been left out for too long.

[Big Cat]

The fact they're not in the DGA is absolute.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the digital.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yes, The Director's Guild of America.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah. Animation directors belong.

[Hank]

It's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I will tell you, having directed live action and having directed animation, I don't want to get any haters here, but it is. It is a lot harder to do the second one.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so who can we, like, tweet at? Can we just yell at anyone?

[Brady Tkachuk]

Can we just.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Someone listen, you're on. Pardon my take. You can yell at any of your mics.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

But is there somebody.

[Big Cat]

Is there a specific, like, person? Who's the enemy, dude?

[PFT Commenter]

Who's the op right now?

[Seth MacFarlane]

You know what? Yell it at. Yell it at Victor Garber, okay?

[PFT Commenter]

Victor Garber. I want you to listen to me. Victor Garber.

[Big Cat]

All my homies.

[PFT Commenter]

You know goddamn good and well that. That animators should be including the dga. And it's. You're a crook for not doing it. It disgusting. What you're doing is. Is you're taking money and respect out of people's pockets. There's no hon honor in that. Garber.

[Big Cat]

Victor Garber.

[PFT Commenter]

Mr. Garber. And I use that term loosely. Oh, it's.

[Seth MacFarlane]

No, it is. It is, Mr. By the way, it's Sir Victor Garber. Did you know that?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so now you've made it an enemy of a knight now. Now I'm beefing with a knight. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I feel like we're yelling at the wrong guy. The guy in the Titanic. Yeah, you set us up. By the way. By the way. You've just described.

[Seth MacFarlane]

You've just described America from time immemorial.

[Hank]

Royal.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I feel like we're yelling at the wrong guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah. I feel like. I'm just. Sometimes I'm just like Wait, this isn't the guy.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't take anybody back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we don't take any.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the piece of that didn't put the lifeboats on?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's the. I think he was the captain in Titanic.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the captain.

[Seth MacFarlane]

By the way, good for you.

[Big Cat]

Good for you.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's the guy. That's the guy who, you know, who said. Who said within an hour, within two hours, maybe one Titanic will found the.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I always thought there should have been one guy in that scene who would have been like, does that. Is that bad?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Is that good or bad?

[PFT Commenter]

Founder.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Is that like, you know, it means sink.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Titanic will sink. Okay, got it. Great. All right, so we're in trouble.

[Big Cat]

All right, so. So then. So we know now. Animated. How. How long does it make, like, for. For Ted season two, by the way, out March 5th on Peacock. How long does it make to that make. How long does it take to make that season? Season?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Like, you probably just introduced Peacock to a whole bunch of people.

[Big Cat]

I did, yeah. Yeah. The cock. We call it the cock. Just so you know. We call it the cock. We've always called the cock.

[Hank]

Right, right.

[Seth MacFarlane]

They pay us in coin.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't believe that.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Isn't that. Isn't that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

There's not much we can do with it, but it, you know, their hearts are in the right place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

They have Netflix and Chill. We have Peacock and.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like that. I like that. All right, so how long does it take, though, to make a season? Like, what's the process?

[Seth MacFarlane]

All in about a year.

[Big Cat]

Year. Geez, man, you're busy.

[Seth MacFarlane]

It takes. It takes. It takes. We finished photography on this season, January of 2024.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

And sorry, sorry.

[Seth MacFarlane]

2025.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How much time do you spend going back and, like, back to kind of a little bit about animating the shows in general, but when you get the voice actor lined up, the guy that. Or the girl that you like to. To voice this character, do you ever go back and change anything physically about the character you had in mind because you think you're. So this. This voice that this actor is doing is a little bit different than what I had originally envisioned. Or how does that process work, lining them up?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Do you mean for. For a show like Ted or an animated show?

[PFT Commenter]

I guess maybe more so for an animated show? Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

No animated show, you can change anything at almost any time if you have it in your budget. Like, if. If you're not happy with a voice, if you're not happy with A, you know, a gesture or, or something that exists in the animation that is wrong for the moment. Yeah. You can change anything you want. It's very malleable.

[PFT Commenter]

Has there been an example of somebody that came in, read for a character that did it in a way that you didn't think was going to fit, and they changed your mind about how you saw that character?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, yeah, I'd have to. Oh, you guys in your podcasts. Yeah. Who? Tell me who. Who up so badly that you want to out them on. Pardon my take.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm not saying, like, I'm saying somebody that impressed you.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that impressed me the other way. Yeah, that. That made you be like, hey, this person did it really well.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I mean, I never would have saw. I never would have seen Giovanni Rabisi as the bad guy in ted, and yet he kind of. Of blew me away with his performance. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, you know, strangely.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Seth MacFarlane]

There are people who've come in. I mean, look, Mark Wahlberg is a great example. Mark Wahlberg in the TED animated series guy's never, to my knowledge, done animation voiceover in his life and came in and just crushed it. So, yeah, it does happen. And we had no idea. It's like, look, this guy's great on camera. He was great in his head. He's great in tattoo. He's great in the 80 million movies that he's done. Can he do animation voiceover? And he knocked it out of the park. And that show comes out, I guess, later this year or early 2027, I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So knowing how creative you are and the insane amount of work you've done and things you produce, are you able to turn your brain off? Because I feel like a brain like that, you're just. Is it always going. You're always thinking of new things?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, it's the worst at night.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah. Sleep is. It's the trade off. You wake up at three in the morning every night and getting back to sleep is very difficult. Yeah. It's tough to shut the brain off. It'd be nice to. That's what Xanax is for.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, who would care?

[Big Cat]

Killer. Yeah.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because it's also like, I was reading about it, like, you, you know, you started writing a comic strip at 9 years old.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Like, it.

[Big Cat]

It's. I'm always fascinated by people who know exactly what they want to be their entire life and then have it work out. It doesn't really usually, you know, I wanted to be a firefighter or an Astronaut when I was nine years old.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Big Cat]

But. But. So this was kind of always the plan. Is it. Was there ever a moment where you deviated off that you're like, no, this is. This is how my brain's wired. This is what I'm gonna do. Do.

[Seth MacFarlane]

There was a brief moment when I got done with. I mean, I was an animation major in college at the Rhode Island School of Design. There was a brief moment where I had applied to the Boston Conservatory of Music for their musical theater program and had been accepted and was all set to go. And then I got a job offer from Hanna Barbera, which was. Is now Cartoon Network, and took it. That was sort of a crossroads where I was like, you know, I love this stuff, but I'm going to have a chance to do all of this if I take this offer from la. So, yeah, I mean, it's. Animation is interesting because it encompasses so many different disciplines. It's acting, it's writing, it's music, it's visual arts. It's kind of the one medium where you kind of get to work every muscle that you might possibly want to work when it comes to entertainment. So I did land in the right place.

[PFT Commenter]

Who were your biggest influences? Like the favorite cartoonists or your favorite comic strips growing up?

[Seth MacFarlane]

I mean, I loved, I mean, like, hands down, Gary Larson, the Far side. Hands down, like, without question. I mean, you know, like, when I was really, really young, you know, strips like Garfield and, you know, Charles Schulz did Peanuts and all that, you know, I mean, I read the funnies every weekend, but Gary Larson was where I really kind of perked up and was

[Hank]

like, oh,

[Seth MacFarlane]

this is more my speed. And yeah, there's a lot of his influence in Family Guy, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I always thought that him almost being able to tell a story in one single panel was a very underrated thing that most cartoonists couldn't do.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a while back we had pitched the idea to, you know, Gary Larson and his estate of doing a Far side series where we would take a panel and reverse engineer it from past and future into a half hour kind of mini play. It wasn't like entirely. They didn't quite see it in the moment, but that's probably something we should pitch again because it's like, when I think back to so many of those panels, it was, yeah, as you say, there's so much of a story there that is implied that you don't see

[PFT Commenter]

try to make cow tools into 35 minutes.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Cow tools.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

So you stretch that Out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Cow Tools.

[Seth MacFarlane]

By the way, the one panel that he had to write letters explaining what that was, Cow Tools was the most misunderstood Far side panel ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do you, do you still get letters, like, handwritten letters from people that are upset with something that you put on tv?

[Seth MacFarlane]

I don't get handwritten letters. I don't really get, you know, it's funny. I don't get a whole lot of hate at this point. Maybe I've just inspired that by saying that. But no, it's, you know, at this stage, it's. There was a point where broadcast standards at Fox would send us an occasional letter just for laughs, but it's been a while since I've seen a handwritten letter that has been filled with vitriol about a specific Family Guy gag or Ted gag.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was there one in particular? Like, thinking back to when the show first came out, Family Guy, I'm speaking about, like, one joke or one thing. Thing that irritated the most people for no good reason.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I don't remember. I do remember seeing a social media post at one point that said, look, you've made fun of mentally disabled people, you've made fun of the races, you've made fun of this. That. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A long list. But autism is where I draw the line. That was the message. And it was, was.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, that's the one.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That's the one that sticks in my head. But, you know, so, look, everybody has their, you know, button.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, everyone has their. But also social media is like the. I mean, no one was built for having that many opinions thrown at you all the time.

[Seth MacFarlane]

We were, as a species, we were. We. We are not equipped to handle. We, We. We shouldn't be talking to each other

[Matthew Tkachuk]

as much as we do.

[Big Cat]

Correct, Correct. And just having like, hey, here's a thought, and then everyone responding to it immediately, that's just not natural. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Humans have not.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Wasn't that wasn' some sociologists that reminded us recently that we, we are as a species, our brains are equipped to handle like 300 people.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Seth MacFarlane]

In our immediate circle. Anything beyond that, we just can't.

[PFT Commenter]

We can't process.

[Brady Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I've always said there's something that's. That's got to be super unhealthy about having, like, the ability for a million people to tell you that you suck at once. I don't think that's. That's not a good thing for, for, for our own brain cells deal with. No, but you're right.

[Big Cat]

Xanax does it does it. Does it ever get annoying when people ask you to do voices on command?

[Seth MacFarlane]

Is this a preamble to you doing just that?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Pardon my take. Pardon my take.

[PFT Commenter]

What is it exactly that you want me to pardon? What is it that you're setting up

[Seth MacFarlane]

that's so bloody offensive? Because right now you've been relatively annoying, innocuous. There's nothing you've said that I couldn't see on. On, you know, the Jay Leno Show.

[PFT Commenter]

Pardon my take.

[Seth MacFarlane]

You know what? Pardon my indifference. Pardon my indifference for the.

[PFT Commenter]

For the.

[Seth MacFarlane]

For the blandness of what you have thrown my way thus far.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, shock me.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Shock me.

[PFT Commenter]

Make me feel something. That was wonderful. I do have a question.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I was gonna say, what did Peter Griffin think about Bad Bunny, his halftime performance?

[PFT Commenter]

Bad Bunny.

[Big Cat]

Bad Bunny. I had had so many beers.

[PFT Commenter]

What was that like?

[Big Cat]

Like, what.

[PFT Commenter]

What am I on the east fucking coast?

[Big Cat]

Let me tell you how many meister

[Seth MacFarlane]

brows that was my dad used to drink. How many meister brows I had had

[Big Cat]

by the time Bad Bunny came on.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't they start with the fucking halftime show?

[Big Cat]

Cause I'm dead. I'm asleep by the time they get to the. You know, I'm done.

[Seth MacFarlane]

I'm out. I'm unconscious.

[Big Cat]

Somebody has to drag me up to bed by my feet. Oh, thank you. That was. That was great. And I. I apologize that I had to ask it that way, where I pretended that I was cooler than everyone else, and then I was like, no, I'm actually just as much of a loser as everyone else.

[Seth MacFarlane]

We all are.

[Big Cat]

We.

[Seth MacFarlane]

We're all trying to pretend that we're, you know, look.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You ready for another terrible question? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Have this be. I know you have to run, so I'll tee up the robot question. Then you can. You can end a. PFT robot question. Rho, B, A C, K dot com. Promo code. Take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. And go watch Ted season two on Peacock starting March 5th. It's out on March 5th.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. So, terrible question that went so fast.

[Seth MacFarlane]

What shorts am I supposed to buy?

[PFT Commenter]

You can buy the hook. The hoodies, the joggers, the shorts. Roback.com.

[Big Cat]

yeah. Promo code.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Rollback.

[Big Cat]

Rollback. RHK.com.

[Seth MacFarlane]

what?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you heard me. R, H, O, B, A, C, K dot.

[PFT Commenter]

You're pretending you don't know, but you're probably.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you probably have a full of robots. We know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Like.

[Big Cat]

Like the Greek letter row.

[Seth MacFarlane]

R, H, O. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. I've seen your. Get ready with me, Tik Tok.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you got it. Look at you now.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

You just gotta say.

[Big Cat]

You gotta say promo code, take at the end. I say what you have. Promo code. Take, take.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Promo code, tank.

[Big Cat]

Take, take. You just. That was. We just got like a million dollar worth of ads. We're just gonna. We're gonna put that together, we're gonna slice it and we'll be like, hey, Roback, we got Seth McFarland do an ad for you. It's gonna be like scrolling on Instagram and you're gonna see that.

[Seth MacFarlane]

That'll be like the promo version of like a ransom letter is what you're gonna splice together.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly.

[Hank]

The mic.

[Big Cat]

All right, so last question.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, yeah, last stupid question. When did you find out that there was a bunch of horny guys online that wanted to Lois?

[Big Cat]

Wow, good question.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Just now.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you didn't know until now?

[Seth MacFarlane]

I mean, I guess. I guess what I would say is like, picture the guy, you know, who's been there all day at his slanted desk with his lightboard drawing each frame of Lois. Probably hasn't been out in the sun

[Hank]

in a while,

[Seth MacFarlane]

you know, Picture me. Picture me, guys. If you're hot for Lois, picture me sitting there drawing Lois. That's really who you're jerking off to?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it. Good, That's a good message.

[Big Cat]

Seth, you're the man. We really appreciate your time. And everyone go watch Ted Season 2, March 5th on Peacock. Thank you.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Pardon my take.

[Big Cat]

Appreciate it. Seth.

[PFT Commenter]

Seth, have fun, man.

[Big Cat]

Thanks so much, man. All right, see you.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

We got a residual 10 year anniversary takes from the awl so so we wanted to hear from them. Hank

[Hank]

10 years of PMT.

[Big Cat]

Oh Hank just saluted us.

[PFT Commenter]

That was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. That is saluting us.

[PFT Commenter]

How do you sir, appreciate that.

[Hank]

I started listening to PMT to listen to Big Cat ran about The Bears in 2017 after the Trubisky draft I was 14 years old. Started listening weekly for NFL recaps. Slowly became every episode. I've been listening throughout high school and college and now today I'm 22. Will be 23 on Sunday and I just realized how the show has been there for what feels like my whole week life Love you guys. You've inspired my buddies and I had to post on social media and record our own clips takes just for fun.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[Hank]

So life has come full circle.

[Big Cat]

I love that's incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very cool.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's scary as well because it's like a mind molded by our stupidity.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm curious to know what your take on Mitch was after the draft.

[Big Cat]

I forget that I think I was in because I I like no choice but to be. Well, I liked it. No, I liked him in college. I did. Did there was that one game, the Georgia game. Remember the first week of the season when we bet on UNC because Caleb told us to and then he threw it out of bounds on fourth down to end the game. Hank, do you remember that? So I was out on him for that. But I liked him. Yeah, I love.

[Hank]

I love Mitch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I yeah, I was in on Mitch the but yeah. 14 man. Thank you so much, dude. Appreciate you listening. That's. That's incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just. Yeah, I'm. I'm humbled to know that there's. There's kids out there that have taken up the take game.

[Big Cat]

I think that should be our.

[PFT Commenter]

I want. I want the next generation to have takes that would make me myself and die. I want. I want the next generation to be better. It's like, you know how you see like Kareem passing the torch to LeBron? I want all of our stupidity records to be shattered.

[Big Cat]

I. I want someday like a goal for this podcast. Our final boss should be some detailed, researched article that is like the effect of. Pardon my take on sports fans. Like a negative thing. Like why. Why has there been a sudden rise in people screaming shoot the puck at NHL games? It's like. Well, we can trace it back to all these kids that were listening when they were 12 and now they're idiots as grown adults and they're going to games. They're saying that the. Like what? What? Max?

[Max]

We don't talk about the NHL.

[Big Cat]

We say shoot the puck.

[Max]

We don't talk about the NHL enough for that.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the shoot the puck guys were doing okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

On their own before. So I think we've. We've boosted them o. That they matter.

[Big Cat]

Why. Why did this. Why did this NBA player. Is this NBA player having a mental breakdown? Because there's no other way to explain his attempt to dunk from the free throw line during a free throw.

[PFT Commenter]

Giannis.

[Big Cat]

And they're like. Actually, they. There is a reason he was 9 years old when he listened to PFT and Big Cat. Have an actual debate about this for far too long.

[Hank]

That place.

[Big Cat]

I want that.

[Hank]

I started out listening to the show with a long term girlfriend who I ended up getting married to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Nice.

[Hank]

Currently going through a divorce with that guy and re entering dating.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

But hey, at least I got to listen to you idiots three times a week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe guys on chicks gave him some bad advice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Or good advice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe get.

[Big Cat]

Maybe if you hate her good advice.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? This is for the best.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's for the.

[PFT Commenter]

You got married too young. There's a little guy that we know that got off to a bad start in a relationship where it wasn't a great fit and he just won the super bowl with the Seattle Seahawks. Okay, so you're just the Sam Darnold of. Of podcast list.

[Big Cat]

Very well put.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't get mono.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, sorry that happened. If you're, if there's any chance that you're going to get back with her and if there is no chance, like, dude, you're way better off.

[Hank]

My first listen was the Joe Burrow Coacho interview after the Natty. I haven't missed an episode since. Even through the Love is Blind recaps.

[Big Cat]

That was cool. That's not our fault. That was Covid.

[PFT Commenter]

If I had them on, there was no sports. We had to talk about documentaries. We had to talk about Tiger King.

[Hank]

If I had to ask a question, if you had to pick one episode that added the most new listeners, what do you think it would be?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, good question.

[Hank]

Honestly. Might be Dungeons and Dragons.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I think I would think it would be one of our earlier episodes with a big guest.

[Big Cat]

I want to say Joe Buck.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Buck could be one, I think Joe Buck scp.

[Big Cat]

SCP or Joe Buck.

[PFT Commenter]

I got another one.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

One.

[PFT Commenter]

Jim Harbaugh. The first time we interviewed him at Michigan for sure, that was one where we looked at the charts or at the data that we got behind the scenes of how many people listen to that one. And the data was screwed up. But it did tell us like 4 million people listen to that episode, which was not at all true. But it was definitely like a bigger, bigger sod than our normal ones were. So I would say maybe that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

My favorite episode you guys ever did

[Big Cat]

was like the Fire Fest breakdown. Oh yeah. That was during just you guys in Marillo just breaking that.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

No, it was before.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Covid just breaking down both documentaries. How much of scumbag Billy McFarland is. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But I think it's, it's got to be one of those early ones.

[Hank]

I, I still a segment.

[Big Cat]

I do feel.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I should text him.

[Big Cat]

I do feel like the Joe Buck one though. That's the one that I, I, I'll still get people commenting me and like been a listener since Joe Buck. When you change my opinion on Joe Buck, Joe Buck really owes us his entire life when you, when you really break it down.

[PFT Commenter]

No one knew who Joe Buck was before us. No one knew what Mount Rushmore was. Nobody knew who Joe Joe Buck was.

[Hank]

I became an AWL eight years ago. I started listening when I was in a very low point in my life. And I truly believe listening to y' all show brought me out of depression. Hank's Listerine sleeping medicine and Objin might have been the hardest I've ever laughed. Except when Big Cat and PFT gave relationship advice during guys on Chicks The.

[PFT Commenter]

The Lister Quill.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This guy is referring to Listerine Nyquil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you swallow both of them from

[Big Cat]

the man who brought you Barbara Cuffalo.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So you followed it up with Listerine.

[Hank]

I was right about Barbaco.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you were.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But 100%.

[PFT Commenter]

So you swallowed the Listerine and the Nyquil?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And what. What about. What about the soap? What about soap and armpits?

[Hank]

That's still valid.

[PFT Commenter]

What is your take on that? I forgot.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't work.

[Hank]

Body wash doesn't work in your armpits.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What about.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Why does.

[Hank]

Why did. But why does shampoo work in your hair body.

[PFT Commenter]

But body wash does work. If you smell your armpits right after you wash. Wash them with body wash. It smells good.

[Max]

I'm on Hank's side with this one.

[Big Cat]

Do you still wash your Oreos?

[Hank]

Dunk my Oreos. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, wash them.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You washed them.

[Hank]

Oreos and water.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I love that one.

[Hank]

That was. Yeah, that was my friend. Shout out Kevin. Long time ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we need some more Hank and vents. Come on. Maybe get us new ones sometime in the next couple weeks. Months. Cuz like, I mean, list. Lister Quill and Barbara cuffalo are 1A 1B greatest inventions of all time.

[Hank]

Car stick.

[Big Cat]

Car stick. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't think people still understand the car stick.

[PFT Commenter]

The PFT gnome kind of flopped compared to the. The Hank dog toy, but that's fine.

[Hank]

We didn't sell as many or we didn't have as many.

[Big Cat]

Have they arrived yet?

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. No, we're getting a lot of.

[Hank]

I mean, a lot of tandems sold out.

[PFT Commenter]

People buy both.

[Hank]

Yeah, instantly, of course.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of dog toys, though.

[Big Cat]

A lot of dogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Tens of thousands of dog toys.

[Hank]

There's more inventory.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they sold really well.

[Hank]

Was sent a link by my friend in 2016. I listened and told publicity department of show I was on. I wanted to be on it. They called back and said PMT was not interested. I then made it my life's mission to get on pmt. Now I'm their fantasy expert. Never give up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Thank you, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Jerry is 100% correct. We said no the first time. We're like, what, that guy, the fat kid from standby?

[PFT Commenter]

We tried to get out of it the last second. Like, Jerry was in the building.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he was doing wine walk. And we went up to Kelly and we said, kelly, I don't think that we're gonna do this interview.

[Hank]

Oh, Kelly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, we were up to Kelly. Booking Kelly and she was like, you were doing this interview.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. It was a.

[Big Cat]

It was the best decision that we tried to get out of in our lives. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Credit to us.

[Big Cat]

Credit to us. Love you, Jerry. I miss Jerry so much. It's like, we go, it's the two people Football leaves, and I get sad because football is gone. But the two people that, like, I miss so much when it's not football season is Jerry and Stu Fighter. Because they're just. They're just everything.

[Hank]

I taught a college class was too finer a couple weeks ago, by the way.

[Big Cat]

Quigs. Did you see Quigs Quiggs tweet? Wait, you taught us college classes through finders.

[Hank]

A lecturer. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Where?

[Hank]

University of Illinois.

[Big Cat]

I love that. Yeah. Quig street was. Was spot on. I forgot this happened. We had our guests on a show like, eight years ago were John Morant and Stu Finer.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Separate interviews.

[Hank]

Insult graphic of me on there.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

You're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're on the graphic? Yeah. What are you doing on vacation?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There you are. Looking good.

[Hank]

I remember I was sitting on the toilet at my old house reading a tweet about ESPN being pissed off at some dudes for trying to rip off part of the interruption and first take show. I was like, what the. I like pti, but who's ripping off the shitty first take name? So I go into Apple podcasts or whatever the it was called back then, and find the show been an awl ever since. Mind numbingly stupid, but hilarious. Had open heart surgery in 2018, and you guys helped me get through. Thanks, fellas. The Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Very cool. I like this guy.

[Big Cat]

Dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Those.

[Big Cat]

Those. Those are the best, though, when we get, you know, any type of. Because I'll get dms or people reaching out and being like, hey, I was going through a tough time, and you guys were consistently there. Those are like, what make my heart grow so large, where it's like, hey, it's. It's more, maybe more than just idiot podcasting. Like, we actually mean something to people. That's awesome. Feels great. It really does. I hope we're that. I hope we're that for a of lot of people.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Does anybody that ever says, like, I. You guys provide a valuable escape for me. I'm going through something. Like, there is value to that in your life. We all have those things where, whatever, it could be something really, really stupid, but if it takes your mind off something that is really tough that you're going through, I think that's like, the most valuable thing in the world.

[Seth MacFarlane]

So that it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's honestly awesome to hear people say that.

[Big Cat]

Never taking ourselves too seriously.

[Hank]

I used to. I've said this before, I think a few times on the show, but I used to read those messages when I was like, 22, 23, and. And didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, this is.

[Hank]

We're just around in a podcast. Like, this doesn't make sense. And then when I was going through something in my personal life, and it was like, I started watching other stuff as, like, an escape. And then I, like, understood where I was like, I don't know these people, but I watch their stuff, and it, like, is a great distraction for what's going on in my life. Then it, like, brought it together where it's like, that's awesome that we do that for other people.

[Big Cat]

And I'll say this, too. It's an escape for us. Like, the world is shitty. There's, you know, not saying our own personal lives are bad, but, like, the world is a shitty place. The world's a tough place. There's a lot of crap going on. There's a lot of discourse. It sucks everything. When we come in these walls, we know we're gonna talk about silly, trivial things. And it does feel like an escape for us. Or it's like, hey, just turn it off. Turn off all the outside news and all the shit and just have some fun with the boys. So, yeah, it's been just as much for us as it is for a lot of people out there. Okay. Is that it?

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Shout out, Jerry. Love you, Jerry.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

Do you guys have a favorite episode?

[Big Cat]

I. Next one. Next one. Yeah, I know it's semi recency bias, but if I, like, close my eyes and think about the. The. The, like, pure essence of this show. Show, it's us sitting in our. On an rv, screaming at each other about the color of cheese when Peter Schrager, like, happened to walk in. I think it was that. I think it was that was. Did he walk in on that debate?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he did.

[Big Cat]

And. And just laughing at the moment of, like, this guy who we love and he's a friend, but, like, watching someone else have to see it live and we get actually mad during Mount Rushworth season.

[Max]

I was thinking about that episode recently. I don't remember what side I was on, and I was so passionate about whatever side that was, but I could see right now. I could see it.

[PFT Commenter]

So let me ask you. Let me ask you. Put your nuts on the line right now. Is cheese yellow?

[Max]

It's white, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think cheese is white.

[Max]

I think it's white.

[PFT Commenter]

You're an idiot.

[Big Cat]

Isn't that the worst when you. When you have a take and you're like, wait, I think if you go back five years ago, I was the exact opposite.

[PFT Commenter]

Another good one was on the most. Yeah, I think it was the most recent grit week when we were on the bus and we were just in a. A fight with Hank because Hank thought that we had, like, videotaped him when he was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When he was talking in his sleep. And then he was upset that he said something, but he actually didn't say anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're in a. A true fight about nothing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

With Hank. That was. That was a great time. Yeah.

[Hank]

Gas. You get gaslit.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Me.

[Hank]

Your favorite episode is when you gas.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

That's.

[Hank]

That says a lot.

[Big Cat]

Also, Max Titty.

[PFT Commenter]

Max did was good.

[Hank]

My.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's.

[Max]

That's always Hank's favorite.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he still says that to

[Max]

me all the time. I don't know why I got so upset about. I think I was upset for other reasons and that.

[PFT Commenter]

And that, you know, Max and Hank on the couch together.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After Philly loss, Bill Walton.

[Big Cat]

But not the Bill Walton. The Bill Walton interview was awesome. But the next day, going to the game and having Bill Walton, because we interviewed Bill Walton and I think all of us thought, like, that was so incredible, so much fun. But there's no way where we made an impact on him. He probably was like, I just did the dumbest thing ever. We saw him at the game and he, like, gave us the biggest smile and wave and I think hug. And it was just like, oh, he actually remembers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Smile, wave, point. And then we. We threw him a part of my take. Tie, dye, T shirt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was like. Oh, that was like that. Actually, you know, he. He remembers us. Yeah, it's cool. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

I like the last 20 minutes of beer Olympics.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. Yeah. That was something. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was.

[Big Cat]

I listen to it on every airplane the last 20 minutes.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so funny. That's disgusting memes.

[Big Cat]

That was a mistake. Big time.

[PFT Commenter]

You should listen to deleted scenes from that.

[Hank]

You mean the last, like, hour?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We conservatively deleted two hours of footage from the last. Last. Yeah, the Beer Olympics, man. Okay, good show. We're done with 10 year stuff until our book comes out. We have all the stories on our book. Everything. Okay. Numbers 7, 3, 23.

[PFT Commenter]

Max and Zach are debating cheese colors back here.

[Max]

Zach is now just learning about this debate.

[Big Cat]

But it's white.

[Matthew Tkachuk]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's majority 21.

[Seth MacFarlane]

55.

[Big Cat]

5.

[Max]

56. I hope I would. I think I was.

[Big Cat]

Oh, quick, boys. Quick. 43. 86. 94. 94. One more. One more. We got to get one more.

[PFT Commenter]

Same numbers.

[Max]

I mean, it's going to take.

[Big Cat]

What? I mean, same numbers. 24.

[Max]

Definitely not going to happen right now.

[PFT Commenter]

56.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. It's going to happen right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Se Colton, Jack, Shane, if you guys want to salute me and Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

86. 43. Some might say the other machine was rigged. Oh. 83. Closer. Another loser.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys. Happy birthday to Memes.

[Big Cat]

Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

And to George Pickens. You and George Perkins share a birthday? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Go regular brain, guys. Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Sam, Sa.